WEBVTT - How a Fed Bank Distributes Its Billions of Dollars in Cash

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<v Speaker 4>the door now we can go to the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Door, deep underground, coming through elevator. The sort of monochrome quietness,

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<v Speaker 2>the uniforms. This kind of reminds me of severance a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Has anyone made that observation before?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of the All Thoughts Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tracy Alloway.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the one where we get severed? Tracy my

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<v Speaker 2>name is Jill Wisenthal, and I freely consent to being severed. Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not getting the severance procedure, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>about to go to a place that not many people

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<v Speaker 1>get to see. We are going deep into the vaults

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<v Speaker 1>of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago to tour its

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<v Speaker 1>cash operations and get an inside look at how money

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<v Speaker 1>is actually distributed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, yes, okay, welcome to cash. In this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>we take a walk through the basement of the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>FED and we learn all about how the central bank

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<v Speaker 2>processes and delivers cash. Cash operations will not quote highly

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<v Speaker 2>classified like in the inner workings of the office and

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<v Speaker 2>the show Severance. They're well beyond the public eye for

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<v Speaker 2>obvious reasons. So this is a rare look or listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess at the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're not actually allowed to take any pictures

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<v Speaker 1>or videos inside the vaults, So an audio format actually

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<v Speaker 1>does pretty well here. And this is all really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because we're used to thinking about the FED in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of monetary policy, raising or cutting interest rates to try

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<v Speaker 1>to keep inflation in check and unemployment low, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like bank regulation. Of course, we talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about that on the show. All of that can feel

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<v Speaker 1>very theoretical, but there's this very physical side to the

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<v Speaker 1>FED as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's totally right. The cash in your wallet has got

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<v Speaker 2>to come from somewhere, right, and a lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>comes from the FED, or at least it moves through

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<v Speaker 2>one of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks, the Bureau of

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<v Speaker 2>Engraving and actually makes the money, and then it gets

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<v Speaker 2>delivered and processed through the FED banks and the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>FED building itself.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of looks exactly like how you

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<v Speaker 1>might picture an old fashioned bank. It has these giant,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful neo classical columns on the outside and inside inside

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<v Speaker 1>is where the magic happens.

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<v Speaker 4>We set up a system in the United States with

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<v Speaker 4>twelve reserve banks around the country because in nineteen thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>as today, people were deeply uncomfortable with the financial system

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<v Speaker 4>being run exclusively by New York City and Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 4>So they wanted input from all around the country. And

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<v Speaker 4>one component of the job is monetary policy, like we

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<v Speaker 4>talk about all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Austin Gouldsby, President of the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've probably heard him on the podcast. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times before, very recognizable voice, and he's usually you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the macro environment, monetary policy, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you're going to hear him talk about something

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<v Speaker 1>very different, being the bank behind the banks, the one

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<v Speaker 1>that actually provides them with cold, hard cash.

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<v Speaker 4>We're also a real, live, working bank, and we got

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen eighteen hundred employees. We are a bank two banks,

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<v Speaker 4>and they have a master account. We pay interest on

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<v Speaker 4>their deposits into that account, which our bank reserves, and

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<v Speaker 4>we provide FED wire. We do ach direct deposit, we

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<v Speaker 4>do FED now and one of the things we do

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<v Speaker 4>is cash. It's one of the FED financial services. And

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<v Speaker 4>so if one of our member banks wants cash for

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<v Speaker 4>their ATMs, they'll send in and say, just like you

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<v Speaker 4>in your account, you go down the ATM, you take

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<v Speaker 4>some cash out. They say, we want cash to put

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<v Speaker 4>in our ATM, so take that out of our master account.

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<v Speaker 4>They send a brainstruck over here and they place an order.

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<v Speaker 4>We count it out, we give it to them. If

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<v Speaker 4>they have too much currency, they send it to us

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<v Speaker 4>in the same brainstruck. We take it in, we run

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<v Speaker 4>it through machines, we count it, we pull out anything

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<v Speaker 4>that's been signed, or somebody spit on it, or you

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<v Speaker 4>know it's dirty and shred it. We process it, put

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<v Speaker 4>it in our vaults, send it out the next day,

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<v Speaker 4>and we get a bunch of shipments of brand new

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<v Speaker 4>money from the Bureau engraving and printing. So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>very live operation and you're going to see it. There

