1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: And I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 3: So you know, during trading yesterday we had the yield 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: on the tenure JGB get up to ninety five and 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 3: a half basis points, and of course the yen had 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 3: strengthened lot during the day and this kind of fell 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: apart after the BOJ announcement. Let's take a closer look here. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: The BOJ maintained its negative policy rate. After the meeting, 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: the BOJ said it would take a more flexible approach 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: to controlling yields on tenure government debt, saying the one 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: percent level was now a reference point. Well, we got 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: some reaction from Yesper Cole, who's expert director at Monach's 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: Group Japan. 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 4: They've kept the anchor at zero at the front end, 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: but the long term infrast rates are now gradually allowed 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: to be going up. They've had a hardcap. Today's decision 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 4: means to have a soft cap. So it's like a 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: teacher that is no longer controlling, but that is supervising 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: it's students, which are the bunt markets here themselves. 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: So let's look at some of the other news after 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: the bell we heard today advanced to micro devices and 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: the company gave a lackluster or forecast for revenue. This 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: would be for the current quarter, so we're talking total 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: top line now between five point eight to six point 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: four billion. The company did site lower demand for gaming 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: and AMD is also expecting continued weakness and demand for 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: chips in the so called embedded market. This would be 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: things like automotive or networking systems. Here is Angelo Zino, 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: senior equity analyst at CFR Research. 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: I in terms of the outlook, it's definitely a little 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 5: bit light relative to where expectations are. And then you know, 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: I think the another key area and unknown is on 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 5: that embedded side. I think that's just largely this Islands 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: acquisition that they bought in the first half of last year, 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 5: and when you kind of look at that business, there's 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 5: definitely some pressure that looks like is arising here. 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: That's Angelo Zeno from CFRA Research. By the way, AMD 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: shares have been chopping around here in the late US 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: session right now essentially flat. This stock is up fifty 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: two percent so far this year. Brian Well Tesla share 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: is going the other direction. 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: Doug wiping out nearly a fifth of their value, or 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: some one hundred and thirty billion dollars in market gap 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: as demand for electric vehicles wanes. Tesla's shares are down 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: roughly seventeen percent since the company reported its third quarter 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: earnings less than two weeks ago, and as Bloomberg's Ed 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: Ludlow notes, demand for cars might not be the only 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: factor impacting the stock. 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 6: Is this interest rates showing up in the real world. 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 6: Is this interest rates kind of showing that those early 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 6: adopters for evs have been and gone, and that the 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 6: everyday person who's confronted with a choice to buy an 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 6: electric vehicle is saying not right now. And you know 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 6: broadly that in line with demand is the question the 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 6: market is posing right now. 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: That's Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow. Separately, Tesla did get a bit 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: of good news today when a jury in California ruled 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: that the company's autopilot technology was not responsible for a 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: crash that killed a driver four years ago. 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: We Work is reportedly planning to file for bankruptcy, maybe 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: as early as next week. The Wall Street Journal says 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: we Work may file its Chapter eleven petition in New Jersey. Now, 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: we Work has been holding conversations with creditors about improving 64 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: its balance sheet and taking steps to rationalize its real 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: estate footprint. On Monday, the company entered into a fourbearance 66 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: agreement with creditors. This will end in seven days now. 67 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: A spokesperson for we Work said, quote, we don't combent 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 2: on speculation. 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: FTX co founder Sam Bankman Freed has concluded testifying in 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 3: his fraud trial. Bloomberg's Tony Aarin said the judge grew 71 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: increasingly frustrated with Bankman Freed as cross examination wore on. 72 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 7: Generally he was admonished for not answering the question directly 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 7: or trying to reframe the question, and Judge Kaplan got 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 7: very tired of that. This morning yesterday, he started out 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 7: fairly well on that, but by the late afternoon he 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 7: had been admonished over a half dozen times. And that 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 7: just continued today. 78 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: That's Bloombergs Tony Erin's closing arguments are set for Wednesday. 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: The jury could get the case by Thursday afternoon. 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: We go to China next, where the People's Bank of 81 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 2: China is expected later today to inject more liquidity into 82 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: money markets. This would follow a big surge in interest 83 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: rates on Tuesday. 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: In China. 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: We have more on the story from Bloomberg's Juan Wong. 86 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 8: In Hong Kong, a source close to the PBOC says 87 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 8: the Central Bank will likely inject added liquidity into money markets. 