1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: The internet likes to compare us. For some reason, those 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: guys were so similar. What do you think these reasons are? 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: I think I think it's a beard thing. It's a 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: beard it's a beard thing. Maybe our pigment. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 3: I never thought that once. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: On today's episode, we have the Triple crown winner, the 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: stud the Super Bowl champion, super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: talking twenty twenty one NFC championship between the San Francisco 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers and his Los Angeles Rams. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: It's a great win against the you know, a terrible 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: opponent that they've had our number for a few years, 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: and this is kind of the turning point of that. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: I remember looking up at the score and be like, gosh, 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm so Glass, not twenty eighty three. I remember paying 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so Glass, not twenty to thirty. I want 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: to talk with somem What do you want to talk about? 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: The shirt that you're in? 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 4: What's this show? 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 5: Oh? 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: This shirt, this whole thing, Oh, this whole thing. Games 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: with Names a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names. 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman. There, Jack and Kyler and were on 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the mission to find the greatest game of all time. 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: On today's episode, we have Cooper Cup talking the monkey 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: off the back game. That's right, twenty twenty one NFC 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Championship between the San Francisco forty nine ers and his 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 6: He's a Super Bowl MVP, Triple Crown winner, wide receiver. 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 6: He doesn't need any credential. 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 7: No peace. 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: Numbers galore, numbers galore. There's barbecues galore that store, and 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: then there's Coop Cup with numbers galore, stat chet stuffer 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: and just a student of the game. 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: He is, he really is. 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we get into we dive into that, We 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: dive into the San Francisco LA rivalry. We we dive, 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: we dive into However, one compares us, why is that? 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, find out, find out. We'll find out. 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think? 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: I We'll find out. We'll find find out. We'll find out. 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: And we also what it's like starting a coffee company entrepreneur, entrepreneur. 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 7: This beans miss is an entrepreneur. Huh, he's a beansman. 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 7: He knows those beans. 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 8: Coffee dot co. 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: And we got some content coming afterwards where I mean 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: he's got a particular way of making his coffee he's 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: a coffee connoisseur. 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 7: We were, we were busy, Tom Brady, he's busy roasting 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 7: some Ethiopian beans. 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: No, these were godmul Ands. And then the road to 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: his first Super Bowl where he bawled out and had 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: an MVP type game and you lost fifty thousand dollars 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: and I lost fifty thousand dollars. 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 7: Light work, light work, light work. 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: And then we'll wrap it up with hitting the old hotline. 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: It'll be fun. Check it out. 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 7: Let's go though. 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 5: January thirtieth, twenty twenty two, SOFI Stadium, Inglewood, California. 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Rams trailed the San Francisco winers seventeen 60 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: to seven heading into the fourth quarter, but. 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 5: With a trip to the Super Bowl on the line, 62 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: do Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup have another come back 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 5: in them? 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: This is the twenty twenty one NFC Championship Game. 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. Today we have a very 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: special guest. We have the Triple Crown winner the stud 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup in 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: studio in the nuthouse today. Welcome to the studio, Bro, 69 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for sure, that's Jack that's and uh, 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: why you picked this game, bubs. 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is a good one. This is 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 7: a good one. 73 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: I know you've gone over some other games. You know 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: that year whitworth, that one's covered. I mean this is 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: a good one. It's a great win against uh, you know, 76 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: a terrible opponent that you know you just love to. 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: You'll be able to pull one up. Oh, let's be fair, 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: they've they've had a number for a few years. 79 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: And this is kind of the turning point of that. 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was like that was you know, 81 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: we won the one that was meaningful, the one that 82 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: we needed to win. 83 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: We got it done. 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: So so hard to beat a team three times in 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 4: one year, yeah, so hard. 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 3: Have you done it before? 87 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: I think we did it a couple of times, But 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: then we also lost a couple of times where we 89 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: smoked the Jets twice and then we were fourteen and two, 90 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: and then in the like we blew them out like 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: two weeks before, and then we'd go the first round 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. They can't wait, game fucking Bart Scott 93 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: can't wait. They beat us in Foxborough. That shit sucks. 94 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that was sin we we had them 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: last Game of the Year that Yeah, and that was 96 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: we were playing for the division division title, end up 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: losing that game in overtime, but winning the division. 98 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: How about weird like conflicted feelings. 99 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: I hate that ship it is. 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: It was whenever Like we've had a couple of those 101 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: where we were in Miami and we lose the game 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: and you're pissed off, but they they passed out the 103 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: hat scause else like. 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: Throw the hat in your bag. Yeah, want to see 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: this thing right now. That's tough. It's a tough feeling. 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: It's a great feeling to have, though, if you're in 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: that situation, coop, because a lot of people have never 108 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: been in that even situation like ever. 109 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean you got you appreciate that's just 110 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: in that moment you just went. You just played it 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: all on the line to go win a game. Yeah, 112 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: especially a division opponent exactly. It's the worst overtime heading 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: into the playoffs. 114 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: And you guys have had you guys had that thing 115 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: where like, hey, Kyle Shanahan owned us for a while. 116 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: It's a whole McVeigh shanahan thing. I mean, I mean, 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: so we talk about it nauseum. Yes, did I use 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: that word, right, that's really good. I'm working on the source. 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: How's off season been going. 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: It's been really good. Yeah, yeah, it was. 121 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: It is probably my first off season having a full 122 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: having a full off season and being healthy out the 123 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: gate where I can go and just training how I 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 2: want to really since you know, the end of twenty 125 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: twenty going into twenty one was the last time I 126 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: had a full off season, and so having that's been 127 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: been great. Yeah yeah, I mean you just can't. You 128 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: can't put enough value on just that time and the 129 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: preparation it takes to get your body right to go 130 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: make this push. 131 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Well, people to put in context, what people don't realize 132 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: is when you're banged up in an off season, you're 133 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: not getting better. You're trying to get to where you 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: were at. And the league is so smart that you 135 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: have to reinvent yourself some my every off season because 136 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: there's film of how you've played the year before. So 137 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: it really takes a hamper in like your off season games. Yes, 138 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: when you're hurt, because you're trying to get this, you're 139 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: trying to get to zero, you know what I mean, 140 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: you know you're not putting anything on top. 141 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I've spent so I've spent the last 142 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: four years training with the same group at the same 143 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: trainer who actually this off season was hired by Atlanta. 144 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: So thanks to Rahiem for taking my trainer who can 145 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: no longer program for me. He's playing the he's playing 146 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: level five oh one ball over there in Atlanta. Yeah, 147 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: I mean draft analysts. I would say someone different, but 148 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: we can move past that. We were to talk about 149 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: that right now. 150 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: But they took they took him over Bill, Yeah, they did. 151 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 152 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: But what I was touching on was the off season again, 153 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: off again, all these rabbit trails off season I've been 154 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: from with these gusts for four years. When you get 155 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: to the end of the season, you go back and 156 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: you like you hit your baseline that first week, right, 157 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: and it's like you don't realize how much your body 158 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: breaks down the course of a season where that off 159 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: season you start so far are from where you went 160 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: into the season because there's just no way, like you 161 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: try to maintain things as you go. 162 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dang near impossible. 163 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: You play those these long seasons and your body is 164 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: so broken down, there's so much just to build up, 165 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Like you said, just to get back to where you 166 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: were physically, and then all the armory you got put 167 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: on to prepare yourself, all the conditioning, the things you 168 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: got to do to put you know, create some change 169 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: in your body to be able to take the adaptation 170 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: from this offseason going into OTAs and say okay, now 171 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: we're we're gonna you know, grind through OTA's. Then you 172 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: get one month to basically gear up for training camp 173 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: in a seventeen game season, yeah, plus playoffs and so 174 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: it is a it's a big deal. But yeah, man, 175 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: I feel I feel really good. That's awesome. 176 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: Now, what are some of the point of emphasis you 177 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: have going in this offseason to your game? Now that 178 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you're healthy, you can self scout, you could check out 179 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: what you need to work on. What's some of the 180 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: things that you are trying to get better at. 181 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think the same mantra 182 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: into every every year. It's a bigger, faster, stronger. I 183 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: think the mobility side of things has been a huge piece, 184 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: just being like coming off of the ankle surgery a 185 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Things that come out of that, 186 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you get hurt, especially something as 187 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: low to the ground as an ankle. How it affects 188 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: things up the chain and you start compensating. And once 189 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: your body starts compensating, things start tightening, things start loosening. 190 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: There's just a you know, you want to get your 191 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: body back into balance and moving the way it's supposed 192 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: to because like professional athletes, uh, we are professional at 193 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: compensating and working through injury. 194 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: When you do that, your bodies that's. 195 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Not optimum, right, vulnerable exactly, And so pulling back and 196 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: finding what that optim is again, that's been the big focus, 197 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: just in terms of how my body, how I want 198 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: my body to work. And then you know, in terms 199 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: of you know, skill wise, you're moving through into like 200 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: you know, the technical side of the game. There's so 201 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: much that you want to You watch film and think 202 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: every you look back and you're like, oh man, there's 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: just so much you can do better, so many things, 204 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: so many details that you can press yourself on and like, 205 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: you know what what kind of tools can add to 206 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: your tool out as counters to what worked, Like what worked? 207 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: How are people gonna stop it? How do I counter that? 208 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're in the point of your career where 209 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: you could watch film and you can go practice off 210 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: a specific look of how it may not have went 211 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: your way, and you could put that and play that 212 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: game in your mind, and you're probably at the point 213 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: where you're running routes. 214 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah exactly. I mean you get better playing 215 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: football playing football. 216 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 217 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: And I think there's there's a few different steps that 218 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: just like the visualization side of things, of where you're like, 219 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: you know, I'm I know, my wife knows, I'm laying 220 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: in bed, and suddenly I'll just be like wow, flinch out. 221 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: I look like, hu, what were you doing there? What 222 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: was happening? Yeah, I got to take I was running 223 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: this round, the safety was driving down, you know, like 224 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: it's like it's real. It's like you get to this 225 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: point where you're visualizing things to the point where your 226 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: body is like reacting to it, and you're going they 227 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: take the next step, and now we're OK, we're running 228 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: routes on air, and we don't run routes on air 229 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: just to run routes on air, Like there's an intent 230 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: find what you're doing. You're you're seeing, Hey, this is 231 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: how this DB's playing us. Let's rest run this route. 232 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: And I'm talking to Matthew, Hey is three carry it's 233 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: a tight carry out side, Like how we want to 234 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: run this route on this one? What angles are we 235 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: coming out at? So now you're running utes on there 236 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: and you're visualizing these things. So now when it does 237 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: come time that you're competing, you've seen that, you've seen it, 238 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: you visualize that, you've felt all those steps that you're 239 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: gonna take. You've seen how he's gonna play and react 240 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: to each movie you're gonna do. At that point, once 241 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: you've played the game, it's like, man, I've taken this 242 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: rep over and over and over again. 243 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: Although we used to call that DejaVu. 244 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: You practice so much once you're doing the game, it's 245 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: like deja voo's. That's a great feeling too. It is, 246 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: you know what, People don't realize the amount of reps 247 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: you put into a play for it to work, because 248 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: there's like twenty different looks you can have, and when 249 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: you practice it and you rep it over over and 250 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: over with an intent, like Cooper said, and you use 251 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: those reps once you get to game day, it's in 252 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: your SubCom conscience. So once you can react faster and 253 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: you get to use your athleticism more, because once you 254 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: know what's coming, then that's when techniques and your superpowers 255 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: get to come out. 256 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: Exactly when your when your mind's on, your body's off 257 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: all the time, right when you can get to the 258 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: point where your mind's seeing it so much that that's 259 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: now subconscious. Sean McVay calls it unconscious competence. When competent unconscious. 260 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: I bet you he's got some sayings. What other sayns 261 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: does he have? He's got. 262 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 7: All round up. 263 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: You gotta let him come, natch. I can't just start 264 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: pulling him out of thing. Keep it in. 265 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: We had this rep right here, Keep that in your 266 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: subconscious if something comes along. In this next part of 267 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: the interview, pop flag It, Flag It Cooper, did. 268 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 8: You say that you like would wake up like dreaming 269 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 8: about reps? 270 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, No. This isn't just about. 271 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: This is like a full on like I'm awake, laying 272 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: in bed, and I'm just visual it's it's playing so 273 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: clearly in my head what's happening that my body is 274 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: reacting to what's happening in those moments, and it's it's 275 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: it's it's become it's honestly become a problem to the 276 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: point where it's like, gosh, if if we're like my 277 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: wife's like laying on me and I'm daydreamers like that, 278 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: like she can get like like boom, I move actually 279 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: like her head's popping up off my shoulder. 280 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 7: It's a it's a problem. 281 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: So we've had to we've had to figure out how 282 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: to like, you know, balance those things a little bit 283 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: so that. 284 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: We're not hurting each other. 285 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: Hand easy. 286 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 8: I mean, that's pretty plugged iny. Have you ever been 287 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 8: that plugged in? You're dreaming about it, you're thinking about 288 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 8: it when you're lying down. 289 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: Well, I never had a wife, so. 290 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you that, but I mean you you 291 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: definitely when you're walking down the hallways you're working releases, 292 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: you know, you see one of your teammates in the hallway. 