1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, single. 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: Best idea, tough decisions today. I had to coverage some great, 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: great conversations out there. We'll get to John Stolfas with 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: Oppenheimer Company in a moment with this call a seventy 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: one hundred standard Pors five hundred in a real optimistic tone. 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: What a joy to head Today'd have truly a legend. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Charles Clough Chuck Clow with his own shop up in Conquer, Massachusetts, 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: definitive with Marrileach for years and sometimes very cautious on 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: the market, but shockingly optimistic on the quality of profit 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: and the quality of cash flow. We looked at growth 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: and we looked at value with Chuck Clow. Does value 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: do well only when there's a bear market? Do you 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: need a bad market for value to do better than growth? 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: I would say no. I think there's a tendency to 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: move towards things that people think are value. I would say, 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: I would say the most important engine of a value 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: company is that it generates free cash flow and construct 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: to collapse the capitalization the most important thing. If it's 19 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: a mature industry, we would be generating cash flow because 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: you're not investing. If you're generating cash flow and can 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: move the capitalization to a point that it's still efficient, 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: that will make you money into value. 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: So you're worried about the accounting for all this capex 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: investment in AI if we have some form of write 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: down or depreciation of it in a normal sense. Do 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: you believe the math now like Paul and I believe 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: the math in February of two. 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: Thousand, Well, again, I think the point about my hyperscale 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: is they generate huge amounts of cash flow. The dot 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: com companies didn't with one exception, two exceptions. I was 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: Apple and Microsoft and Chuck Cloud there of. 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: His own shot clone company up in Conquer, Massachusetts. John 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: Stulphus was with us today much more into writing a 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: weekly note about where are we in the market? John 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Stulfus reaffirming optimism. 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: We've got earnings growth up eleven point seven percent on 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 4: back of eight point one percent revenue growth. You've got 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: tech twenty four percent growth year over year financial Q 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: three or year over year twenty three point nine, so 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: that's another twenty four piece. You've got materials double digit growth, 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: industrials double digit growth. This is looking pretty good. And 42 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: the single digits aren't bad. Uh, And you've only got 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: two sectors with negative growth, that's energy negative two point 44 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 4: two six percent on the screen and communication services eight 45 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: point one nine percent, and that some of that may 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: be the result of just incredible investment at a watershed 47 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: period related to AI technology. 48 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: John Sulfas he has been out only optimistic on the market, 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: even with some of the stresses over the last number 50 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: of years, and he reaffirmed that today I'm podcasts, We're 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: out of Apple word at Spotify on YouTube podcasts its 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: single best idea