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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Do you Elizabeth scoutla dous? Not much? How you don't

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Speaker 2: look forward to see you are?

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Speaker 3: And here I am.

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you. You'll never guess what it is?

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Speaker 2: What size are my shoes? That's not the question. Three

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Speaker 2: good guess by The question actually is do you know

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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I do? I you know I'm a name connoisseur. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we both thought we share that like funny names. I

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Speaker 3: respect names, except for all those like tragedies as they

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Speaker 3: say that and then you know, but and apologies if

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Speaker 3: you have one of those, you didn't pick the name.

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Speaker 3: So I was the other day I was listening to

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Speaker 3: Amy Poehler's podcast, and she had Michael shore On who

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Speaker 3: created Parks and Rec and was like worked on the

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Speaker 3: Office and all, and he was talking about creating names

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Speaker 3: for characters and some of like the hilarious names that

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Speaker 3: they've had on like Parks and Rec. Elissa, Sapristine. You

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Speaker 3: have to make sure no one else has the name.

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Speaker 3: There was one. I think it was like Sue Gretzky

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Speaker 3: Mantlebon I can't.

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Speaker 2: Dash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sue, I've been I think that's.

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Speaker 2: What it was.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Live with it anyway.

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Speaker 3: So knowing this, like I thought it was really funny.

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Speaker 3: The interns forwarded me a message that we got on

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Speaker 3: Instagram from Mark mccobbin, and it's a post on Instagram

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Speaker 3: from Elite College Football with the craziest names in college

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Speaker 3: Football twenty five seasons. Because that's another thing I love

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Speaker 3: is the Key and Peel skit with like the names

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Speaker 3: they made up. These are real And I double checked

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Speaker 3: it because I thought, oh, there's no way, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're real.

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Speaker 2: This is like the first one.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it out loud. Noah is

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Speaker 3: his first name, but his last name is k n

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Speaker 3: I G g A. He is okay. Yeah. Then there's

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Speaker 3: General Booty and he kind of looks like a weird

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Speaker 3: Kendall Nitro Tuggle Wow, Nitro Tuggle King Large.

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Speaker 2: Yes, his family had fun.

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Speaker 3: And his picture is pretty up. Yeah, he's all about

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Speaker 3: that mobility. No, he's real too, mo m O h ability.

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Speaker 2: Then dude person to get out, dude person different like Wyoming.

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Speaker 3: He's from whatever the bears are. No, no, no, it's

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Speaker 3: like a purple thing going on. I don't know blazon

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Speaker 3: Loo Wong. Yes, there's sur sur Bible s I r R.

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Speaker 3: He's got another epic. Yeah what else?

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Speaker 2: Demon clowney, demon clowny, demon clown dad just went for broke.

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Speaker 2: They're like, you know what, Yeah, that's got to be's

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Speaker 2: uh brother or cousin Javeon Clowney.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah that's news to me. Sure there's a guy

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Speaker 3: who is on Notre Dame fighting Irish Charles Do d U,

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Speaker 3: but he uses the Chinese characters for his name on

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Speaker 3: his uniform. Yeah, so it just looks like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 3: And then Rocky Beers, Rocky Beers, Rocky Beers, and he

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Speaker 3: has a mustache. He's like teletransported from the seventies Deuce

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Speaker 3: Night Legend Journey. That's beautiful, Pooky Arterberry. And then we

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Speaker 3: wrap it up tell is Grant beer Man, Grant beer

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Speaker 3: but he's Grant beer Man. So Pooky Arterberry. The names

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Speaker 3: are just so good, dude persons. Yeah, so they're ridiculous,

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Speaker 3: but like in a beautiful way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, in a very like celebratory of life way.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. We have to celebrate every aspect of life.

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Speaker 2: I love your spirit, thank you so much. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what is also it's ridiculous. Elizabeth, tell me I

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Speaker 2: have a story for you. I picked this one out

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Speaker 2: extra special for you. It's kind of like thank you

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Speaker 2: for like how you hooked me up with the Arnstein episode.

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Speaker 2: It made me my man Arnold the brain Rothstain, like

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Speaker 2: I gotta do Elizabeth's solid for you today. I have

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Speaker 2: a nor Cow story. I know you enjoy those. It's

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Speaker 2: the tale of a gentleman thief, which I know you

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Speaker 2: also love that. He's a wild West outlaw that parts

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Speaker 2: for me, but he's a folk hero that parts for you.

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Speaker 2: He's also a poet, love love love this. He would

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Speaker 2: rob stage coaches and leave poetry for the law.

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Speaker 3: Stop it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was a rare wild West outlaw who was

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Speaker 2: also afraid of horses okay, which means he fled every

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Speaker 3: On a penny farthing.

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Speaker 2: He was also notoriously polite, well mannered. He never cussed, never,

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Speaker 2: he's violence, never been mistreated. A lady, I just want

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Speaker 3: You don't have to Work's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he only wanted to get his revenge against

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Speaker 3: I love this.

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Speaker 2: He was a hero of the people, Elizabeth. Elizabeth's name

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Speaker 2: was Black Bart.

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Speaker 3: Get out of town.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, buckle up, Buttercup.

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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous crame podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 4: heistand cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent ridiculous. Oh, Elizabeth, Now I know you

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Speaker 4: have a soft spot for nonviolent gentlemen or gentlewomen, also

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Speaker 4: especially thieves.

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Speaker 2: Now you've covered a few thieves who operate with style

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Speaker 2: pinas oh make their way through the world, sailing on

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Speaker 2: that wind of criminality. Now who is this Black Bart?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't sound like me. He would up front be

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Speaker 2: one of your people. Know. He was, as I said,

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Speaker 2: an outlaw folk hero poet okay, operating in norcl in

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Speaker 2: the eighteen seventies and eighteen eighties.

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Speaker 3: He's like an early like Peter Coyote.

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Speaker 2: The high Time of the Old West, right for starters.

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Speaker 2: He's deaf my kind of guy, because, for instance, Black

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Speaker 2: Bart was a self applied nickname, like how I dubbed

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Speaker 2: myself Dizzy. He never told you that anyway, My man

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Speaker 2: black Bart didn't trust the nineteenth century press to give

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Speaker 2: him a good nickname. So he's like calling me black bar.

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Speaker 3: I believe it because we know how the papers were right,

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Speaker 3: they did you dirty shirt.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Now he was born.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, Pickle knows Johnson, Like wait, what.

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Speaker 2: No blue tooth Gregory he was This dude was born

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Speaker 2: in Norfolk, England, eighteen twenty nine. Okay, right, But his

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Speaker 2: parents named him Charles Bowles, third to ten children. He

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Speaker 2: was not going to inherit the family spread. That was clear.

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Speaker 2: So he had to make his way in the world.

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Speaker 2: And true to this show, he chose crime. But not

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Speaker 2: at first, Elizabeth. At first he tried to go legit,

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Speaker 2: like when he was a toddler. His family picked up

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Speaker 2: sticks and jolly old and they left England and moved

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Speaker 2: to New York. Not New York City. The immigrant family

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Speaker 2: settled in Jefferson County. I had to look this up.

