Speaker 1: The internet likes to compare us. For some reason, those
Speaker 1: guys were so similar. What do you think these reasons are?
Speaker 2: I think I think it's a beard thing. It's a
Speaker 2: beard it's a beard thing. Maybe our pigment.
Speaker 3: I never thought that once.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, we have the Triple crown winner, the
Speaker 1: stud the Super Bowl champion, super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: talking twenty twenty one NFC championship between the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine ers and his Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 2: It's a great win against the you know, a terrible
Speaker 2: opponent that they've had our number for a few years,
Speaker 2: and this is kind of the turning point of that.
Speaker 2: I remember looking up at the score and be like, gosh,
Speaker 2: I'm so Glass, not twenty eighty three. I remember paying
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so Glass, not twenty to thirty. I want
Speaker 2: to talk with somem What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3: The shirt that you're in?
Speaker 4: What's this show?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: This shirt, this whole thing, Oh, this whole thing. Games
Speaker 1: with Names a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names.
Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman. There, Jack and Kyler and were on
Speaker 1: the mission to find the greatest game of all time.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, we have Cooper Cup talking the monkey
Speaker 1: off the back game. That's right, twenty twenty one NFC
Speaker 1: Championship between the San Francisco forty nine ers and his
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 6: He's a Super Bowl MVP, Triple Crown winner, wide receiver.
Speaker 6: He doesn't need any credential.
Speaker 7: No peace.
Speaker 1: Numbers galore, numbers galore. There's barbecues galore that store, and
Speaker 1: then there's Coop Cup with numbers galore, stat chet stuffer
Speaker 1: and just a student of the game.
Speaker 4: He is, he really is.
Speaker 1: I mean, we get into we dive into that, We
Speaker 1: dive into the San Francisco LA rivalry. We we dive,
Speaker 1: we dive into However, one compares us, why is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, find out, find out. We'll find out.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think?
Speaker 4: I We'll find out. We'll find find out. We'll find out.
Speaker 1: And we also what it's like starting a coffee company entrepreneur, entrepreneur.
Speaker 7: This beans miss is an entrepreneur. Huh, he's a beansman.
Speaker 7: He knows those beans.
Speaker 8: Coffee dot co.
Speaker 1: And we got some content coming afterwards where I mean
Speaker 1: he's got a particular way of making his coffee he's
Speaker 1: a coffee connoisseur.
Speaker 7: We were, we were busy, Tom Brady, he's busy roasting
Speaker 7: some Ethiopian beans.
Speaker 1: No, these were godmul Ands. And then the road to
Speaker 1: his first Super Bowl where he bawled out and had
Speaker 1: an MVP type game and you lost fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and I lost fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: Light work, light work, light work.
Speaker 1: And then we'll wrap it up with hitting the old hotline.
Speaker 4: It'll be fun. Check it out.
Speaker 7: Let's go though.
Speaker 5: January thirtieth, twenty twenty two, SOFI Stadium, Inglewood, California.
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Rams trailed the San Francisco winers seventeen
Speaker 2: to seven heading into the fourth quarter, but.
Speaker 5: With a trip to the Super Bowl on the line,
Speaker 5: do Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup have another come back
Speaker 5: in them?
Speaker 2: This is the twenty twenty one NFC Championship Game.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. Today we have a very
Speaker 1: special guest. We have the Triple Crown winner the stud
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup in
Speaker 1: studio in the nuthouse today. Welcome to the studio, Bro,
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for sure, that's Jack that's and uh,
Speaker 1: why you picked this game, bubs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is a good one. This is
Speaker 7: a good one.
Speaker 2: I know you've gone over some other games. You know
Speaker 2: that year whitworth, that one's covered. I mean this is
Speaker 2: a good one. It's a great win against uh, you know,
Speaker 2: a terrible opponent that you know you just love to.
Speaker 2: You'll be able to pull one up. Oh, let's be fair,
Speaker 2: they've they've had a number for a few years.
Speaker 1: And this is kind of the turning point of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was like that was you know,
Speaker 2: we won the one that was meaningful, the one that
Speaker 2: we needed to win.
Speaker 3: We got it done.
Speaker 4: So so hard to beat a team three times in
Speaker 4: one year, yeah, so hard.
Speaker 3: Have you done it before?
Speaker 1: I think we did it a couple of times, But
Speaker 1: then we also lost a couple of times where we
Speaker 1: smoked the Jets twice and then we were fourteen and two,
Speaker 1: and then in the like we blew them out like
Speaker 1: two weeks before, and then we'd go the first round
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. They can't wait, game fucking Bart Scott
Speaker 1: can't wait. They beat us in Foxborough. That shit sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that was sin we we had them
Speaker 2: last Game of the Year that Yeah, and that was
Speaker 2: we were playing for the division division title, end up
Speaker 2: losing that game in overtime, but winning the division.
Speaker 3: How about weird like conflicted feelings.
Speaker 4: I hate that ship it is.
Speaker 1: It was whenever Like we've had a couple of those
Speaker 1: where we were in Miami and we lose the game
Speaker 1: and you're pissed off, but they they passed out the
Speaker 1: hat scause else like.
Speaker 2: Throw the hat in your bag. Yeah, want to see
Speaker 2: this thing right now. That's tough. It's a tough feeling.
Speaker 1: It's a great feeling to have, though, if you're in
Speaker 1: that situation, coop, because a lot of people have never
Speaker 1: been in that even situation like ever.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean you got you appreciate that's just
Speaker 2: in that moment you just went. You just played it
Speaker 2: all on the line to go win a game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially a division opponent exactly. It's the worst overtime heading
Speaker 2: into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And you guys have had you guys had that thing
Speaker 1: where like, hey, Kyle Shanahan owned us for a while.
Speaker 1: It's a whole McVeigh shanahan thing. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: so we talk about it nauseum. Yes, did I use
Speaker 1: that word, right, that's really good. I'm working on the source.
Speaker 1: How's off season been going.
Speaker 3: It's been really good. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It is probably my first off season having a full
Speaker 2: having a full off season and being healthy out the
Speaker 2: gate where I can go and just training how I
Speaker 2: want to really since you know, the end of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty going into twenty one was the last time I
Speaker 2: had a full off season, and so having that's been
Speaker 2: been great. Yeah yeah, I mean you just can't. You
Speaker 2: can't put enough value on just that time and the
Speaker 2: preparation it takes to get your body right to go
Speaker 2: make this push.
Speaker 1: Well, people to put in context, what people don't realize
Speaker 1: is when you're banged up in an off season, you're
Speaker 1: not getting better. You're trying to get to where you
Speaker 1: were at. And the league is so smart that you
Speaker 1: have to reinvent yourself some my every off season because
Speaker 1: there's film of how you've played the year before. So
Speaker 1: it really takes a hamper in like your off season games. Yes,
Speaker 1: when you're hurt, because you're trying to get this, you're
Speaker 1: trying to get to zero, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you know you're not putting anything on top.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I've spent so I've spent the last
Speaker 2: four years training with the same group at the same
Speaker 2: trainer who actually this off season was hired by Atlanta.
Speaker 2: So thanks to Rahiem for taking my trainer who can
Speaker 2: no longer program for me. He's playing the he's playing
Speaker 2: level five oh one ball over there in Atlanta. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean draft analysts. I would say someone different, but
Speaker 2: we can move past that. We were to talk about
Speaker 2: that right now.
Speaker 4: But they took they took him over Bill, Yeah, they did.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: But what I was touching on was the off season again,
Speaker 2: off again, all these rabbit trails off season I've been
Speaker 2: from with these gusts for four years. When you get
Speaker 2: to the end of the season, you go back and
Speaker 2: you like you hit your baseline that first week, right,
Speaker 2: and it's like you don't realize how much your body
Speaker 2: breaks down the course of a season where that off
Speaker 2: season you start so far are from where you went
Speaker 2: into the season because there's just no way, like you
Speaker 2: try to maintain things as you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dang near impossible.
Speaker 2: You play those these long seasons and your body is
Speaker 2: so broken down, there's so much just to build up,
Speaker 2: Like you said, just to get back to where you
Speaker 2: were physically, and then all the armory you got put
Speaker 2: on to prepare yourself, all the conditioning, the things you
Speaker 2: got to do to put you know, create some change
Speaker 2: in your body to be able to take the adaptation
Speaker 2: from this offseason going into OTAs and say okay, now
Speaker 2: we're we're gonna you know, grind through OTA's. Then you
Speaker 2: get one month to basically gear up for training camp
Speaker 2: in a seventeen game season, yeah, plus playoffs and so
Speaker 2: it is a it's a big deal. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I feel I feel really good. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Now, what are some of the point of emphasis you
Speaker 1: have going in this offseason to your game? Now that
Speaker 1: you're healthy, you can self scout, you could check out
Speaker 1: what you need to work on. What's some of the
Speaker 1: things that you are trying to get better at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think the same mantra
Speaker 2: into every every year. It's a bigger, faster, stronger. I
Speaker 2: think the mobility side of things has been a huge piece,
Speaker 2: just being like coming off of the ankle surgery a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Things that come out of that,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you get hurt, especially something as
Speaker 2: low to the ground as an ankle. How it affects
Speaker 2: things up the chain and you start compensating. And once
Speaker 2: your body starts compensating, things start tightening, things start loosening.
Speaker 2: There's just a you know, you want to get your
Speaker 2: body back into balance and moving the way it's supposed
Speaker 2: to because like professional athletes, uh, we are professional at
Speaker 2: compensating and working through injury.
Speaker 3: When you do that, your bodies that's.
Speaker 2: Not optimum, right, vulnerable exactly, And so pulling back and
Speaker 2: finding what that optim is again, that's been the big focus,
Speaker 2: just in terms of how my body, how I want
Speaker 2: my body to work. And then you know, in terms
Speaker 2: of you know, skill wise, you're moving through into like
Speaker 2: you know, the technical side of the game. There's so
Speaker 2: much that you want to You watch film and think
Speaker 2: every you look back and you're like, oh man, there's
Speaker 2: just so much you can do better, so many things,
Speaker 2: so many details that you can press yourself on and like,
Speaker 2: you know what what kind of tools can add to
Speaker 2: your tool out as counters to what worked, Like what worked?
Speaker 2: How are people gonna stop it? How do I counter that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're in the point of your career where
Speaker 1: you could watch film and you can go practice off
Speaker 1: a specific look of how it may not have went
Speaker 1: your way, and you could put that and play that
Speaker 1: game in your mind, and you're probably at the point
Speaker 1: where you're running routes.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah exactly. I mean you get better playing
Speaker 2: football playing football.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: And I think there's there's a few different steps that
Speaker 2: just like the visualization side of things, of where you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I know, my wife knows, I'm laying
Speaker 2: in bed, and suddenly I'll just be like wow, flinch out.
Speaker 2: I look like, hu, what were you doing there? What
Speaker 2: was happening? Yeah, I got to take I was running
Speaker 2: this round, the safety was driving down, you know, like
Speaker 2: it's like it's real. It's like you get to this
Speaker 2: point where you're visualizing things to the point where your
Speaker 2: body is like reacting to it, and you're going they
Speaker 2: take the next step, and now we're OK, we're running
Speaker 2: routes on air, and we don't run routes on air
Speaker 2: just to run routes on air, Like there's an intent
Speaker 2: find what you're doing. You're you're seeing, Hey, this is
Speaker 2: how this DB's playing us. Let's rest run this route.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking to Matthew, Hey is three carry it's
Speaker 2: a tight carry out side, Like how we want to
Speaker 2: run this route on this one? What angles are we
Speaker 2: coming out at? So now you're running utes on there
Speaker 2: and you're visualizing these things. So now when it does
Speaker 2: come time that you're competing, you've seen that, you've seen it,
Speaker 2: you visualize that, you've felt all those steps that you're
Speaker 2: gonna take. You've seen how he's gonna play and react
Speaker 2: to each movie you're gonna do. At that point, once
Speaker 2: you've played the game, it's like, man, I've taken this
Speaker 2: rep over and over and over again.
Speaker 4: Although we used to call that DejaVu.
Speaker 1: You practice so much once you're doing the game, it's
Speaker 1: like deja voo's. That's a great feeling too. It is,
Speaker 1: you know what, People don't realize the amount of reps
Speaker 1: you put into a play for it to work, because
Speaker 1: there's like twenty different looks you can have, and when
Speaker 1: you practice it and you rep it over over and
Speaker 1: over with an intent, like Cooper said, and you use
Speaker 1: those reps once you get to game day, it's in
Speaker 1: your SubCom conscience. So once you can react faster and
Speaker 1: you get to use your athleticism more, because once you
Speaker 1: know what's coming, then that's when techniques and your superpowers
Speaker 1: get to come out.
Speaker 2: Exactly when your when your mind's on, your body's off
Speaker 2: all the time, right when you can get to the
Speaker 2: point where your mind's seeing it so much that that's
Speaker 2: now subconscious. Sean McVay calls it unconscious competence. When competent unconscious.
Speaker 2: I bet you he's got some sayings. What other sayns
Speaker 2: does he have? He's got.
Speaker 7: All round up.
Speaker 2: You gotta let him come, natch. I can't just start
Speaker 2: pulling him out of thing. Keep it in.
Speaker 1: We had this rep right here, Keep that in your
Speaker 1: subconscious if something comes along. In this next part of
Speaker 1: the interview, pop flag It, Flag It Cooper, did.
Speaker 8: You say that you like would wake up like dreaming
Speaker 8: about reps?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, No. This isn't just about.
Speaker 2: This is like a full on like I'm awake, laying
Speaker 2: in bed, and I'm just visual it's it's playing so
Speaker 2: clearly in my head what's happening that my body is
Speaker 2: reacting to what's happening in those moments, and it's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's become it's honestly become a problem to the
Speaker 2: point where it's like, gosh, if if we're like my
Speaker 2: wife's like laying on me and I'm daydreamers like that,
Speaker 2: like she can get like like boom, I move actually
Speaker 2: like her head's popping up off my shoulder.
Speaker 7: It's a it's a problem.
Speaker 2: So we've had to we've had to figure out how
Speaker 2: to like, you know, balance those things a little bit
Speaker 2: so that.
Speaker 3: We're not hurting each other.
Speaker 4: Hand easy.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's pretty plugged iny. Have you ever been
Speaker 8: that plugged in? You're dreaming about it, you're thinking about
Speaker 8: it when you're lying down.
