Speaker 1: Okay, y'all, I'm ready for this.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: It's it's our fearless leader, it's our queen, it's our sister,
Speaker 3: it's our.
Speaker 2: There's very few people that I would wake up this
Speaker 2: early for to be.
Speaker 1: I can hear it in your voice.
Speaker 2: You sound I'm fighting from I'm fighting for my life
Speaker 2: right now. But we have so many amazing guests this season,
Speaker 2: but you know the one we got to start with
Speaker 2: our girl.
Speaker 3: Our baby, our sweetheart, our love of our life, the iconic,
Speaker 3: the amazing.
Speaker 4: What's now That's the appropriate level of excitement and screaming
Speaker 4: that I was looking for when I told you when
Speaker 4: I signed.
Speaker 2: On, were saving you. We were saving our excitement.
Speaker 3: When I tell you, guys, we had thirty seconds before
Speaker 3: we gave her the intro, and she was upset because
Speaker 3: we weren't squealing and happy enough to see her.
Speaker 2: We were told that we were not excited enough to
Speaker 2: see her and that we were icing her out. So
Speaker 2: we're off to amazing.
Speaker 4: You two are always icing me out.
Speaker 2: She's always said that since since since.
Speaker 4: You're like, oh, we're mother and son and we have
Speaker 4: a special little thing going on, and you're just the
Speaker 4: third wheel and it just like to make funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're not the third wheel, but we do
Speaker 2: like that, I will say.
Speaker 3: I will say we do every time we're hanging out.
Speaker 3: Not every time, but a lot of times when we're
Speaker 3: hanging out having fun, we will just send her videos.
Speaker 4: Be like what's that?
Speaker 2: Why did not hear?
Speaker 1: And she's like, fuck you guys leaving me out all
Speaker 1: the time. How's it going.
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 4: I have a week of press here for the Lost Bus.
Speaker 4: It's rainy. It's great.
Speaker 1: It's rainy here.
Speaker 2: It is raining here. We're obviously here to talk about
Speaker 2: ugly Betty.
Speaker 3: Hello, We're gonna get into it. Like do you even remember?
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so long ago.
Speaker 4: I mean it was so long ago, and I feel like, wow,
Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm old enough to like forget entire
Speaker 4: like episodes of my life. I'm like, how did I not?
Speaker 4: How do I not remember doing that insane thing? Like
Speaker 4: there's a lot I don't remember. I mean I remember
Speaker 4: the broad Strokes obviously, But have you guys gone back
Speaker 4: and rewatched So America?
Speaker 1: Guess what?
Speaker 3: Mark has never watched the show, so we're doing the
Speaker 3: rewatch and he's watching it for the first time, so
Speaker 3: it's super cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah you never watched the show, well.
Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny. I've seen the pilot and
Speaker 2: I saw and I saw the series finale when they aired.
Speaker 2: But now watching it back, I feel like every episode
Speaker 2: of the week, come in here and recap. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is a good show. Guys, like I really like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think sixteen million people felt the same
Speaker 4: way at the time. But yeah, it wasn't enough for
Speaker 4: you to watch it.
Speaker 2: Mark, it was not enough. But now, in hindsight, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's fun to watch it now because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just don't remember, Like I just don't recall. Like,
Speaker 2: looking at that kid, I'm like, who is that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: That's like a child.
Speaker 4: That must be so crazy. I mean, you were a
Speaker 4: literal baby, a literally I mean look I look at it,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I was a child. I don't feel
Speaker 4: like the same person at all. Yeah, and I can't
Speaker 4: imagine for you you were actually a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's that's a question that
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you to because both of us
Speaker 2: kind of did it when we were so young. You
Speaker 2: were like twenty one when we started.
Speaker 4: Right, I was, I was so young because.
Speaker 2: You know, but like because you were the closest person
Speaker 2: weirdly enough in age to me.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So I mean twenty one and eleven are very very
Speaker 2: disparate ages. But like, yeah, I guess I did want
Speaker 2: to ask you, but you already answered it, Like how
Speaker 2: much you still feel like that that person? Or or not?
Speaker 4: I mean it, I mean, come, I've changed. I mean
Speaker 4: I feel like I've turned into three different people since then,
Speaker 4: you know, since twenty one, luckily, but but you know,
Speaker 4: it's the things like whenever I see you guys, or
Speaker 4: like I ran into Uri last week and I saw
Speaker 4: Chris gorm the week before, or you know, it's like
Speaker 4: I feel right back in that place that we were in.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I still feel all the love and enjoy
Speaker 4: and excitement, and I feel like we could go back
Speaker 4: on set tomorrow and it would feel exactly the same,
Speaker 4: Like it feels like that close in terms of like
Speaker 4: in person I was. I mean, I will say, like
Speaker 4: it's hard to watch yourself when you're in something, and
Speaker 4: I feel like I could not watch myself on the
Speaker 4: show with any any objectivity whatsoever, Like I could not
Speaker 4: tell if this was horrible, if it was great, if
Speaker 4: I was a disaster, and I and I have I
Speaker 4: think when it first came out on Netflix, I like
Speaker 4: think I did like a little like beginning a pandemic.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going to do a Betty really
Speaker 4: like I managed to get through like two episodes, and
Speaker 4: then I was like, this is a lot for me,
Speaker 4: So I'm maybe not going to do that, but but
Speaker 4: I do like watch it and go, like you Mark,
Speaker 4: I'm like that was so good. Yeah, So like I
Speaker 4: can watch myself almost like she's a different person. I
Speaker 4: can to love her and be like she's so cute
Speaker 4: and she's so good, and like, I love Betty. So
Speaker 4: it is fun to have that distance and feel like
Speaker 4: you can watch it with like some notion of objectivit
Speaker 4: and maybe experience what the audience might have experienced. At
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was only able to do that
Speaker 2: like now now, you know, like that was like the
Speaker 2: perfect time. I feel like, yeah, as a teenager or
Speaker 2: like you know, in college and stuff, it just still
Speaker 2: felt weirdly close, whereas now it's just like I feel
Speaker 2: like I've lived a bunch of different lives, but.
Speaker 3: So we've been we've been asking, you know, people or
Speaker 3: like we've I mean, I told my sort of story
Speaker 3: of how I first came upon I mean, I you know,
Speaker 3: every actress who was Latin in La. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about New York, but we all auditioned for Betty and
Speaker 3: then they would I guess they brought people back for
Speaker 3: whatever it was.
Speaker 1: But like, did you did you have to did you
Speaker 1: get the scrip?
Speaker 3: Were you like, oh, I want to do this? Did
Speaker 3: they just offer to you? Like what was your sort
Speaker 3: of intro to Betty.
Speaker 4: It's such a funny intro. My first like intro of
Speaker 4: even knowing that it was a thing that was happening.
Speaker 4: Was I ran into Selma hyaek. I didn't even know
Speaker 4: Selma Hyak. I ran into Selma at the shattaham Arma whatever.
Speaker 4: I was on a day day or whatever, and I
Speaker 4: was on a date. And I know this is before Ryan.
Speaker 4: It was like two thousand and four. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: I only met Ryan in two thousand and five, or
Speaker 4: maybe it was like early two thousand and five. Anyway,
Speaker 4: so it was maybe like a year before the pilot
Speaker 4: was even like actively getting made and I and I
Speaker 4: was there on a date at the chateau, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, like someone like comes running up to
Speaker 4: me and it's Selma Hyak and she's like, you are
Speaker 4: my ugly Betsy. Sorry for that accent. And she was
Speaker 4: like and I was like, what is she even talking about?
