1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. All right, second hour of Clay and 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Buck kicks off. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Now. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: I wish we had the theme music for Mission Impossible 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: for a second here, because it would go well with 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: this scoop from Axios. Biden's teams don't let him trip mission. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Don't let him trip mission, Clay watch. Well, let's just let's. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: Not underrate how crazy this is. I mean, this is 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: this is the lead story for Axios this morning. Buck, 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: I woke up, went into my email, I read the Axios. 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I got a bunch of email newsletters with the news 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: and I saw this and I thought it was like 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: April Fool's Day that this would be out as a 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: legitimate story. 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: So it's a real thing. His team is trying to 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: prevent him from falling down. You all remember remember that 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: video of Hillary Clinton. They said that she had a 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: fever or something and the secret services around her and 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: she just flopped into the back of a van and 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it was on video and at first they were like, 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: she didn't flop, it was a balletic uh, you know, 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: dismount into the rear of the vehicle. And then like Okay, yeah, 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: she flopped and then they said, oh, she had a 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: fever or something, and that became a moment in the 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: news cycle. I do not believe Joe Biden is going 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: to have a I don't I you know, man, I 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: don't like talking about this sometimes. I don't think he's 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: gonna have a dementia moment on stage. If there are debates, 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't I think that they'll be able to no 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: more so than he already has, right, I mean, nothing 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: beyond what we've already seen. Anything could happen. But what 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: they are worried about is if Joe Biden has some 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: big stumble at the wrong moment, it just reminds everybody 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: of what's what's going on meanwhile. So so the mission 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: mission impossible, as I call it, is to prevent Biden 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: from stumbling as he walks around. And then you have 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: Biden set to join the picket line at the United 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: Auto Workers strike and they're saying this is the first 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: time a sitting president has ever gone to and in 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: effect joined I guess a picket line. This is all 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: about the unions, all about Michigan, particularly for twenty twenty four. 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: We can see that, and I think Joe Biden has 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: always done very well with unions and the Democrats still 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: maintained a pretty strong grip on them. Clay, I just 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: wanted to go through some interesting moments in Bidenomics right 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: now for everybody. Yeah, and then you know, you can 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: tell me where you think this is all heading or 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: how bad this is going to get. This is These 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: are just all stats and statistics that I pulled this 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: morning when I was looking up what's going on here? 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: The monthly average payment for a mortgage has gone from 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars, I'm sorry, has gone from yeah, basically 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars to two thousand dollars, an increase of 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: a thousand bucks and your mortgage payment so you can 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: afford quite truly about half the house you used to 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: be able to afford if you are getting a mortgage 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: at this point in time. Yes, sir, No, I think 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: it's also important. 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: So the mortgage rates have the cost of a mortgage 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: has gone up that much. Also important to reemphasize there 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: are tens of millions of people who would like to 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: move but have a two and a half or three 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: percent mortgage rate. Yeah, they're not going, So they're not 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: moving either, so they don't have a house that fits 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: necessarily their needs. But you feel so fortunate to have 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: that rate locked in that you're not going to trade 68 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: up or trade down like you might be doing based 69 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: on the cycles of your life. 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: So car rate loans or car loan rates rather, have 71 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: also shot up dramatically, so it's a lot more expensive. 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: The number of monthly car payments at one thousand dollars 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: a month right now are at an all time high. 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are making thousand dollars a 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: month car payments, and you know they're not driving around 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: that may Bocher or a Mercedes necessarily, right, So that 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: would be a lot more than a thousand. But demand 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: for these are all things. Demand for commercial real estate 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: loans is way down toward two thousand and eight levels. 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: You have seventeen trillion dollars of household debt right now. 