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Speaker 2: It's near a spot called Alexandria Bay, which is right

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Speaker 2: there at the Canadian border. Okay, right, So the settlement

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Speaker 2: the area was settled in like eighteen seventeen. The Bolls

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Speaker 2: So anyway, if everything's going along nice, they make their

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Speaker 2: The news washes across the continent that gold has been

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Speaker 2: discovered this place called Sutter's Fort in California. News kicks

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Speaker 2: off Gold Rush of eighteen forty nine. As you well know,

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Speaker 2: just twenty years old at the time, young Charlie Bowles

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Speaker 2: and two of his brothers head west to go and

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Speaker 2: find their fortune in the gold Hills of California. Exciting

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Speaker 2: now they were about it, Elizabeth. They didn't even hesitate.

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Speaker 2: They just saw the headlines and started walking west. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's how I pictured it. I don't know anyway, they

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Speaker 2: arrived in eighteen forty nine. They made they were forty nine,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like they saw the first headliner

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Speaker 2: The wagons, yeah, I assume what are.

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Speaker 3: These blue jeans we've heard about?

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Speaker 2: Who's this Levi Strauss fellow? I heard he makes a

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Speaker 2: good product. Now, crossing country in eighteen forty nine was

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Speaker 2: no joke. There was no trans continental railroad at this time.

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Speaker 2: But they make it out to California. I assume you're right.

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Speaker 2: They took a wagon. I don't know. They ran up

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Speaker 2: above some Sacramento. Apparently they found jack squat because after

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Speaker 2: three years mucking about in the cold water streams, digging

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Speaker 2: away with little to show for their efforts. Of the

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Speaker 2: three Bulls brothers head back to New York. Oh really, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's eighteen fifty two. Okay, the Bulls Brothers still had

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Speaker 2: The gold rush is still kicking on at this point, right, So.

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Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is is everything was so expensive.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, in California. It's like how now where if

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Speaker 3: Well that's how it was then, and the gold rushes.

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Speaker 3: Everything was outsized price wise.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's paying for gold dust. They're like, yeah, they're paying

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Speaker 3: So if you're going and you're not successful, and then

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Speaker 3: you're not turning around and selling shovels. Totally good point,

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Speaker 3: you know, or doing people's laundries, or making crime my people,

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Speaker 3: making saddles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good answer. Everybody needs a place to sit.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So, like I said, crossing continent before the Transcontinental Railroad

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Speaker 2: the wild attack. But there's yeah, there's disease illness. When

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Speaker 2: the three Bulls brothers returned to Gold Country, both of

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Speaker 2: Charlie Bulls's brothers are severely sick from the trip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shortly thereafter both die. Oh no, now.

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Speaker 3: He's alone dysentery just like an Oregon pretty much exactly.

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Speaker 2: So, now he's alone in the world, young, grieving, still

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Speaker 2: got gold fever. So he tries to make it a

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Speaker 2: He stuck it up for another two years. Luck still pitiful, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: So he packs it back up, heads back to east

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Speaker 3: Get salty because it's like a five hour flight, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. They're just like.

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Speaker 2: Weeks and weeks off, not months.

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Speaker 3: That takes a lot. You got a lot of metal.

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Speaker 2: So it was good that he returned home to New York, though,

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Speaker 2: because that's where he met a young woman and they

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Speaker 2: fell in love. Elizabeth. Her name was Mary Elizabeth Johnson,

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Speaker 2: just like the most nineteenth century Nativist American name you

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Speaker 2: could come up with, Mary Elizabeth Johnson.

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Speaker 3: She would not do well in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: He would not the pair Mary, right, and they had

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Speaker 2: to make a go of it. After a few years,

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Speaker 2: he convinceds her, we need to move west. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: she's like, I don't know about it. He's like, no,

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Speaker 2: not all the way to got to California. You don't

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Speaker 2: worry about that. I've shaken the gold fever. Let's move

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Speaker 2: to Decatur, Illinois. So they moved to Decatur, Illinois. They

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Speaker 2: the American Civil War. The war breaks out, Charlie Bowles

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Speaker 2: So his luck holds up. He's no good at gold mining,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the war changed. Okay, I do

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Speaker 2: So in eighteen sixty seventy he's like, I'm going west,

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Speaker 2: so they're finding smaller.

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Speaker 3: Pockets here on the silver, a bunch of silver as well.

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Speaker 2: the road agents from the Wells Fargo company did him dirty, right,

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Speaker 2: So in the letter he promises his wife that he

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Speaker 2: do that, though Charlie bowls. He picks up state again

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Speaker 2: He's like, where are them? Wells Fargo is located, So

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Speaker 2: Wells Fargo and Company. And that's who Charlie Bowles makes

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Speaker 3: You're kidding them.

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Speaker 2: Just fixates on stage coaches if it's red and says

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Speaker 2: When it comes to being an outlaw ful hero, Charlie

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Speaker 2: Bowles is as lucky as he was in war. He

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Speaker 2: finds he's good at being a bandit. Yeah, he holds

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Speaker 2: the record for rob stage coaches as my man black Bart.

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Speaker 2: He pulled off twenty more stage coach robberies than any

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Speaker 3: And I've not heard of this.

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Speaker 2: I know I had not heard about him either, ntil

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Speaker 2: I read about them to do this story for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he holds the record at twenty nine successful stage coach

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Speaker 2: ride years black Bart frustrated the hell out of law

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Speaker 2: He just reeks his earthly revenge against the bankers. So

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Speaker 2: we're back, Elizabeth. Oh you ready to get to know

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Speaker 2: my man Black Bart. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Every time you say his name, I think of a

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Speaker 3: Christmas story. Oh right, he wants the red writer bb

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Speaker 3: gun And it's all because I'll get you black Bart.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. The name his name sticks around. He

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Speaker 2: not that guy, like yeah tough. Anyway, First of all,

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Speaker 2: you know Black Bart is not a black cowboy, Am

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Speaker 3: I correct that it's black Bard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he's in tunes too, Yeah exactly. It's a

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Speaker 2: And it also has that dime store novel quality.

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Speaker 2: So fine, He's not this notorious bad Man's my point right.

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Speaker 2: Black Bard doesn't have a surly demeanor, doesn't have noxious vibes.

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Speaker 2: He's not a big gruff villain, but he gives himself

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Speaker 2: based on his literary leanings. Yeah, he is. He's a

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: He was known like for instance, he was known to

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Speaker 2: of Shakespeare, would quote him. He black Bart, he has

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Speaker 2: as I said, didn't didn't smoke, didn't drink. He also

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Speaker 2: didn't smoke opium or hashish. As the newspapers would point out,

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Speaker 2: they he doesn't smoke opium. It's like, I guess it

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Speaker 2: was common enough you had to point this out. So

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Speaker 2: he also he didn't swear. And if if it weren't

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Speaker 2: for the you know, all the stage coach robberies. Really

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Speaker 2: an exemplary life for a golden sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But as I told you up top, as Billy Bob

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Speaker 2: Thorton put it in Tombstone, black Bart was pretty brave

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Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't carry shooting irons either, Yeah, neither out

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Speaker 2: but he did. Black Bart did carry a double barrel

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Speaker 2: when he was working as an outlaw stage coach Bandit okay,

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Speaker 2: interviews he said it wasn't as an emergency precaution. He

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Speaker 3: Exactly see how this plays, because when you when you

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Speaker 3: Like, oh gun, gun stop persisting.

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Speaker 2: In his record twenty nine, stage coach rob as I said,

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Speaker 2: not once does he ever fire his double barrel sot

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Speaker 2: I've got what they've got now. When he would rob

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Speaker 2: Just trying to picture that.

