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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middle Coop three and

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Speaker 1: Out podcast. Back at it again Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I

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Speaker 1: don't know when you're listening. I'm recording this. We're almost

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Mike Glennon just eviscerate advance Joseph, who might

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Speaker 1: be the most overrated coach in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that the national media

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Speaker 1: know if Cliff Kingsbury is very good. I have a

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Speaker 1: massive red flag on him. We'll dive into this in

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Speaker 1: a second, but I'm gonna talk about I got some

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Billy O'Brien coming up. See the worst gym

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Speaker 1: of what it's symbolizes, how gambling is kind of like

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Speaker 1: what weed is becoming in America. And then we always

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Speaker 1: do the Middlecoff mail bag at John middlecoff is by

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Speaker 1: Instagram handle that you slide right in and I'll answer

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Speaker 1: your questions on the podcast. Easiest way to get a

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Speaker 1: hold of me, easier in phone to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: but start with uh, we're getting the hard knocks here

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Speaker 1: in one a second, but we're really quick. On the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals already, I already can't stand Cliff Kingsbury. Not because

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Speaker 1: he's not a good guy, not because of the character

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Speaker 1: stuff which I heard. He's an awesome guy, hard working,

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Speaker 1: actually be good friends with him. I just despise his offense.

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Speaker 1: The clapbs at the line of scrimmage which Kyler was

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Speaker 1: I just hate all that crap. He's basically a skinnier,

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Speaker 1: tanner version of Chip Kelly. This ain't gonna work in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's just not. But one thing that I

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Speaker 1: terrible this year for the Arizona Cardinals, and he wasn't

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Speaker 1: He's just not a good He's not a good coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He's definitely not a good head coach. He's a position

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Speaker 1: coach at best. Like, just because you're a coach doesn't

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Speaker 1: one listens, I'd suck, right, just if I'm You're not

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Speaker 1: a good salesman if you can't sell. Coaching is one

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Speaker 1: of those professions where you keep getting hired because you

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Speaker 1: can stink like I know this advanced Joseph is the

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Speaker 1: I want him. There would anyone ever say that about

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. Jon Gruden was the superstar. Jon Gruden is

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Speaker 1: other sports, where in baseball they're paying managers eight K.

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Speaker 1: and he's he's trying to mold the millennials. I don't

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Speaker 1: We understand we're humans. Were no different than any generation.

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Speaker 1: all the time. Imagine like I'm listening again. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say reading, but I'm listening audiobook to Shoodog Phil Knight.

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Speaker 1: Any book you've ever read, Just think about it. Imagine

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Speaker 1: if you read the first draft that they didn't get

428
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Speaker 1: to edit. Think about that. Think about if every marketing

429
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: slogo we've ever heard or ads on television that you

430
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: here on this podcast was an unedited version, was like

431
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Speaker 1: the first draft. Just they were thrown together in a

432
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Speaker 1: marketing meeting. That's not the way the world works. If

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Speaker 1: it's quote unquote called practice. I don't give a ship

434
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Speaker 1: how much you screw up now. I don't want to

435
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Speaker 1: throw a pick every play, but yeah, it happens whatever.

436
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Speaker 1: I don't even think. I think it speaks more to

437
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: the fever and the the importance and the impact of

438
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: just stuff at training camp practice. I think it speaks

439
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: to how much the consumer you me yarned for this information.

440
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I didn't WHOA. That's kind of crazy.

441
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it meant nothing to me and or

442
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: meant nothing to you. We all probably retweeted it or

443
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: talked about it like it's it's a major story. But

444
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: I just think it's crazy that it is a major story.

445
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: It shows you the world of media, social media we

446
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: live in, and I'm a huge part of it. Again,

447
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: I love it. I embrace it. When people are it's

448
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: it's overkill. No, I want it even bigger. That means

449
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: my business is bigger. I want more of you to

450
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Speaker 1: care about practice. That's a good thing. I'll talk about practice,

451
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Speaker 1: though I don't think it means anything. Now. If he

452
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Speaker 1: throws picks in games, then we got a problem. Then

453
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: we got a big time problem. But throwing picks in practice,

454
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Speaker 1: that's where you work things out. Who was I listening to?

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Speaker 1: Who was I listening to? I can't remember. It was like, uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was coach read. I don't think

457
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Speaker 1: it was Sean Payton. It might have been a Bruce

458
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Speaker 1: Arians I can't remember off the top of my head,

459
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: but it was high level offensive coordinator. Hell, it might

460
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: have been Sean McVeigh and they were just talking like

461
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: in practice, when we get certain looks I want him

462
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Speaker 1: to throw the ball in that certain area, you know.

