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Speaker 8: It is Monday, October seventh, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
Speaker 8: episode number forty three. Welcome to the latest edition of
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Speaker 9: Excellent?
Speaker 5: We're doing, We're doing.
Speaker 9: We're good. It was one point away from predicting that
Speaker 9: thing exactly how it needed to be.
Speaker 3: Look at their sixteen You know what that thing was
Speaker 3: going to be close. I will tell you this.
Speaker 8: There were lots of things that happened last night that
Speaker 8: if you listened to the Break, you would have been
Speaker 8: well prepared for.
Speaker 10: Starting with very proud starting with the weather. We said
Speaker 10: this all week last week. We were like, this is
Speaker 10: going to be a problem, and sure enough it was.
Speaker 10: I guess not a problem because we have to end
Speaker 10: up staying through the night, but it certainly changed things
Speaker 10: about our night last night and about how much sleep
Speaker 10: we had for this morning.
Speaker 9: Right. Yeah, it was a problem for those who had
Speaker 9: to do a pregame show, right, you did an hour
Speaker 9: and a half.
Speaker 3: Expect the radio.
Speaker 9: I learned what rain delay radio was all about. My
Speaker 9: guys at the rail breaks, my guys at the Rangers
Speaker 9: reached out. They said, hey, a nice showing that rain
Speaker 9: delay radio. And I'm like, oh, okay, well thanks, that's
Speaker 9: what it's all about.
Speaker 3: So I can't have gay air.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's funny. I mean, hey, it's a good deal though,
Speaker 9: great win, you know with all that all that went
Speaker 9: down last night and with delays and the problems and
Speaker 9: stuff like that, you know, losing guys, I mean, it's
Speaker 9: that's that's that's as good as it gets right there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you to the fans. We had a lot
Speaker 5: of listeners that showed up to the game. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: that was I did not did.
Speaker 8: You No, I don't ever sign Okay, you get the
Speaker 8: calls like, hey, Emmer, save me.
Speaker 3: Sure no, but okay.
Speaker 8: So let's start with this. What do you say the
Speaker 8: big picture storyline? Obviously the weather was a part of
Speaker 8: the storyline, but what was the big picture takeaway? I
Speaker 8: guess from this game if we remember, you know, five
Speaker 8: six weeks from now, how are we going to remember
Speaker 8: this game?
Speaker 9: I think Dallas's ability to run the football in that
Speaker 9: game really paid dividends to you know, how they made
Speaker 9: Mike had some play calls that were the third and
Speaker 9: sixth flip I know you and I were talking about
Speaker 9: in the pre show, and you know, he there was
Speaker 9: some really he found some balance when he needed to
Speaker 9: find some balance, and you know that, and their their
Speaker 9: their scheme up front was really really good. Unfortunately, you
Speaker 9: know with Guyton he gets injured, do you run the
Speaker 9: ball better? Yeah? But they also lost her big too.
Speaker 9: That was a big loss for them. So I mean,
Speaker 9: this was a game of attrition in a lot of
Speaker 9: different ways. And and so you know, move, I guarantee
Speaker 9: you that that Tyler Smith did not take one rep
Speaker 9: at left tackle this week. They made the determination that hey,
Speaker 9: if we have an injury, this is the way they
Speaker 9: go and I give him credit for that. He was
Speaker 9: ready to play. TJ Bass was ready to play. You know, total,
Speaker 9: there were a lot of guys just go down through
Speaker 9: the roster. Tell me if you had in your in
Speaker 9: your uh in your bingo card this week, did you
Speaker 9: have a span four to two catches for twenty yards? Nope, nope.
Speaker 9: That's what you got to have when you go on
Speaker 9: the road and win games like this, you need guys
Speaker 9: to play at a level that you didn't think that
Speaker 9: they could play at. And I think that's the overriding
Speaker 9: thing to me was of how many guys stepped up
Speaker 9: when they absolutely had to have him in that football game.
Speaker 5: Well, I thought that we're gonna lose, picked them to lose.
Speaker 5: I mean they were close, yeah, but they were close
Speaker 5: to losing that game, very very.
Speaker 9: Close up to Giants.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but all in all, I mean and counting
Speaker 5: all the different things that they had working against them,
Speaker 5: mainly and focusing on the injuries, they were able to
Speaker 5: keep fighting and get that win. It came down very close.
Speaker 5: But my thing is you cannot keep playing this way
Speaker 5: and expect to win football games for the rest of
Speaker 5: the season. And the teams that you're about to come
Speaker 5: up against, and a lot of it. We see the
Speaker 5: why not, Brian, why not?
Speaker 9: Why not?
Speaker 5: You're gonna pay You're gonna play better teams than that.
Speaker 9: For sure, and I think you.
Speaker 5: Know they absolutely are. They absolutely are. But the Cowboys,
Speaker 5: a lot of the things that they were doing were
Speaker 5: self inflicted mistake and that's where I'm being critical of
Speaker 5: That's where I'm being very critical of them. It's like
Speaker 5: I'm cleaning up because we saw it towards the end
Speaker 5: of the game that would have cost them the game,
Speaker 5: everything that led up to that, and I just think
Speaker 5: they obviously need to just play it better, a cleaner game,
Speaker 5: limit the mistakes because we see how they get the
Speaker 5: ball rolling and then boom they have to take steps
Speaker 5: back and go back and then it's like okay, oh
Speaker 5: here we go here another mistake. All right, let's go
Speaker 5: back again. So it's those things that you know the
Speaker 5: talent is there, you know they can make it happen,
Speaker 5: but just be more disciplined, execute things better, and clean
Speaker 5: up the mistakes.
Speaker 9: We talk about that every week. That's an every week thing.
Speaker 9: Its team might be what it is, And Mike talks
Speaker 9: about the penalties every week. You know. Unfortunately, that's one
Speaker 9: of those that's one of those things that we talk about
Speaker 9: it every week, and I'm you bring it up every week.
