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Speaker 1: Newi Scrugs. Here we are on a Monday. It is

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Speaker 1: free agent Monday, all right. NFL teams come Wednesday because signs.

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Speaker 1: They can start signing free agents today. You can basically

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Speaker 1: start your little backdoor conversations with pay and uh the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I mean here it is March Madness, but the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the blue pushed March maddens. We want some spotlight here,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, I want some spotlight here. He's basketball guys.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have to wait a little bit. But by the way, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the NCAA Tournament isn't for work this weekend. How about TCU? Uh? Well,

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Speaker 1: TCU is the host, but they're having it at Dicky's Arena. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Second Bears, so yes, Baylor, Baylor there, Baylor number one seed.

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Speaker 1: They'll be there. North Carolina tar Hill's gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: Hubert Davis from Dallas Maverick. He's the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Carolina tar Hill. So um, yeah, yeah, so there

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Speaker 1: any that you know how Jerry rold usually does, like

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Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen, there's none of they an't getting it

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Speaker 1: this year. No no no, no, no, no, no spot. This

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Speaker 1: is all dickies. So so yeah, what's see to penberget Um?

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Speaker 1: You know what? We are a four seed and we

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Speaker 1: won our tournament game of Division two. All right, the

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Speaker 1: John Toledo, I think Toledo's in it, so so so,

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Speaker 1: I think Toledo's in it. Man. We won our conference.

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Speaker 1: We won conference. Carolina's crews, you got any more? We

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Speaker 1: got any more jokes? SHOT's been fired early early on

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Speaker 1: the show Man, right on down. That's right. The Braves win, Son,

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Speaker 1: Braves win. Be flagger. We're moving on in the tournament. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let us dive into many Dallas Cowboys topics. He is

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Speaker 1: Barry Church to Toledo Rocket joining us filling in for

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Speaker 1: Danny McCrae. Is Anthony Spencer for a first round draft

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Speaker 1: pick with the Dallas Cowboys from Purdue boiler Maker. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: if your basketball team can finally make the Final four,

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Speaker 1: winning championship, man, we'll see, man, they got they got

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Speaker 1: some players out there. We'll see what they can do

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Speaker 1: in the tournament. All right, I'm new, I'm new. He scruggs,

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Speaker 1: just merely new. He scrugs. Here. These gentlemen here, they're

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Speaker 1: the players. So they're gonna bring you their expertise here

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Speaker 1: for an hour. And we got side show Chris being

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Speaker 1: by the way, I lied. Uh, it's all good. Football, Rockers, rockers,

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Speaker 1: you guys, you damn't see me. It's all good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what lots to get to? Why don't we just start

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Speaker 1: with the wide receivers. Okay, Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper is

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Speaker 1: going to be traded. Will not happen till later this

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Speaker 1: week officially, but he's going to Cleveland. So it's for

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Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. The Browns and the Cowboys swap

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Speaker 1: six round picks. Here, Coop do twenty million dollars. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: didn't want to pay it. They saved sixteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: under the cap. So gentleman thumbs upper thumbs down. I'm

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Speaker 1: make it. That's sim before you thumbs upper thumbs down

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Speaker 1: on this trade them to start with you, Barry Church

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Speaker 1: for me with the Cowboys situation. I'm gonna say it's

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Speaker 1: a tough one for me because you know, you let

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Speaker 1: I still believe he has number one left in the tank,

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Speaker 1: So the time will tell it will either make make

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Speaker 1: a lot of bread. And when you say a lot

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Speaker 1: bringing you a million dollars a game in production? See,

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Speaker 1: I can't put it all on a Mark Cooper for

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Speaker 1: That was it. So we've seen an offensive coordinator scheme

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Speaker 1: Like he's been through it, He's been that one, number

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. And clearly the owner

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Speaker 1: put the bulls eye on the head coach get done

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Speaker 1: this year. And that's another of the how you can

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Speaker 1: you put all this pressure on McCarthy. It didn't take

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Speaker 1: away his number one receiver, you know, but what but

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Speaker 1: what did he do with the number one receiver last year?

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Speaker 1: That's true because he wasn't They didn't let him call

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Speaker 1: the place. But but still still overall, do you feel

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Speaker 1: like Amark Cooper was used properly? How many times did

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Speaker 1: we do the players show? Okay, okay, okay, So so

433
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Speaker 1: how do you go in there and beat the table

434
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Speaker 1: down and say, hey, man, I need to do for

435
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Speaker 1: one point three million a game, not really using it,

436
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Speaker 1: you know, not getting up de hoop numbers. You know,

437
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Speaker 1: you're not Jordan Jefferson in Minnesota. I mean you know.

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Speaker 1: So so you start to look at this and it

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Speaker 1: gets tough. But this is the National Football League, man,

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Speaker 1: you're got you know, he's not the only coach going

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Speaker 1: in the next year that's gonna hate feel it heat,

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Speaker 1: but do something. That's why if I'm Mike McCarthy, I'm

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Speaker 1: going into this thing. If I'm going down, I'm going

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Speaker 1: down swinging. I'm calling to play. Give me the play

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Speaker 1: call sheet. You know what I need to, I need

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Speaker 1: all that I need all give it to me. I'm

447
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Speaker 1: not gonna go down for somebody else. You know, you

448
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Speaker 1: got to. And I feel like that's the hardest part

449
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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys with Jerry Jones and the family, just

450
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Speaker 1: because they are like their business. It's a business. They

451
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Speaker 1: make money and each year the Cowboys make more money

452
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Speaker 1: than anybody anybody, and that's there and it comes from

453
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Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, I mean, that's that's how that's how

454
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Speaker 1: we're slated. We're here to make the money. Is it's

455
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Speaker 1: really about to win in the games or is it

456
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Speaker 1: about making more money? So when you do it like that,

457
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Speaker 1: it's like you have to give the give the coaches

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Speaker 1: and the people the power to make those plays, make

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Speaker 1: those decisions, put their ownership on them too, so they

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Speaker 1: can that you can fire them and then get rid

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Speaker 1: of them. And if they're not doing what they need

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Speaker 1: to be doing what I mean. Okay, Now, now I've

463
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Speaker 1: heard this same thing when I've done interviews across the country.

