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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike, and I am fired up

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Speaker 1: about this week's episode because I am talking to director

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Speaker 1: on hell Manuel Soto about Blue Beetle. What went into

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Speaker 1: directing this movie, one of my favorite movies of the

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Speaker 2: In a long time.

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Speaker 1: In the movie review, we'll be talking about the three

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Speaker 1: and a half hour long Killers of the Flower Moon.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey will hop in and review that with me so

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Speaker 1: she can give her perspective after reading the book and

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Speaker 1: watching the movie. And in the trailer park we have

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Speaker 1: the first look at a spicy R rated rom com

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Speaker 1: Anyone but You, coming out in December. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here, Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie crew.

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Speaker 1: And now let's talk movies.

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Speaker 3: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like

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Speaker 2: A man with so much movie knowledge.

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Speaker 3: He's basically like a walking IMTV with glasses.

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Speaker 2: From the Nashville Podcast Network.

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Speaker 4: This is Movie Mike's Movie Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I got to get into my conversation with anhell Manuel Soto,

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Speaker 1: who is the director of Blue Beetle, a movie that,

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Speaker 1: if you listen to this podcast that heard my review,

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Speaker 1: was one that really resonated with me this summer because

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Speaker 1: it was a reflection of my culture and being in

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Speaker 1: my thirties. Now it's the first time I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: a superhero that looks like me. I didn't realize until

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Speaker 1: later in life how much representation was important in film,

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Speaker 1: because just growing up, I wasn't used to seeing anybody

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Speaker 1: on screen that reflected where I came from, my parents,

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Speaker 1: the way we spoke that I didn't even realize it

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Speaker 1: could be a thing. So I'm really excited to talk

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Speaker 1: to him because I want to know what went into

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Speaker 1: making these decisions when it comes to how Mexican do

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Speaker 1: you want to make this movie? And if you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen Blue Beetle at this point, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you're waiting for. It's available now on digital and it's

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Speaker 1: coming out on four k UltraHD on October thirty first,

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Speaker 1: So you got to check out this movie, but you

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Speaker 1: don't need to have seen it to enjoy this interview.

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Speaker 1: We won't spoil anything for you, but let's get into

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Speaker 1: it now. My interview with the director.

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Speaker 2: Of blue beetles.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Something they mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Before we got on this interview was the pronunciation of

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Speaker 1: your name, and they got me to thinking, did you

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Speaker 1: draw a personal experience in the movie when they keep

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Speaker 1: calling him alone, they keep calling them Jamie, and they're.

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Speaker 4: Like, we we had to like that. That's something that's

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Speaker 4: him Jamie And it happened during production. It happen all

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Speaker 4: the time. They happen some interviews and I'm like, see

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Speaker 4: it happens, you know, and it happened to me, Like, uh,

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Speaker 4: my wife always makes fun of me because at first

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Speaker 4: I used to lose patience, but then I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's what it is because it's Anghil, And they'll be like,

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Speaker 4: can you say that again? Anghil and Ahil? How do

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Speaker 4: you spell it? Like angel? Oh? Angel? Like it doesn't work.

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Speaker 4: Repeating funatics doesn't work for everybody. So I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 4: just tell me whatever you want as long as you're

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Speaker 1: I feel on a personal level because my real name

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Speaker 1: like just speaking to me and that was one in particular,

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Speaker 1: and even with them, you know, thinking that he is

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that's uh, that happened to me. I'm the writer.

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Speaker 1: Much like the scare of chose Himen in this movie

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Speaker 1: to become the Blue Beatle.

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Speaker 2: You chose to be the Blue Beetle.

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Speaker 1: What is that feeling like to let an actor know

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Speaker 4: I think Walt Hamada was the one that told me that,

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Speaker 4: with this. You know, it's not just a movie. It's like,

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Speaker 4: what this he means to a culture in commercial cinema

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Speaker 4: So that jump is massive, But I knew that he

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Speaker 4: And so when the opportunity came for me, it was

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Speaker 4: He was already known for Cobra Kai uh, and he's

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Speaker 4: me that you know, Hi, metrios Iss.

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Speaker 1: You reference the comic there, which because of the movie

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Speaker 1: now I am so into learning everything about Blue Beetle.

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Speaker 1: I honor all of this but also create my own

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Speaker 4: Man that I have to give credit? What credits to do?

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Speaker 4: And that's one of the amazing words that come from

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Speaker 4: one of Blue Beetles Biggas fan, and that's our writer,

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Speaker 4: Guarded Tone Arcossene. We knew we had to choose the

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Speaker 4: how can we take the things that we like the

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Speaker 4: how can we protect the things that work already from

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Speaker 1: This is the only movie that I've seen twice in

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Speaker 2: She does not like superhero movies whatsoever. She grew up in.

