WEBVTT - 2021 NFC Championship with Cooper Kupp | 49ers vs. Rams 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.200 The internet likes to compare us. For some reason, those 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.600 guys were so similar. What do you think these reasons are? 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:07.720 I think I think it's a beard thing. It's a 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:09.600 beard it's a beard thing. Maybe our pigment. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.280 I never thought that once. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.800 On today's episode, we have the Triple crown winner, the 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:22.960 stud the Super Bowl champion, super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:28.760 talking twenty twenty one NFC championship between the San Francisco 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.440 forty nine ers and his Los Angeles Rams. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.800 It's a great win against the you know, a terrible 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.000 opponent that they've had our number for a few years, 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:38.720 and this is kind of the turning point of that. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.720 I remember looking up at the score and be like, gosh, 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.360 I'm so Glass, not twenty eighty three. I remember paying 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.000 Oh gosh, so Glass, not twenty to thirty. I want 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.720 to talk with somem What do you want to talk about? 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:53.479 The shirt that you're in? 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:54.319 What's this show? 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:54.440 Oh? 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:59.320 This shirt, this whole thing, Oh, this whole thing. Games 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:04.840 with Names a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:10.120 I'm Julian Edelman. There, Jack and Kyler and were on 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.360 the mission to find the greatest game of all time. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:21.160 On today's episode, we have Cooper Cup talking the monkey 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.640 off the back game. That's right, twenty twenty one NFC 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.080 Championship between the San Francisco forty nine ers and his 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:31.920 Los Angeles Rams. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.240 He's a Super Bowl MVP, Triple Crown winner, wide receiver. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.440 He doesn't need any credential. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:37.839 No peace. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:44.399 Numbers galore, numbers galore. There's barbecues galore that store, and 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.240 then there's Coop Cup with numbers galore, stat chet stuffer 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:49.880 and just a student of the game. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.120 He is, he really is. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.080 I mean, we get into we dive into that, We 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:58.160 dive into the San Francisco LA rivalry. We we dive, 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:05.160 we dive into However, one compares us, why is that? 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.440 I don't know, find out, find out. We'll find out. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.200 What do you what do you think? 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.640 I We'll find out. We'll find find out. We'll find out. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:18.000 And we also what it's like starting a coffee company entrepreneur, entrepreneur. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.320 This beans miss is an entrepreneur. Huh, he's a beansman. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.519 He knows those beans. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:24.440 Coffee dot co. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.880 And we got some content coming afterwards where I mean 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.040 he's got a particular way of making his coffee he's 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.080 a coffee connoisseur. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.000 We were, we were busy, Tom Brady, he's busy roasting 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:37.480 some Ethiopian beans. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:45.120 No, these were godmul Ands. And then the road to 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.200 his first Super Bowl where he bawled out and had 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.720 an MVP type game and you lost fifty thousand dollars 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:53.480 and I lost fifty thousand dollars. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.399 Light work, light work, light work. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.320 And then we'll wrap it up with hitting the old hotline. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.240 It'll be fun. Check it out. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:02.440 Let's go though. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:10.760 January thirtieth, twenty twenty two, SOFI Stadium, Inglewood, California. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.440 The Los Angeles Rams trailed the San Francisco winers seventeen 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.280 to seven heading into the fourth quarter, but. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.480 With a trip to the Super Bowl on the line, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:28.200 do Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup have another come back 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.240 in them? 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:35.280 This is the twenty twenty one NFC Championship Game. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.440 Welcome to Games with Names. Today we have a very 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.360 special guest. We have the Triple Crown winner the stud 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.840 the Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup in 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.440 studio in the nuthouse today. Welcome to the studio, Bro, 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:01.800 Thank you, thank you for sure, that's Jack that's and uh, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.160 why you picked this game, bubs. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.080 Yeah, I think this is a good one. This is 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:05.360 a good one. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.720 I know you've gone over some other games. You know 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.720 that year whitworth, that one's covered. I mean this is 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.960 a good one. It's a great win against uh, you know, 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.520 a terrible opponent that you know you just love to. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.600 You'll be able to pull one up. Oh, let's be fair, 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.320 they've they've had a number for a few years. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.080 And this is kind of the turning point of that. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.120 Yeah, I mean that was like that was you know, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.599 we won the one that was meaningful, the one that 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:31.240 we needed to win. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:32.640 We got it done. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.120 So so hard to beat a team three times in 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.279 one year, yeah, so hard. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:38.359 Have you done it before? 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.080 I think we did it a couple of times, But 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:42.800 then we also lost a couple of times where we 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.480 smoked the Jets twice and then we were fourteen and two, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.120 and then in the like we blew them out like 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.640 two weeks before, and then we'd go the first round 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.279 of the playoffs. They can't wait, game fucking Bart Scott 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.200 can't wait. They beat us in Foxborough. That shit sucks. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.760 Yeah, yeah, because that was sin we we had them 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.719 last Game of the Year that Yeah, and that was 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:07.160 we were playing for the division division title, end up 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.640 losing that game in overtime, but winning the division. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.039 How about weird like conflicted feelings. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.440 I hate that ship it is. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.839 It was whenever Like we've had a couple of those 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.000 where we were in Miami and we lose the game 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.039 and you're pissed off, but they they passed out the 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.400 hat scause else like. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.520 Throw the hat in your bag. Yeah, want to see 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.680 this thing right now. That's tough. It's a tough feeling. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.680 It's a great feeling to have, though, if you're in 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.120 that situation, coop, because a lot of people have never 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.640 been in that even situation like ever. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.680 No, yeah, I mean you got you appreciate that's just 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.840 in that moment you just went. You just played it 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.400 all on the line to go win a game. Yeah, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.520 especially a division opponent exactly. It's the worst overtime heading 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.359 into the playoffs. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:53.800 And you guys have had you guys had that thing 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.040 where like, hey, Kyle Shanahan owned us for a while. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.920 It's a whole McVeigh shanahan thing. I mean, I mean, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.719 so we talk about it nauseum. Yes, did I use 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.960 that word, right, that's really good. I'm working on the source. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.159 How's off season been going. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.159 It's been really good. Yeah, yeah, it was. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.520 It is probably my first off season having a full 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.560 having a full off season and being healthy out the 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.960 gate where I can go and just training how I 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:27.239 want to really since you know, the end of twenty 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.200 twenty going into twenty one was the last time I 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.240 had a full off season, and so having that's been 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.800 been great. Yeah yeah, I mean you just can't. You 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.479 can't put enough value on just that time and the 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.000 preparation it takes to get your body right to go 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.640 make this push. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.920 Well, people to put in context, what people don't realize 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.640 is when you're banged up in an off season, you're 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.919 not getting better. You're trying to get to where you 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:55.919 were at. And the league is so smart that you 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.359 have to reinvent yourself some my every off season because 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.920 there's film of how you've played the year before. So 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:06.000 it really takes a hamper in like your off season games. Yes, 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.160 when you're hurt, because you're trying to get this, you're 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.920 trying to get to zero, you know what I mean, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.560 you know you're not putting anything on top. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.920 So yeah, no, I've spent so I've spent the last 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.960 four years training with the same group at the same 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.400 trainer who actually this off season was hired by Atlanta. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.560 So thanks to Rahiem for taking my trainer who can 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.560 no longer program for me. He's playing the he's playing 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.440 level five oh one ball over there in Atlanta. Yeah, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.160 I mean draft analysts. I would say someone different, but 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.480 we can move past that. We were to talk about 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:34.040 that right now. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.520 But they took they took him over Bill, Yeah, they did. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:38.400 It's crazy. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.040 But what I was touching on was the off season again, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.600 off again, all these rabbit trails off season I've been 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.080 from with these gusts for four years. When you get 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.720 to the end of the season, you go back and 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.520 you like you hit your baseline that first week, right, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.920 and it's like you don't realize how much your body 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.880 breaks down the course of a season where that off 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.320 season you start so far are from where you went 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.000 into the season because there's just no way, like you 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.480 try to maintain things as you go. 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.560 Yeah, it's dang near impossible. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.240 You play those these long seasons and your body is 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.000 so broken down, there's so much just to build up, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.280 Like you said, just to get back to where you 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.000 were physically, and then all the armory you got put 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.080 on to prepare yourself, all the conditioning, the things you 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.320 got to do to put you know, create some change 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.160 in your body to be able to take the adaptation 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.080 from this offseason going into OTAs and say okay, now 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.280 we're we're gonna you know, grind through OTA's. Then you 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.760 get one month to basically gear up for training camp 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.880 in a seventeen game season, yeah, plus playoffs and so 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.040 it is a it's a big deal. But yeah, man, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.280 I feel I feel really good. That's awesome. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.480 Now, what are some of the point of emphasis you 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.559 have going in this offseason to your game? Now that 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.920 you're healthy, you can self scout, you could check out 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.560 what you need to work on. What's some of the 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.920 things that you are trying to get better at. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.440 Yeah, I mean I think I think the same mantra 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.199 into every every year. It's a bigger, faster, stronger. I 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.760 think the mobility side of things has been a huge piece, 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:04.000 just being like coming off of the ankle surgery a 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.160 couple of years ago. Things that come out of that, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.760 I mean, I think you get hurt, especially something as 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.400 low to the ground as an ankle. How it affects 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.199 things up the chain and you start compensating. And once 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.920 your body starts compensating, things start tightening, things start loosening. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.720 There's just a you know, you want to get your 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.720 body back into balance and moving the way it's supposed 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.839 to because like professional athletes, uh, we are professional at 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.079 compensating and working through injury. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.400 When you do that, your bodies that's. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.040 Not optimum, right, vulnerable exactly, And so pulling back and 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.920 finding what that optim is again, that's been the big focus, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.760 just in terms of how my body, how I want 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.440 my body to work. And then you know, in terms 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.080 of you know, skill wise, you're moving through into like 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.040 you know, the technical side of the game. There's so 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.160 much that you want to You watch film and think 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:51.920 every you look back and you're like, oh man, there's 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.600 just so much you can do better, so many things, 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.840 so many details that you can press yourself on and like, 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.559 you know what what kind of tools can add to 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.240 your tool out as counters to what worked, Like what worked? 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.760 How are people gonna stop it? How do I counter that? 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:07.920 Yeah, And you're in the point of your career where 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.360 you could watch film and you can go practice off 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.640 a specific look of how it may not have went 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.240 your way, and you could put that and play that 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.360 game in your mind, and you're probably at the point 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:20.880 where you're running routes. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.240 Oh yeah, yeah exactly. I mean you get better playing 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.600 football playing football. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:27.120 Yeah exactly. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.320 And I think there's there's a few different steps that 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.760 just like the visualization side of things, of where you're like, 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.040 you know, I'm I know, my wife knows, I'm laying 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.800 in bed, and suddenly I'll just be like wow, flinch out. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.600 I look like, hu, what were you doing there? What 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.400 was happening? Yeah, I got to take I was running 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.480 this round, the safety was driving down, you know, like 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.280 it's like it's real. It's like you get to this 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.439 point where you're visualizing things to the point where your 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.480 body is like reacting to it, and you're going they 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.640 take the next step, and now we're OK, we're running 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.200 routes on air, and we don't run routes on air 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.920 just to run routes on air, Like there's an intent 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.440 find what you're doing. You're you're seeing, Hey, this is 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.640 how this DB's playing us. Let's rest run this route. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.880 And I'm talking to Matthew, Hey is three carry it's 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.360 a tight carry out side, Like how we want to 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.880 run this route on this one? What angles are we 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.000 coming out at? So now you're running utes on there 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:13.920 and you're visualizing these things. So now when it does 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.160 come time that you're competing, you've seen that, you've seen it, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.600 you visualize that, you've felt all those steps that you're 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.800 gonna take. You've seen how he's gonna play and react 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.040 to each movie you're gonna do. At that point, once 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:25.760 you've played the game, it's like, man, I've taken this 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.440 rep over and over and over again. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.720 Although we used to call that DejaVu. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.440 You practice so much once you're doing the game, it's 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.439 like deja voo's. That's a great feeling too. It is, 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.000 you know what, People don't realize the amount of reps 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.400 you put into a play for it to work, because 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.520 there's like twenty different looks you can have, and when 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.120 you practice it and you rep it over over and 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:56.360 over with an intent, like Cooper said, and you use 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.400 those reps once you get to game day, it's in 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.320 your SubCom conscience. So once you can react faster and 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.920 you get to use your athleticism more, because once you 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.480 know what's coming, then that's when techniques and your superpowers 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:12.160 get to come out. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.720 Exactly when your when your mind's on, your body's off 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.000 all the time, right when you can get to the 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.920 point where your mind's seeing it so much that that's 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:26.000 now subconscious. Sean McVay calls it unconscious competence. When competent unconscious. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.240 I bet you he's got some sayings. What other sayns 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:28.959 does he have? He's got. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:31.640 All round up. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.760 You gotta let him come, natch. I can't just start 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.559 pulling him out of thing. Keep it in. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.920 We had this rep right here, Keep that in your 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.559 subconscious if something comes along. In this next part of 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.120 the interview, pop flag It, Flag It Cooper, did. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.840 You say that you like would wake up like dreaming 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:48.400 about reps? 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:49.760 Oh yeah, No. This isn't just about. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.920 This is like a full on like I'm awake, laying 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.880 in bed, and I'm just visual it's it's playing so 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.280 clearly in my head what's happening that my body is 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.840 reacting to what's happening in those moments, and it's it's 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.760 it's it's become it's honestly become a problem to the 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.360 point where it's like, gosh, if if we're like my 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.320 wife's like laying on me and I'm daydreamers like that, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.880 like she can get like like boom, I move actually 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.840 like her head's popping up off my shoulder. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:20.360 It's a it's a problem. 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.360 So we've had to we've had to figure out how 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.439 to like, you know, balance those things a little bit 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:25.400 so that. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:26.360 We're not hurting each other. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.040 Hand easy. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.400 I mean, that's pretty plugged iny. Have you ever been 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.800 that plugged in? You're dreaming about it, you're thinking about 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:38.640 it when you're lying down. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.160 Well, I never had a wife, so. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.880 I couldn't tell you that, but I mean you you 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.920 definitely when you're walking down the hallways you're working releases, 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.559 you know, you see one of your teammates in the hallway. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.720 You know, you're passing by a fucking guy. You're using 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.160 hands and it's always, I mean, you're on all day long. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.960 That's what people don't realize. You know, you don't become 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.560 the Triple Crown winner, a fucking Super Bowl MVP and 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:09.000 have the numbers that this guy had without doing ship 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.440 like that. That's like some Jerry Rice ship like on God, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:13.160 that's crazy. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.520 Who you're throwing with right now, you throwing anyone, matt Matthew, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.000 any any any Jimmy goo op, Yeah, you throw a 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.120 jity go Jimmy a little bit. How's Jimmy been doing. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:23.680 He's been good. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.520 Is that awkward now that he's with you guys. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:27.040 No, we don't. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.360 We don't touch on it too much, you know, we 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.760 just let him be, uh just kind of let it 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.520 be what it ismate. Yes, No, Yes, he's he's been 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.160 great and it's been really fun throwing with him. He's uh, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.119 you know, grabbing the offense. Like there's so much new terminology, 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.920 Like as close as Shanahan and McVeagh are with some 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.280 of the offenses the same ship, which is it's a 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.280 lot of the same stuff, but terminology is completely different. Yeah, 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.920 so the details all that stuff. He's just got a 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:51.960 lot going through his head right now. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:52.480 But he used to go. 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.200 He was out there, you know, running the offense the 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:55.920 other day and doing good. 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:56.920 Awesome. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.200 Now I swear was I we used to throw back 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.240 when you threw with golf, Yes, and we threw the 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.000 was I there the first day you were with Matthew. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.400 Or I wasn't there? No, when you were with Matthew. Yeah, 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:09.840 I wasn't there with you for that one. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:11.560 I could have sworn you were there. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.760 What was that like though, that whole situation when you 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.400 went like do you have any Matthew stories? 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.040 Any Matthew stories? 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:18.440 Yeah? 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.240 Yeah, when he came in, Like how was that? Because 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.960 when you when you you had a starting quarterback, you 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.720 go to the Super Bowl and then all of a 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.520 sudden it's gone. Yeah, you probably have relationships the National 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.120 Football League players and coaches leave every year, but it's 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.840 it's hard because it is hard. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.000 I think coming in that first so that first OTAs, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.600 coming off of going into the twenty twenty one season, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.440 OTA's got pushed back or come off COVID stuff. OK's. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.880 I don't think we show up until May. Matthew had 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.200 just come off thumb surgery, I believe when he had 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.520 gotten traded to US. So first week of OTA's we 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.040 show up. He's at this point only thrown like the 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:05.320 squishy nerfball, like a you know, tiny kids, squishy nerf 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.080 ball is like all he's done. And that first day 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.320 of OTAs, so I was like, all right, here we 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.400 got's like, let's get some routes. And I think it 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.520 was kind of everyone. I think it was kind of like, well, 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.960 he's not like technically he's not ready for that yet, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:21.400 like we're supposed to kind of we got wait. But 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.960 you know, Matthew was like competitive, competitive, new team coach 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.440 is saying he has to go throw routes. He's like, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.880 all right, let's go throw routes. And he can have thrown. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.720 I mean we go through a full session with everyone. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.040 You know, he throws whatever, seventy five balls and I 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:38.560 don't know if it's gonna one touch the ground, Like 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.000 it's just in you're just everything we just called. And 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.560 that's like when we when it started, and we just 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.120 call him long handoffs. Now when he gets when he 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.880 gets going, it's like, you know, you're throwing twenty five 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.360 yard deep outs to the field, and well that's just 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:52.800 a long. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.720 Handoff now, which people think, like, oh, pro quarterback, pro 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.960 receiver routes on air should always be one hundred percent. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.280 We've been over at that going west with some quarterbacks 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.000 where you're twenty eight for thirty seven, like what are 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.160 we doing, bubbs. But I remember I threw with Matthew 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.040 that day one of those days, and we we hadn't 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:15.520 even met each other. I think he just got off 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.280 the plane. I think we went like forty five or 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.720 forty five, and he could judge. He could judge you 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.080 in the air and because that's that's that's where you 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:23.200 can miss a guy. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.520 He's on a deep ball. Yep, he's just unbelieved. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.520 But this is the thing with him is I think 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.240 his like one of the best arm talents. I mean 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.159 there's just yeah, there's very few throw the ball. I 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:36.840 would dare say there's no one throws the ball the 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.280 way Matthew does. And I think what separates him obviously, 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.240 you know the arm angles and know all different stuff 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.520 and no looks being able to throw on any platform whatever. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:46.320 But he can. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.479 Truly, he's he's making his decision as the balls out 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.760 of his hand like he hasn't. He's making adjustments until 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.960 the balls over there like the ball like he's he's 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.240 dialed into it where he knows all that stuff right, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.520 all every point of his you know, throwing motion. That 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.840 balls he adjustments right till it think comes off his 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:08.520 point of fingers. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:09.720 So that's his superpower. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.440 I think that's just well, I mean he's got a lot, yeah, 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.399 a lot that he's got going for him obviously, like 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:19.600 the ability to process is phenomenal, and not just pre 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.160 snap process, but being able to post snap, know what's happening, move. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:23.800 Make throws. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.960 I think that's that is why he's able to do 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.280 what he's done, is because of his ability. He's not 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.160 an athlete, as much as he wants to tell you 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.439 that he was an athlete, He's not an athlete. But 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.040 he knows how to move in that pocket so well 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.240 and be able to buy, you know, a split second 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.280 of time here or there, and he's he sits in 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:44.960 there and will take a shot, but he's gonna get 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.159 that ball exactly where wants to go. 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.200 Yeah, he's tough. 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:48.960 He's tough. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.439 He's tough. You remember what we throw together? 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:52.000 Do? 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:52.679 Ye? 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:52.879 How? 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:54.280 What what year were you in there? 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:55.240 That was? 0:18:55.520 --> 0:19:01.199 I believe that was going into nineteen, maybe nineteen or twenty. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:07.280 I was old, Yeah, you're just really gotten into yoga. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:08.879 Well, I tell you about yoga. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.000 We talked a lot about yoga. You do yoga. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:14.200 I wouldn't say I do yoga. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.800 Now, Jesus didn't didn't touch the right spot. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.040 I guess old enough. 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.920 Well, no, yeah, what else are we talking about? 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:21.720 No? I'm telling you. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:23.600 We talked about yoga a lot, a lot. There's a 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.679 lot of yoga, but we did we did touch on 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:26.040 some stuff. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:26.199 You know. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:27.600 I think one of the things that we talked about 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.720 was and I there's there's a time for this. I 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.040 feel like it's more for like a certain converseiver that 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.080 can do it. But you do a lot of the 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.440 almost jump stop routes, right Like, we talked a lot 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.440 about how you get up to ten and you guys 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.880 would run stuffhere. You'd run the like basic ten yard 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:47.720 in or like the ten yard out, and then you 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.440 have the ten yard basic to the corner, right. And 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.479 you talked a lot about me like change your tempo 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:54.439 at the top of routes. We'll do that stuff. And 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:56.960 a lot of stuff you're doing with your feet square, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.960 which for me is a new thing where I get 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.280 to rocks. And I never wanted to be like my feet. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.679 I didn't want my feet on a surfboard, right like. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.680 I wanted to always be staggered in some capacity, and. 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.720 I was always different. I ran an orthodox that was 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.760 because of Wes West. You say that where you get 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.440 on their toes, you just and you you just explode 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.840 to whatever they don't do. So you're reacting. You know 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:23.160 what I mean by then, because reaction you create separation. Yeah, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.600 and really to me, so like I'll go a certain 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:26.160 body types. 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:26.680 You know what I mean? 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:27.280 Body type? 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.919 Yeah, exactly because it is because I think there's it 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.000 lends itself not that sense you're you're small in the 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.440 NFL or in the NFL, you're a smaller receiver, right, 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.280 So like that body like those guys that are you know, 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.639 your superparer was quicker. You're quicker than whoever's going to 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.919 be guarding you. Getting to the point where you can 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.000 have both feet in the ground and have power off 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.679 both feet. At the last scrimmage, I use to come 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.920 to balance at lease all the time, where I bring 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.240 both feet booms immediately right to come to balance. So 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.760 now it's just like playing basketball, right, and I can 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.719 go either way. I want to react off of as 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.160 soon as I saw make that son of like bank 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.400 both your together. Deb's gonna react and now I got 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.480 both feet to be go go two way go. You're 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.040 doing the same thing, except you're doing it at the 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.200 top of the route, right, But there's an emphasis now 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.640 on the fact that you are now in the sequence 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.400 of the route. Your your quarterback is now hitched, and 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.200 you've got to make that decision now and go because 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:24.600 that next hitch the balls out, you know. So there's 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.240 like what happens early, I can now adjust through my route, 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.400 Like okay, I took too much time with the last scrimmage. 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:32.800 You got to speed up here. You're making that decision 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:33.600 at the top of the route. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.679 There's that you've got to be right and get You 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.720 and Wes obviously we're the best at doing that. 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:38.679 Made a living on it. 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:39.320 You don't. 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.560 But it also it would change that'd only be a 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:42.320 man covered drove. 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:42.840 Yeah. 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:46.760 So Tom was always good at reading us and the 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:50.159 countless steps or reps that we had an off season. 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.040 He knew which way we were going to go, you 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.240 know what I mean, just through the technique of what 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.760 the guy's given me. So like that's that's that chemistry 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.800 that I'm sure you have to have you and Matthew 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.840 wrong where you guys are finishing each other's sentences. 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:05.120 And it takes time. 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:06.120 It takes time. 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.000 When you guys would do routes on air, right, how 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.600 would you what would the routes on air session look 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.240 like for you guys? Would you guys just do the 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.240 route tree or was it more in takeause I know, 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.440 like you know, No, Peyton was more like we're doing 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:20.320 three routes today. 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:20.720 No. 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.560 Tom was a two minute drill you could go when 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.879 I was when I'd come out here to LA, he 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.159 would work me to death, right and he would be like, 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.359 all right, sub personnel, you're that so sub personnel zer 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.399 out feeing ride one thirty four fo ice, I had 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:40.200 a twenty hour bow all right, you're the zeneo would rangers, Rangers, 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.159 Rangers two flood slot. You know, we go all the 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:45.840 way down the field and we would be in the 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.280 red area and we'd do red area stuff and then 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.399 I'd score and I'd be dying because it'd be like 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:52.480 eight straight routes. 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.359 He wanted, he wanted to work. He wanted to see you. 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.120 I was tired, and he wanted to see me think 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.480 when I was tired, and so then i'd be I'd 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.440 be dying and I'd be like all right, off sides, 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.240 off side. He made me come back and do more 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.040 shit like he was like a full coach out there. 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:08.119 But it made you think while you were tired and 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.399 you were processing, and then sometimes you know if I 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.080 was in the slot, he'd be like, well, we safety 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:13.400 in his middle of his drop. You wanted to see 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:17.560 if I break. Like he was constantly making cques and 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:21.760 doing a dynamic session. So that's I love that. 