1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: dot com, on the Giants part of the Giants podcast network. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giant Hubtle Podcast. This week, 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Giants rookie offensive tackle Evan Neil. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Joe Person, who covers the Panthers 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: for the Athletic and Bob Poppa sits down for his 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: weekly chat with Giants head coach Brian Dable. 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Evan, 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: let's start here. You had a chance to, you know, 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: look over the tape of your first game. How do 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: you think you did a fel like I had a 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: pretty good sean um and nothing to have a perfect 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, you go back and watch the film and 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: analog of the things you did wrong, and you know, 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: try to grow from the things you know you did 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: pretty good at but overall, uh, maybe more mistakes than 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to But his first game, I mean, have 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: another games, ready to come out and get better. But 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I performed well enough to help the 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: team win. So that's that's the biggest thing. Was it 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: a big difference from what you experienced in the preseason. 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: Was it a little bit faster, a little bit more physical, 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: or was it just a little bit more of the same. Yeah, 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: I can definitely say it's a little bit more faster, 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more physical. You know, uh going up 34 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: against first team guys and you know they're bringing their 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: absolute best pass rush moves and and uh like that. 36 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: So it was definitely a good experience. It's definitely fun. 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Anything surprised you that maybe you weren't expecting, just in 38 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: terms of the rhythm of the day, getting ready, warm ups, halftime, 39 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: anything just about that regular season experience catch up by 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: surprise at all? You know nothing about the regular season 41 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: process already called me by surprise pretty well pretty much 42 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: was pretty much spot on, you know, pre game like 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: what I did for Alabama and what I did here 44 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: is pretty much spot on. I mean not surprised Alabama 45 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: and basically runs a program. Now, now now I'm not the 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: eyes by that. Once you got done with all the 47 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: offseason training stuff. I know you didn't do a lot 48 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: of the combine, but so much of that offseason draft 49 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: preparation isn't necessarily football training, right, it's kind of preparing 50 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: for the draft process. Once you got done with that, 51 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: what was that transition like for you going from the 52 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: draft process preparation to actually trying to get ready to 53 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: play football. Yeah, it was like I was excited, you 54 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: know because driving the drift process it is in football, 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: you're trying to run the shuttle due to forty and 56 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: lifting weights and stuff like that, you know, you didn't 57 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: really have time to get better as a ball player. 58 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: So definitely coming out the O T A S and 59 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, the summer and stuff like that in fall 60 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: camp is a definitely great, a great feeling because you know, 61 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I got to got the chance to go back out 62 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: there and just hone my skills and just get better 63 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: as an offensive linemer. What was your focus this offseason 64 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: once you started doing that stuff? Where were you trying 65 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: to improve yourself? Yeah? I just wanted to get you know, uh, bigger, faster, stronger, 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: more flexible, better flexibility, and also just work on my technique, 67 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, just just just trying to refine my game overall. 68 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned your technique and we had long conversations with 69 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas about this when he was a rookie a 70 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: couple of years back, and the technique they used to 71 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: block as a line was different here than it was 72 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: at Georgia. How much different was the overall technique as 73 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: a line and as an individual that they're asking you 74 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: to hear with the Giants compared to what you did Obama. Um, 75 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: it's not entirely different. I mean the thing with me, man, 76 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: it's not so much the scheme over they're asking us 77 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: to do opposed to college or here, because I mean, 78 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: offensive line players keep the quarterback up right and open 79 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: up running lines for the running back. It's just the 80 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: fact of uh, you know, I kind of I played 81 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: three different positions in college, so I never got the 82 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to really, you know, hone in on one spot, 83 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, because I was just bouncing around so much. 84 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: So it's just a great opportunity for me to be 85 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: able to just stick at right tackling home my skills 86 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: that right tackles I'm inside this year. Your last season 87 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: was left tackle at Alabama. So did you fall back 88 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: into a rhythm pretty quickly that it takes some time 89 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: to get used to reversing that footwork back to what 90 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: you did. How much of a transition was that for you? 91 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it took a little time. Um, but I 92 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: have played left tackle my senior year and uh high school, 93 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: so it came back to me. But like, I feel 94 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: like I was just a versatile, talented guy. So I 95 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: could uh you know, play on any spot and I could, 96 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, um just do well. But um, like technically, 97 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: like as far as my technique wise, even if you know, 98 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: watch something, I take it out of left hope, And 99 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: my technique wasn't the greatest or the best that I 100 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: wanted it to be. But I could go out there 101 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: and perform good enough to you know, help myself do 102 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: well and help the team do do well also, you know. 103 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: So I'm just excited to really hone in on one 104 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: spot and just perfect that. Yeah, it's funny. When we 105 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: were talking to Andrew and he was a rookie, you know, 106 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: he talked about how with Georgia, a lot of times 107 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: they would slide, so he would always have inside help. Right, 108 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: So when he got to the pros, he was on 109 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more of an island and he's had 110 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: some issues getting beat inside early because he said, look 111 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: at Georgia, I always had a guy there. If the 112 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: guy made it inside, move on me. So anything like 113 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: that in terms of differences of just how they put 114 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: the protection together as a team. So maybe they were 115 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: asking you to do some things that are different here 116 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: compared to Alabama, or wasn't really much more of a 117 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: smooth transition for you? Yeah, it was pretty smooth. I 118 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: was on the island at Alabama for sure, so I'm 119 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: just of being on an island. Um, So yeah, it 120 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: really wasn't much of a transition to that regard what 121 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: was that? Did Andrew give you good advice? You know, 122 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: talking to you about what it was like coming in 123 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: as a young tackle be asked to play right away 124 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: and how to make that transition and be effective right 125 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: away kind of getting thrown into the deep end of 126 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: the pool. Yeah, we didn't have that conversation in specific, 127 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: but Andrew's always just asking me to, you know, take 128 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: extra pass as with him after practice, so you know, 129 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: just evaluate rushers that we're gonna play against the upcoming 130 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: weeks and stuff like that, and just you know, doing 131 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: you know everything you can just give me a little 132 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: tidbits and bits and pieces that maybe helped him along 133 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: the way. So I appreciate that. It seems like your 134 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: guys personalities and approaches are kind of similar. Do you 135 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: feel like you guys just kind of low key, you're 136 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: very serious and very professional. Do you feel like you 137 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: guys are kind of like two peas out of the 138 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: same pot a little bit. Yeah, you can definitely say 139 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: that Andrew is a quiet guy, much like myself, business 140 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: oriented and he's a hard worker. So I definitely could 141 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: say that anything about the college program you're at, the 142 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: way you were raised or brought up that has allowed 143 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: because everyone has talked about how studious you are and 144 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: how serious you are, and sometimes from rookies, they don't 145 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: understand that's what it takes to be a really good pro, 146 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: but you do. What is it about the way you 147 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: were brought up and kind of taught football that has 148 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: allowed you to apply that so quickly in the NFL. Yeah, 149 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: I was raised up on hard work. Uh. My dad 150 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: he beat that in all of his kids. You know, 151 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: in order to be successful that something. You know, you 152 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: gotta do the little things right and you have to 153 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: work hard at it. And then going to a program 154 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: like IMG, you know, those same principles that reinforced. Then 155 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: at Alabama they show enough where enforced because coach Saban 156 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: is all about you know, the little things and you know, 157 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: doing us right and doing your job for sure. So 158 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: what has been like working with Glewinsky next year? It 159 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: must be nice having a veteran next year at right guard? 160 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 1: Right you guys have to work together on the twist 161 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: and the games and stuff. What has it been like 162 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: working with Mark? It's awesome having glowed next to me? Yeah, 163 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: he glows. That's my guy. He's always a help of 164 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: me and whatever way that he can stand after you know, 165 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: just watching film, breaking down film with me and stuff 166 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: like that, and you're just making Sean keyed in on 167 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: line calls and stuff like that. So I'm definitely appreciative. Blue. Yeah, 168 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: I love watching your approach. I'm gonna go back to 169 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: a snap that you had and one on ones against 170 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: the Jets and the joint practice, and you're going against 171 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: and thing was John Franklin Myers, and he tried to 172 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: bull rush you and maybe he took your two steps 173 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: back ento the bankering and he walked away and he 174 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: started talking to you, and he's he's yapping, and as 175 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: you walk away, you just flap your fit little fingers 176 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: like this, like keep talking, keep talking. I stopped you. 177 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: That that's all I care about. Is that kind of 178 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: a good representation of your approach and how you want 179 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: to play? Yeah? Man, I want to talk with my 180 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: solo pass like it takes too much energy to talk, 181 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm just I'm just being serious, 182 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, that's that's not something that I have 183 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: to do to be able to you know, some guys 184 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: you was talking to try to create an edge like 185 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: I never had to do that. Hey, man, just have 186 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: your game to the talking that that's all you gotta do. 187 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: So you've been going against Ojulari and Thibodeaux and practice. 188 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: We don't know if they're gonna play this week. We'll 189 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: say when they eventually do get on the field. What 190 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: are giant fans gonna see and what kind of issues 191 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: are those guys gonna give opposing defense, opposing offenses, They're 192 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna put pressure on the court. It back this way. 193 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited for those guys to get out there and 194 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: just feed off of each other and put pressure in 195 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: that quarterback. That that's what we need and I'm excited 196 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: to go out there and watch them do it. Do 197 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: you feel like you're a little further ahead in the 198 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: run game of the past game right now? Where do 199 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: you think they're about? Neck and neck? Um, To be 200 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: quite honest with you, man, like overall, man, I feel 201 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: like I need to get better all around. Like I'm 202 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: really nowhere near who I really want to be or 203 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: why I envision myself playing. But um, I can say, 204 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, wasn't what. I can't say that I'm a 205 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: little better in one area or or the next, because, um, 206 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: some of the things that I do good at, you know, 207 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: in past protection, you know, in the run game, I 208 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: may not do it's good. You know. So I just 209 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of feel like, you know, I'm just I'm just 210 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: focusing on getting better. That that's it. Just overall, just 211 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: getting better. Do you like Bobby Johnson's coaching style? Every 212 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: offensive one might have talked to you said, look, he's 213 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: straight up with you and he's gonna let you know 214 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: good or bad what's going on. Do you like that? Yeah? 215 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: I respect that man's supposed to be straight up with people. 