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Speaker 2: coming up today. I know the NBA Playoffs are officially underway.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Minnesota is blowing out Phoenix up twenty two

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, eight minutes to go there. Of course,

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Speaker 2: we're getting ready for the Lakers in action tonight taking

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Speaker 2: on the dever Nuggets. Mark Medina, our NBA insider, is

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Speaker 2: going to be joining us, coming up in our second hour.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in the first hour though, in about twelve minutes.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break early out of this opening segment, get

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Speaker 2: extended time with Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider, as we

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Speaker 2: get ready for the big day on Thursday, the start

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Draft. So just a few things going on, Mancie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am barely keeping up in fact, I'm just

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Speaker 3: about to tweet our picture because you look so good

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Speaker 3: in this one, Steve, So I'm just gonna make sure

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Speaker 3: the masses see it.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's that look, look it is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there is so much going on, and I know

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Speaker 3: NBA has lost fans recently based on just the lack

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Speaker 3: of you know, physical intensity and everything flopping in left

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Speaker 3: and right. But I'm still a huge NBA fan, And

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Speaker 3: like waking up and knowing that there was a game

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Speaker 3: at ten am, I was like ready to go all day.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. This is a this is a good time.

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Speaker 3: This is a good time.

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Speaker 4: It is a great time right now.

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Speaker 2: We had the playing games, and as it turned out,

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Speaker 2: the seven and eight seeds on both sides ended up

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Speaker 2: getting into the postseason. One of the controversies was what

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Speaker 2: would the Lakers do in their seven eight matchup against

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Speaker 2: the Pelicans. By the way, you know, the Pelicans did

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Speaker 2: prevail and surviving that game against the Kings last night,

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Speaker 2: think about this about this playing round with one game

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Speaker 2: to go on the regular season, the Pelicans were in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs as the sixth seed. They lose to the

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Speaker 2: Lakers drops them into the play and round lose to

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Speaker 2: the Lakers again, they would have gone from safely in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs to completely out of the playoffs in three

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Speaker 2: games had they lost the Sacramento Yeah. See that that

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Speaker 2: doesn't sit well with me.

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Speaker 3: It's I really I was gonna say, I kind of

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Speaker 5: I like the.

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Speaker 3: Craziness that is surrounding the now playing tournament. But you're right,

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Speaker 3: it's you could be frustrated by it. I enjoy it,

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Speaker 3: to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well you're you're of the rich Ormberger school

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Speaker 2: of why can't we just have one game? You know, yes,

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Speaker 2: every game be a do or die game. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: will say this. You know, when the NBA decided to

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Speaker 2: extend every single round of the playoffs four out of seven,

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Speaker 2: I was just like, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: I mean we are right now in the middle of.

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Speaker 2: April and we are in a two month journey till

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals two months.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think it's different with basketball. I

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Speaker 3: don't mind a seven game series because the best team

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Speaker 3: best team actually wins, when in other sports it doesn't

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Speaker 3: happen like that.

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Speaker 2: But wait a second. The idea of the NCA basketball

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Speaker 3: And yeah, no, that's exciting.

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Speaker 2: Well but miss upsets, Yeah, you don't always. Now, this

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Speaker 2: was an exception. Yukon team was so dominant they ended

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Speaker 2: up winning. But that's rare. Yes, So the idea that well,

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Speaker 2: in the best of the seventh series, the best team wins.

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Speaker 2: I remember, and this is you know, I always go

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Speaker 2: back in history, believe it or not, there was a

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Speaker 2: time when the opening round of the NBA Playoffs was

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Speaker 2: who out of three? And in Magic Johnson's second year,

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Speaker 2: the year after they won the championship as a rookie,

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Speaker 2: they had a best two out of three against the

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Speaker 2: Houston Rockets, led by the great Moses Malone. The Lakers

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Speaker 2: lose the first game at home. They go to Houston, win,

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Speaker 2: come home and lose, just like that. Out Isn't that nice?

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Speaker 3: It is? Okay, So if the first round was best

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Speaker 4: Okay, why not do this?

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Speaker 2: How about first round best out of three, second round

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Speaker 2: best out of five, Conference finals, and the finals best

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Speaker 3: I'm not against it. I'm not against it. Really.

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Speaker 2: I mean these opening series are a lot of times

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Speaker 2: they're complete mismatches.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you make a point, and then.

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Speaker 2: What happens is you may have one team that's you know,

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Speaker 2: sweeps through a series, and then on the other side

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Speaker 2: of the brocket, that series goes to seven. Now, all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, you've had a ten day layoff in

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Speaker 2: the postseason. Something isn't right about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to give you credit when you're right,

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Speaker 3: but you're right about that. You are right that the

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Speaker 3: beginning round can be a little bit boring with certain matchups.

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Speaker 3: You are one hundred percent right. Maybe maybe I support

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Speaker 3: this all the way through. I wasn't on it at

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Speaker 2: All Right, Well, let's let's let's just think about this

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Speaker 2: for a second here. If you have a short series,

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Speaker 2: there's urgency from the get go, obviously in a one

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Speaker 2: two out of three to three out of five, it's

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Speaker 2: not like you say, I mean, let's let's let's let's

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Speaker 2: take this game tonight between the Nuggets and the Lakers. Right,

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Speaker 2: everyone was saying, Wow, the Lakers should lose to New

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Speaker 2: Orleans to avoid Denver, and I'm thinking no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: lose and then maybe lose the Sacramento, a team by

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Speaker 2: the way that it owned the Lakers this year. You

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Speaker 2: win when you're supposed to win. I have no problem

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Speaker 2: with that. In fact, if you're the Lakers, your ultimate

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Speaker 2: goal anyways to win a championship.

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Speaker 4: It's not just a win around of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: You've got Lebron James, you got Anthony Davis, you have

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Speaker 2: the Laker legacy behind you. So getting Denver early, I'd

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Speaker 2: rather have Denver early than in the Western Conference finals

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Speaker 2: like we saw a year ago. In fact, I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at tonight's game with the Lakers and I'm saying to myself,

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Speaker 2: this is your opportunity tonight. If the Lakers can win

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Speaker 2: tonight and steal a game in Denver, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a series. If the Lakers lose tonight, this

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Speaker 2: series is not going to go long. I promise you

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Speaker 2: that Denver will make quick work of them. But I

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Speaker 2: think that there is an advantage for Lakers. They played

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Speaker 2: well the other day against the Pelicans, although they almost

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Speaker 2: blew the game, and thank you Zion for ditching.

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Speaker 4: The end of that game was rough, But you know.

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Speaker 2: Denver's been off for a few days. Maybe catch them

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Speaker 2: a little flat. You know, they've been so dominant over

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Speaker 2: I do think though, if you had shorter series, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying the conference finals are the finals, those

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Speaker 2: should be best out of seven that these earlier rounds.

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Speaker 2: Baseball does it earlier rounds like the wildcar round two?

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Speaker 4: I haud of three? Does the best team always win?

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Speaker 4: You can have an upset?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you make a really good point that if

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Speaker 3: it was a short series the first round, there would

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Speaker 3: be some exciting upsets because the urgency is there and

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Speaker 3: you go down one game and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you're panicking. You may not execute the way you think

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Speaker 3: you're going to execute. The Lakers conversation of them losing

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Speaker 3: on purpose to avoid the Denver Nuggets was the dumbest

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Speaker 3: thing I was hearing all week. Why would you want

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Speaker 3: to do that? In fact, if like you said, if

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Speaker 3: I am a Laker fan, I want to face them

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Speaker 3: first and if we beat them, oh, you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: on a high. You're gonna be like, we can take

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Speaker 3: anyone down. I am with you, why would you want

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Speaker 3: to face them later when you're more hired, maybe from

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Speaker 3: the playoffs themselves. Right, So I one dent agree with

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Speaker 3: you on that. I don't think the Lakers are gonna

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Speaker 3: beat the Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: No one thinks they're gonna beat There's no reason to

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Speaker 2: pick the Lakers against the names. And even more amplifying

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Speaker 2: the point is the fact that if you look at

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Speaker 2: the four losses they had in the playoffs last year,

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Speaker 2: all four losses, the Lakers have been in a lot

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Speaker 2: of these games, but at the end of these games,

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Speaker 2: Denver has taken over every single time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, everyone keeps mentioning that that they're a lot closer,

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Speaker 3: but in reality, it's just that Denver turns it on

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Speaker 3: don't think Denver is gonna come into this thinking it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be easy. I don't think they're like that. They're

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Speaker 3: champions for a reason because they know how hard it

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna come in and want to prove

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Speaker 3: a point that actually know it hasn't been that close.

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Speaker 3: We've just let it be close up until we wanted

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Speaker 3: to win.

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Speaker 4: So Cleveland took care of Orlando, no contests and that opening.

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Speaker 3: Has a fun game.

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Speaker 4: Orlando is not good.

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Speaker 3: They're not, but they were trying. They were, you know, like, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm so many.

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Speaker 2: Teams in the playoffs. Mind, see, you can't have tens.

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Speaker 3: They were ready to throw it down in game one.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? That was so exciting. I

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Speaker 3: was like, they're ready to throw it down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and the Minnesota is blowing out Phoenix by

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Speaker 2: twenty round. Now this one, I was so we got

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Speaker 2: the Knicks and the Sixers and then of course the

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Speaker 2: Lakers and Denver coming up. So the NBA playoffs are underway,

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Speaker 2: but I can't even see the finish line.

