1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: All right, break it down. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: and Cat gotcha, Cob and locking m brother, ladies and felts. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: We just follow Anna spirit where it's all the front 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: over real stuff, tell the chill stuff and him. 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: But Swayne. 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes the best thing you can do it just. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: Stop you feel things. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 4: This is feeling things with Amy and Kat. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Kat and our feeling of the day. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 4: I'm ringing the feeling. 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Okay, it is I feel relief because my boyfriend met 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: my ex husband. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 4: Check. 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know the story. 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: So my daughter had a birthday and we all went 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: out to eat. I didn't tell you this part. Alex, 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: we've said his. 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 2: Name, okay, okay. 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 5: Alex was with you. 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: Well, no, sheer invited him. 23 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: My daughter said he could, but he had not met 24 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: her dad, my ex husband, And he said, it's her birthday. 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: I don't want that to. 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Be like a overshadow overshadow her birthday because not that 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: it totally would, but we just didn't Eve want to 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: run the risk of that. He said, how about after 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: her dinner, all stop by the house and he did 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: that my in laws, my ex in laws, were in 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: town though I still call them my in laws, but 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: they're my ex in laws, and they were coming by 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: my house because they gave me a ride to the dinner. 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: And then at dinner I talked to Ben about how, hey, 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: Alex is going to be coming by the house. 36 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: It was like, why don't you stop by? 37 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Your parents gonna be coming, and then I don't know 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: if you had something to pick up or drop off. 39 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. Because this happened. 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: My relief is I've been able to exhale for the 41 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: last like, I don't know, a week and a half, 42 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: two weeks now, So this happened a minute ago, which 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: is so funny that we haven't talked about it. But 44 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we hold off stuff because well, we 45 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: know we're going to record it for the podcast, or 46 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: we talk about other things. So my exhale is like 47 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I just feel relief, like it it felt so good 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: to have it go well, and I guess in my 49 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: mind I was like, I don't know how this is 50 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: ever going to go or what it's going to be like, 51 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: and it's going to be so awkward, And it wasn't 52 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: awkward at all. 53 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: And so what was. 54 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 5: It like, like did he come to the door and who? 55 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Ben always comes to the back door, 56 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: but this day he came to the front door, and 57 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: I think he just thought. 58 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm like, what are you doing? Like you 59 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: always come through the back. 60 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: So he came to the front door, knocked, and I'm like, 61 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: I knew you were coming over and your parents are here, 62 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: just walk in. So he knocked and then he came in, 63 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: and then Alex is already talking to his parents. 64 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: So they met. 65 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: So Alex met my ex inlaws okay, and my ex 66 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: husbin and he walks in and they both just like 67 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: lean towards each other with like a firm grip. 68 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cryocat was here. 69 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: It was like this very firm like, like the firmest like. 70 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: And then it was first name, last name, both of them. 71 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was like, hey, I'm boom Beam and 72 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: He's like not. 73 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: Not, you know, I'm sorry. I don't think I've ever 74 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: introduced myself as Catherine Defotta to anybody or van Be okay. 75 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: So we can act it out with our names. 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: I could be like if I walked in your your 77 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: say I always came in your back door, but today 78 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: I come to your front door. And then I walk 79 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: in and with a very firm him shake, I'm like. 80 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Hey, Amy Brown, Catherine van Buren, No. 81 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: You need Cat vaan Buren, Cat van Buren shake? 82 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 2: Wait wait what if? What if? 83 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Then introduced himself and I was like, just so you 84 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: can remember his name? 85 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. 86 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: I don't think I'll have trouble forgetting it. 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: But that is that's such a dude thing of like, 88 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: oh my first name and my last name. 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Yes, for both of them. Like I was like, what 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: I was sitting? I was like, what is going on 91 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: just now? It was very interesting to see men in 92 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: their natural habitat. 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: What did they say after they said it. 94 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 4: Was they just started touching casual Alex. 95 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: They had Alex do a mutual friend of Ben's, and 96 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Ben had just put on this awesome charity event for 97 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: foster kids like that week. That's why his parents were 98 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: in town, and then it was to Shear's birthday, so 99 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: they stayed in town for that as well. But Alex 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: asked him how the event went, and Ben was sort 101 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: of like, how how did you know about that? He's like, oh, 102 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: my friend was going And then they talked about the 103 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: night and Alex said like, oh, yeah, well, congratulations, that's 104 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: really awesome, and it was a very normal I just 105 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, that exhale, that relief, and so the gift 106 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: of relief is something stressful or. 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: Painful has ended or east. 108 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and not that it was painful, but I did 109 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: have a little bit of stress of like, when is 110 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: this going to happen? 111 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 4: How is it going to happen? 112 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Because I thought maybe it would happen at a track 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: meet for one of the kids, but then it never 114 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: really worked out to where Alex could get there because 115 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: he's got three kids and then or at a time 116 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: when Ben was gonna be there. 117 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 4: So it just never happened. 118 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: Until it did, and then I was like, yay, So 119 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad that I get to lean into my exhale, 120 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: because without relief, if you don't let yourself sit in 121 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: the relief and feel it and like, then wins will 122 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: feel exhausting. 123 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: Even yeah, that's what I heard, and. 124 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like too. The biggest one of the biggest 125 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: parts of this is the unknown. It's you didn't know 126 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 2: how it was going to happen, and that was the 127 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: most probably consuming. 128 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was it like it was organic. 129 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Yet I was also able to give a heads up, 130 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: so nobody was surprised. 131 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: Like I didn't know it would happen that night. 132 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: But at dinner, Bin and I sat by each other 133 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: and we had a really good conversation, and so I 134 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: just decided to shoot my shot and say, hey, you know, 135 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: swing by the house. 136 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 137 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I think Vin's Varens were probably more nervous than Vin was, 138 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: because they were like, oh, he's coming, Oh. 139 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: He were going to meet him? 140 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, And then they did and everyone 141 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: was great, Yeah, yeah. 142 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 5: So okay. Well, also, good job Alex for meeting the 143 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: whole fam. 144 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, wins or successful moments should feel energizing, not exhausting. 145 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: You look energized, lean into the relief. 146 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: Love it. 147 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: And now we can go anywhere and do anything and 148 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: run into anybody and I don't have to freak out. 149 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: And by anybody, I mean like. 150 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: I think you would have freaked out if you ran organically. 151 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I think if we were to organically, like if we 152 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: were to run into him. 153 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: Just at a restaurant or at the mall, I guess 154 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: it would be okay, I. 155 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: Thank you, Okay. 156 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: See that's unknown it's like we build it up in 157 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: our heads, but I think you'd be able to handle. 158 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 4: It, and I handled it. I handled it well, okay. 159 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Which speaking of my relationship, you and I were talking 160 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: on the phone before we recorded, and I had a 161 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: kind of an emotional day with my relationship, my with 162 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: my widower boyfriend, which I do want to acknowledge. Really quickly, 163 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: we got a really nice email from Lindsay, who is 164 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: a listener that also married a widower, and she sent 165 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: an email. I'm not going to read the whole thing, 166 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: but I did copy and paste it onto our little 167 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: doc here because I wanted to give her a shout 168 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: out because she gave me encouragement for talking. 169 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: About my relationship the way that I. 170 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Have, because she knows that she felt the same even 171 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: though now they're officially married. 