1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm just about that action also. All right, here we 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: go from throwing out so spect I'm saying it's a 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: cash touchtop. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: go to Swann. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Big bank, small bank. I like to make money. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 4: All right, this is the ultimate combine and. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: We are underway. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 5: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, presented by bet MGM. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 5: I'm Jill Glands. I'm joined by the hardest working man 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 5: at the Action Network, that is Evan Abrams. He joins 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 5: me each and every week for the recap show, and 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 5: we're gonna dive into all of the Sunday NFL action 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 5: for week twelve. Brandon Anderson, of course, will join us. 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 5: He'll have his hot reads later in the show. And 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 5: Patrick Everson will join us at the end of the show. 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: He's from Vegas Insider. He'll give us an update on 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 5: how the sportsbooks did this week in Vegas and how 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 5: they fared for NFL Sunday. But first, Evan, as always, 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 5: let's talk about Monday Night Football Bears Vikings and FC 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 5: North matchup. Vikings' home favorites of minus three with an 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 5: over under forty three and a half, and I guess 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 5: for me, Evan, I'm a little worried about the spread 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 5: in this game. I don't really try. I love Josh Dobbs, 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. I think Josh Dobbs is the 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 5: best story in the NFL. But I don't know if 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 5: I could trust him as a three point favorite, even 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 5: against this Bears team. 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: And I'm kind of leaning to the over. 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 5: I get the primetime under trend we did this last 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 5: week when we talked about Eagles Chiefs, I was like, 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: I like the over this one. I kind of liked 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: the over because we don't have as solid of defense 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 5: as involved as what we saw last week. So here's 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 5: why I like the over forty three and a half. 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: I think the Bears, especially when they play in the 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 5: dome Justin Fields, they can start fast. We've seen now 40 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 5: in the time of Justin Field's either playing in Detroit 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 5: or playing in Dallas, or anytime he's played in a dome, 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 5: like for example at Atlanta, the offensive number uptick. You 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 5: start to see a higher accuracy, you start to see 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 5: a higher yards per attempt, and I think, like the 45 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: Lions game last week, they could start fast, score but 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 5: then leave the door open for that late rally from 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: the Vikings, which is why I'm even at a three. Now, 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: if you gave me a three and a half, we 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 5: could talk, but or maybe even a four. But at three, 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: I feel like that's a push waiting to happen. And 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 5: the Bears their defense, they're twenty fifth overall in defensive DVOA, 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 5: but where they're really weak is versus the past twenty 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: seventh the DVOA versus the past. That's not good for 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: a late cover, like where you're in a position where 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 5: if your defense needs to hold strong and I think 56 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 5: both quarterbacks are gonna throw a lot in this game. 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 5: The Bears are seven and four to the over this year. 58 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: That's the best mark in the NFL. There's seventeen and 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: eleven to the over since the start of last season. 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 5: So I really like the over forty three and a 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: half in this game. I want to stay away from 62 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 5: the side. What are you looking at, Evan? Would you 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: play the over? Would you play the under? Or are 64 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 5: you think can Vikings cover at home? What are you 65 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: thinking here? 66 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: I just think you need to look at this initially 67 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: from this point of view, So most casual betters looking 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: at this game. Would probably trust Minnesota, right. You seen 69 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: Dobbs in multiple primetime games. He's looked pretty decent. Minnesota 70 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: seems like a better team. Chicago has an awful history. 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: They never win these NFC North games. But the interesting 72 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: thing is you look at the tickets fifty to fifty 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: right now. Personally, I took Chicago plus a three and 74 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: a half earlier in the week. 75 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: Better number down to three now. 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: I just don't see it either way, Like and over 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: over under was forty five and a half even failier 78 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: now down to forty four, even forty three and a 79 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: half in places, I just don't trust either team really 80 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: at all, nor do I trust either quarterback. I'm really 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: not a pastor not guy. I'm not a Dobbs guy. 82 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: I've been saying it from the beginning. He just he's 83 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: formidable in a position where he I think he's more 84 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: of a game manager who can move you know, he's 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: got a little ability in that place, but he can't 86 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: throw it downfield. He's a you know, one to ten 87 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: guy versus a you know, ten to fifteen in that 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: area when in terms of passing, so you just don't 89 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: see him like move the chains a ton in that, 90 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: so and then you're dealing with Fields on the other side, 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 2: where you know who the heck knows what you're gonna get. Obviously, 92 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 2: the trends twelve and one to the under on Monday 93 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Night football, Yes, Monday Night Football under his fifty seven 94 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: twenty eight and one since twenty nineteen, so it's even 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: a long. 96 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 4: Term type deal. 97 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: And then one of my favorite trends when both teams 98 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: on extended rest expect the low scoring game one oh 99 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: two forty seven and one. That's sixty eight percent since 100 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and twenty six and five this season, So 101 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: crazy numbers there, obviously. Uh you know, listen, Initially, I 102 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: think everyone would say gotta fade the Bears right six 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: twenty and one, it gets a spread versus the NFC North. 104 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: But I think I think I kind of like him, 105 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: And from a touchdown point of view, I kind of 106 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: like Fields. I think first touchdown any time. I think 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: if Chicago actually does what I think they can do 108 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: and they cover the game, I think it's probably him 109 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: inside the dome. Maybe he gets running a little bit, 110 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: but that's my thoughts. 111 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, so at the three I would be like, Okay, 112 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 5: I would prefer the three and a half. Sure, I 113 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 5: would tell you do not bet the Bears money line 114 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: at this stage. I know people will look at that 115 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 5: and think, I'll just take the money line on the 116 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 5: short spread. But the Bears they're one and nine straight 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 5: up in their last ten road games, two and thirteen 118 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 5: straight up in their last fifteen road games. 119 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: I mean, when the. 120 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 5: Opponent scores twenty or more points, the Bears and Fields lose. 121 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 5: That's really what it's come down to. So I think 122 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: more points are going to be scored because that's why 123 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 5: I think the Bears might end up losing in this stretch. 124 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: I will say the. 125 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: Past are not part. 126 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: I'm not really digging a lot of Vikings touchdown scores, 127 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 5: Like right now, it's still undecided if Justin Jefferson's going 128 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 5: to play. 129 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 4: Even if he does play, you don't. 130 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: Want to bet a touchdown score on first game coming 131 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 5: back from an injury with barely any connection with Dobbs. 132 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: But I think Dobbs as a touchdown scorer just as 133 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 5: valuable maybe as Fields. 134 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: I feel like they're both kind of playing the same game. 135 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 5: And Dobbs, I mean he has rushing touchdowns now in 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 5: five straight games. Fourteen Red zone carries this year, which 137 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: is just a notch below where Josh Allen and Jalen 138 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: hurtzier when it comes to red zone carries per game. 139 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: And I think another reason why I like Josh Dobbs 140 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: is similar to because he doesn't really he can't really 141 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: make those passes past the twenty yard mark. Well, two 142 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: of his six touchdowns this year have been scored outside 143 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 5: of the ten yard line. He's taking off from the 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: fifteen to twenty yard line and then scoring, so two 145 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: of the touchdowns have been scored from one yard all 146 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: the rest have it scored outside of ten. So that's 147 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: one of the things about Dobbs and where he's been 148 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 5: successful over the last few weeks, a bit of a 149 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: poor man's Kyler Murray. I mean, Kyler has scored now 150 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: in three straight games. And as I said, I think 151 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: Dobbs is the best story of football, so I really 152 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 5: just can't bet against him at this stage. I will 153 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 5: say this though, Evan Justin Fields, it shocked me that 154 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 5: his interception ads this week are at plus money. So 155 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 5: Justin Fields has only had I tracked the interception odds 156 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 5: for every quarterback. He has only had plus odds once 157 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 5: since the start of last year where he became a starter. 