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I had to check that stat twice. I said that 82 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: seems crazy. Seventeen trillion dollars of household debt. Thirty six 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: percent of Americans have more credit card debt now than 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: they have in total savings thirty six percent. And the 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: average credit card loan right or credit card rate APR 86 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: is something in the seventeen to twenty percent range. So 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: you start to look at this and you start to 88 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: say to yourself, hold on a second, Oh, and I'm 89 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: not the I didn't even pull I should have pulled. 90 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: And groceries, which are the most common day to day 91 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: household expenses, which are far above what they were before 92 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Biden took office. Everybody, except for people who are so 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: rich they don't really care, is poorer under Biden. That's 94 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: actually what this is. Forget about the unemployment rate, forget 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: about whatever the stock market's doing. Seven stocks. It's like, 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, App, Apple, Amazon, Nvidia, Microsoft, Tesla, What am 97 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: I missing? 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: Well? 99 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: Google, maybe alf Alphabet. Did I already say that one 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: those stocks, Clay, If you took them out of the 101 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: stock market, the stock market would be down this year. Yeah, 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: it'd be a down year in the stock market and 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: only seven stocks, all tech stocks that are holding the 104 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: whole thing up. The shoe is about to drop, folks. 105 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. The music is 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: going to stop. Everyone's saying, oh, maybe we won't hit 107 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: a soft landing. We have some major economic dysfunction going 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: on right now. 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: And this is summed up buck NBC News poll, Republicans 110 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: have a twenty one point advantage on which party better 111 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 2: handles the economy, forty nine percent to twenty eight percent. 112 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: And this is according to Josh Krashauer, who I'm reading 113 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: from here. That's the largest lead Republicans have held in 114 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: this poll dating. 115 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: Back to nineteen ninety one. 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: Interesting, what also happened in nineteen ninety one third party 117 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: Ross perrout everybody was upset about the way the economy felt, 118 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: Ross Perot swept in. For those of you who remember 119 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety two election, and one, what did Piero 120 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: win Buck nineteen percent of the overall vote in nineteen 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: ninety two. 122 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy high number compared to what people thought was possible. 123 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: And so. 124 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: Is Again, history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. That's interesting, 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: just in the context of biggest lead Republicans have held 126 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety one. Now, also nineteen ninety two, Clinton won, 127 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: But this was the Bush Senior had some of the 128 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: highest approval ratings in nineteen ninety one in the history 129 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: of a president Clinton. 130 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Clinton won with less than less than half the vote correct. 131 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: So let's all remember Clinton was not even a majority 132 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: president right, I mean Clinton either is tom accident he 133 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: never won a majority in ninety two or ninety six 134 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: because Perot ran again in ninety six he was less 135 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: powerful then. See, this is why you know, when everyone's 136 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: sitting here and you know, and I'll get to some 137 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: of the I've seen some of the vip emails. You 138 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: get nervous, Buck, do you think Biden's gonna make it? 139 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: Oh? 140 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: I think Biden's still gonna make it. I'm I am 141 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: quadrupling down. I am so deep in my Biden's gonna 142 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: be the nominee bunker that I can't even get any 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: natural sunlight anymore. But Clay, there are so many variables 144 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: here that I think you have to assume at some 145 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: at some level, the you know, inertia will win out 146 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: on some of these political realities, like you'd have to 147 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: get so much going to push Biden aside that to me, 148 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: inertia meaning just let it go as it is, is 149 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: the likelier scenario because there's also all these other variables 150 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: and factors that you count account for. And if you 151 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: start to create chaos in the system, if you start 152 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: to make distinctions and determinations about where there's where things 153 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: are going in the future based upon incomplete information now 154 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, and give up advantages in the process to 155 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: do that. I just think that that's that's bad. That's 156 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: bad strategy. We know we have the possibility of a 157 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: third party candidate. We also have the possibility. I don't 158 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: know what happens if Trump loses one of these trials. 