WEBVTT - Black History Month with Irv Roland 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.039 What's up, family, I'm to mek A D. Mallory and 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:10.159 it's your boy, my son in general. And we are 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.440 the host of street politicians, the place where the streets 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.160 and politics meet. Let's get into it, into it, let's 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.920 get busy Black History. Why we always get a month? What? 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.480 What the what? What is this month like when we 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.479 go get a Black History Black History year? Especially all 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.479 the ship that we've been through this last year, we 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.680 need our own year. But we are Black History Year, 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.479 and there's a lot of Black history that happens all year. However, 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.000 this is an important month that we do get an 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.600 opportunity to do one thing that I think it's important. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.800 I think if you're a parent who is not teaching 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.280 your children something they don't know about our history during 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:52.040 this month, you're not necessarily even if you're a white 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.440 I'm not to say you're failing. And that's a good 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.959 point exactly. I think I said parents, sent you did? 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.840 You did? But I just wanted to make the clarification 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.160 because people would think if you're a black parrent, no 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:08.360 during Black Black History Month. I think all ethnicities, all 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:13.120 races need to educate your children about Black history. And 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.240 while we love Dr King, and we certainly don't want 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.800 to educate people on Dr King. Malcolm X. We love 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.160 Malcolm X. We want to educate people about rosa parte. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:28.360 We love Rosamart. But there are other leaders and other 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:36.840 figures within our culture that also need to be acknowledged, acknowledged, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.480 but also there needs to be some deliberation, if you will, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.480 about those individuals. So for instance, if I was a 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.720 you know, a younger parent, my son he knows, I 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.920 don't know if he tells people that he knows, but 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.200 he knows, I would teach my kids about Nat Turner. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.120 Right now, that's something that a lot of people. Oh 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.000 Nat Turner. You know, he was the leader of a 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.920 rebellion and they actually did kill some of the slave masters, 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.480 if you will, But you know what, I don't mean 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.680 to interrupt you, but for me, right, we celebrate all 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:20.720 types of generals and soldiers who have killed millions of people, 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.800 hundreds of people like you thinking about they've killed thousands 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.880 of millions if you think, well, so when we celebrate 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:32.560 a person who fought against injustice, who was being held 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.560 against his will, his life and everything, and wrote and 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.919 chose to rebel against instructure and people who were actually 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.600 killing slaves. They were killing slaves, they're being they were 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:48.200 harmon enslaved people. Okay, well they were killing enslaved people, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.000 and he fought in rows up against that. I don't 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.200 understand why that's so controversial. People don't want you don't 0:02:54.200 --> 0:03:00.919 have that conversation unless there is an intent to cover 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.200 that up because they don't want you to have that 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.160 safe ideology again because they plan to enforce their type. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.480 I think that one, I think one of the issues 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.760 for us because I'm just for now, let's just focused 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.360 on why black folks might not do it. It's a 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.080 lot of things. You know, we still carry a lot 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:24.480 of the behavioral patterns from the plantation. On the plantation, 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.760 you could talk about God, you could talk about some 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:34.200 you know, peaceful loving individual and and pray to and 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.040 about that type of person. But you were not able 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:42.880 to have conversations about revolution, rebellion, fighting back, or any 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.600 of that unless use the field need even the field 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.440 even if no one you weren't allowed. I'm not saying 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.320 that it didn't happen. I'm saying you weren't allowed. And 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:57.000 so oftentimes you're we get a little nervous about even 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.320 having those conversations on say, our jobs, because if someone 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.840 comes up to or goes up to different people and 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.680 you know, in the corporate space and other spaces and says, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.119 you know what, what's happening to us isn't right. Even 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.480 if you're working at a fool a fast food chain, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.080 you say, well, what's happening here isn't right. We need 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.080 to either establish a union, or we should write a letter, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.440 or we should do this. You have people say, don't 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.920 say that around massive, like don't let Massive find out 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.560 that that's what we're talking about, because we've been taught 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.120 that we're not allowed to have certain types of conversations 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.520 or else there will be consequences. But for me, black 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.599 people need to stop being so damn scared man, Like, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.200 at the end of the day, you know we've overcome 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.040 so much. And when you know something doesn't feel right 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.719 to your core, if something doesn't coexist with your moral 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.440 fiber and you're scared to say something about it, Are 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.479 you're scared to stand up? Like all you actually living? 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.880 Are you actually no? But and and and that's for me, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.240 like that's a problem. We do exist and mainly existing 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.240 because for me, like at some point we have to 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.640 be able to man up, woman up, whatever it takes 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.520 up to say, Yo, this ain't right, and I can 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.440 say it is ain't right, or this is right and 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.800 I agree with this and be able to stand in 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.240 that truth, to stand on what you stand on, Like 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.320 why are we so scared to stand on we stand 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.200 a week? We have pretty much literally built this country, 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.240 especially in this moment. We have seen the power of 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.479 black people. We've seen our vote, We've seen our our tenacity, 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.360 We've seen our resilience. We have done been through everything 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.760 that the worst had to offer, and we have succeeded 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.920 and we have survived and we have persevered. It's no 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.919 more time to be scared. Like I hate hearing people. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.560 Well you can't why you can't say that, say you 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.120 don't want to say that. If you say you don't 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.960 want to say some ship or you don't agree with that, cool, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.159 But don't tell me what you can't say as a 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.400 grown adult man or grown adult woman, don't give me that. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.120 I agree and and not. And so I think to 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.280 your point that we have to be willing to teach 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:06.160 our children about all the many diverse facets if you will, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.680 of the movement and people who came before us. So 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.000 that's one thing, but I also think we have to 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.560 correct history. If you're going to teach your children about 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.200 Rosa Parks, you also have to talk to them about 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.240 Claudette Covid. They have to know that there was a 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.800 woman who came before Rosa Parks that did some of 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.120 the very similar things. She said at the front and 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:34.640 said I will not move. However, as that was happening, um, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.880 you know, there was a decision made by the movement 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.279 that she wasn't the right person for everyone to get behind. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.960 I mean, this is real, This is an actual decision 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:50.440 made because there is strategy to these movements, and it's 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.360 unfortunate that that's how it has to be. But there 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:58.360 are moments when you have situations struggles that were involved 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:02.120 in and you already know that trying to fight for 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:07.320 a three time convicted murderer who was killed by the police, 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.040 and you know something, it's gonna be difficult not saying 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.040 that we should and we should absolutely if it if 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.920 it's if it's injustice, it's injustice no matter who it is. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.720 But you know that as a strategist, it is going 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:24.040 to be more difficult to win over the people's attention 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.520 and pull the heartstrings during certain things that Cordet Covin 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.240 wasn't a convicted murderer, but you get my point that 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.440 there was a decision made that Rosa Parks. She looked different. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.720 I would imagine she was a little she was lighter. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.120 At that time, there was the paperbag theory that you know, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.640 if you were darker than a paper bag, you weren't 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.480 necessarily considered to be in proximity to whiteness. Is what 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.120 you've been talking about. You know, she had her hair, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:54.000 looked different, she had certain attributes, and she was a person. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.680 She worked for the n double a CP, she was 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.680 in the movement, and so they chose her to be 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.760 the face of the Montgomery Bus boycott um and so 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.400 there should be And that's okay, it's okay if that, 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.800 I mean, it's okay to strategize. I'm not I'm not 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.160 taking away strategy, right, but there needs to be during 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.440 this month if we're gonna if we're gonna have the 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.920 shortest because the thing is, the key is to get 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.280 It's like this, right, It's like telling people, wait, we 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.480 just let us get in the door. Right. We got 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.080 the best chance to get in the door because I 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.280 understand that. Understand there's a strategy as certain people that 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.440 people accept. More like if you accept if I'm trying 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.200 to get behind that door, and I'm like you, they 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.520 know me there, I can just let me get in 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.880 and I'm gonna bring you in because people told us 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.880 WI fight for Brianna Taylor because she clearly was associated 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.640 with someone who was you know, was dealing drugs or 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.480 was was associated with drug dealing. Right, we can't go 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.720 convicting the man without knowing. But here's the deal. We 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.600 love running towards fires. That's what it is. And I 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.160 think that's I think that's what our people have to do. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:05.520 And that's why when you look at don't worry, but 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.720 I don't know. I forgot. I forgot too. But you know, 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.240 when we look at Briana Taylor and we look at 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.600 our decision to say, you know what, this is who 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.040 we're gonna stand behind because we know it's wrong. Our 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.680 hearts says it's wrong. We know right from wrong, and 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.800 we're willing to stand behind that. And the fact that 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:32.520 we had that fortuited tidness to continue on and understand 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.719 the people who are already on the ground who were 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.040 doing it, and we wanted to uplift their voices. The 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.200 fact that all of us came together and say this 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.840 is something that we personally believe that whether you believe 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.559 it or not, we're willing to stand, die, lose our freedom, life, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.440 whatever it takes so that this this woman gets justice. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.600 You know, it made the world pay attention, and and 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.640 that's a lesson. It's a lesson in that. Listen, do 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.480 not allow anybody to ski you out of your conviction. 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.000 Do not allow anybody to tell you. Don't let nobody 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.280 tell you that what you believe, what you believe in 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.240 is not strong enough to fight for because they don't 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.920 see it. Your your will. The mind is so powerful man, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.160 when you will things that exist, and when you believe 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.640 something so hard, it becomes true. So do not allow 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.560 black especially black people. We have shown that, we have proven. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:36.959 I believe millions of dollars millions. I'm gonna have billions, billions, billion. Listen, 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.319 I already know I'm I'm a billionaire already. That's that's 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.600 shame about. Now I'm a billionaire, I'm a multi billionaire. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.319 You're looking at a billionaire and making someone's gonna change 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.080 the trajectory of this country and do it with honor 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.040 and be a billionaire and give most of that money 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.640 to my people so they could continue to have intergenerational wealth. 0:10:54.679 --> 0:11:03.000 That's who I am. Who what's his name, Bernie Sanders. Yeah, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.960 that's what it says there should be no billionaires. But 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.720 that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna be a billionaire and 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.520 didn't give it to my people. So ultimately, if you 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.320 make a billion dollars, you've hurt a lot of people 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.560 along the way. Well, listen, everybody, you don't. I don't 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.320 agree with nobody on everything. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:26.280 maybe that was good you you got to I don't 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.040 because I believe that. I believe in the theory that 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:31.560 some people got to go out and get it and 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.680 bring it back home. You know. See, I'm saying the 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.720 bottom line is everybody does not have the wherewithal, the talent, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.880 the skill, that everything that is going to take to 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:44.160 accumulate massive amount of money. That's not everybody's for ta. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:50.120 So it's like, well, um, Mason told you, oh right, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:55.559 so so our my mentee, I become your mentee. Mary 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.360 Patt she's but she's been on the show before. She 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.960 runs the Until Freedom Division in Georgia and she's an 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.199 incredible leader. She's been at it since she was eleven. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.760 She's now graduated from Trailman. She's us a law student, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:17.080 so she's obviously much older. And her brother, Mason is 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.280 he owns he's only like twelve years old, and he 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.880 owns a hot dog business. He actually has a facility, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.760 so it's not like he's selling hot dogs out of 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:31.000 his house. He literally has a restaurant where he sells 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.319 hot dogs and he has all different types of products 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.520 and services around food and once a second location. And 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.640 mother Cathy was mentioning to be the other day that 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.640 he's looking for a second location. And Mason thing, which 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.920 is your point, was that you know what, I've watched 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.439 my sister. She's out here fighting a good fight. I 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.520 love that. I'm happy and I'm and I'm a part 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.520 of the movement too. I'm I'm I'm centered in that word. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.000 But I need to make some money so that my 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.240 sister is not struggling. And it's so so real, it's 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.360 so real that he was able his level of discernment 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.400 at his young age. He's been this is now since 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.400 he's been about ten nine or ten years old that 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.520 he's been thinking of ways to make money to support 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.280 his system. His discernment is so clear that there was 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.240 a point between her graduating from Spellman, getting in law 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.280 school and trying to find jobs because she is one 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.160 over qualified and she's worked within the movement. And sometimes 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.319 when people don't realize the challenges of when you work 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.920 for someone who was high profile in the movement, you 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.640 may not always be able one to get another job 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.040 in the movement, but beyond that, to go out and 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.199 work for a corporation or some other entity, because there's 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.839 a lot of baggage that goes along with the sacrifices. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.600 And so she needed a job and she was able 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.280 to work with Mason on college campuses. She went out 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.560 with him the more House. They sold hot throgs once 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.320 a week or every few days there. And now she 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.240 supports him in his business, but she's willing to work. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.480 That's right, And that's my point exactly. Like you know, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.480 we understand there's so many this entry points into this movement. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:12.400 Especially Black people need everything. We need everything. So this 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.760 is Black History money. If anything I want to tell 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.319 you in Black History Month is no time to be divided. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.720 There's no time to say that your methodology or your 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.560 strategy is better than somebody else's and exile that because 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.720 we need every everybody. If we're all trying to get 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.920 to the same place, in the same destination, then it 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.800 doesn't matter how you get there. We all need to 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.240 be working together. You know, I hear so many different 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.880 dialogues and I've I've actually been a part of them 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.600 where people are arguing me about strategy and why are 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.760 you doing this? And why aren't you doing that? And 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.400 I just say to them, like, why don't you do 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.160 what I'm not doing? Because I can't do everything. I 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.160 never told you I could do everything. I'm I'm capable 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.240 to do. Of doing what I do, I don't believe 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.200 that I think it is cancer is to tell people 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.240 not to vote, because that, for me is very problematic, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:04.880 and I know I need to problem I just think 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.760 that you know what it is for me, I think 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.560 it is, but you know what you know? What I 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.440 say is this, if you can come up with a 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.560 strategy or ideology in which not voting and makes sense 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.760 to you, and you're doing something behind not voting, and 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.800 that whatever you're doing as a result of not voting 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.880 is pushing us forward. Then that's something that you have 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.520 to do as a person. That's what you have to 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:32.040 do as an individual. I cannot make you believe in 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.040 what I believe in me. I believe that it makes 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.040 no sense to be a part of a system where 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.960 you don't have any say so over the people actually 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.840 running system. You're gonna pay all the bills, You're gonna 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.880 pay your taxes, You're gonna follow every law and every rule, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.640 every legislation is that's put into order, you have to 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.640 follow on. Unless you've decided that you're gonna rogue outside 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.960 the government, then it makes sense. Don't vote because I'm 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.360 not participating nothing the government has And that makes sense 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.600 to me. But if you're going to participate and be 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.360 a Sitton of America, of the United States, and you 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.600 don't have any say over the people who govern the state, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.720 how does that make sense to you? Well? And but 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.520 but so you said I, and you said if you, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.080 because I don't believe and if you, and if you, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.280 and if I and the view which is I get 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.840 your point, but at the heart of that is individualism. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:28.360 That person, you're not just voting for yourself. When you 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:33.080 choose to uh, not to participate in this system, you're 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.440 leaving Ray, Ray and Kesha and those people who come 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.120 from our communities behind. Because those that live in public housing, 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.760 they need to ensure that there are people in office 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.320 who want to actually help them in public housing that 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.520 don't want holes and rats and heat or no heat 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.080 cold in the winter and hot in the summer, because 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:59.480 that's what happens in public housing. Those people they need 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.600 public how hospitals. Now, maybe you have doctors that work, 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.760 you know, that's your family members that got trail, is 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.320 somewhere that you can go to and get fixed up, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.800 But most people need the public hospital. The public hospital 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:18.160 is controlled by the local politics. So perhaps you can say, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.560 I don't vote for president, right, I don't I don't 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.159 believe in any of these presidents. I don't want to 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.359 participate in that. I don't remember with that either, Because 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:27.919 if you don't show up to the polls at the 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.800 time when there is a presidential race, there are many 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.159 other seats down the ballot, right, there are other people 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.639 running for other offices that you need to be there 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.960 to ensure that your voice is counted. And while you're there, 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.720 you might as well make sure you try to pick 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.879 the right president for the time as well. So I 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.399 totally don't agree with any period. But if that's what 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.480 you say, fine, you definitely should not. And that's the 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.119 problem with how we raise up our young people, because 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.920 when we start saying I don't vote, I don't believe 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:05.000 in the system, what happens is that young people say, okay, well, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.800 we don't have to do it. They turn it off, 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.840 and it's difficult to turn them back on when it 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.520 comes to the local d A, who might arrest them, okay, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.400 and depending on what that DA believes their ideologies, you 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.880 can have hell on your hands if you don't have 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.920 the right type of person in office. When it comes 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.440 to city council members that have to do with streets 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.080 and you know what the street lights and things that's 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.560 going on in your local community, state senators and otherwise, 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.600 it's difficult to turn people off and on. So I 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.480 think it's cancers for us to say don't vote because 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.920 most of our people I'm not talking about the few 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.600 that are living outside the system. They got their own 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.200 money that you know all of that. Most people are 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.320 trapped in the system and they need to be able 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.480 to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.000 we're gonna vote, We're gonna ensure we put these people 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.280 in office and that we can hold them accountable and 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.760 build systems that are out side of what we know 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:06.040 as America and the American government. It's my opinion. Well, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.879 there you have it. Hopefully you've changed their minds of 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.600 some of the people who say they're not gonna go 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:15.480 talking about thinking. I was thinking, because you know, every 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:20.320 uh time we sit down for street politicians, I always think, 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.680 and there's a lot to think about it. And our 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:27.920 guest today made me think about this um and that 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:34.359 is what happened to Kanye. Like I know, everybody thinking, 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.640 you just that's the left field. But it's true though, 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:44.640 because we're talking about black history more used to history. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:50.200 Because Kim Kardashian, who you know, I could take girly, 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.000 you know what I'm saying. She cool some days, I 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.479 think Kim's doing something. She looks cute at times. I 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.199 loved her kids, and you know the whole thing, and 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.520 I actually appreciate the story of their family and the 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.840 way that their mother really is a boss chick that is, 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.440 you know, making it, making it happen for all of them. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.280 So sometimes I like them, but I also see a 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.679 lot of cultural appropriation. UM and you know, I'm not 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:21.360 always excited about the Kardashians, but Kim has really been 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:26.240 involved and engaged with cultural appropriation. For me, that they 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.680 stole ship from black people, maybe stealing ship from black people, 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:35.000 steal some ship. Cultural appropriation, especially for the Kardashians, would 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.320 be to see her in what corn rows and then 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:43.440 for her to not quickly let it be known that 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:47.280 this I didn't make this. Because people started blogs and 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.399 UM and other media entities started saying that, oh, you know, 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.160 look at Kim, she created corn rolls or she's making 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.960 corn rolls cool, and she was not quick enough. I 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.320 don't even know if I ever saw a response from 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.760 her to say, no, I didn't create this. I took 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.040 this look from black folks. I was influenced by black women. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.679 And you know, tell the story. Use your platform to 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.800 tell the story about how our corn rolls were actually 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.439 used to stuff food, rice and other things inside of 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:21.359 our hair when we were enslaved. Okay, just you and 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.159 I believe this, You should use your platform to do that. Well, no, 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.520 you know whatever, let's put that to the side. One 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:30.439 thing she is doing, it's being very engaged in trying 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.040 to get pardons for people who she feels has been 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.919 locked up for too long for crimes, small crimes, or 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.080 just crimes they committed long time ago. UM And she's 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:43.199 really been a champion for a number of individuals. She 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.720 used her influence to go to the White House to 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.040 meet with someone who the rest of us don't get with, 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.719 but she was able to go navigate that space and 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.159 a few people have been pardoned as a result of 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.920 her work, and she's really been engaged. I'm trying. I 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.119 ain't seen Kanye going with her about none of that. 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:01.680 I think you know what it is. I think, first 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.439 of all, it's mental health. It's definitely mental health. And 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.359 I hear that they're working on a divorce at this point, 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.880 it's not I don't I can't confirm nor deny whether 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:11.760 they get intivorce, but that's what I here. But when 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:16.040 you look at Kanye, I think what happened was his 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.600 own cultural appropriation. I think you know what I'm saying. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.960 I think he tried to cope UM appropriate their culture right, 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.000 and he started to believe that he was bigger than 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.520 what it is that he came from. You know, there 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.360 was a point where he had such a message and 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.240 he had such a grip on understanding, and he was 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.440 so common. He was just the underdog. He was the 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.479 college dropout. He represented just the average black man, you know. 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.000 And it was times when he spoke like that, and 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:50.840 I think maybe through mental health, maybe through just success, 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:57.080 you know, and and just losing yourself man, that he 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:02.000 actually just got so discu nected with the culture and 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.639 his own self. And it's so it's so visible because 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.199 sometimes he comes back, he does Sunday Service and you 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:10.960 look okay, maybe, and then he just says and does 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:14.560 So I'm praying for Kanye, ma'am. I'm really hoping that 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.680 whatever he's dealing with that he overcomes, because you realize 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:21.560 we're dealing with mental health and people commit suicide. He 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:26.280 does Sunday service. But they are evangelical Christians who who 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.479 believe in a different type of God, and we we 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:33.200 saw them and with this insurrection that just happened last month, 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:38.240 we saw them singing and praising their God right outside 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.800 of the building prior to them going in to literally 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:47.359 kill and and and capture individuals right so, and I 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.320 don't believe that we will go as far as to 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.520 say that that's Kanye's God, but I know that the 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:56.480 god that made him say George Bush doesn't care about 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.359 black people. Somewhere along the line, he lost touch with 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:07.160 that individual of that that that that spiritual influence. And 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.199 I hope he gets it back because we see what 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:12.720 sister is trying to do. Some people say, well, she's 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.199 cloud chasing. I don't care. She got some people. If 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.480 you can cloud chase, you can actually get something done 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:20.160 while you cloud. There's people that's cloud chasing, they ain't 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.760 getting So if she getting done stuff done like that 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:30.280 and chasing chase away. So that's my thought. That's what 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.919 I was thinking. If I just want to know what 0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.240 happened to my brother, because I felt like the two 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:39.440 of them together doing the type could have been man 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.040 and that and that brings me to what the streets, 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:49.320 the streets are wondering right now, if representation is really 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.520 going to equate to some level of change. We look 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:57.240 at Joe Biden and he's just put Jamie Harrison as 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:03.280 the DNC chair. Black man from South Carolina, a Southern 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:07.840 black man, Kesha Lands Bottoms is the VP of the 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:14.040 check I mean of the Democratic and around they've just been. 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:20.359 There have been some other important, important appointments where black 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.560 people are represented, and a lot of people are saying, yo, well, 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.320 just because we represented, don't mean they're gonna do anything 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.959 that has never equated to change people. Are they wrong 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:32.800 when we look at this cabinet and say that, I 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.840 guess a lot of black representatives. They are black and 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.840 brown representatives. This is a diverse cabin This is something 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.720 that we've never seen. Are they wrong in saying that 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:45.560 nothing's gonna change? Or should we be hopeful? The streets 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.320 want to know, should we be hopeful in thinking that 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.960 this representation is actually going to represent some level change 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.640 for us? You know, I think that hope is the 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.879 foundation of our existence, and I don't think we should 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.000 ever get to a place where we're not hopeful. I 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.800 believe we should have hope every day because the God 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:11.760 I serve I have seen do amazing things, right um, 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.120 And so I believe that this is what they say, 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.640 the same God that got us through the last thing 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:20.639 will take us through this time. And I um, I 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:25.040 believe our hope is so important. I also don't know, 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:29.880 right like everything remains to be seen, whether or not 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.520 having people like Keisha I call it Keisha because I 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:40.760 know her, but Mayor Bottoms, she's actually the mayor of Atlanta, Georgia. UM. 