1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,759 Speaker 1: Sam is on the phone today for our first day 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: follow up, and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Lilah. 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: if she can tell us why she's ghosting him, and 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: also maybe get him a second date if he still 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: wants one. But before we do that, Sam, how long 7 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: has it been since you last talked to Lila? 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Oh, it's been about a couple of weeks. 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: I guess a couple of weeks. Okay, that's that's a while. Yeah, yeah, 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 3: why do you want to get a hold of out 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: a few weeks? Like any efficiency? 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 4: I think for me it's it's just getting some sort 13 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 4: of answer. You feel like you're kind of left with 14 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 4: no closure. And maybe I'm one of those people, but 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 4: I don't know. I always feel like I need some 16 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 4: sort of that need to make sense, you know. 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, especially when you think something went 18 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: really well. So why don't you tell us about the date? 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I met Lilah on bumble, you know, just swiping, and. 21 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: Uh, it was great. I really liked her based on 22 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: her profile. 23 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: She seems really grounded at Dorsy and she had a dog, 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: which I do, so I thought, great connection. Yeah right, exactly, 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: like an easy kind of you know, sort of shorthand anyway, 26 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 4: I thought it was great. 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: So we went and wanted to go on a. 28 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: Date and she said yes, and anyway, that's that's how 29 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: that got started. 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: And then what. 31 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: And then yes, yeah, I left you. 32 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: And so basically I thought about the dog situation being 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: such an organic way to kind of connect. So I said, 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: let's go to the dog park. And we went to 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 4: this beautiful park and the dogs kind of ran around, 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: had a good time. 37 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: They seemed like they really got along. 38 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: It was a nice day date, very PG safe, everybody's happy, 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: doesn't feel like any sort of like you know, no 40 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: one's trying to do anything, just meeting the dogs. 41 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: We went on the park with the dogs. 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: And then yeah, and as I felt it was doing 43 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: really well, I said, you know, there's a little brewery 44 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 4: in a patio down the street and it's a sunny 45 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: day and everybody's chilling out and we started playing old corn. 46 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: Hole and uh, you know, just is a pool table 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: as well inside and we just we. 48 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: Said all yeah, and the dogs were it was a 49 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: dog's friendly place, so like they brought up little dog 50 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: water bowls and so here's though, Here's where I'm getting 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 4: to is that I think the only reason I could 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: come up with it might have caused any I don't know, 53 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 4: any ghosting or any of this whatever's going on here. 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: My dog really like liked Lila's dog a lot more 55 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: than I liked Lilah. I mean, the dog was obsessed 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: with her dog, and it was like it was getting 57 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: a little funky, like he would start humping the dog 58 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: and just he was just humping her dog a lot, 59 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: and I thought it was kind of funny. 60 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: So I was an. 61 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: Awkward I was just like, yeah, that's whatever. It's dog, 62 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 4: he's fixed anyway. It doesn't even doesn't mean anything. I mean, 63 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to my dog is maybe thinking for me, 64 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. But long story short, this this kept 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: going on, and Lilac she's kind of looked at me, 66 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: and I was. 67 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: Like, I got it. I got it. 68 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: She definitely seemed annoyed, but I was thinking, like, okay, playful, 69 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 4: it's okay annoyed but not pissed. So we started kind 70 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: of talking about what our goals are in life and 71 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: what our families do, and I just thought there was 72 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: such a real chemistry. 73 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: You know. 74 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: So I asked her basically what her family does, and 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: she wanted to know what mine did, and I decided, 76 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of a funky business that my 77 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: family does. It's interesting anyway, and so I said, why 78 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: don't you guess? So we started playing this kind of 79 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: cute guessing game, and I told her I inherited the 80 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: family business. So that's where I left her, but I 81 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: kept it really cryptic with some clues. I was like, yeah, 82 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: there's always a continuing business. It's always kind of built in, 83 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: you'll never run out of it. These were my clues, 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: and I kind of got to a place where we 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: were sort of getting it, and long story short, I 86 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: just kind of got to a place with the dogs 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: and I felt like I've tolt a little response and 88 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: explained that I'll be more careful next time about the dogs. 89 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: And the time of the date went on and we 90 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: left in good turns. 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's something about the game. I don't know. 92 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Sam is on the phone, and Sam's getting ghosted by 93 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: a woman named Lila. So we're about to call her 94 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him 95 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: and maybe get him a second date. But before we 96 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: do that, Sam, why don't you break down your situation 97 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: again real quick. 98 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. We met on a dating app. 99 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: She was really cute. I loved her dog, my dog, 100 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: really loved her dog. We went on a great little 101 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: dog part date, took it to a brewery. My dog 102 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: is a little awkward, did a little bit too much 103 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: something on her dog, and basically at the end of 104 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: the date we were playing a bit of a guessing 105 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: game as to what my family business was, and left 106 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: on a pretty good note, I thought, and here we are. 107 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: I just hadn't heard from her in like two weeks. 108 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: Now, all right, you're ready for a scholar? Yeah, oh yeah, please, okay, 109 00:04:53,160 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: here we go. Hello, Hi man, I speak Tolilah, please speaking? 110 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: Hey Lila, how are you? This is a radio show. 111 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: It's called The Jubil Show. Hi, Lila Ana, Hi, I'm Victoria. 112 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: And my name is Jubal. What's going on? 113 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh? Hi? 114 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 5: Hi? 115 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard the show before? 