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Speaker 1: I am Jason Tim Happy Tuesday, everybody. I hope all

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Speaker 1: of you guys are having a great start to your week. Well,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, you know, took us all for a ride yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I think we did have a feeling this was gonna

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Speaker 1: go this way, thankfully, because we were almost victims of

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Speaker 1: the NonStop NBA free agency news cycle. Uh. Fortunately, we

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Speaker 1: had a feeling that he would end up staying with Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: So our series or excuse me, offseason previews for both

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Speaker 1: context of Kyrie returning to Brooklyn. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: gonna hit on um uh complete offseason preview for Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: as well as a complete offseason preview for the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: some of the things I expect from them from their stars,

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Speaker 1: as well as some pieces that they can target this

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Speaker 1: some of this new media beef between Draymond Green and

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Speaker 1: including a juicy one from Draymond today saying that he

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Speaker 1: believed the two thousand seventeen Warriors would lose UH to

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Speaker 1: Lebron and the Calves had they not got Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: which I think is pretty obvious, but I think Warriors

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Speaker 1: little bit more tomorrow, uh, But today we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: back uh to the Clippers. Before we get started, remember

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Speaker 1: under Lakers tonight. But let's start with Kyrie. So we

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Speaker 1: Josiah and Sean Marks were like, fine, do it go.

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Speaker 1: this kind of crap is exactly why we don't like

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Speaker 1: So what I expect is things to all look hunky

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Speaker 1: think they got it for three years, thirty three million.

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Speaker 1: They had him under bird rights, so there was absolutely

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Speaker 1: the talent that is available to them, and in this

431
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Speaker 1: case it's Kyrie Irving, and that means that there's risk.

432
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Speaker 1: It's very like if Kyrie Irving halfway through the season

433
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Speaker 1: decides he needs a two week emotional break, you can't

434
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Speaker 1: be upset about that if you're the Lakers. He did

435
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Speaker 1: it two years in a row, basically, right did twice

436
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: two years ago, and then he had the COVID stuff

437
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: this year. Like Kyrie, it's it's essentially more likely than

438
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Speaker 1: not that he'll do some weird stuff during the season

439
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Speaker 1: next year. He'll probably leave you hanging a few times.

440
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Speaker 1: But again, you don't have the luxury of turning that away. Now,

441
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Speaker 1: all of that said, what do I actually expect to happen.

442
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Speaker 1: I think that cooler heads will prevail, particularly with Kevin

443
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Speaker 1: Durant in the nets, and they'll end up the resigning

444
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Speaker 1: Kyrie to some sort of midrange max contract, Like I

445
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: think they'll ditch the qualifiers like that sixty five game

446
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: limit that they wanted. I think it'll be more like

447
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: a three year max something like that that's fully guaranteed.

448
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Speaker 1: That's just my guess and the reason why it's simple,

449
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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to it a little bit deeper

450
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Speaker 1: here in just a minute when we talked about the

451
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Speaker 1: Nets free agency preview. But there's no advantage to Brooklyn

452
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Speaker 1: letting him go, and it's a terrible case of asset management.

453
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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving right now have lower trade

454
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Speaker 1: value than they've ever had for obvious reasons. We don't

455
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Speaker 1: have to get into them, so trading them now, even

456
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Speaker 1: if you think this is an absolute disaster, you're better

457
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Speaker 1: off waiting. And even if halfway through the season, if

458
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Speaker 1: Kyrie can just put up thirty points twice in a week,

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Speaker 1: it might trick some GM into thinking it's a good

460
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Speaker 1: option again and maybe you can move him for some

461
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Speaker 1: quality pieces. So the Nets as a smart, well run organization,

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Speaker 1: I expect Sean Marks and for for Joe Side to

463
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Speaker 1: come to the table and be like, okay, we really

464
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Speaker 1: don't want to do this, but we gotta pay him

465
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Speaker 1: because if we lose him, we basically have to blow

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Speaker 1: this whole thing up. And if we blow this whole

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Speaker 1: thing up, why not blow it up in a year

468
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Speaker 1: when Katie and or Kyrie and and Ben Simmons have

469
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Speaker 1: more trade value because they've actually played some more basketball.

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Speaker 1: So that that's what I expect to happen. But I

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Speaker 1: just wanted you guys to understand, like, this is not

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Speaker 1: exactly the first time Kyrie has had this type of

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Speaker 1: emotional disconnect from another NBA team, And it's important for

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Speaker 1: us to discard any of our normal logical progression of

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Speaker 1: thinking because Kyrie doesn't follow that path. He is a

476
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Speaker 1: very different thinker. He's very nontraditional in the way he

477
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Speaker 1: sees the world and the way he sees money and

478
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Speaker 1: the way he sees everything. So whatever you think he

479
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Speaker 1: should think, he's not going to think. So we need

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Speaker 1: to change our expectations. So let's talk. Let's let's dive

481
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Speaker 1: into this Brooklyn next thing for their UH free agency previews.

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Speaker 1: So again, like I said earlier, that Simmons didn't play

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Speaker 1: basketball at all last year and had injury concerns right,

484
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: bad back and mental health stuff and straight up just

485
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: didn't play basketball. So and then the last time he

486
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: played basketball was him looking utterly useless in an NBA

487
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: playoff series against a pretty mediocre team in the Atlanta Hawks. Right, So,

488
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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons trade value is at an all time low.

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Speaker 1: It will never be lower than it is right now,

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Speaker 1: because even if you went and played basketball next year

491
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Speaker 1: in shrug Gold, he would at least be playing basketball,

492
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Speaker 1: which would automatically increase his trade value. Kyrie Irvin, you

493
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Speaker 1: know what Boston did to Brooklyn wasn't all Kyrie's fault.

494
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, there's an argument I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: make it, but there's an argument that Kyrie out played

496
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Speaker 1: KD in that series. Again, I wouldn't make that argument.

497
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Speaker 1: But my point is is Kyrie was not to blame

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Speaker 1: for this latest Brooklyn Nets collapse. In terms of what

499
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Speaker 1: happened in the playoff series. You could say maybe continuity

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Speaker 1: for him not being in and out of the line

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Speaker 1: up and stuff. The point is is Kyrie is still

502
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: damn good at the game of basketball. What has nuked

503
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: his value is his flakiness. What happened two years ago

504
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Speaker 1: when he repeatedly was taking leave of absences from the team.

