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Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman coming up. We have a busy show today,

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Speaker 1: starting off with a franchise tag window tag. You're it.

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Speaker 1: take a look at that group a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: A lot of quarterback news or round the league as well.

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Speaker 1: In the last couple of hours we'll get to some

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Speaker 1: of the tweets there. Dan Edwards will join us in studio.

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Speaker 1: He's moved into two into a new role with the

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Speaker 1: And Jeff Lockman joins us now from his home studio

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Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville Logs. Good afternoon, and here we are

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Speaker 1: again another week of Jaguars Happy Hour. What's up? Uh?

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Speaker 1: First off, you can outied who who's that? Is that? Again?

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Speaker 1: On the intro, Joe Oh mentioned there's a new wrestler,

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Speaker 1: got you, I don't know. I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 1: he says he eats a lot, So I mean, what

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Speaker 1: what's the story he's he's like seven ft four fifty pounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's huge, yeah for real, like Andre the Giant. Yes,

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Speaker 1: had the same condition in fact, yes. Uh. By the way,

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Speaker 1: just perfect there, bovie or a TV series it's coming

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Speaker 1: out about Andrea. We're losing Jeff Flagman here. Will, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're cutting in and out a little bit with your logs.

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Speaker 1: Will trying to get back with you in just a

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Speaker 1: minute and continue our discussion. Of Andre the Giant, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's gonna continue a long way here. We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot coming up on the show, a lot

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Speaker 1: going on around the NFL today in quarterback land, and

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Speaker 1: it is it feels kind of nice as the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: to not have to worry about any of this stuff. Right,

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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about all these big name quarterbacks that don't

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Speaker 1: want to play for a certain team. Deshaun Watson apparently

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Speaker 1: met with the Texans head coach last Friday, according to

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Speaker 1: Dan Graziano of ESPN, and in that meeting, Graziano tweeted

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Speaker 1: that Watson reiterated he wants to be traded and told

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Speaker 1: Collie that he has no intention of playing for the Texans. Again,

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Speaker 1: there's no change from Watson's end. And then on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the country, there's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: in Seattle these days as well, with Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 1: his desire to move forward and move on from the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: A lot going on their logs, so a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of changes. But the all we do here

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville has put our feet up on this table,

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Speaker 1: kick back, relax, and you're ready for the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: And the number one overall pick. That's a pretty good

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Speaker 1: feeling not to have to worry about any of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: There's and we've lost logs against we we're losing logs

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Speaker 1: in and now we'll try to get that connection going again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson obviously once out. Russell Wilson apparently was upset

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Speaker 1: with the way a meeting went during last season and

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Speaker 1: his ideas of how the offense could be fixed for Seattle.

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Speaker 1: And apparently the report today was that he stormed out

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Speaker 1: all nice that the Jags don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: that number one pick is in hand and secure, and

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Speaker 1: one of the great quarterbacks in college football the last

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Speaker 1: three years is available, And and that's a good feeling

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Speaker 1: because it hasn't happened like that here in a long time.

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Speaker 1: The Jags have kind of been in that fray. They've

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Speaker 1: At least the beginning of the recovery will get underway,

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Speaker 1: ready for training camp. That's the good sign and the

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Speaker 1: good news for Trevor Lawrence. The franchise tag window is open.

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Speaker 1: It opened earlier this week. It's a two week window

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Speaker 1: and as we said on the Huddle Up podcast Wednesday

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Speaker 1: organization at least as Cam Robinson. The number for left

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Speaker 1: tackles is fourteen and a half million dollars. The idea

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Speaker 1: renegotiate with him next year and sign him to a

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Cam wouldn't mind that, being one of the

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Speaker 1: Everything else in the offensive line, as you heard Oban

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come down to a game of chicken.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Nicki Sirio and the Texans are

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Speaker 1: that's just too much capital to give up. So I

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Speaker 1: and you know we we lost you a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier in the show, so let's get back to our

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Speaker 1: quarterback discussion here. A lot of news today with the

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Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson and Russell Wilson both in the news. And

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Speaker 1: it's nice to not have to worry about that when

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Speaker 1: you have the number one pick in hand. Uh well,

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Speaker 1: I mean you say that, JP, but the reality is too,

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Speaker 1: is that if you're the Texans or if you're the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: even though your quarterback maybe a bit unhappy, you know

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Speaker 1: how good of an NFL quarterback both of those guys are.

