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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 3: Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy

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Speaker 3: be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black

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Speaker 3: Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Hay Classmates or the

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Speaker 3: ones that are in detention because y'all are the bad ones.

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Speaker 3: It is another episode of selective ignorance. And y'all, we

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Speaker 3: are getting into all the things today. First, the freedom

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Speaker 3: He is taking on the CEO of Tilanov. He allegedly

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Speaker 1: We are getting into it this week.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have a double dose of being Carla because

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Speaker 3: To me, I think emotions are always tied to what's

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Speaker 3: coming out of you at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

444
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Speaker 3: I also think the idea that people believed he was

445
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Speaker 3: celebrating the death of a man when that wasn't his intention.

446
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Speaker 3: So he didn't even it, didn't even even Carla.

447
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Speaker 1: Let me, let Carla, let me finish, Let me finish. Girl.

448
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Speaker 1: We're gonna we gonna let each other talk this episode.

449
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I think that there was

450
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Speaker 1: a lot of.

451
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Speaker 3: Emotions and things that took place for him personally, not

452
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Speaker 3: just as a TV anchor, but as a human being,

453
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Speaker 3: with the idea of losing his job, the thing that

454
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Speaker 3: he does, you know, daily during the week, what he's

455
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Speaker 3: been doing for what the last fifteen, twenty years, or

456
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Speaker 3: however long he's had the show, I think that being

457
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Speaker 3: misunderstood or and again we're on such a micro level

458
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Speaker 3: of it, I can imagine where certain people were reaching

459
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Speaker 3: out and support of him. Also, all of the hate

460
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Speaker 3: that he endured during the week for people insinuating or

461
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Speaker 3: assuming that the joke was in celebration of the death

462
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Speaker 3: of another man. And he just has to be at

463
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Speaker 3: a family who had kids. No, he doesn't have to

464
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Speaker 3: be quiet, you know what I'm saying. During six days

465
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Speaker 3: he just had to be quiet.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting. No, Well, not only you had to.

467
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Speaker 3: Be quiet, but a human being is not just quiet

468
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Speaker 3: for six days.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

470
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Speaker 3: He wasn't on air, but he was a human being

471
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Speaker 3: that lived those twenty four hours each of those days,

472
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Speaker 3: enduring a lot, probably getting lawyers involved dealing with okay,

473
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Speaker 3: am I still old my contracts? So his livelihood was

474
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Speaker 3: at stake. Yes, character was assassinated, like over a joke

475
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Speaker 3: about someone who was literally assassinated, when that wasn't his intent.

476
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Speaker 3: His intent was to correct jokes at the lack of

477
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Speaker 3: mourning or lack of empathy that our president actually had

478
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Speaker 3: for this person that he called a friend. And again,

479
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Speaker 3: if you go back to outside of the people that

480
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Speaker 3: showed support at the same time he's the emotions make

481
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Speaker 3: all the sense as to why in this opening monologue,

482
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Speaker 3: in the monologue to follow, why he would have been emotional.

483
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Speaker 3: Do I think those tiers Charlie Kirk, absolutely not. Those

484
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Speaker 3: tears were for everything that he just had to endure

485
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Speaker 3: over the past week, And to me, I genuinely couldn't

486
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Speaker 3: imagine what that looked like.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean, if I even want to to.

488
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Speaker 3: Somewhat tried to feel like know what it would have

489
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Speaker 3: felt like, bro when we announced the end of.

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Speaker 1: Searbing.

491
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Speaker 3: Is even horrible because horrible was fake and that was

492
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Speaker 3: me playing into my marketing bit. I knew it was

493
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Speaker 3: all fake, so I didn't take anything serious because clearly

494
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Speaker 3: nobody knew what was happening. But in terms of me,

495
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Speaker 3: one it actually see the thing is brought like so

496
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Speaker 3: much emotional like things like I mean to be fair.

497
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Speaker 3: That's what led me into therapy. Well, we chose to

498
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Speaker 3: stay after the one co host left. The things that

499
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Speaker 3: people had to say about my character and how I

500
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Speaker 3: felt about women and their bodies or you know, them

501
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: not feeling safe in certain environments, and the attacks just

502
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: on my character were terrible. Yeah, then we stay. Then

503
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: we choose to leave. So then I have all the

504
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: in cells that followed this man who don't care about

505
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Speaker 3: is behaviors and actions, and I become a villain because

506
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Speaker 3: I choose to end a business agreement and move on,

507
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Speaker 3: and then to be fear when me and an old

508
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Speaker 3: girl broke up at the end of that because it

509
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Speaker 3: no longer served me. Like the the mental strain of

510
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Speaker 3: what you endure when you make a decision and the

511
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: public has the right that to the right to have

512
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Speaker 3: those to have an opinion.

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Speaker 5: I think that's what we come back and ground ourselves

514
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Speaker 5: as individuals.

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Speaker 1: And Jimmy Kimmel, of course it's it's a it's a

516
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Speaker 1: bigger stage, but that's when we also have to check

517
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Speaker 1: in with ourselves.

518
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Speaker 5: And it's great that you went to therapy because we

519
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 5: have to look at our validation doesn't come from the

520
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 5: people's opinions.

521
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Speaker 1: Right.

522
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Speaker 5: That doesn't take away the fact that it is heavy,

523
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 5: it is dark, it is ugly, it's it's only happened

524
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: to me very few times where like what I said

525
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 5: or something goes viral, people are really upset. I'm and

526
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Speaker 5: that's part of the reason where I also stay in

527
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 5: my bubble in Orlando because I can shut off all

528
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 5: the electronics and no one around here knows who the

529
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 5: hell I am. Right, I can just walk around and

530
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 5: it doesn't change that. So sometimes you have to shut

531
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Speaker 5: it all off, but it doesn't change. And now I

532
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: do agree with you. I'm one of those people that

533
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: like can't stand somebody who got an opinion or something

534
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 5: they don't watch the whole hate it because the same thing,

535
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 5: like recently you just did you just didn't watch it.

536
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Speaker 5: I'm like, I didn't like the crying, but I didn't

537
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 5: watch it, so I don't have an opinion on on

538
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 5: his money.

539
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Speaker 1: But you know, but you did. But that's the thing.

540
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Speaker 3: In the moment, you were like, yeah, but right, but

541
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Speaker 3: you still chose to have an opinion about something that

542
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: you didn't watch him full context.

543
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Speaker 1: And so I just said he was crying over. Yeah,

544
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Speaker 1: that's an he was crying.

545
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 5: Over and it just made me not want to watch it.

546
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Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna say, oh, he it was bad,

547
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 5: it was terrible. No, but got none of that.

548
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.

549
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Speaker 3: But you also because you tied again lack of comprehension,

550
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Speaker 3: You tied the emotion. Oh yeah, I'm calling you outenion,

551
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: lack of comprehension because you tied his tears to almost

552
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Speaker 3: the morning of Charlie Kirk.

553
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Speaker 5: I made an assumption that's what it was for. But

554
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Speaker 5: also I've never been a fan of Jimmy Kimmel, so

555
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: I didn't care. So I definitely assumed. So you should

556
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: have seen assumption. Similar recently, I watched that clip of

557
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Speaker 5: Young Thug on the Pivot talking about Mariah the scientists saying,

558
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 5: don't get a therapist like you got me whatever. But

559
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: when I watched the full context of it all, it

560
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: made so much sense to me as to why he

561
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: would even think that way.

562
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's all coming from.

563
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Speaker 5: A place he was coming from a place the wait second,

564
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Speaker 5: I didn't think it came from a place of selfish

565
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Speaker 5: It's like, I think it came from a place of

566
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Speaker 5: the lack of knowledge.