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Speaker 1: And what happened last year with the COVID nineteen shot right,

506
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Speaker 1: it was not basketball related. So it's never gonna get

507
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Speaker 1: lower than this. Because if he goes to training camp

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Speaker 1: next year, finish his training camp, plays in a few

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Speaker 1: preseason games, and then plays fifteen of the first twenty

510
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Speaker 1: games of the regular season and looks like Kyrie and

511
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Speaker 1: puts up twenty three points per game on six true shooting,

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Speaker 1: that's Kyrie irving, and almost over just in that fifteen

513
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Speaker 1: game stretch or twenty games stretch, he will massively resuscitate

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Speaker 1: his own trade value. So you know, I I I

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Speaker 1: You guys know how I feel. I'm I'm. I just

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Speaker 1: did a whole thing about this last week. You have

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge reality, and the reality is as this Brooklyn

518
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Speaker 1: Nets team is not a top tier contender. So that

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Speaker 1: automatically gears me towards rebuild because I just don't think

520
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Speaker 1: they have the pieces that they need to win the trophy.

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Speaker 1: That said, timing is everything here. Usually you want to

522
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Speaker 1: blow things up sooner. Why because guy's age, right, and

523
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: maybe if you trade KG Kevin Garnett one year earlier

524
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Speaker 1: than one year later, you can get one additional first

525
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Speaker 1: round pick or one additional quality player, versus if it's

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Speaker 1: a year later, teams will be bless willing to view

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Speaker 1: him as some value. Right, that's usually the thought process.

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Speaker 1: The difference here is Ben and Kyrie are far more

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Speaker 1: likely to increase their trade value even just by next

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Speaker 1: year's trade deadline. So in this case, even if internally,

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Speaker 1: if Sean Marks is looking at if Sean Marks and

532
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Speaker 1: josih are looking at each other and they're like, hey,

533
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Speaker 1: this thing is over, it's not gonna work. Even then

534
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: you have to bring everybody back because you stand to

535
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: gain so much more by playing more basketball with these

536
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: guys to raise their trade value. And who knows, maybe

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Speaker 1: you put this together and there's some sort of organic

538
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: amazing Ben Kyrie Kevin fit and it all works, and

539
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: that's great that you have nothing to lose there. But

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Speaker 1: if it's a disaster in February, when it's the trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: you're in the exact same predicament you were in this summer,

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00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: which is Katie and Kyrie and Ben Simmons have no

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00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: trade value. Okay, great, that's what we were already dealing with.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's one of those things where I I

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Speaker 1: I might be leaning towards blowing things up if I'm Brooklyn,

546
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: but there's literally no reason to do it right now. Now.

547
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Kyrie might literally force you to do that. If Kyrie

548
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: opts out, and just because he's like, screw you, guys,

549
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: I'm done with you. If he opts out, which like

550
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, Jake Fisher has reported, is likely,

551
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: if he does that, then you have to press self

552
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: destruct because if if Kyrie, Katie and Ben Simmons is

553
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: not enough, Katie and Ben Simmons is definitely not enough.

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Speaker 1: And I have and this is coming from someone who

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Speaker 1: has the utmost respect for Kevin Durant. So the way

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Speaker 1: I look at it in this specific case, if you

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00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: if you lose Kyrie, you blow it up. But if

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00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 1: Kyrie ends up agreeing to terms with you to come

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00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: back on a contract, you keep everybody, and you ride

560
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: this thing out at least until the trade deadline, and

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00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: if it doesn't look good, then you can at least

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00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: move them because Kyrie and Ben will at least have

563
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: been playing basketball at that point. So now let's fast

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00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: forward to the most likely scenario, which I talked about earlier.

565
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is back, Kyrie Irving is back, Kevin Duran

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Speaker 1: is back. I actually like the basketball fit there. The

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Speaker 1: Kyrie k De fit, as we've seen in the last

568
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: two years, has been amazing. On the offensive end of

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Speaker 1: the floor, there have been no issues there. Ben Simmons,

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00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: in theory, is a fantastic basketball fit. With that he

571
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: could take primary defensive assist assignments on the perimeter as

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00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: well as anybody in the league. Ben Simmons in his prime,

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Speaker 1: healthy on the basketball court, guarding a perimeter player is

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Speaker 1: a sight to behold. One of my favorite things was

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Speaker 1: last or two years ago, the last year Ben Simmons

576
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: actually played, was watching him play in a regular season

577
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: game against Dame Lillard, and I watched him utterly swallow

578
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: up Dame Lillard. Couldn't even get shots off. He's struggling,

579
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: struggling mightily just to get clean looks at the rim.

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00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: That's that's Dame freaking Lillard. That's the type of talent

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Speaker 1: that Ben Simmons is on the defensive end of the floor.

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Speaker 1: When you fill that in with his playmaking and his

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Speaker 1: ability to get the grab a rebound and push the

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Speaker 1: Brake as a as a ball handler to allow Katie

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00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: and Kyrie to fill the wings the shooters. What he

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00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: can do as a screen and roll big man is

587
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: basically a short roller, kind of like what Draymond Green well,

588
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: really what Bruce Brown was doing for them last year

589
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: and in his Again we talked about this in our

590
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: season wrap up pod. But size and athleticism from a

591
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: perimeter player, in my opinion, is the most valuable thing

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Speaker 1: in the league right now. Ben Simmons is a massive

593
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Speaker 1: a arguably one of the one of the best examples

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Speaker 1: of that for a role player, which is what Ben

595
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Simmons is at this point. He obviously has to make

596
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: monumental improvements elsewhere an his game to become a star.

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00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: So I love the original basketball fit there. We have

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Speaker 1: Joe Harris coming back. I got it. Took as much

599
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: time as he needed off last year, got the surgery

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00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: that he needed. Joe Harris should be back and should

601
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: look good next year. He's a solid defensive player, could

602
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Speaker 1: do lock and trail stuff and guarden because he's big

603
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: and strong. He's not overly tall, but he's trunky. He's

604
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: like got a low, a big a low center of gravity.

605
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Speaker 1: And he's strong, so he can hold his own. It

606
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: gets bigger, stronger wings, and he could shoot. He can

607
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: shoot the ship out of the basketball. So I like

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Speaker 1: to Joe Harris fit Patty Mills is most likely going

609
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Speaker 1: to opt in. That's just what I expect we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Brown is a free agent, but they have his

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00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: bird right so they'll probably retain him. But they have

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00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: no draft picks. So that's basically your ten guys right there.

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Speaker 1: And so from that standpoint, they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: fill in some things on the the periphery there. And

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00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the same thing that I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: about the Lakers soon. You have plenty of offense, you

617
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: have plenty of shooting, but your biggest weakness is Boston

618
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: was so much bigger than you the perimeter, and you

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Speaker 1: have too many minutes for Seth Curry, too many minutes

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00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: for Patty Mills, too many minutes for uh Gore and Rages.

