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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday October thirty, first, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number seven. You want to share? You want to

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Speaker 1: share something with the Cloud? I do? It was actually

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Speaker 1: something I just noticed on Twitter on the cover for

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Speaker 1: account where one of our producers, Caden Gates. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I decided that he was going to dress up as

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Speaker 1: our own Dave helmets. Pretty good, right, He nailed nailed

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Speaker 1: it the way he walks in with the like the handling,

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Speaker 1: like what what do you want? Oh? Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: it was so the bear the beard was a little

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Speaker 1: too long, but I mean he probably bought it at Target,

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Speaker 1: so no beggars can't be chased. So it's so great.

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Speaker 1: He did a great Oh he did, he did. There's

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Speaker 1: a video of him doing the eyebrow rub. Nice. He

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Speaker 1: really good, really good work. If you got if you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen any. Go checkout cover four shout out to Titter,

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Speaker 1: you'll see the video. I think Taylor retweetered, does anybody

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Speaker 1: jumping out or anything we're doing that? No. I was

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Speaker 1: trying to think of something, anything that could come up

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Speaker 1: with for Halloween that we could do, and me and

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Speaker 1: Nick we're talking about it last night and we came

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Speaker 1: away with basically, Amber's gonna be unaffected by it, and Dave,

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Speaker 1: we really don't feel like it's a good idea to

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Speaker 1: do this to him again after that last time. I

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Speaker 1: didn't like it, So we were because I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: can we have somebody like back there that if we

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Speaker 1: got you to turn around, would just completely freak you out?

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Speaker 1: But I couldn't think of anything. You'd turn around and

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Speaker 1: see yourself and the reflections. So I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm a pretty chill guy, but I don't

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Speaker 1: like when stuff pops up in my face. It's not

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Speaker 1: a good feeling. Yeah, if you if you miss that

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Speaker 1: was last year or year before. I think it was

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Speaker 1: two years year. Two years ago we had Shannon jump

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Speaker 1: out it from under here at Dave. Of course we

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Speaker 1: have talking cowboys sitting there, so you'd be there the

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Speaker 1: whole time. I think I think it was Kelsey Charles.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was asking me the other day, like, let's go

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Speaker 1: to a haunted house. I was like, absolutely not. Why

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Speaker 1: would I pay somebody to do that? It's the worst?

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Speaker 1: Are you just scary like that? Like you just like

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't like the way that feels. No,

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Speaker 1: thank you, happy, happy Halloween. Well we're not doing that

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Speaker 1: to you today. Thank you. So what happened? Though It's

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Speaker 1: been two years, but I still haven't forgotten you? Didn't

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Speaker 1: she was just for the sake of getting She did

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Speaker 1: look kind of like this, like I'm not how old

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Speaker 1: are you? Like? How old is shining to be hiding

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Speaker 1: underneath the desk? Sorry? Mom? Too old? All right, let's

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have Dave get into this New York Giant defense.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about that defense. I know we talked about

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Speaker 1: I've been figuring out how they are as say they

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Speaker 1: were all world. Let's start first with those storylines though.

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Speaker 1: Nick walk us through some of the storylines this week

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Speaker 1: for the New York Giants. All right, well, the Giants

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Speaker 1: are gonna they're bringing in Leonard Williams. He just moves

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Speaker 1: But you know, they they kind of had one way

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Speaker 1: to go. You know, it's kind of like baseball now

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Speaker 1: with the trade deadline. You decide are you gonna go

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Speaker 1: I don't think this team is that far away from

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Speaker 1: obviously have a generational running back Ingram's good, Shepherd's good. Barkley,

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Speaker 1: cog in that rebise. Yeah, they gave away a third

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Speaker 1: seventeen and win the Super Bowl. That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: And I just if Daniel Jones is good, which we

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Speaker 1: don't think this team's very far away from being pretty scary. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Quon Barkley is the only player to ever rush for

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Speaker 1: have two fifty yard rushers or more against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: There's been seven or eight other guys, but he's the

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Speaker 1: head coach saying a bunch of quirky interesting things. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it used to be the best part of my day

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Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like the type of guy that cares

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Speaker 1: about stats more than anything else. But I think it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: Like Daniel Jones is like the classic rookie who doesn't

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Speaker 1: if he loses this game, then his what's his legacy