216 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, I I don't believe in b Sen. You 217 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: know I believe and you know I got telling me 218 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: the truth. And that's definitely something that I respected bout 219 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Coles Johnson for sure. All right, let's talk about the 220 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: opponent very quickly before we say goodbye. Panthers coming up here. 221 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: They got a very talented pass rusher and Brian Burns 222 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: uh YouTube Gross Mathos from Penn State. I think the 223 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: second year in the league for him. What do you 224 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: see from those pass orcers when you watch him on tip? 225 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: They're very fast defense? Uh, Brian Burns, very fast guy, 226 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: luso guy, He's long, he has a really good spin move. 227 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: He can get up the field on you, like right now. 228 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure I stay square 229 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: and then side out on that guy. But it regardless 230 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: of whatever it's gonna take to get the job done, 231 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do. So I'm just excited to 232 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: go out there and battle with them and just go 233 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: to wall. Now. You know, the Panthers are gonna be 234 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: a little bit chippy after giving up two hundred rushing 235 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: yards last week, They're not gonna want that to happen again. 236 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: But you guys ran the ball extream me well in 237 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: week one. So as an offensive line, is that like 238 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: the perfect game for you where you can just pound 239 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: it and pounded and pounded and that's how you move 240 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: the ball up and down the field. Oh yeah, I 241 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: mean the running game and never you're just pounding and 242 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: pounding and pounding and pounding and pounding like that. That 243 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: wears on the defense, you know, and that opens up 244 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: those big shots down the field. You know. So I 245 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: just like it just kind of keeps those guys honest, 246 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: you know. So I definitely definitely enjoy a pounding the 247 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: rock in the round game. Is there something different about 248 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: doing it in the red zone because I feel like 249 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: in order to score in the red zone, the space 250 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: is so constricted, right, It's hard to throw in the 251 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: red zone. But you guys, I think on your two 252 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: red zone possessions you score touchdowns. I think you ran 253 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: it almost eight times, only passed it twice and that's 254 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: how you got in the end zone. Is there something 255 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: a little bit different that you guys have to do 256 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: or bring in order to run the ball effectively in 257 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: the red zone in those condensed spaces, Yeah, there's a 258 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: there's obviously, like you said, there's less space in the 259 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: round game for sure. So I just want to make 260 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: sure you get half for had and just you know, 261 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: score score with your guys, score test down with your 262 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: guy for sure. Uhum. CAFCL did a good job of 263 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: doing a lot of like the naked like play action, 264 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: like naked bootlegs and stuff like that, and you know, 265 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: just different things, but definitely getting the red zone. I 266 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: want to run the ball, you know, So everybody just 267 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: get a half for a hat and take that guy 268 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: to the end zone. We're gonna score. Were talked about 269 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: the individual pass ructions. How muchus are they gonna do? 270 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Are they're gonna run a lot of games, a lot 271 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: of stunts, a lot of twists, a lot of linebackers. 272 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: What are you gonna see in terms of their pressure packages? Yeah, 273 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: I saw that they they do a lot of twists 274 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: that they don't really run a lot of twist or 275 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: as games as a Tennessee did in my opinion, But 276 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: they do twists, they do move up front, and they 277 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: do pressure, and they do blitz. But it regardless of 278 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: what they bring uh to us, I believe we're going 279 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: to be ready. The coaches are definitely equipping us and 280 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: giving us the best looking practice, so we'll be able 281 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: to get it all picked up now. Finally, we don't 282 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: want the crab to be lab when you guys have 283 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: the football, obviously, but are you excited to be a 284 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: MetLife stadium for your first regular season game in front 285 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: of Giant fans? Extremely excited? Is my birthday weekend, you know, 286 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: happy birthday? Thank you man. It's extremely excited to go 287 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: out there and just play our hearts off for the fans. Evan, 288 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: best of luck, congratulations on your first game, and best 289 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: luck in your home opener. Thank you man. Hey, Giant fans, 290 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: make sure you're a MetLife stadium for the next home game. 291 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: September twenty six, the Giants will host the rival Dallas 292 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys from Monday Night Football. A special Ring of Honor 293 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: ceremony will take place during halftime. Limited individual and group 294 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: tickets are still available as the Giant Style Com slash 295 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: tickets to secure your seat today. That's Giants right tackle, 296 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: Evan Neil. We thank you for joining us on the 297 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: Giant Subtle Podcast. Now let's turn it over to Paul Detino. 298 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: On Lance Meadow, they preview the Carolina Panthers with Joe Person, 299 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: who covers them for the Athletic. The Giants welcome the 300 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Panthers to MetLife Stadium this weekend for their regular season opener. 301 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: Both teams had their games decided by a last second 302 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: field goal in Week one, and to get more into 303 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: this matchup, we are now joined by the man who 304 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: covers the Panthers for the Athletic, none other than Joe Person. 305 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Joe you got, Lance Meadow and Paul Detino here on 306 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: Giants dot Com greatly appreciate the time, Hope ball as well. 307 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: How's everything on your end? Everything good man? We got 308 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: football season cranking up. Um, gonna be heading up to 309 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: New York, Gonna gonna take in the West Point Bill 310 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: and Nova game on Saturday, and then an NFL game Sunday. 