463
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes football so complicated for

464
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Speaker 1: so many people, is what if it was a period

465
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Speaker 1: in practice and I don't even know. I think Kyle said, like, yes,

466
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Speaker 1: it was an idea. I'm not saying Kyle was saying

467
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: that he was supposed to throw the picks. But you

468
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: often hear coaches talk and quarterbacks talk about it, especially

469
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Speaker 1: the coaches though, because the quarterback it almost sounds like

470
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Speaker 1: they're making excuse. But the coach will say, I told

471
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Speaker 1: him to check out that certain type of coverage and

472
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Speaker 1: force it in there to see if he could make it,

473
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Speaker 1: because I want to be comfortable. Then in a game situation,

474
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Speaker 1: he knows he can or can't make that throw. And

475
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Speaker 1: I write for the Athletic, My article when I send

476
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Speaker 1: it in has to be edited one. I'm just not

477
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Speaker 1: a great writer. And to like, there's a reason editors

478
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Speaker 1: are employed at every major newspaper now these website, it's

479
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: at the Athletic that they're needed. Like your first draft

480
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: is not your final draft. There's a reason practice is

481
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: not the game now. They to me, I put a

482
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Speaker 1: lot less emphasis on any practice situation than a coach would.

483
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Speaker 1: I understand why coaches put emphasis on it. It doesn't

484
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Speaker 1: mean as much to me for any player, because I've

485
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Speaker 1: consistently seen in training camps over the years guys look

486
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: really good and then they played just in preseason games

487
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: and shift the bed. And then I've seen guys that

488
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Speaker 1: have been good in practice, young guys, then good in

489
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: preseason games, then get to the regular season games and

490
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: you gotta cut them by October one. So if it's

491
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Speaker 1: the one sport where like if you just went to

492
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Speaker 1: a pick up basketball game and there were nine NBA

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Speaker 1: players in the game, and if if you showed up

494
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Speaker 1: you were whoever, like a fringe NBA guy, and you

495
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Speaker 1: held your own and it was legitimate players Lebron James,

496
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Speaker 1: James Harden, whoever. You can list any player you want,

497
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Speaker 1: and you could hang like you could probably play in

498
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Speaker 1: the NBA. The NFL is the one sport where like

499
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Speaker 1: you might be able to hang in practice and you

500
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: might have no chance in the game. I don't really

501
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: know how to explain it. Hell, I don't even think

502
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: coaches quite know how to explain it. It's like this,

503
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: it's stuff that's hard to quantify and there's vice. First,

504
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: there's guys that look bad in practice and then be

505
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: pretty good in the games. It's the damnedest thing, but

506
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: it's true. Now, in a perfect world, you want Khalil Max, J. J. Watts,

507
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, guys to kick ass every step of the day,

508
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: every every day of the year, right, Drew Brees, Aaron Donald.

509
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: Most players aren't that. Even Jimmy Garoppolo, which I think

510
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Speaker 1: has a chance to be a top ten quarterback this year,

511
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: he should struggle in practice. He started day career games.

512
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Speaker 1: If he's not throwing picks and practice, you might have

513
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: a problem because I know he's not gonna be perfect

514
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Speaker 1: when Sundays come. He's gonna throw some picks. It's okay

515
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: to throw prow picks. I got just pissing me off

516
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: trying to think of the coach that was saying it.

517
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Speaker 1: It might have been McVeigh, but I feel like I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like it was. It might have been La

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Speaker 1: Flora's Rogers, but I don't think Lafloria is the Jews

520
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: to talk about rogers like that. God is kicking me

521
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: off right now. But it's it's true, man, And I

522
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day. The power of

523
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: the NFL is really unlike anything we've ever seen. Uh,

524
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Speaker 1: just because it's the biggest sport. We don't play that

525
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: many games, so the other stuff has to be that emphasized.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing. Once football starts, we talked about

527
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Speaker 1: the games. Like basketball, the games don't matter during the

528
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: regular season. It's why we talked about all the other

529
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: stupid fluff. Football is the one suport now where we

530
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: all we do once the games start, talking about the games,

531
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Speaker 1: talk about the players, like on the field. This isn't basketball.

532
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Speaker 1: Once the regular season starts. In the NBA, well maybe

533
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: this year it will change a little bit with the

534
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: super teams kind of gone. But for the last several years,

535
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: and part of this is the Warriors, they were kicking

536
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: the ship out of everybody. All we had to talk

537
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: about is like, did Lebron James look at Kyrie Funny?

538
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: Is Kevin Durant in a pissie mood today? It was like, God,

539
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: these stories are so stupid. Well that's a little bit

540
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: what the off season is like with football, a little bit.

541
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still on the field stuff, but it's like, God,

542
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: five interest straight interceptions is a story I don't even

543
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: what's my opinion on it. I don't know. It's practice.