567
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I was about to say it came from ignorance.

568
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: That's like, like you can call someone out for ignorance.

569
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: You chose to draw those those Wait, so can tell

570
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: you what I thought about it real quick, and then

571
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: we'll move on from this because we were on a

572
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 5: free speech When he is now exploring his feelings something

573
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: he's never done before. It's brand new, so he's feeling like,

574
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 5: I'm this is new to him, right, So he'll now

575
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 5: start talking to his family and friends. He's like, Okay,

576
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 5: well we got each other right now, this is something new.

577
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: I'm working on this and it's expanding him right. Eventually,

578
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: hopefully he'll grow to the next level, which is therapy.

579
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: I think you start opening out to those people that

580
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: know you first. Okay, I hopefully I'm safe here and

581
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 5: then go to the therapy. I think that he comes

582
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: from a place where he never knew. Bro, how many

583
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 5: people do not know what.

584
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Speaker 1: The hell therapy is.

585
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 5: They really still think that it's you laying on a

586
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: couch with a pillow behind you and a therapist.

587
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Speaker 1: Say mm hmmm, So how do you feel about that

588
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: he don't get what the therapy is? I get it.

589
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: I think you'll think that that's all.

590
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Speaker 3: I don't think he'll get there, but I mean, yeah,

591
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll get there, but I think.

592
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Speaker 5: That I hope that he does, and I hope that

593
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: after that interview with the Pivot, he gets more and

594
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Speaker 5: more men that are emotionally mature and that can really

595
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Speaker 5: get him to that space.

596
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Speaker 1: It won't be overnight, but hopefully. I love it.

597
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Speaker 3: I love that you're leaning into hopefulness. Assumptions, girl, things

598
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Speaker 3: you didn't finish. Jesus, that's like, girl, where do we

599
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: go without hope? We're not gonna talk about that. Actually,

600
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Speaker 3: let's get into that, because I literally had that conversation

601
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: this week about this literally.

602
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: The same thing.

603
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: So no, no, no, no, So the rapture was supposed to

604
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: take place last Tuesday. It did not mind you This

605
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: stemmed from a priest in South Africa who went viralhet saying,

606
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: prophet priest, we not going to sit here. It's all

607
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: the same, but just a different word none. Because prophets

608
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: are here to tell us. There are prophets, but there

609
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: are tons. Just as there are real prophets, there are

610
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: false prophets. So people believe that prophets are telling us

611
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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 1: He lie. He's straight from Africa.

613
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Speaker 3: Well, by the way, he is a South African pastor.

614
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: He could be a prophet too. He had a prophecy

615
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: come to him. But he leads the church. His name

616
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: is Joshua Malekola. It's very tough, but he is who

617
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: so prophets again, pastor priests. He leads the congregation, all

618
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Speaker 3: the pastor's priests.

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Speaker 1: I'll try in a minute while I think the word prophecy.

620
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: It's a big one, but go ahead.

621
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: Well, this pastor pretty much went viral with his prediction

622
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: that the rapture was coming and that it would take

623
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: place on either September twenty third or the twenty fourth.

624
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: He predicted these dates, and the prediction of the dates

625
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: came with the alignment with rash Hashana. The start of

626
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: the Jewish New Year and a date that many Christians

627
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: associate with biblical end time prophecies. Clearly, we're still here,

628
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: rig still do Trump stiled the president. We still live

629
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: in in this simulation where the aliens are laughing at

630
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: us now in terms of speaking about the rapture, and

631
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: I guess I'll let you get off your thoughts on prophecy,

632
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: because once again, this is part of the lines in

633
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: which we are on opposite ends of I am not

634
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: very religious, and it's interesting because I do want to

635
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: share why I had this conversation about religion this week,

636
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: leaning into your talk about hope. Now, don't want to

637
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: make this. I don't want to like anyone listening who

638
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: goes to church. Good for you, I'm gonna.

639
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Start your opinion.

640
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: It's your decision to do so. It was just interesting,

641
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: y'all know. I live in Atlanta now and my best

642
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: friend had a baby dedication for a one year old,

643
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: dedicating her son's life to Christ and her church where

644
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: it was beautiful. It was also a production, and it

645
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: was interesting because going to this mega church. Let me

646
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: tell you how megachurchy it was.

647
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: Before I get.

648
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: Into my thoughts about why people go it was so megachurchy, y'all.

649
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: Devon Franklin came out on stage and talked about you

650
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: know what God had in store for him and proceeded

651
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: to share the trailer to his new Netflix show Ruth

652
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: and Boaz. So individual of church, y'all, I'm watching this

653
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: man pretty much promote his new Netflix show to the congregation,

654
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: which to me felt a little strange. It just felt

655
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: really productiony. Secondly, I ended up going to have lunch

656
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: at a steakhouse and sat at a bar by myself,

657
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: and as I'm mentioning what took place at this, the

658
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: lady across from me, who had just went to the

659
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: Falcons Commander's game, was like, oh, the church you went to?

660
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: Was this right?

661
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: And I said yes, And so we had we started

662
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: having this deep conversation around religion, and it led me

663
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: to why I might be so anti religion and Carla will,

664
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: I would love to have this brief conversation.

665
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to breath.

666
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: Let's make a brief a religious episode. But the conversation

667
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: stemmed around hope and I literally said, you know, I

668
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: like to use the sea word in terms of religions.

669
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: For many reasons. The sea word is cult.

670
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

671
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: We also talked about the hypocrisy of how many times

672
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: the people that go to church day in and day

673
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: out are sometimes the most mean individuals. They're the most

674
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: hypocritical individuals, they're the most judgy individuals, and they don't

675
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: essentially align with the words of God. Right, And so

676
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: I ended up speaking to and Carla, if you can

677
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: pull up her name, I say this, the Jamaican Miss

678
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: Universe recently committed suicide. She hung herself in her bedroom

679
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: and it was left as a message on her social

680
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: media that the pretense of it stemmed from her no

681
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 3: longer believing that Jesus was here. Becai how much evil

682
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: there we got that tyra rip and it leads into

683
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: the fact that she just didn't see the purpose of

684
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: living anymore, because there's no way that there was a God.

685
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: There was no way that anything that was taught to

686
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: us through religious scriptures, that God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit,

687
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: any of it existed because of the evil that is

688
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: currently in like that we're living amongst. And so it's

689
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: interesting because back to my conversation, I literally said, the

690
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: reason that religion exists is for hope.

691
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: I said, there are.

692
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: So many people that would unlive themselves or have zero

693
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: desire to live, whether it be their financial stakes, whether

694
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: it be the trauma, theyan dirt at the hands of

695
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: other individuals, whether it be just the miserable state, the

696
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: depression that they're living in.

697
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: If there was no.

698
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Hope that God was going to see them through, that

699
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: there was life after death, that heaven existed, that they

700
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: just had to keep showing up and things would get

701
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: better if they had no hope, which religion, that's essentially

702
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: what it gives you. Without hope, there's no reason to live.

703
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: And so, Carlo, what you just said about hope is

704
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: literally why I think people go to church all Sundays

705
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: and even believe in the God, the Higher Power of

706
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit Allah Mohammed, all these things because without that,

707
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: I genuinely believe that people would have no reason to live. So,

708
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: do you have a different yes, relationship with religion and

709
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: this idea of hope you said people need hope absolutely,

710
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: is that what.

711
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Religion gives you.

712
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 5: Well, there's there's a thing called faith. Right, So going

713
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 5: back to the megachurch where you started, Like a church,

714
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 5: no matter how big or how small it is, is

715
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 5: not what defines Jesus. You just definitely said where two

716
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 5: are more gathered, I'm there, so we don't need this

717
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: huge bills.