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Speaker 1: Too many small perimeter players that got man handled by

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Speaker 1: the bigger, stronger Boston perimeter players. So you need to

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Speaker 1: target bigger role players. Now, I was looking at I

624
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: was looking into this this morning, just trying to find

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Speaker 1: some examples, and I'll give you some because and I

626
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: don't feel particularly passionate about any of these, because there

627
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: are a lot of them. There are dozens of players

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00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: available this summer that fit this mold that you can

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Speaker 1: have somewhere between the veteran minimum and the mid level

630
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: mid level exception, that are between six five and six eight,

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Speaker 1: that can guard multiple positions and can do basic things

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Speaker 1: on offense. A couple of them off top of my head,

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00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: DeAndre Bembrey, Daniel House who looks great this year, Josh Jackson,

634
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: Wesley Matthews, Auto Porter Jrs. Like it could potentially be

635
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: available if the Warriors can't resign him. Those are just

636
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: a handful of examples, but there's a there are dozens more.

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00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm not overly picky about who

638
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: is because these are small roles we're asking to fill.

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00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: We're not asking for, you know, Mikhail Bridges here a

640
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: guy to be defensive player of the Year for you

641
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: and give you eighteen points a game. That's not what

642
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: we're asking. These are small roles next to all star players.

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Speaker 1: My favorite example of this is the Lakers, because Lebron

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Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis took so much of the workload

645
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Speaker 1: off the table. It allowed guys like k C p

646
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: who are pretty average NBA role players, to look great

647
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: because they had small roles and they were able to

648
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Speaker 1: hit those small roles out of the park. And so

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Speaker 1: from that standpoint, if everything else pans out, if Ben

650
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Speaker 1: Simmons is healthy, Kyrrving is available, Kevin Durant looks like

651
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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Joe Harris is back, Gatty Mills is in there.

652
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Speaker 1: If you have all of those things, then that allows

653
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Speaker 1: you to go up to Daniel House and be like,

654
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Speaker 1: all I need you to do is guard this dude.

655
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Speaker 1: Be be reliable in our help scheme and stand over

656
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Speaker 1: there in the corner. And if you catch the ball

657
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: and you're open, shoot it. And if they close out

658
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: at you attack the clothes out and guess what, You'll

659
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: have lots of space to operate because no one's gonna

660
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Speaker 1: want to leave Kevin Durant, Patty Mills, and Kyrie Irving right. So,

661
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Speaker 1: having that small role allows those types of players to succeed.

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Speaker 1: Don't overthink it, don't look for a Malik Monk like

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Speaker 1: the Lakers did. Lake Monk is awesome, but alongside Lebron

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Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis. It's actually more important for him

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Speaker 1: to do little things than for him to go score.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So I I would target those

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Speaker 1: types of players, defensive minded role players that are athletic

668
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Speaker 1: on the perimeter and have a good amount of size

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Speaker 1: because they will do the dirty work alongside your stars.

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Speaker 1: And the last, but not least with Brooklyn, Kyrie and

671
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Speaker 1: k D are uniquely immune to spacing concerns. So you like,

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Speaker 1: let's say you're looking at a guy like a Josh

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Speaker 1: Jackson or a Wesley Matthews, a bigger, more athletic wing

674
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Speaker 1: all the Wesley's a little shorter, but he's a great

675
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Speaker 1: defensive player for his position. Guys like that, you get concerned, like, oh,

676
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Speaker 1: he's shooting percentage, He's only thirty percent on wide open

677
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Speaker 1: threes or whatever it is. And you're right, like, guys

678
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Speaker 1: are gonna ignore him often and sit in the paint.

679
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Speaker 1: Just ask the Milwaukee Bucks. But Kyrie and a D

680
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: are uniquely immune to spacing. Spacing concerns are a problem

681
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Speaker 1: for slashers who rely on getting consistent rim pressure because

682
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Speaker 1: the paint is clocked, but because those situations forced you

683
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Speaker 1: to shoot over the top of the defender, But what

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Speaker 1: if your specialty is to shoot over the top of

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Speaker 1: the defender. Kyrie and k D their bread and butter

686
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: is getting too off the dribble, jump shots, getting separation

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Speaker 1: with step backs and side steps and crossovers and things

688
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: along those lines. So they are comfortable shooting over the top.

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Speaker 1: So you can do things like play non floor spacing

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Speaker 1: role players and understand that Katie. Kyrie and Katie are

691
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Speaker 1: going to still have a certain amount of success scoring

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Speaker 1: the basketball because they're just comfortable in those situations. So again,

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Speaker 1: who the heck knows what's gonna happen with the Nets

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Speaker 1: this week. But that specific plan I just laid out

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Speaker 1: is what I think is this best plan for Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: provided that Kyrie ends up resigning, which I still expect

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Speaker 1: him to do. All right, let's move on to the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: So I talked about this a little bit earlier, but

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Speaker 1: I want to go over it really quickly one more time.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why they have to be the team

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Speaker 1: that goes after Kyrie Irving. They do not have the

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Speaker 1: luxury of turning around turning down talent in their current situation.

703
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Speaker 1: Like we talked about, earlier, Anthony Davis declining from a

704
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Speaker 1: top five player to a top fifteen player, Lebron James

705
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Speaker 1: still being a top five player but being less available,

706
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Speaker 1: and then trading all of your depth and talent on

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Speaker 1: the wing for Russell Westbrook utterly gutted this team of talent,

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Speaker 1: and they were at a talent disadvantage most nights in

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Speaker 1: the NBA this year. So you don't have the luxury

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Speaker 1: of turning down Kyrie Irving, even with all of his drama,

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Speaker 1: even with all of the issues that come along with it.

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Speaker 1: So I expect that that's why they had to put

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Speaker 1: their name in this hat that said, like we talked

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Speaker 1: about earlier, I don't actually expect that to happen. So

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Speaker 1: for for the sake of this free agency preview, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go on the assumption that Kyrie Irving is not

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Speaker 1: a Laker, and for whatever reason he ends up signing

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Speaker 1: with the Akers. You guys know, will end up doing

719
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: a separate video that kind of has a different type

720
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Speaker 1: of outlook based on that outcome. So from the start,

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Speaker 1: we know that we have the Lebron and Anthony Davis corps. Now,

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Speaker 1: this used to be a cord that I believed in

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00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: very strongly. Those of you guys who listened to me

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Speaker 1: before this last season understood why, even despite everything that happened,

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Speaker 1: even despite the Russell Westbrook trade, why I was so

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Speaker 1: confident in that group. And the main reason why was

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Speaker 1: Lebron James and Anthony Davis. If you guys remember I

728
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Speaker 1: said that in the previous two seasons, when Lebron James

729
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Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis were actually available and on the court healthy,

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Speaker 1: they won't almost of their games and never even never

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Speaker 1: were even remotely threatened in that playoff run. Right, it

732
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Speaker 1: was very similar to the playoff run that the Warriors

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Speaker 1: just had. It was a dominant run to the title.