158 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 5: It was Week two versus the Buccaneers and he had 159 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: two interceptions in that game. In thirty two games that 160 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: Justin Fields has started, he has an interception in twenty 161 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 5: of them. That's a sixty two percent hit rate. Ten 162 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: of seventeen road games in that stretch fifty eight percent. Now, 163 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: the Vikings, they're not exactly a defensive juggernaut, but they 164 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 5: do rank top ten in DVOA in both pass and 165 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 5: the rush, and they have a twelve and a half 166 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 5: percent pass defended rate along with a two point three 167 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: percent interception rate, where that ranks is both around the 168 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: top ten and over the Vikings last six games, an 169 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 5: opposing quarterback has thrown an interception in five of them. 170 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 5: The one who didn't was Russell Wilson, and the Vikings 171 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: dropped two would be interceptions in that game, so I 172 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 5: think the interception left will come back. Especially, I just 173 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 5: find it really hard to pass on Justin Fields and 174 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: an interception prop when it's plus money, given his track 175 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: record of bad ball eight and also just throwing interceptions 176 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 5: and just looking like a bad quarterback throwing the ball sometimes, 177 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 5: I would never knock him as a runner, great runner 178 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: as a quarterback, but throwing the ball, I think we 179 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: could both agree, both him and Dobbs, it's going to 180 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: be difficult to see big passes or at least efficient 181 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 5: quality passes that we're used to seeing maybe from the 182 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 5: top end of quarterbacks in the NFL. All right, so 183 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 5: that's Monday Night football. But now let's dive into Sunday 184 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: evan where favorites tore it up eleven and three straight 185 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 5: up and eleven and three against the spread. Favorites now 186 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 5: fifty four and eighteen straight up since Week eight with 187 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 5: a thirty nine and thirty one and two against the 188 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 5: spread record. Can you put into context like eleven and 189 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: three straight up and eleven and three against the spread 190 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: for favorites. We talked about this a little bit off air, 191 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: but can you expand on how historical this could be. 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're sitting here watching Sunday night football right now. 193 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: So if the Ravens do cover as favorites and push 194 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: that to twelve and three against the spread, that would 195 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: be only the fifth time in the wild Card era 196 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety that you've seen twelve favorites cover in 197 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: a week. And we actually in the Super Bowl. Are 198 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: have never seen thirteen? So uh, the opportunity again sits 199 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: on the past or not and the Vikings as three 200 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: point favorite smart and on Monday Night football. If the 201 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: uh Rams pool cover on Sunday Night Football, Yeah, so uh, 202 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: twelve and three then could be thirteen and three against 203 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: the spread wild run. But again, as you said, just 204 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: a crazy if you've been betting underdogs lately, not pretty 205 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: only eighteen underdogs winning outright since wek eight in a lot. 206 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 5: And another thing that the public loves is overs. And 207 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: with the recent trend, the season of unders now at 208 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: one four seventy three and one for the season, so 209 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 5: fifty eight percent of all games have gone under this year. 210 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 5: We actually saw an uptick in overs this week for 211 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: Week twelve at nine and five entering Sunday Night Football 212 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: to the over. And I think we could thank Thanksgiving 213 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: for that when we saw in Black Friday as well, 214 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 5: when we saw four of those games all four of 215 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 5: them go over. 216 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the roller coaster insane. So overs, unders, overs, unders, 217 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: but overall one oh four seventy three and one, and 218 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: even recently is where the trend kind of takes it 219 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: to a new level most profitable underseasons through twelve weeks 220 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty 221 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: twenty one in that order, So what a ride. And 222 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: then actually watching this Ravens Chargers games right now, it's 223 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: worth noting the night unders, Primetime unders, so Primetime unders 224 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: thirty two and thirteen, which includes the Thanksgiving games, international 225 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: games basically standalone games this season, and then nighttime twenty 226 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: seven and nine, so we'll see if that keeps going tonight. 227 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 5: Well, one game, Evan that we had did not have 228 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 5: to worry about whether or not the total was going 229 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: to go over or not was Bill's Eagles. We say 230 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 5: this every week, it feels like it's the game of 231 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 5: the week and they always just kind of fall short. 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: Where this is one game where both teams came to play. 233 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: We saw some spotty play at the start from the 234 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 5: Eagles and then we saw them come back late. So 235 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 5: the Eagles win thirty seven to thirty four in overtime. 236 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: The Eagles do cover is three point home favorites. We're 237 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: going to talk about that more and here in a second. 238 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 5: With the over under of forty nine and Evan, the 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 5: Bills now a little bit in disarray, fall to seven 240 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 5: and six. They've lost three of their last four games, 241 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 5: and now they're heading into a buy with the Chiefs 242 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 5: on deck. They've got to go into Arrowhead and play 243 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: the Chiefs coming off of BUYE. 244 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: Schedules really brutal forgetting just Kansas City, Dallas Chargers and 245 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: those are next three coming up. And as you said, 246 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: you can't lose any more games. You're not in the 247 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: NFC either, you're in the AFC. So it's getting really 248 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: really late early for Buffalo. We're gonna talk about this 249 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: every single week because it's just who he is. But 250 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: it's just worth noting Josh Allen eight straight games now 251 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: with an interception. He's just that's just what he is 252 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: as a quarterback. I believe the record is twelve, so 253 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna have to wait a few more 254 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: weeks to try to get to that. But you know, 255 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: last time Josh Allen didn't have a turnover and consecutive 256 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: regular season starts was in twenty twenty, guys, so this 257 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: is the quarterback he is, most interceptions, most fumbles since 258 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. But I want to say, watching the game today, 259 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: I think I learned more about Buffalo than I did 260 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: about Philly. Yeah, the stat about the Eagles being four 261 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: and oh this year when trailing by ten points or 262 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: more at any point. We've seen this story before, you know. 263 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: I was more impressed by Buffalo being in this game 264 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: based off of all the injuries they've had and the team. 265 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: I didn't think they were anymore. But they led most 266 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: of the game. They were in the game, they were up. 267 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: They did fall apart, but I did kind of like 268 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: what I saw from the team overall, if that makes 269 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: any sense. 270 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely, But I will say that the Bills blew it 271 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 5: on multiple levels because what we've talked about with Buffalo 272 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 5: over the last month is and these games where they're losing, 273 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: like to the Patriots or to the Jaguars, is they're 274 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 5: starting off slow. They're waiting until the third or fourth 275 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 5: quarter to turn it on. They didn't do that today. 276 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 5: They came out strong. They led seventeen to seven at halftime. 277 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 5: They held Jalen Hurts in that offense to less than 278 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 5: one hundred yards total. They looked great, But the issue 279 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 5: is that they were playing ben don't break type of defense, 280 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 5: and when you play that against a team like the 281 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: Eagles or the Chiefs or the Niners. You can't leave 282 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 5: any room for error. You've got to be aggressive. That's 283 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 5: easy for me to say sitting in my couch. But 284 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 5: at the same time, in overtime, the Bills settled for 285 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 5: a field goal. Their defense in the second half hadn't 286 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: stopped the Eagles at all, and they converted multiple third 287 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 5: downs in overtime. They had to score a touchdown there 288 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: because they were just so gassed. They had to get 289 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: out of there, because the attrition was just slowly kicking in. 290 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: Like you said about their defense, because their defense again 291 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 5: played well, but just as the game was going on, 292 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: just starting to become weaker and weaker. And really what 293 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 5: it came down to as well, this spread. Those two 294 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: missed field goals by the Bills. As soon as he 295 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 5: missed that second field goal, you knew that was going 296 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 5: to play a part in how this spread went down. 297 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 5: Because there were people out there with three and a 298 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: halfs feeling pretty confident, a lot of people out there 299 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: even with threes, feeling pretty confident with the Bills spread, 300 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 5: and they knew when those second field goal got missed, 301 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: if the Eagles go up by another touchdown, they're going 302 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 5: to win by four, and that's exactly what happened. We 303 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: thought maybe they would go for another field goal, maybe 304 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 5: they would settle for the tide. Jalen Hurts runs that in, 305 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: and you know what gets lost in this That fifty 306 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: nine yard field goal in the rain by Jake Elliott 307 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 5: might have been the best field goal season, might have 308 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: been the best field goal that we've seen in just 309 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: a pressure situation with the rain and the elements, and 310 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: the fact that he nailed that to send that game 311 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: to overtime I thought was a really impressive thing. But 312 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 5: this game, for me Evan, it was a big the 313 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: analytics stats crowd versus the old head eye test crowd, 314 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: because everybody will look at that Eagles record, they'll say, well, 315 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 5: they're ten and one, so they're clearly the better team. 316 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 5: Whereas everybody who will look into the stats and see 317 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: the luck factor and things that we have seen where 318 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: they're getting out gained in five straight games. The Bills 319 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: were a better team on paper, at least from the 320 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: statistical data, but still could not pull it out because 321 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 5: Josh Allen just kind of still puts himself in these 322 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 5: positions where he throws an interception or they're not being 323 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: as aggressive as they should be in those spots. 324 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: I don't want to put that all on Allen. 