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Speaker 4: It's so far away. I mean, it's way way out there.

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Speaker 4: All right, Thursday is the day. It is the actual draft.

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Speaker 4: We are finally there.

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Speaker 2: We have talked about it, and we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: to break down all two hundred and fifty seven of

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Speaker 2: this year's NFL Draft, our NFL insider here at Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Adam Kaplan, All right, not all two fifty seven, Adam, But.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know I am do for raise, by the way.

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Speaker 4: I'll pass it along by the way at the top.

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Speaker 2: I just I just saw the note here, and I

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Speaker 4: At the age of eighty three.

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Speaker 2: He was the National Football League's most viable player in

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Speaker 9: In fact, I met his son, Roman Junior, who's a

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Speaker 9: So he was number five for the Eagles when they

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Speaker 7: They got traded.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well for us old timers remember too much. All right,

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Speaker 4: It has been eerily quiet the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: As opposed to what we heard all the noise a

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Speaker 9: because one thing here's a nugget for you. Yes, there

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Speaker 7: In the twenties year after year.

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Speaker 9: Well, I had a friend who's an offensive coach asked

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Speaker 7: A quarterback.

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Speaker 9: See, I know for a fact that ownership loves Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 9: They have their left tackle. They're not drafting a right

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Speaker 9: The needs always about the future. It's not just the

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Speaker 9: And by the way, they could get out of Daniel

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: So, Adam, looking at the top of the draft, when

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Speaker 4: When is it going to happen or is it going

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Speaker 9: No, But I'm going to give you three teams. New

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Speaker 9: England's obvious because they've put it out there that they're

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Speaker 9: Team that you have to keep an eye on, trading

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't want to say I have bashed

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Speaker 9: Because the quarterback driven league, Minnesota, Las Vegas, Denver, those

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Speaker 7: That's not happening.

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Speaker 9: Like he's got a lot right there, but he's missed

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Speaker 2: Ten, Chargers at five. I know I harp on the

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Speaker 2: So you have a new GM and you have a

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Speaker 2: This team was five and twelve last year and Keenan

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Speaker 2: you're doing is replacing a guy that was there a

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Speaker 4: You remember my Herbert trade.

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Speaker 7: But it's the first thing.

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Speaker 7: To take them back.

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Speaker 9: They were five and twelve one. See, the draft is

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Speaker 9: it helps their future because they're getting they're getting. You

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Speaker 9: because they inherited it and they have free rainy to do.

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Speaker 7: What they want.

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Speaker 3: Stop talking about my charger, Steve.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to make him relevant.

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Speaker 9: New colors, by the way, I don't know if you've

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Speaker 9: seen their new They've they've changed their uniform.

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Speaker 7: They're changing a lot. It's kind of kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: Can we talk about the Lions colors?

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Speaker 9: The look at I know, but I don't like. The

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Speaker 9: thing I don't like is right, they do look the same.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 9: Why do they have to put the city on there?

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Speaker 9: It's not necessary now we know by the logo what

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Speaker 9: it is, folks, we don't need it on there.

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Speaker 3: Fair well. I actually, Adam, I wanted to know if one,

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Speaker 3: do you have a tattoo or did you get one

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Speaker 3: like Jim did? Now he has Michigan, Michigan, So yes,

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Speaker 3: he has. And then I guess he said if they

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Speaker 3: won the championship, he would get I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: That, butto do that when Louisville won the championship and

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Speaker 2: then they lost the championship, that's he Look, he's a

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Speaker 2: different guy.

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Speaker 7: He's very very unique. I'll leave it at that. He's

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Speaker 7: obviously he's a great coach.

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Speaker 9: I hope he could last there because he tends to

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Speaker 9: draft people crazy, but he's a phenomenal football coach.

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Speaker 4: All right, so you are.

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Speaker 2: You didn't answer my original question, which is what okay,

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Speaker 2: because I'm looking at your mock drafts, I don't see

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Speaker 2: trades here.

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Speaker 7: I don't do trades.

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Speaker 9: But what you're going to see something Monday, which I

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Speaker 9: do in every final mock draft, there's a section says

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Speaker 9: other considerations colon h and that's where I say a

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Speaker 9: possible trade and so forth. The Chargers will definitely be

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Speaker 9: there for a consideration. I think it's better chance that

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Speaker 9: they pick.

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Speaker 4: Would you trade if you were Arizona for.

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Speaker 9: No, I take Marvin Harrison Junior. I would too, I mean,

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Speaker 9: all fame player.

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Speaker 7: I'm just not doing that.

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Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still on the Kyler Murray bandwagon.

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Speaker 7: John vcgannon really likes him. See he Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 9: Look, he's not for everybody's he's a shorter quarterback of

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Speaker 9: five ten, but he's a playmaker.

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Speaker 7: He's kind of today's quarterback.

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Speaker 9: And boy did he do well late in the season

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Speaker 9: coming back from touring ACL That's the least of the rares.

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Speaker 9: They got a rebuild their offensive line. That team is Look,

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Speaker 9: they've a very they them in. The Panthers have the

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Speaker 9: NFL's worst rosters. It's not really debatable.

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Speaker 7: It's a fact. I get it.

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Speaker 9: By trading down they could get a lot of draft picks.

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Speaker 9: And you know what, I don't disagree in that case.

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Speaker 9: But one thing that I've learned, and this is what

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Speaker 9: Bill Pollion told me, the former Hall of Fame jederal

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Speaker 9: Willie of former we know a personnel guy, but it's

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Speaker 9: Hall of Fame general manager. You never pass up on

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Speaker 9: a Hall of Fame player. And I've never forgotten about that.

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Speaker 9: Marvin Harrison Junior, like his dad, has a chance to

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Speaker 9: make the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna stake in one more quick one.

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Speaker 4: Here I was. I was telling you I was.

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Speaker 7: Going to get a minute.

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Speaker 2: Is there any doubt in your mind Caleb Williams, Jane Daniels,

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Speaker 2: and Drake May will be the first three quarterbacks taken

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Speaker 2: in some order.

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Speaker 9: No, I would have no doubt. I'm not saying May's

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Speaker 9: going three. I do believe he'll be the third quarter.

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Speaker 9: I can't believe if McCarthy. I know Drake May's got

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Speaker 9: some wards, I'll acknowledge that from the people have spoken with,

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Speaker 9: but no offense. Jase McCarthy's not in Drake May's class.

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Speaker 9: But again, as I told Bill Pollian back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 9: I'm just telling you what i've heard that Mitch Rubisky's

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Speaker 9: going in the top ten. And Bill kind of blew

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Speaker 9: up on me, but he wasn't saying that I was wrong.

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Speaker 9: He said it would just be a mistake because he

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Speaker 9: didn't start enough and he should have gone way later.

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Speaker 9: Bill was right, and I was right. Jaj McCarthy has

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Speaker 9: no business going in the top ten, but he probably will.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Adam, we're going to see how this

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Speaker 2: all plays out, and then next week we get to

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Speaker 2: talk about it.

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Speaker 7: Look forward to that.

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Speaker 4: First we'll be in Day three of the draft next Saturday.

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Speaker 4: But Adam.

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Speaker 2: As always, everything leading up to this draft not possible

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Speaker 2: without your insight. Will see how accurate your predictions are,

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Speaker 2: and if they're not great, I won't hold you to it.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna you know, no one will remember.

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Speaker 4: No one will remember, and that won't bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Adam, thanks so much. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 7: I guts that.

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Speaker 2: That's Adam Kaplan, our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider.

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Speaker 4: Who knows.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we sit there every single year in the draft,

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Speaker 2: and you know, sometimes at the top, things sort of

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Speaker 2: and order and it takes one pick, yeah, one.

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Speaker 4: Pick, like where did that come from?

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Speaker 2: And it's the domino effect, and then all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden there might be a run on a position like

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Speaker 2: wide receiver or edge or one of these positions that

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Speaker 2: maybe he didn't think would have a run earlier in

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 4: But that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: Something's going to happen. Something is going to happen. I

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Speaker 3: just don't know when or what, because it's been too quiet.

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Speaker 2: You said that, and I'm looking at you. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I was thinking the exact same thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, people are convoluting in their inside.

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Speaker 2: Last year we had Will Levis, which just skylrocket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened to.

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Speaker 2: That girl he showed up with at the draft that

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Speaker 2: was posing for the cameras the entire time.

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Speaker 3: She broke up? Last I heard she broke up with

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Speaker 3: him after that, and then people came after her when

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Speaker 3: he had that great game, and so that's last I heard.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they've reconciled. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they have.

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Speaker 7: I think so.

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Speaker 2: I think after that four touchdown passing game, he's like,

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Speaker 2: I can do better.

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Speaker 3: I could do better.

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Speaker 4: I can do better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So trust me if people want to tell her

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Speaker 3: on her social media, because I went to check, I

564
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Speaker 3: was like, is this really happening? Oh yeah, people are

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Speaker 3: telling her his stats for the day.

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Speaker 5: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Wyret's in the house. Kevin, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Man, A big day of NBA basketball playoffs, so

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Speaker 6: it's a great day to be in. Of course, a

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Speaker 6: lot of Major League baseball, so yeah, super happy to

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Speaker 6: be in and watching all this great action right now.

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Speaker 6: We got the seventy six Ers and Knicks going on

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Speaker 6: right now as Philadelphia out in front. Early seventeen to seven.