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Speaker 1: So there's still a little bit of unknown will obviously

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Speaker 1: your draft pick Trevor Lawrence, which many people expect the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars to pick him, will he be a an exceptional

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback back like those two guys. So the one

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Speaker 1: thing that you although the you hope that he's a

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Speaker 1: happy quarterback and he's happy with Jacksonville, unlike with Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson and DeShawn Watson right now. I think one of

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Speaker 1: my point is you're not having to worry about trading

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Speaker 1: him thirty million dollars and do all that. Yet like that,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that because at least

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Speaker 1: you have this in hand. Yeah. I mean, look, everybody

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Speaker 1: is on his rookie deal like Patrick Mahomes has been,

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Speaker 1: even though Patrick Mahomes has since gotten an extension that's

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Speaker 1: going to tie him to the Chiefs for you know,

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Speaker 1: decades to come, it seems like. But uh yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt it. It's certainly nice to have kind of

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Speaker 1: the stability of knowing who your quarterback is going to

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Speaker 1: be or you expect your quarterback to be, you know.

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Speaker 1: But at the same token, uh, this year in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I think is unlike any other with what is going

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Speaker 1: to essentially be or appears to be a quarterback marrior

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Speaker 1: go around in the coming and the making, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks that are unhappy. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that are going to be changing teams, and

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Speaker 1: it's going to be more change, maybe than any other

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Speaker 1: year in NFL history. And you can essentially look at

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Speaker 1: every quarterback in the National Football League and you can

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Speaker 1: say that there's about seven or eight guys that are

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Speaker 1: that are truly great franchise guys that are going nowhere

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Speaker 1: there with their team. They're happy. But the rest of them,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could change. I mean, there's already been

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Speaker 1: a couple of trades involved with the quarterbacks JP as

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Speaker 1: we've seen, and I think that there's gonna be more coming.

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Speaker 1: And listen to Steve White's talk about the issue with

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I think Deshaun Watson is gonna get traded.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun Watson is not the type of person

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Speaker 1: that's gonna make a statement, and he doesn't make a

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Speaker 1: statement publicly, but he's made it privately obviously the Texans.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna make a statement and then go back

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Speaker 1: on his word. I mean, when when Deshaun Watson finally

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Speaker 1: says something, Deshaun Watson means it, and the Texans are

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Speaker 1: in such disarray, and the Texans are in such disarray

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Speaker 1: as far as they don't have cap room, they don't

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Speaker 1: have draft equity, and if they can trade a quarterback

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Speaker 1: and get a king's ransom, because Deshaun Watson will bring

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Speaker 1: a king's ransom to potentially improve multiple areas with your

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Speaker 1: with your team. The Texans would be fools not to

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Speaker 1: take that, and especially because of the possibility of the

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Speaker 1: prospect of having to play a discruntal quarterback that never works.

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Speaker 1: You can't. It's hard. You can't play with a quarterback

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Speaker 1: who doesn't want to play for you, So you might

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Speaker 1: as well cut bait, so to speak, and get whatever

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Speaker 1: you can get for him. And I'm sure they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot for him because it is. They don't

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Speaker 1: really they don't have draft equity, high draft equity at all.

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Speaker 1: They traded it all away. Remember they traded away. They

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Speaker 1: traded it away, and and I don't know, I would

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Speaker 1: assume that that's Bill O'Brien's fault because Bill O'Brien was

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Speaker 1: the de facto general manager. He was when he was

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Speaker 1: the head coach who was putting all these trades in place.

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Speaker 1: That's right. He was the guy and that was that

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Speaker 1: wasn't just an interim tag. He was he was everything

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Speaker 1: Texans and the g M. Bill O'Brien really hurt the

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Speaker 1: head coach, Bill O'Brien down and us it felt like

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Speaker 1: with all this moves JP. That is why they rarely

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Speaker 1: let because it takes a very unique talent because you know,

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Speaker 1: balance winning now for also being able to win in

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Speaker 1: the future. And coaches can be sometimes very shortsighted. They

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Speaker 1: want to trade the future way for this guy because

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Speaker 1: we're a player away and if we could get that player,

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Speaker 1: we can win. And and the general manager that has

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Speaker 1: typically a longer range view, so sometimes having the two

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Speaker 1: of them in one role doesn't work out. Now, there

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots, who was essentially the all powerful in

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Speaker 1: some people will say, well, he created a dynasty because

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Speaker 1: of Tom Brady, and I understand that logic as well,

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Speaker 1: have to be executed that Bill Belichick was able to

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Speaker 1: execute that. He's an extremely talented man and one of

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Speaker 1: the few that can handle the job of general manager

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans with their situation with ownership, with their

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Speaker 1: head coach, with their general manager, and with their life coach.