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.479 I've never done one like that before outside of like, uh, 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.560 we've done that before for strictly conditioning. Okay, we're gonna 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.480 go eight play drive here as fast as we can, right, 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:35.359 And usually that's just like, hey, Matthew, we're gonna I 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.080 missed my conditioning today. We're gonna do it like at 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:39.920 the end of the routes, let's get like some quick 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.800 ones as fast as we can. Matthew's more of a 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.320 route for you guy, like he wants to get all 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:46.840 of his throws in. Every once in a while he 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.320 lets me choose some of the stuff and be like, hey, 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.800 I want because I really like going like, hey, we're 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:56.119 gonna run We're gonna run a corner route today, but 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.040 I wanted against every look, we're gonna get right under 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.040 cutting over the top, Yeah, ended exactly. I want cover four, 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.200 cover three, cover two, man one, help lurk. I want 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.640 to know you know, hey, he's playing like, yeah, it's man. 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:09.600 You didn't win at the top, he's squeezing you. It's 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.119 gonna come flat, like all those things. So now then 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.240 where it's like we can dial in every look that 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:18.480 we want and know for this route is not it 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.720 can look so many different ways, and we've talked through 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:22.560 all those things. So that that was how I really 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.520 liked doing routes because there's some tip behind it. 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:26.760 We would do those. 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.399 So that was more of like in the off season 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:30.960 where he was trying to get throws and he was 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.159 conditioning his arm and he was trying to run me 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.080 and I was young, you know what I mean. We 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.720 would go post practice and do a lot of that stuff. 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.920 So like we'd work safe routes, you know, back shoulder 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.360 throws because you know he back shoulder throws take such 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.439 a trust throw, but you still need to be zipping 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:52.359 at ten yards and you can't like you can't dictate it, 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.040 you can't show it, you know, And so we'd work 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.200 those a lot. And then we'd also work the flag routes, 0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.960 bow routes where you want to lean on the guy 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:04.560 he's undercutting, throw you up field. Like that's we did 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.120 a lot of that specialized stuff too. Everything was with Tom, 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.800 That's that was what the greats do. You guys are 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.560 clearly on a great path, you know what I mean. 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.680 That's why you guys are great is because you guys 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.280 practice with a purpose. It's not just going after to 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.760 work hard. No, you can't. You can't prove just going 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.960 out and working hard and just you know what I mean. Yes, 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.120 you got to find out what you need to work 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.520 and work hard at that and that's how you improved. 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:28.640 Yes, exactly. 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.240 So we designed, we made the show for this type 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:37.280 of conversation. So just keep having it. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.800 I want to talk with someone. What do you want 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:40.280 to talk about? 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:40.960 The shirt that you're in? 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:42.480 What's this sho oh this shirt? 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:46.920 This whole thing? Oh, this whole thing? What is this thing? 0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.560 That's an old one, it's very old. 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.080 Greatest show on turf here that. 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:56.680 We're listening to it is it's a super Bowl thirty 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.080 six shirt Patriots. 0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:00.719 It just felt like a little bit of a like 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:02.440 you didn't want to go all the way and we're 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.479 the one that I know you wanted to wear, but 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.040 the producers were like, hey, I don't know if you 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:06.800 should wear that one. 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.200 No, you want to know it was the only shirt 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.160 I had to have. Patriots and Rams so forty seven brand. 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:17.359 They've been sending us stuff and shout out and they 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.320 sent this one over and I was like, what am ina. 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:19.680 Wear for Coop? 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.320 You know, he's probably gonna be a little swag dad. 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.119 He's gonna have some sweet sweet kicks on, some like 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.800 little surfer hoodie thing going with this beard all time. 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.040 How do I how do I make it like kosher 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:30.880 between us? 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:31.320 Yeah? 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:31.680 You know? 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.080 And so I picked this out nice? 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:34.600 You know what. 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.119 I know you've got another shirt? 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.200 Well, I have the super Bowl victory shirt. 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:41.680 Yeah, I have that one. Will you think of you 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.439 after the game? But I don't have like that's the 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:48.240 one somewhere here. Oh yeah, okay, it's just it's very deep. 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:49.760 That's good. 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.000 Well, I mean I think it's other by other two. 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:56.280 Yeah, got them. That's good. 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:57.439 Now. 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.240 The Internet likes to compare us for reason those guys 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.480 were so similar. Why are we still similar even though 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.840 you're six one, six, two, five ten? What do you 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:07.760 think these reasons are? 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:09.359 Couldn't for the life of. 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.600 A little deep dive of how our round and completely. 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.000 I think I think it's a beard thing. It's beard 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.880 it's a beard thing. Maybe our pigment. I never thought 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.240 that once our pigment. Every white guy is the same 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:22.959 fucking receiver. 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:24.320 You know what. 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.800 You know what it is though, So yeah, no, that 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:29.159 is what it is. That's what it is. 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.040 He's got longs but I never had the long speed 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.480 like that. I don't have the I don't have. 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:36.560 No. 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.679 Yeah, so I was compared, So who are you compared 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.040 to coming into the league, this guy, Wes Welker. Yeah, 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.439 so I was Jordy Nelson? 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.160 You were? You were? 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:46.120 I played against JORDI. 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.960 Yeah, you're You're better in the slot though, I'm about 0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.920 he was. We couldn't be more different, Yeah he was. 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:58.040 Jeordie's game was outside vertical. Yeah that's not my game. No, 0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:59.639 but you can still run vertical routes. 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.200 Yeah, but that wasn't like, that's not how I've made 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:06.720 my That's not what's made my game. But now I've 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.560 seen a full circle now because guess who any receiver is, 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.240 Like any white receiver becomes compared to me. It's kind 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:20.080 of like a full circle thing now of like there's 0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.480 there's the exactly this is It's okay. At some point, 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.000 at some point, all the draft people will get they'll 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.600 get some creativity and it'll actually start like seeing the 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.080 game and it'll be like. 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:33.960 I gotta watch the game with you. 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.240 I mean, coach coach coop, coach Coop got the you 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.160 got the analyst, bro or well yeah, if that that's 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.240 the word analysts, it is analysis analysis. 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:43.760 There we go. 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.400 What's what's up with this? How is Pooka is? He's 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:49.240 been a cool addition? 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.520 He has been. He has been pretty sweet, pretty cool. 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:58.360 Obviously great story coming from a fifth throne pick doing 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:03.760 what he did. I don't know how people didn't see whatever, like, yeah, 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.040 you see someone play ball and you just kind of 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:11.360 know someone can play ball. Kyudo stuffs though for forgetting him. Yeah, 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:12.560 but he's been he's been awesome. 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:13.040 Yeah. 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.680 I mean, he's a sponge. He wants to know, he 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.040 wants to talk football, he wants to know the game. 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.360 He's got really pretty good IQ. Like we came from 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.400 the kind of the same coaching tree where his his 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.400 coach at U dub when he was there was my 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.840 receiver coach at Eastern Washington. Oh yeah, so we kind 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.800 of had the same thing. I've actually been in the 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.840 same coaching tree since high school. So my my high 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:41.240 school receiver coach was really best friends with my college 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:49.000 receiver coach who coached my next receiver coach and coach 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:53.680 Yarbs going with now coach Junior Adams, who was my 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.600 coach in college. Geez, So I've been doing the same 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.760 I've been. I've had the same tree for for well 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.600 since two thousand and eight. 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.600 Did that Can that consistency help your game? 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:08.080 I think there I think it did. 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.760 But it also it did help me because there's that 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.160 there's a lot of similar thinking. But then the other 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.600 side is I'm like, I have to go find something new, 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.040 Like it forced me to go out and find tools 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.080 and talk to people and find other drills, find other 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.080 stuff that I want to incorporated my game because I'm like, 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.280 I know, I'm getting the same stuff from Yards that 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.160 I got from coach Adams, that I got from coach Edwards. 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.160 I've gotten from coach. 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.160 To another perspective exactly. 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.880 I wanted to have another projectives, receivers and art form. 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.200 No one doesn't you do it different than it goes 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.719 back to the same conversation. It's like, you know, there's 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:55.280 there's Picasso and other artistise mil don Tello Raphael there 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.880 is so like, uh, there's all these different ways to 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.520 do it. Yeah, right, And so I I don't want 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.720 to get stuck just knowing one way. I want to 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.360 have some other stuff I can do and force me 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.720 to kind of go and learn from people. I remember 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.000 before the twenty my second year, before the twenty eighteen season, 0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:15.280 It's it's Friday before we report on Tuesday for training camp, 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:16.720 and I'm with Curse Conway. 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:23.920 Yeah, who's that the receiver? Yeah, from with Team Bears 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.560 s Bears. So I I want what year? 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.520 Yeah, I think at the point I'm with Conway and 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.680 where we show up on I show up on Friday, 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.360 Like we're easy to take me through some girls I 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.040 asks want to get, you know, perspective. I want to 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.120 see someone else take me to through stuff. A lot 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.280 of times I go with someone and I might spend 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.000 a few days working out with someone and be like 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:44.960 I grabbed one thing that I want to like take 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:45.240 with me. 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:46.720 Right. Sometimes there's nothing. 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.640 Sometimes like man, there's just a treasure trove of stuff 0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.680 that I want to use here. Yeah, there with Curse 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.960 Conway and we ran a curl route for an hour straight, 0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.480 an hour shift a curl route. Three days before camp. 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:04.640 My toes were black. I pulled my cleats off, toes bloodied. 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:09.280 Gone every year yeah gone, you know, so you go. Yeah, 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.440 but I want to go here for someone. I want 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:12.600 to hear some something different. 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:13.920 And what was his technique? 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.800 How was it different because he attacked the leverage guy 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.360 or was he just goes straight up in the back? 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.880 We did attack, We did more attack the leverage stuff 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:22.920 in ters, like the stems and things like that. But 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.520 I don't even remember if it was from him that 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.680 I like pull this, but it was kind of the 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.880 beginning of this idea of like, as a receiver, I 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.960 never want to think of myself as as slowing down. 0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:37.640 I want to decelerate right. 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.000 I want to always be thinking I'm accelerating, So even 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.840 when I get to the top of a route, I 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.680 want to accelerate down into the ground right, Like what's 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.440 the what one of the best stoppers in the world 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:53.840 javelin right? Javelin comes down stops right. So I want 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.200 to be like a javel where I'm running and I 0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.120 want that angle. I want to accelerate down at forty 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.920 five and when I'm accelerat eating point foot down. 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.360 You know what Newton says energy potential. 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:05.120 Yes. 0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.320 He also says every force is an equal opposite reaction. Right, 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.440 So if I accelerate down into the ground, right, the 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.720 ground is gonna stop me, push back against me. 0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:14.680 Stop somewhere. 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.840 And now, as a dB, you see me accelerating from 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.640 accelerating down towards the ground, and you're backing up, right, 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:22.400 but I'm stopping. 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.160 Yeah, but you have to have your technique and right, 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:26.720 and you're not all that stuff. 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.560 Oh there's so much I was saying, like they're running 0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:33.360 curls for an hour, get my feet bloodied. It's like, yeah, 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.000 I probably didn't grab a whole lot of stuff from it, 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.880 but it was like the beginning of this thought, like, man, 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.800 how do I want to stop? How do I want 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.920 to learn how to like cue myself to how we're 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.960 run routes to the top. And it's developed and grown 0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:46.720 into this place where now I've got like these cues 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.800 of how I want that stuff to look. 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:50.800 And you know, it's a. 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.200 One hour session five years ago that's developed into kind 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.560 of a basis of how I do my stuff. 0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.640 Now, you got to give a little shine of Curtis 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.960 Conway here first, uh seventh overall pick him in ninety 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:04.400 three draft. 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.720 Jesus out a USC. Yeah us So the Bears played. 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.360 From ninety three to four. Finished his career with the Niners. 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.279 El Camino junior college. 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.800 Guy before USC, Oh Camino. Where's that Torrents? Oh, Torrents 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.360 right out the road? Shout out to coach Curtis Conway. 0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.400 What other guys you look up to when you were younger? 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:23.440 Running routes? 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.319 When I was younger, so I played running back. 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.640 Yeah, so you were looking at running back. 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:33.160 I was running backs. So backs, Reggie, Reggie Bush. We 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:34.279 had him, We had him on here. 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.319 We talked about the five oh five game stayed in 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:38.960 five yards against fres State. 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.600 Remember that where he cut back against the whole team, 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.720 We pulled the ball back. Yeah. Yeah, he's a monster. Yeah. 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.600 What other receivers in the league right now? 0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:47.239 You are? You? 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.960 Do you study any of the guys because I used 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.200 to study guys all the time. 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:51.680 Yeah. 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.560 So I used to be like, why the fun is 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.759 he catching one hundred and twenty balls? I'd look at 0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.439 everything every catch he had, I said, what is he doing? 0:34:59.239 --> 0:34:59.359 So? 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.640 I loved watching keenan Allen release game. 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:08.279 Hean Allen like the last few years, especially because he 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.200 has some injury stuff come up. Right, isn't like he's 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.319 never been a burner a burner. 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.160 Right, he's later in like later in. 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.920 His career, but you down still playing at a very 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.480 high level. And I want to know, like, how is 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.160 he creating separation? And I watched our watching the tape 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.600 and guess what they never tell Keenan Allen to run. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.879 It's a go route. So now you're not moving great. 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.799 You weren't a burner in the first place, and your 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.439 team doesn't let you run vertical? How are you gonna 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.800 get open? And his ability to snap down to like 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.640 get close, to get open is unbelieva. He would run, 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.560 he'd run hitch routes against press and you get open 0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.840 even though they never threw a go ball. Right, Like 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.879 as a dB, if you study tape and you never 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.360 see your guy go vertical, you're just gonna sit on 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.239 every route. And he over and over again is able 0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.720 to get open. You know, make a ton of catches. 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.680 He's billy in and out of breaks. Like how quick 0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:05.000 he is. He runs that little Colorado route which I 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.040 think they let him run on an option when it 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.919 was rather easy to run in the shallow if he's 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.520 got it or he's you know, bursting back out. Yeah, 0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:14.640 he's made a killing on that. But you guys don't 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.839 have any of those two way goes to read it routes. 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:18.360 You see ours. We still to read it, but we 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.439 don't do it like that. We don't do it off 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:21.400 of like the shallow. 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:22.279 We don't do it. 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:26.520 We do it off cross routes. Yeah, so six fifteen 0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.120 and you're you're the cross. Are either going across the 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.040 twenty four or you bring it out to the bow, 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:32.640 read it out. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.240 What do you have on the backside? 0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:36.440 Go go, It's just for you to get open and 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.000 fucking win. Third, you know, if you knew you were 0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.359 getting man coverage, you can get it protected. You knew 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.960 you if they weren't thief in or money or rob 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.840 robbing you, that's where you go. Or you put a 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:51.439 deep stopper on one side that converts so if they 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.960 robber it, you can hit that stopper because you know 0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.600 you got It's it's true, one true, one man shows, 0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.279 one man show, fifty three yards to get open, just 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:00.600 throwing me the coach. 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.680 You gotta get in there. 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.280 Come on, That's just not how we operate. 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.160 Really, we don't do the We don't do that. 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.080 What it's got to fit the system. 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.360 Yeah, but if you a man, if you have a 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.120 and you guys don't play man teams though, no, we played. 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.040 We played man teams. 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:17.920 What man team do you played? Right now? Who's the 0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:18.319 man team? 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.520 Are you just saying that because you came from the Patriots, 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.640 who play you know, just lay a ton of man man. 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.560 We didn't play man against you guys in the Super Bowl. 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:27.160 I'm third down, you did well. 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.960 Third down is always man coverage. Not always, but yeah, 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.640 most of the time is always man. It comes down 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:33.320 to man coverage. 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.360 We all know you did in the Super Bowl. We 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:36.680 changed it up your six to one. 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:38.319 You weren't there. 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:39.920 I was there. I was there. 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.279 I was watching the whole thing. Third down double Robert 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:46.359 Woods gil Moore on BC. You want to know it's 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.120 a sweet play from that. I don't know if you guys, 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:49.600 when you guys produce this, if you can put it 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:53.480 in there. But Robert Woods ran a sale route on 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:57.000 third down on our sideline, going from our sideline looking 0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.920 right to left against the double team, and that was unbelievable, 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:02.080 unbelievable catch on the. 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:03.600 Sideline, but he sold it in. 0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.759 He sold it in, sold any kind of stuck it, 0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.520 flattened it out, and he had the outside leverage guy 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.160 and just shaved undernath the outside leverage guy. 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:11.000 Throw to the sideline. 0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.839 I bet you that dB got murdered in on the 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:14.959 sideline by Bill. 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.200 Don't lose your leverage. 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:23.680 Just keep your leverage. We're yeah, I'm sure he did. 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.680 But it was a freaking a sweet route. 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.400 Did did be Cooks give you guys any info. 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:29.399 Go into that game? 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.360 Uh? Non't remember, I'm doing a ton, But this is 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.120 a tough it's a tough thing. We got teams, like 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.640 everyone thinks, like with all the players, it's it's too hard. 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.359 It's too much stuff, putting on a defense and offense. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.719 A I always thinking about so much stuff. And then 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.680 you guys came out anyways and did something you've never 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:50.160 done any anyways. So it's like the worst thing about 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.440 the Super Bowl is you get two weeks don overthink. 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.840 Everything, overthink everything, and over prepare for anything. 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.600 So you prepare based on the film, because why would 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.000 you prepare for something you haven't seen it? War prepare 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:02.600 for the film for two weeks. 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.279 Do what they do team guys. 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.840 And then they show up and you guys did uh 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.520 you guys did the Uh Chicago? 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.120 What the defense you guys ran? It was? 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:20.120 It was it was it was it was blue zero. 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:16.319 It. 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.560 Was Fangio had done it earlier that year with Chicago. 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.919 I wasn't in on the defensive meetings. You guys gotta 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:25.200 watch that. 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:26.960 I don't pay attention to you, but you guys are 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:28.440 doing on I. 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.839 Just saw there was interceptions by Gilmore when third down 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:33.800 and it was needed. Us sitting there on the sideline, 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.560 like that's for the coach. 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:36.000 Let's go. 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.279 When mccordy ran out there and knocked it. 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.000 Oh my goodness. So that play wasn't even in. That 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.040 play was not You. 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.360 Guys talked about it on the sideline. 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.239 Yeah, that was a That was a play that we 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.560 drew up on the sideline that we had run before, 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.360 but it was not part of the game plan, like 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:54.319 we got to get this thing in there, and it's tough. 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.759 It seemed like coach was a little starstruck, though with 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.760 with Belichick for stars. 0:39:59.080 --> 0:39:59.760 I love coach. 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.040 We played against each other in colleague, Like, I love 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:02.800 coach mcvagh. 0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:03.319 That's my dog. 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.480 So we've gone and got hammered together and stuff. 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.439 But you know, he wasn't a star. 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:13.640 He wasn't starstruck. Little No, I don't think that's what 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.160 it was. He saw Darth Vader for the first time. 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:20.280 He's like, oh my, you watched any of these young guys. 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.560 You watching any of these young guys coming out, Harrison 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.960 or coming out? Yeah, you watch young guys. I watched 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.759 just as much as you watched like college football. I'm 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.279 not I'm not like pulling up guys film and like 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:35.439 scouting them. 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.120 I watched highlights. That's not what you don't really get 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:39.000 into out of the highlights. 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.160 Yeah, because you see the catch at the end yards well, 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:42.800 you think you can see what his best is and 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.879 then you can assume what. But you get to see 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.880 the whole route all the time. That's the thing that 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.680 kills me is all the time. It's like, okay, I 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.840 saw you get off the line and then you disappeared 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:51.680 and you caught it. 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:52.280 Yeah. 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.640 Usually they just go routes in college for verticals. 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:56.799 Yeah, I'm excited to see it, though. 0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.160 I've heard there's some really good like some good guys 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:00.520 coming out. 0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.120 So I just got to ask one thing, what's up 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.040 with this red turf at Easter in Washington. 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:07.960 What's up with that? 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:08.319 Dude? 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.000 The inferno just on fire. It's literally on fire. 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.240 Does it get hot? 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.920 It gets pretty hot, it does. And then how is 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:18.719 it just a mess with your eyes? No, Honestly, when 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.000 you're when you're playing on it all the time, it's not. 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.640 So it's homefield advantage for real. It's one hundred percent 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:24.880 homefield advantage. 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.480 Because guys are tripping when they go on there. Yeah, 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.520 it's for sure an adjustment period, get used to it. 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.680 But like as I go back and watch, if I 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.160 see a highlight or whatever of the red turf, now 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:35.080 it's like. 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.840 Whoa, it's like blinding mind eyes. 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.560 But the but when you're on it all we practice 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.239 on it every day, it was just that was home. 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:53.200 Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. We 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.440 got a segment. Let's go back to January thirtieth, twenty 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:58.840 twenty two. We go over pop culture. 0:41:58.880 --> 0:41:59.560 What was going on? 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:02.120 It was that long ago, But the number one movie 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.759 was Spider Man No Way Home. 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:05.520 Just watching my daughter, she loves it. 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.279 Every time we do this, always always a Spider Man. 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.920 I feel Spider Spider Man has been on somebody's done 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.360 fifty of these shows, now fifty Everyone from Terry Bradshaw 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:18.640 in the seventies to New Guys and Spider Man has 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:19.279 been on like seven. 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.240 Just keep going, you all the way back to what 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.080 was the og? You guys consider the og that Toby maguire, 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:29.080 I like you. That's that's so from then on. How 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:30.920 many Spider Man movies have there been? 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:33.480 Number two was a lot. 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.839 I think it's like it's like seven or eight. There's 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.839 no weird licensing thing. I won't bore you with. That's 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.400 Sony has I know Sony has it. 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:41.160 They have to do it. 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.160 Then we count animated, We count animated? Right, Yeah? 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:44.440 All the. 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.120 New ones are good. You like Spider Man? 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:48.520 Yeah? 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:49.960 You action for your guy? 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.640 You like no, But my boys are really big into superheroes. Yeah, 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:58.200 so that's their favorite. Batman is probably the favorite Batman 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.520 is that is real? Yeah? 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.520 Real? These are real tools he's using. 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.480 Jules always tells us how he's more of a Robin 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.160 Man than a Batman Man. 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:14.040 Uh Dan, just as Robbie Robin. 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.040 The number one song was Easy on Me by Adele. 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:20.279 We like it. 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.560 I like adel Do you see that sphere? You see 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.280 her at the sphere. You see, you've been in Vegas 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.480 the sphere I was. I saw the sphere being built. 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:28.799 I've been in Vegas one time. 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:30.319 Yeah, I miss so much. 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.480 Dan Campbell finishes his first season as head coach of 0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:39.640 the Detroit Lions with a three and thirteen and one record. 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.120 I liked him at the beginning. It was you don't 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.719 like anymore. I like him. 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.520 I like Dan Campbell, but he there's a fine line 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:53.320 between reckless and aggressive, and he's tinkering on that reckless 0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:54.480 side way too much. 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:59.480 Steering on what you perceive. No, it was like, no, 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.400 I've done what he's trying to do. He needs to 0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.279 coach the Detroit No, I've been part championship teams. You 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.440 have to your team never went for it on like 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.160 fourth and thirty. 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:13.239 Yeah, those ones. 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.000 What are we doing? Bros By kneecaps man, we. 0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:18.960 Gotta like them, but death I go to bat from 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.440 all the time, But we gotta know. 0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:22.480 I really like what he's got going on there. Players 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.600 are super bought into their stuff. It's it sounds like 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.520 a great place, a really fun place to play. 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.400 I bet there's a lot of They got a lot 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.680 of juice right now. They got a lot of NFL 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:33.520 coaches with that. 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.840 That's a cool that'd be a cool place to uh 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.600 to win in Detroit. 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.440 Yeah, they love their fans. 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:44.040 Scream, liquorice Pizza, and the Matrix Resurrections were all popping 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.480 off in the box office. I didn't like the Matrix 0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:47.879 that much. 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.919 You like it? No? I mean Matrix one was didn't 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:51.920 do everything? 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:53.560 Can't you Maketux like Matrix? 0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:58.640 I've seen the Ogs. Yeah, Resurrections, Scream was this a 0:44:58.640 --> 0:44:59.160 new Scream? 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.680 Yeah, there's a new one again. Didn't really cross my 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:03.399 desk very hard. 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:04.560 Which liquor Spizza? 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:09.239 That's like an indie movie with Thomas Anderson, A big fan, 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:09.680 big fan. 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:10.360 Who's in that? 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:10.840 Uh? 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:12.080 Tyler doesn't seem. 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.480 He doesn't like late era PTA, which I like, like 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.080 most things. 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:18.840 Pretty miserable. 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.759 I've been working with him for going through life, just 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.520 pretty much not liking anything nothing. 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:31.719 Bob saggett r I p alright. He loved him on 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.000 Full House. That's how old I am. 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.000 Raised me bro I was raised on the reruns, but 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:41.640 still TBS. After school was going on in the sports world. Wait, 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.440 can we gotta give some shining to Kevin James bro. 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.760 This is when Home Team dropped. He was playing Sean 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:47.640 Payton man. 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:48.879 Sean Payton who? 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.600 All right, we asked the question who would play Sean 0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:52.440 mcvaannon movie? 0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:53.439 Who plays Sean McVay? 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.200 Who would who would if Kevin James plays Sean Payton 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:57.320 in this movie? 0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.080 So you're saying the standards really low. 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.879 Yeah, I like Kevin James. 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.600 I like Kevin James, but that is funny. 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.319 In terms of how I liked. They need to look. 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.000 I'm not saying that I don't like Kevin James, was 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.480 saying the standard. It was not like his acting. It 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:15.160 was a bad movie, wasn't it. 0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:20.160 Haven't seen it? Who's playing Sean McVay. I'm struggling there. 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.879 There's I know, I know, I know he's gonna want 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.200 me to say someone that he has a ton of 0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.920 respect for, and like, I think he's actually referenced someone. 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.280 I think the rams actually referenced someone playing Sean who. 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:35.000 I can't remember who it was. 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:35.200 It was. 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.520 It was in the draft house, one of the draft houses. 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:42.160 They had him there. I don't know, I can't remember. 