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Speaker 1: I'll come back into this, Anthony. Jerry Jones gave Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy a heck of a roster last year. You're in

466
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Speaker 1: a division that was not good that you swept. Okay

467
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Speaker 1: swept the division. Okay score average forty points against NFC's teams,

468
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Speaker 1: twenty six points against anybody else. You got a home game,

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Speaker 1: you're a spot against the Niners who walk out with

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Speaker 1: a huge boom box in your building to go take

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Speaker 1: the field. You put your office out on the field.

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Speaker 1: Niners smacked that down to three plays. They go take

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Speaker 1: the football on office and they go right down in

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Speaker 1: the mouth with a quarterback with a bad thumb. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got but fourteen sum odd penalties in the football

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Speaker 1: game played like played and then with two forty two

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Speaker 1: to goal, you gave your quarterback, who he gave all

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Speaker 1: that money to the football with an opportunity to go

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Speaker 1: down the field and win it. He can do it,

480
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: and then the clock ran out. How much is that

481
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and family, and how much is that Mike

482
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Speaker 1: McCarthy and his staff. I wouldn't look. I'm not putting

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Speaker 1: anything on Jerry Jones and the family. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: it'sh rolls downhill, you know, I mean, it starts from

485
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Speaker 1: the top. And if your main concern is your main concern,

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Speaker 1: then and if you're getting that done, then you're winning,

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Speaker 1: so it's not really you know, I mean, you have

488
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Speaker 1: to change what the But you've won. Okay, my thing?

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Speaker 1: You won. Okay, they had a winning team last year

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Speaker 1: and you won the East. But the goal is not

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Speaker 1: to win the East. The goal is not to control

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Speaker 1: that section. The goal is to be the best team

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Speaker 1: in NFL. Right, yeah, I mean so, and that started

494
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Speaker 1: with you facing San Francisco, right and the team Okay,

495
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Speaker 1: McCarthy comes out to about we were nervous. Who now

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Speaker 1: that could be that's on the head coach, penalty on

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Speaker 1: the head coach, quarterback, hand the ball to the to

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Speaker 1: the center, not to the best moments. Those are the

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Speaker 1: players that you're putting out, like who's who's who's drafting

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Speaker 1: the players, who's putting the putting the team together? Where

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Speaker 1: is the where's the real ownership of the team? Who who?

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Speaker 1: Who runs the team? Okay, great, great point. And I'll

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Speaker 1: say this draft, I don't I don't have any complaints

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Speaker 1: about what the Cowboys do in terms of training. Their

505
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Speaker 1: drafts are good. When you talk about looking at Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl players and homegrown Pro Bowl players, I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the league of drafting. Now

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Speaker 1: here's a question I have. I look at the z contract.

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Speaker 1: You gave ninety million dollars and set them our for

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Speaker 1: a running back, and then you hire the head coach

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Speaker 1: who wants to throw the football boys. That right there,

512
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Speaker 1: to me doesn't make sense. That's a bad that's a

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Speaker 1: bad allocation of resources and service. You know, what are

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Speaker 1: we doing here? But it's Hill House. It's a house divided, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because because it's like it's you know, it's Kelly Moore's

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Speaker 1: scheming system. But he has a shield in Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: in front of them down now taking the bullets. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So here's here's my theory. Here's my theory on the

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Speaker 1: Kellen more than Okay, Mike McCarthy got turned out by

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Speaker 1: the Jets and the Browns, and you apply for the

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Speaker 1: job here, and you know, the Jones has told you,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, like Keller Moore. They really like Kelly Moore.

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Speaker 1: So what did my mccarths. I was gonna hire Keller

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Speaker 1: more or wherever I went because I like Keller Moore.

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Speaker 1: So you say, what job? Like I said, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here to myself. And then the whole

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Speaker 1: offseason the first year to about we need to get

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Speaker 1: run you know, we need to get some run balance here.

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Speaker 1: And so here's McCarthy basically saying, hey, man, stop throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball so much. And then if you listen to

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Speaker 1: McCarthy you could hear at times he was like, can

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Speaker 1: we run the ball here? Because Kellen Moore like cam City,

533
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: you get to pass happy here and so there I

534
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Speaker 1: have a point of the same thing with Wade, Wade

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Speaker 1: and Garrett and it's been what it it's been like

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Speaker 1: stop trying to say it is what it is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean like it starts from there to go like, bro,

538
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: that was so bad. That was so when when when

539
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Speaker 1: Jason didn't take that job and he got the new deal,

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Speaker 1: you saw the riding on the wall, and now you're

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Speaker 1: seeing the whole point right about, Hey, here's dan Quinn.

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Speaker 1: Apparently dan quinn contract is really rich that you got

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Speaker 1: to stay and now you got the head coach running

544
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Speaker 1: around on rich ties and about you know, man, I

545
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: don't like talking about Sean Payton. So take that point

546
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: of it is they have created a circus on that end.

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Speaker 1: Why don't he take the reins? That's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like if if you're a head coach, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: down for someone else's failure to produce. Like if it's me,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go out. Okay, you're you're the offsta cor

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Speaker 1: Did you come to me with a scheme? Right? I

552
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: see what you got going on. But I'm gonna call

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00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: the plays. I'm gonna, you know, dictate how the game flows.