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Speaker 1: Uh boy, there's a lot of questions with them certainly

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Speaker 1: are Earlier in Jaguar's Happy Hour, we were discussing the

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Speaker 1: the most noteworthy name at least connected with that with

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars this offseason. And you know, Urban Meyers said

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Speaker 1: that they liked the offensive line as old as not

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Speaker 1: a tear down offensive line. Cam Robinson would be the piece.

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Speaker 1: Though You've got to figure out what exactly you want

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Speaker 1: to do the numbers fourteen and a half million dollars logs.

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Speaker 1: Is it worth that to let him play in this

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Speaker 1: offense for a season, See how he does if in

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Speaker 1: theory the games are a little closer than not behind

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Speaker 1: as much um and then if he plays well, then

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Speaker 1: extend him. Or do you just go ahead and move

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Speaker 1: let him go to free agency. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: great question, and I think if if you had and

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Speaker 1: obviously this is a decision that's going to be made

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Speaker 1: lot of different people. But I think if you asked

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Speaker 1: would probably be split. You would have some that thought, okay,

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Speaker 1: might say, you know, we'll keep him on board. Some

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Speaker 1: might say extend him to a long term contract. He's

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Speaker 1: but there's certainly gonna be room, so to speak, with

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Speaker 1: the salary cap that you have a little room to

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Speaker 1: say a let's be cautious here, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: use a tag. And what that tag is I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly what you could use franchise tag, and there's

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Speaker 1: different tags that you can use, but if you use

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Speaker 1: a tag, it essentially buys you another year of value

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Speaker 1: of evaluation. And I would totally be on board with

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Speaker 1: that because I think that Cam got better this past year,

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Speaker 1: and I think that, uh, he's got a great mental

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Speaker 1: makeup and he's a competitive guy. He's available, he's tough,

652
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Speaker 1: he's physical, there's a lot of things to like, but

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Speaker 1: you just got to see him get better. And so

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Speaker 1: buying the extra year using a tag or whatever tag

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Speaker 1: you choose to use, I think gives you a little

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Speaker 1: leeway and a little bit of time to make a

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Speaker 1: final decision down the road. I like that idea the best.

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Speaker 1: And it's a one year situation, so you know he'll

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Speaker 1: be locked in and ready to go, not that he

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Speaker 1: isn't anyway, but you know it's a contract year. Last

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Speaker 1: year and you could tell he came in in fantastic

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Speaker 1: of the gate last year. That's certainly be the case

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Speaker 1: in a one year situation. You go play well, then

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get the extension in the long deal. Well,

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Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. Uh, And that's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to be factored in because if you use the tag,

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Speaker 1: the amounts of the tag are factored off of last

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Speaker 1: year's cap number. Is that realistic to use? In some

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Speaker 1: may view that is not being realistic because since the

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Speaker 1: cap is dropping, then using the tag at a cost

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Speaker 1: of fourteen million dollars doesn't make economic sense because the

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Speaker 1: market may say that if he goes to free agency,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna garner fourteen million a year, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that that's what makes this year so

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Speaker 1: unique and on on so many different levels, not for

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Speaker 1: just Cam Robbinson, but for a lot of players around

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Speaker 1: the National Football League because when they finally compute the

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Speaker 1: number with what the cap is going to be, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams that are gonna be cutting players

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Speaker 1: to get under that number. And there's gonna be some

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Speaker 1: players that are going to be cut that are not

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Speaker 1: or that there's some defect or flaw in his physical

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Speaker 1: game or mental makeup or anything like that. It may

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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with that, but purely economics. And

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Speaker 1: so this year is unlike any other. And so there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. I think they're gonna factor into

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Speaker 1: the decision making of what you decide to do with

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Speaker 1: your own and what you decide to do in free agency.