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<v Speaker 4>are a lot of people work there, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of machinery, and it's pretty neat.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty neat is putting it mildly, because it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>that Austin and Lusts giving the tours of the cash shop,

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<v Speaker 2>something that was totally evident while we did it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people on finance and economics love money, but

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<v Speaker 2>Austin really loves money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So join me and Joe and Austin on this

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<v Speaker 1>special edition of odd Blots as we follow how money

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<v Speaker 1>actually moves through the Federal Reserve system. We are standing

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<v Speaker 1>in the lobby of the Chicago Fed building. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful staircase and a balcony that looks down on this

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous atrium. Apparently there used to be machine guns mounted

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<v Speaker 1>up there, and now there's security guards at the entrance,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed's own police force.

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<v Speaker 2>And as Austin mentioned earlier, the Chicago FED was established

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fourteen, and back then investors didn't have much

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<v Speaker 2>reassurance that their bank deposits were, you know, actually safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And after months of back and forth, Congress passed the

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Reserve Act, establishing the FED Reserve System and the

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<v Speaker 2>twelve reserve banks that cover the entire.

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<v Speaker 1>Country, and the Chicago FED covers parts of Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>and the state of Iowa. And as we've said before,

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<v Speaker 1>we are used to talking about whether the FED is

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<v Speaker 1>doing a good job on things like inflation and unemployment,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't actually talk that much about its other

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<v Speaker 1>big job, which is managing the money.

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<v Speaker 5>We know when we're doing a good job when you

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<v Speaker 5>can go to an ATM and there's money in it.

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<v Speaker 5>You can go to a grocery store and you can

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<v Speaker 5>pay in cash and they have changed to give you

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<v Speaker 5>in currency.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Kepler is an executive vice president of the district's

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<v Speaker 2>Cash Operation and the Chicago FED Central Bank Service Area.

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<v Speaker 5>So essentially I oversee the full currency operation between our

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<v Speaker 5>Chicago and Detroit offices that includes everything from processing the

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<v Speaker 5>currency on the high speed machines to paying our orders

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<v Speaker 5>to financial institutions in our district and taking money in.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though we live in a world that's full of

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<v Speaker 1>digital payment systems, cash still plays a role in everyday transactions.

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<v Speaker 2>Cash is Lindy, that's right, Jo.

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<v Speaker 5>It's extremely important. So you know, think about things like

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<v Speaker 5>hurricanes or weather related events or power outages where electronic

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<v Speaker 5>payments don't work. In fact, I was in the store

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<v Speaker 5>the other day and their credit card system was down,

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<v Speaker 5>and fortunately I had cash in my pocket, so I

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<v Speaker 5>was able to jump the line and get my stuff

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<v Speaker 5>and get out the door while theres were kind of

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<v Speaker 5>waiting for the credit card machine to pop back up.

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<v Speaker 5>So it is very important, and not all consumers use

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<v Speaker 5>just one payment type. So in fact, you can imagine

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<v Speaker 5>in today's times, electronic payments, debit cards credit cards are

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<v Speaker 5>the primary two vehicles that folks use for transactions, but

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<v Speaker 5>cash is a third, very close third for payments.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, the thing is as the share of payments

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<v Speaker 4>that are made electronically mobile banking using cards rises, people

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<v Speaker 4>have this tendency to say, oh, well there is no cash.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even see cash. If you go look, you

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<v Speaker 4>and you can look off fred. It's on there. Currency

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<v Speaker 4>and circulation as a share of GDP is over ten percent,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's among the highest percent on record, or at

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<v Speaker 4>least since the nineteen eighties that you can find on FRED.

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<v Speaker 4>That's double what it was in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like four times higher as a percent than it

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<v Speaker 4>was forty years ago. And it's shockingly large per person.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like forty eight hundred dollars per person on average

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<v Speaker 4>in money.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe, I don't know about you, but I always keep

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<v Speaker 1>four eight hundred dollars in cash just in case I

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<v Speaker 1>have to spontaneously buy, like I don't know, a MacBook

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<v Speaker 1>Pro or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Emergency lumber purchases, maybe a thousand chickens for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, Hi, teat to.

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<v Speaker 4>The amazing Ami Colorado.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting into the basement where the Chicago Fed's cash ops

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<v Speaker 1>actually are is a process.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of cameras, there's a lot of security,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's a lot of rules. So don't don't go

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<v Speaker 4>fishing in your pockets, don't pull out your wallet while.

