1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: It's way up with Angela Yee, Angela Yee and Romaine 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: Virgo is here in the flesh. Yes, it's fine. I 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: know because we interviewed you on Zoom during the pandemic 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: mm hmm. And even for you. First of all, I've 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: been watching your blogs, so hopefully this is I'm going 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: to make it onto the blog, right, I want to 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: make it onto one of the blogs. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, But. 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: I feel like something like that has definitely made people 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: feel so much closer to you and your family. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: It has, and I'm grateful for it. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for this platform and even my shoes nowadays, 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: when I go around the world and perform, I know 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: that maybe it's seventy five percent of the people who 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: come over to the shoes, you know, our people who 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: are more into this world YouTube channel, you know, and 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: watching us and getting to know like a different side 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: of Imine Virgo outside of music, because that's what the 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: China does. It shows people that there's more to him 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: different from music, you know. 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's great because first of all, you 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: have a huge following just on the YouTube. That's not 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: an easy thing to always build up. But then we 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: get to see like your relationship with your wife Elizabeth. 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I know her with the girls, with 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: the twins, So that's amazing. What made you decide to 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: even start that. 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: The pandemic, I feel like there was nothing to do, 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: and we just wanted to see how we could lift 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: the spirit of people around the world at the time, 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: and especially in Jamaica over Instagram, people wanted to know 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: a little bit about you know, me and Liz and 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: how we hope you know, at the time, and we said, 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: we're not you know, like start a YouTube channel, know 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: like we're who, We're not doing anything, and so we started, 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: you know, our first video was just us trying to 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: start the channel. It was like five minutes. I was 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: trying to say, hey, this is very good and this 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: is Liz and we're about to start our YouTube channel. 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: That was it. 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: And you know, so we started, didn't expect much and 42 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: just the response people was crazy. Like the first five 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: days we got like I think the first day so 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: we got like fifteen thousand subscribers. 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. I guess we were all at home 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: like what. 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like let's see, let's see what they're up to. 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: And so he just grew from there, and yeah, it 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: got better over time, and you know, the pressure come 50 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: with it as well too, but you know we find 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: out way each time too. 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: You know. 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting because people also feel like they grew up 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, my board up who he's actually Jamaican. 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: He was in here earlier and I was like, oh, 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: Romaine Virgo's coming today, and he was like, oh, he's yeah, 57 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: he's a lot older. I was like, he's not. He's 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: so young. But people have known you since you were 59 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: a teenager, and so they have this perception that you've 60 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: been like you know, I mean you have been in 61 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: this business almost twenty years. 62 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long time. 63 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: I mean you know that that's what happened when you're 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: like enter at a young age sixteen, I used to 65 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: do I think altogether sing sing from my high school 66 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 3: quiet and and so from that time, jam maker kind 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: of you find this love and this I just said 68 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: that it's like they're raising you up, you know, like 69 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: it's you know, John make happened as their son, you know, 70 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: from that time and then rising stars and you know, 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, to know, you know, so it's been. 72 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: Years and it's good. 73 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: Sometimes I go in the street and people say, hey, 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: I've been watching it for I was a baby. 75 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm like you, you're talking about like twenty years old. 76 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I understand, you know, starting out young and 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: and and and to keep that over the years, over 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: the years is not really easy. But you know, I 79 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: guess it's that love, you know, when when they watch 80 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: it from that age and you you know, I guess 81 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: you continue to you know, be who you are and 82 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: and and stay true to what you do for them 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: in their eyes, it's I think, I guess it's something 84 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: great and I'm grateful. 85 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: To still be here. 86 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: And the new project came out of a couple of 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: months ago. The gentlemen and people listen to your music 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: and it is definitely like this song, I could play 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: this at my wedding or you know, it's nice because 90 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: now we get to see, for the past couple of 91 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: years what life is really like, you know, for you 92 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: at home. Do you feel like people having that access 93 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: to you also helped to be able to open up 94 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: even more in your music, And. 