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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey, then everybody, it is Wednesday, August three two.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where then will

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Speaker 1: Live Forever. It's been your man named g Marcus Grant.

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Speaker 1: Back from the wilderness is Michael f. Florio. Welcome back, sir,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much for holding it down.

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Speaker 1: On the last couple of weeks. I got to hit

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Speaker 1: up the Bahamas for the first time. That that was

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Speaker 1: really fun. And now I'm I'm excited to be back

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Speaker 1: with you that we're back together. We're back together again,

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Speaker 1: just in time for for like football, real real, actual

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Speaker 1: football coming up. I got producer Randy of course, is

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Speaker 1: always at the controls and we have a special guest today.

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Speaker 1: You probably know him from a lot of things he does.

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Speaker 1: He's all over the place. Uh, He's at Fantasy Points Live.

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Speaker 1: He's featured on bet Spurts. He's part of the King's Classic.

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Speaker 1: I will see this man in person in Canton, Ohio

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Speaker 1: in about We is also part of the Dynasty Vipers Network.

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Speaker 1: It is the one and only Matt donne Lee from

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Speaker 1: our neighbor to the north up in Alberta, Canada. Matt,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you making some time for us how are you, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great here. Anytime I can avoid doing real

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Speaker 1: work and jump on a podcast to start talking football, like,

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Speaker 1: oh at a victory, Yeah, it's definitely a win, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean we could be doing we could be doing

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Speaker 1: a lot worse things with our lives and sitting around

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Speaker 1: here talking about football and fantasy football and the whole like. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: we got play to talk about because, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: we actually have football like substance going on. Training camps

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Speaker 1: a little more than twenty four hours from now. So

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Speaker 1: football is actually fully truly back in our lives and

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Speaker 1: not us just nitpicking whatever we can find on social

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Speaker 1: media or you know whatever local newspaper or video feeds. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to that. So we'll talk some hype, trainer,

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Speaker 1: smoke screen, We'll talk a little bit about the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game coming up on Thursday. But let's start

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Speaker 1: with some news because obviously there's been quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of it now that we have players back in camp.

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Speaker 1: The biggest piece of news obviously coming earlier in the week, uh,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. We were all expecting a punishment to come down.

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Speaker 1: It has been handed down. Judge Suell Robinson has made

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Speaker 1: her ruling and decided that Deshaun Watson should be suspended

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Speaker 1: for six games for violating the Personal Conduct Policy. By now,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you all know what the allegations have been,

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Speaker 1: what the defense has been. We know pretty much the

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Speaker 1: story is as much as we can know it. UM.

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Speaker 1: I will refrain from editorializing because right now this is

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Speaker 1: a fantasy football podcast and that just doesn't make a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of sense. But it does mean that we

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Speaker 1: do have to have that awkward transition at awkward you know,

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Speaker 1: pivot to talking about fantasy football when there are actual,

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Speaker 1: real life things that are happening here. So we will

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Speaker 1: do our best to do that here. Uh. I should

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Speaker 1: also add that right now as we record this podcast

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday morning, August three, it is a six game suspension.

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Speaker 1: That number could still go up. Uh. There is certainly

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Speaker 1: a belief that Roger Goodell uh the league will appeal

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Speaker 1: that number and that it could be more games. As

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Speaker 1: of now, we don't know, So we're just operating on

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Speaker 1: it is a six game suspension. So uh, Matt I

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Speaker 1: will start with you. I mean, you know, we know

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Speaker 1: at least for now that Deshaun Watson will play some

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Speaker 1: portion of the season for the Cleveland Browns provided nothing

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Speaker 1: else changes. Um, but let's also throw in the fact

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Speaker 1: that he has not played football in well over a year.

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Speaker 1: He sat out all of last year with the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: What are your on field expectations for Deshaun Watson when

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Speaker 1: he comes back, and and if you feel comfortable drafting him,

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Speaker 1: where would you do that. Yeah, that's a very good question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like how you mentioned the it's six

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Speaker 1: with that six game kind of potential suspension there for him,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel comfortable about fourteen quarterbacks right now

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Speaker 1: I'm using Watson as a boom or bus type quarterback here,

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Speaker 1: something I can kind of count on on the back

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Speaker 1: going to be a consistent guy, not another boom or bust,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins or even a Derek Carr would be a

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Speaker 1: fantastic pairing with DeShawn Watson. Round nine maybe where I

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Speaker 1: He comes off the board late, Floria. I don't know

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Speaker 1: he was the QB four nine team, He was the

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Speaker 1: mean we we know what the ceiling can be for him. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll stay with you. Here is everything around him now right?

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Speaker 1: he's spelled him admirably, but he hasn't been able to

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Speaker 1: Gurley has become sort of the poster for that of

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Speaker 1: a guy who was on top of the world one

428
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Speaker 1: one year and then out of the league. It seemed

429
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Speaker 1: the very next But I don't know. I just feel like,

430
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Speaker 1: until I see that that plummet from Zeke, I'm not

431
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Speaker 1: willing to just completely write him off yet. And I

432
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: think I think it's gonna be that sort of thing,

433
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: like you said, Florial, people are gonna draft him. You're

434
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Speaker 1: gonna hold your nose. You're gonna draft Ezekiel Elliott. You're

435
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: not gonna love it. Nobody and nobody in your draft

436
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, groan that you sniped Zeke from them, right.

437
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 1: Nobody is gonna stand up and patch you on the

438
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Speaker 1: back and say, man, that was a really great pick.