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Speaker 1: And so I believed in that course so much that

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Speaker 1: even with the Russell Westbrook trade and all of the

736
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Speaker 1: negative that came with that, I was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: if Lebron James and Anthony Davis are on the floor,

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine. Here's the problem. Last year, the net

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Speaker 1: rating with Lebron and Anthony Davis on the floor together

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Speaker 1: was lower than it was the previous season with both

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Speaker 1: of them off the floor. That's how bad they were

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Speaker 1: last year. You know that win percentage they had the

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Speaker 1: previous couple of years. They were eleven and ten last

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Speaker 1: year when Lebron James and Anthony Davis played, And there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of reasons for that. With with Lebron's obviously

746
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: available here and so, and Lebron played like an m VP.

747
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Speaker 1: So it's Lebron a little bit on the defensive end

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: letting go of the rope, not being his bought into

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Speaker 1: Frank vocals defensive scheme as he used to be. But

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Speaker 1: a huge part of it with it was Anthony Davis's decline.

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Speaker 1: This is something I've talked about on the show a lot.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis was a bona fide top five player in

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Speaker 1: the league. In the bubble. He was a dominant defensive force,

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Speaker 1: right Rudy Gobert esque type of defensive force, arguably better

755
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: depending on who you ask. He was hitting post fade

756
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: aways like he was Kevin Durant, bullying mismatches, hitting game winners,

757
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: and was just an all around dominant to a superstar.

758
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Speaker 1: You know, Lebron James was the best player on that team.

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: That's to me unsayable Bowl However, Anthony Davis was right there,

760
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Speaker 1: like that's how good he was. He was right there

761
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Speaker 1: with Lebron James and one of the most dominant playoff

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Speaker 1: runs of his career. Who and he's the second best

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Speaker 1: basketball player of all time in my opinion. So that's

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Speaker 1: how good Anthony Davis was. He's not that good anymore.

765
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Speaker 1: He put on weight, he lost foot speed as a result,

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Speaker 1: he's his body is starting to fail him as a result,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been on the court long enough for him

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Speaker 1: to keep his rhythm. As a result, his jump shot

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Speaker 1: is completely fallen a party. He was one of the

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Speaker 1: worst volume jump shooters in the league last year. And

771
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Speaker 1: so Anthony Davis is arguably not even a top fifteen

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Speaker 1: player anymore. I think when he's healthy now, even with

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Speaker 1: all of his decline in terms of his skill, he's

774
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Speaker 1: still right around the fourteen fifteenth best player in the league.

775
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: But there's a case that he's even lower than that.

776
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Speaker 1: And so that defensive lack of buy in from Lebron

777
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: plus Anthony Davis's decline amounted to the Lebron and Anthony

778
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Speaker 1: Davis core going from being the most dominant pairing in

779
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: the NBA too kind of underwhelming, you know, And so

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: a couple of things really easy here. The number one

781
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: thing that matters for the Lakers this summer. Forget about

782
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: anything else I'm about to talk about. We're gonna talk

783
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: about Russ. I'm gonna give you guys three potential Russell

784
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: Westbrook trades. I'm gonna talk about what they should do

785
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: on the perimeter periphery, like different things that um, different

786
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: moves that they should make to kind of polish off

787
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster. None of that even comes

788
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Speaker 1: close to having nearly as much impact as Anthony Davis

789
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: getting back to what he was. If he does that,

790
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Speaker 1: it will completely transform the outlook for this roster. I'll

791
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Speaker 1: give you guys an example. Jayson Tatum. We think he's

792
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Speaker 1: probably right around the tenth best player in the league.

793
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Right well, Steph Curry was the second best player in

794
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Speaker 1: the league in my opinion, right behind us, but arguably

795
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: the best player in the league. Right that gap. Look

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00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: back to the NBA Finals, Think about how much that

797
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: gap mattered. Think about the difference and Tatum's impact on

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Speaker 1: those games and Steph Curry's impact in those games. That's

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Speaker 1: the difference between the best guy in the league and

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Speaker 1: the tenth best guy in the league. That's the difference.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why Steph Curry and Lebron have won

802
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: eight to the last eleven titles. There's a reason why

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Speaker 1: Kauai and Janice have the other three. It's because that

804
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: top tier of superstars is uniquely capable of impacting basketball

805
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: games in a way that no other basketball player can.

806
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: So once you get past Janice and Stephen Lebron and

807
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: k D, there's a drop off, a big one. And

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00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: so Anthony Davis being in that tier as opposed to

809
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: being in the third tier down around the fifteenth best

810
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: player in the league, that's the that's the best way

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Speaker 1: that this Lakers team can experience an influx of talent. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic about it. He went he went a

813
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Speaker 1: couple of months without touching a basketball again, and then

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Speaker 1: we see k D talking on Twitter. Uh I went

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00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: on with the Eddie Gonzalez from the et Seas and

816
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: he tweeted about it. KD goes two days without touching

817
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Speaker 1: a basketball and is so aunty that he delays the

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Speaker 1: recording of a podcast to go to the gym with

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Speaker 1: his trainer because he's like, I was getting anxiety because

820
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Speaker 1: just thinking about all how all the other players in

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00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the league are getting better and I'm not that that's

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Speaker 1: the difference in the way those two guys are wired.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that Anthony David shoddy

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Speaker 1: team percent from three last year. Those two things are

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Speaker 1: very closely related in my opinion. Some people disagree, but

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Speaker 1: that's just the way I see the game. And so

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis getting back to what he was is the

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Speaker 1: biggest swing factor for this Lakers team. And then secondly,

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Speaker 1: getting Darvin Ham to get these guys to buy in again,

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Speaker 1: because like I talked about earlier, Lebron's not off the

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Speaker 1: hook here. Lebron average thirty had a magical offensive season,

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Speaker 1: but he declined significantly on the defensive end, and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't because of his athleticism, it was because of his commitment.

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Speaker 1: And so if he can get, if Darvin Ham can

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Speaker 1: get Lebron James and Anthony Davis bought in defensively to

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Speaker 1: start this season, and Anthony Davis gets back to what

837
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: he was right away, like the Lakers problems are fixed.