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel so, you know, because you can't be 96 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: anything outside of real with people, especially on YouTube. It's 97 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: your life now, you know. Even though we don't get 98 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: to show people everything about our life, but the lists 99 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: that we show you have to be true to people, 100 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: and that is something I try to uphold as much 101 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: as possible. I don't want to be anything on the 102 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: internet and then when people see me in real life 103 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: or you know, it would be something else, you know. 104 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: And same thing for the music. 105 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: Whatever I preach in the music, I try to live 106 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: that life as best as possible. And so yeah, I 107 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: would say that side of it helped, you know, to 108 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: open so much more in terms of the music. You know, 109 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: just just let it all out, you know. You know, 110 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: back in the days, I would hold back from saying 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: certain things are you know, just you know, telling people that, 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: hey I I go through this, you know, no ideas, 113 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: I'm I'm you know, just willing to open up more 114 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: so people get to see and because I feel like 115 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: people build when people can feel and when they can 116 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: see a story from the reader's point, I feel like 117 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: the connection is even stronger. 118 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Even start en off the album with the song like 119 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: been there Before and you talk about how the darkest 120 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: part of night is just before daylight, and so you know, 121 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: people may not know what life was like before for you, 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: even when you were first trying to make. 123 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: It because I mean a lot of people probably don 124 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: remember Romain and Virgo entering a competition, winning a. 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: Million, get a young teenager, and and then that's it. 126 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: But there's so much more to my life, you know. 127 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: And and even in that on that record, I was 128 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: trying to go deep, you know, Nikos on who I said, Hey, like, 129 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: maybe you know it's too personal, and a lot of 130 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: people won't be able to connect to your story because 131 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: that is so personal, you know. So you know, we 132 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: tried our best to to you know, kind of keep 133 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: it at a level where everybody else can feel like. 134 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: What I've been through this too, you know. 135 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: And and and so the life you know, people will 136 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: never understand, you know, especially as artists. You know, we 137 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: we some the industry sometimes allow us to feel like 138 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: we have to show this side of us and we 139 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: have to be so especially as men, make it feel 140 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 3: like you have to be tougher. You can't talk about 141 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: the story because they're going to say yourself. And and 142 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: so you know, I mean, over time, getting to you know, 143 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: tapping to myself and realizing that the more you you 144 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: open up is the more you're helping somebody out there to, 145 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: you know, just be true and be really with themselves. 146 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: I I'm just grateful for this point that I'm at 147 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: in my life where I can't talk about anything, my family, 148 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: my past, you know, everything, and and talk about it 149 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: from the realist point and still getting love from people. 150 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: What was life like before that? Before people think, oh, 151 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: he won this competition and got this money and he's 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: been on ever since. 153 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I I was poor, and I didn't know that. 154 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: I was like, grow poor. I didn't know. 155 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: That's so true. When you don't have it and you're 156 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: growing up, you're just used to it, so you just 157 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: think that's what life is. 158 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then because I had it better than a 159 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: lot of people who I grew up with two so 160 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: then you make it even worse. Like, yo, you're you're 161 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: you're good. You know That's how I felt back then. 162 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: But then as a girl older, I realized that, Wow, 163 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: it was like four of us sleeping in one bed 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: at one point, you know, three of us sleeping in 165 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: one bit at one point. And and you know, even 166 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: the school that you know I used to like, I 167 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: didn't have the privilege to say no, I don't want 168 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: to go to that school. 169 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: I wanted, you know, so. 170 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: You get to realize that growing up was was rough, 171 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: you know, because that struct that a family struct at 172 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: a community, you know, just there's people around who used 173 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: to just make. 174 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: The most sort. 175 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: Of the little you know, you get to you grew 176 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: up with that same mindset like whoa, so this is 177 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: all life is supposed to be, Like no matter what 178 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: you have, he does live and does laugh and and 179 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: love just to see him and don't let you know 180 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: the little that you have now, you know, distract you 181 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: or make you feel like, hey, I'm not worth it, 182 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: you know. And so it was tough. You know, grew 183 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: up in a house where as I said, you know, 184 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 3: like five of us