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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Happy to have you

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Speaker 2: with us, Thanks for joining us on a kind of

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Speaker 2: a soggy Tuesday here in Western New York. The rain

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Speaker 2: blew through yesterday. For those that don't remember, training camp

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Speaker 2: practice yesterday, I got moved up an hour early because

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Speaker 2: they were worried about the weather coming in. We had

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Speaker 2: an EF one tornado Ontown Buffalo yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did you drive?

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Speaker 2: Did you drive through any of that on the throughway

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Speaker 2: on the way back from camp?

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Speaker 3: Because you didn't?

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 4: It was by the time I drove back, I had

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Speaker 4: an event I had to go too, so behind time

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Speaker 4: I drove.

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Speaker 1: Back, it was I got a little rain, but that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we was bad pounded. Did you somewhere between exit

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Speaker 2: forty seven and forty eight, No, forty eight and forty

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Speaker 1: Batavia and forty ninety in Rochester Roy.

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Speaker 2: The Little Roy exit and the Tava exsit we got ye.

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Speaker 2: It was everybody had to come to a stop because

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Speaker 2: it was raining that hard. You could not see, your wipers,

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Speaker 2: so we slowed to a crawl probably for about good

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Speaker 2: little bit. And then I get home and find out

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Speaker 2: tornado in downtown Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I saw the clips on social media about, you know,

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Speaker 4: the actual video of the thing going through and it

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Speaker 4: was kind of an invisible funnel cloud.

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Speaker 1: You could tell it was there.

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Speaker 2: Well, based on all the stuff that was flying around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, obviously I'm and people know I

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Speaker 4: grew up in Kansas, which is a season veteran. I

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Speaker 4: am a seasoned veteran. I've seen multiple tornadoes in my day,

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Speaker 4: and they are not something to be trifled with. But

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Speaker 4: if you're even a mile away, you're you're pretty safe.

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Speaker 1: But it's frightening.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing how localized those things are there there.

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Speaker 2: It's the one house that got their roof ripped off,

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Speaker 2: the house next to it's completely fine that there isn't

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Speaker 2: a shingle missing.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: It's it's stunning.

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Speaker 4: It is it's nature, yeah, but it's yeah, you can't

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Speaker 4: get caught in a tornado or you just you're not

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Speaker 4: going to live to tell about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see one of the local mediorologists point

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Speaker 2: out in New York State, we've already broken the record

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Speaker 2: for most documented tornadoes in New York State in a

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Speaker 2: calendar year. And it's only August, right, twenty six. Now

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Speaker 2: it broke the season.

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Speaker 4: There's a season for tornadoes, and its fall, when when

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Speaker 4: the heat, when the stuff, and this is the way

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Speaker 4: I'm let me just let me just you know, opinionate

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Speaker 4: myself here. I don't know anything about anything, but it

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Speaker 4: seems like late summer when things heat up because of

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Speaker 4: the sunshine and you get thunderstorms because of the heat

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Speaker 4: clouds and you get thunderstorms, and then all of a

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Speaker 4: sudden you get a wind with it and a kind

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Speaker 4: of cold front coming through in the fall, the whole

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Speaker 1: Forget it. You're done, Yeah, you're done. Spin the city yeah,

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Speaker 1: very much so.

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Speaker 2: So Fortunately, at least last I it was striking. There

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Speaker 2: were no documented injuries, There were no fatalities, thankfully.

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Speaker 1: So did you see the cars City mission? Now the City.

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Speaker 2: Mission one was turned into a spinning top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and the others are all it was

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Speaker 1: like banging into.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one that got lifted up got knocked into

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Speaker 2: another one and then flipped over.

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Speaker 3: Not good.

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Speaker 1: Think about what it would take for a win to

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Speaker 1: be that strong to flip a car and banging around

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Speaker 1: like a pinball, that's what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: It's man, it's stunning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, turned them into a couple of poker chips. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: day off today for the Bills. They will be back

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Speaker 2: at it tomorrow out of training camp scheduled practice nine

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Speaker 2: five and then after that one more practice at camp

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Speaker 2: and it's ABC later. It's all over out at Saint

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Speaker 2: John Fisher after Thursday's session and then they're they're back

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Speaker 2: from camp now. Training camp transitions from Saint John Fisher

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Speaker 4: And you know, we do live kind of a little

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Speaker 4: bit in a little bubble over here about Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. But you know, Thursday night it's the

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Speaker 4: Panthers and the Patriots. Yeah, Friday it's the Texans at

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Speaker 4: the Steelers. Saturday you've got Bears, Bills, Raiders, Vikings, Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville Chiefs, Jaguars. And then on Sunday, the Broncos and

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Speaker 4: the Colts and the Cowboys and the Rams. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's here we go, folks.

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Speaker 2: We got games, hey, man, have games on Monday.

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Speaker 3: It looks like.

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Speaker 2: Week one schedule.

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Speaker 1: This is week one of the preseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's wild.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing here we are. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For those folks out of town that will not watch

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Speaker 2: the local broadcast of the game, there is NFL Network

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Speaker 2: coverage from what I can see here in the announcement

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Speaker 2: by NFL Network, they will carry it.

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Speaker 3: So as long as you have.

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Speaker 2: An NFL network out of the Buffalo Western New York

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Speaker 2: viewing area should be able to get the game there.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 4: Today is today's August sixth. Atlanta is at Miami practicing

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Speaker 4: against the Dolphins. The Falcons against the Dolphins, and then

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Speaker 4: for the weekend, of course, it's going to be the

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Speaker 4: Rams at Dallas practicing before their game. And what the

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Speaker 4: Commanders at New Jersey at at New Jersey Jets they'll

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Speaker 4: be practicing against before their game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there's no games on Monday. I was looking

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Speaker 2: at this. This is a re wrack of some of

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Speaker 2: the games from the weekend that they will air.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's what.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they got Yeah, these we we talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about it that how many teams are having joint practice.

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Speaker 4: The Bills head to Pittsburgh early next week. They're going

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Speaker 4: to have a Thursday practice, joint practice closed to the public,

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Speaker 4: open to the media. Thursday Friday, they'll have a little

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Speaker 4: bit of a day off to kind of get off

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Speaker 4: their feet, and then the game is Saturday night, seven pm.

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Speaker 4: Nice and the Bills, of course. Uh that's next week.

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Speaker 4: This week, the Bills are home against the Bears, and

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Speaker 4: we're Chris Brown, the voice of the Buffalo Bills, will

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Speaker 4: be calling that and myself and Catman will be doing

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Speaker 4: your Andrew catalog.

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Speaker 1: So we're starting. We got it, man, we got it.

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Speaker 1: Should we have had a training camp to get ready.

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Speaker 2: For this, or I hope you've been getting ready?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean okay, I mean yeah, but I haven't

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Speaker 4: seen I haven't laid eyes on Andrew for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know who he is, you know how he operates,

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Speaker 2: You've worked with him before. This doesn't have this isn't

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Speaker 2: foreign territory for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actually staying at the house, So I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna staying at the tasker compound.

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Speaker 4: He's staying at the house and then later on because Monday,

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Speaker 4: for those of you who keep tracking this stuff, is

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Speaker 4: Jim Kelly golf tournament over it. So all those the

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Speaker 4: geezers will be coming in. For Gers like me will

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Speaker 4: be coming in to do it. I got a couple

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Speaker 1: By the pad to flop.

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Speaker 4: So they'll be in town and uh, we'll get a

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Speaker 4: chance to see all the old guys, which is always fun.

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Speaker 1: It's always fun.

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Speaker 4: But that's a that's a big weekend. This is it

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Speaker 4: big weekend for you think about it. This is I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's yeah for us, for you and me, it's like

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Speaker 4: summer is like.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thanks guyss, thanks for coming.

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Speaker 4: Training camp starts last little It's like it's like you

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Speaker 4: get that nice steak and they tell you to put

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Speaker 4: it in the broiler for like thirty seconds before you

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Speaker 4: serve it.

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Speaker 1: You know, like just to get that little kid that's

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Speaker 4: Just throw you in the broiler for just a week

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Speaker 4: or two and then you're out and you're ready for

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 1: We'll get that last little cook in.

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Speaker 2: We have to go around the NFL, and it looks

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Speaker 2: like we are awaiting the fate of one Brandon Ayuk.

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Speaker 2: News broke overnight that the Niners had been in consultation

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Speaker 2: provided that proper compensation was coming the other way, and

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Speaker 2: the first four years of his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's audios.

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Speaker 2: I did see in one of the reports on this

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Speaker 2: a MARII Cooper who has a year left on his

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Speaker 4: And what's what's I'm check what Amari Cooper's making then,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mari Cooper I think is making about eighteen nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I want to say that's a big number somewhere well,

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Speaker 2: not as big as what the fourteen, as big as

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Speaker 2: what Ayuk wants.

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Speaker 4: Right, but it's also not fourteen that Ayuk was making.

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Speaker 4: So it do take a little bit of a hit there,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see what comes of it. So at

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Speaker 2: this point, it's out there how many conversations these teams

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Speaker 2: and see until something gets finalized, or if it gets finalized.

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Speaker 2: But I gotta believe that Brandon Ayuk has pretty much

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Speaker 2: I mean, his fate with the Niners seems pretty much

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Speaker 2: see it. He's a good player here, yeah, and in

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Speaker 2: the prime of his career. Interesting, which is why he

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Speaker 2: wants top shelf money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got every right to ask for that money,

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Speaker 4: and he's he's got every right to believe he's earned

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Speaker 4: it career season. It'll be interesting to see if a

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is well, that's right, But.

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Speaker 2: You know, how about our good friend Alex van Pelt.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he'd like to have him in New England?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, yeah, But now it's going to be Ken

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Speaker 3: But Ken Dorsey is not calling the place.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you think about it, Kevin Stefanski, Ken Dorsey,

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Speaker 4: you gotta certainly they can go back and watch film

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Speaker 4: and just kind of mimic what the Niners did. But

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Speaker 2: this fortunate. We were familiar with naming rights for stadiums, right, yeah, people,

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Speaker 1: I need to be Is it gonna be pit Bull Stadium?

