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Speaker 1: The volume. Another day, another KD trade watch. The Sons

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Speaker 1: reportedly aren't committing the trading KD to one of his

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Speaker 1: preferred landing spots Miami, Houston, San Antonio all no state

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Speaker 1: income tax. You're here, p Bel, I'm gonna come to

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Speaker 1: you first, Joe, let him ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Has KD earned the right to choose his landing spot?

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Speaker 1: Man? Yes, Yes, that man is an all time great.

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Speaker 1: He's done nothing but play hard. Now, everybody you know

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Speaker 1: chastising about his leadership, But dude love a who. Man,

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Speaker 1: he loved a game. So you know what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get from him, pe Bell, if you know what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get from man. He gonna be efficient from the floor.

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Speaker 1: He gonna be the easy money sniper. The game comes

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Speaker 1: to him. Now help him out. You know it ain't

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Speaker 1: like it ain't like the place he asked, and they

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Speaker 1: ain't got talent that you can get some guys back

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Speaker 1: and return to where you can still be competitive. You'll

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Speaker 1: be better than what you were last year here. You

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Speaker 1: ain't make the player in last year. You trade him

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Speaker 1: to San Antonio or Houston. I feel like you can Houston.

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Speaker 1: You can get some good comparable pieces to where you

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Speaker 1: still be in contention.

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Speaker 2: You can you can at least make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: There's all long standards. This we've seen. We've seeing KD.

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Speaker 3: We've seen KD at all for I mean since I've

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Speaker 3: been in the NBA, I don't know, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen

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Speaker 3: years whatever. Right, we've seen him and in places where

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Speaker 3: when he's happy, right, and I mean happy like it's

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Speaker 3: a great team, it's not a surface running around it.

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Speaker 3: He plays eve leek basketball right. When he goes to

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Speaker 3: places where it's you know and the brook the net

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Speaker 3: scenario and you know this and that I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: it wasn't the elite ball. I'm just saying like it

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Speaker 3: was just a little harder. His teams were not as good,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Like, so I think you get Katie, you get him

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Speaker 2: Those Sames seats.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he went to University of Texas, no state taxes,

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Speaker 1: So people love that people. Yeah, and somewhere and somewhere

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Speaker 2: When you can get him. I remember my used to

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Speaker 2: house now yeah, I remember the house now. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So like when you get when you as a as

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Speaker 3: an athlete, we all know when you get to somewhere

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Speaker 3: as a fresh start.

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Speaker 2: You got a lot of young talent.

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Speaker 1: You gotta you know, you're not beefing with a coach

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Speaker 1: like we don't know the dynamic with him in a

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Speaker 1: that you believe in your game goes to a nothing

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Speaker 3: So I just think that's kind of the situation that

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Speaker 3: he was in. It sounds like some things. But you know,

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Speaker 3: prom I wouldn't say promised to him, but you know,

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Speaker 3: as far as how.

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Speaker 2: They you don't want to win. And then you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Get the coach who bootingholder, who's not not for everybody, right,

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Speaker 1: he's not for everybody.

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Speaker 3: He does things this particular way, and it works. He's

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Speaker 3: won a championship. It works, right, So you can't blame him.

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Speaker 3: But we see that you know that fit. It just

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Speaker 3: didn't work. It just didn't work for Pebbe. If you

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Speaker 3: said something very interesting, you say, when there's not a circus.

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Speaker 3: KD played his best basketball once he left OKC at

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Speaker 3: Golden State because all he got to do was hoop Elsie.

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Speaker 3: You go to Brooklyn, they're counting on you, they want

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Speaker 2: You go to Phoenix. Now you and Devin Booker should

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Speaker 1: See, you got Clay, you got stepped, you got dramond

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Speaker 1: I get to be a back really truly, I can

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Speaker 2: I kind of like doing background vocals.

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Speaker 1: Right. So I don't know because now at this point,

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Speaker 1: We're bringing you here to get us over the thump.

