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Speaker 1: episode number seven. You want to share? You want to
Speaker 1: share something with the Cloud? I do? It was actually
Speaker 1: something I just noticed on Twitter on the cover for
Speaker 1: account where one of our producers, Caden Gates. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I decided that he was going to dress up as
Speaker 1: our own Dave helmets. Pretty good, right, He nailed nailed
Speaker 1: it the way he walks in with the like the handling,
Speaker 1: like what what do you want? Oh? Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: it was so the bear the beard was a little
Speaker 1: too long, but I mean he probably bought it at Target,
Speaker 1: so no beggars can't be chased. So it's so great.
Speaker 1: He did a great Oh he did, he did. There's
Speaker 1: a video of him doing the eyebrow rub. Nice. He
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Speaker 1: you'll see the video. I think Taylor retweetered, does anybody
Speaker 1: jumping out or anything we're doing that? No. I was
Speaker 1: trying to think of something, anything that could come up
Speaker 1: with for Halloween that we could do, and me and
Speaker 1: Nick we're talking about it last night and we came
Speaker 1: away with basically, Amber's gonna be unaffected by it, and Dave,
Speaker 1: we really don't feel like it's a good idea to
Speaker 1: do this to him again after that last time. I
Speaker 1: didn't like it, So we were because I was thinking,
Speaker 1: can we have somebody like back there that if we
Speaker 1: got you to turn around, would just completely freak you out?
Speaker 1: But I couldn't think of anything. You'd turn around and
Speaker 1: see yourself and the reflections. So I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm a pretty chill guy, but I don't
Speaker 1: like when stuff pops up in my face. It's not
Speaker 1: a good feeling. Yeah, if you if you miss that
Speaker 1: was last year or year before. I think it was
Speaker 1: two years year. Two years ago we had Shannon jump
Speaker 1: out it from under here at Dave. Of course we
Speaker 1: have talking cowboys sitting there, so you'd be there the
Speaker 1: whole time. I think I think it was Kelsey Charles.
Speaker 1: Somebody was asking me the other day, like, let's go
Speaker 1: to a haunted house. I was like, absolutely not. Why
Speaker 1: would I pay somebody to do that? It's the worst?
Speaker 1: Are you just scary like that? Like you just like
Speaker 1: don't like stuff popping out at me? It's not I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't like the way that feels. No,
Speaker 1: thank you, happy, happy Halloween. Well we're not doing that
Speaker 1: to you today. Thank you. So what happened? Though It's
Speaker 1: been two years, but I still haven't forgotten you? Didn't
Speaker 1: she was just for the sake of getting She did
Speaker 1: look kind of like this, like I'm not how old
Speaker 1: are you? Like? How old is shining to be hiding
Speaker 1: underneath the desk? Sorry? Mom? Too old? All right, let's
Speaker 1: jump in. We got a couple of things we want
Speaker 1: to hit today. Nick's gonna tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about his New York Giants storylines for the week, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Dave get into this New York Giant defense.
Speaker 1: Tell us about that defense. I know we talked about
Speaker 1: the offense yesterday. Seems like they're all world So let's
Speaker 1: tell we'll talk about the defense defense a little bit.
Speaker 1: I've been figuring out how they are as say they
Speaker 1: were all world. Let's start first with those storylines though.
Speaker 1: Nick walk us through some of the storylines this week
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants. All right, well, the Giants
Speaker 1: are gonna they're bringing in Leonard Williams. He just moves
Speaker 1: from one lone room to the other from the Jets.
Speaker 1: He's h we'll talk about how he fits into that defense.
Speaker 1: But you know, they they kind of had one way
Speaker 1: to go. You know, it's kind of like baseball now
Speaker 1: with the trade deadline. You decide are you gonna go
Speaker 1: in or you're gonna do nothing, or are you gonna
Speaker 1: go backwards? And you know, the Giants and another point
Speaker 1: that I had, they had three names on there that
Speaker 1: people were talking about maybe trading for alec Ogletree. They're
Speaker 1: linebacker Nate Soldiers, a tackle and I'm missing another guy
Speaker 1: um that they oh Jenner Orris Jenkins. They decided not
Speaker 1: to do anything there, and then they went the other
Speaker 1: way and got Leonard Williams. So they're not giving up
Speaker 1: on the season there, two and six, but they're not
Speaker 1: giving up on trying to win and get better, and
Speaker 1: I think it went out. Yeah. True, and they got
Speaker 1: hot last year if you remember, or they got warmer
Speaker 1: last year. So the fact they made a move and
Speaker 1: didn't make a move, those are a couple of things.
Speaker 1: They're obviously this team looks different, you know, which I
Speaker 1: don't want to cut your off ahead. I just they
Speaker 1: asked me about that on the radio today. They're like,
Speaker 1: well the Giants. The Giants stood pad and they added
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams. Like they doesn't seem like they're giving up
Speaker 1: on the season. And I was like, well, even if
Speaker 1: they even if they don't think they're going anywhere this year, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think this team is that far away from
Speaker 1: being good, right, Like assuming Daniel Jones is good, which
Speaker 1: is obviously the big if in the whole thing, but
Speaker 1: like you look around the rest of that roster, Like
Speaker 1: the offensive line has been much better Soldiers there for
Speaker 1: he's got a few years on it is the old
Speaker 1: They drafted her Nandez. They got good offensive lineman. They
Speaker 1: obviously have a generational running back Ingram's good, Shepherd's good. Barkley,
Speaker 1: I already said, Barkley, He's amazing. They have talent in
Speaker 1: the secondary. They drafted DeAndre Baker this year. Genor Jenkins
Speaker 1: is not as great as it used to be, but
Speaker 1: still good. They need help in the front seven, like
Speaker 1: big Time, and the defensive they have to now rebuild,
Speaker 1: so this is not I don't even think of the
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams move as a they're not giving up on
Speaker 1: the season. I look at it as this is a
Speaker 1: young team that's trying to rebuild, and this becomes a
Speaker 1: cog in that rebise. Yeah, they gave away a third
Speaker 1: and a fifth, but they they've been getting a lot
Speaker 1: of picks for some of these moves they made. If
Speaker 1: I were the Giants, I would try to look at
Speaker 1: this year like the two sixteen Eagles at a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback they got. They struggled early, but they kept playing,
Speaker 1: they got better. They had a big win at the
Speaker 1: end of the year for momentum sake. They go into
Speaker 1: seventeen and win the Super Bowl. That's a great point.
