1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Well, Hello, Hello, Hello. 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: Hello, Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Short and Sweet. 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 4: I have a spring in my step. 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you do well. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: I have a spring in my step in a month 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: of April, which is also spring. 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: It is your favorite season. This is moreing timing. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, there are so many you're right, you're right. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: Well, spring sneaks up on you for all those who 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: live in four seasons, and sometimes you can be smacked 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: up in the middle of it and be like, is 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: it though? The daffodils tell me that it is? But 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: sometimes there's like ninety five mile an hour winds outside, yeah, 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: disgusting rain. 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: So how would I really know? 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Getting back to aforementioned spring in my step, Yesterday something 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: was announced that I have been I have been knowing 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: and keeping close to the vest for a minute, and 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: it is that I am going to join Ryan Murphy's 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: show nine one one, the franchise of nine one one, 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: and this one's going to be in Nashville with Chris 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: O'Donnell and some other very exciting people, but they have 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: yet to be announced. 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 3: And I'm going to be back on ABC. I didn't 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: want to scream during that whole thing. Do you know 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: how hard it was for me to not interrupt you. 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, let her have this moment, it's not about you, 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: but I was like, it's also about me, and she 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: got nine one one. I'm freaking out because Nashville is 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: truly one of my favorite cities. 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: We have family there. Have you ever even been to Nashville. 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I've never been been to Nashville, which is weird, and 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: it's definitely I mean, I feel like it's a it's 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: a stop on the world tour. Like I think you 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: got to go to Nashville in your life, and I 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: haven't been. 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I love Here's what I love about that city. 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: Sometimes you land in the city and it just la 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: Los Angeles has us too. 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: New York has us too. I think Chicago has it too. 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: It has that spark, it has that energy, it has 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: that liveliness. It feels like young and spicy and just like. 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: Dreams to be had. Also, I gotta tell you, I 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: love a storm. 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: I love a story. 49 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's where the drama is gonna come from, right, 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: That's where the first responders are going to have to 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: respond to the storms, whether they're emotional physical. 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 4: And the music, the music in Nashville. 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: Oh, if you heard you know what we should have 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: had Chris Carmack gone to talk about this with you 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: because he did the show in Nashville and he loves 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: he loved filming there so much. 57 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: He talks about it all the time. 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: And I just think, you're gonna it's like gonna be 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: your new second home and you're gonna have the best time. Ever, 60 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: how does it feel to finally be able to talk 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: about it? 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: Though? Well, that's so funny. 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: I you know, you and I know what it's like 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: to be actresses because we've been we are them. Yeah, 65 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: But it's funny how a lot of people will say 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: to me like, oh, like they'll have an assumption about 67 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: the audition process or about you know, or just how 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: things happen. And I think that if you've heard one 69 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: story of getting a job, you've heard one story of 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: getting a job. 71 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 4: Every everyone is different. 72 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: So I kind of treat every audition like it's it's 73 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: just all possibility. And I feel like I was taught 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: a long time ago that you just treat an audition 75 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: like you like you like you taught, like you like 76 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: you treated, you know, doing a scene in acting class, 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: like like give it You're all, yeah, you give it 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: your all, you lay it down and then you send 79 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: it off and then you know, you try and not 80 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: to get attached until you know that something is actually 81 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: really going to happen. And with this particular one, I mean, listen, 82 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: it has so many components that are just undeniably really 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: really exciting and just full of promise and possibility. And 84 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean I love the whole you know, I love 85 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: the country aspect of of just all things. 86 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: I love putting on an accent? 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: Are you going to do an accent? We have never 88 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: thought of this? 89 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: I know, this is this is all in progress. 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 2: I was just a Missoura is the Missouri coming Back? 