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Speaker 1: That's that's why they're gonna get him. So the expectation

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Speaker 1: Now it's being reported Mark Spears says Kevin Durant was

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Speaker 1: Spears says he wanted to go to the Knicks now

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Speaker 1: when he had we was a free agent. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: got stuffed. They guy Clay, They got Draymond that won

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Speaker 1: seventy three games the year before. They just lost the

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Speaker 3: I don't think Phoenix was a good team, if we're

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Speaker 3: being totally honest, right, I don't think they were a

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Speaker 2: And you be like, they didn't need Bradley Bee chapmanship. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think there was anyone's thought.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think anyone thought that once uh Phoenix got Katie,

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Speaker 2: That's what they should have kept. Said. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: And you obviously you add a player like Bradley Beal,

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Speaker 3: three points a game, maybe five points one game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But you played them out a position. I understand Devin

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying you keep him. You didn't need badly Bill.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get enough scoring from Kevin Durant and

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Speaker 1: because in the process of getting Bradley, Bill, you give

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Speaker 2: The reason these two.

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Speaker 1: OKC what depth, bitch. Yeah, that's how the beat all

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Speaker 3: I honestly think if they, I honestly think I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: they got rid of DeAndre a.

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Speaker 1: We got rid of wo DeAndre Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: Hey, but now you see, you don't got money or

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Speaker 3: you don't got there.

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Speaker 2: You know, coaches, coaches are revolving.

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Speaker 1: Well, you ain't got you ain't got a Bogel, you

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Speaker 1: ain't got blutan Holzer, you ain't got money, You on

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Speaker 1: your you on your fourth coaching for years. Hey, hard

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Speaker 1: consistency in continuity when you doing it like that, people,

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Speaker 1: because that's a whole new sister. He might coach another way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they looking for a five man. Now think about that,

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Speaker 2: Bro they not.

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Speaker 1: Look, you give up c P who is a hell

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Speaker 1: of an orchestrator, and you know he would have made

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Speaker 1: sure Devin Booker and Kevin Durant got their points.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I agree with y'all.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Bradley Bell was a great fit because

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Speaker 1: and it just didn't add up to wins.

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Speaker 2: And that's easy to guard. That's easy to guard.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, he goes shoot, he goes shoot seventh sing,

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Speaker 2: Al Right, cool, got it, Stop one of them, easy

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Speaker 2: game one.

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Speaker 1: Some in the Son's organization believe Bradley Bill will produced

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Speaker 1: when KD is gone for Jake Fisher. There's a like

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Speaker 1: there is a likewise some hope within the Suns that

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Speaker 1: moving Kevin Durant could possibly present Bradley Bell with a

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Speaker 1: Steinline have previously reporter various candidates considering during the Sun's

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Speaker 2: He remained a son. Hey, he gonna have to.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's gonna have to step up if they get

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Speaker 2: But I trust that coach. I had that coach.

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Speaker 3: I had that coach before they got a really good coach,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Odd coach.

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Speaker 2: He was an elite coach, and I mean elite.

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Speaker 3: He's uh his IQ on a on a on a Offensively,

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Speaker 3: it's so simple but so like at fast and what

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Speaker 2: He's one of the few coaches that can do both.

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Speaker 1: I had him as a coach, like we talked, like

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Speaker 1: I got a text message right now from him, you know,

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Speaker 1: Happy Fathers Father's Day.

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Speaker 3: So like coach out. He's a phenomenal coach. Don't sleep

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Speaker 2: But hey, look, I don't know what kind of system

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Speaker 1: But uh, they need they need Bradley Bell to be

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if.

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Speaker 1: He can average that, but he a look, they gonna

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Speaker 1: need him to be one of them top guns on

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Speaker 1: a consistent basis. But he and Bradley he had been

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker really the same person. I agree, they're the

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Speaker 1: You had DeAndre Ayton, you have McKay up Bridges, you

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Speaker 2: I blame the ring culture. I'mbelievable. No, it's the money, right,

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Speaker 3: And then it's guys like you're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 1: They didn't have the department like they got up bail

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Speaker 2: All right? Cool? We could do this.