Speaker 4: Like we're doing this show and it's this going Tobium
Speaker 4: series and you are my Betty. I know you're my
Speaker 4: bet And I was like, I have no idea what
Speaker 4: he is talking about, like none, And I remember calling
Speaker 4: my agent or email my agent after and being like
Speaker 4: I just had the weirdest interaction, what is she talking about?
Speaker 4: And they're like, yes, there's this show, it's an adaptation.
Speaker 4: They're interested in you. Selma's obviously very excited. And then
Speaker 4: and then I didn't hear about it for like ten months,
Speaker 4: like that was it. I was like, Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 4: But then no one ever said anything about it again,
Speaker 4: and I was like, well, maybe that's not happening. And
Speaker 4: then it was like the end of that year. It
Speaker 4: was like I was in New York doing the off
Speaker 4: Broadway play. I had just moved to New York to
Speaker 4: do an off Broadway play and I was taking classes
Speaker 4: at NYU MARKI, where you went and then it came
Speaker 4: back around and they were like, the pilot's happening. And
Speaker 4: I think the first thing that happened, if I'm remember incorrectly,
Speaker 4: is that Sylvia Hortza and tear Weinberg came to see
Speaker 4: me in Dogs He's God, which was the play that
Speaker 4: I was doing off Broadway, and they were like, the
Speaker 4: producers want to come see you in the play and
Speaker 4: then take you to dinner after and like talk, and
Speaker 4: so they came to the play. We went to some
Speaker 4: fancy sushi restaurant in Midtown, and I like was such
Speaker 4: a nerd and I knocked everything over, Like I literally
Speaker 4: knocked all the water over. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm sorry. I'm really not as clum as. Again,
Speaker 4: of course they're like you are.
Speaker 2: Well, they found her.
Speaker 4: And actually I'm trying to remember at what point I
Speaker 4: watched the Columbian series. At some point before the script
Speaker 4: they sent me the series and they were like, here's
Speaker 4: what it's based on. Watch the series, and I remember
Speaker 4: watching like the first two episodes and being like this
Speaker 4: is incredible, Like this is amazing, this is such a
Speaker 4: perfect setup. Of course, people fall in love with her,
Speaker 4: of course people fall in love with this, like it
Speaker 4: made so much sense. And honestly, I don't think I
Speaker 4: even saw a script till after my audition, or like
Speaker 4: after I got it, I don't know, like then I
Speaker 4: then eventually they were like, they want you to audition
Speaker 4: for the studio, but I was in New York to
Speaker 4: an off Broadway play. That's why it's nice to be
Speaker 4: out of town, I know. And they were like, okay,
Speaker 4: well we'll have we'll put you on tape. You'll go
Speaker 4: to the studio and someone will put you on tape.
Speaker 4: So I showed up at the studio in Queen's actually
Speaker 4: where we ended up shooting season three and four, and
Speaker 4: and there was this. It was the set of like
Speaker 4: Faith and Hope. Was that a show that multi can
Speaker 4: And they sent like a fancy director and shot a
Speaker 4: c on the set. I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 4: not an audition. They like filmed the scene and it
Speaker 4: was the opening scene with me and the poncho and
Speaker 4: me being like, I like your pancho, and I remember
Speaker 4: that there was a big uproar I think because I
Speaker 4: think wires got crossed and hair and makeup just made
Speaker 4: me look like me instead of like benterfying me at all,
Speaker 4: and I think that there was like.
Speaker 1: So you look like glamorous and beautiful.
Speaker 4: I mean, thank you. So I gave with a thing
Speaker 4: where they were like, how is you know, like she
Speaker 4: does that look like ugly bag? Anyway, then that was
Speaker 4: the audition they put me on tape, but it was
Speaker 4: like a real scene that somebody directed on a set.
Speaker 4: And then and then that was that, and then I
Speaker 4: was I remember I was in between shows on dog
Speaker 4: Sy's God, I was like at the pizza place getting
Speaker 4: a slice around the corner and my phone rang and
Speaker 4: I believe that that was Terry and Sylvia calling me
Speaker 4: and they were like, how would you like to be
Speaker 4: our betty?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Did I get it right?
Speaker 2: Is she was shaking your eyes?
Speaker 4: It right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: She had told us the story about the sushi restaurant.
Speaker 2: She was. She knocked everything.
Speaker 3: Was.
Speaker 4: I was a complete mess.
Speaker 2: What was What was your first day on set? Do
Speaker 2: you remember what you shot on your first day? Yes?
Speaker 4: I do remember, But I also Markie, I remember coming
Speaker 4: to do the chemistry you read with you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
Speaker 4: Before that? Had you come into chemistry read with like
Speaker 4: two or three boys or something? And I remember you
Speaker 4: were so oh my god, you were so cute. Okay,
Speaker 4: I kind of remember. Tell me if I'm misremembering this.
Speaker 4: Maybe you don't even I don't even know if I remember.
Speaker 4: Like right before your audition you were like miss Parara,
Speaker 4: I just want to say, I just want to say,
Speaker 4: Miss fer a huge fan of yours. I'm really inspired
Speaker 4: by you and your work.
Speaker 2: Do you remember, Yes, yes, I do, because well I
Speaker 2: remember very distinctly. I don't remember saying miss Fererra, but
Speaker 2: probably sure the child actor. The child actor jumped out, no,
Speaker 2: I I remember so distinctly, like we were sitting in
Speaker 2: the waiting room and I think that there was like
Speaker 2: it was like me and one other boy that was
Speaker 2: sitting there, and uh, you got out of the elevator,
Speaker 2: and I was like, to my mom, it was the
Speaker 2: first time that I had ever been like starstruck, because
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, I loved Sisterhood of the
Speaker 2: Traveling Pants and so this was like on the heels
Speaker 2: of that. And I just like looked at my mom
Speaker 2: and I was like, Mom, that's Carmen, and she was
Speaker 2: like she was like just like relax and then obviously
Speaker 2: like I'm starting to like freak out, and but I
Speaker 2: remember it being I remember everyone being so warm in
Speaker 2: the room, like Sylvia and you and everyone as being
Speaker 2: like you, it's it's fine, just like do it and whatever.
Speaker 2: And I think we did the scene. We did the
Speaker 2: scene on the Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I remember that so well. And of course
Speaker 4: you walked out and everyone was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: that's totally him.
Speaker 2: With my gap teeth and my braces and phile, hello, helloo,
Speaker 2: still have it.
Speaker 4: My first day on set was like kind of thrown
Speaker 4: at me because the night before, because I was we
Speaker 4: were supposed to shoot some scenes and then Sylvia calls
Speaker 4: me the night before and goes, so we don't have
Speaker 4: a Wilhelmina because the actors in cast they fir and
Speaker 4: and but they hadn't yet made the deal with Vanessa,
Speaker 4: I guess. And it was like, so we don't have
Speaker 4: a Wilhelminas, so we're switching things around for tomorrow. We're
Speaker 4: doing this other scene. We're turning the Wilhelmina parts into
Speaker 4: into Amanda. And I never Oh, I probably met Becky
Speaker 4: at the table. We'd be like, I didn't know anyone,
Speaker 4: None of us knew anyone really, and it was Oh
Speaker 4: my god, they just threw me right into the lionstead.
Speaker 4: It was literally the first scene was the scene where
Speaker 4: I had to walk out in that in the pilot,
Speaker 4: in that red latex latex pleather woody shorts cult with
Speaker 4: all the models doing like that crazy photos and me
Speaker 4: going to like, you look like you're gonna vomit, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh god, I feel so bad.
Speaker 4: For you and laughing. The hardest part of the pilot.