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 8: The move comes as state media blamed unidentified financial institutions 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 8: for disturbing the markets. The sources rates will likely retreat 90 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 8: toward levels used in the pboc's regular open market operations. 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 8: A report by CCTV had blamed some institutions for depending 92 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 8: too much on rollover financing and creating liquidity risks. Funding 93 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 8: costs in China's money markets have shot up in recent 94 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 8: weeks due to large amounts of government bond issuance and 95 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 8: tax payments. The source said, overall liquidity in the banking 96 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 8: system is relatively abundant. In Hong Kong, joined Wong Bloomberg Radio. 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Now it's time for global news. 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: Israel is saying that it's ground defensive into Gaza is 99 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: going very well. At Baxter has that story and more 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: from the nine to sixty newsroom in San Francisco. 101 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 9: Ed. 102 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, Brian. 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 11: It says it's systematically dismantling hamas IDF Lieutenant Colonel John 104 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 11: Karnika says that Hamas is no match for Israeli troops. 105 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 12: This operation was, of course the result of meticulous intelligence collection, 106 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 12: planning and execution on the ground, done together with the 107 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 12: IDF and the ISA, our equivalent of FBI. 108 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 11: Meanwhile, Hamas says it will release a number of captives 109 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 11: within days. This As reports dozens of people killed and 110 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 11: wounded at a Gaza refugee camp, victims of a series 111 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 11: of Israeli air strikes. Israel Command says it's a large 112 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 11: Hamas infrastructure, it's targeted and killed a senior leader. Meanwhile, 113 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 11: Egypt says it's ready to allow more humanitarian aid trucks 114 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 11: through the Rafa border and usaid to Israel and Ukraine. 115 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 11: Front and center in Congress today is Senator Secretary of 116 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 11: State Anthony Blink and a Defense Secretary of Lloyd Austin. 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 11: In front. Blincoln saying aid for both needs to go forward. Now. 118 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 13: If we start to peel off pieces of this package, 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 13: they'll see that, they'll understand that we are playing wackam 120 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 13: oil while they cooperate increasingly and pose an ever greater 121 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 13: threat to our security as well as for that of 122 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 13: ours and partners. 123 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 11: And Austin says, it helps us production. 124 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 10: When we send our friends munitions from our stock files. 125 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 10: The money to replenish our supplies strengthens our military readiness, 126 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 10: and we invest in American industry and American workers. That 127 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 10: also holds true for funding for Israel or Ukraine to 128 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 10: procure a new equipment off the production line. 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 11: Now, New House Speaker Michael Johnson says, the Israel Israeli 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 11: money will be taken from IRS and forcement. 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 7: We about sixty seven billion dollars in that fund, and 132 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 7: we'll try to take the fourteen point five necessary for 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 7: this immediate and urgent need. 134 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: We'll deal with the rest of that issue. 135 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 11: Later, which Bloomberg Government reporter Jack Fitzpatrick says, that's not 136 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 11: going to work. 137 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: For Democrats in the Senate. It's a non starter. 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, Ben Carden, a variety of Democrats have said 139 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: absolutely that is not happening. 140 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 11: So all funding has been slowed. Meanwhile, the Senate has 141 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 11: confirmed Jack Lou to be the nation's ambassador to Israel. 142 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 11: Lou expected to play a major role in the Biden 143 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 11: policy in the region. President Biden and Chinese President Chi 144 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 11: Himping will have a face to face meeting next month. 145 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 11: White House pokesman Kareeine Jean Pierre says it will be 146 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 11: a difficult situation and conversation. 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: That's what the President is going is going to be 148 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: doing and having a tough conversation, but important conversation. 149 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, Pierre says, wouldn't go into tails on expectations. It'll 150 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 11: be on the sidelines of APEX here in San Francisco, 151 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 11: and the US military says that it's going to buy 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 11: fish from Japan's Fukushima area for military food. 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I'm Ed Baxter, and this is Bloomberg. 160 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 161 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm Brand Curtis along with Rashad Salamat, and our guest 162 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: is Larry Liebert, Bloomberg editor on the International Economics and 163 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: Security Team, with a closer look at the Israel Hamas war. Larry, 164 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: thanks very much for taking out the time to be 165 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: with us. So the Rougher border crossing is set to 166 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: open today on the Wednesday, to let wounded Palestinians leave, 167 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: and Egypt says it will take in more. It will 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: allow more aid trucks in and take more wounded prisoners out. 169 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: This would seem to be a fairly major development. 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 9: It would be if it all occurs as plan. There's 171 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 9: been a lot of frustration on all sides really about 172 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 9: the volume of aid, about the ability to use the 173 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 9: crossing because you have so many players. You not only 174 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 9: have Egypt, which is cautious about taking in anyone on 175 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 9: their side, and you have Israel which fields and have 176 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 9: to inspect every truck. But there clearly is a need 177 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 9: for the humanitarian aid. All sides agree in principle it'll 178 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 9: be significant if that starts to deliver. 