544
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I wrote an article this week for the Athletic If

545
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: I if they just would have posted it, you probably

546
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to get through the first I

547
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: don't know, two paragraphs, right. Whatever you do for a living,

548
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: you guys probably had meetings in this week or last

549
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: week getting ready for Q four. You gotta iron stuff

550
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: out before the quarter comes. You don't just go to

551
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: print or you know called action of whatever you're trying

552
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: to do. It takes time. You work through stuff. That's

553
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: the point of practice for football. Because you worked, you're

554
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 1: allowed to make mistakes in practice. We care about the games.

555
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: We care about the live reps against other teams. So

556
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: again my takeaway is a positive, and it it shows

557
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: really the power of the NFL. Read earlier this week,

558
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago that CBS, which is by

559
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: far the stiffest network, is going to be open to

560
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: showing like game lines on their pregame shows and even

561
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: show it on the ticker, you know, like over unders,

562
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: just lines, And I just laughed out loud, and it

563
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of marijuana in this country for

564
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: years like my parents, the generation I grew up in.

565
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: My parents viewed marijuana no different like crack cocaine that

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00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: they thought it was. It was. It was on the

567
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: same level. Now, in two thousand nineteen, at least where

568
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: I live, it's legal, and in the next several years,

569
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be federally legal and legal in every

570
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: state in America. Now there may be a couple of

571
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Southern states that fight until the bitter end, but it's coming.

572
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: I promise you that I got a family that works

573
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: in the beer business. The beer companies have invested huge

574
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: cash into marijuana. That you're gonna go into seven Eleven's

575
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Safe Way wherever you live, because this is a national show.

576
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't know outside of the West Coast Walmart's Costcos

577
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: wherever and find CBD drinks. Not CBD is a little

578
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: different marijuana. But I'm encompassing it all. I'm in business

579
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: with my other podcast with a marijuana company, and I'm

580
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: promise you there their checks are big and they clear

581
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: and the business and they're huge business. I mean, they

582
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: are going to be like the Amazon of weed in America.

583
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I promise you. Now, my parents, you know, my dad

584
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: was sick and never really solve my mom. You know,

585
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know. She's probably uncomfortable see signs when

586
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 1: I do my periscopes in the background, and I go

587
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: well as someone that I don't really drink that much anymore,

588
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: and I never really smoked marijuana, especially like throughout most

589
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: of my young adult life, and I've kind of transferred,

590
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: or you transitioned, and no hangovers, no nothing. It actually

591
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: inspires my creativity and it's just a huge part of society,

592
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: and it were it's only gonna grow. And I don't

593
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: drink that much and I feel way better. I've lost weight.

594
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's it's debatable that marijuana is

595
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: much healthier for you than alcohol. And I'm not trying

596
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: to get on my high horse here because I really

597
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: don't care what you do. But the point is there's

598
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: been a huge shift with perception with we because people realize, God,

599
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: it's really not that bad. Well, what happened the alcohol

600
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: companies and for a long time, the cigarette companies, who

601
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 1: were as powerful of a big business as we had

602
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: in America destroyed them. Now ultimately they've been destroyed, and

603
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: now weed is coming to power. Well forever one of

604
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: the NFL's biggest advantages in America was gambling. Everyone knew

605
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: about it, everyone talked about it, except the networks. In

606
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: the league. It was frowned upon for announcers to bring

607
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: up gambling. The networks because they were all in bed

608
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: with the NFL and knew they were uncomfortable with it,

609
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: refused to touch it. Yet, one of the reasons the

610
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: NFL for years have been so successful was because it

611
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: was the best sport by a mile to gamble on us. Everyone.

612
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I say this all the time. Everyone thinks gambling is

613
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna change sports. Bullshit. If you ever tried to gamble

614
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: on baseball, it sucks. You ever tried to gamble on

615
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: the NBA and then all of a sudden look up

616
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: and had Kawai's team and he's getting load managed or

617
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: bet on Lebron's team and he just takes the day

618
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: off and he's drinking white on the sideline. That sucks.

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00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: That's not the deal with the NFL because injuries the

620
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: way you know, the injury report works during the week,

621
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: you have somewhat of an idea. So if a guy

622
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: doesn't play on Sunday, it is rarely a shocker because

623
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: we gamble on the sports. It's very fantasy now is intermixed.