439
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Speaker 1: But I just have this feeling at the end of

440
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 1: the year, he's gonna be hanging around and he'll be

441
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Speaker 1: the RB eight, the r B nine, something like that. Uh,

442
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Speaker 1: And it's gonna look to be a pretty good pick

443
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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. So, Uh. You know,

444
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: I get that we all love shiny new things, um,

445
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: but this this feels like you know that old pair

446
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: of shoes that you just leave there near the front

447
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: door and they you know, it's it's like my old

448
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: beat up pair of all birds. Man, they don't look great,

449
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 1: but they're comfortable as heck, and they're great when I

450
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: just need to run out to the store and I

451
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: just feel like that's that's gonna be Zeke. So I

452
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Speaker 1: was gonna say, if we're comparing him to Girly, I

453
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: think this would be Zeke's like Girly Falcon season rather

454
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Speaker 1: than the year where he's just out the league, where

455
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: like volume alone is gonna make him a top Keen

456
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, I can see that. I could definitely,

457
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: I could definitely believe in that. But so look, but

458
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Speaker 1: let's talk Matt. Let's talk about Tony Poller because he

459
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: is He's the golden child in in fantasy circles right now.

460
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: He's the guy that everybody wants to get a huge role. Uh,

461
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Speaker 1: can you paint me a picture? What what has to

462
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Speaker 1: happen right now for Tony Pollard to be worth a

463
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: weekly start? Because last year, I mean, he got you

464
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: double digit points I think four different times. Right, it's fine,

465
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: it's not great. It's not a guy that you feel

466
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Speaker 1: confident starting every week. I know that's what people want.

467
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: What has to happen in us for us to be

468
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Speaker 1: comfortable doing that. I think he's in the perfect storm

469
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Speaker 1: right now. I think he's got flex appeal every single week.

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Speaker 1: Right now. You look at last year, I think he

471
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Speaker 1: was RB twenty eight. You mentioned that almost eleven fasty

472
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Speaker 1: points per game coming from three point eight yards after contact. Well,

473
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Speaker 1: if he gets the ball, you know he's gonna be

474
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Speaker 1: able to produce. But his big value is going to

475
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Speaker 1: be in this passing game. He had the tenth most

476
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Speaker 1: slot yards per route run last season amongst all guys

477
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Speaker 1: with I can't remember what the numbers. I think it's

478
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Speaker 1: like twenty opportunities there or whatever. That worked out too.

479
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Speaker 1: But you know, with Michael Galp coming back from an injury,

480
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Speaker 1: James Washington going down, you're basically looking at Ceedee lab

481
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Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz as your two pass catchers in this offense. Well,

482
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna bounce Tony Pollard out to the slot,

483
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: that gives you another pass catcher to go with Dak

484
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: to make things happen. So that's where I think his

485
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: value is going to be. This whole situation here in

486
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: Dallas kind of reminds me of yesteryear when you had

487
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon and Austin Ekeler in that Chargers backfield where

488
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler wasn't necessarily getting the touches in the run game,

489
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Speaker 1: but he was being really effective and efficient as a

490
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Speaker 1: pass catcher. And in PPR, hey, that's all Tony Polar

491
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: needs because he averaged eight point six yards per reception

492
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Speaker 1: last year. So you know, if he gets the ball

493
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Speaker 1: in his hands, he's going to be able to produce

494
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: for you in fantasy, especially in those PPR leagues. So

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Speaker 1: I think Paulard is going to have weekly flex appeal

496
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: each and every week. So I'm all in on Pollard here.

497
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna draft especially when you're drafting him, I think

498
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: you're drafting him probably what round ten, round eight, some

499
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: of that range, depending on where these running backs are

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Speaker 1: falling falling off the board. So I feel comfortable where

501
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: Paular is. I think he's gonna outperform his current ADP,

502
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: much like Zeke's gonna help perform his a DP. So

503
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: since you're in more in now on Zeke Florio, does

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Speaker 1: that mean you are a little more out on Pollard

505
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: or are you still kind of buying in there. I

506
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: like Pollard, um, I just think he's there's more upside

507
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 1: if Zeke gets hurt. But I feel like right now,

508
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: with Zeke healthy, we're kind of drafting Tony Pollard at

509
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: his ceiling. So I because like like he's going as

510
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Speaker 1: like right outside the top twenty four running backs, definitely

511
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: inside the top thirty, and to me, that's kind of appropriate.

512
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: That's where I have him ranked. Um. I get the

513
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Speaker 1: upside if anything happens to Zeke, But a lot of

514
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: the times in drafts and that range of drafts, I

515
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: go in another direction. Um I I don't. I think

516
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: if the biggest way that Pollard could be really good

517
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: in fantasy outside of a Zeke injury is that they

518
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: let a man that slot more often man because Jalens

519
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: Holbert is getting a lot of hype right now, he

520
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: could play outside opposite of Ceedee Lamb. And then with

521
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: James Washington hurt right now, like there's not a whole

522
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of of until Michael Gallup comes back, there's not

523
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot of depth in that receiver room, So

524
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: why not throw out a guy who you know he

525
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 1: catches in space could do a whole lot of damage.

526
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Speaker 1: If that it happens and we start to see that

527
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: in training camp, I'll change my tune. Then I imagine, uh, Yeah,

528
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. Last little thing before we hit

529
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Speaker 1: a quick break. Um, the rams apparently are lessening Matthew

530
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: Stafford's work low because he's dealing with a bit of

531
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: an elbow issue. Um, he's brought to his pal, Clayton Kersher.

532
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have heard, but Matthew

533
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: Stafford and Clayton Kersh are friends. I'm the first person

534
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: to ever say this on a broadcast. It has never

535
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: ever been mentioned ever before in the history of anything. Um,

536
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: but you know, Kershaw had an elbow issue. Stafford has

537
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: an elbow issue. Matthew Payne some of these pains exactly.