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Speaker 1: and like all that big heavy stuff, Whereas Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: at the Star Dave, let's talk about this Giants defense.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the offense yesterday and we've already earlier

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson is I don't know if he's Snacks Harrison,

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Speaker 1: you can take advantage of that. Like DeAndrea Baker's talented,

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Speaker 1: he's not all the way there yet that he looked lost,

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Speaker 1: but I still think part of that is because there's

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Speaker 1: nobody pressuring the quarterback. The one sack that the Giants

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Speaker 1: got on Stafford that really stood out was they'd played

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Speaker 1: really great coverage and he had nowhere to go with

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Speaker 1: the ball typical coverage stack. But I don't see them

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Speaker 1: getting to Dak on a regular enough basis to offset that.

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Speaker 1: So let's assume for a second that this defense is

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Speaker 1: able to have some success against the Cowboys offense. Paint

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Speaker 1: the scenario of how that would have to happen. They

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Speaker 1: load up to stop the run, which and okay, to

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Speaker 1: Nix's point, like they weren't great against the run in

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Speaker 1: week one. I mean they weren't great running the ball

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Speaker 1: in week one. So they do that and then and

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Speaker 1: I like, their pass rush is just gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be better, like because if Dak has time to throw

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Speaker 1: or if the play action really asserts itself, I just

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Speaker 1: don't see the secondary holding up again, not because they're

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Speaker 1: not good, but nobody can cover for that amount of time.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to blitz, and they're gonna have to

447
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Speaker 1: blitz and hope that you know, Jenkins or whoever is

448
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Speaker 1: covering Cooper, you know, wins a lot of those battles,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and and forces some bad throws and

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Speaker 1: some deflections, and you know, you get you get a

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Speaker 1: holding palm toy here and there, and it changes everything.

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Speaker 1: You know, you could be first and tent at to

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard line, you get a holding, now it's first,

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Speaker 1: and twenty to twenty five changes everything, change the field position,

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Speaker 1: and so Cowboys have to just stay you know, ahead

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Speaker 1: of the chains and not getting those long situations where

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Speaker 1: then they'll have to punt and create more confidence for

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Speaker 1: the Giants defense. But I guess I could say this

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Speaker 1: is uh, like, I'm just I'm not worried about Lyle

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Speaker 1: Collins and Tyrann Smith, like they're like, I just think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win that match up with ease, or at

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Speaker 1: least as easy as you can in the NFL. But

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Speaker 1: you know, if you got you have Dexter Lawrence, and

464
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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden you have Leonard Williams, you

465
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Speaker 1: can't just say, well, you know, Travis, help Connor, because

466
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Speaker 1: you know Zack doesn't need the help now you need.

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Speaker 1: You have two guys who theoretically could really give the

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Speaker 1: interior of your line problems, throw in some blitzing maybe

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Speaker 1: on top of that. I could see that I'm still

470
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Speaker 1: I leaned toward the Cowboys in that matchup. But if

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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and declare Dexter Lawrence can make some hay

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Speaker 1: against the interior of the line, then that could be troublesome. Yep,

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Speaker 1: how do we feel right now about what are we

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Speaker 1: hearing right now about the health the two tackles. Obviously

475
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Speaker 1: they both played the last game, they've had it some

476
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Speaker 1: time off now with the buy. Are they backed close

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Speaker 1: to it to one hundred percent health or is a

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Speaker 1: situation where they're gonna have to battle this for the

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Speaker 1: rest get it? Get it. But I'm just saying, like

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Speaker 1: those injuries, the specifically the injuries, and I know guys

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Speaker 1: have nicks and bruises and they're gonna have that, but

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Speaker 1: just the injuries and them coming back, I would guess

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Speaker 1: I would guess both of them probably we pushed themselves

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Speaker 1: to come back, maybe a little bit early even just

485
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Speaker 1: to make because they saw how important that Philadelphia game was.