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.200 And also Jamie Harrison, who we raised money for. UM. 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.160 We gave him UM. I know, I did give him 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.760 money during the election cycle. This year. You started giving 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.880 money to people during the election, you know, because I realized, man, 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.400 you know, UM a lot of people that we want 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.879 to represent us. That's one of the things that I 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:01.879 ever knew, Like, you have to raise money for a 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.200 campaign to be able to show that you're a viable candidate. 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.680 So I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna put my coins. 0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:13.480 I can't disrespect people to get an office. But we 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.200 give some We give some money. We give a couple 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.120 of hundreds, and a couple of people got a couple 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.800 of thousands. So we want to act like, you know, 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.160 a couple of people got, you know, and it pays off, 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.320 you know, So this you know, we I think, like 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.000 you said, I'm kind of hopeful, you know, I'm kind 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:32.880 of hopeful. I want to believe that people who have 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.520 fought this loan to get in these positions, who have 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:40.040 understand the struggle that we have daily every day that 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.640 get into the actually get into the room and get 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:48.000 an opportunity to make and dictate change or going to 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.879 you know, to utilize to do something. I want to. 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.640 I want to believe. That's why I say the world hopeful. 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.520 I believe I'm hopeful. But the bottom line is we're 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:03.680 gonna I'm on your ass. Snell think that both Mayor 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:09.200 Bottoms and also Jamie Harrison have been through enough over 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.880 the last few him running. He just ran for office, 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:13.600 and although he lost, I think this is a real 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.800 good position for him now. Um, I think both of 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.280 them have seen enough. And certainly Mayor Bottoms has seen 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.399 a lot and she actually has received some of my 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:28.800 critiques about her leadership and others, and I think that 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.320 they have developed in a way that will hopefully inform 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:37.960 more radical decision making. Because the Democratic Party, now, this 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.840 thing that the Republicans just did has really really messed 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.280 up their part. I mean, I don't see how they 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:48.480 make it out of this, right, but the Democrats are 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:52.600 just this close. It's it's it's really the whole system 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:58.560 is crashing, it's falling apart, and um, and therefore some 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.280 type of leadership is going to be necessary, and it's 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:08.360 gonna take some radical shifting and some real strong changing 0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.880 of the guard and changing of ideas and the ways 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.480 in which we operate in order to get people interested 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.040 again and to get them back to the table. Because 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.120 no one that I know, and I'm not saying that 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.080 most people can't do it, but no one that I 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.680 know ran to the polls in Georgia and door across 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.440 the country because they were excited about the Democratic Party. 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.360 They were excited, they were not even excited. They knew 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.760 there was an imminent threat. They saw the insurrection coming 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.280 before the insurrection, and so in a lot of ways, 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.160 people knew that they had to go out and do 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:43.600 what they had to do. But if they had to 0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.240 make a decision based upon the two party system that 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.000 we have at this time, both parties would we wouldn't 0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:54.320 have people voting, not not many. But we have a guest, Yes, 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.640 we have a guest, somebody who's been on the ground, 0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.080 that's always done doing the work, or always invites us, 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:09.440 that stands with us, even as crazy as politicians. We 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:15.160 really can fill up our shows. My bro. That's that's 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.840 about bro right there, And he balled. You know what, 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.480 he don't look. We bring that's where is the street 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.880 politicians like the streets like you gotta bring the people. 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.200 This is one of those brothers man. You know, he's 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.800 one of the uh NBA train that he trained some 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:34.160 of the best players in the NBA. And he utilizes 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.520 his platform, utilizes influence to speak truth to power, to 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.440 stand on the front lines with us to fight, you know, 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.160 and he's become instantly become a brother of mine, like 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:49.680 really a brother of mine that I stand by any day. 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.760 So listen, before we go to the next segment and 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.160 have our special guests joint, we're gonna take a quick 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.440 break for our sponsors further Ado, we have my brother 0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.320 or rolling in the What's going on Earth? I got 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.760 going on? Man, we get we getting ready to get 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.520 a bus and we're gonna go down, you know, to 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:14.440 about Oklahoma somewhere be the You're gonna look, you're coming 0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:18.200 with us. Look, he always wouldn't look. That's what I'm 0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.560 trying to say, always on cold whenever it's time to go. Man, 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.920 that's the last time I think I saw you, you 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.920 about three rows ahead of me, sleeping on a bus 0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:32.040 for nine days, eleven days then, yeah, state of emergency. 0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.600 I saw y'all was in Louisville for Travis. Oh yeah, 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:41.520 was at the funerals. Yeah. So you just walked a 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.239 mighty long way and we laughed at you. I just 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.719 want you to know, um, we laughed because we know 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.960 what you want to know all about that. Walked in 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:56.640 the bottom of your feet every night. That's so c neat. Yeah, yeah, 0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:01.280 that's so. I know your your eggs. You boy, you 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.480 play ball, but you know that it's a different when 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.000 you just walking on that pavement. Did you get some 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.080 mold skin and all that that you're to put it in? 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.200 I had everything. I had some stuff to keep your 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:17.040 feet from blistering. Um. Then I had some stuff for um, 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.520 you know, keep them shaping or whatever. And then I 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.320 had stuff because I got a bad hip. I got 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.040 I'm hooping. I got a towny achilles broken leg on 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.440 the other side. So from all this running bad and 0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.200 jumping bad, I got a bad hip. So man, I 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:34.840 was all messed up. Now what was happening that you 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.240 would do that type of put that type of strain 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.120 on your body knowing that first of all, you're not 0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.400 a young chicken anymore because we didn't got older. And 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.640 then you you talk about these injuries from playing sports 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:52.600 and to still go and walk that long because we know, 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.040 we did two hundred plus miles from New York City 0:32:56.040 --> 0:33:00.000 to Washington, d C. When Eric Garner was killed, UM 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:04.840 to bring criminal justice perform packages to UH, to Congress 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.520 and and and you know, we were fighting for three bills. 0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.400 Shout out to our Justice League family led by Assister 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.680 Carmen Perez. It was rough. I mean, I had to 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.840 get shots in my knees. I've been through a lot, 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.280 so it had to be a good reason why you 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.480 hit the pavement in that way. So my brother Julius 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.280 Jones man, UM. You know, we always talked about how 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.560 you know, you guys do it more than me obviously, 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.760 but you know we're always on the front line for 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.959 people that we didn't know. You know what, it's Brianna Taylor, whoever. 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.320 Julius Jones is someone that I grew up playing basketball 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.240 with and against. UM. He was a year older than me. 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.080 He was on academic scholarship at the University of Oklahoma 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.880 engineering major and UH he was framed for a murder 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.960 in so for the last twenty plus years he's been 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.000 facing the death penalty in the state of Oklahoma. So 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:56.560 I have a friend J. B. Williams, who was a 0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.520 rapper and activists in Oklahoma City, and he had the 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.680 idea of like, man, look we've been doing marches, we've 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.280 been going rallies. It's not enough. Let's just walk to 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.680 the prison. So we started at the state capital, Okama City, 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.200 and we walked a hundred and thirty one miles from 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.080 Oklahoma City, state capital all the way to the prison 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.960 um State President in Kalistar, Oklahama. That's amazing, man, that's like, 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.200 you know, we wish that we had people fighting like 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.960 that for us in all situations. You know. I remember 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.799 I was incarcerated and I was in there for a 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.719 crime I didn't commit, and it was days. I used 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.400 to write to certain people, you know. I remember I 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.760 wrote a letter to my judge and she actually replied 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.560 to me, you know, and she and she said, she 0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.000 said some good things, and she was like, you know, 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.399 I really I remember your case vividly. I remember she said, 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.680 I remember a case vividly, and you know, I was 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.400 just I was bound by my job too. You know, 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.000 the jury found you guilty, but you know, I believe 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.960 that you're gonna come home and be uh productive member 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.000 of society. And I used to always wish that was 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.239 people just fighting for me. So I know, regardless of 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:06.200 his situation, just seeing that people put that type of 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.520 energy into fighting for him, I know that gives him 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.800 some level of energy. Man. I just want to commend you, 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.520 you know, as it was wild, because it would be 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.960 time like that first day we hit the gates running 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.799 like we were a little too ambitious. We out here 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.160 like were running a sprint and uh, you know it's 0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.200 raining and snowing. My ankles is cooked. I'm out of there. 