Speaker 1: Welcome back Unplugged twenty twenty five. I got somebody in
Speaker 1: the building. We usually get you from satellite. We got
Speaker 1: you in the building. Man, Welcome Stephen Jesse Easy Jackson.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir today Baby.
Speaker 1: What's up with you bro?
Speaker 2: New year? Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got something for you. Though I gave you
Speaker 1: some gifts earlier, I got one more gift for you,
Speaker 1: my game.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I got one more gift for you.
Speaker 2: The gift. Yeah, here I have it. No, sir, you.
Speaker 1: Don't want it. You don't want this peace. I got
Speaker 1: this for you, Bro. You don't want no swine hommie.
Speaker 1: Oh man, let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler says straight up and down. He does not
Speaker 1: want to beknew was coming in Miami anymore receive the
Speaker 1: seven game suspension, thoughts.
Speaker 3: I knew it was coming. I mean, I can kind
Speaker 3: of see the pattern with Jimmy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was the same kind of pattern in Philadelphia and
Speaker 3: the Minnesota, and we're not happy.
Speaker 2: He started being heard a lot, I started.
Speaker 3: Missing games, started doing a lot of unusual stuff from
Speaker 3: the competitor that we know. Jimmy Butter to be right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, so I start seeing that,
Speaker 3: and you know when past starts saying stuff, and you
Speaker 3: know the dominant character Jimmy is and the lead he is.
Speaker 3: I knew he was gonna show some rebuttal and go
Speaker 3: against it. I didn't know he's gonna come out and
Speaker 3: just say it can't work.
Speaker 2: It no more.
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting that, but hey, I knew. I knew
Speaker 3: it was coming to that. But where he's gonna go
Speaker 3: is the biggest question. It's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: But I see both sides because obviously pat Riley has
Speaker 1: a history of just being mafia and doing things his way,
Speaker 1: and that's produced championships with the Lakers, that's produced championships
Speaker 1: with the Heat, you know, his stint in New York,
Speaker 1: and it's been his where the high I mean, he
Speaker 1: let d Wade go at one point, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron left, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: my question is everyone has to kind of conform to
Speaker 1: what this new era of basketball is. And to Jimmy's defense,
Speaker 1: although I don't ever really he's always had some bitch
Speaker 1: made antics to me, But to his defense, what is
Speaker 1: pat brought him in the last ten years as far
Speaker 1: as stars, and I saw Dan Levatar brought a great
Speaker 1: point up I think it was today or yesterday that
Speaker 1: they've got the most out of the underachievers. They get
Speaker 1: the underchievers to achieve at their highest level, and those
Speaker 1: have always been the guys that they've put around Jimmy.
Speaker 1: They've never really got a superstar to come help Jimmy.
Speaker 1: You know, you get you know, you get the Martin
Speaker 1: Twins that played their ass off, and you get the
Speaker 1: Max Struce's and the Gay Vincent's and all these guys
Speaker 1: play great and help these runs, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like what do you really giving them?
Speaker 1: You know, you got to you have Bam who's you know,
Speaker 1: had a down year, Tyler Hero who's had an up year.
Speaker 1: But overall, you've never really paired anyone alongside the Jimmy
Speaker 1: to really make that next step. So I say that
Speaker 1: to Jimmy's defense. But at the same time, Jack, in
Speaker 1: your opinion, Will pat Riley ended up being a Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones and running this shit into the ground if he
Speaker 1: doesn't kind of change the way he looks at these
Speaker 1: new younger players, because if I'm a younger player now
Speaker 1: looking at this shit, not knowing all the details, so
Speaker 1: we're not sure who's at fault. We just know what
Speaker 1: we've seen and heard. I don't want to fuck with
Speaker 1: Miami if I know you know, pat Riley's on this
Speaker 1: kind of time. So your thoughts on will pat Riley
Speaker 1: kind of conform or will he go down this way
Speaker 1: until he's out the league?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he'll go down if he don't change.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't think his mentality and championship
Speaker 3: mentality has to change, but his approach definitely has.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got to change. You approach has to change.
Speaker 3: You can't be that same drill Sardan type of guy's
Speaker 3: money everywhere. You know what I'm saying, Teams are looking
Speaker 3: for guys and then it's very few dogs in the league.
Speaker 3: That's why you got Jimmy there to be a dog,
Speaker 3: but you didn't put no star with him. The guys
Speaker 3: you said Matt are average guys to me, and none
Speaker 3: of these guys are gonna be guys that take over games.
Speaker 3: And Bam solid, but Bam was still not that guy
Speaker 3: to me. You know what I'm saying. I like Bam,
Speaker 3: I'm not dissinging, but he's still not that guy. To me,
Speaker 3: he's not know Anthony Davis to you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: He's not that type of guy. So they didn't put
Speaker 3: the right guys with Jimmy. But Pat has to change
Speaker 3: his approach that the Championship Battle two. We all love
Speaker 3: that from Pat, but his approach has to change again.
Speaker 1: I'll give him props to Jimmy because again I don't
Speaker 1: really like his antics sometimes that I ain't gotta like him,
Speaker 1: but I always respect when he's out there, when he
Speaker 1: wants to play and is down to play. He's a monster.
Speaker 1: And what he's been able to do with that franchise
Speaker 1: and get him to where they've gotten with the with
Speaker 1: the roster they've pad. You always got to show Jimmy
Speaker 1: love with that. But you know now that ship the
Speaker 1: count is out the bag and he's going to be gone.
Speaker 1: There's some action out there. There's there's a few landings
Speaker 1: about a lot of speculations here Golden State. You hear Houston,
Speaker 1: You hear the Grizzlies. You know the Grizzlies right now,
Speaker 1: young talent gig Jackson, Jalen Wells, big contracts of Marcus
Speaker 1: Smart and Canard, the Spurs, you know, they're always trying
Speaker 1: to put people next to Winbin Yama. I've been an
Speaker 1: absolute monster the Sons. The Bradley Beal experiment has not
Speaker 1: worked with the Suns. Him and Nurkic were just benched.
Speaker 1: So that's a possible option. And it seems like that
Speaker 1: ship is sinking out there in Phoenix and then the Pelicans.
Speaker 1: You know, Zion is on the market. Do you trade
Speaker 1: a young kid with all the potential in the world
Speaker 1: but hasn't been healthy or what was he thirty four
Speaker 1: to thirty five? Hold is Jimmy thirty five year old
Speaker 1: who wants He still wants that bag too. He wants
Speaker 1: what you know what? Paul George got what four for two?
Speaker 1: Huh two fifteen? So Jimmy wants something like that on
Speaker 1: his way out. So I'm not sure if he'll get that.
Speaker 1: But do you see any suitable landing spots for Jimmy
Speaker 1: for me?
Speaker 2: Their own places of Spurs. Everything else is fluff.
Speaker 3: The Spurs is the only spot because that way he
Speaker 3: can he's going to the end of his career, he
Speaker 3: can get his contract and possibly have a great chance
Speaker 3: to win a championship and bring some toughness to a team.
Speaker 3: That don't have have no toughness, you know. And I
Speaker 3: think him and Chris Paul would be great together, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm continuing to pray for my guy Pop. Hopefully
Speaker 3: we'll see him back soon. But I think that'd be
Speaker 3: a great path, a great move for him. That's the
Speaker 3: only move. Everything else he'll be in the way, He'll
Speaker 3: be beefing with everybody because he'll be in situations where
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just telling you why, because I've done it.
Speaker 3: You go to sit teams where you with young guys
Speaker 3: that don't understand how to win. Now you just a
Speaker 3: part of a rebuilding process going out, going to the
Speaker 3: end of your career.