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Speaker 3: You see you see a guy player on one team

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Speaker 1: Hey, Then when you look at Durant man, he's such

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Speaker 1: And it is Houston. I think he's Kevin Durant. The

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Speaker 2: Ain'tybody that trade for Kevin Red right now?

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Speaker 1: P BAF and Joe you know this. They expect championship

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Speaker 1: because the won, that's closing the fair of whatever ass

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant I think, I think, I think he can

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Speaker 2: There's only one a couple of teams that he could.

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Speaker 3: Have went to, and and and and they underachieved, right,

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Speaker 3: and one of them is Phoenix. Right, new situation, new coach,

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Speaker 3: to go. And we're talking about contenders, right he can

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll say the team is a cheat. Coach. He

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Speaker 1: Are you? Look? I think Jalen Green would be one.

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Speaker 1: That's not giving up. I'm not giving up. And Thompson,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, he's anna touch, He's gonna touch.

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Speaker 3: But I think you give up those guys he named,

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Speaker 2: You go? I mean, I do you like? I like?

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Speaker 1: Pat Bell, they got some. They got some some seven

438
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Speaker 1: year old picks in there too. They got picks all

439
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Speaker 1: the way out of twenty forty.

440
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Speaker 2: So for Shure, that's what.

441
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Speaker 3: That's one thing we do know these teams have. They

442
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 3: have a lot of money, and they got a lot

443
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: of picks. So I tell you that we know that. Well,

444
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 3: Pat Bell, we're gonna get you out of here. Make

445
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Speaker 3: sure you guys go fow.

446
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Speaker 2: No, no, wait wait wait on u uh.

447
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: And you know you speaking about one on one. You

448
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: know me and Joe played well, you know me and

449
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: Joe went. You know, he went to Arkansas. I don't

450
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: think you know that, John tells Bell. I don't think

451
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: you really mean the I don't mean to keep y'all

452
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,479
Speaker 1: stugg going on. Now tell you the story.

453
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Speaker 2: Okay, So so you know I went to the University

454
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: of Arkansas.

455
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: Like you say, alumni where Joe Johns, right, and then

456
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: and then during the time I was there, you gotta

457
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: think I'm probably like you know, I'm freshman of the Year.

458
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,239
Speaker 2: You know, I'm new coming of the year.

459
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: So all the accolades and I'm getting I'm really just

460
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 3: Joe Johnson got him before, Right, I'm the only kid

461
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 3: on the team that has like any type of NBA

462
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,239
Speaker 3: start them.

463
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: So what Joe Johnson do? He come get me up.

464
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: He takes me out of his lead. He takes care

465
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 1: of me while I'm at Arkansas. He gives me place,

466
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: a little rock to stay, He gives me I'm talking

467
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: about any time he got.

468
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: A free time. He come up to the school. That's

469
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: a two hour drive.

470
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: I get into the NBA. We play Atlanta. I go

471
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: right to his house all the time, like his family

472
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: is my family. Like you gotta think Joe was really

473
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Speaker 1: like big broke Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

474
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Speaker 2: The first dude who ever put me on listen, oh hey,

475
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: oh I was in the league. He was in college.

476
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: He come over to the house and be oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

477
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get to the lead boy and

478
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: give him send me one of the big roads. Give

479
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: me one of them, have one right there. Hey, Hey,

480
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: he was geeked up the whole time.

481
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Speaker 1: Look, we had we had a summer league back of

482
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: the crib and Little Rock and uh man, I had

483
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: him come down there and play with us. Man, come

484
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: up there, turn turn out the whole gym. Y'all know

485
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: how he is all them anthings, picking up full court,

486
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: talking stuff the whole guess.

487
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is what I need. They little people

488
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Speaker 2: right there.

489
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, though was like he wants he don't want

490
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: to know, like, man, you got kids.

491
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I got kids. He's like, okay, you

492
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: gotta feed your kids. So he really the one that

493
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: likes it.

494
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm with Lebron and Miami got dinner

495
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: and Lebron like everybody knows you you're about to go,

496
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Speaker 1: you about to go with you? Yeah, you damn right.