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Speaker 2: Back in the exactly just put into like valley oaks.

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Speaker 2: you know, like they're they're made interestingly for riding horses

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Speaker 2: also liked a bowler. He was a bowler man, a

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Speaker 2: when he was not working, when he's not doing his

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Speaker 2: have a bowler. Sometimes he would have like a gold

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Speaker 2: tip cane, stylish rakish gentleman. Right, But when he was

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Speaker 2: he's like basically something Stooby Dudes, yeah, villain or the Zodiac.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, it was quite the look. It was shocking

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Speaker 2: for people then as it would be now now. But Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you need to know a little bit

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Speaker 2: yeah comfortably. No, the driver would sit up front and

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Speaker 2: dust so when the weather anything, but the seats are cheap,

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00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: I guess, and they'd be up there with the leather

434
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 2: mail bags, right, so.

435
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 3: Beneath the woods and the pine branches by a low branch.

436
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: So also, I forgot to tell you there's the beneath

437
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 2: the mule skinner seats. That's the wagon driver's name, right. Yeah,

438
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: there's something called the lock box, so the aka the

439
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: treasure box. This is where Wells Fargo would put their

440
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: gold coin, the bullion, the gold dust collected from the hills,

441
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 2: and all their precious metals, right, but also stocks, bawds,

442
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: treasury bills, you name it, they're all there in the

443
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: lock box. This whole rig gets pulled by a team

444
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: of usually four to six horses, and to keep these

445
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 2: animals from tiring out and pulling over all this weight

446
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: over hill and dale and mountain path and valley floor,

447
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: the horses would travel about ten miles and then they

448
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: would be changed out. This ride is stopping every ten miles, yeah,

449
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: and then changing out all the horses, which takes time,

450
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 2: and they're feeding them and everything. And that's why it's

451
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: called a stage coach. He goes in stages.

452
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

453
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. So when the horses get uncoupled

454
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: from the stage coach and the new team horses get

455
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 2: strapped in every ten miles or so. This makes them

456
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: vulnerable to banditry. But that's also where they are at,

457
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: like some way station. There's people there. It's not an

458
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: easy target. Only the craziest bandits would hit people there. Yeah,

459
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: this is what you see in a lot of Westerns.

460
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, this band's drained, she's hitting the

461
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: way station. Yeah, most reasonable bandits would just wait for

462
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 2: them to get two miles down the road between exactly

463
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: and then just hit them. And so then they have

464
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: to do that though, you got to stop the wagon.

465
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: And these guys are cooking along, right, So how do

466
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 2: you do that? Well? With this old Civil War veteran,

467
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: with his combats experience under General Sherman, he's done a

468
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: bunch of raids and he's dealt with wagons. He figured

469
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: out I can do in my one man war against

470
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: Wells Fargo. I know I can do this. So he

471
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: makes himself a name people can fear Black Bart and

472
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: then he just is willing to step out in front

473
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: of the wagon with this crazy look, the flower sack

474
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: over his head and the double barreled sawed off shotgun

475
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: aimed at the driver and they yeah, drivers like this

476
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: this guy means business, and so they yell woe and

477
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 2: pull over. So you may be wondering where did he

478
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: come up with the name black Bart just struck a.

479
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: Genius, very Blackberrier, rapid transit, that's a very differ. That's

480
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: a strange name. Where did he get it?

481
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: His gnome to crime comes from his love of poetry

482
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: and literary pursuits.

483
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 5: Right.

484
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: There was this story that ran in the old Sacramento

485
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 2: Union newspaper a couple of years prior. It's called the

486
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: Case of Summerfield by this written by Caxton, which is

487
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: meant to be like a Roman like, oh, this is

488
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: my writing eponym, right or pseudonym.

489
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

490
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: The author's real name was William Henry Rhodes. He was

491
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: a lawyer and he wrote a lot of stories. Right.

492
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: So this was a fictional early sci fi tale about

493
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: this chemical like a recipe that this guy has in

494
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: these secret vials that will turn water into something that

495
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: will burn, that'll catch fire. So that this is a

496
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 2: secret It's happening in the Old West. The people are

497
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: fighting over these vials. So imagine like the show The

498
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: Wild West where they have like some crazy inventor and

499
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: they have to get chased down by Jim West. Yeah. Right,

500
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: that's basically what it is.

501
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 6: Right.

502
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: But in that story, you got a bad man named

503
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: black Bart, and he robs Wells, Fargo stage coaches as

504
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: part of a campaign of fear and terror against the

505
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: bankers and so, and he's the one who covets this

506
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: secret that can destroy the world. Right. So black Bart

507
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: is described as having.

508
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 6: Like wild gray eyes, a bushy black beard, straggly wind

509
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 6: kept hair, and this becomes the inspiration for this full

510
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 6: hero outlaw character he plans to build.

511
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: In reality, Charles Bowls is like five foot eight. He's

512
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: well built, well proportioned, right, all the newspapers of the

513
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: day point out. But he's not this big, terrifying fit.

514
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: But his name sounds like it. So the Los Angeles

515
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: Evening Express they describe the band at black Bart back

516
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: in eighteen eighty eight as quote Charles E. Bowles, better

517
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: known Black Bar, a name which he himself assumed, is

518
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: the most romantic figure in the history of American crime.

519
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: The lone highwayman who spares life and takes only from

520
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: the rich is the one criminal tolerated by fiction. Yet

521
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 2: fiction has never portrayed a character where craftiness, cunning, and

522
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: intelligence are so strongly blended with purposeless criminality, gentleness and

523
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 2: courtesy with desperate courage, as in the nature of one

524
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: Black Bart. Right, So at this point he's forty six

525
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: years old. When he's doing all this, it is in

526
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: his forties. He gets caught, he's forty eight, but when

527
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 2: they're writing about him, he's at the forty six. So

528
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 2: he decides to become Black Bart. He's a forty year

529
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: old former veteran of the Civil War who's like walked

530
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: away from his family and former gold miner, and he's

531
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: just like, I'm gonna become this literary figure.

532
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: He has seen some of the worst things carnage garage

533
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: for years.

534
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: So in the summer of eighteen seventy five July to

535
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: be exact, for his first stage coache Blackbart opts to

536
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: hit a Wells Fargo stage coach running between Sonora and

537
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: Twallamee County and Milton and Calveras County. Yeah, so up

538
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: there in the true Gold Country, like Mark Twain the Jumping.

539
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: So he's going from Sonora up to they're going.

540
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: From Sonora up to Milton in Calaveras County.

541
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, So they're just running the length of the foothill.

542
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Okay, So Caliverra's county, As I said, Jumping

543
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: frog contest Mark Twain, this is real gold Hill country now,

544
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: just outside of a town called Copperopolis, Oh, Calaveras County. Right,

545
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 2: our newly minted outlaws sets his trap. Now after the fact,

546
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: the stagecoach driver said that the outlaw stepped out of

547
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: the woods in front of the stage coach. He wore

548
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: the flower sack over his head with the customary two

549
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: eye holes cut out. He levels his double barrel shotgun

550
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: at the driver and says, throw down your box. Now

551
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: this means the strong box, the treasure box. Stage coach

552
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: driver considers his options. Right, so the outlaw clocks his hesitation.

553
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: So black Bart gives orders to his fellow bad men

554
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: secreted away in the woods. He goes.

555
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 6: He dares to shoot the solid folly boys.