Speaker 4: It was the first thing we shot. And and then
Speaker 4: it was like me running out and Daniel coming behind
Speaker 4: me and me being like you think of a joke,
Speaker 4: and it was like it was very it was very trauma.
Speaker 1: Right into the fire, like that's the thing real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because then.
Speaker 4: We ended up reshooting that scene or doing like a
Speaker 4: not not a complete reshoot, but they wanted, like I
Speaker 4: think they ended up just like adding a shot, but
Speaker 4: we ended up reshooting that moment where I walk out
Speaker 4: of the dressing room in that outfit and they're all
Speaker 4: laughing at me. I was like, great, would love to
Speaker 4: go back to this moment and not now America. Now
Speaker 4: America would not care about twenty one years ago, as
Speaker 4: you know, having some trouble and we had to reshoot it.
Speaker 4: But then at the end of the day they only
Speaker 4: ended up like inserting one like shot of me making
Speaker 4: a face so that I didn't look so sad.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 2: You were too sad, well ambetizing.
Speaker 4: They're like, this is virgin On depressing its devastation, so sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we do a whole thing of like fashion
Speaker 3: flops and fashion thaves of each episode. But since since
Speaker 3: this is the beginning of it all, do you have
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really difficult because with Betty, you know,
Speaker 3: we couldn't really do like a fashion flop because you
Speaker 3: weren't a flap necessarily, but you were always so eccentric looking,
Speaker 3: like Betty's looks were always so sort.
Speaker 1: Of Betty, did you have any.
Speaker 3: Sort of involvement in like creating her vibe or her
Speaker 3: whole because she was never like dumpy or frumpy or
Speaker 3: anything like that. No, it was very real, very cool,
Speaker 3: Like now that's what people are, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean that's the genius of pat Field, right, is
Speaker 4: like it takes someone who really knows what they're doing
Speaker 4: to do bad. Well, that's like to do something that
Speaker 4: looks quote unquote bad, but actually it's so fun to
Speaker 4: look at and for some reason works it shouldn't work,
Speaker 4: And that's Pat Field's genius and the thing that all,
Speaker 4: you know, I remember before the pilot, there was so
Speaker 4: much talk around like obviously, what was Betty going to
Speaker 4: look like? You know, how are we going to pull
Speaker 4: off this network ugly? Right? She's ugly, you know, quote
Speaker 4: unquote the fish out of water and looks kind of
Speaker 4: a mess to these fashion people, but also not unsightly
Speaker 4: and unseemly, because God forbid we you know, perturbed the
Speaker 4: network gods need to look at pretty people on television.
Speaker 4: But we it was like, is she gonna are they
Speaker 4: gonna have drawn pimples? I remember that was a co
Speaker 4: and it was like what are we gonna do? Like
Speaker 4: bangs or no bangs? And glasses and how how ridiculous
Speaker 4: is the clothing going to get? And I remember, you know,
Speaker 4: we had tried on a million different things and finally
Speaker 4: we got to something that Pat liked and she was
Speaker 4: like yeah, yes, and she was like looking at me.
Speaker 4: And then there were all these glasses on a table
Speaker 4: and I tried on all these glasses and it was
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, And then Pat takes the glasses
Speaker 4: off her face, puts them on me, and there Betty's
Speaker 4: iconic red glasses for pat Fields glasses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there.
Speaker 4: Was this moment when the glasses went on and we
Speaker 4: looked in the mirror and it.
Speaker 1: Was like.
Speaker 4: Her Like I just got the chills thinking about that
Speaker 4: moment because it was like it was such a guess.
Speaker 4: It was such a like she's here, like she's arrived,
Speaker 4: this is our bed and so yeah, it was so
Speaker 4: fun to really like explore and find it together. And
Speaker 4: Pat was always so collaborative and also just like such
Speaker 4: a genius. I feel like I learned so much about
Speaker 4: about good tailoring, about good fitting, like how things should
Speaker 4: fit my body, Like it was like being in a masterclass.
Speaker 4: Every time I was in.
Speaker 2: A it was.
Speaker 3: I always loved fittings. I thought the fittings were some
Speaker 3: of the most fun times I ever had.
Speaker 4: For sure, I hated them because there as I was
Speaker 4: always exhausted and they'd bring me and I know that
Speaker 4: might but then once I got in the clothing, it
Speaker 4: was so fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that the in watching it too,
Speaker 2: because from the pilot to then moving to La right,
Speaker 2: is that Pat didn't do we're talking about the first season,
Speaker 2: so like Pat only did the pilot, but I feel
Speaker 2: like some of the but some there were a few characters,
Speaker 2: namely the upcourse of Betty, but I thought that Hilda
Speaker 2: and Wilhelmina were pretty realized or not. Mark, We're pretty
Speaker 2: like like it transitioned over like pretty well too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Hilda and Mark were definitely the most
Speaker 3: realized for that time. I don't think I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: Wilhelmina had.
Speaker 2: Well, oh well, I mean what we what we're talking
Speaker 2: another caveat to the segment of flop or fearce or
Speaker 2: whatever we're calling it is. There's been a lot of
Speaker 2: hair stories told on this on this shows of it
Speaker 2: all for real it is it is no truly, I'm
Speaker 2: talking mostly about.
Speaker 3: The hair moments about in the first moments of silence,
Speaker 3: like just like, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 2: What happened me?
Speaker 1: Did it look like girl?
Speaker 2: Girl? It looked like plastic hair? I at one point
Speaker 2: Party City Halloween Tipper.
Speaker 3: At one point Hilda has like I had like it
Speaker 3: looked like a horsetail just glued onto the side of
Speaker 3: my head.
Speaker 2: You're like, go back and look at it.
Speaker 3: It looks bonkers bananas, like what are we?
Speaker 4: What is?
Speaker 2: And we also have been talking about how Wilhelmina's poof
Speaker 2: on top of her head as an episode will go on,
Speaker 2: it just grows larger and larger and larger until she
Speaker 2: has like a Marie Antoinette kind of situation going unreal.
Speaker 4: While for us all to find hard, we're.
Speaker 3: Also I think part of it was like because you
Speaker 3: know it what there was so much sort of turmoil
Speaker 3: with the you know, with getting the show and getting
Speaker 3: the and having support from the network and having support
Speaker 3: from the powers that be, so we had like you know,
Speaker 3: we were trying to make a dollar out of fifteen cents.
Speaker 1: So it's like we did have probably I did probably
Speaker 1: have a ponytail from party seat.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, like a three dollars ponytail that they
Speaker 3: like bobby pins you could have.
Speaker 4: Couldn't make it. I didn't make it any easier on
Speaker 4: the hair and makeup team because so for the pilot
Speaker 4: when we shot the pilot in New York and then
Speaker 4: we moved to la But for the pilot, they made
Speaker 4: a decision to use my hair but like glue on
Speaker 4: every day, like a weft.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that it was your hair in
Speaker 2: the pilot.
Speaker 4: So it was my hair that they would fry and
Speaker 4: single effing day fry it and make it frizzy and
Speaker 4: big and then tease it all day. Oh so you
Speaker 4: come home destroyed and then they would glue. They would
Speaker 4: clue and then they keeel the glue off in it,
Speaker 4: Like my my hairline had like receded back. How do
Speaker 4: we know this?
Speaker 2: I wish I could have seen that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the hair drama started early.
Speaker 1: The hadrama.
Speaker 4: When the pilot ended, I we didn't even know if
Speaker 4: the show was going. I was like, my hair was
Speaker 4: so destroyed. And I was also like traumatized from like
Speaker 4: how long it would take and whatever.