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Speaker 3: What a jack wagon? What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Saturday's preseason opener against the Bears here at Heimark Stadium,

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Speaker 5: one pm kickoff. Which player are you zeroing in on.

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Speaker 2: In Saturday's preseason opener? Many of you have not seen

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Speaker 2: it these days. I think there's a number of choices

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Speaker 4: Right and certainly what will happen with the quarterbacks like Josh.

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Speaker 2: think more frontline players will probably be participating on the

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, and perhaps for longer stretches

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Speaker 2: than on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: have to see. I'm curious to see how coach McDermott

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Speaker 2: and his coaching staff decide on that, because what also

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Speaker 2: goes into that decision making are the position battles they

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Speaker 2: want to give players in a position battle, whether it's

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Speaker 2: for a starting job or a backup job, the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to earn that job. And some of the most telling

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Speaker 2: evidence for coaches in terms of evaluations on players is

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Speaker 2: preseason games. So they're going to have to play them

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Speaker 2: to some degree. You can't just blow off the preseason,

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Speaker 2: and I would say coach McDermott probably falls into the

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Speaker 2: category of making use of the preseason more than some

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Speaker 2: other coaches. I mean, there's some other coaches their vets

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Speaker 2: don't even see the field in any of the three

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Speaker 2: preseason games. Coach McDermott, even in the final preseason games

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Speaker 2: in past years, will have like some veterans dressed. They'll

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Speaker 2: come out for a series and then that'll be it.

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Speaker 2: But they'll, at least to your point, make them go

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Speaker 2: through the paces of getting ready for a game, so

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Speaker 2: it's not something that's in the distant rear view mirror

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Speaker 2: by the time they get to.

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Speaker 4: Week one game day routine. Even when you get up,

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Speaker 4: what you eat meal, the whole thing. They run through that,

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Speaker 4: so they can so nothing that happens in a regular

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Speaker 4: season as a surprise or that is something that you've

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Speaker 4: never been through before. They'll do that purposefully. But man,

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Speaker 4: I you know finger quotes. If I was a head coach.

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Speaker 4: Of course, I'm a former player, so I'd be like,

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Speaker 4: my guys would be sitting there doing nothing. And I

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Speaker 4: remember I used to hate it. There was a preseason,

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Speaker 4: preseason game at one point I took three snaps. I

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Speaker 4: took the first kickoff, the first punt, and if there

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Speaker 4: was a kickoff return, I'd take it, or if there

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Speaker 4: was a punt return, I'd take that.

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Speaker 6: That was it.

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Speaker 1: I'd be sat down and.

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Speaker 4: Then we'd go on to get annihilated by some team

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Speaker 4: that under normal circumstances we would absolutely tent peg like

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Speaker 4: they were a tent steak and we'd pound them into

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Speaker 4: the ground, I mean, and they beat us in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: It was frustrating. Used to just drive me crazy. I

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Speaker 1: think it was a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit of a a little bit of a technique

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Speaker 4: by Marv to get us frustrated about not being able

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Speaker 4: to like really cut on a team until the regular

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Speaker 4: season started, and then all of a sudden, we go, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Finally, let's go.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of a little bit of that, But

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Speaker 4: man oh man, the preseason is a is a completely

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Speaker 4: different animal, and most of these guys know it. But

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Speaker 4: once you do know it, you can get a plan

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Speaker 4: for it, the coaching staff, the players and stuff that

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Speaker 4: you can feel good about it.

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Speaker 2: Which player are you zeroing in on for Saturday's preseason

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Speaker 2: opener against the Bears?

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Speaker 3: You let us know it, aight, O three oh.

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Speaker 2: Five fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five point fifty.

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Speaker 2: Those are the numbers to join us, or you can

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Speaker 2: hit us up on the tweets sheet at One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: We take a break here, but your phone calls next.

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Speaker 7: Stay with us all right back here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you topic of discussion today?

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Speaker 2: Which player are you zeroing in on for Buffalo's preseason

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Speaker 2: opener against the Bears on Saturday at one pm. A

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Speaker 2: lot of you haven't seen training camp up close and personal.

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Speaker 2: This will be your first look at the team. Who

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Speaker 2: are you most interested in getting eyeballs on Saturday against

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Speaker 2: the Bears? Eight o three zero five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Those are

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Speaker 2: the numbers to jump on board with us and we

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Speaker 2: go to the phones now and leading us off is

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Speaker 2: Chris in Hamburg. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Chris?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, guys, how you doing good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 6: Good? Hey Chris. Personally I want to say is congratulations

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Speaker 6: on your promotion. Thank you? You know, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 6: put a lot of hard work in and it wasn't

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Speaker 6: given to you in many, many years of you doing this.

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Speaker 6: It's great and I'm just really proud of you, man,

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Speaker 6: because you just you're really good at what you do.

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Speaker 6: But my question is Cole Bishop. I don't know a

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Speaker 6: lot about him. A lot of the analysts are saying

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Speaker 6: that he's not worthy of a second round pick. I

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Speaker 6: don't know. I don't know a lot about this guy. So,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know what do you guys think

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Speaker 6: about Cold Bishop? And I really want to see him

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Speaker 6: do well, But do you think he's worthy of a

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Speaker 6: second round picking? I'll just hang up and listen.

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Speaker 2: Sure thing, thanks, Chris. Uh you want to take his

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Speaker 2: draft status?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think first I thought the Bill's got some

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Speaker 4: kudos for taking him in the second round. Certainly, that's

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Speaker 4: I think that's right where it was. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he was going to go up as a first round

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Speaker 4: pick because he's safety to begin with. Athletically he is

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Speaker 4: every bit of an NFL player. The injury set him back,

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Speaker 4: no question about it, and continues to But yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think I got any pushback from

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Speaker 4: Cole Bishop getting taken where he did, which was it

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Speaker 4: wasn't the second round, was it not? Yeah, they had

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Speaker 4: two picks, two picks in round two. So yeah, I'm no.

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Speaker 4: I think Cole Bishop was drafted right about where he

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Speaker 4: was expected to be drafted in that range. I don't

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Speaker 4: think he was a reach, and mainly because of his position.

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Speaker 4: You don't see safeties taken in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the only safety that went ahead of him,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Nuben and then Javon Bullard, the Georgia's safety went

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Speaker 2: to Green Bay two picks before him, and Tyler Nuben,

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Speaker 2: which many people felt was the most complete safety in

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Speaker 2: the draft out of Minnesota, went to the Giants that

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Speaker 2: pick forty seven. I thought he went right where a

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Speaker 2: lot of people thought he would go in that range

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Speaker 2: bottom half a round two, and I think one of

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Speaker 2: the only question on him was whether or not he

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Speaker 2: had the athletic skill set to cover the DP half

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Speaker 2: as a post safety. And that was a question that

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Speaker 2: the Bills had as well, because the way he was

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Speaker 2: utilized at Utah in what was largely a man coverage

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Speaker 2: scheme was closer to the line of scrimmage and the Bills,

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Speaker 2: I believe he was at the Senior Bowl and the Bills,

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Speaker 2: along with a bunch of other clubs, asked the coaching

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Speaker 2: staffs to line him up at post safety in team

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Speaker 2: situations because they wanted to see what his level of

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Speaker 2: coverage could be when he was back there by himself,

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Speaker 2: and Brandon Bean told us when he was on the

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Speaker 2: show with us back in the spring, he said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he convinced us he could play either safety position equally.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: They just didn't have enough film evidence to know for sure,

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Speaker 2: but after seeing him do it in the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 2: they felt a lot more comfortable that he could be

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Speaker 2: a complete safety for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Athletically, I.

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Speaker 4: Think the Bills are really happy with where he's at

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Speaker 4: and what he's shown them.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 4: As we talked about early in cana is a completely

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Speaker 4: new kind of system for him, defensive system, so he's

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Speaker 4: got a big adjustment mentally, and as you heard with

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Speaker 4: the Taylor Rap conversation, they're putting a lot on their plate,

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Speaker 4: which means, yeah, if Raps got it.

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Speaker 1: On his plate, Bishop's got it on his plate.

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Speaker 2: And he's missed a week of practic this with you know,

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Speaker 2: the injury that he's dealing with now, a shoulder injury,

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Speaker 2: So I would not anticipate seeing him unfortunately Chris in

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Speaker 2: the preseason opener.

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Speaker 3: He's missed a week of.

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Speaker 2: Practice and I don't know that he's getting back on

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Speaker 2: the field anytime this week. So the thought of him

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Speaker 2: jumping into a preseason game I think is pretty remote

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Speaker 2: and probably not going to happen this week. You know.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he's in better shape next week and maybe can

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Speaker 2: get some practice in and then play against Pittsburgh, but

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Speaker 2: all of that is very much up in the air.

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Speaker 2: So safety positions in a little bit of a state

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Speaker 2: of flux with Mike Edwards and Cole Bishop on the

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Speaker 2: injury or list and sideline right now, because those were

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Speaker 2: two guys that I think were safely forecasted as two

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Speaker 2: of the top three safeties on the roster along with

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Speaker 2: Taylor Rap, and right now they're out of the equation

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 4: Like what happened with the linebacker spot last year, that

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Speaker 4: you had the spot vacated by Tremaine Edmunds, like three

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Speaker 4: or four guys in the mix, and then you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody started getting hurt and they couldn't practice. So when

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Speaker 4: the season rolled around, they had somebody out there they

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Speaker 4: trusted and that's who they went with, and that was

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Speaker 4: Terrell Bernard and it worked out extremely well.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Cassidy in attakin X.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for his?

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Speaker 2: Cassidy?