step in one little room and 185 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: you know, there was no fancy battle. It was just 186 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: if you're from the if you're from the Caribbean, you know, 187 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: the outside toilet, our outside, like you would call it. 188 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: It was that kind of lifestyle. You know, your kitchen 189 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: is outside. I used to bed in the front of 190 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: my house and like that, naked out there singing everybody 191 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: I can see you. 192 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: But everybody also was in the same situation too. Ye 193 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: around for the. 194 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: Leadies, they used to set up a little thing where 195 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: they put some bags around some posts and so they 196 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: could go inside that to. 197 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: Have some privacy. But for men, we were just it 198 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: just outside. 199 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: We're just outside. It's that kind of lifestylee. But you 200 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: know we didn't know. You're just living. Yeah. 201 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: And you know it's interesting because you know, sometimes you'll 202 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: see somebody you'll be like, man, I feel bad, but 203 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: sometimes people who look like they don't have a lot 204 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: could be really happy too. Yes, And people who have 205 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot aren't necessarily happy, true because and. 206 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: I've learned that too. 207 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: You know, the more you achieve is the more you 208 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: have to to maintain that kind of life. You know, 209 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: and and know how to balance life and and and 210 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: you know, because you know people are seeing you as successful. No, 211 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: and you know sometimes people don't even know that you 212 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: know some of the things you're probably going through. So 213 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: I I you know, like first and kind of experience 214 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: that nowhere. I have to be careful of how I spend, 215 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: how I do everything in life, because you know, it 216 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 3: gets harder, you know, you know, and people might see 217 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: me sometimes on the road I'm smiling, but I'm going 218 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: through so much now because I know that there's so 219 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: much more to live up to the more that I achieved, 220 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: the more that I grewel and yeah, so I just 221 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: it's just trying to keep it able. 222 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of time with more responsibilities come 223 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: with that, and the more you make, the more you 224 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: end up spending. Of course, you know, I saw on 225 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: the blog you guys had bought a new house. Yeah, 226 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: that was a couple of years ago. 227 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: That was in the middle of pandemic. 228 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: The pandemic, you know, like over the years, we've been 229 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: looking wanted to move from where we were living, you know, 230 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: because you know, you're planning your family now, and you know, 231 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: the girls came in twenty nineteen, and so around the time, 232 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: I was like, well, we need to really actually move 233 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: into a space where you know, they can have their 234 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: own room, right, you know the time I was we 235 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: bought an apartment in twenty sixteen, and so we were 236 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: living there up until that time. You know, so with 237 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: a bigger family, and now we're saying we need somewhere, right. 238 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Plus you probably were home because you couldn't really travel 239 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: it's the pandemic. Now you have time to look for 240 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: a house too. 241 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: We were looking and there were a lot of options 242 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: coming up, you know, most of them not quite what 243 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: you're looking for, and sometimes, you know, based on what 244 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: you have to spend too, you might end up, you know, 245 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: go for something that you're not really comfortable like that, 246 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: you know. 247 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: So it was just alter a lot. 248 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: We find the perfect place, you know, somewhere that we 249 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: had to you know, put some work into. 250 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: You know, and that's great for the blog, yeah, exactly. 251 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: So you know, and so it was it was so good. 252 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: You know, it was like the first this was no 253 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: like my biggest you know, our biggest investment as a 254 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: family now and and so you know, it was it 255 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: was good. You know, like as I say, it's the 256 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: community somewhere that you know, I can live for the 257 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: rest of my life if it. 258 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: Needs to be. 259 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: So you're very practical. I like that. That's how I 260 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: am too. I'm like, Okay, if things don't if something 261 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: doesn't happen, this does at least I have a place 262 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: to list this is I really do think like that, 263 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: and I try not to do too much so that 264 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm not like living beyond just in case. You know, 265 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: some people might be like, go for it when it 266 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: comes to you and list who do you think is 267 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: more extravagant when it comes to spending. 