Speaker 2: I was just.
Speaker 4: Walking down the street one day in New York, like
Speaker 4: passed a salon and I was like, I'm chopping it off,
Speaker 4: like it was so so then I went and like
Speaker 4: chopped it off to my ears, like this crazy pixil
Speaker 4: cut that I never should have gotten as a random
Speaker 4: salon in New York. And and I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: show goes there. If they show goes, they'll have to
Speaker 4: use a wig because like I don't, my hair is
Speaker 4: going to be destroyed and so so then the pilot
Speaker 4: did get picked up, and then I had no hair,
Speaker 4: and like I couldn't even do like bangs or anything.
Speaker 4: So there was so I kind of added to the
Speaker 4: drama because I kind of dropped on my hair upic
Speaker 4: and and then at first, you guys, the first solution
Speaker 4: was was to I wonder if we did any episodes
Speaker 4: with this version of it, was to give me extensions,
Speaker 4: but my own hair was so they gave me these
Speaker 4: extensions no mirror so and the extensions were like six straight, like.
Speaker 3: You know, right, yeah, And and I wake.
Speaker 4: Up in the morning extensions would be stick straight, and my.
Speaker 2: Hair so they really like they like glued them in
Speaker 2: or like they sewed them into your head at a
Speaker 2: certain point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they sent me somewhere to get the extensions.
Speaker 4: But it was the most frighting. It was woke up
Speaker 4: in the morning, and I think Ryan was just like, no,
Speaker 4: and you waking up with like my hair and an
Speaker 4: half ro but was incredible. I'm so curious if we
Speaker 4: ever even shot No. So I feel like you were
Speaker 4: so awful that they were.
Speaker 3: Like no, no, the wings are crazy, but not like that, No.
Speaker 2: Not not that that.
Speaker 4: No, they would of course straighten my hand.
Speaker 1: No, I know, no, you could tell this was away.
Speaker 2: No, you could tell it was a way yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then you know, we struggled with the like drawing
Speaker 4: on my brows, what are my brows supposed to look like?
Speaker 4: Are they going to glue like individual hairs to my face?
Speaker 4: And then they're moving all day and then there's an
Speaker 4: you know, there's an eyebrow hair up on my forehead
Speaker 4: in the middle of the take, and like then it
Speaker 4: was like no, no, no, we'll draw them on. But
Speaker 4: then they look like caterpillars. It was like it was
Speaker 4: a real Yeah, it was a real journey to find it.
Speaker 2: It was even but even getting to now, you know,
Speaker 2: we've watched quite a few that it's like before this
Speaker 2: this air, but that did you start to see that
Speaker 2: it starts to become like even better, like better and
Speaker 2: better as time goes on. But the first the first
Speaker 2: few episodes were very growing pains. Yeah, yeah, there was
Speaker 2: the plastic hair, the you know but we oh, but
Speaker 2: we I love this question. Wait, hold on, we just
Speaker 2: heard and saw you hysterically laughing for real. But one
Speaker 2: of the things that Anna and I have always made
Speaker 2: fun of you for is not being able to fake laugh.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you remember you used to make poor
Speaker 3: Chris gorm because this is later on in the in
Speaker 3: the season, y'all, but bear with us, like when Henry
Speaker 3: comes through, When Chris Cora's character Henry comes through, and
Speaker 3: he would have to like make you giggle and laugh,
Speaker 3: and he would tell a stupid joke and you were like,
Speaker 3: that's not funny.
Speaker 1: You're not making me laugh.
Speaker 2: What can I say?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it wouldn't make me laugh, but that would
Speaker 3: make you laugh telling him he wasn't funny, but then
Speaker 3: we were.
Speaker 4: And if I would just laugh bad, then I would
Speaker 4: laugh for real at that's right, right? But the yeah,
Speaker 4: that is still true to this day. I don't know
Speaker 4: how to fake laugh, which makes me think like there's
Speaker 4: something wrong with my deep soul, Like, what's wrong girl? Laugh?
Speaker 4: I just feel like you, in particular, Honor, I really
Speaker 4: really like envy this and you you can laugh at anything.
Speaker 4: It's just sad because I also love making you laugh,
Speaker 4: and I never know if it's real or.
Speaker 2: Not, because you're like, she does have a really good
Speaker 2: fake laugh. I do have a good fake laugh, but I.
Speaker 1: Do generally find a lot of shit for me.
Speaker 4: You find, you find a lot funny, and that's what
Speaker 4: I envy. I'm like, I wish that I was quick
Speaker 4: to laugh at everything, and I'm just a little bit more. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's how I want to be more like you in
Speaker 4: the way that you're like so generous with your laughter.
Speaker 4: And apparently I'm a.
Speaker 5: Stingy you are not.
Speaker 2: You are like, No, I.
Speaker 4: Can't think. But it's also true that I could never
Speaker 4: hold in my laughter. That's why how many tastes did
Speaker 4: I ruin?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Those are the best. I wish we had the outtakes
Speaker 1: of all of those.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like there's got to I don't
Speaker 2: know if those blooper reels. Yeah, the blooper reels exist somewhere,
Speaker 2: Terry saying that she has them. We should definitely we
Speaker 2: should watch them.
Speaker 4: Part of your show.
Speaker 2: We know we definitely should.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: No, No, you, Oh do you remember?
Speaker 1: Do you remember when we were shooting the pilot? Can
Speaker 1: I tell the story?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: You can.
Speaker 3: You can tell you when we all went out to
Speaker 3: lunch we were shooting the family scene. We went out
Speaker 3: to lunch, me and Tony and Markie and we were
Speaker 3: coming up and.
Speaker 1: You were like, you guys, it feels like we just
Speaker 1: feel like such a real family. This is so amazing,
Speaker 1: Like Tony, you feel.
Speaker 3: Like my dad, and I was just like my crazy sister,
Speaker 3: and Mark you is just like this cute little my
Speaker 3: gay nephew. And Marky turns around because Justin's gay.
Speaker 4: I do remember that. I remember that. And the thing is,
Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think you guys. Let me
Speaker 4: in on on Markey like his reaction because I was
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, I was like Tony, you're like my
Speaker 4: and Hannah you're just like my sister. And Mark it's
Speaker 4: like you're my game?
Speaker 2: Have you?
Speaker 4: And he just like looked at me and smiled and
Speaker 4: then we like hugged and then like I walked away already,
Speaker 4: and I think he probably turned to you and was like,
Speaker 4: Justin's gay.
Speaker 1: Must have been.
Speaker 2: I was the last to know, but then watching it, Hey,
Speaker 2: I came in and was just like gay gay, the
Speaker 2: gay is gay?
Speaker 4: Wait wait but Mark, okay, weld On. I know you're
Speaker 4: doing the interview, but like, I mean that was a
Speaker 4: journey for you. Yeah yeah, I mean when did you?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I don't even know what
Speaker 4: the question is like, so I'm the one who broke
Speaker 4: it to you that Justin was gay, probably, And I
Speaker 4: remember like those moments where like the press was like
Speaker 4: awful to you and they ask you really awful questions,
Speaker 4: and was it like did you ever find I don't know,
Speaker 4: did you ever like I mean obviously, like when we
Speaker 4: were on set, like we did nothing but love you
Speaker 4: and surround you with like so much fun and laughter
Speaker 4: and joy and fun. But like, was it hard the
Speaker 4: whole way through? Did it ever get easier to like
Speaker 4: I think this kid who people projected so much onto, I.