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Speaker 1: But all that being said, what are we hearing about

487
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Speaker 1: their injury status at this point as far as those

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Speaker 1: injuries are concerned, Well, they're both out there. Tyron got

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Speaker 1: some rehab work before practice, but like they're both in

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Speaker 1: uniform and practicing always a good sign. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: do the math in my head. Tyrone got hurt on

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Speaker 1: September twenty ninth minutes October thirty first, So they're saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not a true high ankle sprain, So

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Speaker 1: like that's right in line with especially with a week off,

495
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Speaker 1: Like that's right in line with how when you should

496
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Speaker 1: be feeling better. Same thing if it's a you know,

497
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Speaker 1: a mild MCL sprain. For Lyell, he got hurt on

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Speaker 1: October fifth, so you're talking three to four weeks. Like, again, yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: nobody's truly healthy, but like they should be right about

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Speaker 1: as good as you could expect them to be. But

501
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Speaker 1: if they aren't and they somebody gets hurt or maybe

502
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Speaker 1: they get hurt in the game, they're gonna have to

503
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Speaker 1: go down to the fourth tackle. Because it sounds like

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Speaker 1: camp flints. Cam's out this week. So Brandon Night and

505
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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was asked about this. Is he the backup

506
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Speaker 1: to both sides? And he said, we'll see. So I

507
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna try to play left and right tackle,

508
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Speaker 1: but I would think he might you'd be better suited

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Speaker 1: on the right side. So if something were to happen

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Speaker 1: to time with the tyring, I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 1: it could be they could do a lot of shuffle,

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Speaker 1: probably jumps out Zach. I don't know. I know, like

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin is definitely there, like break Glass absolutely in

514
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Speaker 1: case of an emergency. I don't know if they would

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Speaker 1: try Connor or Zach first. I mean, Connor's done it?

516
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Speaker 1: Is it bad that like Connor's done it more? But

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Speaker 1: like I totally I would be like Zach, get out there,

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yet more recent? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: because he's more fresh out of college. Like Zach hasn't

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Speaker 1: played tackle since the twenty thirteen college football season, so

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time. You probably also look at

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Speaker 1: it from a standpoint of Zach Zach. Zach is really

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Speaker 1: really good at guard. Connor has his moments, right, So

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna you don't want to take away from

525
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Speaker 1: what's really really good and put him out a tackle

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Speaker 1: where he may be a little less because he's not

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Speaker 1: used to it, versus moving Connor where you still may

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Speaker 1: be a little bit kind of shaky at times. Right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like that'sh Which player do you have

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Speaker 1: more confidence in to do the job that they're not

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Speaker 1: ready for? I guess I would. I think I would

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Speaker 1: just go with Brendon night. Yeah, just put him over

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Speaker 1: either side. He didn't do horrible when he got to

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Speaker 1: He really no, He's really played well and they helped him.

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Speaker 1: They helped him a pretty good amount of time. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you're gonna have to do either way,

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna in the game. Right. Part of me

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Speaker 1: just I just want to see how Zach Martin would

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Speaker 1: play a tackle, like, just for my I Actually I

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Speaker 1: asked him about that a few weeks ago. I was like,

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Speaker 1: is there any part of you that just wants to

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Speaker 1: know how you would do it tackle, just like because

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Speaker 1: you're a competitor, And he was like not really, and

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Speaker 1: I was like good. I was so disappointed. I was

545
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Speaker 1: like really, because like I'm dying to know. I just

546
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Speaker 1: want to see. But you seem like you're all world

547
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Speaker 1: at everything. So I'd like just to see if you

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Speaker 1: can translate it over to tackle. All right, we'll take

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Speaker 1: for us? Well, I have a watch party. It's coming Yep,

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Speaker 1: it's coming up November twenty fourth at what do you

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Speaker 1: go to watch party? He watched the Cowboys play the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots, and you watch them win, and it'll

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Speaker 1: Championship plods at the Star in Frisco. So the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: will take on the New England Patriots. They will not

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Speaker 1: be undefeated then, but they're just throwing out a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of predictions here. Only I feel like everybody's kind

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Speaker 1: of in the same boat there, not everybody. What do

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Speaker 1: you mean by that? Well, we talked to we were

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Speaker 1: on the show Happy Hour show Darren, what somethings that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys will win? I think brought us thinks the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys will win. It's just like a Cowboys thing into paytriots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now they're oh against the Pats. I was like, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that everybody thinks that they were wanting to

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Speaker 1: get well that's in my head. I'm like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: guess I think they're going to beat the Giants. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not there. I'm not there yet, but

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Speaker 1: it'll be a fun place to gather with your Cowboys

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Speaker 1: friends on November twenty fourth. Go out there, bundle up,

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Speaker 1: watch it out there at the Star and it'll be outside.