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<v Speaker 1>We're right So there's no putting your hands in your pockets,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not allowed to carry anything with you after

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<v Speaker 1>going down in the elevator. I'm not even sure what

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<v Speaker 1>floor we're actually on, and we have to pass through

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<v Speaker 1>multiple security doors before we get here.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we do get there, it's pretty cool. We're

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<v Speaker 2>in the transfer area where money comes in and processing begins.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, there's money everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're standing next to a big box filled with cash.

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<v Speaker 1>How much would be in something like that?

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty is roughly eight and a half million.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Joe, grab it quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you'll see a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 6>As we walk around today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Amy Elvarado, the bank's vice president of district Cash Operations.

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<v Speaker 2>She oversees the entire process.

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<v Speaker 6>Our team will go in the room and check all

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<v Speaker 6>of the bags as the armored carriers drop them off.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll make sure all the bags are intact and sealed

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<v Speaker 6>and everything. We'll count them. We're doing this bag count

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<v Speaker 6>and then we're signing off on it. That's when we

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<v Speaker 6>would release the carriers, and that's the transfer process coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a long hallway stretching out in front of us.

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<v Speaker 1>The walls are white and there's rooms on either side

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<v Speaker 1>that have large windows and glass doors. In fact, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most striking things about this place is just

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<v Speaker 1>how much you can see.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is seen through, even the doors. Amy and Austin

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<v Speaker 2>tell us that transparency is paramount to the security of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole operation, giving that they're dealing with, you know, cash.

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<v Speaker 6>A reason why these doors are clear is because we

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<v Speaker 6>are never in the room with these carriers. At the

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<v Speaker 6>same time. The carriers will come in onto the concourse,

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<v Speaker 6>they will unload their currency bags onto rolling screens, as

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<v Speaker 6>we call them, They will put them in the room,

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<v Speaker 6>they will go back out the other side of the room.

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<v Speaker 6>When our team comes in the room, they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 6>watch us flip all those bags because it's still theirs

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<v Speaker 6>at this point. And once we do that, we'll bring

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<v Speaker 6>the work in. But when we transfer work back out

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<v Speaker 6>to them, same process happens. We go in the room,

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<v Speaker 6>we drop off the currency, we come out. They come in,

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<v Speaker 6>so we all need to be able to see through

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<v Speaker 6>the glass of the transfer process happening.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these security rules apply to employees too.

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<v Speaker 4>People wear smocks, there are no pockets when they go in.

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<v Speaker 4>The colors indicate who's doing what role. And we have

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<v Speaker 4>very very good hygiene in an accounting.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense, and it's a tough job. Cash, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty we have you when you're piling up millions

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<v Speaker 1>of bills, millions of physical bills. The Chicago FED process

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<v Speaker 1>is something like five point five million pieces a day,

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<v Speaker 1>and the actual currency value of that can be higher

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the denomination of the notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Once the money comes into the FED, the cash is

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<v Speaker 2>brought into a receiving room, which is down another floor

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<v Speaker 2>of the basement. This room looks very similar to the

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<v Speaker 2>transfer room.

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<v Speaker 1>And getting cash into the FED is just the first

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<v Speaker 1>part of this process.

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<v Speaker 6>We would now open the bags and make sure we

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<v Speaker 6>have the correct amount of bundles in each bag. And

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<v Speaker 6>a bundle, as I'll point out, is what you see

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<v Speaker 6>in these containers. They look like little bricks.

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<v Speaker 2>It like a brick of cash, like a brick of.

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<v Speaker 6>Cash, and it is ten straps of one hundred notes,

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<v Speaker 6>so one thousand notes per bundle or brick as it

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<v Speaker 6>looks like. And so we open those deposits up, we

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<v Speaker 6>make sure we have the correct number of bundles, and

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<v Speaker 6>this is where we're entering in the deposit ticket, and

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<v Speaker 6>we're making sure that all of the account is correct

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<v Speaker 6>at the bundle level and then all of the work

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<v Speaker 6>out of these rooms gets stored by denomination into containers

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<v Speaker 6>where they will be stored in vaults until it's time

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<v Speaker 6>for their piece count verification.