Speaker 1: And I just if Daniel Jones is good, which we
Speaker 1: don't know if he is, but if he is, I
Speaker 1: don't think this team's very far away from being pretty scary. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fortunately they're not there right now, though, and that's what's
Speaker 1: important to the Dallas Football Cowboys. The next point I
Speaker 1: was making was just how different they are, I mean
Speaker 1: than the week one. Usually you season one, week one,
Speaker 1: week nine there, you know it's about the same, But
Speaker 1: not so with Daniel Jones. We talked about that some yesterday.
Speaker 1: Another storyline going out for them is just the fact
Speaker 1: that their receivers are getting healthy. We talked about that
Speaker 1: some yesterday with this will be the first time that
Speaker 1: Shepherd and if he's cleared. He hasn't been cleared yet,
Speaker 1: but Sterling Shepherd and Golden Tate out there together, that'll
Speaker 1: be even better with with Daniel Jones, who likes to
Speaker 1: throw it down the field. And then I talked about
Speaker 1: sa Quon Barkley. I looked up the stat This is
Speaker 1: kind of interesting, goes this goes back to in twenty
Speaker 1: five years nineteen. Since nineteen ninety four, there's only se
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley is the only player to ever rush for
Speaker 1: have two fifty yard rushers or more against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: There's been seven or eight other guys, but he's the
Speaker 1: only guy to do it more than once. And he's
Speaker 1: done it in the last two games actually, so you know,
Speaker 1: his average of every time he's facing the Cowboys, got
Speaker 1: fifty nine and a sixty eight yard or so. Not
Speaker 1: too many guys have gone fifty yard rushers against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He's actually done it twice, So it's good stay always
Speaker 1: always gotta watch him, for sure. And it would have
Speaker 1: been longer if Cheeto wasn't running twenty five miles an hour.
Speaker 1: And the thing that probably is should be a little
Speaker 1: bit scary for the Cowboys this week is that when
Speaker 1: he was doing that in that last game, he had
Speaker 1: a really good game. Their passing game just wasn't doing
Speaker 1: very much. And now, like you said, the thing about
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is it's kind of two different guys right now.
Speaker 1: Some games he shows up and plays really well because
Speaker 1: he limits the turnovers. Some games, him playing well is
Speaker 1: derailed by the fact that he's turning it over. If
Speaker 1: he has one of those games where he doesn't turn
Speaker 1: it over, they could be a really good offense and
Speaker 1: that could be a problem for the Cowboys. And so
Speaker 1: you got the same thing with the Cowboys and their team.
Speaker 1: They're kind of two different, two different teams. Anytime they
Speaker 1: play somebody else, you don't know which kind of Cowboys
Speaker 1: defense you're gonna get So maybe that's something that balances
Speaker 1: out the game and makes it a harder one, rather
Speaker 1: than you thinking that this is just going to be
Speaker 1: a quick, easy game for the Cowboys. Yeah, not a
Speaker 1: quick eas I don't think as Bill Parcels used to
Speaker 1: always say, there's two sides of that pancake. So when
Speaker 1: when the Gilliants, I don't know. He used to have
Speaker 1: all these phrases and we still use them. I'm just
Speaker 1: so enamored. I'm enamored by the idea of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: head coach saying a bunch of quirky interesting things. Okay,
Speaker 1: it used to be the best part of my day
Speaker 1: every Monday, what's that like? Wednesday, Thursday and Friday was
Speaker 1: listening to Bill Parcels and press conferences. It was so
Speaker 1: much fun. Go ahead, Sorry. My point was is that, yes,
Speaker 1: he throws the ball down the field more more than
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. What was the thing about Eli Manning that
Speaker 1: was always hard to do? Get him on the ground
Speaker 1: because he gets the ball out quick, so you don't
Speaker 1: throw the ball deep. You have to wait a little bit,
Speaker 1: a couple of seconds more. Now they got Michael Bennett,
Speaker 1: you got Quinn, you got d law. So if you're
Speaker 1: holding the ball just a little bit longer to get
Speaker 1: your guys down the field, that's also a situation where
Speaker 1: you can get more sacks more than they used to.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you might give up more big plays or
Speaker 1: have to watch that more. You also might get more
Speaker 1: sacks and turnovers because of it. I thought about this
Speaker 1: after the show yesterday, which it's and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't know Eli Manning's headspace.
Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like the type of guy that cares
Speaker 1: about stats more than anything else. But I think it's interesting,
Speaker 1: Like Daniel Jones is like the classic rookie who doesn't
Speaker 1: know what he doesn't know, where as Eli is this
Speaker 1: fifteen year vet who's he's like, I gotta get the
Speaker 1: ball out or I gotta get down because I can't
Speaker 1: be taking sacks like this, And whether he's thinking about
Speaker 1: it or not, it's still a narrative that's like, well
Speaker 1: he's he's one fifty and one fifty, you know, like
Speaker 1: if he loses this game, then his what's his legacy
Speaker 1: and like all that big heavy stuff, Whereas Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: is like, this is my fifth start for a bad team. Like,
Speaker 1: let's just go out here and wing it around, like
Speaker 1: and this is a bad team, so there's not much
Speaker 1: in the way of expectation on him, at least relative
Speaker 1: to other top ten picks. And I think that can
Speaker 1: work in the cowboys favor or it can work against him,
Speaker 1: because I think he's just gonna go out there and
Speaker 1: play ball, like he'll extend plays, he'll throw it down.