838
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: Like that's simple. Even if it's when you and Gabriel

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and Stanley Johnson alongside them, they will win

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Speaker 1: a ship ton of basketball games. Because that's how good

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00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: those two guys are when they are truly committed and

842
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: healthy and dialed in on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 1: So that that's that's why we gotta keep an eye

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Speaker 1: and a d Let's talk about Russell Westbrook though. So

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Speaker 1: mark Stein yesterday said that he guesses if he had

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Speaker 1: to guess, so it's not reporting, but if you had

847
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Speaker 1: to guess, he guessed that Russell Westbrook would be on

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Speaker 1: the roster for day one of training camp. His reasoning was,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers have continued to shut down any attempts to

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Speaker 1: get them to take back long term salary for US

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Speaker 1: or to give out any assets like their two first

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Speaker 1: round picks that they have available to They've been shutting

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Speaker 1: all of that down, which I don't have to get

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Speaker 1: into again. But to make a long story short, Russell

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Speaker 1: Westbrook is a bad contract. You have year twenty Lebron

856
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis on the roster. If you think

857
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: the first round picks are more valuable than trying to

858
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: win a championship with the second greatest basketball player ever

859
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: and one of the best power forwards ever alive and

860
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: ready to play right now, then you are punting that

861
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: for the sake of of two guys, two players in

862
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: twenty nine that have a very very very small chance

863
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: of even getting close to as good as a d

864
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: and Lebron are right. Now, that's how foolish that is.

865
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: And if you're concerned about taking back long term salary, hey,

866
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: guess what the Hornets were able to trade it. Let's

867
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: let's pretend this happens. Let's say the Hornets trade, you know,

868
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward in a deal for Russell Westbrook. Now the

869
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: Lakers have Gordon Hayward, Well, you don't think you'd be

870
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: able to trade him for a similar player like Russ

871
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: in the future, a similar short term, huge contract that

872
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: someone's trying to dump. That's how this stuff works. Yes,

873
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: it sucks to take a long term salary, but you

874
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: can deal with it. Yes it sucks to trade away

875
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: two first round draft picks, but you also were able

876
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: to get the number thirty five pick this year by

877
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: trading a couple of future seconds. So the point is

878
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: is that those are fixable problems. Draft picks, salary, those

879
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: are fixable problems. What is not fixable is Lebron's getting older.

880
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: What is not fixable is you have an opportunity right

881
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: now with Lebron James and Anthony Davis. To win a title,

882
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: you have to devote yourself to that right now, so

883
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: that that that we don't I didn't even want to

884
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: get back into that today, but it's just something that

885
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: irritates me so much that I couldn't help myself. But

886
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: if Mark Snein is right and they are more concerned

887
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: about protecting those draft picks in their long term salary

888
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: flexibility than committing to winning with on James and out

889
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, that's outrageous. If that's your approach, trade Lebron,

890
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: get him out of here. There's there's absolutely no reason

891
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: to subject him to this. You know, I I'm not

892
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: a huge believer in in putting the priorities of a

893
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: player over a franchise. You know, obviously, if you're the Lakers,

894
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: you have a commitment to your own team. But if

895
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: but why did you get into Lebron James business? Then

896
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: why did you get into this business if this wasn't

897
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: your ultimate goal to win the trophy? And I've always

898
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: thought that so funny. Well what about this draft? You know,

899
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: first round draft pick? How many first round draft picks

900
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: become superstars. What are the what's the statistical probability that

901
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: one of those guys will ever be as good as

902
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Lebron James is right now? It's it reminds me of

903
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: that Peter Griffin thing. It's like from Family Guy. It's like, well,

904
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: it's a mystery box that could even be a boat.

905
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: It's like, well, the boat's right there, man, you can

906
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: literally have the boat, and you're more concerned about the

907
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: mystery box which might be a boat that that. I

908
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: It's just such an ask backwards way of doing things.

909
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: But so if we look at the roster, we know

910
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: that we have Lebron James and Anthony Davis, and we

911
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: know that we have whatever comes back for us. Because

912
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to, for the sake of this preview, make

913
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: the assumption that Russ has gone, because I just I

914
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: just can't even fathom why they would bring him back.

915
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: To do that to Darvin Ham would be outrageous. So

916
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: these are my three favorite rush trades. Now, to be clear,

917
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: these are optimistic rush trades for the Lakers. So in

918
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: all three cases they would have to attach a first

919
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: round draft pick, and in all three cases they would

920
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: probably have to bet on those teams not getting better

921
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: offers from elsewhere in the Lake. There are variations of

922
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: these offers that are less advantageous for the Lakers that

923
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: they might end up having to take. But just these

924
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: are very glass half full, rose colored glasses trades that

925
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: the Lakers could potentially make this summer. So first, with

926
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: the Charlotte Hornets, Kelly you Bray, Terry j Here is

927
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: a really good guard that I like a lot, and

928
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: p J Washington. P J Washington is a really good player.

929
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it necessarily fits into Charlotte's long term future,

930
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: so I think that's why he could potentially be available.

931
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: And but but he's good enough that the Lakers would

932
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: absolutely have to include a first. But that trade allows

933
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: you to bring back three quality role players, including two

934
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: very athletic wings, to fill in some of the perimeter

935
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: size deficiencies that the Lakers had in previous seasons. There's

936
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: variations of that trade, right, Like you could swap in

937
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: if they wanted to keep AJ Washington, you could take

938
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: back Miles Plumbly. I really think the Lakers need one

939
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: backup center. You guys know, I don't like traditional centers,

940
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: but you've gotta have one on the roster for weird

941
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: matchups or to eat innings in the regular season. Don't

942
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: think they should be in the regular rotation, but you

943
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: need them. Uh. Plumb Lee is a good example of one,

944
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: or a guy like Dwight Howard if you brought him

945
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: back at them at the minimum to be a guy

946
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: who played, you know, twelve minutes of game as your

947
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: backup center, and or for specific matchups against guys like

948
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: Yo kich or Embiid. Right. So there's variations of that trade,

949
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: including guys like Plumbly break glass in case of emergency.

950
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: If they're like no, no, no, we're giving you Gordon Hayward.