624
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: It's all a big part of the puzzle to the

625
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: league's dominance. And they finally have realized. And obviously when

626
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: the Raiders moved to Vegas was a huge tipping point

627
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: for the league. And I think ultimately the A's might

628
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: end up moving there one day to or their their

629
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: baseball team is gonna be there, and they're also gonna

630
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: have an NBA team. The game has changed because I

631
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: think we realized, wait, it's all legal. And I've said

632
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: this the whole time about gambling. Think how arbitrary the laws,

633
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: Think how stupid it is that I can drive to

634
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Arino and from my house it's about three hours from

635
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: where I'm sitting right now, and place a bet, but

636
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Speaker 1: I can't do it where I'm sitting. And I say

637
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: the same thing about prostitution. I can drive to Dennis

638
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Hoff's Bunny Ranch and pay for a prostitute, but I

639
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: can't do it right here. I'm not saying I'm not

640
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: determining whether it's right or wrong. I'm just saying the

641
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: law makes no sense and clear with gambling now it's

642
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: becoming legal, popping up in all different states. I know

643
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: my state will be one of the last because we're

644
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: too dumb and we won't know how to monetize it,

645
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: even though we have, you know, the most people and

646
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: generate the most money for state. But it's just a

647
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: whole another you know, conversation. But it really is crazy

648
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: that everyone's like, oh, yeah, we're gonna talk about gambling now. Uh,

649
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: just about twenty years too late. Pellis what has taken

650
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: you so long? What has taken this country so long?

651
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, this is big business and I'm not trying

652
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: to discriminate here speaking from men now. Obviously I know

653
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: women gamble, but a lot of the women I date

654
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: always tell me not to gamble. It's a big deal

655
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: with men. We like to gamble, most men, and really

656
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, some men don't actually gamble, but part

657
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: of their Like if you're a football coach, you're gambling

658
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: every day because you're just depending on like your players.

659
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: It's all a risk for us on the outside that

660
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: we don't have. You know, even as a fan, we

661
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: like putting little juice down on the game. It's fun,

662
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: it's a blast. It can also be harmful. You gotta

663
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: be careful with your units. I've had some devastating losses,

664
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: also had some big wins, more losses than wins. But

665
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: I'll never dispute that there is no feeling like winning

666
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: a bet, and there's probably no shift your feeling than

667
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: losing a bet, especially if you place a lot of

668
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: money on it. But to think that it has been

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00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: illegal and taboo for these networks to talk about for

670
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: so long, and you realized money talk shit walks because

671
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: they realize how much money is being gambled now and

672
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: that the leagues are embracing it. Every single work now

673
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: is has a gambling show, Fox, CBS, ESPN. Now all

674
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: the networks are talking about it, they're incorporating into their

675
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: broadcast And I just shake my head, what Why did

676
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: it take you this long? Why? Why did it take

677
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: this long for society to realize, you know what, marijuana

678
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: is not that bad. You know it's really not. And

679
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: you know alcohol, As someone that's trying to drink less

680
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: and less, it trusts me, it's it affects me in

681
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: way worse ways, forget things. I feel hungover and terrible.

682
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: The next day, I can smoke weed and wake up

683
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning and go to the gym.

684
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like I shouldn't have to place

685
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: a bet with some company online overseas. I should just

686
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: be able to go down to a sports book in

687
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: Walnut Creek or in San Francisco or wherever I live,

688
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: or the mobile app. Thank god that's coming because and

689
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, I guess better late than never, but it

690
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: really shouldn't have taken this long. Something that's a part

691
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: of our culture, something that's a big reason why the

692
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: sport is being so successful. And whether you gamble or not,

693
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: you've done it before, indirectly and too. I promise you

694
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: if you especially if you can just control how much

695
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: you're gambling on the sport. It's pretty fun. I mean,

696
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: it's just there's no way to argue it. It's pretty fun.

697
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: And by far, like I said, football, there's no sport

698
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: even in the even in its stratosphere, in terms of entertainment,

699
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: in terms of fairness to gamble on, it's it's by

700
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: far the best. So I'm just I guess I'm glad,

701
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: but I'm also a little frustrated that it took this long.

702
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: That is finally here, Okay, let's get into the Middlecoff

703
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handles where

704
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: I answer you guys questions and uh, let's start here

705
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: with that's your name, here's my question. There have been

706
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: a large amount of holdouts and contract talks this season.

707
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: In my opinion, i'd agree which most of them seem

708
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: to be not working out. It also looks to be

709
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: that the plays are getting bad advice from their agents

710
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: as to these contract negotiations. If I were a player,

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00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: I would have cut out my agent a long time

712
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: ago and save myself with money and bad advice, and

713
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: with the league contracts being public, higher a loyal lawyer

714
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: to deal with my paperwork. Do you think there might

715
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: be a time soon where NFL agents are no longer

716
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: using the NFL, where at the most part we start

717
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: to see an increase of players without agents. I think

718
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a lot more players without agents. Uh.