268 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: Wow, I feel like what. 269 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: I was going to help each other too, you know, 270 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm more privataristic. I will say, yo, let's go for this, 271 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: and she's like, you know, like I could think about 272 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: it first, you know. And there are times when she 273 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: will say you know, and I'm like, so I feel like, yeah, 274 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: it's a good balance between us, and we try to 275 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: just you know, keep it that way. And so far 276 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: it's it's, you know, just all inputing everything that we do, 277 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: every move that we make, like just you know, stop 278 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: for a while and let's think and see if this 279 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: is the right move to make. You know, we've been 280 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: balancing that so far. 281 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the song Good Woman for a second. Yeah, 282 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: and just even your whole process of writing that song 283 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: and being able to play that song at home, what 284 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: that experience was like, because that feels extremely personal. 285 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 286 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: It was one morning I was writing a song, trying 287 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: to write on that same rhythm, that same Good Woman rhythm, 288 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: and I was up about four am trying to find 289 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: melodies and lyrics, and she got ready for work and 290 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: when she came out, she was like, whoa, you're still up. 291 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying, yeah, I'm try to find it. I'm close, 292 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: but I'm not finding it. And she said, you want 293 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: some purge? 294 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 295 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: I mean like I was there thinking in my like, whoa, 296 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: you are kind of lead forward. 297 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: No, I am up. 298 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 3: And your first thing before you leave out is trying 299 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: to make sure that I'm okay before you, you know, 300 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: you leave out. And I said to myself in my head, 301 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: I was saying, elist like, you're You're such a good woman. 302 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: And you know, I was writing about some some It 303 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: was a song that was close to people business with 304 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: me and Christopher Martin. It was close to that kind 305 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: of topic and I'm something does hit me right there 306 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: and said, why am I writing about this? Let's write 307 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: about what is happening right now. This good woman decided 308 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: to make your courage. Let's write about her. And that 309 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: was the idea behind it. She kissed me first thing 310 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: in the morning. Then she said, baby, I have a 311 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: good day. You know, she know year from me and 312 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: you know, just writing about. 313 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: What you know. 314 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: So I guess A ball of perriage was the inspiration. 315 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: And when she heard it for the first time, what 316 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: did she say? 317 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: She loved it, you know, because she she she normally 318 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: likes when I you know, tap into something like a 319 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: different group, something outside of the regular things that I've 320 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: been doing. So the energy of the song, the vibe 321 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: of the song, you know, and she's a big judge 322 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: of my music. 323 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: You know. Sometimes I'm free to play demos for her. 324 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: That's good, now you need that. But there's somebody that's like, amazing, 325 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 326 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, sometimes myself and Nico said no, no, 327 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: don't play for her. Sweet let's put harmony, let's mix 328 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: the song and even mastered before you know, we allowed 329 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: it here. But you know, she loved it, you know 330 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: since since the demo stiages and you know, so we 331 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: knew that she would love it. After we mix and 332 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: master the song, Yeah, she's happy. 333 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: How hard is it for you when it's time for 334 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: like getting on the road, you know, so you went 335 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: to Grenada earlier this year, You're going to be doing 336 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: a UK tour, US tour, all of those things, and 337 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: then you know, having to travel no one that you 338 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: get the girl els at home, I know. The pandemic 339 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: was probably the part of being able to be home. 340 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Was really nice to grow up and be with like 341 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: the girls of growing up right there with you, so 342 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: you didn't have to travel too much. But now back 343 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: at it. 344 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: I mean, like last last year, like I think it 345 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: was when we were in New York again November October 346 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: and somebody asked me the same question backstage, this very 347 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: question and asking me now, and I broke down because 348 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: you know, it's one of the hardest things to do 349 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: is to travel, you know, sometimes knowing that the pressure 350 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: that will be on Liz. And so even though we 351 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: have a Nannia our own who will help out, is like, 352 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: we know that our presents is much needed at home, 353 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: you know, especially with our girls, and you know those 354 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: as parents who are trying to get them on a 355 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: certain level, you know, the pandemic kind of I don't 356 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: know it did something like you know, so in terms 357 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: of the girls and their milestones, you know, we didn't 358 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: feel comfortable with where they were, you know, when they 359 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: got to two years old because. 