554
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: But with him, it's just like, yeah, man, you know

555
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: there's Kelly. If you're gonna call it, all right, he's

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Speaker 1: calling it and he got the little you know, facing

557
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: over his face or whatever. But to me, if I'm

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00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: going down, I'm going down swinging with my own play

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00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: calls and if I feel I'm gonna feel on my own,

560
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: not somebody else's failure. And then we all lose it. Dance, man,

561
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: he gotta take the reins this year. He got to

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Speaker 1: got to he's got to find a way. He's gotta

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Speaker 1: find he gotta find a way to get in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he gotta find a way. That is a very good

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Speaker 1: point right there. You better find find a way and

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe call but you override it. No, we were

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Speaker 1: running on a third dawn right right, you're running on

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Speaker 1: the Saint No suggestion we're running on third da. It't

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Speaker 1: forced the hand, like if you if you get like

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell him like this is what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do, then you get then you're forcing management to

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Speaker 1: say no, you know, give it back to Kelly. What

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Speaker 1: you can do? Yeah, yeah, he could do that. When

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Speaker 1: I would talk to Gary Patterson when he was coaching

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Speaker 1: tell his offensive coordinators, Hey, um, I want to run

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Speaker 1: the ball on third down or we're inside the red zone,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we need to take some shots running

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Speaker 1: the ball. So he would tell his coordinators, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: this is what I want. I remember going back into

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00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: and you guys were little little little puppies back here.

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Speaker 1: But nineteen ninety two NFC Championship game, San Francisco gets

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Speaker 1: running out the clock, Jimmy Johnson tells because north Turns says,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to do? He says, I want

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Speaker 1: to win a game, And so north Turner throws the slant,

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Speaker 1: hits Alvin Harper. He runs down there for for about

588
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Speaker 1: running the football in Mmy Smith scored the touchdown. They

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Speaker 1: but Jimmy had input on what he wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: So so to me, if Mike, if you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: call the plays, be up in there with some heavy

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Speaker 1: suggestions about what it is you want. Don't be nice.

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Speaker 1: Stop being nice because if not, either Sean Payton or

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn we'll be coaching that team next year, not you.

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Speaker 1: So hey, let's get a break in here. Players. Anthony

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Speaker 1: another thirty minutes to go. Here, let us dive into

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Speaker 1: a guy that I've been wanting gone for a bitty No,

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Speaker 1: Greg's are line? Greg the leg? Hook them loud? Greg, Man,

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Speaker 1: it's six extra points. This year they saved two point

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Speaker 1: two five million dollars, So he's gone the game a

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Speaker 1: three year, seven mill over seven million dollars to be

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Speaker 1: their kicker. No, um, sorry, do you think they'll bring

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Speaker 1: him like coming and then bring him back on the

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Speaker 1: lower Hello? You see that looking at man? The frustrations

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Speaker 1: zerline Gay Cowboys Nation for that year was this is

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Speaker 1: where Mike was. This is where Mike McCarthy need to

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Speaker 1: step in and tell Bone. I know he's your boy,

661
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Speaker 1: but I need my job. That's what need to duck. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I got sharks circling the water right here, man

663
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: shot painting over here. I got a damn quinn right

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Speaker 1: behind me. I mean, ain't no, no, no, no, your

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Speaker 1: boy ain't no So right now we don't have any specialists.

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Speaker 1: You do you yo, well, you don't have a long

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Speaker 1: sent too. You've got you got you shout out the

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Speaker 1: LP man where he got help come on through, Um,

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00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: you do have a kicker. And where they signed Chris,

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00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: they signed Chris Nagar from uh It's it's a r

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Speaker 1: R n be good in a gard Nagar Please? You

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Speaker 1: had any makes a rap videos in The Cowboy and

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Speaker 1: the boss Man, Fat Man an fat Oh, so that's

674
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Speaker 1: your field goal kicker? He was. He was a lou

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Speaker 1: Gross Award UM finalist, didn't win it, but he was

676
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Speaker 1: over smu Let the American and in kicking now and

677
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: it takes me back to when Dan Bailey was here.

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00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey was another guy Oklahoma State. UM. He might

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00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: have won the Gross Award, but he was definitely a

680
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: finalist for it. Um it ended up having a good

681
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: having having a good career about five years there where

682
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: he was top. Yeah, he was automatic. Yeah. I remember

683
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: when uh Kai for Bath came through here. Kai was

684
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: over at UCLA, another another dominant kicker, and I remember

685
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: um Dan beat him out and then he went up

686
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: to Washington and was around for a little bit. So

687
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: so these guys who were in this gross award of conversation.

688
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: You know, give him an opportunity and they can kick.

689
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not the first place they're kicking it maybe

690
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: the second place. But but overall, I say this to

691
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Speaker 1: you know what, Zeroline had his time move on older

692
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: player dealing with injuries here. So maybe Nagar's demand, you know,

693
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Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. But but the opportunity, it's the

694
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Speaker 1: cowboys man, and go go find somebody. Somebody will kick

695
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: for you. And I know people loved to sit up

696
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Speaker 1: here and say, well, you know on the street for

697
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: reason that you know, this is different different with kickers

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Speaker 1: like that, Like even with Dan Bailey, he was here

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Speaker 1: for a while, then we let him go and he

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00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: went somewhere else in minnes So he performed there for

701
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: a long time. So they lose that little bit of

702
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: confidence or what. Yeah, it's like a golfer's golfer exactly,

703
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: Like you can start hooking them, hooking them left. I

704
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: try to find ya, try to find a way to

705
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: get it back. And then both yeah, Bones mentioned the

706
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: whole golf thing with with com he compared the man

707
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: it was that week before the playoff game. He's like, yeah,

708
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: I feel like he's close, he's about to get there.

709
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: I feel like like And I asked her, I said,

710
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: you're about to go to a playoff game, and you're

711
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: saying you think your kickers clah. I mean, what kind

712
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: of confidence you got in that job's on the line.

713
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: We think, yeah, like Crosin ready to go. And that's

714
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: the biggest thing about football, man. You gotta stay consistent.

715
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: Like being consistent football is probably the hardest thing but

716
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: the most important thing. And you gotta have that with

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Speaker 1: in every position, most part. You know. He said that,

718
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: and then he was like, well, you know what, it's

719
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Speaker 1: like golf, and you know, and he's like, it's like

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods. And I said, Tiger Woods, the Hall of Fame,

721
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: dude looking like Ricky Fowler out here looking like Tiger Woods.

