Speaker 1: Hello. I'm Danielle Fischl, a TV director, a podcaster, a
Speaker 1: mom of two, and yet in my obituary it will
Speaker 1: start with the sentence better known as Topanga from the
Speaker 1: nineties sitcom Boy Meets World, and I am totally fine
Speaker 1: with that. That actually sounds nice. But maybe, just maybe,
Speaker 1: it will also include the title professional ballroom dancer, because
Speaker 1: right now I am part of season thirty four of
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, giving it my all, pushing through
Speaker 1: the soreness, constantly learning and finding time to record this
Speaker 1: year show keeping you all abreast on my progress and
Speaker 1: emotions while I try to do the unthinkable and win
Speaker 1: the Len Goodman Mirror Ball Trophy without any prior dance experience.
Speaker 1: And one of the goals of this podcast is to
Speaker 1: learn more by talking to pros, former contestants, and even
Speaker 1: some of my competition. Because I'm not satisfied with just
Speaker 1: dedicating twenty three hours of my data dancing, I need
Speaker 1: to make it twenty four. And now, thanks to the podcast,
Speaker 1: I have the honor of sitting down with a fan favorite,
Speaker 1: and by fan, I mean my husband Boy. He loves
Speaker 1: him some Brandon and coincidentally, so do I. He joined
Speaker 1: the show as a member of the troop back in
Speaker 1: season twenty four, and was promoted to pro in season
Speaker 1: twenty seven, and ever since he has been handed what
Speaker 1: many in the dance industry professionally call luck, constant perfect
Speaker 1: scores but doesn't win at all. Check inflammation of the
Speaker 1: epiglottis check a shock elimination on that and the same night,
Speaker 1: your partner is lowered in a construction vehicle in front
Speaker 1: of pyrotechnics while dancing to their own multi platinum forever
Speaker 1: viral song.
Speaker 2: Check.
Speaker 1: Yes, he has seen it all, but it would be
Speaker 1: difficult to find a member of the Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars universe that fans so collectively rally behind. And that's
Speaker 1: not just because of his elite talent in the ballroom.
Speaker 1: It is also because of his new social media presence,
Speaker 1: especially on TikTok, where he has showcased one of the
Speaker 1: show's most reliable senses of humor over the past few months.
Speaker 1: So today on Danielle with the Stars, I am thrilled
Speaker 1: to welcome a man who helped put the word pissed
Speaker 1: back in the collective pop culture universe and has wowed
Speaker 1: viewers year after year. It's my husband's favorite dancer not
Speaker 1: named Pasha. It's Brandon Armstrong.
Speaker 2: What an intro?
Speaker 1: What a welcome.
Speaker 2: Honestly, being your husband's favorite is more important to me
Speaker 2: than winning the Maryor I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna be honest, Mike, I will never forget what. First
Speaker 1: of all, you're the first couple of weeks you and
Speaker 1: Lauren had. All my husband could talk about was how
Speaker 1: amazing Lauren was.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's good. There's three short weeks, so I'm
Speaker 2: glad that your husband don't have to talk about it
Speaker 2: for long.
Speaker 1: I was just like he was like wow, Lauren and Brandon,
Speaker 1: but just like wow, Lauren and Brandon. Just the moment,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, did you see what happen? Did
Speaker 1: you did you see my dance? Did you see?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: He is just your biggest fan. He thinks you. I
Speaker 1: mean you are, You're spectacular.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you. For some reason, I feel
Speaker 2: like I am like the king of the husbands of
Speaker 2: the girls that watch Dancing with the Stars. Do you
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying? The boyfriends and like when we're
Speaker 2: on tour, it's always the dudes that come out with
Speaker 2: like the cowboy gear on that night, but they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: be good. To see you. I'm like, hey, you know what, brother, see.
Speaker 1: Seems a good place to be.
Speaker 2: I'll take it. Somebody's got to do it exactly.
Speaker 1: Love to Absolutely, that's a good spot to hold.
Speaker 2: I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to come out the gate swinging a little
Speaker 1: bit with my first question because I need your opinion
Speaker 1: on one of the hot button issues from this season,
Speaker 1: and that seems to be favoritism. Okay, As a pro
Speaker 1: who has had some tough breaks, whether it's Genie's injury
Speaker 1: or Lauren's shocking elimination or some controversial weeks with Chandler,
Speaker 1: what's your take on the debate that's been happening over
Speaker 1: the past few weeks regarding favoritism.
Speaker 2: What a big one.
Speaker 1: I know, Sorry, I.
Speaker 2: Really I appreciate the question, and I think you're going
Speaker 2: to be able to share some insight with this as
Speaker 2: well as someone who's on the show. Now you've seen
Speaker 2: it from the inside and from the outside, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the first thing that I would say is
Speaker 2: do I think that there is favoritism? Sure, Maybe favoritism
Speaker 2: in the sense that there's pros that people like more,
Speaker 2: that the fans relate to more, or celebrities that people
Speaker 2: relate to more. Do I also think that there's pros
Speaker 2: that are really good at what they do. Yes, So
Speaker 2: do you get what I'm trying to say? Sometimes it's like,
Speaker 2: does Lebron have favoritism in the NBA? Well, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: Lebron James. Do you understand what I'm saying it totally?
Speaker 2: Is it favoritism or is he creating an opportunity for himself?
Speaker 2: I think that there's that's a big conversation that I mean,
Speaker 2: we could spend a lot of time talking about. I
Speaker 2: think that at the end of the day, you could
Speaker 2: consider the show a game That's what it is. It's
Speaker 2: a game show, a reality strategy. It's a strategy. I
Speaker 2: think there's pros that are better at that strategy than others. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so I don't know if I would call it
Speaker 2: favoritism or what I call it a pro taking advantage
Speaker 2: of the opportunity that they're given.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, And when you know better, you do better.
Speaker 1: So when you've been on the show for a certain
Speaker 1: length of time and you've seen it and you've strategized,
Speaker 1: and you've been on multiple sides, and you can see
Speaker 1: it come and go, Yeah, you want to win, and
Speaker 1: so you do what you have to do. The other
Speaker 1: thing I think, I'll say, coming from the side of
Speaker 1: being on the show this season and from the celeb side,
Speaker 1: right from the beginning in the conversations about doing the show,
Speaker 1: when it comes to music selection, when it comes to
Speaker 1: dance styles, when it comes to name any part of
Speaker 1: the show. Over the course of the whole season, you
Speaker 1: will sometimes get exactly Glee what you wanted, and other
Speaker 1: weeks you will not. And you got to make it work,
Speaker 1: and you have to make it work. But the idea
Speaker 1: behind it is kind of it all evens out in
Speaker 1: the wash.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: If you don't make it very far into the season,
Speaker 1: you could maybe not ever have gotten what you wanted,
Speaker 1: or have ever gotten your big your your break, or
Speaker 1: and then maybe it does seem like, well you really
Speaker 1: got handed a.