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Speaker 2: Did that feel like a bit of a risk.

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Speaker 4: I don't see it as a risk. I don't know

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Speaker 4: It would be better in Spanish. We didn't do the

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank you for creating a story

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Speaker 4: Well again, like you know, the same way that we

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense to me. We listen to it,

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Speaker 4: But you know what, there's other music too, man, You know,

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Speaker 4: So for me, it was about let us show the

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've gotten a lot more into.

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Speaker 1: Rom coms lately because of Kelsey that is one of

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Speaker 1: her favorite genres. But I am so open minded now

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Speaker 1: about any kind of genre movie that I watch, because one,

442
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Speaker 1: I have this podcast, and I feel like any movie

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Speaker 1: I watch can turn into some kind of content for

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Speaker 1: this show. But mainly because I want to be exposed

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Speaker 1: to everything. I want to experience and feel everything, and

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Speaker 1: if I limit myself in any way, I'm doing a

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Speaker 1: disservice to myself and a disservice to you. So I

448
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Speaker 1: also encourage you in not only the movies I talk about,

449
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Speaker 1: but other movies you see people you know sharing on

450
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Speaker 1: social media or seeing a promo for if it's not

451
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Speaker 1: your cup of tea, just by the promo that you

452
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Speaker 1: think maybe there's something in that character that I could

453
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Speaker 1: learn from and experience something. I say, give it a chance.

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Speaker 1: But I would also say, coming from my own personal

455
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Speaker 1: experience of only really using movies and film as therapy,

456
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Speaker 1: you really have something going on in your life, I

457
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Speaker 1: advise you to seek out somebody to talk to and

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Speaker 1: don't be ashamed of it. And going back to talking

459
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Speaker 1: about Blue Beetle and my Mexican parents, I think that's

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Speaker 1: another thing. It's just hard for people from my culture

461
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Speaker 1: to talk openly about feelings and openly about your mental

462
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Speaker 1: health because I think growing up, we were so focused

463
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Speaker 1: on just staying healthy as far as not having to

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Speaker 1: go to the hospital, not having to take some kind

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Speaker 1: of medication to get us through the day.

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Speaker 2: That we kind of pushed all those mental health problems

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Speaker 2: to the bottom.

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Speaker 1: And I found myself digging around in VHS and DBD

469
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Speaker 1: stacks to try to find somebody to tell me that

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Speaker 1: it's okay to be like the characters and movies and

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Speaker 1: have emotional issues and work through those things. Because just

472
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Speaker 1: like while watching a movie, I want to see some

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Speaker 1: character development and see somebody go through.

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Speaker 2: And learn things.

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Speaker 1: I think I need to apply that to my own life.

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Speaker 1: We would I say about my own character development, my

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Speaker 1: own story arc. So that is all I wanted to

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Speaker 1: share with you today. Come back, Kelsey will hop in.

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Speaker 1: We'll give our review on Killers of the Flower Moon

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Speaker 1: whether or not it was worth the three and a

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Speaker 1: half hour runtime. After this, let's get into it now.

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Speaker 1: A spoiler free movie review of Killers of the Flower

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Speaker 1: Moon comes to us from director Martin Scorsese. The movie

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Speaker 1: is listed at three and a half hours, but we

485
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Speaker 1: actually found it's about three twenty. Not that it makes

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Speaker 1: it a whole lot better, like a whole lot easier

487
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Speaker 1: to take on. But I feel like going into this movie,

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Speaker 1: we kind of went into it with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of trepidation.

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Speaker 2: Just because of that length.

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Speaker 6: Right, it's very long. It seems very long. It doesn't

492
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Speaker 6: feel that long when you're watching.

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Speaker 1: It, it doesn't, But I feel feel like when you

494
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Speaker 1: go into a movie. I don't want to say dreading

495
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Speaker 1: it because I was excited for this movie. It's Martin Scurseasy,

496
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Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio.

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Speaker 2: It's the tenth film.

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Speaker 1: Nero he's done with de Niro, so we were both

499
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Speaker 1: excited going into it. You read the book, I didn't,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like a bit of it was just like,

501
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I gotta prepare myself to take on

502
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Speaker 1: this mental load of this movie.

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Speaker 2: But let's get into what this movie is about.

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Speaker 1: And again, I know it's based on true events, it's

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Speaker 1: based on the book, but I don't want to give

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Speaker 1: away the details that you learn about watching this movie

507
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: because I think just the way you take on this

508
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: story is very valuable to knowing nothing. Really a whole

509
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: lot going into it that the trailer didn't give us.

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Speaker 1: So that's all we'll speak about on the plot of

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Speaker 1: the movie. But it takes place in the nineteen twenties.