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.720 Huh, Glenn Powell, Glenn Powell. 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.960 That'd be pretty good. Yeah, right, made that good look good. 0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.279 I just want him on the show. You just want 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.560 him on the show. Jules who played Bill, who played Bill? 0:46:55.120 --> 0:47:01.280 Danny DeVito be a fun Bill. 0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.200 That'd be good. It'd be a fun Bill. 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.160 You could do something fun with that. Danny de Vito 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.840 is Bill Belichick. You can do some you can do 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.719 some good stuff for that the trailer. Now, let's go 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:16.520 back into Sports World. Super Bowl champions La Rams. 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:18.560 You guys won it. Hats off. 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:22.719 That was pretty cool to watch Stafford come over Day one, 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:27.279 win the Super Bowl and the fl m VP Aaron Rodgers. 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:27.920 His corduroy suit. 0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.520 I remember anti wide receiver bias. 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:31.960 Yeah, you should have been an i VP. 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:36.799 Bro Receivers got to stick together on this thing. 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:39.359 You had an insane year. 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.160 Didn't you break like six records? 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.520 I don't know, we were we were close. We were 0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:45.880 close to three. I think we were actually we were 0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.200 actually you know, we were eighteen yards off of Calvin's 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.279 but it was but I mean it was the extra game. 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.520 We did have the extra game that year still and 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.239 actually know we had we had that the last drive 0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.120 of that game. That's the last game of the of 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:03.120 the season, right, the last rid of the season, second 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:06.160 to last We had a fly sweep that went for 0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:07.520 eighteen yards, but. 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.360 We handed it, gave it a little pick. You imagine 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:11.640 if it was just it. 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.839 Was just matth You come on, would they have gave 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:15.200 it to him? 0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:16.200 If he would have beat the record? 0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:16.839 Will give? 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.480 I think I think you have to have it as Yeah, 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.960 Aaron Rodgers numbers, it looks like going forward from now 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.520 though it ask to be asterisk as like a seventeen game, 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:26.520 like from seventeen game thing going forward? 0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.120 I mean, was Aaron Rodgers numbers that great? 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.439 For four hundred and fifteen yards, thirty seven tds, only 0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:34.360 four picks? 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.879 Yeah, good hundred, one hundred, eleven point nine passer rating. 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.000 But he's got he's got those laying around his house. 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.960 Lame, that's nothing compared to one hundred and forty five 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:47.400 catches and almost two thousand yards sixteen receiving touchdowns. It 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:48.120 was a pretty good season. 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.400 By that was a fucking monster season. Pretty good season. 0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.839 National champions or was Georgia this old Georgia thing they 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.280 go back to back this year, they go back to back. 0:48:58.080 --> 0:48:59.480 To the first of the two. 0:48:59.520 --> 0:48:59.879 Let me double. 0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.439 I think Bryce Young was the Heisman Trophy winner. Man, 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:08.000 he's been in a bad situation. Yeah, I feel bad 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:08.399 for him. 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:09.080 It was it was. 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.080 It was tough, that whole thing. It's tough. 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:16.720 Winter Olympics kickoff in China, which was god awful I heard. 0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.120 I mean people were dying of I think breathing problems 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:24.160 with the pollution, right, and then I think didn't didn't 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:28.200 they not have enough snow? I remember they had snow. 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:29.799 It was it was a mess. 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:36.840 First NFL season to consist with seventeen regular season games. 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.600 What were your thoughts on that. That's hard, It's hard. 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:41.040 It is hard. 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.840 You know what it's the hardest is when you finish 0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:47.080 your sixteenth game. Yeah, like we should really in the 0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.680 playoffs right now, we got another we gotta go to 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:50.239 another game. 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:51.960 Young, we don't even have that feeling. 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:53.239 That's the thing. 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.440 It's the you know, if you're ignorant to the fact 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.320 of like the fact that it used to be sixteen, 0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:01.120 or that it used to be fourteen and that's going 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:01.880 to be eighteen. 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:04.080 We want the we want the health and safety of 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:05.239 the players to be in our mind. 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:06.920 We're making about the health and safety of the players. 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:08.520 It really, it really is the. 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.120 Safety of the players. That's why we're gonna add one 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.120 more violent car crash to their life. Yes, one more, 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.600 one more, one more game of. 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.880 Violent car crashes, car crashes. 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:22.280 So I've heard people, I'm not going to name names, 0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:25.480 people have thrown out the idea of what if you 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.640 did took out O t AS. 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:30.839 I haven't started. 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.280 Sloppy football right now exactly. 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:35.799 So that's that. 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.560 That's that is the fear right and innovation. You lose 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.280 innovation if you have ots, you take out ot as, 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.560 maybe you split part of OTAs, put it to training camp. 0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:45.920 Be you cut training camps. 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.560 You end up with like a similar ish time where 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.200 there's a build up of O t A s into 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.400 training camp. Right, So like Oka's how OTA starts, you know, 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:56.320 just workouts and meetings, then just routes on air and 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:58.520 meetings and lifting and. 0:50:58.480 --> 0:50:59.759 Then eventually training camp. 0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:02.560 Right, if you were to do it like that, but 0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:05.720 you were to say you were gonna go like twenty 0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:11.120 one games, so you add games, shortened the overall season 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:16.319 of work for a for players. I'm not saying I'm 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:19.319 advocating for twenty one games because that sounds it's a lot, 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.399 and then you've got playoffs on top of that. I'm 0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.359 saying that someone has thrown this idea out. Is what 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:26.759 would revenue look like if you were to get to 0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.560 that place and say, as players, you're gonna get once 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.080 the season's over, you're not going back to work until 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:33.359 you know, late July. 0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.960 Yeah, I mean, that's that's the problem with our union 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:40.759 and us as players. They throw this little bullshit and 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:43.040 in front of us like hey, guys, look, we're gonna 0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.839 shorten your practice. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do this, 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:49.439 and they slide in seven other games and they take 0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.000 all the revenues for all the guys. Damn the playoffs. Yeah, no, 0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:53.879 it's the same, it is. It is the same thing. 0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.680 I mean, at the end of the day, you get 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.800 to like the safety of the game and the players 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:03.000 they're doing things. I'm glad I'm not playing defense because 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.879 I understand the challenges of playing defense in this league now. 0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:09.760 Yeah, but but when. 0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.680 You add in all the player safety concerns, the things 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:16.839 that are being negotiated by players that we don't want 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:20.000 to do that, then it's like, well, we don't want 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:23.160 to you know what, don't test me for drugs for 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:25.960 a few more weeks. Speaking at the game on yeah, 0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.960 that's there's like the things that like everything we give up, 0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.480 we're also like, or everything we get we're also giving 0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:34.840 something up. Yeah, but they're like laughing the owners or 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:39.040 something that's any doesn't make any difference. Well, you know, 0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:41.080 I don't think they really care about that. 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.879 No, So but the thing is what what what will 0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:46.480 happen if they were to try to do that? The 0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:49.360 product will get so shitty because it's already been sloppy 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.160 these last couple of years. As far as if you 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.520 look at offensive line play at the beginning of each 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:57.400 year I'm on TV, we talk about, oh, the offensive 0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.680 line play for this team, that team, that team, this 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.800 team is terrible. Why is that you get fourteen padded 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:07.560 practices in the regular season, you get what five to 0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:08.920 seven in training camp? 0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:10.759 And that's like an art for these guys. 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.000 They have to have live reps in order to be 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.359 able to communicate and do their job and get the 0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:20.360 situations that they're gonna have in games. So if you 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:25.040 do this, the product is gonna continually get watered down 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.839 and you're gonna lose fanship. So it's one of those 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:30.279 things where they better not get too fast. Oh yeah, 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.520 there is what is it like that, something like that, you. 0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:36.919 Get hungry pigs get slaughtered, something like the hungry pigs 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:39.160 slaughtered exactly. 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.399 It does because the league things are so good where 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.880 they're just gonna keep on generating more and more revenues. 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:44.960 But they're gonna. 0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:49.120 See gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, they're the hungry pigs. Yeah, gotcha. 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.360 I completely agree with you. You have to protect the 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.239 product of the game. And I think that also comes 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.480 down to a responsibility on players who want less and 0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:01.400 less practice who already I think relative between maybe you 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:04.319 started in the league what practice look like versus now, 0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:09.120 it's like you're ignorant to what football used to look like, 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:12.040 right because you never knew it. Like this is like 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.080 the rookies coming in now, this is the NFL. They're 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:17.040 gonna know forever, forever, Right, The NFL that you knew 0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.080 is much different from when you started to where it ended. 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:24.480 There's a responsibility players to do something in the off 0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:27.960 season to prepare yourself to get ready to go. 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.279 But we've been seeing through statistics that that response and 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:34.240 ability has not been getting taken by the player because 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.040 injuries are through a fucking room. 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.560 Had exactly quarterbacks and this is where I think there 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:42.880 There isn't one hundred percent. I don't want to. I 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.960 just wish that more guys showed up ready to go, 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.479 you know. And that's that's why I think I've i'm 0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:52.880 i'm I understand this in terms of the the issues 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.960 between the league and the players, and the product needs 0:54:56.000 --> 0:55:00.480 to be good. And there's obviously that you is always 0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:03.560 gonna argue for less work, the league's always gonna argue 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:04.240 for more games. 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:05.520 There's a middle ground here. 0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:07.160 We gotta come together and figure out what's the way 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.520 we put our best product forward. Give When the product's good, 0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:12.359 the money's gonna be good for the league, which mean 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.360 somebody's been good for the players. It's all gonna go 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:16.200 full circle. But we gotta figure out where that middle 0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:19.399 ground is. There is a responsibility on players to show 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.440 up right to work, I think, and that's where I 0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:25.120 think some of this stuff could happen where guys in 0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:29.000 the summer take I'm like, if you don't want to 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:32.120 be ray for OTAs, I'm fine with that. But the 0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:35.479 guys that leave all summer, don't do anything all summer, 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.440 and then show up for training camp that summer, you 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:42.320 get five weeks from OTAs to the tramp, take your break, 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:44.359 and then get ready to work, because it's in your 0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.520 best interest as a player to show up, raay to go, 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:50.640 to protect yourself, protect your teammates, be ready to put 0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:52.080 your best foot forward. If you don't show up to 0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:55.560 training camp ready to go. I have a hard time 0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:57.719 when guys get hurt, or guys do stuff, or guys 0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:59.800 aren't ready, or guys are you know, getting talked to 0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:03.040 by coaches will potentially get released. It is like I 0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.400 saw that you were in the Caribbean for three weeks. 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:09.000 It's professional football. Yeah, you got this professional football. 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:12.160 Guys used to back in nineteen sixties and seventies that 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.799 played this goddamn game or mechanics in the offseason because 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:16.120 they getting get paid. 0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.480 Its professional Football'll get paid all of good money. Get 0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:22.160 your ass in the gym, on the field, get right, 0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:27.440 and let's go. Yeah, it's to Belichicky. Yeah, let's segue 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.240 this in. Let's start getting into these games. 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:31.320 Hey, before we get into these games and these teams 0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:35.239 real quick. Twenty two. Prior to this season, we had 0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:39.240 some very notable retirements in the NFL. Drew Brees, Lashawn McCoy, 0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:44.160 Philip Rivers, Adam Vinnecciery, Demirius Thomas, Jason Witten, and yours truly, 0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:44.839 Julian Edelman. 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:45.959 I didn't retire this year. 0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:46.640 That's right. 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:47.880 I had to give you a little shine in that. 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:49.680 Brother. Should we get into these teams. 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:54.040 Tough here, Sorry, San Francisco forty nine ers, let's hear 0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:55.480 the Niner game team though. 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.759 Let's love these guys. Grew up loving this team. 0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:01.160 It's better than me wearing a San Francisco shirt. 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.839 That would be disrespectful. Yeah, but I grew up. This 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:06.480 is my team. 0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:06.759 Bro. 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:10.760 My dog's name was Dwight and Montana. I had two dogs, 0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.640 Tim Dwight and Joe Montana. There were my dogs. 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:18.160 I'm part of that franchise. 0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:23.200 Kind of yeah, no you're not, but you know, yeah, 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:24.120 I understand. 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:26.400 Like you've got your your you. 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.440 Keep saying your dogs, Tim DWIGHTE and Dwight Clark, Dwight Clark, 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:31.400 Tim patri with him. 0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:32.439 That's what I'm saying. 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:35.120 That's saying you have your allegiance, Like when you're growing up, 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:38.200 you have your allegiance, but eventually you you're a Patriot. 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.320 Yeah, I'm full of full on patriot. Was a guy 0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.080 growing up was that you were a Seahawks guy or what. No, 0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:46.200 I'm from Washington, so I I yeah, I grew up Seattle. 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.160 Seahawks were kind of the team. 0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.120 And then he got to a point where I like 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:56.920 bedtime was when the game was over, so I was 0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:58.800 rooting for overtime always. 0:57:59.520 --> 0:57:59.960 I got that. 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:00.440 Yeah. 0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:04.280 And then there's also a point where you know, uh, 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:10.720 Hasselbeck had his this moment and then Seawn Alexander, Shawn 0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:14.360 Alexander kind of like started just he was just kind 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:18.720 of done. I think he's only cover Madden. He's the same, 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.840 and it was it just wasn't really the same. And 0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:22.280 that's why I really had tough. I'm like, you know what, 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.240 I just want to see good football. And that's so 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.200 I kind of transitioned. I just wanted I don't want 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.560 to see good football teams, good football players. You mentioned 0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:30.720 the Seahawks. You guys both played a lot like Steve. 0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:35.000 Largin loved large and he's he's the godfather, even though 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:37.680 we don't play anything alike. But just being a white. 