Speaker 4: Well, I never had a wife, so.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you that, but I mean you you
Speaker 1: definitely when you're walking down the hallways you're working releases,
Speaker 1: you know, you see one of your teammates in the hallway.
Speaker 1: You know, you're passing by a fucking guy. You're using
Speaker 1: hands and it's always, I mean, you're on all day long.
Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize. You know, you don't become
Speaker 1: the Triple Crown winner, a fucking Super Bowl MVP and
Speaker 1: have the numbers that this guy had without doing ship
Speaker 1: like that. That's like some Jerry Rice ship like on God,
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Who you're throwing with right now, you throwing anyone, matt Matthew,
Speaker 4: any any any Jimmy goo op, Yeah, you throw a
Speaker 4: jity go Jimmy a little bit. How's Jimmy been doing.
Speaker 7: He's been good.
Speaker 1: Is that awkward now that he's with you guys.
Speaker 7: No, we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't touch on it too much, you know, we
Speaker 2: just let him be, uh just kind of let it
Speaker 2: be what it ismate. Yes, No, Yes, he's he's been
Speaker 2: great and it's been really fun throwing with him. He's uh,
Speaker 2: you know, grabbing the offense. Like there's so much new terminology,
Speaker 2: Like as close as Shanahan and McVeagh are with some
Speaker 2: of the offenses the same ship, which is it's a
Speaker 2: lot of the same stuff, but terminology is completely different. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so the details all that stuff. He's just got a
Speaker 2: lot going through his head right now.
Speaker 7: But he used to go.
Speaker 3: He was out there, you know, running the offense the
Speaker 3: other day and doing good.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Now I swear was I we used to throw back
Speaker 1: when you threw with golf, Yes, and we threw the
Speaker 1: was I there the first day you were with Matthew.
Speaker 2: Or I wasn't there? No, when you were with Matthew. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't there with you for that one.
Speaker 4: I could have sworn you were there.
Speaker 1: What was that like though, that whole situation when you
Speaker 1: went like do you have any Matthew stories?
Speaker 7: Any Matthew stories?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he came in, Like how was that? Because
Speaker 1: when you when you you had a starting quarterback, you
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it's gone. Yeah, you probably have relationships the National
Speaker 1: Football League players and coaches leave every year, but it's
Speaker 1: it's hard because it is hard.
Speaker 2: I think coming in that first so that first OTAs,
Speaker 2: coming off of going into the twenty twenty one season,
Speaker 2: OTA's got pushed back or come off COVID stuff. OK's.
Speaker 2: I don't think we show up until May. Matthew had
Speaker 2: just come off thumb surgery, I believe when he had
Speaker 2: gotten traded to US. So first week of OTA's we
Speaker 2: show up. He's at this point only thrown like the
Speaker 2: squishy nerfball, like a you know, tiny kids, squishy nerf
Speaker 2: ball is like all he's done. And that first day
Speaker 2: of OTAs, so I was like, all right, here we
Speaker 2: got's like, let's get some routes. And I think it
Speaker 2: was kind of everyone. I think it was kind of like, well,
Speaker 2: he's not like technically he's not ready for that yet,
Speaker 2: like we're supposed to kind of we got wait. But
Speaker 2: you know, Matthew was like competitive, competitive, new team coach
Speaker 2: is saying he has to go throw routes. He's like,
Speaker 2: all right, let's go throw routes. And he can have thrown.
Speaker 2: I mean we go through a full session with everyone.
Speaker 2: You know, he throws whatever, seventy five balls and I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna one touch the ground, Like
Speaker 2: it's just in you're just everything we just called. And
Speaker 2: that's like when we when it started, and we just
Speaker 2: call him long handoffs. Now when he gets when he
Speaker 2: gets going, it's like, you know, you're throwing twenty five
Speaker 2: yard deep outs to the field, and well that's just
Speaker 2: a long.
Speaker 1: Handoff now, which people think, like, oh, pro quarterback, pro
Speaker 1: receiver routes on air should always be one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: We've been over at that going west with some quarterbacks
Speaker 1: where you're twenty eight for thirty seven, like what are
Speaker 1: we doing, bubbs. But I remember I threw with Matthew
Speaker 1: that day one of those days, and we we hadn't
Speaker 1: even met each other. I think he just got off
Speaker 1: the plane. I think we went like forty five or
Speaker 1: forty five, and he could judge. He could judge you
Speaker 1: in the air and because that's that's that's where you
Speaker 1: can miss a guy.
Speaker 4: He's on a deep ball. Yep, he's just unbelieved.
Speaker 2: But this is the thing with him is I think
Speaker 2: his like one of the best arm talents. I mean
Speaker 2: there's just yeah, there's very few throw the ball. I
Speaker 2: would dare say there's no one throws the ball the
Speaker 2: way Matthew does. And I think what separates him obviously,
Speaker 2: you know the arm angles and know all different stuff
Speaker 2: and no looks being able to throw on any platform whatever.
Speaker 7: But he can.
Speaker 2: Truly, he's he's making his decision as the balls out
Speaker 2: of his hand like he hasn't. He's making adjustments until
Speaker 2: the balls over there like the ball like he's he's
Speaker 2: dialed into it where he knows all that stuff right,
Speaker 2: all every point of his you know, throwing motion. That
Speaker 2: balls he adjustments right till it think comes off his
Speaker 2: point of fingers.
Speaker 4: So that's his superpower.
Speaker 2: I think that's just well, I mean he's got a lot, yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot that he's got going for him obviously, like
Speaker 2: the ability to process is phenomenal, and not just pre
Speaker 2: snap process, but being able to post snap, know what's happening, move.
Speaker 7: Make throws.
Speaker 2: I think that's that is why he's able to do
Speaker 2: what he's done, is because of his ability. He's not
Speaker 2: an athlete, as much as he wants to tell you
Speaker 2: that he was an athlete, He's not an athlete. But
Speaker 2: he knows how to move in that pocket so well
Speaker 2: and be able to buy, you know, a split second
Speaker 2: of time here or there, and he's he sits in
Speaker 2: there and will take a shot, but he's gonna get
Speaker 2: that ball exactly where wants to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's tough.
Speaker 7: He's tough.
Speaker 4: He's tough. You remember what we throw together?
Speaker 8: Do?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 4: What what year were you in there?
Speaker 7: That was?
Speaker 2: I believe that was going into nineteen, maybe nineteen or twenty.
Speaker 2: I was old, Yeah, you're just really gotten into yoga.
Speaker 4: Well, I tell you about yoga.
Speaker 7: We talked a lot about yoga. You do yoga.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I do yoga.
Speaker 4: Now, Jesus didn't didn't touch the right spot.
Speaker 8: I guess old enough.
Speaker 4: Well, no, yeah, what else are we talking about?
Speaker 7: No? I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: We talked about yoga a lot, a lot. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of yoga, but we did we did touch on
Speaker 2: some stuff.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that we talked about
Speaker 2: was and I there's there's a time for this. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's more for like a certain converseiver that
Speaker 2: can do it. But you do a lot of the
Speaker 2: almost jump stop routes, right Like, we talked a lot
Speaker 2: about how you get up to ten and you guys
Speaker 2: would run stuffhere. You'd run the like basic ten yard
Speaker 2: in or like the ten yard out, and then you
Speaker 2: have the ten yard basic to the corner, right. And
Speaker 2: you talked a lot about me like change your tempo
Speaker 2: at the top of routes. We'll do that stuff. And
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff you're doing with your feet square,
Speaker 2: which for me is a new thing where I get
Speaker 2: to rocks. And I never wanted to be like my feet.
Speaker 2: I didn't want my feet on a surfboard, right like.
Speaker 2: I wanted to always be staggered in some capacity, and.
Speaker 1: I was always different. I ran an orthodox that was
Speaker 1: because of Wes West. You say that where you get
Speaker 1: on their toes, you just and you you just explode
Speaker 1: to whatever they don't do. So you're reacting. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean by then, because reaction you create separation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and really to me, so like I'll go a certain
Speaker 1: body types.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Body type?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly because it is because I think there's it
Speaker 2: lends itself not that sense you're you're small in the
Speaker 2: NFL or in the NFL, you're a smaller receiver, right,
Speaker 2: So like that body like those guys that are you know,
Speaker 2: your superparer was quicker. You're quicker than whoever's going to
Speaker 2: be guarding you. Getting to the point where you can
Speaker 2: have both feet in the ground and have power off
Speaker 2: both feet. At the last scrimmage, I use to come
Speaker 2: to balance at lease all the time, where I bring
Speaker 2: both feet booms immediately right to come to balance. So
Speaker 2: now it's just like playing basketball, right, and I can
Speaker 2: go either way. I want to react off of as
Speaker 2: soon as I saw make that son of like bank
Speaker 2: both your together. Deb's gonna react and now I got
Speaker 2: both feet to be go go two way go. You're
Speaker 2: doing the same thing, except you're doing it at the
Speaker 2: top of the route, right, But there's an emphasis now
Speaker 2: on the fact that you are now in the sequence
Speaker 2: of the route. Your your quarterback is now hitched, and
Speaker 2: you've got to make that decision now and go because
Speaker 2: that next hitch the balls out, you know. So there's
Speaker 2: like what happens early, I can now adjust through my route,
Speaker 2: Like okay, I took too much time with the last scrimmage.
Speaker 3: You got to speed up here. You're making that decision
Speaker 3: at the top of the route.
Speaker 2: There's that you've got to be right and get You
Speaker 2: and Wes obviously we're the best at doing that.
Speaker 3: Made a living on it.
Speaker 7: You don't.
Speaker 1: But it also it would change that'd only be a
Speaker 1: man covered drove.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Tom was always good at reading us and the
Speaker 1: countless steps or reps that we had an off season.
Speaker 1: He knew which way we were going to go, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just through the technique of what
Speaker 1: the guy's given me. So like that's that's that chemistry
Speaker 1: that I'm sure you have to have you and Matthew
Speaker 1: wrong where you guys are finishing each other's sentences.
Speaker 7: And it takes time.
Speaker 4: It takes time.
Speaker 2: When you guys would do routes on air, right, how
Speaker 2: would you what would the routes on air session look
Speaker 2: like for you guys? Would you guys just do the
Speaker 2: route tree or was it more in takeause I know,
Speaker 2: like you know, No, Peyton was more like we're doing
Speaker 2: three routes today.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Tom was a two minute drill you could go when
Speaker 1: I was when I'd come out here to LA, he
Speaker 1: would work me to death, right and he would be like,
Speaker 1: all right, sub personnel, you're that so sub personnel zer
Speaker 1: out feeing ride one thirty four fo ice, I had
Speaker 1: a twenty hour bow all right, you're the zeneo would rangers, Rangers,
Speaker 1: Rangers two flood slot. You know, we go all the
Speaker 1: way down the field and we would be in the
Speaker 1: red area and we'd do red area stuff and then
Speaker 1: I'd score and I'd be dying because it'd be like
Speaker 1: eight straight routes.
Speaker 4: He wanted, he wanted to work. He wanted to see you.
Speaker 1: I was tired, and he wanted to see me think
Speaker 1: when I was tired, and so then i'd be I'd
Speaker 1: be dying and I'd be like all right, off sides,
Speaker 1: off side. He made me come back and do more
Speaker 1: shit like he was like a full coach out there.
Speaker 1: But it made you think while you were tired and
Speaker 1: you were processing, and then sometimes you know if I
Speaker 1: was in the slot, he'd be like, well, we safety
Speaker 1: in his middle of his drop. You wanted to see
Speaker 1: if I break. Like he was constantly making cques and
Speaker 1: doing a dynamic session. So that's I love that.
Speaker 2: I've never done one like that before outside of like, uh,
Speaker 2: we've done that before for strictly conditioning. Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 2: go eight play drive here as fast as we can, right,
Speaker 2: And usually that's just like, hey, Matthew, we're gonna I
Speaker 2: missed my conditioning today. We're gonna do it like at
Speaker 2: the end of the routes, let's get like some quick
Speaker 2: ones as fast as we can. Matthew's more of a
Speaker 2: route for you guy, like he wants to get all
Speaker 2: of his throws in. Every once in a while he
Speaker 2: lets me choose some of the stuff and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I want because I really like going like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: gonna run We're gonna run a corner route today, but
Speaker 2: I wanted against every look, we're gonna get right under
Speaker 2: cutting over the top, Yeah, ended exactly. I want cover four,
Speaker 2: cover three, cover two, man one, help lurk. I want
Speaker 2: to know you know, hey, he's playing like, yeah, it's man.
Speaker 2: You didn't win at the top, he's squeezing you. It's
Speaker 2: gonna come flat, like all those things. So now then
Speaker 2: where it's like we can dial in every look that
Speaker 2: we want and know for this route is not it
Speaker 2: can look so many different ways, and we've talked through
Speaker 2: all those things. So that that was how I really
Speaker 2: liked doing routes because there's some tip behind it.
Speaker 4: We would do those.
Speaker 1: So that was more of like in the off season
Speaker 1: where he was trying to get throws and he was
Speaker 1: conditioning his arm and he was trying to run me
Speaker 1: and I was young, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: would go post practice and do a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1: So like we'd work safe routes, you know, back shoulder
Speaker 1: throws because you know he back shoulder throws take such
Speaker 1: a trust throw, but you still need to be zipping
Speaker 1: at ten yards and you can't like you can't dictate it,
Speaker 1: you can't show it, you know, And so we'd work
Speaker 1: those a lot. And then we'd also work the flag routes,
Speaker 1: bow routes where you want to lean on the guy
Speaker 1: he's undercutting, throw you up field. Like that's we did
Speaker 1: a lot of that specialized stuff too. Everything was with Tom,
Speaker 1: That's that was what the greats do. You guys are
Speaker 1: clearly on a great path, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's why you guys are great is because you guys
Speaker 1: practice with a purpose. It's not just going after to
Speaker 1: work hard. No, you can't. You can't prove just going
Speaker 1: out and working hard and just you know what I mean. Yes,
Speaker 1: you got to find out what you need to work
Speaker 1: and work hard at that and that's how you improved.
Speaker 7: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 6: So we designed, we made the show for this type
Speaker 6: of conversation. So just keep having it. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I want to talk with someone. What do you want
Speaker 6: to talk about?
Speaker 7: The shirt that you're in?
