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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: And let's do it live on a Thursday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. Welcome into Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by bally Bet, your sports betting partner, your Cleveland Brown's

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Speaker 2: coming soon, Ohio. Merely bow the great z from his palatio,

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Speaker 2: overlooking the Spa and probably river and Downtown's and the

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Speaker 2: historical district and everything else you'd never want in Philly

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Speaker 2: so much so he'd rather never leave Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: What's the real truth, Bootsy? That's what I want to know,

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Speaker 3: because that was not it. Yes, that ain't it. No,

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Speaker 3: that's not it. In my hotel, I can actually peer out.

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Speaker 3: If I lean forward a little bit and look way

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Speaker 3: to the left, I can see the link Lincoln Financial

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Speaker 3: Field where the Browns and the Eagles will participate in

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Speaker 3: pre season game for the Browns preseason game number three.

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Speaker 3: So that'll be uh looking forward to that. Ready to

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Speaker 3: get home. I think it's been a long week. I

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Speaker 3: think it's kind of tough when well and in the

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Speaker 3: first two day, you know, you get here in Monday,

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Speaker 3: those are the practices that's kind of the meat of

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Speaker 3: what you were here to do, and then you have

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Speaker 3: kind of a day offish yesterday, at least from a

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Speaker 3: football standpoint, and then now you got the game here tonight.

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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, we got here on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 3: and you know we'll get at home after the game sometime,

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Speaker 3: you know, after midnight. But yeah, it's been a long week.

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Speaker 3: I think good stuff overall for this team. Like I

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Speaker 3: said at the beginning, and I'll say it again, came

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Speaker 3: here accomplished what you want to accomplish.

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Speaker 4: You know, exactly where you stand.

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Speaker 3: I talked to some people today, actually, a couple of

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Speaker 3: coaches and front office who were very, very pleased with

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Speaker 3: how everything went here on this trip and got a

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Speaker 3: lot of good work in and really, you know, the

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Speaker 3: defense remains kind of the talk of it. And then offensively,

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Speaker 3: we were running a lot of new stuff, put some

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Speaker 3: new things in for this week, and everybody felt very

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Speaker 3: good and feels I'll tell you what, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of confidence about everything that's going on and our and

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Speaker 3: our state of our passing game, all of that, and

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Speaker 3: I think people are kind of very excited. You almost

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Speaker 3: got a sense that they're like people have no ida,

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Speaker 3: Like you just haven't seen what we're going to do

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Speaker 3: on offense yet and is hard.

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Speaker 2: This is also, Buddy, I think I've thought a lot

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Speaker 2: about this and we've addressed some of these things through

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Speaker 2: the last year that you and I have been doing

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Speaker 2: the show. With this standard that is now in place,

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Speaker 2: and just the you know, the the pressure that is

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Speaker 2: there to develop to deliver on this roster talent.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing, just from a from a fan base,

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Speaker 2: from a media perspective, those that covered the team, like

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Speaker 2: this team is different this This has happened a couple

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Speaker 2: other times. This happened certainly going into Freddy's year when

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Speaker 2: he was officially named the head coach. There was a

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Speaker 2: sense of this that this team will be judged on

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Speaker 2: how it plays in the season. During the season, and

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Speaker 2: that team was judged very very harshly on what happened

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Speaker 2: in the season, and rightfully so this team.

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Speaker 5: Is much like that.

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Speaker 2: What happens in August, what happened last summer, when you

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Speaker 2: think about camp, all of that, it's all nonsensical. What

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Speaker 2: matters is September. Everybody knows that. So we're in this

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Speaker 2: previous twenty years of the franchise, like these preseason games,

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Speaker 2: these the offseason, the preseason games were almost like a

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Speaker 2: super Bowl, right, like you're trying to earth some diamond

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Speaker 2: a rough. We're to beers. There's talent everywhere, like it's

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Speaker 2: of measuring stick of where you are as a franchise, honestly,

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Speaker 2: Bengals come here. In the opener is could you match

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Speaker 2: And if the answer to that was yes, then you're

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Speaker 3: It was emphatically yes, and yeah, I think you are

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Speaker 3: onto something. That's exactly kind of what this to me,

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Speaker 4: You know, you get.

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Speaker 3: Variant answers, different answers from different people in the organization.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is not about a measuring stick or

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Speaker 3: a barometer. We were here to get you know, good

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Speaker 3: work against the quality of Potagram. I think that that's

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Speaker 3: all true. But I think you also part of the

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Speaker 3: reason that you got here and part of the reason

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Speaker 3: that you remade the roster, and some of the things

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Speaker 3: you did I think were part of those things that

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Speaker 3: practices last year and what you saw against Philly and

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely feels like this is a This was a

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Speaker 3: measuring stick, This was a barometer type of a week.

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Speaker 3: And from just the to your point, it's not from

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Speaker 3: an execution standpoint, and while there was excellent execution on

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Speaker 3: the NFL, and the answer was yes. And so at

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Speaker 3: that point it becomes comes down to, you know, coaching

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Speaker 3: confident our players abillity to execute. And so that's what

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Speaker 3: they'll have to go out there and do when it matters.

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Speaker 3: And that's the end of it.

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Speaker 2: Do you have, dudes, That's what you're going to find

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Speaker 5: That's what this is. It's the middle of August.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Could you physically, did you have the toughness, the strength,

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Speaker 5: If the answer if you.

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Speaker 2: If you belonged on the field with them, then you

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Speaker 2: can belong on the field with any team in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And the answer to that emphatically, and not just me

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Speaker 2: I get it, But this is across the beats. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have Jeff Kerr on and he'll he's covered this

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Speaker 2: So so that was accomplished the game today. Who are

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's it, That's that's my guy.

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Speaker 2: And I assume the two Buckeyes are going to be

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Speaker 5: We'll see them as.

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Speaker 4: I would think, so yeah, I would think.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna see you know, those young Ohio State

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Speaker 3: You know, you're gonna see Tyrone Wheatley I think quite

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Speaker 3: that the Browns are very high on. I think you're

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Speaker 3: gonna see you mentioned Dwan Jones, Luke Whippler, you know,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's kind of you know. You look through

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Speaker 3: and I didn't even on ours. I finished my boards

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Speaker 3: for our team yesterday early yesterday. I finished the Eagles

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Speaker 3: up to this morning for their offense, but I didn't

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Speaker 3: even have our starters put on ours. But this is

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Speaker 3: I think that'll be an easy way to go through

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Speaker 3: you know, to stay on this roster or to stay

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Speaker 3: the outcomes don't matter. This is this game is not

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Speaker 3: about the outcome. If the Browns win this game or

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Speaker 3: if the Brown's losing. Of course winning is more fun.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The most important thing that can happen in this game,

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Speaker 3: honestly is it's really easy. The most important thing could

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Speaker 4: That's really that's.

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Speaker 2: Really yehre you're at Yeah, and I would even mind.

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Speaker 2: I mean initially when you said it earlier in the

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Speaker 2: last three day, Initially I was it just it shocked me.

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Speaker 5: So I wasn't really sure how to process that.

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Speaker 2: But then the more that you the more that you

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Speaker 2: think of it, the more that that is how I

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Speaker 2: think preseason football should be used. It should be used

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Speaker 2: almost entirely as situational football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And it's you know, like.

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Speaker 2: Rogers when he's saying, there's no sense of running what

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Speaker 2: are we doing running the ball in the preseason? If

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Speaker 2: you have a question about a kicker or a punter,

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Speaker 2: put them in a position to see if they can

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's how preseason football should be used.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be coached in a way, and I think

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Speaker 2: some coaches are getting to that point where it shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be coached in a way of we're trying to win

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Speaker 2: the game with the fourth guy at running back, Like

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Speaker 2: that's that's really not what it's about. It's about something

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Speaker 2: so much bigger than that, correct, And so you're right,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly the most.

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Speaker 5: Important thing that will.

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Speaker 2: Come up tonight, what is your sense on how Philly

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Speaker 2: will treat this one because this is their second preseason game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think their starters are going to get

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Speaker 3: I think you will see some players and Chris rolready

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Speaker 3: He's play by play voice for the for the TV

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Speaker 3: broadcasts and he's a little piece plugged in with some

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Speaker 3: But the big names, you will not see any of

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Speaker 3: the big names. They got their work in the practices

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Speaker 3: I think everybody would like that. It's not possible. So

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Speaker 5: There will be.

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Speaker 3: You can't know the NFL you're that's not possible. So

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Speaker 3: that was something that was looked into. It was not

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Speaker 3: There will be things I promise when you come out

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Speaker 3: So don't worry about that. But the franchise obviously think

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Speaker 2: So okay, so the NFL rules at Midfield must be

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Speaker 2: No, you and I steer away from those things entirely.

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Speaker 2: That was a very I don't know the rules. I

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Speaker 3: So don't don't take that that's not on the Browns,

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Speaker 2: Okay, very good. Because I was among them, I thought

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Speaker 3: That's what spurred it for me, as I do follow

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Speaker 4: So I love to make.

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Speaker 6: Sure we all right.

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Speaker 2: So it is down to the dog that was done

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Speaker 5: That's that's where you're at on those two things.

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Speaker 2: I just again, this just my vote on that would

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Speaker 5: For me, I'm a big.

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Speaker 4: People did not like nothing. I know.

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Speaker 2: Apparently they don't like nothing. Again, I hold school in

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Speaker 2: fine too. Between these two. For me, it's the running

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Speaker 2: Elf by one hundred miles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I think I like the Elf.

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Speaker 3: I do think if the Browns, ever, you know, get

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Speaker 3: that might return to the midfield area.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that would be very very cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've had a bunch of different field designs here. You know,

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Speaker 3: The dog, and I like that be nice little little continuity. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Course, But there is I mean, this is a sacred brand,

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Speaker 2: The hoff will be honored his Ring of Excellence ceremony

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Speaker 4: Boy's going to meet.

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure we go to that one.

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Speaker 2: That'll be a lot of fun to absolutely in that situation.

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Speaker 2: How was the meal last night?

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Speaker 4: Oh it was great.

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Speaker 3: And you know, last night, myself, the Hoff and Chris

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Speaker 4: In the Mid Atlantic Region.

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Speaker 3: Then the five flower shaped dumplings with ground chicken, cucumber

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Speaker 5: He like to be routine.

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Speaker 3: I'd think, you know, the hotel when he's got to go,

441
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Speaker 3: who knows, get back?

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Speaker 4: I got this comrade interview him. Yeah, he likes.

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Speaker 3: He does like completely time. He liked to be there

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Speaker 3: at least forty eight hours in advance.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like to get there seven hours before kick.

446
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Speaker 4: Just to make sure, right, just to make sure.

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Speaker 2: Uh look, it's folks, just from a from a game tonight.

448
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Speaker 2: And we'll go through like position by position, like roster battles.

449
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Speaker 2: Who can make a little bit of hay who has

450
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Speaker 2: momentumized type of things coming up in the second hour.

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Speaker 2: But I would just say this, thank goodness you have

452
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Speaker 2: dtr because for the for the the fan who's not

453
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Speaker 2: into position battles on the offensive line and those type

454
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Speaker 2: of things, you've got an exciting quarterback that you're going

455
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Speaker 2: to get to see again tonight. Who's been really fun

456
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Speaker 2: the first two weeks and will be fun again tonight.