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:31.000 And then he called, Julius called on the phone and 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.000 you know he you know, like you said, man, to 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.040 know that you're behind the walls and people out here 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.480 giving up, you know, their time, their energy to do 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.160 this for you. Like his energy woke us up and 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.520 gave us some strength, man. And so like that kept 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.080 happening every day and I'm just like, man, it's it's 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.239 easy for me to sit back and do whatever I'm 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.960 doing and be comfortable and you know, just be like 0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.560 hashtag free. Julius gotta be front and center. We gotta 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.680 do something that's right. Tell me about the other individuals 0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.840 that walked with you. Yeah, So my friend j B. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.960 He's a rapper activist and I'm from a city very 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.719 uh tapped in the community in Oklama City. And then 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:11.040 his girlfriend Francy, who's a lawyer, criminal justice lawyer in 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.439 Oklahoma City. And then two white guys that are close 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:18.279 with j B. One Jess Eddie, he's um has a 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.920 law degree and does a lot of stuffies out there 0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:22.640 on the front lines every day with our people. A 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:26.560 great ally and m Cody Bass, whom I mean, this 0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.280 dude is just ride or dive. When we had our rally, 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.120 man he broke down crying because he just every day 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.719 it just each at him that the situations that we 0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.640 have to endure because the five of us, man, we 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.239 hit the ground. We didn't want a lot of people 0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.839 because because you all know you you we can't trust everybody. 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.600 We got COVID still is a thing. So just the 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.760 five of us hitting the ground, that's like we wanted 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.360 to be there, you know. It just we was in Atlanta. 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.799 We're working on this center race, but we sent all 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.200 our love man, and we and we just was like 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.120 IRV is one of us was in the streets. We 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.279 would just say out of nowhere, you know, Linda Saser 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.480 and Angelo Attorney Angelo penol Our co found this. We 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.040 were all in the same are and be Airbnb and 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:11.640 we would turn around and be like, how the hell 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:15.080 is erv Man? Like anybody check on Earth to day 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.360 because we know how hard this. So his family, like, 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.879 does he have support and what's the goals at this point? 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.800 Right now, we're trying to get back in front of 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.600 the Partner pole board and fighters Clintency. Um, There's been 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.239 a number of celebrities that have come forth and try 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.520 to fight for him. By Alla Davis did the show, 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:39.160 UM The Last Defense on ABC A special. Uh. Kim 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.239 Kardashian has been in Oklahoma several times to me with 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:47.040 our governor. Um Baker Mayfield, quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.919 Every Sunday he wears justice for Julius on the back 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.759 of his helmet, even though the NFL, you know, if 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.080 they choose not to speak on it, but um, he 0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.080 does that. And so you know our brother Kenny steals Man. 0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.320 Everybody been fighting for him. So we're ho been that 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.880 once he gets back in front of Partning broad board. UM, 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.799 we can show them what he can do once he 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.919 gets out, and how he's been affecting change even though 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:11.600 he's inside the walls, and how he can be a 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:16.440 productive member of society. Boy, So are there like petitions 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.640 or anything that we need to be signed? What do 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.560 we need to do? Justice for Julius dot com? You 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.360 can go on there. It has my friend c C. 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:28.000 I'll be crazy not can mentioned. R c C is 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.360 c C. Johnes. She's uh a wife of an NBA 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.800 trainer on the medical side. He worked with the Oakland 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.000 City Thunder for years. That's how she got tapped in 0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.120 with it um. But now they're in Washington with the Wizards. 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.920 But c C took this whole thing to another level, uh, 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.360 with the with the social media stuff. So if you 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.600 go to Justice for Julius dot Com, that's the page 0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.920 she put together and has a whole story, all the documentaries, 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.279 you can sign a petition and all that stuff. So 0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.320 we've been sharing that like crazy. Well, we're definitely gonna 0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.799 share it, We're gonna sign it, We're gonna do all 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.680 we can. Man. We I just appreciate you, brother, man. 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.759 You know, like I tell you about I think one 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.200 thing about Earth man. From the minute I met him. 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.440 His energy is always up. He's always just like a 0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:16.640 spark in the room. You know. He comes to you, good, bro, 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.120 he checks on me, just just checking in on you, man, 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.719 like you need people like good brothers like yourself. And 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.600 I'm just I'm just happy to be somebody that that 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.840 I can have the access that I have to a 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.440 brother like you, man. So I really appreciate you can. 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.000 I think one of the things that I really appreciate 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.560 about you is how much you work. Like you know. 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.520 I remember there was a moment when we were on 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.960 the State of Emergency tour. You know, I think people 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.520 feel it's fun to just be out on the road 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.840 and that you know, we're like hanging out and we 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.600 do make it look good, right, you guys work out. 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.200 Y'all are well trained and um and you know, you 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.000 look good and we look like we're having great experiences 0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.800 and we make it feel fun and we make it cool. 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.280 But that bus ride after a while, when you trying 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.480 to figure out a position for seven or eight hours 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.239 riding from state to state. When we made it to 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:15.440 um Pittsburgh, we almost died under that awning whatever we 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.160 it was literally flying up again shout out to our 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:23.040 one hood family, just Sirian Celeste x Um. We went. 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.399 We went through a lot on that role. We went. 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.040 It was cold, it was hot. It was so many 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.719 things that we experienced and moments that were really difficult 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.040 and challenging. And I remember when we were outside of 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.359 a college in North Carolina. It was after actually I fell. 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.759 I hurt myself and so I showed up late. And 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.080 when I got there, you were like giving out T 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:49.120 shirts and and and helping people and really in the mix. 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.319 And there are people who are around us who hang 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.080 with us and they they they're good people, but they 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.160 don't really really get their hands dirty. But that's something 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.840 that you do. Do you think that you're experiences, um, 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.640 you know working within the NBA, Like what made you 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.880 this guy that is willing to put the real grind 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:12.360 into the work? Man? Um? I think you know my father, 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.080 my grandfather that both ministers. Um My aad is actually 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:20.880 an elementary school principal and a Baptist minister. So I 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.520 think it comes from them obviously in the you know, 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.000 working in the NBA. For me, I wasn't an NBA player, 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.120 so I had to grind to get where I am. 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.080 I haven't. I don't know if I've told job, but 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.120 like to start in the NBA, I had to work 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.520 for free, forty fifty hours a week for the Austin Celtics, 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:38.360 just to give my foot in the door, you know 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.640 what I'm saying. And so if I had to do 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.239 that for my professional career, I mean it's unlimited. My 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.320 sign here joking about are we're gonna get on the 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.200 bus to do this. You know, I'm with whatever. I 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.240 feel like it's gonna take for us to get whatever 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.239 we want. I'm with whatever. And so you know that's 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.040 really my mindset. And you know, when we got arrested 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.560 with the Louisville Lady seven, I would tell people the 0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:02.640 group of men and I was in jail with that's 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:06.080 what America should be like, should be uh and women. 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.960 Obviously it was more of them, but in myself there 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.960 should be people that don't look alike, to come from 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.920 different backgrounds, that are willing to sacrifice whatever to, you know, 0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.399 to get our liberation. And so you know that's really 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.600 my mindset. Being around you guys, being around the rest 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:24.240 of the group is always therapeutic for me. Kenny Steals, 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:29.560 our brother uh, we have to have him on the show. Yeah, 0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:31.759 but y'all his season, hopefully they get a couple more 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.200 dubs and he can get a ring. But hopefully the 0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.120 Buffalo Bills go all the way. But um, you know, 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.040 we talked about it all the time in our space, 0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.439 um and I even hit up trade of truth about 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.840 it invent to him in our space and sports and entertainment. 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.959 It's it's it's a struggle sometimes to be around these 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:53.120 guys that are so far removed from reality, you know 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:54.759 what I mean. And I spent more time with them 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.319 than I do with my family around y'all, it's therapeutic, man, 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.480 because it's it's here that you get around people like that. Well, 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.080 it's it's it's a blessing for us to and it's 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.480 rare to have people who are authentic as we are, man. 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.879 And you're definitely one of the real ones they say, real, recognized, real, 0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.279 and you look familiar, Kings. So we're just want to 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:21.200 preciate never never, already, well, we appreciate you Earth. You know, 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.080 you know we're gonna be on the road soon. We're 0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:28.160 gonna be doing something, man, so you already know alright, 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:33.920 peace peace, see listen man, like, that's what it is. 