293 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: You know, you're passing by a fucking guy. You're using 294 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: hands and it's always, I mean, you're on all day long. 295 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize. You know, you don't become 296 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: the Triple Crown winner, a fucking Super Bowl MVP and 297 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: have the numbers that this guy had without doing ship 298 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: like that. That's like some Jerry Rice ship like on God, 299 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: that's crazy. 300 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: Who you're throwing with right now, you throwing anyone, matt Matthew, 301 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: any any any Jimmy goo op, Yeah, you throw a 302 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: jity go Jimmy a little bit. How's Jimmy been doing. 303 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 7: He's been good. 304 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: Is that awkward now that he's with you guys. 305 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 7: No, we don't. 306 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: We don't touch on it too much, you know, we 307 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: just let him be, uh just kind of let it 308 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: be what it ismate. Yes, No, Yes, he's he's been 309 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: great and it's been really fun throwing with him. He's uh, 310 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,119 Speaker 2: you know, grabbing the offense. Like there's so much new terminology, 311 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Like as close as Shanahan and McVeagh are with some 312 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: of the offenses the same ship, which is it's a 313 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: lot of the same stuff, but terminology is completely different. Yeah, 314 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: so the details all that stuff. He's just got a 315 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: lot going through his head right now. 316 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 7: But he used to go. 317 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: He was out there, you know, running the offense the 318 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: other day and doing good. 319 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: Awesome. 320 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: Now I swear was I we used to throw back 321 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: when you threw with golf, Yes, and we threw the 322 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: was I there the first day you were with Matthew. 323 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: Or I wasn't there? No, when you were with Matthew. Yeah, 324 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't there with you for that one. 325 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: I could have sworn you were there. 326 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: What was that like though, that whole situation when you 327 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: went like do you have any Matthew stories? 328 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 7: Any Matthew stories? 329 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 330 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, when he came in, Like how was that? Because 331 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: when you when you you had a starting quarterback, you 332 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl and then all of a 333 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: sudden it's gone. Yeah, you probably have relationships the National 334 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Football League players and coaches leave every year, but it's 335 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: it's hard because it is hard. 336 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: I think coming in that first so that first OTAs, 337 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: coming off of going into the twenty twenty one season, 338 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: OTA's got pushed back or come off COVID stuff. OK's. 339 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: I don't think we show up until May. Matthew had 340 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: just come off thumb surgery, I believe when he had 341 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: gotten traded to US. So first week of OTA's we 342 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: show up. He's at this point only thrown like the 343 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: squishy nerfball, like a you know, tiny kids, squishy nerf 344 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: ball is like all he's done. And that first day 345 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: of OTAs, so I was like, all right, here we 346 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: got's like, let's get some routes. And I think it 347 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: was kind of everyone. I think it was kind of like, well, 348 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: he's not like technically he's not ready for that yet, 349 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: like we're supposed to kind of we got wait. But 350 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: you know, Matthew was like competitive, competitive, new team coach 351 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: is saying he has to go throw routes. He's like, 352 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: all right, let's go throw routes. And he can have thrown. 353 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: I mean we go through a full session with everyone. 354 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: You know, he throws whatever, seventy five balls and I 355 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna one touch the ground, Like 356 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: it's just in you're just everything we just called. And 357 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: that's like when we when it started, and we just 358 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: call him long handoffs. Now when he gets when he 359 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: gets going, it's like, you know, you're throwing twenty five 360 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: yard deep outs to the field, and well that's just 361 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: a long. 362 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: Handoff now, which people think, like, oh, pro quarterback, pro 363 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: receiver routes on air should always be one hundred percent. 364 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: We've been over at that going west with some quarterbacks 365 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: where you're twenty eight for thirty seven, like what are 366 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: we doing, bubbs. But I remember I threw with Matthew 367 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: that day one of those days, and we we hadn't 368 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: even met each other. I think he just got off 369 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: the plane. I think we went like forty five or 370 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: forty five, and he could judge. He could judge you 371 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: in the air and because that's that's that's where you 372 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: can miss a guy. 373 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: He's on a deep ball. Yep, he's just unbelieved. 374 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: But this is the thing with him is I think 375 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: his like one of the best arm talents. I mean 376 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: there's just yeah, there's very few throw the ball. I 377 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: would dare say there's no one throws the ball the 378 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: way Matthew does. And I think what separates him obviously, 379 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: you know the arm angles and know all different stuff 380 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: and no looks being able to throw on any platform whatever. 381 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 7: But he can. 382 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 2: Truly, he's he's making his decision as the balls out 383 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: of his hand like he hasn't. He's making adjustments until 384 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: the balls over there like the ball like he's he's 385 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: dialed into it where he knows all that stuff right, 386 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: all every point of his you know, throwing motion. That 387 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: balls he adjustments right till it think comes off his 388 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: point of fingers. 389 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: So that's his superpower. 390 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: I think that's just well, I mean he's got a lot, yeah, 391 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: a lot that he's got going for him obviously, like 392 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: the ability to process is phenomenal, and not just pre 393 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: snap process, but being able to post snap, know what's happening, move. 394 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 7: Make throws. 395 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: I think that's that is why he's able to do 396 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: what he's done, is because of his ability. He's not 397 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: an athlete, as much as he wants to tell you 398 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: that he was an athlete, He's not an athlete. But 399 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: he knows how to move in that pocket so well 400 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: and be able to buy, you know, a split second 401 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: of time here or there, and he's he sits in 402 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: there and will take a shot, but he's gonna get 403 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: that ball exactly where wants to go. 404 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's tough. 405 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 7: He's tough. 406 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 4: He's tough. You remember what we throw together? 407 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 8: Do? 408 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: Ye? 409 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: How? 410 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: What what year were you in there? 411 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 7: That was? 412 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: I believe that was going into nineteen, maybe nineteen or twenty. 413 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: I was old, Yeah, you're just really gotten into yoga. 414 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 4: Well, I tell you about yoga. 415 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 7: We talked a lot about yoga. You do yoga. 416 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I do yoga. 417 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: Now, Jesus didn't didn't touch the right spot. 418 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 8: I guess old enough. 419 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: Well, no, yeah, what else are we talking about? 420 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 7: No? I'm telling you. 421 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: We talked about yoga a lot, a lot. There's a 422 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: lot of yoga, but we did we did touch on 423 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: some stuff. 424 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 7: You know. 425 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: I think one of the things that we talked about 426 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: was and I there's there's a time for this. I 427 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: feel like it's more for like a certain converseiver that 428 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: can do it. But you do a lot of the 429 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: almost jump stop routes, right Like, we talked a lot 430 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: about how you get up to ten and you guys 431 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: would run stuffhere. You'd run the like basic ten yard 432 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: in or like the ten yard out, and then you 433 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: have the ten yard basic to the corner, right. And 434 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 2: you talked a lot about me like change your tempo 435 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: at the top of routes. We'll do that stuff. And 436 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff you're doing with your feet square, 437 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: which for me is a new thing where I get 438 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: to rocks. And I never wanted to be like my feet. 439 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: I didn't want my feet on a surfboard, right like. 440 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to always be staggered in some capacity, and. 441 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: I was always different. I ran an orthodox that was 442 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: because of Wes West. You say that where you get 443 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: on their toes, you just and you you just explode 444 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: to whatever they don't do. So you're reacting. You know 445 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: what I mean by then, because reaction you create separation. Yeah, 446 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: and really to me, so like I'll go a certain 447 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: body types. 448 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 7: You know what I mean? 449 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: Body type? 450 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly because it is because I think there's it 451 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: lends itself not that sense you're you're small in the 452 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: NFL or in the NFL, you're a smaller receiver, right, 453 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: So like that body like those guys that are you know, 454 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: your superparer was quicker. You're quicker than whoever's going to 455 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: be guarding you. Getting to the point where you can 456 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: have both feet in the ground and have power off 457 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: both feet. At the last scrimmage, I use to come 458 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: to balance at lease all the time, where I bring 459 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: both feet booms immediately right to come to balance. So 460 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: now it's just like playing basketball, right, and I can 461 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 2: go either way. I want to react off of as 462 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: soon as I saw make that son of like bank 463 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: both your together. Deb's gonna react and now I got 464 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: both feet to be go go two way go. You're 465 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: doing the same thing, except you're doing it at the 466 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: top of the route, right, But there's an emphasis now 467 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: on the fact that you are now in the sequence 468 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: of the route. Your your quarterback is now hitched, and 469 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: you've got to make that decision now and go because 470 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: that next hitch the balls out, you know. So there's 471 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: like what happens early, I can now adjust through my route, 472 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: Like okay, I took too much time with the last scrimmage. 473 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: You got to speed up here. You're making that decision 474 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: at the top of the route. 475 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: There's that you've got to be right and get You 476 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: and Wes obviously we're the best at doing that. 477 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: Made a living on it. 478 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 7: You don't. 479 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: But it also it would change that'd only be a 480 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: man covered drove. 481 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 482 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: So Tom was always good at reading us and the 483 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: countless steps or reps that we had an off season. 484 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: He knew which way we were going to go, you 485 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, just through the technique of what 486 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: the guy's given me. So like that's that's that chemistry 487 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: that I'm sure you have to have you and Matthew 488 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: wrong where you guys are finishing each other's sentences. 489 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 7: And it takes time. 490 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 4: It takes time. 491 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: When you guys would do routes on air, right, how 492 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: would you what would the routes on air session look 493 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: like for you guys? Would you guys just do the 494 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: route tree or was it more in takeause I know, 495 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: like you know, No, Peyton was more like we're doing 496 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: three routes today. 497 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: No. 498 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Tom was a two minute drill you could go when 499 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: I was when I'd come out here to LA, he 500 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: would work me to death, right and he would be like, 501 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: all right, sub personnel, you're that so sub personnel zer 502 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: out feeing ride one thirty four fo ice, I had 503 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: a twenty hour bow all right, you're the zeneo would rangers, Rangers, 504 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: Rangers two flood slot. You know, we go all the 505 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: way down the field and we would be in the 506 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: red area and we'd do red area stuff and then 507 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: I'd score and I'd be dying because it'd be like 508 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: eight straight routes. 509 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: He wanted, he wanted to work. He wanted to see you. 510 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: I was tired, and he wanted to see me think 511 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: when I was tired, and so then i'd be I'd 512 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: be dying and I'd be like all right, off sides, 513 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: off side. He made me come back and do more 514 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: shit like he was like a full coach out there. 515 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: But it made you think while you were tired and 516 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: you were processing, and then sometimes you know if I 517 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: was in the slot, he'd be like, well, we safety 518 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: in his middle of his drop. You wanted to see 519 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: if I break. Like he was constantly making cques and 520 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: doing a dynamic session. So that's I love that. 521 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 2: I've never done one like that before outside of like, uh, 522 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: we've done that before for strictly conditioning. Okay, we're gonna 523 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: go eight play drive here as fast as we can, right, 524 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: And usually that's just like, hey, Matthew, we're gonna I 525 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: missed my conditioning today. We're gonna do it like at 526 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: the end of the routes, let's get like some quick 527 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: ones as fast as we can. Matthew's more of a 528 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: route for you guy, like he wants to get all 529 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: of his throws in. Every once in a while he 530 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: lets me choose some of the stuff and be like, hey, 531 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: I want because I really like going like, hey, we're 532 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: gonna run We're gonna run a corner route today, but 533 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: I wanted against every look, we're gonna get right under 534 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: cutting over the top, Yeah, ended exactly. I want cover four, 535 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: cover three, cover two, man one, help lurk. I want 536 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: to know you know, hey, he's playing like, yeah, it's man. 537 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: You didn't win at the top, he's squeezing you. It's 538 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: gonna come flat, like all those things. So now then 539 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: where it's like we can dial in every look that 540 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: we want and know for this route is not it 541 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: can look so many different ways, and we've talked through 542 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: all those things. So that that was how I really 543 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: liked doing routes because there's some tip behind it. 544 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: We would do those. 545 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: So that was more of like in the off season 546 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: where he was trying to get throws and he was 547 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: conditioning his arm and he was trying to run me 548 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: and I was young, you know what I mean. We 549 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: would go post practice and do a lot of that stuff. 550 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: So like we'd work safe routes, you know, back shoulder 551 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: throws because you know he back shoulder throws take such 552 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: a trust throw, but you still need to be zipping 553 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: at ten yards and you can't like you can't dictate it, 554 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: you can't show it, you know, And so we'd work 555 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: those a lot. And then we'd also work the flag routes, 556 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: bow routes where you want to lean on the guy 557 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: he's undercutting, throw you up field. Like that's we did 558 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot of that specialized stuff too. Everything was with Tom, 559 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: That's that was what the greats do. You guys are 560 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: clearly on a great path, you know what I mean. 561 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: That's why you guys are great is because you guys 562 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: practice with a purpose. It's not just going after to 563 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: work hard. No, you can't. You can't prove just going 564 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: out and working hard and just you know what I mean. Yes, 565 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: you got to find out what you need to work 566 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: and work hard at that and that's how you improved. 567 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 7: Yes, exactly. 568 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 6: So we designed, we made the show for this type 569 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: of conversation. So just keep having it. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 570 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 6: I want to talk with someone. What do you want 571 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 6: to talk about? 572 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 7: The shirt that you're in? 573 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: What's this sho oh this shirt? 574 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: This whole thing? Oh, this whole thing? What is this thing? 575 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: That's an old one, it's very old. 576 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: Greatest show on turf here that. 577 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 6: We're listening to it is it's a super Bowl thirty 578 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 6: six shirt Patriots. 579 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 2: It just felt like a little bit of a like 580 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: you didn't want to go all the way and we're 581 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 2: the one that I know you wanted to wear, but 582 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: the producers were like, hey, I don't know if you 583 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: should wear that one. 584 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: No, you want to know it was the only shirt 585 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: I had to have. Patriots and Rams so forty seven brand. 