311 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: That's that's not so bad, very nice. So a little 312 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: bit of double dipping between college and the NFL. Well, 313 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: we certainly appreciate you coming on, And I want to 314 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: start in terms of Sunday's game for Carolina with Cleveland Joe, 315 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: because if you look at the optics, you look at 316 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: the numbers, I don't even know if a tale of 317 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: two halves is fitting. It was more of a tale 318 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,239 Speaker 1: of three quarters in one quarter based on what Carolina 319 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: did in the fourth. So what exactly clicked, what registered 320 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: late in the game that finally got that offense on track, 321 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to pinpoint one thing they they 322 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Matt Rule said that they really were just sort of 323 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: everyone was sort of speeding things up, and I think 324 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: that was a function of the first game with Baker Mayfield. 325 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: You know, remember remember he came in here late, like 326 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: he didn't and then he didn't get many preseasons uh snaps, 327 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: not as many as you would think, because they extended 328 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback competition, you know, into the third week of 329 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: the preseason, so he was sharing rets with Sam Donald 330 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: for the first month of training camp. So I do 331 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: think of a lot out of it Sunday as the 332 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Browns was just kind of, as you said, it, just 333 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: the one clicking early on an example, first play at 334 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: the game supposed to be a five step drop, Baker 335 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Mayfield take the three step drop, throws the timing off. 336 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: They had a lot of plays like that. They had 337 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: four fumbled snaps which they somehow managed to recover all 338 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: four of them. And uh, you're right. It took until 339 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter or late in the third today started 340 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: looking especially offensively like a you know, an NFL type 341 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: of office. You know, Joe. What surprised me about that game, 342 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's going to have an impact on 343 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: this week's game plan against the Giants is that if 344 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: you have a team trying to feel its way through, 345 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: you usually lean on the one constant you have. And 346 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: even though Christian McCaffrey has been injured the last couple 347 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: of years, the guy only gets fourteen touches in the game, 348 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: I gotta feel he's gonna get at least twenty five 349 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: against Big Blue. Yeah. I didn't get that either. That 350 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: was a head scratcher. The only thing I can think 351 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: is that they were trying to save him for the 352 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: second half. And you know, they they they wouldn't say that, 353 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: they haven't said that, but it just sort of had 354 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: that feel. And I'll tell you what that did too. 355 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: It it hurt them offensively obviously for reasons I just mentioned, 356 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: but it hurt them defensively too because there were all 357 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: these three and outs early in the game for the 358 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Panthers offense and the defense, which is one of these, 359 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of their strong suit. They were 360 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: starting to wear down early in the game. It was 361 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: sort of a hot day. They were on this artificial 362 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: turf that the Panthers have put in last season, and 363 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: it all just added up to to to a bad 364 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: strategy by Ben McAdoo. Frankly, um, I think that's gonna change, 365 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: as you said, and change in a pretty big way 366 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: in getting Christian Max McCaffrey involved early in Austin against 367 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: the Giants, Joe McCaffrey, the play of Baker Mayfield all synonymous, 368 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: of course, as you can attest to from covering the 369 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: NFL with the offensive line, and much like the Giants 370 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: in previous years, Carolina's offensive line has been put under 371 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: the microscope, and they revamped that group this offseason. They 372 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: drafted Iky Aquana in the first round. They brought in 373 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Bradley Bozeman as well as Austin Corbett in free agency. 374 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Two part Question number one, how did you feel a 375 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Quantu held up in his first regular season action. Indeed, Bozeman, 376 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: I know, missed some time during camp with an ankle injury, 377 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: but did not play last week. It was pat lf line. 378 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: How much do you think they have the conversation about 379 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: reinserting Bozeman into the lineup this week. Yeah, So on 380 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: a Quantu it was a mixed bag, which I really 381 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of thought it was gonna look like that. I mean, 382 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: facing Miles Garrett and all pro in your first ever 383 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: NFL game. He had some moments where he where he 384 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: did pretty well against Miles Garrett, and there were times 385 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: that they they gave him a little help with some 386 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: tight ends chipping on their way out. But then there 387 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: was a sequence in the in the second half. I 388 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: think it was the third quarter where Garrett beat a 389 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Quantu back to back plays for sacks blind side hits, 390 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: big hits. Uh first one anyway on on Baker Mayfield, 391 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: the second with second one strip sacks Baker fell on it. Um. 392 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: So listen, Ikey a quantis past blocking as they work 393 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: in progress. Like his his deal at NC State, he 394 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: was a physical mawler in the run game, had all 395 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: these pancake blocks NC stayed at a deal where they 396 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: give their linemen bottles of maple syrup. He collected collected, 397 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: but pass blocking and you guys know, I guess it's 398 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: HiT's a different animal at this level with the stediously 399 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: with the moves, different moves and pass rush, you know, 400 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: like college, a quantner is that you're facing guys who 401 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: had like one move not so much anymore. So that's 402 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: a matchup to look at. And then elf Line. I 403 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: think Pat alf Line will continue to be the center 404 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: this week. I just think right now with the injury 405 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: to Bradley Boseman, he's healthy. I just think right now 406 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: they feel like elf Line gives them their best chance 407 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: to win in the middle. Despite uh those center quarter 408 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: center quarterback exchange prowdles. Last week, Robby Anderson had the 409 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: big seventy five yard touchdown grab against Cleveland. D J Moore, 410 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: one of the most underrated receivers in this league, had 411 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: a quiet opening week in the game against the Browns. 