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Speaker 6: Joel Mbiat has outscored the entire New York Knicks team

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Speaker 6: through the first half of the first quarter, as he's

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Speaker 6: got nine points compared to just seven for New York.

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Speaker 6: As again, Philadelphia up by double digits six fifty five

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Speaker 6: to go in the first quarter.

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Speaker 5: We've had a couple of other.

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Speaker 6: Games go final already earlier today, the Cavaliers smothering the

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Speaker 6: Magic ninety seven to eighty three, Orlando shooting just thirty

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Speaker 6: two percent from the fie and Cleveland getting outstanding performances

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Speaker 6: all around. Donovan Mitchell thirty points, Evan Mobley had sixteen

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Speaker 6: points eleven rebounds as Cleveland takes a one to nothing

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Speaker 6: lead in this best of seven first round at Eastern

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Speaker 6: Conference playoff series, and the Timberwolves demolished the Suns one

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Speaker 6: twenty to ninety five as Carl Anthony Towns nineteen points,

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Speaker 6: seven rebounds, but Anthony Edwards had a really strong second half.

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Speaker 6: Was quiet for the first couple of quarters, but really

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Speaker 6: came alive in the second twenty four minutes thirty three points.

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Speaker 6: He finished the game with nine rebounds, and Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 6: a double double fourteen points, sixteen rebounds as Minnesota now

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Speaker 6: up in that series, won games to nine and coming

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Speaker 6: up eight thirty Eastern time Lakers and Nuggets as Los

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Speaker 6: Angeles trying to get their first win against Denver in

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Speaker 6: four hundred and ninety days. So the Lakers got a

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Speaker 6: lot of work cut out for them as they prepare

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Speaker 6: to face a Denver later tonight. And we did get

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Speaker 6: an update from agent Warden asking now calling on me shocked,

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Speaker 6: but Woach says that there is increasing doubt against the Mavericks.

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Speaker 6: You know what else is new though when it comes

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Speaker 6: to Kawhi Leonard and the postseason for the Clippers. So

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Speaker 6: not not a good omen right there for Clipper fans.

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Speaker 2: We already had Bo Benson announced that Kawhi, according to

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Speaker 2: his sources.

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Speaker 4: Is out for the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as Kevin just mentioned, what's new here? What's new?

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Speaker 4: This is?

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Speaker 3: This is just it's the Clippers, and you know what,

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Speaker 3: that's fine. Still without Kawhi, I think we have a chance.

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Speaker 4: Do you agree with that, Kevin?

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Speaker 5: They have a chance.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it depends on how well Luca and uh

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Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving play because uh, I think that can overcome

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Speaker 6: whatever the Clippers have.

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Speaker 5: Minus we just have.

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Speaker 3: A deeper bench than a lot of teams. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: know that's that is why I'm holding on too.

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Speaker 6: Now, we are still waiting for James Harden to cause

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Speaker 6: an implosion like he has everywhere else.

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Speaker 3: Let's not listen, we already lost Kawhi. Let's not ask

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Speaker 3: for anything else here, Kevin. Let's just hope everyone stays

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Speaker 3: fine and dandy and he can create an explosion at

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Speaker 3: the parade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if they ever have a parade shirt?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly where is that breaking?

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Speaker 5: But Western Conference Finals appearance is over there? And wait

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Speaker 5: just to.

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Speaker 2: See that new arena that they're going to open up

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Speaker 2: next season, because I hear it is going to be ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have a man where one hundred billion

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Speaker 2: dollars only your team. He could again buy the entire

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Speaker 2: lead and make it the National Bomber Association quite easily.

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Speaker 3: That's so good.

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Speaker 5: I think it's cute.

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Speaker 6: The Clippers think they can recreate the showtime the Lakers

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Speaker 6: had in Englewood.

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Speaker 3: So Kevin, don't don't play with me right now, we're

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Speaker 3: about to go on a break. I'm gonna walk over

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 2: I'll just hang on, just hold off on this. Hey,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much, Kevin. We'll talk to you a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on once again. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvey,

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Speaker 2: montsby Manzi Blanos Here. We're live from the tiraq dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. I want to just follow up on the

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Speaker 2: Chargers for a second. Hear we're talking about the draft,

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Speaker 2: so Ortis or this general manager of the Chargers h

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Speaker 2: O Rti z Ortis Ortiz Ortiz. I'm going to guess

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Speaker 2: Ortiz Ortiz. I'm going to So this guy was part

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Speaker 2: of the Ravens player personnel for twenty six years.

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Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons that he left the forty nine

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Speaker 2: Ers to go to the University of Michigan was the

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Speaker 2: fact that he was frustrated that he didn't have more

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Speaker 2: say in personnel.

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Speaker 4: You know, it felt like he had earned it in

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Speaker 4: his four year run as head coach.

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Speaker 2: So this Ortiz Ortiz has made it clear I'm the

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Speaker 2: one who picks the player, not Jim Harbaugh. And I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking that doesn't sound right. Before your very first draft.

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Speaker 3: Together, what why would you say that?

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Speaker 4: I have no idea who he said that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he says it's a collaborative effort, but I'm

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Speaker 2: the one that's going to make the pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm interested in Jim's input, but the picks on me.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't seem like a good way to start a relationship.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not going to be a good start if

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Speaker 2: you don't make the right decision. The Chargers say they

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Speaker 2: need an attractive offer to trade.

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Speaker 4: The out of the fifth pick.

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Speaker 2: They honestly believe that the Cardinals are trading out of

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Speaker 2: four to a team that wants JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I read that, which seems ridiculous. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why they would do that, but it makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals and the Chargers are in the same boat.

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Speaker 4: They have gaping holes and so but at the same time.

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Speaker 2: They're both looking for wide receivers to help their quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And you have two phenomenal talents right at the top

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Speaker 2: of this draft.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Chargers are trying to make the pits that we have

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Speaker 2: the first taking the draft, meaning the real draft, after

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Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks had taken, So they're trying to, you know,

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Speaker 2: set themselves up for a day.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals do that, and for some reason, the Chargers

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Speaker 3: are able to get Marvin Harrison junior all but.

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Speaker 4: They need more.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem for the Chargers, and this is a

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Speaker 2: problem for a lot of teams. And we always seem

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Speaker 2: to downplay the value of running backs and maybe they

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Speaker 2: don't have a lot of draft value, but you look

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Speaker 2: at Austin Eckler when he was healthy for a couple

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Speaker 2: of years, who was undrafted. I mean, Tom Tellusco got

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Speaker 2: a lot of heated with the Chargers. There's a signing

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Speaker 2: that worked out beautifully. And when he was healthy and

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Speaker 2: effective as a receiver, he was a versatile back. He

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Speaker 2: was a touchdown machine. That's when Justin Herbert was at

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Speaker 2: his best. Quarterbacks need production out of their backs, especially

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Speaker 2: as receivers. You take that element away, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: they become or andary when they looked good before that.

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Speaker 3: Now you make an excellent point. I just don't know

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Speaker 3: if the Chargers are looking now that they have I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying that these guys are going to be the

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Speaker 3: difference makers, but with JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards, maybe

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Speaker 3: they're just not focusing on the running back. But you're

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Of Dobbin's coming off an injury. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: if he's going to make it on the team next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly they're not focusing on the running back at

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Speaker 3: the moment. But you said it, you and there's so

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Speaker 3: many holes that the Chargers have, There's.

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Speaker 4: So many they need.

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Speaker 2: So this again, I think we're onto something with this

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Speaker 2: quiet before the storm.

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Speaker 4: It's just been way too quiet.

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Speaker 2: When Chargers claims they haven't had a single real offer,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that for a second.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's something they don't.

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Speaker 2: Last year a lot of noise this year not so much.

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Speaker 2: I have a sense there's going to be just a

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Speaker 2: bevy of trades early on in this draft.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, someone that has reached

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Speaker 2: the pinnacle in their sport is finding out what it

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Speaker 2: means to be at the top of the mountain. We'll

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Speaker 2: explain who that is. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 7: All Right, you.

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Speaker 4: Playing my stuff now, Marymac? I like that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, stop aging yourself. I tochic and I was like seventies, right,

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Speaker 3: slay sixties seventies Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that disco era was working. I showed Monsey a

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Speaker 2: picture of me back in what was it, seventy seven?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you look the same in a good way.

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Speaker 2: You had an offer, right, No, no, no, no no no,

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Speaker 2: it was no no. I always had straight hair, but

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Speaker 2: it was long, long your hair hair. Okay, once again,

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, Monsey Bolanos. We're

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Speaker 2: in the tire rack dot com studios. So Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: first picking the WNBA draft now a member of the

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Speaker 2: Indiana Fever, and she had a press conference that of

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Speaker 2: course anything she does is going to get national attention,

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Speaker 2: and she was introduced to Greg Doyle, who is the

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Speaker 2: league columnist for the Indianapolis Star.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I interviewed Greg on several occasions going back to his

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Speaker 2: cbssports dot com days. He reminds me a lot of

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Speaker 2: my dear friend TJ Simers, who is a longtime columnist,

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Speaker 2: most recently with the Los Angeles Times.

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Speaker 4: TJ was an agitator.