719
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: I still do think they're really good agents, you know,

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00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: d Rosenhouse, Tom Condon, you know, I think Dak you know,

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00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: say what you want about his hold he's not holding out,

722
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: but his contract negotiation. I texted a guy in the

723
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: league and just asked Todd France who's his agent? And

724
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: he said he's really good. So, I mean there are

725
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: really good agents. What Mike McCartney did for Kirk Cousins

726
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago was big time. But I

727
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: do think we're seeing consistent bad advice too. I think

728
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: it's all on the player. Like I'll give Dad credit.

729
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Deck showed up and you're negotiating good faith, even though

730
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: it kind of gets within bad faith as it gets public.

731
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: But like who Zeke, what are you doing? Melvin Gordon,

732
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Clowney? I kind of blame Bill

733
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: O'Brien for that one. But yeah, I think we've always

734
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: seen players one thing, player holdouts. Seeing this on Twitter like,

735
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: oh the influence of the NBA. Yeah, I mean there's

736
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: been holdouts. What your Evan Smith hold out of the Cowboys?

737
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: Like this has been going on. I was nine years old,

738
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: it's been going on for a while. There's always gonna

739
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: be bad advice. It's just like any walk of life, right,

740
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: if you meet ten people in business, how many of

741
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: them truly know what they're doing? Three or four? It's

742
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: just it's just a numbers game in life. There's a

743
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: small percentage of people that are really good and people

744
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: that know what they're doing. People that handle them correctly.

745
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: You know, you can use the media to your to

746
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: your advantage. Remember Russell Wilson, his agent did that. But

747
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: they didn't hold out, They didn't miss any time. They

748
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: just got the job done. DA's just getting the job

749
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: saying with them already, they showed up. They're handling it correctly.

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00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: I think you gotta look at every individual holdout in

751
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: its own vacuum, you know, individually, and then kind of

752
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: judge it by there. And I think you're always gonna

753
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: see players get poor advice and you're always gonna see

754
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: players make their like Khalil Mack last year did the

755
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: right thing. Mark Davis didn't have the cash to pay them.

756
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: They were never gonna pay them. He had to eventually

757
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: force his way out or get his money, and he

758
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: did a big fan when I can love your opinions

759
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: of the NFL. In the end, who do you think

760
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: has the best career when Stack or Goth It's a

761
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: good question. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to preface this

762
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: by saying, I think Wentz is the most physically gifted.

763
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: I think God has been the best out of the three,

764
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: just top to bottom, just you know, once factory him

765
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: once McVeigh got there. I think Dak has had some

766
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: pretty special moments. If I would is gonna bet on

767
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: one of the three, you know, the risky bet would

768
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: be Wentz. Again, most talented has a super Bowl winning coach.

769
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I I get, I get kind of scared with injured guys.

770
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: Now I believe in Wentz. I'm a fan of Wentz.

771
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: But if I if I was gonna take the conservative

772
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: angle here, I take Golf. He also has an elite coach.

773
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: His skills can just translate for a long period of time. Dak,

774
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: to me, is much more dependent on his teammates than

775
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: these other two people. Like, well, Golf's team. Yeah, I

776
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: mean golf is throwing to Robert Woods. He made Robert

777
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: Woods and ad plus catch guy that's not Odell Beckham.

778
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: You know it's before and I like, trust me, I

779
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: called Robert Woods Reggie Wayne when I did him coming

780
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: out of college. I thought that's who he could become.

781
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: And I hope he continues to become that guy. But

782
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: I would probably take off. Though. I'm not saying that

783
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: GoF is the more talented player, because the most talented

784
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: player of that group is clear. It's when it's by

785
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: a mile. How he did the right thing by extending him.

786
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: There's just a risk. I just say it's like, well,

787
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, People like, how do you think this season

788
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be? I'm like, let's see him play five

789
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: games in a row. Now, I've seen Wentz play five

790
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: games in a row. I've seen him see him play

791
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: sixteen straight, which he hasn't done right since his almost

792
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: a freshman year rookie year. Hey John ed from Australia?

793
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: What up? Mate? That's I don't know. I very good

794
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: astrolling accent. Question regarding Dac would Jerry step away and

795
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: let Dak go to the market if they can't get

796
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: a deal done? Would any other team pay him close

797
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: to forty million? I feel like the Cowboys hold all

798
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: the leverage. Awesome quarterback draft coming up next year. Thirty

799
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: feels like Dax, you know, getting thirty thirty feels like

800
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: the best as getting. Agree. Jerry's old, but does have time.

801
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how much time. I would love to

802
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: hear your comments about it. I think I said in

803
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: the last podcast. I've been saying on Twitter NonStop, who

804
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: is paying Dak Prescott thirty million dollars? This offseason thirty

805
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: million dollars, let alone forty which and o'conllin talked about

806
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: it this year's negotiations. The way the world works, you

807
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: throw in high numbers. I overreacted, but I get where

808
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: he's saying. He's right. I mean, it doesn't mean anything.