412 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: What will we expect to see different from the passing 413 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: game this week? When you just mentioned the old lines 414 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: in the bit of a flock sin Baker Mayfield may 415 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: not be fully comfortable with the offense yet Yeah, I 416 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: don't know, there'll be a lot different. They just hope 417 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: it's a lot more efficient, right, And guys, I went 418 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: back and looked, it's a little bit of apples and oranges, 419 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: because it's obviously a new system, a whole new team. 420 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield, his Week two record in Cleveland was 421 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. He was his rookie year. He didn't play 422 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: until Week three, so throw that out. But then the 423 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: next three years he was three and oh in Week 424 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: two coming off Brown's losses UH in the openers, and 425 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: in each case his passing yardage and or UH passer 426 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: ratings and in some cases both went up. So again, 427 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: how much to make of that, I don't know, I mean, 428 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: but but listen, after the Panther's offense, the way they 429 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: played last week, they'll they'll take any glimmer of hope 430 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: and and I do think they're trying to rally around 431 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter. And you know, Matt Rule sort of 432 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: playing around a little bit with stats this week, saying like, hey, 433 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: if you take just the last twenty five minutes of 434 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: that game, we average seven point seven yards of play, 435 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: which would have been third in the league. Well, okay, 436 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: well that the first thirty five minutes count also, um, 437 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: but my point is, you know there there were some 438 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: signs in that game, but you know you mentioned Robby Anderson, 439 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: get getting behind the Browns defense. They gotta get DJ 440 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: more On tracked, and they absolutely have to get Christian 441 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: McCaffrey a bunch more touches. We're talking with Joe Person 442 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: who covers the Carolina Panthers for the Athletic Giants hosting 443 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers in their regular season home opener this weekend. 444 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: You brought up statistics, and if I heard correctly, Joe, 445 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: one of the stats that Matt Rule brought up when 446 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: he spoke to the media this week was eighteen miss 447 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: tackles on defense, which it's not a surprise based on 448 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: that why the Browns rand the ball so effectively. But 449 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: now they have to deal with, say Kwon Barkley, who 450 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: clearly had a field day at the expense of Tennessee 451 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: last week. What do you attribute to the miss tackles? 452 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: Is that a product of what you're talking about, Baker 453 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: in the offense, not enough guys playing the preseason and 454 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: how do they go about cleaning that up. Yeah, I 455 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: think it's a combination of all of that, and the 456 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: fact that the Browns have a couple of really good 457 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: running backs. Just does the Giants do? Uh? In in 458 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: the persons of Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt, and it 459 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: seemed like Chub will get a little tired incomes these 460 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: fresh legs of Kareem Hunt and vice versa. But but 461 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: still inexcusable to have that many miss tackles, you know, 462 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: how do you clean it up? I mean, that's that's 463 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: team wise. I'm not exactly sure what Bill snow will do. 464 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: I think he likes the personnel. He might try to 465 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: get one guy to keep an eye on. Potentially, is 466 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: they signed Henry Anderson, who him the Patriots had had 467 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: waived injured and he had signed him specifically the veteran 468 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: defensive end to be a run stuffer, and he was 469 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: on the field some last week. But they might try 470 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: to get him a little more involved just because he 471 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: has that sort of setting the edge pedigree and might 472 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: hold up better than some of their kind of leaner 473 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: uh edge rusher types. But but other than that, they 474 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: just got to hope and think that they're gonna kind 475 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: of swarm to the ball a little better and have 476 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: a couple of guys rather than one trying to bring 477 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: down Stay Kwon bark Within. Let me ask you about 478 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: this pass rush because they allowed and son Reddick to 479 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: escape to Philadelphia via free agency, and it's just not 480 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: that easy to replace double digit sacks. Are they going 481 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: to ask too much of Brian Burns to do it 482 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: all by himself? Feels like, yeah, I mean the right 483 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: at the beginning of training camp, their general manager Scott 484 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: Fitter it was actually a long time ago. I've spent 485 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: one year as an area scout with the Giants. Nevertheless, 486 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: Fitner said very clearly he thought they needed another edge 487 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: rusher and kind of kept waiting. They talked that they 488 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: had brought Carlo's dun Lap in for a visit. He 489 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: goes to Kansas City. You know, they were kind of 490 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: talking to some other guys and they didn't didn't do 491 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: it like they're trying to kind of do it by committee. Uh. 492 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: They have a guy who's since fourth year named Marquis Haynes, 493 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: who's been a situational pass rusher. But yeah, that was 494 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: a problem last week. I mean, you know, as much 495 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: as the run game was a problem, I mean still 496 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: I think Brissette through it. Like thirty four times, so 497 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: they had ample opportunity to try to go after him, 498 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: and I think they had one sack and came on 499 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: a blitz from from their linebacker Damien Wilson. So yeah, 500 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: right out to me, it's just too easy if you 501 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: are an imposing coach or coordinator to say, all right, 502 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: who do we need to take away in this Panthers defense, 503 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: and it's Brian Burns and beyond that, there's not a 504 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: whole lot that scares you. And so I think Burns 505 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: is going to face a bunch of chip blocks and 506 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: occasional double teams until uh, somebody like markis Haynes or 507 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: Eat or Gross Mattos or even former Jet Frankie Lubu 508 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: steps up. Speaking of the pieces on defense, Joe, I 509 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: want to turn to the secondary because, as you brought up, 510 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: even though the numbers weren't overwhelming in terms of the 511 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: Browns passing attack, Jacoby Rosette still put the bowl in 512 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: the air a high volume of times. And this was 513 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: the first test really for j C. Horn to get 514 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: back in the mix because he missed the bulk of 515 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: last season with a fractured foot. How did he hold 516 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: up for his first action in quite some time. And 517 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: I guess overall since this year three of Phil snow scheme, 518 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: how much is this show me time really for this 519 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: unit given the fact that for the most part there 520 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: is some continuity on that side of the ball. Yeah, 521 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: So on the hornpiece first, Um, he held up fine physically, 522 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: I mean on that foot that that he had broken 523 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: last year. He had a couple of defensive holding penalties, 524 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: one of which I mean both extended to dry but 525 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: one was a little costlier than the other. And he 526 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: is sort of a grabby hands each type of corner 527 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: that was, he had a lot of penalties coming out 528 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: of South Carolina. I mean that that's sort of his style. 529 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: That is his style. He's a big, physical kid, so 530 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: they can live with some of that. But um, you 531 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: know there there there is sort of that fine line 532 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: between Okay, that's his style and man, that just that 533 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: that really hurt us that drive. So but in terms 534 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: of Phil Snow in the in the defense overall, they 535 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: were are They were the second ranked defense last year 536 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: overall in terms of yards allowed. It was a little 537 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: bit a little bit misleading only because they gave up 538 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of points the second half of the so 539 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: and some of that was short fields or what have you, 540 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: but they weren't real good in the red zone and uh, 541 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: and they were not and they got gashed several times 542 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: in the run in the run game, including by the Giants. Uh. 543 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: The Giants, Washington and Dallas all got them pretty good. 544 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Actually might not have been the Giants, I think, thinking 545 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. But nevertheless that they have some pieces they've 546 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: invested on the defense. You mentioned the secondary. They've got 547 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: a couple of first round picks back there in in C. J. 548 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Henderson and J. C. Horne. They've got two second round 549 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: picks in Dante Jackson and Jeremy Chen. The first round 550 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: picks you know up front with Shack Thompson and Brian 551 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Burns and Derek Brown. It is shown me time. I mean, 552 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: they they're hoping to be able to lean on that 553 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: defense and uh and last week's again, I think they 554 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: might have leaned on him a little too much early 555 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: in that game. But but the defense has to step 556 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: up as well. I love Johnny Hector's ability to tilt 557 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: the field, and of course they picked him up in 558 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: free agency. And then Eddie Pinero comes in very late 559 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: as the place kicker. But the one big missing component 560 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: is now Andre robertson that kick return game, hurting his 561 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: knee and going on, I r uh. He's about as 562 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: good as they come and has been for several years. 563 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: How are they going to deal with that? So they're 564 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna have backup running back Cuba Hubbard return kicks which 565 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: he did some last year as a rookie and get okay. 566 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: Um he you know, and he did okay. And punt 567 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: return is another sec around kid uh. Former South Carolina 568 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver Shy Smith who was sort of a surprise 569 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: and training camp he he he really played his way 570 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: into the rotation. He's there starting slot guy right now. 571 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Over he's a sixth round pick over last year's second 572 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: round pick Terris Marshall Jr. And even he he even 573 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: beat out with Shard Higgins who came sort of with 574 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland with Baker from Cleveland, and we really saw those 575 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: two have a lot of chemistry. Anyway, back to your point, 576 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: sty Smith has done some punt returning also, I think 577 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: in college, but that's yeah, they lose something there and 578 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: I think I think for this first game without Andre Roberts, 579 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be Okay, if Shy Smith just 580 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: is fair catching the ball and not turning it over, 581 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: and if he gives them some positive yards or happens 582 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: to to you know, break off a fifteen yard return, 583 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: and that's grave. I mean, he's a fast kid. Like, 584 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but um but Andre Roberts when 585 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: health be and and that was a bit of a 586 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: risk of a signing, right guys, I mean, thirty four 587 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: year old guy, you're kind of inviting the possibility of 588 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: this happening. And unfortunately for Andre Roberts it it happened 589 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: right out of the sheet. Joe. Before we let you go, 590 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: I want to circle back to Baker Mayfield because I 591 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: brought this up last week when we were talking about 592 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: the Giants Tennessee matchup, how Ryan Tannehill and the Titans 593 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: had some experience going up against Wink Martin Dale's Baltimore's defense. 594 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: And now we have Wink trying to solve Baker Mayfield, 595 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: who he's gone up against twice a year for each 596 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: of the last four seasons. Given they were in the 597 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: same division. I'm curious what you think about that matchup 598 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: and whether or not Baker has a slight edge because 599 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: of his familiarity or Wink given the Giants defense is 600 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: still a little bit of the unknown. Yeah, it's a 601 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: great question, and it's we we asked sort of a 602 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: similar question last week of Baker in that role, because 603 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Baker was facing the Brown who has a very intimate 604 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: knowledge of of of baker mayfields, pluses and minuses and 605 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: his tendencies. And you know, I think that where we 606 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: saw it last week, and you but you can believe 607 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: that Winks telling the Giants the same thing is batted passes. 