Speaker 2: You're not finishing the way you want to.
Speaker 3: So I think the only way he can go somewhere
Speaker 3: where he can feel like a pro, feel like a champion,
Speaker 3: and get his money and finish the right way. I
Speaker 3: think it'll be Santini and he from Texas.
Speaker 1: So before we get out of here, I think he
Speaker 1: has one year left on his deal, right, So my
Speaker 1: question is, does Pat do him dirty and send him
Speaker 1: somewhere nasty.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been done, it's been done. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was son to Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I died. That's when you start to promote your mixtap.
Speaker 1: Went hard on my rapping. It'll be anything to see,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Obviously a lot of love
Speaker 1: for Pat and what he's done for this league, but
Speaker 1: all we know, these young kids do not move the
Speaker 1: way and all Jimmy's kind of the last of a
Speaker 1: dying bree. Jimmy's from our era, but last of a
Speaker 1: dying bree. But if I'm a young kid looking at
Speaker 1: what's going on, that might might deter me. And then
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy is on the backside of his career.
Speaker 1: And again we praised him for what he's been able
Speaker 1: to do with the roster he's been given in Miami.
Speaker 1: But times up, times up, Anthony Airports.
Speaker 3: Oh look, we can't get talk about I can't get
Speaker 3: through Miami. Did you see how Tyler Hero got slammed?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that real by one of the twins? That
Speaker 1: shit looked at fake one of the twins man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to talk about that now. That's why
Speaker 2: they're not playing with after that.
Speaker 1: I liked Tye here boy, there wasn't ship he was
Speaker 1: gonna do after that. Yeah, just walk around a little
Speaker 1: bit like you want smoke, but just let her want
Speaker 1: to get getting between you.
Speaker 3: Now, he was busting his ass any slam like that, and.
Speaker 1: He says some slick ship out. Didn't he like he
Speaker 1: was mad because he was doing pretty much everything. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be mad too, yeaheah, getting a lot of love
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards not wanting to pass so much After the
Speaker 1: loss of the Celtics last week, Ant state, I'm only
Speaker 1: twenty three. I don't want to just be a passing
Speaker 1: the ball guy all night jack. To me, this is
Speaker 1: interesting and this is young because obviously we're huge fans
Speaker 1: of Anthony Edwards, and doubles and triple teams are the
Speaker 1: ultimate sign of respect, ultimate side of respect. We remember
Speaker 1: a few years ago where Devin Booker in the pickup
Speaker 1: game was complaining about getting double team, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And obviously we played against and and with Kobe,
Speaker 1: and he was someone who loved the double and even
Speaker 1: looked for the triple, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on kind of Ant's perspective of
Speaker 1: To me, I just think it's young, and again I
Speaker 1: think this shows lack of vets that could really getting
Speaker 1: these young players years to let end know, bro the
Speaker 1: only reason why their double team is used because now
Speaker 1: you're the only on the team that can beat us.
Speaker 1: This cat trade has not worked out for Minnesota. Anthony
Speaker 1: Edwards is the only person on that team they could
Speaker 1: beat him, So our a triple team. That motherfucker if
Speaker 1: I needed to slow him down. But what is your
Speaker 1: thoughts if you were in the locker room with someone
Speaker 1: like Anthony Edwards and he's kind of going through this
Speaker 1: stage right now, what would be something you would lean
Speaker 1: on him and breathe on him about.
Speaker 3: The First thing I'll tell him is Tim Duncan is
Speaker 3: probably one of the top five players of all time
Speaker 3: in my opinion and a lot of people's opinion.
Speaker 2: Go watch him. He knew when to pass and when
Speaker 2: the score.
Speaker 3: I played in the Western Conference fines with probably, like
Speaker 3: I said, one of the best power for whatever and
Speaker 3: probably the first three quarters he was getting doubled and
Speaker 3: he didn't even looked to shoot the ball. He was
Speaker 3: just picking Dallas apart because he has shooters around. So
Speaker 3: you got to know you know your teammates and know
Speaker 3: when to pass, and that shows you growing as a player,
Speaker 3: that you'll become a better player because a lot of
Speaker 3: your shots have become easier now because they see you
Speaker 3: making the right plays.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the game, they couldn't double Tim.
Speaker 3: So not Tim just getting bucket after bucket because he
Speaker 3: was making all the right plays the first three quarters.
Speaker 3: I would tell him to go watch Tim Duncan because
Speaker 3: you still that's showing that you still have room to
Speaker 3: grow as a player and as a leader, because you
Speaker 3: have to understand when to pass. Like you said, Matt,
Speaker 3: that that is a compliment that you're getting double team
Speaker 3: and triple team, but it's also a responsibility you have
Speaker 3: as being a star playoff knowing when to pass the ball.
Speaker 3: And I think he got to watch players like Tim
Speaker 3: Duncan to learn that.
Speaker 1: I think just picking and choosing your spots, you know,
Speaker 1: as a coach, I'm telling my my guys that may
Speaker 1: get see double teams that if you get the rest
Speaker 1: of your team going, as you just said, they can't
Speaker 1: do W. If you got your shooters going and everyone
Speaker 1: else going, they can't do W. So I definitely think
Speaker 1: it's a it's going to be a learning experience for
Speaker 1: him watching Tim, watching Kobe, watching Mike, the way all
Speaker 1: these guys pick and chose their spots. What quarter? When
Speaker 1: am I going to go? When am I gonna get
Speaker 1: my guys going? I think again, I just think it
Speaker 1: was a young, frustrated comment. This team has struggled this year,
Speaker 1: you know, after what they did last year. Kat is
Speaker 1: a huge part of what is going on, and he's
Speaker 1: over here. I think he should be in the MVP
Speaker 1: conversation over there the way he's been playing for the Knicks.
Speaker 1: But this experiment with and we like Julius Randol than
Speaker 1: de Vincenzo, but it seemed like the floor's gotten tighter.
Speaker 1: Ants shooting a lot more threes, although he's making them.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's putting the pressure on the defense
Speaker 1: and allowing When he puts pressure on the defense gets
Speaker 1: the team and the bonus, he's allowing the rest of
Speaker 1: the team to eat because now every time they get fouled,
Speaker 1: they're going to the foul line. So I think it's
Speaker 1: a little fucked up over there. I think they're what's
Speaker 1: seventeen and seventeen right now, you know, nowhere near what
Speaker 1: they were at last year. But it'll be it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how he because he's the only one
Speaker 1: to get this team out of this funk, because he
Speaker 1: is the best player on that team, but he's the
Speaker 1: one of the youngest. How is he going to be
Speaker 1: able to put his team on his shoulders and figure
Speaker 1: out his game to better his team.
Speaker 2: That's the next step for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we move on, le Angelo Balls new song
Speaker 1: is popping.
Speaker 2: You heard it? I don't want to hear it?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: He can't fuck with five.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I heard a clip of it on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Somebody's making fun of it. I mean, it's just ain't
Speaker 2: my type of music.
Speaker 1: It's early two thousands. We was popping back then, though.
Speaker 2: That that didn't even give me early two thousands. What
Speaker 2: did it give you? It just to give me something.
Speaker 2: I don't want to listen to.
Speaker 1: Hey, that ship is getting streamed out. They're putting different
Speaker 1: artists on it.
Speaker 2: To him, I just ain't you know, my one stream
Speaker 2: don't matter.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna stream it. No, that ship is all
Speaker 1: over TikTok, that ship is all over Instagram.
Speaker 2: Man shout out. I don't make music.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just listened to that ship is
Speaker 1: definitely going It got him a little buzz Man. Let's
Speaker 1: see if he could parlay that into something so so
Speaker 1: there's no chance of to stack five le Angelo remix.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I wouldn't work with the brother on
Speaker 3: something else, but not that song.