457
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: He's going to start, he gets the whole first half.

458
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Speaker 2: There's some juice to that that makes this a lot better,

459
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Speaker 2: uh than than perhaps it would have been otherwise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course there are some there is some excitement,

461
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Speaker 3: and there's some things that you know, you just want

462
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Speaker 3: to see fun football. You know, I'd love to see

463
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Speaker 3: a whole game of of of our guy at the

464
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Speaker 3: quarterback position. That's not a knock on it getting incredibly

465
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Speaker 3: fun to watch. Yeah, this game is it's the storylines

466
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Speaker 3: of people fighting for their NFL lives more than anything,

467
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Speaker 3: and then it's on this team and to stay with

468
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Speaker 3: the Browns. There's it's wild. That's why this feels super

469
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Speaker 3: to me. And maybe because last year because it was

470
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Speaker 3: at home, we had the joint practices and then we

471
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Speaker 3: went to the game.

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Speaker 5: What's he doing?

473
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Speaker 2: What is he listening to us on an app? I'm

474
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Speaker 2: getting all these tweets, all these texts.

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Speaker 4: From who Yeah, Oh my goodness, who knows that? You're

476
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Speaker 4: like laughing?

477
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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know's it?

478
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Speaker 3: Sure is going to be on the bus at one

479
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Speaker 3: point thirty last night, he was dive bar hopping and

480
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Speaker 3: went to the liber Bell Okay, perfect, perfect, Yeah, by.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be on the bus at one thirty.

482
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Speaker 2: Got to get down there. God, bless God, bless the great.

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Speaker 4: You started laughing. I was like, am I saying something insane?

484
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Speaker 6: No?

485
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, you were perfect.

486
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Speaker 2: I just I just was amazing to be like, he

487
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Speaker 2: is in route to go due to the game.

488
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Speaker 5: He's obviously listening on the app.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, is the only way he could be hearing us,

490
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Speaker 2: because again, you are currently in Philadelphia. While we're quite

491
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Speaker 2: popular in the world's true guessing, we're not on WIP

492
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Speaker 2: or whatever it is over there. So that's that's the

493
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Speaker 2: way that that works. So it just struck me funny

494
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Speaker 2: that he wanted a full retort to retort any sort

495
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Speaker 2: of comments that I were or you were making on

496
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Speaker 2: his behalf. Yeah, yeah, so it is. You're right, it's

497
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Speaker 2: guys fighting for their lives. We'll go over some of

498
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Speaker 2: the spots of that. We'll go around the NFL coming

499
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Speaker 2: up next, Chris Rosen. About fifteen ten minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: we're off and running on a game day edition. Cleveland

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Speaker 2: We go around the NFL. These I think probably the

514
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Speaker 2: most interesting one. I don't believe for a second that

515
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Speaker 2: Ron Rivera's not going to have Sam Howell as the starter.

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Speaker 5: I don't buy that for a second. There'd be no point.

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Speaker 2: We love Jacoby, but I mean, come on, be no

518
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: point in that whatsoever. Treylon Burks could miss multiple weeks

519
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Speaker 2: with an LCL sprain that is coming out of Titans camp.

520
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Speaker 2: The first round pick we played the Titans in Week three.

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Speaker 3: We certainly do. Yeah, some injuries kind of racking up

522
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Speaker 3: around the league. It feels like in so far knock

523
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Speaker 3: on wood for the Browns of their players.

524
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Speaker 4: Of consequence, we have not dealt with that.

525
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Speaker 2: The Chargers enshrining former tight end Antonio Gates into the

526
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Speaker 2: Chargers Hall of Fame. He is up for the Pro

527
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Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame next season. I'm sure this is

528
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Speaker 2: Stevie who wants to know is he a first ballot

529
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer? I don't think first ballot, but I

530
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Speaker 2: think you'll get in. So who's in the class?

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Speaker 7: Thing?

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Speaker 5: It starts there, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my inclination when you said is Antonio Gates a

534
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Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Fame? My inclination would have been yes.

535
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go look call it up the total accolades.

536
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Speaker 3: But in my mind right.

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Speaker 5: Well your pull, I'm gonna see who's eligible of.

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Speaker 3: The of the modern era so like of our lifetime.

539
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Speaker 3: So I'm not counting Kellen Winslow and Ozzie Newsom. The

540
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Speaker 3: three best tight ends of our lifetime have been, without question,

541
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Speaker 3: Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez and Gronk and now Travis Kelcey

542
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Speaker 3: Kelsey the fourth to go into that into that list.

543
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 3: He's eight time Pro Bowler, three time first team All Pro. Yeah,

544
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Speaker 3: I mean his you have to and these numbers. People

545
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: will say, well, that's not that crazy. But back then

546
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Speaker 3: for a tight end to be at eighty one, nine

547
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Speaker 3: sixty four and thirteen eighty nine, eleven hundred and ten,

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Speaker 3: seventy one, nine twenty four, nine seventy five, nine eighty

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Speaker 3: four and nine sixty seven oh four and eight eleven

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Speaker 3: fifty seven and eight seven eighty and ten, seven eighty

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Speaker 3: and seven, then even later in his career in his

552
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Speaker 3: eleventh season is eight twenty one and twelve. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's gotta be in terms of tight end stats, he's

554
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Speaker 3: got to be. He's got to be one of the

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Speaker 3: one of the top. Ever, I'm trying to like a

556
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Speaker 3: Pro Football Reference has their kind of their Hall of

557
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Speaker 3: Fame monitor.

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Speaker 4: They call it.

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Speaker 5: He's for sure.

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Speaker 2: First ballot now that I look at this class too,

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Speaker 2: because Peppers is the first ballot. Julius Peppers and Gates

562
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Speaker 2: they headline what would be the class of new eligibles.

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Speaker 2: The other is Eric Berry, whose career which cut short.

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Speaker 2: Helodnadas in this class as well. Jamal Charles Brandon Marshall.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it just isn't the type of class where

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be five first ballots. There'll be guys that

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Speaker 2: have missed it that'll get in from previous years. I

568
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Speaker 2: think because of it, this is not a particularly strong class.

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Speaker 2: I think both he and Gates will be Both Gates

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Speaker 2: and Peppers will be first ballot.

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Speaker 4: Like, he's seventh all time in receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think I thought, my yeah, that was my natural inclination.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's on the All Decade team. He's got Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think if you broke it base on for tight

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Speaker 3: ends only. I mean, the only people I think whose

577
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Speaker 3: numbers could even come close to his would be would

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Speaker 3: be Tony Gonzalez. Yeah, because I mean he did it.

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Speaker 3: Gates was in the league from two thousand and three

580
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Speaker 3: was his rookie year, and he hung them up in

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Speaker 3: twenty and eighteen, Yes, eleven and forty one yards, receiving

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Speaker 3: nine hundred and fifty five catches, one hundred and sixteen touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think, I think so. I mean, he made eight

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Speaker 3: straight Pro Bowls from the ages of twenty four to

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Speaker 3: thirty one. He was a Pro bowler eight straight years.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like back in the day that

588
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: meant a lot more than the Pro Bowl. Now, I

589
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: don't remember all the replacements in this because it was

590
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Speaker 3: after the season. He'd get the Super Bowl replacements, so

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Speaker 3: you didn't get all those I think about it. Last year,

592
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Speaker 3: the Eagles had eight Pro Bowlers, So there are eight

593
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Speaker 3: people who are Pro Bowlers that wouldn't have been on

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Speaker 3: it under the old format, just on the NFC team

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Speaker 3: from a year ago. So I think that those eight

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Speaker 3: that he has in a row back in that era

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Speaker 3: are that's that's a significant that's a significant stat Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, he's he's a he's a first and Peppers

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Speaker 5: will be a first. He's not. He won't go in.

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Speaker 2: But Jamal Charles has some of the most ridiculous He

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Speaker 2: has two of the most ridiculous years his uh. He

602
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Speaker 2: was a first team All Pro once fourteen sixty seven

603
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Speaker 2: in twenty ten, fourteen sixty seven yards.

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Speaker 5: Six point four a carry that year. In twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: He is the all time leader. Yeah, he's an all

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Speaker 3: time career leader in yards per carry for his career

607
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: at five point four four. Right Chubb was Chubb was

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Speaker 3: right there and was knocking on the door of him

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Speaker 3: for it because it's a certain number of carry threshold

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Speaker 3: was on the door. But then last year, I think

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Speaker 3: he ended up at like five flat for the season,

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Speaker 3: did Nick, And so he came down just a little

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Speaker 3: bit to five point two. Yeah, he was. He was

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Speaker 3: on the brink of going it. The two years prior

615
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Speaker 3: were five point six and five point five. Yeah, Jamal

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Speaker 3: Charles Everitts. To do that for your career in the

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Speaker 3: NFL is ludicrous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just doesn't have the longevity. Eric Barry is an

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Speaker 2: interesting one with the career shut cut short. He's a

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Speaker 2: five time pro bowler, three time All Pro. Probably not enough,

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Speaker 2: but the career is the career just got He was

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Speaker 2: a three time first team All Pro. Yeah, was Eric Berry?

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Speaker 2: He's basically done at age twenty eight? Why and missed

624
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Speaker 2: his second year in the league with cancer, wasn't it?

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Speaker 4: He did?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: When he was young player. He was drafted in the

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Speaker 4: same draft class as Joe.

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Speaker 5: Had That's right, that's right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Peppers and Gates will be your first ballot guys

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Speaker 2: in next year's Hall of Fame. Real quickly, before we

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Speaker 2: get to Rose, tell me about this bug you saw?

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Speaker 2: Oh givee, says break, So you got a sixty seconds

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Speaker 2: to tell me about the bug?

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Speaker 4: It needs more time than that.

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Speaker 5: One more time time rejected, then comment.

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Speaker 4: It's the most terrifying bug I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: See Do you have that to look forward to? Which

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Speaker 5: is nice?

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Speaker 6: Chris?

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Speaker 5: I always give me Listening on the app Chris Rose coming.

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Speaker 2: He joins us he was a dinner companion of Ze

658
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Speaker 2: last night. I want to start there. Can you take

659
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: me through your mindset? Has he told the story? You

660
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: guys have this incredible meal, You get back to the

661
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: hotel and Hoff says, I need to graze a little

662
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: bit more.

663
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Speaker 7: I didn't understand it. I thought he was just going

664
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 7: up to like the training area, just to get some

665
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 7: waters for his room. And then he's like, hmm, no food.

666
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 7: I was like, are you kidding me? Like I almost

667
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 7: lost my dinner. As we got out of the uber after,

668
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 7: I was like, I really don't feel great. As great

669
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: as the meal was. I was like, I think I

670
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 7: eight twenty five percent more than I should have. And

671
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 7: he did it with a dozen beers in him and

672
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 7: I was like, what this isn't like real? What's happening?

673
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 7: You weren't real hungry. He's like, oh, yeah, I am.

674
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 7: I am, because but I won't eat until tomorrow. Anyway.

675
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 7: Right before the game, I was like, okay, So I

676
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 7: texted him this morning. I said, hey, we had a

677
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 7: quick production meeting. I said, you want to walk around

678
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 7: a little bit. He sent me a photo of him

679
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 7: being a bagel out in the streets at ten in

680
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 7: the morning. I was like, so, what happened to your

681
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 7: game plan? You like reach like okay, wow, he goes,

682
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 7: well it built.