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Speaker 3: You're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Chris A, Steve, thanks for bringing me on. I

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Speaker 9: wanted to say either Taylor Rap or Tomorrow Hamlin just

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Speaker 9: because obviously the safety rooms can be completely different, and

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Speaker 9: I was interested to see Taylor Rap kind of man

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Speaker 9: in the head and the man back there, and then

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Speaker 9: Tomara Hamlin obviously getting the first shot at things because

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Speaker 9: of injuries and his recovery first full year back after

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Speaker 9: everything he went through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good call.

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Speaker 2: And I would say Cassidy that those two players, you

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Speaker 2: could argue are two of the guys on this roster

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Speaker 2: that have looked most different last year to this year.

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Speaker 2: I think Hamlin was still clearing a lot of mental

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Speaker 2: hurdles on the thought of playing full contact football again

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Speaker 2: after his cardiac event, and I thought last year was

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Speaker 2: kind of a what's the word I'm trying to find

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Speaker 2: for that, like a progress year, a stepping stone year,

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Speaker 2: if you will. Where yes, he was dressed, he was

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Speaker 2: playing football. In my mind, DeMar Hamlin was not playing

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Speaker 2: the complete physical style of football that he had become

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Speaker 2: known for playing because prior to his cardiac event, DeMar

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Speaker 2: Hamlin was a heat seeking missile. He would throw his

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Speaker 2: body into piles, he would submarine players. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: had no recourse or care in the world about his body.

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Speaker 2: He was more concerned with making a play, and I

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Speaker 2: think the cardiac event interrupted his trademark style of play.

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Speaker 2: Last year to a certain degree. I think this year, now,

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Speaker 2: another year removed from that, I think we've seen more

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Speaker 2: signs of his physical brand of plays, which is what

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Speaker 2: made him attractive to the Bills in the first place

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Speaker 2: and why they used the sixth round pick on him

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Speaker 2: a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think talking, if you talk to him, he

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Speaker 4: would tell you that he feels in a much different place. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: getting back on the field was a huge step, but

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Speaker 4: being back to normal was a step that comes after getting.

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Speaker 1: Back on the field.

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Speaker 4: And I think Damar was in a place a lot similar,

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Speaker 4: very similar to where von Miller was last year, where

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Speaker 4: you get out there and you think, Okay, I think

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Speaker 4: this is going to be fine. I hope it's going

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Speaker 4: to be fine. Yeah, And then you spend the whole year,

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Speaker 4: and then when he come to another offseason and you're

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00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 4: that much further away from the event, you think, you

665
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: know what, it is going to be fine, and now

666
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: you can come out and play and he's and he's

667
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: played like his old self for a lot more like

668
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: his own.

669
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: And I know we mentioned this on the show yesterday

670
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: regarding Taylor Rapp, but I think we kind of saw

671
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: him a little bit of a tentative player last year,

672
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: first year in the system, number one, deferring to veteran

673
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: stalwarts and Poyer and hide number two at the position.

674
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: And so I think he was searching last year for

675
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: what his role was, and now this year, I think

676
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: his role is very clearly defined, and Bobby Babbage has

677
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: made it very clear to him that he is depending

678
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: on him to really kind of run things on the

679
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: back end. And I think that has given him confidence

680
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: a to lead and b to play the more physical

681
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: style that he was known for, which made him attractive

682
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: to the Bills as a free agent.

683
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

684
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you think about it. They've got, you know,

685
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 4: the guys they've got back there. He's kind of the

686
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: most veteran guy who's played, you.

687
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Know, in this system, in the system aside from DeMar

688
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: And maybe that's what.

689
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. We're talking about tomorrow.

690
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh tomorrow, Okay, So all that stuff put it

691
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: goes in there. He's an important I think he's an

692
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: important voice back there.

693
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: Allah And right now, I mean Rap and Hamlin have

694
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: been running together in practice with the top group, due

695
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: primarily to the fact that Edwards and Bishop aren't part

696
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: of the equation. Right now and then the veteran free

697
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: agent signees that were added to the roster after Bishop

698
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: and Edwards went down to injury in Kareem Jackson and

699
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: Terrell Burgess. They're just getting their feet wet. They're kind

700
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: of running with the threes. So and then you have

701
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: some other guys candidates that are running with the backup group,

702
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, like d Delaney. So yeah, I mean it's

703
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: not like they don't have people, but I think people

704
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: are going to be very interested to see how Rapp

705
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: and Hamlin play off one another, knowing that Edwards and

706
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 2: Bishop are just probably.

707
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Not going to play this weekend.

708
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones and to Mark

709
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: and west senecon X, what do you got for his Mark.

710
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: Hey, Steve and Chris.

711
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 10: I have three guys, and mainly because if they can

712
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 10: really be significant this year, it's going to be a

713
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 10: really big boost to the position groups, and that is

714
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 10: Shavers Elam and of course Hamilon was you guys have

715
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 10: just talked about Hamlon. I was really curious as to

716
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 10: where he was at, you know, mentally, because I think

717
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 10: he's back physically. But and then also I'm really interested

718
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 10: to see how our backup offensive linemen are going to

719
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 10: stack up against Chicago's second group, and I know Chicago's

720
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 10: first group is is formidable. They've got a good defense.

721
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 10: I don't know how good they are depth wise with

722
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 10: their second stringers. But I'm really especially interested to see

723
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 10: how that kid from Georgia the center is going to

724
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 10: look against NFL players now considering his pedigree. So those

725
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 10: are the areas that I was looking at. So okay,

726
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 10: thanks guys.

727
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, appreciate the call.

728
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: That's a good call.

729
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: And you're right, you're the center you're talking about is

730
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: Cedric van prim Grainger, who I don't think it's going

731
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: to be too big for him. I mean, the guy's

732
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: been playing against the top flight college players who have.

733
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Speaker 1: Gone high in their first round picks.

734
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: Uh, So he's playing against physically talented dudes practicing against

735
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 4: him over the last four years. But I'm with you,

736
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: I would love to see the guy play, see how

737
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: he does. That's going to be an interesting, interesting little

738
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: bit of information.

739
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern addressed the media just the other day at

740
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: training camp and he was asked about Van pram Granger,

741
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: and he said, Cedric is super smart, understands the position,

742
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: and his pretty talented player. He said, the only thing

743
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: we're trying to get him to do is to just

744
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: slow down. He's trying to do everything all at once,

745
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: between line calls, snaps, communication, and then execution. And he says,

746
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: sometimes we just got to tell him, you got to

747
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: slow down a little bit. It's almost like the adrenalines

748
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: pumping too much. So I found that an interesting critique

749
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: by McGovern of Van pran Granger. But by McGovern's account,

750
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: he thinks it's all there for Van pray Granger, and

751
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: you know, he's valuable depth. And I think you know

752
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: the guy that gets overlooked a lot is Will Clapp,

753
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: who's a veteran center played with the Chargers the last

754
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: couple of years. I mean, he's in the mix also,

755
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I would expect both Clap and Van

756
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Pray Granger to get a ton of time on Saturday.

757
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: But Steve's right, I mean, Van Paran Granger has been

758
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: going against the best defensive tackles in the SEC. The

759
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: second group for the Bears. Their D line goes Dominique Robinson,

760
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Zach Pickens, who's a good player, former third round pick

761
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: last year out of South Carolina, Byron Coward and Jacob Martin.

762
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: They do have the fifth round draft choice out of Kansas,

763
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: Austin Booker, the pass rusher had eight sacks in his

764
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: last year with the Jayhawks. But yeah, it gets pretty

765
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: thin after that. That's the second group. So, I mean,

766
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bunch of world beaters, but

767
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 2: Pickens will be a good challenge inside. And Van prank

768
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: Granger's played against Pickens. They pulled in the SEC which

769
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: just goes back to the point that Steve was trying

770
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: to make. He's seen these guys before.

771
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing that's not going to be too big

772
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Speaker 4: for Van prank Granger. The question is it going to

773
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 4: be enough room and Kenny out perform a guy who's

774
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 4: ready to back up Connor McGovern, And it is there

775
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 4: a better option on the roster to back up Connor

776
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: McGovern because the other because we don't know Van prank Granger.

777
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's worked at guard or what

778
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: he has. He's worked at guard at camp, I don't

779
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: know how good he's been. But if there's a guy

780
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: who's been can play center and guard in a combination,

781
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: be ready for either at a higher level than Van

782
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 4: prang Grainger can certainly the center.

783
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean he might be my pick anyway.

784
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: Well, Clap Clap and Van pran Grainger have been cross

785
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: trained at center and guard through camp. That's what Chromer

786
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: likes to do. It doesn't like guys play in any

787
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: one position. But to your point, Van praan Granger played

788
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: center only as a three year starter at Georgia in college.

789
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: So not to say he can't handle guard, he just

790
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: hasn't been there, right, So yeah, I'm and I'm sure

791
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 2: just as much as he's gonna get snaps at center,

792
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: he may get an equal number of them at guard,

793
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: knowing he doesn't have a lot of time on the job.

794
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: There at that spot.

795
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: So I think he and Will Clap will get cross

796
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: trained at both of those positions, like several other players will.

797
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen Lyle Collins at tackle and guard.

798
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 2: We've seen Tyland Grable at tackle and guard, the sixth

799
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: round pick who came in as an offensive tackle.

800
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: So that's what.

801
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: Chromer does, and I and everybody tries to do that

802
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: and has a has a plan, and it's very it's

803
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: really very simple. They get their offensive line, the five

804
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 4: guys they think they're gonna go with and they say, okay,

805
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 4: if he goes down, what's our plan. Yeah, if this

806
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: guy goes down, what's our plan? If this guy goes down?

807
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: All right, what if this guy goes down and his

808
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: backup goes down, then what do we do? They'll go

809
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: like three deep that way, And what it usually means

810
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: is one of the five guys, like if your left

811
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: tackle goes down and Dawkins is out for the game,

812
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: usually it's a guy like Spencer Brown goes from right

813
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 4: to left. It's not just plugging in another guy, although

814
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: that's exactly what they did last year in the Pittsburgh

815
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: game or in the Miami game, the Pittsburgh game in

816
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 4: the playoff game. Yeah, when when When when Dawkins got

817
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: his finger split, that's the only time he ever came out.