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00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Ricky ain't got no majorsg man, got no majors up

723
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Speaker 1: in here. And uh yeah, he did make the fifty

724
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: one yard or in the playoff game. We all forgot

725
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: about it, but um yeah, but he had so many

726
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: misses along the way. I go back to think he

727
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: misses miss Tampa Bay. You lead four points out there

728
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: in the game, you lose by point. Then the Raider game.

729
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: He's shooting games where where you needed your guy to

730
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Speaker 1: do his part, not a hard part, just to do

731
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: his partners and he could not do that. So Greg's

732
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: arline cut Brian Anger the punter. Uh, he's a free agent,

733
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Speaker 1: probably not bringing him back here. That's a bowler too.

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Speaker 1: You know, I really wish that they could figure out

735
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: a way to get him back because he was a weapon.

736
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about flipping fields. Man. He was able to

737
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: punt it from the twenty and down and on the

738
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Speaker 1: opposite ten and that you know, that helped the defense

739
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Speaker 1: out a lot. Yeah, because you know, eventually, like he's like,

740
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: our defense was so turned over hungry this year. Eventually,

741
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: if they got the long drives, offense might make a mistake,

742
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: and that defense was able to capitalize on the soul.

743
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: Anger he did a hell of a job this year

744
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: penning those teams down deep. But like you said, I

745
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: doubt they'll be able to bring him back man. Yeah. Uh,

746
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: And you guys play defense, and I think in the

747
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: league now where everybody wants to go for it. This

748
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: gives Mike McCarthy an excellent opportunity many times to say,

749
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, let's just kick it. We'll kick it because

750
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: this guy flip the feel. Let's sending our defense out

751
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: here and make someone. I don't know why you got

752
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: these coaches now who don't want to make somebody go

753
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: seventy and sixty five yards. Never the first first drive

754
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, O Zach with the Bengals gonna

755
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: go for it like the forty eight forty year and

756
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: didn't get it. What are you doing? What are you doing?

757
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Game changing and just looking at it?

758
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at this thing. Let it's a super

759
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Bowl with man the first quarter. Mamber No, you got

760
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: top man kick it, make them go down. But yeah, analytics,

761
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: everything and everything everything, and analytics got you got you

762
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: watching the confetti for them instead of you getting it.

763
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Blake Darwin uh tight and cut Blake had hip surgery

764
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: saves three point eight million dollars in cap space. Then,

765
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: um another reason they could cut Blake jars because they

766
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: decided to franchise Dalton Schultz free agent tag for a

767
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: tight end ten to point nine million dollars, placing eleven

768
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: million dollars for Dalton shots. You're feeling on that on

769
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: those two moves oh uh, cutting cutting the injured player. Um,

770
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that. They'll, they'll, they're

771
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: they're going to work on the injury settlement. But he's

772
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: so he's going to recrup somebody. But yeah, they let him. Yeah,

773
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: but I mean, you putting the franchise tag on players

774
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: that's been in your system, you know what they can do.

775
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: You believe in them, you have confidence in them being

776
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: able to do what they've been doing. So I think

777
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: that's a good move by them. So it's yeah to me,

778
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: I I was, you know, I like what Dalton Schultz

779
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: brings as far as you know, he's that, he's that

780
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, complimentary guy. He's that that kind of security

781
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: blanket for Dak Prescott out there when things are break down, Oh,

782
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: let me find him. He's there, he's gonna make um.

783
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's the most dynamic tight

784
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: end out there. I think he's very witt and esque

785
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: as far as you know, yards after the catch and

786
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: very he just sounded what he's supposed to do. He's

787
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: not a great blocker. I mean we've seen that, you know,

788
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: throughout the entire year. He's not a great blocker. So

789
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: he's more of a receiving tight end. But he's not

790
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: a dynamic receiver. He's not a Kelsey, he's not a

791
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, the guy from San Francis Kitto. He's not

792
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: one of those type of gas or Darren Waller that

793
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: you can split out and he can, you know, make

794
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: defenses paid if you put the wrong guy. Yeah, so

795
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: I think he benefits more from the scheme. But if

796
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, put scheme over players like this

797
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: organization has basically said they're gonna do by getting rid

798
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: of their number one receiver and basically saying the scheme

799
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: is over the players, I think he fits well in

800
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: this scheme and he could he could be productive. But

801
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: to me, with that franchise tag, I think that just

802
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: keeps him off the streets, and I think they'll try

803
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: to rework some deal to get him out of lower

804
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: cap number. But you know, I think overall it could

805
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: be a solid move for the Cowboys. By the way,

806
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: just to clear it up here story of here on

807
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys that come by being wave slash injured. Jarwin

808
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: qualified for an injured injury settlement with the team, which

809
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: allowed him to recoup some of his burning so he'll

810
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: be able to get paid. But the Cowboys saved roughly

811
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: three point eight million dollars in cap space while carrying

812
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: a charge of only two million dollars. If you don't

813
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: give Shultz the tag, you're gonna allow him to get

814
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: to the market. So if the market's eleven million dollars

815
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: and you've got teams who have some flush cash can

816
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: need a tight end, you're probably going to Lucy. And

817
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: then what other options did you have if you've Jarwin's gone,

818
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: Shultz is gone, Sean McKowen, yeah, or Sprinkle, But yeah,

819
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: we know we can't go. You can't go into the

820
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: season with those being your starters. So you don't have

821
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: to give Sholts a long term deal. You don't have to.

822
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: It's not like I don't anticipate Shultz doing the DeVante

823
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: Adams and say, hey, I ain't playing a no franchise

824
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: to He's gonna take. He gonna take all that he

825
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: might might be hit day, go ahead, that paper work

826
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: at right, He'll put this right here and then go

827
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: back and play some more video games after dat. What

828
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So, I mean guy went to Standford. He

829
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonn sitting around here and turn down and let me.