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Speaker 2: He was one of those guys columnists that would look

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Speaker 2: to provoke people. So he was an agitator. I saw

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Speaker 2: him an action many times. I'm an agitator, so I

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Speaker 2: know how this works. So gret that's who Greg Doyle is,

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Speaker 2: and he thought he was being cute by putting up

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Speaker 2: the little love sign, you know, heart sign there, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it was obviously Caitlin Clark really didn't know how

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Speaker 2: to react other than the fact she acknowledged the fact

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Speaker 2: that she does that to her family every game. And

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Speaker 2: so afterwards, when Doyle got a lot of heat, he

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Speaker 2: sort of brought it back, but not really because he said, look,

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Speaker 2: I've my attitude toward her is the same attitude I've

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Speaker 2: had about all athletes.

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Speaker 4: I've gone on the.

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Speaker 2: Attack, attack, attack, attack, attack, but I forgot she's a female.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, Greg, now you're really Now you're really.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know how a guy like this operates.

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Speaker 2: He's really trying to get himself in the news, which

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Speaker 2: obviously is done. But let me ask you this because

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Speaker 2: I do think it is a fair question in terms

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Speaker 2: of high profile athletes, men and women, and women obviously

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Speaker 2: want their fair share.

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Speaker 4: What she did at Iowa is on the record books.

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Speaker 2: More people watch that championship game against South Carolina than

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Speaker 2: any basketball game in five years NBA Men's college any

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Speaker 2: basketball game. More people watch that game than any basketball

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Speaker 2: game in the last five years. So from a female

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Speaker 2: athlete's perspective, should they be treated, in your opinion, exactly

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Speaker 2: the same as their male counterparts.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that is a loaded question. In the

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Speaker 3: general sense when I say I want to be treated

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Speaker 3: equally like a man, it's really just the respect. But

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Speaker 3: we're not the same, so it's not I'm gonna say, like, yes,

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Speaker 3: in the general sense of respect, you have to treat

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Speaker 3: her the way you have treated other male athletes in

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Speaker 3: the past. But is it a little bit different. Maybe so,

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Speaker 3: And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. What

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Speaker 3: he did was just playing stupid and ridiculous, and then

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Speaker 3: he doubled down on his stupidness with his article that

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Speaker 3: he wrote about it. Obviously this was for attention, and

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Speaker 3: it's just was so dumb, Like I really don't know

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Speaker 3: if he expected that to go well and then it

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Speaker 3: backfired and he was like, well, at LISTA was still

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Speaker 3: getting attention, or if he thought from the beginning that

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Speaker 3: that was a smart thing to do. It was so stupid.

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Speaker 3: You should have just said that you were jokingly trying

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Speaker 3: to shoot your shot, because your apology was just dumb. Nothing.

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Speaker 3: I don't under I didn't even read it. I didn't

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Speaker 3: even want to read it, but I heard about it.

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Speaker 3: I heard what he said, and it just is stupid.

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Speaker 2: Here here's my question. I remember our national women's soccer team.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember which Olympics it was, but they were

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Speaker 2: upset in the final and they lost to an inferior team.

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Speaker 2: They played a bad match and they lost. And normally,

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Speaker 2: if it had been the men's team, where you're a

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Speaker 2: heavy favorite and you lose.

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Speaker 3: We crush him.

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Speaker 2: You choke, you chokers, chokers. But when criticism was leveled

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Speaker 2: at the women's team for not delivering what everyone thought

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Speaker 2: was going to happen, people are like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that. And I remember thinking, well why not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they're expected to win, they're favored to win,

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Speaker 2: and they lose, they can't be criticized.

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Speaker 5: I see.

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Speaker 2: I think this is where a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: a little bit at the crossroads in terms of a sensitivity,

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Speaker 2: in terms of equal coverage, equal criticism, equal praise. I mean,

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Speaker 2: certainly Caitlin Clark has gotten nothing but praise. Some people

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Speaker 2: in her own circle feel like it's been too much.

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Speaker 2: You know, women of the WNBA and some of the

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Speaker 2: great collegiate stars of the past.

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Speaker 4: But this is the problem.

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Speaker 2: When you get to the top, she is going to

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Speaker 2: get a lot of people rooting against her.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's natural. I think she's going to expect that,

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Speaker 3: and I think that she should be not criticized, but

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Speaker 3: criticized if she does have a bad game. I think

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Speaker 3: you should be able to tell her you choked, or

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Speaker 3: any female athlete or team if that does happen. I

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Speaker 3: think that's fair game. I don't see why not. But

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Speaker 3: obviously this is just something that has been going on

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Speaker 3: for years and the change is gonna take a little longer.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen overnight. But I think female athletes

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Speaker 3: should be held to the same standard, and if you

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Speaker 3: messed up and you choked, you should be called out

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as far as WNBA players being paid more,

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Speaker 2: if she can raise the level of interest in this league,

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Speaker 2: not only will she get paid more, every all the

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Speaker 2: woman will get paid more. That was the phenomenon was

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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods and golf. All right, we got much more

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Speaker 2: coming up with the NBA draft, and excuse me, the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft and the NBA Playoffs.

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Speaker 2: join us as the NBA playoffs are underway. And right

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Speaker 2: now the Knicks at home are down nine to the Sixers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how much are how Jason Smith is doing?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: One thing about Philadelphia obviously without Embiid for much of

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Speaker 2: the year, and when he's back on the court obviously

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Speaker 2: a much different team. He already has fifteen points in

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Speaker 2: this game. And so this is one of those you know,

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Speaker 2: because people were like, well, who in the East is

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Speaker 2: good enough to knock off the Celtics? And my immediate

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Speaker 2: response is four out of seven?

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Speaker 4: Nobody?

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Speaker 3: I you know what, I don't even trust the Celtics

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Speaker 3: that much actually, if I'm being fletely honest, but the

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Speaker 3: seventy six ers, I I if I'm a fan, I

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Speaker 3: am holding my breath because do you think Joel Embiid

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Speaker 3: is one hundred percent?

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Speaker 4: No, well, he looks one hundred percent right now. I

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Speaker 4: mean he's dominating this game.

878
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: Early on, I would be holding my breath just because

879
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he's one hundred percent. Obviously he's better

880
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: than bad. I'm not saying he's like a fifty percent,

881
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: but I don't think he's at one hundred. So I

882
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: would be just nervous that something reag aggravates in the

883
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: middle of a game or something.

884
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: Well, with Randall going out for the Knicks right now,

885
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Brunson is the guy, and I

886
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: don't I don't know if anyone really thought Jalen Brunson

887
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: was going to be this level of player that he

888
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: has been this year. Certainly an MVP candidate, but early

889
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: on in this game, you're already getting a sense that

890
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: he feels like I got to do everything. Mm hmm.

891
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: He's two for eight shooting to start the game, missed

892
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: a couple of threes, and his plus minus is minus nine.

893
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: So it's it's I don't look at Brunson as that guy.

894
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he is proven to be a

895
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: legitimate All Star talent, but as a guy that can

896
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: carry a team in a best of seven series. Maybe

897
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 2: maybe he proves me wrong, but I don't see Brunson

898
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: as that level of player. I'll put it this way.

899
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: He's not Jimmy Butler. I just wanted to throw that

900
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: out to you.

901
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 4: I love Yeamy, Jimmy.

902
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: You know I love Jimmy or Jimmy. You know what,

903
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson thinks he is that guy, and I think

904
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: he can be. Half the battle is believing that you

905
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: can be that guy, and I think he thinks he

906
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: is that guy. So I think he is maybe a

907
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: little bit nervous, especially after when the Sixers won and

908
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: it was official that they were going to take on

909
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: the Knicks. On social media, everybody was like, oh, this

910
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: is not what the Knicks wanted. The Knicks did not

911
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 3: want to face Philly, and so maybe there's a little

912
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: bit of nerves, a little bit of pressure because of

913
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: what was being said on social media. But I think

914
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson believes he's the guy, and that is half

915
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: the battle, and I think he can be the guy.

916
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: I just wish the NBA had less teams than the playoffs.

917
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to overharp this, but how many.

918
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 3: Well, in a perfect Hartman situation.

919
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: All right, you have thirty teams.

920
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 3: Thirty teams twelve six and six, six and six, still

921
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 3: two conferences or the best twelve.

922
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: No, I'd still the two conferences because if you look

923
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: at the East, obviously the bottom two the Bulls and the.

924
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: Hawks losing records.

925
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

926
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: And then if you look at the West, I mean,

927
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: you know, New Orleans was a forty nine win team

928
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: and they were seven seeds, so in my format, they

929
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: would not have made the playoffs. This idea, see the

930
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: idea that you're keeping more teams in the mix by

931
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: extending or creating the play in round. If you know

932
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: that you're battling. Think about, for instance, the Western Conference.

933
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: Think about how crazy it would have been if you

934
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: had liminated the playing round and everyone's battling for that

935
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: sixth slot.

936
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you would have had New Orleans, you would

937
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: have had the Lakers, you would have.

938
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: Had Phoenix, all these teams, the Golden State, Sacramento, they

939
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: were all bunch within a couple of wins. So there

940
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: was no like days off. Like you're in a sense

941
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: of urgency. But to me, when you have half or

942
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: more than half of your teams, and in the NBA's case,

943
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: if you want to include the play on round twenty

944
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: out of thirty, it just to me. It takes away

945
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: to me from the regular season. Here's what I don't

946
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: understand Major League Baseball for the longest time, and I

947
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: know this was ancient history, but for the longest time,

948
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 2: they had two leagues, two champions There was no league

949
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: championship series, the wild card. You just and sometimes the

950
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: team would win the penny by ten games. Sometimes it

951
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 2: would come down to the final day of the season

952
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: to determine who's going.