Speaker 4: What's this sho oh this shirt?
Speaker 1: This whole thing? Oh, this whole thing? What is this thing?
Speaker 2: That's an old one, it's very old.
Speaker 4: Greatest show on turf here that.
Speaker 6: We're listening to it is it's a super Bowl thirty
Speaker 6: six shirt Patriots.
Speaker 2: It just felt like a little bit of a like
Speaker 2: you didn't want to go all the way and we're
Speaker 2: the one that I know you wanted to wear, but
Speaker 2: the producers were like, hey, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: should wear that one.
Speaker 1: No, you want to know it was the only shirt
Speaker 1: I had to have. Patriots and Rams so forty seven brand.
Speaker 1: They've been sending us stuff and shout out and they
Speaker 1: sent this one over and I was like, what am ina.
Speaker 4: Wear for Coop?
Speaker 1: You know, he's probably gonna be a little swag dad.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have some sweet sweet kicks on, some like
Speaker 1: little surfer hoodie thing going with this beard all time.
Speaker 1: How do I how do I make it like kosher
Speaker 1: between us?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: And so I picked this out nice?
Speaker 7: You know what.
Speaker 2: I know you've got another shirt?
Speaker 7: Well, I have the super Bowl victory shirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that one. Will you think of you
Speaker 1: after the game? But I don't have like that's the
Speaker 1: one somewhere here. Oh yeah, okay, it's just it's very deep.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think it's other by other two.
Speaker 7: Yeah, got them. That's good.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: The Internet likes to compare us for reason those guys
Speaker 1: were so similar. Why are we still similar even though
Speaker 1: you're six one, six, two, five ten? What do you
Speaker 1: think these reasons are?
Speaker 3: Couldn't for the life of.
Speaker 1: A little deep dive of how our round and completely.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a beard thing. It's beard
Speaker 1: it's a beard thing. Maybe our pigment. I never thought
Speaker 1: that once our pigment. Every white guy is the same
Speaker 1: fucking receiver.
Speaker 7: You know what.
Speaker 3: You know what it is though, So yeah, no, that
Speaker 3: is what it is. That's what it is.
Speaker 7: He's got longs but I never had the long speed
Speaker 7: like that. I don't have the I don't have.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was compared, So who are you compared
Speaker 2: to coming into the league, this guy, Wes Welker. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I was Jordy Nelson?
Speaker 7: You were? You were?
Speaker 4: I played against JORDI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're better in the slot though, I'm about
Speaker 1: he was. We couldn't be more different, Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: Jeordie's game was outside vertical. Yeah that's not my game. No,
Speaker 1: but you can still run vertical routes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that wasn't like, that's not how I've made
Speaker 2: my That's not what's made my game. But now I've
Speaker 2: seen a full circle now because guess who any receiver is,
Speaker 2: Like any white receiver becomes compared to me. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like a full circle thing now of like there's
Speaker 2: there's the exactly this is It's okay. At some point,
Speaker 2: at some point, all the draft people will get they'll
Speaker 2: get some creativity and it'll actually start like seeing the
Speaker 2: game and it'll be like.
Speaker 7: I gotta watch the game with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, coach coach coop, coach Coop got the you
Speaker 1: got the analyst, bro or well yeah, if that that's
Speaker 1: the word analysts, it is analysis analysis.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 1: What's what's up with this? How is Pooka is? He's
Speaker 1: been a cool addition?
Speaker 3: He has been. He has been pretty sweet, pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Obviously great story coming from a fifth throne pick doing
Speaker 2: what he did. I don't know how people didn't see whatever, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you see someone play ball and you just kind of
Speaker 2: know someone can play ball. Kyudo stuffs though for forgetting him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's been he's been awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a sponge. He wants to know, he
Speaker 2: wants to talk football, he wants to know the game.
Speaker 2: He's got really pretty good IQ. Like we came from
Speaker 2: the kind of the same coaching tree where his his
Speaker 2: coach at U dub when he was there was my
Speaker 2: receiver coach at Eastern Washington. Oh yeah, so we kind
Speaker 2: of had the same thing. I've actually been in the
Speaker 2: same coaching tree since high school. So my my high
Speaker 2: school receiver coach was really best friends with my college
Speaker 2: receiver coach who coached my next receiver coach and coach
Speaker 2: Yarbs going with now coach Junior Adams, who was my
Speaker 2: coach in college. Geez, So I've been doing the same
Speaker 2: I've been. I've had the same tree for for well
Speaker 2: since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: Did that Can that consistency help your game?
Speaker 7: I think there I think it did.
Speaker 2: But it also it did help me because there's that
Speaker 2: there's a lot of similar thinking. But then the other
Speaker 2: side is I'm like, I have to go find something new,
Speaker 2: Like it forced me to go out and find tools
Speaker 2: and talk to people and find other drills, find other
Speaker 2: stuff that I want to incorporated my game because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I know, I'm getting the same stuff from Yards that
Speaker 2: I got from coach Adams, that I got from coach Edwards.
Speaker 2: I've gotten from coach.
Speaker 4: To another perspective exactly.
Speaker 2: I wanted to have another projectives, receivers and art form.
Speaker 2: No one doesn't you do it different than it goes
Speaker 2: back to the same conversation. It's like, you know, there's
Speaker 2: there's Picasso and other artistise mil don Tello Raphael there
Speaker 2: is so like, uh, there's all these different ways to
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, right, And so I I don't want
Speaker 2: to get stuck just knowing one way. I want to
Speaker 2: have some other stuff I can do and force me
Speaker 2: to kind of go and learn from people. I remember
Speaker 2: before the twenty my second year, before the twenty eighteen season,
Speaker 2: It's it's Friday before we report on Tuesday for training camp,
Speaker 2: and I'm with Curse Conway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's that the receiver? Yeah, from with Team Bears
Speaker 1: s Bears. So I I want what year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at the point I'm with Conway and
Speaker 2: where we show up on I show up on Friday,
Speaker 2: Like we're easy to take me through some girls I
Speaker 2: asks want to get, you know, perspective. I want to
Speaker 2: see someone else take me to through stuff. A lot
Speaker 2: of times I go with someone and I might spend
Speaker 2: a few days working out with someone and be like
Speaker 2: I grabbed one thing that I want to like take
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 7: Right. Sometimes there's nothing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes like man, there's just a treasure trove of stuff
Speaker 2: that I want to use here. Yeah, there with Curse
Speaker 2: Conway and we ran a curl route for an hour straight,
Speaker 2: an hour shift a curl route. Three days before camp.
Speaker 2: My toes were black. I pulled my cleats off, toes bloodied.
Speaker 2: Gone every year yeah gone, you know, so you go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I want to go here for someone. I want
Speaker 2: to hear some something different.
Speaker 4: And what was his technique?
Speaker 1: How was it different because he attacked the leverage guy
Speaker 1: or was he just goes straight up in the back?
Speaker 2: We did attack, We did more attack the leverage stuff
Speaker 2: in ters, like the stems and things like that. But
Speaker 2: I don't even remember if it was from him that
Speaker 2: I like pull this, but it was kind of the
Speaker 2: beginning of this idea of like, as a receiver, I
Speaker 2: never want to think of myself as as slowing down.
Speaker 3: I want to decelerate right.
Speaker 2: I want to always be thinking I'm accelerating, So even
Speaker 2: when I get to the top of a route, I
Speaker 2: want to accelerate down into the ground right, Like what's
Speaker 2: the what one of the best stoppers in the world
Speaker 2: javelin right? Javelin comes down stops right. So I want
Speaker 2: to be like a javel where I'm running and I
Speaker 2: want that angle. I want to accelerate down at forty
Speaker 2: five and when I'm accelerat eating point foot down.
Speaker 4: You know what Newton says energy potential.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 2: He also says every force is an equal opposite reaction. Right,
Speaker 2: So if I accelerate down into the ground, right, the
Speaker 2: ground is gonna stop me, push back against me.
Speaker 7: Stop somewhere.
Speaker 2: And now, as a dB, you see me accelerating from
Speaker 2: accelerating down towards the ground, and you're backing up, right,
Speaker 2: but I'm stopping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have to have your technique and right,
Speaker 1: and you're not all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh there's so much I was saying, like they're running
Speaker 2: curls for an hour, get my feet bloodied. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I probably didn't grab a whole lot of stuff from it,
Speaker 2: but it was like the beginning of this thought, like, man,
Speaker 2: how do I want to stop? How do I want
Speaker 2: to learn how to like cue myself to how we're
Speaker 2: run routes to the top. And it's developed and grown
Speaker 2: into this place where now I've got like these cues
Speaker 2: of how I want that stuff to look.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's a.
Speaker 2: One hour session five years ago that's developed into kind
Speaker 2: of a basis of how I do my stuff.
Speaker 7: Now, you got to give a little shine of Curtis
Speaker 7: Conway here first, uh seventh overall pick him in ninety
Speaker 7: three draft.
Speaker 4: Jesus out a USC. Yeah us So the Bears played.
Speaker 7: From ninety three to four. Finished his career with the Niners.
Speaker 7: El Camino junior college.
Speaker 4: Guy before USC, Oh Camino. Where's that Torrents? Oh, Torrents
Speaker 4: right out the road? Shout out to coach Curtis Conway.
Speaker 1: What other guys you look up to when you were younger?
Speaker 1: Running routes?
Speaker 3: When I was younger, so I played running back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were looking at running back.
Speaker 1: I was running backs. So backs, Reggie, Reggie Bush. We
Speaker 1: had him, We had him on here.
Speaker 4: We talked about the five oh five game stayed in
Speaker 4: five yards against fres State.
Speaker 7: Remember that where he cut back against the whole team,
Speaker 7: We pulled the ball back. Yeah. Yeah, he's a monster. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What other receivers in the league right now?
Speaker 7: You are? You?
Speaker 1: Do you study any of the guys because I used
Speaker 1: to study guys all the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I used to be like, why the fun is
Speaker 1: he catching one hundred and twenty balls? I'd look at
Speaker 1: everything every catch he had, I said, what is he doing?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 3: I loved watching keenan Allen release game.
Speaker 2: Hean Allen like the last few years, especially because he
Speaker 2: has some injury stuff come up. Right, isn't like he's
Speaker 2: never been a burner a burner.
Speaker 3: Right, he's later in like later in.
Speaker 2: His career, but you down still playing at a very
Speaker 2: high level. And I want to know, like, how is
Speaker 2: he creating separation? And I watched our watching the tape
Speaker 2: and guess what they never tell Keenan Allen to run.
Speaker 2: It's a go route. So now you're not moving great.
Speaker 2: You weren't a burner in the first place, and your
Speaker 2: team doesn't let you run vertical? How are you gonna
Speaker 2: get open? And his ability to snap down to like
Speaker 2: get close, to get open is unbelieva. He would run,
Speaker 2: he'd run hitch routes against press and you get open
Speaker 2: even though they never threw a go ball. Right, Like
Speaker 2: as a dB, if you study tape and you never
Speaker 2: see your guy go vertical, you're just gonna sit on
Speaker 2: every route. And he over and over again is able
Speaker 2: to get open. You know, make a ton of catches.
Speaker 2: He's billy in and out of breaks. Like how quick
Speaker 2: he is. He runs that little Colorado route which I
Speaker 2: think they let him run on an option when it
Speaker 2: was rather easy to run in the shallow if he's
Speaker 2: got it or he's you know, bursting back out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's made a killing on that. But you guys don't
Speaker 2: have any of those two way goes to read it routes.
Speaker 2: You see ours. We still to read it, but we
Speaker 2: don't do it like that. We don't do it off
Speaker 2: of like the shallow.
Speaker 7: We don't do it.
Speaker 1: We do it off cross routes. Yeah, so six fifteen
Speaker 1: and you're you're the cross. Are either going across the
Speaker 1: twenty four or you bring it out to the bow,
Speaker 1: read it out.
Speaker 3: What do you have on the backside?
Speaker 1: Go go, It's just for you to get open and
Speaker 1: fucking win. Third, you know, if you knew you were
Speaker 1: getting man coverage, you can get it protected. You knew
Speaker 1: you if they weren't thief in or money or rob
Speaker 1: robbing you, that's where you go. Or you put a
Speaker 1: deep stopper on one side that converts so if they
Speaker 1: robber it, you can hit that stopper because you know
Speaker 1: you got It's it's true, one true, one man shows,
Speaker 1: one man show, fifty three yards to get open, just
Speaker 1: throwing me the coach.
Speaker 7: You gotta get in there.
Speaker 4: Come on, That's just not how we operate.
Speaker 3: Really, we don't do the We don't do that.
Speaker 7: What it's got to fit the system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you a man, if you have a
Speaker 1: and you guys don't play man teams though, no, we played.
Speaker 7: We played man teams.
Speaker 4: What man team do you played? Right now? Who's the
Speaker 4: man team?
Speaker 2: Are you just saying that because you came from the Patriots,
Speaker 2: who play you know, just lay a ton of man man.
Speaker 4: We didn't play man against you guys in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I'm third down, you did well.
Speaker 1: Third down is always man coverage. Not always, but yeah,
Speaker 1: most of the time is always man. It comes down
Speaker 1: to man coverage.
Speaker 2: We all know you did in the Super Bowl. We
Speaker 2: changed it up your six to one.
Speaker 4: You weren't there.
Speaker 7: I was there. I was there.
Speaker 2: I was watching the whole thing. Third down double Robert
Speaker 2: Woods gil Moore on BC. You want to know it's
Speaker 2: a sweet play from that. I don't know if you guys,
Speaker 2: when you guys produce this, if you can put it
Speaker 2: in there. But Robert Woods ran a sale route on
Speaker 2: third down on our sideline, going from our sideline looking
Speaker 2: right to left against the double team, and that was unbelievable,
Speaker 2: unbelievable catch on the.
Speaker 4: Sideline, but he sold it in.
Speaker 2: He sold it in, sold any kind of stuck it,
Speaker 2: flattened it out, and he had the outside leverage guy
Speaker 2: and just shaved undernath the outside leverage guy.
Speaker 3: Throw to the sideline.
Speaker 1: I bet you that dB got murdered in on the
Speaker 1: sideline by Bill.
Speaker 7: Don't lose your leverage.
Speaker 2: Just keep your leverage. We're yeah, I'm sure he did.
Speaker 2: But it was a freaking a sweet route.