159 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't know what happens to the 160 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: sentiment in the country. I don't know what And I 161 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: don't even mean that. I'm like, what are the polls show. 162 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know how we get along. Well, 163 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I've got a crazy theory on that. Buck. I don't 164 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: think it's gonna matter that much. That's possible. I don't 165 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: think I agree. 166 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been thinking a lot about that. I mean, 167 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: because there is I think so far correct. Me see 168 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: if you agree with this theory. I think that Democrats 169 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: never expected that they would be in this situation in 170 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 2: late September. No, I think they thought that Trump would 171 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: be maybe he's still leading in the Republican primary, but 172 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: I think they thought that he would be taking on 173 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: water uh, you know, with New York City, with d C, 174 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: with South Florida, and with Atlanta, I think they thought 175 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: that he would be weaker instead of getting stronger. 176 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: So I think that we've been very consistent here, stretching 177 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: back for a long time. Certainly really, I think for 178 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: this whole year, or since the indictment started to come down, 179 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: that we were saying the Democrats believe that Trump is 180 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: their best opponent, and they think that the indictments will 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: help him in the primary or else they won't do it. Comma, 182 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're right in the general. Yeah, we've 183 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: been saying this all along, and what you're seeing right now, 184 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: based on the polling, is that reality I think is 185 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: starting to set in where yeah, it means Trump is 186 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: going to be the nominee. Yet it hasn't hurt him 187 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: in the primary at all. In fact, the indictments have 188 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: only helped him, but it may have helped them beyond 189 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: what they thought was possible. It may have pushed him 190 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: to a place where he becomes a candidate. Clay You added, 191 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know people that are talking about the 192 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: possibility of like bank runs. When you start to look 193 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: at what's going on, you know, Silicon Valley Bank, they 194 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: all want to tell you, oh, it's all fixed, it's fine. 195 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got on the wrong They got on 196 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: the wrong side of interest rates. And and you know, 197 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: basically treasuries, and you look at the way rates are 198 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,239 Speaker 1: going right now, you look at the both the persistently 199 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: high inflation and what's going on with the interest rate 200 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: hikes faster than has it. I think it's the fastest 201 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: it's been in history, right, the fastest interest rate certainly 202 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: modern history that anybody knows of it. And and there 203 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: are maybe some very large financial institutions, I mean the 204 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: largest financial institutions that are effectively sitting on a lot 205 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: of very bad decisions that they hope, you know, meeting. 206 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: They don't have that they wouldn't have the capitol on 207 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: hand if people realized that they wanted to take their 208 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: money out. Now, that's always a problem with banks, but 209 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: when you when you get on the wrong side of 210 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: interest rates like you did with that's a Silicon Valley 211 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: bank SBB that seems to become more of a possibility. 212 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: So think about this. I mean, this is my long 213 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: way of saying, if the economy starts to tank and 214 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Biden is where he is, then they're clearly going to 215 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: break the glass. Then then you I think, you know, 216 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: broker convention or whatever they got to do they're gonna do, 217 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: they'll come up with something. Yeah, And I think the 218 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: story to kind of sum that up. And by the way, 219 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: on your point on Silicon Valley Bank, I think I 220 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: talked about this. I was in. 221 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: Italy on my family vacation when those banks and I 222 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: got on the phone from Italy because I was worried 223 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: about my local bank that I do all of my 224 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: my business with. I mean, it's stock price was tanking 225 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: because there was a legitimate run on banks, and I'm 226 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: sitting around thinking how much you know, what accounts do 227 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: I have? Like, I think a lot of people were 228 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: in that perspective. But I think the big story here 229 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: so far of the Republican primary. We thought starting in 230 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: January the question was going to be who gives Republicans 231 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: the best chance to beat Biden. I think the story 232 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: as we sit here in late September is Biden's so 233 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: weak every Republican is going to beat Biden. Again, I'm 234 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: not saying that's going to happen. I think the electability 235 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: is less of a focus because Biden is so weak. 236 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: To your point, if the economy truly hits a recession 237 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: in the next year. There isn't this fear that Biden 238 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: looks inevitable in the Republican e A lite