1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: All right, the Last of Us just wrapped in. I 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: wasn't impressed to nothing me either. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: I just did not think it was as interesting or 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: as gripping as the previous seasons. I was very bored, and. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: I feel like the only takeaway was that I was 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: sideye in the oyster mushrooms at the Farmer's market and I. 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Was like, listen, this is the first season of the 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Last of Us. We've been needing to talk about this. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: So oh, because did I tell you I am taking 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: a mushroom supplement. I'm taking Lion's main mushroom girl. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: No, I mean nothing wrong with it. Do you feel okay? 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: I feel I mean, you know, I don't know if 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: it's just like all in my mind or if it's 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: actually doing something because I took it because I wanted 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: to like make sure that I wasn't like having so 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: much brain fog and stuff like that. Okay, so to 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: help me focus, and I think it's going okay. I 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: am not sure if it's doing anything, but I don't 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: feel like I haven't been focused. 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, long as you're not clicking like on 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: the Last of Us, we're good. We're good. 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: Could you imagine I'm TT and I'm Zakiyah, and this 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: is Dope Labs. Welcome to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: that mixes hardcore science with pop culture and a healthy 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: dose of friendship. All Right, I think we already know 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: funger everywhere. Yes, that is one of the first things 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: that we know. 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: And I know just from a little bit of microbiology background. 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I got to learn a little bit about fungus, but 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: I know they have these like vast underground networks. They 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: live on our skin and our guts, and they can 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: even be spores in the air. 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't have a biology background, so I know nothing 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: of those things. But I do know the pop culture, 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: which is that everyone is obsessed. HBO's the Last of Us, 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: put Cordyceps on the center stage, and TikTok Wellness keeps 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 2: pushing lines made lattes and creams and all these different things. 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: Girl, I had a mushroom beer the other day. I 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: mean mushroom root beer. 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh there's mushroom coffee. 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Yes, there is also foraging for mushrooms is booming. 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: Too, absolutely Now. 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's one thing to id birds. That's 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna eat them. I don't know if 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: I can I d mushrooms? 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: You well, the only bird I mean is chicken. I think, 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: oh in those quail eggs. We won't talk about it. 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: And you're eating turkey, girl, What are you told? 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Right? I do eat turkey? Okay, So you know these 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: these animals just don't register my mind when I'm eating. 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, Peter thinking about the mushrooms and fun guy, Like, 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: what do we want to know? 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: I think what I want to know is which parts 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: of the Cordyceps horror are rooted in like real actual 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: mushrooms science, you know what I mean. 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: It's like, where does the science separate from the fiction? 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Where is the line between the sigh and the five? 59 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: That whole show. 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Made me so nervous and I want to know, like 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm a Marketer's dream. Okay, I'll try it. 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: All. 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Are these mushroom coffees and tinctures and brain elixers, you know, 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: things to help lift the fog? Are they legit or 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: are they just clever marketing? 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: M Yeah? I mean if we take it a step further, 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: it's like, how do fungi affect us every day? Like? 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: How does it? How does it impact our well being 69 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: and like our lives. 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think it's pretty clear today we're diving 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: into fungui, those mysterious little things. And I'm not talking 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: like Mario Brothers little you know, Tolstool. We're talking about 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: things that are in our food, under our feet and 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: on the last of us, controlling dead people. So we 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: went to an expert in fungui and in foraging for 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: fungui too. 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: My name is Darling Go and you know I would 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: say that first and foremost, I am a scientist. I 79 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: do study and I major in data science at Georgia 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: State University and so Apart from being a full time student, 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm also a park ranger at the Arabia Mountain National 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: Heritage Area. I am the founder of Hikes of Georgia 83 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: as well Hikes of Georgia as an educational and science 84 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: based organization that's really meant to educate people on the 85 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: study of fungi and mold as well as just general 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: nature knowledge and you know, helping our community become better 87 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: stewards of our land, because if not us, who will awesome. 