172 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: I'm just dating one. 173 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: But he also had kids, and she shared a little 174 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: bit of her experience becoming a stepmom, and also that 175 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: she knows there's so many other people that are going 176 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: through this and it's a different type of struggle that 177 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: not a lot of people may understand. 178 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: So she was grateful that I was talking about it. 179 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: So Lindsay, also, thank you for sending the email because 180 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: that gave me encouragement to also know that I'm not alone. 181 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: And I think also you talking about it. I just 182 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: wonder if the reason a lot of people aren't talking 183 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: about these types of relationships and the struggles and them 184 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: is you don't ever want to say anything wrong because 185 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: you just wanted to be respectful in everything that you've 186 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: said when you you do talk about it, and that 187 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: keeps people because I don't know, I don't want to 188 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: say the wrong thing. So that probably did mean a 189 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: lot to a lot of people who. 190 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: Like, why does anybody talk about about this? So good 191 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 5: for you. I should be proud of yourself. 192 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: So to anybody out there dating a widower or a widow, 193 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: do you know there's a difference widowers or men and 194 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: widows or women? Really that was a long pause we're 195 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: about I was thinking. 196 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: About what I have called people. You don't call a 197 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: woman a widower, she's a widow, she's the widow. Why 198 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: does that sound sort of like. 199 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: Like, well, female male widow actor? Actress later say actor, Now, 200 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 4: well then maybe we progressed and it's just widow or widow, which. 201 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: My pause was I was trying to like, but then 202 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't really use that word often, so 203 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what I say. 204 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 4: I didn't know either until I started dating him. 205 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 5: Did you google it? 206 00:08:59,559 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 2: Like? 207 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: What do I? 208 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: Well, he just started calling he called himself a widower 209 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: and then yeah, I think at one point I looked 210 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: it up and saw that widower man, widow woman. 211 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: Interesting. All right, well thanks for that. 212 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: So but dating a widower and the emotions that come 213 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: with that sometimes. I was crying earlier today talking to 214 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Cat about something, and I'm in a quote. Cat, Now 215 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: this is the quote of the day, She replied back 216 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: to me. Good news is your eyebrows held up through 217 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: the cry? 218 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: They did? 219 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're if you're new here, I lasered 220 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: off my microbladed eyebrows and I've been drawing them on 221 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: and it takes me about ten minutes a day per 222 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: brow and they still look I'm getting faster, no total total. 223 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: Well, they looked perfect, so you should be. 224 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: I don't know that's faked, but well they look Also. 225 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: I think it's good. 226 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: It's funny that you were like, your brows survived the 227 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: cry when crying is from the eyes down. 228 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how you guys cry. But when 229 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: I cry, I'm like, oh, and I like rubbing my 230 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: face I have. 231 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: I think I still have probably a makeup on my 232 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: sleeve because I was like doing this. 233 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: You probably did a very like dainty cry. Is that 234 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: what it was like? 235 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: Cry? 236 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: Like, I think I still have streaks in my makeup 237 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: or whatever work. 238 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: If there is wetness, I could see it get in 239 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 5: my eyebrow. I'm an ugly anyway. 240 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: Quote of the day, Yeah, quote me, Yeah, quote Kat 241 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: good news. Is your eyebrows held up through the cry? Okay, 242 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: so Shannon did a little researcher. Widow is a woman 243 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: whose husband has died, while a widower is a man 244 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: whose wife has died. 245 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: She's confirming yes. 246 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Both terms are used to describe someone who has lost 247 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: their spouse through death and has typically not remarried. Well, 248 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: so you no longer If Alex and I get married, 249 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: is he no longer? He wouldn't be a widower anymore, 250 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: because now he's. 251 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: No longer a husband, but he still is though he is. 252 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: But I'm alive if I marry him. 253 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: That means and at one time he was. 254 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: Okay, he was a widower and now he's a husband. 255 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Okay, we can we call it he's a wedded widower? 256 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: Why? 257 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 4: Okay, Shanon's got it. Remarriage. 258 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: While the terms are usually used when a person is 259 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: not remarried, a woman who remarries is no longer referred 260 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: to as a widow. Similarly, a man who remarries is 261 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: no longer considered a widow or the more you know. 262 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 4: These are the fact. 263 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: The more you know. Now, now you guys know how 264 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: to go into those kinds of conversations prepared. Yeah, now 265 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: you know. 266 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Kat, I need to know. Did you watch Body 267 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: in the Snow? 268 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: I was waiting for you to ask me this. I 269 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: watched it and Patrick watched it. Disclaimer This is a 270 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: spoiler alert for anybody who has not watched this and 271 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: wants to watch Body in the Snow, which is a 272 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: documentary on what was on Matt Max. Okay, it's Karen Reid. 273 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: By the way, we didn't know if it was red 274 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: or read. 275 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's read. 276 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 5: Okay, so I can free right now that I gave 277 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: the spoiler alert. I wait, am I gonna say what 278 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 5: I think? 279 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 280 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: Okay, because I do not know what you say. 281 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: At the same time, Sure. 282 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna say guilty or not guilty? Okay, one, two three? 283 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't you think he's guilty guilty? Oh? My really? Yes? 284 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: Really yes. Also, she is not a likable person in 285 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: that documentary. There's no likability. 286 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to figure out what I would be 287 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: like if I was you. 288 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Would not be on trial for allegedly murdering my boyfriend. 289 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, I probably wouldn't act like she's acting. 290 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: You wouldn't. But also she's from Boston, so I don't 291 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: I know, personalities are different. And she did say something 292 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: in the very beginning where she was like, I don't 293 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: like talking about this because no matter how I answer questions, 294 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: people are going to pick apart my answer the way 295 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: they want it to be. So if I smile, it 296 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: means this, But if I don't smile, it also means this. 297 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: So I can't do anything right. So I get that, 298 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: and it must be really hard. I was also wondering 299 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: did they know they were going to make a documentary 300 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: about this trial before the trial, because why did. 301 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 5: They film that? 302 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe, I'm not sure I was. 303 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: I was curious because they were they filmed it while 304 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: the trial was happening. I just thought that I've never 305 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,479 Speaker 2: seen something like that where. 306 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: You get this like usually like inside, look at what's 307 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: happening from the get go. 308 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, these are my thoughts. She Turtleman, you know, 309 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Turtle Boy. Interesting part of the show. 310 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: People are way too invested with her fans, like the 311 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: fanfare of it all very strange. I actually, for the 312 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: first two episodes thought that she wasn't guilty. And I 313 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: don't know if it's the evidence that I believe that 314 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: proves it was her. The evidence isn't that strong. It's 315 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: the vibe. 316 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just don't think someone can be guilty 317 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: because of their vibe. 318 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 5: Well that's my opinion, right, you put me on the jury. 319 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 5: She is guilty. 320 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: You put me on the jury, and I'm like, whoever 321 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: spoke last? And I'm like yeah, yeah, I'm like wow, okay, 322 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: because every time like her guy would speak, I'd be like, oh, man. 323 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: Got him, got him? 324 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, wow's good. 325 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's good. 326 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, she's innocent, and then the other 327 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: people would speak and I would be like, oh my gosh, 328 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: she did it. 329 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: But that prosecutor, I know some help. 330 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: If I was on the jury, I don't think I would. 331 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: I think I would say, I don't know. 332 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't. It's not definitive enough for me to put 333 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: her in jail for the rest of her life. But 334 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: since I'm not on the jury, I feel more freedom 335 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: and sane. I think she did it okay, which is 336 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: it's a mistrial. 