512
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Speaker 1: The members of the Osage Native American tribe were being murdered,

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Speaker 1: and the reason why is because they were living on

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Speaker 1: this land that was essentially described as the worst land ever.

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Speaker 1: But they found out that there was oil on this land,

516
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Speaker 1: so suddenly this is a lot of oil that yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: suddenly this land that was so terrible was now so

518
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Speaker 1: valuable because there was oil on it, and all the

519
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Speaker 1: members of the O Sage tribe got rich, really really rich.

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Speaker 1: In the movie at the beginning, it described them as

521
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Speaker 1: like the highest or the web per capita, and it's

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Speaker 1: incredible that they just are able to now live this

523
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Speaker 1: entirely different lifestyle. They have all this fancy jewelry, fancy cars,

524
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Speaker 1: and the roles are reversed in this town in Oklahoma,

525
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Speaker 1: where now these people who have been.

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Speaker 2: Stuck in this situation where.

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Speaker 1: They didn't really have a whole lot of money, whole

528
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Speaker 1: lot of power, now they were the ones with the

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Speaker 1: most power and the most money, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people living there who weren't a part of the tribe

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Speaker 1: didn't like it. They wanted that power back, they wanted

532
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Speaker 1: that money. They feel like they didn't earn that money.

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Speaker 1: So there was this dynamic that shifted. And where there

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Speaker 1: is money, there's gonna be corruption because you have the

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Speaker 1: character played by Robert.

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Speaker 2: De Niro who.

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Speaker 1: Is trying to get that money, and you have Leonardo

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Speaker 1: DiCaprio's character who plays his nephew who comes back from

539
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Speaker 1: war and he loves money.

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Speaker 2: That's his entire character trait in this movie. He just

541
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Speaker 2: loves money.

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Speaker 1: But then you have this family who at the center

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Speaker 1: of it all is Molly played by Lily Gladstone, who

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Speaker 1: was my favorite part of this entire.

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Speaker 6: Movie, Blow me Away, incredible, give her the oscar now.

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Speaker 1: And her family has a substantial amount of money, and

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Speaker 1: the way that people in this community who are not

548
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: a part of the o Stage tribe are trying to

549
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Speaker 1: get their money is essentially mixing all their families together.

550
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Speaker 1: So what you have in this movie, it's the story

551
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Speaker 1: of how these group of people, led by Robert de Niro,

552
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Speaker 1: try to take their money. What ends up happening is

553
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Speaker 1: all these murders start going down and there's no investigation,

554
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Speaker 1: nothing like it's crazy.

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Speaker 5: These people are dying, being like brutally murdered, and there

556
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Speaker 5: is just like a well, oh well, like that's how

557
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Speaker 5: the town responded to it.

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Speaker 1: Where it's a clear connection that it's because of their money. Essentially,

559
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Speaker 1: it is is why the FBI was created. But man,

560
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Speaker 1: I would say, the way to describe this movie and

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Speaker 1: its entire plot was kind of what they said in

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Speaker 1: the trailer, which is my favorite line of the entire.

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Speaker 4: Movie, can you find the wolves in this picture?

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Speaker 1: Can you find the wolves in this picture is essentially

565
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Speaker 1: what this movie is about. Where you have all these

566
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Speaker 1: people living in this community who all seem to be

567
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Speaker 1: friends to the Osage tribe, but behind their back, they're

568
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: not their friends whatsoever, and they just want their money.

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Speaker 1: So I think that is the overarching kind of theme

570
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Speaker 1: of this movie. Can you trust these people? Can you

571
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Speaker 1: pick out the wolves that are really just after you

572
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Speaker 1: for your money? And I think I really love that

573
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Speaker 1: part of the movie of discovering the story I really

574
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Speaker 1: didn't know a whole lot about and really becoming angry

575
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Speaker 1: because there's so many things that go wrong in this

576
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Speaker 1: movie and there's so much exploitation that I found myself

577
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Speaker 1: getting some angry about this where you just want something

578
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Speaker 1: to be done. How did you feel after reading the

579
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Speaker 1: book and then seeing the film?

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Speaker 6: Okay, without giving too much a way, we will also

581
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Speaker 6: do a spoiler.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have so a spoiler, so we'll keep

583
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Speaker 2: this part spoiler free. But as far as just the

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Speaker 2: the comparison in the two without giving a whole lot away.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I gave.

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Speaker 5: The book four and a half stars when I reviewed

587
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Speaker 5: it on my good Reads, and I'll just go ahead

588
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Speaker 5: and give my film or you know, I would give

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Speaker 5: it four stars.

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Speaker 6: I deduct half a start because the.