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.840 That's what it's about for me. Man Like brothers like Earth, 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:41.560 you know that really live a life of service, you know, 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:43.319 because that's how I live my life. Like when I 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.399 it don't be no reason like people, oh you out here, 0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.520 you cloud chasing, don't care. It's like, what does that mean? 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.120 Like I don't even know what that means. I see 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.160 a need like I don't want to see brothers in jail. 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:56.960 I don't want to see brothers dying. I don't want 0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.520 to see people sisters being abused. I don't want justice 0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:05.520 is to continue to just discard us. And in the 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.840 spirit of Black History Month, you know, we want to 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.280 talk about what black kids really means to black people 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.920 and four black people, like I joked at the beginning 0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:16.600 by like, we need to have a whole year, but 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.200 it is significant that we have this month and just 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:24.080 understanding that we all have some level of responsibility in 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.200 this month. And you know, and I just thought it 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.279 made sense to talk about that after showing his responsibility, 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.480 because we know what that moskin, We know what the 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:35.640 feet feel like one and thirty eight miles of walking. 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:38.960 And there's some people that say, what is that gonna 0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.560 do well doing nothing absolutely and just gonna do nothing. So, 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:47.920 you know, I appreciate r. I see Earth's character and 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:52.080 I know that he really is a leader. There's so 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:56.239 many UM athletes and others who he may not. You know, 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.760 IRV is not on the floor every night every game, 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.920 he's not sung hero of the NBA. But yet the 0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.320 work that he's doing with NBA and NFL players behind 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.359 the scenes, it's so important because we're always like, who 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.560 do you talk to? Like when we hear players say 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:17.319 the craziest thing you're talking about? Yeah you need you? Like? 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:22.120 What since it is black history? Like what should people 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.480 be doing? What should we be united? Like? What should 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.920 we be telling people? Well? I already said, you know 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.000 earlier that I think it's an important month to really 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:35.560 really talk to our kids because so many of our 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.280 young people do not know history. They don't know anything 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.360 about it. And that's also because adults don't know it. 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.160 So one thing that I think people should do is 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.400 by your book, right, Oh yeah, get my book. I 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.799 know my rights, that's right, I know my rights, and 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.920 definitely go pre order to make a Malory's book State 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.200 of Emergency. But but something they can actually get this month. 0:45:56.239 --> 0:46:00.000 My book comes out May eleventh, and I definitely support 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.400 are Absolutely you should buy a lot of people's books 0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:09.000 during Smith Absolutely bevelations, Mark Lamont Hill has a new 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.239 book out. There are a lot of people who we 0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.279 should purchase and and by black, as they say, and 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:19.319 also not just by black, but by black intellectualism right 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.239 trying to learn you something. So I think that's one 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.600 thing I think again, educating yourself and your kids. And 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.400 the reason why I said by your book is because 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.400 one of the things that I noticed, which you know, 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.720 it's really amazing to see how well your book is doing, 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.200 is um it really is. It's and I mean really 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.680 really doing well. And one of the things we see 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.120 is that a lot of parents have purchased the book, 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.120 especially during COVID while they're home with their kids. They're 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.240 trying to give their kids a little bit of extra 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.200 oo and you don't give them things to read, probably 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.040 to keep them out the way a little bit because 0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.239 there's a lot being in the house with everybody all 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.640 the time. But they're learning also, and you see parents 0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.680 writing in the comments. I bought the book my kids, 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.960 we read it together and I learned as they were learning, 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.160 So I think that's important. I also think you know, 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:11.360 something is simple. It's simple. It might seem a little 0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.800 like okay, yeah to Amica. Fix some things with people 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:19.600 that you know that you work with, or other organizations 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:24.560 that you might have. You know, people who you know 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.880 you might not be working with that you know. You 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:30.000 should try to see whether or not this is a 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.960 good time that there's some relationships you just can't restore. 0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:35.799 Some people you just got to leave them alone and 0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.280 it's best for you and them. But there are some relationships, 0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.759 and I'm speaking of professional relationship, but this applies to 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.839 all relationships that this is a good time to have 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:49.000 a kind word um to make sure that black people 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:53.440 in general, that we we have some level of peace 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:57.040 among us, whatever that means. Relationships take on different things. 0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.919 You may have left the job, you may not nest 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.720 to severely be working with the particular group of people. 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.600 You may have had to exit a movement, but it 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:09.280 doesn't mean that the relationship has to be so bad 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:13.839 that you're now out speaking negatively against one another, you know, 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.560 publicly doing things that harms other people and the movement. 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.359 So I know that might you know, be something that's 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:24.200 kind of like as corny, but it's actually important. We 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.359 were going through too much like when we look at 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.759 the insurrection and we look at how that transpired, right, 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.360 and most most of us realized that that wasn't our situation. 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.279 You know, stand back, stand by, let them deal with 0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.600 their own issues like we had to deal with ours 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.520 and you know, chickens coming home and ruce. But in 0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:47.759 this moment, right, we should be unifying under something else 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:51.359 because even though we know that particular situation doesn't have 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.719 anything to do us, the fallouts from these situations will 0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.799 definitely affect us as black because we look at you know, 0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:02.160 how the white suprema to see it's now waging war, right, 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.600 even though it's waging war on its own government that 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.920 created it, and it's coming, you know, and they have 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.000 to deal with that. But we know ultimately when when 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.759 they get a cold, we get pneumonia. Right, So we 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.040 have to be uniuniting right now. We have to say 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:19.520 what is our strategy because effectively these things that you know, 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.160 the ramifications of what happened there, will come to our communities, 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:25.399 will come to our homes, will come to our doors, 0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.080 or come in our taxes, whatever it is, it's gonna 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.000 come to us. So we have to be figuring out 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.360 how do we unify, how do we strategize, how do 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.760 we build, how we building black empowerment, how we building 0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:40.719 black businesses, entrepreneurship, how we educating our own, how we 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.760 creating a structure within this structure that we are self 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:48.759 sustainable because because Romans followed, Because when we look at this, 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.080 you know, empires fall all the time, and this is 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.799 what we're seeing right now. We're seeing the fall of 0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:56.040 an empire, and there's going to be a new structure, 0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.239 and we have to be able to make sure that 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:03.960 we've created instructure OVID. We've been saying it will the country, 0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.560 the world will never be the same, right, so there 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:11.239 is going to be some difference, right that it will 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.600 come out of all that we have seen happening over 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.719 these last too. I don't know it's been so long 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.520 at this point. I don't know it's been forever, but 0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.000 it really has been this four year period where we 0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:29.040 have learned about the vulnerabilities of this country. We also 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.239 have learned how much hatred is really out there, because 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.600 there were a lot of people who up until about 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.640 George Floyd, maybe a little bit before that, they just 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:39.560 really acted like they didn't know. And I'm talking my 0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.080 folks who look like us. I don't really think they 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.680 were acting because, you know what, prior to me getting 0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:47.439 into this movement, to me, like probably eight years ago, 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:51.239 like I didn't understand, like I didn't know what was 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.279 going on. I was in my own silo. It was 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.640 in my own in the hood, trying to figure out 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.400 how I was gonna do this, how it's gonna wrap, 0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:59.480 how it's gonna do things, and how it was going 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.120 to Uh. You know, I always knew I wanted the 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.759 right thing. I would see people dying, but I don't 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:08.280 think until Trade Lawnmartin it actually made me pay attention, 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:10.680 you know. So there are a lot of people that 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.319 really just don't don't know. They don't know. And you know, 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.600 one of the things that happened, I posted that we 0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.319 as black folks need to stand back and stand by 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.400 during that. I obviously we got that from the guy, 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.719 and so I said, we need to do that and 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:28.320 not get involved in these people's business because I believe 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.799 that white folks were having a throw in a tantrum 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.799 and we need to not be We don't need to 0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:39.520 always handle the burden of everybody else's fight. We just 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:43.399 can't do it every time. But people, some folks took 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.160 it the wrong way and said, oh no, we can't 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.600 just you know, ignore it. We still have to deal 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:51.080 We know, absolutely we have to deal with the issues. Absolutely, 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:54.160 there will be a fallout. And it's not even a fallout, 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.680 it's a front end, right. And what the reason why 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.480 I said it is because when I think about the men, 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.800 the red men responsible for killing Ahmad are very they 0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:10.560 are the insurrectionists, the patriots, those because they believe that 0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.879 they are the right to kill him. They believe that he, 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.239 this black man, should not be going through our community unchecked, 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:18.920 and I should be able to have a citizen's arrest. 