1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me as always is 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant with this freakishly big fingertips that 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: I just noticed. I don't know what you're talking about. 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it now and it doesn't look any 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: different than any other fingertip I've ever seen. Hold your 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: hand up. That is big. This is on the middle finger. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: It gives me an advantage of traffic. Yeah. I met 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: a girl once, um who actually had she I can't remember. 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: I think she'd like worn out, like her fingers from typing, 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: or she broke it or she did something, and she 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: actually had that splint like this, like her middle finger 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: sticking up. I was like, I envy you, right, you 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: know you can get a splint and do that and 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: just tell people I could. I'm very lazy though, Sure so, Chuck, 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: how you doing great? God a, you're getting ready for Christmas? Yeah, 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: this is our last couple of shows here before we break, 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: and actually this will come out in two thousand eleven. Yeah, 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: mind meld. But this is this is what's really going 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: on in our world right now, Chuck. You remember Norman Borlog, 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: I know this is this is unique Nobel Prize winning 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I guess agriculturist, botanist. He is. He was responsible for 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: the green revolution, which, ironically, the people of the green 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: environmental revolution like to point out, is like the scourge 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: of the environment because basically what Borlog did in the forties, 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: I think the fifties and sixties, there was a lot 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: of um famines predicted, right, Apparently up to a billion 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: people were predicted to die because the agriculture head reached 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: its carrying capacity, which is the number of people that 32 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: can support I think, without any help whatsoever, agriculture can 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: support like um, a couple of billion people something like that, Right, 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: And we'd reached that point, or we were about to, 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: and everybody was about to be in big trouble, and 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: then Borlog steps in just at the nick of time, 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: goes down to Mexico, basically forces wheat to evolve super 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: quickly so that you have these high, high yields over 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: very small areas. More output exactly um, but like se 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: more output UM and literally saves about a billion lives. 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: That's what he's credited with. The problem is he's also 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: credited with creating these really intensive agriculture techniques that pollute 43 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: water sheds from you know, intensive fertilizer and pesticides. Um. 44 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: These things don't just grow on their own, like. It 45 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: requires a lot of intensive farming. Right. I didn't know 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: if there was a downside to his work. I know, 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of weird to think about, but yeah, 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: he's actually kind of a whipping posts or um for 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: the the environmental movement. He just passed away this last year, right, 50 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: uh yeah, within the last year too. Yeah, I think 51 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: he was last year, maybe two thousnine, um. But yeah, 52 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: so he's kind of he's been vilified unfairly in my opinion, 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: for creating a lot of ecological problems. I think when 54 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: you say that, you missed that he saved about a 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: billion lives, you know. Um. But there's also possibly one 56 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: other thing that he created inadvertently with his green revolution, 57 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: and that is what we call Celiac disease. Interesting, yeah, 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: because this this will think think about this Celiac disease, 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: which is an allergy or an autoimmune disorder that results 60 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: from an allergy to gluten. But it is an autoimmune 61 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: disorder though it's not a food allergy. It's an autoimmune 62 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: disorder brought on by a food allergy. Okay um. But 63 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: a study I think from two thousand nine found that 64 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: it's UH that gluten allergies or seal the act disease 65 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: is UM about four point five times more common now 66 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: than it was fifty years ago. And a lot of 67 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: people suspect that it it's because wheats become such a 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: staple crop that it's found everywhere, and so since we're 69 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: more exposed to it than ever thanks to this green revolution, um, 70 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: we have started to develop this disorder because of it now, 71 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: so is bore logs uh was his plan or not? 72 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: Obviously it wouldn't plan, but was his technique of making 73 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: the wheat and more yield high yield? Did that actually 74 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: increase the amount of gluten? I would imagine so, because 75 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: there's just more weeks. But I think also what's behind 76 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: it is wheat is everywhere because in the West there's 77 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: so much of it that we just use it for everything. 78 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: Because and we'll see in a minute, it shows up 79 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: in some pretty random places that wouldn't notice, Yes, that 80 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: you wouldn't notice. Well, you could put some wheat and 81 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: water and drink it. Well, yeah, wheat water right, also 82 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: called beer wheat water. I'm gonna order one of this 83 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: next time we're going to a bar. Yeah, can I 84 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: have some wheat water kind of wheat water. I'm gonna 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: order fire water when you order wheatwater. Okay, Well that 86 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: would be whiskey or something in firewater liquor whiskey. Yeah, So, Chuck, 87 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: let's talk about Celiac disease. Let's talk about gluten. Let's 88 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: let's just lay it out on the table and see 89 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: what happens. Man. Yeah, because I mean it's all over 90 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the place. Now, it's a big I would say there's 91 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: some controversy because a lot of people are jumping on 92 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: gluten free diets because, like Gwyneth Paltrow said, she lost 93 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: some weight, so people are using it to lose weight, 94 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: which weight Like, she's not two dimensional, she's a sheet 95 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: of paper. Um. So let's talk about the small intestine. 96 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: So if we want to absorb what's going on here 97 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: with this podcast. The small intestine is absorbs nutrients. That's 98 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: what it does. Thanks to little villian there. If you 99 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: have Celiac disease, that means the lining of your intestine 100 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: is destroyed to the point where, uh, it's not doing 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: that job, and the nutrients go straight through to your poop, right, 102 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: And that's just pretty much it. Yeah, it's it's just 103 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: as straightforward as that. Yeah, that's celia. I mean there's 104 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: a lot of twist and turns along the way. Obviously. 105 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: Well one of these is not exactly straightforward. One of 106 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: the um we we absorb nourishment in the small intestine, right, Yeah. 107 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: So one of the side effects of Celiac disease of 108 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: an inability to absorb the nutrient gluten um is malnourishment, 109 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: which also happens if you've had a significant portion of 110 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: your intestines removed. Malnourishment is often a result as well. Yeah, 111 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: and that can lead to potentially anemia, osteoporosis, bad things, 112 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: very bad things. Mal Nourishment just isn't good period. So 113 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people think, well, you know, Celiac disease 114 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: is an allergy to wheat. It is um. But like you, 115 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: like you just pointed out, you can get malnourishment. You 116 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: can develop malnourishment from it um. And it is also 117 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: an autoimmune disorder where the body is warding off something unnecessarily, right, 118 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: like your immune system is not functioning correctly. Yeah, what 119 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: is this? They said that of sufferers have one of 120 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: two histo compatibility leucocyte antigens. Right, So what I take 121 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: from it is that's what they search for when they 122 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: do a blood test disease, right, So I think what 123 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: happens is it's we're exposed to wheat, right, Uh, our 124 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: body mistakes the gluten. Actually, in this case, in Celiac disease, 125 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: our body mistakes the protein we make ourselves for the 126 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: enzyme we make ourselves that breaks down gluten as a 127 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: foreign invader. Gluten is a protein, and we even said 128 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: that I don't know gluten is a protein. Yes, it's 129 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: a protein, we should say, yeah, found specifically in wheat 130 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: bar early and rye. Yeah right, okay, yeah, okay. But 131 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: the weird thing about Celiac disease is our body is 132 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: not even warding off the gluten. It's warding off the 133 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: enzyme our body makes to break down the gluten. So 134 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: it's all kinds of confused, right, So we're introduced to 135 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: we here's some gluten our body produces and time to 136 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: go break it down. Some of our immune system goes, whoa, wha, 137 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: what's going on? Forms antibodies that are that are um 138 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: developed just to destroy these enzymes that break down gluten. 139 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: So then anytime we're exposed to gluten again these enzymes 140 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: are produced, our immune system mounts a defense unnecessarily and 141 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: therefore we we this As a result, the gluten is 142 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: not broken down. It passes through the stool or the poop, 143 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: as you said, And um, we're malnourished because the villa 144 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: just basically lies down on the job or is destroyed 145 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: all together. And about one and one hundred and thirty 146 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: three people suffer from it. But it is under diagnosed 147 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: because it can mistake You can mistake it for irritable 148 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: irritable bowel syndrome. Yeah. Well, let's talk about the bowel symptoms. Right. 149 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: There's um, you can have an upset tummy, irritable bowel syndrome. Um. 150 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: You can also have chronic diarrhea, which is one of 151 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: the worst kinds of diarrhea. Yeah, I would say the worst. 152 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: You can lose weight even though you're eating just a 153 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: normal diet. Right, Um, foul smelling bowel movements. Yeah, what 154 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: what is that all about? It means your poop stinks bad? Yeah, 155 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: but I mean does not always. I think that this 156 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: is like even in the notice, in the realm of poop. 157 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: This is bad like dad poop, except without the tang 158 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: of shaving cream also mixed in with it. Right, it's funny. 159 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: There's a break like when you're a little baby. It's 160 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: like the worst thing on earth. And then I remember 161 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: being a kid specifically and might go and ask my 162 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: dad a question. Then he would just open the door 163 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: and I would be like, oh my lord, what is 164 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: happening in there? I wonder what it is? So I 165 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: would say, then your poop smells best between the ages 166 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: of like two, and so if you're ever gonna have 167 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to smell poop, do it during those ages. Right, this 168 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: is going downhill fast. There's also some non bowel related symptoms. Well, 169 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: excessive gas. We didn't say that. Oh yeah, that's a 170 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: big one, toot um. The non bowel related symptoms are 171 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: like muscle cramps, joint pain, uh, irritability, and depression, which 172 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: I think actually are probably comorbid with smelly poop. Fue. Yeah, yeah, 173 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: you're just like, oh God, I can't take this more. 174 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: A A one unmistakable sign is a well, not unmistakable 175 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: because it could be other things, but a skin rash 176 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: known as dermatitis herpetiformists and that's like blistering and itching 177 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: on the elbows and knees and your but yeah, so 178 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: if you've got that going on, you may want to 179 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: get that looked into. And then part of the big 180 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: problem with Celiac disease um like if you go to 181 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: a doctor and say, my poop smells really bad. I 182 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: often have chronic diarrhea, I'm irritable, gassy, and I have 183 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: joint pain, and I have this rash. The doctors can 184 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: be like, you have Celiac disease. You may also be asymptomatic. 185 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: And this is where it's it's a problem because if 186 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: the symptoms are UM, you know, not too terrible, like 187 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: you can deal with it and you don't even really 188 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: think about it. Or if you're asymptomatic, entirely your your 189 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: small intestine is still being ravaged by UM, this autoimmune 190 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: disorder that you have. Yes, you may not feel terrible, 191 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 1: but it's it's wrecking you. Yeah, you're gonna become malnoursed 192 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: you're at risk for in India and osteoporocess and all 193 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: this other stuff as well. Well. One stat that's in 194 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: this article. Um I think Molly Edmonds wrote this, right, 195 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: she did, of stuff Mom never told you, and our 196 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: our chief medical correspondent. Uh. For every person that is diagnosed, 197 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: about thirty people habit and are undiagnosed. Yeah, that's that's huge. 198 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: That's huge underdiagnosis. So they think you're just gassy and 199 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: fatigued and irritable. Right. And one of the problems why 200 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: or one of the reasons why it's so underdiagnosed, as 201 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these symptoms mimic other um more or 202 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: other better understood disease like cystic fibrosis. Yeah, we mentioned 203 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: IBS and Cron's disease, which I thought was interesting, which 204 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: I think is related somehow, is it? Though? They usually 205 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: have to take out part of your intestine for chron disease. Uh. 206 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: So Molly suggests, you know, to be your own advocate, 207 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: which is always a good idea and because a lot 208 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: of doctors will bypass that. But I bet these days 209 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: doctors are hearing more and more from people saying I 210 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: think I might have Celiac disease, right, and also a 211 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of people as Celiac disease and the idea of 212 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: gluten and eating a gluten free diet, which as it 213 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: stands right now is the only treatment for Celiac disease. 214 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Is eating a gluten free diet. Um is more and 215 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: more people are become aware of it. I think a 216 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people are starting to adopt 217 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: that um not only because of celia disease, a lot 218 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: of people consider it to be healthier. Yeah, that possibly 219 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: gluten is responsible for the widespread depression, murder rates, like 220 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: everything that's wrong with the world, it can be traced 221 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: to gluten or case in, which is I think, what 222 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: the what is the responsible party for lactose intolerance? Right, 223 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: It's a lot of people are eating what's called gluten 224 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: free casein free diets, right, Well, gluten, you can have 225 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: a gluten sensitivity without having Celiac disease, So that's important 226 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: to point out. Without having full blown Celiac disease, you 227 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: can't have a sensitivity to it. But the things that 228 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 1: I've read say that if you don't have a sensitivity 229 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: to it and you're not celiac, you're not Celiac disease, 230 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: then there's really no reason to avoid it, and a 231 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: lot of it is. It's sort of the fad now, yeah, 232 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: it is, but it makes you wonder. Sometimes the mob 233 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: mentality is correct. You know. Um, if you do think 234 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: you have Celiac disease though, and you're considering adopting a 235 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: glute and free diet, hold off and actually go to 236 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: the doctor first, that you want to be properly diagnosed. Um, 237 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: because once you start, once you adopt the gluten free diet, 238 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: it's going to mess with the results of the blood test. Yeah, 239 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: you can actually show a false positive for celiac because 240 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: you're avoiding gluten in the blood. Or no, it won't 241 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: show up. Oh no, I thought it said you can 242 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: appear to have Celiac disease. Oh see what I took 243 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: from it is that you it won't show up because 244 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: your body is not producing the antibodies that they look 245 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: for in the blood test. Because adopting a gluten free 246 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: diet is so um effective that your body starts healing 247 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: itself pretty quickly. Am I wrong? I don't know. You know, 248 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: it just says it can distort the blood test, So 249 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: it just messes. It just messes with it one way 250 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: or the other. Right, So, if you want to be 251 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: diagnosed with celiac disease, I think you have it. Go 252 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: get diagnosed, and then adopt the gluten free lifestyle. And 253 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: that is the good news that, um, you're gonna stop 254 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: experiencing symptoms in the first within a couple of days, 255 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: possibly a week or so, and then your small intestine 256 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: will begin to repair itself and function correctly. Yeah, because 257 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: it's really it's just the gluten that your body's reacting to. 258 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: And if there's no gluten, hey, yeah, they call it disease. 259 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: I guess it qualifies, but it's to me it's more 260 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: of a condition. If you can just quit eating gluten, 261 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: it will repair itself, although it's uncurable, so I guess 262 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: it is technically disease. And we talked about UM diets, right, 263 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: the gluten free case and free diet is actually UM 264 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: A lot of parents of autistic kids, which, by the way, 265 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: I checked with the guy who has an autistic kid, 266 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: and he said it's cool to call him autistics yet 267 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: autistics rather than people with autism or both. He said 268 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: he thought it was he'd been doing it for the 269 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: last twenty years, So that's just his opinion, right, but 270 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: at the very least he won't be offended. But there's 271 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: a certain amount of logic to UM feeding kids with 272 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: autism a gluten free case and free diet, And basically 273 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: the logic behind in it is that kids with autism 274 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: overproduced certain peptides that break down these things, and for 275 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: some reason, this process in the brain treats these the 276 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: compounds when they're broken down as opiates and cause kids 277 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: to behave differently from other kids, which apparently explains autism. 278 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: And it's it's not vetted enough. There haven't been enough 279 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: studies apparently to prove or disprove it, but that there's 280 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: a lot of parents of autistic kids who are not 281 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: feeding them gluten or case and well, we're just learning 282 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: so much about autism now we need to do that 283 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: as a podcast at some point. Oh, definitely, because all 284 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: the controversy around the UH shots that kids get causing 285 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: autism and stuff like that. Yeah, there's and it still 286 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: remains even after that one doctor who basically started that 287 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: whole thing was completely discredited. Yeah, well, there's just so 288 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: much cynicism and UM suspicion towards you know, the establishment. 289 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: So we'll we'll do autism. We're promising that. Uh. So 290 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about the fact that gluten products are 291 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: lousy with this stuff these days. It's obviously if it's 292 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: in wheat, barley and rye, it's gonna be in any 293 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: kind of baked good with this stuff, crackers, pasta, cereal bread. Um. 294 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: But it's also and some weird things, not weird things, 295 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: but it's weird that it's in these things, like salad 296 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: dressing is so weird, Uh, salad dressing, soy sauce, peanut butter, 297 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: ice cream, pudding, lipstick and toothpaste, beer, obviously, vitamins, an 298 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: envelope adhesive. Yeah, which makes me wonder is that when 299 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: she has like a really heightened uh gluten allergy perhaps So, Yeah, 300 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: it's in all those things. Obviously any kind of anything 301 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: made with flour, so you don't might not think about 302 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: soup like a chowder or a gravy that's sticking with flower. 303 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to live if I couldn't eat gravy. Yeah, 304 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: you can want to live a vy free life. Either 305 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: that or my my bowel movements would stink because I 306 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: would not stop eating gravy. What's the point If you 307 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: can't eat gravy, what's the point of eating anything. I'm 308 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: with you, either you do the dark brown gravy or 309 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: like the light brown, pretty anything. I prefer brown gravy, 310 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: like dark brown like KFC. Yes, but I will eat 311 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: any gravy really, alright. Uh. The other good thing about 312 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: the fact that gluten is all over everyone's radar now, 313 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: UM is that if you do want to live a 314 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: gluten free life, it's a lot easier now too, because 315 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: there's tons of products now that are touting being gluten 316 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: gluten free, including gluten free beer. Yeah. What do you 317 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: know the brands? It was curious about that. No, but 318 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: there's there's there's several out there. I think Terrapin, one 319 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: of our breweries from beloved Athens, Georgia, has a gluten 320 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: free beer. I think, yeah, I think there's that. Several 321 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: brands have started to UM carry to produce gluten free beer. 322 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: Because really all you need is is some sort of 323 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: starch to get things going. It doesn't have to be wet. 324 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: You should consumably use rice. There's also a soy vodka 325 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: that's awful, but it's out there. UM because think about it, 326 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: gluten vodka is often made from grain, and you're in 327 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: big trouble with with whiskey vodka. They I have had it. 328 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: It was one of the few shots free shots I've 329 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: ever given back in my life. It was now when 330 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: you mean give it back, you spit it back at 331 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: the bar to no. Um. I grabbed two and I 332 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: did one and actually caught the the girl who was 333 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: handing him out attention and put it back on the tray. 334 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Put the little test tuo back in the thing. Bad. Uh. 335 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: What was I gonna say, Josh, oh, if you're eating out, 336 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to talk to your waiter or chef. 337 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: And a lot of you know, trendy restaurants these days 338 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: have a little gluten free sections too, because everyone thinks 339 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: that they're they have celia because he's now well right well. 340 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: And not only that, there's a lot of people out 341 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: there who, like you said, think it's healthy. It's it's 342 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: kind of the fad. So there's strengthen numbers as far 343 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: as consumer ship goes UM And apparently between two thousand 344 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: and two, No, two thousand four and two thousand nine, 345 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: in five years UM, the amount of gluten free products 346 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: on the market increase, according to the neil Thing Company. Well, 347 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: and they know what they're talking about. Well, they want 348 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: to make a buck. Well it's who the neil Thing company. No, 349 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: just people that make the products that you consume. They 350 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: want to make a buck. So they know that gluten 351 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: free is a big deal, so they slap gluten free 352 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: on there and obviously remove the gluten. I'm not saying 353 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: they're lying to everyone. You know, Mellow Mushroom has a 354 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: gluten free pizza. Of course they do. Uh. Molly points 355 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: out that one thing you can do is um instead 356 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: of to try and avoid gluten, just look at a 357 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: list of safe foods that might be easier, just to 358 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: think in the realm of vegetables and fruits, nuts, dry beans, 359 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: milk and get clear soup, no gravy, dairy and by 360 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: the chuck, I want to correct myself corn rice. So 361 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: I re tales sales of gluten free products have increased, 362 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: se not the number of products on the market. Okay, 363 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: retail sales, but still I think that that's directly proportionate 364 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: to the number of products on the market. Also, Josh 365 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: Potato and Chema, I like how you say that, How 366 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: should I say it? I think that's right, okay, instead 367 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: of quinola quella. How I've always said, um, what chuck, 368 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: what happens if you are a Catholic? You're in big trouble, 369 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: aren't you. Yeah? Like it's it's made with with wheat 370 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: and they're not going to bend on that, right, And 371 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: that the the the Pope the Catholic churches actually issued 372 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: a ruling. Pope, Yeah, oh yeah, you're right. He just 373 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: he looks creepy. That's the reason. Okay, I'm glad you 374 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: said that. Um. The the Catholic Church issued a ruling 375 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: on the presence of gluten in the communion wafers and 376 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: said that the true Eucharist bread must be made with wheat. Right. 377 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: Apparently there is a young girl whose um communion was 378 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: nullified by the Catholic Church because she had been she 379 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: had received her first communion as a low gluten wafer, 380 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: which the Protestants have come to embrace. So they said 381 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: they didn't count. They said she's not a Catholic like 382 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: she she didn't. There are several rights to Catholicism. There's baptism, 383 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: first communion, first penance, confirmation, marriage, and last rights right 384 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: and she can still off right. Um, so one of 385 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: her I guess points of Catholicism was literally overturned hers 386 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: personally by the Catholic Church because she had received a 387 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: low gluten wafer. And they wonder why Catholicism is losing 388 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: It's it's a members because they're basically saying to her, 389 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: you're we're forcing you to have stinky poop, little girl, girl, 390 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: we don't care if you can die from this. Well 391 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: it's only one little wafer though. Well the problem also is, um, 392 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: the Protestants have embraced low gluten wafer, but low gluten 393 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mean no gluten, so there's kind of that too. 394 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, people with severe Celiac disease can you know, 395 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: still have a pretty bad reaction to a comedian wafer? 396 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: And check? This is a big deal. I mean it's 397 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: not to you and me, but to you know, devout 398 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: cast who have Celiac disease, this is a big deal. Yeah, 399 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: it's a very important right for them. And it is 400 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: very disappointing that the Church came out and ruled like no, sorry, 401 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: it's like roll with the changes a little bit, you know, 402 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: which is weird because the Church has been known to 403 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, evolve over time, like there used to be 404 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: such a thing as purgatory. Not anymore, according to the 405 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: Catholic Church. But the Eucharist has to be made with wheat. Interesting, 406 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: it is interesting. I think we said the word gluten 407 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: enough now to where it sounds funny to me in 408 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: my head. Yeah, it sounds very Midwest, northern Midwestern gluten. Yeah, 409 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: gluten like sh Morgan's board or something. Do you have 410 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: anything else? I got nothing else, So I mean I 411 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: could keep talking for a while. No, I just say 412 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: if you if you think you have a gluten sensitivity, uh, 413 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: you can. You should go see a doctor, get your 414 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: blood test. I think after the blood test, I'll even 415 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: do a biopsy. If you're small intestin, I guess. And 416 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: if you're a heavy smoker and you're not sure if 417 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: you have a gluten sensitivity, ask a friend or loved 418 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: one who lives with you. They'll tell you, oh, because 419 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: you can't smell, got you. And if you want to 420 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: learn more about Celiac disease, uh, and whether or not 421 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: it's plural, you can type that in C E L 422 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: I A C in the handy search bar at how 423 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com they'll bring up a very interesting 424 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: and concise article by Molly Edmunds who manages to marry 425 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: Greek mythology and autoimmune disorders of the intestine pretty definitely 426 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: really Yeah in the intro, Yeah, since I said a 427 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: handy search bar, that means then it's time for the 428 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: listener mail. Yeah, Josh, I'm gonna call this. Uh, a 429 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: couple of emails from the same girl. Okay, first kiss stuff, 430 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: And then there was an update you'll see what I 431 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: mean from Alison. Yes, guys, you asked for a story 432 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: about a first kiss. I think I have just the one. Uh. 433 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: If you hold on through the cheesy parts, you'll see 434 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: how it all comes back to you. Guys. Is this 435 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: the girl from who had her first kiss at seven? Uh? 436 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Now I already read that one. Yeah, I thought this 437 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: was a follow up. Now this is different girl. When 438 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: I was eighteen, she was a late bloomer too, because 439 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: she was eighteen to late bloomers. I interned for a 440 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: summer in Paris, staying at an international house students in 441 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: turns like she she wasn't allowed to leave parents. She said, 442 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: I met the most wonderful people there, two English brothers 443 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: and an Irishman became my particular friends and we decided 444 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: to go on a weekend trip to Venice, and it 445 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: turned of fortune. Our last night landed me alone on 446 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: a dock in Venice with one of the Brits that 447 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: had shyly been flirting with me for months. It may 448 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: have been pheromones, It may have been that our teeth 449 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: did not smash together here, but my first kiss led 450 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: to my first love. Well, we have been together for 451 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: two years now, all of it long distance. On a 452 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: return vacation to Italy we took last winter, the brit 453 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: introduced me to stuff you should know. I've been hooked 454 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: ever since, and as sad as it may sound, you 455 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: guys helped to stay connected by either sharing of our 456 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: headphones l O L ngto your podcast as we traveled, 457 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: or listening separately before we go to bed and ocean apart, 458 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: only to discuss the newest episode in the morning. Here's 459 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: an update. She sent me an update a couple of 460 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: weeks later. The brit and I actually broke up for 461 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: a few months. Uh with his career about to start 462 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: in London and my graduate studies starting next year in 463 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: New York, and a few other complications. However, he said 464 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: he's made a mistake and he's trying to win me back. 465 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: He's even willing to move to New York for me. Sweet. 466 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: He's just waiting for me to decide if that's what 467 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: I want. And I've been getting me I've been giving 468 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: him a hard time as I make up my mind. Uh. 469 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: I quote directly when he said, listening to Josh and 470 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: Chuck it and I before I go to bed without 471 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: you his torture, Well that it's really sweet. This guy's 472 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: pretty cool. It read a different way listening to Josh 473 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: and Chuck his torture. I told you, Uh, I told 474 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: you that you guys play an important partner lives. To 475 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: make a long story short, I want to give him 476 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: a second chance. He's a love of my life. Would 477 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: there be any chance that you could read my email 478 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: and perhaps let him know that I am still those Wow? 479 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: I just got chills. Chuck so nameless. Brett Alison says 480 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: she still loves you. It sounds like you're moving to 481 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: New York. But it's like the Big Apples calling your 482 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: name my friend. So if you had a secret, I'm sorry, 483 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: not so secret. Kiss on a dock in Venice with 484 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: the girl named Alison. Then then we're talking to you 485 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: because she didn't give a name, so she calls him Britt. 486 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Maybe his name is Britt, maybe Britt from Great Britain. 487 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: So that's it. Wow. Wow, And she since bugged me 488 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: a couple of times like, are you gonna read it? 489 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: It's like, have you not talked to him? Right? Yeah? 490 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Refusing to contact him until it comes out. It's weird. 491 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Well I hope they don't. Actually, I hope he doesn't 492 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: move on because he didn't because we didn't publish fast enough. Wow. Wow. 493 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: I can't even think of something to call for. That 494 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: was really sweet. Um. If you've ever been on a 495 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: boat that started sinking, we want to hear about it. Yes, 496 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: hopefully the brit will be flying actually to New York 497 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: rather than sailing a steamership here. If you've ever been 498 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: on a boat that started sinking, Uh, we want to 499 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: hear about that story. You should probably just go ahead 500 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: and put it in an email and you can address 501 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: that email to Stuff podcast at how stuff works dot com. 502 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: For more on this and thousands of other topics. 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