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Speaker 5: Movie goes off course a little from the book, and

592
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Speaker 5: that there's a pretty big plot line in the movie

593
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Speaker 5: that you're introduced to or is in the book that

594
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Speaker 5: unfolds slower and you don't know towards the end. The

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Speaker 5: book also goes into a lot more detail about like

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Speaker 5: the creation of the FBI, which I thought was really interesting,

597
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Speaker 5: but I get that that didn't really serve the plot

598
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Speaker 5: of the movie. I think the book is just it's

599
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Speaker 5: hands down better because it's a lot more investigative rather

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Speaker 5: than storytelling. But I thought the movie was great. I

601
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Speaker 5: really loved the movie. But I'm glad that I read

602
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Speaker 5: the book first, and I think you could still read

603
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Speaker 5: the book after seeing the movie. I think things will

604
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Speaker 5: unfold differently and you get a fuller.

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Speaker 6: Picture of the story.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, the book is told in three acts as well,

607
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Speaker 5: the first or I guess it's called like three books.

608
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Speaker 6: The book one is the story of all the murders.

609
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Speaker 5: Book two is creation of the FBI and the investigation unfolding,

610
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Speaker 5: and then book three is David gran talking about his

611
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Speaker 5: research and he actually.

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Speaker 6: I think this is really cool. And if you're not

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Speaker 6: watching this on video, sorry and this won't be interesting.

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Speaker 5: But he has like an entire section in the back

615
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Speaker 5: of like this, many pages of all of the research.

616
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Speaker 6: That he did to write this book and a lot

617
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Speaker 6: of research. I thought that was really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I thought that the casting was really great in this movie.

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Speaker 6: Oh, the casting was phenomenal.

620
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Speaker 2: And the interesting casting I found was all the country

621
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Speaker 2: artists who were in this movie. He had Stergil.

622
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Speaker 6: Simpson, Jason Isbel who.

623
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Speaker 1: Was a lot more prominent than I was expecting. He

624
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Speaker 1: was essentially throughout this entire film.

625
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Speaker 6: I would say a second Toier character.

626
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Speaker 1: And you had Randy Hauser with this small cameo in

627
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Speaker 1: this movie. But just to be able to say you're

628
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Speaker 1: in a Scorsese movie, no matter how big or small

629
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Speaker 1: of a part you have, I think is pretty cool.

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Speaker 6: Jesse Plemmons was phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: He is one of those actors that I wouldn't have

632
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: expected years ago when he was on brand of night

633
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 5: Lights to explode like he has.

634
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: But he is so freaking good.

635
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Speaker 2: I mean, he has a probably a great agent getting

636
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: him great role, but he is a great actor.

637
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: He isn't, at the core of it, great actor, but

638
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I feel like he has so many big roles in

639
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: like movies that end up being OSCAR nominated movies, which

640
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: this one, without a doubt, will for sure go on

641
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: to be. But the same guy from Game Night is

642
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: also in Killers of the Flower Moon, also having very

643
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Speaker 1: poignant lines.

644
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Speaker 6: Was one of my favorite roles that he he's done

645
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 6: is the coppin Game Night.

646
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Speaker 2: How could that be profitable for pre Dooley? Yes, I

647
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: love him in that movie.

648
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: But I did think having the country artists cast in

649
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: this movie it was a nice touch because Scorsese and

650
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: his casting director always tried to have like that unique

651
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: casting of like why is this person in this movie?

652
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Speaker 2: But it's interesting?

653
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Speaker 5: And then Jack White, Oh yeah, Jack White, which I did.

654
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Speaker 5: I had a theory I was like, are any of

655
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Speaker 5: them from Oklahoma? They are from four different states. That

656
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Speaker 5: theory was just gone.

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Speaker 1: I think they were just trying to find some off

658
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Speaker 1: the wall casting, and I think it works in most part.

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Speaker 1: I will say, like you can kind of tell how

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Speaker 1: they're not really actors. I felt it a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I didn't notice it that much.

662
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Speaker 2: A little bit with Jason Isbel, No, probably more so

663
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Speaker 2: with Surgil Simpson.

664
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Speaker 6: To be Jason Isbell's character was also just supposed to

665
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Speaker 6: be weird.

666
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Speaker 5: He was a weird guy, and I don't want to

667
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 5: explain why he's weird, but you'll watch it and you'll

668
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Speaker 5: be like, that's a very odd character.

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Speaker 1: I would say with Surgel Simpson, I was very aware

670
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: in some of his scenes that he was acting and

671
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: not just being fully engulfed in that role. But I

672
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Speaker 1: would say this movie sucks you in from the very

673
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Speaker 1: beginning to the point that it hit about the hour

674
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Speaker 1: in fifteen mark, and it went by so fast that

675
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Speaker 1: I realized, like, okay, I'm not going to be bored

676
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: in this movie. I also drink a lot of coffee,

677
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: so I didn't want to doze off in this movie

678
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: because of the link. But it does suck you in

679
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: and about at that hour in fifteen minute mark, I

680
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Speaker 1: literally made a note that I was giving this movie

681
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Speaker 1: a five out of five because it was just going

682
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: and going and going. And the cinematography in this movie

683
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: is unmatched. I love the way that they actually filmed

684
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Speaker 1: it in Oklahoma, and you really feel like you're there.