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Speaker 1: the Star District. I do think it will be an

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Speaker 1: entertaining and a close game. I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: there yet quite rather well, I'm ready to say the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I want to see how they play against three not

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Speaker 1: as good teams before I pick them to beat statistically

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Speaker 1: the best defense in the history of the league. Good point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not to mention the greatest quarterback of all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in a building where they never lose. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready for all of that. Just seems like it's a

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Speaker 1: little daunting. But I do think that this is the county.

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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys would give them a run. I

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Speaker 1: think they'd play they play him close because they would

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Speaker 1: get up for that game in a way that they'd

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys do is play stressful games, like right, fact,

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Speaker 1: so the fact that they played three unstressful games to

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Speaker 1: start the season is like the biggest upset of all time.

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Speaker 1: I'm ninety five percent there that I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: will win that game if they go and lose to

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Speaker 1: the Lions the week before there, because that's what they'll do. Now,

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Speaker 1: they go and blow out the Lions in Detroit. They're

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Speaker 1: just like the games they just Lions. They just run

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Speaker 1: through all. I don't like it. Yeah, oh they can play.

639
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Garret's got I'm playing. Well, watch this. But if they

640
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: they beat they beat the Vikings and then just roll

641
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: over Detroit. Yeah, I'm good about that. I don't like

642
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: that at all. All right, let's go ahead, jump back in.

643
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: We got some calls coming in you guys, call us

644
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: eighty eight eighty five five two two ninety seven or

645
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: hit us on Twitter at Derek Eagleton. Let's take a

646
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: call from Travis and Michigan. Travis, what Traf? How's it going?

647
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: How you doing great? But doing good? I'm glad to

648
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: get in. I tried getting yesterday was talking because Mickey

649
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: was he can on the Adams trade and all that,

650
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: and he brought up a point that kind of had

651
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 1: an epiphany for me. He brought up a point and

652
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: said him and brought us were going back and forth,

653
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: which they always do, which is always good, but he

654
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: said something like, he said something like Woodson, you know

655
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: if he is he Woodson? Is he Woodson? Because I'll

656
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: gi up a first round pick if he's Woodson. And

657
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, is the organization and you know,

658
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: the team itself, are we holding ourselves back by thinking

659
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm only going to give up a first round pick

660
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: if the guys Woodson. Like, I know Woodson's stature and

661
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, within the organization and the team, and he

662
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: was awesome, He's great. But I feel like we're holding

663
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: this standard to Woodson and saying like, if even that Woodson,

664
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm not making a deal for him. And I understand

665
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: the price is high, but I'm kind of with Nick

666
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: where I'm a draft nerd. I totally get it. You

667
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: want to build the draft and you want to give

668
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: a baskets one hundred percent, But at a certain point

669
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: the house is built. So if you're if you're there,

670
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: make a move to be there. Jerry's talked about it before.

671
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: He wants to win. Now to me, it doesn't seem

672
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: like a win now move. And on top of that,

673
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: you're kind of telling me that you don't think this

674
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: team is one player away if you're trying to go

675
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: get Adams, So like, which is it either we're there

676
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: and we're all in, or you don't think we can

677
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: compete with the Niners and the other teams, which I

678
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of don't think either. I think this was the

679
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: move that they needed to make, and that's just my

680
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: frustration as a fan. So are you saying that you

681
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: were willing to in this instance, again, if we're going

682
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: according to reports, you would be willing to give up

683
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: a first in two seconds to secure Adams because you

684
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: think that gets you over the top and you're not

685
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: concerned about what that means for the future. I'm not,

686
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you brought that up there, because I are.

687
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: You and David brought the fact that, well, you gotta

688
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: have holes in the off season. What if you lose

689
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: a left tackle or if you've got to replace this.

690
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: The simple fact is right now, you have a left tackle,

691
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: you have a right tackle. Yeah, next year you will

692
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: not have Next year, you will not have that defensive end.

693
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: Next year you will have to probably replenish your defensive tackle.

694
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: Next year, you may have to replace your your cornerback.

695
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: So those those are things that are that are real

696
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be here next offseason. The Rams will too.