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: Is the Maszuri come back? 92 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: Rashan Rasani is the showrunner, and I was speaking to 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: him the other day and we were we're just strategizing, 94 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, we're coming up with all the things and 95 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: where she's from and and and yeah. 96 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: So that's definitely a part of it. But you I 97 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: put together the audition was it on? 98 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so auditions for everyone that knows it's really changed 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: since the pandemic. We used to always go in in 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: person and read. Now there are two other ways to 101 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: do it. We tape ourselves, have someone reading in our homes. Right, 102 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: so you like your dog's barking in the background and 103 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: you're trying to like you can't, yeah, chaotic, or you 104 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: even do it on zoom, which is the most horrifying 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: idea to me, which is on a computer on a laptop. 106 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: You have to really be in the moment with someone, 107 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: which feels so awful. What was your first audition? 108 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: Well, so it's funny because and I remember I actually 109 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: remember specifically Jennifer Garner saying this, and I remember being 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: so greatly helped by her saying this because I saw 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: I so highly regard her and I think she's so 112 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: fantastic and she's clearly very successful. But I remember her 113 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: saying to me, I've never gotten a job off of 114 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: a tape, and I remember thinking, same girl, same like, 115 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what it knows about me, but like 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't. It's very hard to translate onto you know, 117 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: these audition tapes that you put in and you don't 118 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: get to have your personality. You have heuro human connection 119 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: and so you're really just completely operating in a vacuum because. 120 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: Someone of that magic that happens for booking a job 121 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: happens when you walk into the room, and it happens 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: not when you're doing the scene, but you're chatting at them, 123 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: and that's been taken away from actors. 124 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, Like I couldn't agree with that more. 125 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: And the funny thing about this one was that for 126 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: some reason, I actually can't even remember why, but I 127 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: went in in person and it was a it was 128 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: a casting office in the city, and I went in 129 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: and this the reader was so generous and so kind 130 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: and so much fun, and it was a lot of 131 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: it was a lot of dialogue. 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: And also I think in order to really, you know, 133 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: put everything into it, I memorize it so it's you 134 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: don't even really want to have it in your hand. 135 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: But then sometimes people will actually say that you should 136 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: have it in your hand, so it still looks like 137 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: a work in progress. 138 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: I always split the difference. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. 139 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: I think about that too, because what people don't realize 140 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: is if you have your script in your hand, it 141 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: kind of looks like him, I'm just working on this 142 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: with you and if you take it out, maybe it 143 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: looks like this is the only way I would do it. 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: This is the scene right here. I don't take direction. 145 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: It's it's solid. 146 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: This is my ten, this is giving my ten. We've 147 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: hit the ceiling. This is as good as I get. 148 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, The script in my hand meant I'm you know, 149 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: maybe maybe I'm a donate and I'm open. Don't worry. 150 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: I can get better, get better. I have not hit 151 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: my ceiling. Yes, And we worked it and it was 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: really fun. 153 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: And uh I walked away thinking, Okay. 154 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: I did everything I wanted to do, and I was 155 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: and I was proud. 156 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: Did you have like shaky knees in the waiting room? 157 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: I hate this shaw When you get the shakes, oh my. 158 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: Gosh, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 159 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: And of course when you're holding the paper, that gets 160 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: it to the holding the paper is the telltale giveaway 161 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: when it's a shaking the paper, shaking papers. 162 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you guys, I there's never really want 163 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: to be an actor. 164 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: God, it's so vulnerable. There's nothing I got to tell 165 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: you because you hate this. 166 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: Reactors all the time, like you know, Nicole Kimmen and 167 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: other people, they really think that they still might get 168 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: fired from jobs, Like we still have that insecurity as actors, 169 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: that like, it doesn't matter if you're scholar Johanson or whoever. 170 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: You really don't know in the moment if you've got it. 171 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 172 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: And then once you do, you know, as you and 173 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: I both know from playing characters for so long, then 174 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: you're afforded a luxury of knowing that you know the character. 175 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: You're playing more than anyone else. 176 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: Right. But but in the in this stage, you know, 177 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: your version is just your version, so it's it's and 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: then and then people see it and they either pick 179 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: it or they don't. But anyways, I I really enjoyed 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: it and I definitely felt like I gave it my all. 181 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: And then you kind of like, did you let it go? 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: Able to let it go? 183 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: Oh? 184 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean you try, but then you're you know, you're in. 185 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: And I also remember early days, uh, when you first 186 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: start acting, did you do this where you're like you 187 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: call your agent like at the end of the day 188 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: and you're like, it's any feedback. 