953
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 4: To make a right to the World Series.

954
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: So the idea of keeping more teams in the mix

955
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: late in the year to be what a ten seed,

956
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: a nine seed?

957
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 4: What does that even mean?

958
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: It's a flawed system. This was done so that teams

959
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: would not tank as early as they were tanking. That

960
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: was the goal of this. There have been some fun

961
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: play in games, but I would not be opposed to

962
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: less teams going into the playoffs. For basketball, I would

963
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 3: not be opposed to that.

964
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: All right, the idea of tanking, this is this is

965
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: not an original idea. I heard this before, So let's

966
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: just use the NBA as an example in terms of

967
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: the draft order. So the idea that the worst record

968
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: gets the first pick and so on. Why don't you

969
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: do this? This was suggested by someone else, but I

970
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: thought it was sort of a interesting idea. Okay, So

971
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: when a team is mathematically eliminated, huh, whose ever team

972
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: has the highest winning percentage after being mathematically eliminated gets

973
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: the best pick in the draft. So let's say you

974
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: were eliminated with ten games to go, and you go

975
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: eight and two. The rest of the way, you win eight,

976
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: lose two, You get the first pick in the draft.

977
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 2: So the incentive on winning comes after you've been mathematically eliminated.

978
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 3: That's actually kind of brilliant. That's actually a really good idea.

979
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: So it does the exact reverse of what we see

980
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: year after year after year. Once teams are eliminated, they

981
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: just you know, lose out.

982
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: Huh.

983
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: So you would put an incentive on them winning games

984
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: after being mathematically eliminated.

985
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 3: That makes too much sense. Why have you have you

986
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: told the NBA this? Have you sent a memo a tweet?

987
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: I think I first heard this idea a number of

988
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: years ago. Oh, but it does make some sense because

989
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: if you're only adding to how many teams are in

990
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: the postseason based on tanking, well, one way to eliminate

991
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: tanking is the idea that the worst record overall just

992
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: ends up with the first pick in the draft. I

993
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: know we have the draft lottery, but that doesn't usually

994
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: change a whole lot Yeah in terms, and I'm very

995
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: suspicious of the draft lottery anyway, certain teams magically, like

996
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: San Antonio, it magically gets wemby.

997
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, wink wink.

998
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: Go back to the very first lottery when the Knicks

999
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: ended up with Patrick Ewing, and the word was is

1000
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: that the commissioner, David Stern, they froze one of the cards,

1001
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: like the Knicks card. He could fill the It wasn't

1002
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: bent or anything, but it was cold, and magically the

1003
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: New York Knicks, the number one market, ends up getting

1004
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing in that draft. But I mean this, that

1005
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: would eliminate all this.

1006
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually a really good idea.

1007
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: Get a lottery where they're picking out I'm suspicious any

1008
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 2: lottery and eliminate that whichever team has the highest winning

1009
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: And now you say, well, what happens if you're mathematically

1010
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: eliminated with one game to go, and you go and

1011
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: you win that game, you're one to Oh you're you know,

1012
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: you'd have to tinker with this.

1013
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: A little yeah, a little bit like make it when yeah,

1014
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: there is something here, there is something here that makes

1015
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: perfect sense as to you're eliminated, but you want to

1016
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: keep fighting because it does matter in.

1017
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: The end, right, I just I just again, if you

1018
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: had taken a look at the Western Conference this year

1019
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: and you suddenly only had six spots in play, and

1020
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: you had Dallas and you had New Orleans and he

1021
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: had Phoenix, he had the Lakers, he had sacramenty at

1022
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: Golden State battling for one or two spots, Yeah, that would.

1023
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 4: Have been pretty dynamic. And guess what if you if.

1024
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: You if you if you're not in the top six

1025
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: in your conference. The lowest seed ever to win the

1026
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: NBA Championship, by the way, was a sixth seed. That

1027
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: was the Houston Rockets on the back of the back

1028
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: to back and that was long ago, in the mid nineties.

1029
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: So if you're not, if you can't place in the

1030
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: top six in your conference, should you really be given

1031
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: an opportunity to play in the postseeds.

1032
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: I mean, listen to Miami. He went to the finals,

1033
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: to the conference finals. They did it, and they were

1034
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: an eighth seed.

1035
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you said against a Jimmy Butler.

1036
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I did. Yes, exactly why I'm bringing it

1037
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: up for Jimmy he is him. Okay, So, but they

1038
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: were a great example. What were the MAVs. When the

1039
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: MAVs won, what seed were they? Do you remember?

1040
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 4: Well, they weren't a sixth seed.

1041
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd have to look it up, but I

1042
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: mean the lowest seed ever to win in the modern

1043
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: seeding of the NBA was the Rockets, who are six

1044
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: seed in ninety five. I believe, so that was the

1045
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: lowest seed. But I mean seriously, I mean, if you're

1046
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: not top six your conference, call it a day and

1047
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: we'll see you next year. And that's why we have

1048
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: these playing games, and now we're having the first round

1049
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: matchups that most likely are not going to produce any

1050
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: real upsets. I mean, five versus four is legit in

1051
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: my book, a six ' three of two, seven, one,

1052
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: eight eights.

1053
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: This would work even better if it was just six

1054
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 3: teams going to the playoffs and then the final ones

1055
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: battle it out. So that they do get a higher

1056
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: lottery pick.

1057
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. And by the way, you say, well, how do

1058
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 4: you do the six teams? Very simple? You the top

1059
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 4: two seeds get a bye. Yeah. Less is more, less

1060
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 4: is more.

1061
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: With that statement, less is more, do you think the

1062
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: season should be shortened? Do you think it's too long? No,

1063
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: especially with the injuries.

1064
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 4: And we're like, now if.

1065
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: You if you shorten the seasons, you're gonna wipe out

1066
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: the record books.

1067
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 3: M it's a good point.

1068
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: I mean, this is you know, unfortunately for these leagues,

1069
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: they set the bar in terms of length of the

1070
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: seasons too far. The one thing I would do with

1071
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: if I with the NBA, though, and I've said this before,

1072
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody else say this.

1073
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: Their season goes October to June.

1074
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, move the season uh huh.

1075
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: November to August.

1076
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: If they were playing the NBA Finals in the dog

1077
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: days of August, where still nothing matters in baseball because

1078
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: we haven't gotten to September. By the way, the NFL

1079
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: season starts at September, so you literally would have no

1080
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 2: head to head barely against the NFL because your season

1081
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: starts starts on Christmas Day.

1082
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: How about that?

1083
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1084
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: And then you get.

1085
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: Past the NFL and the playoffs, and then you get

1086
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: the meteor schedule during the dog days of the baseball season.

1087
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 3: You don't know why they haven't done that, because that's

1088
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: been obvious for years that it's like, you have the

1089
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: opportunity to take over a month where nothing is going on,

1090
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: where you can have all eyes on you. Instead you

1091
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: want to fight and battle it out with a sport

1092
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: that is way more attractive to time.

1093
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: It just makes all that sense.

1094
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes too much sense. Again. Did you write

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Speaker 3: a memo to the NBA. Yes, they've been listening.

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Speaker 4: They've been listening, and it's because it's coming from me.

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Speaker 2: They refuse to say that we're going to do that

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Speaker 2: because they never want Hartman to be right. All right,

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Speaker 2: coming out on the other side, We're going to get

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Speaker 2: back to one of the NBA teams and the idea

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00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: of a certain player holding up an entire franchise not new,

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00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: but it's happening right now in the NBA. Is it

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Speaker 2: time to turn the page? In fact, there's a couple

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Speaker 2: of teams this may apply to. We'll tell you which

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Speaker 2: one is. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbmin and

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Speaker 2: Montci belangios. Here Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from the

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Speaker 2: Podcasts, and you'll see this show posted right after we

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Speaker 2: get off the air. NBA Playoffs are off and running.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Knicks and now taking the lead

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Speaker 2: over the Sixers. So a run for the Knicks right now,

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00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: forty five forty one, four and a half minutes to

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Speaker 2: go the first half of that game. What should we

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00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: expect in this year's NBA Playoffs? The man to break

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Speaker 2: it down every single game of every single round. Now

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Speaker 2: we're not going to do that, is our NBA insider.

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Speaker 2: Mark Mendina is joining us right now. First of all, Mark,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. Let's talk a little about this

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six ers team.

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Speaker 4: We're watching right now.

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Speaker 2: With Embiid back in the lineup, Monzie says she doesn't

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00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 2: trust that he's going to be able to survive on

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Speaker 2: the court. What is the buzz on Embiid and his

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00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: comeback and how confident should Sixers fans be that he's

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00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: good for the duration of the season.

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Speaker 10: Well, Dave, it's a fair question. It's always flow. But

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00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 10: for what it's worth, I did talk to Joel Embiid's trainer,

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00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 10: True Handlin earlier this week and asked him about his health.

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Speaker 10: And while he did conceie the fact that, especially at

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Speaker 10: this point the season, is no one is one hundred

1136
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 10: percent healthy, he was very confident with not only do

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Speaker 10: all of beats play, but his movement, and he had

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00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 10: a prediction that he will be, you know, fully available

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00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 10: through the rest of the playoffs, however long or short.