497
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Uncle I mad in his room just

498
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: looking around like ye'ah I need that. Hey. But you

499
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: know what, guys, that's the that's the greatest motivator to

500
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: see it because like my brother with and I go

501
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: there's a three cars, see three cockoags and you hit

502
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: there's a Ferrari, there's a Pores, there's a big body

503
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: Mercedes and you know Central heating it. Yeah, to see that,

504
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: I see I know somebody that actually got that.

505
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: Oh I got I gotta get that. Yeah, I need that.

506
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm at his maama house. I'm staying at his mama house.

507
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: Its mama got pool.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get So to shout out to Joe Johnson.

509
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Speaker 2: J Joe Johnson, appreciate fan, bro I appreciate that.

510
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: Path got y'all make sure y'all go fellows the Pat

511
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: Bell Podcast on social media and on YouTube at the

512
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: Pat Bell Podcast with Rome. It's on a barstool, uh

513
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Speaker 1: social media where you on our g pat pat Bell

514
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Speaker 1: twenty one, you know, gonna meet Pat Bell pod.

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Speaker 2: Wrong.

516
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Speaker 1: I see you at Dave on the on the yeah

517
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Speaker 1: point no yeah, yeah yeah yeah episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Good dude. He's real smart, very smart. He real

519
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: very very very bad ball. Thank you man.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you coming on tonight. We know you know, hey,

521
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: we really really appreciate you coming on, providing your expertise,

522
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: breaking down this game and talking about a lot of

523
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: other topics. Hey, you get a free time, fan, come

524
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: on back. You welcome anytime, Always give you grow. Good

525
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: to see y'all all. Thanks l Jacon.

526
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: Joe.

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Speaker 1: There's still a possibility that Jason Kidd could join the

528
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: next per in Bagley. The door is not completely closed

529
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Speaker 1: on the Knicks and Jason Kidd. Per people familiar with

530
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: the dynamic in Dallas. Other outlists reported as recently is

531
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: last week that kid was still a possibility and remains

532
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: the case as a Monday, teams were hanging up on

533
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: the Knicks during their head coach search per SA Shams.

534
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Teams would just hang up, some would say no then

535
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: hang up. In other situation, the prophetic was involved, you know, literally,

536
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Speaker 1: if no responses.

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Speaker 2: Hey love j Ki, Gonna keep the dove and now

538
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: what is it? Hold on? What is it? The Knicks

539
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: could offer the Mavericks to what get Jake Kidd?

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all will give up og, y'all gonna give up

541
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: Michale Bridges, y'all gonna give up Mitchell Robinson. I need

542
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: something they gonna have to give up. I don't know, Uh,

543
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what they I don't know what they

544
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: can give up. You know, I know uh Dallas got

545
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: that that number one pick and from my understanding, they

546
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Speaker 1: hold on to that, yes, you know what I mean.

547
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: So I don't even know.

548
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: If it's really a job that that Jay Kidd really

549
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: wants to be honest with you, I think he's better

550
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: in the West with Anthony Davis and Couober Flag and

551
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: and and uh, Kyrie.

552
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying you.

553
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: I know, you know it's gonna take probably Kyrie a

554
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: little while to come back, but I think you got

555
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: enough pieces over there to keep you afloat until back,

556
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: you know, to somewhat of one hundred percent, you know

557
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Speaker 1: what I mean.

558
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: So I can't see I honestly, I can't see him.

559
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Speaker 1: I can't see him taking that nixt job unless they

560
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Speaker 1: offer him something that's kind of hard to turn down. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna put him up there with what

562
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, uh spolstru Or or Steve Kurr seventeen million,

563
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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen million a year.

564
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Speaker 2: Shit, But you're in New York compared to me, That's

565
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

566
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Speaker 1: You ay, that money that you getting in Texas with

567
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: no state income tax man New York cost youre.

568
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Speaker 2: Like ten percent. And that's what I'm saying. So I

569
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: don't don't. I don't see him. I don't see him,

570
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Speaker 2: you know, taking this job.

