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Speaker 1: the cross. Our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they

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Speaker 2: Man, forgive me.

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Speaker 3: This is a forty seven Morning Update special edition with

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Speaker 4: Good Monday morning. It is nice to have you with

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Speaker 4: us on the forty seven Morning Update, and this morning

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Speaker 4: is going to be a little different than normal. I

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Speaker 4: have just gotten back from Charlie Kirk's memorial service. I

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Speaker 4: went with Senator Cruz and was there to be a

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Speaker 4: part of it. I was also there to talk about

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk's legacy on Fox News Channel. Many of you

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Speaker 4: may have seen those multiple appearances on Fox before the funeral,

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Speaker 4: and I just wanted to take you guys there so

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Speaker 4: that you know what happened, what we saw, what we witnessed.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to go down in history as

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Speaker 4: one of the most important days for spreading the gospel

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Speaker 4: that has nothing to do with politics. I think it's

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Speaker 4: most incredible days for what Charlie Cook believed in, what

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Speaker 4: he wanted for this country and people that are going

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Speaker 4: to have their lives forever change because the words that

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Speaker 4: were spoken at his memorial service. The entire political world

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Speaker 4: was there, but I can tell you what was really

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Speaker 4: to have a little different show this morning than normal,

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Speaker 4: but I want you to hear Sinata Cruz and I

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Speaker 4: reflect on on a day where both of us. So

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Speaker 4: with that, it's the forty seven Morning Update and it

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Speaker 4: starts right now. Today was I think maybe one of

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Speaker 4: the most incredible things I've ever witnessed in my life.

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Speaker 4: And I'm saying that going to memorial service. But Centata,

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Speaker 4: I think you probably feel the exact same way that

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Speaker 4: I do that this was a day where I feel blessed.

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Speaker 4: I feel honored that we were able to be there

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Speaker 4: am watching a revival take place that is so much

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Speaker 4: bigger than politics, and I think what we've witnessed today

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Speaker 4: was the start of something that could transform this country.

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Speaker 4: They're now saying over a hundred million was the number

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Speaker 4: of streams coming out of this event, and well, over

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Speaker 4: two hundred thousand people showed up, the majority of them

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Speaker 5: It was extraordinary.

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Speaker 5: It is right now, twelve nineteen am, Sunday night, early

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Speaker 5: Monday morning. You and I spent the entire day in

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Speaker 5: got to say, this was a powerful day. It was powerful.

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Speaker 5: Number one, we were grieving our friend. Both you and

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Speaker 5: I knew Charlie really well. I talked to him not

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Speaker 5: many weeks ago. You know, I met him when he

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Speaker 5: It's incredible in Texas on a Friday night, and that

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Speaker 5: I want my life to I want that kind of peace.

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Speaker 4: No doubt. And I want to paint a picture for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we landed, and it was an organic moment that

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Speaker 5: It actually reminded me of years ago. If you remember

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Speaker 5: this week that I thought it was a small snippet,

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Speaker 5: but it encapsulated who Charlie was well. And Van Jones,

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Speaker 5: you and I both know well. He's very much a

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Speaker 5: man of the left, maybe even far left. He's not

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Speaker 5: someone who you would typically envision saying nice things about

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Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk. But I want you to listen to what

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Speaker 5: he said in the last few days about his last

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Speaker 5: interaction with Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk and I were not friends at all. In fact,

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Speaker 7: the last week of his life, we were beef and hard,

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Speaker 7: beefing online, beefing on air. But the day before he died,

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Speaker 7: he did something that shocked me. He sent me a

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Speaker 7: personal message calling for a personal dialogue. Wanted me to

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Speaker 7: come on the show. He said we could be gentlemen together.

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Speaker 7: He said we could deal with our disagreements agreeably. And

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Speaker 7: in the past week and a half, just watching people

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Speaker 7: talk about civil wars and censorship and all this stuff

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Speaker 7: coming out of his death, I just thought it was

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Speaker 7: important to let people know, don't put that on Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 7: because the last day of his life he was reaching

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Speaker 7: out to have not more censorship, more conversation, more dialogue

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Speaker 7: with somebody who honestly was one of his adversaries. Me

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Speaker 7: and I just want to share that with the world,

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Speaker 7: and I hope that maybe it might help somebody on

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Speaker 7: both sides deal with issues more like you did.

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Speaker 4: Van putting that out there immediately brought me to today.

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Speaker 4: You and I were sitting there and we looked over

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Speaker 4: to the right of us, and you leaned over and

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Speaker 4: you said, there's Elon. And several weeks or months ago,

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Speaker 4: Charlie had said that he wanted Donald Trump and Elon

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Speaker 4: to make up.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 4: We then a few minutes later see Elon in the

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Speaker 4: box with President Trump. They hugged the President, patted him

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Speaker 4: on the chest, and he tweeted out a picture Elon

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Speaker 4: did of them talking, and all it said was for Charlie,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you want to talk about bringing people back together.

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Speaker 4: That's incredible.

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Speaker 5: I will say I respect Van Jones for putting that out.

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Speaker 5: You know Van better than I do. But he didn't

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Speaker 5: have to put that out. He didn't have to say that,

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Speaker 5: and I do think it reflects who Charlie was, and

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Speaker 5: I think the entire memorial today reflected. It was a

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Speaker 5: celebration of his life, and it was a proclamation of

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Speaker 5: the Gospel and that I'm really grateful to have been

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Speaker 5: friends with Charlie. I'm really grateful to have a chance

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Speaker 5: to be there for the celebration because I think it

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Speaker 5: is going to have really profound impacts on our co I.

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Speaker 4: Think we're going to end up finding out down the

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Speaker 4: road that today was one of the biggest days, not

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Speaker 4: in politics with the biggest people in politics in a room,

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Speaker 4: but one of the biggest days for young men and

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Speaker 4: women excepting Christ and learning about the Lord from this

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Speaker 4: horrific moment in our history. And I think you look

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Speaker 4: at that bring all these people together, the way that

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Speaker 4: he was doing it. I think it's going to change

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Speaker 4: the way we have dialogue and conversation. I think my

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Speaker 4: demeanor's probably gonna be different. I'm still going to fight

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Speaker 4: the good fight, and I'm still going to fight hard,

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Speaker 4: but I want to have better conversations while doing it.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody's temperature is going to change a little bit,

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Speaker 4: and how we interact the way that Charlie did it.

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Speaker 4: And I left there today, and I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: want to ask you this as we wrap. I left

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Speaker 4: there today more hopeful for the future of this country, yes,

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Speaker 4: than I have been in decades, and more hopeful for

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Speaker 4: the younger generation in this country that they're going to

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Speaker 4: see the light, because I've been very worried for quite

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Speaker 4: some time. It's part of the reason why I do

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Speaker 4: this is that we have lost an entire generation to

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Speaker 4: the radical left. I think we are seeing a very

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Speaker 4: quick pendulum shift that only God could create and put

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Speaker 4: people in a place to do it.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. You know. I'm reminded of the Scripture Second Chronicles

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Speaker 5: seven fourteen. If my people, who are called by my

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Speaker 5: name will humble themselves in pray and seek my face

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Speaker 5: and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear

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Speaker 5: from heaven, and I will forgive their sins, and I

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Speaker 5: will heal their land. That has been my prayer for

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Speaker 5: a long time, and I think today was in a

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Speaker 5: very real sense a great many people in America calling

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Speaker 5: out for God to hear our prayer and to heal

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Speaker 5: our land. And I pray that that is the outcome.

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Speaker 5: The path we are on that we see revival our

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Speaker 5: country us.

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