Speaker 1: I'm cool because I know you're doing all the smoke
Speaker 1: volume one. He can't get up. He can't get sixteen
Speaker 1: on area.
Speaker 2: I'm working.
Speaker 1: I'm working, he can't. He can't get sixteen on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah he can, yeah, yeah, he can get a sixteen
Speaker 3: on there. Okay for sure, but it is not that song.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Now we're back with our first guest of the new year. Man,
Speaker 1: someone I became a fan of off the Netflix show
Speaker 1: Last Chance You. He coached season three and four that
Speaker 1: took place in Kansas, Man coach JB. Man, what's happened
Speaker 1: a long time Overdo I appreciate you coming through?
Speaker 2: Man? Man?
Speaker 1: The landscape of college sports has trained drastically since you
Speaker 1: stepped away. We're hearing about now JC is not counting
Speaker 1: against your clock. We're also once you go D one,
Speaker 1: we're also hearing that they're trying to give D one
Speaker 1: kids five years of eligibility. What are your thoughts because
Speaker 1: the college I won't say college footb I.
Speaker 2: Got five years. I got five three years right now, a.
Speaker 1: Lot of eligibility left. We tried to get you to Colorado,
Speaker 1: but your GPA member was Yeah, we tried to get
Speaker 1: you in Colorado. The landscape of college sports right now
Speaker 1: is nasty, and obviously nil is in that mix. It's
Speaker 1: the wild, wild West. I've always been a proponent of,
Speaker 1: you know, players need to be paid, but there's no
Speaker 1: ordinance or regulations with it. So as some who was
Speaker 1: in the space and still follows the space thoughts on
Speaker 1: just the college landscape right now.
Speaker 5: Man, shout out, Tod out Man, my boy. Obviously, I
Speaker 5: played hoop with Ed and Charles O'Bannon in high school.
Speaker 5: Ed was the one that started this whole n IL
Speaker 5: process two about a million months you played, you played
Speaker 5: with Ed Man, I'm a hooper, real quick fucking find out.
Speaker 5: I got a story that no one probably has. So
Speaker 5: in wait, I'm from Compton, obviously, I'm I'm one of
Speaker 5: one only white boy from Compton. So in eight I
Speaker 5: was the head coach at Compton College, and I grew
Speaker 5: up and I knew your boy and our boy Kawhi Leonards,
Speaker 5: Pops so he had a he had a car washed
Speaker 5: down on Wilmington and uh, in wait, the night before
Speaker 5: I saw Kawhi drop. I think like twenty two versus
Speaker 5: half high school. Who was the one seed? I think
Speaker 5: it was a sophomore. He got by them, but they
Speaker 5: had to play My boys and everybody at Compton Domingas
Speaker 5: Tyson Channel, you know all them days. Well, they lost
Speaker 5: Kawhi los but that day before his pops got rest
Speaker 5: in peace, got got shot and killed right there at
Speaker 5: the at the at the car wash. I was at
Speaker 5: that day and got to see him. Kawhi played though
Speaker 5: against the Mingas. They lost to the Mingas that night.
Speaker 5: But uh it was an interesting story man, because Mark
Speaker 5: was his pops and I know him a long time.
Speaker 5: But his pops had moved out to Riverside, where I
Speaker 5: actually currently live. And then that's with his sister. He
Speaker 5: went to Riverside king and he turned him around and
Speaker 5: his pops was telling me I got the next Kobe,
Speaker 5: and I was like, really, I'm a Kobe guy. I
Speaker 5: was like, man, Kawhi was a close thing to it
Speaker 5: though for a while. I'll tell you so he was
Speaker 5: He's back playing. So that's what brought me, brought it
Speaker 5: up Hooper Man Player and Charles, and I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: You know, I know your boys, Toby and Moose, so
Speaker 5: I know all them because I used to be at
Speaker 5: U c L all the time with Ed Charles.
Speaker 2: What usually graduated? What didusually graduate? High school?
Speaker 5: Ninety four?
Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you united? I forgot? I thought you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well yeah, now back, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: a dope. That's definitely dope and interesting and obviously rest
Speaker 1: in peace to Pops. But just the landscape of college
Speaker 1: sports right now overall nil thrown in there?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting, you said in il Man, it was
Speaker 5: supposed to be how many jerseys you sell in the
Speaker 5: student store, or if you're the dude, you the dude.
Speaker 5: Nowadays it's pay to play. It ain't in il It ain't.
Speaker 5: It ain't what it was supposed to be for. It's
Speaker 5: not name, image and likeness. And I think if you
Speaker 5: took the portal away on what the portal actually is doing,
Speaker 5: it would be all right, keep it out. It is
Speaker 5: fuck it. But the portal, a company within il has
Speaker 5: created The Wild Wild West Times.
Speaker 1: Explain the portal though, because I don't think people understand
Speaker 1: how fuck there's twenty by downstairs. There's probably what two thousand,
Speaker 1: seven thousand kids in the portal for what two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty d one's one four So due.
Speaker 5: To math, yeah, don't math. I tell people every day
Speaker 5: on my show Man, I go there's no cats around,
Speaker 5: and only one percent of those kids get out the portal, right,
Speaker 5: the other ninety nine go nowhere lost.
Speaker 1: But also to we all come from there, obviously we
Speaker 1: graduated high school in the nineties. I mean you're just
Speaker 1: running from smoke constantly. Like I had to sit my
Speaker 1: ass on the bench my freshman year at UCLA and learn,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like kids don't go through
Speaker 1: no adversity. And it's the same in the league now
Speaker 1: to our back in the day in the league where
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said, what three four years behind Brett Fall,
Speaker 1: like people used to have to come in and pay dues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pat that have to pay dues before they got that.
Speaker 1: But now that shit, we're seeing it with the girl
Speaker 1: at Rutgers, right, she just made some tweet yesterday about
Speaker 1: coach not playing and we don't know all the detail.
Speaker 1: We don't get into that, but now we're they're here.
Speaker 1: She might transfer now she's super talented freshman. But kids
Speaker 1: run from the smoke now, So like you said that,
Speaker 1: the nil mixed with the portal to me as a
Speaker 1: recipe for disaster.
Speaker 5: And it ends up biting them. In ass Man, there's
Speaker 5: a kid that was like number one kid san Diego
Speaker 5: signed with a USC out of high school years with football,
Speaker 5: basketball ball a couple of years ago, goes back home
Speaker 5: to San Diego State. All right, cool, I get that move.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna enter the porto or whatever. He has
Speaker 5: no offers now he's going to a D two in
Speaker 5: Ohio Finley. So, like you know, come on, man, that's
Speaker 5: what's happening in the ninety nine percent of the portal
Speaker 5: though that no one else talks about. They only talk
Speaker 5: about the success to the kids that make it, about
Speaker 5: percent that make the money. But seven thousand kids, one
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty four d one it on math. And now,
Speaker 5: like you said, Juco, what I'm calling Jay Prep because
Speaker 5: it's going to be the new prep, which I'm my
Speaker 5: wheels are spinning because I think that'll be where I
Speaker 5: call buddy at a D one and say, hey, man,
Speaker 5: you want this kid one for one because I got
Speaker 5: a story that no one will tell you. And this
Speaker 5: is coming from D one coaching buddies of mine. I
Speaker 5: don't think kids are going to play D one football anymore.
Speaker 5: They're gonna play JUCO for two, get an nil agent
Speaker 5: that will pay them as long as he signs with
Speaker 5: them to go to the NFL. They'll do draft, they'll
Speaker 5: do draft days for the JUCO. They'll get it gauge.