608 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned the fumbles. The other problem with Baker last 609 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: week was four bat had passes that the line of 610 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: scrimmage and and that listen, it's not a new problem 611 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: for Baker, and he he came into this year having 612 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: thrown more of those those tip balls at the line 613 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: than any other quarterback since when he entered the league. 614 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: And but but it really manifests itself last last week, 615 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: and Baker said the same thing to do this week. 616 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: He said, Look, I know what what they're telling the 617 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: Giants in that building. You see my feet stop, then 618 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: get your hands up. And he's got to do a 619 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: better job of sort of sliding its feet getting into 620 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, creating a passing lane, and then the line's 621 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: got to do a better job of of of when 622 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: you see those hands go up, it's sort of you 623 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: turn into run blocking mode, like you you have to, 624 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: and it's that that's a tough transition, Like I get it, 625 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: but you're going from past blocking and and as hands 626 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: go up and you gotta fire into those guys and 627 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: sort of if you can't get their hands down just 628 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: by grabbing them, then you shut try to shove them 629 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: at least and kind of get them off balance a 630 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: little bit. But that was a problem, and you know, 631 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of steam things 632 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: that Wink has up as sleep too that that you 633 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: know what we'll see on Sunday. But but I think 634 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: the batted passes it would be an interesting thing to 635 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: look at, uh as it was a problem last week, 636 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: and certainly Wink Martindale is well aware of that history 637 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: with Baker. So the game of chess ensues this week 638 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: is the Giants open their regular season home slate against 639 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: the Panthers at MetLife Stadium. He is Joe person who 640 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: covers Carolina for the Athletic Joe can't thank you enough 641 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate the time of the inside and we look 642 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you in East Rutherford this weekend. Thanks 643 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Joe alright appreciated, guys, Hey, Giant fans. The Giants official 644 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: connected TV streaming app, Giants TV brings original video content 645 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: and game highlights on demand and direct to Big Blue fans. 646 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: Giants TV is free on Apple TV, Roku, and Amazon 647 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Fire TV, and of course on the Giants mobile app. 648 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: That's Joe Person from the Athletic We thank him for 649 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: previewing the Carolina Panthers with Lance and Paul. Now let's 650 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: turn our attention to Bob Popa and his weekly chat 651 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: with Giants head coach Brian Dable. The Giants kick off 652 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: their home schedule against the Carolina Panthers season of Giants 653 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: Football Big Blue with a big win last week in 654 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee against the Titans Panthers coming off a loss at 655 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: home to Cleveland last week, and we're joined as always 656 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: by the head coach of the New York Football Giants, 657 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: Brian Dable. And coach, it's your first Sunday as the 658 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: head coach of the Giants for a home game. How 659 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: pumped up are you for this experience? Yeah? We're really excited. 660 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: You know, we've we've got our feet wet here in 661 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: the first game against Tennessee on the road, and it's 662 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: always good to play in front of your home crowd. 663 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: I know the players are are anxious to get out 664 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: here and look forward to the opportunity. Coach, Um, you know, 665 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: just going back to last week quickly, Um, you know, 666 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: one of the things that you preached since you took 667 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: over was you know, work ethic, work, work work, character, uh, 668 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: team building. And it really felt like all of those 669 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: things manifested itself in that game last week, because, let's 670 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: face it, at halftime, the numbers aren't looking great, but 671 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: the game is still within reach. Did some of what 672 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: you've been trying to instill here with the Giants sort 673 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: of show itself last week? Absolutely? I thought that the 674 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: captains did a really good job on the sideline of 675 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: just telling the players to play the next play. That's 676 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: something that we stress a lot um a bad play, 677 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: flush it, a good play, flush it, team accountability, support 678 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: one another and play for for sixty minutes. And you know, 679 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: there was there was a lot of good examples that 680 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: came from that that first game, and you know, we 681 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: tried to build off of it this week of practice, 682 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: and we're gonna need it uh today. Coach Obviously, for 683 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: those that have never been a head coach, UH, it's 684 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: a constant game of shuffle, so to speak. You know, 685 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: you get an injury reports and all these other things. 686 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Robinson comes out of the game clean, 687 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: but then he has to have appendicitis uh and an 688 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: appendicato me so um. Is that just one of the 689 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: challenges that you know you deal with during the course 690 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: of every week as a head coach. Yeah. Absolutely. Roster management, 691 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: you know who's up, who's down. Injuries and sometimes those injuries, 692 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: like you said, are not football related at times, and 693 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: you know that's why you take your time and you 694 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: pick the players you want to be on your roster 695 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: and your practice squad. Those are vital spots and everybody's 696 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: got to be ready to play. It's the next man 697 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: up mentality. All let's dial into the game today. You 698 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: gotta deal with Christian McCaffrey. You gotta deal with Baker Mayfield. 