360 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: They're not socializing would have been exactly and so as 361 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: a parent, as a father, as a mother, you know, working, 362 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: you know the pressure and how that would make you 363 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: feel and not seeing them at the level that you 364 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: want them. 365 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: So it's it's like that for me know every time 366 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: I travel, like well, just trying to make sure that 367 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: everything is good at home, and when I'm here, I'll 368 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: be calling checking in, you know. You know, Lizander, we 369 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: keep ourselves. We call it like motivated by those like 370 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: small steps, like we learned that this happened today. She'll 371 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: share a video with a message and like literally that 372 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: happened today, And I got a message from her and 373 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: she was saying that I don't remember exactly. 374 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: What one of them did. 375 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: And so, you know, like a big celebration for us 376 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 3: each time something like that happened, you know. But you 377 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: know it's just all I wanting the best for them 378 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: and for the family and for how we grow even 379 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: mentally too, because you know that can affect everything that 380 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: we do. I'm here on the road and I want 381 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: to go in stad and do well, but you know, 382 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: knowing that something at home is probably not going as 383 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: good as we would want that it affects me as well, 384 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: you know. So it's just trying to keep a balance, 385 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: you know, As I say, every time there is a 386 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: there's a win, we'd call it. You know, it's a 387 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: big thing for me. Like she came with a good 388 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: feedback from any session that they might have. Knows, like, 389 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: I'm celebrating that I have the greatest show, you know, 390 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: but I feel like it's a part of our story, right, 391 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: That's a part of my story as an artist. And 392 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: you know, there's so much I probably can share with 393 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: people who go through what we go through as parents, 394 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: and you know, yeah, every time I look at this, like, yo, 395 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: this is my story and this is what I I 396 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: would I can share and help others with out there 397 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: in the world as time go by. 398 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: You know. 399 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: But you know, those girls whenever you know, you see them, 400 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: and because they're always happy, that's the greatest things, you 401 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: know that they're always happy always, you know, running up 402 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: and sometimes they just look at you and smile or laugh. 403 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: What are you asking about? And that would just make 404 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: it you know. 405 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: So it's it's like a bitter sweet but you know, sweeter, 406 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 3: even sweeter when they're happy. 407 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I think that in the society 408 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: where it's been really popularized to be a womanizer, and 409 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: you have been the opposite of that, you know, And 410 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: that is why the music can be refreshing because sometimes 411 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: like we all lot to sing along to those songs too, 412 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: and dance with them and have a good time. But 413 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: then it's just nice to feel like, Okay, this is 414 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: something that warms your heart to feel like this is 415 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of what you would want. 416 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: I grew up in a family where, you know, the 417 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: father figured that I would want to be a own 418 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: wasn't there, And so my goal was always to be 419 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm trying to be. Know, I'm not 420 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: talking as if I'm perfect. I'm doing it perfectly, you 421 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: know what. It's always been a goal to, you know, 422 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: be this kind of man, you know. 423 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Because that could go out of the way somebody sees, 424 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, this is how they grew up, so this 425 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: is what they think is normal. But then you made 426 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: a conscious decision like I don't want to. 427 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: Be I never ever want that, you know. 428 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: I never want my kids to be growing up, you know, 429 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: not being our own, you know, both mother and father. 430 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: You know, I just always wanted to. 431 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: Create that that's peace for them to feel see if 432 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: they can come and share anything that they're going through 433 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: in life. And you know, so I'm just see myself 434 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: in that light and I try my best. You know, 435 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: I learned from by just watching people, see how other 436 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: people live. 437 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: You know I have. 438 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: I grew up knowing a stepfather who was like such 439 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 3: a real man, you know, he was he couldn't help 440 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: himself but just be true and be the best. Especially 441 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: see how he treats my mother like that. That that 442 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: warms my heart so much sometimes, like he's just the 443 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: coolest person on the face of this. 444 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: Well, God blesses. So they passed away last June. Yes, 445 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: so that was a sad time for us. 446 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: But he was one that I look at and say, hey, 447 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: I want to be like this man. 448 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: Where was your biological valor? 449 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: He's He's alive, you know, and I know him. We 450 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: talk a lot too nowadays, you know, but he, you know, like. 451 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: Him and my mom. 452 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: It was I just hope things going to Jamaica. You know, 453 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: as men, we have a wife here, are a woman here, 454 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: the next woman. 