189 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 4: Or you're kidding? 190 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: You don't still do that? I do that all? 191 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: I don't. 192 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't why because a very wise person said to 193 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: me unless you are unless your agent or your manager 194 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: knows you really, really well, and the feedback they get 195 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: is something that you need to know, like something that 196 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: needs to eat, like that really really is resonant, like 197 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: you really like you, like you need to know something. 198 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know what this would be, by the way, 199 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: but like you need to know something about the way 200 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: you audition. 201 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: Feedbacks all bullshit, like. 202 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: They're just giving you the reason you didn't get the job, 203 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: but the real information is you didn't get the job. 204 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter why. 205 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so, I mean, it's true. I think I 206 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: think what's hard for me is that when you're not 207 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: in the room, there's you're taking your own. 208 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: Direction, right, like you're sort of like throwing. 209 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: The dice and hoping that like maybe this is in 210 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: the zone of what they're wanting. And so my feedback 211 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: is less like did I get it and more like 212 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: do you need something else? 213 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: Because I can do it, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 214 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: but I understand. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm always like feedback. 215 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, feedback, what do I tell me? Tell me? Tell me? 216 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 4: I know, I me something different, I can do something different. 217 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: I can do it. All I can do it all. 218 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: You have a team, right, You've got managers and agents, 219 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: and I have two agents that have I've been working 220 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: with for the past one of them for I can't 221 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: even put a number on it, but it's been a 222 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: long time. And you know, they have to really believe 223 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: in you because they're selling you for every single thing 224 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: and you don't always get it. And they keep selling 225 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: you and selling you and telling everyone why you're the best, next, 226 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: best idea and all that stuff. And we've been together 227 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: for such a such a minute, and it takes a 228 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: lot of work on their part, and you know, we 229 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: have this audition and we had this possibility. And when 230 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: you get a phone call from any more than one 231 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: of the people on your team, you know it's like 232 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: good or bad news. 233 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. If you're on a job and. 234 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: They both and like your team calls, you're like, you're. 235 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: Fucked, I'm something bad it's happening. 236 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: And if you don't have a job and they call 237 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: on conference, you know it could. 238 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: Be good news. 239 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: Yes. 240 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: And when Harry and Jess called me, it was a Friday, 241 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: which we always call our day. I don't know how 242 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: it started, but we'd always connect on Fridays and they 243 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: told me, and we were it was such a celebration 244 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: and we've been together in it in the trenches, and 245 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: they were so excited to call with the good news. 246 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,359 Speaker 1: And it was a reminder that you don't do anything alone, 247 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I was there alone on the tape, 248 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: but it took a lot of people to get me there. 249 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: And I'm just so grateful for the teamwork that goes 250 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: into all things. 251 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like there is a whole team rooting, 252 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: rooting for you, and you know, yeah, exactly what you 253 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: just said, telling everyone you're the. 254 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: Most amazing thing and the reason why you're. 255 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: Right for the role, and yeah yeah, oh okay, So 256 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: how long did it take before you actually knew that 257 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: like you were the pick? 258 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: This one actually moves. Sometimes things can again, everything's different. 259 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes things move at a glacial pace for a bunch 260 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: of different reasons that again had nothing to do with you, 261 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: And sometimes things move really quickly. I feel very lucky 262 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: because all jobs are different. Sometimes you're taking a huge 263 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: leap of faith based on you know, you just really 264 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: love a script or you really want to play a character, 265 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: or a bunch of different things, and that can be 266 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: very exciting and there's absolutely a time and place for 267 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: doing that in a big way, and then something like 268 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: this can come along where you're like, I adore Chris O'Donnell. 269 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: I've been watching him for so long. I worked with 270 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: him early days I was on when I was on 271 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: the show called The Practice, he came and guest starred, 272 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: by the way, the same year that in the same 273 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: storyline as Patrick Dempsey, who guest starred on The Practice Child, 274 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: I know, And and it was probably like the year 275 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: or two before Patrick went on to to to Gray's. 276 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: And then Chris ended up on Grays Don't Forget he 277 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: played Finn. Yeah, oh forget? 