586 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: They've been sending us stuff and shout out and they 587 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: sent this one over and I was like, what am ina. 588 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 4: Wear for Coop? 589 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's probably gonna be a little swag dad. 590 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: He's gonna have some sweet sweet kicks on, some like 591 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: little surfer hoodie thing going with this beard all time. 592 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: How do I how do I make it like kosher 593 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: between us? 594 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 595 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 7: You know? 596 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: And so I picked this out nice? 597 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 7: You know what. 598 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: I know you've got another shirt? 599 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 7: Well, I have the super Bowl victory shirt. 600 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that one. Will you think of you 601 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: after the game? But I don't have like that's the 602 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: one somewhere here. Oh yeah, okay, it's just it's very deep. 603 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: That's good. 604 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think it's other by other two. 605 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, got them. That's good. 606 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 9: Now. 607 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: The Internet likes to compare us for reason those guys 608 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: were so similar. Why are we still similar even though 609 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: you're six one, six, two, five ten? What do you 610 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: think these reasons are? 611 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: Couldn't for the life of. 612 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: A little deep dive of how our round and completely. 613 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: I think I think it's a beard thing. It's beard 614 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: it's a beard thing. Maybe our pigment. I never thought 615 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: that once our pigment. Every white guy is the same 616 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: fucking receiver. 617 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 7: You know what. 618 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: You know what it is though, So yeah, no, that 619 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 3: is what it is. That's what it is. 620 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 7: He's got longs but I never had the long speed 621 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 7: like that. I don't have the I don't have. 622 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 9: No. 623 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was compared, So who are you compared 624 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: to coming into the league, this guy, Wes Welker. Yeah, 625 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: so I was Jordy Nelson? 626 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 7: You were? You were? 627 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 4: I played against JORDI. 628 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're better in the slot though, I'm about 629 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: he was. We couldn't be more different, Yeah he was. 630 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: Jeordie's game was outside vertical. Yeah that's not my game. No, 631 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: but you can still run vertical routes. 632 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that wasn't like, that's not how I've made 633 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: my That's not what's made my game. But now I've 634 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: seen a full circle now because guess who any receiver is, 635 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: Like any white receiver becomes compared to me. It's kind 636 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: of like a full circle thing now of like there's 637 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: there's the exactly this is It's okay. At some point, 638 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: at some point, all the draft people will get they'll 639 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: get some creativity and it'll actually start like seeing the 640 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: game and it'll be like. 641 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 7: I gotta watch the game with you. 642 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean, coach coach coop, coach Coop got the you 643 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: got the analyst, bro or well yeah, if that that's 644 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: the word analysts, it is analysis analysis. 645 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: There we go. 646 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: What's what's up with this? How is Pooka is? He's 647 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: been a cool addition? 648 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 3: He has been. He has been pretty sweet, pretty cool. 649 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: Obviously great story coming from a fifth throne pick doing 650 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: what he did. I don't know how people didn't see whatever, like, yeah, 651 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: you see someone play ball and you just kind of 652 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: know someone can play ball. Kyudo stuffs though for forgetting him. Yeah, 653 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: but he's been he's been awesome. 654 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 655 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a sponge. He wants to know, he 656 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: wants to talk football, he wants to know the game. 657 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: He's got really pretty good IQ. Like we came from 658 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: the kind of the same coaching tree where his his 659 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: coach at U dub when he was there was my 660 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: receiver coach at Eastern Washington. Oh yeah, so we kind 661 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: of had the same thing. I've actually been in the 662 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: same coaching tree since high school. So my my high 663 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: school receiver coach was really best friends with my college 664 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: receiver coach who coached my next receiver coach and coach 665 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: Yarbs going with now coach Junior Adams, who was my 666 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: coach in college. Geez, So I've been doing the same 667 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: I've been. I've had the same tree for for well 668 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: since two thousand and eight. 669 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: Did that Can that consistency help your game? 670 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 7: I think there I think it did. 671 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: But it also it did help me because there's that 672 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of similar thinking. But then the other 673 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: side is I'm like, I have to go find something new, 674 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: Like it forced me to go out and find tools 675 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: and talk to people and find other drills, find other 676 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: stuff that I want to incorporated my game because I'm like, 677 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: I know, I'm getting the same stuff from Yards that 678 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: I got from coach Adams, that I got from coach Edwards. 679 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: I've gotten from coach. 680 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: To another perspective exactly. 681 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to have another projectives, receivers and art form. 682 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: No one doesn't you do it different than it goes 683 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: back to the same conversation. It's like, you know, there's 684 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: there's Picasso and other artistise mil don Tello Raphael there 685 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: is so like, uh, there's all these different ways to 686 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, right, And so I I don't want 687 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: to get stuck just knowing one way. I want to 688 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: have some other stuff I can do and force me 689 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: to kind of go and learn from people. I remember 690 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: before the twenty my second year, before the twenty eighteen season, 691 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: It's it's Friday before we report on Tuesday for training camp, 692 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: and I'm with Curse Conway. 693 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's that the receiver? Yeah, from with Team Bears 694 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: s Bears. So I I want what year? 695 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at the point I'm with Conway and 696 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: where we show up on I show up on Friday, 697 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: Like we're easy to take me through some girls I 698 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: asks want to get, you know, perspective. I want to 699 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: see someone else take me to through stuff. A lot 700 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: of times I go with someone and I might spend 701 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: a few days working out with someone and be like 702 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: I grabbed one thing that I want to like take 703 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: with me. 704 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 7: Right. Sometimes there's nothing. 705 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Sometimes like man, there's just a treasure trove of stuff 706 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: that I want to use here. Yeah, there with Curse 707 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: Conway and we ran a curl route for an hour straight, 708 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: an hour shift a curl route. Three days before camp. 709 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: My toes were black. I pulled my cleats off, toes bloodied. 710 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: Gone every year yeah gone, you know, so you go. Yeah, 711 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: but I want to go here for someone. I want 712 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: to hear some something different. 713 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: And what was his technique? 714 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: How was it different because he attacked the leverage guy 715 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: or was he just goes straight up in the back? 716 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: We did attack, We did more attack the leverage stuff 717 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: in ters, like the stems and things like that. But 718 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: I don't even remember if it was from him that 719 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: I like pull this, but it was kind of the 720 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: beginning of this idea of like, as a receiver, I 721 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: never want to think of myself as as slowing down. 722 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: I want to decelerate right. 723 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: I want to always be thinking I'm accelerating, So even 724 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: when I get to the top of a route, I 725 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: want to accelerate down into the ground right, Like what's 726 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: the what one of the best stoppers in the world 727 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: javelin right? Javelin comes down stops right. So I want 728 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: to be like a javel where I'm running and I 729 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: want that angle. I want to accelerate down at forty 730 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: five and when I'm accelerat eating point foot down. 731 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: You know what Newton says energy potential. 732 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 7: Yes. 733 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: He also says every force is an equal opposite reaction. Right, 734 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: So if I accelerate down into the ground, right, the 735 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: ground is gonna stop me, push back against me. 736 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 7: Stop somewhere. 737 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: And now, as a dB, you see me accelerating from 738 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: accelerating down towards the ground, and you're backing up, right, 739 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: but I'm stopping. 740 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have to have your technique and right, 741 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: and you're not all that stuff. 742 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: Oh there's so much I was saying, like they're running 743 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: curls for an hour, get my feet bloodied. It's like, yeah, 744 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: I probably didn't grab a whole lot of stuff from it, 745 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: but it was like the beginning of this thought, like, man, 746 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: how do I want to stop? How do I want 747 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: to learn how to like cue myself to how we're 748 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: run routes to the top. And it's developed and grown 749 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: into this place where now I've got like these cues 750 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: of how I want that stuff to look. 751 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: And you know, it's a. 752 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: One hour session five years ago that's developed into kind 753 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: of a basis of how I do my stuff. 754 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 7: Now, you got to give a little shine of Curtis 755 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 7: Conway here first, uh seventh overall pick him in ninety 756 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 7: three draft. 757 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: Jesus out a USC. Yeah us So the Bears played. 758 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 7: From ninety three to four. Finished his career with the Niners. 759 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 7: El Camino junior college. 760 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 4: Guy before USC, Oh Camino. Where's that Torrents? Oh, Torrents 761 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 4: right out the road? Shout out to coach Curtis Conway. 762 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: What other guys you look up to when you were younger? 763 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: Running routes? 764 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: When I was younger, so I played running back. 765 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were looking at running back. 766 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: I was running backs. So backs, Reggie, Reggie Bush. We 767 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: had him, We had him on here. 768 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 4: We talked about the five oh five game stayed in 769 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 4: five yards against fres State. 770 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 7: Remember that where he cut back against the whole team, 771 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 7: We pulled the ball back. Yeah. Yeah, he's a monster. Yeah. 772 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: What other receivers in the league right now? 773 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 7: You are? You? 774 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Do you study any of the guys because I used 775 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: to study guys all the time. 776 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 777 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: So I used to be like, why the fun is 778 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: he catching one hundred and twenty balls? I'd look at 779 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: everything every catch he had, I said, what is he doing? 780 00:34:59,239 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 9: So? 781 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: I loved watching keenan Allen release game. 782 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: Hean Allen like the last few years, especially because he 783 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: has some injury stuff come up. Right, isn't like he's 784 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: never been a burner a burner. 785 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: Right, he's later in like later in. 786 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: His career, but you down still playing at a very 787 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: high level. And I want to know, like, how is 788 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: he creating separation? And I watched our watching the tape 789 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: and guess what they never tell Keenan Allen to run. 790 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 2: It's a go route. So now you're not moving great. 791 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 2: You weren't a burner in the first place, and your 792 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 2: team doesn't let you run vertical? How are you gonna 793 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: get open? And his ability to snap down to like 794 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: get close, to get open is unbelieva. He would run, 795 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: he'd run hitch routes against press and you get open 796 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 2: even though they never threw a go ball. Right, Like 797 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 2: as a dB, if you study tape and you never 798 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: see your guy go vertical, you're just gonna sit on 799 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: every route. And he over and over again is able 800 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 2: to get open. You know, make a ton of catches. 801 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: He's billy in and out of breaks. Like how quick 802 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: he is. He runs that little Colorado route which I 803 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: think they let him run on an option when it 804 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 2: was rather easy to run in the shallow if he's 805 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: got it or he's you know, bursting back out. Yeah, 806 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: he's made a killing on that. But you guys don't 807 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 2: have any of those two way goes to read it routes. 808 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 2: You see ours. We still to read it, but we 809 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 2: don't do it like that. We don't do it off 810 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: of like the shallow. 811 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 7: We don't do it. 812 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: We do it off cross routes. Yeah, so six fifteen 813 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: and you're you're the cross. Are either going across the 814 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: twenty four or you bring it out to the bow, 815 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: read it out. 816 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 3: What do you have on the backside? 817 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: Go go, It's just for you to get open and 818 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: fucking win. Third, you know, if you knew you were 819 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: getting man coverage, you can get it protected. You knew 820 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: you if they weren't thief in or money or rob 821 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: robbing you, that's where you go. Or you put a 822 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: deep stopper on one side that converts so if they 823 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: robber it, you can hit that stopper because you know 824 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: you got It's it's true, one true, one man shows, 825 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: one man show, fifty three yards to get open, just 826 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: throwing me the coach. 827 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 7: You gotta get in there. 828 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 4: Come on, That's just not how we operate. 829 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: Really, we don't do the We don't do that. 830 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 7: What it's got to fit the system. 831 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you a man, if you have a 832 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: and you guys don't play man teams though, no, we played. 833 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 7: We played man teams. 834 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 4: What man team do you played? Right now? Who's the 835 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 4: man team? 836 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: Are you just saying that because you came from the Patriots, 837 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: who play you know, just lay a ton of man man. 838 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 4: We didn't play man against you guys in the Super Bowl. 839 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: I'm third down, you did well. 840 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: Third down is always man coverage. Not always, but yeah, 841 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: most of the time is always man. It comes down 842 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: to man coverage. 843 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: We all know you did in the Super Bowl. We 844 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: changed it up your six to one. 845 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 4: You weren't there. 846 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 7: I was there. I was there. 847 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: I was watching the whole thing. Third down double Robert 848 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 2: Woods gil Moore on BC. You want to know it's 849 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: a sweet play from that. I don't know if you guys, 850 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: when you guys produce this, if you can put it 851 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: in there. But Robert Woods ran a sale route on 852 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: third down on our sideline, going from our sideline looking 853 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: right to left against the double team, and that was unbelievable, 854 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: unbelievable catch on the. 855 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 4: Sideline, but he sold it in. 856 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: He sold it in, sold any kind of stuck it, 857 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: flattened it out, and he had the outside leverage guy 858 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 2: and just shaved undernath the outside leverage guy. 859 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: Throw to the sideline. 860 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: I bet you that dB got murdered in on the 861 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 1: sideline by Bill. 862 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 7: Don't lose your leverage. 863 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: Just keep your leverage. We're yeah, I'm sure he did. 864 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: But it was a freaking a sweet route. 865 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: Did did be Cooks give you guys any info. 866 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 3: Go into that game? 867 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: Uh? Non't remember, I'm doing a ton, But this is 868 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: a tough it's a tough thing. We got teams, like 869 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: everyone thinks, like with all the players, it's it's too hard. 870 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 2: It's too much stuff, putting on a defense and offense. 871 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: A I always thinking about so much stuff. And then 872 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 2: you guys came out anyways and did something you've never 873 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: done any anyways. So it's like the worst thing about 874 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is you get two weeks don overthink. 875 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 4: Everything, overthink everything, and over prepare for anything. 876 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: So you prepare based on the film, because why would 877 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: you prepare for something you haven't seen it? War prepare 878 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: for the film for two weeks. 879 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 7: Do what they do team guys. 880 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: And then they show up and you guys did uh 881 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: you guys did the Uh Chicago? 