809
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Who's if they end up paying him thirty two million

810
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: dollars a year? My question is this them? This simple?

811
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Let him hit the open market and try to get

812
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars. Who's paying him twenty five? I

813
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: don't that they don't exist, the Bengals. You're telling me

814
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna pay him eighty million dollars guarantee.

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00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see who Jerry's negotiating against.

816
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: To me, Zeke has some leverage because he goes, hey, Jerry,

817
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: you can pay Dack all that money. You know you

818
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: need me to help him. To me, and I've been

819
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: hard on Zeke. I don't think you get to hold

820
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: out when you've been a slappy, when you consistently go

821
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: to Roger Goodell's office, and your owner, which is also

822
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: the GM, the guy that cuts the checks, has had

823
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: your back. I don't think you treat him like that

824
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: because he wants to pay you, but you have shown

825
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: him that you're not trust worthy. But I've never disputed

826
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: Zeke's the best player on the team. He's the best

827
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: player on the team. He's Zeke's super Zeke has Hall

828
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: of Fame talent, but he's a slappy and that's the

829
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: reason he hasn't been paid. He might not be a slappy,

830
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: he just has slappy tendencies and he's poor decision maker

831
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: off the field because he's just a stupid ship right

832
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: where Dak doesn't. And I think Dak that's what Jack saying.

833
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm the perfect guy, great character. Teammates love me. I

834
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: have one. Even though you can argue winning is not

835
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback stat, even though it kind of is, but

836
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: with this team, it's kind of not because the team

837
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: has been so good. Yeah, I think it's just seeing

838
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: it's a complicated situation. Zeke's the best player of the group,

839
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: but he's the easiest to replace because he plays running back.

840
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: But the problem for the Cowboys is that it's not

841
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: like they found him in the third round. They did

842
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: draft him fourth overall, so puts them in somewhat of

843
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: a bind. At what point do we start saying Andrew

844
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: Luck is becoming or is injury prone? Man, I think

845
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: we say it right now. And I don't blame Andrew

846
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: because he was a horse coming out of college. Ryan

847
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: Griggson almost ruined his career. I blame Ryan Griggson for

848
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's injury problems, like he created this monster that

849
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: put Andrew Luck always getting hurt. Now, I'm not blaming

850
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: him necessarily for this injury, but as we saw this

851
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: week with Boogie Cousins fall the NBA towards a c

852
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: L when he's torn as achilles, he ruptured his qualdity

853
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: tars a c L. Like, once one injury happens, you're

854
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: more inclined to get other injuries because your body starts overcompensating.

855
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: Andrew was also I mean he's six ft five two

856
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: five pounds, He's a massive man. I'm nervous and I

857
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: think Mortenson or Schefter tweeted. I think they talked about

858
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: it before the game the night that there's there's growing optimism,

859
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: but it's not ideal. I saw a quote from Frank

860
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Writch like we're gonna have to know by the third

861
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: preseason game because we start game planning after that for

862
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: the for the week one. Now, they've been game planning

863
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: all off season, but they'd have to tinker it if

864
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: it's Jacoby Brissette and not Andrew Luck. Now, I do

865
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: think their team is good enough to win without Andrew Luck.

866
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's crushed it. They got players at every position,

867
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: and I just think Jacoby percent might just be a

868
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: good player. But Andrew Luck's the top five or six

869
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, so if he is injury prone,

870
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: it's a massive, massive problem. I love the pod. I'm

871
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: sure I may get laughed off stage, but I can't help.

872
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: But wonder with all the Dallas cap issues is if

873
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones will spend any amount of money to win

874
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl but they have issues with the cap,

875
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: why not pay Doc or any of the guys like

876
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: ten million bucks to cut his grass once? I mean,

877
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: can they not have two jobs? Maybe A maris great

878
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: at juggling and he wants to pay him five million

879
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: bucks to do a show at his grandson's B day party.

880
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: L O L. Seriously, is there something I'm missing or

881
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: some rules and the by laws? So he's basically saying

882
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: set up? How about them? Cowboys LLC and pay these

883
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: guys on the side. I agree. I would, as I

884
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: theorized a couple of weeks ago, with Tom Brady Robert

885
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: Kraft paying him on the side, I would cheat. I

886
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: would have no problem cheating, and if they caught me,

887
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: so be it. But with these guys, I would try

888
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: to work something on the side and pay them cash

889
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: on the side. Now, the Brady Robert Kraft relationship is unique.

890
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: They've known each other for a long period of time.