697
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Does that have to do with anything? I don't understand

698
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: The Rams will all in. They made a trade for

699
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: Dayling Rams. Okay, And that's again I don't I don't

700
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: follow the Rams. I don't talk about the Rams, So

701
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure how that

702
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: fits into their long term plans and what else they

703
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: got to do this offseason. And I get you, And

704
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: again I'm not against what you're saying. I really am

705
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: am not. I'm just trying to be clear on on

706
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: making sure that that I understand you when you say

707
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: you want to do it, that you're saying, I'm good

708
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: and going all in first two seconds for the purposes

709
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: of securing this player. Yeah, okay, let me just say

710
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: one more thing, one more thing real quick. I feel

711
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: like way back in the day we talked about and

712
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't support to see there, we used

713
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: to build different agency. We bought, we bought, we bought,

714
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: we spent, we spent, we spent. I feel like, now

715
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: we've gone I'm told again, I'm totally with it. We've

716
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: built to the draft. We've built a really good team.

717
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: It's there, but you're building building building. At some point

718
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: you've got to win. You gotta win now, Like that's

719
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: my thing. And I know they've got one hundred percent

720
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: more towards the drafts id you since Steven's kind of

721
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: taken over a little bit more and Boo mcclay's in there.

722
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: I get that, but like there's got to be a

723
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: healthy balance of like, yeah, you can lose some guys

724
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: next year, well plug him in. But I trust the

725
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: scouting stuff. I'm in with three agents, a few of

726
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: them not high priced guys. But you can you can

727
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: work it, massage the cab, you can work it that

728
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: they can build spots. I believe and move one year

729
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: all in and then if you have a down year

730
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: but you make it to the championship games, they want

731
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: to get to care if they go six and ten,

732
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl this year, do you care? Well?

733
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: I think I mean the fact and nice of the call.

734
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: I love the call. I think I think Travis brought

735
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: up a lot of concerns that a lot of fans

736
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: have and like it's you know, I'm not trying to

737
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: ride the fence. Like I really feel both ways about it.

738
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think it's kind of funny that Mickey

739
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: compared Jamal Adams to Woody, because like he is Woody,

740
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: Like he's that good. Sorry, Mack, he's much younger. Yeah,

741
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a cop out. Honestly, is just a

742
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: way of saying, but I don't know what the answer was.

743
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: What's then the answer is, yes, he's a he is

744
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: a Swiss army knife. He's not. He's probably not gonna

745
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: get you eight picks in a season, but neither did Woody.

746
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: Like he can play all over the fricking field. He can,

747
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: He's ferocious against the run, his instincts are off the charts.

748
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: Nobody ever asks him to play in the slot, but

749
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: I bet he could in a pinch um. So he

750
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: is woods and so like, if that's the case, they

751
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: should have done it. This whole thing is not about

752
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: the evaluation of the player. I think everybody was on

753
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: the same page that this, Yeah, this is the price.

754
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: This was all about the price. Are you willing to

755
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: give up a one? I think the Cowboys probably would

756
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: have been all in on that. Are you willing to

757
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: give up a one in two twos? I think the

758
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: Jets that's that sounds like that was their asking price,

759
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: and that doesn't seem like this I heard. I heard

760
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: Mike Fisher on that same show last night make that point.

761
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: And it's really a great point because if you think

762
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: about it, the Jets are saying three guys. The Cowboys

763
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: are saying one. That ain't even close if the reports

764
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: are true. Yea, if that's close. I don't know. That's

765
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: one report. We've heard other reports, so it's hard. It's

766
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: hard to balance it all. I don't think I would

767
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: have taken two twos. But my point is about the

768
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys love those two. Yeah, but they haven't been very good.

769
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: Like I think that's a fair statement. I mean, I

770
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: think you can say that that has been, that has

771
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: been up and down. I don't think it has been.

772
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: It hasn't been. I don't think it has been for

773
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I mean, I don't give me

774
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence because the mark because he's the thirty

775
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: fourth pick in the draft. That is a very high second.

776
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: If you look at where these picks will be fifty

777
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: or more. I went and look this up. Give me

778
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: every every second round pick in the history of the Cowboys,

779
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: fifty to six. We're not talking about those. We're talking

780
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: about the ones that McClay even and Jerry. He's making

781
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: a really good point in all honesty, I know, but

782
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, let's not say that in history, because the

783
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: same people weren't making when they've drafted at the back

784
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: end of the second and they got Gregory, they got

785
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: They've had one pet pretty good, one pro bowler. It's

786
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: Sean Lee who was picked fifty. But I'm just saying,

787
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: because if you get Jamal Adams, this team's gonna be

788
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: picking twenty fifth or so and then fifty five. So

789
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: you're picking in the fifties. The track record says that

790
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: hasn't been very good. To take that, So I don't

791
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: think you have to give up two twos. I think

792
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: you have to give up one two. If I'm giving

793
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: up one two in the next year's draft and I

794
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: haven't been picking very well in the fifties, I'll take

795
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: my chances, you know, I mean, I get to them.