571
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Speaker 1: And like I said, unless it's something that's kind of

572
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: hard for him to turn down, I think he's kind of,

573
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, developed a nice little thing there in Dallas,

574
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure he wants to try to get to

575
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Speaker 1: get the massage back to the championship winning ways, you

576
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, what.

577
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Speaker 2: He's got, they really got a chance.

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Speaker 1: Before we go to any other topics, we got to

579
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Speaker 1: talk to mter thirty Burger. So Joe dropped thirty points

580
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Speaker 1: for the Detroit Amps fifty casually pulled down ten boards. Everybody,

581
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Speaker 1: look at it. Hold on, we're going to put it

582
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Speaker 1: back up. Oh Joe, hit it with it there, I

583
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: ain't it that big body gotay get to your spots. Man.

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Speaker 2: Hey look Bay, oh, all levels are middies posts three ball,

585
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: four point. But what whatever you want? Baby?

586
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: Damn Joe, you're about to be a seventh or eight

587
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: man in the NBA right now. Huh man, I man, listen,

588
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: y'all think I'll be talking. Y'all think I'll just be talking. Man,

589
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: I can get somebody about fifteen or fifteen minutes. Fifteen

590
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: twenty minutes off the bench. Boy, just give me fifteen

591
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: twenty Joe. Ten, I'll give you in one from ten

592
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: to fifteen. Yeah, I be fishing. I'm gonna make plays.

593
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the right way.

594
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

595
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you something now, This this once

596
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: a week thing, and this, this is my type of

597
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: this is my speed though.

598
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to fish.

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00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: That's easy to these heights, Joe. Hey, I ain't finna

600
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: say a lot to hear me. This once a week thing. Hey,

601
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: I can do this in my sleep. Thank you Detroit

602
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: A social media team for providing us with these colde

603
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: ISO Joe highlights. Make sure y'all go follow the ams

604
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: on I g at Detroit Amps and you get an

605
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to see ISO Joe.

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00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Who y'all play this week? Joe?

607
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: We got the three oh five, We got Beesley and

608
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: Lance Stevenson and Mario who that could be a barn burner.

609
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be so smoke And you see them boys game.

610
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: You see that, hey man Lance getting to it with

611
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: the with d White. I thought the White was going

612
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: up it.

613
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: Just last night.

614
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: They tried to talk the White out of his game.

615
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: Made it because Beesley stayed talking because he he I

616
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: think DWIGHTE is so polarizing, and you know, you look

617
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: at him in statue, you know, he's so big and strong,

618
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: and to my understanding that uh they say he was

619
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: talking a lot of junk and uh in Las Vegas

620
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: at the combine, you know, talking about how he was

621
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Speaker 1: gonna come in and you know, destroy the league and

622
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Speaker 1: kill this and the third So I guess some dude

623
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: took offense to it because they show ain't let them

624
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Speaker 1: off the hook. Boy, Hey that was w w E

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00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: right there. We I'm like, oh my goodness.

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00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

627
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything was borderline in that game. That game was

628
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: so long, but everything it was borderline. But the competitive

629
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: edge it was there. You know, I thought, uh, they

630
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: competed at a real high level. And you could tell, man,

631
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: it was just such a buzz throughout the whole aren

632
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: of just the entire game.

633
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: Like, man, it was it was, it was. It was

634
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: a good game to watch.

635
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Speaker 1: I just I don't really care for all the antics

636
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: and all of the fighting and getting in there because

637
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: the league game for that bro, like we were on

638
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: national TV and we we wanted to be you know,

639
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: a great game, a great competitive game, not necessarily guys

640
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: wrestling and throwing punches. And I'm cool with the trash

641
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: talking and all that, but when when things get borderline

642
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: and were throwing punches and we all on the floor

643
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: and then come on, now, do you think do you

644
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: think some of the antics went over over the line?

645
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think.

646
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think due to you know, uh, I

647
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: think both teams kind of lost their emotions, you know,

648
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: throughout the game, meaning every time a guy scored, You're

649
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: seeing guys in each other face.

650
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Shit, they were down their head button, you know what

651
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: I mean.