Speaker 1: Feel like, who cares if I throw four picks because
Speaker 1: we're two and six anyway, and we're just trying to
Speaker 1: learn about this team. So, like I said, it can
Speaker 1: hurt the Cowboys if they don't play well, but this
Speaker 1: could be another situation where they get three four takeaways,
Speaker 1: because I think this is a completely different animal at
Speaker 1: quarterback who's, like I said, he doesn't know what he
Speaker 1: doesn't know. He's not afraid to go out there and
Speaker 1: do stuff. That's also the challenge of this thing is
Speaker 1: that whenever it was what you were talking about before
Speaker 1: and you said the Giants aren't that far off, whenever
Speaker 1: this thing starts to click, and what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is whenever he gets to the point where he
Speaker 1: realizes what he can do and when is the time
Speaker 1: to do it? When is the time to take that
Speaker 1: chance versus not like that's when this offense can then
Speaker 1: really start to take off, because again I think they
Speaker 1: got weapons, especially on the offensive side of all the defenses.
Speaker 1: Their issue and we'll talk about that in the next segment,
Speaker 1: but their offense has weapons, and whenever the quarterback figures
Speaker 1: out how to be able to go down feel but
Speaker 1: do it at the time when you can actually afford
Speaker 1: to wait a little bit longer, and the rest of
Speaker 1: the time dump it off to that guy that's underneath
Speaker 1: that can get you five six, seven yards and not
Speaker 1: take the set. That's when this becomes very very dangerous offense.
Speaker 1: And I think I agree with you. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're very far from them. You know, we talked about Parcels.
Speaker 1: You remember the game when part two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys were doing in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, seventh grade awesome, but working for the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Bill Parcels his first game on the road, it
Speaker 1: was at the Giants. It was a Monday night game
Speaker 1: and they made seven field goals and came back and won.
Speaker 1: It was it was a pretty crazy game. His first
Speaker 1: win with the Cowboys. That's that's the last time they
Speaker 1: faced the Giants up there without Elias the starter. It
Speaker 1: just goes yes, because and he did start at the
Speaker 1: end of the O four season, and he started every game,
Speaker 1: and even though he was benched in seventeen or six
Speaker 1: eighteen last year, right or what, No, it was, it
Speaker 1: was what's his name's last year. I don't even Macado. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was seven whatever, somebody somebody started, but then
Speaker 1: he came back in and started forever. So he say
Speaker 1: it like that he's old. Yeah, geez, yeah, And you know,
Speaker 1: you can say what you want about him and the
Speaker 1: faces he makes and all that he gets up and plays.
Speaker 1: I mean he's been I mean he's for a guy
Speaker 1: that's not very elusive, he's found a way to not
Speaker 1: take big hits, and you know he's the backup now.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's this will be the first time
Speaker 1: they've gone up there and shoot sixteen years and not
Speaker 1: faced him. That's wild. All right, we're gonna take our
Speaker 1: first break comeback. We'll get Dave talk to us about
Speaker 1: this New York Giant defense breakdown, what players are there
Speaker 1: and how they could possibly be problems for the Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: segment of The Break Live in the SWBC Mortgage studios
Speaker 1: at the Star Dave, let's talk about this Giants defense.
Speaker 1: We talked about the offense yesterday and we've already earlier
Speaker 1: parts of this show talked about how much this offense
Speaker 1: is kind of starting to take shape and you're seeing
Speaker 1: the growth. Talk about the defense though, because that was
Speaker 1: an area where they also lost some players last year
Speaker 1: they let they traded some players away. Where are they
Speaker 1: right now as a defense? Well, they did add Leonard Williams,
Speaker 1: and that's I mean, he's a top five talent that's
Speaker 1: worth considering. And I would say, you know, I'm so
Speaker 1: used to like even it's so weird how and I
Speaker 1: bet Nick can relate to the It's like these things
Speaker 1: just imprint themselves in your mind, Like the Giants play
Speaker 1: four three and have badass defensive ends Like that hasn't
Speaker 1: been the case in a long time, but that's still
Speaker 1: how I think. Like, so they trade for Leonard Williams
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, is he gonna play three tech
Speaker 1: or end in this defense? And then I was like,
Speaker 1: the Giants play three four idiot, Like, he'll probably play
Speaker 1: the exact same spot. So I'm interested to see how
Speaker 1: that goes. Um, they're They're not very good. Statistically, they're
Speaker 1: twenty eighth in the league three eighty seven seven yards
Speaker 1: per game. They're worse against the past than the run.
Speaker 1: But I would argue like the talent is all actually
Speaker 1: in their secondary and I think their big problem is
Speaker 1: just their front seven is not it's not good enough.
Speaker 1: Their their talent devoid there um they do. They have
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson and Dexter Lawrence. They spent their other first
Speaker 1: round pick aside from Daniel Jones on him. You know,
Speaker 1: three four linemen out of Clemson, So honestly, good play Well,
Speaker 1: it's all sort of it's kind of the pieces are
Speaker 1: kind of moving into place. Like you've got Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams will be on the other side. If you
Speaker 1: can resign him. That's the hell of a book end.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson is I don't know if he's Snacks Harrison,
Speaker 1: but he's a pretty solid nose tackle. So all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, that looks nice. These linebackers, though, to get
Speaker 1: the pressure in the three four, that's where it's a problem, right,
Speaker 1: And I mean it was a problem for them in
Speaker 1: Week one. They could not do anything with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offensive line and dak ate them alive what he hit
Speaker 1: four hundred yards. You know, we thought he was going
Speaker 1: to break all of the you know, he will throw
Speaker 1: for five thousand yards off the strength of that first game,
Speaker 1: and it's not any different. Like they haven't really changed
Speaker 1: the personnel there. They have Marcus Golden, Lorenzo Carter as
Speaker 1: the rush linebackers, alec Ogletree and Dion Buchanan, which Dion
Speaker 1: Buchanan's a former safety tweener guy that they got playing
Speaker 1: inside linebacker in a three four. So that's you know,
Speaker 1: like the stats will tell you that the secondary's terrible.
