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Speaker 1: Hey there, fan Ritos, Welcome back to a brand new

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Speaker 1: episode of How Rude Tanner Ritos. Today, we have a

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Speaker 1: guest that we are so excited to talk to. You

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Speaker 1: know him as Derek from Full House or Waldo from

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Speaker 1: The Little Rascals. It's Blake mcgiver ewing. Blake isn't just

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Speaker 1: a talented actor. He's a director, a composer, a singer,

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Speaker 1: a vocal coach, a personal trainer. I mean, the list

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Speaker 1: just goes on and on, and we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: catch up with him and talk about Full House and

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Speaker 1: everything beyond. So let's welcome Blake.

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Speaker 2: Yayyay, Hey, Hello.

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Speaker 1: We were just admired in your headshot on your profile picture.

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Speaker 1: You'll great, yes, yes, Oh my gosh, it's so good

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Speaker 1: to see you.

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Speaker 2: So good to see both of you. My goodness.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been a few years. We saw you

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Speaker 1: briefly on Fuller House, which is great to have you

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Speaker 1: back on the show.

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Speaker 2: That was so fun, so fun.

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Speaker 3: But were you back for the wet Was it the

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Speaker 3: wedding episode that very last episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 3: wedding Okay, the wedding episode, yeah yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I know. We got to have a lot

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Speaker 4: of people come back for that one. That was really fun.

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Speaker 1: Danny was trying to find a minister, I think, and

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Speaker 1: so you were like auditioning with jazz hands.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's right. Yeah, yeah, he was doing the Yankee

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Speaker 4: Doodle moment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I came in with tap shoes like I

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Speaker 2: would of course, darn y.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were like, could you tell you like, I'll

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Speaker 4: bring the tap shoes. Yeah, I got it, I got

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Speaker 4: it handled.

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Speaker 1: Do fans ask you to do the Yankee Doodle Boys

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Speaker 1: song or any any of those things when you're out.

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Speaker 2: In about absolutely, yes, I get requests for it. Also,

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, this is this is the time

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Speaker 2: of year where I like start to hunker down like

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Speaker 2: like a cold war b you know, my fourth is

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Speaker 2: coming this season. Yeah, the memes start coming, the.

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Speaker 3: Memes yeah yeah, yeah, you can't the whole yeah.

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Speaker 2: The hat, the suit, the whole business, all of it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was fabulous.

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Speaker 1: It was so great. But yes, we understand is former

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Speaker 1: child actors what that is like when that follows you around.

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Speaker 3: For the host, like, yeah, it takes there's like the

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Speaker 3: the in between period of like oh no, not again,

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Speaker 3: and then you're.

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Speaker 4: Like you know there's a meme of me.

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Speaker 3: It's a mean people know what it is like, people

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Speaker 3: are like, yep, I know what that means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Honestly, it as an honor and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad that it still brings people joy.

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Speaker 4: Right, it absolutely does.

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of uh, Andrew sort of said it too

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Speaker 3: on your Instagram bio. It states you're a recovering child actor,

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Speaker 3: which I know we can all relate to.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I might steal that.

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Speaker 4: That's fantastic, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely please steal it. Yeah, I feel like we're

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was lucky that I wanted to do it. My

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Speaker 3: Into it, and you know, we all you were one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very that And since both my parents were in

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Speaker 2: funny because you become a teenager, you become a you know,

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Speaker 3: You have to there's a whole extra layer of getting

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just a it does create I think

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Speaker 2: Really absolutely, it's it's it is an identity crisis of

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Speaker 4: I would call it my quarter life.

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Speaker 3: Crisis because I'm like, I was about, like, I don't know, fourteen, fifteen.

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Speaker 1: And anytime you anytime you run into another former child

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Speaker 2: Too, absolutely. And I feel like we were so lucky,

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Speaker 2: you know I did. I did a lot of like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really, it really was a special place. Everyone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and dropping into somebody else's rhythm is so

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, especially as a kid.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you and Taj and Journey Smallett when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was such a delight.