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Speaker 1: And if you have the cap room, which the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are going to have the cap room, it's gonna be

693
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Speaker 1: a great opportunity in the marketplace because you are one

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Speaker 1: of the few teams in the National Football League that

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Speaker 1: are gonna have money, and the players that are gonna

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Speaker 1: be available aren't going to be players with issue necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are gonna be great players that the

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Speaker 1: team loves, but that these can't keep them. You can't

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Speaker 1: keep them at the number that they were at. And

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00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are gonna have some cap room to be

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Speaker 1: able to improve their team in a quick fashion unlike

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Speaker 1: any other year in the past. In my opinion. J. P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Logamans Jaguar is Happy Hour presented by the duvol

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Speaker 1: Motor Company. And we shift our focus now to the

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Speaker 1: tight end position. We touched on this in an earlier

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Speaker 1: podcast this week as well with Bucky Brooks. Why is

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Speaker 1: it so darned difficult to figure out the tight end position?

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Speaker 1: And it feels like that around the league, but certainly

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Speaker 1: here this has not been the easiest road. They've gone

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Speaker 1: the free agency rout a couple of times, Julius Thomas,

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Speaker 1: Austin's Verion Jenkins, those guys didn't work out. The draft

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Speaker 1: picks either have been banged up or haven't played, or

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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver hasn't played, so you haven't seen much out

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Speaker 1: of him. There was a high expectation for him the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years that just hasn't worked out. And

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Speaker 1: now news Tyler Eiffort that the Jags apparently are not

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Speaker 1: going to take the option according to the reports this

718
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Speaker 1: week on Eiffort, who was a free agency edition last year.

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Speaker 1: So the remaining tight ends on the roster here, you know,

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Speaker 1: looking at it on Jaguars dot Com right now on video.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Davis, who was a draft pick last year, two targets,

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Speaker 1: no catches. Effort was the leading tight end receiver three

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Speaker 1: nine yards a couple of touchdowns. Ben Ellefson had four targets,

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Speaker 1: one catch. O'Shaughnessy coming back from the knee issue, twenty

725
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Speaker 1: eight catches two hundred and sixty two yards. Josh Oliver

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Speaker 1: didn't play. Eric Sobert had four targets, so if you

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Speaker 1: take away effort, it's really you're rethinking this room. At

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Speaker 1: some point it feels like, well, yeah, possibly, And then

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Speaker 1: you know, you hope that Josh Oliver, which many people

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Speaker 1: would say, Josh, who who's at? Where'd he come from?

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Speaker 1: People probably forgot about him because he hasn't played Hartley

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Speaker 1: any football in the first two years of the National

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Speaker 1: Football Leagues since being a what was he a third

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Speaker 1: or fourth round draft pick? Third round pick, third round nineteen? Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I mean you hope he's able to stay healthy

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Speaker 1: and and maybe show you something there. But now the

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Speaker 1: reality is why is it so hard? And that's the

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Speaker 1: kind of the original question that you ask, why is

739
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Speaker 1: it so hard for teams to solve the tight end position? Well,

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Speaker 1: the fact is is that it's a it's a unique

741
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Speaker 1: position because you're trying to acquire somebody that has a

742
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Speaker 1: skill set that can do a lot of different things. One,

743
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Speaker 1: be a great receiver and be a matchup nightmare for

744
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators because they can block, and then also they

745
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Speaker 1: can catch like a wide receiver. So you want somebody

746
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Speaker 1: that can block alog alignment and can catch like a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. There in lies the issue with the matchup

748
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Speaker 1: problem with the tight end, and they just don't make

749
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Speaker 1: Kelsey's Travis Kelsey's every day. You know, he's a he's

750
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Speaker 1: a unique talent. He's one of the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: And so, first of all, it's hard to find the

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Speaker 1: the athletes that do that, and when you do find them,

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Speaker 1: they are certainly coveted. But I think this year you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to find some in free agency because

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Speaker 1: of the economic situation that I talked about earlier. The

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans have a tight end who who I talked

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Speaker 1: about early in the season in the matchup against the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Who I said that I thought he was

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Speaker 1: one of the best young tight ends in football. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and I think he is one of the best young

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Speaker 1: tight ends in football. And what is his name? JP,

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Speaker 1: the guy for the Tennessee John H. Smith. And he's

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Speaker 1: got speed, he's got blocking ability, he's tenacious. He had

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Speaker 1: some issues with injury, but when this guy is healthy,

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Speaker 1: he is fantastic. And if he's a guy that's available

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Speaker 1: in free agency for me, I'm taking a strong look

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Speaker 1: at him. And and Tyler Eiffort, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the option is for as far as the dollar amount.