882 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: What the defense you guys ran? It was? 883 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: It was it was it was it was blue zero. 884 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 5: It. 885 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 3: Was Fangio had done it earlier that year with Chicago. 886 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 4: I wasn't in on the defensive meetings. You guys gotta 887 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 4: watch that. 888 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: I don't pay attention to you, but you guys are 889 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: doing on I. 890 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: Just saw there was interceptions by Gilmore when third down 891 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: and it was needed. Us sitting there on the sideline, 892 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: like that's for the coach. 893 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 7: Let's go. 894 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 4: When mccordy ran out there and knocked it. 895 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So that play wasn't even in. That 896 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: play was not You. 897 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 4: Guys talked about it on the sideline. 898 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a That was a play that we 899 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: drew up on the sideline that we had run before, 900 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: but it was not part of the game plan, like 901 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: we got to get this thing in there, and it's tough. 902 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: It seemed like coach was a little starstruck, though with 903 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: with Belichick for stars. 904 00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 4: I love coach. 905 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: We played against each other in colleague, Like, I love 906 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: coach mcvagh. 907 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 7: That's my dog. 908 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: So we've gone and got hammered together and stuff. 909 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 4: But you know, he wasn't a star. 910 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: He wasn't starstruck. Little No, I don't think that's what 911 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: it was. He saw Darth Vader for the first time. 912 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 2: He's like, oh my, you watched any of these young guys. 913 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: You watching any of these young guys coming out, Harrison 914 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: or coming out? Yeah, you watch young guys. I watched 915 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: just as much as you watched like college football. I'm 916 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: not I'm not like pulling up guys film and like 917 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 2: scouting them. 918 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: I watched highlights. That's not what you don't really get 919 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: into out of the highlights. 920 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you see the catch at the end yards well, 921 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 2: you think you can see what his best is and 922 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 2: then you can assume what. But you get to see 923 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 2: the whole route all the time. That's the thing that 924 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: kills me is all the time. It's like, okay, I 925 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: saw you get off the line and then you disappeared 926 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: and you caught it. 927 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 7: Yeah. 928 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: Usually they just go routes in college for verticals. 929 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited to see it, though. 930 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: I've heard there's some really good like some good guys 931 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: coming out. 932 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: So I just got to ask one thing, what's up 933 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: with this red turf at Easter in Washington. 934 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 4: What's up with that? 935 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 9: Dude? 936 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 2: The inferno just on fire. It's literally on fire. 937 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 4: Does it get hot? 938 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: It gets pretty hot, it does. And then how is 939 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: it just a mess with your eyes? No, Honestly, when 940 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: you're when you're playing on it all the time, it's not. 941 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 2: So it's homefield advantage for real. It's one hundred percent 942 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: homefield advantage. 943 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: Because guys are tripping when they go on there. Yeah, 944 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: it's for sure an adjustment period, get used to it. 945 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 2: But like as I go back and watch, if I 946 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: see a highlight or whatever of the red turf, now 947 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: it's like. 948 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 7: Whoa, it's like blinding mind eyes. 949 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: But the but when you're on it all we practice 950 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: on it every day, it was just that was home. 951 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. We 952 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: got a segment. Let's go back to January thirtieth, twenty 953 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: twenty two. We go over pop culture. 954 00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 4: What was going on? 955 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: It was that long ago, But the number one movie 956 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: was Spider Man No Way Home. 957 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 4: Just watching my daughter, she loves it. 958 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 7: Every time we do this, always always a Spider Man. 959 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: I feel Spider Spider Man has been on somebody's done 960 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: fifty of these shows, now fifty Everyone from Terry Bradshaw 961 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: in the seventies to New Guys and Spider Man has 962 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: been on like seven. 963 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 2: Just keep going, you all the way back to what 964 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: was the og? You guys consider the og that Toby maguire, 965 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: I like you. That's that's so from then on. How 966 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: many Spider Man movies have there been? 967 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 7: Number two was a lot. 968 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 4: I think it's like it's like seven or eight. There's 969 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 4: no weird licensing thing. I won't bore you with. That's 970 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 4: Sony has I know Sony has it. 971 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 7: They have to do it. 972 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 4: Then we count animated, We count animated? Right, Yeah? 973 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 7: All the. 974 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 4: New ones are good. You like Spider Man? 975 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? 976 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 4: You action for your guy? 977 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 2: You like no, But my boys are really big into superheroes. Yeah, 978 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 2: so that's their favorite. Batman is probably the favorite Batman 979 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: is that is real? Yeah? 980 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 7: Real? These are real tools he's using. 981 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 8: Jules always tells us how he's more of a Robin 982 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 8: Man than a Batman Man. 983 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 7: Uh Dan, just as Robbie Robin. 984 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: The number one song was Easy on Me by Adele. 985 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: We like it. 986 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: I like adel Do you see that sphere? You see 987 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 1: her at the sphere. You see, you've been in Vegas 988 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: the sphere I was. I saw the sphere being built. 989 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: I've been in Vegas one time. 990 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I miss so much. 991 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell finishes his first season as head coach of 992 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions with a three and thirteen and one record. 993 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 4: I liked him at the beginning. It was you don't 994 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 4: like anymore. I like him. 995 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: I like Dan Campbell, but he there's a fine line 996 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: between reckless and aggressive, and he's tinkering on that reckless 997 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: side way too much. 998 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: Steering on what you perceive. No, it was like, no, 999 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 2: I've done what he's trying to do. He needs to 1000 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 2: coach the Detroit No, I've been part championship teams. You 1001 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: have to your team never went for it on like 1002 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: fourth and thirty. 1003 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 7: Yeah, those ones. 1004 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: What are we doing? Bros By kneecaps man, we. 1005 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: Gotta like them, but death I go to bat from 1006 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: all the time, But we gotta know. 1007 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: I really like what he's got going on there. Players 1008 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: are super bought into their stuff. It's it sounds like 1009 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: a great place, a really fun place to play. 1010 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: I bet there's a lot of They got a lot 1011 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: of juice right now. They got a lot of NFL 1012 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: coaches with that. 1013 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 4: That's a cool that'd be a cool place to uh 1014 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 4: to win in Detroit. 1015 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, they love their fans. 1016 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: Scream, liquorice Pizza, and the Matrix Resurrections were all popping 1017 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: off in the box office. I didn't like the Matrix 1018 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: that much. 1019 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,919 Speaker 4: You like it? No? I mean Matrix one was didn't 1020 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 4: do everything? 1021 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 7: Can't you Maketux like Matrix? 1022 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: I've seen the Ogs. Yeah, Resurrections, Scream was this a 1023 00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: new Scream? 1024 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a new one again. Didn't really cross my 1025 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 7: desk very hard. 1026 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: Which liquor Spizza? 1027 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 7: That's like an indie movie with Thomas Anderson, A big fan, 1028 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 7: big fan. 1029 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 4: Who's in that? 1030 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 7: Uh? 1031 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: Tyler doesn't seem. 1032 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 7: He doesn't like late era PTA, which I like, like 1033 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 7: most things. 1034 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 4: Pretty miserable. 1035 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 2: I've been working with him for going through life, just 1036 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: pretty much not liking anything nothing. 1037 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 4: Bob saggett r I p alright. He loved him on 1038 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 4: Full House. That's how old I am. 1039 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 7: Raised me bro I was raised on the reruns, but 1040 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 7: still TBS. After school was going on in the sports world. Wait, 1041 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 7: can we gotta give some shining to Kevin James bro. 1042 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 7: This is when Home Team dropped. He was playing Sean 1043 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 7: Payton man. 1044 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 4: Sean Payton who? 1045 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 7: All right, we asked the question who would play Sean 1046 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 7: mcvaannon movie? 1047 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 3: Who plays Sean McVay? 1048 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 7: Who would who would if Kevin James plays Sean Payton 1049 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 7: in this movie? 1050 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 3: So you're saying the standards really low. 1051 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, I like Kevin James. 1052 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 4: I like Kevin James, but that is funny. 1053 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 3: In terms of how I liked. They need to look. 1054 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I don't like Kevin James, was 1055 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: saying the standard. It was not like his acting. It 1056 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 2: was a bad movie, wasn't it. 1057 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 7: Haven't seen it? Who's playing Sean McVay. I'm struggling there. 1058 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 2: There's I know, I know, I know he's gonna want 1059 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: me to say someone that he has a ton of 1060 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 2: respect for, and like, I think he's actually referenced someone. 1061 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 2: I think the rams actually referenced someone playing Sean who. 1062 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was. 1063 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 9: It was. 1064 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: It was in the draft house, one of the draft houses. 1065 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 3: They had him there. I don't know, I can't remember. 1066 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 1: Huh, Glenn Powell, Glenn Powell. 1067 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 7: That'd be pretty good. Yeah, right, made that good look good. 1068 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 10: I just want him on the show. You just want 1069 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 10: him on the show. Jules who played Bill, who played Bill? 1070 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 10: Danny DeVito be a fun Bill. 1071 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 7: That'd be good. It'd be a fun Bill. 1072 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: You could do something fun with that. Danny de Vito 1073 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 2: is Bill Belichick. You can do some you can do 1074 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 2: some good stuff for that the trailer. Now, let's go 1075 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: back into Sports World. Super Bowl champions La Rams. 1076 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: You guys won it. Hats off. 1077 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 4: That was pretty cool to watch Stafford come over Day one, 1078 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl and the fl m VP Aaron Rodgers. 1079 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 7: His corduroy suit. 1080 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: I remember anti wide receiver bias. 1081 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you should have been an i VP. 1082 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 2: Bro Receivers got to stick together on this thing. 1083 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 7: You had an insane year. 1084 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: Didn't you break like six records? 1085 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, we were we were close. We were 1086 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 2: close to three. I think we were actually we were 1087 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 2: actually you know, we were eighteen yards off of Calvin's 1088 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: but it was but I mean it was the extra game. 1089 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 2: We did have the extra game that year still and 1090 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: actually know we had we had that the last drive 1091 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: of that game. That's the last game of the of 1092 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: the season, right, the last rid of the season, second 1093 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 2: to last We had a fly sweep that went for 1094 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: eighteen yards, but. 1095 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 3: We handed it, gave it a little pick. You imagine 1096 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 3: if it was just it. 1097 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: Was just matth You come on, would they have gave 1098 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: it to him? 1099 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 4: If he would have beat the record? 1100 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 7: Will give? 1101 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 2: I think I think you have to have it as Yeah, 1102 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers numbers, it looks like going forward from now 1103 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: though it ask to be asterisk as like a seventeen game, 1104 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: like from seventeen game thing going forward? 1105 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 4: I mean, was Aaron Rodgers numbers that great? 1106 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 7: For four hundred and fifteen yards, thirty seven tds, only 1107 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 7: four picks? 1108 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, good hundred, one hundred, eleven point nine passer rating. 1109 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: But he's got he's got those laying around his house. 1110 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 7: Lame, that's nothing compared to one hundred and forty five 1111 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 7: catches and almost two thousand yards sixteen receiving touchdowns. It 1112 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 7: was a pretty good season. 1113 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 4: By that was a fucking monster season. Pretty good season. 1114 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: National champions or was Georgia this old Georgia thing they 1115 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 1: go back to back this year, they go back to back. 1116 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 4: To the first of the two. 1117 00:48:59,520 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 7: Let me double. 1118 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young was the Heisman Trophy winner. Man, 1119 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: he's been in a bad situation. Yeah, I feel bad 1120 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: for him. 1121 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 7: It was it was. 1122 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 4: It was tough, that whole thing. It's tough. 1123 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 1: Winter Olympics kickoff in China, which was god awful I heard. 1124 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean people were dying of I think breathing problems 1125 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: with the pollution, right, and then I think didn't didn't 1126 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: they not have enough snow? I remember they had snow. 1127 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 7: It was it was a mess. 1128 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: First NFL season to consist with seventeen regular season games. 1129 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on that. That's hard, It's hard. 1130 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 3: It is hard. 1131 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 2: You know what it's the hardest is when you finish 1132 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: your sixteenth game. Yeah, like we should really in the 1133 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: playoffs right now, we got another we gotta go to 1134 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 2: another game. 1135 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 4: Young, we don't even have that feeling. 1136 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 7: That's the thing. 1137 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: It's the you know, if you're ignorant to the fact 1138 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 2: of like the fact that it used to be sixteen, 1139 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: or that it used to be fourteen and that's going 1140 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 2: to be eighteen. 1141 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 4: We want the we want the health and safety of 1142 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 4: the players to be in our mind. 1143 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 3: We're making about the health and safety of the players. 1144 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 7: It really, it really is the. 1145 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: Safety of the players. That's why we're gonna add one 1146 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: more violent car crash to their life. Yes, one more, 1147 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: one more, one more game of. 1148 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 7: Violent car crashes, car crashes. 1149 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 2: So I've heard people, I'm not going to name names, 1150 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: people have thrown out the idea of what if you 1151 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: did took out O t AS. 1152 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 7: I haven't started. 1153 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 4: Sloppy football right now exactly. 1154 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 7: So that's that. 1155 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: That's that is the fear right and innovation. You lose 1156 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 2: innovation if you have ots, you take out ot as, 1157 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: maybe you split part of OTAs, put it to training camp. 1158 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 3: Be you cut training camps. 1159 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: You end up with like a similar ish time where 1160 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: there's a build up of O t A s into 1161 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 2: training camp. Right, So like Oka's how OTA starts, you know, 1162 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 2: just workouts and meetings, then just routes on air and 1163 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 2: meetings and lifting and. 1164 00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 3: Then eventually training camp. 1165 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: Right, if you were to do it like that, but 1166 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 2: you were to say you were gonna go like twenty 1167 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: one games, so you add games, shortened the overall season 1168 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 2: of work for a for players. I'm not saying I'm 1169 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 2: advocating for twenty one games because that sounds it's a lot, 1170 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,399 Speaker 2: and then you've got playoffs on top of that. I'm 1171 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 2: saying that someone has thrown this idea out. Is what 1172 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 2: would revenue look like if you were to get to 1173 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: that place and say, as players, you're gonna get once 1174 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: the season's over, you're not going back to work until 1175 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 2: you know, late July. 1176 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's the problem with our union 1177 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: and us as players. They throw this little bullshit and 1178 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: in front of us like hey, guys, look, we're gonna 1179 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 1: shorten your practice. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do this, 1180 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,439 Speaker 1: and they slide in seven other games and they take 1181 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: all the revenues for all the guys. Damn the playoffs. Yeah, no, 1182 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: it's the same, it is. It is the same thing. 