it. I 239 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: think that was a big part of the DeSantis push, 240 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: of the Nikki Hayley push, Like, oh, Trump has alienated 241 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: a lot of people. I think Biden's so bad that 242 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people are just saying he's not gonna 243 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: wins here. 244 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, one is, most of the polls show Biden 245 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and Trump basically tied. So that ten point poll is 246 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: an out there right so and a five point Messenger poll. 247 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, but in general, you're looking at its 248 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty country, fifty to fifty, and we're a 249 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: year ahead of the elections. That keeps saying, and you 250 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: haven't run. They're just gonna run Jay six stuff all day, 251 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: all the time. And people can say, oh, that's all 252 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: old or whatever. It's a visual, it's a you know, 253 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: TV markets are what moves the needle with elections in 254 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: different states. I mean, it's that they're going to just 255 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: flood the airwaves with threat to democracy and J six stuff. 256 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: What will that actually mean? We'll have to see. But 257 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: I think Clay that we are in a situation where 258 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: you could see something major happy to the economy because 259 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: they've done everything they can do. This is we're at 260 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: the point now where the Bazuoka has already been fired, right, 261 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: They've they've done that, brought up rates faster than they 262 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: ever have, They spent more money than they ever should have, 263 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: and it was a complete you know, free for all. Right, 264 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: basically what eight trillion in COVID spending all in when 265 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: you add the two brillion to buy. 266 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: It more than we spent, which I think is important 267 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: adjusted for inflation to beat the Nazis and win World 268 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: War two. 269 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: So it's as though I want to ever take a 270 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: step back. You know, I'm not an economist. Probably a 271 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: few economists are listening to this, but I you know, 272 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm just somebody who reads a lot of stuff. But 273 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: we all understand this at a gut level and just 274 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: based on based on common sense. It's like we ran 275 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: an experiment to run up inflation as fast as we 276 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: possibly could, and then we've run up an experiment to 277 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: bring down inflation by bringing up rates as fast as 278 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: we possibly can. And we're told that the same people 279 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: more or less who did both of those things, and 280 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: some of whom were pretty much around and asleep at 281 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: the wheel back in the tooth and eight meltdown. Have 282 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: gotten this perfectly right, and it's all going to be fine, 283 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: and there's no real You can spend eight trillion dollars 284 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: and then you can raise rates as fast as you want, 285 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: avoider recession, avoid mass layoffs, avoid all these things. If 286 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: they pull this off, you would think it must be 287 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: some kind of active economic engineering genius. Does every want 288 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: to bet that they're gonna be able to pull this off? 289 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just putting it out there. I'm just 290 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: putting it out there. It's gonna be wild. Just let's 291 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: just sum it all up by you. 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Go to MyPillow dot com Today 309 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: eight hundred and seven ninety two thirty two sixty nine Truth. 310 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: Seeking, Reality Telling The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 311 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Welcome Back. 312 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: In Play Travis buck Sexton show rolling through the Tuesday 313 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: edition of the program with all of you. 314 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Buck, I put up a poll, and this is something. 315 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: And again, I'm not claiming certainly that my audience on 316 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: Twitter is reflective of anything other than a small subset 317 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: of the United States. 318 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: But you and I were discussing this. If Robert F. 319 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior runs, the expectation is, right now, conventional wisdom 320 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: that he would hurt Biden the most. 321 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: What if that's not right? Yeah, I don't I don't see. 322 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who's conventional wisdom that is, I don't 323 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: buy that. I don't buy that for one second you 324 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: think he would hurt Trump more than absolutely Biden. I 325 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: think that. I think that more people who are right 326 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: leaning in their thinking, like RFK Junior than anybody who's 327 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: a real Democrat who's voted for Biden. Uh and you 328 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: a vote for Biden and going to continue to be 329 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: a Democrat going forward. I don't look. I think this 330 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: was at some level a desire on the right for 331 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: something just sort of you know, new and interesting, which 332 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: often happens in these different campaigns. But I think if 333 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: you have an RFK Junior ticket, you can say hello 334 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: to four more years at Joe Biden. If he's if 335 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: he's third party, it's going to cost people on the right, 336 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: because you know what, Clay, at the end of the day, Democrats, 337 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: they just want to win people on the right. 