652
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, but what it's just two teams

653
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: that was competitive and just trying to impose they wheel

654
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: on each other, and I just felt things kind of

655
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: got a little out of hand. You think you think

656
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Lanson Dwight was serious?

657
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think.

658
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: I think in in the midst of that game, in

659
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: between the lines, they really had a real.

660
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: Fuel with each other. Uh.

661
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: And you can tell everything was so physical, man, Like,

662
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: let me tell y'all some chat. Y'all understand this, man,

663
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: The Big Three is probably the most physical basketball that

664
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I've been a part of. Yeah, Like, it's only it's

665
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: six guys out there, so you only got two other

666
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: teammates who can help you, and a lot of stuff

667
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: is borderline the rest let you get away with a lot.

668
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: It's far more physical than the NBA or any other,

669
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, basketball league that I've ever played in. So

670
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: I'll definitely give it that because I'm gonna tell you

671
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I felt like I got into

672
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: a fight with ten men when I woke up on Sun.

673
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: That was, like, I guess, it's real pure. It's a

674
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: lot of bumping, grind, bruising. Like it's tough, bro, but

675
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: it's fun at the same time. We all, I just

676
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: love competing. You ain't gonna fall for lance antics, are you? Nah? Nah?

677
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm way too too intact for that.

678
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: And then plus on top of that, man, when you

679
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: got a lot of game, he ain't got there.

680
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: You gotta do all that talking trying to cough you

681
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: out your game. Nah. Yeah. See, And I think Dwhite.

682
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: You know what he has understand is, you know, it

683
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: takes a while to kind of really understand the three

684
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: and three games, right, But just like the late Great

685
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: Russell said, man, this game is about buckets. You gotta

686
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: be able to score the basketball right period, Pump Blake,

687
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: you know we going to fifty. This ain't a time

688
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: and restraint like it ain't ten minutes on the clock

689
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: and you try to hold the lead. The hardest part

690
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: of three on three, specially in the Big Three, is

691
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: when you reach forty points and you try to close

692
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: the team out to get fifty because guys started to

693
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: get a little tight. It ain't them a little comfortable

694
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: shots you was taking early and making.

695
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: They ain't dropping no more because we didne got in

696
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: them legs.

697
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Now you're a little tired, you know what I mean,

698
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: and you're able to get away with a little more

699
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: as far as physic catally physic catally and kind of

700
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: rastling a little bit. So it's a lot tough than

701
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: what people think because you gotta go get the fifty.

702
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: But you gotta win by two, right, you gotta win

703
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: by two? Wow.

704
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: So letting let me ask you a question, Joe, what's

705
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: the secret of to dealer with the trash talk? Because

706
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of guys in the

707
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: NBA that talk to about off or he with us

708
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: self check you know, whatever the case they may or

709
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, how do you deal with that?

710
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: How do you compartmentalize what Joe has to do? And

711
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: while all these guys are chirping or the bench is

712
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: like offshot or whatever, chirping, how do you deal with that?

713
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: You gotta go up there. You can't sit back and

714
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: let them. You can't sit back and let them chirp

715
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: or let them be the aggressive offensively.

716
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: Man. You gotta take it to them, you know.

717
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: What I mean, Just like just like anything, you got

718
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: a guy who's being aggressive, man, you gotta take it

719
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: to them. Bro, this some type of game, it's gonna

720
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: be okay, let's go, let's do it. Yeah, there are a

721
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: lot of trash talking in your game on Saturday.

722
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: It was a lot.

723
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was some trash talking, but it was mainly

724
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: just good competition, you know what I mean.

725
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't like nothing overly.

726
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: But you know, you can see guys kind of get

727
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: raped up after they score out they make a big play,

728
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: which is pretty typical, you know what I mean.

729
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: But you just keep it moving. But in the Big

730
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: Three is not make it take it? Is it? Nah?

731
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: It ain't make it take it. It ain't make it

732
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: take it.

733
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: So you know you, oh, Joe Joe, that's the way

734
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: we used to play one on one, make it take it?

735
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you ain't, Hey, you don't even want to

736
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: get the ball back exactly if it was making take it.