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: From park ranger to data scientists, you're connecting the dots 89 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: between nature and technology and that is really really cool 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: and we're really excited to have you. Okay, So my 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: question is is that we want to break down mycology 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: for our audience. What does the word mean? 93 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: Mycology works from es centrally just a study of fungi, 94 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: and the fungi comes from the micopart and so the 95 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: ology we would know as generally being attributed to fields 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: of study. When we think of the word mushroom and 97 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: we think of the word fung gui, they can be synonymous. 98 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: But technically the fung guy is the body. 99 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: So we know the fruiting body that we typically see 100 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: or we think of having that top and stem, that 101 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: is what we typically call a mushroom. But there's so 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: much more that you mentioned where the fun guy are 103 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: growing underground, and sometimes there are things that we can't 104 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: even see. I can remember growing up thinking about fung 105 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: guy as decomposers, like they help stuff go away, or 106 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: when wood is rotting, you're gonna see mushrooms there. Yes. 107 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Since then, and as I've grown, I've learned more. I 108 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: think about the micro rhizal networks and I think they 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: don't get enough credit. You know, I'm all about giving 110 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: credit whorres to. But I feel like they don't get 111 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: enough credit. Yeah, so I want to tell us a 112 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: little bit about these networks. It help us imagine what 113 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: would our force look like without those fun guy in 114 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: the mix, because I think we don't really appreciate it. 115 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: Y's right, absolutely, it's a wonderful question. By the way, Zakia, 116 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: this opens up a whole You know, we can get 117 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: very abstract here, but let's start very low level and 118 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: we'll work our way up. There are three main categories. 119 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: Off mushrooms or a fun guy. One of the main 120 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: categories which are the saprophetic mushrooms. Saprophetic mushrooms, it's just 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: the technical term for a decomposer, right, okay, And primarily 122 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: a cool thing about them is usually on your hikes. 123 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: This is going to be one of the more popular 124 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: categories of mushrooms that you come across, because decomposition is 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: always occurring in the ecosystem. And then we have another 126 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: minor category with the smallest category would be the parasitic mushrooms. 127 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: They have their own important ecological functions. For example, if 128 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: there was a subset of an ecosystem of trees and 129 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: an ecosystem that was already susceptible to a given disease. 130 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: They're a compromisation by these parasitic fungi a lot easier. 131 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: And this is generally what sort of trees. These parasitic 132 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: fungi will prey on organisms that are already susceptible, and 133 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: sometimes this parasitic fungui could easily mitigate the spread of 134 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: disease to the greater population of the ecosystem. So exactly, 135 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: although they're pretty gnarly right in nature, things are just 136 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: merely designed beautifully with a cause and effect, and I 137 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: think the more we understand that, the better we understand 138 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: ourselves too. But getting onto your main point, these infamous 139 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: Michael rises mushrooms and what's all to talk about them 140 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: or microhyzel fungi. Think of it as filamentous threads that 141 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: are roughly just one cell wall thick, and they're just 142 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: moving underground, just spreading right. No eyes, no ears, no 143 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: taste buds. It's super cool. These are organisms with no 144 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: central nervous system that are still one of the most 145 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: effective at acquiring resources, which is what makes it profound. 146 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: But these microizal mushrooms is they're underground, they're looking for 147 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: certain chemicals, and these chemicals are exactly what the trees 148 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: are providing. There's always a chemical universe and a chemical 149 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: relationship and dynamics going on underground. The roots of trees 150 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: are pumping out these chemicals that attract mushrooms that can 151 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: help provide them more resources. And here's where it gets 152 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: even more fun. So this michael rhyzel mycilium, which is 153 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: the network of this body of fungi, right, we refer 154 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: to it as just a mycilium network. This myceilial network 155 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: is it's spreading underground but encounters a chemical from a 156 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: root of a tree that it thinks it can work 157 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: with and maybe pair up for life. And what happens 158 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: here is super cool. When they're within proximity of each other, 159 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: the tree will keep letting out the chemical that's attracting 160 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: this michel rhyzel mushroom that wants to form a relationship 161 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: with it, and the micro hyzel myceolium realizes this and 162 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: it starts letting out a specific chemical that lets it 163 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: know that, hey, you know your best friends here type 164 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: of deal. 165 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: So that's chemotaxis moving away from or in this case, 166 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: towards different chemical signals. 