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Speaker 1: But Tyler Eiffert I thought was good for the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: this past year. But essentially, Tyler Eiffert has a history

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Speaker 1: of injury. He's getting older. Now you need to find

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Speaker 1: somebody that you're tight end that's young, that can create

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Speaker 1: the matchup issues. Because the fact of the matter is

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Speaker 1: is that none of the tight ends that you had

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Speaker 1: on your roster on that graph. Think that you just showed,

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Speaker 1: none of those guys create a matchup issue for any

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in the National Football League. And that's what

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Speaker 1: you got to get out of the tight end position.

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Speaker 1: Somebody that causes a matchup issue. Let's come back in

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851
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Speaker 1: when when I stopped playing for the Jaguars, which my

852
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: last season was, and then in ninety nine, I started

853
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: working with Dan because I started doing some of the

854
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: television stuff for the Jaguars and also the preseason television games.

855
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: And then that obviously changed later on and that I

856
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: started adding more responsibility more radio shows and eventually moved

857
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: into the the broadcast booth and two thousand and three,

858
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: and and Dan has been my boss every year, so

859
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: essentially from until yesterday when it was announced that he

860
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: was moving, he's been my boss. And he's been awesome

861
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: and uh and and I feel lucky to be able

862
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: to call him a great friend and on more importantly

863
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: than that, he's a great guy, and he's a great man,

864
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: and he has raised wonderful kids and they have all

865
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: become great assets to the Jacksonville community and other communities

866
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: that they choose to live in now. So Jacksonville has

867
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: been very fortunate to have a man of the stature

868
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: of Dan Edwards and uh and glad to say that

869
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: or here that he's gonna be transitioning to a new

870
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: role that will even create a lot more excitement with

871
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: the veterans and and the alumni of the Jaguars and

872
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: also interact with the community even more. Man, I can't

873
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: wait for all that, no doubt. And it's great to

874
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: hear from him and see him on on our cameras

875
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: here and they were right around the office from each other.

876
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: But it's not with the COVID this year. I didn't

877
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: see a lot of them, and then you know, that's

878
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: just that that's the way it was this year. But

879
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot a lot more

880
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Dan Edwards out and about in the community, doing speaking

881
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: events and representing the team and doing a lot of things.

882
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: So that's good news for the Jacksonville Jaguars for sure.

883
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Amy Palsick, he takes over as the vice president of Communications.

884
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: She will report directly to urban Meyer and Trent and Bulky,

885
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: and she is in the building. She arrived yesterday and

886
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: is here and is on duty. So at some point

887
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: I think maybe we'll reach out and try to have

888
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: her on here as well, just to introduce her to

889
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville market. She's been in this division obviously for

890
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: a long time with Houston Texans and did a fantastic

891
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: job there with that. They won the Roselle Award back

892
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: in seventeen under her watch, and she was really responsible.

893
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: J J. Watt was responsible. But she had a huge

894
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: hand in the Hurricane Harvey efforts that j. J. Watt

895
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: put together after that storm down in Houston, and she

896
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: was run out of the Extan's organization part of that.

897
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: So much change that's happened over there in the last

898
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: few months and pretty much unanimous. You're being very kind

899
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: right there by the way, you're being very kind. You're

900
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: being very kind about it. You know, she was run

901
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: out of Houston essentially the the clown show that Houston

902
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: has become fired Amy and made the statement that essentially

903
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: that her values, you know, etcetera. Doesn't match with the

904
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: Texans and they're going in a different direction. It just

905
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: goes to show you how the Texans have become so

906
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: dysfunctional when you let good people go, I mean, you

907
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: go from winning the award and one of the best

908
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: pr staffs in the national Football League to be an ousted.