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<v Speaker 2>We make our way through more long, stretching hallways until

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<v Speaker 2>we get to a room where there are a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of workers sorting through a bunch of cash, and most strikingly,

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<v Speaker 2>a big machine that takes up most of the room

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<v Speaker 2>with a computer on the left side and stacks of

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<v Speaker 2>money neatly sitting on top of the tables. They call

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<v Speaker 2>this a high speed room.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's specifically and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sound of cash being that is hard measured.

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<v Speaker 6>That is the sound of the currency going into the machine,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's singling those notes. So there's stacks of hundreds, right,

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<v Speaker 6>they're going into that machine and they're kind of getting

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<v Speaker 6>stacked on a rake, and it is really pulling those

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<v Speaker 6>notes at rapid pace and then sending them singly one

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<v Speaker 6>by one through the machines.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not quite fed money intergo burr, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is a high speed money processor go burr.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people are going to be disappointed that the FED

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<v Speaker 2>is not literally printing the cash.

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<v Speaker 6>Certainly, we're imaging every strap that comes in here on

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<v Speaker 6>the currency, so that information relates back to the banks

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<v Speaker 6>that's sent it in, so we have that information. If

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<v Speaker 6>there's any disputes, we certainly send that out to our

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<v Speaker 6>financial institutions. The machine will cut the straps off and

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<v Speaker 6>then take each individual note, run it through our sensors,

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<v Speaker 6>and it will make rapid decisions on whether it is

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<v Speaker 6>fit for circulation or it would be shred or if

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<v Speaker 6>it needs to have another look.

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<v Speaker 1>So the sensors would be looking for things like if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a mark on it, or a terror or that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct, it's checking the fitness level, so is it clean,

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<v Speaker 6>is it soiled. It's checking the authenticity of it. It

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<v Speaker 6>is checking that it's the correct denomination. So it's looking

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<v Speaker 6>at all of those things very rapidly.

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<v Speaker 2>Does human judgment ever come into this or can it

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<v Speaker 2>just be one hundred percent determined?

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<v Speaker 6>So any items that are rejected on the machine will

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<v Speaker 6>go to a secondary process where the operators will handle

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<v Speaker 6>notes by hand. They will feed them again through another

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<v Speaker 6>set of sensors and it'll take that read. But the

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<v Speaker 6>end determination on things like counterfeits are our staff are

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<v Speaker 6>trained on counterfeits, they're tested on counterfeits, and they do

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<v Speaker 6>make those decisions as they're looking at those notes. So

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<v Speaker 6>as you can see the large machine we talked about

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<v Speaker 6>here at the end of the machine, and this tube

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<v Speaker 6>that's going up into the ceiling, you can see the

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<v Speaker 6>fluttering in that clear window looks like a bank drive

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<v Speaker 6>up tu more pharmacy tube. That's where the shreds are

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<v Speaker 6>exiting our floor to go to our bricketder. That's what

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<v Speaker 6>it sounds like when they don't roll straight.

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<v Speaker 4>Notice the wall guards.

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<v Speaker 6>We have our bumpers for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens to all the shredded money? I know you

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<v Speaker 1>sell some in like the gift shops.

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<v Speaker 4>Well we give it a well give it away, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>We definitely want some. But like what happens to the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of it Here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's sent out for recycling. Most FED offices send it

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<v Speaker 6>out to be recycled.

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<v Speaker 2>Recycled back into future bills.

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<v Speaker 6>No, here it's turned into some sort of fuel. We

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<v Speaker 6>send it out and at other feds it's different to

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<v Speaker 6>know one of the fed's condos.

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<v Speaker 2>Once the cash is all processed and sorted, it gets

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<v Speaker 2>stored in the bank's vaults.

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<v Speaker 1>And these vaults are huge. They look straight out of

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<v Speaker 1>a movie, think Ocean's Eleven, but bigger.

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<v Speaker 4>So as we locked it in, you got to lower

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<v Speaker 4>the floor or the door cannot shut.

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<v Speaker 2>Each door weighs like eighty thousand pounds and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to drop the floor to actually be able to open

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<v Speaker 2>and shut them. So you just sort of have envision that.

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<v Speaker 4>If they tell you to keep your hands and arms

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<v Speaker 4>inside the car at all times, you do it.