718
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: And so God be in the bedroom with us. You're gathered,

719
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: so we're more be gathering than the bed. And it

720
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: could be right now, this conversation that we're having.

721
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: Right now, I can say something that will spark something

722
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: and someone else to say I want to get closer

723
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: to God. Or you can use your microphone to also

724
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: minister to someone and say get away away from the church.

725
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: Right, it's I want to wait.

726
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: I want to be very clear.

727
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: I do not minister to push people away from their religions.

728
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 5: Someone can side with your opinion and said, you know what,

729
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 5: I also believe what she's saying. I I side with that.

730
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: I resonate with that. So Jesus is not found in lights,

731
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 5: They're not found in stages, and not how the music.

732
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 5: He's found in the Gospel. And you have to actually

733
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 5: read the word. So when we're focusing on a building,

734
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: his scripture is not there. Right, it comes from the

735
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 5: message that He was giving us. So we can't confuse

736
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: the church being a vessel with the church being God.

737
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 5: The church is just a vessel to get us to

738
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: understand this perfect and unperfect size. So a megachurch can

739
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: feel like fake, like a concert, and you can't take

740
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 5: it seriously. And I get it because it's overwhelming. It

741
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 5: could be distracting, but you can't be blind to the

742
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 5: message that you're receiving. So now when we go over

743
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 5: to how do you, how do you take on this part,

744
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 5: Jesus is the focus, not the fear of the people

745
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 5: that are within that church that are sucking, fucking the

746
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: secretary taking.

747
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: The money, you know, laundering money whatever.

748
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 5: That shouldn't be our focus. There is evil if you

749
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 5: read the word, and it will tell you there is evil.

750
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: It exists, but there's a lot of when, so it's temporary.

751
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 5: He's over overcome this if we believe and we have

752
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 5: this faith. He died on the cross for our sins,

753
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: but the people around him still didn't believe in him.

754
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: There was literally a man next to him and he's like,

755
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 5: give your life to him. He's like, I know, I

756
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: won't see you. And there was a man who gave

757
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: his life right there. And then going back to the rapture.

758
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: False prophets aren't new, they're not forever. We had why

759
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 5: to k we had the cult of nineteen ninety seven,

760
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 5: the Heaven's Gate cult, where tons of people they did

761
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: a mass suicide, a literal mass suicide. They did the

762
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 5: eighty eight reasons why the ratual will be nineteen eighty eight.

763
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 5: There was still no rapture. I was born a year prior.

764
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 5: I would have only been one when it all ended.

765
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 5: So we have to also understand that we're about Jesus

766
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: when we take the faith out of when we take

767
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: Jesus out of it and we go to the church

768
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 5: itself and.

769
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 1: Devon Devon made this movie. I actually watched it. Let's

770
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: be very clear. I interviewed Soreya on Decisions Decisions. She

771
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: was a sweetheart.

772
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: Tyler Lepley is too fine to be on screen because

773
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: I didn't care what he had to say. I just

774
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: like looking at him. He is very harm and I

775
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: was hoping for a sex scene the whole time.

776
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I want to do this.

777
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: I want you to go back to this idea of hope,

778
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: because that's yes. So the hope in the faith has

779
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: to be there. You have to believe in something where

780
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: do you anchor yourself. We are not the source of power.

781
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: We know that because it comes up and it goes down,

782
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: it dims, we feel weak, we feel like we have

783
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 5: imposter syndrome, we get sick. We have to have an

784
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 5: anchor somewhere. So your spiritual health is going to come

785
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 5: with feeding yourself with the truth. Right, So when you

786
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 5: focus on the fear or on the building and the

787
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 5: people that are doing evil, then your heart gets hardened,

788
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: you get heavy, and then there's no way you can

789
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 5: believe in any of this. Right.

790
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: So I would just say, feel your spirit with actually

791
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: reading the word. So to me, anyone that.

792
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: Comes to me and tells me about Christianity, that has

793
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 5: not opened that book, that is not sitting here every

794
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 5: day and saying, Okay, I want to do one hundred

795
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 5: days of studying the Bible.

796
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: I want to go through.

797
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: And be like, okay, what am I talking about today?

798
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 5: I'm here with Isaiah forty six ten. I'm going to

799
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 5: declare this what what did the word really say?

800
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: Now? What Pastor J did my pastor have to say?

801
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I can can I ask you? Can I ask you

802
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: a question?

803
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: Then, as a person who's not rooted in religion, there

804
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: was a question.

805
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: You made a statement.

806
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 3: And I mean I didn't know if you were asking

807
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: me that. But if I don't have a belief system,

808
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: are you asking why what I'm rooted in and why

809
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: I choose to continue living? That is constantly going to

810
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: be up and down. It's because it's not I've never

811
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: I've not I've never thought of unliving myself.

812
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: One moment.

813
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: Let me let me, let me get my because when

814
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: you're I hear you talking, I open I've opened the

815
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: book I used to be in missions, right, But you

816
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: said that we have to believe in something, we have

817
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: to be rooted in something, otherwise we don't know, you know,

818
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: we don't have an angle or where we go or

819
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: why are you here if you don't believe in something?

820
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because I'm not in a place where

821
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to be here. So like when I

822
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: hear you talk, I hear you, right, but from my

823
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: own personal experience, I don't really hear you.

824
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: Or understand what you're saying.

825
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: Because as a person who's never not wanted to live

826
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: on this earth, mind you, with all the shit even

827
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: happening in America right now, I still America's the only

828
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: place I see myself and want to live. I know

829
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: everybody out here getting other passports to go elsewhere. I'm

830
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: still here. So it's interesting to hear you speak that

831
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: way and then me sit and be like, well, I

832
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: don't not want to be here because I don't live

833
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: a faith based life.

834
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 5: Well I don't think I'm talking about just unliving yourself right. So,

835
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: whether you don't believe in God, you have to believe

836
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 5: in something.

837
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: Even if it's yourself. Right.

838
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 5: So whether you believe in science, whether you believe in

839
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: success is the power of it, whether you believe in

840
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 5: nothing at all, there's always a core belief shaping how

841
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 5: you live. So what holds you on when shit gets real?

842
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: What has it?

843
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 5: So without roots, you drift, You're constantly drifting. So a

844
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 5: double minded mind is always is in all his ways.

845
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: A double minded mind is unstable in all of his ways.

846
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 5: That's something that's from the Bible.

847
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: So if you don't, if you're not where you're rooted,

848
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: you don't have to believe in what's crazy is I'm

849
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: r gravity to pull you down. There's gravity. Yeah, I

850
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: get that.

851
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: But again I guess my roots come from, and maybe

852
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: my belief in happiness, which sounds like fucking the pursuit

853
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: of happiness bullshit, but it's where.

854
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: Do you when things get rough, when you're like it's dark.

855
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: My therapist, I sit, I cry, I talk to myself,

856
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: for you know, there's not any higher power that I

857
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: think can fully pull me out. It's me sitting with myself.

858
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: I've had a lot of different relationships with myself. I've

859
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: viewed myself even as different entities in some cases. I

860
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: talk about it in my book, like I look at

861
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: my younger self as a different version of myself. I

862
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: look at the person in my twenties is a different version.

863
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: It's just interesting hearing you speak this way about grounding

864
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: and rooting and belief when it's hard to say that

865
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: I believe in. I guess anything right now I live

866
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: with And maybe it's because I have a staunch like

867
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: perception of logic, like I see what I see, it's

868
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: right there. One of my least favorite subjects growing up

869
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: was history, and now I love it because what does

870
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: it do? Repeat itself time and time again. I look

871
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: at what's happened and what's happening right in front me,

872
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 3: and that's all I can do. So and I didn't

873
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: want to spend too much time here, but maybe this

874
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: is something I can bring to this.