699 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: Let's start with those two. Not to mention d J. 700 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: Moore and Robbie Anderson. Anderson is a former Jet who's 701 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: a big play guy. But let's start with let's start 702 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: with the quarterback Baker Mayfield too. Um, you know you've 703 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: seen from your A f C days, But what are 704 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: some of the things that has jumped out about him 705 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: on tape that you know he's a nice fit for 706 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: this team. Again, I've had a lot of familiarity with 707 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: Baker that that goes back to the pre draft process 708 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: when we're getting ready to select the quarterback. Have a 709 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of respect for him. He has a live arm, 710 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: he can make every throw. You know, he's athletic, he 711 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: can get out of the pocket and he can take 712 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: the you know, the first play that's called and if 713 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't go well, improvise and turn it into a 714 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: second place. So our defense is is gonna have to 715 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: be on our toes with that. And and relative to 716 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: their skill players they got, they got very very good 717 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: skill players. You know, Robbie can take a distance. You know, 718 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: he is a fast, fast football player. We've got to 719 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: do a good job of stand on top of him. 720 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: And then McCaffrey obviously had starts with him and how 721 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: they want to utilize him and get him the ball, 722 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: which is a wide variety of ways, very good in space, 723 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: tough to tackle. D J. Moore is the same way. 724 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: They're They're just strong runners that have good run after 725 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: catch skills. We're gonna need eleven hats to the ball 726 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to tackle well. Yeah, and even 727 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: last week they had a big play with the tight 728 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: end on a busted coverage. So, I mean they have 729 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: the capability that had two past plays of over thirty 730 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: yards go to the other side of the ball. Um 731 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland had a little bit of success running the ball 732 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: against them, but it was week one and I think 733 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: they've talked in Carolina some of it just a function 734 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: of poor tackling. Just talk a little bit about what 735 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: they do defensively that has impressed you. Well, I would 736 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: say that they're very very fast unit. They fly to 737 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: the ball. They've got great team speed. Uh, They're tough 738 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: to block up front. You know, Derrek Brown is a load. 739 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: Burns is an exceptional off the edge player. Shack Thompson 740 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: is very very fast, elusive. Luvu Is is a kind 741 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: of a jack of all trades. He's very good. He's been, 742 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: you know, lined up in a few different spots. And 743 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: then a young secondary but Chin and Horn and Jackson 744 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: are are really good cover players. You know, I think 745 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: they'll they'll probably mix quite a bit of man in 746 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: there and and throw some zones, and you know, our 747 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to do a good job of 748 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: of trusting their fundamentals and techniques and beating the one 749 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: on ones coach. Obviously in these early stages of the season. Um, 750 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: it's the National Fake U Out League. You know, one 751 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: week's result, uh can look completely different the following week. 752 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: You know. Is that something that you know you as 753 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: a staff have certainly been alerted to, was like, all right, 754 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: you know Cleveland Carolina and tacklewell last week, but we 755 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: know in the NFL there's marked improvement between week one 756 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: and week two. Yeah. I think it's just a healthy 757 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: respect for the team you're playing and competing against every week. 758 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: The players, the coaches, the support staff. You know, they're 759 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: all at the top of their profession, and really one 760 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: week doesn't have anything to do with the next week. 761 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: If you go out there and you don't perform well, 762 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna win and get the results you want. 763 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: So our focus is really on what we can do 764 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: during the week and then taking it play by play 765 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: during the game and doing the things we need to 766 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: do on a consistent basis all the time to give 767 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: ourselves a chance um to get the results that we're 768 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 1: looking for. But our focus is on the process of 769 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: what we need to do. Coach, we appreciate a couple 770 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: of minutes. Best of luck against the Carolina Panthers, and 771 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: we'll do it all over again next week. Thanks, but 772 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. And I said for Friday's edition of 773 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: The Giants Little Podcast, I'm John Schmolke. As a reminder, 774 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: we have this format of show coming your way every 775 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: Friday this year. So it'll be a player interview with 776 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of game preview stuff and there, but 777 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: mostly it's more of a you know, bigger look at 778 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: the player the team and more of a regular podcast 779 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: interview with the player. Then you'll get your hardcore preview 780 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: with the person that covers the opposing team and then 781 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, Bob Papua, Brian Dables. So make sure you 782 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: stay two to the John Sutte Podcast. Every Friday, we'll 783 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: have this episode. We have our rapid reactions after the 784 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: games on Sunday or whenever the game happens to be. 785 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: If it's a Monday or Thursday night. We'll have a 786 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: rapid reaction immediately after those games. And then of course 787 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: we have our mid week episode which can be historical 788 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: thing like this week we had uh Eli Manning and 789 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: Shonahwa preview line Manning show coming your way. This week's 790 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: season two, we'll try to get some historical stuff as 791 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: I mentioned, and national reporters you know, well we'll try 792 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: to get those as the Giants play some more national 793 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: games and uh get some guys that cover the league 794 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: and hole to talk about the Giants in the NFL. Anyway, 795 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us on the John Suttle Podcast again, 796 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: The John's Mobile app podcast platforms, johnts dot com, Slash Podcast. 797 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm Schmelk for Papa for Metal, for the Tino for 798 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: Coach Table, for Ethan Neil for Joe Person. We'll see 799 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: you next time.