Speaker 1: Did did be Cooks give you guys any info.
Speaker 3: Go into that game?
Speaker 2: Uh? Non't remember, I'm doing a ton, But this is
Speaker 2: a tough it's a tough thing. We got teams, like
Speaker 2: everyone thinks, like with all the players, it's it's too hard.
Speaker 2: It's too much stuff, putting on a defense and offense.
Speaker 2: A I always thinking about so much stuff. And then
Speaker 2: you guys came out anyways and did something you've never
Speaker 2: done any anyways. So it's like the worst thing about
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is you get two weeks don overthink.
Speaker 4: Everything, overthink everything, and over prepare for anything.
Speaker 2: So you prepare based on the film, because why would
Speaker 2: you prepare for something you haven't seen it? War prepare
Speaker 2: for the film for two weeks.
Speaker 7: Do what they do team guys.
Speaker 2: And then they show up and you guys did uh
Speaker 2: you guys did the Uh Chicago?
Speaker 3: What the defense you guys ran? It was?
Speaker 1: It was it was it was it was blue zero.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 3: Was Fangio had done it earlier that year with Chicago.
Speaker 4: I wasn't in on the defensive meetings. You guys gotta
Speaker 4: watch that.
Speaker 3: I don't pay attention to you, but you guys are
Speaker 3: doing on I.
Speaker 1: Just saw there was interceptions by Gilmore when third down
Speaker 1: and it was needed. Us sitting there on the sideline,
Speaker 1: like that's for the coach.
Speaker 7: Let's go.
Speaker 4: When mccordy ran out there and knocked it.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So that play wasn't even in. That
Speaker 2: play was not You.
Speaker 4: Guys talked about it on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a That was a play that we
Speaker 2: drew up on the sideline that we had run before,
Speaker 2: but it was not part of the game plan, like
Speaker 2: we got to get this thing in there, and it's tough.
Speaker 1: It seemed like coach was a little starstruck, though with
Speaker 1: with Belichick for stars.
Speaker 4: I love coach.
Speaker 1: We played against each other in colleague, Like, I love
Speaker 1: coach mcvagh.
Speaker 7: That's my dog.
Speaker 1: So we've gone and got hammered together and stuff.
Speaker 4: But you know, he wasn't a star.
Speaker 2: He wasn't starstruck. Little No, I don't think that's what
Speaker 2: it was. He saw Darth Vader for the first time.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh my, you watched any of these young guys.
Speaker 2: You watching any of these young guys coming out, Harrison
Speaker 2: or coming out? Yeah, you watch young guys. I watched
Speaker 2: just as much as you watched like college football. I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not like pulling up guys film and like
Speaker 2: scouting them.
Speaker 1: I watched highlights. That's not what you don't really get
Speaker 1: into out of the highlights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you see the catch at the end yards well,
Speaker 2: you think you can see what his best is and
Speaker 2: then you can assume what. But you get to see
Speaker 2: the whole route all the time. That's the thing that
Speaker 2: kills me is all the time. It's like, okay, I
Speaker 2: saw you get off the line and then you disappeared
Speaker 2: and you caught it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Usually they just go routes in college for verticals.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited to see it, though.
Speaker 2: I've heard there's some really good like some good guys
Speaker 2: coming out.
Speaker 1: So I just got to ask one thing, what's up
Speaker 1: with this red turf at Easter in Washington.
Speaker 4: What's up with that?
Speaker 9: Dude?
Speaker 2: The inferno just on fire. It's literally on fire.
Speaker 4: Does it get hot?
Speaker 2: It gets pretty hot, it does. And then how is
Speaker 2: it just a mess with your eyes? No, Honestly, when
Speaker 2: you're when you're playing on it all the time, it's not.
Speaker 2: So it's homefield advantage for real. It's one hundred percent
Speaker 2: homefield advantage.
Speaker 1: Because guys are tripping when they go on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's for sure an adjustment period, get used to it.
Speaker 2: But like as I go back and watch, if I
Speaker 2: see a highlight or whatever of the red turf, now
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 7: Whoa, it's like blinding mind eyes.
Speaker 2: But the but when you're on it all we practice
Speaker 2: on it every day, it was just that was home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. We
Speaker 1: got a segment. Let's go back to January thirtieth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. We go over pop culture.
Speaker 4: What was going on?
Speaker 1: It was that long ago, But the number one movie
Speaker 1: was Spider Man No Way Home.
Speaker 4: Just watching my daughter, she loves it.
Speaker 7: Every time we do this, always always a Spider Man.
Speaker 1: I feel Spider Spider Man has been on somebody's done
Speaker 1: fifty of these shows, now fifty Everyone from Terry Bradshaw
Speaker 1: in the seventies to New Guys and Spider Man has
Speaker 1: been on like seven.
Speaker 2: Just keep going, you all the way back to what
Speaker 2: was the og? You guys consider the og that Toby maguire,
Speaker 2: I like you. That's that's so from then on. How
Speaker 2: many Spider Man movies have there been?
Speaker 7: Number two was a lot.
Speaker 4: I think it's like it's like seven or eight. There's
Speaker 4: no weird licensing thing. I won't bore you with. That's
Speaker 4: Sony has I know Sony has it.
Speaker 7: They have to do it.
Speaker 4: Then we count animated, We count animated? Right, Yeah?
Speaker 7: All the.
Speaker 4: New ones are good. You like Spider Man?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You action for your guy?
Speaker 2: You like no, But my boys are really big into superheroes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's their favorite. Batman is probably the favorite Batman
Speaker 2: is that is real? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Real? These are real tools he's using.
Speaker 8: Jules always tells us how he's more of a Robin
Speaker 8: Man than a Batman Man.
Speaker 7: Uh Dan, just as Robbie Robin.
Speaker 1: The number one song was Easy on Me by Adele.
Speaker 3: We like it.
Speaker 1: I like adel Do you see that sphere? You see
Speaker 1: her at the sphere. You see, you've been in Vegas
Speaker 1: the sphere I was. I saw the sphere being built.
Speaker 1: I've been in Vegas one time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I miss so much.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell finishes his first season as head coach of
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions with a three and thirteen and one record.
Speaker 4: I liked him at the beginning. It was you don't
Speaker 4: like anymore. I like him.
Speaker 1: I like Dan Campbell, but he there's a fine line
Speaker 1: between reckless and aggressive, and he's tinkering on that reckless
Speaker 1: side way too much.
Speaker 2: Steering on what you perceive. No, it was like, no,
Speaker 2: I've done what he's trying to do. He needs to
Speaker 2: coach the Detroit No, I've been part championship teams. You
Speaker 2: have to your team never went for it on like
Speaker 2: fourth and thirty.
Speaker 7: Yeah, those ones.
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Bros By kneecaps man, we.
Speaker 1: Gotta like them, but death I go to bat from
Speaker 1: all the time, But we gotta know.
Speaker 2: I really like what he's got going on there. Players
Speaker 2: are super bought into their stuff. It's it sounds like
Speaker 2: a great place, a really fun place to play.
Speaker 1: I bet there's a lot of They got a lot
Speaker 1: of juice right now. They got a lot of NFL
Speaker 1: coaches with that.
Speaker 4: That's a cool that'd be a cool place to uh
Speaker 4: to win in Detroit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they love their fans.
Speaker 1: Scream, liquorice Pizza, and the Matrix Resurrections were all popping
Speaker 1: off in the box office. I didn't like the Matrix
Speaker 1: that much.
Speaker 4: You like it? No? I mean Matrix one was didn't
Speaker 4: do everything?
Speaker 7: Can't you Maketux like Matrix?
Speaker 2: I've seen the Ogs. Yeah, Resurrections, Scream was this a
Speaker 2: new Scream?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a new one again. Didn't really cross my
Speaker 7: desk very hard.
Speaker 3: Which liquor Spizza?
Speaker 7: That's like an indie movie with Thomas Anderson, A big fan,
Speaker 7: big fan.
Speaker 4: Who's in that?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: Tyler doesn't seem.
Speaker 7: He doesn't like late era PTA, which I like, like
Speaker 7: most things.
Speaker 4: Pretty miserable.
Speaker 2: I've been working with him for going through life, just
Speaker 2: pretty much not liking anything nothing.
Speaker 4: Bob saggett r I p alright. He loved him on
Speaker 4: Full House. That's how old I am.
Speaker 7: Raised me bro I was raised on the reruns, but
Speaker 7: still TBS. After school was going on in the sports world. Wait,
Speaker 7: can we gotta give some shining to Kevin James bro.
Speaker 7: This is when Home Team dropped. He was playing Sean
Speaker 7: Payton man.
Speaker 4: Sean Payton who?
Speaker 7: All right, we asked the question who would play Sean
Speaker 7: mcvaannon movie?
Speaker 3: Who plays Sean McVay?
Speaker 7: Who would who would if Kevin James plays Sean Payton
Speaker 7: in this movie?
Speaker 3: So you're saying the standards really low.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like Kevin James.
Speaker 4: I like Kevin James, but that is funny.
Speaker 3: In terms of how I liked. They need to look.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I don't like Kevin James, was
Speaker 2: saying the standard. It was not like his acting. It
Speaker 2: was a bad movie, wasn't it.
Speaker 7: Haven't seen it? Who's playing Sean McVay. I'm struggling there.
Speaker 2: There's I know, I know, I know he's gonna want
Speaker 2: me to say someone that he has a ton of
Speaker 2: respect for, and like, I think he's actually referenced someone.
Speaker 2: I think the rams actually referenced someone playing Sean who.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 2: It was in the draft house, one of the draft houses.
Speaker 3: They had him there. I don't know, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Huh, Glenn Powell, Glenn Powell.
Speaker 7: That'd be pretty good. Yeah, right, made that good look good.
Speaker 10: I just want him on the show. You just want
Speaker 10: him on the show. Jules who played Bill, who played Bill?
Speaker 10: Danny DeVito be a fun Bill.
Speaker 7: That'd be good. It'd be a fun Bill.
Speaker 2: You could do something fun with that. Danny de Vito
Speaker 2: is Bill Belichick. You can do some you can do
Speaker 2: some good stuff for that the trailer. Now, let's go
Speaker 2: back into Sports World. Super Bowl champions La Rams.
Speaker 1: You guys won it. Hats off.
Speaker 4: That was pretty cool to watch Stafford come over Day one,
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl and the fl m VP Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7: His corduroy suit.
Speaker 2: I remember anti wide receiver bias.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should have been an i VP.
Speaker 2: Bro Receivers got to stick together on this thing.
Speaker 7: You had an insane year.
Speaker 1: Didn't you break like six records?
Speaker 2: I don't know, we were we were close. We were
Speaker 2: close to three. I think we were actually we were
Speaker 2: actually you know, we were eighteen yards off of Calvin's
Speaker 2: but it was but I mean it was the extra game.
Speaker 2: We did have the extra game that year still and
Speaker 2: actually know we had we had that the last drive
Speaker 2: of that game. That's the last game of the of
Speaker 2: the season, right, the last rid of the season, second
Speaker 2: to last We had a fly sweep that went for
Speaker 2: eighteen yards, but.
Speaker 3: We handed it, gave it a little pick. You imagine
Speaker 3: if it was just it.
Speaker 1: Was just matth You come on, would they have gave
Speaker 1: it to him?
Speaker 4: If he would have beat the record?
Speaker 7: Will give?
Speaker 2: I think I think you have to have it as Yeah,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers numbers, it looks like going forward from now
Speaker 2: though it ask to be asterisk as like a seventeen game,
Speaker 2: like from seventeen game thing going forward?
Speaker 4: I mean, was Aaron Rodgers numbers that great?
Speaker 7: For four hundred and fifteen yards, thirty seven tds, only
Speaker 7: four picks?
Speaker 4: Yeah, good hundred, one hundred, eleven point nine passer rating.
Speaker 2: But he's got he's got those laying around his house.
Speaker 7: Lame, that's nothing compared to one hundred and forty five
Speaker 7: catches and almost two thousand yards sixteen receiving touchdowns. It
Speaker 7: was a pretty good season.
Speaker 4: By that was a fucking monster season. Pretty good season.
Speaker 1: National champions or was Georgia this old Georgia thing they
Speaker 1: go back to back this year, they go back to back.
Speaker 4: To the first of the two.
Speaker 7: Let me double.
Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young was the Heisman Trophy winner. Man,
Speaker 1: he's been in a bad situation. Yeah, I feel bad
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 7: It was it was.
Speaker 4: It was tough, that whole thing. It's tough.
Speaker 1: Winter Olympics kickoff in China, which was god awful I heard.
Speaker 1: I mean people were dying of I think breathing problems
Speaker 1: with the pollution, right, and then I think didn't didn't
Speaker 1: they not have enough snow? I remember they had snow.
Speaker 7: It was it was a mess.
Speaker 1: First NFL season to consist with seventeen regular season games.
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on that. That's hard, It's hard.
Speaker 3: It is hard.
Speaker 2: You know what it's the hardest is when you finish
Speaker 2: your sixteenth game. Yeah, like we should really in the
Speaker 2: playoffs right now, we got another we gotta go to
Speaker 2: another game.
Speaker 4: Young, we don't even have that feeling.
Speaker 7: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's the you know, if you're ignorant to the fact
Speaker 2: of like the fact that it used to be sixteen,
Speaker 2: or that it used to be fourteen and that's going
Speaker 2: to be eighteen.
Speaker 4: We want the we want the health and safety of
Speaker 4: the players to be in our mind.
Speaker 3: We're making about the health and safety of the players.
Speaker 7: It really, it really is the.
Speaker 1: Safety of the players. That's why we're gonna add one
Speaker 1: more violent car crash to their life. Yes, one more,
Speaker 1: one more, one more game of.
Speaker 7: Violent car crashes, car crashes.
Speaker 2: So I've heard people, I'm not going to name names,
Speaker 2: people have thrown out the idea of what if you
Speaker 2: did took out O t AS.
Speaker 7: I haven't started.
Speaker 4: Sloppy football right now exactly.
Speaker 7: So that's that.
Speaker 2: That's that is the fear right and innovation. You lose
Speaker 2: innovation if you have ots, you take out ot as,
Speaker 2: maybe you split part of OTAs, put it to training camp.
Speaker 3: Be you cut training camps.