Speaker 1: I would argue they their front seven just does the
Speaker 1: no favors because I mean Jenris Jenkins, DeAndre Baker, another
Speaker 1: first round pick, Jabrill Pepper's Antoine. But they who's getting
Speaker 1: older but has had a nice career like that, that
Speaker 1: seems fine to me, Like I don't I don't dislike
Speaker 1: that at all, But they're not generating any pressure. Last
Speaker 1: last time around, Tyrant Smith and Lyle Collins eight, Golden
Speaker 1: and Carter alive, and like I expect it to happen again.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're those guys. And that's where
Speaker 1: all my focus is I'm just like, if if the
Speaker 1: Giants are getting a ton of pressure on Deck in
Speaker 1: this game, something's up, because I just don't think I
Speaker 1: see it unless Leonard Williams is all of a sudden
Speaker 1: that amazing in a position that doesn't traditionally provide that
Speaker 1: much pressure anyway, thinking about the run defense and going
Speaker 1: back to the first game, obviously that was Deck. I
Speaker 1: mean I was Zeke just coming off of being away
Speaker 1: from the team and probably wasn't his best self. Certainly.
Speaker 1: I think this last game you probably saw a different
Speaker 1: side of Zeke and we've seen all season. How do
Speaker 1: you think that matches up relative to how they stopped
Speaker 1: the run. It's a good question. I mean, yeah, they
Speaker 1: he was on a snap count in that game. Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard is the guy they leaned on in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter when the game was kind of out of hand. Again,
Speaker 1: I just I think this is a super favorable matchup
Speaker 1: all up front, and like I just said, like the
Speaker 1: front is looks talented on paper for the Giants, I
Speaker 1: just don't think it's all there. I don't think the
Speaker 1: linebackers are up to that task. If you watch them
Speaker 1: on tape, you see you know, Golden and Golden and
Speaker 1: Carter were running themselves out of the play against the
Speaker 1: Lions tackles all last week, and I just I like
Speaker 1: that matchup a lot. Yeah, and if he looked at
Speaker 1: what happened in that first game, I mean they did try.
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't care if Zeke was at training
Speaker 1: camp or not. I mean the they basically were trying
Speaker 1: to set out for that. I don't think he had
Speaker 1: a huge game stat wise, and he didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of snaps, like he said, but the middle was
Speaker 1: wide open. That's where you saw Blake Jarwin wide open
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Randall Cobb on a similar play. So
Speaker 1: you know, they did what they were supposed to do
Speaker 1: to try to stop the run and it didn't. It
Speaker 1: didn't help that game that those guys were making big plays.
Speaker 1: Gallup had a few as well down the field. That
Speaker 1: was back when we thought they were gonna play action
Speaker 1: fake on every snap this season and so much movement.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll get back to it this week. Yeah, Zeke
Speaker 1: had thirteen carries for fifty in a touchdown. I mean, Jarwin,
Speaker 1: it's going back to the I mean every time Jarwin
Speaker 1: goes there. He scored he scored four touchdowns in his No.
Speaker 1: Five in his career because he had one last game
Speaker 1: right Eagles An, Yeah, that was his first touchdown ever
Speaker 1: or against anyone not the Giants. So he's had three
Speaker 1: up there and then here's the fourth one. There's matchups
Speaker 1: to exploit there, Like I mean, I think the Giants
Speaker 1: know that they got to be all hands on deck
Speaker 1: to stop the run. There. They don't look they're not
Speaker 1: super disciplined. They weren't in the first matchup. I think
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of that. Like I said, the
Speaker 1: I like the secondary. But Matt Stafford had all day
Speaker 1: to throw last week, he completed twenty five or thirty
Speaker 1: two passes for seven eight yards. I'm seventy yards. Seventy
Speaker 1: eight percent of those passes three hundred yards. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean that would be embarrassing. That would be the
Speaker 1: reason you got a high percentage. But I mean there,
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of that. Like DeAndrea Baker's talented,
Speaker 1: he's not all the way there yet that he looked lost,
Speaker 1: but I still think part of that is because there's
Speaker 1: nobody pressuring the quarterback. The one sack that the Giants
Speaker 1: got on Stafford that really stood out was they'd played
Speaker 1: really great coverage and he had nowhere to go with
Speaker 1: the ball typical coverage stack. But I don't see them
Speaker 1: getting to Dak on a regular enough basis to offset that.
Speaker 1: So let's assume for a second that this defense is
Speaker 1: able to have some success against the Cowboys offense. Paint
Speaker 1: the scenario of how that would have to happen. They
Speaker 1: load up to stop the run, which and okay, to
Speaker 1: Nix's point, like they weren't great against the run in
Speaker 1: week one. I mean they weren't great running the ball
Speaker 1: in week one. So they do that and then and
Speaker 1: I like, their pass rush is just gonna have to
Speaker 1: be better, like because if Dak has time to throw
Speaker 1: or if the play action really asserts itself, I just
Speaker 1: don't see the secondary holding up again, not because they're
Speaker 1: not good, but nobody can cover for that amount of time.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to blitz, and they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: blitz and hope that you know, Jenkins or whoever is
Speaker 1: covering Cooper, you know, wins a lot of those battles,
Speaker 1: and you know, and and forces some bad throws and
Speaker 1: some deflections, and you know, you get you get a
Speaker 1: holding palm toy here and there, and it changes everything.
Speaker 1: You know, you could be first and tent at to
Speaker 1: thirty five yard line, you get a holding, now it's first,
Speaker 1: and twenty to twenty five changes everything, change the field position,
Speaker 1: and so Cowboys have to just stay you know, ahead
Speaker 1: of the chains and not getting those long situations where
Speaker 1: then they'll have to punt and create more confidence for
Speaker 1: the Giants defense. But I guess I could say this
Speaker 1: is uh, like, I'm just I'm not worried about Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins and Tyrann Smith, like they're like, I just think
Speaker 1: they're gonna win that match up with ease, or at
Speaker 1: least as easy as you can in the NFL. But
Speaker 1: you know, if you got you have Dexter Lawrence, and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden you have Leonard Williams, you
Speaker 1: can't just say, well, you know, Travis, help Connor, because
Speaker 1: you know Zack doesn't need the help now you need.