818
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 4: He's in Miami. Okay, so he did that, he went in.

819
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's what you do. So it's not

820
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: always okay if guard gets hurt, of guard goes back in.

821
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 4: Usually if a tackle gets hurt, one of the other

822
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 4: the five that are out there goes out and plays it.

823
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: The Bills may be able to get away with not

824
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: doing that with the depth of their lunge.

825
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 2: Whether it's vander Mark who's the swing tackle again this year,

826
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: or if Lyle Collins says anything.

827
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: To say, do you think about it? Collins ain't gonna

828
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be too big for him. But that

829
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: means they'd have to have five guys or three at least,

830
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 4: you'd have to have a full time center to back

831
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 4: up McGovern, a guard to back up either Torrents or Edwards,

832
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: and then a tackle for either side. That's three. You

833
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 4: can dress eight. I think the Bills at some point.

834
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: Didn't they dress nine last year?

835
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 3: At some point?

836
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if they.

837
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: Don't, don't know if you can.

838
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: To dress an extra player if you dress eight offensive

839
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: that was the rule.

840
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: Right, So.

841
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's amazing because when they used to do

842
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: this Browna, they used to do this with like forty

843
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: two guys.

844
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: It was nuts, right, there's nuts.

845
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: Like you have a rash of injuries early in the

846
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: game at one position, you.

847
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: Got a problem, big problem.

848
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

849
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: So let's get back to the phones and to Michael

850
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: in Buffalo. Let me pull them up here. What you

851
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: got first? Michael, Hey, guys, so I had a thought

852
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: after the first couple of.

853
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 6: Shape Shorter or Hambler.

854
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: Really, why not, Mike, We're having trouble hearing you're you're

855
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: you're dropping in and out here. I think you're asking

856
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: about the white outs. Well he was, His phone just

857
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: dropped out completely. He was asking about something with the

858
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: wide outs, and then he was also going to ask

859
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: about adding somebody like Justin Simmons at safety. We did

860
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: see Tennessee sign Quandre Diggs, the former Seattle safety, for

861
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: five million dollar contract on a one year deal, so

862
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: the price came down for him. I'm not so certain

863
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: it's come down for Simmons to the point where he

864
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: would be affordable. And I truly feel like the Bills

865
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: are fine casting their lot with Edwards, rap and then

866
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: Bishop as the young ascending player. I think they felt

867
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: confident in that group along with Hamlin. So I don't

868
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: sense that they feel the need to make a veteran

869
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: investment at the position right now. I'm not going to

870
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: rule anything out because we don't know how long Edwards

871
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: and Bishop are going to be out, and every preseason

872
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: or training camp there is a point of no return where, hey,

873
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: we'd like to see this guy develop, but we got

874
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: to get the starters ready. So they're getting all the

875
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: reps right, because we got to get ready for a

876
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: week one.

877
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 4: You got to get to a point where you understand it,

878
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 4: because out here we're thinking, oh my gosh, the guy's gone.

879
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: He's out. He's not he's out, He's not gone.

880
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: So as what happened with Terrell Bernard last year in

881
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: the preseason, he didn't play like he didn't play any right.

882
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 3: He did not play.

883
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: He didn't take a snap in one of the preseason games.

884
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: But he was on the team, he was going to meetings,

885
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: he was engaged mentally. When he did step back on

886
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: the field, he had three or four weeks of study

887
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: and watching guys that he knew in the room run

888
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: the plays and have conversations about it. You can pick

889
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: up a ton of information and techniques and thought processes

890
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: that way so that when you are ready healthy, you

891
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: go out there and you're you're a different player than

892
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 4: you were two weeks ago, even though you haven't run

893
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: through it. That's what happened to him. Uh to Bernard

894
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: last year at linebacker. It can happen, but you got

895
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: to be smart enough as a player to engage mentally.

896
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 4: When you're hurt, you're still going to all the meetings.

897
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: You're still at practice if you can. But you're watching

898
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: the film of practice with the players who were playing

899
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: in practice and the coaches, and you were listening to

900
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 4: them get coached up and everything they do, what they did,

901
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: why they didn't do this, What were you looking at here?

902
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: What you know? What's going on with this? Read?

903
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: All of that stuff gets under your gets into your

904
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: thought process so you can be ready when you do

905
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: step back on. So even though Bishop and Mike Edwards

906
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 4: are not practicing physically, they're doing an enormous amount of

907
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: work mentally so that when they do get right physically,

908
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: they can step out and they're gonna be in a

909
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: much different place than when they left. So that's and

910
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: it's hard to do. It's exhausting, it's you're just tired

911
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: all the time because your brain's ready to shut off.

912
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: All you do is soak stuff up mentally and you

913
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: can't run through it and it doesn't get ingrained like

914
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: it normally would when you learn things that way.

915
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: So it's.

916
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: It's it's bad to get hurt the way those guys

917
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: did in training camp, but it's not.

918
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: All is not lost by any stretch.

919
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: Well better early than late, a right closer to the season.

920
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: We are going to take a break here, but when

921
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: we come back, we are going to talk a little

922
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: bit about that preseason opener against the Bears, and we're

923
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: gonna do it with the sideline reporter on the Chicago

924
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: Bears radio network. Their radio sideline reporter and former NFL

925
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: fullback Jason McKee is going to join us to give

926
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: us the four to one one on what's going on

927
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: with the Bears and will Saturday, in fact be Caleb

928
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: Williams debut as an NFL quarterback. We'll chat with him

929
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

930
00:49:30,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

931
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

932
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: All right, our number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

933
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker Review. Thanks for joining us here on one

934
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. And we are joined now by Bear's radio

935
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: sideline reporter, former NFL fullback Jason McKee joining us here

936
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: to kind of give us the low down on Buffalo's

937
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: first preseason opponent. Jason, Thanks for joining us. I imagine

938
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: it's been all Caleb Williams all the time. When you're

939
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: the first pick in the draft. You're gonna get all

940
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: the shine. How would you say it has gone for

941
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: him to this point?

942
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it has gone really well.

943
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 11: You know, despite all the rumors in perception that he

944
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 11: was a guy that was Hollywood and selfish and you know,

945
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 11: didn't really care about his teammates, has been the complete opposite.

946
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 11: He's been the consummate teammate and everybody that I've talked

947
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 11: to in the Bears organization has nothing but a high

948
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 11: praise for Kayleb Williams in terms of his interaction with

949
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 11: the players, but not only the players, his interaction with

950
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 11: the staff, the janitors, like just every everybody that works

951
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 11: in that facility.

952
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 8: So it's been great.

953
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 11: He's been a guy that's put his head down, has

954
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 11: gone to work, you know, trying to get better and

955
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 11: developed forces teammates because he knows the expectations and the

956
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 11: pressure that he has been playing quarterback here in Chicago.

957
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 11: But his mindset has been as a rookie, it should be,

958
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 11: you know, to come here and work and earn their

959
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 11: trust and respect of your teammates. And I think he's

960
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 11: so far he's done a good.

961
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 8: Job of that.

962
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: Are we going to see him in Buffalo.

963
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 11: So coach Mattiebnfleu was just status press conference at the

964
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 11: end of practice today and that determination is not going

965
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 11: to be made until a Thursday. But I would say

966
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 11: so early on in camp. You know coach Ebert who

967
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 11: said that he expected or he wanted Caleb Williams to

968
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 11: get around. I think it was forty to sixty five snaps.

969
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 11: So I think, you know this game going to it's

970
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 11: a good defense like the Bills have, would be a

971
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 11: good opportunity to get him some meaningful reps in a

972
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 11: preseason format.

973
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: I know that GM Ryan Poles has done a lot

974
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: to kind of revamp this entire roster, the receiving corps

975
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: in particular. I mean Roman Dunze, Keenan Allen are the

976
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: two biggest additions. How do you think they have I

977
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: guess advanced this receiving corps from competitive to potentially elite.

978
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's been it's been a complete transformation. I mean,

979
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 11: look at the receiving corps. When Ryan polt first took

980
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 11: over the job at GM, it was barren, it was

981
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 11: it was desolate. And to see what he's been able

982
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 11: to do in terms of adding free agents and draft picks,

983
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 11: you know Romo Dunes. You're bringing Keenan Allen and veterans

984
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 11: that so much success in this league, who's a quarterback

985
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 11: friendly receiver because of the way he runs his routes.

986
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 11: It's been it's been phenomenal. So it's a great landing

987
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 11: spot for Ricky quarterback. But it's an even better spot

988
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 11: for Ricky quarterback that's got to have the weight of

989
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 11: to roll on his shoulders. And you know, we talk

990
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 11: about those receivers. But you've got Cole Komett you brought

991
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 11: in Jail what everard he's had some success in the league.

992
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 11: You're bringing DeAndre Swift who could do some things at

993
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 11: that backfield. So now you've got weapons all over all

994
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 11: on the perimeter in which you know, defenses can't just

995
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 11: focus on the DJ Moore. They've got to worry about

996
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 11: other guys that can really, you know, influence the game.

997
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 8: So it's been great to see those guys, you.

998
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 11: Know, throughout training can work together and learn this new

999
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 11: offense because you know, Sam Waldron has brought a new system,

1000
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 11: so he despite you know DJ Moore, it's his second

1001
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 11: year in Chicago, but it's two different offenses. And for

1002
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 11: Caleb just learning the terminology of an NFL offense can

1003
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 11: be complex for any rookie quarterback. So it's been good

1004
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 11: to see those guys develop and grow together in an

1005
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 11: entire new system.

1006
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 4: And if the story wasn't about Caleb Williams, it would

1007
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 4: have been about Roma Dounzay, a guy very picked, very

1008
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 4: high in the draft.

1009
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: How has he looked in camp? What is Caleb Williams?

1010
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 4: What feedback has he given about his relationship with the

1011
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 4: other guy?