Speaker 9: You know. Got to play cleaner, Gotta do this, gotta
Speaker 9: do you know, Yeah, they have to play cleaner. I
Speaker 9: think that to me, you know, the penolice. I'm not
Speaker 9: a fan of Sean Hockley, the official. I'm just not.
Speaker 9: And and I understand going in the game sometimes you're
Speaker 9: going to get I thought it was a BS call.
Speaker 9: The call on Wheat, I thought, you know, and Wheat
Speaker 9: I thought, you know, I thought that Hockley and the
Speaker 9: umpire standing behind just see the quarterback's head snap and
Speaker 9: they think that he got hit in the face. He didn't.
Speaker 9: He got hit in the chest in the area. And
Speaker 9: and it's a terrible call, and it gives them momentum
Speaker 9: and it takes the quarterback out. But what do they do.
Speaker 9: They drive the ball down the field, you know, and
Speaker 9: get and get that that uh that call. Now the
Speaker 9: undisciplined stuff, you know when when your guard, you know,
Speaker 9: your backup guards in the game and he gets an
Speaker 9: unsports my conduct penalty for being an idiot, you know
Speaker 9: of you know, initiating contact. Yeah, that's that's things you
Speaker 9: absolutely have to have to correct. But to me, I
Speaker 9: there's things I just don't think that they're ever going
Speaker 9: to get better at now. The turnover part of it, though,
Speaker 9: I I I have a theory about what I think
Speaker 9: happened on the Dak's interception to to to Lamb in
Speaker 9: the corner. I have a I have a feeling. Now
Speaker 9: if you say what I'm if you hear what I'm
Speaker 9: about to say, you're gonna say, oh, you're, you're you're
Speaker 9: making excuses for Dak, And I'm not gonna make excuses
Speaker 9: for Dak on that. I think Dak was trying to
Speaker 9: get a free play because he's he's if you watch
Speaker 9: the tape, he's clapping his hands. He wants the ball
Speaker 9: because they're late getting a guy on the field. He's
Speaker 9: trying to get it that that guy has has to
Speaker 9: cross through their side of the field to get to
Speaker 9: the line to line up, and Dak wants the ball.
Speaker 9: So he's going to try and get a free play
Speaker 9: out of this, and it's happened to him before. I
Speaker 9: believe it was. The Giants game did the same thing
Speaker 9: throughing inter set thought he had a free play. Next thing,
Speaker 9: you know, it's you know, it's not it's an interception.
Speaker 9: The routes were poor on the outside. Lamb's route wasn't great,
Speaker 9: the Brooks route inside wasn't great. You know, so your
Speaker 9: Dak is kind of he's taking a shot thinking he
Speaker 9: might get a free play, like we've seen a million
Speaker 9: times Aaron Rodgers to he got burned on it. Now
Speaker 9: there's things like that, Like I say, the fumble on
Speaker 9: the goal line. Hell of a play by that guy.
Speaker 9: Hell of a play by that guy. Now what happened
Speaker 9: is they had penetration on the play and it forced
Speaker 9: if they stay outside, if they get the block where
Speaker 9: they secure the down guy, where Laddermilk is secure, the
Speaker 9: ball's going to the edge, it's a walk in touchdown. Instead,
Speaker 9: Dawdle has to cut back, and now you have the
Speaker 9: collision in the hole.
Speaker 8: And Doubt also made a critical mistake that he's going
Speaker 8: to learn from in the NFL. This is not college.
Speaker 8: You can't hold the ball out looked at. These guys
Speaker 8: are way too skilled. They will punch it out. I
Speaker 8: think that was another thing where I remember the late
Speaker 8: great Gary Brown used to always say, don't stick the
Speaker 8: ball out there on the goal line, you're just asking
Speaker 8: for it to get punched out. He'll learn that lesson.
Speaker 9: I think, well, a doubt and I give Dak some
Speaker 9: credit because he could have reached, you know, he could
Speaker 9: have very well reached for the cone, you know, and
Speaker 9: then we'd had a situation like we had in the
Speaker 9: Raiders game several years ago. We're are makes the run
Speaker 9: and then and then Jeff Heath hits him and the
Speaker 9: ball goes out the back of the end zone. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that kind of like, yeah, like Dak just kind of goes, Okay,
Speaker 9: I'm gonna try, but no, I know what and now
Speaker 9: what's about to happen here? So yeah, there's things that
Speaker 9: could absolutely correct. But they beat a they beat a
Speaker 9: good football team. They're not good at quarterback. Here's a prediction.
Speaker 9: They play the Raiders next week. Get ready for Russell
Speaker 9: Wilson to be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers next week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you this question.
Speaker 8: So, and I hear what you're saying, Amber, and I agree,
Speaker 8: they have a lot of stuff to clean up. But
Speaker 8: if if we go back to the beginning of the
Speaker 8: season and we're back at training camp, and I throw
Speaker 8: out the question you guys. Okay, guys, we were at
Speaker 8: week five, was at five five in the NFL season.
Speaker 8: We're at week five the NFL season. Cowboys are going
Speaker 8: to be in Pittsburgh, and here are the players that
Speaker 8: will not be there. Yeah, Micah Tank, Kneeland, Williams, Cooks Gland,
Speaker 8: Carson Gydon.
Speaker 9: How are we feeling You're picking it out like she did?
Speaker 3: No, But but my point is, my point is she's
Speaker 3: not wrong. You know, she's absolutely right.
Speaker 8: But my point is I think there is something to
Speaker 8: the fact that in the NFL it's weird because you
Speaker 8: watch other teams like I do this all the time
Speaker 8: when I watch the good teams in the NFL, say
Speaker 8: the Kansas City Chiefs. You know, you watch a team
Speaker 8: like that, they can play an awful game, they end
Speaker 8: up winning, and the narrative is man that team they
Speaker 8: just know how to figure it out, even on their
Speaker 8: worst days, they know how.
Speaker 3: To figure it out.