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Speaker 1: Michelle really did have outstanding friends, Like just looking did

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Speaker 1: Nico Hughes like you said, like, yeah, all of yourself? Wow, dang,

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Speaker 1: she had some really talented friends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, heavy hitters from the start yep, straight out of

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Speaker 3: when did you know you wanted to be an actor?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I knew. I knew pretty pretty early on.

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Speaker 2: And I was too young to compete, So she had

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so was Full House your first acting job

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Speaker 2: And then but yeah, first sitcom experience was was full house.

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Speaker 1: Man, Oh, your parents must have been so proud.

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Speaker 4: That so great? And how old were you were you? What?

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Speaker 2: I think I was seven when I that first that Yankee.

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Speaker 2: I was on the show seven eight nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you said you auditioned cold, Like, do you

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Speaker 4: One of those things where you're like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That one blends in. What I do remember is how

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Speaker 4: Right, so much fun. Yeah, the school room is like

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Speaker 3: It's like a weird circus and you're like, but also,

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Speaker 1: My face is like, oh yes, classic, I love that.

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Speaker 1: We're not there yet, We're still we just started. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: We haven't met your character yet but soon.

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Speaker 2: I think there were a lot of similarities. You know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Derek, Derek and I always feel I always

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, he hasn't left San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, he is.

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Speaker 2: Been fun to see. Yeah, where are they now of

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Speaker 3: Chi That's what We'll just do the spinoff with Michelle,

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Speaker 4: It'll be in the same in the same universe.

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Speaker 1: Full of Michelle's friends without Michelle, full of Michelle's right

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Speaker 2: That was the biggest blessing that they said yes to

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Speaker 4: But they would let them go to do it yes.

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Speaker 2: And they absolutely could have refused, like but by the

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Speaker 4: Like what do I want?

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Speaker 2: She came one season later. We that's when we sang

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Speaker 4: Wait? Did we do a full house go cart race?

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Speaker 1: I remember you and that little redhead up there. You

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Speaker 2: Totally, And Dave had on those Elton John glasses and

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Speaker 1: It was wonderful, classic full house moment. Oh I love it.

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Speaker 2: I got to do quite a bit in those years

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Speaker 2: on the Disney series Recess for many many season actually

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00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: the whole the whole show. And then I did the

442
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 2: last few seasons of Hey Arnold. I was the final

443
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: I was the final voice of Eugene, the one with

444
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: the like the hair that looks like yeah, which and

445
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: we did a hilarious musical episode of of that.

446
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 4: Oh amazing, like it was the show.

447
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 2: And then a ton of you know, a ton of

448
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: in between, you know, quick quick things. I did random

449
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 2: boy is in Tarzan, I did random voices in Anastasia,

450
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 2: you know, through.

451
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 4: Throughout some fun Disney.

452
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: Stuff, fun Disney stuff, Yeah, some really really cool UH

453
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: did some Warner Brothers stuff. Got to do the Animaniacs

454
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 2: and Pinky in the Brain. And there was a history

455
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 2: recap show called Hysteria that we did with Chrese Summer,

456
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 2: who's just such an icon of yeah and so like.

457
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: To get to work with her was like.

458
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Speaker 4: The pinnacle I've worked with her brother. Oh okay, Rainbow, oh.

459
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: Amazing, who was in an one of the movies I

460
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: did for Hallmark.

461
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, again like how cool.

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're in Canada like and he was like,

463
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I think my sister.

464
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's always small interesting.

465
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, less less than six degrees of separation, always

466
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: sure for.

467
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: Those of us that worked in that period and are

468
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 3: still where we're like, we're we're dragging ourselves through it.

469
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Speaker 2: You know, we're doing it. We're doing it.

470
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Speaker 4: Which do you.

471
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 3: Like voice acting and like singing or on stage on camera?