875
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it's my selective ignorance. That absolutely could be because

876
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: on my end, we change. We're constantly changing, so we

877
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: can't be the root of it all.

878
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 5: My beliefs and what I feel right now can't be

879
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: the root of my living and where I want to

880
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 5: go because that's going to change.

881
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: So again, we're forever evolving.

882
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: So life is throwing things at us constantly that we

883
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 5: cannot handle alone. You don't handle anything alone. You have friends,

884
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 5: you have therapists, you have Wi's counsel. It doesn't have

885
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: to be in the spiritual space, but you have White's

886
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: counsel that you go to. We can't do it. We

887
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: were not created to do life alone. So you have

888
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: to believe in something, whether it's in those friends. But

889
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 5: those friends also have believed and that's.

890
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Where it is.

891
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't feel alone, and I said that

892
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: all the time as someone who's single as well, not

893
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 3: really single, because I got four boyfriends, so I'm really

894
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: not alone right now. But with my community, it's what

895
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: makes me not feel the loneliness even when I didn't

896
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: wait wait, because I also don't want to stay here

897
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: too long. Okay, like girl, we forty five minutes in

898
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: it way right top that I'd get excited, girl, you

899
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: be getting excited. But also I would love to know

900
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: your thoughts. If you're listening to this, then you feel

901
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: it in yourself to maybe explain it differently to me,

902
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: please hop in my DMS, I'm always open for conversation.

903
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: And this is why I love this platform so much,

904
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: because again I can maybe just acknowledge my ignorance, Like

905
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: maybe it's my ignorance and religion. Maybe it's my ignorance

906
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: and understanding. I think it's you know too, there's a

907
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: set I haven't here. Yeah, but there is no fear

908
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: like I have fear before the pandemic. I genuinely feel

909
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 3: like nothing is in our power. I feel like the

910
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: government had a hand in the pandemic. Like again I

911
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: lean into the conspiracy theories and a lot of it

912
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: seems to hold a lot of truth and sets and

913
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: somewhat facts. So to me, I mean, it's not I

914
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: don't live in fear anymore. Like if today's my day,

915
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: it's my day. But I I just want to live

916
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: in again. Maybe I am just living in the pursuit

917
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: of happiness and when I'm happy, and what's happy all

918
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: the things that make me happy sometimes just putting my

919
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 3: toes in the sand on a beach in an island,

920
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: being able to afford my own first class ticket in moments, that's.

921
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: No if you have to ask eccession for your your

922
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: feet and get to know, I don't.

923
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: I'm from Florida. I could go see my family, drive

924
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: to the coast and you know, like, babe, that's privilege

925
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: right there, you're having it.

926
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: But Carla, rubbing.

927
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: My toes in the sand is not success. There are

928
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people, the homelessness and poor can go

929
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: rub their feet in the sand.

930
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: When you ask me what's happening, Carla, Yes, they can.

931
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: If you live in Florida, or you live anywhere where

932
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: there is water, you do not need a home, success

933
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: or money to go dip your toes in the water.

934
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Why are you getting from here?

935
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: You're not listening. You have to listen, Carla. I said,

936
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: for anyone who lives where there is beach, I'm talking

937
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: about land, but no, I'm talking about in general. You

938
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: said that success for me, You asked what brings me happiness?

939
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: Those are things, but those are things that can also

940
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: bring someone without success happiness.

941
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: It's a homeless person.

942
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: If a homeless person lives in Cocoa Beach or Tampa, Florida,

943
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: or Miami South Beach, they can go and dip their

944
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: toes in the sand and water. Dipping your dipping your

945
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 3: feet and toes in sand is not synonymous.

946
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: To say that.

947
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 5: I think you're taking it away. We're talking about you.

948
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 5: For you, in order to be able to do these things,

949
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 5: you have to be, right, Bro, what else makes me happy?

950
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 5: Sitting in the middle of a goddamn park? Like, there

951
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 5: are so many things that bring happiness to me that have.

952
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Literally nothing they want to do, that have literally nothing

953
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: to do. Real quick.

954
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 5: The fact that you're even able to sit in a

955
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 5: park for some time without losing your mind because you

956
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 5: don't have to work a sixteen eighteen hour day every

957
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 5: single day, then go home and take care of you

958
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like, that's part of your success

959
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: that allows you to have that.

960
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: F that. But I know what I'm saying, But that's

961
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that that is not what I was saying.

962
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: In terms of what brings me happiness is not synonymous

963
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: to success. And I say that because there is people

964
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: who deem having kids and being able to go home

965
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: to them every day as a success. Like yes, however,

966
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: you define happiness though, again, the things that I define

967
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: as happiness are not synonymous to success, and vice versa.

968
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: People we're gonna agree to disagree because it's absolutely not synonymous.

969
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: And you know, again, y'all, what shapes what shapes are

970
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: goddamn opinions.

971
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

972
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: Anyways, I want to get into.

973
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: Before I finished, I do want to say that when

974
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 5: I speak on these things, I'm not coming from a

975
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 5: place of I'm coming for a place of relatability.

976
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: I live with tons of fear. At times. I have

977
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: to check myself.

978
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 5: There's times that I think I reach certain places that

979
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 5: I have to remind myself it was not just me.

980
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: There's so many other factors outside of it. So when

981
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 5: I talk about faith to you or to anyone listening.

982
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: It's not coming from a place of perfection because I

983
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: am nowhere near clue.

984
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: There's tons of times that I have fear. This is

985
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: a lot of times that I have doubt. There's it

986
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 5: hits me. I'm in the midst of that right now

987
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: as we speak, and then I lean further. So everyone

988
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 5: has what they lean into to feel better and to

989
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 5: succeed and to get that.

990
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, just I'm not perfect.

991
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 5: When I speak on these things, I speak on it

992
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: because when I read it, I feel it it happens.

993
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: There's miracles that have happened in my life.

994
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 5: There's things that have happened that I can't attribute it

995
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 5: to anyone else or anything else, but that is in

996
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 5: my life.

997
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: That's why I tell everyone, don't take my word. Go

998
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: read that word for yourself.

999
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: I can't only tell you what I read, what I

1000
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 5: interpret it, how it goes, what it's done.

1001
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: But that is for you to interpret and go read it,

1002
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: not just take my word yet take the word. Okay,

1003
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: can move on. Woo we spent You know what's crazy.

1004
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 3: I started that segment off with let's be brief here,

1005
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: and she said yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be briefed. Yeah, yea,

1006
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: yea yeah, Okay. I wanted to get into and I mean, clearly,

1007
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: this is where I know you have far more opinions

1008
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 3: on it than me. This week, Trump, after losing his

1009
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: fight to Jimmy Kimmel, chose to pick another fight with

1010
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: the CEO of Tailanol. He came out to pretty much say, hey,

1011
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: if you really don't have to. Don't take tylanol because

1012
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 3: it's what's causing autism out in these streets. He also

1013
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: poked fun at Ozimpic, saying that he sees that it

1014
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: works for some and doesn't work for others because some

1015
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: people are still fat on the ozimpic.

1016
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: He is nuts.

1017
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: But this past couple days it's been very interesting because

1018
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 3: since him saying this and coming forward Tilanaw, it has

1019
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: been reported that doctor oz is now the face of

1020
00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: some other pharmaceutical carlic. Can you explain what is happening

1021
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: right now as a mother of a child with autism,

1022
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 3: how this impacted you. I know, even during the week

1023
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: you said you had to get offline.