538
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Speaker 1: I know we're gonna play high trainer smoke screen a

539
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show. But how worried

540
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: should we be about this? Matt Is this is this

541
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: something that we should really pay attention to or is

542
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: it you know that's just kind of a training camp thing.

543
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Matthew Stafford and injuries. I mean,

544
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: this guy said just about every possible injury and played

545
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: through just about every single one. So if he needs

546
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more maintenance here in the preseason, in

547
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: the last whatever you want to call it. I'm all

548
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: for that. All I care about right now is if

549
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: he's been inviting Allen Robinson to his breakfast club with

550
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. That's all I care about right now. On

551
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: Fantasy I think that arm is gonna be fine, that

552
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: elbow is gonna be fine. I mean, you're looking at

553
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: a guy who threw what was five thousand yards last season?

554
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: You threw over forty touchdowns last seas. Give the help,

555
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: give that Alpo a little bit of a break. I mean,

556
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: the Rams have that shorten offseason, a little brest a

557
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm okay with it. Yeah, maybe coffee and

558
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: donuts make elbows feel better. Um, I should do some

559
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: scientific research and trying to figure that thing out. All right,

560
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: I'll take a quick break. We'll come back and play

561
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: some hype trainers Smoke Screen. Will also get a glimpse

562
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: at the Hall of Fame game and kind of what

563
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: we're looking forward that. Stay tuned for that on the

564
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. All right, Now that we have

565
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: actual like I say, football like substance, We've got practices,

566
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: we got training camps. We're gonna have a football game

567
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: coming up in about a day. Uh, It's always a

568
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: good time to play hype trainer smoke screen because now

569
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Speaker 1: coaches are saying things and players are saying things, and

570
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's just training camp talk. Sometimes it

571
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Speaker 1: actually means something. So I put together about five things

572
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: or four things. We're gonna lete something because be behind

573
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: the curtain. I was sloppy with my rundown. So we're

574
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna leave one of these things, and we have four

575
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: things to talk about here about hype trainer smoke screens.

576
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: So first one, Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Matt Canada says,

577
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph has quote a great shot at winning the

578
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: QB job. Now, Matt, I I came into this preseason,

579
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: this training camp season, thinking that it was going to

580
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: be a battle between Mitchell Trubisky and Kenny Pickett. Apparently

581
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: there's an option. See if you believe Matt Canada. So

582
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: I have to ask you, hype train or smoke screen,

583
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: are you really buying into this? I mean, the guy's

584
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: name is Canada. I mean he's got to be telling

585
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: the truth, right basically, Alberta. Yes, So I'm looking at this.

586
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: I've been following this situation very closely because, like you

587
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: I've been kite. Is Trabisky gonna get this starting spot?

588
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: Is it's gonna be Kenny Pickett? Who am I going

589
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: to draft possibly in a super flex league? Is kind

590
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: of been I've been monitored in this whole situation. Well,

591
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: Traubinsky hasn't done very much. It hasn't looked very good

592
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: from all reports that I've been hearing, and Kenny Pickett

593
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: is still a rookie, so I don't think he's going

594
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: to be ready to start right away. So I think

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00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: this really comes down to Trubisky and Mason Rudolph, And

596
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: with Rudolph at least he has some familiarity with this

597
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: offense with Matt Canada here, so I don't think Rudolph

598
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: is going to get it. I still think it's going

599
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: to be true Whisky one's all said and done, but

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00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: I don't think this is necessarily a smoke screen. I

601
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: think that Rudolph maybe actually looking like the best option

602
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: right now of these three, but ultimately it's going to

603
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: be Troubisky basic. It reminds me of basic like growing

604
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: up on the farm here, taking going out there, shoveling

605
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: manure from one pile and moving into the other pile

606
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: the barn is still going to stink. I mean, that

607
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: is exactly what we got going on here in this

608
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: quarterback room. That's a great analogy. I love that. Um,

609
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean Florio, I mean, yeah, I know Mike tom

610
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: One said we shouldn't read into Kinny Pickett working with

611
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: the second team. That I know you guys are going to,

612
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: but you shouldn't read into it. Um. I mean, are

613
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: are you buying into, uh the idea that Mason Rudolph

614
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: could be the starter here? To me, this is the

615
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: ultimate smoke screen. I think there is a zero percent

616
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: chance or point zero point one something like that. I

617
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: understand he's playing well in training camp right now, He's

618
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: not running with the ones. I think that is a

619
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: big reason why we know what Mason Rudolph is every

620
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: time we see Mason Rudolf. Mason Rudolph was so bad

621
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: that he made us miss Big Ben when Big Ben

622
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: missed time the last couple of seasons. Like that is

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00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: all you need to know about Mason Rudolph. I continue

624
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: to be able to mindset that. I don't know if

625
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: he'll start Week one, but I think Kenny Pickett is

626
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: going to start. The vast majority of games for for

627
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: this Steeler's team. If none of your quarterbacks you don't

628
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: feel great about any of them, you're gonna give it

629
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: to the guy who you use the first round pick

630
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: in who was the most NFL ready rookie, because you

631
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: want to know what you have in this kid. And

632
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: and and it's just making him sit a year or

633
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: most of the year. I don't think makes any sense

634
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: so ever since they drafted him twenty overall, my thinking

635
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: has been, Mitch, you got backup money and and that's

636
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of what you're gonna be this year. I I'm

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00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: sort of with you. I think I've I've held to

638
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: the belief that I think Mitch Robinsky starts Week one,

639
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if before too long that

640
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna see Kenny Pickett get the gig Um, especially