Speaker 1: You have two guys who theoretically could really give the
Speaker 1: interior of your line problems, throw in some blitzing maybe
Speaker 1: on top of that. I could see that I'm still
Speaker 1: I leaned toward the Cowboys in that matchup. But if
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and declare Dexter Lawrence can make some hay
Speaker 1: against the interior of the line, then that could be troublesome. Yep,
Speaker 1: how do we feel right now about what are we
Speaker 1: hearing right now about the health the two tackles. Obviously
Speaker 1: they both played the last game, they've had it some
Speaker 1: time off now with the buy. Are they backed close
Speaker 1: to it to one hundred percent health or is a
Speaker 1: situation where they're gonna have to battle this for the
Speaker 1: rest get it? Get it. But I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: those injuries, the specifically the injuries, and I know guys
Speaker 1: have nicks and bruises and they're gonna have that, but
Speaker 1: just the injuries and them coming back, I would guess
Speaker 1: I would guess both of them probably we pushed themselves
Speaker 1: to come back, maybe a little bit early even just
Speaker 1: to make because they saw how important that Philadelphia game was.
Speaker 1: But all that being said, what are we hearing about
Speaker 1: their injury status at this point as far as those
Speaker 1: injuries are concerned, Well, they're both out there. Tyron got
Speaker 1: some rehab work before practice, but like they're both in
Speaker 1: uniform and practicing always a good sign. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do the math in my head. Tyrone got hurt on
Speaker 1: September twenty ninth minutes October thirty first, So they're saying,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a true high ankle sprain, So
Speaker 1: like that's right in line with especially with a week off,
Speaker 1: Like that's right in line with how when you should
Speaker 1: be feeling better. Same thing if it's a you know,
Speaker 1: a mild MCL sprain. For Lyell, he got hurt on
Speaker 1: October fifth, so you're talking three to four weeks. Like, again, yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody's truly healthy, but like they should be right about
Speaker 1: as good as you could expect them to be. But
Speaker 1: if they aren't and they somebody gets hurt or maybe
Speaker 1: they get hurt in the game, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go down to the fourth tackle. Because it sounds like
Speaker 1: camp flints. Cam's out this week. So Brandon Night and
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was asked about this. Is he the backup
Speaker 1: to both sides? And he said, we'll see. So I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna try to play left and right tackle,
Speaker 1: but I would think he might you'd be better suited
Speaker 1: on the right side. So if something were to happen
Speaker 1: to time with the tyring, I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: it could be they could do a lot of shuffle,
Speaker 1: probably jumps out Zach. I don't know. I know, like
Speaker 1: Zach Martin is definitely there, like break Glass absolutely in
Speaker 1: case of an emergency. I don't know if they would
Speaker 1: try Connor or Zach first. I mean, Connor's done it?
Speaker 1: Is it bad that like Connor's done it more? But
Speaker 1: like I totally I would be like Zach, get out there,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yet more recent? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because he's more fresh out of college. Like Zach hasn't
Speaker 1: played tackle since the twenty thirteen college football season, so
Speaker 1: it's been a long time. You probably also look at
Speaker 1: it from a standpoint of Zach Zach. Zach is really
Speaker 1: really good at guard. Connor has his moments, right, So
Speaker 1: if you're gonna you don't want to take away from
Speaker 1: what's really really good and put him out a tackle
Speaker 1: where he may be a little less because he's not
Speaker 1: used to it, versus moving Connor where you still may
Speaker 1: be a little bit kind of shaky at times. Right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like that'sh Which player do you have
Speaker 1: more confidence in to do the job that they're not
Speaker 1: ready for? I guess I would. I think I would
Speaker 1: just go with Brendon night. Yeah, just put him over
Speaker 1: either side. He didn't do horrible when he got to
Speaker 1: He really no, He's really played well and they helped him.
Speaker 1: They helped him a pretty good amount of time. But
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're gonna have to do either way,
Speaker 1: if he's gonna in the game. Right. Part of me
Speaker 1: just I just want to see how Zach Martin would
Speaker 1: play a tackle, like, just for my I Actually I
Speaker 1: asked him about that a few weeks ago. I was like,
Speaker 1: is there any part of you that just wants to
Speaker 1: know how you would do it tackle, just like because
Speaker 1: you're a competitor, And he was like not really, and
Speaker 1: I was like good. I was so disappointed. I was
Speaker 1: like really, because like I'm dying to know. I just
Speaker 1: want to see. But you seem like you're all world
Speaker 1: at everything. So I'd like just to see if you
Speaker 1: can translate it over to tackle. All right, we'll take
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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, Nick, what you got
Speaker 1: for us? Well, I have a watch party. It's coming Yep,
Speaker 1: it's coming up November twenty fourth at what do you
Speaker 1: go to watch party? He watched the Cowboys play the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, and you watch them win, and it'll
Speaker 1: be a very fiftive game day atmosphere at the Dostio's
Speaker 1: Championship plods at the Star in Frisco. So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will take on the New England Patriots. They will not
Speaker 1: be undefeated then, but they're just throwing out a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of predictions here. Only I feel like everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of in the same boat there, not everybody. What do
Speaker 1: you mean by that? Well, we talked to we were
Speaker 1: on the show Happy Hour show Darren, what somethings that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will win? I think brought us thinks the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will win. It's just like a Cowboys thing into paytriots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now they're oh against the Pats. I was like, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that everybody thinks that they were wanting to
Speaker 1: get well that's in my head. I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I think they're going to beat the Giants. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not there. I'm not there yet, but
Speaker 1: it'll be a fun place to gather with your Cowboys
Speaker 1: friends on November twenty fourth. Go out there, bundle up,
Speaker 1: watch it out there at the Star and it'll be outside.