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Also a friend of mine, friend of Clay, 364 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: so that means she's good. People. Everybody tell us about 365 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: this story because I think you're got to lay it out. 366 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: This This crosses over into the realm of major Iranian 367 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: foreign policy. The Obama administration holdovers to the Biden administration 368 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: nuclear policy? What went on here? Like, tell everybody about this, 369 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: this situation, because it's gonna be the first time they've 370 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: heard it. 371 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's pretty breaking news this morning. I will say, 372 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: you know, I live in Nashville, where Clay lives, and 373 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 4: I was getting ready to drive to Memphis. Got up 374 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 4: at I'm speaking at the Lincoln Day dinner tonight for 375 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: anybody who's listening for Memphis up to see you there. 376 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: But I was wiping the sleep out of my eyes, 377 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: and I thought, am I actually read what I think 378 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: I'm reading here? And it's I think it should be 379 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 4: the foreign policy scandal of a generation. If everything that 380 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: Semaphor is reporting is true. So to take a really 381 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: complicated picture and try to distill it down quickly so 382 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: all the listeners can understand essentially what happened in Semaphore, 383 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: by the way, is a pretty mainstream media organization started 384 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 4: by some New York Times journalists. Semaphore reported that they 385 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: got a hold of a lot of emails internal correspondents 386 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: from the Iranian regime, but also correspondence that the Iranians 387 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 4: were having with Americans, and essentially what the correspondent said 388 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: is the Iranian regime and around twenty fourteen, they were 389 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: heavily under US sanctions at that point from both the 390 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 4: Bush administration and the Obama administration, and they wanted to 391 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 4: improve their image in the United States, and they wanted 392 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: to get favorable terms for a nuclear deal that have 393 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: been begun being negotiated in secret. Right, So these are 394 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: things like how many centrifuge is should Iron be allowed 395 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: to have. So it wasn't just trying to like blanket 396 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: improve the reputation in the United States. It was trying 397 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: to trying to get favorable terms for that nuclear deal negotiation. 398 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 4: Now that deal was the JCPOA that President Obama signed. 399 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: Remember this was a political deal. It was not ratified 400 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: by the Senate, and that's why. And the Trump administration 401 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: in which I served, we were able to tear up 402 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 4: that nuclear deal because we didn't think it was a 403 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 4: good deal. And I could go into another hour on 404 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: your show explaining why that wasn't a good deal. You 405 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: know this stuff really well, Buck. So what was really 406 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: mind blowing about these internal communications about this foreign influence 407 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 4: plan that they had in the United States is they 408 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: had a list of officials of people of influential, mostly 409 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 4: Iranian Americans, that they wanted to recruit to be a 410 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: part of this. Well, the big problem is it appears 411 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 4: on that list again, if the Semaphore reporting is true, 412 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: that it was Obama officials and current ident officials who 413 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: were not only a part of the list of people 414 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 4: that were, you know, a part of this influence campaign, 415 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: but to actually saw emails from these people. Now they 416 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: were at think tanks at the time that they call 417 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: that they saw some of these emails, but it was emails. 418 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: You know. 419 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: One guy essentially said to the to the foreign minister, 420 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: I'm a proud Iranian American. I'm going to do anything 421 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: that I can to help Iran, almost pledging allegiance to Iran. 422 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: And so when you when you start to look at 423 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 4: the correspondence. It's pretty damning from the perspective of Buck. 424 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: I thought, how in the world did these people have 425 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: security clearances? You know, how are you currently working in government? 