337 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: But we'll keep we'll talking about it in case people 338 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: want to watch it and they fast forward a little bit. 339 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: Hey, we're done talking about body in the snow. 340 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we're done. You can listen to us now, 341 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: mm hmm. 342 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Hello, hello, hello, Yeah, but you gave your verdict, and really, honestly, 343 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm dead serious about mine. I'm telling you is why 344 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: I can't be on a jury. You don't if you 345 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: did something you do not want me. 346 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: You'd be the person that makes the jury a hung jury. 347 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we'd be in deliberation for like a long time. 348 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like, book your hotel rooms, people, we're gonna 349 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: be here a while. 350 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 4: Can we get some snacks? 351 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 5: How long do you get do you know? 352 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Like? 353 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: How long does a jury get until it's a hung dury? 354 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 355 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I get that information, we get 356 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: that thanks got our fact checker over there. 357 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 4: So wait, you got scammed somehow. 358 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you brought this up. 359 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: I got scammed. 360 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: The one who's been looking out for your scamming got god. 361 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: Yes, if you are laying on top of this, how 362 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: did you get got? 363 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: So? You know last week I told you that your 364 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: eyeball was as big as a tangerine or a clementine. 365 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I even supported that because I'm like, yeah, 366 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: I've heard, but I feel like it is well. 367 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: I was telling I was telling everybody this fact. I 368 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: posted on my Instagram. I was telling girls at work, 369 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: so it's the scam. Well. So one of my therapists 370 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: at work was like, that doesn't feel right, and I 371 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: was like, no, this lady that I took her training, 372 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: she told me. She even brought an orange to show 373 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: me how big an eyeball was. That's how convinced she 374 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: was that the eyeball was that big. 375 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Okay, but an orange is one size, and then a tangerine. 376 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: There can be tangerines that are size of a ping 377 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: bong ball, and nur as is the size of a 378 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: ping pong ball. 379 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: She brought like a b Okay, are you talking about 380 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: a bing bong ball? Or a ping pong ball, I said. 381 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: I said, I said a ping pong ball? What a 382 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: ping pong ball? 383 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,359 Speaker 5: Stop? Say slow down a ping. 384 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: I have tangerines in my fridge right now that are 385 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: the size. 386 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: Of a ping pong ball. 387 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 5: Why I want you to breathe and then say ping 388 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 5: pong ball. 389 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: It's just because I put emphasis probably on pong okay, 390 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: ping pong pong ball. 391 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: Put it together, ping pong ball, perfect, ping pong ball. 392 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: I thought you were saying ping pong ball. 393 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm saying ping pong ball. 394 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm not trying to shame the way you 395 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: talk about. Sorry, keep going. Oh so anybody somebody was like, cat, 396 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 2: that's not true, and I was like, yeah, it is, 397 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: And so I went to Google because I was gonna 398 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: prove it. 399 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 400 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: It's the size of it is the size of a 401 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: ping pong ball, A ping pong ball in a clementine 402 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: orange are not the same. She brought an orange that 403 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: like a clementine that. 404 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 5: Was like a little cutie. 405 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: It's at least double the size of a can we 406 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: get the size of a clementine orange. I think that 407 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: they they vary. There are some that she brought. But 408 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: my point is she brought a big one. She brought 409 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: one that was not the size of a bing bong ball, 410 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: So then you're a long. She brought like a naval orange. No, no, 411 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: she brought a clementine, but it was double the size 412 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: of a ping pong heay. 413 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: Well, she just picked up a big one. But I 414 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: do think they have smaller ones. 415 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: My point is if she thought that the eyeball was 416 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: the size of a ping pong ball, she would have 417 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: brought us a ping pong ball. She was saying, the 418 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: eyeball is huge. It's bigger than you thought it was. 419 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: This is how big it right? Right? 420 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 4: Okay? 421 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: So I believed her because she's I went to her training. 422 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 5: I trusted her. I was paying her a lot of money, 423 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 5: and she got me. 424 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: So do you think she meant after you peel it, 425 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: because sometimes when you remove the skin, what's actually left 426 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: is smaller. 427 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: If she thought it was after you peeled it, then 428 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: she would have said, your eyeball is the size of 429 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: a clementine after you peel it, okay, or she would 430 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: have just. 431 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 5: Okay. 432 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: So clementines are small, such as fruits, generally about two 433 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: inches in diameter. 434 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 5: So double the size because a. 435 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: Ping pong ball it was like one inch, right. 436 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 5: It's one yeah. 437 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know if she meant I think 438 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: she really thinks that. So I don't know who told 439 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: her that, But I learned a lesson that I even 440 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: if I learned something from a trusted person, I should 441 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: really critically think about it before I put it on 442 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: a podcast. 443 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: Or that's why we fact check everything here. 444 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: We're going to start now. We should have like you 445 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: know you do. 446 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: I'm about to tell you how long a juror has okay, 447 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 4: but or a. 448 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: Jury you know how on Armchair Expert they do fact 449 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: check at the end of every episode episode. We should 450 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: allow ourselves that grace because sometimes we say things and 451 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: I wanted the chance to clear this up. Thank you 452 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: guys for being with me on this Clementine journey. Yeah, 453 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: we might have to start fact checking. 454 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: You're welcome. 455 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: Although I think size of this very but she did 456 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: have one there as a demo that was too big. 457 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 5: You really want her to because have. 458 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: You ever seen sometimes at Chipotle do you go did 459 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Chipotle get the kid's meal and it comes with a 460 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: fruit cup or a bagg of chips and you get 461 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: fruit cup and it's a little teeny tiny orange that 462 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: fits in the cup. 463 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: It's it's the size of a ping bob pole. 464 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: But my point with that is that's not the size 465 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: she brought us. 466 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I know, but if you were then saying that online, 467 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that you sounded that offze. It's not 468 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: like you were online holding a big orange would be like, 469 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: this is. 470 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: The size of you're kind of finding me. 471 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm saying, like, I don't think you you 472 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: came off as a scammer moron. 473 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well you weren't trying to. 474 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 5: I didn't feel like I was a moron. 475 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: It was more so like I got got like I 476 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: was a gullible and I should have thought more critically 477 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: about that. So I will now be thinking more critically 478 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: with Google before I share those kinds of facts. 479 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 480 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: So, speaking of Google and Shannon, thank you. Now we 481 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: know there is no fixed time for a jury. There's 482 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: no specific number of hours or days after which a 483 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: jury automatically becomes a hung jury. The judge ultimately decides 484 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: if the jury is deadlocked, and further deliberation won't lead 485 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: to a verdict, which you did see at the end 486 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: of the documentary won't say exactly what the judge says, 487 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: but I watched that part twice actually, because I was like, wait, 488 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: what are the judge just said? 489 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm not going to do that to y'all. 490 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So can I be honest about something? What I 491 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: don't think I saw like the last twenty minutes. 492 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 4: And you didn't see the last twenty minutes, and you're 493 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: saying she's guilty. 494 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I fell asleep, and then I I Patrick said 495 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: you didn't see the last twenty minutes, and I was like, 496 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: I think I got it, So maybe. 497 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 5: I'll go back and watch that far. 498 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that either one of 499 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 4: us would be good on a jury. 500 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 5: Your hair looks good today. 501 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: Why what I do? Does it because I crimped. 502 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: It or I did the I had that Little Mermaid 503 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: the three prong or it's called three barrel clamper. 