Speaker 2: Correct I agree, but I think no, but I agree
Speaker 2: with you, and I also think, look, the pros are
Speaker 2: doing their best job to highlight a celebrity that has
Speaker 2: no dance experience, honestly has no clue what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: When it comes to any of this. You may you
Speaker 2: may come in and say I love the song Bojangle
Speaker 2: by shmo jangle, I did right, yes, And we're like
Speaker 2: and I think it'd be a great tango and I'm like, congratulations,
Speaker 2: it's nowhere near a tango song.
Speaker 1: And we will not be doing that.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, or you will because the show's like, look,
Speaker 2: she really loves it. They're really passionate about it. Can
Speaker 2: you make it fit? And then it's our responsibility. We're
Speaker 2: in the we're trying to change the b PM and
Speaker 2: we're trying to figure this out, trying fiel blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. I just think that people, I think online
Speaker 2: they love this conversation of like, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 2: saw this performance. It didn't do anything for me. Maybe
Speaker 2: it was the song. I'm sorry, I'm not the one
Speaker 2: sitting here bringing you this song, this tango song done
Speaker 2: to the pop song. My partner loved it. It was
Speaker 2: a mom and come on, you know, like obviously if
Speaker 2: it was up to us, you would see I would
Speaker 2: think a lot of decisions being made differently in some
Speaker 2: of that aspect, because but that's not the point. It's
Speaker 2: not Brandon with the Stars, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Or it's not it's not celebrity dancing with Brandon I
Speaker 2: wish some network picked that show up. They would be fantastic.
Speaker 1: I'll get behind you.
Speaker 2: I'm about to make you the richest woman on the world.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Because if it's if it's
Speaker 2: celebrity Dancing with Brandon, unbelievable, and that's a different one
Speaker 2: all twelve and you'll see me in different You know,
Speaker 2: that's not the point of the show. The point of
Speaker 2: the show is for you to come on express yourself.
Speaker 2: I dance, learn how to dance, develop how to dance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not responsible for all that, so I think little
Speaker 2: grace there.
Speaker 1: Yes. Also, the country is very vast and diverse. We
Speaker 1: all have lots of different opinions. And sometimes I'll see
Speaker 1: people online being like, I think they should have done
Speaker 1: this song, and I'll think, Okay, there would probably be
Speaker 1: a handful of people who would.
Speaker 2: Have also loved that handful of people are on the show.
Speaker 2: We'll do that song. We'll do that song for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's It is such an intricate game
Speaker 1: every week, from the costumes to the creative to the song,
Speaker 1: to things that have to fit the theme and the
Speaker 1: packages and the it's no, and you can't possibly know
Speaker 1: what it's like.
Speaker 2: No, I gotta comment. I love all you first of
Speaker 2: all on social media. I'm newly to the social media game,
Speaker 2: so I love you. I'm on my way. I love y'all.
Speaker 2: I got a comment, Brandon, your first two dances were
Speaker 2: the same. She was like, inframed the whole time. Well, sweetheart,
Speaker 2: I had a tango and a box drop. So maybe
Speaker 2: before you hit me up on that, look at it,
Speaker 2: because by definition, you've done a lot of inframe.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you're in frame.
Speaker 2: That's the point. And then if you don't do it,
Speaker 2: then I'm the one that has to stand in front
Speaker 2: of the judges and they get to say, hey, Brandon,
Speaker 2: if we didn't love your content here, she wasn't in
Speaker 2: frame enough. Oh I'm sorry. Susan in Connecticut told me,
Speaker 2: I gotta be out a frame more like, what do
Speaker 2: you want us to do? You're putting us between that is.
Speaker 1: That's a good point too, because we also got the
Speaker 1: similar comment from Carrie and that our dances look the
Speaker 1: same with the jive and our quick step.
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about that too, I'm very curious
Speaker 2: to know from your side of the table.
Speaker 1: I the second she said it, totally understood what she
Speaker 1: meant and appreciated it. And here's what I'll Here's what
Speaker 1: I'll say. The only dance we had, so we had
Speaker 1: a foxtrot we had and it was TikTok week So
Speaker 1: I foxtrot was Sabrina Carpenter man Child and then quickstep
Speaker 1: and jive similar. So those two dances themselves are kind
Speaker 1: of similar. Yes, But what's for sure been similar is
Speaker 1: this face has been cheesen since Week one when I
Speaker 1: had a tango that maybe would have been a little
Speaker 1: bit more serious. But my first Week one, I was
Speaker 1: on cloud nine, America was being introduced to me on
Speaker 1: this show. My anthem song was about having overcome breast
Speaker 1: cancer the year before. I was not Week one going
Speaker 1: to come out and be stone face chiller. In my tango,
Speaker 1: I danced a tango that was authentic to me and
Speaker 1: my story, which was important to me for people to see.
Speaker 2: Thousand percent?
Speaker 1: So is she right that for in four weeks she
Speaker 1: has not seen me do stare down the barrel, She
Speaker 1: hasn't seen me take a smile off my face. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I can see from a viewer or a judge perspective,
Speaker 1: for four weeks I'm not sure I felt a different
Speaker 1: side of you yet, so I totally understood you.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you this, I guess sometimes to me,
Speaker 2: it's like for the people at home. I think the
Speaker 2: people at home do reflect or start to mirror sometimes
Speaker 2: what they hear from the judges desk. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've hear risked this a little bit, and so
Speaker 2: I do think that it's important that the celebrity or
Speaker 2: maybe the pro has an opportunity to maybe clarify some
Speaker 2: things like that, because sometimes I just know from from experience, yep,
Speaker 2: that sometimes you know, let's say, let's say a judge says,
Speaker 2: you know what, I really liked it, But I feel
Speaker 2: I got this lot with Chandler.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we.
Speaker 2: Love you too. You guys are obviously a great dancer.
Speaker 2: She's a great dancer. She's doing blahlah blah blah. I
Speaker 2: feel like we're missing something. Okay, So then I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm missing something. You're like, Okay, what I'm missing
Speaker 2: is what that means?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: What? What what does that mean? Then we go home
Speaker 2: and then you read all these comments of people that
Speaker 2: really have no reason not to like Chandler, but now
Speaker 2: they have one reason, which is they're missing something.
Speaker 1: That's just something?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? You tell me what that means?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: Can she tell me what? So now nobody knows what
Speaker 2: this means. And then all season this poor girl Chandler
Speaker 2: is and you know how hard working like a dog.
Speaker 1: I cannot even tell like a dog.
Speaker 2: To chase this thing? That is?
Speaker 3: What? What?
Speaker 2: What do we write? And it's just out here and
Speaker 2: it just exists, and.
Speaker 1: There are so many things it could be. Is it passion?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it connection? Is it animation? What if
Speaker 1: even just one little clarifying thing could help you? Then go?
Speaker 1: Now I have a focus. Now we have something to
Speaker 1: legitimately work on. I know, and I did. I was
Speaker 1: really happy then that night that Pasha, because Pasha was
Speaker 1: very upset, of course, and he should be, rightfully. So
Speaker 1: it's his choreography and he it's his profession and he's
Speaker 1: incredible at it, and so I was very happy then that.