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Speaker 2: That is all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's good, that's good to hear. I. You know,

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Speaker 3: I just was saying that if I was a Sixers fan,

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Speaker 3: I would be a little bit nervous. Now I am

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Speaker 3: a Clippers fan, so I'm nervous. Mark, tell me, tell

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Speaker 3: me just just is Kawisney just gone? Does he have

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Speaker 3: no meniscus? Just be honest with.

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Speaker 10: Me, Mon said, Do you want me to lie to

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Speaker 10: you or be honest?

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Speaker 3: No, I want you to be honest with me, because

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00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: I the truth hurts, but I need to hear it.

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Speaker 10: Okay, well here, here's it's truth you asked for. Mon Say,

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00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 10: Tywu doesn't know if he's even going to play in

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Speaker 10: Game one tomorrow. It's been up in the air. He

1154
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 10: hasn't even had a full practice. I think that those

1155
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 10: are gigantic right flags. While it's not like the ACL

1156
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 10: injury in twenty twenty one, I don't even think it's

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Speaker 10: like the meniscus injury in his right kney last season.

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Speaker 10: The reality is he went from a sore right knee

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Speaker 10: to having inflammation. He's been able to do some practice

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Speaker 10: work this week, but it's only been shooting. He hasn't

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Speaker 10: done any full core five on five, hasn't done any

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Speaker 10: contact work, and the schedule condenses once the playoffs starts.

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Speaker 10: So I think it is a gigantic concern that not

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Speaker 10: that we're having a potentially season ending injury with Kawhi

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Speaker 10: that will need surgery, but at least an injury that's

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Speaker 10: not going to keep him available for most, if not all,

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Speaker 10: of the first round series against Sales.

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Speaker 2: Well, this, and this brings up the fact that Steve Bomber,

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Speaker 2: who has enough money to buy every team in this league,

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Speaker 2: twice over, actually maybe three times over, could be the

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Speaker 2: National Bomber Association if he wanted. As basically, Mark, he's

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Speaker 2: all in with Kawhi Leonard. I mean, everything from day

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Speaker 2: one has been around Kawhi Leonard. Now I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard's extended contract, all guaranteed money through the twenty

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Speaker 2: six to twenty seventh season, and now they're facing a

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Speaker 2: player option on Paul George and obviously James Harden is

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Speaker 2: a walkaway free agent after the year. Would you feel comfortable,

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Speaker 2: if you were Steve Bomber projecting over the next two

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Speaker 2: to three years, do you have faith that you can

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Speaker 2: still build around Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 10: It's a fair question. I can't speak for Steve Balmer,

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00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 10: but knowing how the Clippers have operated, I think that

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00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 10: they've made the decision that, even within Kawhi's injury history

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Speaker 10: and especially coming to that most inopportune times during the playoffs,

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Speaker 10: that they feel pragmatically this is the best option. And

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Speaker 10: when you look at the fact that they're going to

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Speaker 10: go into into a dome next season, they want to

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00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 10: have a reason for fans that want to go to

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Speaker 10: games and buy tickets. But I think The key thing

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Speaker 10: here is they did extend Kawhi Leonard, and I think

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00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 10: that they wanted to show a faith in him. They

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Speaker 10: also know that this can be a domino effect. They

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00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 10: haven't had any momentum with Paul George or James Harding yet,

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Speaker 10: I think because they want to see how the playoffs go.

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Speaker 10: But extensions and contracts in today's NBA doesn't mean a

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Speaker 10: single thing for both management and for players. For management,

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00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 10: they can trade those contracts at any point in time.

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Speaker 10: For players, even if they're under contract, they can go

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Speaker 10: to an organization of their star player and say, I

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Speaker 10: want how this contract trade me. So, while it is concerning, okay,

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00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 10: he's on the books with this extension, if things go really,

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 10: really south, they can wiggle themselves out of this mess.

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00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 10: But I think at this point in time, when you're

1204
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 10: looking at his tenure since twenty nineteen, they've decided he's

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 10: worth the price because when healthy, he's been really dominant,

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Speaker 10: and they've been bullish that the further he's removed from

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 10: his ACL injury in twenty twenty one, that they'll finally

1208
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 10: get a healthy version of Quad. They got him for

1209
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Speaker 10: the most part this season, but again since March thirty first,

1210
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 10: not so much.

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Speaker 3: Mark. Why do you think Okase is not being taken seriously?

1212
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: They're first in the Western Conference. Do you think it's

1213
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: just age in experience? Why are they not being taken seriously?

1214
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I think it's two things. Mons. I think it's because

1216
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 10: they're in a small market. Number one. Number two, they

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00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 10: are young, and there's this kind of let's cross our

1218
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 10: shoulders or you know, yeah, whatever that phrase is, wait

1219
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 10: and see approach. Okay, you're young, what see you do

1220
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 10: this in the playoffs? But I think that even though

1221
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 10: they are young, they do have a lot of maturity

1222
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Speaker 10: with Shay Gojess, Alexander blue Door, Mark desjenaldis the head

1223
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Speaker 10: coach of the Year for a reason, and even though

1224
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Speaker 10: Chut Holmern is only a rookie, the fact that he

1225
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 10: was technically a rookie last season with missing the entire

1226
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Speaker 10: year but being able to spend that year with watching film,

1227
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 10: being around NBA personnel. They are a young team, but

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Speaker 10: for their age, they're very mature. So I think if

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Speaker 10: they are going to fall short in the playoffs, I

1230
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 10: think it's because of just tactics and not feeling overwhelmed.

1231
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 10: But this is a crowd of Western Conference, and I

1232
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 10: think that even though the Denver Nuggets technically had the

1233
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 10: second seed, they're more favored because they have most of

1234
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 10: their championship core back this time around.

1235
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Speaker 2: I had a good laugh when people were talking about

1236
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Speaker 2: the Lakers should lose their playing active with the Pelicans

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01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: to try to avoid the Nuggets, and I'm thinking to myself,

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Speaker 2: these are still the Lakers, right, I mean, we're not

1239
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Speaker 2: talking about the Lakers where hey, we want to win

1240
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Speaker 2: a playoff series. They're still held to that standard I

1241
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: would hope of winning championships, So you're going to have

1242
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: to get through at some point.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather get them early than late, and maybe they can,

1245
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: you know, pull a surprise here and steal a game

1246
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: in Denver to start this series. But if the Lakers

1247
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: are to win this series against the Denver Nuggets, the

1248
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: team that has dominated them over the last couple of years,

1249
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: and a Nuggets team that obviously gained a lot of

1250
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: confidence by winning that championship really easily a year ago,

1251
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: they dominated the postseason, what is going to have to

1252
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: happen from the Lakers standpoint in order to win this

1253
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: series against Denver?

1254
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, save First of all, I agree with you

1255
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 10: with the whole notion of trying to dodge a future opponent.

1256
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 10: I was talking to Robert Orry about that and he

1257
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 10: was saying, look like if they had to play the

1258
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 10: Kings in that second playing game, they struggled against them too.

1259
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 10: And I pointed out to Robert, Yeah, they don't have

1260
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 10: someone like you that could hit that three at the

1261
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 10: top of the key to eliminate the Kings or create

1262
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 10: a sizable advantage in the series like you did in

1263
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 10: the early two thousands. But to your point about what

1264
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 10: do they need to do against Denver, there's so many

1265
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 10: so I think the main thing is learn how to

1266
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 10: win in crunch times.

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Speaker 4: Yes, what you've.

1268
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Speaker 10: Seen these games where they've lost the past eight games

1269
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 10: with the playoff series, these three games in this regular season,

1270
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 10: some of them have been competitive until playoffs or until

1271
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 10: crunch time in the final five minutes. I think so

1272
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,959
Speaker 10: much of the score has been a combined fifty three

1273
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 10: to twenty five. What does that mean. Well, yes, Nicoley, Jokinchin,

1274
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 10: Jamal Murray have been money during that time, but I

1275
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 10: think it's shown that they've benefited from their continuity and

1276
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 10: their depth much more than the Lakers have. But while

1277
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 10: context matters as far as injuries, and they hadn't had

1278
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 10: their full starting lineup figured out yet, at that point,

1279
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 10: they have to be able to adapt to the fact

1280
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 10: that the Nuggets are a well oiled machine and they

1281
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 10: know what to do when the clock kicks down in

1282
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 10: crunch time. So that will be the ultimate litmus test

1283
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 10: on whether the Lakers can somehow upset the Nuggets, if

1284
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 10: they can at least make the series competitive, or heaven forbid,

1285
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 10: if the Nuggets wind up sweeping them again for the

1286
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 10: second consecutive season.

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Speaker 3: Mike, I got one more question for you. We're gonna

1288
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Speaker 3: go to the East. Is it the Celtics, you know,

1289
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 3: championship on the East to lose? Can anyone really give

1290
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: them a run for their money?

1291
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Speaker 10: Not an Eastern Conferences the Celics and everyone else. The

1292
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 10: Celtics have been a well oiled machine, one of the

1293
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 10: best starting wind up Jason Tatum more efficient as a

1294
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 10: score but a really good passer. Christosperzingis Jalen Brown Gray chemistry.

1295
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 10: You look at the rest of the East. The Knicks

1296
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 10: don't have Julius Randall. The Bucks have been an underachieving

1297
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 10: hot mess and yeah, there's some good other teams with Philadelphia, Cleveland, Orlando,

1298
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 10: but they just don't have the same caliber as Boston.