909
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: How does that happen? Uh, if you really knew the details. Yeah,

910
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: their loss is the Jaguars game though, and pretty much

911
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: unanimously around the NFL media landscape, this is is being

912
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: praised and she has a track record of success. So

913
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: that's good news for the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're looking forward

914
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: to working with her. Let's go around the National Football

915
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: League and yes, there have been some changes today in

916
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. Defensive tackle Darrell Casey released by the Broncos.

917
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: That freeds up twelve million dollars against the cap, but

918
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: the Broncos in one. He's thirty one years old. We

919
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: know what he's done to this franchise when he was

920
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: with the Titans. Would you take a shot at him? Well,

921
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: I think he wanted want to find out where he's

922
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: at and how his health is. Because when Darrell Casey

923
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: has played the Jaguars over the years, he is is

924
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: a donminant force and is one of those quick twitch

925
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: guys at the three technique defensive tackle. The Jaguars certainly

926
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: have a need at defensive tackle. So you would absolutely

927
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: kick the tires and talked to Darrell Casey and his

928
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: people to see where he's at health wise, because he is.

929
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: He's a good football player. JP. He can he can

930
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: rush the passer from the inside that I'd just like

931
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: to know more about his health. Adam Humphries waived by

932
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans the wide receiver after two seasons with

933
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: the club. There he had two years left on his

934
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: four year deal and it clears up about four and

935
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: at four and a half a million dollars of cap space,

936
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: but some dead money left in that as well. Three

937
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: catches two or twenty yards two touchdowns last year, but

938
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: he was on the COVID list off and on all

939
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: season long. What do you think about Adam humphreyes Well,

940
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a perfect example of what

941
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna see JP from other teams. You're gonna see

942
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: some really good football players that are available. And the

943
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: reality is is that a lot of teams are are

944
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: looking at players not from the standpoint of productivity, but

945
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: they're looking at him strictly as a numbers game and

946
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: that they've got to find a way to get under

947
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: the cap, and they're looking at the quickest way that

948
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: they can do that in the least painful way. That

949
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: they can do that. So players that have um that

950
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: represent a big savings from a cap standpoint, that don't

951
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: aren't gonna represent or don't have a lot of dead

952
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: money to hold against the team into the future, their

953
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: candidates to be cut. And it has nothing to do

954
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: with the quality of the player, just has to do

955
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: with their number that's associated with the salary cap. So

956
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: Adam Humphreys is a guy that you're absolutely gonna have

957
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: a conversation with. And there's a lot of other players

958
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: around the league that they are going to be in

959
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: the same position that the Jaguars are going to have

960
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk with. And a good thing is too.

961
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: I think in this climate, in this market, you're gonna

962
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: end up getting some really good deals in this market.

963
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: Whenever they figure out what the cap number is actually

964
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: going to be, I think a lot of these deals

965
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: will start getting done and moving ahead. A lot just

966
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: don't really know the full playing field right now in

967
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: terms of numbers. John Lands to forty liners, GM has

968
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: no doubt. He says that Jimmy garv little for the

969
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: forty niners next year, well he better start for the

970
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: forty oiners because when he does they're really good logs

971
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: there twenty four and nine including postseason games when Garoppolo starts,

972
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: and there's seven and nineteen when he doesn't start since

973
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: he's been traded over from New England, he better be there.

974
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean, look, what else is John Lynch is gonna say.

975
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna say that because right now that

976
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is his quarterback. And if all of a sudden,

977
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna not be his quarterback, then John

978
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: Lynch is gonna sing no different two. And it's kind

979
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: of similar to what the Rams situation is, and that

980
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh who was just gushing about, you know, coaching

981
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and being hitched together with Jared Goff for

982
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: the for the future, and then boom, all of a sudden,

983
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: you have a situation that's soured for Jared Golf with

984
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: the Rams, and then they get shipped off Matthew Stafford,

985
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: and that trade is gonna get executed when the league

986
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: calendar year star. So things can change rather quickly. And

987
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't put too much into what a general manager

988
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: might say about his quarterback right now, because if all

989
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, John Lynch can gain a Deshaun Watson

990
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: and have it not cost him a whole bunch of

991
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: money and ship Jimmy Garoppolo off to the Houston Texans.

992
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: You know what, John Lytz is gonna be saying. You

993
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: know what, it was just too good to pass up.