Speaker 5: At this kids are first or second round projection. Now
Speaker 5: to meet his criteria, football is different than basketball. To
Speaker 5: meet his three year out of high school criteria to go.
Speaker 1: To the NFL.
Speaker 5: Now he'll go play one for one, which will be
Speaker 5: the old basketball. He'll go one for one and now
Speaker 5: I'll hit up Texas, I'll hit up Sorry, I'll say, hey,
Speaker 5: I want a million dollars for this motherfucker. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what I'm gonna do. So now you're gonna go
Speaker 5: one year to play at a D one into the league.
Speaker 5: So that's gonna change everything.
Speaker 3: You know how many players football players, big name football
Speaker 3: players that went to junior college.
Speaker 5: If that was basketball too, bro, I got twenty eight
Speaker 5: in the league right now that played for me so
Speaker 5: more than anybody else.
Speaker 2: Eight eight one. I got full eligibility. He trying to
Speaker 2: get something. I went to junior college for two weeks.
Speaker 5: Aaron Rogers, Chad, Steve Smith, Cam everybody, Yeah, uh will
Speaker 5: will we ever see you back on go to.
Speaker 2: I doubt it.
Speaker 5: First of all, they can't pay me enough anymore. Second
Speaker 5: of all, be talking that ship. Second of all, ship,
Speaker 5: I choke one of the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You were to explain your straight you were tough? How
Speaker 1: fuck did you? Because you were old? You were tough love.
Speaker 1: You were a tough love coach. Obviously, I didn't know
Speaker 1: your backstory until you literally just told me it was
Speaker 1: from content. But you were a tough love coach and
Speaker 1: and that show was dope.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that?
Speaker 1: Like you said, twenty eight kids that you've put through
Speaker 1: a program into the pros. Like what was your philosophy
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: Hate me and I love me later? Name of my book.
Speaker 5: That's the reason I did it. This is the thing
Speaker 5: everyone that talks about me on social media and all
Speaker 5: that he's asshole white boy coaching brothers. Here's the thing.
Speaker 5: Show me at one social media tweet or Instagram post
Speaker 5: from one of my players talking about me, I'll wait.
Speaker 5: I'm still waiting because they know real, recognize real. At
Speaker 5: the end of the day, they know where I'm from.
Speaker 5: I'm as Juco as Juko get But they also knew
Speaker 5: that I wasn't gonna let them put their future in
Speaker 5: another man's hands. And unfortunately, ninety nine percent young brothers
Speaker 5: that I coached, being from where I'm from, they're putting
Speaker 5: the future in a man that has my skin tone.
Speaker 5: So I told Bobby Bruce and all the guys that
Speaker 5: were featured on that show, don't let these motherfuckers put
Speaker 5: your future in their hands. But by being late class
Speaker 5: by because you're gonna go to McDonald's get fired for
Speaker 5: missing work day one. So I had to give them
Speaker 5: the reality check of that, and that's why I think
Speaker 5: they recognized, all Right, Coach, fuck with us. He got
Speaker 5: our back no matter what. Whoop to woop. But I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be hard on your ass because the real world
Speaker 5: don't give a shit about you. So in eighteen months,
Speaker 5: when you leave me, no one's gonna remember you. But
Speaker 5: I've never had a kid arrested under my watch, never
Speaker 5: had a kid go to jail under my watch, and
Speaker 5: knock on wood, played with so many that got killed
Speaker 5: in the streets, never had to kick dying in my watch,
Speaker 5: So I was harder on them for me. So when
Speaker 5: they went to Alabama, Georgia and all these places, it
Speaker 5: was easy. So that's kind of what people don't understand nowadays.
Speaker 5: These coaches, the kids, the babies I call them, I
Speaker 5: call them babies, are the pieces of meat in the
Speaker 5: meat market. And that's purely what it is. A lot
Speaker 5: of these d one coaches, though Matt Man, I love
Speaker 5: you and woo, then you get on campus and what
Speaker 5: if Lavin just walk by your ass and what you know?
Speaker 5: How many of that those stories are. And that's another
Speaker 5: reason why you see a lot of portal kids enter
Speaker 5: into portal because these coaches, who I defend grown men
Speaker 5: for for better in their careers and and you know,
Speaker 5: getting their kids, you know, paying the bills and all that.
Speaker 5: These seventeen year olds ain't paid a fucking light bill
Speaker 5: yet or put a kid through college. So I don't
Speaker 5: equate them to a grown man moving job to job
Speaker 5: or career to career, I call it. But who am
Speaker 5: I to blame, you know, for a kid to leave
Speaker 5: if they're gonna say if the coach is going to
Speaker 5: be like, well I lie to them and fuck them,
Speaker 5: then I'm out, so that the kids are leaving like that,
Speaker 5: plus peer pressure with social media. You know you and
Speaker 5: you and Stack are both five stars at the same
Speaker 5: high school. You went tall Obama. You go to LSU.
Speaker 5: This is the reason number one reason for transferring. People
Speaker 5: don't know Stack plays at LSU as a true freshman.
Speaker 5: You read shirt that Maama as a freshman. Social media
Speaker 5: go oh man, you you you getting played? Why you
Speaker 5: ain't playing? Stat was a five star. You all played together,
Speaker 5: and that kid hit the portal.
Speaker 1: Because of the gas from the outside door, Like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: go through it. That's what it is. Crazy man. We
Speaker 1: appreciate that insight. I mean, we got some looking up
Speaker 1: where NFL season just ended. Excuse me, regular season just
Speaker 1: ended yesterday, and we got some interesting matchups. Uh this Saturday,
Speaker 1: January eleventh, the Chargers at the Texans the Chargers minus two.
Speaker 1: Who you gotten why?
Speaker 5: I got the Chargers going and then I got the
Speaker 5: Charges going on again and beating k C.
Speaker 1: In case you're jumping ahead, you're jumping ahead, Hold on.
Speaker 5: I'm going I go, I go through your whole thing.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I got the Chargers. I got the Chargers charges.
Speaker 5: I'm a TJ strod. I you know, I got to
Speaker 5: coach CJ when he was youngster. I know CJ for
Speaker 5: a long time, so call kids. I think half the
Speaker 5: NFL playoffs quarterbacks. The young ones are SoCal kidds. But
Speaker 5: the Texans are playing well, but they've hit a bump
Speaker 5: Man my former player on last chance you Tank Dell
Speaker 5: horrible injury last week. Clearly uh two players in the
Speaker 5: same damn area. Nony one wants to talk about that.
Speaker 5: But the the Chargers I got. I got a Hardball's
Speaker 5: a winner, knows what he's doing. Harball will go then
Speaker 5: in Houston. I think they'll win, and they'll end up
Speaker 5: beating Casey next too, So that's where I got there.
Speaker 5: They'll end up losing the Bills of Ravens, though, but
Speaker 5: that's where I got him.
Speaker 1: Still, Okay, Well, you see she took Steelers after Ravens
Speaker 1: Ravens minus eight and a half. You taking the Ravens
Speaker 1: at the crib.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna take the Stellers in the point.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna still as a cover right and a half,
Speaker 5: but I think they'll lose by a touchdown. But the
Speaker 5: Steelers losing for in a row, I've never seen a
Speaker 5: team go into the playoffs and then and then finally
Speaker 5: get over all the Cowboys and win again. One of
Speaker 5: my other kids, Patrick Queen for the Stellers, great kid
Speaker 5: on my show quite often. He he's got that defense balling.