455 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's unusual for you culturally. You 456 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: know that you've been able to do this and promote 457 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: this and be like, you know, happy in that situation. 458 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: I think that's a positive thing. 459 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 3: And just me growing to the point where like I 460 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: don't make the past, you know, like determine how I 461 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: even treat my father. 462 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: Did you ever have a because sometimes people don't even 463 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: have that conversation like you know, you wasn't. 464 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: We have it every time every time we talk, like 465 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: he would, there's I don't know what to call it, 466 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: if it's feeling a bit guilty or him just just 467 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: wanting me to understand why things didn't work the way 468 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: it And I'm like every time, I'm like, you know, 469 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: I do understand. No, you know know that you explain, 470 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: I do understand, and we have to just get pastitive 471 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: because we can't be dwelling on something that we can't 472 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: cheat anymore. You know, it's just how we move out now. 473 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: And I always try to shame that, you know that 474 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 3: that's a life. 475 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: You know. 476 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm trying to not live or be in that situation 477 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: that you were right and you know with us, you know, 478 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: And I feel like he sometimes understand. But then whenever 479 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: I don't hear from me for a long time. 480 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: It's like. 481 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: It's been a while I've heard from you, like you know, 482 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: just one and then he goes back in history again 483 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 3: and like you're. 484 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: Like, look it worked out. I'm successful. I'm happy, I'm 485 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: the man that I want to be. Yeah, So it's 486 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: always some people just don't know better when they're in 487 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: the midst of a situation, you know, And like you said, 488 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: you can't go back and change things. But we have 489 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: to understand our parents are like human beings also with 490 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: a lot of flaws exactly. 491 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: And sometimes it is the thing that we don't look 492 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: at as people like we don't know the things that 493 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: our parents' parents went true why our parents, you know, 494 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: maybe end up in the situation that they were, you know. 495 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: And that is how I look at it, like I'm 496 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: not you want to just jump and say, hey, my 497 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: father didn't you know, I didn't grow up around my father, 498 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna deal with him, you know. I 499 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 3: I I try to understand where everything is kind of 500 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: coming from, how they how it was for him growing up, 501 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: you know, and it's it's similar stories like his father 502 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: was probably wasn't around as he would want his father 503 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: to be, and so you can kind of understand the 504 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: trend coming right down. And so with my generation, I 505 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 3: want to stop that. I want to be the one 506 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: to say, yo, put that, let's put that into this. 507 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: My daughters should at least know the right thing or 508 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: to live by watching me and Liz. 509 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: And they're gonna want to man that cheat them just 510 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: like they're treat them nice and spoiled. 511 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and even if it don't going that way, at 512 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: least they know how it should be by by by 513 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: looking at and seeing how we live. And so you know, 514 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: as I saying, nobody is perfect at the end of 515 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: the day too, but everything that I do, it should 516 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: the direction should be done that bath positive. 517 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: Look, you know. 518 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, do you feel like sometimes you downplay your 519 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: own success Because I saw one of your blogs you 520 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: were acting like people or may not know your songs 521 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: or may not, but then you go on stage and 522 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: it's so much love it. 523 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: It's it's just my approach to life. 524 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes we set up ourselves for disappointment, you know, 525 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: like I might have a few songs playing, but if 526 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: I'm going into a new place, it's it's it's always 527 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: with a level of I don't know what to call it, 528 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: but just almost as if I'm approaching it like nobody 529 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 3: here knows me, but I'm going to give it one 530 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty percent my energy. 531 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: You know. 532 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: It's it's it's you don't take it for granted. 533 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: No, So it's it's it's looking at it from angleware. 534 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: Tell yourself that these people don't know you, and your 535 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: show will be better because if they do know you, 536 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 3: and if they do give you a good response, then 537 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: you know that, yeah, the energy will be better on 538 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: stage and and you'll feel better about your performance after 539 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: because sometimes, you know, you go to places and just 540 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: the energy some people come to and say hey, I 541 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: love you, and then they go on stage with this 542 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 3: confidence that when you don't get that response, that crowd response, 543 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: you're like, whoa, he's disappointed in like what happened? You know, 544 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: that's just me. I just approached. You know, even walking 545 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: in the streets some of the time and people might 546 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: be like, you know, are you Ni and Roman? And 547 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: I'm like no, It's not like that everywhere though, because 548 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: I can. I can be in JOm Make and everybody's 549 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: like whoa. But then I go elsewhere in the world 550 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: and everybody just walk past because it's not the same 551 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: kind of vibe everywhere. I can't go anywhere in the 552 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: Caribbean and people show me the same kind of love 553 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: that you will show me JOm Maker. I'm here in 554 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: New York knowing if it's not people from the Caribbean. 