325 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: I think that might be a little bit of Sean McDermott, 326 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 5: who you know, you can't you can't blame your offensive 327 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 5: coordinator for that, right like at this point, So I 328 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 5: think with this game, what we take away from it, 329 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: Like the Eagles now, they have pretty interesting schedule coming up. 330 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: They're ten and one, but they've got the forty nine 331 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: Ers coming up here, very high profile matchup of that 332 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 5: NFC Championship game rematch. And then of course they go 333 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 5: to Dallas to play the Cowboys, Seahawks Giants Cardinals Giants 334 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 5: to end off the year. But those two games really 335 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 5: are gonna determine the rest of the year of whether 336 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 5: or not they're going to go, you know, sixteen and 337 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 5: one or you know, fourteen and three. I think they 338 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 5: pretty much have the NFC wrapped up. But tell us 339 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: a little bit more about what you're thinking for this 340 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: Eagles Niners game coming up next week. 341 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, just something fun I looked up, so an obvious 342 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: thought process one would have when looking at this. So 343 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: the Eagles are ten and one now and are currently 344 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: plus one and a half, so they are home underdogs 345 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers. So Philly would be the 346 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: fourth team with a ninety percent win percentage in game 347 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: twelve or later to be a home underdog in the 348 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: last twenty years. Okay, Now, the craziest thing about that 349 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: is is two of those previous three home underdogs were 350 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: because of backup quarterbacks. So that's in a situation where 351 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: you've got Chad Henny in or you've got you know, 352 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: m Patrick Mahomes out. It's a situation like that. Only 353 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: one other time has there been a starter in that spot. 354 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: So basically, this is a second situation in the last 355 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: twenty years that the Eagles are in. The other situation 356 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: where we've had this Ben Roethlisberger in the two thousand 357 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: and five AFC Championship game against the Patriots, which they lost. 358 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: So this is a truly unique, once in a you know, 359 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: two decade game where you've got a forty nine er 360 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: team that's this complete and this good and you know, 361 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 2: Philly was I believe minus one, minus two and then 362 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: all of a sudden flips, So now the Eagles are 363 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: home dogs and creating a bit of a unique spot. 364 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely think we're gonna see a lot more 365 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: money coming in on the Eagles as we get closer 366 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 5: to that game, where that spread might just become a 367 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 5: Pickham or Niners minus one, I think at that at 368 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: that stage. But yeah, so that's the Eagles and Bill's game. 369 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 5: Let's move on to Jaguars Texans, which also may have 370 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: had some playoff connotations and trickle down effect as the 371 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: game went on. But Jaguars do win twenty four to 372 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 5: twenty one over the Texans, and the total does go 373 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: under a forty eight, but the Jaguars do covers one 374 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 5: and a half point road favorites, And now Trevor Lawrence 375 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 5: and the Jaguars are seven and one straight up in 376 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: his last eight starts as a favorite. And I think 377 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: that's important to note because now when you look at 378 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 5: the Jaguars upcoming schedule and the Texans upcoming schedule. 379 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: It's pretty even. 380 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: But when you look at the Jags schedule, they're probably 381 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 5: only going to be an underdog in one of those games. 382 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 5: They've got the Bengals, Browns, Ravens, Bucks, Panthers, Titans, So 383 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 5: I think the Ravens is the game where they'll likely 384 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: be an underdog in that spot, but the rest of those, 385 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: I mean, they're gonna be facing backup quarterbacks in the 386 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 5: next two games, so it should be they're going to 387 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: be favored and those should be easier wins, even as 388 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 5: good as the Browns defense is. Uh So, the Jaguars, 389 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 5: I think, you know, four and two, if they were 390 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: to go in that spot, I think that pretty much 391 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 5: will lock up the AFC South. I don't think it'll 392 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: be enough though, to get the one. 393 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: Seed in the AFC. 394 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: Here's a change of fortune for us though, Like the 395 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Jaguars are front runners now they're covering as faiths. But 396 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: the thing that's so weird about this is entering the season, 397 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: and I'm going to get this wrong, but I believe 398 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence was like three and seven straight up as 399 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: a favorite. He was four three, four, five games under 400 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: five hundred and that spo and yeah, exactly right and 401 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: completely and utterly flipped on its head. And you're completely right. 402 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: They've been really, really good, and they've been covering these 403 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: spreads and these numbers, even on the road, which gets 404 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: to probably the number of the game for Jacksonville, which 405 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: is they've now covered ten straight road slash neutral games. 406 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: That is the longest such streak, not only in Jaguars 407 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: franchise history, but for any team over the last twenty years. 408 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: A bunch of teams have done it at nine, no 409 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: team has done ten straight. So right now, between London 410 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: and just going all over the place, Jaguars can't be beat. 411 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: Their offense is good, their defense is good. Everything is 412 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: kind of running together, and Peterson is so logistically well 413 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: put together and well rounded. I think they're just tough 414 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: to beat. 415 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: Now. 416 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: The thing that's great about this game is also how 417 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: well put together Houston is. Right, we could say all 418 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: those great things about Jacksonville and then also on the 419 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: other side say Houston was also in the game the 420 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: entire time and also could have won. And also all 421 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: these things says so much about Demigo, so much about Stroud. 422 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'll say this right. CJ. Stroud was two 423 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: hundred to one to an MVPN during Week nine. He 424 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: was eleven to one a few hours ago, so he 425 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: has really entered himself into the conversation. He now has 426 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: the second most passing yards through eleven starts in history, 427 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: behind jess Patrick Mahomes. I just don't think enough needs 428 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: to be said about that. He's been great but fantastic 429 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: game overall. 430 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 5: You know, did passed Justin Herbert for the most passing 431 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 5: yards by a rookie though today and he still has 432 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 5: six games left, three hundred and six yards and two 433 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 5: touchdowns For Stroud, I mean Stroud to his credit, he 434 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: got the Texans back in de range to potentially tie 435 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 5: the game. Amadola missed the field goal, so as a result, 436 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 5: now the Jags win, they control the AFC South. But really, 437 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 5: I thought the Jaguars blew this game. I feel like 438 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: I've said that now four times this year. I feel 439 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: like the Jaguars almost blew this game, or they blew 440 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: it in general, because at the end of the first half, 441 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 5: if you were watching, they got a gift with one 442 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 5: play at the one yard line one second left, Christian 443 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 5: Kirk gets a long catch, gets out of bounds at 444 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 5: the one yard line, and Doug Peterson. I don't know 445 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 5: why they don't keep the ball in Trevor Lawrence's hands. 446 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 5: Does this weird pitch to Etien Again. I'm not knocking 447 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: him for going for the touchdown, but the play call 448 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 5: was just not where it needs to be. It was 449 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 5: just a huge missed opportunity because they could have went 450 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 5: up twenty to seven. They were getting the ball at 451 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 5: the start of the second half. But it's just Doug 452 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 5: Peterson man with these play calls, like sometimes his pants. 453 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: They're just they're just a little too fancy sometimes. 454 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 5: And you know, I think the Jaguars were lucky to 455 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: pull out this win. I feel like the Texans give 456 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 5: them everything they could, and I think the Texans if 457 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: they were to play a third time on a neutral field, 458 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 5: I think the Texans. 459 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 4: Would be favored. 460 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: Honestly, I feel like I think a lot of the 461 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 5: public would end up backing Houston just as a better 462 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 5: story as opposed to the Jaguars. Now, the Texans, I 463 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: will say they're six and five in the AFC. They've 464 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 5: got the Broncos, Jets, Titans, Browns, Titans again, and then 465 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 5: the Colts, so three divisional games in the final four games. 466 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that they can win the AFC South. 467 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that if I keep saying the 468 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 5: Jags blew it every week, the Texans are going to 469 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 5: be right there because they have a split on the 470 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 5: season series. So really it just will come down to 471 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: whether or not the Jaguars take care of business, but 472 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 5: so far from what we've seen from Jacksonville is that 473 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: when they are favored, they do take care of business. 474 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: So that's where we're at now in the AFC South. 475 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: But let's move to the AFC North between the Steelers 476 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 5: and the Bengals. Steelers win sixteen to ten in a 477 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 5: classic AFC North score. The total goes under of thirty 478 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 5: six and a half and these Steelers cover as two 479 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 5: point favorites and evan dating back to the start of 480 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty one season. Now Pittsburgh move over Minnesota. 481 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 5: They are twenty two eight and one in one score games. 482 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 5: The voodoo magic is back for Pittsburgh. 483 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: One score games ten and one last eleven I believe, 484 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: twelve and two last fourteen. Yeah, they are even after 485 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: last week where the streak was broken. Welcome back Pittsburgh, right. 