Speaker 5: But Russe Wilson seems like he's hit a wall in
Speaker 5: the last few weeks. And I don't know, man, I
Speaker 5: call him Russell Weirdough. But Russell Wilson, he hit a
Speaker 5: wall man the Ravens right now, they're cooking. I think
Speaker 5: that went by touchdown. Though I think it's still don't
Speaker 5: play because of Mike Tollman. I think it's still top
Speaker 5: three poach in the league, and I think it get
Speaker 5: the most out of his team in a playoff environment.
Speaker 1: Sunday, January twelfth, we got the Broncos at the Bills.
Speaker 1: The Bills minus seven and a half.
Speaker 5: Bronco was playing well. Man got a real bit d
Speaker 5: bro Nicks. In the Rookie Year conversation, Josh Allen probably
Speaker 5: MVP with the lack of resources he has on that
Speaker 5: team versus the other MVB candidates like Lamar's who having
Speaker 5: an unbelievable here I got. I'm gonna take the Bills
Speaker 5: to win, but I think they stay closed. I think
Speaker 5: this is another that hook that point five right there.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it at seven. I think the Broncos
Speaker 5: cover the game, but that's it.
Speaker 2: On that.
Speaker 5: I think the Bills win it.
Speaker 1: Packers at Eagles Eagles minus three and a half.
Speaker 5: Man, this one's interesting. The Packers are playing Jordan Loves
Speaker 5: looks hurt to me. No one wants to talk about it.
Speaker 5: He hasn't been the same since middle of the year.
Speaker 5: Got hurt again yesterday in a game against the Bears.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna actually go with the Packers though. Man for
Speaker 5: the gott Yeah, yeah, watching I heard too, I like uh,
Speaker 5: I like the Packers on an upset man. The Eagles
Speaker 5: are good and they and all that they're loaded, they're
Speaker 5: they're playing better than anybody. Sakwan is going to regret
Speaker 5: in five years. White didn't go after Ed's record. I
Speaker 5: don't know White, but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: He's only what one hundred yards away right one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he played his old team. He's supposed to shoot
Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, last, but not least. I like this team, man.
Speaker 1: The Commanders have had a hell of a year at
Speaker 1: the Bucks. The Bucks got in yesterday with their win
Speaker 1: Bucks minus three. Who you got, man, give me a
Speaker 1: good way?
Speaker 5: Well, uh, shout out to Mike Evans getting another thousand years,
Speaker 5: Sirven right behind Jerry Rice. Jerry Right got fourteen, but
Speaker 5: Mike Man first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 5: Most underrated white out in the history of football in
Speaker 5: my opinion. Baker's playing well, but I don't know how
Speaker 5: well he performs in the lights. Are bright Man Jayden Daniels,
Speaker 5: LA kid, great kid, been around in my whole long time. Listen,
Speaker 5: he don't know better.
Speaker 1: He don't know what the Knights are.
Speaker 5: That's dangerous. Need to run and throw. You got McClaren,
Speaker 5: one of the best white outs in football. You got
Speaker 5: a good back and Robinson the defense playing well. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna take the Commanders, man.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: Knicks do like that too. Monday they got Monday playoff games.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Vikings at the Rams, Vikings minus one and a half.
Speaker 1: They coming to La.
Speaker 5: Another kid I coached with coach man Sam Darnold, who
Speaker 5: I'm the only one on record saying he was gonna
Speaker 5: have the year he's having.
Speaker 1: Do you trust him?
Speaker 2: Love?
Speaker 1: I love to come back. I love the year he's having.
Speaker 1: Do you trust it? In the playoffs though.
Speaker 5: I do trust him? Man, that yesterday's game, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna count fourteen other wins and this year against him.
Speaker 5: For that one game yesterday he looked like a deer
Speaker 5: in head lights. Though. Man, he missed him throw he
Speaker 5: shouldn't have. He had guys open yesterday. Addison's dad went
Speaker 5: to social media talking shit, I'm like the Saint Pop
Speaker 5: wanted no more Pops, stay the hell out of it.
Speaker 5: But I'm I'm a You know, here's the thing, Man,
Speaker 5: McVeigh and Stafford, who I think is the best ball
Speaker 5: spinner in football, and those two white House in the
Speaker 5: cool and cup. I think the Rams are going to
Speaker 5: win the game for sure. And I think this is
Speaker 5: a pass. This is a Penn State college football path,
Speaker 5: very very favorable to the Rams to get to a
Speaker 5: super Bowl, the.
Speaker 2: Way staff will be throwing some of the passes. Bro,
Speaker 2: He's still like that.
Speaker 5: He's different, different with those guys and McVeigh calling it.
Speaker 5: This is the unfortunate part. To your point, Matt, the
Speaker 5: Vikings and Stafford and Sam Darnold's year fuck fourteen win
Speaker 5: team is going to be a five seed and have
Speaker 5: to go on the road. I just think it needs
Speaker 5: to be reseeded. I think it's just like this college
Speaker 5: football playoff thing that I think is a joke as well.
Speaker 5: I just think this ship right here. I think the
Speaker 5: Vikings are going to be one and done unfortunately, and
Speaker 5: the Rams got a path to win. So taking the Rams.
Speaker 1: Mmmmm off season, obviously, we're jumping ahead a little bit
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have you back on throughout the playoffs
Speaker 1: because you'll be talking your ship on the playoffs side.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers, what do you see? What's going on
Speaker 1: with what's Matt?
Speaker 5: You guys you both know basketball wise, in the league,
Speaker 5: professional sports period, when you're off the field, antics trump
Speaker 5: on the field antics, We're time to go call it
Speaker 5: is to get a big ass fork and stick that
Speaker 5: ship in that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: He is done.
Speaker 5: Go do to Whywaska or whatever it it is. I
Speaker 5: like Aaron Juco guy as well, Cali guys. Well, I
Speaker 5: like nor Chico Chico from Trucky, which is right up
Speaker 5: there with them. There's a lot of Brady, Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: they're all northern Cali guys like you and all these guys.
Speaker 5: I just think it's time to give it up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I don't think he even wants to play. I'm be
Speaker 5: real with you. I don't think he wants to play.
Speaker 5: And now he's got his own young team or around him.
Speaker 5: You know, get Wilson, all these big time young kids
Speaker 5: wanting like debating if they want to leave. He got
Speaker 5: SaaS Gardener talking. Other corners went out. You don't know
Speaker 5: who your coach is. It's an owner that hasn't done
Speaker 5: ship since never. Joe Nama is wearing a mint coat
Speaker 5: on the sideline. I ain't seen it since, like is
Speaker 5: meat coat.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I think it's time to go, and I think it's
Speaker 5: time to gut the whole thing and load it up.
Speaker 5: Load it up, man, it is what.
Speaker 1: It is Cowboys, Jack, I'm gonna start here with you.
Speaker 1: Dak signed a Dak signed a four year, two twenty
Speaker 1: before the season. This is McCarthy's fifth year total one
Speaker 1: playoff win in that era. Uh, what are we doing
Speaker 1: over here? What are we doing over here?
Speaker 2: Up? What is it? I mean? Is it?
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones? I mean, I feel like outside looking in,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones wants to be the biggest star.
Speaker 2: That's that's the problem. But that's just not the guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a great guy, a great professional, you know,
Speaker 3: a great guy to hang to have as the face
Speaker 3: of your organization. But as a winning quarterback, a super
Speaker 3: Bowl quarterback, he's just not that. And they gotta get
Speaker 3: they gotta be be real with themselves. You gave him
Speaker 3: all that money, bro, and you're gonna be stuck with
Speaker 3: him not making the playoffs for the next couple of years.
Speaker 2: But he's a regular season player.