Speaker 8: That's not necessarily the benefit that we gave the Cowboy
Speaker 8: that a lot of people are giving the Cowboys about yesterday.
Speaker 8: And by the way, they still got to clean up
Speaker 8: all this stuff. I'm not saying that that's not a problem.
Speaker 8: It's absolutely a problem because you're right, they're gonna play
Speaker 8: better teams and that, even though I think Pittsburgh's a
Speaker 8: good team, they're gonna play better teams and that starting
Speaker 8: this next week going against Detroit, I think Detroit's a
Speaker 8: better team. But the fact of the matter is yesterday,
Speaker 8: on a day when the quarterback was not playing his
Speaker 8: best football, on a day when they were absent a
Speaker 8: ton of players, top line players, they still manage to
Speaker 8: figure out on the road against a team that, by
Speaker 8: the way, loves to play nasty football like that, they
Speaker 8: figured out a way to be able to get a win.
Speaker 3: I think there's some that goes to that in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean you have to give credit when you
Speaker 5: list when you look at the list of the guys
Speaker 5: that you just said, absolutely, And my thing where I
Speaker 5: come in and become critical is we've seen them make
Speaker 5: these kinds of mistakes with their starters. We've seen them
Speaker 5: still do these things when they're healthy. And that's my problem.
Speaker 5: That's all where it comes from. Where you see problems
Speaker 5: or mistakes when it comes to discipline, things that can
Speaker 5: be in my mind, quote unquote easily adjusted or improved on.
Speaker 5: That's that's why it gets me really kind of upset
Speaker 5: in this topic because you're not seeing some kind of
Speaker 5: improvement in that area. Now you look at the list,
Speaker 5: you got to give them credit. Credit to the freaking
Speaker 5: defense and the play and the way that they played
Speaker 5: and the physical and tackling Marshall kneeling he comes out.
Speaker 5: And that's four the way, one, two, three, four, the.
Speaker 8: Actually ends six from the ones you had last year,
Speaker 8: Six of the defensive ends that were your top defensive
Speaker 8: ends are no longer playing for you as of last night.
Speaker 8: Think about that because two of them left in free agency.
Speaker 5: And then four them you can't count out.
Speaker 8: You can't count that when you start thinking about just overall. Now,
Speaker 8: I'm not saying Cowboys should have signed them, because I
Speaker 8: don't think they should have paid the money that they
Speaker 8: that they gotten free agency. My point is when you
Speaker 8: just think about the level of talent that you've now
Speaker 8: been depleted, that's the whole point I'm making it. Yeah,
Speaker 8: from there to where you are now you are, I mean,
Speaker 8: like you let those guys go, You lost your top
Speaker 8: three guys, and then your guy you drafted is out
Speaker 8: now and who knows for.
Speaker 3: How long that that's gonna be, that's gonna last.
Speaker 8: So it's it's a like defensive end that's a premium position,
Speaker 8: and you're down six guys from where you were last
Speaker 8: year this time, you.
Speaker 5: Know, And I thought they did a very good job
Speaker 5: adjusting and improving defensively overall. And you saw the aggressiveness
Speaker 5: and them not really and I've talked a lot about
Speaker 5: them being just a few steps behind. They were there.
Speaker 5: They were there with these guys competing the whole They
Speaker 5: didn't get worn out and it was a physical game.
Speaker 5: So credit to them absolutely. But again, the way I
Speaker 5: see it is and I'll take the win. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying anything absolutely like I'll enjoy this for sure, and
Speaker 5: I'm happy they did. But it's just like when you
Speaker 5: see the when it comes down to those few thirty
Speaker 5: seconds of the game, you're like, man, we should You're
Speaker 5: better than this. You're better than this. We should not
Speaker 5: have been put in this position.
Speaker 3: It's very true.
Speaker 8: I think there were a number of times last night
Speaker 8: in the game we were looking at each other like the
Speaker 8: it feels like they should be up by a lot
Speaker 8: more than they are.
Speaker 9: Oh sure that guy, they that game could have been
Speaker 9: that could have been a thirty to whatever game.
Speaker 3: You could have run away from them last night.
Speaker 8: But to be honest with you, and maybe that's exactly
Speaker 8: what you are at this point.
Speaker 3: You couldn't run away from.
Speaker 9: People are going to watch this game on you know,
Speaker 9: they're going to go back and whether it's the NFL
Speaker 9: stuff or however, you know, they watched the games and
Speaker 9: you're gonna see Dallas had a chance to even punish
Speaker 9: him even more in the running game, and and and
Speaker 9: and it was, you know, it was it's one of
Speaker 9: those you know, uh, ten guys, uh, you know, ten
Speaker 9: guys doing their job and then one guy not doing
Speaker 9: their job. That that is a lot of it. I mean,
Speaker 9: they they continue to put these wide receivers in positions
Speaker 9: to try and block, and it doesn't always work, and
Speaker 9: it and it cost them, and it gets to the
Speaker 9: point where I'm like, just keep the wide receivers wide
Speaker 9: and take keep guys out of the box. Don't bring
Speaker 9: guys down in the box that they have to block.
Speaker 9: And you know, so I don't know, I mean to me,
Speaker 9: it it there there. Dallas could have Dallas could have
Speaker 9: really put a herding on them last night with the
Speaker 9: way and the fact that the longest run that quarterback
Speaker 9: had was eight yards. Hell, you'll take that every single
Speaker 9: day after watching you know, the design runs that you
Speaker 9: know that that the Ravens had the other day, the
Speaker 9: design runs the Steelers have, you know for their quarterbacks.
Speaker 9: I mean, that's that was a that was a good
Speaker 9: job by by playing run defense against him.
Speaker 8: All Right, we're gonna take our first break. We're gonna
Speaker 8: come back when and dive into some of the details.
Speaker 8: We're gonna start first with Dak Prescott and his night.