685
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Speaker 1: I think that is a big part of this movie.

686
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Speaker 1: It just all really comes down to how this movie

687
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: was framed in the direction, but also with things like

688
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: the hair, makeup, and wardrobe, like to take somebody like

689
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Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio and make him look so different and really

690
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: be able to elevate his character because he's a great actor.

691
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Speaker 1: But the movie had just some unruly tension throughout the

692
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Speaker 1: entire time. With every kill that happens, it's just like,

693
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: I won't even kills. With every brutal murder, you just

694
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Speaker 1: feel it.

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Speaker 5: There's a few scenes I will say that are a

696
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 5: little graphic. The whole thing is not graphic, but there

697
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Speaker 5: are a few of the murders for your.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of Scorsese's trademark of having just the

699
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Speaker 1: really cut and dry murder where it just comes out

700
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Speaker 1: of nowhere. It just happens and it's very matter of

701
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: the fact, and it's just pretty unsettling too.

702
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Speaker 5: There's one in particular that I will just say, so

703
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 5: if you're a little like squeamish, just like when there's

704
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Speaker 5: a murder, maybe just like look away for a second,

705
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 5: close eyes.

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Speaker 1: That to say, I love the movie and afterwards, after

707
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Speaker 1: sitting in the theater for almost three and a half hours,

708
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Speaker 1: I felt differently than that five out of five I

709
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: was giving it earlier. And I think it's because at

710
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Speaker 1: the end of this movie, I realized that Scorsese didn't

711
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Speaker 1: do a whole lot different than he's done in the past,

712
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: which I think great directors always reinvent themselves. Guy is

713
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: eighty years old now, he's not going to reinvent himself.

714
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Speaker 1: And I think the story that he had to tell here,

715
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Speaker 1: and he even did that thing at the very beginning

716
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Speaker 1: of the movie.

717
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Speaker 2: He's like, I've been wanting to tell.

718
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Speaker 1: The story for the whole for whatever amount of time.

719
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here in the theater. I thought he

720
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: was gonna do something a little bit different, and I

721
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: thought the movie was gonna have a little bit different

722
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: of a tone. But it almost felt like the same

723
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: formula that he did back in the day with Goodfellas,

724
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: that same Rise and Fall, focusing on a couple of

725
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: actors that aren't even members of the Osage tribe and

726
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: telling their story of really just another crime epic that

727
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Speaker 1: he's told before.

728
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Speaker 2: I kind of wanted him to do something different.

729
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: I wanted more of the osage story, which you get

730
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: and you get in there the book. But I guess

731
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Speaker 1: with having to make an epic that's three and a

732
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Speaker 1: half hours long, he had to tell it in a

733
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Speaker 1: way and from a perspective that he could reach that

734
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Speaker 1: run time.

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Speaker 5: And also keep people engaged. Because I will say one

736
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Speaker 5: my one note about the book, the reason I only

737
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: gave it a four and a half instead of a five,

738
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Speaker 5: is that it's a very slow start, very slow, like

739
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 5: to the point where I was like, am I gonna

740
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: want to finish this book? And then once you get

741
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Speaker 5: towards the end of like part one on the book

742
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 5: and onto part two, it's like, Okay, I can't put

743
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Speaker 5: this down. But I will say I kind of see why,

744
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 5: like the creative direction went the way it did in

745
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 5: the movie, because you have to keep people engaged, because

746
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: if they're bored in the first thirty minutes, they're gonna leave.

747
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: We've been there before, We've bored in the first thirty

748
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Speaker 5: minutes of a movie where like it's not getting any better.

749
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Speaker 1: So from my five, I took it down to a

750
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: four point five, and then it went down a little

751
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: bit further because I did feel those three and a

752
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Speaker 1: half hours, even though it was entertaining, and I think

753
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Speaker 1: the fact that it was based on a true story

754
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: that kind of hurt it a little bit for me,

755
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: because if it was just a fictional story, I would

756
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: have loved it, probably would have given it a five

757
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: out of five.

758
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: But I feel like he.

759
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Changed the perspective a little bit and it took a

760
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: little bit away from the impactfulness, and he kind of

761
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: missed out on some other elements of the story that

762
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Speaker 1: I wish he would have drove home a little bit more.