Speaker 2: You end up with like a similar ish time where
Speaker 2: there's a build up of O t A s into
Speaker 2: training camp. Right, So like Oka's how OTA starts, you know,
Speaker 2: just workouts and meetings, then just routes on air and
Speaker 2: meetings and lifting and.
Speaker 3: Then eventually training camp.
Speaker 2: Right, if you were to do it like that, but
Speaker 2: you were to say you were gonna go like twenty
Speaker 2: one games, so you add games, shortened the overall season
Speaker 2: of work for a for players. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 2: advocating for twenty one games because that sounds it's a lot,
Speaker 2: and then you've got playoffs on top of that. I'm
Speaker 2: saying that someone has thrown this idea out. Is what
Speaker 2: would revenue look like if you were to get to
Speaker 2: that place and say, as players, you're gonna get once
Speaker 2: the season's over, you're not going back to work until
Speaker 2: you know, late July.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's the problem with our union
Speaker 1: and us as players. They throw this little bullshit and
Speaker 1: in front of us like hey, guys, look, we're gonna
Speaker 1: shorten your practice. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do this,
Speaker 1: and they slide in seven other games and they take
Speaker 1: all the revenues for all the guys. Damn the playoffs. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's the same, it is. It is the same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, you get
Speaker 2: to like the safety of the game and the players
Speaker 2: they're doing things. I'm glad I'm not playing defense because
Speaker 2: I understand the challenges of playing defense in this league now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but when.
Speaker 2: You add in all the player safety concerns, the things
Speaker 2: that are being negotiated by players that we don't want
Speaker 2: to do that, then it's like, well, we don't want
Speaker 2: to you know what, don't test me for drugs for
Speaker 2: a few more weeks. Speaking at the game on yeah,
Speaker 2: that's there's like the things that like everything we give up,
Speaker 2: we're also like, or everything we get we're also giving
Speaker 2: something up. Yeah, but they're like laughing the owners or
Speaker 2: something that's any doesn't make any difference. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think they really care about that.
Speaker 1: No, So but the thing is what what what will
Speaker 1: happen if they were to try to do that? The
Speaker 1: product will get so shitty because it's already been sloppy
Speaker 1: these last couple of years. As far as if you
Speaker 1: look at offensive line play at the beginning of each
Speaker 1: year I'm on TV, we talk about, oh, the offensive
Speaker 1: line play for this team, that team, that team, this
Speaker 1: team is terrible. Why is that you get fourteen padded
Speaker 1: practices in the regular season, you get what five to
Speaker 1: seven in training camp?
Speaker 4: And that's like an art for these guys.
Speaker 1: They have to have live reps in order to be
Speaker 1: able to communicate and do their job and get the
Speaker 1: situations that they're gonna have in games. So if you
Speaker 1: do this, the product is gonna continually get watered down
Speaker 1: and you're gonna lose fanship. So it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where they better not get too fast. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there is what is it like that, something like that, you.
Speaker 2: Get hungry pigs get slaughtered, something like the hungry pigs
Speaker 2: slaughtered exactly.
Speaker 1: It does because the league things are so good where
Speaker 1: they're just gonna keep on generating more and more revenues.
Speaker 4: But they're gonna.
Speaker 2: See gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, they're the hungry pigs. Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. You have to protect the
Speaker 2: product of the game. And I think that also comes
Speaker 2: down to a responsibility on players who want less and
Speaker 2: less practice who already I think relative between maybe you
Speaker 2: started in the league what practice look like versus now,
Speaker 2: it's like you're ignorant to what football used to look like,
Speaker 2: right because you never knew it. Like this is like
Speaker 2: the rookies coming in now, this is the NFL. They're
Speaker 2: gonna know forever, forever, Right, The NFL that you knew
Speaker 2: is much different from when you started to where it ended.
Speaker 2: There's a responsibility players to do something in the off
Speaker 2: season to prepare yourself to get ready to go.
Speaker 1: But we've been seeing through statistics that that response and
Speaker 1: ability has not been getting taken by the player because
Speaker 1: injuries are through a fucking room.
Speaker 2: Had exactly quarterbacks and this is where I think there
Speaker 2: There isn't one hundred percent. I don't want to. I
Speaker 2: just wish that more guys showed up ready to go,
Speaker 2: you know. And that's that's why I think I've i'm
Speaker 2: i'm I understand this in terms of the the issues
Speaker 2: between the league and the players, and the product needs
Speaker 2: to be good. And there's obviously that you is always
Speaker 2: gonna argue for less work, the league's always gonna argue
Speaker 2: for more games.
Speaker 3: There's a middle ground here.
Speaker 2: We gotta come together and figure out what's the way
Speaker 2: we put our best product forward. Give When the product's good,
Speaker 2: the money's gonna be good for the league, which mean
Speaker 2: somebody's been good for the players. It's all gonna go
Speaker 2: full circle. But we gotta figure out where that middle
Speaker 2: ground is. There is a responsibility on players to show
Speaker 2: up right to work, I think, and that's where I
Speaker 2: think some of this stuff could happen where guys in
Speaker 2: the summer take I'm like, if you don't want to
Speaker 2: be ray for OTAs, I'm fine with that. But the
Speaker 2: guys that leave all summer, don't do anything all summer,
Speaker 2: and then show up for training camp that summer, you
Speaker 2: get five weeks from OTAs to the tramp, take your break,
Speaker 2: and then get ready to work, because it's in your
Speaker 2: best interest as a player to show up, raay to go,
Speaker 2: to protect yourself, protect your teammates, be ready to put
Speaker 2: your best foot forward. If you don't show up to
Speaker 2: training camp ready to go. I have a hard time
Speaker 2: when guys get hurt, or guys do stuff, or guys
Speaker 2: aren't ready, or guys are you know, getting talked to
Speaker 2: by coaches will potentially get released. It is like I
Speaker 2: saw that you were in the Caribbean for three weeks.
Speaker 2: It's professional football. Yeah, you got this professional football.
Speaker 4: Guys used to back in nineteen sixties and seventies that
Speaker 4: played this goddamn game or mechanics in the offseason because
Speaker 4: they getting get paid.
Speaker 1: Its professional Football'll get paid all of good money. Get
Speaker 1: your ass in the gym, on the field, get right,
Speaker 1: and let's go. Yeah, it's to Belichicky. Yeah, let's segue
Speaker 1: this in. Let's start getting into these games.
Speaker 7: Hey, before we get into these games and these teams
Speaker 7: real quick. Twenty two. Prior to this season, we had
Speaker 7: some very notable retirements in the NFL. Drew Brees, Lashawn McCoy,
Speaker 7: Philip Rivers, Adam Vinnecciery, Demirius Thomas, Jason Witten, and yours truly,
Speaker 7: Julian Edelman.
Speaker 4: I didn't retire this year.
Speaker 7: That's right.
Speaker 4: I had to give you a little shine in that.
Speaker 7: Brother. Should we get into these teams.
Speaker 4: Tough here, Sorry, San Francisco forty nine ers, let's hear
Speaker 4: the Niner game team though.
Speaker 7: Let's love these guys. Grew up loving this team.
Speaker 1: It's better than me wearing a San Francisco shirt.
Speaker 2: That would be disrespectful. Yeah, but I grew up. This
Speaker 2: is my team.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: My dog's name was Dwight and Montana. I had two dogs,
Speaker 4: Tim Dwight and Joe Montana. There were my dogs.
Speaker 7: I'm part of that franchise.
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, no you're not, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 3: Like you've got your your you.
Speaker 4: Keep saying your dogs, Tim DWIGHTE and Dwight Clark, Dwight Clark,
Speaker 4: Tim patri with him.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's saying you have your allegiance, Like when you're growing up,
Speaker 2: you have your allegiance, but eventually you you're a Patriot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm full of full on patriot. Was a guy
Speaker 4: growing up was that you were a Seahawks guy or what. No,
Speaker 4: I'm from Washington, so I I yeah, I grew up Seattle.
Speaker 4: Seahawks were kind of the team.
Speaker 2: And then he got to a point where I like
Speaker 2: bedtime was when the game was over, so I was
Speaker 2: rooting for overtime always.
Speaker 4: I got that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then there's also a point where you know, uh,
Speaker 2: Hasselbeck had his this moment and then Seawn Alexander, Shawn
Speaker 2: Alexander kind of like started just he was just kind
Speaker 2: of done. I think he's only cover Madden. He's the same,
Speaker 2: and it was it just wasn't really the same. And
Speaker 2: that's why I really had tough. I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I just want to see good football. And that's so
Speaker 2: I kind of transitioned. I just wanted I don't want
Speaker 2: to see good football teams, good football players. You mentioned
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. You guys both played a lot like Steve.
Speaker 4: Largin loved large and he's he's the godfather, even though
Speaker 4: we don't play anything alike. But just being a white.
Speaker 1: Dude that got up and went down that sideline, jumped
Speaker 1: and got it, loved them, loved them.
Speaker 7: Call of Faber.
Speaker 1: He's like a he's like a congressman. Now, yeah, look
Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, he's like he's fucking like sharp.
Speaker 4: Damn shout out Steve.
Speaker 7: All right, So this Niners team, this was the fifth
Speaker 7: year of the Shanahan Lynch era. Bounced back from his
Speaker 7: six and ten season the year prior started this year
Speaker 7: three and five, had to go seven and nine to
Speaker 7: make the playoffs. In that last year of the season
Speaker 7: or that last week of the season, it was winning
Speaker 7: get in against the Rams. As Coop mentioned earlier. Top
Speaker 7: ten in total offense, top ten and total defense. Pretty
Speaker 7: well put together on both sides of the ball. This
Speaker 7: was the fifth season of the Jimmy g era in
Speaker 7: San Francisco, which is kind of Jimmy. And this was
Speaker 7: the year that they traded up to make that Trey
Speaker 7: Lance pick third.
Speaker 4: Overall, how's that one working out?
Speaker 1: But they also got brocked pretty right in that same draft.
Speaker 7: No year, next year, next year, Yeah, next year. And
Speaker 7: then Pro Bowlers Kyle of used, Check, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle,
Speaker 7: Trent Williams, Alex Mack, Nick Bosa, and Laken Tomlinson.
Speaker 1: Alex Mack was really good for a long time. He's
Speaker 1: probably the best center for our generation.
Speaker 7: He's doing the splits no way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like really flexible. Damn I know that. Should
Speaker 4: we hit these rams real quick? Coop jump in anytime.
Speaker 7: This is your squad, brother h Cooper Cup became the
Speaker 7: first player to win the Triple Crown since Steve Smith
Speaker 7: in two thousand and five. That was the big headline
Speaker 7: of this season. It's also Stafford's first year in LA.
Speaker 7: That was huge. He had a banner year career high
Speaker 7: in touchdowns, in completion percentage. As we noted with our
Speaker 7: former guest Andrew Whitworth, this was his sixteenth and final
Speaker 7: season in the NFL.
Speaker 4: He went out on top like a beast.
Speaker 9: Love that.
Speaker 7: And then Obj joined the squad in week ten. Came
Speaker 7: over from Cleveland after his dad made those comments, and he.
Speaker 1: Put it highlight the highlight film. It's like a Bill
Speaker 1: highlight film. It's a low light right there. BROI to
Speaker 1: Bill too. And then Pro Bowlers.
Speaker 7: We got Cooper Cup, Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, and kicker
Speaker 7: Matt Gay. What a squad?
Speaker 2: Oh that's Pro Bowlers. Kind of weird, right, Team up
Speaker 2: North A.
Speaker 4: Lot of mattered was at the end. What's that mean?
Speaker 4: Team up North. He's got a bunch of names. You
Speaker 4: guys are underdogs always, that's they're north of.
Speaker 7: US twelve and five team won the NFC West by
Speaker 7: the way, McVay head coach and a lot of Uh
Speaker 7: we had Kevin o'connellosi, right.
Speaker 4: He was yep, how do you like koc He's a man.
Speaker 2: I really like him. I played with him, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my rookie year dream.
Speaker 4: Well he was cool. I mean I was a rookie.
Speaker 4: He was a second year guy.
Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, So you treat you will?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we we hung out a bunch. There's like
Speaker 1: a slap dick group. He was part he was part
Speaker 1: of the Well, we were just guys that you know
Speaker 1: that weren't starters. You know, they were the Patriots then
Speaker 1: they already had like it just came off of two
Speaker 1: years ago. They almost went undefeated, three super Bowls and ship.
Speaker 4: So like there's a group.
Speaker 1: There's like socioeconomic statuses in the locker room. You understand that, No,
Speaker 1: we don't do that. How was the share of receivers Odell?
Speaker 7: It was great. Honestly.
Speaker 2: He came in energy, energy and he's he's he is himself.
Speaker 2: He's going to be who he is. I think anytime you,
Speaker 2: I imagine I've been with her. I've been looking enough
Speaker 2: to be with the Rams for you know, coming on
Speaker 2: eight years now. So I don't know what it's like
Speaker 2: going to a new team either do you. But so
Speaker 2: I would imagine you come in like you're trying to
Speaker 2: You're in a new place around, surrounded by a bunch
Speaker 2: of new people, trying to get a feel for what
Speaker 2: the room's about, how we do things. And I think
Speaker 2: there was probably like a one week period where it
Speaker 2: was like an adjustment period of like, uh, we don't
Speaker 2: we don't do that. But it wasn't ever anything like
Speaker 2: yeah nothing, nothing egregious or anything. But it was like
Speaker 2: there was a girlth and then it was like, man,
Speaker 2: he's just a part of the team. And he was
Speaker 2: such an incredible teammate, brought so much energy to everything
Speaker 2: that we did, and obviously it was a huge part
Speaker 2: of that that season.
Speaker 1: He's got an aura, you know what I mean, when
Speaker 1: you got Odell, It's kind of like when Tebow joined
Speaker 1: our team, Like he came in and he had an
Speaker 1: aura about him. So it's it's always fun to hear
Speaker 1: about how they are in the room.
Speaker 7: Yeah, how was that with the tibo?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I've talked about it so much on this podcast.
Speaker 1: What makes Sean and Jay so special?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 2: Quick transitions? Okay, what makes Sean McVay so special?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: And all honestly, you get serious for a second.
Speaker 7: He does.
Speaker 2: He commands the room. That ane I've ever been around,
Speaker 2: right like comes in. His ability to communicate to people
Speaker 2: get a message across is a one. I think it's
Speaker 2: for any coach. If you can't, if you're not a
Speaker 2: good communicator, you're gonna make everyone's life miserable. And so
Speaker 2: for him, as from the very top, you're getting clear,
Speaker 2: concise communication that trickles down through through everything.
