1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Gloomberg even to Washington, d C, 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg dwell unders to San Francisco, Bloomberg 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: to the Country, Exam General one, and around the globe 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Radio, Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberk Surveillance. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Good Morning A thirty on All Street I Michael McKee 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: along with Tom Keene. Economic Indicators brought to you by 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Commonwealth Financial Network. When it's time to change the conversation, 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: talk with a broker dealer r I A. That's regular. 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Listen called eight six six four six two three three eight, 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: or visit Commonwealth dot com to learn more. A number 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: of numbers out right now, perhaps the most important one. 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: The trade balance for March comes in at forty point 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: four billion. That is significantly lower than Februaries forty seven 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: point one, and it's lower than the forty one point 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: two that had been forecast by economists. That suggests the 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: first quarter numbers for GDP would be revised. Higher productivity 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: and cost This is the second estimate here. The first 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: estimate rather for productivity and costs for the first quarter 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: UH productivity down one percent in the prior quarter was 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: down one point seven percent on a revised basis, so 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: an improvement in a negative sense. Unit labor costs though 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: up four point one percent in the fourth quarter two 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: point seven percent. Unit labor costs starting to rise. That's 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 1: an inflation concern. Let's see what happens to the bond 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: market after that. Later this morning, we get the I 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: s M Non Manufacturing Composite Index at ten am, along 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: with factory orders and an update on durable goods and 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: capital goods orders within that report, So a lot of 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: numbers this morning. We also had fifteen minutes ago the 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: ADP report a hundred and fifty six thousand jobs created 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: in April private sector jobs according to a DP, and 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: we'll see how that translates into what happens on Friday. 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Jason Schenker joins us now from Prestig's Economics is president 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: and chief economists, and Jason some mixed news this morning. 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how much weight you put on a DP, 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: but the trade balance obviously suggest that GDP was reported 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: too low the first time around, and it does look 38 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: like in the unit labor costs we may have a 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: little bit of price pressure. Well yeah, so I think 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: there are a couple of things that are you know, 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: if we're looking for the kernel of things that that 42 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: look right, we can look at that trade balance is 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: definitely better. And of course the dollar was weaker in March, 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: and it remains weaker, which after last week having closed 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: below arrange that it had been in since January two 46 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. So that weaker dollar is going to 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: be helpful there. But if we look at the jobs number, 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, my number for Friday is more than one 49 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: seventy five, and that's definitely a lot lower than the 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: consensus number, which is floating between two hundred UM and 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: a d P number doesn't surprise me a lot, because 52 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I think that we're going to see the labor market 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: start slowing. Here. There has been only one other time 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: in modern history where the nation's productivity, looking at a 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: presidential moving average of four years, has been this low. 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: This is the ugly double recession thirty five years ago 57 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: in the early nineties, and of course Paul Volker was 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: distracted there with modest inflation. Jason Schenker, what does it 59 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: mean that the sixteen quarter moving average ticked downwards with 60 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: the latest data? You know, it just it's a very 61 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: bad sign I think for the economy in general. I mean, 62 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: I think you know, I've got a book I published 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago called Recession Proof. I do 64 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: expect the US recession will start by the end of 65 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: the year. I think that there's a lot of economic 66 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: data it looks really bad. Productivity is just one of 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: many data points that don't look good right now. If 68 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: you look at industrial production year over year, it's been 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: negative for the last seven months. And you know, the 70 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: feed's been collecting that data since nineteen nineteen, and the 71 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: last time we weren't in a recession or recovering from one, 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: and the data was that bad since nine was never 73 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of data out there that doesn't 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: look very good. UM, rail trucking, oil and gas, manufacturing. UM. 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: You know, if you look, we also compile a proprietary 76 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: index material handling. You're seeing contractions and new orders and shipments, 77 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: and and that's for goods moving through the economy. For 78 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: for consumption, I think you're going to see a slowing 79 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: in the I s M non manufacturing index. I think 80 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: the I s M in the next couple of months 81 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: is going to go back below fifty. You know, I 82 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: think that there are a number of things. While the 83 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: trade number was a little better, I think productivity fills 84 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: in with this. You know, you're you're seeing slowing growth, 85 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: you're seeing outside risk. Well, the the labor numbers six, 86 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: if that were indeed the case still enough to push 87 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: unemployment lower, Well, that's right. And you know my unemployment 88 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: numbers for Friday is for eight, so um, so I 89 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: think the unemployment rate is likely to go lower on Friday. 90 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Right it's at five right now, so um. And that's true. 