Speaker 1: Immediately we were the first press out the first press
Speaker 1: outlet we did, got to ask him directly, how did
Speaker 1: you feel about that? And he answered very honestly, and
Speaker 1: I loved it? And I loved it too. I loved
Speaker 1: it for him I loved that he got to say
Speaker 1: his piece, because that's the other side of it, is
Speaker 1: that they we get talked to and there really isn't
Speaker 1: the opportunity for us to say a response. It's like
Speaker 1: if someone if you you know, someone wrote something and
Speaker 1: a script and then you you put it out there
Speaker 1: and you got to note it and judge it. But
Speaker 1: they don't ever get to defend their right hand.
Speaker 2: They don't ever offend yourself.
Speaker 1: You can't ever.
Speaker 2: Another thing that happened last season not to be harpened
Speaker 2: on this last season. One of the judges I got
Speaker 2: in trouble for doing a lyft. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've seen.
Speaker 4: This whole I have, and there what was it like?
Speaker 4: This this much far? First of all, I lifted her
Speaker 4: off the ground. Okay a thousand percent. I lifted her
Speaker 4: off the ground. I have no beef with that. Okay
Speaker 4: the point, no issue with that, right. My issue was
Speaker 4: when she was like, oh, I warned you about this
Speaker 4: last week. I warned you about this last week. Okay,
Speaker 4: that hadn't happened. She had warned another individual another couple
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 2: So I all I said was me because because I
Speaker 2: knew it wasn't you. I hadn't been warned about that.
Speaker 2: I got slaughtered online for being cocky, or Brandon's too cocky,
Speaker 2: or he's too confident with Chandler he can't take criticism,
Speaker 2: or this what I'm like, y'all. First of all, I
Speaker 2: I mean, you've known me long. I'm like the least
Speaker 2: like like, I'm just here for the good time, trying
Speaker 2: to talk a little crap, enjoyed the show whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all I was saying was I was not the one
Speaker 2: that had been warned about this. I'm also not saying
Speaker 2: that I didn't lift I lifted her off the floor.
Speaker 2: I don't even care about the point whatever. Right for me,
Speaker 2: it's the principle.
Speaker 3: I just don't do you.
Speaker 2: Get what I'm trying to say, But I can't respond.
Speaker 2: If we respond in any type of way, posh or whatever,
Speaker 2: then it turns into this thing. I'm like, Guys, your.
Speaker 1: Response of me also probably wasn't premeditated, like I'm now, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't go like I'm going to respond to point
Speaker 1: out to her that that's wrong. It's like a wait
Speaker 1: did you? You also were like wait.
Speaker 2: When I don't remember that? And if I missed it, sorry,
Speaker 2: I didn't miss.
Speaker 1: It, right, you were right, it wasn't you. But that
Speaker 1: was so that even from that standpoint, it's like we're
Speaker 1: also stifling some of the natural reaction to things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough, tricky situation.
Speaker 1: The tricky situation after the dance to.
Speaker 2: Like that, that whole time of space is a weird.
Speaker 1: You're thirsty, you can bare we breathe.
Speaker 2: You're either ecstatic or you just.
Speaker 1: You just want to all. Oh my gosh, Yes, I know.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 1: There's way more fans now than it feels like ever before.
Speaker 1: New fans, young fans, passionate fans, passion dedicated fans. Sometimes
Speaker 1: people could say a bit of toxicity. Do you think
Speaker 1: overall this is not toxicity is a good thing, but
Speaker 1: that overall the new fan base, that in general, the
Speaker 1: swarm of people that have come to it is overall
Speaker 1: a good thing, and that that ends justify the means.
Speaker 2: A thousand percent. What's the saying, you can't don't cry
Speaker 2: when it floods when you prayed for rain?
Speaker 1: Wow, beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a huge component. I'm a huge advocate of
Speaker 2: somebody who I My livelihood is attached to the show.
Speaker 2: My lifestyle is attached to the show. My artistry is
Speaker 2: attached to the show. I am a kid from middle
Speaker 2: of nowhere, Utah, right middle of nowhere, Utah. And I'm
Speaker 2: going to be a thousand percent transparent, not even somebody
Speaker 2: who There's a million people who can dance like me.
Speaker 2: There's a million people. Everybody can dance now, everybody's talented,
Speaker 2: everybody's trained. There's a million dancers out there that would
Speaker 2: love to be in this situation. For me to sit
Speaker 2: here and be like, it's so toxic and they're killing right,
Speaker 2: that is the most just disingenuous, Like it's just not me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love the support. I love the opportunity to be
Speaker 2: able to perform and dance and create in front of
Speaker 2: all these people that get to watch it. Does that
Speaker 2: then come with people who don't like it? Absolutely? I
Speaker 2: can't cry for the flood. When I prayed for it
Speaker 2: and I prayed for an opportunity like.
Speaker 1: This, it's such a such a great attitude.
Speaker 2: I mean I prayed for I remember this. I remember
Speaker 2: I was twenty probably two, I had sixty six dollars
Speaker 2: to my name, was sleeping on a mattress on the
Speaker 2: floor in Las Vegas, dancing on the strip, dancing for
Speaker 2: not on the strip like a like, but like dancing
Speaker 2: in a show on the side. That sounded.
Speaker 1: Not a mattress in dancing on this.
Speaker 2: That seems like it was going down a different route.
Speaker 1: Thank you for clarifying very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that in a show professional show, nothing showing nothing.
Speaker 1: We just left Vegas out of this. We probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had all these.
Speaker 2: But also let the people think what they want to think.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was shaking.
Speaker 1: Somewhere, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I will be shaking it to make it holler. They'll
Speaker 2: play with me. So I was broke, figured it out,
Speaker 2: you know, that's what the stars called me. I never
Speaker 2: in a million years would have dreamed that. You'll fast
Speaker 2: forward seven or eight seasons later whatever. Now I'm here
Speaker 2: having this opportunity, sitting here doing this podcast. So I'm
Speaker 2: not going to complain about that. Do I think that
Speaker 2: there's some toxic nature that comes with it. Absolutely. I
Speaker 2: feel like we live in a country where you're allowed
Speaker 2: to have that opinion. Absolutely, so go ahead throw it
Speaker 2: out there. I mean, I would try to ask at
Speaker 2: least be some level of respect. Sometimes it's a little
Speaker 2: crazy to me when people are that's like me calling
Speaker 2: Einstein and being like, man, your math is wrong, Like
Speaker 2: you know what I meant? Sometimes sometimes like what I see,
Speaker 2: it's like, here's my opinion on these dances and based
Speaker 2: off of my experience, and they're like I took dance
Speaker 2: in third grade, right, Like sweetheart, that's like saying you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like gess me going up to
Speaker 2: Serena Williams and being like I played ping, Yeah, like
Speaker 2: relax a little bit, but I mean, you can say
Speaker 2: what you want.
Speaker 1: To say what.
Speaker 3: You want to say.
Speaker 1: One of the show's very positive elements that has come
Speaker 1: out this season especially is your online presence, specifically your tiktoks.
Speaker 1: When you were learning under Shirley Ballast, she didn't have
Speaker 1: any social media courses. So is this a new skill?
Speaker 1: How are you learning this new skill set? And you
Speaker 1: and why are you such a natural?