486 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: The two notes for me Bengals win total under has now. 487 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: Cashed with those eleven and a half. 488 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, eleven and a half. So Bengals win total under 489 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: and Panthers win total under which was seven and a 490 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: half were first two cashers of the season. Texans over 491 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: six and a half was the one we were waiting 492 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: for didn't happen today, Maybe next week, but so Bengals 493 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: under in the books. The other one that's interesting, low 494 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: totals this season, So three and one today. Now, what 495 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: does low total means? So totals of seven, totals of 496 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: thirty seven or less. Good ready for this one twenty 497 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: two four and one. Since twenty twenty twenty two to 498 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: four and one thirty eight or less is thirty two 499 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: to eleven and one. Patriots, Giants, Steelers, Bengals, Panthers, Titans 500 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: all under three and zero, and then Brown's Broncos went over. 501 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: So that was there. Three and one. But crazy, crazy 502 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: run on these really really low total So I have 503 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: to see how that works for next week. 504 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, those games too, even the Broncos game need a 505 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 5: little Shenanigans there at the end. 506 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: To even go over. 507 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 5: But outside of the first half in this game, this 508 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 5: was a comfortable under as well, because the Steelers did 509 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 5: not have much to worry about Jake Browning and the Bengals. 510 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: They were two and ten on third down. They had 511 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 5: no run game at all, and that's been an ongoing 512 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 5: issue for Cincey. It's not just Joe Burrow or not. 513 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 5: Joe Mixon in this run game just has not got 514 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 5: anything going. They only had twenty five total rushing yards. 515 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: And this was actually the first time in fifty eight 516 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: games that the Steelers went over four hundred yards of offense. 517 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 5: And that's one of the things that I wanted to 518 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 5: talk about is because we look at that and we're like, Wow, 519 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 5: Matt Canada's gone. 520 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: What a resurgence. 521 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 5: And I'm not going to pretend like I'm a Matt 522 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 5: Canada apologist here, but Kenny Pikett still looks awful for 523 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: the most part. Like Steelers were eight for thirteen on 524 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: third down today, six of those canted we're from the 525 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: run game. It was not from Kenny Picktt. We get 526 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 5: a lord sometimes with these deep bombs down the sideline 527 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: to George Pickens, and there was a nice connection between 528 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 5: him and Friarmuth today. I won't deny that, but I'm 529 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: not ready just to be like, oh, Okay, Matt Canada's gone. 530 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: Here comes the offensive resurgence by the Steelers team. And 531 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 5: now that we're looking at the AFC North with that 532 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 5: win today and the Browns. We'll talk about the Browns 533 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 5: Broncos later. The Browns did lose. So Browns are seven 534 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 5: and four, Steelers are seven and four in the AFC North, 535 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: Bengals down to five and six. Ravens playing the Chargers 536 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: right now, they're eight and three. They're likely going to 537 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 5: win that game to move the nine to three. But 538 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 5: right now the Steelers coming up. I've got the Cardinals, 539 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: They've got the Patriots, They've got the Colts, and then 540 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 5: the Bengals again, and then Seattle and then Baltimore. The 541 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: Steelers are going to backdoor their way into the playoffs, 542 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 5: even I think we just have to admit. I think 543 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 5: we just have to accept it now that even if 544 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 5: we don't like them, they're gonna make it there. 545 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't like Ken, you pick it against 546 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: Cincanty today because you thought they were facing Jake Browning 547 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: and maybe their defense was in like a bad leverage situation. Well, 548 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: let me tell you. They've got Arizona next week. So 549 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: I think Kenny's gonna look just fine again, and it's gonna, 550 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, kind of piss off people. Arizona's defense thinks 551 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: they get no pressure. They made the Rams look unbelievable today, 552 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: So my guess is it's probably gonna look similar, and 553 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: everyone's gonna say, you know, blame Canada as the people 554 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 2: in South Park. 555 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: Should we blame the governments or name society or should 556 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: we blame the images on team. 557 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: That's kind of the situation we're probably gonna run into here. Uh. 558 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: The one thing I will say, Tomlin Road unders uh 559 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: kind of a crazy one now eighty two fifty nine 560 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: as coach of the Steelers, So usually some good defense 561 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: in those games. 562 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 5: The Action Network podcast is presented by bet MGM used 563 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 5: bonus code Action when signing up to get up to 564 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 5: fifteen hundred dollars paid back in bonus bets if your 565 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: first bet loses. 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Early 571 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: Week thirteen lines? 572 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: Hot rap bo. 573 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: Seventay on ice rights ice cream Bosluda Radars nineteen seven 574 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: nineteen Hoorribille soul trade. 575 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 4: May all right. 576 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 6: Week thirteen hot read oh one and one last week. 577 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 6: Hopefully we at least got that Thanksgiving evening push with 578 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 6: the colv on the on there. But on the season, 579 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 6: Howard's still fourteen seven and one sixty seven percent hit 580 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 6: rate two out of every three ain't bad. We're going 581 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: right in on Week thirteen to the big game on 582 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 6: the slate, the San Francisco forty nine ers at the 583 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 6: Philadelphia Eagles. And what a game this is. We got 584 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 6: it last year in the SCU playoffs, but we didn't 585 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 6: really get it. 586 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: All the quarterbacks got hurt. 587 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 6: What a game this should be here the best team 588 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 6: in the NFL and a ten and one team they're 589 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 6: facing off against each other. 590 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: Get out of here with these stupid Eagles. 591 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 6: The Eagles get out gained by ninety eight yards, a 592 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 6: fourth straight win. 593 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: They're winning games. 594 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 6: They're getting outgained b one hundred yards, out gained by 595 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: against Buffalo one hundred and twenty seven yards. Their defense, 596 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 6: Philadelphia's defense can't get off the field right now. The 597 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 6: Bills just gave it away, which is what they've been 598 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: doing But enough with this winning DNA and all the 599 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 6: catchphrases you're hearing. Sometimes we just get lucky, right, We're 600 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 6: just getting lucky. The Eagles are seven to one in 601 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 6: one score games. Five of those wins are against teams 602 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 6: are five hundred or worse. So it should be more 603 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 6: important to us that the Eagles are getting into these 604 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 6: tight coin flip finishes against subpar teams or average teams 605 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 6: than it is that they're actually beating them with some luck. 606 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 6: At the end, the Niners are the better team coming 607 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: into the weekend. 608 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: Forty nine. 609 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 6: Ers are second in DVA, the Eagles. The ten and 610 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 6: one Eagles are tenth. They're tenth place out of thirty 611 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 6: two teams in DVA. Than Niners are number one on offense, 612 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 6: number one on passing offense, and those numbers are going 613 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 6: up since Week eight once they got everyone back healthy. 614 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 6: We know they have that three game losing streak. It 615 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 6: turns out that was just because everyone was hurt, including 616 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 6: Trent Williams, big underrated part of their offensive line. Now 617 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 6: they're all back, they're rolling again. They rolled right through 618 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: Seattle on the road that Thanksgiving night game. The Eagles 619 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 6: are going the opposite direction Eagles pass defense nineteenth by 620 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 6: DVA and trending. They just aren't able to get off 621 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 6: the field right now, especially on third down on Sunday, 622 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 6: bottom half of the league DV away on defense. That 623 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 6: is not the profile of a ten to one team, 624 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 6: which is kind of what we're saying here. So in particular, 625 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 6: this matchup, this is one I've had circled since early 626 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 6: in the season. 627 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: We knew this was coming. 628 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 6: I think this is a matchup that leans totally in 629 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: the niners favor because of the middle of the field. 630 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 6: The Eagles defense invests heavily on the line and at cornerback. 631 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 6: They did not bring in linebackers. They were getting killed Sunday, 632 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 6: couldn't even get off the field against the Bills, who 633 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 6: don't even run the ball that much, and there's running 634 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 6: like three four times straight up the middle first downs 635 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 6: late in the game. Again, should have kept with and 636 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 6: won the game, but the Niners are gonna stick with 637 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 6: that sort of thing. The middle of the field is 638 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 6: where the Niners live. This is where they thrive on defense. 639 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 6: You got Fred Warner, you got Dray Greenlaw. They controlled 640 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 6: the middle of the field. That's where San Francisco is 641 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 6: elite defensively up against that run that Philly is so 642 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: good at in those middle pass and on the other side, 643 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 6: Eagles are dead last DVA against tight end. So I 644 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 6: think George Kittle has a big game. And that middle 645 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 6: of the field where the Niners like to operate, those 646 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 6: play actions, those throws over the middle where pretty likes 647 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 6: to throw, I think they can really eat up the 648 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 6: Eagles defense here. So this is the one that we've 649 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 6: been waiting for. We wanted it last year, we didn't 650 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 6: really get to see it with all the injuries we're 651 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 6: getting in Now I'm grabbing it right away. Give me 652 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers minus one point fifteen on the 653 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 6: money line. 654 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 4: They are the better team. 655 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 6: And we're gonna stick with two teams that are the 656 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: hottest teams supposedly in football on five game winning streaks. 