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: But but the problem is is that the mix of 92 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: jobs is shifting away from household formation jobs. You've had 93 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: a lot of losses and oil and gas and manufacturing jobs, 94 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: and so the jobs that you're, um, you know, you're 95 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: filling in with are are not sustainable I think for 96 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: new household formation. And I think that's one of the 97 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: reasons in March you saw housing starts, building permits, and 98 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: new home sales all go down, even though the back 99 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: end of the yield curve felt So you know, I 100 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: think that there are are you know, some problems there 101 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: where you're adding jobs, but they're not necessarily contributing you know, 102 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: the growth and I think that that's something that we're 103 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: seeing in the productivity. Jason, on the thirty seconds we 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: got left, We've got to get your back on for 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: a lot longer here. Will will your call of a 106 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: tepid economy be part of our presidential politics come the 107 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: fourth quarter? Absolutely? I have a book coming out in August, 108 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: Electing Recession will be out August twenty two. You know, 109 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I think that this is going to be a huge 110 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: situation that they're going to have to deal with. Um. 111 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: This slowing economy is um you know, not something that's 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: going to go away in coming months, and it's it 113 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: will absolutely be uh, you know, the front and center 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: for for the debate that we're going to see between 115 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Trump and Clinton. Jason Schenker with US as we look 116 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: at uh, interesting always controversial data, whether it was a 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: DP which moved the market, and certainly productivity maybe not 118 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: moving the market, but never those sobering to those looking 119 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: more to the long term. Jason Schenker with Prestige Economics, 120 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Future is negative thirteen, del futures negative ninety five. Mike, 121 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I really don't know what to make of the market 122 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: other than it's a jumble and a churn today as 123 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: we go? Is it a lot? It's a live show today. 124 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I guess we would have a life. It's a live 125 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: fed meeting coming up. Future is a negative. I have 126 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: not a check in with Michael R. Get the latest 127 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: world in national headlines by time, Thank you very much. 128 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: President Obama will be in Flint, Michigan later today concerning 129 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the city's led to contaminated water crisis. President Obama will 130 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: meet with an eight year old girl who wrote to 131 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: him and asked him to come to Flint. White House 132 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: spokesman Josh Ernest says the President will also go to 133 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: a food bank and meet with Michigan Governor Rick Snyder. 134 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: The President willna take part in a neighborhood roundtable discussion 135 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: where he will hear from Flint residents dealing firsthand with 136 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: the impact of the crisis. The President also deliver remarks 137 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: to a crowd about a thousand people at Northwestern High School, 138 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: which is located in predominantly African American North Flint. The 139 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: November presidential races in Sharper Foe kissed. Today, Republican front 140 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: runner Donald Trump called Ted Cruz a tough competitor. After 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: the Texas Senators has spended his campaign. Last night, Trump 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: won the Indiana primary for the Democrats. Bernie Sanders edgeddal 143 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in Indiana, but Clinton is far ahead and 144 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: the delicate count New York. Stonewall Inn is set to 145 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: be the first national monument for gay rights. President Obama 146 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: plans to approve the proposal, honoring the history of the 147 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: gay and lesbian community. 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We'll move on from Donald 155 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Trump to the Islanders, who had three differently last night. 156 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay scored late to tie and then again in overtime. 157 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Brian Boyle, the X Ranger and the Lightning won five 158 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: four for a two one series lead. I under coach 159 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: Jack Tap you want to felt Boyle should not have 160 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: been allowed on the ice after his earlier hit of 161 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: Thomas Hickey. It's a direct shot to the head. I mean, 162 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: probably gonna get suspended the game, That's what I mean, 163 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: like the whole game. It shouldn't come down to that. Um, 164 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: he's standing right there. I've watched the numerous times. Now. 165 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Those are the type of hits that we're trying to 166 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: eliminate from my game. So it's just too bad that 167 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: had been that way hit on. Hickey perhaps paid back 168 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: for his second period hit on Tampa's Jonathan Drew, and 169 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I had to leave the game. Gave five Friday at 170 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Barkley's NBA Playoffs on the win for Golden State even 171 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: without Steph Curry came from behind beat Portland one ninety 172 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: nine for two nothing lead. Miami won in overtime at 173 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: Toronto in Game one, Kyle Lowry had forced the ot 174 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: with a shot from mid court. Between the Medicine Yankees 175 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: last night only eight hits and one run. Mentantly had 176 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: one hit, three nothing lost to Atlanta. Matt Whistler beat 177 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: Matt Harvey, Chris Tillman beat Luis Severino in Baltimore, and 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: and the Yankees dropped to eight and sixteen after four 179 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: one losses. There worst starts with the Bloomberg NBC Sports Update. 180 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm John, John, thanks so much, greatly appreciate that sports report. 181 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: Future secret of thirteen JAFF futures. A negative eels come 182 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: in a little bit. One point eight zero is where 183 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: we were one point seven eight right now. Even the 184 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: two year yield coming in by a full basis point 185 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: point seven four six zero for those keeping score at home. 186 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Oil advances, dollar churning, yen churning, Euro strengthens throughout the 187 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: morning one zero eight right now. So looking at the data, 188 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call to Jumble again. I'm really focused on 189 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: the German two year in tenure, and they've been relatively 190 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: rock solid within global foreign exchange UH movement. Michael McKee 191 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: and Tom Keane Bloomberg Surveillance stay with us, counting you 192 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 1: down to the opening bell. 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