Speaker 8: Obviously made the big play at the end of the game,
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Speaker 8: It is the second segment of the break life from
Speaker 8: the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star Wars discussing the
Speaker 8: Cowboys win last night twenty seventeen versus this is the
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Steelers. I was certain this game was going overtime
Speaker 8: as he as it was starting to wear down, because
Speaker 8: it was just like everything about it just said overtime.
Speaker 3: But luckily we didn't have to have any extra time.
Speaker 8: We had already been there for an extra hour and
Speaker 8: a half, so it was perfect that the Cowboys ended
Speaker 8: it the way they did. But let's talk about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 8: He had he was twenty nine to forty two, three
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty two yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions, a
Speaker 8: ninety point six rating. Had the game winner. What were
Speaker 8: your thoughts on his overall game, not just the end,
Speaker 8: but just throughout the game. How did you think he.
Speaker 9: Played any ideas?
Speaker 5: I mean, he did a good job at the end
Speaker 5: handle business. He handled business. But the thing that he
Speaker 5: made it I think just drew more attention is because
Speaker 5: leading up to the game, I was hearing from everybody,
Speaker 5: the fan base, everybody was putting all of this game
Speaker 5: on Dak and saying, this is going to be a
Speaker 5: game where it's all gonna come down to what Dak
Speaker 5: does and how he handles the game. And it did.
Speaker 5: Also the running game. We'll talk about that later on,
Speaker 5: but I think that overall in his performance, he had
Speaker 5: some really good passes, some really good throws, but at
Speaker 5: the same time, some of the decisions that he made,
Speaker 5: it didn't look like his usual self, like the experienced
Speaker 5: quarterback Dak Prescott that we used to see in especially
Speaker 5: towards the end when they some of the throw to
Speaker 5: the interception to CD and right when McCarthy called for
Speaker 5: time out at a weird time, you know, when they
Speaker 5: were getting the offense going. You know, when I'm talking.
Speaker 3: About that, I'm trying to remember what happened in the moment.
Speaker 9: He challenged the play he should have challenged.
Speaker 3: But that was that was the thing.
Speaker 5: But at times it just felt rushed the way that
Speaker 5: Dak was playing. At times where it was not he
Speaker 5: wasn't taking his time to think. And I guess you
Speaker 5: get the pressure, but there were plays where he could
Speaker 5: have had the time. He just needed to wait when
Speaker 5: he threw some mistakes, some passes that were incomplete, there
Speaker 5: were other guys on the field that exactly yeah, Hunter
Speaker 5: had he just waited like a few more seconds. So
Speaker 5: it was those things that I think he didn't take
Speaker 5: the time, not that he had it always because of
Speaker 5: the pressure that was coming, but I just hid he
Speaker 5: could have been a lot more poised and confident playing
Speaker 5: and taking a handle of the game. But at the
Speaker 5: end he did what he needed to do, but he just, uh,
Speaker 5: it was it was just inconsistent throughout the game.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know this, this team doesn't allow you. The
Speaker 9: Steelers doesn't allow you any comfort. You know, they really don't.
Speaker 9: The thing that the thing that kind of makes you
Speaker 9: comfortable is for him when he sees that single high safety.
Speaker 9: And they played a lot of cover to last night
Speaker 9: too to kind of prevent they were worried about, you know,
Speaker 9: some of the that when Dallas throws the four verticals
Speaker 9: and things like that. Dallas can play down the scene
Speaker 9: really really well. Man, his the past, the touchdown passed
Speaker 9: that he threw to Daddle in the corner, the route
Speaker 9: that Daddle round to, you know, to get the to
Speaker 9: get the defender to fall, you know, and then continue
Speaker 9: into the end zone. It was just it was just
Speaker 9: so pretty because it was Prescott. He wanted to throw
Speaker 9: to his left and he's kind of like, okay, I
Speaker 9: that's so muddy over there. Maybe old Dak throws it
Speaker 9: into a muddy bad look ye, and you're and it's
Speaker 9: he's forces it to Lamb and it's a contested ball,
Speaker 9: and who knows what happens. But then he's able to
Speaker 9: come back. And the reason he's able to come back
Speaker 9: is because Steele had kept what wide enough. You know,
Speaker 9: Wat's going to play that real wide technique, that wide
Speaker 9: nine technique outside there, and and and Steele was unable
Speaker 9: to just kind of able to pin him out there,
Speaker 9: and it allowed Dak to move and then to throw
Speaker 9: to Daddle and then Dawdle with the adjusting catches, and
Speaker 9: I kind of felt like that. You know, the turnover
Speaker 9: he had in the pocket, he really didn't. He didn't
Speaker 9: do you know, his line any favored there. It was
Speaker 9: instead of moving and he kind of stay stay. It's
Speaker 9: like he's looking and now he's looking back. And with
Speaker 9: this Steeler front, I mean, both tackles were beating on
Speaker 9: the playoff. I mean he really didn't have a chance,
Speaker 9: but you're still thinking, like, it's the Steelers, We're down here.
Speaker 9: I got to throw this thing away. I can't. You
Speaker 9: can't hold the ball. Even the pass that he threw
Speaker 9: that was short to Tolbart in the end zone, he
Speaker 9: was kind of looking looking and then and then he
Speaker 9: tried to rush it because he saw Tilbart break. So
Speaker 9: I felt like there was some parts of his game
Speaker 9: that were very calm, and the way that he played
Speaker 9: the flow of the game that you know, the touch
Speaker 9: and at and then you.
Speaker 5: Feel like he's not running us much because we've seen
Speaker 5: him be good. I like on the move, make.
Speaker 9: Those throws because he was in a boot this summer.
Speaker 3: You think that's it.
Speaker 9: I think. So, I don't think he wants to. I
Speaker 9: don't think he's really interest interested. I think if he
Speaker 9: if he, if he I thought they were actually maybe
Speaker 9: thinking about quarterback draw on that fourth down. Yeah, they're
Speaker 9: like to spread that thing out and then just powered
Speaker 9: back through and see. But man, can you imagine running
Speaker 9: that play and getting stopped and now? But you know,
Speaker 9: but to me, I I kind of feel like that
Speaker 9: he's gotten older and I don't think he's as interested
Speaker 9: in doing that anymore. I don't think he's interested in
Speaker 9: I think that there's been there's some there's some times
Speaker 9: where his his ankle doesn't feel great and he plays
Speaker 9: through it, and I don't think he wants to run.