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.680 Dude that got up and went down that sideline, jumped 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:45.000 and got it, loved them, loved them. 0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:45.160 Call of Faber. 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.760 He's like a he's like a congressman. Now, yeah, look 0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.640 that up. Yeah, he's like he's fucking like sharp. 0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:52.640 Damn shout out Steve. 0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:55.040 All right, So this Niners team, this was the fifth 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:58.080 year of the Shanahan Lynch era. Bounced back from his 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.680 six and ten season the year prior started this year 0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:03.320 three and five, had to go seven and nine to 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:06.040 make the playoffs. In that last year of the season 0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:08.200 or that last week of the season, it was winning 0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:11.880 get in against the Rams. As Coop mentioned earlier. Top 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:15.120 ten in total offense, top ten and total defense. Pretty 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.080 well put together on both sides of the ball. This 0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:19.280 was the fifth season of the Jimmy g era in 0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:22.680 San Francisco, which is kind of Jimmy. And this was 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.479 the year that they traded up to make that Trey 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:27.000 Lance pick third. 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.600 Overall, how's that one working out? 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:33.320 But they also got brocked pretty right in that same draft. 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:37.080 No year, next year, next year, Yeah, next year. And 0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:40.800 then Pro Bowlers Kyle of used, Check, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle, 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:46.120 Trent Williams, Alex Mack, Nick Bosa, and Laken Tomlinson. 0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:48.840 Alex Mack was really good for a long time. He's 0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:50.520 probably the best center for our generation. 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:53.439 He's doing the splits no way. 0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.240 Yeah, he's like really flexible. Damn I know that. Should 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.400 we hit these rams real quick? Coop jump in anytime. 0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.080 This is your squad, brother h Cooper Cup became the 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:05.080 first player to win the Triple Crown since Steve Smith 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:07.360 in two thousand and five. That was the big headline 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:10.120 of this season. It's also Stafford's first year in LA. 1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:13.520 That was huge. He had a banner year career high 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:17.320 in touchdowns, in completion percentage. As we noted with our 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:21.080 former guest Andrew Whitworth, this was his sixteenth and final 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:22.040 season in the NFL. 1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:23.880 He went out on top like a beast. 1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:24.640 Love that. 1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:28.120 And then Obj joined the squad in week ten. Came 1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:32.000 over from Cleveland after his dad made those comments, and he. 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:35.520 Put it highlight the highlight film. It's like a Bill 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:38.040 highlight film. It's a low light right there. BROI to 1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:40.120 Bill too. And then Pro Bowlers. 1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:42.960 We got Cooper Cup, Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, and kicker 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:44.800 Matt Gay. What a squad? 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:48.800 Oh that's Pro Bowlers. Kind of weird, right, Team up 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:49.800 North A. 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:51.800 Lot of mattered was at the end. What's that mean? 1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:54.560 Team up North. He's got a bunch of names. You 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:57.400 guys are underdogs always, that's they're north of. 1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:02.040 US twelve and five team won the NFC West by 1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:05.800 the way, McVay head coach and a lot of Uh 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:09.840 we had Kevin o'connellosi, right. 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:13.520 He was yep, how do you like koc He's a man. 1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:17.640 I really like him. I played with him, that's right. Yeah, 1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:19.680 my rookie year dream. 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:21.920 Well he was cool. I mean I was a rookie. 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:22.840 He was a second year guy. 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:24.600 Oh gotcha, So you treat you will? 1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:27.880 Uh yeah, we we hung out a bunch. There's like 1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:31.160 a slap dick group. He was part he was part 1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:33.240 of the Well, we were just guys that you know 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:36.680 that weren't starters. You know, they were the Patriots then 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:40.240 they already had like it just came off of two 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:43.720 years ago. They almost went undefeated, three super Bowls and ship. 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:44.720 So like there's a group. 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:48.640 There's like socioeconomic statuses in the locker room. You understand that, No, 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:51.680 we don't do that. How was the share of receivers Odell? 1:01:52.000 --> 1:01:53.800 It was great. Honestly. 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:59.600 He came in energy, energy and he's he's he is himself. 1:01:59.760 --> 1:02:03.920 He's going to be who he is. I think anytime you, 1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:06.560 I imagine I've been with her. I've been looking enough 1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:08.680 to be with the Rams for you know, coming on 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:11.240 eight years now. So I don't know what it's like 1:02:11.320 --> 1:02:14.080 going to a new team either do you. But so 1:02:14.200 --> 1:02:16.000 I would imagine you come in like you're trying to 1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:18.240 You're in a new place around, surrounded by a bunch 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:20.200 of new people, trying to get a feel for what 1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:22.680 the room's about, how we do things. And I think 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:24.520 there was probably like a one week period where it 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:28.120 was like an adjustment period of like, uh, we don't 1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:31.960 we don't do that. But it wasn't ever anything like 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:34.960 yeah nothing, nothing egregious or anything. But it was like 1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:36.280 there was a girlth and then it was like, man, 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:37.640 he's just a part of the team. And he was 1:02:37.760 --> 1:02:40.640 such an incredible teammate, brought so much energy to everything 1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:43.240 that we did, and obviously it was a huge part 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:44.320 of that that season. 1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:47.040 He's got an aura, you know what I mean, when 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:50.120 you got Odell, It's kind of like when Tebow joined 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:53.640 our team, Like he came in and he had an 1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:56.960 aura about him. So it's it's always fun to hear 1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:58.360 about how they are in the room. 1:02:58.640 --> 1:03:01.120 Yeah, how was that with the tibo? 1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:03.560 Oh man, I've talked about it so much on this podcast. 1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:06.200 What makes Sean and Jay so special? 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:11.920 Oh? 1:03:12.800 --> 1:03:24.120 Quick transitions? Okay, what makes Sean McVay so special? 1:03:24.560 --> 1:03:25.200 Uh? 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:27.640 And all honestly, you get serious for a second. 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:29.080 He does. 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:31.800 He commands the room. That ane I've ever been around, 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:34.840 right like comes in. His ability to communicate to people 1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:39.080 get a message across is a one. I think it's 1:03:39.280 --> 1:03:41.800 for any coach. If you can't, if you're not a 1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:44.800 good communicator, you're gonna make everyone's life miserable. And so 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:48.120 for him, as from the very top, you're getting clear, 1:03:48.800 --> 1:03:52.080 concise communication that trickles down through through everything. 1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:53.960 When we had wit on, he said he walked in 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:57.640 on McVeigh watching game tape of himself giving speeches to 1:03:57.680 --> 1:03:59.640 the team, trying to break down his own stuff. 1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:02.360 Why do you pause? After he said he walked in on. 1:04:02.240 --> 1:04:02.720 The gate. 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:05.640 Traumatic effects? 1:04:08.320 --> 1:04:09.560 I was like, doing what. 1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:12.560 Linger for a second? 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:12.880 Yeah? 1:04:13.000 --> 1:04:14.919 No, yeah, well, because I think that was a super 1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:17.520 important thing for him coming he was I mean, he 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:20.520 was my age when he was head coach of the 1:04:20.680 --> 1:04:24.479 la As you're you're stepping in, you're my age, going 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:27.080 in like I can understand being critical and wanting to 1:04:27.160 --> 1:04:29.160 learn from all this. This is your first time leading 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:32.160 team meeting as players, we can opportunity to watch ourselves 1:04:32.160 --> 1:04:33.920 and learn. And you know, I think he wanted to 1:04:33.960 --> 1:04:35.800 learn and be the best that he could be for us. 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:38.640 You know, I think that's uh, he takes that mentality. 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:42.600 He is very critical of himself and wants to be 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:45.720 He doesn't want to let people down, and you know, 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:47.200 that's kind of it's hard for people, and I think 1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:48.520 that's kind of what drives a lot of the things 1:04:48.520 --> 1:04:49.040 that he does. 1:04:49.400 --> 1:04:52.920 I love that he he like just outside looking in 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:56.439 and I mean, I've gone to practice, but I'm not there. 1:04:56.480 --> 1:04:59.960 But you could just tell he's got just leadership quality. 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:02.560 He's a leader of men. 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:03.720 Is that? 1:05:03.760 --> 1:05:09.520 And then the communication thing is is so. 1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:11.440 So important in this generation. Yeah, just you know what 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:11.760 I mean. 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:14.240 And he knows how to do He seems like he 1:05:14.320 --> 1:05:17.080 knows how to be a chameleon with each guy to 1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:18.640 make them get their best. 1:05:18.880 --> 1:05:23.000 Yeah, exactly, find find ways to motivate people and connect 1:05:23.040 --> 1:05:23.360 with them. 1:05:23.560 --> 1:05:24.920 I think he does a he does a really good 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:25.320 job of that. 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:26.920 Yeah he does. 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:29.120 Now, one guy, you're probably gonna be missing that was 1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:33.280 on this team Aaron Donald, I mean that's how how 1:05:33.440 --> 1:05:35.800 like special was just to watch him in practice. 1:05:36.080 --> 1:05:38.960 Yeah, he's I mean, there's nothing like what he was 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:43.720 able to do. The chances that his it was really like, 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:46.919 his ability to choose win, to take risks and take 1:05:47.160 --> 1:05:51.840 his shot was unbelievable because of his preparation, because of 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:57.120 the you know, his preparation going into games. And then 1:05:57.480 --> 1:05:59.480 it was when he did take his shot and it 1:05:59.520 --> 1:06:02.640 wasn't there his ability to then counter and like close 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:04.760 gaps still, right, he'd play out of his gap more 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:08.720 than anyone ever, but he would make sure that he 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:11.400 was doing his job and closing it if he was 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:14.360 an issue, you know, like yeah, but he wasn't he 1:06:14.440 --> 1:06:16.760 two gap, but he'd straight up he'd run around you. 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:19.560 He's so fast, so quick, Like it's like I'm gonna 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:21.480 get past you and I'm gonna make things around on 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:22.080 the other side. 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:24.040 Now, was he a guy that like lived in the 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:26.000 weight room? He was alway, Oh, he's ridiculous. 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:29.320 He I think so AD's thing like he secretly wants 1:06:29.360 --> 1:06:33.000 to be like h Like he wants to be Dwayne Johnson. 1:06:34.720 --> 1:06:37.360 That's where that's where his Yeah, he wants to be that. 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:40.080 He wants to be the rock and he's so he 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:43.000 spends so much time lifting and it's not even like 1:06:43.000 --> 1:06:46.720 like functional lifts sometimes, you know, it's. 1:06:46.600 --> 1:06:47.920 I've actually worked out with him. 1:06:47.920 --> 1:06:49.840 I went and worked out with him one time, so 1:06:49.840 --> 1:06:51.240 I was like, hey, the off season's like you get 1:06:51.280 --> 1:06:53.480 to work on them together. Tells me the toime show 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:57.080 up an hour and a half straight of arms an 1:06:57.120 --> 1:06:59.439 hour and a half, you amy muscles up in your arms, 1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:02.280 not there's not a lot like seven Yeah, that's saying 1:07:02.320 --> 1:07:05.760 like bicep, tricep, Yeah, shoulder maybe if you count that 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:08.520 as part of your arm and the forums for. 1:07:08.480 --> 1:07:09.200 An hour and a half. 1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:10.720 I mean he looked like it. 1:07:11.040 --> 1:07:13.800 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, you don't need to 1:07:13.920 --> 1:07:15.479 be doing arms for an. 1:07:15.360 --> 1:07:15.880 Hour and a half. 1:07:15.960 --> 1:07:18.959 No, but when your baby rhino, you do that, dude 1:07:19.000 --> 1:07:20.760 look like a straight rhino. 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:23.160 He is unbelievably strong. 1:07:23.240 --> 1:07:25.080 And then obviously all the things on top of it 1:07:25.120 --> 1:07:27.680 that you have as a football player where there's like 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:31.000 he just loves working out, loves lifting, and that just 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:33.760 it was an extra little part on top of the 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:36.480 fact that he is, you know, I think the best 1:07:36.480 --> 1:07:38.280 defensive player of all time and the skills and all 1:07:38.280 --> 1:07:39.600 the stuff stuff that he had going for him. 1:07:39.600 --> 1:07:42.360 In that regard, how many dtackles in the history of 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:45.640 the NFL have had abs, it's. 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:47.080 Not a lot a lot. 1:07:47.360 --> 1:07:49.240 Who's the unsung hero of this game though, before we 1:07:49.280 --> 1:07:49.800 get into the. 1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:52.680 Game unsung here of this game for the team, for 1:07:52.800 --> 1:07:56.040 the team, it's hard to say. There are so many 1:07:56.040 --> 1:07:59.600 guys that made plays throughout that entire game. I'm not 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:01.600 sure if I choose one person it was. I think 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:04.640 it was just a full team win. Yeah, everyone just 1:08:04.760 --> 1:08:08.200 everyone did their job and it was a good when 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:10.840 that when they needed to be they were it. 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:13.400 Will make plays, definitely, don't. 1:08:13.400 --> 1:08:14.760 I don't have anything I like that though. 1:08:14.960 --> 1:08:17.200 I like when you when you win against the team 1:08:17.360 --> 1:08:21.120 and they were your they were your kryptonite for a while. 1:08:21.200 --> 1:08:21.360 Bro. 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:25.559 That's big to do in the NFC Championship after losing 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:27.320 them twice in the same year, Like, there's a lot 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:29.559 to prove. Everyone had to do their fucking job to 1:08:29.600 --> 1:08:32.040 get that wine to go to the next game and 1:08:32.080 --> 1:08:33.880 play the last game of the year, the best game 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:35.640 of the year, Amen. 1:08:35.880 --> 1:08:36.680 Lead game lead up. 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:38.479 Yeah, let's talk about how we got to this game. 1:08:38.560 --> 1:08:42.519 It was pretty decent amen. The The Niners come in 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:44.519 as a sixth seed, the Rams come in as the 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:45.160 four seed. 1:08:45.439 --> 1:08:46.320 The path to get there the. 1:08:46.360 --> 1:08:49.640 Niners had to win at Dallas and at Lambeau in 1:08:49.720 --> 1:08:50.160 the snow. 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:55.680 It's like an It was MVP Jimmy G. 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:59.760 Jimmy G takes out the MVP. Baby man, what we 1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:04.439 do Rogers jokes and the Rams their path was pretty 1:09:04.479 --> 1:09:05.240 crazy as well. 1:09:05.600 --> 1:09:08.800 Easy win on the road in Arizona when thirty four 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.680 to eleven, and then the crazy game down in Tampa 1:09:12.960 --> 1:09:16.640 taking out Brady Cooper coming through huge at the end. 1:09:16.720 --> 1:09:19.519 That's got to be So is that January twenty third, 1:09:20.160 --> 1:09:23.160 that was Covers Area. Yeah, Jerny twenty third might be 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:26.880 the best day in history for football because you guys 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:29.439 more the game that was after that, that was the 1:09:29.520 --> 1:09:33.400 Chiefs Bills game. That's right, Oh, that was like right 1:09:33.439 --> 1:09:34.000 after that game. 1:09:34.120 --> 1:09:35.080 Holy smokes. 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:39.800 Divisional round always crazy. That's a fun weekend when you 1:09:39.840 --> 1:09:42.080 get out and you start to enjoy this like you're 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:44.880 in it, so you're still doing it, like, oh my god, 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:48.760 Divisional but nothing like championships. Saturday is awesome too. 1:09:48.840 --> 1:09:51.880 Yeah, dude, I think I think Coop just just brought 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:52.400 up a point. 1:09:52.439 --> 1:09:54.320 We got to do that as an episode that day 1:09:55.320 --> 1:09:57.519 like a grand finale, the greatest day in football in 1:09:57.920 --> 1:09:58.639 recent history. 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:01.320 It would be it would be competitive that game that 1:10:01.720 --> 1:10:02.839 day insane. 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:04.320 Those are two of the. 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:08.880 Wildest games because I thought that obviously both different too, 1:10:08.960 --> 1:10:10.880 like one of them were just a story of two 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:11.639 different halves. 1:10:12.080 --> 1:10:14.080 And then you know that game, which was just back 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:15.560 and forth, back and forth. 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:17.680 Created an overtime role. 1:10:18.439 --> 1:10:21.240 Tampa Bay game I think at one point was the 1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:24.519 game twenty seventy three. I believe we were up at 1:10:24.520 --> 1:10:26.320 one point, we were up. We were up a lot, 1:10:26.080 --> 1:10:28.439 and we turned the ball over right before halftime. 1:10:28.479 --> 1:10:28.639 Too. 1:10:29.800 --> 1:10:31.600 I didn't have money on them beating you guys. I 1:10:31.640 --> 1:10:34.519 had money of them going to the super Bowl on Tampa. 1:10:34.960 --> 1:10:35.160 Yeah. 1:10:35.240 --> 1:10:37.800 I put it like a what do you lose fifty k? 1:10:38.000 --> 1:10:38.519 Fifty k? 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:42.519 We were cursing your name a little zero. 1:10:42.560 --> 1:10:45.840 Guess that's what we're gonna do with zero, not cover 1:10:45.920 --> 1:10:47.479 the fucking crown winner. 1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:49.639 I believe that call. Let's put a. 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:51.519 Safety on the triple crown winner, folks. 1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:54.360 I believe that the safety crowd winner. 1:10:55.200 --> 1:10:58.960 Fifty thous kids going to junior college. 1:10:59.000 --> 1:11:03.280 Now, no, you. 1:11:03.240 --> 1:11:06.200 Are right, you are right, Cooper, twenty seven to three. 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:10.080 So with I remember looking up at the score and 1:11:10.160 --> 1:11:12.080 being like, gosh, I'm so glass, not twenty eight to three. 1:11:13.720 --> 1:11:16.599 I remember, Hey, oh gosh, so last not twenty to three. 1:11:16.880 --> 1:11:18.960 Oh my god, that's the quarter of the episode. Yeah, 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:21.120 with seven minutes left, y'all went up twenty in the 1:11:21.160 --> 1:11:21.679 third quarter. 1:11:21.880 --> 1:11:24.920 Yeah, man, I remember being like that, being a sans. 1:11:25.479 --> 1:11:27.960 Let's jump back into the game lead. Yeah, yeah, all right, 1:11:28.080 --> 1:11:30.400 back to the lead up of the game at hand. Here, 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:33.880 the Niners, as we mentioned before, had won both regular 1:11:33.920 --> 1:11:38.519 season matchups. Kyle Shanahan kind of had coach mcvay's number 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:41.320 one six in a row against him coming into this one, 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:42.480 which is crazy. 