167 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: Right, it's like their secret chemical message. And what happens 168 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: is is and this is science and we've been able 169 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: to figure out in the last decade. But as we 170 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: know now, the root of the tree will let down 171 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: it saw wall. 172 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. Plants or trees recognize it as 173 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: a symbiotic relationship, and the plants just dissolve their seal 174 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: walls in that region that's near the fun guy and 175 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: say like, come on in, I'm rolling out the red 176 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: carpet for you. 177 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I think I get it. So it's building 178 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: an infrastructure. It's kind of like a sidewalk welcoming you 179 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: into the tree. 180 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: Not just a sidewalk, a highway where nutrients and information 181 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: is being passed twenty four to seven, three hundred and 182 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: sixty five days of the week. Right, And this is 183 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: the mic hoorizal relationship that's formed. 184 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: This is really interesting. How does it affect us or 185 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: does it affect us? 186 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: Well, roughly eighty percent of trees are connected to a 187 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: symbiotic relationship with some fungi, right, So they're connected with 188 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: some sort of mic rhizo fungi, and fungi can be 189 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: found everywhere in the World's the Arctic apart from those 190 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: two poles, but everywhere else it's fair game. Even in 191 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 3: deserts it's it's interesting. So essentially, this tree is siphering 192 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: off carbon and it doesn't use all of this carbon, 193 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: though it saves roughly twenty to thirty percent. It turns 194 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: it into glucose and it trades it with the micylorhizol mushroom. 195 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: It gives it sugar, and then what does the micro 196 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: rhizal mushroom give in return? The myceelial network is so 197 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: adept it can reach deep underground reservoirs the roots of 198 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: trees can never dare imagine to reach right or just 199 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 3: nutrient spots from dead animals or highly nutrient locations that 200 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 3: are a little bit further off from the tree's main 201 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: location that its roots can't reach to, and it's sending 202 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: over the phosphorus, the nitrogen, and these are some of 203 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: the main nutrients provide. 204 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: We're talking about chemical signals that are saying like, hey, 205 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: me and you, two different species, let's cooperate. And I 206 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: feel like that's a little wild because when we think 207 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: about cooperative I'm always thinking like in one species, you know. 208 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: I, Yeah, that's wild. I mean that's a strong scent, 209 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: that's strong cologne, strong perfume. You know, is that baccarat rouge? 210 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: I heard that that's what all the young folks are. 211 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Wearing these I'm not smelling that. Now. 212 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: Is this limited to just tree or plant communicating with 213 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: symbiotic fungus or does this type of communication exist between 214 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: one tree to the next tree. 215 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: This is how the communication also happens. And if ecosystem 216 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: and there was a mother tree that was doing pretty 217 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: well off, but then you had saplings a couple miles 218 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: off in the forest that were in danger. There's this communication, 219 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: there's a distress signal that's sent from the sapling and 220 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: they're all communicating via this micro ryzel network. And what 221 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: happens is the mother could decide to channel its resources 222 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: to the saplings in helping it grow some more, which 223 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: is just it's beautiful. And so it brings on a 224 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 3: new meaning of you know, we have this notion of 225 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: saying the forest is alive. Right, these things are just communicating, 226 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: transferring information and resources. And micro rhizel mushrooms are the 227 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: nervous system of the forest, right, many ways of looking 228 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: at it, but without microhizel mushrooms. We wouldn't have trees 229 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: in a lot of places that we do now, or 230 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: you wouldn't have forest as dense and deep in the growth. 231 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: So then this plays into how much forest can actually 232 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: siphon off from sequestering carbon from the atmosphere. Microhizal mushrooms 233 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: or by far one of my favorite categories of mushrooms. 234 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: I really loved how you describe that, because, I mean, 235 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: at first I was like, oh, this sounds scary, but 236 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: then you you describe such a beautiful relationship between the 237 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: tree and the fungus, and it's it's like almost emotional, 238 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: like how much they depend on each other and they used, 239 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: how much they use each other. The way you described 240 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: how the fungus moves underground and it is moving through things, 241 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: you know what reminded me of They reminded me of 242 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: the Last of Us. I don't know if you've been 243 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: watching that as a mushroom expert, cortescep, but they talk 244 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: about cordyceps all the time, and I feel like the 245 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: word cordycep now is now a part of the zeitgeist 246 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: because of this show, and we don't know a lot 247 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: about it, and this show is basically teaching us, and 248 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: we don't know if it's true or not, right, so 249 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: we just want to kind of have a little bit 250 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: of a reality check when it comes to courtusps and 251 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: human zombies. 