830
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: Now let's I mean, might as well take it. But

831
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys, I think that's a smart move

832
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: considering you're letting Cooper go. So so let's at least

833
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: have the tight end that we know our quarterback has

834
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: a report or report with and our coaching staff knows

835
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: and understands. Yes, he's got some limitations in blocking, but

836
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: this now falls upon them as an organization. Go find

837
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: someone block. Hopefully Kellen can get him getting right. But

838
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: so so Spase, you you had the franchise tag was

839
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: two years? Two years? Like, how did that process work?

840
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Like I never got the opportunity to go to that

841
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: franchise and how how do that think work? So like

842
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: when when you were going through it, you know, how

843
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: did that work for for your situation? I was trying

844
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: to get a long term deal. I wanted to finish

845
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: my career here. We just getting CI to I like

846
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: I thought, I believe that was one thing and they

847
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 1: believed that was another thing. So it worked out in

848
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: the because I ended up making what they were trying

849
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 1: to sign me for my signing botus for the first

850
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: year and then the next year I get ended up

851
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: getting signed it again. So I had like a guaranteed

852
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: me three years for I want to say, thirty million.

853
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: I made the eighteen and the two years that I

854
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: got franchise, and I got guaranteed those two years guaranteed.

855
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: If I could do it again, I probably would took

856
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: the long, longer term deal, seeing what happened with my

857
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: injuries and all that type of stuff. So but it

858
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: was a it was a frustrating time for me. Yeah,

859
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe him. Yeah, So more Cowboys news to

860
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: get into here, jay Ron curse safety free agency. So

861
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm surprised, I'm that's one. I'm surprised that they didn't

862
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: reach out to and try to get something on the books.

863
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: So maybe they have, you know, maybe they haven't. We

864
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: haven't heard him it yet. But to me, he was

865
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: one of the more important players on this defense last year.

866
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, he had the green dot and you all

867
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: you know about the green dot. Thatt means you gotta

868
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: get everybody on the defense aligned and community Hayden and

869
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: ready to go in on the same page. And I

870
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: feel like he did a great job of that, and

871
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: it also allowed we talked about it in the previous shows.

872
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: It also allowed Michael Parsons to become just a sea ball,

873
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: go get ball. He didn't have to worry about, you know,

874
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: lining people up and getting the calls from the coaches.

875
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: He just heard what he had to do hard. Let

876
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: me go get ball, Go sea ball. So, you know,

877
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: I think Curse and plus Curse played, you know how

878
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: that kind of heck of a season he was. You know,

879
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: he was part of one of the man reason that

880
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: they were able to play so well on the defensive

881
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball. So I would be surprised if

882
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: with all the cap space they kind of freed up,

883
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: if they didn't, you know, reach out to him to

884
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: try to get him done. I think he's one of

885
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: the more important players on his defense. Yeah, most I

886
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: feel like having those guys out there that can communicate

887
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: to the rest of the defense, like it just it's

888
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: something that you just don't see, like those those intangibles,

889
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: like with Cooper, like the double teams and things that

890
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: he was bringing, Like those are the things that you

891
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: don't see, but it makes the team better and you

892
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: can't you there's no analytics for that exactly, there's no

893
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: stat for it, so you can't really judge it. But

894
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: it's very it's it's it's invaluable. Yes, I would agree.

895
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: So this may be a case and the Cowboys have

896
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: done this before. All right, see what you can get

897
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: and call us back, because while curse has value here,

898
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: this is value translate to other teams in the same way. Yeah,

899
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of a scheme guy because we

900
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen he's been in the league within

901
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: like six years now. Detroit Ministry, they said, you know,

902
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: we're good. So so that's the that's the interesting type

903
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: of situation here, and it will be one thing. Let's

904
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: say dan Quinn left, or let's say dan Quinn got

905
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: the job in Denver, got the job in Chicago, then

906
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: maybe it's a different story because then maybe they're bidding

907
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: on it. But since dan Quinn is back and no

908
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: one else of significance from the defensive coaching staff has

909
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: gone anywhere else, so maybe no one else views him

910
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: in that fashion. So so letting him go out on

911
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: the market and see what he can get. I could

912
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: understand that that thought process. Bobby Wagner's name has come

913
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: up a whole lot of Seattle. Let him go. You're

914
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who I believe will at least

915
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: be on the ballot list for the Pro Football Hall Fame.

916
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: He's done. I don't know if he gets in, but

917
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: but you gotta gotta at least has to be in

918
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: the conversation Luke's getting in. If Luke Keith Lee isn't,

919
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: he got to because they were on it. They were basically,

920
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: for you know, eight years, the two best linebackers in

921
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: the national football and that's Keith. Lee's another interesting guy.

922
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 1: He's just just you definitely have on the ballot, gets

923
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: in the conversation, getting in as a whole as d

924
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: Ware We've seen that's a whole, another another, it's a

925
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: whole another special. But at least have your ain't talked

926
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: about to get on the list. Definitely that kind of

927
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: player here. A lot of folks want Bobby Wagner here,

928
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: but let's be up, there's not a lot of catch. Yeah,

929
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: and he's gonna cost It's gonna cost you. I mean

930
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: just with with the the championships that he's won, the

931
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: experiences that he has, the knowledge of the game. I

932
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: mean that those types of things, those those can be measured.

933
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: So you'll definitely have to pay for that. And he's done.

934
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: He's been in like you said, he's been in a

935
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: Quinn system before when he was a d Q or

936
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: DC over in Seattle, So he knows the guys system.