472
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: Which what is your favorite, uh sort of way to perform?

473
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Speaker 4: Do you like live theater or I think I always.

474
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: Go back to live theater because it's where I started,

475
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: and it's for me. It's that it's it's been there

476
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: at every point of my career and it's kind of

477
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: what informs all of the different work that I do.

478
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: I started directing a lot of musical theater after college,

479
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: and that's kind of been that's kind of been what's

480
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: kept me in my artistic passions in between amazing the

481
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: bigger projects or the you know, the more commercial projects,

482
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: and so that's that's been I will always go back

483
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: to it. There is something so divine to me about

484
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: the exchange, the energetic exchange with an audience and performance.

485
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: And I love so many types of theater. I just

486
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: spent two weeks in London and saw everything from like

487
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: the most heart wrenching, you know, experimental type theater to

488
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: like clueless the goal and enjoyed it all, you know,

489
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 2: like I really do. I am such a fan of

490
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: the work. I'm a fan of theater and I love

491
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: doing it, I love supporting it, and it is always

492
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: going to be my heart and soul.

493
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Speaker 1: What were some of your favorite productions that you directed?

494
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Speaker 1: Can you pick a favorite?

495
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: Gosh, it's it's it's hard to pick a favorite. But recently,

496
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: right after the right after we started theater again after

497
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: the pandemic, I got asked to be an associate professor

498
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: at the University of Mississippi. Of all places, in their

499
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Opera department, you direct a production of The Light in

500
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Speaker 2: the Piazza, which I don't know if you know the show,

501
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: but it's a very intimate, small show and we were

502
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: doing it in this giant performing arts hall that they

503
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: have at the university. I mean it's literally where one

504
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Speaker 2: of the presidential debates happened.

505
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Speaker 4: It's like it's a giant, right, and it's like.

506
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: And this is like a you know, a cast of ten.

507
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: But it was so incredible and I love the piece

508
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: so much. And when the hoser, Adam Gettle, heard about

509
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: what we were doing with it, and he was very

510
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: excited that this you know, southern kind of you know,

511
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: historically conservative area was putting on this this fully color

512
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: blind cast of his very Italian, very nineteen fifties piece.

513
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Speaker 4: Right.

514
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: He came down and we got to spend a week

515
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: with him, and he that's amazing, and he got to

516
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: see you know, we got to talk about like why

517
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: I loved the show and my take on it and

518
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: all of that, and it was just it was such

519
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: a beautiful, special kind of thing for a show that

520
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: he doesn't get done very often. You know, it's it's

521
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: fairly niche, but it's just such a brilliant piece of theater.

522
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: And to get to do it in that way and

523
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: presented it to an area of the country that definitely

524
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Speaker 2: didn't see the national tour right, right, you know, it

525
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: was really cool.

526
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Speaker 4: Oh, I love that.

527
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Speaker 1: Did you have any connection to that area.

528
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: Or you I do I have some family family there.

529
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Speaker 2: I have some family that lived down in Oxford, where

530
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: the town where the universe he is, that have connections

531
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Speaker 2: to the university. So I didn't completely come out of nowhere,

532
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: but it was a really really neat, really really neat experience.

533
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: Awesome.

534
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: So, speaking of opera, like, do you do operatic vocal

535
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: coaching or is it like I mean just I mean

536
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: vocal coaching sort of is all sorts.

537
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 4: But is that like a specialty of yours or do

538
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 4: you do a lot of opera singing?