252 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: I always always get at least one person on the 253 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: high Ku recommends that show and I still haven't yet 254 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: watched it. I've heard about it so much that I 255 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: actually went I've read up on the show. Quartersps are 256 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: really cool because they sort of are the prime example 257 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: of a zombie like takeover and what that could look like. 258 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: Mushrooms are shaped in all sorts of ways, right. You'll 259 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: see some with caps, You'll see some with oozing jelly, 260 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: You'll see some with multiple fronds. But they're all meant 261 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: to enhance their sporelation process, which is just the way 262 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: that they released their sports, and the spores could germinate 263 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: on a lot of different things, right. It doesn't just 264 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: have to be the dead wood or the leaf litter 265 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: in the forest ecosystem. It can be a living tree. 266 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: Primarily a lot of insects and a ragnet are the 267 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: favorite host for the quarter steps. The way mushrooms grow 268 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: is by way of external excretion of enzymes, and these 269 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: enzymes are ponent enough to break down the kitan, which 270 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: is just the shell of these insects, and so once 271 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: a spore, which is microscopic, it's almost invisible to the eye. 272 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: It lands on this and to lands on this beetle. 273 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: As it eats its way into its body, it starts 274 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: filling it with mycilium. And the insect has no idea 275 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: this is happening. It is just living life as it 276 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: always was. It's a PG Friday, It's Taco Tuesday for it. 277 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: There is nothing going on. Slowly, but surely, the mysilium 278 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: completely encapsulates this insect, and at that point then something 279 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: very special happens. We still have here a chemical relationship. 280 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: The masilium starts flooding the brain of this insect with 281 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: chemicals of dopamine and a lot of excitement and a 282 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: lot of rage, and it starts to take control of 283 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: the movement of this insect, and it forces it not 284 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: too far off from its colony. It forces it to 285 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: the highest point by the colony, close enough to where 286 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: when the mushroom sprouts, its spores have a higher probability 287 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: of encountering more hosts like it. So this ant climbs 288 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: up the closest tree, looks at the twig that's really 289 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: high up, finds a leaf, clamps on the leaf, and 290 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: that's the last thing this insect ever does. Within yep, 291 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: and within days two weeks, the mushroom completely eats the 292 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: ant or the insect insight. And then we get this 293 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: cool and this really awesome looking horn that comes out 294 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: of the mushroom in the form of quartersps and quartersps. 295 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: Because at this point people may be like, ah, a 296 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: parasitic mushroom, Like it's kind of gross. I get why 297 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: they'd make a show about it, But it's actually really 298 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: popular in holistic medical practices. 299 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: All right, wait wait, wait, wait wait, because you would 300 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: just talking about something a little while. That's not the 301 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: plot twist that I saw coming right. 302 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: Quartersps are known, especially in Asian medicine, right to enhance 303 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: athletic performance, speed up recovery. 304 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: So today we learn mushrooms can either create insect zombies 305 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: or boost your athletic performance. Choose your fighter. 306 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: It's really cool. It's really cool. So as far as 307 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: the clinical trials that are being done in the West 308 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 3: right now, it's primarily for enhance energy, athletic performance and 309 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: speeding up recovery. There's also another medicinal factor. It's known 310 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: for in a lot of Asian countries, and it's known 311 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: as the mushroom that can slow down aging. It's really cool. 312 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: But just for more practical clinical research, we have found 313 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 3: that there is a specific compound known as quarti sapin 314 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: in these quartersap mushrooms. But believe me, this thing is 315 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: only going to get more popular because from what trial 316 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: is already showing from the last several decades, i'd say 317 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: ten to twenty years, there's a lot of research that's 318 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: being backed up and corroborated now in the scientific world 319 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: regarding the medicinal benefits of mushrooms and quarters apps. It's 320 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: right there with the top along with Lion's main and 321 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: the like. 322 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Listen, the benefits seem great, but I don't feel like 323 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: those advances are enough to make me want to be 324 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: infected by mushrooms like Courtyceps last of Us style. I'm 325 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: just glad that's not possible, Okay. 326 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: Same, Can I ask you a question? 327 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Yes? 328 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, why not? 329 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: Right? 