891
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: When you pay someone on the side, you have to

892
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: trust them, you know, unequivocally, because if word did get out,

893
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: they dock your first rounders. Like Jerry jonal is not

894
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: worried about fines, but you start taking away first rounders,

895
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. And they would if Jerry got

896
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: caught paying them on the side cash like they were,

897
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: legitimately might take away like five first rounders. So it

898
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: would be I don't know the exact rule, but it'd

899
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: be devastating. They would throw the hammer at them. But

900
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: if I'm Jerry Jonals seventy six, I mean I I

901
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: got news for it. How do you think business works?

902
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: Brown bags? You know you read about these Nike stories

903
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: about how they get all these players. They pay them cash.

904
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: Every business. I met with someone today, hopefully a future

905
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: sponsor of my other podcast, local business in the Bay Area. Like,

906
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's just business. A shady man. Business is

907
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: a shady world. So I wouldn't blame Jerry Jones for

908
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: kind of cheating. I'm twenty four years old from southern California,

909
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: working in finance, and I love sports, mostly football. I

910
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: recently came to the realization that I want to work

911
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: in sports industry, most likely on the media side. At

912
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: this point, I don't know where to start, so I

913
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: was wondering if you had any insight, you'd be willing

914
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: to share. Well, if you have a good job, I'd

915
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: recommend keeping it just so you can keep making money

916
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: and just do stuff on the side. The great part

917
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: is with Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, you just you name it,

918
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: the Internet. There's never been a better time than just

919
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: kind of do a side hustle media personality. Just start

920
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: a podcast, start doing Instagram videos. I I do Instagram

921
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: videos every day. Follow me on Instagram. I just I

922
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: try to do a video or two every day on

923
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: a topic I don't There's not like a blueprint it's

924
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: gonna work or not. I just think people like it

925
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: trying it out. You just I mess with stuff every

926
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: day every day. So the great thing is like I

927
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: have to. This is how I make my money. But

928
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: if you have another job, it doesn't take that much

929
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: time to do some posts or a YouTube video do

930
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: it at night. So I think it's one of those

931
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: jobs that you can do. You can have a side

932
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: hustle and then maybe your side hustle maybe gain steam.

933
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: Maybe you learned you like it, maybe you learn you

934
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: don't like it. Because I'll tell you like, putting these

935
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: shows together is a little harder than you think. Uh.

936
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: If I wouldn't have worked in radio for a long time,

937
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been possible. I wouldn't have known how

938
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: to do it. And even just since I've been doing

939
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: and I feel the show is a lot better than

940
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: it was a year ago. But I had an idea

941
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: of how to put a show together, what topics to hit,

942
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of how to run it because I had experience

943
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: doing it. But it took time. You know, I'm Malcolm Gladwell.

944
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: I've been listening to radio my entire life. I love

945
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: the media, So I think the transition for me was

946
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: pretty easy because I've I really was a media guy

947
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: before I ever went into football. I wrote from my

948
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: my college newspaper. I had a weekly column, and that

949
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: was before Twitter even existed. I would have died. I

950
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: would have loved Twitter. If I was in college, I

951
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: would have been all over it. Oh it would have

952
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: been Twitter was was my jam. Would have been my jam.

953
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: But you have that at your disposal when you're young,

954
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: to mess with it. Question for you, which Florida team

955
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: would you most like to be a fan of? Dolphins,

956
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: Tampa or Jacksonville. Rank them in order and list this

957
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: and list why starting this season outlook for each team.

958
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: It's a hell of a question. Well, right now, I

959
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: would take Tampa because I love Bruce Arians. Jacksonville flips

960
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: my guy, and Dolphins, I don't really care. It depends

961
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: if I was older. I mean, the Dolphins have history,

962
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: they have one of the best quarterbacks ever played for him,

963
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: they have the only undefeated team. Tampa did win a

964
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and have some Hall of Fame level players,

965
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: So you have to put Jacksonville last. Uh. I've been

966
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: to both Tampa and Miami. As a out I would

967
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: probably lean I mean, obviously Miami is better Fort Lauderdale.

968
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: I'd probably lean Miami first, then Tampa as a close second. Now,

969
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: big picture, you know I'm rooting for Foals, rooting for Flip.

970
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a tough one. That's that's not

971
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: exactly like rank the Lakers, Warriors, you know, and Mavericks.

972
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: You know, this is tough. I don't know. I would, honestly,

973
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, full disclosure, wouldn't want to be a fan

974
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: of any of the three, just just being completely honest.

975
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: What are concerns about Jimmy g throwing so many picks

976
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: in practice? I know the preseason, but damn doesn't pass

977
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: the eye test. Yeah, I wasn't at practice, talked about

978
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: it earlier today. I don't really make much of it. Now.