Speaker 3: What has he shown you in the playoffs that show
Speaker 3: you that he's a caliber quarterback that deserves two hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1: I'll give dealing five hundred to let him start. Save
Speaker 1: me some money.
Speaker 3: Shit, I'll put one of y'all out there before before that,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But like for real, though,
Speaker 3: like they it could be some of Jerry Jones karma too,
Speaker 3: some of his decisions he'd made, some of the things
Speaker 3: he's done back in the day. But for the most part, yeah,
Speaker 3: but for the most part, that's not to get car
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That's not the guy.
Speaker 3: I'm not even Madgine eating pork right now, because that's
Speaker 3: how I feel when we talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I feel like shit is good.
Speaker 5: Jam thoughts on the Cowboys, Bro, Jimmy Jones curse, I
Speaker 5: mean Jimmy Johnson. Sorry, Jimmy Johnson, curse got rid of him?
Speaker 1: Did him dirty?
Speaker 5: And or two back to back and yeah, who.
Speaker 2: Jimmy, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy was a I think you've never been
Speaker 5: the same since. Man, here's the thing, Dak Prescott is
Speaker 5: overpaid and under delivering.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is what it is.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush has more wins in the last two years
Speaker 5: than him, and that's the backup who they did dirty yesterday.
Speaker 5: By the way, he could have gone five hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars bonus and organization.
Speaker 2: That's jes It is what it is.
Speaker 5: That's the business. I know that a lot of that's
Speaker 5: negotiated with agents and stuff, but it is what it is.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush is uh is now got a better winning
Speaker 5: percentage than Dak Prescott. Just put it that way. Crazy,
Speaker 5: but yeah, they they got a lot of roster holes. Man,
Speaker 5: you can win with a lesser paid quarterback with extending
Speaker 5: and creating a better roster. But they're putting all their
Speaker 5: their their their their, their agent one basket with Dak
Speaker 5: and he hasn't performed one playoff win time.
Speaker 2: What it is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty nine ers were riding in high in the
Speaker 1: past few years. Couldn't get over the hump. My squad
Speaker 1: six and eleven this year obviously riddled by injuries. I
Speaker 1: think Perdy took a step forward this year.
Speaker 2: JB.
Speaker 1: Would you give him an extension? And if you did,
Speaker 1: would it be one of the big boys extension and
Speaker 1: you would kind of spoon feed him the.
Speaker 5: Extension on with Barkley And motherfucker's a bus rider. He
Speaker 5: is not a driver, And I would never pay that
Speaker 5: dude nothing. First of all, the head coach is the
Speaker 5: most overrated head coach's history of football history, most in
Speaker 5: the history of football, most overrated. He's had the most
Speaker 5: loaded rosters three years and the road's been to another
Speaker 5: one where they had Tom Brady choked out and choked
Speaker 5: that off as OC and a play caller that is
Speaker 5: who he is. That's they'll never get over the hump.
Speaker 5: And now their time is done, Matt. Their time is done.
Speaker 1: I know you do.
Speaker 5: Northern Cali in the house. I hate to say that, man,
Speaker 5: but the Niners windows done because look who's they've literally
Speaker 5: aged in front of our eyes this year. All around.
Speaker 5: The rosters will never be saying he can't you paid him?
Speaker 5: You can't pay party. If you do, then I don't
Speaker 5: know if you're gonna get a Fred Warner to come back.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're gonna get a certain guys
Speaker 5: on that roster that you need. With Kiddo and other guys,
Speaker 5: and they have no wideouts. The guy held out didn't
Speaker 5: play a snap. Really, he was really nothing. An Ayuk
Speaker 5: and then Debo has really been a figment of what
Speaker 5: he used to be. He is not getting the ball
Speaker 5: in the way that they wanted him to. Uh, he's
Speaker 5: the trade Shanahan and Purdy because Purdy is a guy
Speaker 5: that lives with the dinking dunk and when you got
Speaker 5: to throw the ball vertically and throw it in the
Speaker 5: windows anticipatory throws, he's not the guy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I like Purdy for being the story is, but this
Speaker 5: is a big boy leader's NFL. But again, NFL quarterback
Speaker 5: play is it the worst I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Jack say? He wasn't throwing deep of the ball because
Speaker 1: he started coming to the game with his throng showing well.
Speaker 5: Ship, it's a whole other era too, another.
Speaker 2: Outfit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure that.
Speaker 5: Bro, that's right, that's Devo, that's right.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of NFL former NFL players on
Speaker 5: my show every day, and we don't get it.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 1: But I mean as a fan, I mean, like you
Speaker 1: said that, the offensive weapons, but we've always had a
Speaker 1: solid defense, and I think we've always just been kind
Speaker 1: of waiting on that quarterback to take the next step
Speaker 1: with Jimmy g Purty, but it hasn't been able to come.
Speaker 5: Pay for those guys too. And you got Jennings as
Speaker 5: you're number one wide out, who's the lesser pay like
Speaker 5: make it makes sense that if him and Kittle are
Speaker 5: you only two guys, you ain't got nobody outside and
Speaker 5: Deebo's a guy you move around, get them the ball
Speaker 5: in the backfield, sweeps reverses. He ain't getting all that,
Speaker 5: and I think it's hurting him right there. So they're struggling.
Speaker 1: MVP this season. I think it kind of comes down
Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson forty one
Speaker 1: hundred yards, forty one touchdown, four picks, nine to fifteen
Speaker 1: rushing shit and what is that for tds and twelve wins?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Oh four, excuse me?
Speaker 1: Nine hundred and fifteen yards rushing for rushing touchdowns, twelve
Speaker 1: wins Allen, which I agree with the least amount of help,
Speaker 1: thirty seven hundred yards, twenty eight touches, six picks, five
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards, twelve rushing touchdowns, thirteen wins.
Speaker 2: Does Lamar have the record for most rush quarterback BLUs season?
Speaker 5: He broke it all time broke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's hard to me. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to look at Josh with his with his cast,
Speaker 1: but Lamar Jackson's numbers this year have been better than
Speaker 1: this two previous MVP seasons.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: But he is someone also, He's someone also who hasn't
Speaker 1: got it done in the playoffs. And obviously this is
Speaker 1: not a postseason award. This is an ind seed regular
Speaker 1: season award. But both you guys, Jack will start with
Speaker 1: you MVP the NFL this year.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going with Lamar, but you know it's
Speaker 3: definitely time for him to take to the next level
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl. I don't mean, I like, it's
Speaker 3: kind of hard to just to not give it to
Speaker 3: Josh because you can see, you really can see Josh
Speaker 3: Allen winning the Super Bowl like you can feel it
Speaker 3: with his play.
Speaker 2: Lamar has one of the MVP twice and still haven't delivered.
Speaker 3: So I mean, it's tough, but I would get like
Speaker 3: I said, it's a regular season to watch. I will
Speaker 3: give it to Lamar, but you gotta start holding them
Speaker 3: to the account of bibit of getting championships too. You
Speaker 3: can't just keep giving people championships when you know they're
Speaker 3: gonna be out the playoffs the first round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 5: Addition by subtractions a real thing in sports man Diggs
Speaker 5: got out of there and I told it. I said
Speaker 5: it before last year when he got rid of Digs
Speaker 5: in Buffalo, that Josh Allo have his best season. He
Speaker 5: is because he ain't got to worry about second guests
Speaker 5: and bitch in the morning about getting me the rock
Speaker 5: blah blah whoop. And he's done it with basically nobody
Speaker 5: at wipe out me. You and stack, So I think
Speaker 5: what he's done, and now Lamar Lamar beat him head on,
Speaker 5: head to head.