1183 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, you get 1184 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 2: to like the safety of the game and the players 1185 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 2: they're doing things. I'm glad I'm not playing defense because 1186 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 2: I understand the challenges of playing defense in this league now. 1187 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but when. 1188 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 2: You add in all the player safety concerns, the things 1189 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 2: that are being negotiated by players that we don't want 1190 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 2: to do that, then it's like, well, we don't want 1191 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 2: to you know what, don't test me for drugs for 1192 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: a few more weeks. Speaking at the game on yeah, 1193 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 2: that's there's like the things that like everything we give up, 1194 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 2: we're also like, or everything we get we're also giving 1195 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 2: something up. Yeah, but they're like laughing the owners or 1196 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 2: something that's any doesn't make any difference. Well, you know, 1197 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't think they really care about that. 1198 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: No, So but the thing is what what what will 1199 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: happen if they were to try to do that? The 1200 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: product will get so shitty because it's already been sloppy 1201 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: these last couple of years. As far as if you 1202 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: look at offensive line play at the beginning of each 1203 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: year I'm on TV, we talk about, oh, the offensive 1204 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: line play for this team, that team, that team, this 1205 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 1: team is terrible. Why is that you get fourteen padded 1206 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: practices in the regular season, you get what five to 1207 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: seven in training camp? 1208 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 4: And that's like an art for these guys. 1209 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: They have to have live reps in order to be 1210 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: able to communicate and do their job and get the 1211 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: situations that they're gonna have in games. So if you 1212 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: do this, the product is gonna continually get watered down 1213 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: and you're gonna lose fanship. So it's one of those 1214 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: things where they better not get too fast. Oh yeah, 1215 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: there is what is it like that, something like that, you. 1216 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 2: Get hungry pigs get slaughtered, something like the hungry pigs 1217 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 2: slaughtered exactly. 1218 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,399 Speaker 1: It does because the league things are so good where 1219 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: they're just gonna keep on generating more and more revenues. 1220 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 4: But they're gonna. 1221 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 2: See gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, they're the hungry pigs. Yeah, gotcha. 1222 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. You have to protect the 1223 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 2: product of the game. And I think that also comes 1224 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 2: down to a responsibility on players who want less and 1225 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: less practice who already I think relative between maybe you 1226 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 2: started in the league what practice look like versus now, 1227 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: it's like you're ignorant to what football used to look like, 1228 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 2: right because you never knew it. Like this is like 1229 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 2: the rookies coming in now, this is the NFL. They're 1230 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: gonna know forever, forever, Right, The NFL that you knew 1231 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: is much different from when you started to where it ended. 1232 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: There's a responsibility players to do something in the off 1233 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 2: season to prepare yourself to get ready to go. 1234 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: But we've been seeing through statistics that that response and 1235 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 1: ability has not been getting taken by the player because 1236 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: injuries are through a fucking room. 1237 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 2: Had exactly quarterbacks and this is where I think there 1238 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 2: There isn't one hundred percent. I don't want to. I 1239 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 2: just wish that more guys showed up ready to go, 1240 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,479 Speaker 2: you know. And that's that's why I think I've i'm 1241 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 2: i'm I understand this in terms of the the issues 1242 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 2: between the league and the players, and the product needs 1243 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 2: to be good. And there's obviously that you is always 1244 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 2: gonna argue for less work, the league's always gonna argue 1245 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 2: for more games. 1246 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 3: There's a middle ground here. 1247 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 2: We gotta come together and figure out what's the way 1248 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 2: we put our best product forward. Give When the product's good, 1249 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 2: the money's gonna be good for the league, which mean 1250 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: somebody's been good for the players. It's all gonna go 1251 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 2: full circle. But we gotta figure out where that middle 1252 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 2: ground is. There is a responsibility on players to show 1253 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 2: up right to work, I think, and that's where I 1254 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 2: think some of this stuff could happen where guys in 1255 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 2: the summer take I'm like, if you don't want to 1256 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 2: be ray for OTAs, I'm fine with that. But the 1257 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,479 Speaker 2: guys that leave all summer, don't do anything all summer, 1258 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 2: and then show up for training camp that summer, you 1259 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 2: get five weeks from OTAs to the tramp, take your break, 1260 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 2: and then get ready to work, because it's in your 1261 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 2: best interest as a player to show up, raay to go, 1262 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 2: to protect yourself, protect your teammates, be ready to put 1263 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 2: your best foot forward. If you don't show up to 1264 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 2: training camp ready to go. I have a hard time 1265 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 2: when guys get hurt, or guys do stuff, or guys 1266 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 2: aren't ready, or guys are you know, getting talked to 1267 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 2: by coaches will potentially get released. It is like I 1268 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 2: saw that you were in the Caribbean for three weeks. 1269 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 2: It's professional football. Yeah, you got this professional football. 1270 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 4: Guys used to back in nineteen sixties and seventies that 1271 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 4: played this goddamn game or mechanics in the offseason because 1272 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 4: they getting get paid. 1273 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: Its professional Football'll get paid all of good money. Get 1274 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: your ass in the gym, on the field, get right, 1275 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: and let's go. Yeah, it's to Belichicky. Yeah, let's segue 1276 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,240 Speaker 1: this in. Let's start getting into these games. 1277 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 7: Hey, before we get into these games and these teams 1278 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 7: real quick. Twenty two. Prior to this season, we had 1279 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,240 Speaker 7: some very notable retirements in the NFL. Drew Brees, Lashawn McCoy, 1280 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 7: Philip Rivers, Adam Vinnecciery, Demirius Thomas, Jason Witten, and yours truly, 1281 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:44,839 Speaker 7: Julian Edelman. 1282 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:45,959 Speaker 4: I didn't retire this year. 1283 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 7: That's right. 1284 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 4: I had to give you a little shine in that. 1285 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 7: Brother. Should we get into these teams. 1286 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 4: Tough here, Sorry, San Francisco forty nine ers, let's hear 1287 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 4: the Niner game team though. 1288 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 7: Let's love these guys. Grew up loving this team. 1289 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: It's better than me wearing a San Francisco shirt. 1290 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,839 Speaker 2: That would be disrespectful. Yeah, but I grew up. This 1291 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 2: is my team. 1292 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 5: Bro. 1293 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 4: My dog's name was Dwight and Montana. I had two dogs, 1294 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 4: Tim Dwight and Joe Montana. There were my dogs. 1295 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 7: I'm part of that franchise. 1296 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, no you're not, but you know, yeah, 1297 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 2: I understand. 1298 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 3: Like you've got your your you. 1299 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 4: Keep saying your dogs, Tim DWIGHTE and Dwight Clark, Dwight Clark, 1300 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 4: Tim patri with him. 1301 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,439 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 1302 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 2: That's saying you have your allegiance, Like when you're growing up, 1303 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: you have your allegiance, but eventually you you're a Patriot. 1304 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm full of full on patriot. Was a guy 1305 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 4: growing up was that you were a Seahawks guy or what. No, 1306 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 4: I'm from Washington, so I I yeah, I grew up Seattle. 1307 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 4: Seahawks were kind of the team. 1308 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: And then he got to a point where I like 1309 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: bedtime was when the game was over, so I was 1310 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 2: rooting for overtime always. 1311 00:57:59,520 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 4: I got that. 1312 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1313 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 2: And then there's also a point where you know, uh, 1314 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 2: Hasselbeck had his this moment and then Seawn Alexander, Shawn 1315 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 2: Alexander kind of like started just he was just kind 1316 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 2: of done. I think he's only cover Madden. He's the same, 1317 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 2: and it was it just wasn't really the same. And 1318 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 2: that's why I really had tough. I'm like, you know what, 1319 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 2: I just want to see good football. And that's so 1320 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 2: I kind of transitioned. I just wanted I don't want 1321 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 2: to see good football teams, good football players. You mentioned 1322 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 2: the Seahawks. You guys both played a lot like Steve. 1323 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 4: Largin loved large and he's he's the godfather, even though 1324 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 4: we don't play anything alike. But just being a white. 1325 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: Dude that got up and went down that sideline, jumped 1326 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: and got it, loved them, loved them. 1327 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 7: Call of Faber. 1328 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: He's like a he's like a congressman. Now, yeah, look 1329 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, he's like he's fucking like sharp. 1330 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 4: Damn shout out Steve. 1331 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 7: All right, So this Niners team, this was the fifth 1332 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 7: year of the Shanahan Lynch era. Bounced back from his 1333 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 7: six and ten season the year prior started this year 1334 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 7: three and five, had to go seven and nine to 1335 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 7: make the playoffs. In that last year of the season 1336 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 7: or that last week of the season, it was winning 1337 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 7: get in against the Rams. As Coop mentioned earlier. Top 1338 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 7: ten in total offense, top ten and total defense. Pretty 1339 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 7: well put together on both sides of the ball. This 1340 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 7: was the fifth season of the Jimmy g era in 1341 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 7: San Francisco, which is kind of Jimmy. And this was 1342 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,479 Speaker 7: the year that they traded up to make that Trey 1343 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 7: Lance pick third. 1344 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 4: Overall, how's that one working out? 1345 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: But they also got brocked pretty right in that same draft. 1346 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 7: No year, next year, next year, Yeah, next year. And 1347 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 7: then Pro Bowlers Kyle of used, Check, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle, 1348 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 7: Trent Williams, Alex Mack, Nick Bosa, and Laken Tomlinson. 1349 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: Alex Mack was really good for a long time. He's 1350 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: probably the best center for our generation. 1351 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,439 Speaker 7: He's doing the splits no way. 1352 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like really flexible. Damn I know that. Should 1353 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 4: we hit these rams real quick? Coop jump in anytime. 1354 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 7: This is your squad, brother h Cooper Cup became the 1355 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 7: first player to win the Triple Crown since Steve Smith 1356 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 7: in two thousand and five. That was the big headline 1357 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 7: of this season. It's also Stafford's first year in LA. 1358 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 7: That was huge. He had a banner year career high 1359 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 7: in touchdowns, in completion percentage. As we noted with our 1360 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 7: former guest Andrew Whitworth, this was his sixteenth and final 1361 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 7: season in the NFL. 1362 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 4: He went out on top like a beast. 1363 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 9: Love that. 1364 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 7: And then Obj joined the squad in week ten. Came 1365 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 7: over from Cleveland after his dad made those comments, and he. 1366 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: Put it highlight the highlight film. It's like a Bill 1367 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: highlight film. It's a low light right there. BROI to 1368 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Bill too. And then Pro Bowlers. 1369 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 7: We got Cooper Cup, Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, and kicker 1370 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 7: Matt Gay. What a squad? 1371 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's Pro Bowlers. Kind of weird, right, Team up 1372 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 2: North A. 1373 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 4: Lot of mattered was at the end. What's that mean? 1374 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 4: Team up North. He's got a bunch of names. You 1375 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 4: guys are underdogs always, that's they're north of. 1376 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 7: US twelve and five team won the NFC West by 1377 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 7: the way, McVay head coach and a lot of Uh 1378 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 7: we had Kevin o'connellosi, right. 1379 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 4: He was yep, how do you like koc He's a man. 1380 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 2: I really like him. I played with him, that's right. Yeah, 1381 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 2: my rookie year dream. 1382 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 4: Well he was cool. I mean I was a rookie. 1383 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 4: He was a second year guy. 1384 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, So you treat you will? 1385 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we we hung out a bunch. There's like 1386 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: a slap dick group. He was part he was part 1387 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: of the Well, we were just guys that you know 1388 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: that weren't starters. You know, they were the Patriots then 1389 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: they already had like it just came off of two 1390 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: years ago. They almost went undefeated, three super Bowls and ship. 1391 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 4: So like there's a group. 1392 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: There's like socioeconomic statuses in the locker room. You understand that, No, 1393 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: we don't do that. How was the share of receivers Odell? 1394 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 7: It was great. Honestly. 1395 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 2: He came in energy, energy and he's he's he is himself. 1396 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 2: He's going to be who he is. I think anytime you, 1397 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 2: I imagine I've been with her. I've been looking enough 1398 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 2: to be with the Rams for you know, coming on 1399 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 2: eight years now. So I don't know what it's like 1400 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 2: going to a new team either do you. But so 1401 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 2: I would imagine you come in like you're trying to 1402 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 2: You're in a new place around, surrounded by a bunch 1403 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 2: of new people, trying to get a feel for what 1404 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 2: the room's about, how we do things. And I think 1405 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 2: there was probably like a one week period where it 1406 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: was like an adjustment period of like, uh, we don't 1407 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 2: we don't do that. But it wasn't ever anything like 1408 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 2: yeah nothing, nothing egregious or anything. But it was like 1409 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 2: there was a girlth and then it was like, man, 1410 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 2: he's just a part of the team. And he was 1411 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 2: such an incredible teammate, brought so much energy to everything 1412 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 2: that we did, and obviously it was a huge part 1413 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 2: of that that season. 1414 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: He's got an aura, you know what I mean, when 1415 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 1: you got Odell, It's kind of like when Tebow joined 1416 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: our team, Like he came in and he had an 1417 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: aura about him. So it's it's always fun to hear 1418 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: about how they are in the room. 1419 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, how was that with the tibo? 1420 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, I've talked about it so much on this podcast. 1421 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: What makes Sean and Jay so special? 1422 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 9: Oh? 1423 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 2: Quick transitions? Okay, what makes Sean McVay so special? 1424 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 3: Uh? 1425 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 2: And all honestly, you get serious for a second. 1426 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 7: He does. 1427 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 2: He commands the room. That ane I've ever been around, 1428 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 2: right like comes in. His ability to communicate to people 1429 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 2: get a message across is a one. I think it's 1430 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 2: for any coach. If you can't, if you're not a 1431 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 2: good communicator, you're gonna make everyone's life miserable. And so 1432 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 2: for him, as from the very top, you're getting clear, 1433 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 2: concise communication that trickles down through through everything. 1434 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 7: When we had wit on, he said he walked in 1435 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 7: on McVeigh watching game tape of himself giving speeches to 1436 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 7: the team, trying to break down his own stuff. 1437 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 2: Why do you pause? After he said he walked in on. 1438 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 9: The gate. 1439 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 7: Traumatic effects? 1440 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 3: I was like, doing what. 1441 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 4: Linger for a second? 1442 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1443 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,919 Speaker 2: No, yeah, well, because I think that was a super 1444 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 2: important thing for him coming he was I mean, he 1445 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 2: was my age when he was head coach of the 1446 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,479 Speaker 2: la As you're you're stepping in, you're my age, going 1447 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 2: in like I can understand being critical and wanting to 1448 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 2: learn from all this. This is your first time leading 1449 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 2: team meeting as players, we can opportunity to watch ourselves 1450 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 2: and learn. And you know, I think he wanted to 1451 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 2: learn and be the best that he could be for us. 1452 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 2: You know, I think that's uh, he takes that mentality. 1453 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 2: He is very critical of himself and wants to be 1454 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to let people down, and you know, 1455 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 2: that's kind of it's hard for people, and I think 1456 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 2: that's kind of what drives a lot of the things 1457 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 2: that he does. 1458 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I love that he he like just outside looking in 1459 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 1: and I mean, I've gone to practice, but I'm not there. 1460 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: But you could just tell he's got just leadership quality. 