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I'm still the horse and buggy compared
Speaker 2: to the Ferrari of social media. Well, this is really
Speaker 2: what happens. So we hired these young bucks, young pros,
Speaker 2: the Ezra's, the Rileys. We got like these young people
Speaker 2: in and they came in and you would have thought
Speaker 2: like it was like we were learning how to make fire.
Speaker 2: Like we're on tour. I sincerely like we're like watching
Speaker 2: like you bang rock, like like this is the craziest thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And they're posting every day. We're seeing all this success.
Speaker 2: We're also seeing them being able to connect to an
Speaker 2: audience in just a way different way than we were
Speaker 2: able to. Like it used to be like you had
Speaker 2: to create the most tech you dance blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. Now it's like it's not that, it's not
Speaker 2: all that, it's it's that and everything else. And so
Speaker 2: for me, it's like lucky, I got married to a
Speaker 2: unbelievable girl who's also very talented with that. Oh I
Speaker 2: could talk about her for a millionaires, but she's so
Speaker 2: good at it, and so that helped me a lot.
Speaker 2: She also like gave me a little bit. We were
Speaker 2: just talking about you before we started rolling. I get
Speaker 2: nervous sometimes because I don't have the best filter, and
Speaker 2: it's gotten me in trouble in the past because I
Speaker 2: really genuinely am somebody who will just say what I think.
Speaker 2: And I mean, if you have a problem with that,
Speaker 2: we can discuss the problem. Like it's just it is
Speaker 2: what it is. Now I realize it's probably not the
Speaker 2: best way to go about life, and on social media
Speaker 2: it's definitely, yeah, not the best way. So I'm learning.
Speaker 2: But look, I like to talk a little crap, and
Speaker 2: I like to be funny, and I like to just
Speaker 2: say things how I like to say things. And I
Speaker 2: think it's been lucky that it's gotten on social media
Speaker 2: and people have enjoyed it. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, wait,
Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for a tall crash down right now.
Speaker 1: But your authenticity is what people are connecting with the
Speaker 1: fact you are so authentic, there is you. The good
Speaker 1: thing about not having a filter is that there's also
Speaker 1: not a filter. It's just you are there. You are
Speaker 1: who you are, warts and all. It is what it is,
Speaker 1: and people love that.
Speaker 2: I would hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, people resonate.
Speaker 2: So I would be really but heard. If they really
Speaker 2: hated me, I'd be like, Wow, that means I'm actually
Speaker 2: who I am and people actually hate me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: people don't like me. That would suck, you know, So
Speaker 2: at least a few people can crack a few jokes
Speaker 2: and make a few laughs.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: When you look at the roster of celebrities that you
Speaker 1: have had over the past eight seasons. It's really musical
Speaker 1: and you have partnered with a lot of contestants who
Speaker 1: might even be called ringers, Tanase, Jordan Sparks, Lely Pond's,
Speaker 1: Chandler Kenney, and Lauren Hereggi. But outside of Chandler, you
Speaker 1: have eluded the finals.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of prior dance experience debates also this season.
Speaker 1: What is your take on the prior dance experience of
Speaker 1: it all? And does musical experience translate to dancing as
Speaker 1: much as people think it does?
Speaker 2: No, so that I can answer as why on Rice, No,
Speaker 2: you could be the greatest singer songwriter the world has
Speaker 2: ever seen and not be able to dance a lick.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, that's my opinion. Yeah, people just think music, oh, musicality,
Speaker 1: You're going to be great at that.
Speaker 2: So Adele is a professional dancer, right like you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying that she can park and bark with
Speaker 2: the best of them all time. I don't know if
Speaker 2: she's going to come out here and hit a slick
Speaker 2: little chit and if she is tiger in it sweetheart
Speaker 2: come to Dance with the Stars. I need another one
Speaker 2: may take a dell for me to win the dang show,
Speaker 2: So come on through, you know, so that answer for me,
Speaker 2: No way. I don't think that that translates as far
Speaker 2: as past dance experience. This one's so tricky for me
Speaker 2: because I've had a few partners that I've had it.
Speaker 2: I think nowa day and age, I think it matters
Speaker 2: less than people would hope. I almost think it hurts
Speaker 2: you more. Case in point Alan and Alona Chandler and
Speaker 2: Brandon last year, right, I mean to me, that's case
Speaker 2: and point. Alona one of my favorite humans on the planet.
Speaker 2: I like everything that she stands for. I think she
Speaker 2: you want to talk about somebody who's authentic, talented, zero
Speaker 2: dance experience, not as good of a dancer as Chandler,
Speaker 2: of course, I mean, of course, that's like saying Chandler's
Speaker 2: as good of a rugby player as she is. That's
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's just call us bade is
Speaker 2: made here, right, they beat us. Alan and Elona beat
Speaker 2: Chandler and I So obviously, I think that's a case
Speaker 2: of point where it doesn't really matter as much as
Speaker 2: people want or want to think it does. I think
Speaker 2: it helps me. I think I'm able to create a
Speaker 2: lot of cool things totally. But I think if people
Speaker 2: don't relate to it, they don't relate to it. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I think this season, this season,
Speaker 2: we have competitors that have a lot of dance experience.
Speaker 2: We have one that just went home that had an
Speaker 2: extensive dance background. Huh she went home week three home
Speaker 2: four four four. Yeah, you're here. You don't have any No, So,
Speaker 2: who cares? Right? That's kind of my thing.
Speaker 1: Is I just exactly whether or not it makes you
Speaker 1: a better dancer cannot be argued. Of course, dance experience
Speaker 1: makes you a better dancer. Does it help you win
Speaker 1: the show?
Speaker 2: No? So, And that's genuinely in my opinion. No, I
Speaker 2: think you could look through all this past. You could
Speaker 2: look through since I've been on the show, how many
Speaker 2: of the best dancers have won the show? Very few times?
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll make the argument that Charlie Dmilion did. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: but hold on, she also has two hundred million followers
Speaker 2: on these platforms. She's also a sweetheart, also relatable.
Speaker 1: All those kind of the whole package.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, hold on, and I don't think
Speaker 2: they were winning it from day one. I think Mark
Speaker 2: worked really hard to develop something that was really good.
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's my opinion. I think that there's
Speaker 2: a lot of other things. I think this area is
Speaker 2: probably where I could have done better. Like if you
Speaker 2: gave me somebody like Tanashe now, I would do way
Speaker 2: better with her now than I did then, being completely
Speaker 2: authentic and just transparent. I didn't know how to play
Speaker 2: the game as well as I probably should have. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that being said, I hate the game because why
Speaker 2: can't a girl be young, confident, beautiful, a good dancer
Speaker 2: and go on Dancing with the Stars and show herself
Speaker 2: off and do well. Yeah, you know, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think the show would be really boring if you
Speaker 2: had a bunch of people that sucked. Not fair to say,
Speaker 2: but I see that a lot online. Like it's like, well,
Speaker 2: the point of the show is for people to develop
Speaker 2: and not to have any dance.
Speaker 1: Experience, is it? It is that if you.