979
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: If he throws multiple picks Week one and they lose

980
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay, then uh, then it's time to sound

981
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: the alarm, you know, sound that freaking alarm. But as

982
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: we sit here on August, some picks and practice, I

983
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: don't really care. I'm from Atlanta and have seen how

984
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: good Shanahan and his as an offensive coordinator. But when

985
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: I look at their roster, I see a below average

986
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: NFL caliber playmakers. Pettis was a solid return man in college,

987
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: but struck me as a remedial as a receiver. Agreed,

988
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: I feel I've seen Deebo Samuel before and Farrell Cooper.

989
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: I think Debo is better. Who can't even get on

990
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: the field for the Rams. The national media seems to

991
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: be proclaiming this team as the favorites to have a

992
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: great year. I just don't see it. Could you give

993
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: some perspective on what scouts inpundence maybe seeing that I

994
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: don't well. I was just texting with a buddy on this.

995
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: The hype on Kyle Shanahan is really big, and I've

996
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: been a part of that, but it ends this year.

997
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: Like for me with Kyle, it's time to win. You

998
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: don't get any more excuses. I don't care. If Bosa

999
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: goes down, that's your fault. You picked them. I don't care.

1000
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: If d Ford goes down, that's your fault. You traded

1001
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: for him. I don't care. If Jimmy Garoppolo goes down,

1002
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: that's your fault. You guys extended him and he always

1003
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: gets hurt. Like if the excuses are gone, if you're

1004
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: a good coach in the NFL you win, Like, to me,

1005
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: this year, Kyle Shanahan has to make a wild card.

1006
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, I'm out on him as a head coach.

1007
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: It turns out like you were saying, he's may just

1008
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: be a really good offensive coordinator because right now he's

1009
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: the head coach. He's he's not quote unquote the GM,

1010
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: but he's in charge. He picks all the players like

1011
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: it's it's time to it's time to get it done.

1012
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't get it done, he's just another

1013
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: really good o C that can't be a head coach.

1014
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: It's just that simple, like there are no excuses anymore.

1015
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: And being a practice I'm like, God, maybe they're not

1016
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: as good as I think. I'm just done on even

1017
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: guessing with them. I just want the season to start

1018
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: and then I'll judge them with games because you watch

1019
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: them in preseason games. They're sloppy that at eighteen penalties.

1020
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's enough of a hard ass.

1021
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do think he's a really

1022
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: genius offensive mind. But at the end of the day,

1023
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: like Andy Reid Sean Payton bring more to the table.

1024
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: They can lead the group. You know that they have

1025
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: a high standard for everyone. Penalties aren't allowed. So it's

1026
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: like this is a big year for Kyle. There, I

1027
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: just got just got done with a texting montage with someone.

1028
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't care, no excuses. I don't give a ship.

1029
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: Who's on ir Everyone's blowing you in the media, including myself.

1030
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: But if you go seven and nine, that ends. And

1031
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: I think that the fans around the Bay Area like that.

1032
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: No one cares anymore. Just just get it done, because

1033
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL, usually a good coach in their

1034
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 1: first two years get it done. Like they just find

1035
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: a way, even if the roster is not good enough.

1036
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, the roster has some flaws though I

1037
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: think Debo is good and I like Jalen Hurd, not

1038
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: the biggest pettish guy, but in in theory, Pettis should

1039
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: be like their third or fourth receiver. Now Kyle did

1040
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: trade up to get him, that's on the personnel. And

1041
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: again he's have you read some of the articles. I

1042
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: don't know if he's always listening to the scouts. So

1043
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: like Kyle, like Bill O'Brien, stay away from the players,

1044
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: let the scouts pick the players for you. Just coach

1045
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: the team and This is a This is a huge

1046
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: year for Kyle because he's gotten a he's gotten a

1047
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: two year honeymoon period around here. Well, the honeymoon's over

1048
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: and it's time to win. And that includes myself. I've

1049
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: given him a honeymoon period because I think highly of

1050
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: because I watched him called plays. I think he's a genius.

1051
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: He's an excellent play caller. But there's more to being

1052
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: a head coach than being a play caller. There, there

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Speaker 1: really is. And he's drafted in the top ten two

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Speaker 1: years in a row. Now, you can give me all

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Speaker 1: excuse you want, and they're valid, but I'm done with excuses.

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Speaker 1: Just don't tell me how rocky the cr Just just

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Speaker 1: get the ship into the to the land to just

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Speaker 1: dock the boat. I just and that's I think speaking

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Speaker 1: for the entire barrier. Just get it done, you know,

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Speaker 1: just get it done. I'll end on that, have a

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Speaker 1: good weekend, enjoy some football, and uh we'll talk next week.

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Speaker 1: And by next week we're only two two and a

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Speaker 1: half weeks away from real NFL football. Audio Scott speed

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Speaker 1: Peace