Speaker 2: Think it got Honestly, I think it got harder as
Speaker 2: I got older. I think that there was such an
Speaker 2: innocence of like the kind of the first two seasons
Speaker 2: of just because I hadn't I never was even thinking
Speaker 2: about my sexuality at that time. I think that when
Speaker 2: I started kind of like discovering who I was and
Speaker 2: what my sexuality was. As I like went into teenage years,
Speaker 2: I think it got harder to deal with because it
Speaker 2: was like, on one hand, I was surrounded by so
Speaker 2: much love and support, but then it was like the
Speaker 2: opposite by like the press and stuff like that. So
Speaker 2: I kind of was like, is it is it okay
Speaker 2: for me to be gay or not? Or you know,
Speaker 2: I kind of was struggling with that, and I think
Speaker 2: that that's part of the reason why I didn't really
Speaker 2: watch the show until now, and so now I just
Speaker 2: it feels so far away that and I've done so
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I've come so far, and I'm
Speaker 2: so like proud of my sexuality and like it's just
Speaker 2: I don't even really think about it as such anymore.
Speaker 2: And also socially and culturally, I think that a lot
Speaker 2: has has changed. I think, you know, based on but you.
Speaker 3: Really were like the first kid, you know, young kid
Speaker 3: who was for I mean, it was obvious that you
Speaker 3: were gay. It was referenced all the time on the show.
Speaker 3: You know, you're sort of like the you know, even
Speaker 3: in that episode of the Halloween episode where again we'll
Speaker 3: get there, you guys, but you know where it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, I hope the kid knows how to throw
Speaker 3: a punch, and like it was just constantly sort of
Speaker 3: alluded to of that. It wasn't set out right, but
Speaker 3: it was definitely in the script. You know, it's definitely
Speaker 3: in the in the story, I mean, and nobody else
Speaker 3: was doing that.
Speaker 2: No. I mean, but nobody else is doing a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that we did on the show. I mean,
Speaker 2: like that's true.
Speaker 3: I mean that, I mean, has that sort of like
Speaker 3: a has that sort of been? I mean, we're watching
Speaker 3: it and it's so incredible how there was so much
Speaker 3: that we touched on that's now coming around again and
Speaker 3: still is sort of even more at the forefront, the immigration,
Speaker 3: the the healthcare, the especially within the Suarez family, that
Speaker 3: sort of.
Speaker 1: Thing that we were dealing.
Speaker 3: With, and we did with such like empathy but also
Speaker 3: such humor.
Speaker 1: And it was never like finger.
Speaker 3: Wagging, did you have any like what was that? I
Speaker 3: know what that we sort of talked about a little
Speaker 3: bit for us, But how was that for you?
Speaker 1: Because that was your you know show.
Speaker 4: I was always so proud of that part of it,
Speaker 4: you know, And I think and I agree with you,
Speaker 4: like because it was a comedy and the writer is
Speaker 4: always strived to make it about the characters. We were
Speaker 4: able to do so much and and just by these
Speaker 4: characters and the brilliant actors playing them. You had so
Speaker 4: much love for them that the writers could had so
Speaker 4: much latitude with what they could explore. You know, Yes,
Speaker 4: I remember the health like the storyline about Buppy and
Speaker 4: like his health insurance, and obviously the deportation, and of
Speaker 4: course Justin's ongoing identity. But I also remember, like one
Speaker 4: of my favorite episodes season three or four was like
Speaker 4: the one where Mark and I are in competition for
Speaker 4: this one spot at this like junior editor training thing,
Speaker 4: and and and then it becomes all about like a
Speaker 4: DEI issue.
Speaker 1: You know, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it that I got that I got
Speaker 4: the job because I was DEI, you know, and dealing
Speaker 4: with that, and like you're right, there was, you know,
Speaker 4: and I haven't gone back and watched it. And my
Speaker 4: sense is that there's probably some jokes that like we
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able.
Speaker 3: To tell it to me, Oh girl, we have a
Speaker 3: whole like we have a whole section that we say
Speaker 3: like leave it or keep it?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like could you say that in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five, Yeah, yeah, you know, when the whole thing
Speaker 4: of like Rebecca playing trance right, And at the time
Speaker 4: it was huge because there had not been a regular transcarrot,
Speaker 4: like a series, regular trans character on a broadcast show
Speaker 4: that way. So it was like huge, this big progressive
Speaker 4: step forward and these days, you know, we'd get canceled
Speaker 4: for not casting a trans person in that room. And
Speaker 4: so it's like you can only you've got to watch
Speaker 4: it with that, you know, with that in mind of like, well,
Speaker 4: you we only lived it forward and lived in the
Speaker 4: time that we were in. But I agree that, you know,
Speaker 4: to me, it's what it was the balance of the
Speaker 4: show why it was so emotional and heartwarming but funny
Speaker 4: and ridiculous. It like we were we really they weren't
Speaker 4: afraid to touch a lot of real issues. And I
Speaker 4: do think that the Suarrez family is what gave the
Speaker 4: show so much grounding and so much heart and why
Speaker 4: we could explore the issues of you know, class inequality
Speaker 4: and all of that stuff. Like, yeah, to me, that
Speaker 4: was that was the real magic of the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so interesting because we did have sort of
Speaker 3: the heart of the Suarez, you know where I mean
Speaker 3: the heart of the show, which was what I think
Speaker 3: the Suarez has. But then you go to mode and
Speaker 3: it's like was I mean the thing is that with
Speaker 3: like with Mark and Wilhelmina and Amanda constantly sort of
Speaker 3: you know, like pranking you and dogging you out and
Speaker 3: like constantly like making fun of you.
Speaker 2: Was that?
Speaker 1: I mean it was so hilarious and so much fun.
Speaker 3: I mean it looked fun from us, but I mean
Speaker 3: it couldn't have ever just sort of like worn down me.
Speaker 4: No, no, oh my god, it made me laugh.
Speaker 3: I mean those blueper reels because I think that's when
Speaker 3: you really broke up.
Speaker 1: Was like all because working with Michael uri.
Speaker 4: But I think that's why it worked, because I think
Speaker 4: underneath people could tell how much love there was, you know,
Speaker 4: even in the characters like they were horrified by her,
Speaker 4: but you could tell, you know, in the genius of
Speaker 4: Michael and Becky, and also just how much we all
Speaker 4: loved each other so much that it was like the
Speaker 4: teasing was there and the awfulness was there, but you
Speaker 4: knew that there was love underneath it. And I never
Speaker 4: felt anything but like so much joy playing those scenes.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and you know, because.
Speaker 4: We just broke all the time and laughed and tried
Speaker 4: to like, you know, one up each other, and it
Speaker 4: was it was just such a blast.
Speaker 3: And then Ashley would come through and at least you
Speaker 3: had her, you know, you had Christina on your side
Speaker 3: always sort of like taking up for you when she
Speaker 3: was so flipping funny. We were talking about how she
Speaker 3: had said they or some terry said that. At one point,
Speaker 3: we're thinking, like maybe that she should do an American
Speaker 3: accent and not have not do her Scottish accent.
Speaker 2: And it was like.
Speaker 3: Ba because the conceit, the conceit of Vanessa never being
Speaker 3: able to understand what she said.
Speaker 2: I can't understand her mark she.
Speaker 4: I remember that in the pilot. I'll never forget that
Speaker 4: she had. There was a line the first time that
Speaker 4: I'm in the closet in the pilot and she's talking
Speaker 4: to me and she said something about like better up,
Speaker 4: And every time I hear the word burlap, I just
Speaker 4: think of, actually, she's the cool list.