1461 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: He's a leader of men. 1462 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 9: Is that? 1463 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: And then the communication thing is is so. 1464 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 4: So important in this generation. Yeah, just you know what 1465 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 4: I mean. 1466 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: And he knows how to do He seems like he 1467 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: knows how to be a chameleon with each guy to 1468 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 1: make them get their best. 1469 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, find find ways to motivate people and connect 1470 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 2: with them. 1471 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 3: I think he does a he does a really good 1472 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 3: job of that. 1473 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 4: Yeah he does. 1474 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Now, one guy, you're probably gonna be missing that was 1475 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: on this team Aaron Donald, I mean that's how how 1476 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: like special was just to watch him in practice. 1477 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I mean, there's nothing like what he was 1478 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 2: able to do. The chances that his it was really like, 1479 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,919 Speaker 2: his ability to choose win, to take risks and take 1480 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 2: his shot was unbelievable because of his preparation, because of 1481 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 2: the you know, his preparation going into games. And then 1482 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 2: it was when he did take his shot and it 1483 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 2: wasn't there his ability to then counter and like close 1484 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 2: gaps still, right, he'd play out of his gap more 1485 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 2: than anyone ever, but he would make sure that he 1486 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 2: was doing his job and closing it if he was 1487 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 2: an issue, you know, like yeah, but he wasn't he 1488 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 2: two gap, but he'd straight up he'd run around you. 1489 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: He's so fast, so quick, Like it's like I'm gonna 1490 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 2: get past you and I'm gonna make things around on 1491 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 2: the other side. 1492 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 4: Now, was he a guy that like lived in the 1493 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 4: weight room? He was alway, Oh, he's ridiculous. 1494 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 2: He I think so AD's thing like he secretly wants 1495 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 2: to be like h Like he wants to be Dwayne Johnson. 1496 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 2: That's where that's where his Yeah, he wants to be that. 1497 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 2: He wants to be the rock and he's so he 1498 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 2: spends so much time lifting and it's not even like 1499 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 2: like functional lifts sometimes, you know, it's. 1500 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 7: I've actually worked out with him. 1501 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 2: I went and worked out with him one time, so 1502 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, the off season's like you get 1503 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 2: to work on them together. Tells me the toime show 1504 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 2: up an hour and a half straight of arms an 1505 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,439 Speaker 2: hour and a half, you amy muscles up in your arms, 1506 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 2: not there's not a lot like seven Yeah, that's saying 1507 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 2: like bicep, tricep, Yeah, shoulder maybe if you count that 1508 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 2: as part of your arm and the forums for. 1509 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 3: An hour and a half. 1510 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 4: I mean he looked like it. 1511 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, you don't need to 1512 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,479 Speaker 2: be doing arms for an. 1513 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 7: Hour and a half. 1514 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,959 Speaker 4: No, but when your baby rhino, you do that, dude 1515 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 4: look like a straight rhino. 1516 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 3: He is unbelievably strong. 1517 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 2: And then obviously all the things on top of it 1518 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 2: that you have as a football player where there's like 1519 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 2: he just loves working out, loves lifting, and that just 1520 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 2: it was an extra little part on top of the 1521 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 2: fact that he is, you know, I think the best 1522 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 2: defensive player of all time and the skills and all 1523 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 2: the stuff stuff that he had going for him. 1524 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 6: In that regard, how many dtackles in the history of 1525 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 6: the NFL have had abs, it's. 1526 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 7: Not a lot a lot. 1527 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Who's the unsung hero of this game though, before we 1528 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: get into the. 1529 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 2: Game unsung here of this game for the team, for 1530 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 2: the team, it's hard to say. There are so many 1531 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 2: guys that made plays throughout that entire game. I'm not 1532 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 2: sure if I choose one person it was. I think 1533 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 2: it was just a full team win. Yeah, everyone just 1534 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 2: everyone did their job and it was a good when 1535 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 2: that when they needed to be they were it. 1536 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 7: Will make plays, definitely, don't. 1537 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 3: I don't have anything I like that though. 1538 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 1: I like when you when you win against the team 1539 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 1: and they were your they were your kryptonite for a while. 1540 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 9: Bro. 1541 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 1: That's big to do in the NFC Championship after losing 1542 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: them twice in the same year, Like, there's a lot 1543 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: to prove. Everyone had to do their fucking job to 1544 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 1: get that wine to go to the next game and 1545 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: play the last game of the year, the best game 1546 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 1: of the year, Amen. 1547 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 7: Lead game lead up. 1548 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about how we got to this game. 1549 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 7: It was pretty decent amen. The The Niners come in 1550 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 7: as a sixth seed, the Rams come in as the 1551 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 7: four seed. 1552 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 4: The path to get there the. 1553 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,640 Speaker 7: Niners had to win at Dallas and at Lambeau in 1554 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 7: the snow. 1555 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 6: It's like an It was MVP Jimmy G. 1556 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 4: Jimmy G takes out the MVP. Baby man, what we 1557 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 4: do Rogers jokes and the Rams their path was pretty 1558 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 4: crazy as well. 1559 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 7: Easy win on the road in Arizona when thirty four 1560 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 7: to eleven, and then the crazy game down in Tampa 1561 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 7: taking out Brady Cooper coming through huge at the end. 1562 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 2: That's got to be So is that January twenty third, 1563 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: that was Covers Area. Yeah, Jerny twenty third might be 1564 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 2: the best day in history for football because you guys 1565 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 2: more the game that was after that, that was the 1566 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Chiefs Bills game. That's right, Oh, that was like right 1567 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 2: after that game. 1568 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 4: Holy smokes. 1569 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Divisional round always crazy. That's a fun weekend when you 1570 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: get out and you start to enjoy this like you're 1571 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 1: in it, so you're still doing it, like, oh my god, 1572 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: Divisional but nothing like championships. Saturday is awesome too. 1573 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I think I think Coop just just brought 1574 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 4: up a point. 1575 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 7: We got to do that as an episode that day 1576 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 7: like a grand finale, the greatest day in football in 1577 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 7: recent history. 1578 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 2: It would be it would be competitive that game that 1579 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,839 Speaker 2: day insane. 1580 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 7: Those are two of the. 1581 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Wildest games because I thought that obviously both different too, 1582 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 2: like one of them were just a story of two 1583 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 2: different halves. 1584 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 3: And then you know that game, which was just back 1585 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,560 Speaker 3: and forth, back and forth. 1586 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 4: Created an overtime role. 1587 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay game I think at one point was the 1588 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 2: game twenty seventy three. I believe we were up at 1589 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 2: one point, we were up. We were up a lot, 1590 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 2: and we turned the ball over right before halftime. 1591 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 9: Too. 1592 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have money on them beating you guys. I 1593 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 1: had money of them going to the super Bowl on Tampa. 1594 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1595 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 4: I put it like a what do you lose fifty k? 1596 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 4: Fifty k? 1597 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 8: We were cursing your name a little zero. 1598 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 1: Guess that's what we're gonna do with zero, not cover 1599 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: the fucking crown winner. 1600 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 7: I believe that call. Let's put a. 1601 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 1: Safety on the triple crown winner, folks. 1602 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 4: I believe that the safety crowd winner. 1603 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Fifty thous kids going to junior college. 1604 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 7: Now, no, you. 1605 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 4: Are right, you are right, Cooper, twenty seven to three. 1606 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 2: So with I remember looking up at the score and 1607 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 2: being like, gosh, I'm so glass, not twenty eight to three. 1608 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 2: I remember, Hey, oh gosh, so last not twenty to three. 1609 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 7: Oh my god, that's the quarter of the episode. Yeah, 1610 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 7: with seven minutes left, y'all went up twenty in the 1611 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:21,679 Speaker 7: third quarter. 1612 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I remember being like that, being a sans. 1613 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 2: Let's jump back into the game lead. Yeah, yeah, all right, 1614 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 2: back to the lead up of the game at hand. Here, 1615 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 2: the Niners, as we mentioned before, had won both regular 1616 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 2: season matchups. Kyle Shanahan kind of had coach mcvay's number 1617 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 2: one six in a row against him coming into this one, 1618 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:42,480 Speaker 2: which is crazy. 1619 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 7: And the Niners front was insane. This playoff run five 1620 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 7: sacks in both the wild card and Divisional round games 1621 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 7: for him, that was crazy. And also that Niners playoff 1622 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 7: run against the Cowboys that was the first meeting since 1623 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 7: ninety four, rekindling the old. 1624 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 4: Niners Cowboys rivalry which you remember growing up. 1625 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 7: Jewels hated the Cowboys, and then crazy This game at 1626 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 7: hand we're talking about today, the title game. Michael Buffer 1627 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 7: did the opening kickoff. Let's get ready to rumble, guy, 1628 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 7: I do remember that wild What was up with this 1629 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 7: era of guys like La. 1630 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 4: La they bring out, they bring out the stars. 1631 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 2: The Rock opened up a game, then the Rock open 1632 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 2: up the super the Niners roster. Yeah this they went 1633 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 2: on a run here at one point over the last 1634 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 2: three years. I think we kindt of like, they're like 1635 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 2: seven first rounders on the defensive line. Oh yeah, but 1636 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 2: they just up front was man was pretty good. 1637 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 4: They had like two number one overall picks or something. 1638 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:41,720 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1639 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Now, you guys played this going in, going into the postseason, 1640 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 1: you played them twice. Did you guys really watch those 1641 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,760 Speaker 1: games to prepare or. 1642 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 7: We did so? 1643 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 2: This first actually this first, I think this first touchdown 1644 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,680 Speaker 2: here in the second quarter, the sixteen yard pass, yep, 1645 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 2: it was in the Yeah, it was the corner, yes, 1646 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 2: but it was the cover two corner route that we ran. 1647 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,759 Speaker 2: And we'd actually seen the way that they were playing 1648 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 2: some stuff, uh to the backside on in the last 1649 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 2: game of the year. They were getting lazy at safety 1650 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 2: covering what felt like a backside route, and so we 1651 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 2: put this based a really similar concept up but kept 1652 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 2: put to the front side. Let Matthew kind of mess 1653 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 2: with that safety where you can look eyes away, hold it, 1654 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 2: you can put a little bit extra on the corner route. 1655 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 2: And then Matthew was able to just dart that thing 1656 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 2: in there. 1657 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,480 Speaker 1: And the running back goes out to the flat. 1658 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, try to get hold hold the guy down 1659 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 2: the corner. Yeah, we had a few things. Actually, Koc 1660 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 2: I believe was the one that had kind of caught 1661 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 2: that and installed that play for us. 1662 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: Now in your second touchdown pass, were you supposed to 1663 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: break out and then go and then he just beat 1664 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 1: him and just went. 1665 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,760 Speaker 2: So the second one was against Kwan, right, So that's 1666 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,719 Speaker 2: a man play that we had called. 1667 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,799 Speaker 3: And I'm not sure what happened. 1668 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 2: Something got messed up out of clock was running down 1669 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 2: or what, and we we called it. 1670 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,640 Speaker 3: We had a second play on it. 1671 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 2: We're like, hey, if we get manned, run if we don't, 1672 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 2: if we got zoned, get get out of the play. 1673 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: But we snapped the ball and they're in cover four, 1674 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 2: so we're in a we're in a packed formation. Were 1675 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 2: a tight bunch, right, and normally yes, I'm supposed to 1676 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 2: like wheel this thing out and count and like really, 1677 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 2: it's like it's like a stutter. It's really a play 1678 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 2: that we ran later on, or really a similar play 1679 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,720 Speaker 2: we ran in the end of the the at the 1680 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 2: end of the season against Jimmy Warves. Little little stutter 1681 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 2: go it's a little stutter fade, is what it really is. 1682 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:47,800 Speaker 2: Like clear everything out and then we kind of stutter 1683 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 2: fade from the slot they go. They go cover four 1684 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 2: and like, shoot, okay, now this this changes this route, 1685 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 2: now cover four. If you got someone quick to the flat, 1686 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,600 Speaker 2: I can disappear because I know if that corner attaches 1687 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 2: to this, you know, this little. 1688 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 3: Short post route that's coming right. 1689 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,680 Speaker 2: If I get that that corner attaches and I out 1690 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 2: leveraged the flat player, there's a chance that you can 1691 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 2: kind of like foop gap him down right back behind him. 1692 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:15,680 Speaker 2: So I kind of sped it up to kind of 1693 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 2: basically kind of get lost outside of Kawan Williams and 1694 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 2: try wheel up to the front of Pilon And because 1695 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 2: I know where Matthew just did a great job game 1696 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 2: that ball. I mean, Kawan is like looking this way 1697 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 2: and the balls behind his head now on the other 1698 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 2: side just happened to be a good spot by Matthew. 1699 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, one of those ones where it's not exactly 1700 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 2: what you're calling it for. But you find a way 1701 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 2: to kind of make it. 1702 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 4: We used to have a play like that called re 1703 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 4: pump that was specifically for cover four because once you 1704 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,600 Speaker 4: go out and you run it out, that guy's gonna go, 1705 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,720 Speaker 4: and then you have the you have the post that's 1706 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 4: gonna collect them. 1707 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,000 Speaker 3: You just got to make sure you grab that corner. 1708 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,640 Speaker 1: But you got to make sure you grab the linebacker 1709 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 1: and make him. You got to be patient with it. 1710 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 2: Oh you're saying you, yeah, I'm saying, but the corner 1711 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 2: outside and grab the corner first. 1712 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 7: That if the corner lets him go, you bang. 1713 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,439 Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, corners off and then if that corner touches 1714 01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 2: you're trying to like high low and high low. 1715 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 7: It's also a good cover six meter, which is cover three. 1716 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 7: Cover six is not cover three. 1717 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 1: We will we use will for people out there. Cover 1718 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: six is to the strength of the defense. We didn't 1719 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: bring the safety to the tight end. That's what we 1720 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 1: used to call cover six sixty six six. Cover three 1721 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: is if he went away from Oh really yeah, so 1722 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 1: if the safety went away from the passing strength. Yes, 1723 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: called six was a version of three. Well, it's a 1724 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,919 Speaker 1: version of three. It's just the guy goes different side. Yeah, 1725 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 1: but it's the same. We had the same They had 1726 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,799 Speaker 1: the same responsibility. Interesting, Jack, give me a quick rundown, 1727 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: quick rundown of this game. 1728 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 7: Scoreless first quarter. We remember that that tough interception on 1729 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 7: the second drive of the game for the Rams, Stafford 1730 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 7: thing the red area. 1731 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 4: That was tough. 1732 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,639 Speaker 7: But the Rams bounce back with the touchdown we talked 1733 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 7: about earlier, ninety seven yard d D drive. 1734 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 4: Cooper got his first TD. 1735 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 7: San Francisco answered with a long debot touchdown forty four yarder. 1736 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 7: Uh Matt Gay misses a fifty four yard field goal 1737 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,679 Speaker 7: just before the half. San Francisco leads ten to seven. 1738 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 7: At the half, the Rams are held scoreless. In the third, 1739 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 7: George Kittle TD late puts them up ten. So the 1740 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,759 Speaker 7: Rams go into the fourth quarter here trailing seventeen to seven. 1741 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 7: The comeback starts when Coop gets his second touchdown of 1742 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,600 Speaker 7: the game, an eleven yarder. Matt Gay then bangs in 1743 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,720 Speaker 7: two field goals and with about nine to forty seven. 1744 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 7: I believe it was left in the fourth there was 1745 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 7: a brutal, brutal drop by San Francisco safety Jaqueski Tart 1746 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 7: that would have kind of maybe maybe sealed this thing 1747 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 7: for the Rams. There was six left, like nine something left, 1748 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 7: and they were up three. 