Speaker 9: I don't think he wants to go through that and
Speaker 9: and take that chance again. Watch him against Detroit, just
Speaker 9: take off run. But the side of me that really
Speaker 9: does believe that he's not interested because he doesn't. He doesn't.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, really, Yeah, he just doesn't want to take a
Speaker 9: chance of not being available.
Speaker 8: But you know, that's also the thing too, is if
Speaker 8: there's an offset to that, if you're not gonna be
Speaker 8: that dack, if you're not gonna be the deck that's
Speaker 8: gonna run and make that a part of the game
Speaker 8: that the defense has to honor, then he's gonna have
Speaker 8: to be even better as a passer, which means because
Speaker 8: he's gonna take that part out so defenses don't have
Speaker 8: to honor that part. That's the part where I'm like, Okay, great,
Speaker 8: if that's gonna be the way you're gonna do it.
Speaker 8: But that means you got to step it up. And
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously last night in the moments that mattered
Speaker 8: the most I heard I think it was Nick.
Speaker 3: Said it this morning on on Sean and r J.
Speaker 8: He said, you know this, this may have been his
Speaker 8: his what was akin to Tony Roman Tony Romo's Buffalo games. Yeah,
Speaker 8: where you play not such great football throughout the game
Speaker 8: and then at the end you figure out a way
Speaker 8: to get your team a win. And and that's what
Speaker 8: it felt like yesterday. It didn't feel like it was
Speaker 8: his best day. I agree with you, Brian. I thought
Speaker 8: that that fumble was about the quarterback. I think he
Speaker 8: just held the ball so long. You gotta do something more,
Speaker 8: especially knowing those guys are already having some issues there
Speaker 8: on the edge.
Speaker 3: You just got to get rid of that ball.
Speaker 9: You can't hold it that there's there's there were moments
Speaker 9: of and that's kind of what you get with Dak.
Speaker 9: There's moments of that brilliance, and then there's moments where
Speaker 9: you're like, oh my god, what he just do? You know?
Speaker 9: And and you know, I think that you know, in
Speaker 9: the post, he was even talking about how upset he
Speaker 9: was about giving up points, you know, the turnovers. I mean,
Speaker 9: they they gave up you know, they probably gave up
Speaker 9: thirteen points down there in the red zone. I mean,
Speaker 9: they just have not been good down there. I mean
Speaker 9: they they were good. Heck, they almost lost the damn game.
Speaker 9: I mean it was crazy. I mean when that ball
Speaker 9: was on the ground and then him having the awareness
Speaker 9: to go dive on it. You know that, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 9: I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 5: Losing the game, almost like stomach.
Speaker 8: You guys on the field, No, that used to be
Speaker 8: the fun part there in MF.
Speaker 3: No, that's great.
Speaker 8: That used to be fun, but now it's now it's
Speaker 8: you stay in the press box, still time to go
Speaker 8: down the lot.
Speaker 9: Okay, Well that's you know that when that happened and
Speaker 9: you're sitting there thinking, and when he when he recovered it,
Speaker 9: I'm I'm like, Okay, they're gonna win this game now.
Speaker 9: I Mean, the football gods are with us today. We're
Speaker 9: not going to lose it. We're not going to lose
Speaker 9: this game today because of you know, but hey, it's
Speaker 9: such a struggle watching this team on offense. Yeah, it
Speaker 9: could have absolute brilliance to it. And just like the past,
Speaker 9: Like early in that game that the past, they threw
Speaker 9: the span forward. That was the motion, and you're like
Speaker 9: going and he confused, You confuse the linebacker and you're thinking,
Speaker 9: there you go. There you go motion, you know, gig
Speaker 9: up the field wheel route, here we go, that kind
Speaker 9: of thing. But and then the rest of the game
Speaker 9: you're just like hanging on your ear because of you know,
Speaker 9: what's going on with the plays?
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you mentioned that, I went back and looked
Speaker 8: at it, like there were there were all kinds of
Speaker 8: plays that happened before that final Yeah, that final touchdown.
Speaker 3: Bro, I mean you had just to play before it.
Speaker 8: You had the the pascity short hopped to Tobert that
Speaker 8: racked him there in the end zone, and then you
Speaker 8: got yeah, and then the one before that was the
Speaker 8: one where where you got the fumble that doctor covers,
Speaker 8: and then the one before that was the one where
Speaker 8: Dak runs down to get to the one and almost
Speaker 8: gave the game away if he had if he touches
Speaker 8: that pylon and the ball doll, they lose the ball
Speaker 8: game over right, And so you had all three of
Speaker 8: those players happened back to back to back after by
Speaker 8: the way, Hunter Lipke, who I'm I'm nick isn't here.
Speaker 8: I'm sure Nick, I saw him in the press box, like, yes,
Speaker 8: that's my guy.
Speaker 3: But after he has the great screen screens to get
Speaker 3: you down in position.
Speaker 8: And then those three plays that all could have gone
Speaker 8: opposite and killed this game for you.
Speaker 3: And then just like that, Dak May makes.
Speaker 8: The play that on fourth down, makes the play you
Speaker 8: need for the touchdown. So yeah, you want to you
Speaker 8: want to call it clutch, Call it clutch. He made
Speaker 8: the play he needed to make. But they certainly were
Speaker 8: playing with fire there, definitely.
Speaker 5: So you don't want a quarterback that just gives up
Speaker 5: and mentally gives him throughout the game. So that's a
Speaker 5: great quality that he has as a quarterback. He's just
Speaker 5: staying in the game despite throwing those two interceptions decide
Speaker 5: this pipe making those mistakes that you talk you just
Speaker 5: talked about, He's still going to keep fighting all the
Speaker 5: way till the end. And that's something that even Mike
Speaker 5: McCarthy right after the game he highlighted when speaking about
Speaker 5: Dak prescotting, and that's something we've known about him. He's
Speaker 5: the quarterback that he's just going to keep fighting.