278 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I know? 279 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: Can you imagine how. 280 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: No, we have not talked about that. We'll have to 281 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: catch up on that. Would it's like to have to 282 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: come in and like be the other in a. 283 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: But you know what, he was a great other because 284 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: some people. 285 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: Were team other I know. 286 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: So you know what, because he's just he's just so 287 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: darn likable. Yeah, just something about him likable. Now, but 288 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: on this show he plays your ex husband, I know, 289 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: my husband. 290 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: Oh, your current husband, current husband, oh current husband, oh. 291 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, current husband and family man. But he has his secrets. 292 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: That's what I read, and that's what I read in 293 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: the announced because that's all I'm going to say past that. 294 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't, no, no, don't. 295 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: It's all going to be a mystery, yes, and that 296 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: you know what, we get to share it with the 297 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: Call It crew as we're allowed to talk about it, 298 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: and that's so fun. 299 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 300 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: But just I mean, such incredible people being a part 301 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: of it, right, like obviously Ryan Murphy who also, funnily enough, 302 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: early early days, just out of college, I'm I'm, you know, 303 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: auditioning for things. And one of the first shows that 304 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: I auditioned for was one of his first shows called 305 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Popular Oh. 306 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah about high school and great show. People loved that show. 307 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: Wow yeah, and he was so. 308 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Great and I and I mean, we're uving both babies, 309 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: and then Brad Foulchek producing it, and Tim Near and 310 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: then Rashad Rasani's show running, and I. 311 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: Just, I mean just I couldn't. I could not be 312 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: more excited. I think it's going to be. 313 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm very very I'm just really excited. 314 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So I have to tell you. 315 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: I posted yesterday on Instagram and I was like, but 316 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: you know, obviously and uh in my. 317 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Comments they go, you have posted this announcement before Jessica has, which. 318 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: I didn't realize because I was like, of course she's done, 319 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: and it was like, no, you were out and about 320 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: in the world yesterday and I had clearly a lot 321 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: of time. 322 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: And I the second it came out, like you're number 323 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: one fan. 324 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: Like frying, Lie, I love it. I love it well. 325 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: You and I have been talking about it because of 326 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: course I had. 327 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously keep it secrets you knew, and so 328 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: I honestly wanted it to come out more so that 329 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: I could tell you that it came out. 330 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: Also because I was bugging you. I'm like, when can 331 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: we When can I? Because you were like, don't tell anybody, 332 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: and I couldn't. I know. I have this thing in 333 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: my mind where I had this moment in my mind 334 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: where sometimes ABC does these events right before the fall 335 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: lineup or whenever, and all the shows walk the carpet 336 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: and you see the Bachelor there, and I was like, 337 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm going to be on the carpet 338 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: for Grays and aatam. 339 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to look over it literally makes me emotional. 340 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: I don't know why, and see you and you're going 341 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: to be there for nine to one to one, and 342 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I'm gonna point to. 343 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: You, yeah, and we're going to share some eye contact. 344 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: This is I love you. You're in a different show, 345 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: but I still love you. 346 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: I think the eye contacts gonna happen, but that you 347 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: didn't include the part ride then run over to you. 348 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I know. 349 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, let's just do the rest of 350 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: the press. Let's do the rest of the press line together. 351 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I a double a double stages before. 352 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: For you know, promoting fall lineups. 353 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: I know, because listen if we got to go to 354 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: upfronts together. 355 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: Again, dreamsh I mean dream Yeah. I love it. I 356 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: love it. I love it. It was great and you 357 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: know what, it was nice that I was announced and 358 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: it was also. 359 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: What was the response, Well, I was gonna say social, 360 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: the socials. 361 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think Instagram probably, you know, in its 362 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: ideation that the whole cell was like you can share 363 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: with a ton of people instead of having to you know, 364 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: text each person. 365 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: Right, So it did that yesterday. 