1024
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 5: I did, I got off I didn't. I didn't want

1025
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 5: to watch and I'm trying to pull up it's I herb.

1026
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 5: I believe it's the company.

1027
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: But so they didn't never said that.

1028
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 5: Taalana was the cause of autism. They're saying that it's

1029
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 5: it could be a factor. But there there are no

1030
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 5: tests on pregnant women right because it's anthing right to

1031
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 5: treat a fetis, you know.

1032
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: Pregnant women, So that hasn't been done.

1033
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 5: So could Tavano possibly have costs some autism and some

1034
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 5: people I don't know. Maybe, but then we also have

1035
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: to think about that they drink, where they come from,

1036
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 5: what is their food like, what is their environment, what

1037
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 5: is the pollution. There's all these different genes and I

1038
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 5: don't want to get into the science aspect of because

1039
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 5: I don't fucking know that.

1040
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: I gave birth to a child with autism. That's it.

1041
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 5: And I didn't take tabana. And then they tell you

1042
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 5: what you did to spread out and not do and

1043
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 5: the hebitize me, I didn't do those vaccines.

1044
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: I only did.

1045
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: I did do some vaccine, but I spread them and

1046
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 5: I only did about half of these that he needed

1047
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 5: to do. Still have a child with autism, So to me,

1048
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 5: it just feels like it's an attack and it's scary

1049
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 5: to me where I feel like it's being labeled children

1050
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 5: with autism and going back, I'm I have been public

1051
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 5: and being like, you know what if there's and we

1052
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 5: won't go into this, this will take us on a

1053
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 5: rabbit hole. I'm like, people were intellectual disabilities shouldn't have babies, right,

1054
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 5: And I was like, you know, if you're completely intellectually disabled,

1055
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: they shouldn't. And then I went down reading and learning

1056
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 5: about the Beck versus Bell bet Buck versus Bell in

1057
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: the nineteen hundreds, where it was like a family of

1058
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 5: a young woman who was raped at a very young age,

1059
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: had the baby. They deemed her promiscuous and also she

1060
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 5: had an intellectual disability. Now they started using that to

1061
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 5: stop people of color and all these other people for

1062
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 5: having kids.

1063
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: So I feel like.

1064
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 3: Are they trying to do? What was that because I'd

1065
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: like to look into that. That was versus h Buck

1066
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: versus Bell, okay, and this.

1067
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 5: Is a white family. And then it turned on into

1068
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 5: they they they sterilized.

1069
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, we go we go

1070
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: get into the okay, because that's the rabbit. But I

1071
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: feel like they're putting people with autism into this bubble,

1072
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: So like, what are we gonna do next? We're making

1073
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: it a them thing. We're making it like, oh, are there,

1074
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: they're less than people.

1075
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: We're gonna make now that people with autism what they

1076
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 5: did with African Americans where we were like what was

1077
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 5: it one third or one fis of a person?

1078
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: Whatever? It was a three fence of a person three

1079
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: fifths three fits? So is it are we going in

1080
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: that direction? Also?

1081
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 5: He had a right hand man with him for the

1082
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 5: whole beginning of his presidency.

1083
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: Who is in the spectrum? Elon who? Elon?

1084
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 5: Yes, Asperger's Asperger's no longer is Asperger's Asperger's now.

1085
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: So that's so, and that's what I saw.

1086
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: It's interesting because when we talk numbers, when we talk

1087
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: about what's really happening. So he pretty much said that

1088
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: there was like either it was either forty or a

1089
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 3: four hundred percent increasing die diagnosis of autism. However, in

1090
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: and I want to pull the date because I don't

1091
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 3: want to just be pulling this out my ass. But recently,

1092
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: in the last two decades, they've now redefined autism by

1093
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: including a lot of other things in it. So, yes,

1094
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Speaker 3: if you are now using an umbrella term, right, so

1095
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: autism now includes five other disorders. Of course, the percentage

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: of people with autism is going to increase because now

1097
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: you're including all of these other diagnosis and putting it

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00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: under the umbrella term of autism.

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00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: Like, so spectrum, it's not just autism, Well, there's there's there's.

1100
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: A spectrum of all the things like and when you

1101
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: talk about behavior or health, and when you talk about

1102
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: things like bipolar add ADHD, which let's be very clear,

1103
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 3: oh C D all the d's, the a's, the d's,

1104
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 3: the C is, the H and whatever. All when you

1105
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: see here and have the conversations, and it's crazy because

1106
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to have another conversation about this. I dig

1107
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: into mental health. For so long these things autism, diagnosis

1108
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 3: in general diseases.

1109
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: Were viewed as a terrible thing.

1110
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: It's why even in the black community STDs there's another D,

1111
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: people don't even they'd rather just not know, just go

1112
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: and get tested. And so there's this huge thing in

1113
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 3: terms of the healthcare system, pharmaceuticals and public fear back

1114
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 3: to that word, fear of being told they're not perfect

1115
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: or something is quote unquote wrong with that, the wrong

1116
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: it's the wrong part, it's the wrong part. And so

1117
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: hearing this man go up there and again this is

1118
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: maybe why I don't have roots in any specific beliefs,

1119
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: because he says this on one week and literally less

1120
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: than a week later, it's now tied that he potentially

1121
00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: has some sort of business with another with another pharmaceutical company.

1122
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: So what is that there's something wrong with autism? And

1123
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: now they're like telling a crossing it now let's go

1124
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: and take this medication. So there's this medication now that

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00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: they're approving through that.

1126
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 5: Okay, what is thisica emptoms of autism? I don't know

1127
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 5: what that symptom is going to be because everyone is different. Again,

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00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 5: we have a spectrum. Like today, if I get my psychiatrist,

1129
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: if you want to get tested, because you're pretty probably

1130
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 5: on the spectrum, and it's like, what was it going

1131
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: to do for me?

1132
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: Is it gonna give me a handicap sticker? Is it

1133
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: going to give me some government health? I'd be wanting

1134
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: a handicap sticker. I don't get nothing. I even got

1135
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: a car.

1136
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: I don't even got a car, And I'd be like,

1137
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: why you ain't got a handicapped sticker?

1138
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: Even when I be in the car.

1139
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: Because everybody got to I say it all the time,

1140
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: everybody undiagnosed with.

1141
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: Some shop something. Everybody. There's all kinds of mental health.

1142
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 5: Everybody undiagnosed. I've been around now and again. Autism is

1143
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: one of those things. I guess it's being we hear

1144
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 5: more about it now. But if you watch Love on

1145
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 5: the Spectrum on Netflix, that's a great place to start

1146
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: to see how sweet these people are. They're so loving,

1147
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: they don't lie. They're very blind. You might get a

1148
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 5: spectrum too, they're very blind. They have zero filter the

1149
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 5: way that they say things. My son read Hungry Caterpillar recently,

1150
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 5: over and over again.

1151
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: It was his buck.

1152
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: I'll you know what I don't like when people start

1153
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 3: trying to diagnose people.

1154
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: That's what I don't like. No, I can tell you everybody, No,

1155
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: I think everyone.

1156
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: Everyone is on the spectrum.

1157
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Even even the way.

1158
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: You're expressing or explaining how these people behave right, everyone's crazy.

1159
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the crazy thing.

1160
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: When we talk about the the roots or or expectations

1161
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: or societal norms, it's like this one window of what

1162
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: they consider to be right and everything outside.

1163
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: Of that is wrong.