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.759 And he's supposed to listen to me. He supposed to 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:23.560 do what I say, and he's not supposed to give 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.480 any resistance. And if he gives resistance to what I say, 0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:28.440 I have the right to kill him, because that's what 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.880 white supremacy teaches. I don't know, I feel like, yes, 0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:36.319 we have to pay attention, but I actually think it's 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:39.840 a different moment. I think this is a moment that 0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:43.120 we need to like slide under the radar, and focus 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:47.200 on our own plane exactly that plans, because they're not 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:49.840 really paying attention that much to us at this moment, 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.040 and they're more they're caught up in what's on news 0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:56.440 and with what's gonna happen with impeachments and this and 0:52:56.520 --> 0:53:00.080 that and all of those things. Is the is the 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.960 the mainline focus. And while they're focusing on those things, 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:07.400 we need to be focusing on some of the plans, 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.600 the brilliant plans that are out there about building our 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.240 own structures, as you said, creating a structure within a structure, 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.440 um figuring out ways to ensure that our children have 0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.440 the knowledge that they need not just to be a 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.719 good and successful but also to be black, like black 0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:32.280 and black. And that that's why we developed like until 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.880 Freedom Right, because we've seen a need, We've seen a 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.840 need in this movement where people like myself didn't feel included. 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.480 We didn't feel that, you know, we represented what the 0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:46.120 movement looked like. We didn't come from Ivy League, you know, 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:49.600 we didn't have this. See I've been in the movement 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:53.040 for so long that I never really agree with you 0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.160 about this, But for now, that's what I see. But 0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:58.200 that's what we see or or or you have a 0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:02.200 church background or everything that you you're done is is quoted. 0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.840 You look at our leaders, Dr King. You know, Malcolm 0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:07.120 X had a religious back if you don't come from 0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.640 any of these kind of backgrounds. But when he was 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.120 in we didn't know that. Most of us just thought 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:16.840 Marcolm Mix was this this intelligent black man who represented 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.920 the nation Islam, you know, and he was a brilliant speaker, 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.480 the brilliant man. And some of us were just regular 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.399 dudes from the hood that we knew a couple of words, 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:27.080 We can wrap a little bit, play a little ball, 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.560 and we had passion in us and we wanted to 0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:31.640 do things. We just didn't feel like we was embrace 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.719 And that's what I think. Until freedom was for me, 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:36.960 it wasn't. I don't but you sign this excuse, but 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.040 I'm telling you that it was a real It's a 0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:42.400 real concern. Now I got dudes, rappers and everything that 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.080 hit me up and say, yo, I'll be wanting to 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:46.160 be out there, but I know I'll be doing this 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.120 and I don't want to look like a hypocrite. I'm like, 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.480 what does that mean? What did you do? What you wrap? 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:52.560 You talk about with your reality that you've been through, 0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:55.600 so you can you can't wrap and not want to 0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:59.719 see if people die. At the same time, again, I 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.759 been in the movement longer than you. I have a 0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:06.040 twenty five year track record of being able to see 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:10.200 and understand the movement, but I have more years, thirty 0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:14.239 plus years of just being around. The movement has always 0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:18.280 been made up of people who are just as broken 0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:23.399 as the next person. People who are alcoholics, drug abuses, 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:29.040 people who have broken marriages, people who didn't finish school, um, 0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:31.800 you know, people who came out of prison. All those 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.799 things have always been in the movement. The difference between 0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:39.439 then and now is that we're social Media Number one 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.640 allows you to show more of yourself in your life, 0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:45.319 and if you go on there and you're trying to 0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:49.279 hide certain things about yourself, people can see through it. 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:53.520 So authenticity has become much more of a front and 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:58.399 center piece for organizing and galvanizing people. So I think 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:01.400 what until Freedom is wing that is different from me 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.680 movements of the past. It's not that we're different as 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:08.040 individuals as those who came you know, as I said, 0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:11.120 Red was red right, So it's not that weird different. 0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:15.839 What we are is being more authentic about who we 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:19.080 really are and our failures and our and and the 0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:20.959 things like I always talk about. I like to twork, 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.239 I'm not perfect. I drink, I do things, you know, 0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:26.839 And those were things that that was hidden in the 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:30.280 movement in the PA. They did it behind closed doors, 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:31.920 and we want to do it. I don't want to 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:33.919 do it behind clues. You know, you know I don't. 0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:36.040 I want to be I want to be accepted. I 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.000 want to be able to go from a strip club 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.240 to the march. And I have somebody called me hyocrits. 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:43.680 I hope you don't go from this strip club from 0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:48.680 I don't want to be between the strip club and 0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.320 the march. There needs to be some showering sometimes the 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:59.480 times sometimes the marches. You need to leave after all 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:01.560 of that. But the bottom line is, you know, that's 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:05.320 what that's what the stripple wants your march sweaties thinking 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:12.480 self from the street on her Yeah, yeah, she doesn't. 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:14.640 She don't want it, and we don't want to see 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.720 you when you come from her and her sweaties. Thinking. 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:21.880 Bottom line is, man, we want to have a good 0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:23.720 time and still be at the fight for freedom. And 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:27.280 I think until freedom represents the least of these, those 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.280 who have been casted out from those who from the 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:32.440 streets to the sweets, as we like to say, man. 0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:37.560 And that's what and so what does the future What 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:40.560 do you think the future goal should be for black people? 0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:44.320 I think that we have to have a real clear 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:50.840 and broad understanding of reparations what that means um for 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:54.280 our communities, because people say reparations, and many people as 0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.040 soon as we hear reparations, we think dollars and cents, 0:57:57.240 --> 0:57:59.520 the forty acres in the mile, and we should we 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.440 should have land. We should have land. We should have 0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:05.760 a check. And because we still haven't cash to check. 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.800 Dr King says to check with say it was coming forward, 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.840 and he said the check was insufficient, had insufficient funds. 0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:14.400 So the check is important. And by the way, Joe 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.360 Biden needs to write them two thousand dollar checks. Okay, 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:21.000 you know right there, two thousand dollars, and don't send 0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:25.040 fourteen hundred more, send the whole two. I try to 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.600 check the six hundred thousand. I'm really concerned about whether 0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:31.160 or not I'm supposed to get that all the ppe 0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.400 you know, I ain't got nothing. Well anyway, I got 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:36.400 me a check the six dollars, and I'm really happy 0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.240 to have I needed it. People telling me I could 0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.360 get it at you good? You know, you go the 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:47.160 hood everything. Like listen, I'm telling you get you about 0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:48.919 twenty rap right now. I'm telling you. What you gotta 0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:51.600 do is go fill out the phone a business so 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:55.160 you could do that. I when I got my six 0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:57.400 hundred checked, I was like, WHOA. But if I would 0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:00.360 have received that little two thousand, that's good. So they 0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:02.600 need to just go on scratch that. Don't worry about that, 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.280 just send another two thousand. I'll check out anyway. Most 0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:08.760 people when they hear reparations, they think about cash money um, 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:12.680 and they obviously think about you know, land and ownership 0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:16.280 and and really basically paying us back for what we've 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:19.400 been through and being held back and held down and 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:23.640 in this country. But reparations to me means other things. 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.520 It also means ensuring that the laws are set up 0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:29.720 in a way that provides equity to our communities. It 0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:36.040 means things like retroactively looking at sentencing laws and guidelines 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:39.880 and going back and allowing people especially we talked about 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.720 Gloria Taylor, a woman who's in prison for nine and 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:47.800 ninety nine years for selling a handful of cocaine. These 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:51.520 are things that we want to see changes made and 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.400 people allowed to be free to go back to the allives, 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:57.720 back to their families. No elder should be imprisoned if 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:01.520 they didn't commit a heinous crime fact, especially for drug 1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:04.720 dealing or drug abuse, because there are still people in 1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:08.640 prison not for selling drugs, but for an act that 1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:13.160 they may have committed that did not include murder or 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:16.360 rape or anything like that when they were using drugs, 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:20.120 which is now considered to be a sickness because white 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:24.520 people are on opioid absolutely, and so we want to 1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:28.360 see that, you know, our people are letting our people go. Um. 