Speaker 1: Parking is free, admission is free, and then you can
Speaker 1: go all the cool restaurants that are around there at
Speaker 1: the Star District. I do think it will be an
Speaker 1: entertaining and a close game. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: there yet quite rather well, I'm ready to say the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I want to see how they play against three not
Speaker 1: as good teams before I pick them to beat statistically
Speaker 1: the best defense in the history of the league. Good point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not to mention the greatest quarterback of all time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a building where they never lose. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: ready for all of that. Just seems like it's a
Speaker 1: little daunting. But I do think that this is the county.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys would give them a run. I
Speaker 1: think they'd play they play him close because they would
Speaker 1: get up for that game in a way that they'd
Speaker 1: The Cowboys do is play stressful games, like right, fact,
Speaker 1: so the fact that they played three unstressful games to
Speaker 1: start the season is like the biggest upset of all time.
Speaker 1: I'm ninety five percent there that I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will win that game if they go and lose to
Speaker 1: the Lions the week before there, because that's what they'll do. Now,
Speaker 1: they go and blow out the Lions in Detroit. They're
Speaker 1: just like the games they just Lions. They just run
Speaker 1: through all. I don't like it. Yeah, oh they can play.
Speaker 1: Garret's got I'm playing. Well, watch this. But if they
Speaker 1: they beat they beat the Vikings and then just roll
Speaker 1: over Detroit. Yeah, I'm good about that. I don't like
Speaker 1: that at all. All right, let's go ahead, jump back in.
Speaker 1: We got some calls coming in you guys, call us
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Speaker 1: call from Travis and Michigan. Travis, what Traf? How's it going?
Speaker 1: How you doing great? But doing good? I'm glad to
Speaker 1: get in. I tried getting yesterday was talking because Mickey
Speaker 1: was he can on the Adams trade and all that,
Speaker 1: and he brought up a point that kind of had
Speaker 1: an epiphany for me. He brought up a point and
Speaker 1: said him and brought us were going back and forth,
Speaker 1: which they always do, which is always good, but he
Speaker 1: said something like, he said something like Woodson, you know
Speaker 1: if he is he Woodson? Is he Woodson? Because I'll
Speaker 1: gi up a first round pick if he's Woodson. And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, is the organization and you know,
Speaker 1: the team itself, are we holding ourselves back by thinking
Speaker 1: I'm only going to give up a first round pick
Speaker 1: if the guys Woodson. Like, I know Woodson's stature and
Speaker 1: you know, within the organization and the team, and he
Speaker 1: was awesome, He's great. But I feel like we're holding
Speaker 1: this standard to Woodson and saying like, if even that Woodson,
Speaker 1: I'm not making a deal for him. And I understand
Speaker 1: the price is high, but I'm kind of with Nick
Speaker 1: where I'm a draft nerd. I totally get it. You
Speaker 1: want to build the draft and you want to give
Speaker 1: a baskets one hundred percent, But at a certain point
Speaker 1: the house is built. So if you're if you're there,
Speaker 1: make a move to be there. Jerry's talked about it before.
Speaker 1: He wants to win. Now to me, it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like a win now move. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: you're kind of telling me that you don't think this
Speaker 1: team is one player away if you're trying to go
Speaker 1: get Adams, So like, which is it either we're there
Speaker 1: and we're all in, or you don't think we can
Speaker 1: compete with the Niners and the other teams, which I
Speaker 1: kind of don't think either. I think this was the
Speaker 1: move that they needed to make, and that's just my
Speaker 1: frustration as a fan. So are you saying that you
Speaker 1: were willing to in this instance, again, if we're going
Speaker 1: according to reports, you would be willing to give up
Speaker 1: a first in two seconds to secure Adams because you
Speaker 1: think that gets you over the top and you're not
Speaker 1: concerned about what that means for the future. I'm not,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you brought that up there, because I are.
Speaker 1: You and David brought the fact that, well, you gotta
Speaker 1: have holes in the off season. What if you lose
Speaker 1: a left tackle or if you've got to replace this.
Speaker 1: The simple fact is right now, you have a left tackle,
Speaker 1: you have a right tackle. Yeah, next year you will
Speaker 1: not have Next year, you will not have that defensive end.
Speaker 1: Next year you will have to probably replenish your defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Next year, you may have to replace your your cornerback.
Speaker 1: So those those are things that are that are real
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be here next offseason. The Rams will too.
Speaker 1: Does that have to do with anything? I don't understand
Speaker 1: The Rams will all in. They made a trade for
Speaker 1: Dayling Rams. Okay, And that's again I don't I don't
Speaker 1: follow the Rams. I don't talk about the Rams, So
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure how that
Speaker 1: fits into their long term plans and what else they
Speaker 1: got to do this offseason. And I get you, And
Speaker 1: again I'm not against what you're saying. I really am
Speaker 1: am not. I'm just trying to be clear on on
Speaker 1: making sure that that I understand you when you say
Speaker 1: you want to do it, that you're saying, I'm good
Speaker 1: and going all in first two seconds for the purposes
Speaker 1: of securing this player. Yeah, okay, let me just say
Speaker 1: one more thing, one more thing real quick. I feel
Speaker 1: like way back in the day we talked about and
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't support to see there, we used
Speaker 1: to build different agency. We bought, we bought, we bought,
Speaker 1: we spent, we spent, we spent. I feel like, now
Speaker 1: we've gone I'm told again, I'm totally with it. We've
Speaker 1: built to the draft. We've built a really good team.
Speaker 1: It's there, but you're building building building. At some point
Speaker 1: you've got to win. You gotta win now, Like that's
Speaker 1: my thing. And I know they've got one hundred percent
Speaker 1: more towards the drafts id you since Steven's kind of
Speaker 1: taken over a little bit more and Boo mcclay's in there.