1164
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: And that's where in terms of of maybe why I

1165
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: questioned fucking everything is because the government, these white men,

1166
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: these these these motherfuckers who lean into false ways in

1167
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: which they they they stem from greed, they send Christian

1168
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: Christian beliefs, they stem from the patriarchy. There's all of

1169
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: these things that we know are not quote unquote good.

1170
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 3: But yet when we talk about how they and when

1171
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: I say they, it's how the system of how we're

1172
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: supposed to operate as human beings is outlined. It's outlined

1173
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: and rooted in a goddamn white man's beliefs and with

1174
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: the belief system and what's going to benefit them. So

1175
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 3: this idea is too that we all have to be

1176
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: diagnosed with with something because we don't align with how

1177
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: they perceive to be right, like bro social awareness, social awkwardness,

1178
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: social cues, bitch to what society is society.

1179
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 5: And when everyone lives on this device, everybody is socially awkward.

1180
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: Everybody is socially awkward, but we don't know how to

1181
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: have conversations. The technology is taking over.

1182
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 5: There's all these different things, but the of the day,

1183
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 5: I feel like we need to play the game sometimes,

1184
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 5: especially I go hold you.

1185
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: We might need to bring we might need to bring

1186
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs back from the day. If you ask me.

1187
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of autistic like the thing what's his name?

1188
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: The diagnosis of autism is increasing because of these goddamn phones.

1189
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: No, I think narcissism is increasing because of the phones.

1190
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 5: No, narcissism is increasing because you have to have validation

1191
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 5: from people and you're able to do stuff.

1192
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: I think that's why that's a lot.

1193
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: Of people get but at the end of the day,

1194
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: we go we're not because we're not gonna get it.

1195
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: That us next week in one episode, it's gonna be

1196
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: a thirteen hour show.

1197
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: No, So I herb as the company that doctor Oz

1198
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: has it says five to twenty five million dollars invested

1199
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: into it, so he's part of it. It's one of

1200
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: his companies, yes, that he's invested into. I looked it

1201
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: up on robbin Hood last night because I said, well,

1202
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: how much money can I put it into this?

1203
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 5: Because they create the medication and that now they're saying

1204
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 5: that it's gonna be FDA approved for autism symptoms.

1205
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: Which symptoms that is?

1206
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 5: I don't know, but they're gonna make money off of it.

1207
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 5: So I would say, if it's a publicly traded company,

1208
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 5: y'all go ahead and.

1209
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: Buy some stock. I don't know. Don't believe me. I'm

1210
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: not an expert on this, but I did see. I'm like,

1211
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: there's a game to play here. They're playing a fucking game.

1212
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: What is it?

1213
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: What is the end goal? Where's my child? That end

1214
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: goal is to be rich? That is it.

1215
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck about curing the symptoms and

1216
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: if you're watching on video, it's the Salt Air quotes.

1217
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck about humans, bro. We see

1218
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: what the fuck they're doing with ice, We see how

1219
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: to fuck. They don't give a fuck if you really

1220
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 3: American or not. And now I'm using a whole bunch

1221
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: of F words and saying all that. But what this

1222
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: is where I come across and maybe again it's.

1223
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: Delivery, bro.

1224
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 4: I I have.

1225
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: Probably frustration more than anything with the hypocrisy around around

1226
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: the people in leadership.

1227
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: They don't really give both about us.

1228
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 3: And I say that too in hell of frustration because

1229
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 3: they've just.

1230
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: Defunded a lot of the Planned parenthoods.

1231
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: And so when I was just in New York, I

1232
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 3: went to Planned Parenthood, and mind you, there's a Planned

1233
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: Parenthood that I've been going to for like the last

1234
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 3: two to three years, and maybe I have never seen

1235
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: the waiting room as packed as it was, and literally

1236
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: it's because so many of the individuals in there post

1237
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 3: November may not be able to get seen or be

1238
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: able to go and visit and get the things that

1239
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: they need. And so it just frustrates me to know that,

1240
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: like now there's this thing to help autistic individuals, and

1241
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: it's like, y'all don't give a fuck about helping people.

1242
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: Look what y'all are doing to people who are actually

1243
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: naturalized citizens and live here in this country, and are

1244
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: the people the workers that we constantly girl, don't get

1245
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: me goddamn started speaking of naturalized citizens and ice. Bad

1246
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: Bunnie has been announced as the super.

1247
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: Bowl half time performer.

1248
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: And I know and I know that that transition is

1249
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 3: going to sound crazy, But we talk about selective outrage. Allegedly,

1250
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: this is why people are outraged. So Bad Bunny was

1251
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: recently announced as the Super Bowl halftime performer. However, this

1252
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: comes after he also announced that he would not have

1253
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 3: any tour dates in the United States due to his

1254
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: fear of ice, and then potentially targeting his concerts as

1255
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: it means to round up people that may or may

1256
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: not supposed to be here, knowing that the majority of

1257
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: his audience is Latino. Now, yes, I will say I

1258
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: only know one Bad Bunny song, but I'm excited to

1259
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: see him because I like how he gyrates.

1260
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: This is me with my.

1261
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 3: Fucking selective ignorance, the bumping that little bumping his little

1262
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: dick like I ain't not about it, about it. Don't

1263
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: look it, don't look little, but he could have a

1264
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: sock in there. I don't know, but I kind of

1265
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: my algorithm happens. That's the only thing I know about

1266
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: Bad Boney is his little dick jomp that he does

1267
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: a little dick jump dance. Anyways, the people are confused

1268
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 3: because they're like, wait, how do you not perform in

1269
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: the US, but you choose to be censor stage for

1270
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: the largest, one of the largest events that happens in America. Now,

1271
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you your thoughts because I will

1272
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 3: start with saying.

1273
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: Comprehension skills are left amongst us. I don't guy they

1274
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: want to though. They just want to hate people do

1275
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: just want to be outraged at literally anything.

1276
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 5: A full blown hate like there are there are so

1277
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 5: many countries that are Spanish, so many, so many, like

1278
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 5: Spanish is a huge language. But before we go there,

1279
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 5: they want to be angry, they want to be outraged.

1280
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 5: Bad Money did his Amazon concert of the last one

1281
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 5: in Porto Rico, wrote eleven million viewers.

1282
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: It literally tripled what Beyonce and all these other people

1283
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: have done before. Right, that's one. He is huge and

1284
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of stupid to even address it as.

1285
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 5: To why they're like, oh, he said he won't coming

1286
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 5: over here, but he wants our dollar again.

1287
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe people still don't know this. People do

1288
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: not get it, not that he wants our dollar.

1289
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 5: Well, yet, there's not one that gets paid to be

1290
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 5: part of a super Bowl. They actually have to pay

1291
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 5: out of their own po to create this.

1292
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: This production.

1293
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 5: That's the NFL gives them a budget, but a lot

1294
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 5: of times they come out of pocket to do even

1295
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 5: more of what they want to do. That's one, they're

1296
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 5: not getting the American dollar for this. Yes, the streams

1297
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 5: then go up and they make money off of that,

1298
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 5: but that's number one.

1299
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: Two.

1300
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 5: Hey, sus Pedro and Maria from down the street that

1301
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 5: is running from Ice because they came here with their

1302
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 5: families to have a better life, is not going to

1303
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 5: be spending seven thousand dollars to get a ticket for

1304
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 5: the super Bowl.

1305
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: It's not happening. That's a different type of hate. Suos

1306
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: and Pedro is going to be there, but it's not

1307
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: the one that's running away from Ice trying to make

1308
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: sure they can take care of their family while cleaning

1309
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: Trump's fucking toilets. That's what he's saying that he wants

1310
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: to protect.