Speaker 7: When we had wit on, he said he walked in
Speaker 7: on McVeigh watching game tape of himself giving speeches to
Speaker 7: the team, trying to break down his own stuff.
Speaker 2: Why do you pause? After he said he walked in on.
Speaker 9: The gate.
Speaker 7: Traumatic effects?
Speaker 3: I was like, doing what.
Speaker 4: Linger for a second?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, well, because I think that was a super
Speaker 2: important thing for him coming he was I mean, he
Speaker 2: was my age when he was head coach of the
Speaker 2: la As you're you're stepping in, you're my age, going
Speaker 2: in like I can understand being critical and wanting to
Speaker 2: learn from all this. This is your first time leading
Speaker 2: team meeting as players, we can opportunity to watch ourselves
Speaker 2: and learn. And you know, I think he wanted to
Speaker 2: learn and be the best that he could be for us.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that's uh, he takes that mentality.
Speaker 2: He is very critical of himself and wants to be
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to let people down, and you know,
Speaker 2: that's kind of it's hard for people, and I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of what drives a lot of the things
Speaker 2: that he does.
Speaker 1: I love that he he like just outside looking in
Speaker 1: and I mean, I've gone to practice, but I'm not there.
Speaker 1: But you could just tell he's got just leadership quality.
Speaker 1: He's a leader of men.
Speaker 9: Is that?
Speaker 1: And then the communication thing is is so.
Speaker 4: So important in this generation. Yeah, just you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: And he knows how to do He seems like he
Speaker 1: knows how to be a chameleon with each guy to
Speaker 1: make them get their best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, find find ways to motivate people and connect
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 3: I think he does a he does a really good
Speaker 3: job of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah he does.
Speaker 1: Now, one guy, you're probably gonna be missing that was
Speaker 1: on this team Aaron Donald, I mean that's how how
Speaker 1: like special was just to watch him in practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I mean, there's nothing like what he was
Speaker 2: able to do. The chances that his it was really like,
Speaker 2: his ability to choose win, to take risks and take
Speaker 2: his shot was unbelievable because of his preparation, because of
Speaker 2: the you know, his preparation going into games. And then
Speaker 2: it was when he did take his shot and it
Speaker 2: wasn't there his ability to then counter and like close
Speaker 2: gaps still, right, he'd play out of his gap more
Speaker 2: than anyone ever, but he would make sure that he
Speaker 2: was doing his job and closing it if he was
Speaker 2: an issue, you know, like yeah, but he wasn't he
Speaker 2: two gap, but he'd straight up he'd run around you.
Speaker 2: He's so fast, so quick, Like it's like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get past you and I'm gonna make things around on
Speaker 2: the other side.
Speaker 4: Now, was he a guy that like lived in the
Speaker 4: weight room? He was alway, Oh, he's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: He I think so AD's thing like he secretly wants
Speaker 2: to be like h Like he wants to be Dwayne Johnson.
Speaker 2: That's where that's where his Yeah, he wants to be that.
Speaker 2: He wants to be the rock and he's so he
Speaker 2: spends so much time lifting and it's not even like
Speaker 2: like functional lifts sometimes, you know, it's.
Speaker 7: I've actually worked out with him.
Speaker 2: I went and worked out with him one time, so
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, the off season's like you get
Speaker 2: to work on them together. Tells me the toime show
Speaker 2: up an hour and a half straight of arms an
Speaker 2: hour and a half, you amy muscles up in your arms,
Speaker 2: not there's not a lot like seven Yeah, that's saying
Speaker 2: like bicep, tricep, Yeah, shoulder maybe if you count that
Speaker 2: as part of your arm and the forums for.
Speaker 3: An hour and a half.
Speaker 4: I mean he looked like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, you don't need to
Speaker 2: be doing arms for an.
Speaker 7: Hour and a half.
Speaker 4: No, but when your baby rhino, you do that, dude
Speaker 4: look like a straight rhino.
Speaker 3: He is unbelievably strong.
Speaker 2: And then obviously all the things on top of it
Speaker 2: that you have as a football player where there's like
Speaker 2: he just loves working out, loves lifting, and that just
Speaker 2: it was an extra little part on top of the
Speaker 2: fact that he is, you know, I think the best
Speaker 2: defensive player of all time and the skills and all
Speaker 2: the stuff stuff that he had going for him.
Speaker 6: In that regard, how many dtackles in the history of
Speaker 6: the NFL have had abs, it's.
Speaker 7: Not a lot a lot.
Speaker 1: Who's the unsung hero of this game though, before we
Speaker 1: get into the.
Speaker 2: Game unsung here of this game for the team, for
Speaker 2: the team, it's hard to say. There are so many
Speaker 2: guys that made plays throughout that entire game. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if I choose one person it was. I think
Speaker 2: it was just a full team win. Yeah, everyone just
Speaker 2: everyone did their job and it was a good when
Speaker 2: that when they needed to be they were it.
Speaker 7: Will make plays, definitely, don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have anything I like that though.
Speaker 1: I like when you when you win against the team
Speaker 1: and they were your they were your kryptonite for a while.
Speaker 9: Bro.
Speaker 1: That's big to do in the NFC Championship after losing
Speaker 1: them twice in the same year, Like, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to prove. Everyone had to do their fucking job to
Speaker 1: get that wine to go to the next game and
Speaker 1: play the last game of the year, the best game
Speaker 1: of the year, Amen.
Speaker 7: Lead game lead up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about how we got to this game.
Speaker 7: It was pretty decent amen. The The Niners come in
Speaker 7: as a sixth seed, the Rams come in as the
Speaker 7: four seed.
Speaker 4: The path to get there the.
Speaker 7: Niners had to win at Dallas and at Lambeau in
Speaker 7: the snow.
Speaker 6: It's like an It was MVP Jimmy G.
Speaker 4: Jimmy G takes out the MVP. Baby man, what we
Speaker 4: do Rogers jokes and the Rams their path was pretty
Speaker 4: crazy as well.
Speaker 7: Easy win on the road in Arizona when thirty four
Speaker 7: to eleven, and then the crazy game down in Tampa
Speaker 7: taking out Brady Cooper coming through huge at the end.
Speaker 2: That's got to be So is that January twenty third,
Speaker 2: that was Covers Area. Yeah, Jerny twenty third might be
Speaker 2: the best day in history for football because you guys
Speaker 2: more the game that was after that, that was the
Speaker 2: Chiefs Bills game. That's right, Oh, that was like right
Speaker 2: after that game.
Speaker 4: Holy smokes.
Speaker 1: Divisional round always crazy. That's a fun weekend when you
Speaker 1: get out and you start to enjoy this like you're
Speaker 1: in it, so you're still doing it, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Divisional but nothing like championships. Saturday is awesome too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I think I think Coop just just brought
Speaker 4: up a point.
Speaker 7: We got to do that as an episode that day
Speaker 7: like a grand finale, the greatest day in football in
Speaker 7: recent history.
Speaker 2: It would be it would be competitive that game that
Speaker 2: day insane.
Speaker 7: Those are two of the.
Speaker 2: Wildest games because I thought that obviously both different too,
Speaker 2: like one of them were just a story of two
Speaker 2: different halves.
Speaker 3: And then you know that game, which was just back
Speaker 3: and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 4: Created an overtime role.
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay game I think at one point was the
Speaker 2: game twenty seventy three. I believe we were up at
Speaker 2: one point, we were up. We were up a lot,
Speaker 2: and we turned the ball over right before halftime.
Speaker 9: Too.
Speaker 1: I didn't have money on them beating you guys. I
Speaker 1: had money of them going to the super Bowl on Tampa.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I put it like a what do you lose fifty k?
Speaker 4: Fifty k?
Speaker 8: We were cursing your name a little zero.
Speaker 1: Guess that's what we're gonna do with zero, not cover
Speaker 1: the fucking crown winner.
Speaker 7: I believe that call. Let's put a.
Speaker 1: Safety on the triple crown winner, folks.
Speaker 4: I believe that the safety crowd winner.
Speaker 1: Fifty thous kids going to junior college.
Speaker 7: Now, no, you.
Speaker 4: Are right, you are right, Cooper, twenty seven to three.
Speaker 2: So with I remember looking up at the score and
Speaker 2: being like, gosh, I'm so glass, not twenty eight to three.
Speaker 2: I remember, Hey, oh gosh, so last not twenty to three.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that's the quarter of the episode. Yeah,
Speaker 7: with seven minutes left, y'all went up twenty in the
Speaker 7: third quarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I remember being like that, being a sans.
Speaker 2: Let's jump back into the game lead. Yeah, yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: back to the lead up of the game at hand. Here,
Speaker 2: the Niners, as we mentioned before, had won both regular
Speaker 2: season matchups. Kyle Shanahan kind of had coach mcvay's number
Speaker 2: one six in a row against him coming into this one,
Speaker 2: which is crazy.
Speaker 7: And the Niners front was insane. This playoff run five
Speaker 7: sacks in both the wild card and Divisional round games
Speaker 7: for him, that was crazy. And also that Niners playoff
Speaker 7: run against the Cowboys that was the first meeting since
Speaker 7: ninety four, rekindling the old.
Speaker 4: Niners Cowboys rivalry which you remember growing up.
Speaker 7: Jewels hated the Cowboys, and then crazy This game at
Speaker 7: hand we're talking about today, the title game. Michael Buffer
Speaker 7: did the opening kickoff. Let's get ready to rumble, guy,
Speaker 7: I do remember that wild What was up with this
Speaker 7: era of guys like La.
Speaker 4: La they bring out, they bring out the stars.
Speaker 2: The Rock opened up a game, then the Rock open
Speaker 2: up the super the Niners roster. Yeah this they went
Speaker 2: on a run here at one point over the last
Speaker 2: three years. I think we kindt of like, they're like
Speaker 2: seven first rounders on the defensive line. Oh yeah, but
Speaker 2: they just up front was man was pretty good.
Speaker 4: They had like two number one overall picks or something.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, you guys played this going in, going into the postseason,
Speaker 1: you played them twice. Did you guys really watch those
Speaker 1: games to prepare or.
Speaker 7: We did so?
Speaker 2: This first actually this first, I think this first touchdown
Speaker 2: here in the second quarter, the sixteen yard pass, yep,
Speaker 2: it was in the Yeah, it was the corner, yes,
Speaker 2: but it was the cover two corner route that we ran.
Speaker 2: And we'd actually seen the way that they were playing
Speaker 2: some stuff, uh to the backside on in the last
Speaker 2: game of the year. They were getting lazy at safety
Speaker 2: covering what felt like a backside route, and so we
Speaker 2: put this based a really similar concept up but kept
Speaker 2: put to the front side. Let Matthew kind of mess
Speaker 2: with that safety where you can look eyes away, hold it,
Speaker 2: you can put a little bit extra on the corner route.
Speaker 2: And then Matthew was able to just dart that thing
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: And the running back goes out to the flat.
Speaker 2: And yeah, try to get hold hold the guy down
Speaker 2: the corner. Yeah, we had a few things. Actually, Koc
Speaker 2: I believe was the one that had kind of caught
Speaker 2: that and installed that play for us.
Speaker 1: Now in your second touchdown pass, were you supposed to
Speaker 1: break out and then go and then he just beat
Speaker 1: him and just went.
Speaker 2: So the second one was against Kwan, right, So that's
Speaker 2: a man play that we had called.
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure what happened.
Speaker 2: Something got messed up out of clock was running down
Speaker 2: or what, and we we called it.
Speaker 3: We had a second play on it.
Speaker 2: We're like, hey, if we get manned, run if we don't,
Speaker 2: if we got zoned, get get out of the play.
Speaker 2: But we snapped the ball and they're in cover four,
Speaker 2: so we're in a we're in a packed formation. Were
Speaker 2: a tight bunch, right, and normally yes, I'm supposed to
Speaker 2: like wheel this thing out and count and like really,
Speaker 2: it's like it's like a stutter. It's really a play
Speaker 2: that we ran later on, or really a similar play
Speaker 2: we ran in the end of the the at the
Speaker 2: end of the season against Jimmy Warves. Little little stutter
Speaker 2: go it's a little stutter fade, is what it really is.
Speaker 2: Like clear everything out and then we kind of stutter
Speaker 2: fade from the slot they go. They go cover four
Speaker 2: and like, shoot, okay, now this this changes this route,
Speaker 2: now cover four. If you got someone quick to the flat,
Speaker 2: I can disappear because I know if that corner attaches
Speaker 2: to this, you know, this little.
Speaker 3: Short post route that's coming right.
Speaker 2: If I get that that corner attaches and I out
Speaker 2: leveraged the flat player, there's a chance that you can
Speaker 2: kind of like foop gap him down right back behind him.
Speaker 2: So I kind of sped it up to kind of
Speaker 2: basically kind of get lost outside of Kawan Williams and
Speaker 2: try wheel up to the front of Pilon And because
Speaker 2: I know where Matthew just did a great job game
Speaker 2: that ball. I mean, Kawan is like looking this way
Speaker 2: and the balls behind his head now on the other
Speaker 2: side just happened to be a good spot by Matthew.
Speaker 2: But yeah, one of those ones where it's not exactly
Speaker 2: what you're calling it for. But you find a way
Speaker 2: to kind of make it.
Speaker 4: We used to have a play like that called re
Speaker 4: pump that was specifically for cover four because once you
Speaker 4: go out and you run it out, that guy's gonna go,
Speaker 4: and then you have the you have the post that's
Speaker 4: gonna collect them.
Speaker 3: You just got to make sure you grab that corner.
Speaker 1: But you got to make sure you grab the linebacker
Speaker 1: and make him. You got to be patient with it.
Speaker 2: Oh you're saying you, yeah, I'm saying, but the corner
Speaker 2: outside and grab the corner first.
Speaker 7: That if the corner lets him go, you bang.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, corners off and then if that corner touches
Speaker 2: you're trying to like high low and high low.
Speaker 7: It's also a good cover six meter, which is cover three.
Speaker 7: Cover six is not cover three.