1299
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Speaker 2: Those Yeah, the mere presidence of Doc Rivers on the

1300
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: bench eliminates Milwaukeey compete. We all love Doc, but I'm

1301
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Speaker 2: sorry he's the only coach ever to blow three wins

1302
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: series ly three times.

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Speaker 4: By the way, guess who just went to the locker

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Speaker 4: room with an injury?

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01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: Embeed emdeed, and all of a sudden, the Nicks are

1306
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 2: ten with a minute to go in the first half.

1307
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 4: So that didn't take long.

1308
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: And Beat it's in the locker room with some injury

1309
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: undisclosed injury, and all of a sudden, the Knicks are

1310
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: running the sixers right off the court. Mark great stuff, man.

1311
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: We well hope for some competitive series. I'm asked us

1312
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: if the Lakers lose tonight, the series is going to

1313
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: be a short series. But if they they can win

1314
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: game one, steal a game, maybe we'll get a series

1315
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: that we can talk about. That would be nice. Mark

1316
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: great Stuff is always man. We appreciate your time.

1317
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 10: Monte Savior. The best love shown hoop with you.

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Speaker 4: We'll do it.

1319
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: There is Mark Mendina right there, our NBA insider here

1320
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio.

1321
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Speaker 4: All right, let's find out what is a trending right now.

1322
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: Kevin Wired is back and we got a lot of

1323
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 2: things on the scoreboard today.

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Speaker 6: keV, Yeah, what has happened at to the Philadelphia seventy

1325
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 6: six ers. They were out in front much of this

1326
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 6: first half, but now the New York Knicks ahead by

1327
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 6: double digits fifty seven to forty six as they are

1328
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 6: approaching halftime at Madison Square Garden. Jalen Brunson the only

1329
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 6: actually he's one of two players for the Nicks in

1330
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 6: double figures. He has eleven points, and we also have

1331
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 6: Miles McBride who has sixteen points off of five to

1332
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 6: seven shooting. So he's made a big difference coming off

1333
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 6: the bench for New York, who otherwise has struggled shooting

1334
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 6: the ball. But really where they've had the advantage, they've

1335
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 6: shot ten more free throws than Philadelphia has his own.

1336
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 6: They've also taken a better care of the basketball six

1337
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 6: to three turnover advantage for New York through the first half.

1338
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 6: Earlier today, the Timberwolves pull away to blow out the

1339
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 6: Phoenix Suns one twenty ninety five to take a one game,

1340
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 6: ten to done series lead. In that first round Western

1341
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 6: Conference matchup, Anthony Edwards a big game thirty three points,

1342
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 6: was a little quiet in that first half, but really

1343
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 6: came on strong in the second twenty four minutes. He

1344
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 6: also had nine rebounds six assists. Carl Anthony Towns nineteen

1345
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 6: points to go along with seven rebounds four assists. Rudy

1346
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 6: Gobert a double double. Kevin Durant seeming like he's doing

1347
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 6: most of the work by himself today as he had

1348
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 6: thirty one points for Phoenix seven rebounds as well, but

1349
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 6: no one else had more than eighteen Devin Booker at eighteen,

1350
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 6: Bradley Beale had fifteen, and then off the bench you

1351
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 6: had Royce O'Neill who had fourteen points. No one else

1352
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 6: in double figures for Phoenix. While the Timberwolves getting a

1353
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 6: much more balanced attack offensively, and the Cavaliers smothered the

1354
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 6: Magic ninety seven to eighty three, Orlando just thirty two

1355
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 6: percent shooting for the day, they were eight to thirty

1356
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 6: seven from beyond the three point arcd Ono the Mitchell

1357
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 6: thirty points, also had himself a three assists and three steals.

1358
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 6: Evan Mobley sixteen points eleven rebounds, had himself a strong

1359
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 6: first half to up pace the Cavaliers to their one

1360
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 6: nothing first round series advantage. Coming up later tonight eight

1361
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 6: thirty is the scheduled tip off for the Lakers and Nuggets,

1362
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 6: LA looking for their first win against Denver in four

1363
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 6: hundred and ninety days, and some news from Adrian war

1364
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 6: Janowski saying that it's increasingly in doubt that Kawhi Leonard

1365
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 6: will play for the LA Clippers tomorrow against the Mavericks.

1366
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 6: So it seems like a same thing different here for

1367
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 6: the Clips show.

1368
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: Well, and again, here's the problem. As we were just

1369
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: talking with Mark Medina. You're committed for the next three

1370
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: years to Kawhi Okay, you've extended his deal. Now Paul

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: George has a player option. We've seen enough of Paul

1372
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: George and Kawhi Leonard, have we not? Over several years now?

1373
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: The idea that you basically mortgage the entire future in

1374
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: terms of the draft in order to get the guy

1375
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: that Kawhi Leonard wanted.

1376
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: Who was Paul George?

1377
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: And where are they? I know where they are. They're

1378
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: in Idol is where they are. It's it's the same

1379
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: every year.

1380
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: It really is the same every year. It's very frustrating.

1381
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1382
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: And who's going to want to Who are if not

1383
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: Paul George, if not James Harden, who else would you

1384
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: bring in? Who would want to hitch their wagon to

1385
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard if he can't stay healthy.

1386
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 3: No, it's a fair question.

1387
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,959
Speaker 6: I mean that was the second Big three they brought

1388
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 6: in too. I mean after the Chris Paul DeAndre, Jordan

1389
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 6: Blake Griffin's team, and it seemed like Kawhi Leonard he

1390
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 6: was looked like he was going to go to the

1391
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 6: Lakers that offseason, as I recall, and then at the

1392
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 6: last minute it said, no, I'm going to the Clippers.

1393
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 5: Then he helped him.

1394
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: The reason the reason he went to the Clippers is

1395
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 2: they gave him what he won. Yeah, he said, George,

1396
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 2: that way, they give up seven picks. Yeah, it was crazy.

1397
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 6: So that came right after basically the disbandman of the

1398
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 6: prior Big Three. So the idea, at least for the

1399
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 6: Clippers was We're going to keep this going, build off

1400
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 6: what we have. And they didn't get to a Western

1401
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 6: Conference finals for the first time in their history. So

1402
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 6: I guess he can't say they didn't accomplish anything, but

1403
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 6: I know that there were a lot higher expectations for

1404
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 6: the Clippers when they did sign them and make that

1405
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 6: trade for Paul George So And then of course when

1406
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 6: James Harden came this year, they thought, okay, that would

1407
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 6: be the final piece to put him over the top.

1408
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know who thought that. I mean, based

1409
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: on what I mean, James Harden doesn't have any rings.

1410
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: Neither is Paul j thinking. I'm saying that's what people

1411
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: were saying.

1412
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 4: I mean, they were hoping that it was going to

1413
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 4: be the case.

1414
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 3: I missed Lob City.

1415
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: Hey, well that was you know again. But here's the

1416
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 4: whole thing.

1417
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: When they replaced Vinnie Del Negro with Doc Rivers and nothing,

1418
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: they were like this fifty win team that was you know,

1419
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: it was you know there, they're decent team. And then

1420
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, just Lob City that was

1421
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: our prime. But I agree with Mark when he says,

1422
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: when you're moving into a new arena.

1423
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 4: You need a star. Yeah, to put butts in seats,

1424
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 4: and kawhy is that? Kwhy is a great, great, great.

1425
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: Player, the best player on the court. When he wants

1426
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 3: to be he's the best.

1427
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 6: But yeah, what do you did with Toronto, especially defensively?

1428
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 6: That was outstand Okay, that.

1429
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 4: Was a long time ago, long time ago.

1430
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: That was it was five years ago. That long in

1431
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: the world of sports. Yes, that's the stone age. That

1432
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: was back in twenty nineteen. A long time all.

1433
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 4: Right, thank you very much, Kevin.

1434
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: By the way, one team that had a very quick

1435
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: exit from the playoffs was the Golden State Warriors. They

1436
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 2: got blown out by Sacramento. I felt terrible for Klay

1437
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: Thompson for ten zero points and what could well be

1438
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: his last game. He made forty three million. Give the

1439
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: Warriors credit. They hung in there. He missed two full seasons,

1440
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: came back, helped them win that championship. His numbers were

1441
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: decent this year. He has value on the market, but

1442
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: he is he's an outright free agent. I know his

1443
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: father well and he would love to see him in

1444
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: a Lakers uniform next year.

1445
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 4: But that was a tough way to go.

1446
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: But at certain points, as we talk about, you have

1447
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: to say, all right, are we going to stay with us?

1448
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: Do we still believe this team has what it takes

1449
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: to win a championship, or do you blow it up.

1450
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: At the same time, if you're the Warriors, you need

1451
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: Steph Kerr. Yeah, you can't let him go. You can't

1452
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: let him go. And that's the same thing with the

1453
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: Lakers and Lebron. Yeah, I mean, and right now he's

1454
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: got a player option coming up.

1455
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: Lebron is holding them hostage. Roe Clay is one player

1456
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: you feel I feel so bad for Imagine being a

1457
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 3: player that was a top with him and kurtwo they

1458
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 3: were the Splash Brothers, right, top five for sure, top ten.

1459
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 3: Getting injured and never getting back to that that has

1460
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,480
Speaker 3: to be psychological.

1461
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: He came back even though it was not the same player.

1462
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: He won a championship, yes, a couple of years ago.

1463
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,440
Speaker 3: But now after another injury, he has not even sniffed

1464
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 3: what he was before. No, that's gotta be psychologically, really

1465
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: really hard.