1012
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean Rome has looked every bit of you know,

1013
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 11: being the top receiver, I mean obviously picked with the

1014
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 11: ninth overall pick with the Bears, and you can see why.

1015
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 11: He's very big. He's a lot bigger than what I thought.

1016
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 11: He's very fluid, he's very fast, he's got sure hands.

1017
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 11: So it's been great to see those guys, you know,

1018
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 11: develop together, you know, two young guys with high expectations

1019
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 11: on them. You know, Roman has gone about his work,

1020
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 11: you know, on the same way Caleb, as you know,

1021
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 11: put his head down, learn from the Vets. He's got

1022
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 11: a lot of great bets to learn from the DJ

1023
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 11: and Keenan, and he gives those guys respects and respect

1024
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 11: and praise any time he can. But the one thing

1025
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 11: that I will take away from Romo Donze he's sending

1026
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 11: them to the press conference. I think it was the

1027
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 11: first week of training camp. He said, you know what,

1028
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 11: I respect DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, but hey, my

1029
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 11: my goal is to be the best receiver you know,

1030
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 11: on the team, to be the best receiver that I

1031
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 11: can be. And I think we have you know, competitive

1032
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 11: competition or you know good competition like that within a

1033
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 11: room or position group room.

1034
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 8: You know, it makes it's going to elevate the play

1035
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 8: of everybody.

1036
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 11: So I'm excited to see, you know how this receiving

1037
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 11: corp continues to develop throughout the season, and I'm looking

1038
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 11: forward to all the don't make on the football field.

1039
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: Ryan Bates was a player that obviously got his career

1040
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: off the ground here in Buffalo and Ryan Poles had

1041
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: tried to acquire him more than once uh in the past.

1042
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: They finally execute a trade with the Bills to land him.

1043
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: Uh is he kind of penciled in as as the

1044
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: starting center here.

1045
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 3: What's what's Bates's fate here with with the Bears.

1046
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, so with the offensive line, it's it's always an

1047
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 11: interesting dynamic here in Chicago. You know, you look back

1048
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 11: to last year, there was always an offensive line carousel.

1049
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 11: You know, rarely do we have all five starters, you know,

1050
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 11: starting every game together. And you look at Ryan Bates

1051
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 11: has been that way. He's been at he's been at center,

1052
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 11: he's been at right guard. You know, Bears starting right guard.

1053
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 11: Nate Davis has been out of the lineup, and coach

1054
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 11: Eriflu has even said today and this press conference, you say, hey,

1055
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 11: you know what people, people will say that you shouldn't

1056
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 11: lose your job because of injury, but you know, uh,

1057
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 11: you know, Steve know we played in this league for

1058
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 11: a long time. When the injuries happened, it presents an

1059
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 11: opportunity for somebody behind you. So it's it's created an

1060
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 11: opportunity for Ryan Bates to go into right guard. Another

1061
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 11: phrase that they brought in Coleman Shelton is beginning a

1062
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 11: lot of snaps at center. So it's created a situation

1063
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 11: to where you know, there's been different pieces moved on

1064
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 11: that offensive line and different guys you know, in the

1065
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 11: lineup that offensive line because hey, throughout the season, injuries happen,

1066
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 11: and we don't want these injuries to happen. But if

1067
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 11: you get an opportunity to get guys reps at a

1068
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 11: different position early on in camp, well then if you

1069
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 11: encounter that situation throughout the season, they're going to be

1070
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 11: more familiar with that. So, you know, we've seen Ryan

1071
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 11: Bates at center, we've seen him at right guard, so

1072
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 11: it's been it's been an interesting dynamic. So I'm not

1073
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 11: going to say he's been penciled at as a starter

1074
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 11: early on in camp. Him and Colman Shelton. Coleman Shelton,

1075
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 11: we're competing for that job. You know, Ryan Bates was

1076
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 11: started at center one day, Coleman Sheldon would start the next.

1077
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 11: So I think it is a legit competition at center.

1078
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 11: But don't be surprised if Ryan Bates ends up being

1079
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 11: the starting right guard just because of the unavailability of

1080
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 11: Nate Davis.

1081
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 4: What was the feedback kind of post game analysis of

1082
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 4: how the Bears Texans game went there in the Hall

1083
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: of Fame game that he had the new kickoff rule.

1084
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 4: Everybody was really anticipating that you come out with a

1085
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 4: four point win. Obviously nobody's gonna care in a week

1086
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 4: or two, but you know, what was the feed how

1087
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 4: did the team perceive itself that you see.

1088
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 11: I think the overall you know, consensus of that game was,

1089
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 11: you know, guys got opportunity to get live reps against

1090
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 11: somebody else in a different colored jersey.

1091
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 8: And you know, the game was cut short due to

1092
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 8: the inclement weather in the area.

1093
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Speaker 11: So you know, there was a lot of guys that

1094
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 11: you know, that we wanted to see that didn't really

1095
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 11: get reps because the game was cut pretty much going

1096
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 11: into the third quarter.

1097
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 8: But some of the guys that we did see make plays.

1098
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 11: A guy who's kind of a dark horse in the

1099
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 11: receiver room is Colin Johnson. You know, a big receiveres

1100
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 11: about six six and twenty pounds, did very well, you know,

1101
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 11: competing for for fifty to fifty balls.

1102
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 8: He came up to some great catches.

1103
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 11: And you look at another guy trying to make make

1104
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 11: his mark on his roster with Brett Rippon, who got

1105
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 11: the majority of the snaps at quarter back, who played

1106
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 11: really well through two touchdown passes to Colin Johnson, he

1107
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 11: threw another one to our tied end. So it's been

1108
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 11: good to see those guys get reps, and I'm looking

1109
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 11: forward to seeing more guys get reps.

1110
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 8: You know, we didn't see a guy in the Bayless.

1111
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 11: Jones who's who's you know, had a mixed bag in

1112
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 11: terms of his career here in Chicago, guy who they said, hey,

1113
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 11: this week, you know, we're going to experiment, experiment with

1114
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 11: him at running back. So you don't be surprised if

1115
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 11: you see at Bayless Jones, you know, out there in

1116
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 11: Buffalo running back this week in the preseason game. So

1117
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 11: there's a lot of guys that need reps that we

1118
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 11: haven't seen just because that game was cut short. And

1119
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 11: I think we'll start seeing a lot of those guys

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 11: get some valuable reps this week against Buffalo.

1121
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: All right, So Jason, what do you feel are the

1122
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: realistic expectations among fans for this club, because, as we've said,

1123
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, GM Ryan Poles has really kind of loaded

1124
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: this roster with proven talent as well as exciting young talent.

1125
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: But all those puzzle pieces still have to be fit together.

1126
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: And you know, Green Bay is still a pretty formidable opponent.

1127
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: Detroit goes all the way to the NFC title game

1128
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: last year, So what do Bears fans expect? And then

1129
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: what do you believe is realistic with all that has

1130
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: with all the new pieces that have to be fit

1131
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 2: together here.

1132
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1133
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, with such a strong fan base

1134
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 11: that we have here in Chicago, Bears fans expect us

1135
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 11: to win the Super Bowl every single year. So we're

1136
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 11: always overly optimistic in the offseason, you know, as they

1137
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 11: should be, you know, having a strong fan base. But

1138
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 11: when you look at our division and like you mentioned

1139
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 11: Green Bay Detroit, Detroit was the cream of the crop

1140
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 11: last year and those teams, you know, they're bringing back

1141
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 11: a strong roster this year. So you know, order Matt

1142
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 11: to have an automatic bids to playoffs, you got to

1143
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 11: win your division. And right now, and I will say,

1144
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 11: we're the third best team and our division, you know,

1145
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 11: slightly ahead of the Vikings if you look at it

1146
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 11: on paper, and you know, bringing so many top quality

1147
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 11: free agents in to our organization, like Ryan Polls did,

1148
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 11: you still have to try to figure out how this

1149
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 11: thing is going to work. You know, it's a blessing

1150
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 11: to have so many weapons on offense, but there's only

1151
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 11: one football to go around. You know, right now, everything's

1152
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 11: is good. It's like a you know, a new marriage.

1153
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 11: Everything is great, but when things start hitting the fan,

1154
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 11: you know, how are these personalities going to showcase throughout

1155
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 11: the season. You know, how is this team going to

1156
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 11: respond to adversity? What is this team's identity? So you know,

1157
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 11: on paper, you can sit there when you go through

1158
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 11: the schedule, you can say, hey, you know what, this

1159
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 11: can be a nine or ten wins, a nine or

1160
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 11: ten win team. But you know, there's there's some tough opponents,

1161
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 11: especially the back half of the season, when you're playing

1162
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 11: division opponent division opponent one right after the other.

1163
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Speaker 8: It's going to be tough with this basual organization.

1164
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 11: But I think, you know, the good thing that we

1165
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 11: have is, you know, we're bringing back a solid defense.

1166
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 11: You know, we've added some pieces on defense. You know, guys,

1167
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 11: young guys who played a lot of last year. It's

1168
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 11: going to be their second year in the defense. You know,

1169
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 11: coach Mattieverflu's is calling the defense. So that's one side

1170
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 11: of the ball that was strong last year and that's

1171
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 11: not going to change. And as we know, a quarterback's

1172
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 11: best friend can be a solid defense. So you know,

1173
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 11: it's going to be interesting to see how this thing

1174
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 11: plays out throughout the season.

1175
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Speaker 4: Do you think this what is the identity going to be?

1176
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: Is this defense going to be good enough to carry

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01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: along on offense led by a young quarterback. Do you

1178
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: think Caylen Williams can step up and help help these

1179
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 4: guys score points and aid to defense. What do you

1180
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: think the identity or the look of this team is

1181
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 4: going to be early in the early going of the season.

1182
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think this defense can be really great. I

1183
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 11: really think they're going to pick up where they left off.

1184
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 11: You know, they've added some pieces. But when you look

1185
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 11: at his defense, you look at the DNA of this

1186
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 11: defense or the structure of this defense, you know, you've

1187
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 11: got blue chip players at every level of the defense.