951
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: You take back Gordon Hayward if you have to, because

952
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: again you're trading Russell Westbroke here. But I'd prefer to

953
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: avoid Gordon Hayward because of his injury history. But that's

954
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: trade option number one. Number two New York Knicks Alec

955
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: Burke's Evan Fournier and Nerland's Noel Now, there's a couple

956
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: of things here. You'd have to wait until after they

957
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: finished the Jalen Brunson signing because in this particular case,

958
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: they'd beat the Knicks would be taking back more money

959
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: than they'd be sending out. But the big one here

960
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: is they get off of long term money from Fournier,

961
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: which if you're trying to build for the future and

962
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: you see it as a Bronson Julius Randall thing, it

963
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: doesn't really fit for you there. And you have them

964
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: for three years left on his deal, it's a great

965
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: way to generate some almost immediate flexibility going into the

966
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: following season. Burkes and Noel each have two years left

967
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: on their deal. I think they're both right around I

968
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: think they combined for about sixteen million if I remember correctly.

969
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: So in this case, you'll wait until after the Jalen

970
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: Brunson s I need you get back three quality perimeter

971
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: role players to play alongside Lebron James and Anthony Davis.

972
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: Again there, I think they'd have to include a first

973
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: round pick and then last, but not least, Indiana Pacers.

974
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: You guys have heard this one, but Malcolm Brogden and

975
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 1: Buddy Heald again, this is betting on the Pacers wanting

976
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: to rebuild. You absolutely would have to include a first

977
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: year because Malcolm Brogden is that high quality of a player,

978
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: But yield is kind of a mixed bag. Around the

979
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: league because he's such a great offensive player, but he's

980
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: limited defensively and he's had some health concerns in his

981
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: career as well. But that's another two guys. I healed

982
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: is not a great physical profile defensively on the wing,

983
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: but Malcolm Brogden is And so you're getting back a

984
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: good two way guard and then a good high end

985
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: offensive guard that likely would fit really well alongside Lebron

986
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis. So, like I said, those are

987
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: rose colored glasses types of trades there, you'll probably end

988
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: up having to take something a little less than that.

989
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: Those are just three examples of good outcome for the

990
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Lakers in a Russell Westbrook trade and again giving up

991
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. Yes, you I understand the

992
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: first might be how you rebuild one day, but you

993
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: also have Lebron James and Anthony Davis on the roster.

994
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: You owe it to them to try to make this work.

995
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: And in this case, swapping a pick five years in

996
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: the future to bring back quality role players is an

997
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: excellent trade off for the Lakers. So then in this

998
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: case we'd have whatever package comes back, Lebron James, Anthony Davis,

999
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn, Taylor Norton, Tucker all under contract, Stanley Johnson,

1000
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, and when you and Gabriel are all on

1001
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: team options, all for right around two million for the season,

1002
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: I expect them to take all of those. They're discounted.

1003
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: They're good fits, they play hard, and they bring that

1004
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: little influx of youth that this team needs so badly.

1005
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: Each of them bring specific, unique skill sets to the Lakers,

1006
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: and we talk a lot about, you know, the difference

1007
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: between position old defenders and disruptive defenders. Austin Reeves is

1008
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: a really good positional defender in this league already. Stanley

1009
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Johnson is a really good disruptive defender already in this league.

1010
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: When you Gabriel is just your textbook try hard forward

1011
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: that you just know is gonna get his has a

1012
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 1: nose for the ball, and he's gonna be flying around

1013
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: trying to make plays. He's a capable spot up shooter

1014
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: as well. Again, for the money and understanding that their

1015
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: homegrown players that the fans are attached to, I just

1016
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: don't think you can do much much better in the

1017
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: veteran minimum market than those guys. So I think you

1018
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: retain all of those, like we talked about earlier, no

1019
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: plotting centers. But you could get one who's a decent

1020
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: athlete to try to be a backup for yet plumbly

1021
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: in a trade with a team like the Hornets, Dwight Howard,

1022
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: if you signed him for the minimum contract. Again, Dwight Howard,

1023
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: as he showed last year, when he was able to

1024
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: play in small bursts, when he was able to play,

1025
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: when he was able to take nights off frequently, he

1026
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: was actually a very good backup center in the NBA.

1027
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: It's when you have to lean on him heavily that's

1028
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: suddenly his decline becomes readily apparent. But most importantly, on

1029
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: the periphery of that outside of those guys, let's say

1030
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: they need to sign three or four additional guys for

1031
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: the veteran minimum. You gotta target athletes on the perimeter.

1032
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: So I mentioned these earlier for Brooklyn al Read a

1033
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: handful of examples. DeAndre Bembrey, Daniel House, Josh Jackson, Justin Jackson,

1034
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: Wesley Matthews, Otto Porter Jr. You know, there's a bunch

1035
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: of guys in this mold. There are dozens of them

1036
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: that I was looking at this morning. And alongside Lebron

1037
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis, they would be in small roles

1038
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: that they should be able to excel at. And so

1039
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to be picky. You can take what's available.

1040
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: Just don't make the mistake that Rob Bolika made last

1041
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: year and target tiny players. Now, Malik Monk, there is

1042
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: some reporting today that he might be willing to take

1043
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: less money than he's worth to stay to stay with

1044
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Again, if if Kyrie comes for the the

1045
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: mL E, you have to take Kyrie. If Kyrie doesn't

1046
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: come from the EMIL E and Malik Monk's willing to

1047
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: come for six million, that sounds great, right. But again,

1048
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: if you can get a good wing for six if

1049
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: you can get Auto Porter Jr. For six million, you

1050
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: gotta take Auto Porter Jr. Over Malik Monk because Otto

1051
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: Porter Jr. Demonstrated that he is very valuable in playoff

1052
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: series because of his size, his intelligence, his perimeter shooting,

1053
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: his ability to thrive in a smaller role next to

1054
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: great players. So as much as I like Malik Monk

1055
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: and he was a joy to watch last year, I

1056
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: wish him a great deal of success around the league,

1057
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: I just don't see a realistic path to the Lakers

1058
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: keeping him that doesn't sacrifice their ability to fix other

1059
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: flaws on the roster, and that might mean you have

1060
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: to let Malik Monk walk. And the last, but not

1061
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: least for the Lakers, this is why I like the

1062
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving acquisition for them. Specifically, the Lakers will always

1063
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: have spacing concerns because they have two massive rim pressuring

1064
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: forwards in Lebron James and Anthony Davis, so teams will

1065
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: consistently pack the paint on them even when there are

1066
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: good shooters on the floor. Kyrie Irving's immunity is spacing.