1466
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 2: He's a role player now, he's still a guy that

1467
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: is a higher gun off the bench. Yes, and if

1468
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 2: I were the Lakers, I would do anything I could

1469
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: with his championship pedigree and still the ability because forget

1470
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: the over ten. At the end of the year he

1471
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: was he was shooting well well over forty percent threes,

1472
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: which is his norm. In the last quarter of the season.

1473
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: Remember the Warriors finished strong and then unfortunately laid an

1474
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 2: egg in that playing game against Sacramento.

1475
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you that he still has value

1476
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 3: the Lakers. They could go for him, But the Lakers

1477
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: need like a like a point, They need a playmaker.

1478
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 3: They need somebody that can play off of Lebron a

1479
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 3: little bit, controlling the tempo. And I don't Clay is

1480
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: not that. Clay, like you said, is going to be

1481
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: a role player and that he can have a lot

1482
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: of success with that. Obviously, I'm not saying the Lakers

1483
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 3: shouldn't go for him. That would be a nice pickup

1484
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 3: for them. I think Lebron, though, is holding the Lakers hostage,

1485
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: and not just because of his player option coming up,

1486
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 3: but because of Bronnie James.

1487
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: Well, if they get swept in this series, if they

1488
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: continue their winless ways against the Nuggets, you got some

1489
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: serious soul searching to do.

1490
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 3: It's that going anywhere?

1491
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's got a player option, that's his option,

1492
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: And where does he want to go for he wants

1493
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: to stay in LA.

1494
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: He wants to stay in LA. That's how he's not

1495
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 3: gonna go.

1496
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 4: La works for him.

1497
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, all right on the other side, We're going

1498
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: to talk about a franchise. We got problems. Oh, we've

1499
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: got problems. In fact, a legendary sports franchise has made

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01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: history of sorts. We'll tell you which one. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, montsu Belagos Here, Fox Sports Saturday.

1502
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 2: We're coming alive from the tairaq dot com studios.

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 4: I want to thank our crew today.

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 2: Kevin Wyer was here, kid, and he had a lot

1505
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: to say today on a very very busy day.

1506
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 3: And we lot to say about the Clippers.

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01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 4: Of course.

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01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: Patrick is our brilliant producer. Patrick, very busy, very quick

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Speaker 2: two hours today, very quick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it just seemed like we just got started here.

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: Time flies and we're all having fun right exactly.

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 4: See Hi to your dad, of course I'll let him

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: know right now, at least tell them I'm.

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 2: Mary mac is just having the best time being twenty.

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01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: That's where this is at, right.

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Speaker 5: Love life, it's so beautiful. She comes in.

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01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: She says, I love life right now. I said, those

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01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: are the best words anybody can say. Of course I

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01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 4: And your new dude is amazing at the blonde. I

1521
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 4: think it's the blonde look at that.

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Speaker 3: It's fired twenty.

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01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 4: One works, huh. I like that? Excellent?

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: Well, Mary Mamcot is great to have you here as

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01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: every single Saturday, all right, History made today of sorts

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01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: by the team that spent one point three billion dollars

1527
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 2: in new contracts during the offseason. That would be the

1528
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers. A nine game homestand that will conclude tomorrow.

1529
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: They lost two out of three to the Podres, two

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01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 2: out of three to the Nationals, and they just lost

1531
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: again today, meaning at the best they are going to

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 2: lose two out of three to the Mets. Now, you

1533
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: had a stat the last time they had a nine

1534
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: game series at home and did not win a single

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01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: series at home?

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had. I said it to you on the break,

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: and I you know, had to double check because it's

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: hard to believe it. They have not lost three series

1539
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 3: in a single homestand since two thousand and five, Steve, Yeah,

1540
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 3: since two thousand and five and.

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,799
Speaker 2: Two thousand and five, I can guarantee you the payroll

1542
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: isn't anywhere near.

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 3: No, no, not as well.

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01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: I mean, even looking at today, if you the Dodgers

1545
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: are twelve and eleven, eight and eight at home, Yeah.

1546
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: So they've had sixteen of their first twenty three games

1547
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 2: at home, so normally you would thought, you know, Bets

1548
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: is sitting three fifty six, so Tani's hitting three fifty nine.

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01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 3: Freddy came back to life today.

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01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: Freddie get Freddy finally, Well he's he has one home

1551
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: run in twenty three games. Yeah, but his slugging percentage

1552
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: is three fifty seven. And this is a guy who's

1553
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 2: in the mid fives every single year. You look at

1554
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: his numbers since he came to the Dodgers, after all

1555
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: those great years of the Braves. This guy's got a

1556
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: ticket punch to the Hall of Fame. Now, today showed

1557
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: some live a couple of walks, a couple of hits,

1558
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: three runs batted in. But he's got to get.

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 4: That back going.

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: The problem is the bottom of this lineup. It looks awful. Autman,

1561
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 2: no rookie sensation last year. He struck out three times today,

1562
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: so and the Dodgers pitching looks mediocre at best.

1563
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 3: It is a combination of problems right now for the Dodgers.

1564
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 3: It's not good. I know, it's the beginning of the season,

1565
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: so you don't want to overreact and you don't want

1566
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: to get emotional, but it's difficult not to get like that,

1567
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 3: even though I know it's only April. In today's game,

1568
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 3: the Dodgers had six hits, six hits. Four of those

1569
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: hits came from betts Otani and Freeman. Everybody else there

1570
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: was only two hits, one James outwin and one Gavin

1571
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 3: Lux was one for five. It's almost like teams are

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 3: coming up and they're realizing, all right, once we get

1573
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 3: past bets Otani and Freeman, that's it. We're good.

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01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 2: All right, here's a bigger problem to me. Eight pitchers today, yeah,

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 2: eight pictures. We're in April. You are burning through your

1576
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: bullpen at a feverish pace. I remember a year ago

1577
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: with the Podreys, or two years ago with the Podres,

1578
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: when the Dodgers lost to the Podres in the postseason.

1579
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: And they went in.

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01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: Bob Melvin came in as the new manager. And I'll

1581
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 2: never forget this because his predecessor, Andy Green was notorious

1582
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: for burning his bullpen out by the end of me.

1583
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: And so early in that year, Bob Melvin said, I

1584
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: don't care if we're down for nothing.

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01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: You're giving me six. You're giving me six.

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01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 2: And if you go back to that playoff series when

1587
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: the Padres upset the Dodgers. It was the Potter's bullpen

1588
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: that was lights out. You can't burn through your bullpen.

1589
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, they were trying anything to win today's game.

1590
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: I get it, but you can't do this every day.

1591
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: You need to get innings out of your starters. And

1592
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: you know, Walker Buehler had another rehab start.

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01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 4: And then they said he needs another one. Yeah.

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01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, how many more rehabs starts are going to

1595
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: get before Walker Buhley gets back into the rotation. So

1596
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: they need to get their rotation healthy and they need

1597
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: to get innings out of your starters.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you, Steve, but you know what,

1599
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,480
Speaker 3: this isn't just the Dodgers. I just feel like in general,

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01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: Baseball right now is doing this with their pictures. It

1601
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 3: sucks to see it. The Mets used six pitchers today.

1602
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: It's I don't I agree. I am with you one

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 3: hundred on this. It just seems that that is a

1604
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 3: direction that baseball is going, coddling the arm, keeping it

1605
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: minimal so that I don't know why. I don't know why, Steve,

1606
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: but this seems to be the new trend and I

1607
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 3: hate it. I don't like it.

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01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 4: I don't again, it only makes sense.

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 2: And I've said this for you ever since this's changed,

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01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: this whole idea of you know, getting five or five

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01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: innings out of your starter and then bringing in a

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01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: sixth inning guy, seventh inning guy, an eighth inn guy,

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01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: ninth innen guy.

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01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 4: What are the chances all five of them are going

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01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 4: to have a good day?

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01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: How many times have we seen four of the five

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01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: have a good day? One guy has a bad adding

1619
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: and lose the game. And the and the stats do not.

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 2: You go back in the days when pitchers are actually

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01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: throwing complete games, and if you look at their collective

1622
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: ninth inning er a, when guys are throwing complete games,

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01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 2: it was lower than it is now. When you have

1624
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: these so called win inning specialists closing out these games.

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01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: It just again, it's just it doesn't make sense on

1626
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: the the analytics, I don't get it. We're the idea

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01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: that you just have these guys throw as hard as

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: they can for as long as they can, and then

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01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: what do you get Tommy John Surgery's all over the place.

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01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, now it's common to have two to It's like

1631
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 3: we keep falling.

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01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: We've had pictures falling all over the place left Why

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01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 2: because they're throwing one hundred miles an hour, trying to

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01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: on every pitch.

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 3: There's so many factors really that go into this pitching

1636
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 3: phenomenon that is happening right now. But I it takes

1637
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: away from the game when there is eight pictures in

1638
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: one and you're just using them for half of an inning.

1639
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 3: It takes away the excitement for me.

1640
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 4: When is your next touring of Dodgers?

1641
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: Saying we tour every day every day, single day. Really,

1642
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 3: unless you know Billy Joel comes and has a concert. Really,

1643
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 3: it's only time we don't when there's like a concert,

1644
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 3: and it's just because we're in the way for them.

1645
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna have to do.

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01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to do that tour with you,

1647
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: and I won't even say a word. I won't even

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01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: say you came in here. Much more coming up this

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio.