WEBVTT - How Currency Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerry all Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes the stuff you Should Know. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>had one of those? Uh? I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted one, but when I was a kid, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>one of those coined things you want your hip to

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<v Speaker 1>make change. I wanted one of those worse than anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think like a peanut vendor. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when I said whatever was at six flags whatever

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw those things, I just thought it was boss.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really funny. And I don't think I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>you could buy them for like three bucks or else.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have bought a bunch of them. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's not much to them. It's just like the thing's

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<v Speaker 1>not counting anything when you press it with your thumbs releases.

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<v Speaker 1>But each one, you know your quarters. They have different sizes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you can just without even look and

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<v Speaker 1>you could go, here's three quarters, buddy. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's getting for Christmas this year. I just thought of

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<v Speaker 1>that out of nowhere. I haven't remember that since I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid. I was obsessed with those things for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while. Well, you know what, you're technically obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with a dispenser of currency. How's that seed that one up? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>knocked it out of the part. I collected banks too,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a weird thing for a kid to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Banks like piggy banks. Yea even No, none of them

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<v Speaker 1>were piggybanks. What was your favorite one? Oh? Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>still have the collection. My mom's got them. Um wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if they're worth any money? And I doubt it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was like a Garfield Bank and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>uh opus the penguin Eric Davis? Now was it Opus

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<v Speaker 1>from Bloom County? How am I blanking out on that?

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<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite comic. I don't know that sounds right, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm losing it, buddy. So the penguin from Bloom County,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going with that. I was obsessed with Bloom County

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<v Speaker 1>and then Change Counters and Biggiebanks. Cool. That was my childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dale Murphy not Eric Davis? Now, who's that? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>for the Reds? Oh? The Reds player? Yeah? He was great, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it he as a non Reds fan, I

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<v Speaker 1>was an Eric Davis fan, I'm with you. Where are

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<v Speaker 1>you obsessed with? I like baseball, baseball cards? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>anything mad magazines? Yeah? Me too? Those are still I

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<v Speaker 1>think at my dad's house. They'd better be. You still

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<v Speaker 1>got him? Uh? What else did I collect? I saved

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<v Speaker 1>up my sports illustrated for years too. Um. And remember

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<v Speaker 1>the first one I ever got had Muhammad Ali on

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<v Speaker 1>the cover. That's how old I am. It was during

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<v Speaker 1>his comeback, and when he was like fat and mustachioed.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't call it come back. It was not not much

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<v Speaker 1>of one. That's not how that goes. Uh, how's that

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<v Speaker 1>first side track to get us going? I haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>done the intro. Let's hear it? So the intro is

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<v Speaker 1>as follows Chuck in two thousand thirteen New York Magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>not the New York Times, not New Yorker, New York Magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an equally good publication in that time out

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, not the Village Voice, all right, Just

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<v Speaker 1>New York Magazine. Um, which is actually where the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Fever came from. It came from an article

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<v Speaker 1>that was later admitted to be completely fabricated by the author. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in that magazine. Anyway, New York Magazine ran a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting article in January called um Or January two team

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<v Speaker 1>called SuDS for Drugs, and it talked about how there's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge black market for tide laundry detergent, specifically liquid

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<v Speaker 1>tide in the United States. Yeah, they do not make

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore. No, they make plenty of it, but tons

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<v Speaker 1>of it gets stolen. And the reason why is tied

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<v Speaker 1>is such an agreed upon great laundry detergent that tied

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<v Speaker 1>and only tied. Like if you tried to use gain

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<v Speaker 1>or um all or anything like that, you would it

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<v Speaker 1>turned away. But if you have a jug of Tide

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<v Speaker 1>liquid laundry detergent, you can buy drugs in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States with it. It is agreed upon as a currency.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea even though you can just buy

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<v Speaker 1>it in the store. Yeah, that's that's the part I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get, because if you're a crackhead and you steal

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<v Speaker 1>a carton of them, then all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to pay for this tide and you can

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<v Speaker 1>use it to buy drugs. Interesting, why don't use any

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff? And I don't mean to pick on

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<v Speaker 1>just crackheads. If you're a junkie. Same thing. Sure, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a gambling habit. Yeah, we've man, we got

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of crap from a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>people by using about using the word junkie. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty derogatory if you think about it. I guess, well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a word with a definition which means something,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what it means. I mean, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>we were just like slagging people. Yeah, no, I get

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<v Speaker 1>what they're saying, though. You're saying like it's just such

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<v Speaker 1>a dismissive term of anyone who's addicted. It really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of flies in the face of the disease model of addiction. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to talk to the people who call us

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<v Speaker 1>out on that. I get it. But the point is

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<v Speaker 1>tiede is now a currency as like remember our prison

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<v Speaker 1>episode where we talked about how honey buns are currency. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, right, cigarettes currency, deer skins, Yeah, those were

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<v Speaker 1>currency once. That's where we get the word bucks from.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you're getting at. Oh, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to get to that stuff later. Okay, etymology, I love

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Um, I think what you're trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>is that or what you are saying is that currency

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing more than the medium of exchange in a

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<v Speaker 1>substitute for something, a good, or a service. It is

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<v Speaker 1>an agreed upon that's the key. Yeah, it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be agreed upon. Yeah, you can't be like I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you five Lincoln logs for a car. Well that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you do when you're a kid, right, and you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I want Linkol logs, and everybody goes,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you do, right. But if the other person says

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<v Speaker 1>those Lincoln I don't want Lincoln logs, then what you

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<v Speaker 1>have are Linkol logs, not a currency, because it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be mutually agreed upon, like you say, like dollar bills. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone off on this on our show about the

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<v Speaker 1>amazing fact that this paper we have all agreed is

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<v Speaker 1>worth something, and as the only reason it's worth something

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<v Speaker 1>that people dedicate their lives to pursuing paper is is

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<v Speaker 1>as ephemeral as a cloud. Almost. Ye, not the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>analogy you I've made, but it's still kind of works.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So let's let's talk on olden days and

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<v Speaker 1>currency as a substitute for things. Um, what currency did

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<v Speaker 1>was solved the problem. It allowed you to give change

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<v Speaker 1>and make change. Yeah, that's a that's a big one

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<v Speaker 1>because back in the day, if you had a bushel

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<v Speaker 1>of corn and you wanted a chicken, you would go

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<v Speaker 1>to your neighbor. Well, you had to find somebody they

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<v Speaker 1>had a chicken that on a corn. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>first problem. That's a problem. But what if you do

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<v Speaker 1>find someone, You're like, great, my neighbor's got a chicken

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got this corn. He wants this corn, he

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<v Speaker 1>wants the corn, but he says, you know what, this

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<v Speaker 1>chicken is worth a lot more than that corn. Somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>getting a bad deal until you can make change. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because what if you could. That's not the best example

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<v Speaker 1>because you could take out some of the corn. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you can't chop a chicken. Yeah, well you got

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<v Speaker 1>a cow. Your neighbor has a chicken, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an even trade. But you just need one chicken and

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<v Speaker 1>your neighbor just needs one cow. You can't make change

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You can't make change. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first roles that currency it's fulfilled, was a way

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<v Speaker 1>to make change, to make trade more equal. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>before that, I think there were a lot of bad

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<v Speaker 1>deals going down out of desperation. You know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>your family really needed that chicken for a reason, you

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<v Speaker 1>might end up taking a bad deal just because you

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<v Speaker 1>need that chicken. You give your cow away for that chicken. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your family would berate you. That's right. Where's

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<v Speaker 1>the milk, honey? Yeah, this is like the magic beans

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<v Speaker 1>and sit in all over again. Can't milk a chicken, honey?

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<v Speaker 1>You get berated by your wife. Another reason that currency

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<v Speaker 1>uh became popular is because it allowed you for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time to really amass wealth. Because you can harvest

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<v Speaker 1>all the corn you want, but that corn is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go bad unless you can find a way to trade

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<v Speaker 1>it in. A barn full of rotten corn does no

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<v Speaker 1>one any good. It doesn't make you any richer, like

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<v Speaker 1>in in practice. Practically speaking, you would be an extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy person if you had tons of corn in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you said, it's gonna go bad, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could lose all all your wealth would literally rot away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the case with say a gold coin. Gold

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<v Speaker 1>coins aren't gonna go bad and deteriorate. So there that

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<v Speaker 1>stand in for those enormous stocks of corn. Because you

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<v Speaker 1>had all that corn and then you traded it for

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<v Speaker 1>gold coins. So what you did was you took your

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<v Speaker 1>wealth of corn and stored it into something of equal value,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case gold coins. Yeah, and that had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge impact on civilization because the most powerful people were

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<v Speaker 1>not just the ones who held the political and military influence.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, if you could accumulate wealth, then

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<v Speaker 1>you could buy that jump. Yeah. It gave rise to

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<v Speaker 1>the merchant class, and it democratized. Is that the word?

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<v Speaker 1>It democratized the world. It did because before it was

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<v Speaker 1>like you were born into a wealthy, noble family and

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<v Speaker 1>that's gain power. And if you weren't t yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>meant that you worked the land for this wealthy family.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can sell something and get money in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for it, instead of a cow for a chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>you say that junk up and you buy someone to

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<v Speaker 1>go kill that landowner, and then that's your land. Right. Democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>democracy or uh. They are generally considered to be four

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<v Speaker 1>categories of UM currency. You have commodity currency, coins, paper money,

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<v Speaker 1>and electronic currency these days, and in the commodity system

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<v Speaker 1>it is a placeholder, like we said, um for purchasing power,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is also has value as a thing because

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<v Speaker 1>corn is valuable. Um, it's not just a piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>where in the case of the Aztecs or little cacao

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<v Speaker 1>beans were valuable and so they use those this money.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, one of the problems with that is if

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<v Speaker 1>the person you're trading with doesn't find that valuable, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's worthless. Yeah. Usually within a society, everyone will find

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<v Speaker 1>that commodity currency valuable. Like the Aztecs with cacao. They

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<v Speaker 1>love this stuff. They made chocolate out of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the elixir of the gods, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They drank it right. Yeah. Mina Zuma drank like forty

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<v Speaker 1>cups of it today until he died from drinking too

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<v Speaker 1>much chocolate. Um. But the cankey sitters who came didn't

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<v Speaker 1>value cocow beans at all, so rather than trade, they

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<v Speaker 1>just took everything yeah and dumped the cacao beans because

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<v Speaker 1>it was worthless to them. Yeah, but that is a

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<v Speaker 1>good example of a commodity based currency, Like even if

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<v Speaker 1>even if everything else falls apart, that cocw beans still

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<v Speaker 1>has value and that you can make chocolate out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the society, chocolate is valued ergo they value the

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<v Speaker 1>cocw beans which use it as currency. Plus in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>cocow beans um are easy to carry, so they're portable,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're plentiful and small so you can make change

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Yeah, but not everything was the cacao bean.

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<v Speaker 1>In commodity currency, a lot of stuff is perishable more

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<v Speaker 1>perishable um, a lot of like cattle is super bulky.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't carry on a bunch of cows, goats, goats um.

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<v Speaker 1>But never less, that is a form of commodity currency.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just had its downside. Like the goat has has

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<v Speaker 1>value in and of itself. Yeah, cute, cute milk, meat

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<v Speaker 1>and cute hair and cute and very cute. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get one of those pigmy goats one of these days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna happen. You're gonna come over to my house

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<v Speaker 1>and the little goat is gonna bounce in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Clip clop, You're gonna go. What the Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen the lamb? I showed you that, right, dude, that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably my top five things ever. If you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>be the lamb into YouTube right now. What was it

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<v Speaker 1>a lamb? I think so? I thought it's a pigmy goat.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a lamb. Jerrys this is lamb. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I win. Alright, here's some cocow beans. Nice. Alright, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on. I feel like we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>really good flow going. Okay, so let's interrupted with these messages. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Let's see if we can get the mojo

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<v Speaker 1>back again. All right, the mojo is still flowing because

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<v Speaker 1>our message break in reality was only two seconds long.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our dirty secret. Coins is our next form of currency.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were first minute a minute in Lydia, which

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<v Speaker 1>is modern Turkey, and they're king uh Croasis or crosis.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm gonna make these little small metal ingots.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stamp them with our emblem. And it's six

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<v Speaker 1>for d BC and this is called coins and it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth something. And the Greek said this is great, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Romans said this is great, and they're we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make ours out of silver and gold. So it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>worth something. Although when you think about it, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, worth something because someone says it's worth something. Gold, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. Yeah. I read this Forbes article that

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<v Speaker 1>basically said all currencies a fiat currency. Fiat currency means

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<v Speaker 1>that it has valued by fiat, like the fiat of

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<v Speaker 1>the king a decree um and it says the government

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<v Speaker 1>or the king says this has value. It's it's nine

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<v Speaker 1>seven gold. It's valuable, so go traded as such by fiat. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about the only things that really have

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<v Speaker 1>real value or like food and water pretty much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can make the case that a commodity based

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<v Speaker 1>currency like cocao beans isn't necessarily a fiat currency because

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<v Speaker 1>it does have inherent value that anybody can use. But

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<v Speaker 1>gold is it's not really that valuable. It's not really

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<v Speaker 1>that useful, especially in like a pre industrial society. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if gold first became valuable because it was shiny

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<v Speaker 1>and literally, yes, they could make pretty things with it, honestly, yes, interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly why. Because it's so malleable you

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<v Speaker 1>can't make tools out of it. Even today, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that useful. I mean, they use it in some solid

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<v Speaker 1>state electronics and things, but it's not it's more valuable

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<v Speaker 1>simply because it's go old. Yeah, So even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>backed with gold, it is technically still a fiat currency,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that term f I A T. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does the Fiat car all about? That mean? It's

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<v Speaker 1>just special because they say it is all right? Um

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<v Speaker 1>in China, I thought the Chinese made the first coins,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, yeah, Grabster says that it happened about the

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<v Speaker 1>same time it did in the West fifth century BC.

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<v Speaker 1>They started out oddly with tools like knives, shapes as

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<v Speaker 1>currency with little holes drilled in them so they could

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<v Speaker 1>keep it on a string, and they just shrank over

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<v Speaker 1>the ears until it was about the size of a coin, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought was odd, But they kept a hole

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<v Speaker 1>in there. So even until like the mid nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese coins still where this, these little round coins

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<v Speaker 1>with a hole in the middle so you could string

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<v Speaker 1>them on a string. Yeah, that's because they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the little coin dispenser on the hip they would have

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<v Speaker 1>thought of that, which surprising because the Chinese invented practically everything,

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<v Speaker 1>the coin dispenser, the hip mounting coin dispenser. Did they

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<v Speaker 1>even still make those? Sure they do. I'll bet alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna buy one. Um. If not, Archie McPhee probably

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<v Speaker 1>makes it in an ironic version. So who's that they make? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen all their stuff. They make like funny like

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<v Speaker 1>they were the original, probably like bacon air, freshener, car fresh,

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<v Speaker 1>they make stuff like that. They make horsehead, gotcha, they

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<v Speaker 1>outfit um, they all their stuffs in urban outfitters, probably

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<v Speaker 1>in the chakey section. Yes, all right, I hate them. Then.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, one of the big impacts of coins was

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<v Speaker 1>now the government actually controlled the money supply and could

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate it and say what it's worth. And Roman emperors

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<v Speaker 1>were dumb and said, you know what, We're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>reduce your amount of precious metal and some of these

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<v Speaker 1>because that makes us richer. But that devalued things such

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<v Speaker 1>that it ended up being one of the factors in

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<v Speaker 1>their downfall. Yeah, they didn't quite understand how it worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took thousands of years for anybody to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out really how it worked. But basically, if you still

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<v Speaker 1>know how it works, kind of, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have a better grasp than the early Roman emperors

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<v Speaker 1>because they would say, hey, man, I've got a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of gold, and my predecessors would make ten thousand gold

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<v Speaker 1>coins out of a ton. But I, being as clever

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<v Speaker 1>as I am, I'm going to make twenty thousand gold

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<v Speaker 1>coins out of this ton and double my money. But

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<v Speaker 1>rather than double the money, it devalued the currency and

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<v Speaker 1>led to the decline of the Roman Empire. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, but that's how yeah, And after that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it took a while for coins to come back in fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the Renaissance because in the dark Ages,

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<v Speaker 1>because of a lot of that uh stuff, people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>trust coins, right, and for good reason, because there was

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<v Speaker 1>a someone behind it who could decree the percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>gold in that coin. The thing is is um and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to this later. The powers that be can

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<v Speaker 1>decree value, but ultimately it's up to the general public,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are trading in these things, to determine

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<v Speaker 1>really how valuable they are. There's something called perception of

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<v Speaker 1>value that has to do with just how valuable a

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<v Speaker 1>currency is are not we'll talk about in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what happened in Rome. Uh. Next up, we

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<v Speaker 1>have paper money, or is they call it folding money

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<v Speaker 1>here in the South, and they paper money was first

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<v Speaker 1>developed by the Chinese as well, and they used um,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, buckskin sometimes bark, parchment, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a bill of payment and leather was also used in

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<v Speaker 1>Europe around eleven d which didn't really catch on then.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I think leather money be kind of cool though,

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<v Speaker 1>leather moniture. If you know, if you hate animal, what

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<v Speaker 1>better way to kill more of them? I wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>much a cow would have been worth then, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you while they were using the skin for other stuff anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>good point though. Uh. In Sweden in sixteen sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>they issued paper money, but they didn't quite understand it

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<v Speaker 1>either and flooded the market with it, which made it

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<v Speaker 1>almost worthless as well. Still still had to figure it out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the the uh, I get the desire though, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone says this stuff's worth something, let's just print a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of it exactly. Yeah. Um. So it didn't catch

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<v Speaker 1>on after the Swedish experiment of the seventeenth century, but

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't take too much longer. It was the eighteenth

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<v Speaker 1>century when paper money finally did catch on, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was based on the practice of goldsmiths at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>where if you gave them some gold, they give you

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<v Speaker 1>basically an iou say they were making something out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gold, or they were hanging onto the gold before

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<v Speaker 1>you you had what what It amounts to a promissory

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<v Speaker 1>note saying you bring this I O U back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll give you this amount of gold and return.

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<v Speaker 1>It was basically the first what what's called gold backed

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<v Speaker 1>paper currency. And once banks figured out just how that

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<v Speaker 1>could work in theory and in practice, anybody could start

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<v Speaker 1>issuing currency. Yeah, and um money was backed by gold,

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<v Speaker 1>even right here in the US all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>until nine UM every dollar had and not theory, every

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<v Speaker 1>dollar had gold somewhere, not just dollars. Pretty much any

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<v Speaker 1>paper currency in the world at the time was backed

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<v Speaker 1>by gold, silver, some sort of precious metal that we

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<v Speaker 1>all agreed was valuable because it's shiny. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a stock somewhere in the world that you could trade

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<v Speaker 1>your paper money for that value in gold. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>could go somewhere to the gold tradery say here, I

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<v Speaker 1>want all this money in gold. Did you know That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the the Wizard of Oz is about. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>allegory for the gold standard. Oh man, it's depending on

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<v Speaker 1>who you ask, it's about ten different things. It's an allegory,

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<v Speaker 1>populist allegory for the gold standards. I just posted an

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<v Speaker 1>article about like ten different theories on what Wizard of

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<v Speaker 1>Odds means on our Facebook page, and yours is right

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone else is wrong. Thank you. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I ever want to hear from you. I UM. So,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're on to E money, which is uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like something super new, but it actually came about

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<v Speaker 1>after World War Two when UM banks started recording their

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<v Speaker 1>information of the day onto magnetic reels and taking it

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<v Speaker 1>to the Federal Reserve Bank, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they said, you know, we don't need these silly ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bills because we can just record this all electronically.

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<v Speaker 1>And all it took then was a wire connection and

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<v Speaker 1>trust for people to trust that this really is money,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'm not seeing any money right right then.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the real distinction of it, because with an

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<v Speaker 1>electronic transfer, originally you're transferring information about money, like I

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<v Speaker 1>will I have a hundred thousand dollars over here that

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<v Speaker 1>I officially give to you, and so that that electronic

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<v Speaker 1>transfer becomes a promissory note in and of itself. UM

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<v Speaker 1>and they figured out that they can do this after

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<v Speaker 1>they realize that money in and of itself isn't valuable,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can just do this whole thing electronically. And

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, they did have hundred thousand dollar notes

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently there's some in circulation still. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>hundred of them in circulation. They had five hundred, one thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand, and hundred thousand dollar bills. There's a really

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<v Speaker 1>neat mental floss article that you can read called a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollar Bill, The Story behind Large denomination Currency,

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<v Speaker 1>and it talks all about that. But it was prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the magnetic tapes that were passed from bank to

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<v Speaker 1>bank or that recorded this information, and this is how

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<v Speaker 1>banks would settle up transfers through ten thousand, hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bills. Yeah, and the hundred thousand UM has Woodrow

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson on it and they only made those for about

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. But um, that was never like in the public.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just between banks. Like no, it was never

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<v Speaker 1>in circulation, and it's still there's still around from what

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<v Speaker 1>I understand though. Yeah, there was UM in nineteen I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand nine there were less than four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>five bills, thousand dollar bills, five thousand dollar bills, and

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollar bills um, all between like three and

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred still in circulation, which I thought was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're usually worth frame now, you know, but there

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<v Speaker 1>were way more than their face value. Um. This mental

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<v Speaker 1>Plus article points out that if you have a pristine

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollar bill, it's worth at least ten times that. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they all had different presidents throughout the years.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like a single version of it. Uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a bunch of different versions of all those except

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<v Speaker 1>for the hundred thousand. Yeah, it was always Wilson, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because he just printed it for three weeks, would would he? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder why he got that on her Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, because he was money. He didn't even know it.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh with electronic money. Another few things really helps

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<v Speaker 1>submit that as a as a viable thing. One was

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<v Speaker 1>the first credit card in n Diners Club said you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, rich businessman, here's a piece of plastic, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can impress your friends by not even carrying cash,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, pay for whatever you want with this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll charge you some interest and then you'll

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<v Speaker 1>pay us back. And we got even further from the

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<v Speaker 1>commodity by saying, now you're not even using cash, we're

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<v Speaker 1>using electronic promissory notes by charging this that's the promissory note.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they realized, hey, this shouldn't be just for

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<v Speaker 1>rich dudes, because we can financially cripple everybody exactly. This

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is really neat. So everyone should have a credit card.

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<v Speaker 1>And today there's over two hundred million visas, which started

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety Then the Social Security Administration started doing e

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<v Speaker 1>deposits all the way back in and people kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got used to the idea that all right, I see

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<v Speaker 1>it's in my bank account now, so I trust it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a big step forward. Yeah, it took a

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<v Speaker 1>little while to catch on. But then now it's, like

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<v Speaker 1>the grabster points out, people started paying bills, transferring money

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<v Speaker 1>between accounts, and sending money electronically without ever even touching it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true. Like I hadn't thought about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of money that that I earned and spend.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just like it's never physical ever, that's all my money. Yeah,

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I almost never have or use cash. Like I get

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>paid electronically. It goes to a bank in number, and

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>then I have a American Express that I pay for

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>things with, and then I pay for that electronically and

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trusting that this is. As long as the

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>lights are on, I guess everything's working out right. Exactly

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>basic and basically it's like the future, like what everybody

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.360
<v Speaker 1>talks about in the future, We're not gonna have money,

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have credits. Well, the future is here. Apparently

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>eight percent of the world's currency is in hard like currency.

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>This all sounds so dangerous when you start talking about

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it like that, Like all it takes this one big

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>crash of electronic crash, and what if they were like

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>all that money that you thought you had, it is

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>not here. Now we don't know what happened to it.

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>It's entirely possible. Remember they have the fd I s

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>though yet United States at least remember the early days

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of internet purchases, how distrustful we all were, Yeah, I'm

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>not putting my credit card, I'm not taking that thing in.

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>And it never occurred to us that we hand it

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to like a waiter or you know, whoever that can

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>do anything with it. And then it finally just became

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that's important, just because so many people were doing it

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that the chances of your credit card being stolen um

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>were lower coupled with the fact that it became evident

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that credit card companies were willing to just like white

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 1>clean deaths a crude like that illegally made people a

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 1>lot a lot more trusting of it. I guess. Yeah.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I had a lady in front of me this grocery

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>store the day that wrote a check, and I was

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, were you Just like I know, I

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>longer minute, but I did want to say, like, you know,

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a better way of doing that now checks And

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the last check I wrote. It's been

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>years and years and years since I've written a check

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for me. It's usually like like a government thing like

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>a tag or something, tag tax or something. Yeah, I

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>do all that with my card too. Uh. And then,

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, if you want to talk about the bleeding

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>edge of electronic money, um e g. Bitcoin and that

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, should go listen to our bitcoin episode,

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>which we're told was pretty good. Yeah. I think even

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the guys from pot on pod Our show and they

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>eisode and said we did a good job of explaining it.

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk more about money because that's the topic

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>of this episode right after these messages. So Chuck, we're

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>talking about the gold standard and how that's what the

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Wizard of Oz is about. And um, prior to that,

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>with the gold standard, it was I mean, inflation happened.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>The price of gold fluctuated, so therefore the price of

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>anything pegged to it, like the dollar, would fluctuate too.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.959
<v Speaker 1>With when we abandoned the gold standard officially in nine

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>but prior to that, I think in the thirties is

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>when it really started. Um, we really took a huge

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>leap of faith because there's nothing backing it anymore, Like

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a huge it's a myth that you can take

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>your dollar bill and turn it in for gold. They will,

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>some guys in white coats will come and lock you

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>up in a padded room for a little while. They said,

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you can come and buy this gold ring with your cat.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much you can buy gold bullion with it, but

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you cant yeah, exactly, and we're going to charge you

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>some fees for that too. Um. So once we abandoned

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the gold standard, it was a big leap of faith

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>because um, as Milton Freedman put it, quote, the pieces

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>of green paper have value because everybody thinks they have

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>value as long as we all think together and believe

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>together they will stay valuable. But there are certain times,

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>there's certain occasions and events when we all believe that

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>things become a little less valuable, that currency is a

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>little less valuable than at other times. So this perception

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of value can have an impact on the value of currency.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And the Grabster gives a pretty good example. It's when

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we deflate or deva value currency relative to other currencies,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>which will do sometimes because we want to attract that

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>currency's native investors over here in the US. So like

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>if right now you can buy five francs to the dollar,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>euros five euros to the dollar, um, and we say, what,

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>we want to encourage more investment in Europe. So we're

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna let the dollar devalue um and we're gonna make

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it so it's equal to three euros and then we'll

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>stabilize it. Well, that will encourage more people in Europe

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to invest in the United States because the euro now

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>has more buying power relative to the dollar. But everyone

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>in the in the United States because wtf, we got

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>all these dollars and now it's worthless because you just

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>told us that you're going to make it worth less

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>relative to the euro. Nothing really happened to the dollar

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that everybody agreed literally overnight that the dollar is less

0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>valuable now because it was devalued. That's one way that

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that currency can fluctuate these days. Yeah, I wish I

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>had a better understanding of the when people say what

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the dollar is worth sometimes that just makes my head spin.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I have one for you. You're gonna love this, man.

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's hear it. The Big Mac Index. It's it's exactly

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>what you just said. If you want an understanding of it.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>There is a guy in six who wrote in The

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Economist basically the Big Mac Index, and and it says

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we cover this in uh one of them. We may

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>have done it in their stuff super stuff out to

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the economy. Then that was eighty years ago, though it was.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But what so we'll go over it again. The Big

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Mac Index says the price of an end of a

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>big Mac relative to the price of a big Mac

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>in another country. Right, So it's basically saying you can,

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's tongue in cheek, but it actually does kind

0:31:56.480 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of work. You can you can show the eying power,

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the purchasing power of one um currency relative to another

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>based on how much a big Mat costs in each country.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And once you once you see it and and and

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>look at it like that, you go to the economists

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and type in the big macindext and it will bring

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>this up. And it's an interactive scale um, which makes

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it awesome, and you understand relative purchasing power. Well, I

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>should spend some time on that side, thank you. It

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>will make me hungry. So then the other way that

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>things can devalue is with supply, and that is just

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>basically supplying demand. Like when there's a lot more money available,

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>it by nature becomes less valuable. Yeah, demand is high,

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>prices go up. Demand supplies high prices go down, right,

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's inflation and deflation that goes up, that goes down. Okay,

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.959
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should answer this. Are you watching the

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons every episode marathon? I've tuned in some here and there,

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>But what I've really enjoyed is that in flux of

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>articles about like the best seasons, the best episodes, it's

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>really like a tripped out memory lane. I do not

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>have f x X and so therefore I'm bereft. Yeah,

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>but you've seen them all anyway. Yeah, it would be

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>so nice to see him again like this you know. Yeah,

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're running the NonStop, like you wake up

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>at three am. It's I know, I don't think I

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>wake up at three am and realize that I'm missing

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>at Simpsons right then, Well you caught Bed goes up,

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Bed Goes down. That's because I love the Simpson exactly. So. Uh.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>We talked about inflation and deflation. But um, if you

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>want to know more about that, you should check out

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>how much money is there in the world? Are super

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.959
<v Speaker 1>stuff guided to the economy? Stag inflation? Those are all

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>some good episodes we've done on that kind of thing. Yeah. Um,

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and we mentioned earlier, you know, I talked about I

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>can see how you might be incentivized to just print

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>loads of money if you want more of it. Um,

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And we've covered and other shows why that's a bad idea.

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>But never has it been more evident than in post

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>World War One Germany they had I mean, this is

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>amazing stuff. I think Zimbabwe beat them eventually, didn't they.

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't remember. It's hungry, Well, no, I think it

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>was Zimbabwe. Um, I don't know. Maybe it was hungry,

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>remember hungry. He had a revolution in the forties that

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was just staggering numbers of hyperinflation. Yeah, but this is

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good example of hyperinflation. Well, after World War One,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Germany um owed in war reparations about thirty three billion

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars in like nineteen nineteen dollars, and they didn't have

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that kind of money, so they said, well, let's just

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>print a bunch of it. Uh, and see what happened. Um.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be backed by any kind of commodity. Um.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And it resulted in hyper inflation to the extent where

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen twenty three it was called the hyper inflation

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Weimer Republic from June ninety one to January nine.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>It's because they funded the war through borrowing. Only they

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't like raise taxes to pay for the war. They

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>literally borrowed money to pay for World War One, and

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it resulted in eventually forty two billion billion with a

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>b German marks was equal to one penny of US money.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't think that could be right, but it's right, yeah, um.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 1>And it was so bad that they there was something

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>called a mental condition called zero stroke that it caused,

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>which is when you're compelled to write endless rows of

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>zeros because when you see some of these numbers, it

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>just you're like, is that even a number when you're

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to do these calculations, and it it. There was

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>an influx of zero stroke in Germany at the time,

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and so I was wondering, like, how did Germany ever recover?

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>They basically started over again and said this isn't money anymore.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start over and we're gonna have a new

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>bank issues something called uh des now the UM rent

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>rent a mark, and this is our new money. Not

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>all that money is no good to start but this

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>is actually back. There was a bank, the Deutschen rent

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a bank mortgaged land and industrial goods to the tune

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>of about three point two billion dollars like hard assets

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that were backing this money. And it worked and it

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>turned around almost overnight to the point where a US

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>dollar was worth four point to rent a marks four

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And I guess everyone just got on board. It's all right.

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>That old money is no good. Wall paper your walls

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>with it, and now we have new money, you know. UM.

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>A lot of historians credit that really difficult period that

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Germany was put through um or put itself through, depending

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>on who you ask. After World War One is the

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>reason why fascism was allowed to take hold there, I

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>believe it, and the lead up to World War two,

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>because I mean when I say it's stabilized, its stabilized

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>the money overnight, but it still wasn't like they were

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>still in bad shape. You know, it took a while

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to dig dig out of that. Did you see that

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>thing I sent you on um Cowery shells, Oh yeah,

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit. Cali shells are sea snail shells.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>They're little, tiny white shells that look porcelain, and literally

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>for about two thousand years UM they were used as

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>currency throughout the world, and they came almost exclusively from

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the Maldives UM. And they would like, if you were

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>an Arab trader, you would go down to the Maldives,

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you would buy about a million uh Coweri shells for

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>one gold dinar. Then you go back to India or

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>go to India and you would sell ten thousand of

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>them for a gold dinar. So you could just make

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>a ton of money overnight. And then the further and

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>further away they got from the Maldives and the closer

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and closer to China they got, which is a country

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>that used these things like crazy, they were worth more

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and more. Yeah, and the Maldives, it's just like you

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>just scoop up baskets full of them, and they were

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>not nearly is valuable, but as you got away from

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 1>them Maldives, they grew more and more valuable, and they

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>were used His currency literally until the mid nineteenth century.

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean they started and we have the earliest reference

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in about three fifty b C. And in the eighteen

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>fifties is when the the currency finally collapsed, just because

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>there were so many of them on the market that

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>people would you know, they would pay using five hundred

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>thousand cowry shells and you'd have to count out five

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand cowery shells. And didn't they use them because

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>they were like pretty, and they were hardy and like

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't break really easy, and they're portable, plentiful small, so

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you can make change with them. Yeah, and people like them.

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 1>So therefore they became currency. But they lasted His currency

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>for like two thousand years. Again, all you have to

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>do is agree that's something, although that's a weird thing,

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>because that's something you can just go out and find

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>if you're in the right part of the world if

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you're in the right exactly. That's why they were less

0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>valuable in the Maldives, more valuable like in China. So, uh,

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk etymology? Yeah, you said, what was

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>the first one? He said? The buck comes from from

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>buckskin and the sawbuck. I don't know where the sawbuck

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>is a tenner, right, I believe so the word fee

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>comes from the German word for cattle U v v

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>e h. Interesting, right, yeah, speaking of shells, you know,

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe Pacific Northwest tribes used whop them whamp them,

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>which were white shells um, and the phrase shell out

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>comes from that. When you pay somebody in shells, you

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>were shelling out. I wonder if that's where clams comes from.

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Probably what's your funny word for money? Beans, bones, simoleans, samoleans.

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I tried to look up simolean because I think everyone

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>knows that's the cartoon currency, but I couldn't find anything.

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>It kept defaulting and saying, do you mean Somali money?

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like, no, I mean Samolean. I think it's um.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I even put cartoons and I couldn't find much of

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>anything except like I couldn't find an origin, like who

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>made that up. Let's say Napoleon since it rhymes maybe

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Jones. It's possible. Could ask our friend Jessica. She

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>might know you saw Charles Schultz's granddaughter email this. Huh No,

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that. Yes, and now Chuck Jones's granddaughter

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and Charles Schultz's granddaughter are both stuff you should know fans,

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 1>which is uh pretty awesome. Waiting for a returne emails

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta give me some inside story here please

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>about Grandpa? Um? Do you want to know the animology

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of Semolean? Do you have it? Yeah? Man? How did

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>my Google uh skills not paying out? I am proud

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of you, Chuck yeah for not saying yeah. Uh So.

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Semolean is spelled s I M O L e O n.

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>It's an English word, all right, That's where I cut sidetracked.

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>They think that it is a late nineteenth century blend

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of simone, which is apparently a French word for dollar. Okay,

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and Napoleon really yeah? And why was it exclusive the cartoons?

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but they think it came from New

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Orleans in the late nineteenth century. Simone um was either

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>dollar or sixpence coin. It was a British slang and Napoleon,

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's where Smolean came from. Would you

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>get that with the website words? Since dot eu? All right,

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I believe that dot eu that says at all. They

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>have a clean look to their website, which makes me

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>believe that they know what they're talking about. Yeah, when

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you look at a website, you can get a lot

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of information about its accuracy, just if it looks like

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a MySpace page from um, I hope my space is

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>around in nineteen because the penance will right in. Yeah,

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't my space. Then my Space came about, and

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the word dollar itself, um account in Czechoslovakia and a

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>town called well, it doesn't matter where it was. He

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>started minting silver coins in fifteen nineteen Yakimov and they

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>were called uh Taller Grossian, which was shortened to Taller's

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and taller eventually became dollar in the United States. And

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>we talked in the Salt episode about how the word

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>salary came from assault. So I looked again because I

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>think he said that that wasn't true, that that's a myth,

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's not necessarily true that it's a myth. From

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>what I can tell. It's just unproven. So in the

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>first century, Pliny the Elder, the Roman historian, says a

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>good beer too, that that's what the word salt came from.

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Was they used to pay soldiers in antiquity in salt.

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't back it up and they can't verify it.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>That's a good story. Yeah, at the very least is

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>about a two thousand year old story. So let's go

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>with you. It's true. Yeah. I had a history teacher

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>in college, my best history teacher ever, that said, never

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>let facts get in the way of a good story. Yeah.

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that. He was a good guy. I can't

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>remember his name. He might have had him. He was man.

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>He was great, one of my first big inspirational teachers

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in college. That is, I got you so much so

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that I don't remember his name. That one guy. Uh.

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>If you want to learn more about currency, you should

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>listen to any number of our episodes on currency, including

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>this one again. Or you can type currency into the

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 1>search part how stuff works dot com. It will bring

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>up this article. And since I said search parts, time

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>for a listener mail. I'm gonna call this rare shout out.

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't do this a lot um, but I'm gonna

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>do it today because I like the cut of this

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:50.479
<v Speaker 1>dude's jib. My name is Jared Bagnal exclamation point. I'm

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>writing to see if you could do a tribute to

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>my wife, A Bree Bagnal and you're listener mail. I'm

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of you guys, but my wife is

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>most definitely your number one fan. Can safely say that

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a few hundred of your listeners could be attributed to

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>her alone. She has dozens of people hooked on s

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Y s K and from them a dozen each. She's

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>so excited every Tuesday and Thursday that your podcast comes out.

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>She tells everyone about them. She's the nicest person in

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the world, caring, sweet, shy, and deserve some recognition for

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>being so awesome. Our one year anniversary is coming up.

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Got married in Jamaica, and though it was an amazing experience,

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 1>she's still bummed that we couldn't go with our family. UM,

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see I would like to see

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<v Speaker 1>if you could dedicate your listener portion to her into

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>our anniversary so everyone can know that she's great. But

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty nice. Thanks Josh Chuck and Jerry Um. Did

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I spell that right? No, you did not. How did

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you spell it? J E r R Y. Let's just

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>get it on the record if we haven't before, j

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<v Speaker 1>E R I. That's right. Um. For the five percent

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>of people who listen to listener mail, hey, uh, this

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>would be a great surprise for her while running into

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.879
<v Speaker 1>your podcast to hear this tribute. So Jared number two

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<v Speaker 1>fans writing on behalf of Bree number one fan at

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<v Speaker 1>the anniversary, Way to go, way to make it to

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the one year mark. I wish you many many more

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>years of happiness to come. We both do. Yes, I'm

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>speaking for Josh, although thanks man. Do you wish them?

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Of course I do. You're like, I'm glad for them. Uh.

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.640
<v Speaker 1>If you want to take your chances to see if

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Chuck will give you or your loved going to shout

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>out on the episode you know the podcast, that's what

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I meant, good luck, uh exactly. You can try tweeting

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