Speaker 1: Don't put me in there, put you in Jack and
Speaker 1: that ship. I'm out there working.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you're a tight end. You're a tight end, Lamar.
Speaker 5: You know this is the thing. Lamar beat him, had
Speaker 5: the head. That'll probably count a little bit when they
Speaker 5: do this. But last year, Lamar, I thought, had the
Speaker 5: work first MVP season of any former winner. Statistically speaking,
Speaker 5: he did. Josh Allen had better status last year than
Speaker 5: this year. So it's kind of how they do this thing. Man,
Speaker 5: I'd say they don't let Lamar get it just because
Speaker 5: of what they say in the narrative and whatever they
Speaker 5: call fatigue and all that shit. I think Josh Allen
Speaker 5: will get it, but either one in this In this case,
Speaker 5: I just think Josh is.
Speaker 1: Doing more with less.
Speaker 5: And then you had Derrick Henry which helped him, which
Speaker 5: helped Lamar. Absolutely, this is this is just it's gonna
Speaker 5: be a it's gonna be interesting playoff. I think those
Speaker 5: who play for the AFC title anyway, So I wish
Speaker 5: they would wait, Yeah, and then MVP is the winner
Speaker 5: of that ship.
Speaker 2: They don't do that.
Speaker 1: Our partners over at DraftKings have Josh Allen a minus
Speaker 1: five hundred favor while Lamar Jackson a second at plus
Speaker 1: three fifty. Before we get Trau to your JP. Where
Speaker 1: could the people find you?
Speaker 2: Man?
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Speaker 1: So JB Man, we appreciate you man, best of luck
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Speaker 1: No doubt, appreciate it. Appreciate you last but not least
Speaker 1: New year, same hate. Let's welcome to the show. Socialmedia
Speaker 1: is very old fan favorite. My god Gino the neighborhood
Speaker 1: hater Davis's man Jack is here today. Yeah, per.
Speaker 4: Personally hating the comments is getting me back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man and the person in the building here. How
Speaker 1: are you and Jack lately? Since you've been starting to
Speaker 1: become a star on this show, what's your relationship be
Speaker 1: like with Jackie? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know this nigga many So.
Speaker 1: That's why there's a little fixture right here.
Speaker 2: Money.
Speaker 3: So let's put that out there first. But that's what
Speaker 3: I do. I do own money, but I don't know
Speaker 3: if I owe him money.
Speaker 4: At the same time, let me ask you this, though,
Speaker 4: would I've owed you the two hundred cush ups if
Speaker 4: I would have missed?
Speaker 3: No, no, because I want to see you here a
Speaker 3: real night.
Speaker 2: I want to see it from a human being. You
Speaker 2: weren't gonna make me give you the two hundred push ups.
Speaker 2: If if I.
Speaker 1: Would have absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I wasn't even there.
Speaker 4: G he would have I wasn't there anyway that she
Speaker 4: just took away all my nervousness right.
Speaker 1: Now, sources system sources close to the program, if told
Speaker 1: me that the Lakers heard Gino was tired of d
Speaker 1: Lo and got him out of there. For you, de Look,
Speaker 1: I traded Delo's gone because of Delo's gone, because of Geno.
Speaker 1: He's with the nets And Finney Smith came over in exchange.
Speaker 1: And who was the other one? Shake shake Milton a
Speaker 1: crispy product. If I'm not mistaken. He went to where
Speaker 1: the twins go to school like, Yeah, Lakers the seven
Speaker 1: three since that trade.
Speaker 2: That's what NBA names Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That was funny. That was allo funny. Through Uh thoughts
Speaker 1: on trade Lakers just seven and three in their last ten, fourth,
Speaker 1: currently in in a in a tough West excuse me, fifth,
Speaker 1: currently in a tough Western conference. Thoughts on them listening
Speaker 1: to you and getting deal this year.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, come on, man, all right, I hope
Speaker 4: you wasn't gonna say that ship, but I did tell you, guys,
Speaker 4: first was the first point in business.
Speaker 1: They heard you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got him out of here.
Speaker 1: They heard this show and got him out.
Speaker 4: Yes, didn't make us better yet. We're gonna see DFS
Speaker 4: and shake. You know, they just got here. They've been
Speaker 4: here a couple of games. Uh, they're going to move
Speaker 4: the needle for us maybe, but I think we still
Speaker 4: got some work to do in the trade.
Speaker 1: I mean, since since they since they're listening to you,
Speaker 1: I mean, what else what at this point would you
Speaker 1: like to see done?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know me, man, I'm a I'm here
Speaker 2: for dearon Fox.
Speaker 1: Oh like you would love to see the aeron y'all
Speaker 1: could have got him. Y'all could have I take him too.
Speaker 2: I know that overlooked what's his name? Baul? Yeah a Lonzo?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, whoever? But I feel like, what would.
Speaker 1: You be willing to give up to get deer Fox.
Speaker 4: Two or about three in a couple of first rounders?
Speaker 1: So Austin reeves pick pick.
Speaker 2: Out of him?
Speaker 4: Also back no for dear Fox Alonzo ruye yep, r
Speaker 4: like pick pick two and get the funk out of here,
Speaker 4: right because we have to make a change no matter
Speaker 4: what happens.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard dearon Fox to the Lakers, but
Speaker 1: that deeron Fox Lebron and.
Speaker 4: A d is that's just my wish list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Christmas is over, but yeah I'm not mad at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a couple of first rounders and a couple first
Speaker 1: one he's gonna leave any of the deer Fox wants out,
Speaker 1: is what I've been hearing. Yeah, yeah, he's out on
Speaker 1: the contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to let's get Jimmy.
Speaker 1: He's too right, you want so you would like to
Speaker 1: possibly see Jimmy and.
Speaker 2: Like white shine, that can make it happen. But why
Speaker 2: not y'all need somebody tough over there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely Jimmy wouldn't be a bad fit for.
Speaker 4: Jimmy comes over here. They're talking about he can't get
Speaker 4: his money right, like he's not getting his extension. He'd
Speaker 4: come in here, be mad, plays hard out for us.
Speaker 4: You never know what happened. Would he do that? I
Speaker 4: got a nice big house out here too.
Speaker 2: I know it. Yeah, well we'll see.
Speaker 4: I don't know who. I don't know who else can
Speaker 4: come in and move a needle for us, except.
Speaker 1: Nate's being the producer hater. You're the neighborhood hater. But
Speaker 1: he's shaking his head at everything you're saying back here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nate shakes his head on everything I say, no
Speaker 4: matter on camera off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'm wishful, wishless, Yes, wishless.
Speaker 1: Kawhi is back. Kawhi is back the first I said it,
Speaker 1: first game back, twelve points. Thoughts on your your your
Speaker 1: crosstown favorites. Uh, finally getting Kawhi back in the saddle,
Speaker 1: and and and you know, I think he Lou has
Speaker 1: done a great job at coaching this squad this year.
Speaker 1: What could the Clippers do with a Kawhi that works
Speaker 1: his way back into shape? The second half of the seat.
Speaker 4: I mean the Clippers are good without him, Yes, they
Speaker 4: been playing well without que so we're gonna know, like
Speaker 4: if what his impact is when he gets back. Now,
Speaker 4: they are the Clippers. I don't give a shit about them.
Speaker 4: I hope I hope they fall off. But Kawhi, I mean,
Speaker 4: we'll see. He hasn't played this year. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: I'm not even I don't even have anything to.
Speaker 1: Say about the Paul George situation so far hasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: paid off dividends in Philly, Like I think they thought it, Well,
Speaker 1: what do you see over there? What's the any issues
Speaker 1: over there?