763
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Speaker 5: But I will say too, you wouldn't have known that

764
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: there were elements of that story if I hadn't read

765
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: the book always that have changed your opinion. Because we

766
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 5: got in the car and I immediately it was like,

767
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 5: I think, so here's what changed, Here's what was different,

768
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 5: Here's what I didn't like.

769
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Speaker 6: See.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't if you saw this movie, you didn't read

771
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 5: the book, you didn't know anything. Would you have given

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Speaker 5: it a five out of five?

773
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Speaker 1: No, because of the long run time. Okay, I still

774
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't give it a five out of five. Would have

775
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: went to four point five. But after hearing what you

776
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: had to say about it, and we'll get into in

777
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Speaker 1: the spoiler version of this review, I think I got

778
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: to take it down to a four out of five,

779
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: and I also based it on his work. I don't

780
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: always love to do that, but if you're thinking about

781
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Speaker 1: Scorsese and putting it up against Goodfellas and The Departed

782
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: and Taxi Driver and all the movies he has done

783
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: that have really cemented him as one of the greatest

784
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: directors of all time, I wouldn't even put it in

785
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: the top five Scorsese films, so I couldn't give it

786
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: a five out of five when Goodfellas will still be

787
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: my favorite movie.

788
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: Of his of all time.

789
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Right below that is Wolf of Wall Street.

790
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Speaker 1: So it was close to getting there, but at three

791
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: and a half hours, just really hurt my butt at

792
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Speaker 1: the end of it. And I also think that hurts

793
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: him in the long run too, because it made about

794
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars opening weekend, which is decent, but

795
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: I feel like having that long run time is going

796
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: to keep a lot of people away from even watching

797
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: it in the first place. And even the fact that

798
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: it's coming out on Apple in probably forty five days

799
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: or so, I still think starting a movie that's three

800
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: and a half Hours is going to keep a lot

801
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: of people away from it too.

802
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: But Oppenheimer's three hours, Yeah, and that didn't feel the

803
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: hurt at the box office.

804
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Speaker 6: I don't feel like I feel like there's a.

805
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: Big jump in something being three hours and three and

806
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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 6: Mentally, I heard myself about one hunder three point five.

808
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think it's a factor here.

809
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's still a really

810
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: good movie and one I highly encourage you to see

811
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Speaker 1: for yourself and make your own judgment.

812
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: It's not a bad movie by any means. No, there's

813
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it.

814
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: I just think when you look at all the aspects

815
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: of it, there's some things I would have liked to

816
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: have been done differently.

817
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 6: Agreed, and we'll talk about that in the spoiler. We'll

818
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 6: do that because I have so much I want to say,

819
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 6: but I can't, so to recap. You give it a four.

820
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Speaker 1: I also give it a four. And I think Leonardo

821
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: DiCaprio will probably pick up a Best Actor nomination. I

822
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: don't think he'll win, even though he was really good.

823
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't think de Niro deserves one in this case.

824
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: The only person I think deserves a nomination, and deserves

825
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: to win is Lily Gladstone.

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Speaker 6: Give her the Oscar.

827
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: Give her the Oscar.

828
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Speaker 1: I would also like to see Jesse Plemons get nominated,

829
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: just because his role and his character was really good,

830
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: and also that the fact that he just keeps putting

831
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: up really good movies and really doing well with being

832
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of one of the quiet elite members of Hollywood.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, quiet power couple, Jesse Plemons and

834
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Speaker 5: Kirsten Dunst.

835
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Speaker 6: That is a good one, a very quiet power couple.

836
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Speaker 1: But come back later this week and we'll give you

837
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Speaker 1: our full spoiler version and talk about all the juicy details.

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Speaker 2: But that is our Killers of the flower Moon review.

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Speaker 3: It's time to head down to Movie Mikes trailer, Paul,

840
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: this is one of.

841
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Speaker 1: The spiciest movie trailers I've seen in a long time.

842
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: You have two of the most attractive people in Hollywood

843
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: right now, Sydney Sweeney and Glenn Powell, and you are

844
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: rated rom com called anyone but You. And the premise

845
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: of this movie is they go on one day, they

846
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: hit it off, and then they realize they hate each other,

847
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: but then decide to go on a destination wedding to Australia.

848
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Together and convince everybody that they are a couple and

849
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: happily in love. So by the looks of this trailer

850
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Speaker 1: and the breakdown of the plot, it seems pretty cliche,

851
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: which rom comms tend to be. But really, you don't

852
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: go into a rom com wanting the most elaborate plot.

853
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: You don't need it to push the boundaries of cinema.