504 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: I was just trying to give you a compliment. Oh 505 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: and you were one of the why So I read 506 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: this article from Psychology Today last weekend, and it was 507 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: talking about why flattery is so difficult for women specifically 508 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: to consume. So I was seeing how you were when 509 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: you took compliments and you that was me? 510 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Why, Yeah, that's pretty much what I do. So, oh, 511 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: your makeup looks good? Why or you'd be like, oh no, 512 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: or I like your outfit. 513 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 5: Why is that what you usually say? 514 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: Why? 515 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 5: I don't really know I got it on sale or this? 516 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: Well, I've had it forever. I always say if somebody 517 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: says I like your shirt, oh thanks, it was unclear 518 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: into his five dollars. 519 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 5: Like sometimes I say. 520 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: That even if it wasn't on sale. 521 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Why. 522 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: I don't know. 523 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 4: What a weird thing? 524 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: I think sometimes I have to have like. 525 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: It in a bad way, but like it's just that's 526 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: an odd Uh. 527 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: I know, I'm a liar. I'm a liar now, I 528 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 5: think I get so. 529 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: I don't think you're a liar. That's a lie. If 530 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: I didn't get on sale, I told you I got 531 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: it on sale, that's a lie. I'm a liar. 532 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is weirdy weird liar. 533 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: So I think I do that because I don't know 534 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: how to just receive that. It just like feels like 535 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: that can't be true. In this article confirmed that it 536 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: was talking about how it brings about this thing called 537 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance. 538 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, I say, I think two things. 539 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Are not able to like sit in our brain, right, 540 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: I believe like if I think my outfit's ugly, or 541 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: if I think that I can't dress well, or if 542 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: I have some negative belief about me and what I 543 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: look like. 544 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 5: Or your hair. 545 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: Do you have some thoughts about your hair lately? 546 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like it's a little frizzy. 547 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, so exactly, So you can't receive that because 548 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: it goes against what I'm already believing. 549 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so if there's a disconnect. 550 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think also they were saying that paired 551 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: with women are taught to be like modest and not 552 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: to be like boastful, so we don't also want to 553 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: accept that because it feels like almost like prideful. We 554 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: need to be more humble. 555 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: Oh that's you're just trying to be humble. Thanks, got 556 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: it on sale. 557 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: I think that's part of it, Like, oh, I can't 558 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: be like, oh, I know I love it. Like what 559 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: if you said if I say I like your hair 560 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: and you were like, I know I love it today? 561 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 5: That would feel weird, right, Yeah, I can. 562 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: Hear it depends on the day or the outfit, because 563 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: like I was at iHeart country festival the other night, 564 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: and I was obsessed with my outfit, like. 565 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: I loved it. 566 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I loved it, and so yeah, when people will compliment, 567 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: I would say, thank you so much. 568 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: Ay, although a few people. 569 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Were like, it looks like you maybe need to get 570 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: some mothballs because like a moth. 571 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: Was eating at your car. 572 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 5: Was it a guy that said that? 573 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: Multiple men? 574 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, y' all circulating the mothball joke like around backstage. 575 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: But that's some I feel like my dad would always 576 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: say if you had jeans with holes in him, he'd like, 577 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: did you pay extra for those holes? That's such a dad, 578 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: And you're like, he still will say it, Yeah I did. 579 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: If he saw a picture, I'll show him a I'm 580 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: gonna send him a picture of your outfit and see 581 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: what he says. Okay, oh, say I wonder if she 582 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 2: paid extra for those holes? 583 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I did. 584 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: Can you tell him she did so? 585 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: But I did feel confident that night in my outfit. 586 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: I didn't so much love. My hair was like this too. 587 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: I don't know why I keep doing this way, but 588 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: it felt a little frizzy to me, and I was 589 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: feeling a little self. 590 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 5: I loved you, I told you. I liked your hair 591 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: in the high pony. 592 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, good job. I'm a quick learner. 593 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I have some tips for how to accept compliments. 594 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: But I thought this was very interesting from this article. 595 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: And also I want to mention this article was written 596 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: by Lindsay Goodwin. So thank you Lindsay for this article. 597 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. 598 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: She's a PhD. 599 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 5: She is a doctor. 600 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: I only see that here in the notes. I don't 601 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: have no idea what this is. I just see the headline, 602 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: and I had no idea you were about to compliment 603 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: me or you needed that. 604 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 4: You were like, that was your intro into this. Because 605 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: I have no idea why. I was like. 606 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: Why, I think you were thrown off because I randomly 607 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: said that. 608 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: So just some insider baseball is Kat and I. We 609 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: have our little iPads here, which we're obsessed with. We 610 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: love that we got like iPads, don't you feel more professional? 611 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: Yes? I tried to use this iPad at work because 612 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: I got the pencil thing and I thought this would 613 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: be a great thing to take notes with because I 614 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: felt like I would feel so like, oh let me 615 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: get my notes out. It's a little distracting it's too loud. 616 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: It's loud, and I feel like this is too professional. 617 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: For it feels like linical. 618 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, as and you want to be like a 619 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: warm suppose vibe yeah, not clinician. 620 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I get that. 621 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: So anyway, we have our nifty little iPads and we 622 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: have a Google doc and Cat and I both add 623 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: to it, so like we'll have the date of the 624 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: episode and we'll just throw in like headlines or things 625 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: like all I see here is like how I knew 626 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: to say, Cat, you got scammed? All I see here 627 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: is Cat got scammed. But I had no idea what 628 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: it was about. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's and and 629 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: and my color is blue, and Cat's color is purple. 630 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 5: And wait, what's green? Oh that's Shannon. 631 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: Shannon's green. 632 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: So while we're talking, Shannon's over there, you know, looking 633 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: up things like the size of clementines, so that we can, 634 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: you know, teach you things here. We're trying to educate you. 635 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: Did you make purple my color? Because purple's my favorite color? Yeah? 636 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: Thanks? 637 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: Okay, back to the facts. I thought this was very 638 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: interesting before I give you the tips. It was talking 639 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: about how well a study found that women deflected or 640 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: minimized compliments from men sixty percent of the time when 641 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 2: the compliment winner was a woman. I'm going to ask 642 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: you this, since you haven't read this, do you think 643 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: they rejected it more or less if it was from 644 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: So when a compliment was given by a man to 645 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: a woman, the women rejected the compliment sixty percent of 646 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: the time when the compliment was given by a woman 647 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: to a woman. How often do you think they do 648 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: you think it was higher like one hundred percent, seventy 649 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: eight percent? 650 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: Okay, isn't that crazy? 651 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: Why? 652 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: I don't know why. It's maybe just because women in 653 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: general are more likely to feel like they need to 654 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: be modest. 655 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 5: I guess a woman a woman. 656 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: But I found that was very interesting that I'm going 657 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: to accept it from Maybe we feel like we can 658 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: be more honest with women, like I don't know, yeah, 659 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: how I just thought it was an interesting fact. 660 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: We're safe, feel more safe. 661 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to give you three tips to 662 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: accept compliments because I know that I can use these, 663 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: and it. 664 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 5: Sounds like you can't. 665 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 4: I definitely can. 666 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: And she said, why it matters? Accepting compliments isn't just 667 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: about boosting your ego. It's about fostering connection, which to 668 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: that it is when you give somebody a compliment. I'm like, 669 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you did such a good job on 670 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: that report that you gave in school. That's okay, let 671 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: me start off. Was that a compliment to me? I 672 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: don't know where I was going with that. Let me 673 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: try again. 674 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 4: Okay, try again. 