556
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: The stage coach driver looks up, gazes into the woods. Right,

557
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: he spies rifles amongst the trees, all pointing back at him. Now,

558
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm scared for his life. There's too many of them.

559
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 2: Stage coach driver throws down the lock box. He watches

560
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: as this outlaw pries it open with like an axe,

561
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: a small, little like hatchet. Yeah, he collects one hundred

562
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: and sixty dollars inside would would be about fifty five

563
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: hundred dollars today.

564
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

565
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: The outlaw stands back off and he moses into the

566
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: woods right, just backs up, protected by other rifles aimed

567
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: at the stage coach. Now, once he's satisfied that the

568
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: highwayman is good and gone, stage coach driver hops down

569
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: to retrieve the lock box. He's got to go and

570
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: show his bosses that look, yeah, not me. Yeah, And

571
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: then that's when he sees what he believed were rifles

572
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: aimed at him were nothing more than carefully positioned sticks

573
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: just wedged into the tree branches. There were no other bandits.

574
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: It was just some theater in service of crime.

575
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: So who would imagine it's just one dude and no

576
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: horses exactly.

577
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: You're thinking, he's gotta have a great gang, big.

578
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: Group of guys, and then a bunch of horses just

579
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: on the other this patch of.

580
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, So that's his first robbery.

581
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: This is first one boom.

582
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm good at this, But by the end

583
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: of the year he's back at it. This time he's

584
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: near Marysville up in Yuba County. Yeah, north of my hometown.

585
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: You're Alma Mater, Davises December of eighteen seventy five. Again

586
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: black Bart uses the same gag. He props up sticks

587
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: in the wood, steps out in front of the stage coach,

588
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: acts like he got a team of bandits guns trained

589
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: on the driver. Again, his theater in the wild totally successful.

590
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: Guess he got a good haul because he takes a

591
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: year off from banditry after this point. Oh yeah, he's

592
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: down in San Francisco and enjoying the sporting life as

593
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: a professional gambler. Okay, so eventually as luck ran out,

594
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: so he hops on a ferry, goes and crosses the Bay.

595
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: He didn't go back up the Gold Country, though, he

596
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: decided I'm gonna score some more loot. He stays closer

597
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: to the Bay area. He goes up and rubs a

598
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: stage coach of Mendocino County. Oh up the coast, Yeah exactly.

599
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: So he decides his third robbery is that goes down

600
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: August third, eighteen seventy seven. As the stage coach thunders

601
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: down the road, suddenly out of the woods steps this

602
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: hooded figure it's Black Bart with the same flower sack

603
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: over his head, two eye holes cut out, holds up

604
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: his sawed off shotgun. Stagecoast driver seas and yells, whoa horses,

605
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: come to a stop right now. The outlaw orders the

606
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: driver throw down the box, which the duly complies. Again.

607
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Black Part pretends he's got a gang outlaws in the trees, right,

608
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 2: and it works just as well the third time. But

609
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: I guess word had not spread amongst the drivers. There's

610
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: this guy out there pretending that there's these sticks in

611
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: the woods. There is gang.

612
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: So he spends hours finding like really straight sticks. Yeah,

613
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: so that's like yeah, and then pulling all the bark off.

614
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: So smooth.

615
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: So Black Part he seems to know something which is key,

616
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: which is that people are more afraid of their imaginations

617
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: than reality. Yes, they just work on their imagination. You

618
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: don't need to actually do anything scary, just make them

619
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: start thinking scary.

620
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that he saw that in warfare exactly exactly.

621
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: You know what that people you can either psych yourself

622
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: out imagining what could happen, and then you become more

623
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: of a victim walking into a situation.

624
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: Are you psych yourself up I'm gonna I'm gonna live

625
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: through this, and then we're gonna use these, like, you know,

626
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: waving sticks to indicate that we have a lot more

627
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: soldiers on this side of the.

628
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be I'm not gonna be freaked

629
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: out until i know for sure what's going on.

630
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: Yes, good point, you know. So at this point a

631
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: third robbery, he pries up the locks box, steals the contents.

632
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Black Bart tells a driver drive on right, and drivers

633
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: happily to do this. Okay, yeah, he takes off right.

634
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: Then he goes. When he gets to the next way station,

635
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: he reports to the authorities that he was robbed and like,

636
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: look at the lock box and they so they ride

637
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: out to the scene of the crime and all they

638
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: find there is just evidence of the robbery. They're like, oh,

639
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: this is where it happens. They find, you know, like

640
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: different like with the hatchet he used to break up

641
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: in the lock box. But they also find a stanza

642
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: of poetry and it reads and I quote, I've labored

643
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: long and hard for bread, for honor, and for riches,

644
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: but on my corns too long. You've tread you fine

645
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: haired sons of bitches.

646
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 6: Signed Black Bart Oh yeah.

647
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: That poem with not bald up and left on the

648
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: forest floor. No, the law men were amused. The poem

649
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: gets shared with newspaper men. They put it in their papers.

650
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Soon enough, thanks to the telegraph and the early wire service,

651
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: this newspaper readers from coast to coast are reading about

652
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: black Bart, the outlaw poet who's robbing stage coaches in California.

653
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: It's great, that's clickbait, Sarah.

654
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Exactly, and he's an instant sensation of the nineteenth century.

655
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: For his fifth robbery the next year, in eighteen seventy eight,

656
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: black Bart hits a stage coach between Quincy up in

657
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Plumus County, and it was on the rundown to Oraville

658
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: in Butte County. It was the summer again, July, to

659
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: be exacts. Apparently black Bart was in the mood for

660
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: a little more poetry. After he successfully robbed that stage coach,

661
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: emptied his lock box, went on his merry way. Black

662
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Bart left behind another outlaw poem. His second poem went,

663
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: and I quote here I lay me down to sleep

664
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: and wait to.

665
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 6: Come inmorrow, perhaps success, perhaps defeat, and everlast in sorrow.

666
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 6: But let come what will I'll try it on. My

667
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 6: condition can't be worse. If there's money in that box,

668
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 6: tis money in my purse, signed black Bart.

669
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: So that little verse sealed the deal for black Bart.

670
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: The people from coast to coast now love him and

671
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: his full hero law antics right. But the authorities and

672
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: the lawmen hate how silly he's making them look. But

673
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: however try as they might, the law cannot catch this

674
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: new outlaws sensation. Black Bark just keeps right on robbing

675
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: stage coaches, just willy nilly. Right, it seems that he's

676
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: well aware of the local economic cycles of the area,

677
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: right he takes advantage of them. For instance, he knows

678
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: it in Mendocino County there's sheep sharing season, yes, which

679
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: means that the shepherds and the wool gatherers are going

680
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: to need to get paid, which means the stage coaches

681
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: are going to be running big loads of cash to

682
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: settle up the end of sheep sharing season, which meant

683
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: it is going to be a big payday for black Bart.

684
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: October eighteen seventy eight, In sheep sharing season, black Bart

685
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: robbed too wells Fargo stage coaches on back to back days.

686
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: Oh see, they don't expect that they think it'll be

687
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: a while.