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01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 5: Is that bad? How do we not understand that the

1312
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 5: people that are arguing about, oh now you want to

1313
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 5: come up with on do this word? You can't even

1314
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 5: afford to go to the super Bowl. The super Bowl

1315
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 5: is I agree Ice is not going to be out there.

1316
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: I agree Ice is not targeting the Super Bowl, whether

1317
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: a Latino performer takes the center.

1318
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: Stage or nine is an American. He was born in

1319
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. He is from Puerto Rico. He is a

1320
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: naturalized born American citizen. All of us are American citizens.

1321
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: I am a little nervous. I feel like we're gonna

1322
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: be the are supposed to go when he gets rid

1323
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: of everybody else. Then the Puerto rican is actually the

1324
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: way the actually before Puerto Rico.

1325
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 3: I would say Hawaii because Hawaii done with people even

1326
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: coming there to be tourists like Hawaii, Hawaii gonna be

1327
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: the parts to just not be a part of a state.

1328
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: Though we're just a territory. So I feel like you

1329
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: can get rid of wa Hawaii is a state bitch,

1330
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Anywhere Hawaii is a state. Weird fight.

1331
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 5: Well, their bad bunny is in the side of Puerto

1332
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 5: Rico where he does not want to become a state.

1333
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 5: They want to be independent, they don't. They do not

1334
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 5: want America to be governing them the way that they do.

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: I know.

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: That's that's why a part of me, while you were

1337
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: getting your ship off, I was like, Eh, Puerto Ricans

1338
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: don't really.

1339
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: Say the American yes that real quick when the Dominican's

1340
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: been trying to say something. Bitch, I'm American. Go here

1341
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: with your little boat. I can get here in jet

1342
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: blue that you gotta sweep. This is what I could

1343
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: come on spirit. Well, this is where you take it

1344
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: to fall. That's insane.

1345
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 5: That's that's like the rude thing I'm telling you. Puerto Ricans,

1346
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 5: we know very clear that we are American. We are

1347
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 5: very clear on that.

1348
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's the frustration though, that's

1349
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 3: the frustration. Right Like in terms of the Latino community,

1350
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: there's like now it's now this this I'm seeing it

1351
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 3: be segregated the same way we are as as there's

1352
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: African Americans.

1353
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: Then you had Nageria.

1354
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: Then you even got right now, bitch, Tea Savage and

1355
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 3: Tyler got like a little rip between Nigerians and South

1356
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 3: Africans for their how they show up as apologists to

1357
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: the United States and our culture.

1358
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of things.

1359
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Ta Savage Savage went on the Breakfast Club

1360
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 3: and apologized for Tyler.

1361
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: And her and her comments on being colored and.

1362
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 5: From South bast Yeah, from such, she didn't want to

1363
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 5: became colored, right or she don't want to be girl.

1364
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 3: So so Tiwa who is from Nigeria apologized for taila girl.

1365
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: Tala hops on that goddamn Golden Golden the Global Citizen

1366
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 3: stage and said sorry, but I'm not sorry, bitch. How

1367
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 3: are you gonna sit up there and apodcast for me?

1368
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: And you come from a whole other country with a

1369
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 3: whole different history, like Nigeria does not have the same

1370
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 3: history that is rooted in South Africa and the apartheid

1371
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: and everything that happened because they were colonized by two

1372
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 3: different people.

1373
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 5: And that's the same thing with Hispanics, right, Puerto Ricans

1374
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 5: are Americans. But at the same time, there's so much colorism.

1375
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 5: There's so much of it. It's like that's how I

1376
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 5: don't understand the Cuba's like some of them, some of

1377
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 5: us have more African roots than others just because of

1378
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 5: the way that literally the slave trade came.

1379
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: They're more right now. I'll be honest with you.

1380
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 3: First off, you like that bunny, you wanted to go

1381
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: to Puerto Rico, so I know you're excited, but it's

1382
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 3: not there.

1383
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: It's different. Why I wan to go. I was born

1384
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico. The things that he talks about is

1385
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: my upbringing. I up there.

1386
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 5: I was born there, I went to school there. I

1387
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 5: ate there's the things that he's talking about. When when

1388
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 5: Mark Anthony came out, he's singing from nineteen ninety nine,

1389
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 5: that's all.

1390
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: Makes me cry, like that's precious, that's precious, beautiful.

1391
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 5: It's calling like a beautiful, calling the island beautiful, and

1392
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 5: it talks about how the Indians were there and how

1393
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 5: the colonizers came, and how beautiful the beaches are.

1394
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 1: No matter how much they done, you can't call them anymore.

1395
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: They're Native Americans. Who's Native Americans? No, we have the Indians.

1396
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: We have you know, Indians, Oh but those are you know?

1397
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: And yeah, we we had Indians and they're called there's different,

1398
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: three different types. Do you call them Indians? Yeah? The

1399
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: Indians was there. We call them India, but Indians from India.

1400
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 5: Okay, there's certain No, they're Diino Indians. We have different

1401
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 5: types of Indian tribes that were in Puerto Rico before

1402
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 5: the slave trade and the Europeans came.

1403
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: And what were they native to Puerto Rico?

1404
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, okay, so it's still kind of native Indians

1405
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: only because Indians are Indie from me.

1406
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be Native Americans. That'd be like native Puerto

1407
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: rican I don't know who named the Puerto Rico that part.

1408
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. I was born in my versus,

1409
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't.

1410
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 3: It's interesting because allegedly Adele and Taylor Swift turned down

1411
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 3: the haftime performance slot. This is alleged I thought, I'm Taylor.

1412
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm more excited, and you know what, I wouldn't have

1413
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 3: cared to see. I don't think that Adele her music

1414
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 3: makes sense for a halftime performance. It's the same way

1415
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: I think it's sometimes interesting when they have R and

1416
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: B singers on certain festival stages.

1417
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: I just don't think that would make sense.

1418
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: And then Taylor, I'm just not a fan. So I'm

1419
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 3: more excited to see the dick jump dance, even though

1420
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 3: I won't understand a word.

1421
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna make it so culture. He's literally bringing

1422
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: Puerto Ricoh, he's the world stage. Oh girl, it's gonna

1423
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: look like Orchard Beach. So I'm gonna see. I'm gonna see.

1424
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 3: Fuck the American flight, bitch, we go see the Puerto

1425
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 3: Rican played this. We're gonna be a Puerto Rican parade

1426
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 3: world one one hundred per sect. I already told my

1427
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: friends here locally, I'm throwing a party. Everybody needs to

1428
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 3: wear a bandana of Puerto Rico as a shirt. We're

1429
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 3: gonna eats. And I do want to say one thing

1430
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 3: that Tina, the Taino Indy that just looked at it,

1431
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: was that I don't want to be like that one

1432
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 3: Porto Rican. That's fuse fixed wrong stuff. They started in

1433
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: South America and migrated to the Caribbean islands around twelve hundred,

1434
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 3: so they were in Puerto Rico, Cuba, Haiti, Dominican Republic,

1435
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: in Jamaica, so Jamaica also, okay, Tino Indian.

1436
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 5: So then we got taken over by the white in

1437
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 5: the slave trade. But AnyWho, bad money. I'm hell fucking

1438
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 5: excited about it. I think he's great. I love the

1439
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 5: fact that he'll do Jimmy Kimmel or any of those shows,

1440
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 5: and when they ask him something, he'll answer in Spanish,

1441
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 5: and he's like, I want to really articulate this. He

1442
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 5: can speak English, but he's like, I'm not gonna be

1443
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 5: able to give it that hit and the answer I won't,

1444
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 5: so he just gives it an in Spanish, and he's so.

1445
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: He loves his island.