657 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 6: We're gonna fade the Broncos too, and right go right 658 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 6: back to Texans Island. Give me the Texans minus two 659 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 6: and a half against the Broncos. Denver continues to have 660 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 6: insane turnover luck. The Browns had five fumbles on Sunday, 661 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 6: and of course only recovered two of them. Denver is 662 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 6: getting these easy points off of that, they've now faced 663 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 6: a third string quarterback to two weeks in a row. 664 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 6: Those five wins that they've had, four of those are 665 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 6: in Denver, with the atmosphere there. We know how good 666 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 6: Denver is at home. Denver is much worse on the 667 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 6: road by offense, especially, they're fringe top ten offense at home. 668 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 6: We saw them do a little bit against Cleveland, a 669 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 6: tough defense, but they're a bottom seven defense on the 670 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 6: road by DVA. Look, these teams are both six and five. 671 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 6: They're tied with the Colts for the seven seed. So 672 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 6: this is basically a playoff game here. What would you 673 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 6: do if this was a playoff game? 674 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: How would you cap it? 675 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 6: Let's just keep it simple. How about the better team 676 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 6: with the better quarterback, the better coach playing at home? Right, 677 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 6: it's not that hard minus two and a half. Basically, 678 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 6: we're saying these teams are rated about equally and giving 679 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 6: the home field advantage. I don't think these teams are 680 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 6: rated equally. For me, Denver's defense has gotten much better 681 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 6: the season has gone along. Obviously, hard to get worse 682 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 6: after you give up seventy in a game, but the 683 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 6: past has been good at trust CG. I started to 684 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 6: find some answers in the pass rush isn't getting home. 685 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 6: When Stroud has time, he gets the job done. And 686 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 6: the Denver run defense is so bad that even Houston, 687 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 6: I think, can run them a little bit. So Houston's 688 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 6: pass defense, that's their weakest spot. We saw Trevor Lawrence 689 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 6: get to them on Sunday. I don't think Russell Wilson 690 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 6: can do that anymore. And they don't really scare anyone 691 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 6: on that side of the ball. So minus two and 692 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 6: a half. That's below the key number. You know how 693 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 6: that goes. You might get a minus three by the 694 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 6: time that you grab this. I still like it there. 695 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 6: We're probably gonna get it above the key number by 696 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 6: the end of the week. So I'm grabbing Texans Island now. 697 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 6: I don't think these teams are even I want the 698 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 6: home team. I want the better quarterback and the better team. 699 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 6: So give me Texans minus two and a half. Week thirteen, 700 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 6: hogh reads forty nine ers, minus one fifteen on the 701 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 6: money line at the Eagles, and right back to Texans 702 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 6: Island minus two and a half against the Broncos. 703 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 5: Thank you, Brandon. Now Van, let's talk Browns Broncos. We 704 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 5: previewed it a little bit earlier there just talk about 705 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 5: the AFC North, But let's talk about this game between 706 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 5: Browns Broncos where the Broncos do win twenty nine to twelve, 707 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 5: and the total of thirty seven and a half, as 708 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 5: you mentioned earlier, does go over in the Broncos cover 709 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 5: as one and a half point home favorites against arguably 710 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 5: the best defense in the NFL. I don't feel like 711 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 5: I'm saying anything hot take here, but the Broncos now 712 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 5: six straight wins, Evan, They're six and five now, and 713 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 5: they've got the Texans, pretty tough matchup, and the Lions, Chargers, 714 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 5: Patriots and Chargers. 715 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 4: It's not an easy. 716 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 5: Road to the AFC playoff picture here, But if you 717 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: had asked me at Week three, after that Broncos Dolphins 718 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 5: game where they gave up seventy points, do you think 719 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 5: the Broncos can win make the AFC playoffs? I would 720 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 5: have asked you to like check yourself in rehab for 721 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 5: like drugs or something, man, because there is no way 722 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 5: that I would have thought the Broncos would be able 723 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: to kind of get to this stage where they are 724 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 5: in the season now. 725 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: Six and five, crazy to even look at the standings. 726 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: The thing that's the issue at the current moment, Broncos fans, 727 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: Broncos betters, anyone invested in their positive future is at 728 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: Houston at Chargers at Lions, three straight road games. I 729 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: mean there's a real possibility it's own three. But I 730 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 2: mean it's just yeah, it's it's a tough road ahead. 731 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: So I think the schedule doesn't give them any favors. 732 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: I think the situation today helped them out. I think 733 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: Dorian Thomson Robinson didn't do them, you know, didn't make 734 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: it hard on their defense. So with that and I'm 735 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't even remember their future for Dorian Thomson Robinson. 736 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: I believe PJ. Walker came into the game. Be sure 737 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,959 Speaker 2: what the status is going to look like next week 738 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: when Cleveland has to go to the Rams. But either way, 739 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: I think Denver got a little bit of a gift 740 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: and I think they've looked great, right. I think the 741 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: defense which was thirty second I believe in Dvowa within 742 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 2: the first four or five six pros defense man, it's 743 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: bad and now it's better. It's been better. It's not great, 744 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 2: but I think it's better. And I think it's really 745 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: helped them, but the road gets tough. You get the 746 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: Texans off a loss, you're going to get the Chargers 747 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 2: who look like they're losing right now, all desperate as ever, 748 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: So through straight road games not easy. The ones that 749 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 2: I will say not great for Denver one in ten 750 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: right now against a third quarter spread eight and twenty 751 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: third quarter spread last two seasons, so coming out of 752 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,959 Speaker 2: the locker room has been really really slow. So maybe 753 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: something to take advantage of on this road trip for them. 754 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 5: Well, the one thing too, and I don't want to 755 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 5: knock the Browns too much as far as their defense goes, 756 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 5: because there's only so much they can do when they 757 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 5: get virtually nothing on offense. 758 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 4: Both PJ. 759 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 5: Walker and Dorian Thompson Robinson combined for one hundred and 760 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 5: sixty two passing yards. They were two and fourteen on 761 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 5: third down. But even the Browns defense just attrition as this. 762 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 5: As the game goes, the Broncos rush at running offense. 763 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 5: They had only scored one rushing touchdown the entire year 764 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 5: entering this game. That's their first two touchdowns of the game, 765 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 5: with a touchdown to Jivante and another touchdown to Russell Wilson. Sorry, 766 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 5: Samajah p Run scored the opening touchdown of the game. 767 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 5: Because again Russell, this past events by the Browns is 768 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 5: still really good. He only threw for one hundred and 769 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 5: thirty four passing yards today, So it's not like they 770 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,959 Speaker 5: were just marching down the field. There was just never 771 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 5: a point where the Browns were in a position to 772 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 5: keep that defense off the field. They were just constantly 773 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 5: playing from behind here. So the Brown's now seven and four. 774 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 5: They've got the Rams, the Jags, Bears, Texans, and Jets, 775 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 5: probably enough to make the playoffs at this point. But 776 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: if they went one in four in that stretch just 777 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 5: because of what they can do offensively, that would not 778 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 5: shock me either, And I would not be surprised if 779 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 5: the Browns just end up slowly backing away from the 780 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 5: playoff picture just because they can't do anything offensively. 781 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a scary proposition with their quarterback situation, assuming 782 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: that Walker and dtr are the options every week, and 783 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: even if you bring in a Flacco or something like that, 784 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: it's not going to get that much better. So week 785 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: in and week out, a lot of pressure on the 786 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 2: defense and you have some defense, decent offenses coming up, 787 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: like you said, Rams Jaguars, So it's gonna put a 788 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 2: lot of pressure on the quarterback to what are points 789 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: and it's just not great for them. And I'm invested 790 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. I'd love for them to make the playoffs, 791 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: but I didn't expect h No Watson. 792 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 5: So yeah, and I mean, really, it's just gonna it's 793 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: just a lot of thirteen to ten games that you're 794 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 5: gonna see coming up with that team. 795 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: Record twenty twenty nine. Today, you just can't have that. 796 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: Cleveland's never going to win a game close, No, not 797 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: even close. 798 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 5: All right, let's move to the NFC South Saints Falcons 799 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 5: play today. Falcons win twenty four to fifteen, uh, winning 800 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 5: outright as home dogs, but they do go under the 801 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 5: toll of forty one and a half. 802 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 4: Derek Carr is a favorite. 803 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 5: This game was very frustrating, like for me because I 804 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 5: will sit there and evaluate quarterbacks. I'm betting on quarterback interceptions, 805 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 5: I'm doing all that stuff. So obviously the interception part 806 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 5: worked out really well, but if you're betting on offense 807 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 5: from these two teams, it is the most frustrating thing 808 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 5: in the world other than maybe like getting your kid 809 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 5: dressed and ready for school because like Desmond Rider at 810 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 5: quarterback just makes me want to slam my head against 811 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 5: the wall. Hat two interceptions today, there's horrible decision making 812 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 5: on third down Arthur Smith, and this team is using 813 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: a three running back committee right now. Vijon is averaging 814 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 5: over six yards per carry in the game and they're 815 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 5: still running it with Cordero Patterson like the corpse of 816 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 5: Cordero Patterson still getting carries in this offense. So now 817 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 5: with the Falcons winning, they by default lead the NFC 818 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 5: South at five and six, the Saints also at five 819 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 5: and six, Bucks just behind them at four and seven, 820 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 5: and we don't need to talk about the Panthers at 821 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 5: one in ten. But Derek Carr and the Saints team 822 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 5: is likely going to be favorites in a couple of 823 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 5: games here upcoming. They've got the Lions, Panthers, Giants, Rams, Bucks, Falcons. 