426 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: If you were emailing the Iranians Foreign Minister's age talking 427 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: about how you would publish publicly support their side during 428 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 4: the nuclear negotiations, you weren't talking about it as an 429 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 4: independent analyst. You were talking about not taking the American side. 430 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: You were talking about taking the Iranian side, which is 431 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: just pretty wild and mind blowing to me. And also 432 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: there you know, some of these people that were involved 433 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 4: and caught up in these emails also were a part 434 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: of the six billion dollar rents and payment agreement that 435 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: the Biden team just paid to the Iranians last week. 436 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: So this is why would it can easily be looked 437 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: at as like, well, this is a niche story. I 438 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: don't think it's a niche story because it shows that 439 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: the Iranian regime set out to get these former Obama 440 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 4: and some current Biden officials to get them to influence 441 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: United States foreign policy on behalf of Iran. 442 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: Morgan, thanks for coming on with us, and I saw 443 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: your tweets this morning, which was what which was kind 444 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: of made me think, oh my god, this is kind 445 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: of a big story, and I bet a lot of 446 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: our audience would know. 447 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: And you just hit on it. 448 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: We just gave six billion dollars to Iran, I think 449 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: for five prisoners to be returned as part of a 450 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: prisoner exchange. Also, how much money did we give Iran 451 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: over the initial Obama deal? Because am I correct to 452 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: remember that basically we just flew in planes filled with 453 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: cash and that happened, right. 454 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 4: That absolutely happened. That was reported, that was uncovered by 455 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal. The Obama teams thought that they 456 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 4: would get away with that. It ended up being at 457 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: least ninety billions of dollars also in sanctions relief. And 458 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: by the way, you know, what do we think the 459 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: Iranians did with that money. Well, we know that they 460 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: increased their ballistic missile production so that they can more 461 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: easily threaten Israel, threaten their neighbors, eventually threaten the United States. 462 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: We obviously have troops in the region. You know that 463 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: money did not go to public health, infrastructure, right, or 464 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 4: roads or bridges or new schools. That money and sanctions 465 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: relief went to the Shia militias. Around the region that 466 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: Iran uses to destabilize and to commit acts of terrorism. 467 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: So the United States sanctions relief directly contributed, directly contributed 468 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: to groups like you know has Bulah and Hamas and 469 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: other Shia militants, for example, the ones in Iraq, which 470 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 4: Buck knows quite well, which attacked American interest in have 471 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: seeing some American contractor deaths due to that. So they 472 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: you know, they didn't keep any of their promises. Of 473 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 4: course they didn't. You'd be silly to be silly to 474 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: believe in the first time, and especially silly to believe 475 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: of the second time. 476 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: While we've got you, Morgan, I saw a story and 477 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: I bet you have an interesting take on it speaking 478 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: of Iran, where MBS who basically run Saudi Arabia said, well, 479 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, then Saudi Arabia is 480 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: also going to need nuclear weapons. Yeah, what do you 481 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: think about that? And what is the geopolitical status right 482 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: now as you see it of the Middle East. We 483 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: tend to focus right now on obviously Europe with Ukraine, Russia, 484 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: and then the threat of China Taiwan. My eyebrows got 485 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: raised a little bit about the idea of Saudi Arabia 486 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: also having nukes, Iran having nukes, given how unstable many 487 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: of those countries in the Middle East could be, how 488 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: nervous should we be about that? 489 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: Well, Listen, I lived in Saudi Arabia at the US 490 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 4: embassy from twenty ten and eleven in the Saudist told 491 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: me that back then, right, they said, if Iran is 492 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 4: a nuclear weapon, we have to get one. So while 493 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: that position is not is not new, I definitely think 494 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: that it's the first time many Americans are hearing it, 495 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: and we should be very considered concerned because there is 496 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 4: no plan from the Biden team to stop Iran from 497 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: getting a nuclear weapon. We were very clear in the 498 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 4: Trump administration. We ripped up the JCPUA. We said, this 499 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 4: is not a treaty, right, the Obama team did not 500 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 4: go to the Senate to get it ratified as a treaty. 