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<v Speaker 7>In this one, the vaults are over one hundred years

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<v Speaker 7>old now, and it took over two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 7>trips to transfer the Chicago Fed's entire cash holdings from

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<v Speaker 7>their previous location to this new site.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the wheel gets turning, relaxing in place.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's got kind of a master and commander's ship

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<v Speaker 4>wheel field to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's the combination to a man, there's multiple. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we turn the dials on the combination so that way

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<v Speaker 2>it sets it back for the next business day, so

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<v Speaker 2>no one could just come.

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<v Speaker 7>In and open it.

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<v Speaker 2>As we walk around these halls. Down deep in the basement,

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<v Speaker 2>they're screens showing live streams of outside of the FED.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill You could see the streets and sidewalks outside the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that showing a video of the outside.

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<v Speaker 6>So that is what we call the windows to the world, because,

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<v Speaker 6>as Austin mentioned, we are in the basement and we

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<v Speaker 6>want to know if it's raining, and instead of calling

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<v Speaker 6>Austin to ask him if it's raining, we have our

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<v Speaker 6>own windows.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have windows. We got a second basement, a

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<v Speaker 4>third basement, and you want to know is it's sunny.

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<v Speaker 6>Or Okay, So we're gonna come around the corner here

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<v Speaker 6>and then we're gonna step inside. This is considered a

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<v Speaker 6>working vault, so you follow me in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the vaults, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 6>And so what we have in here are two more

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<v Speaker 6>paying rooms, just like we talked about outside, and then

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<v Speaker 6>this vault it has these working rooms and then we

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<v Speaker 6>have inventory storage. You can see some of our leadership

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<v Speaker 6>is in here doing some work right now. But this

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<v Speaker 6>is where we have the new inventory stored, as well

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<v Speaker 6>as some fit inventory and some of the orders that

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<v Speaker 6>will go out tomorrow. Where the smell is.

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<v Speaker 4>The strongest, right, Yeah, you just smell that smell.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a fresh money.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fresh money.

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<v Speaker 1>The smell fresh money in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>This is probably what I remember most about the experience,

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<v Speaker 2>the smell of new money. This is where the FED

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<v Speaker 2>keeps bills ready for distribution to banks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in a room with millions of dollars in it,

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<v Speaker 1>that smell is strong. This is the room where you

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<v Speaker 1>really get to appreciate the physical aspects of money, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, dollars aren't just green. When they're

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<v Speaker 1>all stacked up, you start to see there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>range of colors in there. And of course there's that smell.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good smell.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And it's funny for the longer you work here,

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<v Speaker 6>there is a thing really about nose blind because oh,

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<v Speaker 6>I've heard you. You don't really pick it up as

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<v Speaker 6>much anymore as our visitors are always like, what is

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<v Speaker 6>that smell?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to the bureau engraving and printing. One of

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<v Speaker 4>my quests was where does this smell? Command is it?

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<v Speaker 4>The paper is in the wood and there are big

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<v Speaker 4>buckets of the green ink, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the smell.

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<v Speaker 1>And this room is where the fit money, All the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's been processed by the high speed machine gets

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<v Speaker 1>paid out chines.

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<v Speaker 6>That machine creates fit inventory, and that's on the right

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<v Speaker 6>side of the room. Here on the left side of

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<v Speaker 6>the room. Are there orders that they're going to be

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<v Speaker 6>paying out tomorrow, So our allocator will pull the orders

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<v Speaker 6>like a grocery list. Those orders get downloaded. We have

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<v Speaker 6>a list of how many bundles they want of each denomination.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll fill it like a grocery list. They'll put the

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<v Speaker 6>inventory on the table and then the verifier will confirm

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<v Speaker 6>blindly that count will enter that work in. Once that

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<v Speaker 6>count is balanced, they will bag it and tag it,

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<v Speaker 6>put into their containers by armored carrier, and then that

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<v Speaker 6>work get stored in the vaults overnight and tomorrow will

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<v Speaker 6>be taking it up to where we do our transfer process.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike will have the exact numbers. But we pay out

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<v Speaker 4>probably one hundred forty million.

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<v Speaker 5>A day, hundred thirty five million a day, one hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty five million a day, and we take in one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million or nineteen one hundred nineteen million a day.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you say, wait a minute, how how can

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<v Speaker 4>you pay out more than Again, it is because we

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<v Speaker 4>get new money shipped in from Bureau of Graving and Printing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it all comes full circle. The Bureau of Engraving

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<v Speaker 1>and Printing, which has facilities in Washington, d c and

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<v Speaker 1>fort Worth prints the money. They ship it to the

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<v Speaker 1>reserve banks, where this whole process takes place, and then

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>those bills go out to banks ATMs or wherever you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting your cash money.