824 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 5: They'll likely be favorites in four of those six games 825 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 5: because they'll be hosting the Falcons of Week eighteen at 826 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 5: home this time. But the reason why I bring that 827 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 5: up is I don't think you want to take the 828 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 5: Saints in that spot because Derek Carr is a favorite 829 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 5: has just been awful as a spread beat eighteen thirty 830 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 5: seven and two against the spread. That means if you 831 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 5: faded Derek Carr as a favorite every game in his career, 832 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 5: you would have won sixty eight percent of the time. 833 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 5: That is the worst ATS percentage in twenty years. 834 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 4: For a quarterback. 835 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be rough. They do have three straight 836 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: home games, so the Saints will be in the Dome 837 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: for Lions, Panthers, Giants. Probably favorite in the Panthers and 838 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 2: Giants games, dog against the Lions. Yeah, either way. The 839 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: situation in the division I think is probably the most interesting. 840 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 2: The Falcons. You look at the standings, you're like, oh wow, 841 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: they are three and zero against the NFC South. They 842 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 2: are now tied with the Saints at the top, which 843 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: is actually important because you assume New Orleans is going 844 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: to go two and one in those three games, and 845 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 2: Atlanta now travels to the Jets and then faces the Bucks, 846 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: so you know, shrug emoji, put up my shoulders. Who 847 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 2: knows what's going to happen there. From a stats point 848 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: of view, this is probably the worst of the worst, 849 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: so Dennis Allen, which even if you look win percentage 850 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: overall like since nineteen ninety. And you know, even when 851 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 2: you go further back, he's one of the worst head 852 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: coaches you could possibly have. I believe he's like twenty 853 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: and forty four something of that nature. But he is 854 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 2: now five fourteen and two against the spread versus divisional opponents, 855 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: with both the Raiders and the Saints. That is the 856 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: worst for any head coach, not only in the last 857 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: twenty years, but in the wildcard ri since nineteen ninety 858 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 2: worst win percentage. So Dennis Allen not coming through. And 859 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 2: when you watch this game and you said to yourself, well, 860 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 2: the Saints are going to give it to the Falcons, 861 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: and the Falcons are going to get back to the 862 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 2: Saints kind of how it felt. And then all of 863 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 2: a sudden, Arthur Smith said, well, we're going to give 864 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: it to v John Robinson. And then it worked. Not 865 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 2: only that Atlanta covered the first half for the first 866 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 2: time what feels like forever, and then they won the game. 867 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: So it was a recipe for a win. And will 868 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: it keep going, like will it continue against a Jets 869 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: defense next week? Who knows? 870 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Just the Saints team like five 871 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 5: trips to the red zone and you come away with 872 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 5: five field goals. By the third field goal, it's like, okay, 873 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 5: on the fourth one, We're going for it on fourth 874 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 5: and whatever. 875 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 4: I don't care. 876 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 5: We just can't keep settling for field goals here. And 877 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 5: that was part of the thing, is like, since someone 878 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 5: need to explain to Dennis Allen that seven is more 879 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 5: than three and this other team is scoring touchdowns on you. 880 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 5: And by the third quarter, it was the infirmary award 881 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 5: for the Saints. Like Chrystal Lave had to go to 882 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 5: the Blue rashichiheb left the game. Juwan Johnson's banged up. 883 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 4: He left the game. 884 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 5: So you're seeing third string running backs and wide receivers 885 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 5: out there that were on the practice squad a couple 886 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 5: weeks ago, which was kind of impressive that the Saints 887 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 5: were still able to march down the field. But you 888 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 5: could see even with Derek Carr, they're forty five percent 889 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 5: right now in red zone conversion percentage to score a touchdown. 890 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 5: That's twenty third. 891 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 4: In the NFL. 892 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 5: So not as quite as bad as what you see 893 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 5: from like the Giants and the Jets. But the reason 894 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 5: why I feel like it's just as bad is because 895 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 5: we have expectations. We think, with all this talent on 896 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 5: this Saints team, they should be able to convert when 897 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 5: they get into scoring position. But you have Derek Carr quarterback, 898 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 5: and that's what happens. All right, Chiefs Raiders. Let's move 899 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 5: over now, because I don't want to talk about Derek 900 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 5: Carr anymore. All right, Chiefs Raiders. Chiefs win thirty one 901 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 5: to seventeen total of forty three. Does go over and 902 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 5: the chief says big favorites nine point favorites do cover 903 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 5: and win easily. Now, when I say easily, if you 904 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 5: only watched from the second quarter to the fourth quarter, 905 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 5: of course it was easy. But the first quarter Raiders 906 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 5: came out pretty strong, punched Chiefs in the mouth. 907 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 4: Right off the hop. 908 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 5: They go up by fourteen. Josh Jacobs has a nice 909 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 5: touchdown run. But then like I went to the bathroom, 910 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 5: I come back, it's fourteen to seven. I go back 911 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 5: up to get a drink. It's now tied fourteen to fourteen. 912 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 5: It was that fast of how quickly they scored in 913 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 5: the second quarter. But then the Chiefs they outscored them 914 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 5: seventeen to three, and the second half never really had 915 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 5: to trail in that spot, they weren't really too worried. 916 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 5: In the second half, Isaiah Checko kind of took over. 917 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 5: But an interesting trend about the Chiefs, Evan is now 918 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 5: the Chiefs have now gone under the second half total 919 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 5: in all eleven games this season. So if you're live 920 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 5: betting and you're looking at the second half, and you 921 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 5: were to bet their second half total and go under, 922 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 5: you would be profitable. Now in all eleven games this. 923 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 2: Season, it's been absolutely nuts. Now they've did a little 924 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 2: bit more scoring in this game. Obviously, I mean they 925 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: scored thirty one in the end, but even in the 926 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, you know they only put up ten. Wasn't explosive, 927 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: But yes, you're right when you watch this game early on, 928 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: I thought Vegas was going to stay in it. There's 929 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 2: still something not completely right with Kansas City's offense. I 930 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 2: think you saw it early on where you had the 931 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 2: Jacobs run and just things didn't you know, flow right. 932 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: I think for them on offense, they just don't have 933 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: enough weapons, and I think, you know, Vegas puts some 934 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: pressure on them, but I think O'Connell wasn't good enough. 935 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 2: Late in the game. Mahomes did his thing. I think 936 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 2: the Raiders probably should have covered here some crazy stats. 937 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: So Raiders zero penalties and zero turnovers. You know, when 938 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 2: you're plus nine a home in that situation, you probably 939 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 2: and fifty percent on third down you don't get the cover. 940 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: Feels a little tough, but here here's one for you. 941 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 2: So Raiders teams are fifteen and two straight up when 942 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: no penalties and no turnovers and not the Raiders today. 943 00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: So tough spot. 944 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 5: The Chiefs now eight and three in the standings, tied 945 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 5: with the Jaguars at eight and three, but obviously would 946 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 5: have the tiebreaker based on their win earlier in the season. 947 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 5: But upcoming schedule now they've got the Packers and then 948 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 5: they host the Bills, play the Patriots, and then end 949 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 5: the season with Raiders, Bengals and Chargers. 950 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: Not really a. 951 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 5: Difficult schedule for the Chiefs, But again, with some of 952 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 5: those issues that you were talking about and how offensively 953 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 5: how they can stall, don't want to just pretend like, oh, 954 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 5: that's an easy six to zero, because that's one of 955 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 5: the things I feel like with this team. They might 956 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 5: drop one to maybe the Bills or you know, maybe 957 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 5: the Chargers in Week eighteen because they already have. 958 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 4: The one seed locked up like that kind of thing. 959 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 5: So I just would be a little cautious of whether 960 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 5: or not I would feel great about if I had 961 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 5: chiefs for number one seed in the AFC right now. 962 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 5: So just leaving that there, and then the Raiders they're 963 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 5: five and seven. Now, I'm not going to cross them 964 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 5: off because anything can happen, but looking at their upcoming schedule, 965 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 5: it's not good. So offensively, they still are not clicking 966 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 5: with DeVante Adams and An O'Connell yet, so I think 967 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 5: at this stage, let's call them a write off, not 968 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 5: just a cross off. We'll just write them off, but 969 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 5: we're not going to cross them off. 970 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 4: The list yet. 971 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 2: Casey's in green Bay next week, that is Sunday Night Football. 972 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 2: That's seven is disappearing. I kind of like that for 973 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 2: green Bay. So obviously you know late podcast right now 974 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 2: depending on the timing, but I really do think That's 975 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 2: seven's disappearing. So we'll see if you get it. 976 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 5: Oh hot read by Evan Watch out, Brandon, it's gonna 977 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 5: take your job, all right, Bucks Colts. Colts win twenty 978 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 5: seven to twenty. Total does go over a forty five, 979 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,720 Speaker 5: and the Colts do cover as three point home favorites 980 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 5: Colts now six to five, They've won three straight games, 981 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 5: and their upcoming schedule, they've got the Titans, the Bengals, Steelers, Falcons, Raiders, Texans. 