1:11:42.560 --> 1:11:46.800 And the Niners front was insane. This playoff run five 1:11:46.920 --> 1:11:50.000 sacks in both the wild card and Divisional round games 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:53.599 for him, that was crazy. And also that Niners playoff 1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:56.200 run against the Cowboys that was the first meeting since 1:11:56.280 --> 1:11:58.080 ninety four, rekindling the old. 1:11:58.160 --> 1:12:01.120 Niners Cowboys rivalry which you remember growing up. 1:12:01.160 --> 1:12:05.240 Jewels hated the Cowboys, and then crazy This game at 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:09.000 hand we're talking about today, the title game. Michael Buffer 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:12.160 did the opening kickoff. Let's get ready to rumble, guy, 1:12:12.520 --> 1:12:14.800 I do remember that wild What was up with this 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:16.880 era of guys like La. 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:20.519 La they bring out, they bring out the stars. 1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:23.280 The Rock opened up a game, then the Rock open 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:27.920 up the super the Niners roster. Yeah this they went 1:12:27.960 --> 1:12:30.280 on a run here at one point over the last 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:31.840 three years. I think we kindt of like, they're like 1:12:31.960 --> 1:12:35.479 seven first rounders on the defensive line. Oh yeah, but 1:12:35.520 --> 1:12:38.479 they just up front was man was pretty good. 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:41.120 They had like two number one overall picks or something. 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:41.720 Yeah. 1:12:42.280 --> 1:12:48.120 Now, you guys played this going in, going into the postseason, 1:12:48.120 --> 1:12:52.160 you played them twice. Did you guys really watch those 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:53.760 games to prepare or. 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:54.599 We did so? 1:12:54.720 --> 1:12:57.639 This first actually this first, I think this first touchdown 1:12:57.680 --> 1:13:01.680 here in the second quarter, the sixteen yard pass, yep, 1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:04.240 it was in the Yeah, it was the corner, yes, 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:07.599 but it was the cover two corner route that we ran. 1:13:07.920 --> 1:13:10.759 And we'd actually seen the way that they were playing 1:13:10.800 --> 1:13:16.439 some stuff, uh to the backside on in the last 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:19.920 game of the year. They were getting lazy at safety 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:23.960 covering what felt like a backside route, and so we 1:13:24.280 --> 1:13:27.760 put this based a really similar concept up but kept 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:30.479 put to the front side. Let Matthew kind of mess 1:13:30.520 --> 1:13:33.400 with that safety where you can look eyes away, hold it, 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:36.280 you can put a little bit extra on the corner route. 1:13:36.560 --> 1:13:38.439 And then Matthew was able to just dart that thing 1:13:38.479 --> 1:13:39.080 in there. 1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:41.480 And the running back goes out to the flat. 1:13:41.479 --> 1:13:43.360 And yeah, try to get hold hold the guy down 1:13:43.560 --> 1:13:46.400 the corner. Yeah, we had a few things. Actually, Koc 1:13:46.640 --> 1:13:49.960 I believe was the one that had kind of caught 1:13:50.000 --> 1:13:51.519 that and installed that play for us. 1:13:51.680 --> 1:13:54.960 Now in your second touchdown pass, were you supposed to 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:57.000 break out and then go and then he just beat 1:13:57.040 --> 1:13:57.639 him and just went. 1:13:58.240 --> 1:14:01.760 So the second one was against Kwan, right, So that's 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:03.719 a man play that we had called. 1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:06.799 And I'm not sure what happened. 1:14:07.040 --> 1:14:10.360 Something got messed up out of clock was running down 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:13.439 or what, and we we called it. 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:14.640 We had a second play on it. 1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:17.040 We're like, hey, if we get manned, run if we don't, 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:19.160 if we got zoned, get get out of the play. 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:22.160 But we snapped the ball and they're in cover four, 1:14:23.120 --> 1:14:26.680 so we're in a we're in a packed formation. Were 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:30.439 a tight bunch, right, and normally yes, I'm supposed to 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:32.960 like wheel this thing out and count and like really, 1:14:32.960 --> 1:14:34.760 it's like it's like a stutter. It's really a play 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:38.360 that we ran later on, or really a similar play 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:40.720 we ran in the end of the the at the 1:14:40.800 --> 1:14:43.360 end of the season against Jimmy Warves. Little little stutter 1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:46.360 go it's a little stutter fade, is what it really is. 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:47.800 Like clear everything out and then we kind of stutter 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:51.639 fade from the slot they go. They go cover four 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:55.080 and like, shoot, okay, now this this changes this route, 1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:58.320 now cover four. If you got someone quick to the flat, 1:14:58.960 --> 1:15:01.600 I can disappear because I know if that corner attaches 1:15:01.720 --> 1:15:03.720 to this, you know, this little. 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:06.400 Short post route that's coming right. 1:15:06.400 --> 1:15:08.680 If I get that that corner attaches and I out 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:11.400 leveraged the flat player, there's a chance that you can 1:15:11.479 --> 1:15:14.320 kind of like foop gap him down right back behind him. 1:15:14.360 --> 1:15:15.680 So I kind of sped it up to kind of 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:19.280 basically kind of get lost outside of Kawan Williams and 1:15:19.360 --> 1:15:21.080 try wheel up to the front of Pilon And because 1:15:21.120 --> 1:15:23.000 I know where Matthew just did a great job game 1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:25.360 that ball. I mean, Kawan is like looking this way 1:15:25.360 --> 1:15:27.000 and the balls behind his head now on the other 1:15:27.040 --> 1:15:30.400 side just happened to be a good spot by Matthew. 1:15:30.400 --> 1:15:31.960 But yeah, one of those ones where it's not exactly 1:15:32.000 --> 1:15:33.880 what you're calling it for. But you find a way 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:34.639 to kind of make it. 1:15:34.720 --> 1:15:36.240 We used to have a play like that called re 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:39.280 pump that was specifically for cover four because once you 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:42.600 go out and you run it out, that guy's gonna go, 1:15:42.680 --> 1:15:44.720 and then you have the you have the post that's 1:15:44.760 --> 1:15:45.439 gonna collect them. 1:15:45.520 --> 1:15:47.000 You just got to make sure you grab that corner. 1:15:47.160 --> 1:15:49.640 But you got to make sure you grab the linebacker 1:15:49.720 --> 1:15:51.760 and make him. You got to be patient with it. 1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:54.479 Oh you're saying you, yeah, I'm saying, but the corner 1:15:54.520 --> 1:15:56.479 outside and grab the corner first. 1:15:56.880 --> 1:15:58.880 That if the corner lets him go, you bang. 1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:01.439 Yep, exactly, corners off and then if that corner touches 1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:03.200 you're trying to like high low and high low. 1:16:03.960 --> 1:16:06.559 It's also a good cover six meter, which is cover three. 1:16:07.080 --> 1:16:08.400 Cover six is not cover three. 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:11.439 We will we use will for people out there. Cover 1:16:11.520 --> 1:16:14.559 six is to the strength of the defense. We didn't 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:16.960 bring the safety to the tight end. That's what we 1:16:17.040 --> 1:16:20.439 used to call cover six sixty six six. Cover three 1:16:20.520 --> 1:16:23.000 is if he went away from Oh really yeah, so 1:16:23.040 --> 1:16:26.720 if the safety went away from the passing strength. Yes, 1:16:26.840 --> 1:16:30.040 called six was a version of three. Well, it's a 1:16:30.120 --> 1:16:32.919 version of three. It's just the guy goes different side. Yeah, 1:16:33.280 --> 1:16:35.320 but it's the same. We had the same They had 1:16:35.360 --> 1:16:38.799 the same responsibility. Interesting, Jack, give me a quick rundown, 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:39.920 quick rundown of this game. 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:44.280 Scoreless first quarter. We remember that that tough interception on 1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:47.559 the second drive of the game for the Rams, Stafford 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:48.360 thing the red area. 1:16:48.720 --> 1:16:49.240 That was tough. 1:16:49.240 --> 1:16:51.639 But the Rams bounce back with the touchdown we talked 1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:53.639 about earlier, ninety seven yard d D drive. 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:55.120 Cooper got his first TD. 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:58.960 San Francisco answered with a long debot touchdown forty four yarder. 1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:02.040 Uh Matt Gay misses a fifty four yard field goal 1:17:02.479 --> 1:17:05.679 just before the half. San Francisco leads ten to seven. 1:17:05.720 --> 1:17:08.519 At the half, the Rams are held scoreless. In the third, 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:11.800 George Kittle TD late puts them up ten. So the 1:17:11.840 --> 1:17:14.759 Rams go into the fourth quarter here trailing seventeen to seven. 1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:18.240 The comeback starts when Coop gets his second touchdown of 1:17:18.240 --> 1:17:20.600 the game, an eleven yarder. Matt Gay then bangs in 1:17:20.680 --> 1:17:23.720 two field goals and with about nine to forty seven. 1:17:23.800 --> 1:17:26.400 I believe it was left in the fourth there was 1:17:26.439 --> 1:17:31.280 a brutal, brutal drop by San Francisco safety Jaqueski Tart 1:17:31.760 --> 1:17:34.160 that would have kind of maybe maybe sealed this thing 1:17:34.160 --> 1:17:37.280 for the Rams. There was six left, like nine something left, 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:38.320 and they were up three. 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:40.000 We would have been in a precarious situation. 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:41.559 Yeah, for sure. It would have been brutal because they 1:17:41.560 --> 1:17:44.080 would have had the ball on their over the fifty. 1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:47.559 He drops it, the Rams stay alive, ends up. 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:50.880 It's obj. The next played in the soft spot cover 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:52.479 too right, I believe so. 1:17:52.920 --> 1:17:55.960 And then Matt Gay bangs one in with a minute 1:17:56.000 --> 1:17:57.720 forty six left. 1:17:58.000 --> 1:17:59.800 Still give Jimmy g a minute forty six on the 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:02.800 He throws a pick on that third down and long. 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:06.200 That was it, taking the twenty to seventeen Rams win. 1:18:06.640 --> 1:18:09.519 We'll going to the super Bowl, but just stay at home. 1:18:09.640 --> 1:18:09.880 Yeah. 1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:12.559 First off, I got a question. What's Mickveigh like in 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:16.000 halftime when you guys are down? Is he like guy, No, 1:18:16.040 --> 1:18:21.080 it's pretty Sunday. You usually don't see No, it's not 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:23.880 usually not like the coaches. Once you get into the 1:18:23.920 --> 1:18:26.240 locker room, all the coaches go back, right, so it's 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:28.800 to like do like make the adjustments, talk about whatever 1:18:28.840 --> 1:18:29.240 they want to make. 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:30.880 So it's just the players in the locker room, right 1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:32.639 like cool down, yep, yep. 1:18:32.840 --> 1:18:36.240 It's oceans usually pretty quiet, there's a few conversations happening 1:18:36.240 --> 1:18:37.479 on like stuff that they're seeing. 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:40.400 Except guys are like with their you know, respect. 1:18:40.040 --> 1:18:42.120 Line guys are with lying guys qbs. You're talking to 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:46.479 past catchers exactly. Some like very communicating figuring out our stuff. 1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:50.040 Coach comes down, it's kind of like, hey, it's almost 1:18:50.040 --> 1:18:52.760 always like first half's over, here's here's the plane going 1:18:52.800 --> 1:18:56.400 for it, right, It's like very Derek, it's quick halftime, 1:18:56.400 --> 1:18:58.559 it's pretty quick. So he's pretty dialed in, like, hey, 1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:00.120 this is the stuff that we're going to do if 1:19:00.160 --> 1:19:02.720 we like going forward. And it's like, man, here's a 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:07.080 quick quick message, you know, usually something just like we 1:19:07.160 --> 1:19:09.439 got like we're in control as black, We've got going 1:19:09.479 --> 1:19:13.120 on here, We're right there, and pretty simple and a 1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:17.479 whole lot of fanciness to it. Now, you guys win 1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:20.080 this game, you get the monkey off your back. You 1:19:20.240 --> 1:19:23.760 finally beat the San Francisco forty nine er. Yeah, how 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:25.919 was it playing a Super Bowl in your home stadium? 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:27.599 Was it an advantage because you guys got to stay 1:19:27.600 --> 1:19:29.400 at home and stuff and stay away from like. 1:19:29.360 --> 1:19:32.720 What how was that? Because yeah, I mean it. 1:19:32.680 --> 1:19:35.040 Takes away from the experience, but it's also kind of 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:36.960 like a baby advantage because you get to be in 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:37.599 your own space. 1:19:37.920 --> 1:19:39.639 Yeah yeah, I mean I slept in my own bed 1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:43.840 until basically the night before the game, which is a 1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:47.120 huge amazing Like I love that we were in our 1:19:47.120 --> 1:19:50.439 own locker room, you know, like it felt it what 1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:53.439 it did. I was thankful I had been to one before, 1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:55.679 even though I wasn't playing it. I was I saw 1:19:55.720 --> 1:19:57.600 how much of a build up there is to the 1:19:57.640 --> 1:19:59.920 Super Bowl and how much it lends it. Stuff like 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:02.439 even when you're the game's about to start, they don't 1:20:02.439 --> 1:20:05.000 tell you, like there's so much more that's about to happen. Still, 1:20:05.439 --> 1:20:08.000 they don't tell you the Rock's gonna give them monologue. Yeah, 1:20:08.479 --> 1:20:10.679 you know out there as you're on the field getting 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:13.040 ready for kickoff. So like there's all this build up, 1:20:13.040 --> 1:20:15.000 but then once you finally kick the ball off, it's 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:19.160 just it's the game, right, And so I was we 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:20.720 had kind of preaching like, hey guys, this is again, 1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:22.880 there's gonna be so much build up to this, just 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:24.559 let it be. Once the game gets here, it's just 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:27.000 it's the same game. It helped that we were in 1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:29.920 our own like it was our own rhythm and any 1:20:29.920 --> 1:20:32.320 other game that kind of helped lend itself to like, hey, 1:20:32.360 --> 1:20:35.280 this is this is just like any other game we've played. 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:37.240 Just go out there and play your game. 1:20:37.600 --> 1:20:41.160 Yeah, I mean it's gotta be. That's that's kind of 1:20:41.200 --> 1:20:43.840 an advantage. You're you get to stay away. You get 1:20:43.840 --> 1:20:46.479 to have your guys in their own area, because half 1:20:46.560 --> 1:20:48.360 the time there's at least one or two guys that 1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:52.960 are yeah out passed curfew guy out in Oakland. Raiders 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:53.880 went to Mexico. 1:20:54.439 --> 1:20:55.040 They never came. 1:20:55.080 --> 1:20:56.200 But like there's always a story. 1:20:56.240 --> 1:20:59.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it is nice. 1:21:00.200 --> 1:21:00.479 Go ahead. 1:21:00.520 --> 1:21:02.840 Teams just have to start, you know, owners of teams 1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:05.240 just you start paying seven billion dollars to build a 1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:07.720 stadium and then they can host the super Bowl and 1:21:07.760 --> 1:21:09.559 then get to the super Bowl when it's your turn. 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:12.120 Or you could be an owner and you can have 1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:15.439 a city pay for your stadium and then have people 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:17.000 come to your stadium that you own. 1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:21.040 That's a tricky, it's just a tricky, tricky path. I 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:23.000 think you just make the seven billions, make the billion 1:21:23.000 --> 1:21:24.719 yourself and do yourself exactly. 1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:24.920 Men. 1:21:25.760 --> 1:21:28.439 I mean, if you can do that, this craft owns 1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:31.559 it starting all out to do what it's up, Jackie. 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:32.120 What's aftermath? 1:21:32.200 --> 1:21:33.920 This was wrap up this game. I know we talked 1:21:33.920 --> 1:21:37.080 Super Bowl, but in this NFC Championship Cooper finished with 1:21:37.080 --> 1:21:39.040 eleven catches one hundred and forty. 1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:40.960 Two yards, two tuds. 1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:44.840 And to make it even crazier, your third down stats alone, 1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:47.400 seven catches, one hundred and eight yards, two tds. 1:21:48.000 --> 1:21:48.879 Third down alone. 1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:51.360 I made a living clutch, Gene. 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:54.439 And then the aftermath of this game, the Rams would 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:56.240 go on to beat the Bengals twenty three to twenty 1:21:56.360 --> 1:21:59.160 in Super Bowl fifty six. Hooper Cup would win Super 1:21:59.200 --> 1:22:02.400 Bowl MVP Andrew Whitworth would right off into the sunset. 1:22:02.720 --> 1:22:04.559 The Rams would go five and twelve the next season, 1:22:05.200 --> 1:22:07.880 and on the Niners front, Rock Party would take. 1:22:07.800 --> 1:22:10.639 Them to the NFC Championship game the next season. 1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:15.799 Crazy awesome. We'll be right back after this quick break. 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:24.639 Let's name the game. We got a third and cup. Nice, 1:22:25.000 --> 1:22:28.559 We're going to the Super Bowl. Suck it, san Fran, 1:22:29.920 --> 1:22:33.200 the third times the charm game or do you have 1:22:33.240 --> 1:22:33.800 any other ones? 1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:36.599 I'm partial to that third one, but I mean. 1:22:37.360 --> 1:22:39.840 It's get sand Fran. I'll say it for you if 1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:40.320 you don't want. 1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:42.479 To, but yeah, and do I have to say the name. 1:22:42.520 --> 1:22:43.760 You don't have to say it, but you have to 1:22:43.760 --> 1:22:47.120 pick the name. You gotta pick it. You three option 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:49.280 three or you have any off the top of your dome. 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:51.880 Uh, have anything off the top of my head? 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:55.680 Suck at sand fran It is score the game. Is 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:59.160 this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it? 1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:04.759 Stakes zero to ten decimals? Okay, the steaks of this game? 1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:06.400 What was on? What were the stakes? 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:07.200 Super Bowl? 1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:09.559 Super Bowls on the line of stakes are hot. It's 1:23:09.560 --> 1:23:10.920 not super Bowl, so you can't go ten? 1:23:11.720 --> 1:23:12.040 All right? 1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:16.479 Nine five five five veteran move knowing that it's not 1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:17.800 a super Bowl, so it can't be a ten. 1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:18.439 Veteran move. 1:23:18.520 --> 1:23:19.040 Veteran move. 1:23:19.240 --> 1:23:22.240 Star power in the building on the teams. 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:26.120 We're in LA we got yeah, star powers high We're going, 1:23:26.760 --> 1:23:28.760 Uh nine to two? 1:23:28.920 --> 1:23:32.160 You got any star friends at our friends from being 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:33.960 out here in l A. Do you have any star friends? 1:23:34.160 --> 1:23:34.280 Uh? 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:35.479 Hex Zach King? 1:23:36.520 --> 1:23:39.920 Yeah, dak zach Zach King? 1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:44.320 Who's that too old to old? Who's that king? You 1:23:44.320 --> 1:23:46.400 guys don't know me? And looking up after this, thank 1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:47.679 you guys. You guys don't know stuff. 1:23:48.160 --> 1:23:48.439 He was. 1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:52.360 He was like big on vine. He does all like 1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:53.080 special effects? 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:58.760 Yea cool really stars straight family gameplay? How good was 1:23:58.800 --> 1:23:59.760 the game gameplay? 1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:00.760 Zero ten? 1:24:01.120 --> 1:24:04.880 Well, I mean you guys killing us on this thing. 1:24:05.080 --> 1:24:05.200 Uh. 1:24:05.840 --> 1:24:07.160 I don't want to let you guys affect me, So 1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:09.280 I'm gonna say there was there's a high level gameplay 1:24:09.600 --> 1:24:12.439 aside from one play in the fourth quarter that you 1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:13.400 guys talked about. 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:17.280 Eight point seven eighty seven. Good score. 1:24:17.400 --> 1:24:20.439 It's good score, shut out Rob, It's right, eighty seven 1:24:20.840 --> 1:24:23.000 when you guys are just make some explanations for your 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:23.840 guys to scoring here. 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:27.240 It's like the name name of the game, suck it, sam. 1:24:27.120 --> 1:24:28.280 F it's a great name. 1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:31.120 Name, it's a great name, pretty good name. Am I 1:24:31.160 --> 1:24:32.920 scoring what the name of it is? Or am I 1:24:32.960 --> 1:24:34.519 scoring the cultural impact? 1:24:34.720 --> 1:24:35.960 So both? 1:24:36.479 --> 1:24:36.639 Right? 1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:39.519 So like some games have an incredible name. 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:42.599 Yeah, and it just lasts Oh yeah, yeah, the same that. 1:24:42.960 --> 1:24:45.960 Let's go seven, seven point three three? 1:24:45.960 --> 1:24:46.920 What is that? What does that tell you? 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:47.040 Up? 1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:47.679 Two folks? 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:48.320 See? 1:24:48.479 --> 1:24:52.360 Yeah, seven five to one? Where does it go in 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:54.200 all the games that we've done. That's a good score. 1:24:54.520 --> 1:24:56.360 It's a good score that puts us. 1:24:58.360 --> 1:25:00.719 Just ahead of the two thousand and two Western Conference 1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:04.200 Finals Game five Lakers versus Kings and right behind the 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:04.960 squish the fish. 1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:07.160 Surprise at what your first one is? 1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:12.680 Two dynasties fighting. 