641
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: especially if Trubisky struggles. But I think you're gonna see

642
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: pick And get this job because I think I think

643
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: all three of these quarterbacks are fairly even. Um. And

644
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Floria. I think you you end up

645
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: starting the guy that you spent draft capital on, that

646
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: that you you know you have under team control for

647
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: the longest time too right. I mean, you know, you

648
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: you only have Traubinsky Firs short amount of time. You know,

649
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't imagine they're gonna know. I'm not expecting Mason

650
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Rudolph to get the bag and end up with some giant,

651
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: huge extensions. So why wouldn't you at some point turn

652
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: the reins over to Kinny Pickett? So I appreciate you,

653
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: Matt Canada. I love you want to pump up your

654
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: guy here, but um, I don't know if I'm buying

655
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: that one. Uh, A little closer to where I am

656
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: and where Florio is In Los Angeles, Sean McVeigh was

657
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: asked about his running backs, uh specifically Darryll Henderson, and

658
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: he said, quote, I look at it as we've got

659
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: two starting running backs, Matt. That sounds great for the Rams.

660
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: That sounds terrible for us. I know people love cam

661
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: Akers and they want cam Akers to prosper and I

662
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: get it. Um, should we be buying what McVeigh is

663
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: selling here? Is this? Is this a hype train? Is

664
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: this a smoke screen? Oh? This is a smoke screen

665
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: for me altogether? I mean did Henderson flash at times

666
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: last year? Asked? Yeah, sure, he had some good games.

667
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: He had some good runs there, but ultimately he got

668
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: all played by Sony Michelle. We're talking. So for me,

669
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: for McVeigh to say, well I've got two number one

670
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: running backs, I say, pump the brakes. What have we seen?

671
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: McVeigh rely on to running backs. Whoever this running back

672
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: is in this Rams office is going to see like

673
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: a snapshare, whether Acres, I mean even Acres coming back

674
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: from that Achilles rupture there when he was not quite

675
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: a hundred percent, when he was only getting like two

676
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: point three yards per carry, he was still getting eighty

677
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: percent of the touches. So for me, when you tell

678
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: me you might think maybe you have two running backs

679
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: in our top quality. I mean, it's like that guy

680
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: that you're trying to trade within your leagues. They're trying

681
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: to sell you his third running back. He's a starter. Yeah,

682
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: well maybe he might start somewhere else, but he's not

683
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: going to start on this Los Angeles Rams team. It's

684
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: going to be cam Akers all the way through. So

685
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: and you gotta look at Acres. We knock him a

686
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: little bit on those yards for carry, but look at

687
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: those teams that he played against there in that run

688
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: San Francisco twice Arizona, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati all pretty good

689
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: teams against the run. So I'm not worried about cam Akers.

690
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: He's he's almost a full season now removed from that injury.

691
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: We've seen him come back play a little bit. I

692
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: think that's got a factor into it. Darryl Williams is good,

693
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: more of that change of pace kind of guy for me. Yeah, Floria,

694
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: are you are you in on this hype trainer smoke

695
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: screen for with the Rams running backs? If we were

696
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Live right now, Marcus side, we'd have to

697
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: get our arms pumping, uh, because I think this is

698
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: a hype train I I I think that I agree

699
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: with Matt that I think McVeigh ideally likes to use

700
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: one running back, but I don't know if he's gonna

701
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: have that choice. Because I agree. I think it's a

702
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: positive that we saw cam Acres back last year, but

703
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: we saw a very different cam Akers last year without

704
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: that burst. He's one of the players that I'm gonna

705
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: be paying one of the closest eyes to this uh preseason,

706
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: because if he looks like the cam Akers of old,

707
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: then I think this is the smoke streen, the smoke

708
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: screen and I'll bump cam Akers back up my rankings,

709
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of nervous because outside of Kevin Durant,

710
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: who is now the poster boy of like, look, you

711
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: could come back from Achilles injuries like these have historically

712
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: been career enders, especially for running backs. So I I

713
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: am more weary of cam Akers the closer we get

714
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: to the season. And just the fact that he's got

715
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: two running backs that have struggled to stay on the

716
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: field as much as they have, he might not have

717
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: a choice but to use two starting running backs. And

718
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: you said Kevin Durant being the poster boy for I

719
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say like burner Twitter accounts and like,

720
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, snapping snapping back at fans saying negative things. Um,

721
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna call smoke screen, but it's a

722
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: very hesitant smoke screen on this one. Uh. And I

723
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, I apologize for not remembering where I saw it.

724
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I know, I think I feel like multiple people haven't

725
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: mentioned this on Twitter, that generally speaking, McVeigh likes to

726
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: use one guy in a game like when when he can,

727
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: when everybody's healthy, he likes to generally lean on one

728
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: running back and I know it's the thing he said

729
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna do after basically running Todd Gurley into

730
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: the ground for a few years, he said that he

731
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: was probably gonna try to avoid that. But you know,

732
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: to quote the philosopher Sean Carter, you are who you

733
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: are when you got here. So I think Sean Vey,

734
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh is still gonna keep using kind of one

735
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: running back. So I think it's gonna be cam makers

736
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: as much as possible. Maybe you see Darrell Henderson kind

737
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: of get in there and and give him a break

738
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: every once in a while. But I'm gonna I'm gonna

739
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: call a smoke screen, but I also reserve the right

740
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: to take that back, if you know. We get a

741
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: couple of weeks into the preseason and it looks a

742
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: little bit different. So um more running back news, and

743
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you Florio as our resident Bill's

744
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: fan here on this show. But the reports are Zach

745
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Mo quote trending toward having a role in the offense. Uh,

746
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, I know we all love Devin Singletary. James

747
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Cook has been the new hotness and he's getting a

748
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: whole lot of a lot of excitement but now there

749
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: are these reports from camp that maybe's Zack Moss isn't

750
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: quite dead yet or is he? I mean, like I said,

751
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: as as our resident Bills fan here Florio, is this

752
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: high trainer smoke screen. This is pure smoke screen. I

753
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: think this is the Bills trying to boost up Zack

754
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: Moss maybe see if they can get like a late

755
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: round pick to to trade him or something like that. Uh.