116 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 5: Pop up on my TikTok sometimes? 117 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: Oh cool? Oh nice, that's cool. So you you have 118 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: heard of the show me? 119 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: So that's weird. Yeah. 120 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well we're calling you because we do a segment 121 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: on the show called the first date follow up. That's 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: where if you go out on a date with somebody 123 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: and you would up ghosting them, they can email us 124 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: to get you on the phone and ask why you're 125 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: ghosting them. 126 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 127 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 5: Oh so we're like on right now. 128 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and Sam Sam emailed us. Uh huh, Sam 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: told us. 130 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: A little bit about your date and uh, just wondering 131 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: why are you ghosting? 132 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: Would you mind telling guys? 133 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 5: Yeah? Sure, I mean truthfully, yeah, it's it's really just 134 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: about his work. You know, he runs his family business, 135 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: and good for him. It's a successful business, but it 136 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 5: is a mortuary, and I just I don't do dead people. 137 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to be with somebody who comes home 138 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: to me after, you know, handling dead people all day. 139 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: You know. Yeah, that's really it. 140 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: Well, so I said, he works at a mortuary. You 141 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: don't want to do a dude that handles dead people. 142 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: No, I do not do dead people. 143 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 5: Watch scary movies like no. 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. I thought he kind of runs across this 145 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: a lot. I feel like it would be kind of 146 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: a weird thing. I mean, that's a family business. He 147 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: could make good money. 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 149 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: I mean maybe I'm crazy. But for me, it's like 150 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: an energy thing, like if you're around dead people all day, 151 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: like spirits can attach to you and stuff, and I 152 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: just like I don't want to risk it. 153 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: I want to deal with that. 154 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: Like if if I was in a scary movie, I'd 155 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: be the girl that like, first sign of something crazy, 156 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: I'd be like I'm out and I would survive. 157 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, so this is your survival movie right now. 158 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: Nobody pulled out parrot cards. I'm out, Like I'm out, 159 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: Like they don't mess with this stuff, you know. 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, well, thank you for telling us. I I 161 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And just to let you know, Sam is 162 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: actually on the phone and wants to talk to you. 163 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right now, I mean you go to 164 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: me over over that, you go to me that, Yeah 165 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: what you I mean, really you should have just mentioned 166 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: that bother you guys could. 167 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: Explain it to you a little better. I don't. 168 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: No, I mean, your dog wouldn't stop helping my dog. 169 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: But like I can get over that. But like I 170 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: just I don't do dead people. Like I don't have 171 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 5: a better way to put that. But like I don't 172 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: want I don't want to be in a relationship with 173 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: someone who is around dead people all day, Like just 174 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: thinking about it makes me uncomfortable, like they're gonna I 175 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 5: just like I can't stop, Like I couldn't stop picturing it, 176 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 5: Like I have this honestly, I have a fear of 177 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: dead bodies even like like I'm actually afraid of zombies, 178 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: Like I know they're not real, but I don't think 179 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: they're impossible to become real, you know, like when there's 180 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 5: no room lesson how they're going to the earth. You know, 181 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,119 Speaker 5: I can't get over it. 182 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: Wow, that's what this is not. This is not the 183 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: Walking Dead. It's not sure the Walking Dead. It's none 184 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: of those shows. 185 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: This is Listen. 186 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: It's a respectful about the profession. My family's been in 187 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: it for a century. 188 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: And it's about money too, Like let me, let me 189 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: be honest with you, Like my family's unloaded. 190 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: And it's just demand. There's always going to be a 191 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: returning customers, you know what I mean? 192 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: Like that, spirits don't care. Spirits don't care about your 193 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: bank account like you. 194 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: That's crazy thought, you got it. 195 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: You gotta maybe get. 196 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: Some sage or some Pelissonto and you know, cleaning your house. 197 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like you know that says nothing to 198 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: do with me. Energy doesn't stick on people like that. 199 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: Listen, No, I'm telling you. I got and I went 200 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 5: to turn off the light in the bathroom and it 201 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 5: like burnt out and it was so loud and it 202 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: was away. It was like dramatic in a way. That 203 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: light's going out just isn't like I'm knowing you. This 204 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: was the universe is telling me not to mess with this. 205 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: That's well right, yeah, That's. 206 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: What I'm trying to say. Is a coincidence though, coincidence. 207 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 4: We had such a great chemistry, and I just want 208 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: to think, like, what if we go back and started again. 209 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: No dogs, no talk of what my family businesses. 210 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: Or work, just like a normal chill date. 211 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 5: You after you've been breathing and get the boy zombie 212 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: air all day. Come on, I can't do it? 213 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: Well, oh well, are you sure, Lila? Would you like 214 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: another date with Sam? Will pay for it? 215 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: No, I'm sorry, I just like I can't do it. 216 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 5: I I there are people that won't care about this, 217 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: and I cannot get past this. 218 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 4: Are you really going to say no to a hot, 219 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: rich once in a lifetime kind of man because you're 220 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 4: scared of some zombies. 221 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: I mean, don't get us. 222 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 5: Say how much money in your brain now morning? 223 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Okay, they don't you know. I mean, honestly all the 224 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: brains are for me. Then I'll eat all the brains. 225 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 3: All right, your brain's alone, Sam, I'm sorry, makes a 226 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: weird bro. Jubile's first Date follow up