1:25:12.320 --> 1:25:16.960 Each other to the torch the past the torch. 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:19.280 Tony Romo was calling it. He was on fire, Jewels 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:20.400 was convertible and that was. 1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:21.599 With a Chiefs fan. 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:25.880 That's right, Rob rib I guess he's he gave it 1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:26.799 perfect tens. 1:25:27.720 --> 1:25:29.320 He wasn't a glacier though, So. 1:25:29.280 --> 1:25:32.240 Yeah, you kind of missed the game. It's nuts to 1:25:32.280 --> 1:25:33.519 do a list and have twenty eight to three b 1:25:33.640 --> 1:25:35.760 number two on any list, But that's just how good 1:25:35.800 --> 1:25:36.400 that game was. 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:37.799 Could we miss anything? 1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:38.800 No? 1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:42.400 I mean, guys, you know what time it is? You 1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:45.280 know time it is? Coffee ton Yes, Dode Coffee Team 1:25:45.760 --> 1:25:49.800 Ela if we saw this coffee shop, Dodo Coffee co 1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:51.639 website's launching soon. 1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:54.799 We've been roasting our own stuff. 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Shout out 1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:07.120 to Dodo baby, like I think they have they have 1:27:07.160 --> 1:27:08.479 a do they have a store? 1:27:08.920 --> 1:27:10.240 Dodo Coffee dot co. 1:27:10.960 --> 1:27:13.479 A couple of things, A couple of things to uh 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:17.200 to touch upon before we hit the hotline. Here. We 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:20.280 mentioned earlier in the episode, this is a great coaching game. 1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:22.479 A lot of guys on both sides of the ball 1:27:22.479 --> 1:27:24.680 that went on to become head coaches. Let's give him 1:27:24.720 --> 1:27:28.200 their shine here real quick. Raheem Morris, raheem d You 1:27:28.200 --> 1:27:30.960 see the rams. We all he's most famous for being 1:27:30.960 --> 1:27:32.240 a better coach than Bill Belichick. 1:27:32.560 --> 1:27:34.200 We know that he's also a head coach of the 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:36.280 Tampa Bay Bucks for a couple of years. That's right. 1:27:36.360 --> 1:27:38.439 Now, he's the current head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. 1:27:38.560 --> 1:27:42.280 And they drafted Pennix over one. That's right, that was 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:45.320 But they also paid Kirk Cousins. 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:45.840 A lot of money. 1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:48.840 You know, hey, hey, maybe it works. We don't know 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:50.839 when they zig, you zag. 1:27:51.200 --> 1:27:54.840 So we drafted Kirk Cousins after they drafted Robert from 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:58.000 the third and spind all those picks. And but it 1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:03.400 worked out, and eight large boys may not have a 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:05.719 draft first round pick next year with a little Tampa 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:06.120 in action. 1:28:06.600 --> 1:28:09.080 Tampa action, they did it. That's why they did it. 1:28:09.160 --> 1:28:10.280 Yeah, that's what people say. 1:28:10.439 --> 1:28:10.719 Uh. 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:17.040 Kevin O'Connell, former teammate, current head coach of the Minnesota. 1:28:16.600 --> 1:28:19.080 Viking, bet you we get koc in here. I'd I 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.080 like that coach and talk. 1:28:21.280 --> 1:28:23.840 I saw him on a flight once recently, like probably 1:28:23.840 --> 1:28:24.759 the last eight months. 1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:26.960 Say what's up? We said, we were sitting next to 1:28:26.960 --> 1:28:27.320 each other. 1:28:28.479 --> 1:28:29.080 That's hilarious. 1:28:29.080 --> 1:28:29.800 What are the odds of that? 1:28:30.000 --> 1:28:31.880 Yeah, it was, it was may have been at the 1:28:31.920 --> 1:28:32.519 super Bowl. 1:28:32.840 --> 1:28:35.360 Okay, so the odds are a little higher higher. First 1:28:35.360 --> 1:28:36.400 class guys, first class guys. 1:28:36.479 --> 1:28:36.679 Yeah. 1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:39.000 When you start flying between places like New York and 1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:41.400 l A, or like Boston, LA, and you're in first class, 1:28:41.439 --> 1:28:43.360 I bet you sit next to people you recognize quite 1:28:43.360 --> 1:28:43.599 a bit. 1:28:44.720 --> 1:28:46.960 Not really, I try to get that pod. 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:49.880 Pod Mint, shout out Mint. 1:28:50.280 --> 1:28:52.599 So I think I saw LeVar Burton on my those 1:28:52.600 --> 1:28:56.440 the last famous person I saw on a flight reading rainbows. 1:28:59.080 --> 1:29:02.919 More wait, hold on Kevin O'Connell talking about drafting quarterbacks. 1:29:02.920 --> 1:29:04.439 Little j J McCarthy, Action J. 1:29:04.840 --> 1:29:07.799 McCarty, Me and Jack saw Jim Harbor in the parking 1:29:07.800 --> 1:29:08.439 lot of the Roast. 1:29:09.160 --> 1:29:12.160 I saw Jim mid roast, mid joke. I looked at 1:29:12.200 --> 1:29:15.960 him like milk drinker, crazy guy. 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:18.120 And then Kyle Shanahan was here too. 1:29:18.200 --> 1:29:21.599 He was wild, he was he was looking suited and 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:26.240 booted me GQ over g Q. He said, I'm leaving 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:29.120 my formal flat bill at home tonight. I'm letting the 1:29:29.160 --> 1:29:29.719 hair breathe. 1:29:29.760 --> 1:29:30.040 Baby. 1:29:30.240 --> 1:29:33.040 Coach Shanahan, Man, he's you got some swag he does. 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:36.759 Speaking of swag, Daddy's Tamiko Ryans was also in this game. 1:29:36.880 --> 1:29:39.639 He was the DC of the Niners. Now he's doing 1:29:39.680 --> 1:29:41.240 some cool stuff down there and h. 1:29:41.320 --> 1:29:43.400 Town wearing the hell out of a long sleep. 1:29:43.520 --> 1:29:47.840 He is. Man, still can keep It's not too It's 1:29:47.880 --> 1:29:52.040 not skin tight, is it? You can still still definition? 1:29:52.640 --> 1:29:53.920 Yeah, it's good. 1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:54.680 I like that. 1:29:54.720 --> 1:29:56.120 He's kind of play. 1:29:56.120 --> 1:29:57.519 He was three time All I think he was like 1:29:57.560 --> 1:29:58.400 a two time All Pro. 1:29:58.600 --> 1:30:02.000 He was SEC Defensive Player the Year, two time Pro Bowler, 1:30:02.640 --> 1:30:05.920 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, first team All Pro, 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:09.880 and O seven he led the NFL and solo tackles 1:30:09.880 --> 1:30:13.400 and O sick. That's pretty crazy ballin' yeah, balling ball 1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:14.519 so hard. 1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:16.160 There's more and there's more. 1:30:16.280 --> 1:30:19.360 Mike McDaniel and we all know him, the whiz kid 1:30:19.520 --> 1:30:21.000 down there in Miami. 1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:22.599 He was the OC and the Niners this year. 1:30:22.920 --> 1:30:24.360 You think this is when he was in the press 1:30:24.400 --> 1:30:30.080 box just vaping, just I'm sure huge cloud, just vape central. 1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:33.280 No camera in that time in the box, He's just. 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:37.599 Yeah, let's go with the ride. 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:41.840 One thirty four fo Ice, Hey, keep your eyes waight up, 1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:45.639 keep your eyes backside rangers person out. 1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:49.040 Oh my god, I'd like to imagine that's exactly how 1:30:49.040 --> 1:30:51.519 it went down, probably exactly how real vapors. And then 1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:54.599 coaching under him was another guy we mentioned this episode, 1:30:54.600 --> 1:30:58.680 Wes Welker. Wes Wes a famous backwards hat coach, backwards 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:01.880 hat coach, receivers coach that year pretty crazy. 1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:04.960 And then I have to ask Colin Coward about that. Why, 1:31:05.320 --> 1:31:08.160 because Colin Coward hates people at the podium with a 1:31:08.200 --> 1:31:08.920 backwards hat. 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:09.600 I didn't know that. 1:31:09.880 --> 1:31:13.479 Oh, it just went yeah. Colin Coward he talked about it. 1:31:13.600 --> 1:31:17.000 He hates when your quarterback has backwards hat at the podium. 1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:19.880 So I'm gonna ask him what does backwards hat on 1:31:19.960 --> 1:31:20.960 position coach mean? 1:31:21.560 --> 1:31:25.320 Maddy p was another guy in the position that Yeah. 1:31:25.360 --> 1:31:27.439 And then to wrap it all up, this was a 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:29.920 heck of a year for Cooper Cup. He puts a 1:31:29.960 --> 1:31:32.679 bow on it, puts the cherry on top with Super 1:31:32.680 --> 1:31:35.479 Bowl MVP. But we can't forget he was a triple 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:39.479 Crown winner with one hundred and forty five receptions one 1:31:40.240 --> 1:31:44.599 nine forty seven yards, sixteen touchdowns. And then to put 1:31:44.640 --> 1:31:47.160 that in context, the last man to win a triple 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:49.960 crown Steve Smith in the in the NFL was Steve 1:31:49.960 --> 1:31:53.360 Smith senior before that, Sterling Sharp before that, Jerry writes, 1:31:53.640 --> 1:31:56.320 before that, Glance all Worth. Then the list goes on 1:31:56.360 --> 1:31:59.839 and on. But in the MLB twenty twelve, Miguel Cabrera 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:02.599 like yell with Detroit and then. 1:32:02.640 --> 1:32:04.479 Did Barry hit that thing a few times? 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:06.280 Barry bones triple crown. 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:09.559 Now he's not on the list here, yeas, Before that 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:13.479 it was yeas apparently, which is sixty seven. There's a 1:32:13.520 --> 1:32:15.519 lot of coaches on the c M team. And then 1:32:15.920 --> 1:32:16.719 oh yeah, it's crazy. 1:32:16.760 --> 1:32:20.839 And then the last horse racing triple crown wasn't Justify 1:32:21.479 --> 1:32:22.400 in eighteen. 1:32:22.520 --> 1:32:26.920 Yeah, yeah, so pretty recently crazy. Also American Pharaoh and 1:32:26.960 --> 1:32:30.559 American horse talk. Yeah, I would love to get a 1:32:30.560 --> 1:32:32.040 horse racing I was. 1:32:32.600 --> 1:32:34.479 I never was like a big There's like guys that 1:32:34.560 --> 1:32:37.439 loved the horses on the teams, like Rabel Walker used 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:39.840 to love, like those are horse Terry Bradshaw's a big 1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:41.760 horse guy, like those guys that. 1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:46.479 Use I think that he's racing, Yeah, Raindy Moss Racing. 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:50.160 Yeah, Will Fork had horses. Like, there's a bunch of 1:32:50.240 --> 1:32:53.600 dudes that like loved horse racing. I just like the 1:32:53.640 --> 1:32:54.479 movie Sea Biscuit. 1:32:55.000 --> 1:32:59.040 I'm with you. Shout out Elizabeth Banks from Western Massachusetts. 1:32:59.280 --> 1:33:02.320 Yeah, that was a great movie. See Biscuit with though 1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:06.640 spider Man Toby. That was a great movie. Or the 1:33:06.680 --> 1:33:10.120 short lived HBO series Luck remember that one died. 1:33:10.320 --> 1:33:12.719 Yeah, And on that note, it's the hot line. 1:33:13.400 --> 1:33:14.719 Let's hit the old hot line. 1:33:15.600 --> 1:33:18.800 Remember that number is four two four two nine one 1:33:19.720 --> 1:33:21.240 two two nine to zero. 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:25.920 If you had to pick one hit, it was the 1:33:25.960 --> 1:33:27.599 hardest you'd ever been hit. 1:33:29.040 --> 1:33:30.000 Which hit would that be? 1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:34.200 I personally think it may have been a Camp Chancellor 1:33:34.280 --> 1:33:37.640 hit in the twenty fourteen Super Bowl, But that's just 1:33:37.720 --> 1:33:38.559 me what. 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:45.479 You got hardest hit? You think it's the Cam Chancellor hit. Well, 1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:47.400 that was a very hard hit. But I was expecting 1:33:47.439 --> 1:33:51.320 that hit. I got hit my rookie year when we 1:33:51.320 --> 1:33:55.400 were playing in Denver against Josh McDaniels when he was 1:33:55.400 --> 1:33:57.679 the head coach there and they had those ugly mustard 1:33:57.760 --> 1:34:00.599 uniforms on in Denver where they had like weird it 1:34:00.640 --> 1:34:05.799 was like Mustard yellow and brown and uh, Brian Dawkins 1:34:05.800 --> 1:34:08.440 lit me up. I saw a star for like three weeks, 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:10.880 like I had to teach myself how to catch with 1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:14.920 this thing. And then also Ed Reed lit me up 1:34:15.720 --> 1:34:20.160 on a post route in Baltimore and twelve and then 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:24.960 Ray Lewis hit me twice pretty hard. I've already explained one. 1:34:25.000 --> 1:34:29.040 I had j low booty too, I had reset button. 1:34:29.439 --> 1:34:30.679 What is Jay Loboody again? 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:34.360 Well, I got he needed me so hard on my butt. Yeah, 1:34:34.400 --> 1:34:37.280 I had a hemotoma. They had to drain my butt. 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:39.400 I couldn't sit down for three weeks, like I wouldn't 1:34:39.400 --> 1:34:40.879 have been able to play if we won that playoff 1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:44.000 game because they like my my my butt blew up 1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:45.960 like it was so crazy. 1:34:46.320 --> 1:34:47.800 Man, good question. 1:34:48.200 --> 1:34:52.040 Hey, miss Reydleman. Is that question? What is your favorite 1:34:53.560 --> 1:34:56.479 route sing out that you've ever been? And also what 1:34:56.600 --> 1:34:58.519 is the most prepared who is the most prepared dB 1:34:58.640 --> 1:34:59.360 that you ever want to get? 1:35:00.439 --> 1:35:04.360 Favorite route? The Reader route. We went over it with Coop. 1:35:05.000 --> 1:35:06.840 You got it's a one man like. It's pretty much 1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:10.720 one man show. You win, like you can go It's 1:35:10.720 --> 1:35:13.439 like six twelve. You could take it across or you 1:35:13.479 --> 1:35:16.000 could bring it out to the bow. It's like a 1:35:16.000 --> 1:35:18.000 great man covered drought. We hit it a few times 1:35:18.000 --> 1:35:21.920 in the Super Bowl against the Rams, and then you 1:35:21.960 --> 1:35:24.800 know that's when we first put it in. I love 1:35:24.880 --> 1:35:28.880 that route. And the most prepared dB was always throw Revis. 1:35:29.240 --> 1:35:30.040 He was such. 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:35.520 A always on balance new formation wise, what you guys ran, situationally, 1:35:35.560 --> 1:35:39.920 He knew what concepts were coming, He knew your weaknesses 1:35:40.760 --> 1:35:43.120 like he was he was really he was always very 1:35:43.160 --> 1:35:45.840 prepared mental like on what was going on with the 1:35:45.840 --> 1:35:46.439 game plans. 1:35:47.080 --> 1:35:51.000 How much individuals scouting, like scouting against individuals would you do? 1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:52.639 So if you know you're gonna be matched up against 1:35:52.720 --> 1:35:53.400 like you do a lot. 1:35:53.400 --> 1:35:55.479 I mean there you get It's so easy in NFL 1:35:55.560 --> 1:35:58.479 because then you get all you got guys that do 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:01.080 all the homework and the cut up. So I'll go 1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:03.920 and I said, I want to see every every play 1:36:04.560 --> 1:36:09.840 targeted to Revis or cornerback on third down. 1:36:09.920 --> 1:36:11.360 Give me that of this season. 1:36:11.439 --> 1:36:14.240 I want to see, you know, the last season, and 1:36:14.360 --> 1:36:16.439 you sit and you just watch if he has an 1:36:16.479 --> 1:36:19.200 offhand jam, what he does with his legs. If he 1:36:19.240 --> 1:36:22.240 does the offhand jam, is he does he freeze gate 1:36:22.360 --> 1:36:26.000 with you with certain moves. You know, you're looking at 1:36:26.040 --> 1:36:28.599 all little tendencies of what guys do at the line 1:36:28.640 --> 1:36:30.680 of scrimmage, and then also at the top routes. Does 1:36:30.720 --> 1:36:33.320 he like to undercut? Does he grab? You have to 1:36:33.320 --> 1:36:35.840 be physical with them. You can pick a lot of 1:36:35.840 --> 1:36:38.960 things up. How does this guy handle certain routes? Is 1:36:39.000 --> 1:36:41.840 he is he a game plan guy? So like, is 1:36:41.880 --> 1:36:43.880 he gonna watch my routes from last week? So if 1:36:43.920 --> 1:36:46.160 I marry my routes last week, is he going to 1:36:46.240 --> 1:36:48.080 run that route? And then I can combo it and 1:36:48.200 --> 1:36:51.160 like counter it with a different route. Like those are 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:52.000 the things you watch. 1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:53.960 Is that mostly on like ALL twenty two? Or do 1:36:54.000 --> 1:36:54.960 you have like angles? 1:36:54.960 --> 1:36:57.200 That all you want all twenty two because you get 1:36:57.320 --> 1:37:00.559 you get the wide and you can see techniques the back. 1:37:00.680 --> 1:37:03.880 They have a far back end zone shot, they have 1:37:04.080 --> 1:37:05.839 a close end zone shot for line. 1:37:05.600 --> 1:37:07.679 Play the interior, and then you have. 1:37:08.120 --> 1:37:10.599 The deep end zone shot where you can see everyone 1:37:10.640 --> 1:37:12.840 on the field, so you can see how a guy's 1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:15.960 lining up. You know what technique he is on you? 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:18.479 Is he inside leverage, is the outside leverage? Is his 1:37:18.600 --> 1:37:21.639 head up? That's the stuff you look at. If I 1:37:21.640 --> 1:37:23.600 if I bring my split down, what does he do 1:37:23.680 --> 1:37:25.639 does he get you know, is he is he off 1:37:25.680 --> 1:37:27.600 and outside or is he off head up or is 1:37:27.600 --> 1:37:30.519 he off inside? So a lot of that that's what 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:31.400 you want to look at. 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:33.680 But you'd never really look at like or if there's 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:35.439 an angle that exist sports a lot you can see, 1:37:35.439 --> 1:37:37.160 like hand movement or anything like that. You want the 1:37:37.200 --> 1:37:38.960 wider you want to see how you can see that, 1:37:39.000 --> 1:37:42.400 and you can see and then you'll have like close 1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:46.640 ups too, like the guys behind the scenes that make cutups, 1:37:47.240 --> 1:37:50.720 they'll highlight and they'll give you like this his you. 1:37:50.960 --> 1:37:51.800 They'll have write ups. 1:37:51.800 --> 1:37:53.679 Each scout has to do a right up each player, 1:37:53.720 --> 1:37:55.920 so you get these right ups of each guy. You 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:58.599 know where he went to school, what what his story is. 1:37:59.280 --> 1:38:02.559 You know, they'll give you background, like you know his 1:38:02.760 --> 1:38:06.000 power and his his his strengths are, he's got an offhand, 1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:08.120 jam strong, Atlanta scrimmage. 1:38:08.520 --> 1:38:09.320 He's terrible. 1:38:09.479 --> 1:38:12.160 His weaknesses, he's terrible his side to side movement. You 1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:14.600 have to get him running, you know, so like you 1:38:14.640 --> 1:38:17.320 can you'll see the right up and then they have 1:38:17.400 --> 1:38:19.840 a cut up for the right up and then you 1:38:19.880 --> 1:38:21.680 can go. And sometimes you just want to watch an 1:38:21.720 --> 1:38:25.360 overall game of how he plays just him. How's he 1:38:25.400 --> 1:38:27.240 playing the run game? How does he play when the 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:28.439 balls not throw to him? 1:38:28.720 --> 1:38:29.280 You know what I mean? 1:38:29.320 --> 1:38:31.080 See if you can lull guys asleep and stuff? 1:38:31.520 --> 1:38:37.400 Hey, you like Cooper Cup all time. 1:38:38.320 --> 1:38:42.360 All time in regular season Cooper Cup man triple crowliner 1:38:43.120 --> 1:38:47.760 that season and five catches all time season Cooper Cup 1:38:47.840 --> 1:38:50.280 almost two thousand yards sixteen touchdowns. 1:38:50.640 --> 1:38:53.800 But when it matters most in the player in the 1:38:53.920 --> 1:38:57.719 big games, I'm riding had a great sea. I'm riding 1:38:57.720 --> 1:39:01.040 for my guy. He's as one year. What about what 1:39:01.080 --> 1:39:02.599 about a body of work? Baby? 1:39:02.640 --> 1:39:03.360 My guy's good. 1:39:03.640 --> 1:39:06.880 He's a stud. Oh no, either or just studs. 1:39:07.240 --> 1:39:10.160 We're different players studs. But I got to ride from 1:39:10.160 --> 1:39:10.439 my guy. 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:12.520 Come on, man, gets the rings. 1:39:13.000 --> 1:39:14.920 Hot and ready the signs on a thank you. 1:39:15.760 --> 1:39:23.560 Time, yo. Mis uh cake. Grew up in West Texas. 1:39:23.920 --> 1:39:26.240 I got to watch Wes Welter, Zach Thomas, those boys 1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:29.280 at the Red Raiders. To you see that Wes Welker 1:39:30.680 --> 1:39:35.840 is the piller of the position. What's your what's your 1:39:35.880 --> 1:39:37.719 take on? That dude was a game changers. 1:39:40.080 --> 1:39:44.879 Yeah, Wes had a huge part of the whole slot position. 1:39:45.080 --> 1:39:48.799 But you know, even before him, there was Troy Brown, 1:39:49.240 --> 1:39:51.640 Dion Branch, There's a lot of other guys did it, 1:39:52.120 --> 1:39:54.080 but Wes was a kind of guy that was he's 1:39:54.120 --> 1:39:56.000 like a tweener almost like he was like a running 1:39:56.040 --> 1:39:59.760 back with his quickness and how he moved, you know, 1:39:59.880 --> 1:40:04.600 like he definitely helped create that position. Wes Welker is 1:40:04.640 --> 1:40:08.280 a pivotal for this whole slot movement and for guys 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:11.439 like me that even got an opportunity, you know, guys 1:40:11.439 --> 1:40:15.960 that were stereotypically not ever seen as a pass catcher. 1:40:16.000 --> 1:40:18.599 He'd be more running back ten fifty or thirty years 1:40:18.600 --> 1:40:19.680 ago or you know what I mean. 1:40:19.720 --> 1:40:20.439 Even then he's. 1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:23.679 Probably you know, he helped create that, but it started 1:40:23.720 --> 1:40:28.320 with Troy Brown, you know, Dion Branch, a lot of 1:40:28.320 --> 1:40:29.360 guys him. 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:30.960 In that offense two thousand and seven kind of like 1:40:30.960 --> 1:40:32.439 put it on the map, but it was already there. 1:40:32.880 --> 1:40:33.280 It was there. 1:40:34.120 --> 1:40:36.240 Yeah, it just that was when you paired up. That's 1:40:36.240 --> 1:40:39.240 when you pair a really good slot with you know, 1:40:39.880 --> 1:40:42.559 top three, top two, greatest receiver of all time on 1:40:42.600 --> 1:40:44.679 that side that can just run and so you're opening 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:47.800 up levels. And then they had Dante stellwar through, you know, 1:40:47.920 --> 1:40:50.360 who was also he was a one in a lot 1:40:50.360 --> 1:40:53.160 of places for a long time before that. So and 1:40:53.200 --> 1:40:55.760 he was fast and explosively, had Jabbart like, they had 1:40:55.800 --> 1:40:58.760 so many weapons and so many spots that you had 1:40:58.800 --> 1:41:01.200 to you couldn't just key out on one guy. So 1:41:01.200 --> 1:41:03.479 that's why he had Monster. He was a monster. He 1:41:03.560 --> 1:41:04.479 had Monster years. 1:41:04.280 --> 1:41:08.559 Every year spread him out And so opposition's cool and all, 1:41:08.880 --> 1:41:11.679 but this guy is talking Zach Thomas. Let's talk about 1:41:11.720 --> 1:41:13.880 one of the glass great neck roll guys of all time. 1:41:14.479 --> 1:41:18.760 Five eleven. Yeah, fifth round draft pick, NFL Hall of Famer. Yeah, 1:41:18.760 --> 1:41:21.799 he's a monster. Got out Zach Thomas. 1:41:22.000 --> 1:41:24.200 Yeah, shout out Sack Thomas. So I used to hear 1:41:24.240 --> 1:41:26.120 a lot about him just because they played. He played 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:28.320 in Dolphins a lot, and we used to watch a 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:31.400 lot of install tape of how to run certain routes 1:41:31.439 --> 1:41:35.120 and it'd be welker always on Zach Thomas and always 1:41:35.200 --> 1:41:40.120 you know what I mean, It feels like, but man, 1:41:40.439 --> 1:41:43.040 what a game. Thanks again to Cooper Cup and be 1:41:43.240 --> 1:41:46.160 sure to check out Dodo Coffee Co. 1:41:46.760 --> 1:41:48.400 Dodo Coffee dot Co is the. 1:41:48.360 --> 1:41:52.679 Website Dodocoffee dot Co. 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