Speaker 2: Just got on and saw people that sucked, Yep, would
Speaker 2: you like to watch that?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? No, I would not have watched.
Speaker 2: You have to have a mixture.
Speaker 1: Totally my opinion, totally and like you said, it is
Speaker 1: a competition, Well you didn't say this part it's a
Speaker 1: competition show it is. You can bring all kinds of
Speaker 1: things to a competition. Great personality, large fan base, incredible dancing, authenticity,
Speaker 1: good connection. We're all bringing underdog story the exactly you come.
Speaker 1: Every person is coming with their own suitcase of weapons
Speaker 1: to use in the competition, and not all the weapons
Speaker 1: are going to be the same, and that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you have a better or worse chance, just depend on
Speaker 1: how you use it.
Speaker 2: I think that's where my favoritism conversation comes back to,
Speaker 2: is just because one pro is better at utilizing those
Speaker 2: weapons doesn't necessarily do you understand what I'm trying to say, Like,
Speaker 2: just because he's able to unpack the suitcase, he or
Speaker 2: she is able to unpack the suitcase a little bit
Speaker 2: faster than maybe some of these other pros, and maybe
Speaker 2: that's a skill thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also looking at something that doesn't seem like the greatest weapon,
Speaker 1: but you know it is after having tons of and
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I'll take the nail file and everyone's
Speaker 1: like I don't want the nail file, but you know
Speaker 1: how great the nail file comes in handy by week
Speaker 1: seven and then you.
Speaker 2: Get beat by and people are like, oh.
Speaker 1: Oh that, but he knew the nail file.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes he did, Yes he did. And that's
Speaker 2: the point of him. Wouldn't try to be what's a
Speaker 2: pearl that knows that? Of course?
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. As someone who has had a lot of
Speaker 1: incredible partners, I am going to be very sad thinking
Speaker 1: again or talking about the fact that we were robbed
Speaker 1: of of you and Lauren. I wanted to see that
Speaker 1: full journey so bad? What was your partnership with her?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Because she is like, in my opinion, she is the
Speaker 1: epitome of like the one of the coolest people I've
Speaker 1: ever met.
Speaker 2: I agree with you one thousand percent. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get on my high horse here or whatever, but
Speaker 2: if we could be serious for two seconds, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: want to have a daughter someday, right, I want to
Speaker 2: have a son. I want to have a daughter someday.
Speaker 2: I would want my daughter to be beautiful, talented, to
Speaker 2: stand up for things that she thinks are right, to
Speaker 2: stand up for things that she thinks are wrong, yep, right,
Speaker 2: be outspoken on it, educated, pretty all those things. It
Speaker 2: is crazy to me that Lauren does those things and
Speaker 2: then gets dumped on by other women. That blows my mind, right,
Speaker 2: it blows my mind. What happened to this whole feminist
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five? Women don't have to they're not second class.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blahlah. All that sounds so good out of
Speaker 2: your mouth until it comes time to support a woman. Yeah,
Speaker 2: actually is that? Yeah, So that's on my little high
Speaker 2: horse defending Lauren. That's my little high horse of that.
Speaker 2: I think she is unbelievably talented, beautiful, stands up for
Speaker 2: the right things. Yeah, cools crap and unbelievable. Yep. So
Speaker 2: this whole like mean girl or doesn't want to be there,
Speaker 2: not everybody has to come out there and turn on
Speaker 2: that corny little light. Yeah, that's just not her style totally.
Speaker 2: And if that's what you associate being interested or uninterested
Speaker 2: or rude or this or whatever, that's not her fault. No,
Speaker 2: that's a thing that's not.
Speaker 1: A her thing exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean y'all at the house. That's a y'all thing,
Speaker 2: not a herd thing.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: She was to me the sweetest girl on the planet.
Speaker 2: So I think our relationship was like that. We had
Speaker 2: mad converse stations that were cool and beneficial to me
Speaker 2: outside of dancing, that helped me grow and learn and
Speaker 2: understand as an adult and as a person, you know,
Speaker 2: as a grown And then she worked her butt off.
Speaker 2: She was in there for every minute of the day,
Speaker 2: running it and videoing it and watching it. And I
Speaker 2: just have not enough good things could to say to
Speaker 2: justify I think she was the best, And I think
Speaker 2: that we did get robbed, not robbed of I'm not
Speaker 2: going to sit here and say that Laurena and I
Speaker 2: were going to be the best dancing couple in the
Speaker 2: entire competition, but you did get robbed of a journey
Speaker 2: she could have developed so much, so much. I think
Speaker 2: we did get robbed of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, we were all robbed of Lauren's journey,
Speaker 1: and it pains me. Is there anything you can share
Speaker 1: about something we you were really looking forward Is there
Speaker 1: a week you know, knowing the weeks, knowing some of
Speaker 1: the thoughts you had about choreography or song choices? Sure,
Speaker 1: what was something you were really looking forward to doing
Speaker 1: that we didn't get to see?
Speaker 3: Such?
Speaker 2: She was excited for both of us in our next
Speaker 2: two weeks. I was really excited for it. One particular
Speaker 2: was for dead ocation. Dedication tends to be pretty heavy
Speaker 2: as a whole, and I think some of the ones
Speaker 2: that stick out the best. Like I'll tell you one
Speaker 2: that stuck out the most for me this last dedication
Speaker 2: week out of everything, was a lane. And I know
Speaker 2: it was received weird and there's like some more little discord,
Speaker 2: yeah whatever, But for me, I'm like, well, hold on,
Speaker 2: it was positive, totally tons of dancing with the other person,
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying that, it was like
Speaker 2: a true like trio dance. Like I really appreciated that.
Speaker 2: I thought Alan did great.
Speaker 1: I think Alan did such a great job.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gangster.
Speaker 1: I really did like that too.
Speaker 2: I think Laurence would have been along that similar line.
Speaker 2: We were going to dedicate it. We're going to basically
Speaker 2: do like a daddy daughter salsa, so the immigrant family,
Speaker 2: the whole situation whatever. So we were going to dance
Speaker 2: to you know, the song Kim, but we were gonna
Speaker 2: do a salsa to that, like she was going to
Speaker 2: be at a salsa club and she was actually gonna
Speaker 2: sing the beginning of it like a cappella to her daddy,
Speaker 2: you know. And then make it up. Then I was
Speaker 2: gonna take her. Then she was gonna do it with
Speaker 2: a dad, and then we were gonna do it together.
Speaker 2: We're going to spin it out to the mom like
Speaker 2: we were gonna do this whole thing about that. I
Speaker 2: stik like in a time and place right now where
Speaker 2: even that conversation is to talk about immigrants, yea, and
Speaker 2: different families and different upbringings, it would have been dope.
Speaker 2: So that that sucks. Plus I love salsa.
Speaker 1: Everyone's all the proud.
Speaker 2: Lifted her and I would have not gotten trouble before.
Speaker 1: You lifts lifts, lifts.
Speaker 2: You can't look like me, Like you know I eat
Speaker 2: a cheeseburger every once in a while, Like you know
Speaker 2: that I didn't even get a chance to lift anybody
Speaker 2: this week, you know what I mean? Like, who am
Speaker 2: I Pasha? I ate a breakfast burrito bigger than Pasha
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 3: Danielle.