688
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: And he's and he's, you'll love this. He's super casual

689
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: about it. On the first day, October second, eighteen seventy eight,

690
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Black Bart gets spotted having a picnic by himself near

691
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: yu Kaya, right, just having a picnic now, yes, he

692
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: was enjoying the spoils of his crime. That stage coach

693
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: draws near and black Bart pops up out of his

694
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: ambush spot, levels his sawd off shotgun. Right, driver pulls

695
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: the horses to a stop. Black Bart tosses the apple

696
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: that he was still munching on. No, he gets down

697
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: to his outlaw business. Right. These are all from the

698
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: d eye witness descriptions. And the next day, October third,

699
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: eighteen seventy eight, back at it, he hits another stage coach,

700
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: this time again, as it always, he flees on foot.

701
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: What does he do? He just walks over to a

702
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: farmhouse a couple of miles away, and he pays the

703
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: family for dinner, and then he sits down and haves

704
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: dinner with them while everyone's out looking for him, because

705
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: no one would go to a family farmhouse, so he

706
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: buys himself some time. But the young daughter there, she's

707
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: the first person to take an interest in him, and

708
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: she sees him without his flower sack mask on, sure,

709
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: and no one else has seen no exactly. So he

710
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: also he didn't rob the family either, right, but they

711
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: figured out who he was, so this daughter won. Donald

712
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: McCreery said. Black Bart had quote graying brown hair, missing

713
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 2: two of his front teeth, deep set, piercing blue eyes,

714
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: under heavy eyebrows, slender hands, and intellectual and conversation well

715
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: flavored with polite jokes. Okay, so by this point Blackbart

716
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: is becoming so famous, so well known, wells Fargo has

717
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: to hire professional trackers to hunt down this outlaw. They

718
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: go like full on sundance, and butch casting is sundanced, kid, right,

719
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, let's hire the best people. Yeah, these guys,

720
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: these professional trackers, they follow the trail of black Bart

721
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: to the McCreary farm, and then that's how they get

722
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: the news for the daughter. But it's too late when

723
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: they arrive there. The man hunters they continue to follow

724
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Blackbart's trail for sixty miles. The trackers are on horseback,

725
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: Blackbart's on foot. Somewhere around the Eel River, the trail

726
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: goes cold. His trick is During the night, black Bar

727
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: keeps hiking through the rough country. By morning, he's twenty

728
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 2: miles east of his pursuers, so they're taking their camping down.

729
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: He's gone. He's got yeah, so free from his professional trackers.

730
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: The next day, black Bart strikes again. He hits a

731
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: junction of two wagon roads in Lake County. According to

732
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: reports of the day, black Bart was wiling away his

733
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: time waiting for the stagecoach, but quote by eating peaches,

734
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: the pits of which were found at the tree from

735
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: which he stepped behind. So that's his move. Just eat

736
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: some fruit, wait for some money to come down the road.

737
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

738
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: Unbeknownst to black Bart, a second professional tracker hired by

739
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: Wells Fargo, is still on his trail. He rides up

740
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: on horseback, but he's a day late. He arrives at

741
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: the scene of the crime, only there's no poem waiting

742
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: for him this time, just the peach pits. Meanwhile, black

743
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: Bart is hiked into the valley Oaks, and forty eight

744
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: hours later he's seventy miles away in Calusa County. Whoa

745
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: on foot? On foot? Yeah. From that point. Over the

746
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: next few years, black Bart continues to wreak havoc of

747
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: this one man campaign of vengeance against Wells Fargo. They

748
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: cannot catch him. He just continues robbing stagecouches one after another,

749
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: just like potato chips. Basically can't stuch. Obviously, as low

750
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: his luck can't last car incredible his core strength. Eventually,

751
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: even as successful as he was, black Bart was bound

752
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: to get caught.

753
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: When we get back from these warm, delicious, fresh out

755
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: of the oven commercials, Elizabeth, I'll tell you how my

756
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: man black Bart gets popped. Yes, Elizabeth Saron, we're back. Hi.

757
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: You ready to hear more from my man black Bart. Yes,

758
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: the full Carol outlaw poet. Yes, thanks to his poetry

759
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: and his success is a bandit. Black Bart's famous at

760
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: this point, secured all right, everyone's talking about him coast

761
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: to coast.

762
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: Did anyone set his poems to music? Not that I

763
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 3: found and in the saloons and stuff.

764
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: Hold that thought about singing his poetry. Okay, So his

765
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: success guarantees that, As I said, he's staying in the headlines.

766
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: People are loving this, and I'm talking for years. For years,

767
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: there are reports of this guy just going around on

768
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: the Old West robbing stage coaches. Freaking havoc on Wells Fart.

769
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: He's driving Wells Fargo nuts. Yeah, and they have the

770
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: money to see this as a war, and so they're like,

771
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: we're going to win this war. So let's go over

772
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: a few of his stage coach robbery highlights before I

773
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: tell you how it all goes pop, because they'll kind

774
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: of set up how he also gets caught.

775
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

776
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: On October eight, eighteen eighty one, Black Bart is in

777
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: Shasta County up north. Yeah, and he's waiting to ambush

778
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 2: the stage coach between where Way Rika and Redding, Okay.

779
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: And when he pops up out from his ambushed spot,

780
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: the stage coach driver pulls hard on the brakes yells

781
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: WHOA to the team of horses, right they pull over.

782
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: This driver is named Horace Williams. He's apparently not terribly

783
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: afraid of Black Bart, because Horace Williams tides to strike

784
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: up a conversation. He throws after he throws down the

785
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 2: strong box and Black Bart prize it open with his hatchet.

786
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: He's scouring through the contents. The curious driver Horace Williams

787
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: wonders how much Black Bart is peeling off his bosses.

788
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: The fact cats in Wells Fargo. Yeah, Hey, how much

789
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: did you make black Bart genial? Good hearted? Is he is?

790
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: He's like, not very much for the chances I take.

791
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: Oh so it's like exactly anyway. At this point, it's

792
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty one. So now, how many trackers and professional

793
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: manhunters do Wells Fargo have there on the roads and

794
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: in the wildman is tracking down Black Bart? Great question.

795
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: I am so good at asking these questions.

796
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: The answer is they had teams, teams Elizabeth teams are

797
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: professional manhunters. But these guys cannot catch Black Part for years. Yeah,

798
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: it's embarrassing, and mostly Blackbart is embarrassing because he doesn't

799
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: ride a horse, and they don't figure this out. These

800
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: professional manhunters are so used to tracking a man on

801
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: horseback or by wagon wheel they cannot get it through

802
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: their heads that he's just walking away.

803
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

804
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: So October eleven, eighteen eighty one, he strikes again. Professional

805
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: manhunters rush to the scene because they had everything they

806
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: hear about it. They get a telegraph announcement and then yeah,

807
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: they go rushing there. Yeah, they track the trail that

808
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: they find and they find once again Jack Squat. This

809
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: is just once driving them those are some of the

810
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: most famous detectives in the country, being sent over from

811
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: across the country. And December of this same year, Blackbart

812
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: strikes it in in Marysville.

813
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: You know, Marysville today is like overrun with wild chickens.

814
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, totally anyway, exactly, he gets away on foot. Right,

815
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: there's now a whole posse because the Marysville sheriff don't play,

816
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: so he gets a whole posse chasing after him, and

817
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: the fat cat bankers have their like manhunters, and they're

818
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: all out there, this outlaw of folkiro poets embarrassing them

819
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: all in the national newspapers. And at this point, right,

820
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: as I said, gleeful copy, the newspapers are here since

821
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: the tennesseean right, and the newspaper in Tennessee is they

822
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: have a story of black Bart's outlaw exploits and narrow escapes,

823
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: and they chronicle him like he's the Robin Hood of

824
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: the wild West, right, and I quote now, all his

825
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: operations were in wild country where escape was easy and

826
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: no trail could be followed. The counties of Sonoma, Mendocino, Trinity,

827
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: siski U, Shasta, Plumus, Butte Yuba, Calaveras, and Placer Nearly

828
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: all old mining country were the scenes of his exploits.

