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Speaker 1: everybody need to eat, eat a lot, eat a lot,

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Speaker 1: and eat a lot. Why why are you not eating

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Speaker 1: And so when I look at your site, I see

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Speaker 1: the range, which means that anybody who comes to your

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Speaker 1: And I think that's very key to what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to say, is that you're speaking. There's no different than

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Speaker 1: no Essence took the music out of Essence Music Festival

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Speaker 1: because I recommended it. So I'm a guy that's telling

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Speaker 1: you I know what I'm talking about. I created the

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty thousand people to the city of Lanta,

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Speaker 1: When I tell you this, you have an emotional event.

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Speaker 1: the fact that so many people don't know and once

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Speaker 1: that's so relatable. Can I bring my daughter? Can I

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Speaker 1: I'm sure coming to your event the daughter of the

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Speaker 1: Let's just step back here. Okay, this ain't my vision.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think of this, this great idea. You're You're

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