675 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you did so good hosting I heeart 676 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: this weekend. 677 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: You were just because I wasn't technically Howstbobby was. I 678 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: was just there doing I mean I I did some 679 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: things on Hulu and then I did. 680 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: Some radio stuff, but yeah, he was the host. So 681 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: you're already giving me I did a couple of stage hits. 682 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 5: Can I finish my compliment? 683 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're playing. 684 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: You know. 685 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 5: It's what you did there good. 686 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: I know exactly what I was doing there. Yeah, I 687 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: was just letting you know. 688 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: You really don't want to accept my complimentage, Okay, thank you. 689 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: So when you do that, it creates like a disconnect 690 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: between somebody I'm trying to connect with you saying like, 691 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I saw some clips that you posted. 692 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: You look like you said such a good job. 693 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: Thank you. 694 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: Okay, if you're like, oh my gosh, it was horrible 695 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, that is like, okay, never mind, So 696 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to connect with you. And a lot of 697 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: times when people give compliments, whether or not they mean 698 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: them or not, it's a point of connection to start 699 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: a conversation. 700 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: There are actually tips that people will give, like. 701 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: Small talk experts or just relationship experts in general say, 702 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: start with something common. You can go up and share 703 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: a positive note to somebody to start a conversation. 704 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: So when we. 705 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: Don't accept it or receive it, we're robbing them of 706 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity to connect with us and in ourselves too. Yeah. 707 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: So imagine somebody new comes up to you and it's like, 708 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, girl, I love your jacket, and you're like, oh, 709 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: that's so ugly. Now where do we go? Yeah, like 710 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: never mind. So just be open to conversation is a 711 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: huge part of that. So why it matters. It's a 712 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: way to connect with people. When we brush them off, 713 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: we dis miss the other person's thoughts, and learning to 714 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: accept praise can rewrite those negative stories in our head. 715 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: So if I think like, oh I don't know how 716 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: to dress, I have such bad style. Well, the more 717 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: we deflect the compliments, the more we're gonna make that 718 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: story true. The more we accept it, we're like, oh, she. 719 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: Likes my outfit. She likes my outfit. 720 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: She likes my outfit. 721 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: Maybe I know how to dress. 722 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: My outfit is awesome. I've been trying to read write 723 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: that story in my head. In the morning is when 724 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for work. I've been saying over and 725 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: over because I don't feel like I get dressed with ease, 726 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: and I don't I want to be like a little 727 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: more creative with my outfits, and I just feel like 728 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how to put things together the way 729 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: that I would like. So in the mornings, right when 730 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: I I start this little mantra, like I go down 731 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: the kitchen, I make my coffee, and I'm like, I 732 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: put on my clothes with these. I put on my 733 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: clothes with these. 734 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 4: I go into my closet and it is so easy 735 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: for me to fake out clothes. 736 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: I go, you know, I just do that, keep going, yeah, 737 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: that I am creative with my clothes. 738 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: And then I put on a tan top jeans. 739 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say, that's so interesting because I 740 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: was actually talking to Patrick about I was like, I 741 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: feel like Amy always has something cute on on my record, 742 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: and I never know what to wear. So I was 743 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: complimenting you without you around. But it's just interesting that 744 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: you think that, but I think the opposite. 745 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: Oh see, I think you look cute and I love 746 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 4: your headband. 747 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 5: Thinks I'm trying something new. I accepted you did it good? 748 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were like, thanks, I got it on sale, 749 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: just kidding. 750 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: I paid full price, so, to be honest, the only 751 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: reason I bought it is because it wasn't sale. Yeah, 752 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: that's not a lie. I told kat that earlier. Just 753 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: because you told her that earlier doesn't make it. 754 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 5: It was target was to sale. Prove check it. I'll 755 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 5: show you my receipt. 756 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, receipt or it didn't happen, Okay, I'll show 757 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: it to you later. 758 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: That's so funny that that's like your lie. 759 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't think I always lie, but I've just caught 760 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: myself before, and I'm like, why did I just tell 761 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: my God, I. 762 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: Don't know. 763 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: I'd be like, no, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding. 764 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: I don't know why I said that. I'm a liar. 765 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: They were like okay, like not looking for connection with 766 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: you anymore, that's for sure. 767 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: I don't want people to think that I lie to them. 768 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: In general, I get it like it's a you're trying, 769 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: it's you're uncomfortable. 770 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: I will never do it again saying it. 771 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. 772 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: So do you want three tips to accept compliments? Yes? Okay. 773 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: The first one, just say thank you and pause. Okay, 774 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: so thank you and then in your head say paus pause, pause, pause, pause. 775 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: I can imagine people going thank you pause, like they 776 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: say that part out loud. 777 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: Okay, so just think you pause? 778 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Why because this allows the other person to now connect 779 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: with you more. 780 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 2: Well, I think that is a like an addition to 781 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: what it brings, because if I'm not feeling that space 782 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: and they can be like where did you get it? 783 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: Or they can add something else to whatever compliment they're 784 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: giving you. But the pause really is and why I said, 785 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: say it in your brain, it's removing that instinct to 786 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: give the disclaimer. So oh, like, let's if it wasn't 787 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: about my outfit. You did really great on your report 788 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: that you gave in class. Oh no, I messed up. 789 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 5: I forgot this whole part and blah blah blah blah 790 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: blah blah. 791 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: You go on and on and on and on and on and 792 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: on when you don't have to do that, so it 793 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: takes that spot away. 794 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: Oh I have an example too of sometimes we I 795 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: don't know if this is related at all. 796 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 5: Okay, let's see, we'll see. 797 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to my brain. 798 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: But how sometimes we make things about us when it's 799 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: not about us. Where because it is related? Because someone 800 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: was trying to give me a compliment saying I did 801 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: something well well, and this was actually at iHeart. I 802 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: was doing this hit for Hulu because it's streaming live 803 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: on Hulu, and we do artist interviews backstage, and it's 804 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: really chaotic back there. It's loud, there's a lot going on. 805 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: You have a teleprompter and there's sometimes you have to 806 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: vamp and what's vamp like a they call it an accordion, 807 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: uh segment, But you vamp for however long, maybe thirty seconds, 808 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: like you just have to talk talk talk. There's nothing 809 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: on the teleprompter. It's like what was on the prompter 810 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: with sixty seconds. But now the truck, so the trucks 811 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: are outside, you know, like news trucks where they like 812 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: do all the editing and streaming, so the Hulu truck 813 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: was outside, so they say, the guys in the truck say, 814 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: now we need thirty more seconds, so you need to 815 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: just vamp, or you need we need sixty more seconds, 816 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: or sometimes even god forbid, two minutes, which feels like 817 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: eternity in vamp world. So you know going into it 818 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: that you may have an accordion section, so you kind 819 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: of have some stories in your mind. 820 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: But there was a. 821 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: Situation where he was setting holding up his iPad with 822 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: thirty more seconds, but he put it to the right 823 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 1: of the camera and when really under the camera would 824 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: have been an easier spot for me to see, so 825 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't see. Otherwise I'm like gazing off camera, and 826 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: I kind of thought the vamping was over and it wasn't, 827 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: so then I had to keep going and I was 828 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: stumbling my words. 829 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 4: Whatever. 830 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: Well, when we got done, the guy with the headset 831 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: he was listening to the truck and I saw him 832 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: make some face and I instantly was like, oh, I suck. 833 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 4: I didn't handle that. 834 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: Well, like I messed up, and that he made this 835 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: face and da da dah. Well, then my girl, Elizabeth, 836 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: you know Buzzio she sent me a text when I 837 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: like twelve hours later, because I guess she talked to 838 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: some people and she said, hey, by the way, I 839 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: know you got real worked up, but I got worked up, 840 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: and I let it almost impact my performance for the 841 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: rest of the night because of his face. And I'm like, no, no, 842 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: I saw his face, like they're disappointed. That was horrible. 