330 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: Because here's the thing. Every time we breathe in, unless 331 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: you're in a cleanly ventilated closed system. Yeah, every time 332 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: we're breathing in. You're breathing in at least ten to 333 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: at least thirty different mushroom spores, So why don't mushrooms? No, 334 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: it's okay, like breathe it in, Come on, come on, okay, okay, right, 335 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: So then the question is, you know, I know, is 336 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: I ask this and I get some funny answers, But 337 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: it's really simple. Why don't mushrooms grow inside of us? 338 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: We're too warm for them. 339 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: Yes, our temperatures are hot enough to inhibit its growth, 340 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: but they can survive pretty warm temperatures. 341 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad spores aren't germinating and growing in 342 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: my lungs, but I do know we have them on 343 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: our skin. We have a microbiome, so fun Guy exists 344 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: in our scalps, our hands, our feet, and you know, 345 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: instead of just the two of us, it's just the 346 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: three of us, fun God, bacteria and ourselves. And sometimes 347 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, that balance gets out of line, and that's 348 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: when you start to see yeast or some other component 349 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: like growing too much. So when you see babies having 350 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: thrush all that white stuff in their mouth, or some 351 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: types of dandruff and acne are caused by yeast overgrowing 352 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: like Malicesia is the name of that yeast. 353 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: Wow, I did not know that. 354 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the cool thing about this dance we call 355 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: life and the dance that we have here in the universes. 356 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: Not everything is a giver, some things are takers. But 357 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: in some way, the levels of which these relationships are working, 358 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: it can create a whole organ system. For example, I 359 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: think you alluded to a perfect fact that our body 360 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: actually carries more helpful bacteria than not just the majority 361 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: of these bacteria or parasitic in nature and actually giving 362 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: us something back. They're helping us live. And of course, 363 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: when you have this imbalance between givers and takers, right 364 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: between these parasites that are just exploiting and not giving 365 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 3: us much back, this imbalance creates a wreck in the body, 366 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: and we see that in the form of rashes and 367 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: fungal infections and disease and illness. Right, But a healthy 368 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: symbiotic system is a body that has healthy parasites. 369 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: You know. 370 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: And some people may be put off by this, and 371 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: I get that, but honestly, it's really the reality. 372 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: That's such a good point. 373 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm on TikTok, I'm a I won't say I'm a TikToker, 374 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 2: but I'm a TikTok watcher, and I feel like I 375 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: am on the mushroom side of TikTok where everybody's talking 376 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: about all these different mushrooms that can help you. Like 377 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 2: you mentioned that in the earlier on in our conversation, 378 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: Lions Maine. That's the one that's been creeping up a 379 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: lot on my for you page, And I feel like 380 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: people like the videos I'm seeing. I'm like, yeah, I 381 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: started taking lines made. Now is it a placebo I 382 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: don't know. 383 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Even if it. 384 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: Is, it's working, Oh wonderful. But that's the one that 385 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: I hear about a lot, is Lines Maine mushroom. 386 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: It is a huge boom right now. What's going on 387 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: with the mushroom herbal medicinal space, right You have companies 388 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: coming out of the woodwork touting whatever remedies, whatever benefits 389 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: for their latest mushroom supplement and their latest mushroom. It's great. 390 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: The best way I would say is to keep yourself 391 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: informed and keep yourself protected obviously by you know, getting 392 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: in touch with Hyser Georgia. If you need a company 393 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 3: to be reviewed, of course, get in touch with us. 394 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: Oh but perfect. 395 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, of course, But I would say that generally 396 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: you want to get in the habit of understanding the 397 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: dosages that these companies are working with, because that's really 398 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: the whole playing field here that they're weeding through the companies. 399 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: In general, we know for sure that these mushrooms are 400 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: backed up scientifically with clinical research. Quarter steps enhance energy 401 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: and it speeds up recovery great because it has these 402 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 3: compounds known as polysaccharites that can help your immune system 403 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: benefit our health. So the main compounds that we derive 404 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: from these mushrooms think of your turkey tail, your Lion's maine, 405 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: your rati mushrooms, your quarter steps. These have unique groupings 406 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: of polysaccharides that either help strengthen our immune system, help 407 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: us fight against illness, help us provide energy. Taga is 408 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: one of the best mushrooms for information. Well, I think 409 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: it's the best mushroom for information, something like Lion's Main, 410 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: which is hands down the best mushroom for combating neurodegenerative diseases. Right, 411 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 3: health is a layered thing. Mushrooms can be used to 412 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: target the gut, They can be used to target the brain, 413 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: They can be used to target the heart for example. 414 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: I mean, this wouldn't be your primary treatment modality. But 415 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: try to think about what it is you want right, 416 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: what it is you're looking to enhance or optimize within 417 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 3: your system? Is it brain health? Is it focus? Is 418 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: it energy? Is it gut health? Is it better sleep 419 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: and move modulation? Because they are specific mushrooms that can 420 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 3: really help you get closer towards this at a much 421 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: faster rate. 422 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: Do you have to eat these mushrooms raw in order 423 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: to get the benefits? 424 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: When we speak about medicinal mushrooms, we take a bit 425 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: of a different perspective. These are generally found in a 426 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: heart like texture once these mushrooms fruit, so some of 427 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: them are already hard. Think of your raichi mushrooms, your 428 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: turkey tail mushrooms, your you know, cordus steps aren't necessarily hard, 429 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: but they're usually dried out and a lot of these 430 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: are turned into powders. 431 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: Right. 432 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: Taga is really hard Lion's made. Although it's very fleshy 433 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: and moist, it's usually dried out and turned into a powder, 434 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: And so these are usually turned into powders and then 435 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: used in the form of teas. Now for something like 436 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: the tinstures. They're using certain chemical compounds to dissolve the 437 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: mushroom and this liquid and this is what we get 438 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: and as the concentrated form of this, mushrooms medicinal properties. 439 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 3: And so that's how the tinctures are made. But primarily 440 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: a lot is turned into powder. Tinctures are sort of 441 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: less in volume in the market. And then apart from 442 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: the tinctures, you have the powders. And then the powders 443 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: could be turned into capsules, okay, or or they're like yes, 444 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: but generally powder formed and then tea or you know, 445 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: directly turned into a tincture. 446 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: I think this just has me even more excited to 447 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: finally start my mushroom forging. I won't be eating anything, wrang, 448 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: I actually won't be picking anything. I'll just be taking 449 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: pictures and tagging hikes of Georgia. 450 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: Wait until after our workshop, I think you'll you'll definitely 451 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: feel a lot more confident. 452 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: And Hikes of Georgia workshop. 453 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: This was a really beautiful lab because it helped me 454 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: get out of the binary. The last of us had 455 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: me side eyeing my krimini mushrooms. You know, I like 456 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: them in my eggs. I like and with my chick 457 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: I like mushrooms with everything. I like it on my pizza. 458 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: But after watching that, I was like, maybe I need 459 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: to be a little bit more careful looking futy in 460 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: the light. 461 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: And then even when thinking about breathing in spores, like 462 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: maybe we are just a messy blob of sales carrying 463 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: other organisms on our backs. Like everything is yuckie. 464 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: There's stuff everywhere. 465 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: I know, the deeper you go into it, the more 466 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: convoluted it gets. And that's the beautiful thing, you know. 467 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: It reminds me of that quote. You gaze into this 468 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: abyss and the abyss gazes back, and it's this beautiful 469 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: process of you know, uncovering. Within the last two decades, 470 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: we've had a proliferation in DNA sequencing processes being amortized 471 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: across the globe. What this means is that we have 472 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: much more of an accurate way we can categorize these 473 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: mushrooms that were formerly unknown to us within their taxonomical 474 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: categorization to the highest degree of certainty. And so now 475 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: there are countless mushrooms being reclassified. Their countless mushrooms that 476 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: are being found. I believe within the next twenty to 477 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: thirty years, they are going to be even more edible 478 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: and medicinal mushrooms that we can talk about because the 479 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: classification technology has just gotten much better than what it 480 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: was before. 481 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: I think that that is a great way to say it. 482 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: I wonder what's next. Is it that we just haven't 483 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: found something that can do what they're doing on the 484 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: less of us? I don't know. Let's don't get into that. 485 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: If you're in Georgia and interested in learning more, be 486 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: sure to check out Ranger Darling and Hikes of Georgia 487 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: to see the workshops they're offering and guide it tours 488 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: so you can forge your own mushrooms. Zekiah, I'm packing 489 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: my bag now, scoot over, let's go. 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