829
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: The best of detectives and sheriffs were trying for years

830
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: to secure some clue, but the simplicity of a system

831
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: baffled them.

832
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: Wow.

833
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: So Yeah. In January of eighteen eighty two, black Bart

834
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: returns to Mendosino County. He plans to catch the stage

835
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: running between Cloverdale and Yukaya up the north. Yeah, and

836
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: he meets up with the stage coach near a town

837
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: called Hopland.

838
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: I know he used to have a really good like

839
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: music fest.

840
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

841
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 6: So.

842
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: The stagecoach driver is named Harry Force. Okay, I gotta say,

843
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: I'm wondering why this man did not change his name.

844
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: You're a stagecoach driver named Harry Horse. I'm sorry, Harry Force.

845
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: Harry for anyway, of course, he's one big Harry Force. Way, Harry.

846
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: I love that. It's they're acknowledging. It's the simplicity of

847
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: it that's the you know, wanting. It's not like they're

848
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: looking back on that. They're saying, he's doing this so

849
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: simply in these.

850
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: They can't figure it out.

851
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: Ding dongs can't.

852
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like they have all these way to reports

853
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: of him just walking away into the woods. You just

854
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: keep thinking he's gonna somebody picks him up and they

855
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: ride away.

856
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: Must have somewhere in their right mind walking the fork

857
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: is superior.

858
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: It's fit, It's true. So at this point, Harry Force

859
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: is holding the reins and he has no one riding shotgun.

860
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: He's by himself. Coach is empty too. The man who

861
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: intends him to rob him doesn't know that it's empty.

862
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: So black Bart steps out from behind a valley of

863
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: the wagon driver. Harry Force sees him, and he sees

864
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: the white flower sack on his head, the two eye

865
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: holes cut out, wearing the long duster coat, and then

866
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: he's like whoa, especially when he sees that double barrel shotgun.

867
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: So black Bart introduces himself. On black Bart down the box.

868
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: So black Bart holds the team of horses for with

869
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: his shotgun trained on Harry.

870
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: Horse, I will hold your horse, and so he's.

871
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: Harry Force throws down the strong box right, and then

872
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: black Bart tells Harry Force go on get it, and

873
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: he's once again only too happy to oblige. And after

874
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: he's written a little distance, he comes to a toll house.

875
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: Because this road has a toll house, you have to

876
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: pay every few miles to be on this road. I

877
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: don't know how you can just like ride off the

878
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: road and go around the toll house. So I guess

879
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: with a wagon that's difficult.

880
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: I mean, when you think of the terrain, I'm sure

881
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: like they've carved these, you know. I'm sure that it's like.

882
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: Modified like through boulder passage.

883
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: Animal passages that were then used by indigenous folks who

884
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 3: then mean, it's like they drive cattle and stuff through these.

885
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: The reason why this is the only road people are

886
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: using exactly. So at this point, once he gets to

887
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: the toll house, they tell the authorities. Telegraph from now

888
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: wires light up, word spreads. Wells Fargo detectives they hear

889
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: the report, they go off in hot pursuit. They meet

890
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: up with the Sheriff's posse at the crime scene one

891
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: hour after.

892
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: It occurs, an hour next week.

893
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: No, that's how quick, they respond, Yeah, strong box is

894
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: still there on the ground, slit mail bags are there,

895
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: but no black bart. This trail leads off between the

896
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: oak trees. The posse and the Wells Fargo detectives. They

897
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: chase after black Bart on their thundering horses. They follow

898
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: the trail all the way to Kelseyfield, New York near

899
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: clear Lake. Yes, and that's where the trail goes cold

900
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: once again. Black Bart slips away from the Wells Fargo Manhunters.

901
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: In June of eighteen eighty two, he robs another stage

902
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: coach near Willetts, California. So about five miles south of Yukayah.

903
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: A hooded figure steps out of the wagon road stage

904
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: coach driver whoa hits the brakes pulls the wagon to

905
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 2: a stop. Driver is named Tom Force. That's right, brother

906
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: of Harry Force. What yes, drivers. So Blackbart's final stage

907
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: coach robbery comes one year later, November eighteen eighty three.

908
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: If you can believe it, he robs the stage coach

909
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: in the exact same spot where he robbed his first

910
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: stage coach. He begins and ends at the same spot

911
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: just outside of Copperopolis, Caerapolis and a place called funk Hill.

912
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: Funk Hill, that's it gets popped in funk Hill. So

913
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: there's this boulder there balanced high above the wagon road.

914
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: It's a perfect ambush spot. And that's why black Bart

915
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: returns to the spot so faithful day is November three.

916
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: He's waiting at the boulder at the bend in the

917
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: wagon road, eager for his next ambush robbery. He pulls

918
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: on his white flower sack with his two cutout eye holes.

919
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: But rather than me tell you about this, Elizabeth, I'd

920
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: like you to close your eyes. I'd like you to picture.

921
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: It's Saturday, November third, eighteen eighty three, and you, Elizabeth,

922
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: are riding along the wagon road from Sonora to Milton,

923
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: near the town of Copperopolis. The mule scanner has kept

924
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: good time when he stops the wagon, he's been efficient

925
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: and even consider of you, the soul passenger. You've just

926
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: used the Reynolds ferry to cross a river that was wild,

927
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: and you did meet the son of the ferryman, a

928
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: nineteen year old named Jim Rollary. But now the wagon

929
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: rolls through a grove of sun dappled oak trees that

930
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 2: line the wagon road. You gaze out at the oak

931
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: trees and the California hills, still gold from summer, not

932
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: yet greened over again by the winter rains. That's when

933
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: you hear the wagon driver yell, WHOA, that saame as odd.

934
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: It's too early for a stop to change horses. There

935
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: must be something in the road. You stick your head

936
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: out of the window to see what's in the road,

937
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: and there you spy a hooded figure. Is he wearing

938
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: a flower sack on his head? You think to yourself.

939
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: The sawed off shotgun tells you why he's there. The

940
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: outlaw steps forward toward the now stopped wagon. You fear

941
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: what awaits you. You've heard about how these raids and

942
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: burglaries and robberies go down in the wild West. But

943
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: he doesn't come up to your stage coach door and

944
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: yank it open. Instead, the man with the flower sack

945
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: over his head politely says, ma'am.

946
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 6: If you'd be so kind as to wait inside the coach,

947
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: I won't be more than a minute. I intend to

948
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 6: hear rob this stage coach, but take nothing from you.

949
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: You are struck by his candor. You nod mutely, Still

950
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: somewhat scared, you watch as he orders the driver to

951
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: throw down the box. He does it lands with the

952
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: sort of sound that promises gold coins are inside. The

953
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: bad man outlaw uses a small axe to break open

954
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: the locked box. He finds a fabulous wealth of gold

955
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: waiting inside. Your eyes light up at the sight. He

956
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: scoops up the gold, shoves it into a sack. He

957
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: helps the sack over his shoulder and walks off toward

958
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: the surrounding wood. And that's when you hear it. A

959
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: gunshot from a rifle, and then another, and then there's

960
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: a pause. Then another gun shot sounds. You see the

961
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: outlaw go down. It seems a third shot hit him.