994
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: We you know, we couldn't turn it down to be

995
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: able to get a player of the statue of Deshaun Watson.

996
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: And for Jimmy Garoppolo goes, he's gonna be history, you know. So,

997
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: So hang tight on what all these guys are saying

998
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: right now, because when the business starts, the business starts.

999
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: J J. Watt still a free agent, and there's a

1000
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: report today that he has multiple contract offers. Diana Rossini

1001
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: of ESPN dot Com says that the most lucrative offer

1002
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: of what has on the table is believed to be

1003
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: worth between fifteen and sixteen million dollars. Well, it's interesting

1004
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: since there's no salary cap number yet. I'm curious if

1005
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: that will be the real deal and what it will

1006
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: be once it comes time to sign that piece of paper. Yeah,

1007
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: that sounds a little bit high to me. I think

1008
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: it maybe fifteen or sixteen million. If he reaches a

1009
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: lot of incentives. But in my opinion, J. J. Watt

1010
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: is not worth fifteen or sixteen million dollars anymore if

1011
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: you look at his level of play the last couple

1012
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: of years. So, but I know that he can provide

1013
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: a great positive force for football team. But for me,

1014
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: if if I'm making the call, I don't think I'm

1015
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: getting fifteen million dollars worth out of J. J. Watt. So,

1016
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: and I think you know a lot of things when

1017
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: you when you hear a report like that JP, A

1018
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: lot of that is agent driven, where the agent is

1019
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: putting that information out to try to push the number

1020
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: up by all the other teams that are interested in

1021
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: his services. Oh, I knows that Jeff Logaman was about

1022
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: twenty years too late or so. It's a free agency

1023
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: five years or so. Everybody everybody's saying that JP the guy.

1024
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: The guys that were in the league when when I

1025
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: came in, we're saying the same thing, just like I

1026
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: was saying the same thing the guys that came in

1027
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: the league as I was leaving, like a Fred Taylor.

1028
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: And the amount of money that those guys could make,

1029
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: and you know, the the the economics of the NFL

1030
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: has just grown exponentially, it seems like every year, and

1031
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: so the guys of today might be saying the same

1032
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: thing about the guys that entered the league, and you know,

1033
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's that's just the way the league is.

1034
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Growth has been and has been tremendous. So there you

1035
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: haven't our look around the National Football League. And as

1036
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: we said the Jags broadcast, we can review podcast coming

1037
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: up tomorrow and then uh, maybe a relatively quiet weekend,

1038
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: and then we're on the next week and the the

1039
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: next week of the franchise tag window, and then we're

1040
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: coming up on a couple of weeks away from free agency.

1041
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: So here we go. This is really the calm before

1042
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: the storm logs of the off season really really beginning. Yeah,

1043
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: and then uh, and once you get to the start

1044
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: of the league year, free agency and then the build

1045
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: up to the draft, things kind of get get fast

1046
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: and hot. But I think it's also going to be

1047
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: interesting to see what the league ends up doing about

1048
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: the off season. Is it gonna be like it was

1049
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: last year where there really wasn't an off season, or

1050
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: are they going to have things that are all strictly virtual,

1051
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: or are they going to try to do some type

1052
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: of mini camp where they can gather in an institute

1053
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: a short period of testing to keep players safe. For

1054
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: a mini camp. You know it's gonna be interesting exactly

1055
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: to see what happens. But the amazing thing is the

1056
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: league adjusted last year and proved that it can It

1057
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: can make things happen without having all of those things.

1058
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: But for the Jaguars sake, with a rookie quarterback coming in,

1059
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: you hope that you can have some of all season

1060
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: that is able to happen post draft for a young

1061
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: quarterback that's coming into the National Football League. That's where

1062
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: it's very difficult for teams that that have a lot

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Speaker 1: of youth, and then Jaguars are gonna have a lot

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Speaker 1: of youth, and it certainly didn't help them out last

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Speaker 1: pay any dividends for the season. So you would like

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Speaker 1: to have as many opportunities at getting better prior to

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Speaker 1: the start of training camp and the season for a

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Speaker 1: young roster and a first time NFL head coach. In

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer lugs Well said, have a great to you

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Speaker 1: again next week or thanks to Dan Edwards. I'm JP

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Speaker 1: Shadrick and this is Jaguars Happy Hour of the Jaguars

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