Speaker 1: I get that, but like there's got to be a
Speaker 1: healthy balance of like, yeah, you can lose some guys
Speaker 1: next year, well plug him in. But I trust the
Speaker 1: scouting stuff. I'm in with three agents, a few of
Speaker 1: them not high priced guys. But you can you can
Speaker 1: work it, massage the cab, you can work it that
Speaker 1: they can build spots. I believe and move one year
Speaker 1: all in and then if you have a down year
Speaker 1: but you make it to the championship games, they want
Speaker 1: to get to care if they go six and ten,
Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl this year, do you care? Well?
Speaker 1: I think I mean the fact and nice of the call.
Speaker 1: I love the call. I think I think Travis brought
Speaker 1: up a lot of concerns that a lot of fans
Speaker 1: have and like it's you know, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: ride the fence. Like I really feel both ways about it.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think it's kind of funny that Mickey
Speaker 1: compared Jamal Adams to Woody, because like he is Woody,
Speaker 1: Like he's that good. Sorry, Mack, he's much younger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's a cop out. Honestly, is just a
Speaker 1: way of saying, but I don't know what the answer was.
Speaker 1: What's then the answer is, yes, he's a he is
Speaker 1: a Swiss army knife. He's not. He's probably not gonna
Speaker 1: get you eight picks in a season, but neither did Woody.
Speaker 1: Like he can play all over the fricking field. He can,
Speaker 1: He's ferocious against the run, his instincts are off the charts.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever asks him to play in the slot, but
Speaker 1: I bet he could in a pinch um. So he
Speaker 1: is woods and so like, if that's the case, they
Speaker 1: should have done it. This whole thing is not about
Speaker 1: the evaluation of the player. I think everybody was on
Speaker 1: the same page that this, Yeah, this is the price.
Speaker 1: This was all about the price. Are you willing to
Speaker 1: give up a one? I think the Cowboys probably would
Speaker 1: have been all in on that. Are you willing to
Speaker 1: give up a one in two twos? I think the
Speaker 1: Jets that's that sounds like that was their asking price,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't seem like this I heard. I heard
Speaker 1: Mike Fisher on that same show last night make that point.
Speaker 1: And it's really a great point because if you think
Speaker 1: about it, the Jets are saying three guys. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: are saying one. That ain't even close if the reports
Speaker 1: are true. Yea, if that's close. I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: one report. We've heard other reports, so it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: hard to balance it all. I don't think I would
Speaker 1: have taken two twos. But my point is about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys love those two. Yeah, but they haven't been very good.
Speaker 1: Like I think that's a fair statement. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you can say that that has been, that has
Speaker 1: been up and down. I don't think it has been.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been. I don't think it has been for
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I mean, I don't give me
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence because the mark because he's the thirty
Speaker 1: fourth pick in the draft. That is a very high second.
Speaker 1: If you look at where these picks will be fifty
Speaker 1: or more. I went and look this up. Give me
Speaker 1: every every second round pick in the history of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: fifty to six. We're not talking about those. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the ones that McClay even and Jerry. He's making
Speaker 1: a really good point in all honesty, I know, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying, let's not say that in history, because the
Speaker 1: same people weren't making when they've drafted at the back
Speaker 1: end of the second and they got Gregory, they got
Speaker 1: They've had one pet pretty good, one pro bowler. It's
Speaker 1: Sean Lee who was picked fifty. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: because if you get Jamal Adams, this team's gonna be
Speaker 1: picking twenty fifth or so and then fifty five. So
Speaker 1: you're picking in the fifties. The track record says that
Speaker 1: hasn't been very good. To take that, So I don't
Speaker 1: think you have to give up two twos. I think
Speaker 1: you have to give up one two. If I'm giving
Speaker 1: up one two in the next year's draft and I
Speaker 1: haven't been picking very well in the fifties, I'll take
Speaker 1: my chances, you know, I mean, I get to them.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. They had to trade up
Speaker 1: to get him at thirty four. I will tell you this,
Speaker 1: if if the offer was really down to a first
Speaker 1: and a second, maybe I go with them there, and
Speaker 1: maybe I go with you there, especially if they're split
Speaker 1: over two years. So this year I don't get a one,
Speaker 1: next year I don't get a two. Maybe I'm there,
Speaker 1: but the reports are true there was one in two twos.
Speaker 1: I'm not. That's just too much for me that I
Speaker 1: got it. The draft becomes my lifeblood. When I've got
Speaker 1: all these high priced guys that are my frontline guys,
Speaker 1: I need the drafting l to replenish. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to use Travis as analogy. He said the house
Speaker 1: is already built. He's right, but I'm trying to imagine.
Speaker 1: I've never built a house, but I'm imagining like you're
Speaker 1: in the finishing process, like the final steps of this,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, do you want the badass covered
Speaker 1: back porch with the fire pit and the flat screen TV,
Speaker 1: and then your budget is just completely wiped, so you
Speaker 1: got no money when something breaks, or do you just
Speaker 1: want the concrete slab with some patio chairs and then
Speaker 1: when you start to have problems, you got some money
Speaker 1: left over. Because that's the choice you're dealing with here,
Speaker 1: and honestly, as much as I would love to have
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, but I get why they're doing it because
Speaker 1: you need those picks. And again the point Travis brought up, Yes,
Speaker 1: the Rams are clearly going all in. They have not
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl yet. They played like crap and
Speaker 1: lost it last year, and if they don't do it
Speaker 1: this year, they're probably in deep crap because all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're asking Jared Goff and Aaron Donald to
Speaker 1: carry a team that has no high picks and is
Speaker 1: saddled with huge contracts everywhere else. And I'm assuming that
Speaker 1: means they're probably a little bit older, like the average
Speaker 1: age of it they become Seattle And I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: but I don't think Jared Goff is Russell Wilson. I
Speaker 1: don't think he is. And so I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1: Nobody you're saying you have to carry it because they
Speaker 1: went all in and they won, right and then they
Speaker 1: kind of and then they figured, you know, everyone else signed.