854
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: You go into a rom com for great chemistry. And

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00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: after watching this trailer, I realize they have impeccable chemistry together,

856
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: so much so that during the time they were making

857
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: this movie, there were a lot of you know, cheating

858
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: allegation rumors, which Glenn Powell is now no longer with

859
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: the girlfriend he had while making this movie. She afterwards

860
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: made a very cryptic Instagram post unfollowed him and Sidney Sweeney,

861
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: and Sidney Sweeney has been engaged its entire time and.

862
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: Is still engaged.

863
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: But still, you put out a movie like this, we

864
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: get the first look of it at the trailer, you're

865
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: obviously going to have dating rumors, but maybe they're just

866
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: really good at their job. And after seeing what has

867
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: happened after watching this trailer, I think they are just

868
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: really good at their job. Because I think separately they

869
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: are really great actors, and you put them together and

870
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: they have a lot of chemistry. They can't hold that back.

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00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to do. They're trying to sell

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00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: tickets to this movie, and they sell it with their chemistry.

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00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: So before I get into more thoughts about Anyone but You,

874
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: which is coming out this December, here's just a little

875
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: bit of the trailer.

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00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 6: Let's just tell everyone together what.

877
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 4: It could be kind of fun.

878
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: There's no way we can convince anyone we actually like

879
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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 6: Trust me. We're at a wedding a million miles away

881
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 6: from home.

882
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: Who knows what can So.

883
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: They play this couple who were arch nemesis in college

884
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: and then years after graduation, they get together for this wedding.

885
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: They pretend to be a couple for their own personal reasons,

886
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: but through this pretending they.

887
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: End up falling in love.

888
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Speaker 1: And just by watching this trailer, just by reading the plot,

889
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: I can spoil this movie for you. It's gonna have

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00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: all those same tropes and cliches that you can expect

891
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: in a rom com like this. But I don't think

892
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: that's necessarily a bad thing, because, like I was saying,

893
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: you go into a movie like this wanting to see chemistry,

894
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: and even though a movie is predictable, it doesn't have

895
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: to keep you from enjoying it. It also comes to

896
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: us from director Will Gluck, who also directed rom coms

897
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: and comedies like Easy A and Friends with Benefits, So

898
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: I think you have some backing there having a good director.

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00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: At the center of this trailer, There's a dance sequence,

900
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: there's a helicopter landing, there's a lot of sustained eye

901
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: contact between our two actors here, and even have Sidney

902
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: Sweeney punging Glenn Powell in the junk. So I feel

903
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: like the trailer is a little bit misleaning because everything

904
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: I read about this movie is very much rom com,

905
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: But for some reason, I get kind of a mysterious thriller.

906
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: Even just hearing the music there in that clip, it

907
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: seems like there's some kind of interesting motive that each

908
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: of their characters has. So I'm curious to find the

909
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: reasons for each of them for maintaining and putting on

910
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: this fake relationship. What are they getting out of it?

911
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: The movie is being compared to a modern adaptation of

912
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: William Shakespeare as much Ado about Nothing, so in the movie,

913
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Glenn Powell's character is supposed to be a jerk, so

914
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: it makes for kind of an odd pairing to have

915
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: her with Sidney Sweeney's character. So yeah, even the fact

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Speaker 1: that it's adapted from William Shakespeare just shows me that

917
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: this formula has probably been done.

918
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Speaker 2: One hundred times in film.

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00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: We've seen it when two characters seem like they are

920
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: so wrong for each other or they're putting on some

921
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of fake act, that they end up falling for

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Speaker 1: each other, and it will probably leave us all with

923
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Speaker 1: that warm feeling at the end going out on a

924
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: high note. So really, my only concern after watching this

925
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: trailer and seeing the poster for it is that I

926
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Speaker 1: hope they don't just rely on the looks of both

927
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Speaker 1: of our actors here to get us to go or

928
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Speaker 1: watch this movie, which just by seeing that, seeing the

929
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Speaker 1: spiciness of the trailer, I think it is enough. But

930
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Speaker 1: it has potential to be a great rom com because

931
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Speaker 1: of the level of both of our stars here. But

932
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Speaker 1: the spiciness alone I think will sell tickets, because that

933
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: is kind of what you have to do to make

934
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Speaker 1: people want to go see a rom com. Right now,

935
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: you either have to sell it in the trailer like

936
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: they do for this movie, or you have to have

937
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: two really big A list bankable stars plastered all over

938
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: the trailer and plastered on the movie poster to get

939
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Speaker 1: people interested in this. And rom coms have had a

940
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: tough run at the box office because of that reason,

941
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: and because of the fact that Netflix has been pretty

942
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: consistent with theirs, and when you go pay to see

943
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: something in the thea, you almost want to see something

944
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more elaborate than a rom com. And

945
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: it feels so accessible to watch a movie like this

946
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: at home that oftentimes I feel like people just wait

947
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: for a movie like this, because really, when I think

948
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: of the last great rom com I've seen in theaters,

949
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: it has to be Ticket to Paradise with Julia Roberts

950
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: and George Clooney, And that is because you realize while

951
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: watching that movie how much charisma both of those actors

952
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: have and how much they suck you in, and the

953
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: reason that they have been selling tickets for the amount

954
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: of time that they have in bost of their careers.