Speaker 2: I remember when we finished with the show, and I
Speaker 2: remember the very last time that the very last like
Speaker 2: Suarez moment. I remember everyone just not being able to
Speaker 2: kind of control themselves. But so, but what did it
Speaker 2: feel like saying goodbye to her.
Speaker 4: In the at the in the pilot or at the end.
Speaker 1: Of at the end.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was so devastating. I mean and
Speaker 4: I and I had to do it twice because I
Speaker 4: remember our last Oh my god, you guys, I'm going
Speaker 4: to cry. I'm not going to cry. I remember our
Speaker 4: last night queens, like in front of the house, honor,
Speaker 4: are you gonna cry? You?
Speaker 1: I read because I have all these pictures because Paloma
Speaker 1: was there.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, she was like a little bit stop guys,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're so we are.
Speaker 4: I was like, not expected. Why am I so emotional?
Speaker 4: And I yeah, that was such a hard night. I mean,
Speaker 4: I just remember, like it was just so much love.
Speaker 4: It's like so grateful for that it happened. And I
Speaker 4: think the true thing about really all of us on
Speaker 4: the show is I don't think we took a second
Speaker 4: of it for granted. Like I think we were all
Speaker 4: for the whole four years, for the whole eighty how
Speaker 4: many eighty eight how many episodes did we do? I
Speaker 4: don't know, eighty four eighty eight episodes. I just feel
Speaker 4: like we knew, we understood the magic that we were
Speaker 4: getting to live with each other, and it was just
Speaker 4: devastating every time I choot my last with you know,
Speaker 4: I remember my last scene with Becky and Michael and
Speaker 4: we just all got into one trailer and cried and
Speaker 4: hugged each other, you know, And my last scene with
Speaker 4: Wilhelmina you know, so it like the goodbyes happened. But
Speaker 4: I remember our last last scene in New York was
Speaker 4: in Queens in front of the house, and I remember
Speaker 4: Betty having to drive away in the car and turn
Speaker 4: around and say goodbye, and it was just like it
Speaker 4: was devastating. I remember like that I just slept for
Speaker 4: I don't know, like seventeen hours.
Speaker 3: I think he actually did sleep for seventeen hours after that.
Speaker 3: I remember that so vividly.
Speaker 4: But then my last last scene was in London.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Eric.
Speaker 4: And I had the last Betty Daniel scene in Leicester Square.
Speaker 4: But then I had my very last moment like alone
Speaker 4: in front of in front of a West End theater
Speaker 4: where Betty was meeting some like random London friend or
Speaker 4: whatever for and like and I remember too it felt
Speaker 4: so lonely because the camera was like across the street
Speaker 4: and like Silvio and Richard and Victor were all like
Speaker 4: behind the monitor across the street, and I was like
Speaker 4: by myself on this random street in London, and they yelled,
Speaker 4: that's a wrap, and I was like.
Speaker 6: Oh, by myself in London, like like numb, like not
Speaker 6: understanding what it meant for the show to be over
Speaker 6: and just and like it took like a good couple
Speaker 6: of minutes for everyone else to get across the street,
Speaker 6: so that I you know, but it was like it
Speaker 6: was such.
Speaker 4: A surreal.
Speaker 1: Thing.
Speaker 4: It felt like there were multiple ends, but that like
Speaker 4: very very last end was And again I feel like
Speaker 4: I like it took me forever to process it that
Speaker 4: it was that it was really like over because it
Speaker 4: was just like it was a dream. I mean, obviously
Speaker 4: we all had our challenges and it, you know, every
Speaker 4: every experience has its ups and downs. But I just
Speaker 4: feel like none of us ever wavered in knowing like
Speaker 4: that we had lightning in a bottle, and particularly like
Speaker 4: with all these people that we loved so much and
Speaker 4: still loved so much.
Speaker 2: Did you keep anything? Did you take anything? Like from statute?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the statute of Limitations?
Speaker 2: So we've discussed how much we took everything, and that's
Speaker 2: brought a moving van.
Speaker 1: That looked like her whole friend. What did you say?
Speaker 4: I took the original? I think I have it. I
Speaker 4: think that gave it to me. We're one of the
Speaker 4: original Ponchos. I'm sure there's more than one, but and
Speaker 4: every every Sunday I take it out and I wear
Speaker 4: it all day and you're like creepy when you stop. Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I don't. I've never I've never bound caused
Speaker 4: put it on.
Speaker 2: That would be so iconic, so sad you just sit around.
Speaker 4: No, but yeah, I yeah, but I I I'll never
Speaker 4: forget you too. After wrap like running around this ware's house,
Speaker 4: like grab.
Speaker 2: Utility, this is This was on the back of the
Speaker 2: this is mine. This was on the back of the couch. Eh,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 1: The real one from the couch?
Speaker 4: Did that's the real one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I like like little knick knacks and things,
Speaker 2: you know, I like one like end table, but I
Speaker 2: have like little lamps and things like that. I was
Speaker 2: just grabbing stuff. Yeah, but I was. That's I was curious.
Speaker 2: I was curious if you had the braces too.
Speaker 4: I think I do. We also had a bajillion sets.
Speaker 4: Yeah I know, and this is like of course jumping
Speaker 4: seasons ahead and but like the greatest irony of those
Speaker 4: damn braces as that the whole time I had my
Speaker 4: perfect smile those ugly braces underneath. And in the episode
Speaker 4: where the braces come off, I went in to rehearse
Speaker 4: and it was something in the scene Betty's braces get stuck.
Speaker 4: Do you remember this the dress that's on a mannequin,
Speaker 4: And so the only way to get her off the
Speaker 4: dress and not ruined the dress is for them to
Speaker 4: call in a doctor and take the braces off. And
Speaker 4: that's like how Betty's braces come off. And we were
Speaker 4: rehearsing the scene in the moment where my teeth gets
Speaker 4: stuck to the thing and I run into the mannequin
Speaker 4: and chip, like I really chip my front tooth, like
Speaker 4: a third of my tooth, And it was like, are
Speaker 4: you kidding me? Like in the episode where the braces
Speaker 4: come off and imposed to have perfect teeth, like literally
Speaker 4: on the day, that is outrageous, And they have let
Speaker 4: some emergency orthodontist come to the set and like put
Speaker 4: some sort of you know, cap on it to get
Speaker 4: me through the day. And then it was a nightmare.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was the great irony of those damns.
Speaker 1: You do have perfect teeth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also that those braces were on for a
Speaker 2: long time when your teeth were so perfect.
Speaker 4: Why did Betty have braces on for three years?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like ten years.
Speaker 4: I just assumed they didn't have the money to get
Speaker 4: them off, like I don't.
Speaker 2: We'll suspend disbelief for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll ask you.
Speaker 3: Well, let's us let's talk about the Golden Globes, because
Speaker 3: that happened like like a second out.
Speaker 2: Of the gate.
Speaker 3: I think we had aired like three episodes and you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 4: No, well, because we premiered in September, you know, and
Speaker 4: then the Globes durre in January, so maybe like all.
Speaker 3: The nominations came out when the nominations, Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: think that was such a dream.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: Then our hair budget came up a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right, stopped having.
Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm sure you guys agree, Like it
Speaker 4: just feels like it's felt like, yeah, like a fever dream,
Speaker 4: like like you're on a you know, like you're in
Speaker 4: a crazy, cloudy haze and you're not really experiencing any
Speaker 4: of it like in the present moment. I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like for me, it was like my first time ever
Speaker 4: at like a major award show. We're nominated for everything,
Speaker 4: this show wits. I went like it was.
Speaker 1: Just like it was such.
Speaker 4: A crazy girl wind and I remember that I'm so
Speaker 4: glad we have that one picture of all of us.