737
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: You probably see a lot more outside of games, you

738
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, absolutely, because that the whole thing.

739
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: That's why you gotta shoot for a nod give me

740
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: the ball, no right to give it to you, right right?

741
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

742
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: Back of the day we played, especially one on one.

743
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: Say it's made it take it.

744
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 2: Twenty one. Yeah, I hope y'all. Y'all probably don't even

745
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: touch the ball.

746
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love twenty one because it was every man

747
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: for himself and bad boy. You got the nineteen oh

748
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: a whole squads done billed. Hey boy, you better hit

749
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: a hero. You better he wasn't have Steph Curry's because

750
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: you were not gonna get nothing easy.

751
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: So hey, look, and.

752
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Then you know twenty one you can't really call fouls,

753
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: so you got eighteen nineteen.

754
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: You're trying to go for the winning bucket. They be

755
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: fouling every day. No, it ain't no foul.

756
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: You ain't exactly, Joe, Do you think that like when

757
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: you first got into the league, were they're more trash

758
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: talking when you first got into the league or when

759
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: you leaving it.

760
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: When I first got in.

761
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: See when I first got in, I came in at

762
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: old one. So that's kind of you know, right after

763
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: the nineties. So you still got a lot of those guys. Oh,

764
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: you got KG, you got Gary Hayden, Gary Payton talked

765
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: to the refs and he the man like like they

766
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: old and money you're man talking about after some of

767
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: the stuff I heard GP say the refs man, I

768
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: can't even believe he didn't get text like you know

769
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was like conversation, but I'm like, wow,

770
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: like anybody else, they're gonna tee you up quick. So

771
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: you had certain guys who just had that reputation and

772
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: the refs knew it. They respected. It's almost kind of

773
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: like Draymond. You know, Draymond get away.

774
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: With a lot.

775
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely a lot of stuff he does is borderline,

776
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: but he get he gets away were far more than

777
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: what they catch him with, you know what I mean. Yeah,

778
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: So but Bak then Draymond, He's like, let me go

779
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: and get it out because I know they don't want

780
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: to throw me out the game. They're gonna be real. Hell,

781
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: they don't give me a long leash before they throw

782
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: me out the game. So I'm gonna push it right

783
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: up to the albill, push it up to the limit. Right,

784
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: And if I'm doing it every game, you ain't calling

785
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: that every game. You ain't gonna call it every game.

786
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: So they get him every now and then. But for

787
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: the most part, you know, he get away with a lot. Well,

788
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: y'all got a Oh that's gonna be a good one.

789
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: It is, hey, Bes, you know, Bees gonna be going

790
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: at you, Joe. Oh yeah, but I'm gona be going

791
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: right back. I don't know what y'all think this here.

792
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

793
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: See, the thing is, people say, uh and Bees is

794
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: a hell of a player, man, It's like but at

795
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: the same time, you gotta make him work defensively.

796
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: You can't let them sit and just be comfortable, you

797
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Right?

798
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be a damn good game.

799
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Ooh yeah, I better tune in.

800
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 2: I so Joe bas first to fifty win. It's gonna

801
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: be a good one, baby.

802
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks accidentally leaked plans for the number one

803
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: draft pick on their website with the first pick the

804
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks and the twenty twenty five NBA Draft selects

805
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Secret of America. Right, they ain't likeake nothing. Now if

806
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: we already knew what they were doing, Yeah, oh there,

807
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: y'all think. Oh, we thought y'all gonna take somebody else.

808
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: I just I honestly, I thought they was gonna probably

809
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: trade that pick and then go get KD. But to

810
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: my understanding, they keeping it. Yeah, yeah, I thought that

811
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: that would you know you wanted Yannis? I mean I

812
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: was like, okay, hey, we got number one pick and

813
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: another big but I mean, you think about it. The Lakers,

814
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: I mean the Milwaukee they traded Kareem, they.

815
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: Traded Ray Allen, So trade Yannis wouldn't surprise you. Man.

816
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: You can't even do you know what type of team

817
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: that would be when you don't even.