937
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: He can come in. He could take a lot of

938
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: pressure off of those guys, but you know, getting them

939
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: lined up and the direction he can play beside Parsons,

940
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: or you can move Parsons down to the defensive line

941
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: let him do having there. So it's a veteran guy

942
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: that a lot of people on this young defense can

943
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: learn off of. I'm a big proponent of leadership and

944
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: what else guys bring to the room. And Bobby Wagner

945
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: walks in with a ring and to put a Bobby

946
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Wagner next to a Michael Parsons the kind of leadership

947
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: he can learn from because we've seen what Mica has

948
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: done in terms of going to your old teammate DeMarcus Ware,

949
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, and just just learning from that. And even

950
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: take Launce with his career turn around going and talking

951
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: to a DeMarcus Ware. So you're bringing a guy like

952
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner man. You know, there's the price that you

953
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: pay for the player, but what kind of benefit do

954
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: you get when a great young player watches a guy

955
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: who's got a Hall of Fame like career on a

956
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: daily basis. I go back, and this is just me.

957
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: The biggest mistake Bud Adams, the late Bud Adams made

958
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: when he owned his football team, was drafting Vince Young

959
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: but cutting Steve McNair. What he should have done was

960
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: keep Steve McNair there and have Vince Young learned from

961
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: Steve McNair, because the problem with Vince Young was never

962
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: the problem. Problem was just he didn't know how to

963
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: be a pro the way you needed to be a pro,

964
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: and to watch a guy like McNair do it. Because

965
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Vince had a hell of a lot of respect for him.

966
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was the thing that he could have done.

967
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: But you tried to save some money. Here, you save

968
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: some money, but Vince was Rookie of the Year and

969
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: they want a playoff game. But still what he could

970
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: have learned from watching a pro. I just believe you

971
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: look at Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers learned from me. You

972
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: got to see what it was like for Brett Farker.

973
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, people right now talk about taking somebody in

974
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: the first round for a quarterback. To me, I go

975
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: over there at Green Band. Here's a two. Give me

976
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. Geordan Love been watching Aaron Rodgers before I

977
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks I see right now they talk about drafting

978
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: like he's got question marks before I deal a question

979
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: mark there, go give me Jordan Love. Has been in

980
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: the league two years, who when Aaron Rodgers was sitting out,

981
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: got to run the off season program and just give

982
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: me that guy. I just think there's something to be

983
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: learned from from great players. But you guys played so

984
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: no better than me. Whether that guy's I feel like

985
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: it's it's the most important thing for a young player

986
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: to do is to find an older guy that's been

987
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: in it for a while and just to see their routine,

988
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: the things that they do on a weekly basis, how

989
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: they recover, how they get ready for the game, and

990
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: how they perform during the game. You like, those things

991
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: all go hand in hand. So having somebody in the

992
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: locker room like that, like the Greg Ellis and the

993
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Wars and the Jason Wittens, like those guys are

994
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: you can't you can't, you can't pay enough for him? Yeah,

995
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: Greg Ellis, boy, you talk about the guy who's just

996
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: steady every day. Man. I love GREGI gret greg Ellis

997
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: was and I know people consistently talk about how the

998
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys took him and stead of Randy Moss. But UM

999
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: tell you what, you if you could draft a Greg

1000
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: Ellis on your football team every year, you'd be a

1001
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: really good football team for a long time. Effect because

1002
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: because this guy every I love what Mike Zimmers, I

1003
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about him on game day. He's

1004
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna do his job. He's he's gonna be where he is.

1005
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: And when you get a guy like that, like a Wagner,

1006
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: it holds the defensive accountability. Let me, I think, you know,

1007
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: these penalties that we we've seen happened throughout the season

1008
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: and came to bite us in the butt, you know,

1009
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: during that playoff game. You know, I think if you

1010
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: got a guy with his resume and in just his stature,

1011
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: he'll get after guys and hold him accountable. And guys

1012
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: are like, you know, hey, we can't make this situation

1013
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: because or make this situation worse because we're hurting the team.

1014
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: And if you get that type of leadership out there

1015
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football, I think they

1016
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: have it. You know, in that offensive line and some

1017
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: of their veteran players, but on the defense, it was

1018
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: relatively extremely young. I mean, you had the dlogue, you know,

1019
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: but he was hurt the majority of the year, so

1020
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: hard it's hard to have that that that if you're

1021
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: not out there playing. It's hard to tell a guy voice.

1022
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: Hard to have a voice when you're not doing it. Exactly. Yeah,

1023
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: all right, Uh, let's spend our last ten minutes of

1024
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: this players Podcast brought to you about hotels dot Com

1025
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: talking about the offensive line. Lell Collins reportedly told by

1026
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys he can seek a trade. So, um

1027
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Collins if he's a post June one cut saves um

1028
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: ten million dollars under the twenty twenty two cap here.

1029
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: They clearly love Terrence Steele. So at this point in time,

1030
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: I just feel once they come, once they come telling

1031
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: you to go seek a trade, they or they ask you,

1032
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: yeah right, we we we got other plans. So your

1033
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: thoughts on Collins not being here to me, He it's

1034
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: kind of a sicky situation because he has no one

1035
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: to blame pretty much back but himself, because you know,

1036
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: if he would have come came back, didn't that whole

1037
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: situation where he got suspended for five games and all

1038
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: that stuff. We would have never heard about Terren Steele.

1039
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: You know, if Terren Steele played the year before and

1040
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: he didn't play at a very good level, and if

1041
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: Collins was here, we would have never seen Terren Steele

1042
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: in this whole situation might not have ever happened. So

1043
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: to me, you know, Collins has to blame a little bit,

1044
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: has to put the blame on himself or being in

1045
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: this situation. But for me, it's I'm confused because I'm like,

1046
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: hold on, you know, Collins asking him to seek a trade.

1047
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: What about Tyren Smith? Like, you know that he's been

1048
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: a very very great player for a very long time,

1049
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: but these past three seasons he's missed on average five six,

1050
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, seven games out there, and no one's you know,

1051
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: asking this guy to you know, hey, we need you

1052
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: to you know, you know, we work this deal. I mean,

1053
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have a high cap hit because

1054
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: he's sound that super team friendly deal. But are you

1055
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: really gonna count on, you know, ten games every year

1056
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: from your starting left tackle or do you think you

1057
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: should put something in there or somebody in there to

1058
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, help bolster that line or at least give

1059
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: him some competition to where he's a made man. I understand,

1060
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: but but it's like the team like Jerry Jerry. These

1061
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: left tackles under Jerry Man, they're made man. And you

1062
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: may say, man, I'm ready to move off. He probably

1063
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: held on the flozelle two three years longer than he

1064
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: needed to. But that's how Jerry feels about these left tackles.