1749 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 2: We would have been in a precarious situation. 1750 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. It would have been brutal because they 1751 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 7: would have had the ball on their over the fifty. 1752 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 7: He drops it, the Rams stay alive, ends up. 1753 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: It's obj. The next played in the soft spot cover 1754 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: too right, I believe so. 1755 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 4: And then Matt Gay bangs one in with a minute 1756 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 4: forty six left. 1757 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 7: Still give Jimmy g a minute forty six on the 1758 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 7: He throws a pick on that third down and long. 1759 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 7: That was it, taking the twenty to seventeen Rams win. 1760 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 7: We'll going to the super Bowl, but just stay at home. 1761 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1762 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,559 Speaker 1: First off, I got a question. What's Mickveigh like in 1763 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 1: halftime when you guys are down? Is he like guy, No, 1764 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty Sunday. You usually don't see No, it's not 1765 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,880 Speaker 1: usually not like the coaches. Once you get into the 1766 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 1: locker room, all the coaches go back, right, so it's 1767 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: to like do like make the adjustments, talk about whatever 1768 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 1: they want to make. 1769 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 3: So it's just the players in the locker room, right 1770 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 3: like cool down, yep, yep. 1771 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 2: It's oceans usually pretty quiet, there's a few conversations happening 1772 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,479 Speaker 2: on like stuff that they're seeing. 1773 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 3: Except guys are like with their you know, respect. 1774 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: Line guys are with lying guys qbs. You're talking to 1775 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 1: past catchers exactly. Some like very communicating figuring out our stuff. 1776 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 1: Coach comes down, it's kind of like, hey, it's almost 1777 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 1: always like first half's over, here's here's the plane going 1778 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 1: for it, right, It's like very Derek, it's quick halftime, 1779 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,559 Speaker 1: it's pretty quick. So he's pretty dialed in, like, hey, 1780 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,120 Speaker 1: this is the stuff that we're going to do if 1781 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 1: we like going forward. And it's like, man, here's a 1782 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 1: quick quick message, you know, usually something just like we 1783 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,439 Speaker 1: got like we're in control as black, We've got going 1784 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 1: on here, We're right there, and pretty simple and a 1785 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:17,479 Speaker 1: whole lot of fanciness to it. Now, you guys win 1786 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: this game, you get the monkey off your back. You 1787 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 1: finally beat the San Francisco forty nine er. Yeah, how 1788 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,919 Speaker 1: was it playing a Super Bowl in your home stadium? 1789 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,599 Speaker 1: Was it an advantage because you guys got to stay 1790 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 1: at home and stuff and stay away from like. 1791 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,720 Speaker 7: What how was that? Because yeah, I mean it. 1792 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Takes away from the experience, but it's also kind of 1793 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 1: like a baby advantage because you get to be in 1794 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,599 Speaker 1: your own space. 1795 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I slept in my own bed 1796 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 2: until basically the night before the game, which is a 1797 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,120 Speaker 2: huge amazing Like I love that we were in our 1798 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 2: own locker room, you know, like it felt it what 1799 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 2: it did. I was thankful I had been to one before, 1800 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 2: even though I wasn't playing it. I was I saw 1801 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,600 Speaker 2: how much of a build up there is to the 1802 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and how much it lends it. Stuff like 1803 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 2: even when you're the game's about to start, they don't 1804 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 2: tell you, like there's so much more that's about to happen. Still, 1805 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 2: they don't tell you the Rock's gonna give them monologue. Yeah, 1806 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,679 Speaker 2: you know out there as you're on the field getting 1807 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,040 Speaker 2: ready for kickoff. So like there's all this build up, 1808 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 2: but then once you finally kick the ball off, it's 1809 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 2: just it's the game, right, And so I was we 1810 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 2: had kind of preaching like, hey guys, this is again, 1811 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 2: there's gonna be so much build up to this, just 1812 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 2: let it be. Once the game gets here, it's just 1813 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 2: it's the same game. It helped that we were in 1814 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,920 Speaker 2: our own like it was our own rhythm and any 1815 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 2: other game that kind of helped lend itself to like, hey, 1816 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 2: this is this is just like any other game we've played. 1817 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 2: Just go out there and play your game. 1818 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's gotta be. That's that's kind of 1819 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 1: an advantage. You're you get to stay away. You get 1820 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 1: to have your guys in their own area, because half 1821 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,360 Speaker 1: the time there's at least one or two guys that 1822 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 1: are yeah out passed curfew guy out in Oakland. Raiders 1823 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: went to Mexico. 1824 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:55,040 Speaker 4: They never came. 1825 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 7: But like there's always a story. 1826 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, it is nice. 1827 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 7: Go ahead. 1828 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 2: Teams just have to start, you know, owners of teams 1829 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 2: just you start paying seven billion dollars to build a 1830 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,720 Speaker 2: stadium and then they can host the super Bowl and 1831 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 2: then get to the super Bowl when it's your turn. 1832 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 1: Or you could be an owner and you can have 1833 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 1: a city pay for your stadium and then have people 1834 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 1: come to your stadium that you own. 1835 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 2: That's a tricky, it's just a tricky, tricky path. I 1836 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 2: think you just make the seven billions, make the billion 1837 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,719 Speaker 2: yourself and do yourself exactly. 1838 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 5: Men. 1839 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can do that, this craft owns 1840 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 1: it starting all out to do what it's up, Jackie. 1841 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 4: What's aftermath? 1842 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 7: This was wrap up this game. I know we talked 1843 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 7: Super Bowl, but in this NFC Championship Cooper finished with 1844 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 7: eleven catches one hundred and forty. 1845 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 4: Two yards, two tuds. 1846 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 7: And to make it even crazier, your third down stats alone, 1847 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 7: seven catches, one hundred and eight yards, two tds. 1848 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,879 Speaker 4: Third down alone. 1849 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 1: I made a living clutch, Gene. 1850 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,439 Speaker 7: And then the aftermath of this game, the Rams would 1851 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 7: go on to beat the Bengals twenty three to twenty 1852 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 7: in Super Bowl fifty six. Hooper Cup would win Super 1853 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 7: Bowl MVP Andrew Whitworth would right off into the sunset. 1854 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 7: The Rams would go five and twelve the next season, 1855 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 7: and on the Niners front, Rock Party would take. 1856 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 4: Them to the NFC Championship game the next season. 1857 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,799 Speaker 1: Crazy awesome. We'll be right back after this quick break. 1858 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:24,639 Speaker 1: Let's name the game. We got a third and cup. Nice, 1859 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 1: We're going to the Super Bowl. Suck it, san Fran, 1860 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 1: the third times the charm game or do you have 1861 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:33,800 Speaker 1: any other ones? 1862 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,599 Speaker 2: I'm partial to that third one, but I mean. 1863 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,840 Speaker 4: It's get sand Fran. I'll say it for you if 1864 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 4: you don't want. 1865 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 7: To, but yeah, and do I have to say the name. 1866 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:43,760 Speaker 4: You don't have to say it, but you have to 1867 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 4: pick the name. You gotta pick it. You three option 1868 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 4: three or you have any off the top of your dome. 1869 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 7: Uh, have anything off the top of my head? 1870 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,680 Speaker 1: Suck at sand fran It is score the game. Is 1871 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,160 Speaker 1: this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it? 1872 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:04,759 Speaker 1: Stakes zero to ten decimals? Okay, the steaks of this game? 1873 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 7: What was on? What were the stakes? 1874 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:07,200 Speaker 4: Super Bowl? 1875 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 2: Super Bowls on the line of stakes are hot. It's 1876 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 2: not super Bowl, so you can't go ten? 1877 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 9: All right? 1878 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 7: Nine five five five veteran move knowing that it's not 1879 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:17,800 Speaker 7: a super Bowl, so it can't be a ten. 1880 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 4: Veteran move. 1881 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 7: Veteran move. 1882 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 4: Star power in the building on the teams. 1883 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 2: We're in LA we got yeah, star powers high We're going, 1884 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Uh nine to two? 1885 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 1: You got any star friends at our friends from being 1886 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 1: out here in l A. Do you have any star friends? 1887 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 2: Uh? 1888 01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 7: Hex Zach King? 1889 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, dak zach Zach King? 1890 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 4: Who's that too old to old? Who's that king? You 1891 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 4: guys don't know me? And looking up after this, thank 1892 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:47,679 Speaker 4: you guys. You guys don't know stuff. 1893 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:48,439 Speaker 7: He was. 1894 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 8: He was like big on vine. He does all like 1895 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,080 Speaker 8: special effects? 1896 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Yea cool really stars straight family gameplay? How good was 1897 01:23:58,800 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 2: the game gameplay? 1898 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:00,760 Speaker 4: Zero ten? 1899 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you guys killing us on this thing. 1900 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 7: Uh. 1901 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to let you guys affect me, So 1902 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say there was there's a high level gameplay 1903 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 2: aside from one play in the fourth quarter that you 1904 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:13,400 Speaker 2: guys talked about. 1905 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 7: Eight point seven eighty seven. Good score. 1906 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,439 Speaker 2: It's good score, shut out Rob, It's right, eighty seven 1907 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,000 Speaker 2: when you guys are just make some explanations for your 1908 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 2: guys to scoring here. 1909 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 4: It's like the name name of the game, suck it, sam. 1910 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 3: F it's a great name. 1911 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 2: Name, it's a great name, pretty good name. Am I 1912 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 2: scoring what the name of it is? Or am I 1913 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 2: scoring the cultural impact? 1914 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:35,960 Speaker 8: So both? 1915 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:36,639 Speaker 9: Right? 1916 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,519 Speaker 8: So like some games have an incredible name. 1917 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just lasts Oh yeah, yeah, the same that. 1918 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,960 Speaker 2: Let's go seven, seven point three three? 1919 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 4: What is that? What does that tell you? 1920 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 9: Up? 1921 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:47,679 Speaker 4: Two folks? 1922 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 7: See? 1923 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, seven five to one? Where does it go in 1924 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 1: all the games that we've done. That's a good score. 1925 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 1: It's a good score that puts us. 1926 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,719 Speaker 7: Just ahead of the two thousand and two Western Conference 1927 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 7: Finals Game five Lakers versus Kings and right behind the 1928 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 7: squish the fish. 1929 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 3: Surprise at what your first one is? 1930 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,680 Speaker 8: Two dynasties fighting. 1931 01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 1: Each other to the torch the past the torch. 1932 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 4: Tony Romo was calling it. He was on fire, Jewels 1933 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 4: was convertible and that was. 1934 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,599 Speaker 1: With a Chiefs fan. 1935 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 4: That's right, Rob rib I guess he's he gave it 1936 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:26,799 Speaker 4: perfect tens. 1937 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,320 Speaker 8: He wasn't a glacier though, So. 1938 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, you kind of missed the game. It's nuts to 1939 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:33,519 Speaker 7: do a list and have twenty eight to three b 1940 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 7: number two on any list, But that's just how good 1941 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 7: that game was. 1942 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:37,799 Speaker 4: Could we miss anything? 1943 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 7: No? 1944 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, guys, you know what time it is? You 1945 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,280 Speaker 2: know time it is? Coffee ton Yes, Dode Coffee Team 1946 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 2: Ela if we saw this coffee shop, Dodo Coffee co 1947 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:51,639 Speaker 2: website's launching soon. 1948 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,799 Speaker 3: We've been roasting our own stuff. It's high level coffee. 1949 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 4: Where do you get the beans from? 1950 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 7: Uh? 1951 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 2: The ones that we're gonna try today are Guatemala in origin, 1952 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 2: the top tier stuff. Yeah and bye me back to you. 1953 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,680 Speaker 2: The top tier stuff. The top tier stuff is a 1954 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 2: Brazil Columbia mix Brazil. 1955 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 4: I'm going to Brazil next week. All I'm gonna try 1956 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 4: some coffee. 1957 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,599 Speaker 1: Should everyone go go check out Dodo Coffee Company. And 1958 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,800 Speaker 1: it's on Instagram, it is, It's on TikTok. We had 1959 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 1: TikTok yet, I don't know. 1960 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:22,840 Speaker 7: I don't think so. 1961 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,879 Speaker 1: TikTok we got TikTok handle. It's on internet. It's everywhere 1962 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 1: on the internet. Dodo Coffee co. Check it out, Coop, 1963 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,640 Speaker 1: thanks for fucking doing this, man, stud. That was That 1964 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 1: was a fun show. 1965 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 4: That was really fun. Coop was amazing. 1966 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 1: He really is a sharp kid. He knows his stuff 1967 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 1: and you can tell he uses his time very efficiently 1968 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 1: and he takes his craft seriously, very seriously. 1969 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 7: The grind doesn't stop, no days off. He can be 1970 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,800 Speaker 7: a football coach after it all. I could see that, bro, 1971 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 7: I could see it. He had some coach in him. 1972 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,599 Speaker 7: How about uh, how about that coffee you guys were sipping. 1973 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,200 Speaker 4: I wasn't It was good coffee. I need a sip 1974 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,360 Speaker 4: of that after this. Yeah, Dodo Coffee Co. Shout out 1975 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 4: to Dodo baby, like I think they have they have 1976 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 4: a do they have a store? 1977 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,240 Speaker 8: Dodo Coffee dot co. 1978 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 7: A couple of things, A couple of things to uh 1979 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,200 Speaker 7: to touch upon before we hit the hotline. Here. We 1980 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,280 Speaker 7: mentioned earlier in the episode, this is a great coaching game. 1981 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 7: A lot of guys on both sides of the ball 1982 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,680 Speaker 7: that went on to become head coaches. Let's give him 1983 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 7: their shine here real quick. Raheem Morris, raheem d You 1984 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 7: see the rams. We all he's most famous for being 1985 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 7: a better coach than Bill Belichick. 1986 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 4: We know that he's also a head coach of the 1987 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,280 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Bucks for a couple of years. That's right. 1988 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 7: Now, he's the current head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. 1989 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 1: And they drafted Pennix over one. That's right, that was 1990 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 1: But they also paid Kirk Cousins. 1991 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:45,840 Speaker 7: A lot of money. 1992 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,840 Speaker 4: You know, hey, hey, maybe it works. We don't know 1993 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:50,839 Speaker 4: when they zig, you zag. 1994 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,840 Speaker 6: So we drafted Kirk Cousins after they drafted Robert from 1995 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,000 Speaker 6: the third and spind all those picks. And but it 1996 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 6: worked out, and eight large boys may not have a 1997 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,719 Speaker 6: draft first round pick next year with a little Tampa 1998 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 6: in action. 1999 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,080 Speaker 1: Tampa action, they did it. That's why they did it. 2000 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what people say. 2001 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:10,719 Speaker 4: Uh. 2002 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell, former teammate, current head coach of the Minnesota. 2003 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,080 Speaker 4: Viking, bet you we get koc in here. I'd I 2004 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 4: like that coach and talk. 2005 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: I saw him on a flight once recently, like probably 2006 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:24,759 Speaker 1: the last eight months. 2007 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,960 Speaker 4: Say what's up? We said, we were sitting next to 2008 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 4: each other. 2009 01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 7: That's hilarious. 2010 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 4: What are the odds of that? 2011 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was may have been at the 2012 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: super Bowl. 2013 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 4: Okay, so the odds are a little higher higher. First 2014 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 4: class guys, first class guys. 2015 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:36,679 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2016 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,000 Speaker 6: When you start flying between places like New York and 2017 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 6: l A, or like Boston, LA, and you're in first class, 2018 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 6: I bet you sit next to people you recognize quite 2019 01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:43,599 Speaker 6: a bit. 2020 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Not really, I try to get that pod. 2021 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,880 Speaker 8: Pod Mint, shout out Mint. 2022 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,599 Speaker 7: So I think I saw LeVar Burton on my those 2023 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,440 Speaker 7: the last famous person I saw on a flight reading rainbows. 2024 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,919 Speaker 6: More wait, hold on Kevin O'Connell talking about drafting quarterbacks. 2025 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 8: Little j J McCarthy, Action J. 2026 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,799 Speaker 6: McCarty, Me and Jack saw Jim Harbor in the parking 2027 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 6: lot of the Roast. 2028 01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,160 Speaker 7: I saw Jim mid roast, mid joke. I looked at 2029 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 7: him like milk drinker, crazy guy. 2030 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,120 Speaker 1: And then Kyle Shanahan was here too. 2031 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,599 Speaker 7: He was wild, he was he was looking suited and 2032 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:26,240 Speaker 7: booted me GQ over g Q. He said, I'm leaving 2033 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,120 Speaker 7: my formal flat bill at home tonight. I'm letting the 2034 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:29,719 Speaker 7: hair breathe. 