Speaker 3: Well, I will say this, Brian.
Speaker 8: They finally listen to the break and they decided they
Speaker 8: were going to commit to a running back. His name
Speaker 8: is Rico Daluell. And what he did last night was
Speaker 8: twenty carries for eighty seven yards, a four point four average,
Speaker 8: two receptions for twenty seven yards, and a touchdown. Committing
Speaker 8: to a running back.
Speaker 5: Well, it took five weeks, it took fo we're here now.
Speaker 3: But but it seemed to have work.
Speaker 8: And I'm still convinced if they will just commit to
Speaker 8: him on a consistent basis, he is as long as
Speaker 8: he stays healthy, he is capable to be able to
Speaker 8: let this running game have some semblance of a good
Speaker 8: running game.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's great.
Speaker 8: Eighty seven yards ain't gonna be the one that's gonna
Speaker 8: lead the league in rushing, but it'll be good enough
Speaker 8: with the passing game that you have to be able
Speaker 8: to compliment what you do and force teams of respect.
Speaker 9: I thought there was gonna be twenty seven yards rushing
Speaker 9: from Dawdle yesterday going into this game, the way that
Speaker 9: the Steelers play, But you know, they figured they figured
Speaker 9: out ways to take advantage of these edges some too,
Speaker 9: you know, with them playing wide, and you know these
Speaker 9: guys are built, you know, her big and Watt, They're
Speaker 9: built to rush the passer. They're not built to stand
Speaker 9: in there and play the run. And so if you
Speaker 9: mash on them a little bit and get bodies on
Speaker 9: them and make them have to fight those blocks. But
Speaker 9: the Cowboys offensive line did a really nice job. There
Speaker 9: was a couple of times the thing with the thing
Speaker 9: with BB and again everybody'll see this. BB gets so
Speaker 9: locked into getting that push on the down guy that
Speaker 9: he's late getting up on like Queen the linebacker. So
Speaker 9: it's gonna be a six yard gain. But if he
Speaker 9: gets up on Queen, that thing's probably gonna go. See.
Speaker 9: I'm starting to figure out these metrics, and it's like
Speaker 9: expected yards per carry thing. I kind of get it
Speaker 9: now that there were times where I don't think there
Speaker 9: was any expected yards. I'm like, that plays blocked terribly.
Speaker 9: There's no way you're now It's like, I'm interested to
Speaker 9: see what that number is because it's like, how many
Speaker 9: yards did Dallas actually leave on the field. That could
Speaker 9: have been the way the plays, if they we could
Speaker 9: have been coming out of this game, and I think
Speaker 9: we still are in a way. We could have come
Speaker 9: out of this game thinking, damn, Dallas ran the ball
Speaker 9: against a really good run defense and had success to
Speaker 9: it it and and then actually on the other end,
Speaker 9: did a good job of stopping the run. So you
Speaker 9: caught a break though. No question with you know, with Patterson,
Speaker 9: those guys not playing, that's fine, Hey, no we feel
Speaker 9: sorry for you. Nope, just keep playing. That's all you do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: Something that Regal he talked about right after the game.
Speaker 5: He mentioned, you know it, the more you run and
Speaker 5: the more they give you the chances and take the
Speaker 5: chances on you, and you keep building on that, the
Speaker 5: more confident you become. And we saw that throughout the game.
Speaker 5: He just kept running better and better and finding the
Speaker 5: hole and just getting more comfortable and confident. And I
Speaker 5: think that's something that's going to start carrying over next
Speaker 5: week and the following weeks. I think that the Cowboys
Speaker 5: after this game, they can I mean there's no way
Speaker 5: you don't see the results of what happened and you
Speaker 5: don't go with like, Okay, Rico is our guy, and
Speaker 5: let's start giving the ball, handing the ball a lot
Speaker 5: more and in a more consistent basis. So I think
Speaker 5: this is exactly what this offense is running game needed
Speaker 5: going forward, because it was it was getting ugly. And
Speaker 5: now you have an answer or a light of hope
Speaker 5: there with him.
Speaker 9: Can I ask you a question, do you guys think
Speaker 9: you'll ever see Cooks or Dalvin Cooks?
Speaker 8: At this point, I think what I always well, not
Speaker 8: what I always expected, what I was starting to believe
Speaker 8: is going to come true, which is I was starting
Speaker 8: to believe they think.
Speaker 3: Of him as an insurance policy too.
Speaker 8: And now after last night, I'm kind of convinced they
Speaker 8: see him as an insurance They.
Speaker 9: Sit, they sit Vaughn, but they had to get linebackers
Speaker 9: up because of the special teams problems that they were running.
Speaker 8: But the mix was really good last night in my opinion,
Speaker 8: Like you commit to to having doubt will be your
Speaker 8: lead guy, you use Zeke because he got some really
Speaker 8: good runs, I mean quite as kept there in the
Speaker 8: second half. He had some runs that were really nice
Speaker 8: there when they were trying to kind of get back
Speaker 8: in that game.
Speaker 3: And and then then you use lip Key some like
Speaker 3: move him around, do some different things.
Speaker 8: You can use him in the passing game, use him
Speaker 8: on third down, he can pick up the blitz, all
Speaker 8: those things. I think last night's mix is how I
Speaker 8: would like them to do it.
Speaker 9: Going first, Okay, let me ask you this question then, sir, Right,
Speaker 9: the fact that he wasn't in on the the goal
Speaker 9: line play that they fumbled. Who wasn't in that sequence?
Speaker 9: Wasn't yet that Dawdle was the running back?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Did that tell you anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Maybe it told me that that he might not be
Speaker 9: playing anymore.
Speaker 8: I don't know if it told me that, because I
Speaker 8: still think there are people in this confess that he's
Speaker 8: still got his role.