1065
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: So you, you and mccrai need to move off there.

1066
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: But who do we go through if he goes down

1067
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: for five hiring is here? This is about Collins and

1068
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: then feeling that they've got sick down to second over there.

1069
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, but at this point in time, here's

1070
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: what we do know. They liked tearing steal Sealfully, so

1071
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: he played well at right tackles and when they tried

1072
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: him at left it wasn't the same. He's a right tackle,

1073
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: so they're going to say right tackle, we'll move on

1074
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: from Collins. College is not a left If College is

1075
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: a lefty, they'd be talking about it. They don't feel

1076
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: as a left tackle, they don't feel as a guard,

1077
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: talked about the bend on it. So so they're going

1078
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: to move on from Collins, and I don't know what

1079
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: they can get, but in this league, I mean, if

1080
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: you Cincinnati Bengals, why not offer up a two. Your

1081
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: dude just got thirty one sacks nine, right, I mean right? So,

1082
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean if you, if you are the Bengals, what

1083
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: are you waiting on? You should have been that you

1084
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: should have been you haul on down here to come

1085
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: get him and taken. They're gonna get another skill player?

1086
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Why point? I mean right now? I mean that that's

1087
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: that's the key. You know, you you may have won

1088
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: a super Bowl if you could have protected your quarterback here.

1089
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: So I think there's a market for college Denvers, a

1090
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: team that was rumored out there. We saw what they

1091
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: did when they got ron Leary. Ron Learry left left

1092
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: because because they got Collins and Ron Leary had a

1093
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: he had a really nice career up in there. And

1094
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: then for so to me, somebody's gonna get college, You're

1095
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: gonna get a motivated player. I can't imagine this is

1096
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: not embarrassing to him that your team's basically giving up

1097
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: on the secret trade. You lost your job to undraft

1098
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: to do from Texas Tech. You gotta look at it.

1099
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean when he even when he came back, it

1100
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: wasn't like his job was back immediately. I mean he

1101
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: had he was playing fullback for you know, a game

1102
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: or two. So it just goes to show you what

1103
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: this what the team really thinks about you. And if

1104
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: I'm him, I'm saying, Okay, you know, let me see

1105
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: what my markets like out there. You know, obviously I'm

1106
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: not valued here. And but like I said in the beginning,

1107
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: he has no one else to blame but a self.

1108
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: But what's your thoughts on this whole offensive line? You know,

1109
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: how they you know, basically we're playing fantasy football, mismatching

1110
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: people here and there. We had some weak links. YEA,

1111
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: the line is aging, So it is I feel like

1112
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: a lot for the last two I would say years.

1113
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: I feel like they're living off the hype of the

1114
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: three previous Yes there, they're living off of that thinking

1115
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: that they were what they weren't. So and this this

1116
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: game has a way of showing you who you really are.

1117
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: So and that's really what's happened over the last two years.

1118
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: And they they have to find some way to be better,

1119
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: be more consistent, be more available, you know, I mean,

1120
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: like you're saying with tires like they got, they gotta

1121
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: find players that are going to be out there and

1122
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: consistent because those those groups they work as one. I mean,

1123
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: they have to have that that continuity to be able

1124
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: to move those other big lining on the other side

1125
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: of the ball. So it's it's it's I feel like

1126
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: they're in a really tough spot. They got a few

1127
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: different positions that need to fill up there, and they

1128
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: need backups behind those glass They are going to be hurt.

1129
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: So I mean it's tough. It's real tough, you know.

1130
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: So they gotta they just gotta find a way. And

1131
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: and having tiring, I feel like it's a good thing

1132
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: just because of the player that he has been and

1133
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: like we were talking about early, like he's been in

1134
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: those games he's been, He's gone up against a lot

1135
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: of different types of players, so his mind is a

1136
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: little bit higher up than where his body probably is

1137
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: right now. But he has that knowledge that he can

1138
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: distill onto those players, you know what I meant in

1139
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: presence exactly, And like you said, we still playing on

1140
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: the right side. He can't more to the list side,

1141
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: like it's a whole another monster over there. But just

1142
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: being able to do those Yeah, I mean being able

1143
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 1: to go over there and and lose, but you still

1144
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: get better by playing on that side and then going

1145
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: back to this side. I mean, so it is what

1146
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, yeah, but Collins next guy to probably

1147
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: be going, and with the league year coming up here,

1148
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: I could see something getting done and obviously teams somebody's

1149
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna want him. Oh yeah. I mean, if you're trading

1150
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: Cooper for for twenty million dollars, this guy's making ten.

1151
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: He's a starter in the league. There's just too many

1152
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: teams who have offensive line issues at so I expect

1153
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: a deal to go down for him, and to me, um,

1154
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: I would need a three or four from the Cowboys least. Yeah,

1155
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: some type of value, you know, don't let him just

1156
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: walk out the door. Yeah, brings something back to the

1157
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: table and something. Yeah, if he's gone, right tackle, I

1158
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: mean I'm pursuing. You know, Connor Williams is gonna be

1159
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: gone in free agency, that's sure. What right guard or

1160
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: left guard? Left guard? So, I mean, what are we

1161
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna do that center? Do we believe? Be honest? Is

1162
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: the answer? At center? You know, I don't know. There's

1163
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: a whole lot of question marks on this offensive line

1164
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: up front, a lot of them. You gotta shure that

1165
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: up before the season starts because that's probably, if not

1166
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: the most important, one of the most important positions field.

1167
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: Look that this is this is an off season of

1168
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 1: a lot of change, and they're making moves and we'll

1169
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: keep talking about it right here on the Players Line podcast.