796
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. They had to trade up

797
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: to get him at thirty four. I will tell you this,

798
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: if if the offer was really down to a first

799
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: and a second, maybe I go with them there, and

800
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe I go with you there, especially if they're split

801
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: over two years. So this year I don't get a one,

802
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: next year I don't get a two. Maybe I'm there,

803
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: but the reports are true there was one in two twos.

804
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm not. That's just too much for me that I

805
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: got it. The draft becomes my lifeblood. When I've got

806
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: all these high priced guys that are my frontline guys,

807
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: I need the drafting l to replenish. And I'm gonna

808
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: try to use Travis as analogy. He said the house

809
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: is already built. He's right, but I'm trying to imagine.

810
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: I've never built a house, but I'm imagining like you're

811
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: in the finishing process, like the final steps of this,

812
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, do you want the badass covered

813
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: back porch with the fire pit and the flat screen TV,

814
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: and then your budget is just completely wiped, so you

815
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: got no money when something breaks, or do you just

816
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: want the concrete slab with some patio chairs and then

817
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: when you start to have problems, you got some money

818
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: left over. Because that's the choice you're dealing with here,

819
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: and honestly, as much as I would love to have

820
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, but I get why they're doing it because

821
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: you need those picks. And again the point Travis brought up, Yes,

822
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: the Rams are clearly going all in. They have not

823
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl yet. They played like crap and

824
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: lost it last year, and if they don't do it

825
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: this year, they're probably in deep crap because all of

826
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're asking Jared Goff and Aaron Donald to

827
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: carry a team that has no high picks and is

828
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: saddled with huge contracts everywhere else. And I'm assuming that

829
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: means they're probably a little bit older, like the average

830
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: age of it they become Seattle And I could be wrong,

831
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: but I don't think Jared Goff is Russell Wilson. I

832
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: don't think he is. And so I'm with you on that.

833
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Nobody you're saying you have to carry it because they

834
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: went all in and they won, right and then they

835
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of and then they figured, you know, everyone else signed.

836
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: If the Rams win the Super Bowl this year, then

837
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: it will have been worth it. And if they don't,

838
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: I think they're in a heap of trouble and for

839
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: anybody that's gonna come at me and say like, well,

840
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: it's been twenty five years since we've even been to

841
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: a conference championship game. Like, don't kid yourself that you'll

842
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: be okay with that. Like, if you're gonna push your

843
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: chips in and they lose the NFC title Game or

844
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: lose the Super Bowl, you're not gonna feel good about that.

845
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna be miserable. And then then the narrative will

846
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: be how many years since you've won the Super Bowl? Right?

847
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: Been there? And by the way, you've just mortgaged your future,

848
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: so now it's about to be downhill. It's not like

849
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Speaker 1: you're going to keep that window open for a long

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Speaker 1: period of time. I don't know. I'm I'm the one

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Speaker 1: that would say go all in because you've had all

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00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: these years where the Cowboys have had successful draft and

853
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: they do have a lot of talent, But where has

854
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: that gotten you so far? Nowhere? Really, So it's like, Okay,

855
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Speaker 1: this is a year and every year the team changes.

856
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Speaker 1: Next year, you're not going to have the same team

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Speaker 1: that you have right now. You're gonna lose some talent

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Speaker 1: because of the money and all that. So if this

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Speaker 1: is a year to do it. We're here now, it's

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00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: this present. Not worry about the future. The future will come.

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Speaker 1: You get some other We don't know what's going to

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00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: happen with the coaching, but let's say, Okay, Jason Garrett,

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Speaker 1: time is up, and then you get somebody else who

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Speaker 1: can actually get some things out of these talented players

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Speaker 1: and the guys that you do have on the roster.

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Speaker 1: So at one point it's like enough, it's enough, and

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Speaker 1: you are ready to put all it, all your chips in.