539
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 2: It is? I don't do it. I don't personally do

540
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: a lot of opera singing. It is it is. I

541
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: was trained after kind of funny enough I did. I

542
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: did this in reverse, so like after Full House and

543
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: after Star Search and all of the singing on TV

544
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 2: and movies. Then when my voice changed, I went to

545
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: really study, Like I studied MARQUEESI, I studied Belconto, and

546
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: I studied Belconto and yeah, and did all the little

547
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: quirks and so sort of like learn learned all of that,

548
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 2: then studied with a teacher that taught me how to

549
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: teach the methods. Yeah, yeah, it became very important to

550
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: me I fell into I fell into coaching backwards. I

551
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: was helping friends get ready for their college auditions for

552
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: conservatory programs. Okay, yeah, And because I had done so

553
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: many musical theater auditions, it was very easy for me

554
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: to be like, what do you got, I'll cut it

555
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: to sixteen thirty two bars? Do this, do this, do that.

556
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: And one of my friends one day said, you know,

557
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: you should like do this, and I'm like, I'm I'm eighteen.

558
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to pay me to like coach them, and They're.

559
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 4: Like, right, they might, they might.

560
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so yeah, I've had a roster of vocal

561
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: students ever since.

562
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 4: Wow, that's amazing.

563
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

564
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: That's that's impressive.

565
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: I always loved I always loved going to uh singing lessons. Well,

566
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: I loved going to singing lessons. That is the practicing

567
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: in between as a teenager. And I was like, oh yeaheah.

568
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: The in between could be a drag.

569
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

570
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: But now of course I'm like, why didn't you listen

571
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: to your mother? You should have practiced more every day?

572
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, thank of what you could have done? And

573
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: you you composed music as well? I do, Yeah, yeah,

574
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: do your renaissance man. You do a lot of things.

575
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: Very proud of you.

576
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: I thank you. I you know, I I just like

577
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: to I love to create and whatever avenue, you know.

578
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: I just I found that in our very weird and

579
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: tumultuous business, the best thing that we can do as

580
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: creatives is to just keep creating, whether it's for a

581
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: large audience, small audience. You know, I feel so grateful

582
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: that I had these crazy, you know, opportunities as a

583
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: kid that we're seen by so many people. But I

584
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: try to take the work that I do now that

585
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: I know is not as not as big, not as huge,

586
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: not as commercial widely commercial, but take the same amount

587
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: of care in what I put out, even if it's

588
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: just personal things. Yeah.

589
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's you know, I find sometimes when like again,

590
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: the more commercial work or whatever slows, You're like, Okay,

591
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: I just have to throw myself into creating something, comedy,

592
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: writing this, whatever it is. Just I have to do something.

593
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 3: You're like, I don't even care if anybody sees it.

594
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't care of it, Like I just I have

595
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: to do it otherwise I'm gonna go crazy. Yep.

596
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: And I think you know, as you both know, when

597
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: when we into the sometimes into the throes of our business,

598
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: and it becomes so much more about the other stuff

599
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: and not the art itself, and we get so bogged

600
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: down in that. I think, just constantly creating, at least

601
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: for me, it keeps me so much more optimistic and

602
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: it keeps me, yes, for sure, it keeps me in

603
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: a positive headspace. It keeps me in a grateful headspace

604
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: and not in a just like oh, what's the next thing.

605
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 4: I just always feel like it. It just keeps.

606
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: The momentum going if you're you know what I mean, Like,

607
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: it's that the Newtonian principle like a.

608
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: Body, you know, a body of rest will stay.

609
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 3: Arrest, but a body emotion will continue emotion. So it's

610
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: like if I'm just working those creative muscles and doing

611
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: and be and also like going and doing a friends

612
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: show or doing whatever, like you said, you never know

613
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: when you're going to do a show and someone's.

614
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: There and it's like.

615
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: Hey, would you want to do star search? You know whatever,

616
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: like and things happen. So it's like it's kind of

617
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: that weird little uh thing about being creative and creating

618
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: work is that you sometimes literally created out of thin air.

619
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: I still teach once a week a dance class for

620
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: a small group of people here and just right here

621
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: in the valley. And it's like, my youngest student is nineteen,

622
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: my eldest student is eighty three, and it's just a

623
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: Broadway cardio class and it's literally just for an hour,

624
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: like easy, easy, easy routines, yea, and just for an hour,

625
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: we just enjoy the music and like the love of

626
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: musical theater. And it's not about getting the steps right.