955
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: And the other ones that come to mind have been

956
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: Netflix movies. Earlier this year, Love at First Sight was

957
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: a movie that Kelsey and I just kind of randomly

958
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: watched on Netflix and turned out to be pretty good

959
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: about these two people who just meet on a flight randomly.

960
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: They try to get each other's information, and it's kind

961
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: of this whole misconnection that plays out The entire movie

962
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: is them trying to reconnect and find each other, which

963
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: I thought was a pretty interesting premise. Again, nothing completely

964
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: novel here, but I thought that was really well done,

965
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: and the fact that it's so easily accessible on Netflix

966
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: makes a movie like that work.

967
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: Before that was last year We.

968
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: Look Both Ways, which is about a girl who is

969
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: about he graduate college, and then the movie splits into

970
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: two different realities of one her getting pregnant and having

971
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: a kid, and the other of her going through with

972
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: her dream to move out to la and the two

973
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: storylines play out right next to each other the entire

974
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: time to see the differences on if she took one

975
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: way or she took the other way in life. So,

976
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: going back to our movie here, anyone but you, I

977
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: think it's going to have to have that kind of

978
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: hook to get people interested and want to go see

979
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: a movie. The timing is also interesting because this movie

980
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: is coming out on December twenty second. So I almost

981
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of counter programming here because you

982
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: have some major movies that always come out in December.

983
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: This year we have Wonka, Aquaman, two, Ironclaw, Ferrari, So

984
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: it might be one of those movies for if you're

985
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: not interested in any of those films, you end up

986
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: going to watch this one around the holidays where we're

987
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: all trying to find things to do with our family.

988
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: So I think that is the factor it has going

989
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: for it, and the fact that you have two really

990
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: hot stars right now. So where would I put it

991
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: on an excitement level. I'm right in the middle on

992
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: this one. I'm a two point five out of five

993
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: because I could go either way of if I have

994
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: time to go see this one in theaters and I've

995
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: seen all the other December releases, I'll go check this

996
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: one out. But I would feel fine and comfortable and

997
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: think I don't really miss anything from not seeing this

998
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: movie on the big screen and just waiting for it

999
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: to stream at home.

1000
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: But eventually I will see this movie and.

1001
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: It will probably be pretty all right. But that is

1002
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: coming from somebody who is just a recent adapter of

1003
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: the rom com. So again, that movie is called Anyone

1004
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: but You comes out on December twenty second head that

1005
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: for is.

1006
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: This week's edition of movie Line is framer bar.

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00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's gonna do it for another episode

1008
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta

1009
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: give my listener shout out of the week and I

1010
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: gotta tell you the secret emoji because we had to

1011
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: interview this week. So first our listener shout out of

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00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: the week is to f Austin on YouTube who commented

1013
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: on the Dumb Money trailer from last week. Again, if

1014
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: you don't follow me on YouTube, you can check out

1015
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: full movie reviews there, so if you've listened to it,

1016
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: or maybe you've missed the review in the past, you

1017
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: can see it and hear it there. And your comment

1018
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: was in response to me trying to remember whether it

1019
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: was millions or billions that they were set to win

1020
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: in Dumb Money, and you wrote billions is correct. The

1021
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: short sellers of GameStop stock, who were betting on the

1022
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: complete collapse of the company lost many billions. Literally basically

1023
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: a road group of investors got the tables turned on them.

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00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: So thank you F.

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Speaker 1: Austin for that clarification, which I understand. Wall Street maybe

1026
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: just a little bit more in the idea of short

1027
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Speaker 1: selling and the idea of the squeeze. After watching Dumb Money,

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00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: that Kelsey and I went back and watched The Big

1029
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: Short So now I am ready to take on Wall

1030
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: Street everybody.

1031
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: So thank you for that comment.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to the secret emoji, which I do

1033
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: every time I have an interview on the podcast, I

1034
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: give you the secret emoji, so you can go comment

1035
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram or on TikTok and you can find all

1036
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: those links in the episode notes of this podcast.

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00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: Comment with the Beatle emoji.

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00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: This week, because we talked to the Blue Beetle director,

1039
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: I'll go through all those comments to pick next week's

1040
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: listeners shout out, so the Beatle emoji hit it up

1041
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Speaker 1: in the comments.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: I hope you have a great rest of your week,

1044
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: and until next time, go out and watch good movies

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Speaker 1: and I will talk to you later.