501 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: It's a political document. By the way, they didn't go 502 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: to the Senate because they knew they couldn't get the votes. Also, 503 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 4: not even from their own party, Chuck Schumer and others 504 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: other Meninda's well, Menandaz isn't a great example, but at 505 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 4: the time, but you know, so, we've never believed that 506 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 4: we instituted the maximum economic pressure campaign, and President Trump 507 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: stated it very clearly, by any means necessary, Iran was 508 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: not going to obtain a nuclear weapon. And the Iranians 509 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: knew that Trump was serious because he took out Costom Soul, 510 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 4: the money, you know, their world leading terrorists, the person 511 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: who is in charge of the IRGC and so, which 512 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: is the Iran Revolutionary Guard by the way, sary to 513 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: use the acronyms. So that's I think what we're missing 514 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 4: from Team Biden is they have tried for three years now. 515 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: They chase the Iranians around the world, tried to negotiate, begged, cajoled, 516 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: pleaded for them to get back into the deal. The 517 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 4: Iranians haven't done that because the Americans, the current administration 518 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: is not enforcing the sanctions on Iran, So like, why 519 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: would they make a deal with us. There's sanctions placed 520 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: on them that no one respects her or enforces. There's 521 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 4: no credible threat of force from the Biden team saying 522 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: if you do this, we're going to stop you. So, like, 523 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: what'sn't it for them to get a deal. There's nothing 524 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 4: really good in it for them. 525 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Morgan or tegis everybody. Morgan appreciate you being here. 526 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 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So do we The Sunday Hang, a weekend 554 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: podcast to lighten things up a bit. Find it in 555 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app 556 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts. 557 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate Morgan 558 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: or tagus there explaining what I think is kind of 559 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: a complicated story, but basically Iran go figure playing us 560 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: getting billions of dollars that was that was sent in 561 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: partly based on that that being able to play us, 562 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: And uh, I just I just come back to this, Buck. 563 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: I know we're gonna be talking a lot about twenty 564 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: twenty four. Tomorrow is the debate. We'll spend a lot 565 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: of time talking about the debate. What can you point to? 566 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: This is a question that I think is going to 567 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: continue to echo all throughout the next you know, thirteen 568 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: or fourteen months. 569 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: As we get ready for the election. 570 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: What can you point to and say, you know what 571 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: the Bidens were really on top of this. 572 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: Graft corruption getting money from China. I mean they do 573 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: have some skills, Clay be fair. 574 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: I mean that is objectively, their entire campaign is going 575 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: to be Trump is an existential threat to democracy with 576 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: a with also a layering of they're going to put 577 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: you in prison if you get an abortion. But none 578 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: of it is going to be hey, we've actually done well. 579 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: And this is where I think this Bidenomics argument that 580 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: you laid out is really going to blow up in 581 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: their face when you argue, hey, we're responsible for the 582 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: economy and it's the worst economy ever for many people 583 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: out there. When it comes to we're about to hit 584 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 2: four dollars a gallon gas inflation, everything has cost everybody 585 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: who has got who has been working, has gotten a 586 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: default pay decrease because of this. 587 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: That's a tough spot to be in. They will use 588 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: every lever at their disposal, to obviously to include mortgaging 589 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: our future financial prospects in this country to make it 590 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: look good in the election year. As I said before, 591 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: though they don't really have that much that they or 592 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: at least it's not readily apparent to me what they 593 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: can do to try to juice the numbers in their 594 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: favor all that much. But I also this is the 595 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: eor in me hers been he I know I was 596 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: in it. I was like very I've been very positive 597 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: recently about Trump's prospects, but this is one thought that 598 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: I keep having. Obama went into Now, Obama was a 599 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: once centner generation Democrat, political talent, et cetera, et cetera. Fine, 600 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: he went into the twenty twelve election with it was 601 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: it was the case, the worst recovery out of a 602 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: recession in seventy years, Okay, the worst, the slowest, most 603 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: sort of anemic recovery possible, and yet he won reelection 604 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: by a lot. You know, I think what Biden's going 605 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: to do is say, effectively juxtapos where we are against 606 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: when everyone's masked and fighting the virus and COVID and 607 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: lockdowns and all that stuff, and say, see how far 608 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: we've come now. I don't know if that's going to 609 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: work for their purposes. To me, that argument is is preposterous. 