843 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: And she said that the truck had said something completely 844 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: different to him, it had nothing to do with me, 845 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: and he made the face, and he also was mad 846 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: at himself for putting it to the side and not underneath, 847 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: and like the truck sent a whole apology to Elizabeth 848 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: to forward to me, and they said, let Amy know 849 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: that was one hundred percent our fault and we take responsibility. 850 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: And but it did sort of derail some of my 851 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: performance the rest of the night because and I'm reading 852 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: a prompter on the main stage, and if you start 853 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: to get nervous, fumbled, and you're all in your head, 854 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: you're more likely to mess up more. So I had 855 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: to like really use the power of thought to like 856 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: push that face that he made out of my brain. 857 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: But the rest of the night I definitely still thought 858 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: it was about me. Until twelve hours later when she 859 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: texted me and she was like, Amy, that had nothing 860 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: to do with you, And I was like, oh, well. 861 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 4: Gosh darn it, I made it about I made it 862 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 4: about me. 863 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: And so it's just a reminder to like, don't make 864 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: up stories, right, you know, we talk about that part, 865 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: but then also receive the compliment, because at the time 866 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Elizabeth is like standing side shage. She's like, I saw 867 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing you did great, but I was so 868 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: worked up about his face that I couldn't receive her compliment. 869 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: So this is going to tie into another one of 870 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 5: our tips. 871 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 4: Boom see, I knew, thank you. I knew it was relatable. 872 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: So consider the evidence is a second tip. When you 873 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 2: want to downplay the compliment, take a second and consider 874 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: the evidence. People with lower self esteem, or if you 875 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: just are like anxious or have low self esteem about 876 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: one thing, self conscious about one thing, they tend to 877 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: paint themselves with a broad stroke brush, which is like 878 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 2: all or nothing, black and white thinking. So when Sony 879 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 2: gives you a compliment about something, consider the evidence for 880 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: that compliment versus. 881 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 5: The evidence against it. 882 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: So you were thinking about all the negative stuff versus wait, 883 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: considering all the circumstances, I did a pretty good job 884 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 2: with what I was vamping, vamping if I had to vamp. 885 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you say filibuster when we're recording, I'm like, 886 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: I have nothing in my brain, Like it just goes blank. 887 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: So I definitely fumbled, But I mean I think that's 888 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: to be expected. And a lot they're like, look, you 889 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: had to like juggle, you handled it well, but I 890 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: couldn't receive that. 891 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 4: But I feel like you always handle it well. 892 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: Well. 893 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: Thank you you yeah, post post post pust pause, You're welcome. 894 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 895 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 5: The last tip is revisit your compliments later. I thought 896 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 5: this was interesting. 897 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: Like with yourself, bear with me, this feels weird. 898 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: Maybe keep a compliment journal. No way, so see it 899 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: feels so wrong, but this is why it's not. 900 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 5: Be open. 901 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: I need you to be open. 902 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 5: Can you just give me an open? 903 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: Thank you give me an open You're giving me bad 904 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: body language. Be open. 905 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: Cry Okat's like I'm I'm gonna tattoo the ma my body. 906 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: Cat is like, can you actually send me some compliments 907 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: later so I can put them in my journal? 908 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: The thing is words of words of affirmation. Is that's 909 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: my love language like, I like words of affirmation. 910 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 5: Why is it weird for you to give them to yourself? 911 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: Well, you weren't saying that. 912 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: I thought you were saying, keep a compliment journal of 913 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: compliment you've heard from other people? 914 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 5: Why is that bad? 915 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 1: What I'm not saying it's bad. If somebody else wants 916 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: to do it, I love that for them. I don't 917 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: see myself at night being like, huh, today Kat saying 918 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: my report. 919 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: My hair looked pretty. So this is gonna help me? 920 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: Okay, fine, I need to do it because I think 921 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: I have I don't know that I have low self esteem, 922 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: but it's it can dabble down there. 923 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: I can dabble in the low self esteem. It can hang. 924 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 4: Low at times, but I've really been working on it 925 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 4: so well. 926 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: We all have things that were self conscious of, yeah, 927 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: and all the things that we're insecure about. So I 928 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: guess I was being on a little bit judgmental of you. 929 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: What makes you so off put by the idea of 930 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 2: a compliment journal? 931 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: Will you want me to take inventory of compliments I 932 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: received throughout the day and you want me to write 933 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: them down at night? That just does not sound like 934 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 1: something I could do. But I will try what's off putting, 935 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: it feels weird, it feels wrong, it feels wrong, and 936 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: self adulger. 937 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that is what what are you trying 938 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 2: to say? Yeah, okay, So that speaks to the beginning 939 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: of this article is talking about how women were taught 940 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: to downplay their success and we're taught to be humble. 941 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: We're taught to like not be self indungent, indulgent, and 942 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: to accept a compliment that feels the opposite. So this 943 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: is retraining your brain to one be able to receive that. No, 944 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: it's okay for me to like know that people think 945 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: this about me. Also, it's okay if I think this 946 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: is a this about me. But outside of that part, 947 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: it's good for you to see that because when we 948 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: neglect them, even when we're doing the pause thing and 949 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: our brain we might still be like no, pause no, like, 950 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: we might still also be having. 951 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 5: That war in our brain. 952 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: So if we're writing them down and we are your words, 953 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: taking inventory of them, it gives us a chance to 954 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: let that sink in and then we get to if 955 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: we're having Okay, the best gift I ever received you Actually, well, 956 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this because you asked us at 957 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: a dinner party months ago when I met Alex. We 958 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: did conversation cards and one of the questions you asked 959 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 2: us what's the best gift you ever received? And I froze. 960 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: It almost was like I was feeling you're asking me 961 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: to vamp. I froze and I said. 962 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 5: Do you remember what I said? 963 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. 964 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm stuck on what Gracie said, because Gracie and Rudin 965 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: was there too, and that's when we learned that Gracie 966 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: was the high school mascot. 967 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 2: And that's when I learned that Patrick was his mascot. 968 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know that he had so cats. 969 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: Husband and Gracie were both the high school mascot, So 970 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: then I don't that's the That's my big takeaway from 971 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: that night is the story Gracie. 972 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 4: I know, hilarious, So we'll revisit that later. But so now, 973 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 4: I don't remember your answer to your question. 974 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 2: I said this journal that my mom and dad thought 975 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: me the invisible one that had invisible black light pen 976 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 2: that was my which that gift was cool. 977 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: I feel like that is cool, but. 978 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 5: My favorite gift, I know. 979 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: I don't know why I didn't think this My favorite 980 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 2: gift I know it is, and that's why I ended 981 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 2: up giving it to you. Was my sister gave me 982 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: a blessing jar. This is my birthday, right after I 983 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: went through a really bad breakup where I was like 984 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: knocking out of bed. I cried every day, and she 985 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: had all my best friends write down ways that I'm 986 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: a blessing to them in their life, and then she 987 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 2: put them in a jar and we went to dinner. 988 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: She gave it to me, and I was a puddle 989 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: of tears, but like happy, grateful tears, and that blessing 990 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: jar I still have. 991 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 5: I keep it in my bathroom. I don't read them 992 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 5: all the time. 993 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: I used to every once in a while when I 994 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: was still trying to build myself back up in that 995 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: time would read like one a day, and that helped 996 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: me build my self esteem back up after I'd gone 997 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: through this horrible, horrible experience. And I still have it 998 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 2: because I think it's okay for me to acknowledge how 999 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: other people view me in a positive way. 1000 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: Yes, and I love that you gave me that too. 1001 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: I love my blessing jar. I have it in my 1002 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: closet so when i's just nice to know it's struggling 1003 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: to get dressed. I do care it in my closet. 