683
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: It's incredible he is. He's like, it was a light meal.

684
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: I'm still hungry for Like, what are you talking about?

685
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: And then the beers he pointed that out. So he

686
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: sat down and immediately goes, We're gonna do these two

687
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: at a time.

688
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: Tonight's when he told.

689
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 3: The waitress and so oh really that was the lines

690
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: to two singers at a time, and there were many orders.

691
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: But so Chris, I was saying that I thought it

692
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: was stunning when I was out with him, basically every

693
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: night that I've been out with him, but where he

694
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: was starting to really get into the beers in addition

695
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: to everything else that you just I never see him.

696
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: I never saw him actually drinking the beer. I just

697
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: knew that they were gone. It was stunning to me

698
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: how he does.

699
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 7: Usually when you're out with friends and they have a

700
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 7: dozen beers, they aren't the same person as when you

701
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 7: sat down at the table. Naturally, he was exactly the same.

702
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 7: Nothing I was Like I said, I think I'm getting

703
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 7: drunk just by us, mostly from sitting across away from him.

704
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 7: It was it was quite I think of the reason

705
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 7: he got in the canton.

706
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Speaker 3: That could be one of the beers myself, so he

707
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: could so he could have somebody else to have a

708
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: bureau of them. And it took me a good while

709
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: to put that beer down. I'm not a beer guy.

710
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Speaker 4: Just like incredible, but time we really it was wonderful.

711
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was fun. It was fun. Now we'll get

712
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 7: to work in a couple hours. Can't wait.

713
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Speaker 2: Is this a from from your perspective? And by the way,

714
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: thank good to see you have dtr right. I mean,

715
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: you would have loved to If you had your way,

716
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: you'd be calling the practices on Monday and Tuesday because

717
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: that's where a lot of the fun stuff is. But

718
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: in terms of tonight's game, how much is the fact

719
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Speaker 2: that you have this exciting rookie quarter. I mean that

720
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: this first half that changes a lot of things, doesn't.

721
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: It, Chris, of course it does.

722
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 7: I mean he's been the player of the preseason in

723
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 7: the NFL, not only for the Cleveland Browns, I mean

724
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 7: the entire league, right, because he is a familiar name.

725
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 7: He started almost fifty games at UCLA. He's been in

726
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 7: the football conserence for a while, and now people are like, oh,

727
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 7: it's kind of cool to see him at the next level.

728
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 7: And you know, this will be broadcast nationally on NFL networks,

729
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 7: so people will get a chance to see him there too,

730
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 7: which is nice. So I just think it's it's fun

731
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Speaker 7: whether he ends up at some point being the backup

732
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 7: this year or just down the line, it's a cool story,

733
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 7: you know. Obviously we love it with the Cedric Pilman angle,

734
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 7: which is great that you know, quarterback receiver from Bishop

735
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 7: Gorman gets to do it. I think it's all it's

736
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 7: it's all fascinating, and he's gonna get has to go

737
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 7: against a bunch of their starters. Their safety rotation is

738
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 7: not yet set in stone, with the exception Red Blankenship,

739
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 7: who was ridiculous against us in the practices. This week,

740
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 7: they're going to be playing all their safeties, I think,

741
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 7: and all their linebackers. So and that we know that

742
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 7: their second string defensive front is really good too, so

743
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 7: this will be nice test for him.

744
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Whose who else are you excited to see on We'll

745
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: stay on the offense on the Browns offense in this.

746
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 7: Game, I suppose receiver wise, you know, Nathan, we talked

747
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 7: about this. The first four kind of set in stone,

748
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 7: and then where do they go from there? And I

749
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 7: think that that's the big question. We just don't know

750
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 7: about the health moving forward of Marquise Goodwin anytime soon,

751
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 7: so let's say that we don't have him for the

752
00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 7: foreseeable future. David Bell I thought looked pretty good last week.

753
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 7: Anthony Schwartz had a really good week from what I

754
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 7: understand in practice. Mike Harley is an interesting guy, right,

755
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 7: But Austin Watkins Jr. Has just jumped off the charts.

756
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 7: You guys started talking about him, and then I saw

757
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 7: him in person a practice a couple of times last week,

758
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 7: and then we've seen him in the two games so far,

759
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 7: and he just doesn't screw up and he makes plays

760
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 7: and he's a solid body. Like that's a guy I'm

761
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 7: watch him. I don't know how he plays special teams,

762
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 7: so that's obviously a big part of that equation forward

763
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 7: the back end of the roster. But I can tell

764
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 7: you this man, the name of the game is being

765
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 7: a wide receiver. When they throw in the ball, he

766
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 7: catches it and moves chains.

767
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an important part. The catch part.

768
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Speaker 2: You gotta get that he does Chris.

769
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Speaker 7: Go ahead doesn't always work out that way.

770
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Speaker 2: Bo, No, I know, no, no, I'm saying, we know

771
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: that all too well. So like that part of it is,

772
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: that's critical. You know, I'm curious. One thing that I'm noticing,

773
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: and not just in our games, but around the league,

774
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: is it feels like every coach is still kind of

775
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to do this three preseason thing.

776
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: There's it feels like there's different philosophies game to game,

777
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 2: different philosophies team to team. We saw one the Jets

778
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: in Carolina over the weekend where Carolina played their ones.

779
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: The Jets almost exclusively did not we saw We've seen

780
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: once where Sean Payton kept Russell Wilson out there for

781
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: four drives like waiting to have some success. As you're

782
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: talking to Nick Sirianni, we know obviously what the Browns

783
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: are gonna do tonight. Kevin has said as much. But

784
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: as you talk to Sirianni, how is he approaching tonight?

785
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 7: Well, I personally did not talk to him, but I

786
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 7: do you know, I'm close with the other television broadcast team. Yeah,

787
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 7: so you know, you won't see a lot of their

788
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 7: stars right on offense, or you won't see Hurts, you

789
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 7: won't see their number one offensive line. You won't see

790
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 7: a J. Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Godder, but you will

791
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 7: see the next guys in the line, like you'll see

792
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 7: you know, Ques Watkins is a little banged up, but

793
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 7: you will see Alamide Zakias, whom they brought in from Atlanta.

794
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 7: You'll see probably Greg Ward is my guest. But you're

795
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 7: gonna see almost their full stable of running backs. And

796
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 7: part of that is a differing philosophy between Kevin Stefanski

797
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 7: and Nick Siriani, and also in part because of the

798
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 7: situations they're in. Siriani, from what I understand, does not

799
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 7: want his running backs being hit for the first time

800
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: day one of the season, whereas Kevin Stefanski, if he

801
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 7: puts Nick Chubb out there and god forbid he twist

802
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 7: an ankle in the preseason, like world, y'all are gonna

803
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 7: have content to talk about, it's not going to be

804
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 7: very pleasant. So it's just such a different situation, right,

805
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 7: He's got four guys that have done it in the

806
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 7: NFL to varying degrees of success, but not one of

807
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 7: them is close to Nick Chubb. So you're going to

808
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 7: see a bunch of really capable running backs. And I

809
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 7: throw this point out there. I'll make it tonight on

810
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 7: the broadcast. Don't think that Andrew Barry didn't watch the

811
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 7: Eagles running backs room closely this week just in case

812
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 7: one of those guys shakes loose, because they do have

813
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 7: four guys that have been successful NFL players, and they're

814
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 7: not all going to be playing on Sundays.

815
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point. And he's talking about the

816
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: four he means DeAndre Swift. By the way, DeAndre Swift

817
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: the Eagles, I feel like.

818
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: Just stole him.

819
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: You go and look at what he's done for his career,

820
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 3: and he hasn't you know, he hasn't been healthy all year,

821
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 3: every year, and he's always done his average nine hundred

822
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: and fifty nine total yards and eight point three touchdowns

823
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: a year in his three seasons.

824
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Speaker 4: There.

825
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: They bring in Rashad Penny, who for his career averages

826
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: five point seven yards of carry. He's never played more

827
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: than ten games in a season, so obviously injury is there.

828
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: A former first rounder they got Boston Scott, who's always productive.

829
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: Kenneth Gainwell is always productive for them as well, So yeah,

830
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: that's a room. And then they got the former Buckeye

831
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: Trey Sermon, who just hasn't been able to get it

832
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: done in the NFL again. Injuries a problem there. So

833
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: I'm it is an interesting room.

834
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Speaker 4: And you're right.

835
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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, one of the things we'll

836
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: watch tonight, Chris, is are the Browns running backs because

837
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: you won't see Chubb or Ford and you know, Ken

838
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: Demetric Felton continue kind of what we've seen. He's been

839
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: the leading rusher each of the two games. Can he,

840
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: you know, solidify that third job or is that still

841
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: very much you know, maybe even the second with Ford hurt?

842
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: Is that person somewhere else right now? Is that person

843
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: one of these Eagles running backs, for example? Is that person?

844
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: You know, one of the guys with the Jets now

845
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: that they've signed Dalvin Cook. So I think that running

846
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: back positions interesting and I know you do too. We right,

847
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: So what are you looking for there? Are you going

848
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: to be watching their running backs as much as you're

849
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: watching our own?

850
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 7: I think that's what fans should do. I mean if

851
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 7: you're looking for reasons to watch. That's part of the

852
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 7: narrative here is that you could see our running backs

853
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 7: room right. We went into the NFL season last year

854
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 7: with the number one running backs room right between Chubb,

855
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 7: Kareem Hunt, and de Earnest and you were like, wow,

856
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 7: that is awesome. Well this year it's Nick Chubb and

857
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 7: nobody else that has more than thirty two carries in

858
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 7: the NFL until they signed Jordan Wilkins this week, who's

859
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 7: a guy who's had some experience with Indianapolis. But I

860
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 7: don't know if that's the answer or not, so you

861
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 7: have to pay attention to it. It makes perfect sense.

862
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 7: And yeah, I mean listen to I don't know how

863
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 7: hurt Jerome Ford is none of us, but this was

864
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 7: going to be critical time for him, Like he needs

865
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 7: to get some carries because what did he play fourteen

866
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 7: offensive snaps or something a year ago. You're asking a

867
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 7: lot of a guy that doesn't have a ton of

868
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 7: experience at this level to back up Nick Chubb because

869
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 7: this isn't this isn't a video game. We just can't

870
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 7: run him into the ground. You know there were times

871
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 7: last year we're all screaming like, why isn't he end

872
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 7: of the game. Well, this year he's going to be

873
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 7: in those positions, like you don't want him playing ninety

874
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 7: percent of the snaps or ninety two percent of the snaps,

875
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 7: So we gotta sew that part.

876
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: Up, Chris.

877
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: You know, one of the great pleasures that Zee and

878
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: I have had with having the Hoff on the show

879
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: is when he starts talking about offensive line and it's

880
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: not the sexiest conversation for the total audience, but it's

881
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: just to hear like a true master discuss what goes

882
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: through his mind. And so I'm saying I'm bringing this

883
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: up because you mentioned dtr one of the stars of

884
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: the preseason. I think probably the other one has been

885
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: Dwan Jones. I mean, he has been an absolute rocket

886
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: ship in terms of his stock. That is something you guys,

887
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm guessing provide he plays a lot, which he has

888
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: in every game to this point, and I'm sure he

889
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: will tonight. There's a little There's a little nugget out

890
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: there for the broadcast I would assume is is Dewan

891
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Jones could he eventually could? Is he forcing himself? I

892
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: don't know onto the field? Is he forcing the plans

893
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: of this team long term.