Speaker 4: I know that that Alan Dale like.
Speaker 1: Had friends, and I do love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I still have that very prominently displayed
Speaker 4: in my office. But it's it's yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 4: feel like that night was such a fever dream and
Speaker 4: and I mean i'd love I don't know, I it
Speaker 4: was perfect.
Speaker 1: It was perfect. It was it was like and then
Speaker 1: I think we just I mean that was really the
Speaker 1: You're right, it was like getting shot out of a
Speaker 1: cannon all of a sudden.
Speaker 4: Well because we got nominated for like didn't we get
Speaker 4: nominated for like twelve Golden Clothes did, Like it was
Speaker 4: like everything and everyone got nominated.
Speaker 1: It was so insane, I think.
Speaker 4: So yes, writing, directing, guest star, like all of it,
Speaker 4: Like it was huge. It was crazy. I remember like
Speaker 4: people coming extra coming to the set the next day.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like when this was my first time
Speaker 4: on a television show, like I didn't know how it
Speaker 4: was supposed to happen. YouTube Mark obviously I too.
Speaker 3: I mean I think most of us actually except for
Speaker 3: you know Vanessa and and is that true that was
Speaker 3: your first time I had done like a guest star
Speaker 3: on NYPD Blue.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's not true.
Speaker 1: I did it. I did it.
Speaker 3: I did do a show with kristin Channel I did
Speaker 3: a multi cam sitcom but they aired they they we
Speaker 3: shot I don't know. I think we shot like ten
Speaker 3: and they aired four and it gotcads.
Speaker 1: But that was a multi cam.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was URI's first, I know.
Speaker 4: And it kind of like ruined all of us, I imagine,
Speaker 4: because it's like, not only is it the best group
Speaker 4: of people ever, not only are you having the best
Speaker 4: freaking time making it, but then like people love it
Speaker 4: as much as you love it, which is like, oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, that's amazing, and then you had nominated for
Speaker 4: all these everything it just felt like this feels like
Speaker 4: a crazy, weird dream. And then it just also like
Speaker 4: set the bar too high and sent us all to
Speaker 4: therapy after at.
Speaker 3: Least, although I will say if I went through it
Speaker 3: with any group of people, I'm glad it was us
Speaker 3: because there was still like there was still a groundedness
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 1: I think with all of us, there just there just was.
Speaker 1: It just was.
Speaker 2: I don't find that anyone got even after all of
Speaker 2: that success, were like affected by it.
Speaker 1: Do people still because you've you've.
Speaker 3: Done so I mean, my god, just with the Barbie
Speaker 3: and the Oscar of it all alone.
Speaker 1: But like, do people still mention Betty to you at all?
Speaker 7: Or oh my god, oh my god, yes, oh Betty's
Speaker 7: still like a huge, huge part of uh yeah, of
Speaker 7: what people think of me as and and I love
Speaker 7: it and and now that it's on streaming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know people who weren't even alive when we better.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's the whole new audience of it all
Speaker 3: is that that's have.
Speaker 4: Your as Paloma watched?
Speaker 3: Have your kids well, I mean, Ralph couldn't care less,
Speaker 3: but balow my, yeah, Baaloma has.
Speaker 1: Shees told she loves it.
Speaker 3: But we're doing the rewatch now, so she'll we're doing
Speaker 3: the you know, and I'm happy less ye.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I love that because now I have
Speaker 4: friends with like ten year old They're like, I'm watching
Speaker 4: a great buddy with my ten year old and it's
Speaker 4: exactly is It's like it's so sweet.
Speaker 3: All right. So here's there's the price we're gonna bring
Speaker 3: in for you.
Speaker 4: Is it a puppy?
Speaker 2: It's a puppy.
Speaker 3: No, And we're just going to bring into surprise and
Speaker 3: you can sort of, you know, take it from there.
Speaker 2: The gang's all back together.
Speaker 3: The sare famili in that house.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe we.
Speaker 1: Have all the Sarres in one spot again, Yes we do.
Speaker 4: I mean, we haven't been together in fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Please, yeah, I know, but.
Speaker 5: I can't forget south By Southwest.
Speaker 3: That was That was so fun when we all went there,
Speaker 3: so fun.
Speaker 5: So A, now that we mentioned the moment, I know,
Speaker 5: if you remember America right before we did our first scene.
Speaker 5: I can't remember exactly where we were, but you said,
Speaker 5: let's we we held hands and you said, let's remember
Speaker 5: this moment before we embark on this journey.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll never forget that. Do you guys remember that?
Speaker 1: I do, now that you mentioned it, absolutely remember.
Speaker 5: That there was something about you. You said, this moment
Speaker 5: is important, and then we had this for your journey.
Speaker 1: Yeautiful, you always were. You were that girl.
Speaker 3: So A, now that we have you, we've been asking
Speaker 3: everybody we asked. But so when we do the multi
Speaker 3: the limited series A reboot, are you are you in?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Everybody knows that. I always see that
Speaker 4: I would do it in a heartbeat. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: think we all would I don't think. I think every
Speaker 4: single one of us.
Speaker 2: Everyone has said everyone is like it's like an emphatic
Speaker 2: when yeah, right.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about just like while we have us
Speaker 3: all here together, a tone we were saying, how like
Speaker 3: the swat is of it all was really sort of
Speaker 3: the you know, the heart of the show where it's
Speaker 3: like you could go to Mode and there was you know,
Speaker 3: there was like all the fun and fashion all of that.
Speaker 3: But I think we were really sort of the America
Speaker 3: said it early is just sort of the grounding of
Speaker 3: the show, even though.
Speaker 5: We well we were the real normal people.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no queens.
Speaker 5: There more kind of a you know, kind of a
Speaker 5: human way. I mean, those people in Mode were in
Speaker 5: the stratosphere somewhere of their own little making, right. I
Speaker 5: love the contrast. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Some of my favorite moments were when the people from
Speaker 4: Mode would come to the Stat's house.
Speaker 5: Like those Christmas episode with Daniel decorating that tree. Broke
Speaker 5: my heart. He says, I never got to do this, Like.
Speaker 4: When Mark came out to his mom Patty Lapo.
Speaker 5: And I was talking about Daniel when he decorates the
Speaker 5: Christmas tree. Yes, we're all decorating it and and and
Speaker 5: he says, I've never done this before. He decorated song
Speaker 5: professionally at my house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when and when when when clear Mead comes over,
Speaker 4: Jui comes over, and when and then there was that
Speaker 4: amazing episode where Becky and Michael came.
Speaker 3: Over and Colah, there's an h in it.
Speaker 2: After.
Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like it completely the tone of the
Speaker 4: house as even though of course it was I mean,
Speaker 4: it was striking that balance of like making it the
Speaker 4: tone feel feel consistent and like we all lived in
Speaker 4: kind of the same world, but that at the Suarez
Speaker 4: House there was like a deep reality that like would
Speaker 4: set in and where, at least for me, where Betty
Speaker 4: could kind of always fall apart and be vulnerable and
Speaker 4: not be like the perfect good one who was above everything.
Speaker 4: Like Betty was a brat, you know, and she was
Speaker 4: a little bit selfish, and like it was so nice
Speaker 4: to have that. It felt like such a haven, like
Speaker 4: such a safe space.
Speaker 3: Even even the the Mode people would come there and
Speaker 3: that's like to your point, Tony, that's where they would
Speaker 3: sort of fall apart.
Speaker 1: That's where they could let their hair down, and you
Speaker 1: know that's yeah.