Speaker 2: Let's let's be honest. Though, I tell the folks at
Speaker 2: the house, I'm not a little dude.
Speaker 1: You're not You're not a little dude, which is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things about you. You are to live manly.
Speaker 1: If I didn't get to lift nobody, you didn't get
Speaker 1: to lift anybody.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I also talk about this a lot that, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how Danny and Pasha eat so much food,
Speaker 1: and Danny goes, yeah, but you eat a lot of
Speaker 1: food too, and I go, but nobody second guesses that,
Speaker 1: like they go, yeah, yeah, we believe it.
Speaker 5: Danielle eats, Danielle eats a lot of food. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: not them. You're like a kid too. She's out here
Speaker 5: with her and I don't I know, I know. I
Speaker 5: made a joke the other day. I was like, I
Speaker 5: look like I never skipped the gym, but I also
Speaker 5: never skip a cookie. And the only problem is everybody's
Speaker 5: like yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I mean don't. Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna drop the show up here.
Speaker 1: You go feel exactly the same way. I don't think
Speaker 1: people look at me and think I look out of shape,
Speaker 1: but they definitely they're No one's thinking, I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: in shape. But I also I will eat a cookie.
Speaker 1: I will never say no.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the thing I've learned this about La too.
Speaker 2: People be like, I eat cookies and then it's like
Speaker 2: zero sugar, no diet. This that I'm my girl.
Speaker 1: Noland does cookies come on, I.
Speaker 2: Smack a cookie, yeah, thank you them, and maybe a
Speaker 2: little ice cream on the side. Now I'll go for
Speaker 2: a run and lift a few weights. Sure, so don't
Speaker 2: try me, but I bring me a cookie too.
Speaker 1: Could not agree with you more. Wait, that I think
Speaker 1: is the secret to healthy, healthy and non disordered eating,
Speaker 1: because I've definitely struggled with disordered eating in my past,
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, listen, I food truly brings me
Speaker 1: joy and happiness, and I don't want to I don't
Speaker 1: want to remove it. I don't want to worry about it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to stress about it. So I'm just
Speaker 1: also going to stay active and be as because that's
Speaker 1: also brings me a lot of sarah toonin and joy,
Speaker 1: and then I get to have both of them, and
Speaker 1: now my life is filled with joy.
Speaker 2: And then everything were just always. I did start a
Speaker 2: new diet, though I have to talk ares like carnivore diet,
Speaker 2: which there's like a lot of these diets. I did
Speaker 2: a seafood diet.
Speaker 1: If I see food, you eat it, Okay, Wow, dad jokes.
Speaker 1: I'm not you're not even a dad yet, but we
Speaker 1: got the dad jokes. Pasha's really I was thinking Pasha
Speaker 1: was the king of dad jokes, but he just pulled out.
Speaker 1: Have you been in touch with Lawrence since the Elevationion
Speaker 1: for sure talked, Okay, I want to talk about Bridley
Speaker 1: because I know you love her. I love her too.
Speaker 1: She is the cutest and during my research I found
Speaker 1: out that you two met because you slid into her DMS.
Speaker 2: Is this true? My modern day?
Speaker 1: Will Meal was your first message to her?
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? And to this day, bust my butt
Speaker 2: over it because yeah, y'all get so. Look again, I
Speaker 2: don't want to do this whole thing. But I had
Speaker 2: a blue check mark on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Oh this was before you could just buy them. I know,
Speaker 1: Oh I get it.
Speaker 2: I know. I would have just bought the thing and
Speaker 2: kept them moving. You know, man, if I was single
Speaker 2: today's day, I'd buy a blue check mark and I'd
Speaker 2: just beat.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hey, what's up? When my two K followers
Speaker 2: and I'd be bougie boogie you're trying to slide through
Speaker 2: McDonald's because I'm boo broke as a joke, but come
Speaker 2: on through. I got the blue check mark fifteen dollars
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, I know.
Speaker 2: So I slid it in. I said, hey, what's up.
Speaker 2: She opens it up, leaves me on red. She will
Speaker 2: I'm looking right at you, Bridley. When you're reading this,
Speaker 2: click you'll say it was Oh, it was only for
Speaker 2: a few hours. It was for like two three days.
Speaker 1: She responsored me.
Speaker 2: She called her mother and was like, Yo, this kid.
Speaker 2: He says he's from Utah, says he's gonn dance with
Speaker 2: the stars. Her mom threw me the best alley op
Speaker 2: in the world. He's so cute. You should go out
Speaker 2: with him. He is on the show. So that's when
Speaker 2: I got the response back. Was when I got the
Speaker 2: co signed from the mother in law, got the co signed,
Speaker 2: took her the cheesecake factory. A lot of discords from that. Also,
Speaker 2: if that's a bad first date as well, I just
Speaker 2: wanted to be able to chit chat. Then I parked
Speaker 2: my car, chased the deer. I had to show I
Speaker 2: was athletic. I'm sorry, chased the deer. There was a
Speaker 2: deer on the side of the street. Parked my car,
Speaker 2: which at the time I had just bought a new little car.
Speaker 2: I had a little whip, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this was you were stunting a little.
Speaker 2: Bit of this got out the car, and I had
Speaker 2: to show her that I was an athlete. So I
Speaker 2: tried to chase this deer because it was giving us
Speaker 2: some eyes again Jim and cookies.
Speaker 1: You know, I had to show that I could still run, wow.
Speaker 2: Play some sports. So chase the deer down. Didn't catch
Speaker 2: the deer, but did catch phil were deer suplex. This
Speaker 2: thing just that I was the alpha dog in this
Speaker 2: whole area. Okay, never cut the deer, never even got
Speaker 2: close to catching the deer. She probably thought I was
Speaker 2: an absolute idiot. But at least the bar was set low.
Speaker 2: Then I could only go up from there, right, you know,
Speaker 2: you were like, But that always told me if I
Speaker 2: kept people laughing at their eye, people laugh with their eyeshut.
Speaker 2: So I look better when I make people laugh. So
Speaker 2: I've just been slinging jokes ever since. Then I'd be
Speaker 2: slinging See look at this right now. I could be
Speaker 2: Michael Michael B. Jordan's. I could be Michael B. Jordan's
Speaker 2: sticking across from you. You don't know. Then you open the eyes.
Speaker 2: It's Brandon, you know, so different stories. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: just sat in the DMS a few years later. Here.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get Briley's perspective on the chase
Speaker 1: of the deer moment.
Speaker 2: We'll see how accurate all that was coming out of
Speaker 2: my mouth. Who knows, but I'm sticking to that story.
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Okay, while the season is going on, I have to say,
Speaker 1: I am finding it impossible to believe that anyone gets
Speaker 1: to even see their left ones.
Speaker 2: I have, Well, now I have nothing, but.
Speaker 1: You work from home.
Speaker 2: Now, work from home, working from home, that home is
Speaker 2: seen a lot of work at home, seeing plenty of work.