894
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, bite your tongue on the sexiness factor, bow,

895
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 7: I mean, come on now, if you can't if you

896
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 7: can't love three hundred and seventy four pounds, six foot eight,

897
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 7: what can you love what? Jo? Yeah? I mean, Joe

898
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 7: is like propping at the mouth, you know. And my

899
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 7: buddy Brian Baldinger from NFL Network has done now to

900
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 7: bald these breakdowns on him, one after each game, so

901
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 7: he can't get enough of him. And it is I mean,

902
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 7: it is fun. Six foot eight, three hundred and seventy

903
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 7: four pounds. It is fun to talk about. And there

904
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 7: was never a question about his talent. You know. The

905
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 7: reason he went to day three is because people had

906
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 7: questions about work ethic, who is he? All that sort

907
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 7: of stuff. Well guess what, for once we might have

908
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 7: found a Jim Well, you know, usually it's Philly who's

909
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 7: finding guys that slide down the board. This one might

910
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 7: work in our favor. And Joe says he's just a

911
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 7: terrific talent. He's gonna be talking about him a lot.

912
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 7: And the biggest question you start with is can he

913
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 7: be our swing tackle? Right, That's the first one you

914
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 7: go in because we don't have that experienced guy right now.

915
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 7: God forbid, something happens to Jack Conklin, like right now

916
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 7: he's in concussion protocol, or something happens to Jed. And

917
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 7: he's had, you know, a few times in recent years

918
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 7: where he's missed a game because of an ankle or

919
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 7: something like that. Has got it through most of the time,

920
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 7: but some one of those guys might go down. Are

921
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 7: you comfortable putting your rookie in there? And I think

922
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 7: what he's showing us is that and we get it.

923
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 7: He hasn't moved to the left side yet. Kevin Sepanski

924
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 7: made that very apparent, but it wouldn't shock me if

925
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 7: at some point they give him some run there and

926
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 7: say that's our swing guy. We'd love to red shirt him,

927
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 7: but maybe he's he's up next.

928
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting.

929
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: James Hudson probably is the guy going into his third

930
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: ear who would have that title right now, and the question, yeah,

931
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: he can dewan, you know, take that from him. Then,

932
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: going to these joint practices, we didn't think he was

933
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: gonna get first team reps. Kevin stead that much going

934
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: on to the field. Well as that second day practice

935
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: unfold that he did get those first team reps and

936
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: had a great accounting of himself, So I thought that

937
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: was it feels like a steal. A lot of people

938
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: are excited about it. A long way to go, but

939
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: what an unbelievable mountain of clay. And he's in the

940
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: great hands of the capable hands of Bill Callahan and

941
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: Scott Peters. They're on our offensive line. Let's slip it

942
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: around defensively, because offensively thanos, you won't miss him. You

943
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: talked about some of the skill guys that will to

944
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: see that DTR defensively. You know, Ronnie Hickman is nicknamed Rocket.

945
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: He rocketed, you know, right into roster contention with those

946
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: two interceptions.

947
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 4: What do you think about him?

948
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: The young man from Ohio State, and you know, anything

949
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 3: else that jumps out to you on what you want

950
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: to see on defense since we won't be seeing the

951
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: big marquee names.

952
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 7: So Bo, you could probably speak to this a little

953
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 7: bit more. But yeah, my best friend is a guy

954
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 7: named Jane of Botney, whom I grew up with in Cleveland,

955
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 7: and he is an enormous Buckeyes fan and we would

956
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 7: talk ad nause him about Ronnie Hickman during the Buckeye

957
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 7: season m M, and he'd be like God, one game

958
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 7: he's unbelievable, and then the next scheme he disappears. And

959
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 7: I think fair or unfair, that has been the narrative

960
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 7: that followed him from Columbus to Cleveland. So the question

961
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 7: is can he continue that run? Because he was great,

962
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 7: great last week and you know, he showed two different

963
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 7: ways of picking off the ball right playing center field,

964
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 7: making up a lot of ground with the ball in

965
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 7: the air, and then another one where it was a

966
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 7: little more quick right. And then he was also part

967
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 7: of a coverage where Johan Dotson split two guys and

968
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 7: ended up catching a touchdown. So can we see more consistency?

969
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 7: I think this would be an amazing group of safeties

970
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 7: for him to learn from. I mean, right, Grant Delp

971
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 7: but now seems so comfortable in the last year of

972
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 7: his rookie deal. They bring in Juan Thornhill, who's done

973
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 7: nothing but win, and then you've got Rodney McCleod, who

974
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 7: is an undrafted free agent and now has been in

975
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 7: the NFL in more than a decade and is a

976
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 7: Super Bowl champ himself. And I just think that he

977
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 7: is a talent sometimes with that lack of consistency, you

978
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 7: need guys who can look you in the eye and

979
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 7: be able to tell you this is how you do

980
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 7: it every week. So I love his talent. I want

981
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 7: to see him show it again tonight.

982
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: I think the one thing about you nailed the Ronnie evaluation.

983
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: I think one thing that that has to be that

984
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: you don't know unless you really pay attention to it

985
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: on that side, and your buddy would. You'd know this too, Chris,

986
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: but just for audience, Ronnie played in three different defensive

987
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: systems at Ohio State. They had three different coordinators during

988
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: the time that he was there. The inconsistency was real

989
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: in terms of what your buddy said in terms of

990
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: great one day and then disappears the next. But some

991
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: of that too, is they had three different systems, and

992
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: the first two systems were different on the back end

993
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: almost entirely that he would have worked in. So I think,

994
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they were as a unit inconsistent during that time.

995
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: So I think sometimes that stuck to him and maybe

996
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: it didn't deserve to. And not just him, but a

997
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: lot of the guys who played defense for a High

998
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: State from nine team to twenty two. The way that

999
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: the way that Ronnie did. But I think that that

1000
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: is fair, that the criticism is put on point, but

1001
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: there are reasons for it.

1002
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 7: Hey, by the way, vote. The last thing I want

1003
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 7: to do is give my best friend any credit. He

1004
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 7: doesn't need it. Okay, he's the smartest guy I've ever known.

1005
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 7: He went to Harvard undergrad Virginia Law. So the last

1006
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 7: thing I want to do. If you want to say, hey,

1007
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 7: go back to J and tell him he doesn't know

1008
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 7: what the hell he's talking about. I would. In fact,

1009
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 7: I might give you his number after this, so you

1010
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 7: can call him up and say it is no idea what.

1011
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: He's talking about, because I will strike it from the record.

1012
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: Will strike it from the record. It'll not be in

1013
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: the transcript. Any praise for your buddy, that's done.

1014
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 7: For J.

1015
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 5: No praise J.

1016
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, none for J. Forget that guy, Chris, forget him.

1017
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: Forget J. Let's talk about Kate. In your mind.

1018
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: Is the most important thing that you can see in

1019
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: the game today is kid your kid a few field

1020
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: goal attempts and make them all.

1021
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 7: Yes. In fact, if we're on the opening drive and

1022
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 7: it's third. In short, I want to see dtr take

1023
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 7: a knee. Yep, I'm with you just because you know

1024
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 7: I listened to you earlier this week. I listened to

1025
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 7: you earlier this week where you were talking about the

1026
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 7: last drive and how you just almost wanted to see

1027
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 7: him have a field goal attempt or maybe Nathan was you,

1028
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 7: and then bow you said, well, what happens to the misses?

1029
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 7: And then he pulled boe and three this year on

1030
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 7: field goal tries?

1031
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah.

1032
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 7: It was a great discussion because we're all in the

1033
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 7: same boat, right and we understand the public face that

1034
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry are putting on here. And

1035
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 7: we're going to have Andrew in the booth during the

1036
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 7: third quarter tonight to talk to him. We're going to

1037
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 7: ask him about the kicking situation. And my point is this,

1038
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 7: I would like to know why they didn't bring in

1039
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 7: competition for him, not necessarily somebody that was going to

1040
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 7: take his job, but at least to ratchet it up

1041
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 7: a little bit there. It's hard to find there aren't

1042
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 7: thirty two good people doing this on the planet. I

1043
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 7: don't know if you guys noticed, but like the Dallas

1044
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 7: Cowboys just made a kicking change, the Rams didn't have

1045
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 7: a kicker until after the draft, Like, it's crazy how

1046
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 7: we cannot find thirty two human beings that can do

1047
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 7: this on a consistent basis. So it's very challenging. Last

1048
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 7: year was the lowest margin of victory in the NFL

1049
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 7: since the nineteen thirties for a single season, So that

1050
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 7: means there are plenty of games that are coming down

1051
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 7: to that last kick. We need to feel good as

1052
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 7: a fan base about it. And right now we're just

1053
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 7: on We're on shaky ground, and I think that the

1054
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 7: team understands that perception. I just think that they're hopeful

1055
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 7: much like we are.

1056
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, look forward to the call, buddy. Thank you so

1057
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: much for the time. Greatly appreciate it. The great Chris Rose,

1058
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: thanks about.

1059
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 7: As always. Guys. It's good catching up and uh, Nathan,

1060
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 7: I'll see you at the stadium, but I hope to see

1061
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 7: you around Cleveland at some point.

1062
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 5: Looking forward to a buddy there.

1063
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

1064
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 7: All right, Thank you guys.

1065
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: Joining us on the Twisted Tea Hotline, you'll hear Joel

1066
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: Buttonio coming up next. You'll listening to Cleveland Browns Daily

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1070
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Speaker 5: And now let's go to the podium and Joel Botonio. Thanks,

1074
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 5: got a little shity there with Devan Jones. What'd you see?

1075
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 6: You know, we're we're going in this week trying to

1076
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: get better in practice and work, and you know, sometimes

1077
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 6: there's some cheap shots and like that where you want

1078
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 6: to defend yourself and I don't know the exact situation,

1079
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 6: but there's a couple of shots today where you know,

1080
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 6: we're trying to make sure we're getting the best out

1081
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 6: of practice and not fighting. But it was just a

1082
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 6: little heated second day. It always gets a little bit

1083
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 6: more fired up.

1084
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 7: You know.

1085
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: Coach tried to calm things out to have all vehicles.

1086
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he taught. Yeah, it's, uh, we we don't

1087
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 6: want to fight out here, we want to get better

1088
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 6: and uh, when two teams are competing, things are going

1089
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 6: to get fired up. So it happens. But coach tried

1090
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 6: to calm us down and when he has the offense

1091
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 6: in their defense, so we try and control those situations.

1092
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 6: Butel it coming. Oh yeah, I mean that's why you

1093
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 6: do two days, because three days it would be uh

1094
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 6: bloodbath the last day. So uh even two days gets

1095
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 6: a little bit chippy. The second day. You know, you

1096
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 6: go back, you watch the film, You're like, oh, we

1097
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 6: got to do this better. They got to do this better.

1098
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 6: And you know the next day is going to be

1099
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 6: a little bit more ramped up. So is there some

1100
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 6: like some stuff that you get to like that they

1101
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 6: were doing. No, I mean it's just in our practice.

1102
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 6: You protect the quarterback. You don't want to come close

1103
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 6: to the quarterback. You don't want to take cheap shots

1104
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: things like that where there might have been a couple

1105
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 6: where you know, questionable you know, plays both ways today, how.