818
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: If the Mavericks got Yannis, you, I mean, without Kyrie,

819
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: you will still be I think you will still be

820
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: top of the Western Conference, at least top five.

821
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: With Yanna's.

822
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: And so and so. You say if Joannis went to

823
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the if Jannis went to the Mavericks and they had

824
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: to give up Kyrie, so Jannis.

825
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: And a D. Nah.

826
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you traded that Cooper flag flag okay,

827
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: and you had Jannison a D leading the charge until

828
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Kyrie man Oh yeah.

829
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: For sure, yeah yeah yeah, yea yea yeah yeah yeah absolutely.

830
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the next year, next year or two,

831
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: you you could potentially win a win a tighter. The

832
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: bar ball continues to push the LA Clippers to quit

833
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: play it in trade for LaMelo. The Clippers bring those

834
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: gd boy ball boys home. Let's go get a championship

835
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: and quit messing around all you fans who won a

836
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: championship back in La.

837
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: Yes, a whole new arena with the ball boys. Who

838
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: ain't gonna go up there and watch that show? Who

839
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: are you giving up to go get LaMelo? Man M,

840
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if uh.

841
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: They're not trading James Harden for him, they're not trading

842
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: Kawhi and they're not training Zubas. So you got Norman Poull,

843
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: You got done. I mean I'm trying to what else, nah, Manu.

844
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: The Hornets ain't doing that, not for not for their

845
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: young towned guy. And I think the thing is maybe,

846
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: look it's been proven, LaMelo and Lonzo can play. I

847
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: don't think Jello LeVar will have to get that one

848
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: up that that dog ain't gonna hunt. He's still trying

849
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: to get Jello in the league.

850
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: Yep.

851
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said je Jello got a whole new career

852
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: now he ain't starting the Yeah basketball and man trying

853
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: to come up with a hot another hot single right now.

854
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: On him. That's around. That's a round.

855
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: He look, he done found his niche Yeah, yeah, I mean,

856
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean to have two sons, I mean, I mean,

857
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: I guess it would be great. I mean because with

858
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: the holiday I think it's three holiday boys, right yeah, yeah,

859
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: and they got them in there. But you know, but look,

860
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: I can I can understand him one. You know, LaMelo

861
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: in La Obsens, his hometown, in that new arena, he'll

862
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: be box office in there. But if you the Huntings,

863
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Yeah, he boks off it. But

864
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: he's another one.

865
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Man.

866
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: He got to do something with them ankles. Man, his

867
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: ankle might be worse than Steph Curry's. And you remember

868
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: how Steph had ankle problems early.

869
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: In his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to try to keep him healthy, man, they

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Speaker 1: got to try to find a way they might he

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Speaker 1: might need to Hey, cal Steph and see what type

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Speaker 1: of brakest stepth be wearing man because Mello Man every

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Speaker 1: year is every year there's an injury going on. Just

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Speaker 1: got to get him on that. Gotta get him on

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Speaker 1: that mean fitness plan on getting what you think. Well,

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Speaker 1: his dad and his dad's a working was a workout warrior.

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Speaker 1: His dad played football. I mean if Jello got a

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Speaker 1: body like his dad. Uh and you look at Lonzoy

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Speaker 1: and Mellow, they got the fan frames, they don't have

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Speaker 1: that that size and that like the dad had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can.

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Speaker 1: But I think LaMelo can get like that wiry strength.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to get bigger. He just

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Speaker 1: needs to get stronger, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 1: we talked about the other night, you have to you

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Speaker 1: have to enjoy lifting. You have to lift weights to

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Speaker 1: be able to make it through an entire NBA season.

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Speaker 1: You can have too many games on a night to

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Speaker 1: night basis, and it wears your body down. And if

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Speaker 1: you're not fueling your body, meaning lifting weights to keep

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Speaker 1: your body strong, you're ultimately gonna deal with these little

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Speaker 1: knickknack injuries.

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Speaker 2: That's just that's just what it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So You gotta get him on this Men fitness plan. Man,

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Speaker 1: get him right, It'll be all right.