610 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: Right to me, that argument makes absolutely no sense. But 611 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: that's something I think that they will try. And I 612 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: think that the January sixth stuff, you know, to what 613 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: I want to know is if you get swing voters 614 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: in the key states to sit down and you start 615 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: asking them, you know, does your opinion of Trump? Did 616 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: it change after January sixth of twenty twenty one. I 617 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: would like to see what that data looks like, because 618 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: that's the thing that's concerned learning to me about Trump prospects. 619 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: Maybe the answer, by the way, is they've overplayed it 620 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: and we've heard it a million times and who cares. 621 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: But I don't think Democrats believe that will be the answer. 622 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I think that that's the center of their plan. 623 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: I want at the start of the next hour, I 624 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: want to go back into buck this Axios headline. 625 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: I swear I know. I'm like, I know what Clay's 626 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna say. Let's talk about how Biden can't walk. Let's 627 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: talk about how Biden's stumbling all over the place. That's 628 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: what Clay wants. 629 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: Just like, let's set the table here for everybody just 630 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: to think about. Wake up the morning. We talked about 631 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: the prep. Everybody like we're reading, trying to make make 632 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: sure we're on. 633 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: Top of everything. 634 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: I open up the Axios Morning Email because they do 635 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: a good job kind of distilling and giving you an 636 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: idea of what the talking points of the day are 637 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: going to be, and the Biden campaign's top focus right 638 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: now is let's figure out how to stop Biden from 639 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: tripping again. I can't believe that this is real, and 640 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: it reminds me of as a mission I know, and it 641 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: brings me that I wanted to hit this from our VIPs. 642 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: Mark says Buck, gentleman, I appreciate it. 643 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 2: It's time for Buck to capitulate. The chances of Joe 644 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: Biden making it to the campaign finish line are zero. 645 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm not joking. 646 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: The Democrats have tried everything they can think of to 647 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: put lipstick on this political pig. But if you ever 648 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: seen an elderly woman with lipstick on her face because 649 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 2: she can't find her lips, that's Uncle Joe. It's a 650 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: good analogy. Energy, border, inflation, crime, go no further. He 651 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: loses on every one of these issues. Add in that 652 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: he probably will be needing twenty four hour nursing care 653 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: by this time next year. It's a fantasy that he'll 654 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 2: be a candidate. Just saying, I think Mark various stute 655 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: of of the political process. We migulate Buck. 656 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: We need fewer of Clay's extended family to call an 657 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: email today. I'm just gonna put that out there, all right, 658 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: second cousins in uh In, you know, different parts of 659 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: the SEC country need to stop. I appreciate. 660 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate my good friend Judy in Kentucky, eighty three 661 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 2: year old grandma of three who has excellent taste in radio. 662 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: That's all. I thought. She'd even thrown me a little like, 663 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, consolation, like you're okay, Buck, nothing nothing from Judy, 664 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: no love, no but but seriously on the on the 665 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: VIP listener, mark, vip listener, Mark. I'm going to mark 666 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: this day because I expect that when Joe Biden is 667 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 1: in fact the Democrat nominee, Uncle Bill Bill o'riley's gonna 668 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: be in the show tomorrow, I'm gonna do the same 669 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: thing with him. When that happens, I expect an email 670 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: in perhaps Shakespearean's sonnet form about what a a a 671 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: brilliant political mind who will not buckle to conventional wisdom. 672 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: Mister Buck Sexton is okay, k vip mark you mark 673 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: this day. 674 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: I am going to read some of these axios headlines 675 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: in the Biden They're worried, they're trying to make sure 676 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: he can walk. This is not like your ten month 677 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: old grandchild. And you're like, well, we're trying to make sure. 678 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: We're hoping that he can walk by Christmas. We're hoping that, 679 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: you know, he's going to be able to wear these 680 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: new shoes that we got for him. It's the president 681 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: of the flipping the United States, Buck, and the Democrat 682 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four political strategy is we got to do 683 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: everything we can to keep him from falling. 684 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: And I just want everybody to think about this for 685 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: a minute. 686 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to pull yourself and I'll expand on 687 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: this a little bit, Buck, but if you ever think 688 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 2: to yourself, am I behaving in a crazy way? Sometimes 689 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: you have to take yourself out of the context. You'll 690 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: look crazy. 691 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: Democrats