Speaker 5: I think more you know, down to earth. Yes, it's
Speaker 5: just part of the earthiness. I think, the groundedness, like
Speaker 5: you said, America, of that family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny that I never thought of it
Speaker 3: like that before.
Speaker 1: But you're right.
Speaker 3: That's where Daniel came to fall apart. That's where Mark
Speaker 3: had his moment with his mother. That's where sort of
Speaker 3: even Amanda's character, she would come and sort of be
Speaker 3: like when she housed that entire plate of fly on
Speaker 3: and then Tony you had to bring more and you know,
Speaker 3: but she would eat with us and like, you know,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: It just you're right. I never sort of actually had
Speaker 1: that viewpoint of it.
Speaker 3: But you're right, that's where everybody could sort of come
Speaker 3: and just be real and be human and grounded for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 1: I love that. I've never ye you know, put that
Speaker 1: to you know.
Speaker 5: I think America's right that those scenes in the house
Speaker 5: with mode people was really where the two worlds collide
Speaker 5: and interact. And I think where you see all those
Speaker 5: forces that I think made the the show so resonant
Speaker 5: and so relevant is where the the you know, the
Speaker 5: the upper class and the lower class or the working
Speaker 5: class kind of come together and and it contrasts the
Speaker 5: two worlds in a way that was really compelling thought
Speaker 5: and really kind of defined Betty because he was in
Speaker 5: both worlds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really was able to do that.
Speaker 3: I'm so so excited about us doing a reboot I
Speaker 3: cannot even tell you. And I'm so so thankful that
Speaker 3: a you took the time to come through today, and
Speaker 3: Tony you came in and gave us our little poppy moment.
Speaker 3: I again, I reserve the right to call you both
Speaker 3: back for whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is that we need from.
Speaker 5: I know America kids seen ugly Betty.
Speaker 4: No, well no, they've seen pictures of ugly Betty because
Speaker 4: I think someone at school told them your's ugly Betty.
Speaker 4: And then Lucia came home one day and said, Mom,
Speaker 4: are you ugly Betty? And I and I was like,
Speaker 4: I played a character named Betty on a show called
Speaker 4: Ugly Betty. And then she, like, you know, didn't say anything.
Speaker 4: And then a couple days later it was like, can
Speaker 4: I say a picture of you as as an ugly Betty?
Speaker 4: And I showed at her and then I'll text all
Speaker 4: three of you. But oh my god, I had a
Speaker 4: friend send me when I had Baz the first Halloween
Speaker 4: baby costume is a baby Guadalajara pond Joe and God,
Speaker 4: a wig, gasses and like a pacifier with braces on.
Speaker 4: I have a picture of both of the kids wearing
Speaker 4: it next to me and I'll text it to you.
Speaker 4: I picture ever, so they know they've heard tell of Betty,
Speaker 4: but they've not. But eventually, eventually.
Speaker 5: And so like my daughter won a context. She was
Speaker 5: ugly Betty on our first season. I remember that and
Speaker 5: she said, what do you what do you to be
Speaker 5: for Halloweens? I mean ugly Betty's faut.
Speaker 4: Old sweater. Well, I remember that first Halloween. Yes, the
Speaker 4: Wee Pride Parade like one of the number one costumes.
Speaker 2: That's when you know, I recall that. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3: So many people Betty and it was like, okay, we're
Speaker 3: we're onto something.
Speaker 2: If the gays. If the gays are loving it, she
Speaker 2: is prove and.
Speaker 4: They want to dress like her, then yes.
Speaker 3: America, tell us about what you're doing right now.
Speaker 1: You're promoted. What do you want on your press.
Speaker 4: Tour for I'm on a press tour for the Lost,
Speaker 4: But oh my gosh, it's like Ugly Betty, but not
Speaker 4: at all. It's It's an action thriller but based on
Speaker 4: a true story of the wildfire in California in twenty eighteen. Paradise,
Speaker 4: California is still the deadliest wildfire in southern California. And
Speaker 4: Paul green Grass and Brilliant director Captain Phillips born Identity
Speaker 4: Movies Buddy directed it and Matthew McConaughey and I star.
Speaker 4: He's a bus driver, I'm a teacher and we have
Speaker 4: to rescue twenty two kids from the middle of the fire.
Speaker 4: And it's a true story.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: So now you're an action hero on top of everything else, Like,
Speaker 3: what can't you do?
Speaker 2: Action star?
Speaker 4: Now, Dan, I can't get I can't get in between
Speaker 4: marking on that day.
Speaker 3: And we're in full circle and we're back to that
Speaker 3: back she's she's a girl.
Speaker 5: Please, nothing has changed. Nothing has changed, Tony.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my internet for some reasons.
Speaker 1: Oh we love you, guys.
Speaker 2: We love so much.
Speaker 3: Where Tony, are you doing anything you want to tell
Speaker 3: us about? I know last time we asked you, you
Speaker 3: didn't know your Instagram.
Speaker 5: I just did. I just did a couple of episodes
Speaker 5: of Only Murders in the Building with you know, my
Speaker 5: my buddies from Three Amigos. Sure it was fun. Oh
Speaker 5: my god, I did. I just did a movie with
Speaker 5: Jennifer Lopez. Office Romance with Bred Goldstein, the guy from
Speaker 5: ted Las. Okay, we want a couple of Emmy's on
Speaker 5: that show. Also, he's he's he Also he's a writer
Speaker 5: on Shrinking with Michael.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's right. He plays the football.
Speaker 5: Michael just got an an Emmy nomination.
Speaker 2: Yes, I saw him. I saw him there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, wait, thank you guys for coming on. We
Speaker 3: love you so much, we love you, We love the
Speaker 3: sweater is guest. Catch us on the reboot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be back. Yeah. Iconic, amazing, iconic because I
Speaker 2: feel like we talk so much about like we all
Speaker 2: have very similar stories that we share all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But she really dropped like some nuggets of information that
Speaker 2: I had no idea about, namely that of the hair,
Speaker 2: the bangs, the bangs, I could not any extensions. I
Speaker 2: can't because I can.
Speaker 1: Picture it totally, absolutely, I can picture it.
Speaker 3: I wish we had a photo I have no idea
Speaker 3: about that make her post it.
Speaker 2: God so incredible.
Speaker 1: She's our sister, she is our you know.
Speaker 3: It's so funny how we all it says, if we
Speaker 3: just saw each other yesterday, it's a wonderful, beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: How we quote unquote ice her out, how she's the
Speaker 2: third wheel. She has said that since day die got
Speaker 2: a grip.
Speaker 1: I have to say, we do kind of rub it
Speaker 1: in though.
Speaker 2: We yeah, well we definitely yeah, I mean we're not
Speaker 2: quiet about it. But it's funny now. But thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us, guys. That was so much fun. And we're
Speaker 2: going to be back next week with season two, Episode two,
Speaker 2: The Box and the Bunny.
Speaker 3: And we're going to have the Gina Gambarro, Ava Gaudette,
Speaker 3: so legend gorgeous.
Speaker 1: She hasn't changed a day.
Speaker 2: I'm furious and she just and she loves the show
Speaker 2: just as much as we do. So yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be so much fun, all right, guys.
Speaker 1: Viva Betty.
Speaker 3: Viva Betty is a production of Propagate Content into partnership
Speaker 3: with Iheart's Mike Ubuda Podcast Networks.
Speaker 2: We are your hosts On Ortiz and Markey Delcado.
Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Terry Weinberg, Lyn Lee, and Diego Fapia.
Speaker 2: Our senior producer is Emily Carr and the show is
Speaker 2: directed and edited by Mark A.
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