1106
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 8: Would did you walk off the field?

1107
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 5: How do you feel?

1108
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 8: You know, how do you how would you assess the

1109
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 8: way these two days went?

1110
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 6: Personally it was a little hot. So I'm a little tired.

1111
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 6: But no, I think there's some growth. You know, I

1112
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 6: think our defense, both defenses, I think yesterday probably won

1113
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 6: the day. You know, the last two minute period today.

1114
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 6: They obviously got the best of us, but I think

1115
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 6: there's some growth. Some guys stepped up today for us.

1116
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 6: You know, you get to fee against different rushers because

1117
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 6: in practice, I'm going against a couple of guys a day. Here,

1118
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 6: I get a couple of new guys, you know what

1119
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 6: I mean. So you feel some different rushes, you feel

1120
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: some different techniques. They have one of the better D

1121
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 6: lines in the league, maybe you know, some say the best.

1122
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 6: You know, we have a pretty good D line too,

1123
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 6: so it's, uh, it's good to go out there in

1124
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 6: battle and uh, you know, test out some of your

1125
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 6: your techniques.

1126
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 8: It looked like they were a lot of times in

1127
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 8: the eleven and eleven they were going with the one

1128
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 8: and Michael with the ones, and and Wyatt and James

1129
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 8: with the with the two. Was that kind of plan

1130
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 8: that they kind of mixing up some things.

1131
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think Jack got a little banged

1132
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 6: up and they wanted to get some rep for different

1133
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 6: guys and stuff and filled out. I don't know exact reasoning,

1134
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 6: but I know they just wanted to, you know, get

1135
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 6: get some reps. I know du Wan's been doing some

1136
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 6: good things. Michael does some good things. So I think

1137
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 6: they're just trying to get him some reps against different

1138
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 6: competition as well.

1139
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: Feel in general about doing these joint practices.

1140
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 9: I mean when a Mario was talking about it yesterdays

1141
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 9: like these are you know these.

1142
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 4: Are like playing any games since they're so intense, How do.

1143
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 6: You feel about doing Yeah, very intense. You know for me,

1144
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 6: it's like a game day. You know, you wake up,

1145
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 6: you have those kind of nerves and stuff. It's just

1146
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 6: it's just a little bit different atmosphere, you know. I

1147
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 6: think coach the Fancy does a good job of not

1148
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 6: the guys that practice a lot don't have to play

1149
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 6: in the game because it is like game like atmosphere.

1150
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 6: Woke up this morning a little bit sore and a

1151
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 6: little bit beat up. You know, you're on thirty thirty

1152
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 6: five full speed plays against the team and it's like

1153
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 6: half a game, so you get you get that feel.

1154
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 6: You know today was a little bit shorter stuff, but

1155
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 6: but no, it's it's good work.

1156
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 5: How does it feel with you know, even from the

1157
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 5: startup training, can't be able to have eat it alongside.

1158
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 5: I know last year he was kind of an inmitsipience

1159
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 5: of NTEL has have been who attempting on the finist

1160
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 5: training camp session.

1161
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's always locked in. It's good though, he's focused.

1162
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 6: It's good to you know, we got like twelve or

1163
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 6: thirteen starts last year out of him, and so to

1164
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 6: come out here and really get from camp, you start

1165
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 6: getting a better feel. You know, our whole line really

1166
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 6: I mean Posts coming back now, but our whole line

1167
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 6: really has been you know, together for four years will

1168
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 6: side the post. We're getting a little bit more comfortable

1169
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 6: understanding how each guy moves and the techniques and just

1170
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 6: communication and stuff there when he was.

1171
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: In the line and felt I mean, how much of

1172
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: county severally passed, you know, compared.

1173
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 5: To the past centers that may be.

1174
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 6: No, he's good. I mean I've had some good centers.

1175
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 6: You know, Jac and Alex are are my guys. But

1176
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 6: Posts right up there with him. You know, he comes

1177
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 6: out there and he communicates, he competes. You know, we

1178
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 6: joke around because he's so focused on every day. Sometimes

1179
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 6: I try and make him smile on the huddle and

1180
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 6: it never works. But now he's a good one to

1181
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 6: have out there.

1182
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 8: How does how do things change in terms of the

1183
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 8: ramp up? You know, now that you you have these

1184
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 8: two days of kind of evidence to you know, and

1185
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 8: and things.

1186
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: To build up them.

1187
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think for you know, an older guy like

1188
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 6: me is just continue to work my conditioning, make sure

1189
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 6: I get there many reps that I need in practice,

1190
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 6: focus on things I know we have like more of

1191
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 6: a simulated game week next week against Kansas City, So

1192
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 6: really try and hone in on your routine when it

1193
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 6: comes to that. But besides, I keyboard, and we're still

1194
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 6: a ways away, so there's a lot of time to

1195
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 6: to con you improve and get better as a team.

1196
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 5: Do you expect to play against Kansas City?

1197
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 6: I'm not sure yet. He has not told us.

1198
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 10: When you have the you know, two days of this

1199
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 10: and then you don't have another practice again until Sunday. Like,

1200
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 10: how do you digest these two practices? I guess in

1201
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 10: terms of like the watching film, what you take away

1202
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 10: from them, all that sort of stuff.

1203
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, the group, you know, we didn't have meetings lost

1204
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 6: like so late, but a lot of the group came

1205
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 6: in and watched it last night, we watched this morning,

1206
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 6: We'll watch it again tonight and tomorrow morning and digest

1207
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 6: that it's a lot of good work. And then you know,

1208
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 6: if you're not playing in the game, you find a

1209
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 6: way to get some work in, some flexibility stuff, take

1210
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 6: care of your body, get ready for next week, and

1211
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 6: cheer on the guys that are gonna be out there

1212
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 6: and competing.

1213
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: I know it's a red zone at all a concerns

1214
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: to the number one offense.

1215
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 6: I mean it's not just out Eric, but sturing camp

1216
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 6: it's been rough too. Yeah, we're working through it.

1217
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 7: You know.

1218
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 6: I think our defense sees the concepts that we're running

1219
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 6: in practice. So they saw throughout OTAs they saw throughout

1220
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 6: mini camp. We have some good players on defense, so

1221
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 6: they find some things. You know, today we didn't convert

1222
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 6: as much as we wanted, But I think it's stuff

1223
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 6: we're working through.

1224
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 7: You know.

1225
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 6: I think you want to see your defense compete early

1226
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 6: in camp because they usually have a step up on

1227
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 6: the offense. But I think we're working our way through

1228
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 6: and I am not concerned at this moment about it.

1229
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 6: I know it's a long process and you still got

1230
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 6: ninety guys here. But you know, looking back to last

1231
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 6: year and then.

1232
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 10: This year too, do you walk away from joint practices

1233
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 10: like this, have a good idea of like, Okay, this

1234
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 10: is who we are.

1235
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 6: This is the team we have to. You know, some guys,

1236
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 6: some guys step up, but it's such a long preseason

1237
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 6: that you don't know what's gonna happen in wise or

1238
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 6: trade wise or you know, cut downs. There's so much

1239
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 6: that goes into it, you know, and it feels like

1240
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 6: a team right now. When you have ninety guys. It's

1241
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 6: always hard when you cut down. You never know you

1242
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 6: know who you're gonna lose in the cutdowns. I asked

1243
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 6: them that I meant just like the personality or a team.

1244
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, you start to get an understanding for sure.

1245
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 6: You know, we have a lot of competitive guys our

1246
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 6: defensive line. I think you saw flashes of what they

1247
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 6: can be yesterday and today, so you definitely start to

1248
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 6: see personality stuff coming out. It's still not full speed,

1249
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 6: you know, Chubb's not getting tackled and things are like that,

1250
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 6: but it's you get a better understanding, for sure.

1251
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 10: It seems like Elija obviously hasn't been here long, but

1252
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 10: it just seems like you guys lose a lot when

1253
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 10: he's not out there and and team drills, I guess

1254
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 10: do you feel that difference when you're missing him in particular.

1255
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's gonna be one of our you know,

1256
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 6: I want to say queen on the chessboard. They can

1257
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 6: move everywhere, you know what I mean. I don't play chess,

1258
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 6: but I was trying to use a quote, but no,

1259
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 6: you know, and and and I think they want to

1260
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 6: get him the ball. They realize he's an explosive player.

1261
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 6: He's play some running back in his past. And I

1262
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 6: think they want to use our weapons, you know, whatever

1263
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 6: our strengths are, they want to use it. And he's

1264
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 6: a good compliments a Mari to David DPJ to Nick.

1265
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: So it's gonna it's gonna be good. I know he

1266
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 6: hasn't been out there. It'd been nice to see him

1267
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 6: out there the last couple of days. But we'll get

1268
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 6: him healthy for a week.

1269
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 3: One.

1270
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: Just from perspective on Botonio and where he's at, guys,

1271
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,959
Speaker 2: he's coming off of back to back first team All

1272
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: Pro seasons twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. Previous

1273
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: to that, it was three straight second team All Pro seasons.

1274
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: That's five All Pro nods consecutively now for Joe. Also

1275
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: five straight Pro Bowl appearances for Joel Buttonio. So what

1276
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: the long and short of it is, he stacks a

1277
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: couple of more of these and he's gonna be joining

1278
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: his good buddy Joe Thomas in the Hall of Fame

1279
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: with one of those gold jackets coming up next. What

1280
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 2: can you get out of the game as a fan?

1281
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: Plus Z, we'll go through position by positions and things

1282
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,360
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1292
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: zero to reserve your spot to day Zee, Let's just

1293
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: kind of go position group by position group in terms

1294
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: of where your eyes will be tonight. Obviously we'll start

1295
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: at quarterback and that one's pretty simple.

1296
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, my eyes are gonna be on my man dtr

1297
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: Coming off a game last week, he was nine of

1298
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: ten for one hundred and two yards and a touchdown

1299
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty two point five rating on the

1300
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 3: preseason as a holy seventeen of twenty one eighty one percent,

1301
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty forty yards passing two touchdowns, no picks,

1302
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 3: and a rating of one hundred and thirty five. He's

1303
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: led three touchdown drives of more than seventy five yards.

1304
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: I love the kid, I love his leadership, I love

1305
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 3: everything about him. I'm very excited to watch him. And

1306
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 3: then it was good to see Kellen Mond bounce back

1307
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: last week. I think Kellen Mond at this point, you know,

1308
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: was auditioning for a job somewhere else or to be

1309
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: on our practice squad. I think that's really where it's at.

1310
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: I think dtr has grabbed that third job for the

1311
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. Dobbs, you're number two, DeShawn your starter. But

1312
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 3: it was good to see Kellen Mond last week as well,

1313
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 3: go seven to twelve seventy nine yards and a touchdown

1314
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: one hundred and five ratings, so he looked much better.

1315
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 4: He's throw a touchdown in both games.

1316
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: I think he did a better job of you using

1317
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: his legs in Game two and kind of getting the ball,

1318
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, pushing it down the field a little bit more.

1319
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: So you want to see him continue to that because

1320
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 3: great kid, great great worker, and you want to see

1321
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 3: him continue to, you know, to have some success there

1322
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: at quarterback.

1323
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: See, we'll do the running backs, but a quick one

1324
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: before we get into that. Where are we with Jerome

1325
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: Ford don't know, you know, still out with that hamstring injury.