Speaker 1: Well, we still see. You get to come out and dance.
Speaker 1: You get to choreograph some dances. You hosted the TikTok
Speaker 1: Live last week? Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 2: I did? And not only that, we had a lot
Speaker 2: of people watch. They got a lot of new followers.
Speaker 2: I like that stuff. I like unscripted again, being able
Speaker 2: to talk no filter. Yeah, gotta have a filter. With
Speaker 2: ABC and Disney, part's a little harder. It is a
Speaker 2: little harder, a little harder.
Speaker 1: Well, you were wonderful at it. You interviewed Wilfredell I
Speaker 1: did from Boy Meets World World. Yes, Uh, that was
Speaker 1: very fun. So while you and Briley are living out
Speaker 1: here in LA, what have become some of your go
Speaker 1: to favorite LA things to do?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: We eat for her. You would never tell her I
Speaker 1: find it.
Speaker 2: Where the food. I swear on my life. That girl
Speaker 2: is a street. This mic thing is thicker than my life.
Speaker 2: She is this, she's this big. But that girl really
Speaker 2: does eat. Okay, really does eat. And she's from Utah,
Speaker 2: like born and race from Utah, So she loves sugar.
Speaker 2: But I just God blessed. I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But we love to eat. I mean honestly, we like
Speaker 2: to do the social media stuff like we love it,
Speaker 2: Like we like to make videos and interact with people.
Speaker 2: We love this. She's like not in it at all
Speaker 2: to be like any type of thing besides it. She
Speaker 2: just enjoys doing and saw that I wasn't doing it,
Speaker 2: so she's like, let me make him do it, and
Speaker 2: let me help him do it, and then I may
Speaker 2: as well do it on myself, you know. So I
Speaker 2: don't know. She's the best.
Speaker 1: You guys picking a trick every week? I look forward
Speaker 1: to it every single week.
Speaker 2: Why except sometimes depending on the trick, sometimes I'm like
Speaker 2: last week was the first week that we didn't do
Speaker 2: it successfully, and it's because she had to lift me.
Speaker 2: And you want to talk about eating. I've been gone
Speaker 2: a week now. I snapped that little girl in.
Speaker 1: She was like, ah.
Speaker 2: She woke up the next day. B I said, girl,
Speaker 2: this right here way more than your entire existence. So
Speaker 2: relax a little bit. Yeah, pick some other tricks. So
Speaker 2: we go out to eat a lot, hang out with
Speaker 2: a lot of our friends, go to movies. Great, we're
Speaker 2: pretty We're a pretty basic couple.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna be here in La until you leave
Speaker 1: for tour for tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're actually going to Tokyo in between the
Speaker 2: season and tour. Have you been right?
Speaker 1: I've never been in the greatest place on time. I'm
Speaker 1: dying to go. So you're going in December?
Speaker 2: We go, November, we go, Thanks.
Speaker 1: We leave the gosh you leave right after this.
Speaker 2: Literally you could not I'm going to puff into dust and.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't believe I can't on the place.
Speaker 2: Our second time, we just went the summer too, but
Speaker 2: we loved it so much we had to go back.
Speaker 2: So we're going for eleven days and then we'll come
Speaker 2: back a little apartment, jump into rehearsal, pack up the apartment,
Speaker 2: drive back to Utah, unpack all of our stuff in
Speaker 2: a storage unit, and then just tumble weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys are so she's gonna be on
Speaker 1: tour the whole time.
Speaker 2: You know that's in conversation now. She's never has been,
Speaker 2: She's never come on tour the whole time. I wanted
Speaker 2: to come on tour and do like the tour social media,
Speaker 2: help some of the other pros with our social media.
Speaker 2: That's what I would love.
Speaker 1: I would love that needs your job, She needs a
Speaker 1: job on tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she also likes to be able to float around
Speaker 2: and do her own thing. So we'll see what that
Speaker 2: ends up with. But it's for the past. Ever since
Speaker 2: we've dated, I've left and been on tour for three
Speaker 2: or four months and she's just stayed wherever. We see
Speaker 2: each other maybe once or twice while I'm on tour.
Speaker 2: It's been brutal to talk about long distance. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I get it. I get the long distance. So it's long,
Speaker 2: but hopefully she can just come out with us, chill out. Yes,
Speaker 2: I don't know. We got to get a house, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got to do something. We got to grow some
Speaker 2: roots somewhere.
Speaker 1: You guys have one years old, you guys have a
Speaker 1: very exciting next year. I just I feel like twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six is going to be a very exciting please prosperous, healthy, joyful,
Speaker 1: root planting, family building. I just I really feel it.
Speaker 2: All the above.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how old are you when you hit your first
Speaker 1: thirty eight? So don't even get me started.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that is late early for yous?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Because she's twenty seven
Speaker 2: and she's having a heart attack and I'm like, maybe
Speaker 2: I think we're okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you No, Here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: feel like it was late, especially now that I'm forty
Speaker 1: four and I have a six year old and four
Speaker 1: year old boy who both of them are I mean,
Speaker 1: they wake up at six thirty in the morning and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I Am like, oh my gosh, we're
Speaker 1: already this energetic and it's all day and they're into
Speaker 1: you know, karate and into baseball and they like wrestling,
Speaker 1: and I'm an active boy mom, And I'm like, mommy
Speaker 1: is so old. But the truth is, I would whoever
Speaker 1: I would have had children with before I met my husband.
Speaker 1: I would it wouldn't it happened of course the way
Speaker 1: it's supposed to. But I think early thirties it's a
Speaker 1: good age, the perfect time.
Speaker 2: So she has what two three years and then we
Speaker 2: can start.
Speaker 1: Two three years, then start then start thinking, planning, doing
Speaker 1: the things you want to do. But I think it's
Speaker 1: the I think it's the perfect time. You've got the
Speaker 1: financial stability, you've already got the house, you figured out
Speaker 1: who the village is. You know, where are you going
Speaker 1: to live? Who's the village going to be? Because you
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a place.
Speaker 2: No, it's not easy.
Speaker 1: It's not easy.
Speaker 2: I mean in Utah by time you're nineteen, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: if you don't have seventeen kids and seventeen credit cards,
Speaker 2: I know you who are you? I mean?
Speaker 1: You know I have not talked about this on this
Speaker 1: show yet, but you know, my best friend growing up
Speaker 1: was Mormon. Her family, her dad was actually the bishop wow,
Speaker 1: And so they would let me. You know, Sundays were
Speaker 1: family days, so not days you get to hang out
Speaker 1: with friends. But I could hang out with them if
Speaker 1: I went to church with them, if you went to church.
Speaker 1: So I used to go to church, spend the whole day.
Speaker 1: I know I've been I've been around. I've been around.
Speaker 2: So you've seen the rabbit cages. There's a lot of babies,
Speaker 2: lots of them.