756
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: To me, the Bill's backfield cut Like I'm not saying

757
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: anything that no one else has said already, but it

758
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: comes down a Singletary versus James Cook, and like that alone,

759
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: I think is a very big question mark for fantasy.

760
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: So if Zack Moss is in this offense and does

761
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: have a role, this backfield is going to be an

762
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: absolute nightmare. But I mean, he was legitimately a healthy

763
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: scratch multiple times down the stretch last year for Matt Brita.

764
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: Then they went out and they used a premium draft

765
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: pick on James Cook. I think this is purely gonna

766
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: be uh a two man committee between Singletary and Cook

767
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: and maybe I even in fact, I like Duke Johnson

768
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: more than I like Zack Moss. Coming into the season.

769
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Duke Johnson, but for Zack Moss,

770
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: that's that's not great. Alright, So Florida is basically basically

771
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: saying the rolling stone that is the Bill's offense will

772
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: gather no Zack Moss. So, Matt are you? Are you

773
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: in his hype trainer smoke screen on Zack Moss having

774
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: a role in this offense? You know what full fantasy

775
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: managers want. Shame on you. I mean, we almost bought

776
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: into this last season. Remember there's a stretcher. He was

777
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: getting ten plus carries in this Bill's offense. People started

778
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: buying into it. I think week one he had two

779
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: touchdowns to start the season off. People like, Okay, Zack

780
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Moss may have value. No, it's not gonna happen. After

781
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: he got like kicked off the team. I mean we

782
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: didn't really get kicked off the team, but he was

783
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch. I mean, how much worse can you get?

784
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: For you? We saw what Devin Singletary could do, scoring

785
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: a touchdown on the ground in six straight games, including

786
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He had eight of his ted touchdowns over

787
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: that six game stretch, So we know Singletary can get

788
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: the job done. Sure, this is the number one running

789
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: back in Buffalo is still Josh Allen. I mean, if

790
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna get close to goal and he's still gonna

791
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: call his number from time to time, Devin Singletary may

792
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: come in there, and James Cook he's a matchup nightmare

793
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: against linebackers in the passing game. Where where does Moss

794
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: fit in with this? I don't see where he fits in,

795
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: And I agree, I think Duke Johnson is an actual

796
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: better running back than what Zack mosses. So for me,

797
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: this is, hey, let's get Zack Boss a little bit

798
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: of value. Maybe we can get a seventh or a

799
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick. Maybe we cut our losses here

800
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: with him right now. And you know during the off

801
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: season there's gonna be running backs that go down, so

802
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: that may help Zack Boss a little bit as we

803
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: move forward. Yeah, I think I'm gonna make this unanimous.

804
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: I think this is a smoke screen. This is this

805
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: is the Bills trying to showcase their guy a little

806
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: bit and seeing if maybe they can, as you mentioned,

807
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: kind of cut their losses get something back in return.

808
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: Cook is probably gonna be the passing down back. They

809
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: can use him in a lot of different ways, Um,

810
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys mentioned Duke Johnson, and Duke

811
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Johnson has the same problem for me in Buffalo that

812
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: he's had everywhere else he's gone in his career. That

813
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: I think Duke Johnson is a good running back who

814
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: ends up on teams with better running backs. I think

815
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: he's a good He's a good receiver who ends up

816
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: on teams with better receivers. So like he's, you know,

817
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: in baseball parlance, he's kind of that utility player that like,

818
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: hey man, we just need you to eat up a

819
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: few winnings at shortstop while our guys hurt. Like that's

820
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: sort of that's sort of who Duke Johnson is. But

821
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: the fact that you guys both said like you feel

822
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: like he's a better option than Zach Boss I think

823
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: speaks volumes about where Zack Moss is at this exact moment. Alright.

824
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: Last one, Terran Davis Price, And every time I say

825
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Tirian of any sort, I think Game of Thrones. But

826
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: Tian Davis, Price and Jeff Wilson reportedly could be quote

827
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: involved early and often. Now I know, Elijah Mitchell is

828
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: still a popular name. Uh as a giant helicopter flies

829
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: over my house right now. UM, I know that I

830
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: know that Elijah Mitchell still very popular name, uh and

831
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: people are still drafting him very highly. I have said

832
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: repeatedly that I think Terry and Davis Price will be

833
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Fantasy relevant at some point before the season is over.

834
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: But Matt the idea that Heat and Jeff Wilson could

835
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: be involved early and often. Are you Are you buying

836
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: this right now? Um? This was a tough one for

837
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: me because I want to call smoke screen. But we're

838
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: talking about Kyle Shanahan here, which anything is on the table,

839
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: especially at the running back position. Here. What Jenahan likes

840
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: to do is he likes to create mismatches all over

841
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: the field and that's where you can see, Uh Davis

842
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: Price get a little bit run early on in the season.

843
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: But for me, hey, I am a Elijah Mitchell fan.

844
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. We heard he was buried

845
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: last year. Remember Jeffrey Wilson, Tray Sermon, Rahee Monster, these

846
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: are all guys ahead of Elijah Mitchell last year. He

847
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: just missed a thousand yards rushing last season by thirty

848
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: seven yards. You added his receiving yards. He had over

849
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: scrimmage yards and he played in just what twelve games.

