WEBVTT - America Ferrera 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:15.800 Okay, y'all, I'm ready for this. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.400 Oh my gosh. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.880 It's it's our fearless leader, it's our queen, it's our sister, 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:22.000 it's our. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.119 There's very few people that I would wake up this 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.200 early for to be. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:27.560 I can hear it in your voice. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.840 You sound I'm fighting from I'm fighting for my life 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.400 right now. But we have so many amazing guests this season, 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.479 but you know the one we got to start with 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:39.080 our girl. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.360 Our baby, our sweetheart, our love of our life, the iconic, 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:43.160 the amazing. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:51.760 What's now That's the appropriate level of excitement and screaming 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.720 that I was looking for when I told you when 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:55.640 I signed. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:01:01.200 On, were saving you. We were saving our excitement. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.960 When I tell you, guys, we had thirty seconds before 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.000 we gave her the intro, and she was upset because 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.200 we weren't squealing and happy enough to see her. 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.880 We were told that we were not excited enough to 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.039 see her and that we were icing her out. So 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:15.400 we're off to amazing. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.880 You two are always icing me out. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.040 She's always said that since since since. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.160 You're like, oh, we're mother and son and we have 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.720 a special little thing going on, and you're just the 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.920 third wheel and it just like to make funny. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.680 Okay, you're you're not the third wheel, but we do 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:35.840 like that, I will say. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.520 I will say we do every time we're hanging out. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.160 Not every time, but a lot of times when we're 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.080 hanging out having fun, we will just send her videos. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:45.960 Be like what's that? 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:47.120 Why did not hear? 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.280 And she's like, fuck you guys leaving me out all 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.200 the time. How's it going. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:53.960 Good? 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.680 I have a week of press here for the Lost Bus. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.000 It's rainy. It's great. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:00.160 It's rainy here. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.720 It is raining here. We're obviously here to talk about 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:03.480 ugly Betty. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.840 Hello, We're gonna get into it. Like do you even remember? 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.280 I mean, it was so long ago. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:15.880 I mean it was so long ago, and I feel like, wow, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.640 I can't believe I'm old enough to like forget entire 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.920 like episodes of my life. I'm like, how did I not? 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.520 How do I not remember doing that insane thing? Like 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.959 there's a lot I don't remember. I mean I remember 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.799 the broad Strokes obviously, But have you guys gone back 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.880 and rewatched So America? 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:37.679 Guess what? 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.280 Mark has never watched the show, so we're doing the 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.800 rewatch and he's watching it for the first time, so 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.359 it's super cool. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.520 Yeah you never watched the show, well. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.360 You know, it's so funny. I've seen the pilot and 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.600 I saw and I saw the series finale when they aired. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.720 But now watching it back, I feel like every episode 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.360 of the week, come in here and recap. I'm like, 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.959 this is a good show. Guys, like I really like it. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.760 Yeah, yeah, I think sixteen million people felt the same 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.080 way at the time. But yeah, it wasn't enough for 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:13.960 you to watch it. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.840 Mark, it was not enough. But now, in hindsight, it's 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.239 it's it's fun to watch it now because I'm like, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.600 I just don't remember, Like I just don't recall. Like, 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.400 looking at that kid, I'm like, who is that? 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:25.120 You know? 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:26.280 That's like a child. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.680 That must be so crazy. I mean, you were a 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.640 literal baby, a literally I mean look I look at it, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.000 and I'm like, I was a child. I don't feel 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.600 like the same person at all. Yeah, and I can't 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.960 imagine for you you were actually a child. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.800 Yeah, I mean, I guess that's that's a question that 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.320 I wanted to ask you to because both of us 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.880 kind of did it when we were so young. You 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:51.640 were like twenty one when we started. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.720 Right, I was, I was so young because. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.760 You know, but like because you were the closest person 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.640 weirdly enough in age to me. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:01.440 That's right. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.520 So I mean twenty one and eleven are very very 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.000 disparate ages. But like, yeah, I guess I did want 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:09.920 to ask you, but you already answered it, Like how 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.280 much you still feel like that that person? Or or not? 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:19.000 I mean it, I mean, come, I've changed. I mean 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.560 I feel like I've turned into three different people since then, 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.640 you know, since twenty one, luckily, but but you know, 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.159 it's the things like whenever I see you guys, or 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.839 like I ran into Uri last week and I saw 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.279 Chris gorm the week before, or you know, it's like 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.360 I feel right back in that place that we were in. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:45.320 I'm like, I still feel all the love and enjoy 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.680 and excitement, and I feel like we could go back 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.120 on set tomorrow and it would feel exactly the same, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.279 Like it feels like that close in terms of like 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.839 in person I was. I mean, I will say, like 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.240 it's hard to watch yourself when you're in something, and 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.039 I feel like I could not watch myself on the 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:09.279 show with any any objectivity whatsoever, Like I could not 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.080 tell if this was horrible, if it was great, if 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.599 I was a disaster, and I and I have I 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.279 think when it first came out on Netflix, I like 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.600 think I did like a little like beginning a pandemic. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.039 I was like, I'm going to do a Betty really 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.960 like I managed to get through like two episodes, and 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.320 then I was like, this is a lot for me, 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.520 So I'm maybe not going to do that, but but 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.120 I do like watch it and go, like you Mark, 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.479 I'm like that was so good. Yeah, So like I 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.960 can watch myself almost like she's a different person. I 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.039 can to love her and be like she's so cute 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.839 and she's so good, and like, I love Betty. So 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.560 it is fun to have that distance and feel like 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.000 you can watch it with like some notion of objectivit 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.760 and maybe experience what the audience might have experienced. At 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:04.240 the time. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.400 I feel like I was only able to do that 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.560 like now now, you know, like that was like the 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.800 perfect time. I feel like, yeah, as a teenager or 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.119 like you know, in college and stuff, it just still 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.920 felt weirdly close, whereas now it's just like I feel 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.920 like I've lived a bunch of different lives, but. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.280 So we've been we've been asking, you know, people or 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.520 like we've I mean, I told my sort of story 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.800 of how I first came upon I mean, I you know, 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.600 every actress who was Latin in La. I'm not sure 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.960 about New York, but we all auditioned for Betty and 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.080 then they would I guess they brought people back for 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:38.760 whatever it was. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.320 But like, did you did you have to did you 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:43.919 get the scrip? 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.480 Were you like, oh, I want to do this? Did 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.640 they just offer to you? Like what was your sort 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.760 of intro to Betty. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:56.200 It's such a funny intro. My first like intro of 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.680 even knowing that it was a thing that was happening. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.479 Was I ran into Selma hyaek. I didn't even know 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:10.800 Selma Hyak. I ran into Selma at the shattaham Arma whatever. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.520 I was on a day day or whatever, and I 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:20.960 was on a date. And I know this is before Ryan. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.680 It was like two thousand and four. Oh my gosh, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.320 I only met Ryan in two thousand and five, or 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.880 maybe it was like early two thousand and five. Anyway, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.960 so it was maybe like a year before the pilot 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.240 was even like actively getting made and I and I 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.800 was there on a date at the chateau, and all 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.240 of a sudden, like someone like comes running up to 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.480 me and it's Selma Hyak and she's like, you are 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.760 my ugly Betsy. Sorry for that accent. And she was 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.600 like and I was like, what is she even talking about? 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.320 Like we're doing this show and it's this going Tobium 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.800 series and you are my Betty. I know you're my 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.720 bet And I was like, I have no idea what 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.320 he is talking about, like none, And I remember calling 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.640 my agent or email my agent after and being like 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.600 I just had the weirdest interaction, what is she talking about? 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.920 And they're like, yes, there's this show, it's an adaptation. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.720 They're interested in you. Selma's obviously very excited. And then 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.640 and then I didn't hear about it for like ten months, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.080 like that was it. I was like, Okay, that's cool. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.200 But then no one ever said anything about it again, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.920 and I was like, well, maybe that's not happening. And 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.720 then it was like the end of that year. It 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.960 was like I was in New York doing the off 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.200 Broadway play. I had just moved to New York to 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.200 do an off Broadway play and I was taking classes 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:46.319 at NYU MARKI, where you went and then it came 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:52.440 back around and they were like, the pilot's happening. And 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.520 I think the first thing that happened, if I'm remember incorrectly, 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:01.520 is that Sylvia Hortza and tear Weinberg came to see 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.920 me in Dogs He's God, which was the play that 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.080 I was doing off Broadway, and they were like, the 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.960 producers want to come see you in the play and 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.840 then take you to dinner after and like talk, and 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.040 so they came to the play. We went to some 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.640 fancy sushi restaurant in Midtown, and I like was such 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.600 a nerd and I knocked everything over, Like I literally 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:28.000 knocked all the water over. I was like, I was like, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.040 oh my god, I'm sorry. I'm really not as clum as. Again, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.160 of course they're like you are. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:34.440 Well, they found her. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:42.440 And actually I'm trying to remember at what point I 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.480 watched the Columbian series. At some point before the script 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.240 they sent me the series and they were like, here's 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.320 what it's based on. Watch the series, and I remember 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.480 watching like the first two episodes and being like this 0:09:55.640 --> 0:10:00.600 is incredible, Like this is amazing, this is such a 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.760 perfect setup. Of course, people fall in love with her, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.520 of course people fall in love with this, like it 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.400 made so much sense. And honestly, I don't think I 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:13.120 even saw a script till after my audition, or like 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.040 after I got it, I don't know, like then I 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.040 then eventually they were like, they want you to audition 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.439 for the studio, but I was in New York to 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.240 an off Broadway play. That's why it's nice to be 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:29.319 out of town, I know. And they were like, okay, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:35.240 well we'll have we'll put you on tape. You'll go 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.360 to the studio and someone will put you on tape. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.600 So I showed up at the studio in Queen's actually 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.079 where we ended up shooting season three and four, and 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.760 and there was this. It was the set of like 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:53.120 Faith and Hope. Was that a show that multi can 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:59.360 And they sent like a fancy director and shot a 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.680 c on the set. I was like, oh, this is 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.200 not an audition. They like filmed the scene and it 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.200 was the opening scene with me and the poncho and 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:12.400 me being like, I like your pancho, and I remember 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:17.240 that there was a big uproar I think because I 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.559 think wires got crossed and hair and makeup just made 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.959 me look like me instead of like benterfying me at all, 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.760 and I think that there was like. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.960 So you look like glamorous and beautiful. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:35.920 I mean, thank you. So I gave with a thing 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.720 where they were like, how is you know, like she 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.640 does that look like ugly bag? Anyway, then that was 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.720 the audition they put me on tape, but it was 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.360 like a real scene that somebody directed on a set. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.840 And then and then that was that, and then I 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.280 was I remember I was in between shows on dog 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.360 Sy's God, I was like at the pizza place getting 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.360 a slice around the corner and my phone rang and 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.800 I believe that that was Terry and Sylvia calling me 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.040 and they were like, how would you like to be 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.160 our betty? 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.840 Oh my god? 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:14.319 Did I get it right? 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.240 Is she was shaking your eyes? 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:16.400 It right? 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:16.840 Yeah? 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.120 Yeah? 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.320 She had told us the story about the sushi restaurant. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.679 She was. She knocked everything. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:24.360 Was. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.720 I was a complete mess. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.160 What was What was your first day on set? Do 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.520 you remember what you shot on your first day? Yes? 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:36.960 I do remember, But I also Markie, I remember coming 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.640 to do the chemistry you read with you? 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.080 Oh yeah? 