1326
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: And you know, I think Chris a great point is

1327
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: that we kind of I don't I want to say

1328
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: take it for granted.

1329
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 4: It's it's it's not.

1330
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 3: Similar to when the you know that we're just like, oh, yeah,

1331
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson's the number two pick. Why is he the

1332
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: number two pick? It's you know, he is the number

1333
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: two back. They like everything they've seen, but this is

1334
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: not somebody who's done it in the NFL. No, he

1335
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: barely played on offense. He got eight carries last year

1336
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 3: at the end of the season they went for twelve yards.

1337
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: He was a kick returner, really so productive at Cincinnati.

1338
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: But you know that's why I think, you know, you're

1339
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 3: watching all the people that if the Eagles don't carry

1340
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: for running backs, they're cutting somebody who is produced in

1341
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: the National Football League. If Michael Carter gets cut by

1342
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: the Jets, he is produced in the National Football League.

1343
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: So I think that that's what we're missing is a

1344
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 3: backup currently that has produced in the NFL. There is

1345
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: not one of those on our roster outside of Nick Chubb.

1346
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 3: So you know, you talk about a proven guy, like

1347
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: for a while we said, oh, we have one proven

1348
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: guy in the defensive tackle room. Well you go out

1349
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: and you get Shelby Harris, when now you have prood

1350
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 3: too proven in the National Football League guys. So at

1351
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: the running back vision, you don't have that. And now

1352
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 3: Jordan Wilke is actually, to be honest with you, the

1353
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: most proven. So I'm kind of curious to watch him.

1354
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: Jordan Wilkins for his career fifty four games, he's run

1355
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: it two hundred and eight times for one thousand and

1356
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: nine yards. That's four point nine yards of carry, four touchdowns.

1357
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: He can catch it. He has forty one career catches.

1358
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: He is the most proven in the NFL on our

1359
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 3: entire roster, former fifth round pick of the Colts in

1360
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, So I'm curious to see him. He's the

1361
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 3: one guy who I think could come out and with

1362
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 3: a strong performance, kind of insert his name back into

1363
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: really into the mix. Because he is a veteran, he's

1364
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: been in the league. He's going into his six season.

1365
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: He played at Old Miss. You know, this was a

1366
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: guy a consequence and when he averaged five yards of

1367
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 3: carry over two hundred carries in the NFL, you can

1368
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: play a little bit like there's no doubt. So's he's

1369
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: the guy that I'm probably the most interested to see

1370
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: in that room. I think Hassan Hall, the undrafted free agent,

1371
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 3: he's looking for practice squad. You know, you lose a

1372
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: fumble that that's very tough. Dimitric has played well. He's

1373
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: led the team in rushing in the preseason. He's averaging

1374
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: five yards of carry. So it's I think Dimitric and

1375
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: Wilt cans Gift it's on this roster. Those are the two.

1376
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm curiously what kind of work Wilkins gets. He just

1377
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: got signed this week, so you know, how much does

1378
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: he know? How much do they trust him?

1379
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: As we go to the receiver position, dicey times at

1380
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: the bottom of that grouping trying to figure out what

1381
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: the numbers could be there, and of course, much like

1382
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: at running back with Ford. We have the good one

1383
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: stuff where we were still waiting on that.

1384
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, look this one feels dicey.

1385
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 4: And you know our top four set.

1386
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 3: You know, I think if Marquis Goodwin plays our top

1387
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 3: five or set, so then it becomes what's happening after that?

1388
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: And you know, David Bell came alive last week. Three catches,

1389
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: thirty three yards, he had that touchdown. That was his

1390
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: best game so far. You know, we haven't seen Jalen

1391
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: Darden at all, and I think that's unfortunate. One of

1392
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 3: the great sayings. And I know that you know this

1393
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 3: from a lot of guys who have played in the

1394
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 3: league and they all use it.

1395
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 4: You can't make the club from the tub.

1396
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's unfortunately kind of where we're at with

1397
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: Jalen Darted. He has all the speed you would have

1398
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: wanted to see. You know, Anthony Schwartz at this point

1399
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: he had he he actually had some nice days against

1400
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: the Eagles, but it just has not happened with the

1401
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: lights on bright And then the question is what do

1402
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: we know about ja Kiem Grant. Kim Grant's got one

1403
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 3: hundred catches, eleven hundred and forty yards, nine touchdowns is

1404
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: a receiver in his career does he still have that

1405
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: juice coming off of the achilles, you know, to be

1406
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: the returner and be worthy of a roster spot, but

1407
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: or also to be maybe that sixth receiver for you.

1408
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: So and then there's Austin Watkins who's just done everything

1409
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: you could want. Eight catches, one hundred and six yards

1410
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: and a touchdown on the preseason leading receiver in both games.

1411
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: You know, is he somebody that would you make six

1412
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 3: three good size? Does he make your roster? I don't

1413
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 3: know about that, but he might be a guy now

1414
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 3: that's played his way onto somebody else's roster or certainly

1415
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: onto our practice squad. So I the depth of receiver

1416
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 3: is because if Marquis Goodwin's there, you're not worried at

1417
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: all about the receiver room at all because you've got

1418
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: all the little pieces, all the little flavors. If Marquis

1419
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: Goodwin is not there, you have a hole in that

1420
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: vertical receiver game, which we've talked about is so important

1421
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 3: to this football team for years, just to be the

1422
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: spreads the field and make space.

1423
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked to like when when we first

1424
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: were having conversation about Goodwin at the Greenbrier. I mean,

1425
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: I would have thought we would have known by now.

1426
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: I kind of got the sense that it would be

1427
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: a little bit sooner of an answer on that.

1428
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 5: Yep.

1429
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see it's it's going the answer will

1430
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: come prior to the season, so we will know if

1431
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: if he's if he's going to be available. It just

1432
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 3: it's gonna be one of those things that you just

1433
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: won't know until you know.

1434
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I understand, see is it

1435
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like he will be

1436
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: in for the season or he will be out for

1437
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: the season, that.

1438
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 3: He will be he'll be in for the season, or

1439
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: he will be out for at least the majority of

1440
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: the season.

1441
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's the way I was kind of reading

1442
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: it minimally, because when you're dealing with the blood clots,

1443
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: they need to be gone before you can return to action.

1444
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: And if it's I think that the course of treatment

1445
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: is a multi month treatment if they are not gone.

1446
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: Hoping for good news there. He's such a great guy.

1447
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 4: I got a chance to do.

1448
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 3: I had lunch with him yesterday.

1449
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 4: Was that or two days ago? He is He's great,

1450
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: you know, you're he's you.

1451
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 3: You want him on the team for a lot of

1452
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 3: reasons from his talent, but you just he's a guy

1453
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: that and I think it's been great that he's killed

1454
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: come around. You know, he's around at every practice, travels

1455
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 3: on all these trips, which is he got to be

1456
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: hard for him, and he's so willing to help everybody

1457
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: in that room. He's he's great. I can't say enough

1458
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: good things about Markue's.

1459
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 5: Goodwin offensive line.

1460
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about in terms of of the

1461
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: guys there. Let's go to the defensive side positionally, the

1462
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: the interior, right, I mean, that's probably where the biggest

1463
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: questions are. It feels like on the edge, we're pretty

1464
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: well locked in.

1465
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know a watch Tyrone Wheatley Junior.

1466
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: He didn't give up a pressure in the preseason game.

1467
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of buzz. He was actually our

1468
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: top graded offensive lineman at Pro Football Focused last week.

1469
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 3: Keep an eye on him as somebody who couldn't know

1470
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 3: if he can make this roster. But does he become

1471
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 3: is he a practice squad guy or is he somebody

1472
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 3: that plays so well that you might even have to

1473
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 3: trade him. You know, what I mean that he might

1474
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: be somebody that garners some trade conversation on the inside.

1475
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: I think what I'm watching for tonight is, you know,

1476
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: does Luke Whippler get more reps at guard? Are they

1477
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 3: going to try to figure out a way to get

1478
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: both Nick Harris and Luke Whippler on the interior? Because

1479
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: you know what you're said on the outside with with

1480
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 3: Hudson and Dwan Jones. You know, do you keep Whippler?

1481
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 3: Do you keep ten? Do you keep Whipler Harris and

1482
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: then hopefully Drew Forbes's back. If not, maybe Michael Dunn,

1483
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 3: do you keep ten on the offensive line going into

1484
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: the season, because the thought would be, you know, we

1485
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: probably can't get you know, Harris or Whippler necessarily to

1486
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 3: the practice squad.

1487
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 5: So I don't know how feasible. I don't even know

1488
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 5: how possible to do fe would be.

1489
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: But like the Jets are having all sorts of problem

1490
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: with their offensive line, it feels like we could use

1491
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: a running back to come in.

1492
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 5: I mean, that would be isn't that a dance partner?

1493
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 4: Where of course, you.

1494
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: Know, because we have such an embarrassment of riches on

1495
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line, it's ridiculous.

1496
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: Our third string is the best third string in Yeah,

1497
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: I think by a wide margin.

1498
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: I think the two yeah too. I mean I think

1499
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: that that feels like maybe a call should be made

1500
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: and we've done We've danced with them before on the

1501
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: trade stuff, so maybe maybe there's a spot there. We

1502
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: got to hit Jeff kerhurt here coming up briefly but defensively.

1503
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: Give me a couple of things where your eyes will

1504
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 2: be paying attention tonight.

1505
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I still think that there's a lot to prove

1506
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 3: for Jordan Elliott, Maurice Hurst, Tommy Tokii in that battle

1507
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 3: to be the last defensive tackle. You want to see

1508
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 3: Isaiah Maguire flash a little bit because with Alex right out,

1509
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: he's going to be count on to be your fourth

1510
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 3: defensive end, the line backing position.

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01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 7: You know.

1512
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 3: I feel like with the injury of Jacob Phillips, that

1513
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 3: feels like you're a little more set there with you

1514
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: who your top six are. And then on the back end,

1515
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 3: you know Hickman d Anthony Bell, how do they continue

1516
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 3: to play? And I hope we see cam Mitchell. I

1517
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 3: know that he left practice on against Philly on Tuesday.

1518
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: I hope he's able to go because he's been really

1519
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 3: impressive for the Cleveland Browns and he's a young rookie

1520
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 3: that's that's shown a lot, so he's somebody that I

1521
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 3: also want to really give a good look to there.

1522
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: But you know, most of my eyes, like we said,

1523
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 3: for things that truly truly matter in this game, it's

1524
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 3: gonna be on Kadi York and then everything else. You know,

1525
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of a lot of fun guys to watch,

1526
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 3: a lot of guys competing, I think, you know, and

1527
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: like I said in tiaror of the defensive line, I

1528
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 3: love watching our two undrafted free agent linebackers play, Diabadi

1529
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: and Charlie Thomas. I love watching both of those guys play.

1530
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 3: So you can, you can give me all of them

1531
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 3: their action you want. But that's kind of I think

1532
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: where we're at right now, that's what it's that's what

1533
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: it's looking for for the Browns and really kind of

1534
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: what's at stake and where there are opportunities to maybe

1535
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 3: make moves.

1536
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 2: All right, all of it will be on display tonight

1537
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: against the defending NFC champion Philadelphia Eagles. Jeff Kerr covers

1538
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: the Eagles. He's a great friend of the program, he

1539
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 2: joins us. Coming up next, this is Cleveland Browns Daily

1540
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: on a fifty ESPN.