Speaker 1: We will we use will for people out there. Cover
Speaker 1: six is to the strength of the defense. We didn't
Speaker 1: bring the safety to the tight end. That's what we
Speaker 1: used to call cover six sixty six six. Cover three
Speaker 1: is if he went away from Oh really yeah, so
Speaker 1: if the safety went away from the passing strength. Yes,
Speaker 1: called six was a version of three. Well, it's a
Speaker 1: version of three. It's just the guy goes different side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's the same. We had the same They had
Speaker 1: the same responsibility. Interesting, Jack, give me a quick rundown,
Speaker 1: quick rundown of this game.
Speaker 7: Scoreless first quarter. We remember that that tough interception on
Speaker 7: the second drive of the game for the Rams, Stafford
Speaker 7: thing the red area.
Speaker 4: That was tough.
Speaker 7: But the Rams bounce back with the touchdown we talked
Speaker 7: about earlier, ninety seven yard d D drive.
Speaker 4: Cooper got his first TD.
Speaker 7: San Francisco answered with a long debot touchdown forty four yarder.
Speaker 7: Uh Matt Gay misses a fifty four yard field goal
Speaker 7: just before the half. San Francisco leads ten to seven.
Speaker 7: At the half, the Rams are held scoreless. In the third,
Speaker 7: George Kittle TD late puts them up ten. So the
Speaker 7: Rams go into the fourth quarter here trailing seventeen to seven.
Speaker 7: The comeback starts when Coop gets his second touchdown of
Speaker 7: the game, an eleven yarder. Matt Gay then bangs in
Speaker 7: two field goals and with about nine to forty seven.
Speaker 7: I believe it was left in the fourth there was
Speaker 7: a brutal, brutal drop by San Francisco safety Jaqueski Tart
Speaker 7: that would have kind of maybe maybe sealed this thing
Speaker 7: for the Rams. There was six left, like nine something left,
Speaker 7: and they were up three.
Speaker 2: We would have been in a precarious situation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. It would have been brutal because they
Speaker 7: would have had the ball on their over the fifty.
Speaker 7: He drops it, the Rams stay alive, ends up.
Speaker 1: It's obj. The next played in the soft spot cover
Speaker 1: too right, I believe so.
Speaker 4: And then Matt Gay bangs one in with a minute
Speaker 4: forty six left.
Speaker 7: Still give Jimmy g a minute forty six on the
Speaker 7: He throws a pick on that third down and long.
Speaker 7: That was it, taking the twenty to seventeen Rams win.
Speaker 7: We'll going to the super Bowl, but just stay at home.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First off, I got a question. What's Mickveigh like in
Speaker 1: halftime when you guys are down? Is he like guy, No,
Speaker 1: it's pretty Sunday. You usually don't see No, it's not
Speaker 1: usually not like the coaches. Once you get into the
Speaker 1: locker room, all the coaches go back, right, so it's
Speaker 1: to like do like make the adjustments, talk about whatever
Speaker 1: they want to make.
Speaker 3: So it's just the players in the locker room, right
Speaker 3: like cool down, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: It's oceans usually pretty quiet, there's a few conversations happening
Speaker 2: on like stuff that they're seeing.
Speaker 3: Except guys are like with their you know, respect.
Speaker 1: Line guys are with lying guys qbs. You're talking to
Speaker 1: past catchers exactly. Some like very communicating figuring out our stuff.
Speaker 1: Coach comes down, it's kind of like, hey, it's almost
Speaker 1: always like first half's over, here's here's the plane going
Speaker 1: for it, right, It's like very Derek, it's quick halftime,
Speaker 1: it's pretty quick. So he's pretty dialed in, like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is the stuff that we're going to do if
Speaker 1: we like going forward. And it's like, man, here's a
Speaker 1: quick quick message, you know, usually something just like we
Speaker 1: got like we're in control as black, We've got going
Speaker 1: on here, We're right there, and pretty simple and a
Speaker 1: whole lot of fanciness to it. Now, you guys win
Speaker 1: this game, you get the monkey off your back. You
Speaker 1: finally beat the San Francisco forty nine er. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: was it playing a Super Bowl in your home stadium?
Speaker 1: Was it an advantage because you guys got to stay
Speaker 1: at home and stuff and stay away from like.
Speaker 7: What how was that? Because yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 1: Takes away from the experience, but it's also kind of
Speaker 1: like a baby advantage because you get to be in
Speaker 1: your own space.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I slept in my own bed
Speaker 2: until basically the night before the game, which is a
Speaker 2: huge amazing Like I love that we were in our
Speaker 2: own locker room, you know, like it felt it what
Speaker 2: it did. I was thankful I had been to one before,
Speaker 2: even though I wasn't playing it. I was I saw
Speaker 2: how much of a build up there is to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and how much it lends it. Stuff like
Speaker 2: even when you're the game's about to start, they don't
Speaker 2: tell you, like there's so much more that's about to happen. Still,
Speaker 2: they don't tell you the Rock's gonna give them monologue. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know out there as you're on the field getting
Speaker 2: ready for kickoff. So like there's all this build up,
Speaker 2: but then once you finally kick the ball off, it's
Speaker 2: just it's the game, right, And so I was we
Speaker 2: had kind of preaching like, hey guys, this is again,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be so much build up to this, just
Speaker 2: let it be. Once the game gets here, it's just
Speaker 2: it's the same game. It helped that we were in
Speaker 2: our own like it was our own rhythm and any
Speaker 2: other game that kind of helped lend itself to like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is this is just like any other game we've played.
Speaker 2: Just go out there and play your game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's gotta be. That's that's kind of
Speaker 1: an advantage. You're you get to stay away. You get
Speaker 1: to have your guys in their own area, because half
Speaker 1: the time there's at least one or two guys that
Speaker 1: are yeah out passed curfew guy out in Oakland. Raiders
Speaker 1: went to Mexico.
Speaker 4: They never came.
Speaker 7: But like there's always a story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it is nice.
Speaker 7: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Teams just have to start, you know, owners of teams
Speaker 2: just you start paying seven billion dollars to build a
Speaker 2: stadium and then they can host the super Bowl and
Speaker 2: then get to the super Bowl when it's your turn.
Speaker 1: Or you could be an owner and you can have
Speaker 1: a city pay for your stadium and then have people
Speaker 1: come to your stadium that you own.
Speaker 2: That's a tricky, it's just a tricky, tricky path. I
Speaker 2: think you just make the seven billions, make the billion
Speaker 2: yourself and do yourself exactly.
Speaker 5: Men.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can do that, this craft owns
Speaker 1: it starting all out to do what it's up, Jackie.
Speaker 4: What's aftermath?
Speaker 7: This was wrap up this game. I know we talked
Speaker 7: Super Bowl, but in this NFC Championship Cooper finished with
Speaker 7: eleven catches one hundred and forty.
Speaker 4: Two yards, two tuds.
Speaker 7: And to make it even crazier, your third down stats alone,
Speaker 7: seven catches, one hundred and eight yards, two tds.
Speaker 4: Third down alone.
Speaker 1: I made a living clutch, Gene.
Speaker 7: And then the aftermath of this game, the Rams would
Speaker 7: go on to beat the Bengals twenty three to twenty
Speaker 7: in Super Bowl fifty six. Hooper Cup would win Super
Speaker 7: Bowl MVP Andrew Whitworth would right off into the sunset.
Speaker 7: The Rams would go five and twelve the next season,
Speaker 7: and on the Niners front, Rock Party would take.
Speaker 4: Them to the NFC Championship game the next season.
Speaker 1: Crazy awesome. We'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 1: Let's name the game. We got a third and cup. Nice,
Speaker 1: We're going to the Super Bowl. Suck it, san Fran,
Speaker 1: the third times the charm game or do you have
Speaker 1: any other ones?
Speaker 2: I'm partial to that third one, but I mean.
Speaker 4: It's get sand Fran. I'll say it for you if
Speaker 4: you don't want.
Speaker 7: To, but yeah, and do I have to say the name.
Speaker 4: You don't have to say it, but you have to
Speaker 4: pick the name. You gotta pick it. You three option
Speaker 4: three or you have any off the top of your dome.
Speaker 7: Uh, have anything off the top of my head?
Speaker 1: Suck at sand fran It is score the game. Is
Speaker 1: this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it?
Speaker 1: Stakes zero to ten decimals? Okay, the steaks of this game?
Speaker 7: What was on? What were the stakes?
Speaker 4: Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Super Bowls on the line of stakes are hot. It's
Speaker 2: not super Bowl, so you can't go ten?
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 7: Nine five five five veteran move knowing that it's not
Speaker 7: a super Bowl, so it can't be a ten.
Speaker 4: Veteran move.
Speaker 7: Veteran move.
Speaker 4: Star power in the building on the teams.
Speaker 2: We're in LA we got yeah, star powers high We're going,
Speaker 2: Uh nine to two?
Speaker 1: You got any star friends at our friends from being
Speaker 1: out here in l A. Do you have any star friends?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 7: Hex Zach King?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dak zach Zach King?
Speaker 4: Who's that too old to old? Who's that king? You
Speaker 4: guys don't know me? And looking up after this, thank
Speaker 4: you guys. You guys don't know stuff.
Speaker 7: He was.
Speaker 8: He was like big on vine. He does all like
Speaker 8: special effects?
Speaker 2: Yea cool really stars straight family gameplay? How good was
Speaker 2: the game gameplay?
Speaker 4: Zero ten?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you guys killing us on this thing.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't want to let you guys affect me, So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say there was there's a high level gameplay
Speaker 2: aside from one play in the fourth quarter that you
Speaker 2: guys talked about.
Speaker 7: Eight point seven eighty seven. Good score.
Speaker 2: It's good score, shut out Rob, It's right, eighty seven
Speaker 2: when you guys are just make some explanations for your
Speaker 2: guys to scoring here.
Speaker 4: It's like the name name of the game, suck it, sam.
Speaker 3: F it's a great name.
Speaker 2: Name, it's a great name, pretty good name. Am I
Speaker 2: scoring what the name of it is? Or am I
Speaker 2: scoring the cultural impact?
Speaker 8: So both?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 8: So like some games have an incredible name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just lasts Oh yeah, yeah, the same that.
Speaker 2: Let's go seven, seven point three three?
Speaker 4: What is that? What does that tell you?
Speaker 9: Up?
Speaker 4: Two folks?
Speaker 7: See?
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven five to one? Where does it go in
Speaker 1: all the games that we've done. That's a good score.
Speaker 1: It's a good score that puts us.
Speaker 7: Just ahead of the two thousand and two Western Conference
Speaker 7: Finals Game five Lakers versus Kings and right behind the
Speaker 7: squish the fish.
Speaker 3: Surprise at what your first one is?
Speaker 8: Two dynasties fighting.
Speaker 1: Each other to the torch the past the torch.
Speaker 4: Tony Romo was calling it. He was on fire, Jewels
Speaker 4: was convertible and that was.
Speaker 1: With a Chiefs fan.
Speaker 4: That's right, Rob rib I guess he's he gave it
Speaker 4: perfect tens.
Speaker 8: He wasn't a glacier though, So.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you kind of missed the game. It's nuts to
Speaker 7: do a list and have twenty eight to three b
Speaker 7: number two on any list, But that's just how good
Speaker 7: that game was.
Speaker 4: Could we miss anything?
Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 4: Where do you get the beans from?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: The ones that we're gonna try today are Guatemala in origin,
Speaker 2: the top tier stuff. Yeah and bye me back to you.
Speaker 2: The top tier stuff. The top tier stuff is a
Speaker 2: Brazil Columbia mix Brazil.
Speaker 4: I'm going to Brazil next week. All I'm gonna try
Speaker 4: some coffee.
Speaker 1: Should everyone go go check out Dodo Coffee Company. And
Speaker 1: it's on Instagram, it is, It's on TikTok. We had
Speaker 1: TikTok yet, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: TikTok we got TikTok handle. It's on internet. It's everywhere
Speaker 1: on the internet. Dodo Coffee co. Check it out, Coop,
Speaker 1: thanks for fucking doing this, man, stud. That was That
Speaker 1: was a fun show.
Speaker 4: That was really fun. Coop was amazing.
Speaker 1: He really is a sharp kid. He knows his stuff
Speaker 1: and you can tell he uses his time very efficiently
Speaker 1: and he takes his craft seriously, very seriously.
Speaker 7: The grind doesn't stop, no days off. He can be
Speaker 7: a football coach after it all. I could see that, bro,
Speaker 7: I could see it. He had some coach in him.
Speaker 7: How about uh, how about that coffee you guys were sipping.
Speaker 4: I wasn't It was good coffee. I need a sip
Speaker 4: of that after this. Yeah, Dodo Coffee Co. Shout out
Speaker 4: to Dodo baby, like I think they have they have
Speaker 4: a do they have a store?
Speaker 8: Dodo Coffee dot co.
Speaker 7: A couple of things, A couple of things to uh
Speaker 7: to touch upon before we hit the hotline. Here. We
Speaker 7: mentioned earlier in the episode, this is a great coaching game.
Speaker 7: A lot of guys on both sides of the ball
Speaker 7: that went on to become head coaches. Let's give him
Speaker 7: their shine here real quick. Raheem Morris, raheem d You
Speaker 7: see the rams. We all he's most famous for being
Speaker 7: a better coach than Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4: We know that he's also a head coach of the
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Bucks for a couple of years. That's right.
Speaker 7: Now, he's the current head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: And they drafted Pennix over one. That's right, that was
Speaker 1: But they also paid Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 7: A lot of money.
Speaker 4: You know, hey, hey, maybe it works. We don't know
Speaker 4: when they zig, you zag.
Speaker 6: So we drafted Kirk Cousins after they drafted Robert from
Speaker 6: the third and spind all those picks. And but it
Speaker 6: worked out, and eight large boys may not have a
Speaker 6: draft first round pick next year with a little Tampa
Speaker 6: in action.
Speaker 1: Tampa action, they did it. That's why they did it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what people say.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell, former teammate, current head coach of the Minnesota.
Speaker 4: Viking, bet you we get koc in here. I'd I
Speaker 4: like that coach and talk.
Speaker 1: I saw him on a flight once recently, like probably
Speaker 1: the last eight months.
Speaker 4: Say what's up? We said, we were sitting next to
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 7: That's hilarious.
Speaker 4: What are the odds of that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was may have been at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the odds are a little higher higher. First
Speaker 4: class guys, first class guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: When you start flying between places like New York and
Speaker 6: l A, or like Boston, LA, and you're in first class,
Speaker 6: I bet you sit next to people you recognize quite
Speaker 6: a bit.