850
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell is a great player when he's on the field,

851
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: and I think that's the key thing for people to remember.

852
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: He's going to get a bulk of these carries here

853
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: for the San Francisco for nights that San Francisco was

854
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: fifth in the league in rushing attempts something like thirty

855
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: point four last season. So if Elijah Mitchell's healthy and

856
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: he's on the field, I think he's going to be

857
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: fast irrelevant. I think he's going off as RB twenty

858
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: three right now. You're getting him back into the sixth

859
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: early seventh round. I think he's a guy who can

860
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: outperform that a DP. However, yeah, we haven't been able

861
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: to see him stay healthy, and I think that if

862
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: he goes down early, I think that's where we see

863
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 1: Davis Price step in, even more so than Jeffrey Wilson. Now,

864
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Wilson is one of the guys could really throw

865
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: a whole wrench into the whole system here. If all

866
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden he comes out gangbuster here and looks

867
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: like the better back and gives you some production. Because

868
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Wilson, we've seen him produced from time to time,

869
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: I guess it the best way to put it, So

870
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm not quite buying it involved early and often. But

871
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: like Florio said, here there's a point where Davis Price

872
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: is going to be used because of how Shanahan likes

873
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: to use his running backs. Yeah, so Floria, I mean, like, one,

874
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: are you buying there going to be involved early and often?

875
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: And the the addendum to this question, will Jack Peterson

876
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: be stashing Jeff Wilson on his fantasy roster again? In

877
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: two oh Man the other day when it came out

878
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: that Tommy Families traded but no I was hoping, so

879
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: there was like ten minutes where the team was unknown.

880
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Jock Peterson probably learned his lesson and won't be stashing him.

881
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: But I think this is a hype train for a

882
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: lot of the reasons that Matt said, Like, I agree

883
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: with everything Matt just laid out there that um, I

884
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: think Elijah Mitchell has a lot of upside in this

885
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: in this offense, but I have him ranked as my

886
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: RB right along with Josh Jacobs and Antonio Gibson because

887
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: to me, all of those running backs have the upside

888
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: to be an RB one. But things could just bottom

889
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: out for them, I think, and Mitchell I believe is

890
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: the best of the forty nine is running backs. But

891
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: but again, I do think Shanahan likes to use multiple backs.

892
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: It's what he's done for the bulk of his time

893
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: as a head coach. Um. I also think the fact

894
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: that when we saw Mitchell last year running twenty plus times,

895
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: he missed six games. Uh, so I think we could

896
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: see him maybe dial back a little bit just to

897
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: keep him healthy. Uh. And the thing is, I think

898
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Terran David's Price could be a really good running back

899
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: if Mitchell misses time. But I think Jeff Wilson is

900
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: going to be that thorn in the side that takes

901
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: away like something like eight ten touches a week because

902
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Kyle Shanahan seems to love this guy.

903
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: And then Marcus, I don't know if you saw this,

904
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: Trey Sermon is is getting some high after after we

905
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: spent the whole season just HER's best. And uh, yeah,

906
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: I've seen, I've seen, I've seen the hype on on

907
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: Trey Sermon. Yeah, I don't know. I will say that

908
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: I do think there's a lot of truth behind this. Um.

909
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: You know, look, I mean, we all have to remember

910
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell was a great fine but that also happened

911
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: because there were injuries ahead of him on the depth

912
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: chart last year. Right if if where he most stays healthy,

913
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: if Jeff Wilson stays healthy, Uh, if if Trey Sermon

914
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: doesn't just go bust in his rookie year, I don't

915
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: know that we really see a lot of Elijah Mitchell,

916
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: and he took advantage of the opportunity to his credit,

917
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: so I mean give him, give him total props for that,

918
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think that was the way the forty

919
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: Niners had it drawn up. And so I think when

920
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: we get to this year, I think you're going to

921
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: see a lot more guys sort of work in. Uh.

922
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason that Adam Rank coined the

923
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: phrase shannahanagan so many years ago. I know it started

924
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: with Mike Shanahan, but it has certainly been passed down

925
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: to his son. Uh. That they will use multiple running

926
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: backs and that at times it can be a little

927
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: bit hard to figure out. So I would not be

928
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: surprised at all if we see Jeff Wilson get involved,

929
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: if we see Terry and Davis Price. So I do

930
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: think there is a lot of truth behind that. Now,

931
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: how much they get involved of I think we remain

932
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: to be seen, and how exactly they're used, I think

933
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: we have to kind of wait and see. But that

934
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: is what preseason is for, which, uh fittingly enough gets

935
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: us to the fact that the Hall of Fame game

936
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: kicks off on Thursday from Canton, Ohio. It is the

937
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Raiders, our first actual football ish type game,

938
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: uh that we're going to get to watch this year.

939
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, look, we know that for the Jaguars,

940
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is not going to play. Travis E. T

941
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: N is is sick, so he's not gonna play in

942
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: this game. I don't know how much either of those

943
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: guys would have played anyway if they were healthier ready

944
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: to go. But Matt beyond that, who or what are

945
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: you most interested in watching for him from Thursday night?

946
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: Well Snoop Connor is in the house. So this is

947
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: the guy. I'm excited to watch her because we know

948
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: what this Jacksonville Jaguars backfield looks like. Right now, we

949
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: have Travis E. T N and we've got James Robinson.

950
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: James Robinson's facing that same upheld battle. The Catmakers will

951
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: stay sing last season, so we don't know what James

952
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Robinson is gonna be capable of doing, So that RB

953
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: two spot is essentially up for grabs. And on this

954
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars backfield right now, there's no one behind Snoop Connor.