1188
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 11: You know, you look at the defensive line, You've got

1189
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 11: Montes Swett, You've got to you know, all pro caliber

1190
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 11: linebackers and TJ.

1191
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 8: T J. Edwards and Tremaine Edmonds.

1192
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 11: And then you look on the back and you've got

1193
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 11: Jalen Johnson who was one of the top corners in

1194
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 11: the league last year. And you also have two ascending

1195
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 11: players and uh Jakwan Brisker and Kyler Gordon. So you know, defensively,

1196
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 11: I think this this defense will continue to play fast.

1197
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 11: They're going to be more comfortable in the system, and

1198
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 11: they will continue to generate takeaways, which which is a

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Speaker 11: quarterback's best friend because it's going to give this offense

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01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 11: and opportunity to be on the field. I think this

1201
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 11: defense creates some situations that give our offense to be

1202
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 11: on a short field to put points on the board.

1203
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 11: And with the young quarterback like that with Caleb, the

1204
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 11: one thing you want to do is you want to

1205
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 11: get them comfortable early. You know, you want to get

1206
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 11: his confidence, you know, brewing high and having the pieces

1207
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 11: that we have. A veteran, you know, friendly quarterback like

1208
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 11: Keenan Allen can do things like that. You know, having

1209
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 11: a quarterback friendly tight end like Cole Comit, you can

1210
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 11: do those things. But the biggest question will be the

1211
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 11: offensive line. You know, can they stay healthy? You know,

1212
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 11: can there be cohesion is among that unit to protect

1213
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 11: the young quarterback. So I think that is the biggest

1214
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 11: question mark on this team right now.

1215
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you, Jason, And if you

1216
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 2: don't know the details, that's totally fine. I just figured

1217
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: i'd ask it anyway. The new stadium plans there in Chicago.

1218
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: Last year at this time, they're talking about using that

1219
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: racetrack land to build a new stadium. Then other people like, oh,

1220
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: we got to have a downtown it can't be all

1221
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: the way out there.

1222
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: Uh.

1223
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: Where where are things right now with a new stadium

1224
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: plan for the Bears?

1225
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: Are we no? Where?

1226
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: Are we no further than we were last year at

1227
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: this time?

1228
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think.

1229
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 11: You know, Kevin Warren came on, he had a press

1230
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 11: conference last week and they were talking about the stadium plan.

1231
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 11: So right now, I think it's I think it's still

1232
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 11: up in the air, you know. I know Kevin Warren

1233
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 11: is a big advocate of having this stadium downtown, having

1234
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 11: this stadium on the lake front. But I know the

1235
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 11: Bears have They just purchased a great piece of land

1236
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 11: over at Arlington, Arlington Park Racetrack. That's like over three

1237
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 11: hundred and twenty acres of land in which you know,

1238
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 11: they feel could be feasible to have a stadium built there.

1239
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 8: So I think it's still up in the air. You know,

1240
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 8: Kevin Warren has done it.

1241
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 11: He's been a part of this situation before during his

1242
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 11: time up there in Minnesota, so new it remains to

1243
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 11: be seen, but I think he's really pushing to have

1244
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 11: this stadium downtown on the lake front.

1245
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 4: Jason, thanks for taking some times and spending some time

1246
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: with us. We'll look forward to seeing you here in

1247
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: Buffalo this weekend.

1248
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 8: Well sounds good, guys, Thanks for having me looking forward

1249
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 8: to it.

1250
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time. That's Jason McKee, Bill's or Bears

1251
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 2: Radio sideline reporter joining us here and kind of giving

1252
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: the low down on how things have unfolded in Bear's

1253
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: training camp as they are the Bill's preseason opening game opponent.

1254
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people say what he said

1255
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: about Roma Dounsay. Now, let's not forget Jason McKee is

1256
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: a former NFL fullback. Okay, he played at about two

1257
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: thirty eight, two forty, and he said, I didn't realize

1258
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: how big Roma Dunsay was until I stood next to him.

1259
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 3: And that's not the first person I've heard say that.

1260
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: I mean, we can only watch him on TV, and

1261
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: we can look at his height and weight, but there

1262
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: are some guys that even if you see their height

1263
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: and weight, once you get next to him, you're like, oh,

1264
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: he's a lot bigger than I thought.

1265
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and Donsay seems to be one of those guys.

1266
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 4: He's he had, he put together a really nice career

1267
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: at in Washington, and he was playing with a guy

1268
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 4: that got drafted as a quarterback too, so he saw

1269
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: a lot of footballs and some quality throws. It'll be

1270
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 4: interesting to see. But he was one of those top

1271
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: three guys, yeah, in that draft that got taken in

1272
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 4: you know, ninth overall. Well, he's a pretty good player

1273
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: no matter what. So I think it's interesting that the

1274
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: Bears are taking it. Looks to me like if you're

1275
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 4: going to try and make comparisons about other teams who

1276
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 4: have built it. Yeah, Cincinnati, you get the quarterback. The

1277
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 4: Bears got Caleb Williams. Cincinnati got Joe Burrow. But they

1278
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 4: give the guy weapons early, not an offensive line early,

1279
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 4: they give him weapons early. Mike Williams, Doonsay, and the

1280
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 4: rest of those guys. J Moore, they got some guys

1281
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 4: over there, So that'll be interesting to see if it

1282
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 4: works for Caleb Williams the way it worked for Joe

1283
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 4: Burrow in Cincinnati.

1284
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: I i'm i'm I can't believe that Eberflus is not

1285
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: going to play Caleb Williams on Saturday. He did not

1286
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: play him in the Hall of Fame game. But you

1287
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: got to get the guy ready if he's going to

1288
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: be your starter. You can't tell me they're going with

1289
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: Tyson Baigen as their starting quarterback this year.

1290
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Caleb Williams.

1291
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: He's got to get live snaps.

1292
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 3: I can't.

1293
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: He's definitely got to play this week. I mean maybe

1294
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: he doesn't play a lot, but my god, he's got

1295
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: to get about a quarter of action at least.

1296
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: It would be really unusual if Caleb Williams didn't see

1297
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: the field in the preseason.

1298
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 3: Right, Like, they gotta get him ready.

1299
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: Unless the kid is super impressive.

1300
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh in camp you mean yeah, yeah.

1301
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Speaker 1: Unless he's kill something different. Yeah, unless he's killing it.

1302
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: I think you.

1303
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: Gotta play him.

1304
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 3: I mean you can't.

1305
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna be your starting quarterback. He's got to play

1306
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: right now.

1307
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 4: I kind of agree with you. I'm I mean, certainly

1308
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 4: they don't. They're not obligated too. I mean, let's go

1309
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 4: to the regular season. I don't want to get the

1310
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 4: kid twisted ankle, I get all.

1311
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: That, But.

1312
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 4: Just rolling him out there on week one, day one,

1313
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: with no preseason even like doing it to.

1314
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: Be I think that's a big ask.

1315
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1316
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: And and the other thing too, is we heard, uh

1317
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: Jason McKee mentioned this, he said, the schedule gets considerably

1318
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: more difficult down the backstretch, so I'm just taking a

1319
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: quick look at it. So they got to play week

1320
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: one Tennessee, Week two at Houston, Week three at Indy.

1321
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: So they're basically playing the whole AFC South with the

1322
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: exception of Jacksonville in the first three weeks. Then they're

1323
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: home against the ramp. They don't play a division game

1324
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: their first division game. Oh my gosh, it's week eleven. Really,

1325
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: they don't play a division game until mid November.

1326
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: What seriously?

1327
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: They play the entire AFC South before they play a

1328
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: division game. They play an entire other division before they

1329
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: play anyone in their own division.

1330
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: That is really quirky.

1331
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 4: They play they play the Packers, then the Vikings, then

1332
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 4: the All in succession, and then the Niners in between that,

1333
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: then the Viking, these Lions, Seahawks, Packers, Yeah, holy cats,

1334
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: their last eight or against their division division.

1335
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I have ever seen that.

1336
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: I haven't either.

1337
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: That is highly unusual, unusual.

1338
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal, and.

1339
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: It kind of makes you feel like while they were

1340
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: putting all the schedules together, somebody forgot to put the

1341
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: Bears schedule together, and they're like, right, holy cow, we

1342
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: forgot the Bears. Where can we wedge this game?

1343
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh we can.

1344
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: Oh, geez, a lot of division games at the back.

1345
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: Forget it. It's the last team put it to bed. Yes,

1346
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: six division games in.

1347
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: The last eight weeks.

1348
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 4: Bye week, that is nuts, bye week a week seven.

1349
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 4: But they go, you know, they get a it's not

1350
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 4: bad coming out of it.

1351
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: You got the Titans, the Colts, the Panthers, the Jags.

1352
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: They got the young first. They got the young quarterback

1353
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 2: schedule because they got a rookie quarterback of their own, will.

1354
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 3: Play Will Levis, c J. Stroud and Anthony Richardson.

1355
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: You get Stafford, Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence is probably a

1356
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: young VET at this point. Jaden Daniels, Drake May I mean,

1357
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: holy cow, maybe JJ McCarthy by week twelve in Minnesota.

1358
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 1: Eh wow, Well that's.

1359
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 4: What you know when you when you stink, you get

1360
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 4: an easy schedule that means young quarterbacks and bad teams,

1361
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 4: bad defenses.

1362
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1363
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: From the year before anyway, that.

1364
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: That might be the most unusual schedule I've seen in

1365
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: a while. Six division games in the last eight weeks.

1366
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 3: That is something, man, you.

1367
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 4: Saw all the you saw the you know the court

1368
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 4: you just mentioned all their quarterbacks. The Bill's quarterbacks are

1369
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 4: a little different.

1370
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 3: It's oh that they face.

1371
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 4: Kyler, Murray, Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Lamar Jackson, c J. Stroud,

1372
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.

1373
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we play the AFC Alph, and so do

1374
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: the Bears.

1375
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, Will Levis, seahawkss is Uh, Genos Smith to again,

1376
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson, Pat Mahomes, mister.