Speaker 2: Game has been baling who James? Oh? Who Harden? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they're where they are though, That's why
Speaker 4: they compete every night. But Paul, I think he made
Speaker 4: the wrong decision to go to Philly. Probably should have
Speaker 4: went to go to State, someone who where he could
Speaker 4: be more impactful. I don't think he even knew that
Speaker 4: in bids.
Speaker 2: Who he was. And what is EMBIID lazy? Right?
Speaker 4: Isn't that what the word is on EMBIID what they're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he doesn't like to play back to back games
Speaker 4: all kind of weird shit.
Speaker 2: That he does.
Speaker 1: But super talented though.
Speaker 4: And mak him fifty plus, I believe.
Speaker 3: See that's when they met him. Growing up playing basketball,
Speaker 3: you grow up getting in love for. But he didn't
Speaker 3: play till later on. He didn't start playing to later
Speaker 3: on in life. As a kid you grow up with
Speaker 3: and find the love for the game. You just start
Speaker 3: playing like it is at eighteen nineteen and is making money.
Speaker 3: You ain't got no love for you, planning for a job,
Speaker 3: right Jackson, that's him right now.
Speaker 1: There's still plenty of time. We're not quite to the
Speaker 1: halfway point. Can the Sixers turn this around?
Speaker 2: I say no? I say no, speaking of.
Speaker 1: Harden twenty one, eight and six silently having a very
Speaker 1: solid seasons as the main focal point. And maybe there
Speaker 1: was just too many people on that team, three guys
Speaker 1: that are ball dominant somewhat with him, PG and Kawhi.
Speaker 1: You know, now Kawi's back, PG is gone and James's
Speaker 1: still at his age? What is he thirty four? How
Speaker 1: was James Harden thirty four, thirty four years old, silently
Speaker 1: solidly leading this team. Clippers and the Lakers actually have
Speaker 1: the same record without Kawhi, without Kawhi, so you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see what he.
Speaker 2: Does for them. But that says about the Lakers. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: what does that say about the Lakers? They were med.
Speaker 1: So there's seeds in the bag when they when you
Speaker 1: buy a Lakers, when you buy that Laker.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But but I mean everybody outside of Okay See
Speaker 4: in the West has a chance to win. Yeah, all
Speaker 4: the way from two, all the way down to ten.
Speaker 4: So I don't feel bad about us as bad as
Speaker 4: I did last week.
Speaker 2: Thirty five makes it even better.
Speaker 1: Just want to give a quick shout out to our
Speaker 1: bruined sister Natalie Nicasse, who is the Valkyrie head coach,
Speaker 1: the new team in the Bay Area.
Speaker 2: She played at u C.
Speaker 1: L A when me and Ray were there, and uh man,
Speaker 1: she was assistant coach with the Clippers when I was there.
Speaker 1: So shout out to Nat. Continue to do your thing.
Speaker 1: We'll come check out a couple of games with you
Speaker 1: guys this year. But best of luck in the w
Speaker 1: n B A that's starting to really pop and talking.
Speaker 4: Ship real quick. Man with the Twins man and Cresby
Speaker 4: man working you quiet on the sideline, that must mean
Speaker 4: they're hooping out.
Speaker 1: Well, they put a muzzle on me.
Speaker 2: Bro not really the bullshit.
Speaker 1: They suspended me from the playoff games last year, you know,
Speaker 1: So they put a muzzle and then I had to
Speaker 1: I had to go to the principal's office at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season at Cresby and they told me
Speaker 1: I had to get my shit together. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm there. It's crazy. It's crazy Jack, the way they
Speaker 1: did me at that Harbor Westlake thing. But twins have
Speaker 1: been playing teams fifteen and four. If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Isaiah's over here floating around triple doubles now that's his
Speaker 1: new thing. He's trying to get triple doubles every game.
Speaker 1: Carter led the team scoring last game with twenty one.
Speaker 1: They got a big game. They got Tyron Stokes and
Speaker 1: Notre Dame on Wednesday at Crespy at the cribs, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna see, man, they got a nice point guard over. Obviously,
Speaker 1: to me, Tyron Stokes was one of the most complete
Speaker 1: high school basketball players in the country. The Twins were
Speaker 1: actually supposed to go to Notre Dame before Derek took
Speaker 1: the job of Cresby and they transferred over to Crespy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had his junior went over to Notre was that
Speaker 1: Notre Dame too, So yeah, that'll be a big one
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. But it's been a good season, man. You know,
Speaker 1: the Twins are playing well, the team is playing well.
Speaker 1: It took a little bit to find their chemistry. They lost,
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Sterling went over to Harvard Westlake. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Joe and what they've been able to do.
Speaker 1: Their top ten in the country now after that tournament
Speaker 1: in Arizona. So yeah, their top ten in the country.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the Mission League is tough, man.
Speaker 1: It's it's Harvard West Lake, it's Notre Dame, it's Sierra
Speaker 1: Canyon who always has super athletes in the jumping, and
Speaker 1: then you know there's Crespy in there trying to get
Speaker 1: it done. So we will see a good job too, man.
Speaker 1: Now Fish is definitely Yeah. Year two for Fish, he's
Speaker 1: done a much better job. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: to his credit, it's tough, man. You go from coaching
Speaker 1: NBA players to w NBA players to high school players.
Speaker 1: There's just such a huge difference that I think sometimes
Speaker 1: last year he would give them the grace, he would
Speaker 1: give pros and you know kids need a little bit
Speaker 1: more guidance in structure, but you know, hats off to him.
Speaker 1: He's definitely done a lot better job this year of
Speaker 1: just kind of managing the game and understanding that you're
Speaker 1: dealing with these teenage teenage kids. So Crespy's doing well, man.
Speaker 1: But you know, now the league starts, so we go
Speaker 1: see what happens. But we will be at the game
Speaker 1: enjoying it on Wednesday. And thank you for your time today, sir.
Speaker 1: I'm glad so I would love to see. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Jack's paying you or what's going to go
Speaker 1: on today, but hopefully you guys can get back on track.
Speaker 2: Just because he his word, that's how he is.
Speaker 1: He's a man of his word.
Speaker 4: Straight up, stand up god I've ever known from him,
Speaker 4: so anything else will be different.
Speaker 2: So get your kids.
Speaker 1: Hey, that was fake. That was fake gasson right there.
Speaker 2: The street bullshit, look at my half.
Speaker 1: Tell the UK see before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: It's playoff time, baby, what was on? Right? We'll check
Speaker 1: my record for the season and get back to you guys.
Speaker 1: But the playoffs are here, and here are my picks
Speaker 1: for this week's playoffs. Chargers at the Texans Chargers minus two.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Chargers minus two and a half.
Speaker 1: Chargers minus two and a half. Going into Texas Steelers
Speaker 1: at the Ravens minus eight half, It's a lot of
Speaker 1: points in the playoff game, a lot of points in
Speaker 1: the playoff game. I'm gonna take.
Speaker 2: Damn. Gotta take the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna win by that much, but
Speaker 1: I gotta take them. So going with the Ravens. Sunday,
Speaker 1: Packers at the Eagles Eagles minus three and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna listen to coach jb I'm gonna ahead
Speaker 1: and take the Eagles minus three and a half. And last,
Speaker 1: but not least, the Broncos at the Bills. The Bills
Speaker 1: minus seven and a half. And that's a lot of points,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take Josh Allen to not only get
Speaker 1: this dub but be the NFL.
Speaker 2: MVP this year.
Speaker 1: That's a rat for this week's Unplugged First Show twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five season. We appreciate you guys tuning in. Stay tuned, man,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun season this year on Unplugged.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys and we'll see you next week.