962
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: A fourth gun shot sounds. When the gun smoke clears,

963
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: you see the outlaw is gone. Now standing by the

964
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: wagon is the son of the ferryman. It seems the

965
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: boy saw the outlaw waiting to ambush the wagon, and

966
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: he snuck back around, and when he saw he had

967
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: a moment, he grabbed a rifle from the wagon driver

968
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: and took aim at the outlaw. You certainly saw the

969
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: outlaw stumble as if he were a hit. But now

970
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: he's gone. The wagon driver hops down. He and the

971
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 2: ferryman's son checked the woods. All they find is evidence

972
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: the outlaw was indeed shot. There's a pool of his blood.

973
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: The trail leads off into the woods. The pair also

974
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: find a shirtcuff knocked off, apparently by the gunshot, and

975
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 2: a white silk crep handkerchief. Although you can't see him,

976
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: black Bart has yet again escaped on foot. Even though

977
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: he was shot, the bullet passed through his hand. It's

978
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: far from immortal wound, and he's able to flee. That

979
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: dropped silk handkerchief will spell his doom. Oh no, yes, well,

980
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: Elizabeth underknownst to you. Black Bart takes his sawed off shotgun,

981
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: his stolen fortune, secrets them away on a hollow log.

982
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: Then he heads for civilization. He tries to go and

983
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: blend in and dis appear in the streets of San Francisco.

984
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: The stagecoach driver was robbed that faithful November day. He

985
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: wrote a memoir twenty years later after about how the

986
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 2: day he was robbed by black Bart. In the manuscript,

987
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: he claims that he fired all four shots, and that

988
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: the ferryman's son, Rolliery never fired a single shot. I

989
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: guess he wanted all the credit for himself. He said

990
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 2: that his first shot missed, However, he was fairly certain

991
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: that the second or maybe his third shot hit his target.

992
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: In the contemporaneous reports, he said he fired the first

993
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: two shots, and Rolliary the boy took the gun and

994
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: fired the third one.

995
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: I think them all the guy was like quaking in

996
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 3: his boots and then a young upstart exactly.

997
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: So that means if he was right, that if two

998
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: of his shots hit, they would have hit this exact

999
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 2: same bullet hole because he only had one gun shot.

1000
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1001
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, as a result of being a hit, black Bart

1002
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: dropped that white silk crape handkerchief and importantly it had

1003
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 2: a laundry mark on it. They read f K seven.

1004
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: That handkerchief was then handed over to one of the

1005
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Wells Fargo detectives, James Hume. This is their first good

1006
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: clue they've ever had in years, so human his fellow Manhunters,

1007
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: detective Harry Morse. They ride into San Francisco and they

1008
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: figure that's where black Bart probably used a Chinese laundry.

1009
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: They go to every single laundry in San Francisco. If

1010
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: you were wondering how many that is, Elizabeth, at the time,

1011
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: they were roughly ninety one laundries ninety San Francisco.

1012
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: Yes that today, No.

1013
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Not not at all. So the professional old West manhunters,

1014
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: they only visit every single ninety ninety one. I finally

1015
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: discover a laundry called Ferguson and Biggs California laundry located

1016
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: at three one six Bush Street. The laundry lady, missus Where,

1017
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: tells them that the man who owns that handkerchief which

1018
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: is at the laundry just the day before, and he's

1019
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: expected to be back soon to pick up his laundry.

1020
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: This is how they learn the name of their prey.

1021
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: She says his name is Charlie Bolton and that he

1022
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: stays at a boarding house here in the city, not

1023
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: too far away. She gives them the address. The Manhunters

1024
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: go over to the boarding house. They stake out the building.

1025
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: The lawmen and the Wells Fargo detectives, working together, wait

1026
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: for their prey to return home. Meanwhile, Detective Morse goes

1027
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: back to the laundry to wait for Black Bart There case,

1028
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: he goes to pick a stuff up, and wouldn't you know, Elizabeth,

1029
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: guess who comes walking up. According to the San Francisco

1030
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 2: Examiner November nineteenth, eighteen eighty three edition, the laundry lady said,

1031
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: why here comes mister Bolton. Now I'll just introduce you

1032
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: to him for the first time ever. The manhunters, who've

1033
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: tracked him for years, they finally see him for the

1034
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: first time they lay eyes on him Black Bart in

1035
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: San Francisco at this point, it's about five o'clock in

1036
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: the afternoon. They go and they just rush over confront him.

1037
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: Blackbart knows he's caught there, and he's like, yeah, this

1038
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: is the end of my run as an outlaw.

1039
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: No, you have to be like, ah, you found my handkerchief,

1040
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: it got stolen.

1041
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: He gets done in by our laundry mark. So, according

1042
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 2: to those who knew him, Charlie Bowles had passed himself

1043
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: off as a man of adventure, a former gold miner

1044
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: who turned mining consultant slash mining engineer. His cover story

1045
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: neatly covers why he's always taking trips up to gold

1046
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: country and coming back with like flushed with cash. Yeah,

1047
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: ready to live more of that good life. According to

1048
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: the eighteen eighty eight edition of the Los Angeles Express,

1049
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: Detective Morris described Blackbart as how he rest and quote

1050
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: elegantly but not fleshly.

1051
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 6: Now.

1052
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: The same paper goes on to say that black Bart

1053
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: also quote carried a gold mounted cane and wore a

1054
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: Derby hat. He talked freely about valuable mining interests, and

1055
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: seemed for once to have lost all his shrewdness as

1056
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: he walked down Sansom Street arm in arm with Detective

1057
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: Morse and upstairs into the Wells Fargo building and into

1058
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: the office of Detective Hume. So they don't take him

1059
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: to the police. They take him to Wells Fargo. So

1060
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: the two Wells Fargo men, right, they braid him in

1061
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: the hidden away of the Wells Fargo off for towers.

1062
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: They throw down evidence they've collected over the years. Black

1063
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: Bart says nothing. Won't confess to anything. So the Wells

1064
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: Fargo man hunters. They go, fine, we're gonna turn you

1065
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: over to the real police. So they take him up

1066
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: to Calveras County and there in Gold Country. They that's

1067
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: where he was arrested on an old warrant and black

1068
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: Bart gets locked up in the Calaveras County jail. The

1069
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: Wells Fargo men then sit there and plead with him

1070
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: for five hours. Now that he's behind bars, he still

1071
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: won't talk to him really. Then sheriff of this guy,

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00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: Captain Stone, comes in. He lays out all the evidence

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Speaker 2: he's collected over the years. Black Bart looks up says,

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Speaker 2: can you prove all that? Sheriff's Captain Stone says, I can,

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00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: the black Bart says, all right, let's travel. He leads

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Speaker 2: the Wells Fargo men and the Sheriff of Calveris County

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00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: on a twenty four mile ride on horsebacks, when the

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00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: few times he ever rides by terrifying and according to

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Express quote, despite the severeness of the

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00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: journey and the discovery of his guilt, black Bart laughed

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00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: and talked as he rode. He kept his companions in

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00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: continual merriment by his bright flashes of wit. He narrated

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00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: many of his adventures and the surrounding wilderness, and his

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00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: voice echoed in the canyons as he would break forth

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Speaker 2: in song.