2035 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 8: Baby. 2036 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 7: Coach Shanahan, Man, he's you got some swag he does. 2037 01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,759 Speaker 7: Speaking of swag, Daddy's Tamiko Ryans was also in this game. 2038 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 7: He was the DC of the Niners. Now he's doing 2039 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 7: some cool stuff down there and h. 2040 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,400 Speaker 8: Town wearing the hell out of a long sleep. 2041 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,840 Speaker 7: He is. Man, still can keep It's not too It's 2042 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 7: not skin tight, is it? You can still still definition? 2043 01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:53,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. 2044 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:54,680 Speaker 3: I like that. 2045 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,120 Speaker 7: He's kind of play. 2046 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,519 Speaker 1: He was three time All I think he was like 2047 01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 1: a two time All Pro. 2048 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,000 Speaker 7: He was SEC Defensive Player the Year, two time Pro Bowler, 2049 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 7: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, first team All Pro, 2050 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,880 Speaker 7: and O seven he led the NFL and solo tackles 2051 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 7: and O sick. That's pretty crazy ballin' yeah, balling ball 2052 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 7: so hard. 2053 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,160 Speaker 8: There's more and there's more. 2054 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,360 Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel and we all know him, the whiz kid 2055 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 7: down there in Miami. 2056 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,599 Speaker 4: He was the OC and the Niners this year. 2057 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 1: You think this is when he was in the press 2058 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 1: box just vaping, just I'm sure huge cloud, just vape central. 2059 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 1: No camera in that time in the box, He's just. 2060 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go with the ride. 2061 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:41,840 Speaker 1: One thirty four fo Ice, Hey, keep your eyes waight up, 2062 01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,639 Speaker 1: keep your eyes backside rangers person out. 2063 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'd like to imagine that's exactly how 2064 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 7: it went down, probably exactly how real vapors. And then 2065 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,599 Speaker 7: coaching under him was another guy we mentioned this episode, 2066 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,680 Speaker 7: Wes Welker. Wes Wes a famous backwards hat coach, backwards 2067 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,880 Speaker 7: hat coach, receivers coach that year pretty crazy. 2068 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,960 Speaker 1: And then I have to ask Colin Coward about that. Why, 2069 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,160 Speaker 1: because Colin Coward hates people at the podium with a 2070 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 1: backwards hat. 2071 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:09,600 Speaker 7: I didn't know that. 2072 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 1: Oh, it just went yeah. Colin Coward he talked about it. 2073 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: He hates when your quarterback has backwards hat at the podium. 2074 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask him what does backwards hat on 2075 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 1: position coach mean? 2076 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 7: Maddy p was another guy in the position that Yeah. 2077 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,439 Speaker 7: And then to wrap it all up, this was a 2078 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,920 Speaker 7: heck of a year for Cooper Cup. He puts a 2079 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,679 Speaker 7: bow on it, puts the cherry on top with Super 2080 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,479 Speaker 7: Bowl MVP. But we can't forget he was a triple 2081 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,479 Speaker 7: Crown winner with one hundred and forty five receptions one 2082 01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:44,599 Speaker 7: nine forty seven yards, sixteen touchdowns. And then to put 2083 01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,160 Speaker 7: that in context, the last man to win a triple 2084 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,960 Speaker 7: crown Steve Smith in the in the NFL was Steve 2085 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,360 Speaker 7: Smith senior before that, Sterling Sharp before that, Jerry writes, 2086 01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 7: before that, Glance all Worth. Then the list goes on 2087 01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,839 Speaker 7: and on. But in the MLB twenty twelve, Miguel Cabrera 2088 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,599 Speaker 7: like yell with Detroit and then. 2089 01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,479 Speaker 4: Did Barry hit that thing a few times? 2090 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,280 Speaker 2: Barry bones triple crown. 2091 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,559 Speaker 7: Now he's not on the list here, yeas, Before that 2092 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 7: it was yeas apparently, which is sixty seven. There's a 2093 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,519 Speaker 7: lot of coaches on the c M team. And then 2094 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,719 Speaker 7: oh yeah, it's crazy. 2095 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,839 Speaker 4: And then the last horse racing triple crown wasn't Justify 2096 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 4: in eighteen. 2097 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:26,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so pretty recently crazy. Also American Pharaoh and 2098 01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,559 Speaker 7: American horse talk. Yeah, I would love to get a 2099 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,040 Speaker 7: horse racing I was. 2100 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,479 Speaker 1: I never was like a big There's like guys that 2101 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,439 Speaker 1: loved the horses on the teams, like Rabel Walker used 2102 01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: to love, like those are horse Terry Bradshaw's a big 2103 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:41,760 Speaker 1: horse guy, like those guys that. 2104 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 7: Use I think that he's racing, Yeah, Raindy Moss Racing. 2105 01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Will Fork had horses. Like, there's a bunch of 2106 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,600 Speaker 1: dudes that like loved horse racing. I just like the 2107 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 1: movie Sea Biscuit. 2108 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,040 Speaker 8: I'm with you. Shout out Elizabeth Banks from Western Massachusetts. 2109 01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great movie. See Biscuit with though 2110 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,640 Speaker 1: spider Man Toby. That was a great movie. Or the 2111 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,120 Speaker 1: short lived HBO series Luck remember that one died. 2112 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, And on that note, it's the hot line. 2113 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:14,719 Speaker 4: Let's hit the old hot line. 2114 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,800 Speaker 1: Remember that number is four two four two nine one 2115 01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 1: two two nine to zero. 2116 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,920 Speaker 8: If you had to pick one hit, it was the 2117 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,599 Speaker 8: hardest you'd ever been hit. 2118 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 9: Which hit would that be? 2119 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 6: I personally think it may have been a Camp Chancellor 2120 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,640 Speaker 6: hit in the twenty fourteen Super Bowl, But that's just 2121 01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 6: me what. 2122 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:45,479 Speaker 1: You got hardest hit? You think it's the Cam Chancellor hit. Well, 2123 01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,400 Speaker 1: that was a very hard hit. But I was expecting 2124 01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 1: that hit. I got hit my rookie year when we 2125 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:55,400 Speaker 1: were playing in Denver against Josh McDaniels when he was 2126 01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,679 Speaker 1: the head coach there and they had those ugly mustard 2127 01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,599 Speaker 1: uniforms on in Denver where they had like weird it 2128 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:05,799 Speaker 1: was like Mustard yellow and brown and uh, Brian Dawkins 2129 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,440 Speaker 1: lit me up. I saw a star for like three weeks, 2130 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 1: like I had to teach myself how to catch with 2131 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,920 Speaker 1: this thing. And then also Ed Reed lit me up 2132 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:20,160 Speaker 1: on a post route in Baltimore and twelve and then 2133 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis hit me twice pretty hard. I've already explained one. 2134 01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:29,040 Speaker 1: I had j low booty too, I had reset button. 2135 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:30,679 Speaker 4: What is Jay Loboody again? 2136 01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:34,360 Speaker 1: Well, I got he needed me so hard on my butt. Yeah, 2137 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: I had a hemotoma. They had to drain my butt. 2138 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't sit down for three weeks, like I wouldn't 2139 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:40,879 Speaker 1: have been able to play if we won that playoff 2140 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,000 Speaker 1: game because they like my my my butt blew up 2141 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:45,960 Speaker 1: like it was so crazy. 2142 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:47,800 Speaker 4: Man, good question. 2143 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:52,040 Speaker 9: Hey, miss Reydleman. Is that question? What is your favorite 2144 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 9: route sing out that you've ever been? And also what 2145 01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 9: is the most prepared who is the most prepared dB 2146 01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 9: that you ever want to get? 2147 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 1: Favorite route? The Reader route. We went over it with Coop. 2148 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 1: You got it's a one man like. It's pretty much 2149 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,720 Speaker 1: one man show. You win, like you can go It's 2150 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,439 Speaker 1: like six twelve. You could take it across or you 2151 01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,000 Speaker 1: could bring it out to the bow. It's like a 2152 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,000 Speaker 1: great man covered drought. We hit it a few times 2153 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl against the Rams, and then you 2154 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,800 Speaker 1: know that's when we first put it in. I love 2155 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,880 Speaker 1: that route. And the most prepared dB was always throw Revis. 2156 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 4: He was such. 2157 01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:35,520 Speaker 1: A always on balance new formation wise, what you guys ran, situationally, 2158 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:39,920 Speaker 1: He knew what concepts were coming, He knew your weaknesses 2159 01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 1: like he was he was really he was always very 2160 01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,840 Speaker 1: prepared mental like on what was going on with the 2161 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:46,439 Speaker 1: game plans. 2162 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:51,000 Speaker 6: How much individuals scouting, like scouting against individuals would you do? 2163 01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:52,639 Speaker 6: So if you know you're gonna be matched up against 2164 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 6: like you do a lot. 2165 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,479 Speaker 1: I mean there you get It's so easy in NFL 2166 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,479 Speaker 1: because then you get all you got guys that do 2167 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 1: all the homework and the cut up. So I'll go 2168 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,920 Speaker 1: and I said, I want to see every every play 2169 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 1: targeted to Revis or cornerback on third down. 2170 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,360 Speaker 4: Give me that of this season. 2171 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,240 Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, the last season, and 2172 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,439 Speaker 1: you sit and you just watch if he has an 2173 01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,200 Speaker 1: offhand jam, what he does with his legs. If he 2174 01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,240 Speaker 1: does the offhand jam, is he does he freeze gate 2175 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:26,000 Speaker 1: with you with certain moves. You know, you're looking at 2176 01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,599 Speaker 1: all little tendencies of what guys do at the line 2177 01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,680 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and then also at the top routes. Does 2178 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 1: he like to undercut? Does he grab? You have to 2179 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,840 Speaker 1: be physical with them. You can pick a lot of 2180 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 1: things up. How does this guy handle certain routes? Is 2181 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,840 Speaker 1: he is he a game plan guy? So like, is 2182 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 1: he gonna watch my routes from last week? So if 2183 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 1: I marry my routes last week, is he going to 2184 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 1: run that route? And then I can combo it and 2185 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 1: like counter it with a different route. Like those are 2186 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:52,000 Speaker 1: the things you watch. 2187 01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:53,960 Speaker 8: Is that mostly on like ALL twenty two? Or do 2188 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:54,960 Speaker 8: you have like angles? 2189 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,200 Speaker 1: That all you want all twenty two because you get 2190 01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,559 Speaker 1: you get the wide and you can see techniques the back. 2191 01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,880 Speaker 1: They have a far back end zone shot, they have 2192 01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,839 Speaker 1: a close end zone shot for line. 2193 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,679 Speaker 4: Play the interior, and then you have. 2194 01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,599 Speaker 1: The deep end zone shot where you can see everyone 2195 01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,840 Speaker 1: on the field, so you can see how a guy's 2196 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 1: lining up. You know what technique he is on you? 2197 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,479 Speaker 1: Is he inside leverage, is the outside leverage? Is his 2198 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,639 Speaker 1: head up? That's the stuff you look at. If I 2199 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,600 Speaker 1: if I bring my split down, what does he do 2200 01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,639 Speaker 1: does he get you know, is he is he off 2201 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,600 Speaker 1: and outside or is he off head up or is 2202 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 1: he off inside? So a lot of that that's what 2203 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:31,400 Speaker 1: you want to look at. 2204 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,680 Speaker 6: But you'd never really look at like or if there's 2205 01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,439 Speaker 6: an angle that exist sports a lot you can see, 2206 01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 6: like hand movement or anything like that. You want the 2207 01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:38,960 Speaker 6: wider you want to see how you can see that, 2208 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,400 Speaker 6: and you can see and then you'll have like close 2209 01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,640 Speaker 6: ups too, like the guys behind the scenes that make cutups, 2210 01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,720 Speaker 6: they'll highlight and they'll give you like this his you. 2211 01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 4: They'll have write ups. 2212 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,679 Speaker 1: Each scout has to do a right up each player, 2213 01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 1: so you get these right ups of each guy. You 2214 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,599 Speaker 1: know where he went to school, what what his story is. 2215 01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:02,559 Speaker 1: You know, they'll give you background, like you know his 2216 01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,000 Speaker 1: power and his his his strengths are, he's got an offhand, 2217 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 1: jam strong, Atlanta scrimmage. 2218 01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:09,320 Speaker 4: He's terrible. 2219 01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,160 Speaker 1: His weaknesses, he's terrible his side to side movement. You 2220 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,600 Speaker 1: have to get him running, you know, so like you 2221 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,320 Speaker 1: can you'll see the right up and then they have 2222 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,840 Speaker 1: a cut up for the right up and then you 2223 01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 1: can go. And sometimes you just want to watch an 2224 01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,360 Speaker 1: overall game of how he plays just him. How's he 2225 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,240 Speaker 1: playing the run game? How does he play when the 2226 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,439 Speaker 1: balls not throw to him? 2227 01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:29,280 Speaker 7: You know what I mean? 2228 01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,080 Speaker 4: See if you can lull guys asleep and stuff? 2229 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:37,400 Speaker 9: Hey, you like Cooper Cup all time. 2230 01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:42,360 Speaker 1: All time in regular season Cooper Cup man triple crowliner 2231 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:47,760 Speaker 1: that season and five catches all time season Cooper Cup 2232 01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 1: almost two thousand yards sixteen touchdowns. 2233 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,800 Speaker 7: But when it matters most in the player in the 2234 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,719 Speaker 7: big games, I'm riding had a great sea. I'm riding 2235 01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 7: for my guy. He's as one year. What about what 2236 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,599 Speaker 7: about a body of work? Baby? 2237 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:03,360 Speaker 4: My guy's good. 2238 01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,880 Speaker 8: He's a stud. Oh no, either or just studs. 2239 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 4: We're different players studs. But I got to ride from 2240 01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:10,439 Speaker 4: my guy. 2241 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:12,520 Speaker 7: Come on, man, gets the rings. 2242 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,920 Speaker 4: Hot and ready the signs on a thank you. 2243 01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:23,560 Speaker 9: Time, yo. Mis uh cake. Grew up in West Texas. 2244 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,240 Speaker 9: I got to watch Wes Welter, Zach Thomas, those boys 2245 01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,280 Speaker 9: at the Red Raiders. To you see that Wes Welker 2246 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 9: is the piller of the position. What's your what's your 2247 01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,719 Speaker 9: take on? That dude was a game changers. 2248 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:44,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Wes had a huge part of the whole slot position. 2249 01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,799 Speaker 1: But you know, even before him, there was Troy Brown, 2250 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,640 Speaker 1: Dion Branch, There's a lot of other guys did it, 2251 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,080 Speaker 1: but Wes was a kind of guy that was he's 2252 01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,000 Speaker 1: like a tweener almost like he was like a running 2253 01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,760 Speaker 1: back with his quickness and how he moved, you know, 2254 01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:04,600 Speaker 1: like he definitely helped create that position. Wes Welker is 2255 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:08,280 Speaker 1: a pivotal for this whole slot movement and for guys 2256 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 1: like me that even got an opportunity, you know, guys 2257 01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:15,960 Speaker 1: that were stereotypically not ever seen as a pass catcher. 2258 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,599 Speaker 1: He'd be more running back ten fifty or thirty years 2259 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:19,680 Speaker 1: ago or you know what I mean. 2260 01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:20,439 Speaker 4: Even then he's. 2261 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,679 Speaker 1: Probably you know, he helped create that, but it started 2262 01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:28,320 Speaker 1: with Troy Brown, you know, Dion Branch, a lot of 2263 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 1: guys him. 2264 01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:30,960 Speaker 6: In that offense two thousand and seven kind of like 2265 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,439 Speaker 6: put it on the map, but it was already there. 2266 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 7: It was there. 2267 01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just that was when you paired up. That's 2268 01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 1: when you pair a really good slot with you know, 2269 01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,559 Speaker 1: top three, top two, greatest receiver of all time on 2270 01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:44,679 Speaker 1: that side that can just run and so you're opening 2271 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,800 Speaker 1: up levels. And then they had Dante stellwar through, you know, 2272 01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 1: who was also he was a one in a lot 2273 01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,160 Speaker 1: of places for a long time before that. So and 2274 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,760 Speaker 1: he was fast and explosively, had Jabbart like, they had 2275 01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,760 Speaker 1: so many weapons and so many spots that you had 2276 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 1: to you couldn't just key out on one guy. So 2277 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,479 Speaker 1: that's why he had Monster. He was a monster. He 2278 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:04,479 Speaker 1: had Monster years. 2279 01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:08,559 Speaker 7: Every year spread him out And so opposition's cool and all, 2280 01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,679 Speaker 7: but this guy is talking Zach Thomas. Let's talk about 2281 01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,880 Speaker 7: one of the glass great neck roll guys of all time. 2282 01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,760 Speaker 7: Five eleven. Yeah, fifth round draft pick, NFL Hall of Famer. Yeah, 2283 01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,799 Speaker 7: he's a monster. Got out Zach Thomas. 2284 01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Sack Thomas. So I used to hear 2285 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot about him just because they played. He played 2286 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,320 Speaker 1: in Dolphins a lot, and we used to watch a 2287 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 1: lot of install tape of how to run certain routes 2288 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,120 Speaker 1: and it'd be welker always on Zach Thomas and always 2289 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:40,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It feels like, but man, 2290 01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,040 Speaker 1: what a game. Thanks again to Cooper Cup and be 2291 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:46,160 Speaker 1: sure to check out Dodo Coffee Co. 2292 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,400 Speaker 8: Dodo Coffee dot Co is the. 2293 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:52,679 Speaker 1: Website Dodocoffee dot Co. That's been another episode of Games 2294 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:58,920 Speaker 1: with Names. 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