955
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: So Snoop Connor could somehow find himself into fantasy relevancy

956
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: if he performs well. I mean, it's a good bunch

957
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: of backups and you know Kurtain Jerker's kind of guys

958
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: that are he's gonna be facing against here, against the Raiders,

959
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and we're not talking about their starters here,

960
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: but if Snoop Connor could come out there perform well,

961
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's could find himself sementing himself a spot

962
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: on this roster early on in camp. And we know

963
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Travis Eat and we don't he's coming back from that

964
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: a c L INJURW. He looks like he's but you

965
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: have to worry about his ability, his durability of running

966
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: two between the tackles thirty times a game. And I

967
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: think that's where Snoop Conner comes And if James Robinson

968
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: isn't ready to come back anytime soon, So for me,

969
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm watching Snoop Connor here on the jaguarre side of things,

970
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: and on the radar side of things, I'm looking to

971
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: see who's gonna be that wide receiver three on this team.

972
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: We know Wall has got that tight end position, we

973
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: know Rentfro, we know Adams. But who's the next guy

974
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: up there for the Vegas Raiders? Is it DeMarcus Robinson?

975
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: Is a Keel and Cole mac hall and Tyrone Johnson.

976
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: I mean that is an ugly list of names. None

977
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: of those guys has any fasty relevancy at any point,

978
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: no matter what. Heck z A. Jones is an upgrade

979
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: on all these guys. So for me, if we don't

980
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: see any of these guys kind of emerging in this

981
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Raiders offense, could they then go into that free agency market?

982
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: Will they look at a T Y Hilton will Fuller?

983
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: So there's an incompetency in this Raiders receiving corps. I

984
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: think the Raiders could go ahead and look at free

985
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: agency free agency and pick someone up there along the way.

986
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, will Fuller still hanging out there as a

987
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: free agent. That's a name to maybe how can you

988
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: still be on the I r with a finger injury. Three. Like,

989
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not one to judge here. I sneeze

990
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: and my back is out and I'm done for a week.

991
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: I get it. So I'm not gonna judge anyone for

992
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: a liments that are kind of hurting him here. But

993
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: we're dealing with the finger injury that's lasted like two years.

994
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: It is a bit of a mystery, uh most see.

995
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: But will fully, I imagine somebody will sign him before

996
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: the end of the preseason. I just I can't imagine

997
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: he hangs out there too much longer. Floria, what what

998
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: are you keeping your eye on for this one? To

999
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm I'm gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna watch it.

1000
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: We got football back on the TV again. I think

1001
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Snoop Connor is an interesting one Zamir White on the

1002
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: Raiders because he's getting a lot of fantasy hype as

1003
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: someone who could potentially steal a lot of work away

1004
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: from Josh Jacobs if Kenyan Drake suits up, just to

1005
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: see what he looks like after you know, all the

1006
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: injuries he suffered last season. Um, but to me, this

1007
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: is this is more game to enjoy. You know, maybe

1008
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: maybe Circle a couple of names that catch your eye,

1009
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: But I don't expect to see car Adams, Waller, Renfro

1010
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: We're We're not gonna see Lawrence et N. So, uh,

1011
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: this is more to get to know the depth and

1012
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: and maybe players who could become waiver wired targets or

1013
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: or maybe earn more work as camp goes on it.

1014
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: I think it's it's more to kind of have like

1015
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: a dynasty lens on then to try to find anything

1016
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: that is gonna be like a huge secret redraft. Yeah,

1017
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: I definitely mentioned him your wife. That was a name

1018
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: that sort of popped up into my head too as well.

1019
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: But I think it's fitting. And see that the Florio

1020
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: mentioned Dynasty Matt you are that is one of your specialties.

1021
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: You're with the Dynasty Vipers group up there, And I mean,

1022
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: how should fantasy managers come into this one? Watching this?

1023
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: What I mean is is it just that we should

1024
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: just mostly just sit back and enjoy football on our TV?

1025
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: Or you know, are you are you taking notes on

1026
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: stuff as you're watching this one? So the biggest thing

1027
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: I'm probably taking notes here on is I'm watching the

1028
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: coaches in this game. Both these teams had some serious

1029
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: coaching turmoil last year, John Gruden, Urban Meyer, both those

1030
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: things have been uh we talked about over and over

1031
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: and over again. So and this is also Josh McDaniels

1032
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson's second turn as a head coach in

1033
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: the league. Right now, with these respective clubs, how are

1034
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: these players going to gravitate towards them? How are they

1035
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: going to adjust? I mean, that's one of those things

1036
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm watching here the game, inside the game. I mean,

1037
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: things check get any worse for Jacksonville, right. We we

1038
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: see what happened there. We see how resilient the Raiders

1039
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: were last season dealing with all they have to. But

1040
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: we also know that the Raiders probably kind of like

1041
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: the coach that they had in the intern there before

1042
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: he went off to Green Bay. So it's going to

1043
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how these guys kind of go together,

1044
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: how they pull these two teams together, and see how

1045
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: what happens. I mean, that's probably the biggest thing I'm watching,

1046
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: because hey, it's football back and we're talking week zero

1047
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: here of the preseason, not even a week one, right, So,

1048
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: just like Floria said, sit back, enjoy football. We have

1049
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: football now every week until what February March. I don't know,

1050
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: but we have football back. Every single week until February,

1051
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: there will be a there will be a football game

1052
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: on your television screen somewhere, so definitely looking forward to that. Well, uh, Floria,

1053
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: good to have you back. You and I are gonna

1054
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: get back at this in a real way, really really soon,

1055
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: so it's nice to get you back in the fold. Matt,