1004 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: It's in a little like a nook area with like 1005 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: jewelry and whatnot. But I have my blessing jar, and 1006 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: I think that's great. That's notes coming from other people. 1007 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: I think it was just me documenting at the end 1008 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: of the day, writing it down. But I do get 1009 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: the whole exercise. It's kind of even different. We're gonna 1010 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: have to agree to disagree on this. Listen, I'll do 1011 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: this activity for you, this assignment, or I'll try it. 1012 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: But then this is one of the things. If something 1013 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: happens to me, you burn it. I cannot have someone 1014 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: finding my journal of. 1015 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: Me writing down all the compliments. 1016 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: Can you imagine on it there's like a documentary about 1017 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 2: your life. And they're like, And when we went through 1018 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: a closet, we found a journal where she wrote every. 1019 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 3: Compliment anybody ever gave her. Cat said I had beautiful 1020 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 3: hair today. The other cat told me that I looked 1021 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 3: good on camera during the Country Croc post, Shannon told me, 1022 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 3: and that's all it was. 1023 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I. 1024 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 2: Don't think that would be negative. I think people are like, 1025 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: she must have been working on her mental Yeah. 1026 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna think that for sure, just on this podcast. 1027 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: Then they'll know this is what she was doing. It 1028 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: was an assignment, or maybe I put that at the 1029 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: beginning of the journal. This is an assignment from Kat. 1030 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. I hate this. If 1031 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: anybody finds this, this is homework for my mental health, sincerely, Amy. 1032 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 2: If that gets you to do it, I'm fine, perfect, Yeah, Okay, I. 1033 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 5: Can get it. 1034 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: Shannon said that keeping birthday cards or notes from family 1035 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: and friends that say something nice, if you keep those around. 1036 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 2: Then you reread them and. 1037 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: You come across them, and that can be very helpful 1038 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: for Yeah, so it's sort of the same thing as 1039 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: like the blessing jar. 1040 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 5: But y'all, do you keep your cards? 1041 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1042 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: I have a shoe box full of some of them, Yeah, 1043 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: like from way of them. Some I don't know what 1044 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 1: determines when I keep it or when I don't. 1045 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 2: I wonder if any of my cards are in there. 1046 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 2: Probably I probably haven't even given you a card. I 1047 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 2: and notoriously don't put cards in gifts. 1048 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Cat loves cards. 1049 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 5: I like getting them. 1050 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: The other cry ocat Sometimes I'm like, oh a card. Yeah, 1051 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: y'all need different names. Therapy cat, cryocat, that's what I 1052 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: call y'all. 1053 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: But oh she's okay, ye wait, who calls you Catherine? 1054 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 4: That's what she calls herself. 1055 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 5: Sometimes Catherine's a different person. 1056 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: She'll be like, Catherine's tired of this. 1057 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 2: Patrick calls me Catherine, and I'm like in trouble, but 1058 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't tell us more. Well, the other day, Catherine's 1059 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 2: been a bad, bad car. What do you call him? 1060 00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: Right into the. 1061 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 5: Would I call him when he's a bad boy? 1062 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: You? 1063 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 5: Dirty? 1064 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 2: Dirty Tom? No? 1065 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 4: Well, his full name he is Patrick. 1066 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: Like if if he was called pat people call him Patty, 1067 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: but I don't. 1068 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 4: Call him that, Patrick van Buren, Patrick, Thomas Patrick. 1069 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: You know what my mom called me when I got 1070 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: in trouble as a kid. 1071 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 5: What have I not told you this? 1072 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 2: Katherine Mary, Elizabeth, Francis, Sally, Brittany, Defada, get your butt down. 1073 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 4: Why are there so many middle names? 1074 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: She said one day she started adding names when she 1075 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 2: was mad at me, and that's what she would call me. 1076 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 2: And I was in trouble. 1077 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: Katherine Mary, Mary, Elizabeth, Elizabeth, Francis, Francis, Sally, Sally, Brittany, Brittany, If. 1078 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 4: Not as a mom. I can barely get like one 1079 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 4: kid's name straight. 1080 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, okay, had a lot. Maybe she'd loved me more. 1081 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 4: That is a lot. 1082 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 1: I love that. That's funny. Your mom's funny. 1083 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: Hi. 1084 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: If you're listening, Hi, Kat's Hi, Catherine, Elizabeth, Brittany, Tina Defadas. 1085 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 2: Now are you adding on? Yeah? I have a question. 1086 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: Actually this is on topic but kind of off. Have 1087 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 2: you seen that trend on TikTok that goes into like 1088 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 2: all the different names people call you? 1089 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 4: Oh no, it is, yes, I've seen great. 1090 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: So I want to know what your like nicknames are, Like, 1091 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 2: does your sister call you something? 1092 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 5: She calls you seister? 1093 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1094 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 5: Is there another name called bbb? Okay, so what are 1095 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,959 Speaker 5: all your names? 1096 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: We Bb to my sister and her kids, where does 1097 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: that come from? That's my my niece was the first 1098 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: one born, my sister's first kid. 1099 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 1100 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 4: Her middle name's Elizabeth. 1101 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: My middle name is Elizabeth, and I think like maybe 1102 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: Christy was trying to do like an Ebby thing or Elizabeth. 1103 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, bb came out with her first. I 1104 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 4: don't know if it's like not quite sure. 1105 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 5: Okay, So no real story there. 1106 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love to. 1107 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: Ask, but I think I had something to do with 1108 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 4: like Elizabeth. 1109 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 5: Okay, but BB, I love the name Elizabeth. 1110 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 4: Thanks, is that really one of yours? 1111 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 2: So? What is your real my certificate? 1112 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1113 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 5: Yes, which which of those names are on my? 1114 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 2: I know what it is? 1115 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 4: Hold on? I know your middle name? 1116 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1117 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 5: No, Mary, Well, Marie wasn't in the names that I 1118 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 5: just listed. 1119 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 2: Katherine, Mary. 1120 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 5: My sister's middle name is Marie. 1121 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're m A R y Katherine, Marie defauda No, Mary, 1122 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: that's what I meant. 1123 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you said Marie. She said Marie, But you just 1124 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 2: said Marie. 1125 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 4: I said Mary. But then no, you just said Marie. 1126 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: I know, roll back to the table. I know I did, 1127 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: but I said Mary. Alex saying you're uber and your 1128 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 2: ubber or whatever he called it uber you. 1129 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: He's like, we need to order a you buber And 1130 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you mean uber. He's like, that's what 1131 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 1: I said, so that I know, but I meant Mary. Well, 1132 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,439 Speaker 1: he met uber, but he said you were. You said okay, 1133 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: any whatever, I want. 1134 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 5: You know their names. 1135 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 2: BB. 1136 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 4: My pastor calls me Ames. 1137 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 5: That's cute. What if you made the real and you're 1138 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 5: like Aimes to my pastor. 1139 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of. 1140 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 4: Like anybody that call it, But some people call me. 1141 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 4: My boyfriend's son calls me amster. 1142 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 5: Cute the twelve year old that's cute. 1143 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be like, uh, amster. 1144 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 5: I feel like that's something that like a dad would 1145 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 5: call you two, like, hey, amster, how you doing? 1146 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 4: Growing up? My neighbor, my neighbor was Jill. 1147 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: Her mom was Susan. Our moms were friends, and she 1148 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: always called me famous amos. And I saw her when 1149 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: my cousin's mom passed away a couple of years ago. 1150 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: That's the last time I saw her was at that funeral, 1151 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: and she's still she's like, famous Amos. 1152 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 4: How's it going? Because you know there's this famous amous cookies. 1153 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 5: Yes, they're so good. 1154 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1155 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 4: So I'm trying to think that I don't know that 1156 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 4: I have any other nicknames. 1157 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 2: That's enough. That's a lot. 1158 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 5: You can make one of those reels. See if he 1159 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 5: goes viral. 