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00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: Whoa he's saying as he goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like the literal medieval troubadour, singing his own

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00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: outlaw song to the men. He's frustrated for years. So

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Speaker 2: good what outlaw brio?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: So good?

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00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: So when they arrived at the crime scene under the moonlight,

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00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: black Bart shows the lawman and the Wells Fargo manhunters

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00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: where the five thousand or so in gold he hid

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00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 2: into the and the hollow log and there's his trust

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00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: he sawed off shotgun. And they're like all right, So

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Speaker 2: then they take them back to San Francisco. He's tried, convicted,

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00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: sentence to six years in San Quentin. They had San

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00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: Quentin at the time. The light sentence is credited to

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00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: his gentlemanly ways with his victims, his kindness to ladies'

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00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 2: total lack of violence, and the fact that he didn't smoke,

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00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: drink Cussard duopium and else, that he worked alone. He

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00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: had no confederates. Yeah, throw the book at then. The

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00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: news of Blackbart's arrest is breathlessly reported from coast to coast.

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00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: The newspapers are a light with press coverage. After his arrest,

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: black Bart even wrote a letter to the wagon driver,

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Speaker 2: the last one the ones who he thought had fired

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00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: the shots at him. According to the Los Angeles Express,

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00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: black Bart wrote, and I quote stated that he remembered

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00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: him with nothing but the most kindly feelings. He complimented

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00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: him on his fine qualities as a driver, and was

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00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: only sorry that he could not be equally complimentary in

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00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 2: speaking of his marksmanship. On concluding, he wished him an unmolested,

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00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: prosperous and happy drive through life. He reassured the anxious

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00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: wife of the driver that her husband had nothing to

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00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: fear from the terrible Black Bart. So there's a promised

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00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: eighteen thousand dollars reward for the capture of the infamous

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00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: Black Bart, put up by Wells Fargo, State of California,

1119
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: and the federal government. They all put up in this money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: wagon driver, how much do you think he received this reward?

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth zero six hundred dollars. They promised eighteen thousand, three

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00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: hundred from Wells Fargo, three hundred from the State of California.

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Speaker 2: Federal government was like, what reward. I'm busy, I can't

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00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: hear you. I'man beep. Oh yeah, click it telegraphs wires broke.

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Speaker 2: There remains one question, why did Charlie Bulls become Black

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00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: part right? I told you wanted revenge? Well in court,

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00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: when asked his very question, he told the prosecutor quote,

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Speaker 2: I've had a rough life of it.

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Speaker 6: It is an uncommon circumstance which brings me to this condition,

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00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 6: an uncommon and mysterious one one which no man living

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 6: except myself knows.

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00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 2: And no man shall ever know. He will tell him.

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00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: Charlie Bulls also added that.

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00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 6: I would rather go to San Quentin for life than

1135
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 6: take a dime from a passenger or to injure him

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00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 6: in any other way. One can rob men at any place.

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00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 6: I never harmed a single individual and never committed any

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Speaker 6: crimes except against Wells Fargoing Company.

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Speaker 2: He also said to the news papermen after his conviction,

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Speaker 2: if it had not been.

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00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 6: For that handkerchief, I'll bet a thousand dollars they would

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00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 6: have never got me A thousand dollars, I say.

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00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 2: But that's that's just the way of speaking. Now, you know,

1144
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: I have no money. Now.

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00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 6: I never was much troubled with riches, and on the

1146
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 6: other hand, I never was absolutely needy.

1147
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: So black serves this time in San Quentin, gets released

1148
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: early for good behavior. Yeah, then by hook or by crook,

1149
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: with black Bart back outside. On November fourteenth, eighteen eighty eight,

1150
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 2: a Wells Fargo stage coach is hit by a masked

1151
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: Bandit not only that the robber left behind her verse

1152
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: of poetry. The poet had.

1153
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 6: So here, I have stood while wind and rain have

1154
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 6: set the trees a sobbing, and risked my life for

1155
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 6: that bus that wasn't worth the robin.

1156
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, was this evidence that my man black

1157
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: Bart was back at it? The famous detective Whould helped

1158
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: catch him. James Hume was brought in to investigate. He's

1159
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: shown the tattered piece of poetry left at the crime scene.

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00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 2: This grizzled old man hunter. Right, he reads the verse

1161
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: carefully like an English professor. I imagine, right, he's doing

1162
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: like literary medics. Yeah, met her in rhyme. He's determining

1163
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: from textual analysis. This is not the work of black Bart,

1164
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: It's a copycat. So he determines that in the n

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00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: black Bart spent his final days in a town near

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00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: my hometown, the beautiful town of Marysville we talked about

1167
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: with the Loose Chickens. Yes, a town he often haunted

1168
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: back when he hit stage coaches an outlaw, and there

1169
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: in Marysville he settles down and becomes a beloved pharmacist.

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00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 3: Wow, he died.

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00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: He was in Knights Landing, which is literally down the

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00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: road from Davis. We used to go to Knight's Landing

1173
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 2: to go fishing like all the time. That's allegedly where

1174
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: he is buried in an unmarked grave. I cannot believe

1175
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 2: I've never heard of this man before.

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00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: Now, I like any excuse to head up that way.

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00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: Let's go, And thus ends the story of Charlie Bowls

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00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: aka Charlie Naked Black Bart. That's the stagecoach Robert Poets.

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00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: That's incredible.

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00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: What's our ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth?

1181
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 3: I think that you know anytime that you can have

1182
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 3: a full hero like a Luigisque folk hero, but who's

1183
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: non violent m and who has an artistic flair to it,

1184
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: that's thank you. That was the tree you enjoy that. Okah, good,

1185
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: this is what about you?

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: Thank you for hasking me whoa yeah, I have one.

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00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: This is how I would get caught. I give you

1188
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: a successful for your years. And I get caught because

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00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 2: of my commitment to going to the same laundry lady,

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00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean like, And she'd have no

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00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: idea I was an outlaw because I had been lying

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00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: to her, even nice, and she believes me, and I'm

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00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: so nice that she knows I'm just some good guy

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00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. And then she'd tell the cops right

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00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: to find me, thinking she's helping me out, and I

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00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: get busted by the person trying to help me.

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00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: You always think you're invisible, that people don't ever remember,

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00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: very very memorable, So you're always surprised when everyone knows

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00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: who you are.

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Speaker 2: I remember thinking you were hearing that at the time.

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00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: I was like, really, yeah, Copper, you're writing a book anyway, Elizabeth,

1202
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: can you want to wash this all down to talk

1203
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: about to be perfect produced d Can you favor us

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Speaker 2: with one? Of course?

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Speaker 6: Oh god, I went get.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So I was listening to the latest episode and

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Speaker 5: I'm from Milton, Florida, and I'm just kind of internally

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00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 5: freaking out that my hometown was mentioned.

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Speaker 3: On Ridiculous Crime.

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Speaker 5: This is so cool. Update y'all just shouted out KOA

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00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 5: Campgrounds and I'm over here fangirling.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, girl, ka wait for life.

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Speaker 3: I love it. It is weird. I'm sure it's weird

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Speaker 3: to hear small towns mentioned.

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00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what.

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00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: We like to span coast to coast, seas to seas.

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00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: They used to call me Captain Flora Bama because I

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00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: know that spot.

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Speaker 3: You do know this.

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