1170
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: But there's so much to go. You got Tom Brady,

1171
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: who's back. I couldn't believe I've seen that yesterday. Hey man,

1172
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: hey man, do tire that car line school? Were tired

1173
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: to picking them kids in that car? Or so because

1174
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: many parent teach conferences for two weeks, wife to put

1175
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: him to work. So you know what I'm going I'm

1176
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: going back. I've spent more time with my kids and

1177
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: then they need to be put for what I gotta do?

1178
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: What again, the Dad's Club? Why do I need to

1179
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: join the Dad's Club of school? Yes? You do? Um? So, yeah,

1180
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: put these kids asleep? What I'm going back? Yeah, Tom

1181
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: Brady said. But the Cowboys are going to face the

1182
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: Buccaneers Jerry World this year. Deshan Watson is going to

1183
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: uh apparently entertain some meetings Trump Carolina and New Wills.

1184
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: He's got a non compete. Um, Carolina, New Orleans, bring

1185
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: Peyton back in New Orleans, NFC East, I mean she

1186
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: said NFC teams. Philadelphia is the name of another NFC team.

1187
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: So here's the sean in AFC. It could be popular

1188
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: with this way here. So it's gonna be interesting to

1189
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: see where the FC is loaded with quarterbacks. Now that

1190
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: you got Russell Wilson, Hustle, Joe Uh, Joe what's his

1191
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: name not Joe Brady, Joe Burrow Burn Rulson, I mean

1192
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: got my homes? Yeah, geeez. Uh, by the way we did,

1193
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: we didn't we talk about Connor. Connor Carson wentz coming

1194
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: to me. He's back. He's bad, He's bad. Literally, are

1195
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: the commanders the command commanders? So first off, all right,

1196
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: So I was looking online and it showed that the

1197
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: Vegas odds for Washington went down. They went down Vengas.

1198
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: Oh this, dude, Yes, that's how that's how little they thinking. Man,

1199
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: this odds went down. Um. I just don't understand how

1200
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: you can commit twenty six million dollars to a guy

1201
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: who who you keep asking him about a year that

1202
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: he had one he had one good year, one good year,

1203
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: and you still holding onto that like, man, we think

1204
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: he can go back get that one good year. No,

1205
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't. He wasn't even the quarterback for the whole year.

1206
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: Was he got hurt. And that's the thing I can

1207
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: crack up on me. Where who else do we in

1208
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: the talking about? Hey man, you know he was good

1209
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: that one for five years. We think we can get

1210
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: that one good you? No, No, the dude who said

1211
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: I can make him that guy again? Just sit you

1212
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: gotta go right, I mean even Frank right you no, No,

1213
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: I understand he pretty much melted down those last two games.

1214
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: But the season he had a decent season twenty seven

1215
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: and seven? The old did you hit older? He's like,

1216
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: ain't nobody coming back here who ain't vaccinated? You know

1217
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: who he was talking about, Carson Wentz, the GM up there, Well,

1218
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: we gotta look at all options. So the GM is like, man,

1219
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: g a GM is basically he did it. That was

1220
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Frank's guy, So Chris Ballard right, So Frank like, hey man,

1221
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: I did I mean basically he came out there said

1222
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: I stuck my neck out for here. Now, when you

1223
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: say I stuck my neck out for you, it's always

1224
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: with like, hey man, you saw I stuck my neck

1225
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: out for you. You git me like nobody ever says

1226
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: and in a positive way. He man, suck my neck

1227
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: out for you. Didn't do it the negative. Hey man,

1228
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: it's just how you do me right here for you.

1229
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Yet you gotta look at him. At the same time, though,

1230
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: it's like, how many quarterbacks are there out there that

1231
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: have that that? I mean, just that miss Russell Wilson.

1232
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: They tried and they missed him. Okay, but for twenty

1233
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: six million dollars, Oh yeah, that's stepkay. But that's what's

1234
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: the average? What the what the thirties thirties the quarterback

1235
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: with what they what they making this year? I mean

1236
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: they average and thirty, But just dude, it ain't no thirties.

1237
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: It's underneath that. Plus plus you still have to give

1238
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: up picks. Yeah, you're given up at least two threes

1239
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: for a dude. That all right? See Spen, this is

1240
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: me when you're a boy who stuck his neck out

1241
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: for you. He one year and he liked that. The owners,

1242
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean too many people were like, nah, man, he

1243
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: gotta go right, I can't do it. I mean, if

1244
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: you don't, we've seen folks mess it together. I mean

1245
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: fine called jameis winstay. I mean it's people you can

1246
01:00:53,360 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: call thirty not a lot, That's all I'm saying. And

1247
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a lot. The quarterback class this

1248
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: year is not as strong as it's been in years past.

1249
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans got they paid James one five last year

1250
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: one five. Don't look at that. Don't five million on

1251
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: one like run down? I can't. I'm understand, man. I

1252
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: mean you know, okay, yeah, I come back. You gave

1253
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: up at least a three year. Why don't you calling

1254
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay for Geordan Love He don't have he doesn't

1255
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: have that. You got the resume, you don't have the

1256
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: proven he hasn't been out. There was Carson showing you.

1257
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's showing you. He did go

1258
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: twenty seven for seven, he won the six million dollar.

1259
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: You can't beat Jacksonville last game of the year, last

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Speaker 1: game of the year to those last year. No, we

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Speaker 1: need this right going to the playoffs. Jacksonville a hard

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Speaker 1: place to playoff. Yeah, it is a hard place. What

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Speaker 1: I expects to win the twenty six I did win

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Speaker 1: one year. There did y'all was following you? We did?

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Speaker 1: We did and then the next year we was transh

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Speaker 1: Anthony Spencer Man. We appreciate that Spence for coming to

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Speaker 1: billing for Annie mcraig, Barry Church. I'm knew he scrugs

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Speaker 1: from producer Chris Beam. We appreciate everybody for checking out

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Speaker 1: the player's eyes. We'll do it again next Monday, ten

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