982 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 5: When you look at this upcoming slate, Evan Sure and 983 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 5: you only see, really, the Texans is maybe the most 984 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 5: formidable team that they would have to face the rest 985 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 5: of the way. Am I taking crazy pills and thinking 986 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 5: that the Colts are a low key sleeper to make 987 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 5: the playoffs in the AFC? Because entering this week they 988 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 5: were plus odds to make the playoffs at most sports books, 989 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 5: But if the playoffs started today, they'd be the seventh 990 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 5: seed in the AFC. 991 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 2: I just here's my thing. I have a blind spot, 992 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 2: and I know I do. But it's okay because I 993 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: could admit it. I just don't have faith in Gardner Minshew. 994 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 4: No, that's fine. 995 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 2: I just and the thing that's funny is is I 996 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 2: even remember earlier in this season I loved Anthony Richardson. 997 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 2: I thought what he brought to the table was dynamic. 998 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 2: I thought he made the Colts a better team with 999 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: him and versus Minshew. And I still believe that to 1000 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: this day. But obviously I'm wrong on some level because 1001 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 2: the Colts are six and five, and I would probably 1002 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 2: guess they would probably lose some of these games with 1003 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 2: Richardson versus Minshew's experience, I guess, so clearly have a 1004 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 2: blind spot. So going forward, something needs to be adjusted 1005 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: in my process here. Now they're at Tennessee and at 1006 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 2: Cincinnati the next two weeks. Oh lucky, then not facing 1007 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: Tannehill and not facing Burrow. But I'm not sure. I 1008 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 2: don't think I'm going to be able to change my 1009 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 2: process too much in how I think Minshew is turnover prone. 1010 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 2: And but that's the thing that I have to really 1011 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: start believing is Indy puts up points. Right, They're seven 1012 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 2: and four to the over, tied for the best in 1013 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 2: the NFL. They're nine and two team total over. They 1014 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 2: had that streak of twenty and you know, I believe, yeah, 1015 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 2: twenty plus points in all those games. So Indy scores 1016 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 2: no matter who's a quarterback, no matter what's going on, 1017 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 2: they figure out a way to put points on the board. 1018 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 4: And the run game is coming back. Like that's the 1019 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 4: thing too. 1020 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 5: With Jonathan Taylor is healthy, you can kind of hide 1021 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 5: maybe some of those issues with Gardner Minshew. I mean 1022 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 5: Minshew has four rushing touchdowns himself this year. He ran 1023 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 5: for one today as well. But what was funny is 1024 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 5: when I wrote this down, because I wrote this at 1025 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 5: halftime when they were up, you know, like two scores 1026 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 5: on the Bucks, and then Gardner Mitshew immediately throws an interception, 1027 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, scrap that. I don't know if I 1028 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 5: want to talk like, I don't know, but their defense 1029 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 5: has actually played really wells is, like, over the last 1030 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 5: three games, they've only given up thirty nine points, and 1031 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 5: that was a real source spot for them, especially in 1032 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 5: the secondary that they were just giving hemorrhaging. 1033 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 4: Points via the pass right. 1034 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 2: So definitely we'll see where this goes. 1035 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 5: But again, the Colts little frisky, especially if they're able 1036 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 5: to lean on Jonathan Taylor. They're not going to have 1037 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 5: any home games or anything in the playoffs. But I 1038 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 5: feel like with a run game like that, and if 1039 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 5: their defense shows up, they could at least give a 1040 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,760 Speaker 5: team a give a team. 1041 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 4: A go in the opening round of the playoffs. 1042 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 5: So all right, let's run through these final three games. 1043 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 5: They were all pretty much blowouts. Rams Cardinals. Rams win 1044 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,760 Speaker 5: thirty seven to fourteen total goes over. Rams win easily 1045 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 5: as two and a half point home favorites, and nothing 1046 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 5: really shocking out of this one. I mean, when Stafford 1047 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 5: has time, he looks like the best quarterback in the NFL, 1048 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 5: and when he doesn't, like I said last week, he 1049 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 5: looks like the old man and who fell. 1050 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 4: On the sidewalk. Like that's really what happens. 1051 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,439 Speaker 5: Four passing touchdowns. Kyler Murray did rush for another touchdown today, 1052 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 5: two three straight weeks of hitting a touchdown. Bet over 1053 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 5: plus two hundred, So keep an eye out for that 1054 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 5: with Kyler Murray all right. Panthers Titans. Titans wins seventeen 1055 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 5: to ten. The total goes under of thirty six. Titans 1056 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 5: do cover as three and a half point home favorites. 1057 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 5: Panthers now one in ten straight up this year, and they, 1058 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 5: along with Frank Reich, depending on your POV, continue to 1059 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 5: either be a cash cow by fading them or you 1060 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 5: are hemorrhaging money by the week if you bet on them, 1061 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 5: because dating back to last season, Frank Braich coach teams 1062 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 5: are two to ten and one against the spread. That's 1063 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 5: over their last thirteen games that he has coached. And 1064 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 5: now the Panthers entered today as oz On favorites to 1065 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 5: have the worst record in the NFL. That market has 1066 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 5: yet to reopen, but I can't imagine what their upcoming schedule. 1067 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 5: The Panthers will win, maybe more than one game, so 1068 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 5: we're probably looking at a two and fifteen Panthers team 1069 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 5: that will then yield that first overall pick to the Bears, 1070 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 5: depending on how the rest of this Patriots season goes. 1071 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 5: Patriots Giants Giants win ten to seven. Evan is a 1072 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 5: low key Giants fan, maybe not as prominent as he 1073 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 5: used to be back in the day, but I'm sure 1074 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 5: he was fist pumping the entire time watching the Giants 1075 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 5: get another win over the New England Patriots, because the 1076 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 5: Patriots were actually road favorites four and a half point 1077 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 5: road favorites, and the under of thirty five and a 1078 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 5: half does hit very comfortably. Now, Evan, you were on 1079 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 5: this from the start of the season. The Pats fall 1080 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 5: to two and nine in the standings, the Cardinals are 1081 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 5: two and ten, and the Panthers are one in ten, 1082 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 5: So that's the three way race right now for the 1083 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 5: first overall pick. But I said this to my buddies 1084 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 5: watching this game, and I thought that this was actually 1085 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 5: a masterstroke by Bill Belichick, because this is somebody who 1086 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 5: knows the history of the game, knows what's a good quarterback, 1087 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 5: what's a bad quarterback. He knows how bad Mac Jones is. 1088 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 5: There's no way that he doesn't know what Mac Jones 1089 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 5: Cannon can't do. He's seen the film, and he puts 1090 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 5: Mac out there. All week, we didn't know who's gonna 1091 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 5: be the starting quarterback, but it was gonna be him, Zappy. 1092 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 4: He put Mac out there knowing it's gonna go bad, 1093 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 4: and then when it. 1094 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,919 Speaker 5: Blows up in everybody's faces, he's got plausible deniability to say, look, 1095 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 5: I put Mac out there, didn't work out, but then 1096 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 5: also simultaneously enabling the tank by switching quarterbacks at halftime, 1097 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 5: switching quarterbacks for. 1098 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 4: The game winning drive. 1099 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 5: For me, dude, this is to me, this is the 1100 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 5: low key tank of tanks. And honestly, I'm kind of 1101 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 5: impressed by the Patriots for doing that. I didn't think 1102 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 5: I'd get any worse. Uh, they missed the field goal 1103 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 5: to tie it up, but yeah, this is just h 1104 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 5: This is chess. This isn't checkers, man, This is what 1105 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 5: they're doing right now, and it's a tank job. That's 1106 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 5: low key stealth. 1107 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 2: I mean, they have no other options. What else they 1108 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,439 Speaker 2: would you like them to do? I mean they woke 1109 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 2: up this morning and cut Will Greer and then they 1110 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 2: said to themselves, are we're gonna play Mac and they're 1111 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 2: gonna play Bailey and they're gonna go It's just they've 1112 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 2: got no other options. So Bill's just playing the Listen 1113 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 2: he called in that field goal. I'm going to say 1114 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 2: it right now. There was no way. I mean, there's 1115 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: no interest at all in winning that game today and 1116 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 2: making anybody look good on any level. There's just there, 1117 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 2: there's no interest in it. There's no there's no reason 1118 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 2: for any of it. To keep losing. Lose away has 1119 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 2: to be what they. 1120 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 1: Want to do. 1121 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 5: It has to be what they have to do, especially 1122 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 5: because the Giants they were vibably buying for that number 1123 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 5: one spot too, So whoever lost that game was likely 1124 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 5: going to be a top three position no matter what. 1125 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 5: So they had to lose this game that they were 1126 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 5: going to try to go for the top overall spot. 1127 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: But even if you look at it, the emotion of 1128 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 2: the day felt so different right the New England sideline. 1129 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: Even if they had won that game, just felt like 1130 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 2: the Giants had emotion. They felt like they wanted to 1131 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: win on the New York sideline, like, you know, barring 1132 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 2: all the other stuff that you know, you probably didn't 1133 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 2: want to win for a lot of different reasons, you know, 1134 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: de Vito everybody was, you know, ecstatic at the situation. 1135 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 2: There's something off in New England. 1136 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it should be interesting to see kind of 1137 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 5: how the rest of this year goes. I'm not even 1138 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 5: gonna ask you the question of, oh, do you think 1139 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 5: Mac Jones is gonna start next week, because I'll say it, 1140 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 5: I actually think that's what Bill Belichick. 