Speaker 9: Is was going to be that? Right? Then we all
Speaker 9: kind of earmark him for that role.
Speaker 8: Yes, I think so. But I also think that at
Speaker 8: this point, I think what we may be left with
Speaker 8: is he is a complimentary back, so he will spell Dowell,
Speaker 8: They will use him in certain situations. He doesn't necessarily
Speaker 8: have a specific role that always going to be is
Speaker 8: because I thought they might use him on third downs
Speaker 8: more to be able to pick up the blitz. Liptkey
Speaker 8: is clearly that guy this point. Yeah, so I don't
Speaker 8: know that he has that defined role. I do think
Speaker 8: he could be their spell back and kind of, you know,
Speaker 8: spell Rico when they need to spell him.
Speaker 9: Are you interested at all at seeing Cook?
Speaker 8: I still want to see him. I don't know if
Speaker 8: they're going to give it to us, but I still
Speaker 8: want to see him. I'm kind of I think he
Speaker 8: can be better than than Dowdell.
Speaker 9: What was I think he could be better than Zeke
Speaker 9: Fair And if you're gonna give me complimentary back guy,
Speaker 9: give me the complimentary back guy that I think would
Speaker 9: pair with Daddle that could be better.
Speaker 3: What does he do better than Zeke that?
Speaker 9: What do you think you did? You don't know that.
Speaker 9: I need to find it out.
Speaker 3: You want to see what he does?
Speaker 9: I want to see.
Speaker 5: I just the thing is I want to take my chances.
Speaker 9: I would like to see just because I kind of
Speaker 9: feel like that that Maybe that line got a little
Speaker 9: rhythm last night, Maybe they kind of figured some things out.
Speaker 9: If they could get these wide receivers to block, you know,
Speaker 9: gott to watch San Francisco tape. All those receivers do
Speaker 9: is block, you know, but and they do it well,
Speaker 9: and they do it really well. By the way, florinoay,
Speaker 9: he could have cut call for holding twice in one
Speaker 9: of the critical plays, Like I'm like, it's number eighty
Speaker 9: and it's just like grabbing pulling a guy. Don't call it.
Speaker 9: Don't call that. I'm like, going, Bro, you're in there
Speaker 9: three plays and you could get called for holding twice,
Speaker 9: you know, So you'll see, all.
Speaker 3: Right, let's take a break goal quick. We got our
Speaker 3: final break. We'll come back, and then we got to
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the defense.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: All right, here we go. Let's talk about this.
Speaker 9: Can you give him a real quick metric of the day, Yeah,
Speaker 9: give it to me. When Dak think about this. When
Speaker 9: Dak had over two point five seconds to throw, he
Speaker 9: was thirteen of twenty three. It's strange, Yeah, it is,
Speaker 9: you feel like with the but that happens to Jalen
Speaker 9: hurts too. The longer he holds the ball, the worst
Speaker 9: he gets. You know, well, I mean he he had
Speaker 9: two touchdowns, two interceptions. He was thirteen to twenty three
Speaker 9: for two hundred one yards. On passes where they were
Speaker 9: over two point five seconds of protection. Under two point
Speaker 9: five seconds of protection, he was sixteen of nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 9: for one hundred and fifty one yards.
Speaker 3: But actually that does make some sense to me.
Speaker 8: Here's why, because the longer he holds it, the likelihood
Speaker 8: is he was getting pressured, which means that the ball's
Speaker 8: probably not going to be the best ball. It may
Speaker 8: not be the best location. He maybe trying to get
Speaker 8: rid of it. Like, there's more stuff that happens the
Speaker 8: longer you take with the ball.
Speaker 9: They got worked by the one that Brooks catched early
Speaker 9: in the game. He was over the line. I mean
Speaker 9: Brooks caught the ball. It should have been her first down.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Cockley's crew, I don't know what the hell
Speaker 9: they were doing that day, but but you're right. The
Speaker 9: the thirteen for twenty three of the over two point five,
Speaker 9: his yards per temp was eight point seven an attempt.
Speaker 3: What was it for under two point five?
Speaker 9: Seven point nine? Okay, so it was it was pretty
Speaker 9: you know, it was pretty close. But but he he
Speaker 9: was much better. He was much better when as far
Speaker 9: as the under two point but man, they got rid
Speaker 9: of the ball pretty quick on some of the stuff,
Speaker 9: the screens.
Speaker 3: And things like that, which you need some of those
Speaker 3: kind of players.
Speaker 8: And you talk about it all the time, Brian, like,
Speaker 8: this is not a team that's traditionally been good at
Speaker 8: the screen. No, but last night they had a couple
Speaker 8: screens that that parade downtown down really good. That was
Speaker 8: that was that was unexpected. But they had a couple
Speaker 8: screens that throw.
Speaker 9: Him the screen. He'll do. You get exactly what I mean.
Speaker 9: It was a great block by BB to get him
Speaker 9: up in the alley and the way you win.
Speaker 8: I actually love him and I love getting Ferguson in
Speaker 8: those kind of situations. With what we know about Ferguson
Speaker 8: is he breaks tackles. He knows how to.
Speaker 9: Down play that he made because he catches the ball
Speaker 9: late in the game. He catches the ball short of
Speaker 9: the sticks about six.
Speaker 8: Yards and you had no doubt he was going, You're going, oh,
Speaker 8: here we go.
Speaker 9: He's just running through guys, you know, and he's going
Speaker 9: to get the first down.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I love how he runs after the catch. But talk
Speaker 8: to me about the defense. If you had to kind
Speaker 8: of say which one was, let's say more surprising, which
Speaker 8: was more surprising between their run defense and their run
Speaker 8: offense last night.