1446
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 5: He loves his country, and it makes us who are

1447
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: no longer there really be like, man, that is so beautiful.

1448
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: Thank you for making us love the island even more

1449
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: when we're not living there. Yeah. I did a few

1450
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: years of Spanish class and didn't get what you got.

1451
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: Didn't get far enough to listen to Spanish music or

1452
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: reggaeton or salfa or or it's I just don't I

1453
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 3: don't know.

1454
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: The words enough. I enjoy saying half the time he's like,

1455
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: young thug, what are you saying? He doesn't stay with

1456
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: his money. I understand tha, No, I don't do that.

1457
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't under do that.

1458
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 3: And I understand tha enough to not like some of

1459
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: his new music, which I'm upset by, but nonetheless, none

1460
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 3: the less. Nonetheless, y'all, this was I hope it made

1461
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 3: you feel something some because that's the point.

1462
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: That's the point of this goddamn show. I enjoy these

1463
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: types of conversations.

1464
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: I enjoy conversations with people with differences of opinions, and

1465
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 3: I think it's important to continue those I just over

1466
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: the last week, these four topics specifically have been just

1467
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 3: where my mind has literally fell down rabbit holes. And

1468
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you guys care about these things,

1469
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: but would love to know what conversations you would love

1470
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: for me to have with a guest, and if you

1471
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 3: have the idea of the guests you want to sit

1472
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 3: with that you know I have a difference of opinion

1473
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: about I love to understand. I love to make sure

1474
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: we understand each other, and I love to just have

1475
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: these open conversations. And again it's why I was like,

1476
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 3: what or.

1477
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: Am I right? It's gonna be taken away from me?

1478
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: Hate it now. When they say they're gonna shut you up,

1479
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: that's when you care. You're like, oh no, bit like, oh.

1480
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: Bitch, the idea of having to shut up, Yeah, if

1481
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 3: you want a cade, okay, okay, my right to talk

1482
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: on a microphone, oh bitch, I will hop on a

1483
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 3: goddamn plane to go get an abortion. If I had

1484
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 3: to like this, the women's rights we've all been having

1485
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: a final with that unpaid wages, the white women getting

1486
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,480
Speaker 3: more than the black women in the same sex conversation,

1487
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 3: Like there are things that maybe I get it, I mean,

1488
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 3: and I'm here fighting for it. Will I see a

1489
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 3: change in my lifetime? I do not know, But I'll

1490
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 3: continue to be a pioneer of the things I'm doing.

1491
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 3: But maybe you take away my voice. My voice actually

1492
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 3: may be what I live for. The idea that I

1493
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 3: can literally being able to live, being able to live.

1494
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: And express myself. Bro.

1495
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 3: If I were able to express myself, if I lived

1496
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: in some of these countries where literally as a woman,

1497
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 3: I can't even have an expression of fashion because I

1498
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 3: have to cover myself whole. The idea that I can't

1499
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 3: speak or be educated or continue learning or have these

1500
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 3: types of conversations, Bro, I would be devastated, Like what

1501
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 3: is life if I can't have these types.

1502
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: Of Can we point out that this was the reality

1503
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: of our grandparents were fool?

1504
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: I get it, and I know we're not just crazy

1505
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 3: that we've made this problem, But so I'll continue being

1506
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: a pioneer. Will I see the changes seeing that they're

1507
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 3: still people that live through the Holocaust. The civil rights

1508
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: bitch is the Titanic. We don't live through the nine

1509
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 3: to eleven terrorist attacks, a pandemic like are so a

1510
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 3: rapture that didn't come y two K. So for me,

1511
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: I don't have much hope in seeing change here because unfortunately,

1512
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 3: as we take one step forward, we get pushed ten

1513
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 3: steps back. But yes, I understand it's the reality of

1514
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: some of our grandparents, our great grandparents, and I know

1515
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 3: that it's all honestly, Carla, like I said, the reality

1516
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 3: of people that are living right now, just in other

1517
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 3: parts of the world. And so for me, that's what

1518
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: scares me. Bro. I don't know what I would do anyways, y'all,

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Speaker 3: if if we made you think episode mission accomplished, if

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Speaker 3: we made you feel upset, angry, if we made you

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Speaker 3: teeter with our side, you know that you that you

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Speaker 3: stood on you know there's that too. So Carla, can

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Speaker 3: you let the people know where they can find you,

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Speaker 3: where they can listen to you, where they can support you,

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Speaker 3: where they can probably dis fucking agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I love disagreements because it also gets us to think about.

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Speaker 1: So this is why I love that you have this

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Speaker 1: platform as well. But you can find me anywhere on

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Speaker 1: social media at car Lobel Maris.

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Speaker 5: I am the founder of Idea to Launch Podcasts and

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Speaker 5: production so anything podcasting.

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Speaker 1: If you're trying, you've been sitting on an idea for

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Speaker 1: a podcast and you're like, I can't do it. Look,

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Speaker 1: Mandy and I.

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Speaker 5: Clearly are in our homes right now with a microphone

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Speaker 5: and a computer recording this episode that you're watching and

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Speaker 5: or listening to. And I can help you do the

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Speaker 5: exact same thing. Help you set up your studio for

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Speaker 5: a very It does not have to be expensive Mandy's is,

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Speaker 5: but I can help you do so without it being

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Speaker 5: expensive and still giving you studio quality and video. And

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Speaker 5: we are coming and launching podcasts PhD very soon before

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Speaker 5: the start of before the end of the year. That way,

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Speaker 5: by the time twenty twenty six comes, that you've had

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Speaker 5: that idea of podcasts and you can get it out

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Speaker 5: there for entrepreneurs, creatives and all the fun stuff.

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Speaker 3: I love it, and y'all, as always, you can catch

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Speaker 3: me on my other podcast Decisions Decisions. If you are

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta, you can catch me every Saturday from six

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Speaker 3: to eight. We are off the clock on Hot one

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Speaker 3: seventy nine. And of course, thank you for everyone supporting

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Speaker 3: this venture. We are only I don't know, we're less

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Speaker 3: than forty episodes in and the conversations to me have

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Speaker 3: been powerful. I want to shout out to all the

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Speaker 3: guests that have been here. And of course we are

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Speaker 3: moving to two times a week. I know we've done

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Speaker 3: it just a little bit, but we are. I have

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Speaker 3: my setup and we are locking in to bringing Selective

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Speaker 3: Ignorance to you every Tuesday and every Friday.

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Speaker 1: But until then, y'all, this is selective.

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Speaker 3: Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter.

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Speaker 1: See you Friday next week. Thank you by y'all.

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Speaker 3: Selective Ignorance a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning in the Selective Ignorance of Mandy B.

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Speaker 4: Selective Ignorance. It's executive produced to Buy Mandy B. And

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Speaker 4: it's a full court media studio production with lead producers

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Speaker 4: Jason Mondriguez.

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Speaker 1: That's me and Aaron A. King Howard.

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Speaker 4: Now do us a favor and rate, subscribe, comment, and

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Speaker 4: share wherever you get your favorite podcasts, and be sure

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Speaker 4: to follow Selective Ignorance on Instagram at Selective Underscore Ignorance.

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Speaker 4: And of course, if you're not following our hosts Mandy B,

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Speaker 4: make sure you're following her at full Court Pumps.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: If you want the full video experience of Selective Ignorance,

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Speaker 4: make sure you subscribe to the Patreon. It's patreon dot

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Speaker 4: com backslash Selective Ignorance.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and celebrating five years of the Black

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Speaker 2: Effect podcast network with us. Keep following because the next

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Speaker 2: five years are about to be even bigger