1377
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: Irrelevant, Brock Purdy, Stafford Uh, Jared.

1378
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 4: Goff And then it's probably Drake May, probably Drake May

1379
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 4: by that point in time, and the then Jets Aaron

1380
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 4: Rodgers and Drake May again we have It's interesting we

1381
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 4: have three division games at the end of the season,

1382
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: last three games in a row, preceded by the Lions,

1383
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: Rams and Niners.

1384
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: Gout cheap.

1385
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: But we're done playing the Dolphins before mid season. We

1386
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 2: play him twice in the first seven weeks.

1387
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's probably good for the Dolphins.

1388
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't like playing us in December, no matter where.

1389
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't want to come up here. Yeah, the

1390
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 4: Dolphins play We played down there November third, after playing

1391
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 4: him in Week two.

1392
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: No, we played down there in week two.

1393
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Night, that's right. They play up here in

1394
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: November November third, just hardly November November third, probably get

1395
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 4: a snow member. Snow and the snowman up here.

1396
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: Is that what you're wishing for?

1397
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't care.

1398
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: They're irrelevant to me.

1399
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 8: Uh.

1400
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to ask him about Tremaine Edmonds.

1401
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: You know another form of Bill who's there? There is

1402
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: a third former Bill on the roster currently for the Bears.

1403
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: It's Tommy Sweeney, the tight end. He is there a

1404
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: little bit further down the depth chart, but he's on

1405
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: the training camp rosters, so probably see him as well.

1406
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: Three players all.

1407
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: From the McDermott era on the Bears. Now I was

1408
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: I found it. I found it a little strange that,

1409
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: you know, the Bears. I don't say they moved heaven

1410
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 2: and earth, but they tried more than once to get

1411
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Bates on their roster. If you remember a couple

1412
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: of years ago, when Bates was a restricted free agent,

1413
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 2: they signed him to an offer sheet and the Bills

1414
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: matched it to keep him.

1415
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: And then the.

1416
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,879
Speaker 2: Next offseason, Ryan Poles comes calling and they execute a trade,

1417
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: believe it was for a fifth round draft choice and

1418
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: they acquired Bates via trade from the Bills, who and

1419
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:24,919
Speaker 2: he's on an affordable contract.

1420
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 3: It was like a four year.

1421
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: Well they put the contract together that ended up, you know,

1422
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: being the one that the Bill's paid. Now they're paying

1423
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: that contract. So I was thinking, you know, you went

1424
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: through all this effort to get him, and he's in

1425
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: a full blown competition with Coleman Shelton, Like he's not

1426
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: even a bonafide starter, Like you thought that much of

1427
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: him that you traded for him, but he's not a

1428
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: starter for you, Like, I don't know. That strike struck

1429
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: me as a little strange. I don't know, maybe I'm

1430
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 2: overthinking it, but Coleman Shelton used to be with the

1431
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: Rams and had started some games there, So I don't know.

1432
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: I just I found that interesting. They tried more than

1433
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: once to get Baits, they finally get Baits, and he's

1434
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: in a competition to start he's not and you can't

1435
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 2: mark him down in ink with the starting lineup, whether

1436
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: it's at guard or center. So I don't know what

1437
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: to make of that. It just struck me as strange

1438
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: because you can go to all that trouble again. I'm like,

1439
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: put them in your lineup?

1440
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 3: Man, what are you doing?

1441
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree with you. I agree. Fifth round draft

1442
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: pick Brandon Bean was jumping at that.

1443
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and look at the fifth round draft picks

1444
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: this year, Cedric Van Praan Granger, Javon Solomon.

1445
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: Now you know what I liked those guys, Man, Van

1446
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 1: Praank Granger.

1447
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 4: I mean, he he's a you might he's a dude.

1448
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: You may have upgraded in the long run at center,

1449
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We got to take a

1450
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: break here, but we'll be back with more, including the

1451
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,799
Speaker 2: tweet sheets as we're asking you who he is zeroing

1452
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: in on player wise in the preseason opener against Chicago.

1453
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: It's one Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Hell. This

1454
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 2: is Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here, I want

1455
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. There is

1456
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: an update from NFL Networks Mike Gharafolo on Brandon Ayuk.

1457
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: He said he currently remains a member of the forty

1458
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: nine ers, with the Steelers, Browns, and Patriots among the

1459
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: teams in the mix. I wouldn't rule any of them

1460
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 2: out at this point. It was thought earlier that the

1461
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,440
Speaker 2: Steelers had fallen out of the race to acquire Brandon Ayuk.

1462
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: According to Gharafolo, that is not the case. And just

1463
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: so everybody knows, Ayuk does not have a no trade clause,

1464
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: but he will be given plenty of say in what

1465
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: team he does end up going to. I know we

1466
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: were talking about this around the office this morning on

1467
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 2: our text loop ten years ago. If the Steelers are

1468
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: Patriots are in the mix, it's a no brainer, like

1469
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: you're going to one of those teams immediately. Now it's

1470
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 2: a little trick here.

1471
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, now it's not quite so enticing, but nevertheless, either

1472
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 4: that Niners have one less really good player on their team.

1473
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, what's coming back?

1474
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 4: Amari rumored Amari Cooper's on the table for the Browns.

1475
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: He's the other way.

1476
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, had to go the other way.

1477
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 6: Now.

1478
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of player Mariy Cooper is

1479
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: these days, but certainly's.

1480
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: Pretty damn good.

1481
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's twenty nine, you can, yeah, but he's only

1482
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 4: you only get him for one year as well, unless

1483
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 4: you extend him.

1484
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting.

1485
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 4: But I looks like he's gonna be in a position where, yeah,

1486
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 4: he actually forced the Niners to trade him.

1487
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're we're watching highlights from what I if

1488
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: I remember right. This was the Week one game between

1489
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers and Niners last year, and the Niners came

1490
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: into Pittsburgh and just whooped him. I think it was

1491
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 2: thirty five to seven, thirty five nothing, It was something

1492
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, they smoked him in Week one.

1493
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 4: Well, and the Steelers obviously they didn't know their offense

1494
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 4: was gonna be bad.

1495
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 3: They have to have an idea, yeah, they know it

1496
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna learn.

1497
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 4: Remember the guy went out and that they thought, okay,

1498
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett, you're the guy.

1499
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1500
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 4: And he was getting some hype and they said, yeah,

1501
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 4: I love the way he's throw and doing all that,

1502
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 4: and then you know, it just didn't never never materialized.

1503
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1504
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: And then the craziest thing about that whole thing was,

1505
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,799
Speaker 2: you know, they they make a trade for Russell Wilson,

1506
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 2: and you know, I think they were internally thinking, all right, well,

1507
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: you know, Pickett can kind of take it back seat,

1508
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: learn from this guy for a year or whatever whatever.

1509
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: And Pickett's like, yeah, I want out, get me out

1510
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: of here. So that was very.

1511
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 3: Quickly the end of that.

1512
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: It was kind of a.

1513
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: It was a little acrimonious. Yeah, So glad we don't

1514
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 3: have that problem. I'll say it.

1515
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: I've said it once, I've said it many times. Glad

1516
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: we don't have that problem.

1517
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 1: You get.

1518
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 4: You once you're in that once you're looking for that

1519
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: guy like the Bills were for seventeen years. You're obsessed

1520
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 4: with getting it and having them double down this year

1521
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 4: on quarterbacks with fields and russ. I mean, it's just

1522
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,440
Speaker 4: a signal that's somebody. They gotta find somebody.

1523
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 8: Ye.

1524
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 4: John Elwie was doing it in Denver, forever, trying to

1525
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 4: find a guy, drafting guys and.

1526
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: Then he passed on Josh. I mean, what are you doing, dude?

1527
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 4: And you know you're just totally immersed in the quarterback hunt.

1528
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your first and only obsession.

1529
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

1530
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: Let's crack open the tweet sheet, which is brought to

1531
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 2: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

1532
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills.

1533
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: Which player are you zeroing in on?

1534
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: During Saturday's preseason opener against the Bears, Connor says Zach Davidson.

1535
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: I really want to see if he can lock in

1536
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: the third tight end spot. His size and playmaking ability

1537
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 2: so far in camp has me very excited. I know

1538
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 2: Knox and Kincaid will be the focal point, but he

1539
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: provides Joe Brady with options, especially in the red zone.

1540
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: We talked about this on the show yesterday because Davidson

1541
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 2: had another good day yesterday. He was outstanding and maybe

1542
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: the offensive player of the game in the blue and

1543
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: Red practice, and he's really making a case for himself

1544
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: to be on the fifty three man roster. The Chiefs

1545
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 2: used a lot of thirteen personnel last year, more than

1546
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: any other team in football, and I'm not saying you

1547
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: have to go that route, but it's an option as

1548
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: a personnel grouping. If Davidson's on your roster this year.

1549
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 4: Well certainly you've got an example of a pretty successful

1550
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 4: team of using it. But yeah, that I think his

1551
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 4: skill set carving out a third tight end spot is huge,

1552
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 4: particularly given what he's good at, which is running routes

1553
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 4: and catching the ball like a Kincaid is.

1554
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: Plus he's pretty fast for it. He's a six to

1555
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: seven guy who doesn't have to really have.

1556
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: Any run as well. He does not run gangly at all.

1557
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, certainly I'm i'd be interested in what that's good.

1558
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 4: That's a good one. We've been talking about Zach Davidson

1559
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 4: ever since the Blue and Red scrimmage because of the

1560
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 4: game that he had there. So we'll see if that

1561
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 4: can continue, if you can put stack days on top

1562
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 4: of each other.

1563
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: Nick on the Tweets Sheet says Dorian Williams is a

1564
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: thumper against the run, but all reports from camp indicate

1565
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: that he continues to have difficulty in coverage having a

1566
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: feel for coverage. Is a reliant upon instinct, more so

1567
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: in his own scheme. So I'm hoping that instincts can

1568
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 2: be acquired and not solely inherited. Where do you kind

1569
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 2: of come down on that, Steve got instincts, instincts acquired

1570
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: or born?