Speaker 1: If the Rams win the Super Bowl this year, then
Speaker 1: it will have been worth it. And if they don't,
Speaker 1: I think they're in a heap of trouble and for
Speaker 1: anybody that's gonna come at me and say like, well,
Speaker 1: it's been twenty five years since we've even been to
Speaker 1: a conference championship game. Like, don't kid yourself that you'll
Speaker 1: be okay with that. Like, if you're gonna push your
Speaker 1: chips in and they lose the NFC title Game or
Speaker 1: lose the Super Bowl, you're not gonna feel good about that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be miserable. And then then the narrative will
Speaker 1: be how many years since you've won the Super Bowl? Right?
Speaker 1: Been there? And by the way, you've just mortgaged your future,
Speaker 1: so now it's about to be downhill. It's not like
Speaker 1: you're going to keep that window open for a long
Speaker 1: period of time. I don't know. I'm I'm the one
Speaker 1: that would say go all in because you've had all
Speaker 1: these years where the Cowboys have had successful draft and
Speaker 1: they do have a lot of talent, But where has
Speaker 1: that gotten you so far? Nowhere? Really, So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a year and every year the team changes.
Speaker 1: Next year, you're not going to have the same team
Speaker 1: that you have right now. You're gonna lose some talent
Speaker 1: because of the money and all that. So if this
Speaker 1: is a year to do it. We're here now, it's
Speaker 1: this present. Not worry about the future. The future will come.
Speaker 1: You get some other We don't know what's going to
Speaker 1: happen with the coaching, but let's say, Okay, Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: time is up, and then you get somebody else who
Speaker 1: can actually get some things out of these talented players
Speaker 1: and the guys that you do have on the roster.
Speaker 1: So at one point it's like enough, it's enough, and
Speaker 1: you are ready to put all it, all your chips in.
Speaker 1: And I think that this is the one time where
Speaker 1: fans truly feel that this is the time because of
Speaker 1: the player talent. I don't think they feel the same
Speaker 1: way for Jason Garrett, but because of the talent that's
Speaker 1: being put out on the field, I think this is
Speaker 1: where fans get frustrated and they think, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the year to actually get it done. And I agree.
Speaker 1: I think most people probably are just really disappointed because
Speaker 1: this was the opportunity to take your team over, like
Speaker 1: you would have felt like going into this last AffA season,
Speaker 1: you felt like you had talent on this defense to
Speaker 1: be the best defense in the league. And that says
Speaker 1: a lot because there's some good defenses in this league.
Speaker 1: But you would have felt like that talent acquired with
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, with what you already had here, you would
Speaker 1: have felt great about that. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: there's so much disappointment from fans. It's just because they
Speaker 1: saw it there. It was right, seemed like he was
Speaker 1: right there in reach, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's not there. Let's go sorry, let's go even more
Speaker 1: macro though, Like I hadn't even really considered this, but
Speaker 1: there are people making those decisions that are probably in
Speaker 1: some part of their brain thinking we might have to
Speaker 1: reshape this team for a new coach in the coming
Speaker 1: in the nearer or distant future, and the whole new
Speaker 1: show Dave not having first the second round picks is
Speaker 1: not a great way to start a new regime. Just literally,
Speaker 1: that just popped in my mind. It's it's sorry I
Speaker 1: keep cutting you off. That go ahead, right, No, I
Speaker 1: was just saying, what another point that guy made was,
Speaker 1: you know you always have everyone's got that that rich
Speaker 1: friend that just has a lot of money and they
Speaker 1: don't ever spend anything like they don't ever. He's like,
Speaker 1: I know, you're not pointing at me. Yeah, they save it.
Speaker 1: They save it. They're like, you know, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: when are you gonna spend I mean what, I get it,
Speaker 1: you're saving them for whatever, but at some point spend
Speaker 1: the damn money. And it's like, let's just the you know,
Speaker 1: moving it back, moving it back. At some point, you
Speaker 1: know what, You've got two aces and there's an ace
Speaker 1: on there. You gotta just go all in at some point.
Speaker 1: And I think I would have done it. That would
Speaker 1: have been the moment for you. I think, so I
Speaker 1: there's no way to not I'm riding the fence and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I think I would have done it too.
Speaker 1: But I know it's their responsibility to keep this team
Speaker 1: competitive for three, four or five years from now. And
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm a little bit disappointed, but I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not just see anything mad that they didn't
Speaker 1: do this deal. I'm just not right. I could. I
Speaker 1: could probably be convinced both ways. And I do see
Speaker 1: the value. That's the part. That's the part that trips
Speaker 1: you up as you see the value and you see
Speaker 1: the potential. But I also see the part where you
Speaker 1: could be looking here a year or two down the
Speaker 1: road and you're like, man, that was not a great
Speaker 1: decision because I do think last year in the draft,
Speaker 1: they had an opportunity to get what we would have
Speaker 1: been the best safety in the draft, for the second
Speaker 1: best safety in the draft in the second round. Like
Speaker 1: there are still opportunities where they could get talented safeties.
Speaker 1: They just haven't addressed it like that, you know. And
Speaker 1: so if you really think you gotta upgrade your safety position,
Speaker 1: why not use that second round picking go get yourself
Speaker 1: a freaking safety. It is funny that they'd be willing
Speaker 1: to do a major deal to get a safety but
Speaker 1: not just pick one at fifty eight, right, which I mean,
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is a different animal than one Thornhill. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I hear you. Yeah, all right, we appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: You want us for back Tomorrow, We're gonna wrap this
Speaker 1: thing up. Let you guys know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: This is the second time you got hyped up of
Speaker 1: all the safety that's annoying. That was an arrow tip.
Speaker 1: There's a question. There's a question that a fan hatch
Speaker 1: yesterday about I mean today about that, and I'm actually
Speaker 1: gonna bring it up tomorrow because I thought It was
Speaker 1: a good question about these back to back times that
Speaker 1: really we've been talking significantly about safeties around the league
Speaker 1: and what that means for what the Cowboys really think
Speaker 1: about their safety position. But we'll talk about that. Shouts
Speaker 1: out to Travis. That was a good little a little
Speaker 1: good little dialogue for Nick, even Dave helm and Abergarcia.
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