1067
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: The ability to shoot over the top of defenders becomes

1068
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: immensely valuable in tight space situations. It's another reason why

1069
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: I like that fit. So again, that's my initial takeaway

1070
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: for the Lakers if Russell Westbrook does end up getting

1071
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: traded and they do not sign Kyrie Irving. Obviously, if

1072
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: something other than those two outcomes happens, we will reapproach

1073
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: this in the future. All right, Before we get out

1074
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: of here today, I did want to take just a

1075
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: couple of minutes to talk about this ever growing beef

1076
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: between Draymond Green the new media and the old media,

1077
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: the establishment media, the take artists, whatever you want to

1078
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: call it. And so Draymond his podcast that I listened

1079
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: to this morning was just him going down the line

1080
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: letting everybody know what it is. And I thoroughly enjoyed that.

1081
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: You guys know me, I'm pro victory lapse. Like, to me,

1082
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: winning has to mean something. If there's one time that

1083
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: I think you should be able to talk shi it

1084
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: with impunity, it's when you've won the trophy. And so

1085
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: I have no issue with it. But Draymond Green's his

1086
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: beef is with the the way that the game is covered,

1087
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: and I personally find that to be very interesting because

1088
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to all these guys, you know,

1089
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to Skip Bayliss from time to time. Obviously,

1090
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: now I can't stand it, Like it's like nails on

1091
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: a chalkboard. To me, I almost get like secondhand awkwardness.

1092
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: Even when I see his videos come along the Twitter feed,

1093
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I have a hard time even just watching those because

1094
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: I've grown up a lot since then, you know. But

1095
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that since I got into

1096
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: this business, and I'm relatively new into this business, is

1097
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: you're you're you're trying to succeed, right. You want to

1098
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: the ultimate goal here is to put food on the table, right,

1099
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: So you're trying to pay attention to trends and see

1100
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: what works and see what doesn't. And you know, it's

1101
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: always been interesting to me how many people gravitate towards

1102
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: that kind of content and sometimes how it feels as

1103
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: though not as many people gravitate towards the analysis, and

1104
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: so you can kind of get a little bit discouraged sometimes.

1105
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: So I see where Draymond Green is coming from there.

1106
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: But I listened to another podcast this morning. I listened

1107
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: to uh Colin Coward interviewing Peter Goober, who is one

1108
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: of the majority owners for the Golden State Warriors. Towards

1109
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: the end of the episode, I highly recommend you guys

1110
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: check it out. Towards the end of the episode, Colin

1111
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: asked Peter a simple question about bitcoin, basically saying like,

1112
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: it's not something that I personally believe in, but I

1113
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: know a lot of really smart, successful people who do

1114
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: What do you make of that? And what Peter said

1115
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: really resonated with me. He said, and I'm paraphrasing here,

1116
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: He's like when you feel a desire to be critical

1117
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: of something, try to be curious about it instead the

1118
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: idea they're being. If you see something you don't understand,

1119
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: instead of just getting upset about it, try to learn

1120
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: about it, try to learn why it is the way

1121
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: that it is. And I'm not speaking about specifically Draymond there,

1122
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: because I know Draymond knows why those things work. But

1123
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: that's just how I rationalize it. So like when I

1124
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: see people like Skip Bayliss putting out a form of

1125
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: sports media content that I find borderline reprehensible. When I

1126
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: see that, instead of me trying to just get mad

1127
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: at it, I try to understand it. And one of

1128
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: the things I've learned in this business is the reality

1129
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: is a lot of people gravitate towards that. A lot

1130
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: of people gravitate towards hot takes, a lot of people

1131
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: gravitate towards the debate model, and a lot of people

1132
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: who gravitate towards surface level drama over analysis. A lot

1133
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: of people do. That is the reality. However, the flip

1134
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: side is is a lot of people also gravitate towards

1135
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: real analysis. I've been blown away by your guys support

1136
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: of my show because I like, sometimes I'm like, I'm

1137
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: sitting here talking about pick and roll coverages, and I

1138
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: can't believe how many of you guys care. And I'm

1139
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: very thankful for that. But I also see people like

1140
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick succeeding. I see people like Drama Green succeeding

1141
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: I you know, I uh, Tim Legler does an amazing

1142
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: job for ESPN, Zach Low does an amazing job for

1143
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: esp And they're all these guys out there who provide

1144
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: more detailed analysis, and then there's like an army of

1145
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: lower level people doing that for teams and doing stuff

1146
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: for blogs and things along those lines. There's a ton

1147
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: of people who produce that kind of content and a

1148
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: lot of you guys genuinely love it. And so what

1149
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: I've just acknowledged is that in the in this media landscape,

1150
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: there are different paths you can choose. Different people break

1151
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: the game down in different ways, and there's no such

1152
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 1: thing as like a crowded field. It's not like TV

1153
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: where you're competing against a handful of channels and it's like, Okay,

1154
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm either gonna listen to you know, Stewart Scott in

1155
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: the in the crew on ESPN, or maybe I can

1156
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: go over to you know, Fox Sports Net or something

1157
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: like that. It's not like that anymore. Now it's there.

1158
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: It's it's a flooded field. You can go anywhere. There

1159
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: is no limit, there is no if I can listen

1160
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: to five podcasts that break down the NBA Finals in

1161
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: one day, if I choose to, And so because of that,

1162
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: I just I just I appreciate that we can get

1163
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: the eyeballs in the ears that we can get, rather

1164
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: than getting upset about the Skip Bayliss type of stuff

1165
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: out there. Because again, like there are probably some of

1166
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: you guys who listened to this show who also listened

1167
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: to SKIP. And I don't think you're I don't think

1168
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: you're wrong for listening to Skip. It's just not my

1169
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: cup of tea. It just not what I'm into. And

1170
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: I think it's cool that you can listen to both

1171
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: if you want to, if you're into that sort of thing.

1172
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: Here's where I very much, powerfully agree with Draymond. Another

1173
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: thing Peter Grouper said in his podcast with Con Coward.

1174
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: He talked about how, being an owner of a basketball team,

1175
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: he doesn't like the semantics of the word owner because

1176
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like he owns anything. It's more of

1177
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: a partnership. What he said is that he feels like

1178
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: the steward of a team when he is an owner,

1179
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: meaning he's kind of like in charge of us. He's

1180
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: kind of like in charge of navigating that team through

1181
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: a certain period of time. And the way I look

1182
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: at it, all of us who talk about the game

1183
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: of basketball are stewards of the game of basketball. Again,

1184
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: guys like I gave my life to this game. Literally

1185
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: from the time I turned eighteen years old. Every waking minute,

1186
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: with exception of the times I absolutely had to be

1187
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: suit doing something else or when I was relaxing with

1188
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: my wife, I've given to this game. I I No

1189
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: one pays me to volunteer for the high school that

1190
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: I coached for. No one pays me to train those kids,

1191
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: or to go to practice, or or to do the

1192
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: things that I do. I do it because I love it.