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.560 That should be a part of the reparations plan um 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:35.800 and you know, and reparations let let our people go. 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:42.920 Joe Biden's black, black and voice, now you know what 1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:45.720 I'm saying, he should definitely want to contribute to let 1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:50.520 my people. Will you have a lot of people we 1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:54.360 talked about that exactly, So listen to me. I want 1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:58.440 you to understand I am not blind or ignorant to 1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:01.520 the fact of the harm that was caused to black 1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:04.720 people by this administration. You know, So when when i'm 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:12.840 individuals within the well individuals, when I'm well the administration, individuals, 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:17.320 the president, the head of present president, and vice president, 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:21.560 they have contributed to the locking up of black bodies. 1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:23.720 That is a fact. I don't there's nowhere around it. 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:28.120 But I believe that they have more in store and 1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:33.560 more of a forward path for black people then peach Man. 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:36.360 And that's what I said, And I said that we 1:01:36.400 --> 1:01:38.919 were going to push them, for we were. He had 1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:42.960 say that, you know, people were piste off with us 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:46.240 because we were, like, you know, to the preachers right 1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:49.080 that went to go meet with Trump many many years back, 1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:52.680 or to some of them, some of the singers, you 1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:56.360 know that we're we're out there flirting with Trump, and 1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:59.160 I don't mean that in a sexual way, but you know, 1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:02.960 trying to be his friend, performing at his events. And 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:05.240 and we challenged them every time it came up. We 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:09.000 challenged them, and people said, you can meet with anybody 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:13.720 now that we see what happened with the insurrection and 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:18.040 the way that he actually led slaughter because they were 1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:21.680 out there slaughtering, that's what they were doing, beating people 1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:26.200 with flags, dragging them, crushing people, all of those things, 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:29.360 now that you see that, do you think you should 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:34.080 have given that man your time? You think you should 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:36.080 have sat down to meet with that man. We knew 1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:39.240 that was he, someone said on my page the other day, 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:42.920 which I thought was absolutely hilarious because I was like, 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:45.440 we already knew this. You know, this is after the 1:02:45.480 --> 1:02:48.360 insurrection um and I said, I said, I said, we 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.760 knew this. I was on Live. I was like, you know, 1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:56.920 he's been racist, he's been sexists, he was always harmful. 1:02:57.000 --> 1:03:00.240 We knew it. And the person wrote, he came down 1:03:00.320 --> 1:03:06.720 the escalator, grabbing Coody and speaking and speaking violently. And 1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:10.280 that's a fact. The escalator For people who don't remember, 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.560 when he was running for president, after announcing that he 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:16.560 was running for president, there was a moment where Donald 1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:20.439 Trump and Milania Trump were coming down the escalator at 1:03:20.520 --> 1:03:25.040 the Trump Towers in Manhattan, and he at that moment 1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:28.640 was talking about the Mexicans. He was being divisive off 1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:32.400 the back. He was saying the nastiest things that day. 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:35.320 I don't remember the exact words, he said. I'm sure 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:37.800 we can find it and play the clip from him 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:40.840 coming down the escalator. But to the person on my 1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:45.720 pages point, he was grabbing coody and talking crazy from 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:49.600 that moment all the way through his campaign. So once 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:52.720 he became president, he didn't just change, and in fact, 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:56.160 for the last four years he literally has been working 1:03:56.240 --> 1:04:01.000 on and planning and being very intentional about organizing a 1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:06.200 cult of individuals and being able to use their vulnerabilities, 1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:11.280 weaknesses and their dumbass, ignorant cells to challenge this country 1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:14.680 for his benefit because he does not care about them. 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:18.120 How do you care about people that you allow to 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:21.960 go get themselves now locked up? People don't lost their jobs, 1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:26.280 CEOs have been fired by their boards. You don't care 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:28.440 about anybody that you allowed to go do that in 1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:32.520 your honor? You can't because the bottom line is Trump 1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:35.680 has always been about Trump, you know, and not not 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:39.480 only white supremacy, but narcissism is one of his biggest 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:44.640 attributes in his mind, like his not caring about what 1:04:44.720 --> 1:04:47.680 you think and how it affects people, you know, has 1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:51.320 got him to a place that he feels is successful. 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:52.960 In the same thing that got him there is the 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.600 same thing that has taken it away to destroy him. 1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:58.520 And I thought blue lives matter to happen. Where's the 1:04:58.520 --> 1:05:01.440 blue lives matter? People? Man? People don't kill the people 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:06.360 killed the officers. Yeah, we're like, where's the blue lives matter? 1:05:06.360 --> 1:05:08.120 When black people was out there and they said that 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:12.760 somebody did anything that closely remotely looked like standing in 1:05:12.760 --> 1:05:15.200 front of me hurting it was blue lives matter, they 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:17.959 stood up, they turned their backs on governors and mays 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:20.680 and said this and that we we can't take this. 1:05:20.840 --> 1:05:23.640 Where are the blue lives matter? And I thought Trump 1:05:23.720 --> 1:05:26.120 was a Blue Lives Matter person, so he really should 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:29.880 be out there condemning Blue lives only matter when it's 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:37.000 black lives you kill, kill And that brings me to 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:39.920 what I don't get. What don't you get, sir? You know? 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:42.400 And in the spirit of Black history moth, what I 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:45.840 really don't get right is how you can be a 1:05:45.920 --> 1:05:54.280 black person with any level of influence, any level of notoriety, financials, 1:05:54.480 --> 1:05:59.800 you know, surplus, and not see the need to do 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:03.800 something to help our culture and help out people like 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:07.840 it's it's so strange to me when I see brothers 1:06:07.880 --> 1:06:12.600 like Earth, you know, brothers like trade, brothers that's on 1:06:12.640 --> 1:06:16.560 the front line, that's willing to sacrifice something all the time. 1:06:16.640 --> 1:06:19.640 They don't have as much, don't have as much reach 1:06:20.240 --> 1:06:24.200 don't have as much influence, don't have as much finances, 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:27.000 anything willing to really put their lives on the front 1:06:27.080 --> 1:06:30.480 line for our people. And it's people who have surplus 1:06:30.960 --> 1:06:33.760 that don't want to risk anything. How do you sit 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:39.800 how do they don't even want to contribute to they're scared, 1:06:40.080 --> 1:06:43.480 like they just don't care. But I don't understand how 1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:47.800 as somebody who's been through it, who understands the struggle 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:50.760 that black people are, who knows who probably went through 1:06:50.760 --> 1:06:54.160 the exact struggle, who come from the same humble beginnings 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:56.160 as most of us come from, how do you not 1:06:56.240 --> 1:07:00.600 see the need in this moment to utilize everything you 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:03.440 have to ensure that we don't go back to that 1:07:03.520 --> 1:07:06.760 that we evolved past, that we actually get equity, actually 1:07:06.840 --> 1:07:11.040 get equality. How do you sleep at night knowing that 1:07:11.120 --> 1:07:14.480 you ain't this ship? Like, how do you do? I 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:17.640 get that? I get it? And it's a simple answer 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:20.680 for me. They know that there are some of us 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:23.560 that are going to fight on their behalf because everything 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:27.560 they have came from someone else's blood, and so they 1:07:27.600 --> 1:07:30.520 don't really see a need to step in and do 1:07:30.600 --> 1:07:34.080 anything because they are leaning on the backs of Big 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:37.760 Mama and Big Papa, who have been carrying them through 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:42.520 that everything they ever have, every type of uh, every 1:07:42.560 --> 1:07:46.840 bit of their success is based upon the sweat equity 1:07:46.880 --> 1:07:50.240 of those who came before them, and therefore they don't 1:07:50.280 --> 1:07:54.040 see a need. They don't understand the importance of getting involved, 1:07:54.240 --> 1:07:57.680 because why do that when somebody's gonna feed somebody's gonna 1:07:57.720 --> 1:08:01.880 feed your empire with the bottom line is you can push, 1:08:02.560 --> 1:08:04.880 you can can you can feed your own empire and 1:08:04.920 --> 1:08:08.800 create a legacy, you can change. You actually have. You 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:12.600 are your ancestors, wildest dreams, your ancestors, and when you 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:15.920 look at history, people actually when because people say this, 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:18.320 you know it's cliche, people died for you to get 1:08:18.360 --> 1:08:21.280 with you, but this is they literally died for you 1:08:21.320 --> 1:08:25.240 to get opportunities that to be able to be financially 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:28.519 stable and have excess amount of money and have access 1:08:28.560 --> 1:08:31.479 and have people pay attention and listen to what you're saying. 1:08:31.760 --> 1:08:35.479 Like I'm not saying, dedicate your whole life to this 1:08:35.560 --> 1:08:38.280 movement or civil rights or just to you know, the 1:08:38.320 --> 1:08:42.000 elevation of black people. But take some part of your life, 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:44.840 take some part of what you have, your voice, your 1:08:44.880 --> 1:08:49.200 finance is something, and give to the elevation of the people. 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:52.000 This especially in Black history money. I think if you 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:53.840 are a black person in Black history money and you 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:57.360 and you have the ability to elevate this culture, to 1:08:57.479 --> 1:09:01.320 push your people, to give them more access, more resources, 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:04.160 more anything, and you don't do it, then you like, 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:06.800 what are you what are you doing? What are you 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:10.679 really doing? I absolutely agree, you know, I don't. I 1:09:10.720 --> 1:09:14.360 don't respect anyone who's not engaged in some way, shape 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:16.160 or form. And you don't have to be on the 1:09:16.200 --> 1:09:18.120 front line, but you certainly need. You need to be 1:09:18.160 --> 1:09:20.439 on the line. You need to be in line, line 1:09:20.600 --> 1:09:23.040 in line. Well, listen, the number one show in the world, 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:26.720 the number one. We had another dope show, another dope 1:09:27.120 --> 1:09:30.400 number one podcast to existence number one. Make sure you 1:09:30.439 --> 1:09:33.439 tune in top top. We better than everybody in the world. 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:37.320 There's no podcast ever better than us. Listen, I'm happy 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:41.559 that we had this this Black History Month. It's been good. 1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:43.880 And you know, street Politicians is the thing people are 1:09:43.920 --> 1:09:46.760 starting to You don't hit me up and say, yo, 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:49.200 I've been watching the shows. 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