555 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and let me tell you something. The New 556 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: York also, there's so many people everywhere. People mind their business. 557 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: We're taught to not look at nobody, don't talk to anybody, 558 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: you mind your business. It's more of that because sometimes 559 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: like you'll walk past people and then Neil tweet out, 560 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: I just saw such and such on the street, but 561 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: they don't say anything yeah to you. It's just a 562 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: that was me going to the Caribbean when I was 563 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: young and being confused by people being polite and friendly 564 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: and speaking to you. And here it's like, don't look 565 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: at nobody, don't make eye contact, don't talk to strangers, 566 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: and people. 567 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: Would sit you just find out that you were in 568 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: the building. 569 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Just know, yeah, yo, guess who was here. Well, listen, 570 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much every single time, and I 571 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: know you know, for both of us, like working with 572 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: the American Foundation for the University of the West Indies 573 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: is a big deal for me as it is for you. 574 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: I remember the first year because you've been on VP 575 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: records for fourteen years now. 576 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: It's been a long time. It's been a long time 577 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty ten. Wow, so yeah, before years. 578 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: That's amazing. And the first thing ata FUI when I 579 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: was in a meeting and they were we were talking 580 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: about entertainment. This was years ago, and they were like, 581 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, romain Berg would be our first choice 582 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: and we can you know, somehow make that happen. But 583 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, always in support of giving these scholarships to 584 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: students who go to UI and Florists. I say, some 585 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: of the brightest students ever have gone to the University 586 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: of the West Indies. 587 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: It's a blessing. It's a blessing I believe in in education. 588 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: I even my my my foundation, we start to focus 589 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: on on education. You know, I've been doing it ever 590 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: since I won competition in Jamaica. I've been like, you know, 591 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: like going back to my community every opportunity I get 592 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: each year and give back to kids in my community. 593 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: And so whenever there's another opportunity, whether it's abroad or locally, 594 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, to give back, whether you know back like 595 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: giving something that you can hold on to our just 596 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 3: my service, I just go and just perform somewhere that 597 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: people can raise funds to give back, you know, to education. 598 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm on that. 599 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: How are you with your money? When you first won 600 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: the competition at seventeen years old. 601 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: I'm a saver and that's good. Yeah, But I remember 602 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: the first time because it's like it's like literally one 603 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: million and that in the account. And I remember the 604 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: first time going to a machine and putting in the 605 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: card and like I took like ten or fifteen thousand 606 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: Jamaican out of it. And then I see some nines 607 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: before I'm like, WHOA not a millionaire anymore? 608 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Be a little out. 609 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: But I see it a lot. You know, I don't 610 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: I don't spend on things that don't make sense, you know, 611 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: especially you know at that point when I just started out, 612 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: you know, you know, I knew that I needed to 613 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: be under on the move every time because I had 614 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: to travel back from king from Saint Anto Kingston each 615 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: week to record, and so there was this voice in 616 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: my head saying, yo, you need to buy a car. 617 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: You know, at the time, I probably could buy a 618 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: second second hand car and and and you know, to say, hey, 619 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: I have a car. And I remember like going to 620 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: Kingston with my friend in his car for like probably a. 621 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: Year and a half. 622 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 623 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: And then after that it took me like probably two 624 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: years before buying my first car, you know. So I'm 625 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: always you know, if I can't afford it, I'm not 626 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: going to even try. 627 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: I just wait and you. 628 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: Know, okay, yeah he could, but you know, okay, romy Vergol, 629 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much. A gentleman is out right now. 630 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: I always appreciate you, honestly, and if you have a 631 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: chance to catch him live, make sure you go and 632 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: see you definitely are gonna love it and never be disappointed. 633 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: And I always appreciate you too for supporting me as well. 634 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: Of course, of course anytime, you know, thank you well.