1193
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: I do it because I love I I want to

1194
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: give something to the young basketball players that are coming

1195
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: up in my city. I pay I played in men's

1196
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: leagues and I play pick up. I train like a

1197
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: professional athlete, even though no one pays me a dime,

1198
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: and it's just because I love the game. I love

1199
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: this game so much. It means so much to me,

1200
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: and it's so important for this game to continue to

1201
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: be healthy going into the future. And so where I

1202
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: agree with Draymond vehemently is it sucks sometimes to see

1203
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: the game being talked about in that way because it

1204
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: is shallow to me, and it is bad for the

1205
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: game in a lot of ways in my opinion. But

1206
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, all I can trust

1207
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: is that me on a much lower level. But then

1208
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: the higher ups, the Draymond's, the j d Reddicks of

1209
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: the world, I hope that they take that responsibility as

1210
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: stewards of the game. And I say I hope, I

1211
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: know they do. I try us to j J, and

1212
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: I trust Draymond to do this, But they are the

1213
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: stewards of the game. It's their job now. And you know,

1214
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: with guys like Tim Legler and Zachlo and all those

1215
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: guys that I mentioned, it's their job to continue to

1216
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: help grow that game into the future so that more

1217
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: people that happen to come across their content do learn

1218
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: about the game of basketball. When I listen, when I

1219
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: go back and I look at the comments to get

1220
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: feedback from you guys. One of my favorite things that

1221
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: I see is things along the lines of, you know,

1222
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I learned about the game today. You know,

1223
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: Jason helps me learn about the game. That means the

1224
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: world to me. That's all that matters to me. I

1225
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: want to increase the population of people that are in

1226
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: love with the game of basketball. That's what matters the

1227
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: most to me. And so at the end of the day,

1228
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: like I totally see where Draymond's coming from, I feel

1229
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: those same visceral feelings that he feels. I just I'm

1230
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: kind of at peace with it because I just get

1231
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: that that's the way the business is. I understand too

1232
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to do a certain amount of

1233
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I'm gonna have to do lists,

1234
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do comparison, I'm gonna have to

1235
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: do those kinds of things. The one thing you can

1236
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: count on me for sure is I will never be

1237
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: critical of a player opportunistically. I'll give you an example.

1238
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: I've been extremely critical of Russell Westbrook. I am. When

1239
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: I am critical of Russell Westbrook, it puts up numbers.

1240
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: I have social media clips over the last couple over

1241
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: the over the course of the last year, that breached

1242
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: millions of people because of me being critical of Russell Westbrook.

1243
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: But that is just coincidental, because I would never be

1244
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: critical of Russ opportunistically. You know, you guys know why

1245
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm critical of Russ. He offends me as a fan

1246
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: of the game of basketball. He is one of the

1247
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: most naturally gifted athletes I've ever seen in my life.

1248
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: I'll never forget a play when he had broken his

1249
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: nose in Oklahoma City. It was, I want to say,

1250
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: the year after Kevin Durant left. It was during his

1251
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: MVP season and he had a play. He was wearing

1252
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: that like face mask and he goes running down the

1253
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: court and transition jumps from behind the semi circle damn

1254
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: Ye at the free throw line, cox it back with

1255
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: two hands behind his head like this and throws it

1256
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: down and the entire gym is just floored from what

1257
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: they saw. I watched the clip like a hundred times

1258
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: in a row. When it happened, I couldn't believe what

1259
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: I was seeing. He is a nuclear athlete, possibly pound

1260
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: for pound, the best athlete that we've ever seen in

1261
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: the NBA. And the guy just has never cared enough

1262
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: about improving himself on the on the periphery of his game,

1263
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: committing to the defensive end of the floor, you know,

1264
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: being willing to fit alongside stars, working on your jump shot,

1265
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: working on your midrange shot, your float or your push out,

1266
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: your short range game. He was one of the worst

1267
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: volume rim finishers in the league this year, and it

1268
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: just feels like a waste to me. And then when

1269
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: you combine that with his obstinate attitude and the way

1270
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: that he can just be like, not screw you, guys,

1271
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: I have it all figured out. You guys do know

1272
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. That's offensive to me. So when

1273
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: I talk about Russ that way, it's very organic. It's

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Speaker 1: it is not Skip Bailess attaching his name to Lebron

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Speaker 1: for the sake of numbers. Russell Westbrook will be gone

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Speaker 1: from the Lakers in all likelihood this year, and I

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Speaker 1: probably won't talk about it much anymore because he's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna disappear into irrelevance. And you know what, our show

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Speaker 1: is gonna do fine because you guys like that. I

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Speaker 1: like to talk about basketball, So again, like that, I

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Speaker 1: have my own little personal commitments in my much smaller

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Speaker 1: role as one of the smaller stewards of this game.

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Speaker 1: But like the way I see it, we just do

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Speaker 1: the best we can with our platforms, and Draymond, you

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Speaker 1: do the best you can, and JJ you do the

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Speaker 1: best you can. Amplify each other, amplify each other. That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm amplifying those names that I mentioned earlier. But

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Speaker 1: it just acknowledged the reality that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that like that crap and they're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to like that crap, and that crap is not

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Speaker 1: going away, and so it's just it's just the reality

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Speaker 1: of the business. But I'm happy for a Draymond that

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Speaker 1: he's taking is is uh his victory laps and last

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Speaker 1: but not least, to be honest, like, one of the

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Speaker 1: things with this business is you have to acknowledge the

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Speaker 1: reality that when you are critical of someone, you could

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Speaker 1: face consequences. Like what's happening with Draymond, Like talking about

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Speaker 1: these people is they said things and there are consequences

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Speaker 1: to those things. Freedom of speech is not the same

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Speaker 1: as freedom from consequences. I understand that if I'm next year,

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Speaker 1: if I'm critical of Anthony Davis one day and he

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Speaker 1: decides to tweet at me like, who the hell are you?

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Speaker 1: What's your problem? Like, that's that's a potential repercussion. You

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Speaker 1: know when when you're in this business and you and

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Speaker 1: you are talking like that, you always know there's a

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Speaker 1: potential for fallback. It's just part of the deal. Um.

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Speaker 1: But that's all I got for today, guys. I sincerely

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Speaker 1: appreciate your support. As always, we will have more free

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Speaker 1: agency previews throughout the week. Check out this on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: If you miss it for whatever reason, you can find

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Speaker 1: it on our podcast feed under Lakers Tonight. Remember to

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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at Underscore Jason LT. That is

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Speaker 1: all I have for you guys today. I'll see you

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Speaker 1: guys in a couple of days. The Volume