Speaker 1: Not really, I try to get that pod.
Speaker 8: Pod Mint, shout out Mint.
Speaker 7: So I think I saw LeVar Burton on my those
Speaker 7: the last famous person I saw on a flight reading rainbows.
Speaker 6: More wait, hold on Kevin O'Connell talking about drafting quarterbacks.
Speaker 8: Little j J McCarthy, Action J.
Speaker 6: McCarty, Me and Jack saw Jim Harbor in the parking
Speaker 6: lot of the Roast.
Speaker 7: I saw Jim mid roast, mid joke. I looked at
Speaker 7: him like milk drinker, crazy guy.
Speaker 1: And then Kyle Shanahan was here too.
Speaker 7: He was wild, he was he was looking suited and
Speaker 7: booted me GQ over g Q. He said, I'm leaving
Speaker 7: my formal flat bill at home tonight. I'm letting the
Speaker 7: hair breathe.
Speaker 8: Baby.
Speaker 7: Coach Shanahan, Man, he's you got some swag he does.
Speaker 7: Speaking of swag, Daddy's Tamiko Ryans was also in this game.
Speaker 7: He was the DC of the Niners. Now he's doing
Speaker 7: some cool stuff down there and h.
Speaker 8: Town wearing the hell out of a long sleep.
Speaker 7: He is. Man, still can keep It's not too It's
Speaker 7: not skin tight, is it? You can still still definition?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 7: He's kind of play.
Speaker 1: He was three time All I think he was like
Speaker 1: a two time All Pro.
Speaker 7: He was SEC Defensive Player the Year, two time Pro Bowler,
Speaker 7: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, first team All Pro,
Speaker 7: and O seven he led the NFL and solo tackles
Speaker 7: and O sick. That's pretty crazy ballin' yeah, balling ball
Speaker 7: so hard.
Speaker 8: There's more and there's more.
Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel and we all know him, the whiz kid
Speaker 7: down there in Miami.
Speaker 4: He was the OC and the Niners this year.
Speaker 1: You think this is when he was in the press
Speaker 1: box just vaping, just I'm sure huge cloud, just vape central.
Speaker 1: No camera in that time in the box, He's just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go with the ride.
Speaker 1: One thirty four fo Ice, Hey, keep your eyes waight up,
Speaker 1: keep your eyes backside rangers person out.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'd like to imagine that's exactly how
Speaker 7: it went down, probably exactly how real vapors. And then
Speaker 7: coaching under him was another guy we mentioned this episode,
Speaker 7: Wes Welker. Wes Wes a famous backwards hat coach, backwards
Speaker 7: hat coach, receivers coach that year pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: And then I have to ask Colin Coward about that. Why,
Speaker 1: because Colin Coward hates people at the podium with a
Speaker 1: backwards hat.
Speaker 7: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Oh, it just went yeah. Colin Coward he talked about it.
Speaker 1: He hates when your quarterback has backwards hat at the podium.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask him what does backwards hat on
Speaker 1: position coach mean?
Speaker 7: Maddy p was another guy in the position that Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then to wrap it all up, this was a
Speaker 7: heck of a year for Cooper Cup. He puts a
Speaker 7: bow on it, puts the cherry on top with Super
Speaker 7: Bowl MVP. But we can't forget he was a triple
Speaker 7: Crown winner with one hundred and forty five receptions one
Speaker 7: nine forty seven yards, sixteen touchdowns. And then to put
Speaker 7: that in context, the last man to win a triple
Speaker 7: crown Steve Smith in the in the NFL was Steve
Speaker 7: Smith senior before that, Sterling Sharp before that, Jerry writes,
Speaker 7: before that, Glance all Worth. Then the list goes on
Speaker 7: and on. But in the MLB twenty twelve, Miguel Cabrera
Speaker 7: like yell with Detroit and then.
Speaker 4: Did Barry hit that thing a few times?
Speaker 2: Barry bones triple crown.
Speaker 7: Now he's not on the list here, yeas, Before that
Speaker 7: it was yeas apparently, which is sixty seven. There's a
Speaker 7: lot of coaches on the c M team. And then
Speaker 7: oh yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: And then the last horse racing triple crown wasn't Justify
Speaker 4: in eighteen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so pretty recently crazy. Also American Pharaoh and
Speaker 7: American horse talk. Yeah, I would love to get a
Speaker 7: horse racing I was.
Speaker 1: I never was like a big There's like guys that
Speaker 1: loved the horses on the teams, like Rabel Walker used
Speaker 1: to love, like those are horse Terry Bradshaw's a big
Speaker 1: horse guy, like those guys that.
Speaker 7: Use I think that he's racing, Yeah, Raindy Moss Racing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Will Fork had horses. Like, there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: dudes that like loved horse racing. I just like the
Speaker 1: movie Sea Biscuit.
Speaker 8: I'm with you. Shout out Elizabeth Banks from Western Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great movie. See Biscuit with though
Speaker 1: spider Man Toby. That was a great movie. Or the
Speaker 1: short lived HBO series Luck remember that one died.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And on that note, it's the hot line.
Speaker 4: Let's hit the old hot line.
Speaker 1: Remember that number is four two four two nine one
Speaker 1: two two nine to zero.
Speaker 8: If you had to pick one hit, it was the
Speaker 8: hardest you'd ever been hit.
Speaker 9: Which hit would that be?
Speaker 6: I personally think it may have been a Camp Chancellor
Speaker 6: hit in the twenty fourteen Super Bowl, But that's just
Speaker 6: me what.
Speaker 1: You got hardest hit? You think it's the Cam Chancellor hit. Well,
Speaker 1: that was a very hard hit. But I was expecting
Speaker 1: that hit. I got hit my rookie year when we
Speaker 1: were playing in Denver against Josh McDaniels when he was
Speaker 1: the head coach there and they had those ugly mustard
Speaker 1: uniforms on in Denver where they had like weird it
Speaker 1: was like Mustard yellow and brown and uh, Brian Dawkins
Speaker 1: lit me up. I saw a star for like three weeks,
Speaker 1: like I had to teach myself how to catch with
Speaker 1: this thing. And then also Ed Reed lit me up
Speaker 1: on a post route in Baltimore and twelve and then
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis hit me twice pretty hard. I've already explained one.
Speaker 1: I had j low booty too, I had reset button.
Speaker 4: What is Jay Loboody again?
Speaker 1: Well, I got he needed me so hard on my butt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a hemotoma. They had to drain my butt.
Speaker 1: I couldn't sit down for three weeks, like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been able to play if we won that playoff
Speaker 1: game because they like my my my butt blew up
Speaker 1: like it was so crazy.
Speaker 4: Man, good question.
Speaker 9: Hey, miss Reydleman. Is that question? What is your favorite
Speaker 9: route sing out that you've ever been? And also what
Speaker 9: is the most prepared who is the most prepared dB
Speaker 9: that you ever want to get?
Speaker 1: Favorite route? The Reader route. We went over it with Coop.
Speaker 1: You got it's a one man like. It's pretty much
Speaker 1: one man show. You win, like you can go It's
Speaker 1: like six twelve. You could take it across or you
Speaker 1: could bring it out to the bow. It's like a
Speaker 1: great man covered drought. We hit it a few times
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl against the Rams, and then you
Speaker 1: know that's when we first put it in. I love
Speaker 1: that route. And the most prepared dB was always throw Revis.
Speaker 4: He was such.
Speaker 1: A always on balance new formation wise, what you guys ran, situationally,
Speaker 1: He knew what concepts were coming, He knew your weaknesses
Speaker 1: like he was he was really he was always very
Speaker 1: prepared mental like on what was going on with the
Speaker 1: game plans.
Speaker 6: How much individuals scouting, like scouting against individuals would you do?
Speaker 6: So if you know you're gonna be matched up against
Speaker 6: like you do a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean there you get It's so easy in NFL
Speaker 1: because then you get all you got guys that do
Speaker 1: all the homework and the cut up. So I'll go
Speaker 1: and I said, I want to see every every play
Speaker 1: targeted to Revis or cornerback on third down.
Speaker 4: Give me that of this season.
Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, the last season, and
Speaker 1: you sit and you just watch if he has an
Speaker 1: offhand jam, what he does with his legs. If he
Speaker 1: does the offhand jam, is he does he freeze gate
Speaker 1: with you with certain moves. You know, you're looking at
Speaker 1: all little tendencies of what guys do at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and then also at the top routes. Does
Speaker 1: he like to undercut? Does he grab? You have to
Speaker 1: be physical with them. You can pick a lot of
Speaker 1: things up. How does this guy handle certain routes? Is
Speaker 1: he is he a game plan guy? So like, is
Speaker 1: he gonna watch my routes from last week? So if
Speaker 1: I marry my routes last week, is he going to
Speaker 1: run that route? And then I can combo it and
Speaker 1: like counter it with a different route. Like those are
Speaker 1: the things you watch.
Speaker 8: Is that mostly on like ALL twenty two? Or do
Speaker 8: you have like angles?
Speaker 1: That all you want all twenty two because you get
Speaker 1: you get the wide and you can see techniques the back.
Speaker 1: They have a far back end zone shot, they have
Speaker 1: a close end zone shot for line.
Speaker 4: Play the interior, and then you have.
Speaker 1: The deep end zone shot where you can see everyone
Speaker 1: on the field, so you can see how a guy's
Speaker 1: lining up. You know what technique he is on you?
Speaker 1: Is he inside leverage, is the outside leverage? Is his
Speaker 1: head up? That's the stuff you look at. If I
Speaker 1: if I bring my split down, what does he do
Speaker 1: does he get you know, is he is he off
Speaker 1: and outside or is he off head up or is
Speaker 1: he off inside? So a lot of that that's what
Speaker 1: you want to look at.
Speaker 6: But you'd never really look at like or if there's
Speaker 6: an angle that exist sports a lot you can see,
Speaker 6: like hand movement or anything like that. You want the
Speaker 6: wider you want to see how you can see that,
Speaker 6: and you can see and then you'll have like close
Speaker 6: ups too, like the guys behind the scenes that make cutups,
Speaker 6: they'll highlight and they'll give you like this his you.
Speaker 4: They'll have write ups.
Speaker 1: Each scout has to do a right up each player,
Speaker 1: so you get these right ups of each guy. You
Speaker 1: know where he went to school, what what his story is.
Speaker 1: You know, they'll give you background, like you know his
Speaker 1: power and his his his strengths are, he's got an offhand,
Speaker 1: jam strong, Atlanta scrimmage.
Speaker 4: He's terrible.
Speaker 1: His weaknesses, he's terrible his side to side movement. You
Speaker 1: have to get him running, you know, so like you
Speaker 1: can you'll see the right up and then they have
Speaker 1: a cut up for the right up and then you
Speaker 1: can go. And sometimes you just want to watch an
Speaker 1: overall game of how he plays just him. How's he
Speaker 1: playing the run game? How does he play when the
Speaker 1: balls not throw to him?
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: See if you can lull guys asleep and stuff?
Speaker 9: Hey, you like Cooper Cup all time.
Speaker 1: All time in regular season Cooper Cup man triple crowliner
Speaker 1: that season and five catches all time season Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: almost two thousand yards sixteen touchdowns.
Speaker 7: But when it matters most in the player in the
Speaker 7: big games, I'm riding had a great sea. I'm riding
Speaker 7: for my guy. He's as one year. What about what
Speaker 7: about a body of work? Baby?
Speaker 4: My guy's good.
Speaker 8: He's a stud. Oh no, either or just studs.
Speaker 4: We're different players studs. But I got to ride from
Speaker 4: my guy.
Speaker 7: Come on, man, gets the rings.
Speaker 4: Hot and ready the signs on a thank you.
Speaker 9: Time, yo. Mis uh cake. Grew up in West Texas.
Speaker 9: I got to watch Wes Welter, Zach Thomas, those boys
Speaker 9: at the Red Raiders. To you see that Wes Welker
Speaker 9: is the piller of the position. What's your what's your
Speaker 9: take on? That dude was a game changers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wes had a huge part of the whole slot position.
Speaker 1: But you know, even before him, there was Troy Brown,
Speaker 1: Dion Branch, There's a lot of other guys did it,
Speaker 1: but Wes was a kind of guy that was he's
Speaker 1: like a tweener almost like he was like a running
Speaker 1: back with his quickness and how he moved, you know,
Speaker 1: like he definitely helped create that position. Wes Welker is
Speaker 1: a pivotal for this whole slot movement and for guys
Speaker 1: like me that even got an opportunity, you know, guys
Speaker 1: that were stereotypically not ever seen as a pass catcher.
Speaker 1: He'd be more running back ten fifty or thirty years
Speaker 1: ago or you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Even then he's.
Speaker 1: Probably you know, he helped create that, but it started
Speaker 1: with Troy Brown, you know, Dion Branch, a lot of
Speaker 1: guys him.
Speaker 6: In that offense two thousand and seven kind of like
Speaker 6: put it on the map, but it was already there.
Speaker 7: It was there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just that was when you paired up. That's
Speaker 1: when you pair a really good slot with you know,
Speaker 1: top three, top two, greatest receiver of all time on
Speaker 1: that side that can just run and so you're opening
Speaker 1: up levels. And then they had Dante stellwar through, you know,
Speaker 1: who was also he was a one in a lot
Speaker 1: of places for a long time before that. So and
Speaker 1: he was fast and explosively, had Jabbart like, they had
Speaker 1: so many weapons and so many spots that you had
Speaker 1: to you couldn't just key out on one guy. So
Speaker 1: that's why he had Monster. He was a monster. He
Speaker 1: had Monster years.
Speaker 7: Every year spread him out And so opposition's cool and all,
Speaker 7: but this guy is talking Zach Thomas. Let's talk about
Speaker 7: one of the glass great neck roll guys of all time.
Speaker 7: Five eleven. Yeah, fifth round draft pick, NFL Hall of Famer. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he's a monster. Got out Zach Thomas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Sack Thomas. So I used to hear
Speaker 1: a lot about him just because they played. He played
Speaker 1: in Dolphins a lot, and we used to watch a
Speaker 1: lot of install tape of how to run certain routes
Speaker 1: and it'd be welker always on Zach Thomas and always
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It feels like, but man,
Speaker 1: what a game. Thanks again to Cooper Cup and be
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