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:44.200 Before that? Had you come into chemistry read with like 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:48.000 two or three boys or something? And I remember you 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.280 were so oh my god, you were so cute. Okay, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.440 I kind of remember. Tell me if I'm misremembering this. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.120 Maybe you don't even I don't even know if I remember. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.720 Like right before your audition you were like miss Parara, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:02.200 I just want to say, I just want to say, 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.640 Miss fer a huge fan of yours. I'm really inspired 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:06.560 by you and your work. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.920 Do you remember, Yes, yes, I do, because well I 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.800 remember very distinctly. I don't remember saying miss Fererra, but 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:22.559 probably sure the child actor. The child actor jumped out, no, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.120 I I remember so distinctly, like we were sitting in 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.680 the waiting room and I think that there was like 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.079 it was like me and one other boy that was 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.520 sitting there, and uh, you got out of the elevator, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.320 and I was like, to my mom, it was the 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.679 first time that I had ever been like starstruck, because 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.760 I was like, I mean, I loved Sisterhood of the 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.440 Traveling Pants and so this was like on the heels 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.120 of that. And I just like looked at my mom 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.480 and I was like, Mom, that's Carmen, and she was 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.240 like she was like just like relax and then obviously 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.840 like I'm starting to like freak out, and but I 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.520 remember it being I remember everyone being so warm in 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.480 the room, like Sylvia and you and everyone as being 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.880 like you, it's it's fine, just like do it and whatever. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.680 And I think we did the scene. We did the 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:12.319 scene on the Yeah. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.760 Yeah, but I remember that so well. And of course 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.080 you walked out and everyone was like, oh my god, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.199 that's totally him. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:24.440 With my gap teeth and my braces and phile, hello, helloo, 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:25.360 still have it. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:30.440 My first day on set was like kind of thrown 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.000 at me because the night before, because I was we 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.120 were supposed to shoot some scenes and then Sylvia calls 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.800 me the night before and goes, so we don't have 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:48.920 a Wilhelmina because the actors in cast they fir and 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.440 and but they hadn't yet made the deal with Vanessa, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.080 I guess. And it was like, so we don't have 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.840 a Wilhelminas, so we're switching things around for tomorrow. We're 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.640 doing this other scene. We're turning the Wilhelmina parts into 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.240 into Amanda. And I never Oh, I probably met Becky 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.400 at the table. We'd be like, I didn't know anyone, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.640 None of us knew anyone really, and it was Oh 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.200 my god, they just threw me right into the lionstead. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.800 It was literally the first scene was the scene where 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.160 I had to walk out in that in the pilot, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:29.880 in that red latex latex pleather woody shorts cult with 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:36.320 all the models doing like that crazy photos and me 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.520 going to like, you look like you're gonna vomit, you know. 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.720 I'm just like, oh god, I feel so bad. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.800 For you and laughing. The hardest part of the pilot. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.680 It was the first thing we shot. And and then 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.480 it was like me running out and Daniel coming behind 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.760 me and me being like you think of a joke, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:16:00.880 and it was like it was very it was very trauma. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:04.520 Right into the fire, like that's the thing real. Yeah, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:05.360 Because then. 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.320 We ended up reshooting that scene or doing like a 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.960 not not a complete reshoot, but they wanted, like I 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.760 think they ended up just like adding a shot, but 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.440 we ended up reshooting that moment where I walk out 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:26.000 of the dressing room in that outfit and they're all 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.840 laughing at me. I was like, great, would love to 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:33.800 go back to this moment and not now America. Now 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.760 America would not care about twenty one years ago, as 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.680 you know, having some trouble and we had to reshoot it. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.080 But then at the end of the day they only 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:48.160 ended up like inserting one like shot of me making 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.160 a face so that I didn't look so sad. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:17:00.840 That was. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.880 You were too sad, well ambetizing. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:07.040 They're like, this is virgin On depressing its devastation, so sad. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:25.760 Yeah, so we do a whole thing of like fashion 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:30.879 flops and fashion thaves of each episode. But since since 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.960 this is the beginning of it all, do you have 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:39.600 I mean, it's really difficult because with Betty, you know, 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.119 we couldn't really do like a fashion flop because you 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.720 weren't a flap necessarily, but you were always so eccentric looking, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.760 like Betty's looks were always so sort. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.960 Of Betty, did you have any. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.119 Sort of involvement in like creating her vibe or her 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.840 whole because she was never like dumpy or frumpy or 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.639 anything like that. No, it was very real, very cool, 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.919 Like now that's what people are, Yeah, exactly. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.359 I mean that's the genius of pat Field, right, is 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.440 like it takes someone who really knows what they're doing 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.320 to do bad. Well, that's like to do something that 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.080 looks quote unquote bad, but actually it's so fun to 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.119 look at and for some reason works it shouldn't work, 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.120 And that's Pat Field's genius and the thing that all, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.399 you know, I remember before the pilot, there was so 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.240 much talk around like obviously, what was Betty going to 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:33.840 look like? You know, how are we going to pull 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:38.120 off this network ugly? Right? She's ugly, you know, quote 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.399 unquote the fish out of water and looks kind of 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:45.639 a mess to these fashion people, but also not unsightly 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:50.560 and unseemly, because God forbid we you know, perturbed the 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.480 network gods need to look at pretty people on television. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.960 But we it was like, is she gonna are they 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.680 gonna have drawn pimples? I remember that was a co 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.240 and it was like what are we gonna do? Like 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:07.080 bangs or no bangs? And glasses and how how ridiculous 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.199 is the clothing going to get? And I remember, you know, 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.560 we had tried on a million different things and finally 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.960 we got to something that Pat liked and she was 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.680 like yeah, yes, and she was like looking at me. 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:24.640 And then there were all these glasses on a table 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.919 and I tried on all these glasses and it was 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:31.679 like no, no, no, And then Pat takes the glasses 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:37.200 off her face, puts them on me, and there Betty's 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.000 iconic red glasses for pat Fields glasses. 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.920 Yeah, and there. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.080 Was this moment when the glasses went on and we 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.199 looked in the mirror and it. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:47.560 Was like. 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:53.000 Her Like I just got the chills thinking about that 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.240 moment because it was like it was such a guess. 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.320 It was such a like she's here, like she's arrived, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.919 this is our bed and so yeah, it was so 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:07.240 fun to really like explore and find it together. And 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.040 Pat was always so collaborative and also just like such 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:15.080 a genius. I feel like I learned so much about 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.800 about good tailoring, about good fitting, like how things should 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.359 fit my body, Like it was like being in a masterclass. 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:24.240 Every time I was in. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:25.360 A it was. 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.320 I always loved fittings. I thought the fittings were some 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.240 of the most fun times I ever had. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.800 For sure, I hated them because there as I was 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.800 always exhausted and they'd bring me and I know that 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.679 might but then once I got in the clothing, it 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:39.359 was so fun. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.240 I mean, I think that the in watching it too, 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:47.760 because from the pilot to then moving to La right, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.560 is that Pat didn't do we're talking about the first season, 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.160 so like Pat only did the pilot, but I feel 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.200 like some of the but some there were a few characters, 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.000 namely the upcourse of Betty, but I thought that Hilda 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:05.000 and Wilhelmina were pretty realized or not. Mark, We're pretty 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.840 like like it transitioned over like pretty well too. 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:13.040 Yeah, I think Hilda and Mark were definitely the most 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.359 realized for that time. I don't think I think, yeah, 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:17.359 Wilhelmina had. 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.280 Well, oh well, I mean what we what we're talking 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:27.240 another caveat to the segment of flop or fearce or 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.080 whatever we're calling it is. There's been a lot of 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:34.679 hair stories told on this on this shows of it 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:42.960 all for real it is it is no truly, I'm 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:44.560 talking mostly about. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:49.760 The hair moments about in the first moments of silence, 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.520 like just like, what the fuck is that? 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:54.960 What happened me? 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.840 Did it look like girl? 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.840 Girl? It looked like plastic hair? I at one point 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.639