1571
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 3: I don't.

1572
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: I think you're kind of born. Yeah, something you learn

1573
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: as a top.

1574
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: I think you can certainly learn the nuances of a

1575
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: defense with more time in it, and that can make

1576
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 2: you a quicker reactionary player because you've seen plays unfold

1577
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: against the play call you're executing time and time again.

1578
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: And what Dorian Williams does is seeball get ball. That

1579
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: is the kind of player he is, and he is

1580
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: super athletic so he's been very effective doing that at

1581
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: the college level at Tulane and then even late last

1582
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: season as a rookie for the Bills. That doesn't mean

1583
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: he can't become a better player or sniff out plays sooner.

1584
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 2: But those god given instincts that like Milano and Bernard have,

1585
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: I think he either have them or you don't.

1586
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 4: There's two different sets of instincts. One, he's got that

1587
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 4: instinctive thing of finding he'll go chase the ball. He

1588
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 4: anticipates that. He's good at tracking it and all that.

1589
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 4: What he's not good at that Bernard and Milana are

1590
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 4: so good at is playing in space when you know

1591
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 4: where the ball is, but you're keeping the ball from

1592
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:58,440
Speaker 4: going somewhere else by throw. Dropping into coverage.

1593
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: Is not.

1594
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: Natural, you know, when you're playing in a game.

1595
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: Well, he was not used that way or too late.

1596
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: He was used.

1597
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: He was used in drive, not reverse.

1598
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. You got to learn to run backwards

1599
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 4: and feel the secondary where you're supposed to be and

1600
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 4: react to what's inside that zone. It's a lot different

1601
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 4: than just going to getting the ball. That's what I

1602
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 4: think has you know, kept him off the field. If anything,

1603
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 4: if there's any one thing, and it's being a completely

1604
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 4: different guy.

1605
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say he has struggled

1606
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: in coverage. That seems a little strong. I think his

1607
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: performance in the preseason will tell us a lot more

1608
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: because I thought, I thought he has played better than

1609
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 2: he did in last year's camp, which you would expect

1610
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: based on a year of experience. And I don't really

1611
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 2: know if we can make an assessment on whether or

1612
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: not his coverage skills have improved until we see them

1613
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: in a live game. And I anticipate he's gonna get

1614
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: a lot of playing time.

1615
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 4: It takes, you know, it takes a different mindset not

1616
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 4: to chase the ball, to drop back and do something

1617
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 4: other than just chase the ball down. Yeah, some guys

1618
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 4: are gifted with it, some guys are not. Let's see,

1619
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 4: but you can get better at everything.

1620
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: Luke on the tweet sheet.

1621
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: In terms of the player he is zeroing in on

1622
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: for Saturday's preseason opener, says Tyrell Shavers. I'm excited to

1623
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: see him play with how good of a camp he's had.

1624
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon eager to see him in action after some

1625
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,839
Speaker 2: of the hype he has had since he was drafted

1626
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: Ray Davis to see if he could push for a

1627
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: larger role in the offense. Ray Davis has to hold

1628
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: on to the football. He's got a couple of fumbles,

1629
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 2: one in camp at Fisher, one last Friday when he

1630
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: got it punched out after a long run. And we

1631
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 2: all know how much coach McDermott emphasizes ball security, So

1632
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: that's the thing. But with Ty Johnson sideline with a

1633
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: hamstring injury, the opportunity is there, like, you better make

1634
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: the most of it now before Ty Johnson comes back

1635
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: from injury.

1636
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 4: These reps are really valuable, and so's the opportunity. It's

1637
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 4: fortunate for Ray Davis when somebody else goes down ahead

1638
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 4: of him, because he gets moved up and he'll take

1639
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 4: more important reps with better players around him. And it's

1640
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 4: easier to look like a good football player when you've

1641
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 4: got a lot of really good football players around you

1642
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 4: on your side of the ball. So it's it'll be

1643
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 4: interesting to see if he can take advantage of this.

1644
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 1: But you're right.

1645
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: What happens is, you know, a guy breaks loose and

1646
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: runs down there, nobody's tackling stuff, so he kind of

1647
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 4: lets up a little bit and somebody comes out and

1648
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 4: the DB's punched the ball out. It looks bad. It

1649
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 4: looks bad, and man, o, man, you cannot put the

1650
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 4: ball on the ground. Remember how long it took James

1651
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 4: Cook to get back on the field when he fumbled

1652
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 4: his first snap as a pro against LA.

1653
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: He didn't come back till like the fourth quarter.

1654
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then then even then he never you know,

1655
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 4: he just didn't get They set him back like three weeks,

1656
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 4: you know, before he started taking reps regularly in a game.

1657
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 2: There is a reason why coach McDermott has a golden

1658
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: football sitting on a pedestal in a glass case in

1659
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 2: the locker room. It is to remind them on how

1660
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: important it is to take care of the ball and

1661
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: how valuable it is. Uh Steven on the tweets sheet

1662
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: says Ray Davis and Coleman because they're both rookies who

1663
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: can immediately old on. I got an email coming in

1664
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 2: here blocking me reading this Ray Davis and Coleman, because

1665
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 2: they're both rookies who can immediately make an impact on

1666
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: the offense come week one.

1667
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: I I if you ask me.

1668
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: To take a guess as to who would factor in

1669
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 2: first I think it's going to be Coleman. He's Yeah,

1670
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 2: he has made plays every single day in camp. It

1671
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who is matched up against him in one

1672
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 2: on ones in t he is making a noticeable play

1673
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 2: every single day.

1674
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Coleman's an NFL player. I mean, there's just no

1675
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 4: two ways about it. He's big, range, he runs well,

1676
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: catches it well. The physical wide receiver, he's just he's

1677
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 4: physically an NFL player where he is between his ears.

1678
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 4: We're going to find out. And I think it's pretty good.

1679
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 4: I do too, So he's got a chance to be

1680
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 4: very good in this league. And we'll start seeing it soon,

1681
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: I think. But yes, it does bear watching at this

1682
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 4: point of his career of a young career. Let's see

1683
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 4: because it looks good.

1684
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, High football IQ Johnny says, I'm going to be

1685
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 2: paying attention to both coordinators, seeing how they call the

1686
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: game with the new players, excited to watch how some

1687
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: of the new additions are adjusting to the scheme. I

1688
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 2: would say, do that with a grain of salt, Johnny,

1689
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 2: because you know you're not going to see everything that

1690
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: they would like to utilize come the regular season. It's

1691
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: going to be down because they're not playing any cards

1692
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: in games that ultimately do not count. So don't pay.

1693
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is, don't pass judgment based

1694
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: on what you see in the preseason. Yeah, because it's

1695
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 2: gonna look different considerably.

1696
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 4: Don't ask, Yeah, don't ask to get you know, race

1697
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: car results from a Chevy or Honda.

1698
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: Game plan.

1699
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 2: So right, Uh, gotta step aside here for a quick

1700
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: break when we come back. Some final thoughts on the

1701
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: tweet sheet in terms of the player you are zeroing

1702
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 2: in on for Saturday's preseason opener here next on one

1703
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: Bill's Live stay.

1704
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: With us knew.

1705
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: This season, all Buffet Bill's parking lots will require a

1706
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 2: parking pass. This pass must be purchased in advance of

1707
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: game day to enter those parking lots. There will be

1708
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: no day of game cash or credit card transactions to

1709
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: purchase parking in the Bills lots, so make sure to

1710
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: get your parking pass in advance. Inventory is limited, but

1711
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: visit Buffalo bills dot com slash parking to get single

1712
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: parking passes.

1713
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 3: For all home games. Do it, and do it now.

1714
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Just get on the ball so you're ready for preseason

1715
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: and the regular season. Back to the tweets Sheet for

1716
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: some final thoughts in terms of the player you are

1717
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 2: zeroing in on in Saturday's preseason opener, and Johnny says, oh, no,

1718
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: he's doing the coordinators We talked about him already. Harold says,

1719
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 2: Rap and Hamlin are they ready to replace Poyer and Hide?

1720
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: Those are the two that are probably going to start

1721
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: on Saturday in light of the injuries to Bishop and

1722
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 2: to Edwards. So we'll find out sooner other than later.

1723
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly they're not going to, you know, have the

1724
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 4: full menu of defenses and checks and all that, and

1725
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be one of those games where you're only.

1726
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: Going to run a few looks.

1727
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're gonna get a chance to see him

1728
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 4: out there. We've seen Damar before though, I mean yeah, and.

1729
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 3: We saw a rap in a third safety rap. Yeah.

1730
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, those this isn't going to be new for them.

1731
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1732
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: Andrew on the tweets sheet says, my focus is going

1733
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: to be on the center. Connor McGovern. I know he's

1734
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: played center before. Not sure if he played it in

1735
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: the NFL, but I know he's played it, so I'd

1736
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: like to see the chemistry between him and Josh Allen. Yeah,

1737
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 2: we looked it up. He's played one hundred career snaps

1738
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: in the NFL at the center position. Everything else has

1739
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: been at guard in his previous four years.

1740
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 3: So h but he played it.

1741
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 4: Played a more center this preseason and practice and training

1742
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 4: camp than he has in his entire pro career.

1743
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: For sure.

1744
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he said it's been going good. We talked

1745
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: to him yesterday after practice. H jj LK says, Elam.

1746
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: I want to see all the progress people are talking

1747
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: about Davidson. Can he beat out Morris o line depth?

1748
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: And then Gable Clayton, the two guys who have never

1749
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: played football.

1750
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 3: Are they progressing?

1751
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Clayton's been out with an injury and Gable is

1752
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: got an uphill climb.

1753
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: We'll see, yeah, but it's deep.

1754
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: They'll get opportunities. That's it for us today. We're back

1755
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 2: out of training camp tomorrow. If you're going out, be

1756
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: sure to say hi. We'll see at one o'clock