1141 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 4: Is gonna do the rest of the year. 1142 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 5: And he's gonna say, you're gonna take your medicine and 1143 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 5: you're gonna eat shit, and you're gonna eat it in 1144 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 5: front of everybody. Because he had two picks and a 1145 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 5: fumble in the first half. It was one of the 1146 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 5: worst quarterback performances I've seen this season. And I rail 1147 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 5: on Desmond Ritter and Zach Wilson every week on this podcast. 1148 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,919 Speaker 5: So can you imagine how bad Mac Jones looked today? 1149 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 2: The only bad thing for Mac next week if he starts, 1150 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: is that they play the Chargers. You know it's gonna 1151 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 2: be a one score game, a. 1152 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 5: One score game, and a game where he'll actually look 1153 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 5: good passing because that Charger secondary makes every quarterback look 1154 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 5: like a pro bowler. So maybe this is the bounce 1155 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 5: back week that everybody's been banking on with Mac Jones. 1156 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 5: All right, So that's the full Sunday Slate. Let's check 1157 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 5: in with Patrick Everson from Vegas Insider to see how 1158 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 5: sportsbook fared in Las Vegas for week twelve. 1159 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 4: Patrick, thanks a. 1160 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: Lot, Jill, appreciate you having me on the Action Network 1161 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: podcast again. And this was a good NFL Sunday for betters, 1162 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: as bad as Thursday was for the betters. Once the 1163 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: Lions lost that game, it was going to be an 1164 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: uphill battle for betters the rest of the way on 1165 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: Thursday on Thanksgiving because everybody had the Lions, the betters 1166 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: were scrambling from there. It was a great Thursday for 1167 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: the books, but today was not so good and it 1168 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: started slow the early kicks, the early window. 1169 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 4: It was kind of a toss up. 1170 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 1: I talked to two different odds makers here in Las 1171 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: Vegas on this Sunday evening. One odds maker said the 1172 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: early games, mixed bag sharps were on Indy, so we 1173 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: lost that, but sharps were also on Carolina and we 1174 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: won that. And he said it was just really an 1175 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: uninspiring early slate, and that meant a lack of regular 1176 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: public interest. The late slate had the Chiefs in it 1177 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: and had the Eagles in it, and the betters were 1178 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: on the Chiefs and the Eagles, and they were on 1179 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens on Sunday night. And even though it was 1180 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: a little back and forth, another odds maker said, we 1181 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: eked out a small win in those early games. The 1182 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: six sides we needed, they went three and three. The 1183 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: four totals they needed, they. 1184 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 4: Went two and two. 1185 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: So now it's all going to these later games, and 1186 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: you've got very popular teams, very public teams, and the 1187 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Eagles, and then of course on Sunday 1188 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: night the Ravens. All three of those teams won and covered. 1189 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: I think the eagles closing number was two and a half, 1190 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: so they just did get there. And all three were 1191 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: certainly in the money line parlays and so forth. So 1192 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: it went downhill quickly for the odds makers and went 1193 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: very good, very positive for the betters. One ons maker 1194 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: said after the late window of kicks heading into the 1195 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: Sunday night game, he said, Bill's Eagles game not good, 1196 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City really not good, and perhaps surprising, he said, 1197 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: Rams probably the worst of all the rams running over 1198 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. There was apparently a lot of interest in 1199 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: the rams today, at least out here in Las Vegas, 1200 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: and he turned it a bloodbath. He said, it was 1201 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: just a very bad late slate of games, and then 1202 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: it got worse with the Ravens winning. And the way 1203 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: he put it after that was he said, that is 1204 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: as bad a Sunday as you can have. So it 1205 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: was definitely bad behind the counter and great on this 1206 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: side of the counter of the public. Betters definitely had 1207 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: a good day with a very strong finishing kick. Oh 1208 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: I should add from betem GM specifically here Scott Sheldon 1209 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: that BETAMGM Nevada said of today, he was very succint. 1210 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 4: We got crushed. 1211 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: In looking at actually some of betam Gym's numbers on 1212 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: today's games, you can kind of tell why the most 1213 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: bet teams by spread ticket count Eagles, Raven Steelers all 1214 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: three win and cover, and then the most bet teams 1215 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: by money Eagles Jaguars. Steelers Eagles Jaguars both get there 1216 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: on the spread. So between that and the way these 1217 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: teams were Keaton parlays and so forth money line parlays, 1218 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: it was definitely ended up being a good day for 1219 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: the betting public. Now looking to the Monday night game, 1220 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: which isn't really an exhilarating matchup with the Bear and 1221 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: the Vikings. On Sunday at BETMGM, it was two way 1222 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: action on the spread, fifty seven percent of bets on 1223 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings, fifty eight percent of money on the Bears, 1224 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of interesting, Bears getting more 1225 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: money on the road as an underdog and the Bears 1226 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily being seen as being that good. And if 1227 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: you go over to the money line, similar situation, fifty 1228 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: eight percent of tickets on Minnesota, fifty five percent of 1229 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: money on the Bears. And if you look at the 1230 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: total for that game in case you're curious about that 1231 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: two way ticketccount almost dead even Ticke account, but seventy 1232 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: eight percent of money on the under and that total's 1233 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: come down it looks like it's come down a couple 1234 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: of points. Now looking toward next week, Week thirteen got 1235 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: a handful of pretty good games on the docket. The 1236 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: biggest and best one among them, no doubt, rematch the 1237 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, and it's in the same city. The 1238 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles get to host the San Francisco forty nine 1239 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Ers again. Now I thought this was kind of interesting. 1240 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: I talked about an odds maker on Sunday night here 1241 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, and he said, we went back and 1242 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: forth on this line, eventually settling on pick them so 1243 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: open this game, pick them didn't even make Philly a 1244 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: favorite after the Eagles exhilarating overtime win against the Buffalo Bills, 1245 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: and then what happened after that kind of surprised me 1246 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: a little bit too. San fran goes to minus one 1247 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: and minus one and a half right out of the 1248 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: gate on Sunday night here in Vegas for this particular 1249 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: odds maker, and what the oddsmaker said was, the Eagles 1250 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 1: are in the middle of such a difficult stretch and 1251 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: the power rating for San Fran is out of this world, 1252 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: which I think was a pretty interesting comment. He said, 1253 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: we expected plenty of two way action, and this game 1254 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: figures to be among the highest handle games of the 1255 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: entire season. That should be a tremendous game. The Thursday 1256 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: night game could be good. We'll see if the Seattle 1257 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Seahawks decide they want to get back on track here. 1258 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: But the odds maker that I spoke with here in Vegas, 1259 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: he opened Dallas minus seven minus one, which was a 1260 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: slight adjustment from just the minus seven flat of the 1261 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: look aheadline last week. But they went to seven and 1262 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: a half right away pretty much on this on this 1263 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,919 Speaker 1: Sunday night, I think it came pretty quickly to seven 1264 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 1: and a half, literally within ninety seconds. And what the 1265 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: oddsmaker said is we didn't want to go too high 1266 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: because this could be a potential bounce back spot for 1267 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: Seattle to compete for a lot longer than it did 1268 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving against San Francisco. But he said, as is 1269 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: often the case, we'll be rooting against the Cowboys. I'm 1270 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: sure the public will be all over them. And then 1271 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. I alluded to them at the top 1272 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: with their loss on Thanksgiving Day, which obviously set the 1273 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: table for the books to have a really good Thanksgiving 1274 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: and for the better is to get kind of beat up, 1275 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: especially everybody playing those favorite money line parlays on Thanksgiving 1276 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: and this game was minus three on the look ahead 1277 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Detroit minus three, so really they weren't really favorite Detroit 1278 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: by very much considered how good it season Detroit's had overall. 1279 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: They did reopen this on Sunday night at minus three 1280 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: and a half Detroit because New Orleans is pretty banged up. 1281 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 1: The oddsmaker said New Orleans looks like it's about out 1282 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: of players, and he said the Saints look bad today 1283 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: against Atlanta. He said it will be interesting to see 1284 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: how the public reacts to Detroit after it looks so 1285 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: bad on Thanksgiving. And again they've got allions a minus 1286 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: three and a half. 1287 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 2: In this game. 1288 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: So there we have it a little bit of a 1289 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: recap of the weekend. The betters rebound in the NFL 1290 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: from a difficult Thanksgiving Thursday, get a good late run 1291 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday with the Chiefs and the Eagles the Ravens 1292 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: to make some money and really take it to the books. 1293 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, one haunts maker called it a blood 1294 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 1: bath and another one said it was really bad. So 1295 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,439 Speaker 1: definitely a good day for the betters. We'll look ahead 1296 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: of the Monday nighter and to look at some of 1297 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: next week's games. 1298 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 4: Thanks again for having me Joe. 1299 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. 1300 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, Patrick, and thank you again for listening to 1301 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 5: the Action Network podcast presented by bet MGM. Enjoy Monday 1302 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 5: Night Football. Keep an eye out for all of our 1303 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 5: NFL Week thirteen podcasts right here on the Action Network. 1304 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. 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