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<v Speaker 2>The life cycle of a bill is pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where the money is printed. They put it on pallets,

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<v Speaker 4>They ship it to the reserve banks, and we receive

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<v Speaker 4>it and you'll see it. It'll circulate for a few times.

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<v Speaker 4>It will come back to the FED for processing. As

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<v Speaker 4>it gets spent. They it goes to a bank. The

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<v Speaker 4>bank puts it in the positi. They'll send it to

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<v Speaker 4>us and say we got too much currency credit. Our

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<v Speaker 4>deposit account. Will count it, run it through the high

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<v Speaker 4>speed machine. If it's too dirty, will shred it. If

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<v Speaker 4>it's fine, we'll bundle it up, put it in a package,

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<v Speaker 4>and send it out to the next bank that needs

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<v Speaker 4>more cash for their ATM. And that's kind of the cycle.

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<v Speaker 4>The money comes in, gets stuck in the vault, goes

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<v Speaker 4>out the next day or whenever people want it, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's supplemented by the new money that comes from bureau

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<v Speaker 4>engraving and printing.

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<v Speaker 5>In terms of a life span of a dollar bill

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<v Speaker 5>or currency, it ranges somewhere from the one dollar bill.

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<v Speaker 5>I think last an average is six point six years

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<v Speaker 5>out in circulation versus as you can imagine, the one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred dollar bill less used probably more of those people

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<v Speaker 5>to keep it in their homes under mattresses or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>That circulates every twenty two point nine years, So quite

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<v Speaker 5>a bit of difference, but it varies based on the denomination.

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<v Speaker 2>There's supposed to be a strip. Yeah, you can.

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<v Speaker 4>Say it's green. If you put the UV light right

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<v Speaker 4>up against it, it gets brighter. But there's a green strip.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope. We end our tour at the Chicago Fed's

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<v Speaker 1>Money Museum, which is both fun and even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>about money, it's actually free to enter and you can

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<v Speaker 1>learn even more about cash.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're ever wondering which of the twelve Fed

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<v Speaker 2>banks your money comes from, if you look at the bill,

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<v Speaker 2>you see a big letter printed on each note on

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<v Speaker 2>a one dollar bill, it's just to the left of

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<v Speaker 2>George Washington.

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<v Speaker 4>F Who's f that's Atlanta. This is Atlanta money. No wonder,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not no wonder, it's not there. So you can

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<v Speaker 4>see the in the corner that's the equivalent of the G.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want to. So B would be the second district,

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<v Speaker 4>that'd be in New York. C C would be third district.

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<v Speaker 4>So is that Philadelphia? I think it might be Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>Each letter corresponds to the regional Fed that it passed through.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're wondering what the Chicago Fed is, that's

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<v Speaker 2>G that's Chicago money. So the Chicago Fed will put

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<v Speaker 2>in an order with the Bureau of Engraving and Printing

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<v Speaker 2>for new cash, and that money will be made and

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<v Speaker 2>sent to the Chicago Fed.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you, Joe, I will never look

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<v Speaker 1>at cash the same way again. I will annoy everyone

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<v Speaker 1>that I know by telling them which Fed, bank or

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<v Speaker 1>money came from.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, our tour comes to an end and

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<v Speaker 2>we're thrown back out into the real cashless world and

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<v Speaker 2>we are blinded by the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we learned a lot. And how many people

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<v Speaker 1>actually get to say they've seen billions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>cash without doing something illegal?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Tracy, I am ready for my waffles and

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<v Speaker 2>dance party that let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Special Thanks to Austin Goolsby, Mike Kepler, Amy Alvarado, Mark Peters,

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<v Speaker 1>and the staff at the Cash Operations Department of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Fed.

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<v Speaker 2>This special look aside How the fit Stash is Cash

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<v Speaker 2>was written by Tracy Alloway and Carmen Rodriguez. I'm Jill

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<v Speaker 2>Wisenthal and together with Tracy, we co host the Odlots podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Carmen produced this episode with the help of dash El

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<v Speaker 2>Bennett and Cal Brooks. Blake Maples is our sound engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan Newnam is our executive producer. Sage Bauman is the

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<v Speaker 2>head of Bloomberg Podcasts.

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