1160 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 2: Who don't really? My pastor amos to my mom's friends, cousins, sisters, 1161 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 2: my neighbor, neighbor, she was ready ever growing up Because 1162 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't know that I am like 1163 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 2: what your friends in high school called you. Amy. 1164 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 5: You have a short name, so I think it's harder 1165 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 5: to have a nickname for a short name. 1166 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 4: Amsy amsy. 1167 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,439 Speaker 5: Ams is her name. 1168 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 4: To cry okat, I am princess. 1169 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 5: Wait, funny reel If you did it. 1170 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: So frantic, I know, but that would kind of be 1171 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 2: like what you called when you're making like a spoof 1172 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 2: of something to satire, it would make satire. Aims to 1173 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: my pastor, as I know. 1174 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 4: To my kids, I'm mom. 1175 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 5: What it is, But you have to make this reel? Now, 1176 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 5: this is funny. So how would I do it? I 1177 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 5: would say, from Amy to the government. 1178 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: Okay, so the government. I'm Amy to my kids, I 1179 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 1: am Mom to my sister and her kids. I'm Beattie 1180 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: to my pastor. I'm Aims. 1181 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 4: To my neighbor growing up. 1182 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 2: I just to my friend Cat, I am princess. I 1183 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: think it's funny you put it on TikTok because TikTok 1184 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want there. 1185 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 5: It's like posting stuff. Nobody cares. I think it's funny. 1186 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 4: Actually did it on TikTok because our feeling things is 1187 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 4: on TikTok. 1188 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 2: Okay okay, okay, what are yours? 1189 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 5: Mine aren't? 1190 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 2: Is good? I, well, it's debatable. 1191 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 4: They probably are better. 1192 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 2: So Catherine to some of my family, Cat to my 1193 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 2: other some of my family and friends after college Cat 1194 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 2: Catherine to Little Jesus to friends from college fraternity parties. 1195 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 2: Little that was my. 1196 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 5: Nickname in college. 1197 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 2: They called me Kitty Cat, and then they called me 1198 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 2: Little Jesus, and then it went to LJ. I that's 1199 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: what people like afratornity parties would call me. Well J. 1200 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 2: I was very religious my freshman year of college, and 1201 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: I was like the chaplain of our sorority. I was 1202 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 2: like very into Little Jesus. So I was like, why 1203 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 2: did none of the guys ever try to take me 1204 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 2: home freshman year? 1205 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 5: Probably because I. 1206 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 2: Would be called Little Jesus. 1207 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't want to think about reason my freshman 1208 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 4: child being taken home. 1209 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't mean it like that, Like why didn't 1210 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 2: the guys, why weren't they buying me drinks? Mean it 1211 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: that way? You just said it that way? 1212 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 4: Got a liar rolled the tape. 1213 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,720 Speaker 2: Liar like I got it on tail. Okay, I wouldn't 1214 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 2: have probably gone home with them, but I wanted to 1215 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 2: be invited. Yeah, like we just want to get asked, 1216 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 2: want to try to? No, I don't. Okay, moving on 1217 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 2: LJ and the Kitty Cat and. 1218 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 4: Years are better then. 1219 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 2: Some of my friends call me cat, but like as 1220 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 2: a joke, the guys from high school called me Kath. 1221 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 4: Which well I just thought it one from grade school? 1222 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 4: What was it, motormouth Moffitt, that. 1223 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 5: Has to go on there. 1224 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my maiden name. 1225 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 4: And that's also remember because don't you remember when I 1226 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 4: ran for treasure in fourth grade? 1227 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't there, so I don't remember. 1228 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 4: I know, but I've told you this story. 1229 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 5: I don't remember. I'm just kidding, Okay. 1230 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: Obviously we've experienced a lot of life together at this point, 1231 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: or a lot of stories, so like we can't remember everything. 1232 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for that. Do you want to share this? 1233 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1234 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 4: I ran for treasure. I didn't make it, Thank god. 1235 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 4: Money would have you. 1236 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 2: Would the name machines would be free. Is that what 1237 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: you said? 1238 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 4: Vote for Amy Moffatt? You can't top it? And I 1239 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 4: had dollar bills all over it. 1240 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 5: Oh cute. 1241 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,720 Speaker 2: They didn't vote mine for me. My nickname in middle 1242 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: school was Catherine A lotta defada, So when they did, 1243 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 2: like the morning announcements and read like the stats from 1244 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 2: like the soccer games, same like and four stops from 1245 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 2: Katherine a lotta Defada because you were stopping the ball 1246 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 2: Alata a lotta And my last name was Defada. I 1247 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 2: aunt Kat to my nieces and nephews. I don't have 1248 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 2: any like cool names. 1249 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 4: I think Little Jesus takes the cakes. L J for sure, LJ. Yeah, 1250 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 4: all right, well LJ. Where can people find you? 1251 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, they can find me on Instagram at kat van Buren. 1252 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,760 Speaker 2: They can find us on Instagram at Feeling Things podcasts. 1253 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I am at Radio Amy And before 1254 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: we close, we're gonna get to our email. 1255 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 5: It's not your part. 1256 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I see I already forgot that. It's ok 1257 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: and you won't mean to remember the question you answered 1258 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: back in January? 1259 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 5: What question did I ask you? 1260 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 2: And you said earlier? 1261 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: Mir were like, remember we played that game. Then I 1262 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: met your boyfriend and we asked like tons of questions. 1263 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: And you forgot that. 1264 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 5: Okay, ready, Okay, So now it's time for the part 1265 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 5: of the show Monday. 1266 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: Guys, we're gonna get this down. We're still only in 1267 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 1: our second month. 1268 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 2: Did you watch Veggie Tails some when I was like, 1269 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 2: any ing, Oh, you guys watched it right. Well, when 1270 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 2: I said now it's time of the part of the show, 1271 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 2: this isn't gonna make any sense to you because in 1272 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 2: the show it goes and now it's time for silly 1273 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: songs with Larry, the part of the show where Larry 1274 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 2: sings a silly song, and it sounded the same, you know. 1275 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm telling you, I did watch it when 1276 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 4: I nannied kids, so I know what you're talking about. 1277 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 5: Well, you made it seem like it was loserrous. 1278 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 4: No, I was making it seem that I'm older than you. 1279 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 5: Ok Okay, So it's okay, But it was cool that 1280 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 5: I was. 1281 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 4: Actually slight dig at my age. 1282 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 2: Okay. I just want you to tell me it was 1283 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 2: cool that I watched it. It was cool, Okay. 1284 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 1: Veggie tales, veggie tales, veggie tales. 1285 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 2: Veggee tails. 1286 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 5: See, I know. 1287 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 2: Sweet. 1288 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 5: Okay. Now ready, are you ready for the Email of 1289 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 5: the day? 1290 00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 2: That was really good? 1291 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 5: Okay, wait, I'm not supposed to say that. You want 1292 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 5: me to do it again? Yeah, now it's time for 1293 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 5: the Email of the Day. 1294 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: Hi was listening to your recent podcast and wanted to 1295 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: drop a note saying that I am a male listener 1296 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: in Montana. I have been a longtime Bobby Bone show listener. 1297 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 4: And love lov in all caps. 1298 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: This new podcast for y'all great content that I can 1299 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: relate to, and I think it's hitting a much needed 1300 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 1: area of content that is overlooked. Keep up the good 1301 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: work on positive vibes. Pete from Montana wants me to 1302 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: journal Pete things that we're relatable in a much needed 1303 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: area that's overlooked. 1304 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 4: So thank you, Pete. 1305 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: And we should get a bell for like you know, 1306 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: like every time you know this, an angel gets their 1307 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: wings or whatever, and we get a little bell that's 1308 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: like every male listener we get. We're like, wait, that's 1309 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: a great idea because I think now we have like 1310 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: with Pete's thirteen, No, we're up to it least thirteen. 1311 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 4: So we're growing with our male listeners. 1312 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 5: And thanks for the email. 1313 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: And so if every male listener, all thirteen of you, 1314 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: could just pass this episode or any episode the whole 1315 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: podcast to the show, pass it on to your one 1316 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: mail that you know, then we're up to twenty six. 1317 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it can be like a pass it in an 1318 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 2: email chain and say if you don't forward this to 1319 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 2: four of your friends, you will die. And if you, 1320 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 2: if you do pass it to four of your friends, 1321 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 2: just some dimmer like we'll show up in your right. 1322 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 4: That's true, sincerely, little Jesus. 1323 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 5: Right, yes, if Jesus says it, then it must be true. Okay, 1324 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 5: that's a great idea. 1325 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well have thed you need to have. 1326 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: Bye. 1327 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: Bye,