1056
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: appreciate you jumping in. For folks who don't know where

1057
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: can they find your stuff? Yeah, you can catch me

1058
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: here on the Dynasty Vipers dot com. I mean I

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Speaker 1: think I did something sixty four articles and forty videos there,

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Speaker 1: so between the website and the YouTube channel. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I do not recommend doing a team by team analysis

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Speaker 1: other top five fantasty assets and then backing that up

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Speaker 1: with the training camp articles on each and every team

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Speaker 1: not not not strongly recommended for one person. So I

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Speaker 1: got that kind of all out of the way so

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Speaker 1: you can catch all that. I put the threads there

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Matt only f HAF you can kind

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Speaker 1: of ball along that way because I know how people

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Speaker 1: love Twitter threads these days, so those are out there

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Speaker 1: for you to catch. And yeah, just follow along here

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Speaker 1: Vipers Network on the YouTube channel Uh Fantasy Uh Points

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Speaker 1: Media Group affiliate there, and hey, hit those news stands because, uh, Marcus,

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Speaker 1: you know as well as I do. We had that

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus magazine that we had contributing there too,

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Speaker 1: where you talk about Miller lte So I mean you

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Speaker 1: got that little cup talk about that. Uh, there's about

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Speaker 1: three different magazines that I was fortunate enough to be

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Speaker 1: part of here, So check those news stands and you

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Speaker 1: might be able to catch me the here and there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Writing for our palat neilcad Lynch. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Bob Harris and I did write along screen where I

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Speaker 1: I invoked the memories of the eighties Miller Lite ad

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Speaker 1: campaign less Filling tastes great, Floria. You're probably way too

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Speaker 1: young to know what I'm talking about there, so I'm

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Speaker 1: sure the sure the commercials are on YouTube, so so

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Speaker 1: definitely go and be sure to check that out as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: before we wrap up the show, I wanted to end

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Speaker 1: today with just, uh a personal tribute. I'm sure many

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Speaker 1: of you saw that on Tuesday night, Vince Scully passed

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Speaker 1: away at the age of ninety four, the long time

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Speaker 1: Dodger announcer and just general sports broadcaster and certainly anyone

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Speaker 1: who who lives or has lived any time in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Vin was was definitely a part of your life. I

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Speaker 1: mean he he embodied l A sports as much as

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Speaker 1: anybody who ever wore a uniform and you know, swung

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Speaker 1: a bat, took a shot, ran a football, whatever. Vin

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Speaker 1: was as much a part of the sports and cultural

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Speaker 1: landscape as anybody in Los Angeles. But even beyond that,

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Speaker 1: just his presence is kind of a sports figure. Was

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Speaker 1: was sort of unavoidable. Um, And I will say that

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Speaker 1: he in part is sort of the roundabout reason that

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Speaker 1: I'm here right now. I at some point decided I

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Speaker 1: wanted to spend my life as a sports broadcaster, and

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Speaker 1: and listening to Vince Scully had a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with it. And you know, I think I don't know

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Speaker 1: that you could have been a kid that grew up

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Speaker 1: during his era, especially growing up in southern California, that

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Speaker 1: I grew up in southern California. But anybody who grew

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Speaker 1: up in Southern California or just heard Vin, Um, at

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Speaker 1: some point you wanted to do that, you wanted to be, that,

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Speaker 1: you wanted to kind of be who he was even

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Speaker 1: to this day, like my dream job would be to

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Speaker 1: be the radio voice of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Um,

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Speaker 1: And so losing losing Vin for me personally, definitely is

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Speaker 1: a sad, sad moment. I think for sports fans in general,

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Speaker 1: it is. Uh, it is a watershed passing moment. And

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Speaker 1: so uh certainly condolences to his family, to the Dodger family,

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Speaker 1: to just sports fans in general. I'm sure on Twitter

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Speaker 1: you have seen plenty of remembrances, plenty of videos going out,

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Speaker 1: and so I wanted to end the show today. Um.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's most known for his work with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: but Vin did a lot of other sports and did

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Speaker 1: football on TV for a little while. And the last

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Speaker 1: football game that he ever called was the ninete NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game between the San Francisco forty Niners in the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at a time when the Cowboys were very

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Speaker 1: much a juggernaut, very much, you know, a favorite to

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Speaker 1: go and win another Super Bowl, and at the time,

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners were an upstart team with a young

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Speaker 1: quarterback named Joe Montana and a wide receiver named Dwight

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Speaker 1: Clark and then was on the call at Candlestick Park

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Speaker 1: when Dwight Clark made what has just now become known

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Speaker 1: as the catch, and afterwards he said that was the

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Speaker 1: last football game he did, in part because it was

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Speaker 1: one of the best football games he's ever seen. So

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Speaker 1: um as my own personal tribute to Vin, who I'm

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Speaker 1: certainly going to miss, who I love um just wanting

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Speaker 1: the show with with his call of the catch. That

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Speaker 1: other it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Happy, Safe, and Healthy, do good, live well, take

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Speaker 1: care of yourselves, take care of each other. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: miss you forever. Then for the rest of you, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week. We have a third and three.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco has used up another time out, but you

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Speaker 1: have fifty nine seconds left in the game. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have two time out, the forty Niners have one, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, for one of the rare times what

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Speaker 1: they thought was gonna be a barn burner with exactly that,

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Speaker 1: And of course for the upstart forty Niners, there's six

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Speaker 1: yards away from Pontiac third and three. We'll see a

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Speaker 1: pick up some time on the right side. Positively, Montana

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Speaker 1: looking looking drawing in the zine twit Clark It's a

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Speaker 1: mad how. Set candle stick with fifty one seconds left