179 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 14: So, I mean, while we do that, you know, we've 180 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 14: also got the United States as well as Israel, just 181 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 14: seeing the possibility of perhaps using. 182 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: Peacekeepers on the Gaiza strip. 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 14: Once Israel fulfills well, perhaps the thinks it's fulfilled its 184 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 14: goals of iradegating Hamas from the territory. 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 9: Yes, our reporters Peter Martin and Jennifer Jacobs broke a 186 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 9: story that the administration is starting to talk privately and 187 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 9: cost about what would happen if Hamas is indeed destroyed, 188 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 9: as Israel vows who would then run the Gaza Strip, 189 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 9: and people in the administration were very quietly talking about options, 190 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 9: including a multinational force. It would even involve American troops 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 9: or some sort of UN supervision. The problem being that 192 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 9: there is no obvious successor to Hamas, which has governed 193 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 9: the Gaza Strip for years now. 194 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: Yet at the same time, the US is sending three 195 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: hundred more troops to the Middle East. What's the nature 196 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 3: of that deployment. 197 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 9: Well, I think they've made clear they are not going 198 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 9: to Israel. They sent nine hundred earlier, now three hundred 199 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 9: more to bolster the American presence in the region generally, 200 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 9: and I think that pained mostly at the increase in 201 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 9: drone and other attacks by Iran Act militias in the 202 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 9: region on the US wants a greater show of force 203 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 9: and to be able to respond there, so they're emphasizing 204 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 9: that presence, but saying that those those American troops aren't 205 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 9: going into Israel. 206 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 14: Tell me something here, Larry, is it now? Perhaps given 207 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 14: in the mood music and the noise coming out of 208 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 14: the territory, oh I said the region that the chances 209 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 14: of the wider conflict because you just did mention Iran 210 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 14: perhaps the. 211 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 9: Receding perhaps, and yet you know it could it could 212 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 9: all blow up. Yet there is some sense that Cutters, 213 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 9: playing a mediator's role as it often tries to do 214 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 9: that are on while making threats, may not be eager 215 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 9: to expand this war. They did, it would be by 216 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 9: backing attacks by Hesbala the north, but also perhaps the 217 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 9: attacking US interests in the Gulf. So that's still there. 218 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 9: But at the moment it appears that this is not 219 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 9: widening beyond the very fierce fighting going on in Gaza. 220 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 9: Israel said that it killed a senior leader of Hamas 221 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 9: and targeted Hamas infrastructure. I think Israel is saying that, 222 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 9: you know, he wants to eliminate or to rid the 223 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 9: Gaza strip of Hamas. What does that mean is that 224 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 9: would it be like cutting off the head of the 225 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 9: snake or do they want the entire snake? Well, they 226 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 9: want the entire snake. In that they feel that there 227 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 9: is such a broad presence of Hamas that they need 228 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 9: to make it destroyed as an effective fighting force and 229 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 9: a threat in the future. Now one of the problems 230 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 9: again they says it killed the senior leader today. But 231 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 9: on the other hand, in Gaza, their reports a dozens 232 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 9: were killed and wounded in an attack and a refugee camp. 233 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 9: And this is the challenge in that very clearly that 234 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 9: Hamas permeates Gaza and Hamas fighters very significantly, very purposefully 235 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 9: exist among the civilians, and so that gives Israel a 236 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 9: very tough challenge in terms of human rights and the 237 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 9: rights of civilians in warfare. It is interesting that the 238 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 9: US is increasing the mood music now saying we back Israel. 239 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 9: They need to do what they're going to do, but 240 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 9: they really have to protect human rights. I was just 241 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 9: noting what it used to be called a tweet from 242 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 9: Matthew Miller of the State Department suppos who does Now 243 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 9: it's simply said protecting civilians from harm and getting them 244 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 9: humanitarian assistance is vital to Israel's security period. So that 245 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 9: emphasis is being increased even as the US says Israel 246 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 9: needs to do what it has to do in terms 247 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 9: of destroying them off, and that tension is growing. 248 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: Just briefly, un envoy for Sirius said that this was 249 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: already spilling over into Syria in thirty seconds or so. 250 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: What's happening there? 251 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 9: Oh, well, I think we're seeing some again because the 252 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 9: rainy and support. We're seeing some activity there, We're seeing 253 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 9: activity elsewhere in the region, and the tensions are there. 254 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 9: As you mentioned, there doesn't at least for today, and 255 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 9: there seems to be a little easing off. Some of 256 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 9: that is determined by what Iran decides to do. 257 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Larry, thanks so much. Ji Ye it's 258 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: a big question. Yeah, very big question. Larry Lieber joining 259 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: us a Bloomberg editor. This is Bloomberg. 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