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bett

1542
01:10:53,439 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, All.

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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: Right, time to go behind enemy lines with our good buddy,

1544
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: CBS Sports and Eagles reporter for ninety seven point three

1545
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: ESPN and Philly is Jeff Curry. He joins us on

1546
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to you by Twisted Hard

1547
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: Iced Tea, official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Jeff,

1548
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: thanks so much for taking the time. Let's just dig

1549
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: right in. I'm actually going to have you do a

1550
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: little role reversal if you don't mind. You were at

1551
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: these practices, and sometimes I'm curious how an opposing guy

1552
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: who covers an opposing team views our team. And obviously

1553
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: you got a front row seat with these joint practices.

1554
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: What did you make of what the Browns were in

1555
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,480
Speaker 2: these practices?

1556
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 9: The first thing I noticed for Cleveland is I was

1557
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 9: already a big fan of their defensive line before I

1558
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 9: saw him live. After watching Miles Garrett on Monday, I'm

1559
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 9: like Yeah, this is the best defensive line he's ever

1560
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,959
Speaker 9: played with. You know, obviously you got guys like Sadarius

1561
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 9: Smith on that just I just couldn't believe what they

1562
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 9: were doing to the Eagles offensive line. Now. I know

1563
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 9: Landon Dickerson left with an injury, Jason Kelsey got a

1564
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 9: little banged off, but those guys were having their way

1565
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 9: all Monday, I will see. I think this Cleveland Browns

1566
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 9: team is going to be better than what people think,

1567
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 9: and I think they'd be getting more hype if they

1568
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 9: weren't in the AFC, specifically the AFC nor but you

1569
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 9: can tell this is a talented football team. I don't know,

1570
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 9: I can't project a win total for them, but this

1571
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 9: is definitely a team that I feel if someone said

1572
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 9: the Cleveland Browns could win the AFC, norm I would

1573
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 9: believe it.

1574
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, what it was, So you talked about the defense,

1575
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: and I think that was what a lot of people

1576
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 3: kind of took away from those first couple of days.

1577
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 3: And you know, you didn't get to see Elijah Moore,

1578
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 3: which I wish you did because he's been such a

1579
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 3: big part of what we've done. But just kind of overall,

1580
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 3: you know, you think about a year ago in these

1581
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 3: joint practices, that felt like the Browns were kind of

1582
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: outclassed physically, just generally, not defensive line only, But did

1583
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: you feel like the Browns look like a team that

1584
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: belonged on the field with the Eagles from a physical

1585
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: standpoint and a town standpoint.

1586
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 9: I believe so. So last year, everything I've got ole

1587
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 9: of Cleveland was Okay, the Eagles are really good and

1588
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 9: the Browns aren't, and we're like, okay, well, maybe Cleveland

1589
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 9: will be better in the regular seat this year. I

1590
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 9: think Cleveland can match up with one of the big

1591
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 9: boys of the NFC, if not the big boy of

1592
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 9: the NFC. And from what I thought, I was watching

1593
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 9: Deshaun Watson a little bit. I was mostly focused on

1594
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 9: Cleveland's defense, but I thought Deshaun Watson looked a lot

1595
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 9: more crisp than he did last year. He just looked

1596
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,520
Speaker 9: like he had that full all season under his belt,

1597
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 9: none of the distractions. I was amazed, Like I was

1598
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 9: ready for the responses when I took a picture of

1599
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 9: him signing autographs for Eagles fans, and I thought I'd

1600
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 9: get the normal responses and I didn't get him. And

1601
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 9: I was like Okay, so maybe you know his head's

1602
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 9: cleared every you know he can move on, he can

1603
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 9: focus on football, focus on winning games for Cleveland. But

1604
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 9: overall like that, I like the way Cleveland's team was.

1605
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 9: I just think they're more of a well rounded team

1606
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 9: and I think, especially with the defense, I think Jim

1607
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 9: Schwartz is going to make a huge impact on them,

1608
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 9: just like he did in Philadelphia seven years ago.

1609
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's stay there, Jeff, with with Jim and his

1610
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: defense and the pieces that he has to work with.

1611
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: You obviously know Jim well from his time in Philly

1612
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 2: and the type of efforts he did there. What characteristics

1613
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: can Browns fans expect to see out of this defense

1614
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: that maybe we didn't see the past couple of years.

1615
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 9: So get ready for the Sticks defense. I'm gonna warn

1616
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 9: you guys. Now, you guys might get a little upset

1617
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 9: at the third and fifteens when someone gets like thirteen

1618
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 9: fourteen yards and you're like, Oh, why's he doing that?

1619
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 9: Why aren't they put something like That's just not what

1620
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 9: Jim does. Jim likes to rush for So that's why

1621
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 9: they got sa Darius Smith, right, so you have someone

1622
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 9: who can counter Miles Garrett, like David Clowney just wasn't

1623
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 9: that guy last year and you paid him a lot

1624
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 9: of money for that. Now you're paying a guy who

1625
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 9: I ranked as one top edge rushers in football. And

1626
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 9: you know, Miles Garrett was obviously one of them. But

1627
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 9: I just loved that front. And then now you have

1628
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 9: Shelby Harris to the mix. I thought that was a

1629
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 9: good signing for Cleveland. I like the linebacker corps a lot.

1630
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1631
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 9: It's by the way, I have to add this in.

1632
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 9: How good was Denzel Ward on in Monday's practice? It

1633
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 9: wasn't he like as good as I'll say this the

1634
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 9: go ahead guys.

1635
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 4: Well, you think it was the best mirror in football?

1636
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree. And DeVonta Smith was. To me, he's

1637
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 9: one of the best route runners in the sport right now.

1638
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 9: Him and a mom ros Saint Brown are probably too

1639
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 9: of the top ten route runners. And Denzel Ward was

1640
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 9: holding his not only holding his own, it's it was

1641
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 9: they were going back and forth and I'm like, Okay,

1642
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 9: this is what I if I'm a fan, that's what

1643
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 9: I'm paying to see. And it's a shame fans won't

1644
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 9: get to see that tonight in the preseason game. But

1645
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 9: anybody who was at that joint practice, it's I mean,

1646
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 9: that was about as even as a drawl as you

1647
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 9: could get.

1648
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a it was a who's who

1649
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 3: to coming out to watch at former gms from all

1650
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: around the league, a lot of analysts. There were a

1651
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: ton of people to come watch these practices. And what's

1652
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 3: what struck me is, you know, with Deshaun and Chubb

1653
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 3: and you know, Botonio and Amari and you know why

1654
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 3: Teller's been a two Pro Bowlers, two Pro Bowls, there

1655
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 3: were it felt like on both fields when things are

1656
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 3: going on simultaneously, you had, you know, a handful of

1657
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers on both sides of the ball. On both

1658
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 3: fields at the same time. There was just a ton

1659
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: of star power. And I think for the Browns we

1660
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 3: talked about the size, Yeah, that's it, that's a change,

1661
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 3: but just the amount of star power that was on

1662
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball felt like very different from

1663
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 3: last year for me certainly. And you know, you're going

1664
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: against a team and the Eagles at what I think

1665
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 3: eight guys to the Pro Bowl.

1666
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 9: A year ago, Yeah, exactly. And I didn't think Jalen

1667
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 9: Hurts was that great on Monday. I thought he was

1668
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 9: phenomenal on Tuesday. And I think it was maybe all

1669
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 9: that film study he did on Cleveland's defense and Schwartz

1670
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 9: because that's the first time he saw that. And you

1671
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 9: could tell the difference between Monday and Tuesday. With the

1672
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 9: Eagles offense, it's it's okay, they got in, they watched

1673
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 9: the film and they're like, okay, well let's try this.

1674
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 9: But I still I still thought Cleveland's held their own

1675
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 9: both both days. It's it's definitely the Cleveland Browns are

1676
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 9: going to be a defensive football team, but they have

1677
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 9: a franchise quarterback in Deshaun Watson. They have one of

1678
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 9: the best running backs of the game in Nick Schulb.

1679
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 9: And I still said that I would have given Cleveland

1680
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 9: the edge over for Philadelphia Monday if Amari Cooper would

1681
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 9: have caught those passes he dropped towards the end.

1682
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1683
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's characteristic for him and he normally comes back.

1684
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 3: I just want to say, you mentioned were their offense

1685
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 3: looked a little bit better on the second day. There's

1686
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 3: also no Miles Garrett in those team periods, and Miles

1687
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: Garrett was a problem for them on Monday, and the

1688
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: combo of Miles and Zadarius and Obo and Dalvin was

1689
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: a real problem. So Miles, he's a difference maker, isn't he?

1690
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 3: And you see, there are a lot of them. It

1691
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 3: felt like on those two defensive lines in terms of

1692
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 3: just like top line talent, there might not be two

1693
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: more talented groups. And then maybe you know, Washington is

1694
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 3: probably in that discussion of the Niners. But that's that's

1695
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 3: pretty good stuff there.

1696
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 9: Well, I think that's what I was so amazing about Miles.

1697
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 9: So I have to rank the edge rushers every year

1698
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 9: in the past, rushers like, Okay, where do I put

1699
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 9: Miles Garrett here? Because I'm I've always want to play

1700
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 9: number one. I'm like, do I really want to put

1701
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 9: him number one over the actual defensive player of the year.

1702
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 9: And I you know, I checked out. I put Miles

1703
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 9: at two. I really check it down. I tied him

1704
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 9: and wat And you know, as someone who's seen Miles

1705
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 9: up close, now, I'm like, if someone told me Miles

1706
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 9: Garrett was the best pass rusher in football, I'm not

1707
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 9: gonna disagree with him. I mean, he Jordan Mallia is

1708
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 9: one of the best left tackles in the game right now,

1709
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 9: and Miles absolutely wrecked him. I mean, he was just

1710
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 9: all over the place. And I think a lot of

1711
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 9: that has to do with Smith on the other side.

1712
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 9: You gotta worry about him. And I was hoping that

1713
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 9: they'd line up Miles against Lane Johnson just for fun,

1714
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 9: but I knew it wasn't gonna happen, but that would

1715
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 9: have been something to just watch. Basically, seven hundred pounds

1716
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 9: of force just collide.

1717
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: Well, that's what was cool post game too, Jeff, as

1718
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: you saw those two hooking up, you saw Miles with

1719
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 2: with Lane postgame, those video going around to those two

1720
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: kind of like just working on their craft, and I think,

1721
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, that's something that was so valuable. We spent

1722
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: much time talking about the trenches. But and it's probably

1723
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: not a coincidence you think about ab, you know, with

1724
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: with Howie in the time he spent there, Like these

1725
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 2: two teams in the trenches you want to do offense

1726
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: and defensive lines combined, these two might be the two

1727
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: best in the sport.

1728
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 9: Oh absolutely. And I always forget Andrew Berry went to

1729
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 9: Cleveland honestly because he's under studies of Philly. So but

1730
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 9: Barry did a lot for the Eagles when he was here,

1731
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 9: when he was working with Roseman, then you knew it

1732
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 9: was a matter of time before he was going to leave.