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Speaker 1: And I think that this is the one time where

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Speaker 1: fans truly feel that this is the time because of

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00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: the player talent. I don't think they feel the same

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Speaker 1: way for Jason Garrett, but because of the talent that's

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Speaker 1: being put out on the field, I think this is

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Speaker 1: where fans get frustrated and they think, Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: the year to actually get it done. And I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think most people probably are just really disappointed because

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00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: this was the opportunity to take your team over, like

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00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: you would have felt like going into this last AffA season,

878
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: you felt like you had talent on this defense to

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00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: be the best defense in the league. And that says

880
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: a lot because there's some good defenses in this league.

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00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: But you would have felt like that talent acquired with

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, with what you already had here, you would

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00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: have felt great about that. And that's why I think

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00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: there's so much disappointment from fans. It's just because they

885
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: saw it there. It was right, seemed like he was

886
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: right there in reach, and then all of a sudden,

887
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: it's not there. Let's go sorry, let's go even more

888
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: macro though, Like I hadn't even really considered this, but

889
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: there are people making those decisions that are probably in

890
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: some part of their brain thinking we might have to

891
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: reshape this team for a new coach in the coming

892
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: in the nearer or distant future, and the whole new

893
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: show Dave not having first the second round picks is

894
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: not a great way to start a new regime. Just literally,

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00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: that just popped in my mind. It's it's sorry I

896
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: keep cutting you off. That go ahead, right, No, I

897
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: was just saying, what another point that guy made was,

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00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: you know you always have everyone's got that that rich

899
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: friend that just has a lot of money and they

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00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: don't ever spend anything like they don't ever. He's like,

901
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: I know, you're not pointing at me. Yeah, they save it.

902
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: They save it. They're like, you know, and I'm like,

903
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: when are you gonna spend I mean what, I get it,

904
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: you're saving them for whatever, but at some point spend

905
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: the damn money. And it's like, let's just the you know,

906
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: moving it back, moving it back. At some point, you

907
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: know what, You've got two aces and there's an ace

908
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: on there. You gotta just go all in at some point.

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00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: And I think I would have done it. That would

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00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: have been the moment for you. I think, so I

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00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: there's no way to not I'm riding the fence and

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00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I think I would have done it too.

913
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Speaker 1: But I know it's their responsibility to keep this team

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Speaker 1: competitive for three, four or five years from now. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm a little bit disappointed, but I

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Speaker 1: don't I'm not just see anything mad that they didn't

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Speaker 1: do this deal. I'm just not right. I could. I

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00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: could probably be convinced both ways. And I do see

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Speaker 1: the value. That's the part. That's the part that trips

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00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: you up as you see the value and you see

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Speaker 1: the potential. But I also see the part where you

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Speaker 1: could be looking here a year or two down the

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Speaker 1: road and you're like, man, that was not a great

924
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: decision because I do think last year in the draft,

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Speaker 1: they had an opportunity to get what we would have

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Speaker 1: been the best safety in the draft, for the second

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Speaker 1: best safety in the draft in the second round. Like

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Speaker 1: there are still opportunities where they could get talented safeties.

929
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Speaker 1: They just haven't addressed it like that, you know. And

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00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: so if you really think you gotta upgrade your safety position,

931
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Speaker 1: why not use that second round picking go get yourself

932
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Speaker 1: a freaking safety. It is funny that they'd be willing

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Speaker 1: to do a major deal to get a safety but

934
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Speaker 1: not just pick one at fifty eight, right, which I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is a different animal than one Thornhill. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. Yeah, all right, we appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: You want us for back Tomorrow, We're gonna wrap this

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Speaker 1: thing up. Let you guys know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: This is the second time you got hyped up of

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00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: all the safety that's annoying. That was an arrow tip.

941
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: There's a question. There's a question that a fan hatch

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Speaker 1: yesterday about I mean today about that, and I'm actually

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00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: gonna bring it up tomorrow because I thought It was

944
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: a good question about these back to back times that

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Speaker 1: really we've been talking significantly about safeties around the league

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Speaker 1: and what that means for what the Cowboys really think

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Speaker 1: about their safety position. But we'll talk about that. Shouts

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Speaker 1: out to Travis. That was a good little a little

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Speaker 1: good little dialogue for Nick, even Dave helm and Abergarcia.

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Speaker 1: I'm Derek Hielton. This has been The Break live on

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