Speaker 5: I mean, when you look at what the Steelers do
Speaker 5: or don't do on the running game, you got to
Speaker 5: take that into account. We talked about it on the show,
Speaker 5: how they lead the league on like attempts, but they're
Speaker 5: not as successful with running the ball. So that's something
Speaker 5: to keep in mind. So my credit, my bigger credit
Speaker 5: would be given to the Cowboys offense because this is
Speaker 5: an area where we definitely have just overall not seen
Speaker 5: it in when you look at the defense, I mean
Speaker 5: that's and I mean the Steelers defense. I think they
Speaker 5: hold a higher power than the Steelers' offense here. So
Speaker 5: for sure, you got to give credit to what the
Speaker 5: Cowboys O line was able to do along with Rico
Speaker 5: Dowell and the game that they were able to put
Speaker 5: as far as their running game.
Speaker 9: Kendrick's eight tackles on run stops have twenty six run
Speaker 9: snaps eight run tackles yep over shown with four you
Speaker 9: go down the list. Chauncey Golston twenty three snaps, four
Speaker 9: run tackles. He had a good game, but he had
Speaker 9: a really good game. By the way. How about Mozzie
Speaker 9: Smith thirteen snaps, four run tackles. So see you had to.
Speaker 3: I mean, we had two weeks in a row. Nowt
Speaker 3: of Mazzi has kind of shown up.
Speaker 9: He got knocked back a couple of times. But you know,
Speaker 9: Mazzie steps, Babysipsy steps. But you know, you go through
Speaker 9: yards per yards per play on these tackles. They're all
Speaker 9: within manageable numbers. They're all three point threes, three point two's.
Speaker 9: You know, when you play the Ravens and you're playing
Speaker 9: the Saints, those numbers were six point four, six point eight,
Speaker 9: seven point one. You know, it's the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 9: They've done a much better job with their fits and
Speaker 9: they're finished in They were running in a they were
Speaker 9: running in a clip. They were one of the one
Speaker 9: of the bottom teams in the league when it came
Speaker 9: to tackle percentage. And you could tell just watching the
Speaker 9: tape or watching the game. Hell, you didn't even need
Speaker 9: the tape. You can watch TV copy and go, you're
Speaker 9: not tackling very well. Today. I felt like that they
Speaker 9: you know that that this whole thing was about going
Speaker 9: to get their linebackers. That's what I was surprised. I
Speaker 9: was surprised. I was surprised with the run defense. Well, actually,
Speaker 9: I take that back. I was surprised with their ability
Speaker 9: to run the football run defense. I felt like that
Speaker 9: with the way the Steelers inability to get linebacker we
Speaker 9: talked about it when we broke them down, their inability
Speaker 9: to get linemen up on linebackers. Look a look at
Speaker 9: the tackles from all the linebackers in this game. That's
Speaker 9: something that that we kind of talked about going in.
Speaker 9: And you know, their back is he's he's at the end.
Speaker 9: That's you know, but you didn't let the quarterback kill you.
Speaker 9: That's the thing. I was worried about the designed quarterback runs,
Speaker 9: especially the first step of the game. He goes running
Speaker 9: around eight yards. I'm like, okay, here we go. I'm
Speaker 9: going to see this. But that was the longest run
Speaker 9: of the day.
Speaker 8: And I would have been more concerned if they had
Speaker 8: Warren and Patterson playing. Like you said last week, I
Speaker 8: thought those two guys added a dynamic dimension to their
Speaker 8: run game that they just didn't have last night. I
Speaker 8: think those backs are really what fuel that running game,
Speaker 8: in my opinion, for as much as it's going to
Speaker 8: be fueled. I thought that's where they could have had
Speaker 8: some issues that the Cowboys would have had a hard
Speaker 8: time dealing with. I think when you when you didn't
Speaker 8: have those two guys in there, it just made it
Speaker 8: a lot easier for Dallas to to be able to
Speaker 8: get the guys in the right place. But I'm not
Speaker 8: going to take anything away from Dallas either. That's two
Speaker 8: weeks in a row. You can say what you want.
Speaker 8: They've they they have not been stopping to run well
Speaker 8: this season those two games, last game, in this game,
Speaker 8: they've done a really really good job. And actually, if
Speaker 8: you look at the first half of yesterday day, it
Speaker 8: was looking like they were getting run on pretty good.
Speaker 8: They they Pittsburgh had seventy yards at the half right
Speaker 8: it rushing and and but they had shut down their
Speaker 8: passing offense to basically nothing, so they couldn't sustain drives.
Speaker 3: It kind of felt like they were seven on third
Speaker 3: downs like they were.
Speaker 8: They were shutting them down, so they really couldn't get
Speaker 8: anything going, but they were running.
Speaker 3: The ball well.
Speaker 9: I kind of felt like if they could have got
Speaker 9: the game at to thirteen to three, you know that
Speaker 9: there's no way, Yeah, they no way. Steelers are coming back.
Speaker 9: Not throwing the ball the way they were throwing the ball.
Speaker 9: So but yeah, it was a it was a it
Speaker 9: was a nice day as far as that, especially with
Speaker 9: all the guys to back up guys.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, with all the backups, I
Speaker 5: mean give extra credit to you.
Speaker 9: Know, if Tank, if Tank and Michael were playing in
Speaker 9: that game, that would have been far worse for the Steelers. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they those they were they couldn't block. They wouldn't have
Speaker 9: been able to block those guys because they had trouble blocking.
Speaker 9: They had trouble blocking Golston, they had trouble blocking Wheat,
Speaker 9: they had trouble blocking Osa. You know, they had problems.
Speaker 8: Had a good game too. He was using the batfield
Speaker 8: a lot. All right, we're gonna that's a wrap. We're
Speaker 8: gonna be back tomorrow. We're gonna do a little bit
Speaker 8: of bigger picture. We got a lot of things left
Speaker 8: from this game. We'll kind of talk about. We'll talk
Speaker 8: about some of the injuries that the Cowboys sustain. We
Speaker 8: got some questions that Brian will have. We'll go inside
Speaker 8: the mind of Brian brought us. We'll do all that tomorrow,
Speaker 8: So join us until then, For Brian brought us in Amagarcia,
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