1733
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 9: And I remember seeing him right away. I'm like, oh, yeah,

1734
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 9: that's right. I'm like, I kept it's been a couple

1735
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 9: of years now he's been with Cleveland, but it just

1736
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 9: feels like he's building a foundation there. It's like, Okay,

1737
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 9: we got the quarterback, we got him locked up, let's

1738
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 9: work on the trenches and everything else will take care

1739
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 9: of himself. And I mean you see the talent on

1740
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 9: that roster. I mean there are there's a lot of

1741
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 9: players on Cleveland. You're like, wait, he's on the Browns

1742
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 9: or wait, like this guy's a Cleveland Brown And You're like, yeah,

1743
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 9: he's and he's pretty good. And but I would say

1744
01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 9: this of Clearon's of Cleveland's offensive line, Joel Patoni and

1745
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 9: why tell her or by Farta two best guards at

1746
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 9: least in my opinion, in the league guard combination. And

1747
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 9: I still can't get over what Jalen Carr was able

1748
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 9: to do to Potonio on both days. And I'm like, okay,

1749
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 9: so how could she? Yeah, I go, how could is

1750
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 9: Jalen Carter gonna be like, this is Joel Buttonio here,

1751
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 9: Like he was visibly upset during that practice. It's probably like, wait,

1752
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 9: this kid's like destroying me. Like there are pro bowlers

1753
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 9: that can't do that.

1754
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joel Patonio doesn't give up a whole lot, I

1755
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: think one second. I think in the last two seasons.

1756
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, Jalen Carter, he was impressive. So we have

1757
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 3: young guys that are big and impressive. What do you

1758
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 3: think make of a Dewan Jones And he got to

1759
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: get in there on Tuesday and held his own against

1760
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 3: Brandon Graham.

1761
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1762
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 9: I was kind of surprised that Swan Jones was able

1763
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 9: to do that, honestly. And is he in the battle

1764
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 9: for like any of the starting spots or is it

1765
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 9: kind of like or is it because Coughlin was out

1766
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 9: he he kind of is like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So,

1767
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 9: I mean, but that's good depth for Cleveland, right, I mean,

1768
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 9: I kind of wish the Eagles had the Eagles right now.

1769
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 9: They don't know who their number three tackle is going

1770
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 9: to be because obviously Andre Dillard's now out in Tennessee,

1771
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 9: so you're looking at it might be Tyler Steen. I

1772
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 9: mean He's probably been the best of the bunch that

1773
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 9: they've tried to have a couple of guys there. Fred

1774
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 9: Johnson as you guys well know, you know, he's one

1775
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 9: of his guys. So it's I mean, I was impressed

1776
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 9: with Jones, I really was. I thought he held his

1777
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 9: own against BG. I even get to see him against

1778
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,879
Speaker 9: Nolan Smith, though. Did Nolan Smith go against him?

1779
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 4: I don't remember that.

1780
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 3: I remember that when they were doing the ones, it

1781
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 3: was Brandon Graham that was lined up opposite him.

1782
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I will say this, Miles Garrett said

1783
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 9: it best. I thought it was just a healthy competition

1784
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 9: between both teams, Like both squads got better this week.

1785
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 9: Like a lot of teams like to do joint practices

1786
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 9: against quote unquote inferior opponents. I don't think the Eagles

1787
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 9: and Browns are like that. I think the Browns want

1788
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 9: to go against the best. I think the Eagles want

1789
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 9: to go against the team that they know can get

1790
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 9: that better. I actually thought this Eagles team is going

1791
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 9: to be good. I'll say this. After that Browns joint

1792
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 9: training camp practice, I'm like, Okay, this team is going

1793
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 9: to be good this year. It's just how good they're

1794
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 9: going to be. I'm starting to think that about the

1795
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 9: Browns too, Like if they weren't in the AFC North,

1796
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 9: but they were in like say the AFC South, I

1797
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 9: say they we run away with it. But if they

1798
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 9: can just beat Baltimore, if they can beat Pittsburgh, they

1799
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 9: can beat Cincinnati. You know, go forward to against the division,

1800
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 9: You're you're probably looking at a ten win football team here.

1801
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, we certainly hope.

1802
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you going into this game,

1803
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 2: like there's gonna be it's gonna be a lot of

1804
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: the deep depth chart guys that are in there. But

1805
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: I was looking at the I mean, we have some

1806
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: questions right now running back just because be kind Nick,

1807
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: you've got an injury to Jerome for we just don't

1808
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 2: know what that's going to be in terms of for

1809
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: our fans perspective. And I'm just looking at the depth

1810
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: of like the Eagles running back room. Who are some

1811
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: guys that that maybe could be maybe not making this

1812
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: final roster, that that we could have some interest in.

1813
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 9: Tredy Turman is gonna be a guy for you guys

1814
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 9: to watch, because I mean the bull prediction Eagles are

1815
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 9: gonna keep all five of them, and that's not gonna happen.

1816
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 9: That's not gonna happen. That that was three weeks ago

1817
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 9: before camp. That definitely is not gonna happen. So Kenny Gamewell,

1818
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 9: as you guys saw, was the one, uh for the Eagles,

1819
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 9: and it's DeAndre Squit. Those two are definitely playing. Rashat Penny.

1820
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 9: I think he makes the team. I think the Eagles

1821
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 9: like what Rashat Penny brings. You're not paying them much,

1822
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 9: but they cut of you're Cleveland. You got to scoop

1823
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 9: that up, right. You got to get a guy that

1824
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 9: is behind you know, Nick Schubb. Obviously you had free

1825
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 9: Hunt and Deorra Johnson for how many years? And yeah,

1826
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 9: so Penny's a guy to watch. Boston's got I think

1827
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 9: the Eagles keep him. They really like him. He's been

1828
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 9: in the system now. I think it's a sixth year

1829
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 9: in the system. Seventh year actually came here in twenty seventeen.

1830
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 9: So uh yeah, I mean Drey Sermon tonight, I would

1831
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 9: definitely be watching him. I definitely watched to see it

1832
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,799
Speaker 9: for shot Penny play tonight. I don't I don't believe

1833
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 9: a lot of stuff. Nick Serrey, ay says anymore. And

1834
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 9: he didn't play Kenny game well the first game and

1835
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 9: bosson Scott and he's like, well, we're rotating the backs.

1836
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, okay, Nick, Kenny game, well still your

1837
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 9: first running back and you'll show it on Monday, and

1838
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 9: he did. So I'm curious to see what's running backs

1839
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,879
Speaker 9: plate the night. I don't think it's gonna be swift.

1840
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 9: I do think we might see Penny, but I wouldn't

1841
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 9: be shocked we'dnt see him here. But I think for

1842
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 9: the browns sake they I think for the brown sake,

1843
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 9: you gotta see Penny and serving the night. Anybody who

1844
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 9: didn't play the first two days in the destroying practices,

1845
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 9: I think we're gonna see.

1846
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be fun. I'm excited. I

1847
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 3: have a question just kind of on the depth as well.

1848
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 3: They have a lot of corners. There a lot of corners,

1849
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 3: and you think about the undrafted free agents. You know,

1850
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 3: you get Garner who was at LSU in his last year.

1851
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: You get pick six Ricks, who started with LSU as

1852
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 3: an All American as a freshman, finishes at Alabama, goes undrafted,

1853
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: and I'm sure there's gotta be much more of a

1854
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 3: story there.

1855
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,480
Speaker 4: But how are these kind of young corners.

1856
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 3: In our Is this a team that's gonna be and

1857
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 3: you got Greedy from us who s he can play

1858
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 3: former second round pick?

1859
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 4: No, how are these corners looking.

1860
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 9: So Greedy might get I'll tell you what. Greed's probably

1861
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 9: getting cut because of Gardner, because of Ricks, like like

1862
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 9: they're just out playing. Like Greed's not even the factor

1863
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 9: right now. So it's Josh Jove's the third guy on

1864
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 9: the boundary. You got Zach McPherson and Vonta Max in

1865
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 9: the slot. Obviously got slain in Bradberry. So that's five.

1866
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 9: So it's who's gonna be the sixth right now? And

1867
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 9: it's not gonna be Greed. I'll say it's probably Eli Ricks.

1868
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 9: I don't want to say he's the favorite right now.

1869
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 9: I think Gardner is because he can play some safety. Obviously,

1870
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 9: you guys know that from the LSU days. What about

1871
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 9: well the Yo yo, Yeah, Gailey Ringos so again, yeah,

1872
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 9: I forget so yeah, So he's on the team. So, yeah,

1873
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 9: there's gonna be somebody available. It's basically one of those

1874
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 9: guys have to beat out Zach McPherson. I think that's

1875
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 9: how it's gonna play out. And the Eagles, like Hal

1876
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 9: McPherson can play slot, he can play out that you

1877
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 9: dude a backup Solock corner, but I mean that can

1878
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 9: do it all. Like he's a guy that Yeah, exactly,

1879
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 9: he's a special teamer, and I think that's what's going

1880
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 9: to be the difference. So you guys need cornerbacks. I

1881
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 9: definitely be watching Ricks and Gardner tonight. Like I know

1882
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 9: Eagles fans want to keep Ricks on the team, but

1883
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 9: it's like many Josh shows from playing well, you know

1884
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 9: you're not going to call the four round picking Kilee Ringo.

1885
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 6: I mean, who you go with?

1886
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 9: I knew I was forgetting somebody there. When you guys asking,

1887
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 9: by the way, I'm like, who am I forgetting amongst

1888
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 9: this group? And I'm glad you guys mentioned that.

1889
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm very helpful when I have my I have my

1890
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 3: boards right in front of house, so.

1891
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 4: It makes it very easy.

1892
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: Jeff, thank you so much for your time. But I

1893
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 2: always appreciate the conversation.

1894
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, it sounds good. You gotta be there tonight. I

1895
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 9: will be there, yes, sir, all right, I'll see you

1896
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 9: to night.

1897
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 4: All right, sounds good Jeff.

1898
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Kerr, Eagles reporter at ninety seven point three

1899
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: ESPN and Philly and then at CBS Sports.

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Speaker 5: So much more to come. You listen to Cleevel the

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Speaker 2: I'd give me one thought for tonight, my friend, give

1905
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: me one thought.

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01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Let's go cade enjoy the DTR show and uh, let's

1907
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 3: see who can you know who can step up kind

1908
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 3: of in that running back room. I think that's really

1909
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 3: what you want to see on offense is DTR keep

1910
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 3: doing his thing and then you know what is Jordan

1911
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 3: Wilkins show? Watch those watch those Philly backs as they

1912
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 3: mentioned as well. But the one thing to me is

1913
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 3: Kve York. That the one thing that could come out

1914
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 3: of this game that I feel like I could impact

1915
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 3: this season is is Cave York.

1916
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 4: So that's where my eyes will be.

1917
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you talk about Wilkins, he's like, you know,

1918
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 2: when you think about somebody who potentially could actually be

1919
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: the two it for, Yeah, maybe him, you know, because

1920
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Felton is a very different player. But like if if

1921
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: Ford is out for an extended period, then that needs

1922
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: to be sorted out.

1923
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 5: So that's what I want to pay attention to.

1924
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 4: Agreed.

1925
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's kind of where my that's where my

1926
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: folks lee. And then can they you know, Whippler, Dewan Jones,

1927
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: Nick Harris, the three of them, do they go out

1928
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 3: and bawl again? Tyrone Wheatley to your point, he could

1929
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 3: become a trade piece to help address one of these

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