366 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: It felt like a very big your phone was below 367 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: it all cats. 368 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: Out and it was very you know, It's just it's 369 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: such a great thing to hear from all sorts of 370 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: people it and it really reveals for me it was 371 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: such a warm hug because I can tell you now 372 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: and I'm not even twenty four hours from it. But honestly, 373 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: the messages that I've received have run the spectrum of. 374 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 4: Places and people in my life. 375 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: It was all good, and the girl and like the 376 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: kids were excited for it to be out there. 377 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: And I always think, you know, you know that how 378 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 4: I feel about this. I am. 379 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: I feel lucky enough to love my job. And part 380 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: of the responsibility that I feel in that is that 381 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I when I have when I when I go to work, 382 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: I try very hard to never say to them I 383 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: have to go to work, right, I have to leave 384 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: you and I and I really wish I didn't and 385 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: all that not because I don't have to go to work, 386 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: because yes, that is how you get bills paid. 387 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: You do have to go to work. 388 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: But I do love framing it for them in the 389 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: sense that that I get to go to work. You 390 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: know that I that I I thankfully have a profession 391 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: that I'm excited about, and that going to work it's 392 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: not always easy, but it's fulfilling and it serves a purpose. Again, 393 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: it's not a volunteer job, right, there's an exchange of 394 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: value and and that you go do that, and so 395 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: I love that part of it for the kids, and 396 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: it's all just it's kind of just been really great 397 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: again less than twenty four hours. 398 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: But I'm very h Now. 399 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: Well, we had to we had to hop on here. 400 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: It was like an emergency shortened seet situation where. 401 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because you haven't been able to. 402 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: This is like your first sort of public conversation about 403 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 3: it other than announce. 404 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: So I'm so glad that we get to share this 405 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: with all you guys. 406 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: And I'm very excited to be working with Chris again. 407 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: I can't talk about all the other exciting people too. 408 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: But you know what you're gonna find out about him 409 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: and you're gonna come visit me. 410 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: Right. 411 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: Is that a joke? 412 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: Okay? 413 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: I mean little we have family there. I love I 414 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: love Nashville. 415 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: I told you the other city that I would love 416 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 3: to move to at some point would be Nashville. 417 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: So listen, since it's ABC, I mean, is. 418 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: It such a stretch that Joe Wilson, Well, listen, I 419 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: don't know. 420 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if there's a hurricane and so you know, 421 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: a tornado when they need someone to get sucked up there. 422 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I've seen a crossover. A crossover I'm seeing 423 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 5: all right, A little a little com mingling, yes, a 424 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: little com mingle. 425 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: I will listen. 426 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there, whether I'm in a tornado or not, 427 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: I will be there. I love you so much. I'm 428 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: so glad we get to talk about this. I am. 429 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: I can't believe your helping headline a new show and 430 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: it's on ABC. 431 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: It feels like back in the family of everything. 432 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: And to get to see you back on our screens 433 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: every week. You're wilcome everybody, explorgeous face. I mean I 434 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: get to see her every week anyway, but I mean 435 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 3: you guys all get to see her, and the show 436 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: is going to be incredible. All those shows are so fun, 437 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: and yeah, well deserves to new. 438 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: Things to spring in, new things to spring in. 439 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 4: New things. I love you. I love your support. You 440 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: know what it's like. 441 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: And I truly feel like every time I have something 442 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: that I fall in love with on some level and 443 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: I call you about it, you just always believe in 444 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: me when sometimes, oh I'm getting emotional, sometimes I don't 445 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: believe in me yeah, or I think maybe you know, oh, 446 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: it's going to go to someone else or this or that, 447 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: and you always you always think it's going to be me. 448 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: And then when it is, and I call you and 449 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 3: I explained why they were horribly wrong and why no 450 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: one's going to watch that, why the ratings will tank 451 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: and it'll get canceled, and I'm sorry about that, but 452 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: you may. 453 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: So the wrong. 454 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: Goddamn joice. 455 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: This is why our friendship really works. 456 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: It works so. 457 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: Well, it's okay, it's meant to be. 458 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it's meant to be that the show 459 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: gets canceled. 460 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, there we go. 461 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Okay, well, here we go on to this next really fun, 462 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: exciting and promising chapter. 463 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: Okay, let's call it the end of the episode.