Speaker 1: And like you said, by nineteen years old, yeah, three
Speaker 1: four kids by mid twenties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in their head they're so grown. And now
Speaker 2: that I'm grown and kind of remove myself from from
Speaker 2: that lifestyle like that, that just even just being outside
Speaker 2: of phys physical space, Like looking back at it, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: my goodness, and no power, no knock to it. Like
Speaker 2: if that's what your goal and your intention of life
Speaker 2: is more, it's beautiful. I see all these beautiful families,
Speaker 2: like it's incredible. I can't think at thirty one having
Speaker 2: like ten kids right now, I'd be like, what now doing?
Speaker 2: I know they did it.
Speaker 1: Finally, I am asking everyone who comes on this Yere
Speaker 1: podcast if you could please give me one piece of
Speaker 1: advice for for the rest of my time on this show,
Speaker 1: so that I improve and then I have the best
Speaker 1: chances that I could have. What would your piece of
Speaker 1: advice for me be?
Speaker 2: Mine would be two part number one, just to give
Speaker 2: a shout out to my boy, you have Pasha the Goat,
Speaker 2: I know, one of the most intellectual, thought out planned
Speaker 2: professionals that I know. And to me, if you wanted
Speaker 2: to define the word professional, you look it up in
Speaker 2: the dictionary, you'll be Pasha on time, honest crap. Always
Speaker 2: just execute it, very high, consistent, correct, not like this,
Speaker 2: you know, always like this. So listen to him. Number
Speaker 2: one first and foremost. Number two, I would say, and
Speaker 2: I've talked about this lot with Chandler in my head,
Speaker 2: my mind, you're going to go very far, probably all
Speaker 2: the way, it would be my opinion. Okay, you're what
Speaker 2: the show is not a no no dance experience. You
Speaker 2: come in, you learn, you're good. You know, it's not
Speaker 2: like one of these people that you're like, they have
Speaker 2: no dance experience, but then they suck. You're kind of like,
Speaker 2: who cares? You know you you don't have any dance experience,
Speaker 2: but you're good.
Speaker 1: Wow, let's let's settle down on the Oh, you're good,
Speaker 1: you're getting better.
Speaker 2: Getting better, but also good. Like these routines that you're
Speaker 2: getting are full of content, they're hard. You're good. I
Speaker 2: would just remind you to make sure that you enjoy
Speaker 2: it because you're gonna wake up one day and it's
Speaker 2: going to be over, and you're going to be like, well,
Speaker 2: holy crap, I just did this for thirteen weeks. And
Speaker 2: then you're like I was so focused on the I
Speaker 2: know it's hard to enjoy it, so like, really really
Speaker 2: really really enjoyed it because I finished my freestyle last
Speaker 2: year and I was like, there's no way it's over.
Speaker 2: And now I'm back on the season. I already got eliminated.
Speaker 1: It's over again.
Speaker 2: I tell you what. When it rains, it rains, and
Speaker 2: when it pours, it pours, you know, like, so just
Speaker 2: enjoy it because it's it's so cool, and people love
Speaker 2: you online. Your reception has been so positive.
Speaker 1: I know you're the best. We love you. I love you,
Speaker 1: we love you, Brandon loves you. We all love you.
Speaker 2: I do love you. I wish you. I want to
Speaker 2: love me more. And I'm looking at you, Tiffany whoever,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you know. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 2: out some names. Lisa and if that's your name and
Speaker 2: you didn't vote, and you didn't vote.
Speaker 1: Could have saved I wish didn't. They used to give
Speaker 1: more like statistical things, like being that they were at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the leaderboard. They needed four million, like
Speaker 1: they did. I feel like, where did that go?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They also used to have judges saved with the judges
Speaker 2: at the very last. They saved me and Kenya a
Speaker 2: few times, so I'm always a fan of judges. I
Speaker 2: was out there on food stamps begging for these judges.
Speaker 2: SAMs I said, Barren, please just bring me off my
Speaker 2: pocket Rando. The next week their I was gone. I
Speaker 2: was begging for it. Ain't no shame of my name began.
Speaker 1: You are one of my favorite people to talk to
Speaker 1: here at the rehearsal space on our tape days. By
Speaker 1: the way, you're live with Mark and Joan. Please do
Speaker 1: please do more reverse.
Speaker 2: Just while we're on the topic, who was out there
Speaker 2: saying that Yan or Mark both those at the White
Speaker 2: Boys ain't got a BBL to save their life. You
Speaker 2: could combine both cheeks and it's my left one, So relax.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Does Mark not know what a BBL?
Speaker 2: I agree? Yan, listen, maybe English is the second language
Speaker 2: first language.
Speaker 3: Yan.
Speaker 2: You know you're my boy. I'm gonna let you off.
Speaker 3: Mark.
Speaker 2: Mark, you know what a BBL? Come on, you know
Speaker 2: what it meant. And you've been on the show with
Speaker 2: a lot of these women that be bouncing a BBL.
Speaker 2: So don't be sitting there. I didn't like you don't
Speaker 2: know what it is. And just for the record, I
Speaker 2: ain't got no BBL. That's homegrown cookies and cream. That's
Speaker 2: that's all it is. I just want the record to
Speaker 2: show that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know what, no one's ever accused me
Speaker 1: of having a BBL.
Speaker 2: I have a to get one together.
Speaker 1: I would love you.
Speaker 2: We could go around Mexico, though, you gotta go on
Speaker 2: a budget for me.
Speaker 1: I'm in as long as it's as real as your tattoo.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well the fake ba you know what they make. They
Speaker 1: make like spanks with pockets for Yeah, so let's just
Speaker 1: let's just give ourselves.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And Ben, i'd be working.
Speaker 2: I need a like, I need like some I wanted
Speaker 2: to look like a Diesel trucks walking through the door,
Speaker 2: but then I want to turn to the side and disappear.
Speaker 1: Do you also want to look cold?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would prefer a little nip in the air. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would take a little nip in the air is
Speaker 2: better than the flying saucer. So I'll take a little
Speaker 2: nip in the air. I think we could design this,
Speaker 2: but not like caughting a diamond now, just a little
Speaker 2: cold Ye, that's fair enough.
Speaker 1: I think we could design this and pitch this to skims.
Speaker 2: Anybody wants to skims, you know what.
Speaker 1: For men, but for me, they for our men.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about sexist. Yeah, because what y'all are being sexist?
Speaker 1: You know what? I'm not gonna argue with you. Absolutely no.
Speaker 1: We have the the amount of contraptions we have to
Speaker 1: suck things in, pull things up, smooth things out, harden
Speaker 1: some nips and you guys.
Speaker 2: And I'm expected to do that organically correct. But I
Speaker 2: can't enjoy my cookies and cream ice cream. I have to.
Speaker 2: I got to turn the A C down my electricity
Speaker 2: bill to get my nips. It was sixty six degrees
Speaker 2: in my apartment. No, that's not fair. And y'all are sexist.
Speaker 1: Yep, listen, let's design it. We've a couple, Okay. I'm
Speaker 1: going to produce your show Dancing Dancing with Celebrities.
Speaker 2: With the we will be caught Diamond's girl both ways,
Speaker 2: money and diamonds. There. I am with it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. I love you
Speaker 1: so much. I just so, I just appreciate you, and
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you came and spent your time
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: So gore to go make it all the way to
Speaker 2: the m for us. Ah. Yes, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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