627
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: It's not about it being hard, it's not about it.

628
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: It's literally just about the love of it. Ah.

629
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: I love great idea. Wow, that's fantastic.

630
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: I love that. I remember brought what we used to

631
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: do because I did musical theater.

632
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: If I went to Osha and did musical theater, and

633
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: I remember that was always one of my favorite dance

634
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: like sort of sections was when.

635
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: We did a lot of the like Broadway character work.

636
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: It was just so fun to you know, it was

637
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: just such a differ way to like dance, you.

638
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: Know, oh yeah, oh yeah, it's my favorite. It's all

639
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: all that character driven work, all that fossy stuff, all

640
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: that Michael Bennett stuff. It's yeah, exactly.

641
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: And an eight year old. Your hats off to the

642
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: eighty three year old. It's fantastic.

643
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get, we get it's it really is. When

644
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: I opened it up, I was like, I want this

645
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: to be all ages, and then it really has become

646
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: all ages.

647
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: That's amazing. I love it. I just want to be

648
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: that eighty three year old lady still dancing around.

649
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what I mean you've been again, Like you said,

650
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: you've been in this business. We kind of touched on it,

651
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: but what do you think would be the one piece

652
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: of advice that you would give someone who maybe started

653
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: young in this business and like wants to keep going.

654
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: For me, I always go back to when you know,

655
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: when people ask me about like what do you You've

656
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: done various things in various corners of the business, and

657
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: what what would you suggest, I always go, You've got

658
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: to look back inside and find whatever that initial spark is,

659
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, whatever that passion thing, whatever, that very first

660
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: thing that made you feel like, you know, it's a

661
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: little different for all of us, but for me, it

662
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: was like what it made me feel like, I've got

663
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: to perform, I've got to be on stage, I've got

664
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Speaker 2: to sing, i have to dance. I have to act,

665
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: you know, whatever that little thing is, and it it

666
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: could be, it could be less specific than that. But

667
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: if you can find that and replicate that feeling, or

668
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: at least try to replicate that feeling, that will keep

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Speaker 2: that momentum going. Like you've got to keep that fire burning.

670
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: It's like when that fire goes out, then then all

671
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Speaker 2: the chaos comes in.

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Speaker 4: You know.

673
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: We always have to go back to, Okay, what what

674
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: is this gift that needs to be shared for it

675
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: to resonate and to give back to others. And that's

676
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: because that's what we do. You know, we hold it,

677
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: we reflect exactly, and so finding the joy and the

678
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: love in that and what what is the passion moment

679
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: that made you start that in the first place? Always

680
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: going back to that, and I've had I mean, huh,

681
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: there have been times where I have lost Like, there have.

682
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Speaker 3: Definitely been times when you're like, I just don't I

683
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: don't know what I need to do right now, but

684
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Speaker 3: I think it might be just a little nothing and

685
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: we were going to figure this out.

686
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. This last fall, I was up in Rochester,

687
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: New York, in a two hundred and fifty seat theater

688
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: and I did a month run of the show The

689
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: Boy from Oz and I. It was one of those

690
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: dream roles that you thought that I thought, like, I'm

691
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: never going to get to do this, like it's such

692
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: a nobody does it. It's like so like it's like

693
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: that's it was like Hugh Jackman and then no one

694
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: like you know, and this this regional theater company up

695
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: there asked me to come do it, and I was like, yes,

696
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying yes. I've never even been to Rochester, am

697
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: I right, I'm saying yes. And I went up and

698
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: had like the most soul fulfilling, one of the most

699
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: soul fulfilling artistic experiences of my life with that cast

700
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: up there.

701
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: I love it.

702
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: And it was just brilliant being able to tell that

703
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 2: story for a month, you know, a magical month of

704
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh right, And that was one

705
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: of those moments for me. I was like, oh right,

706
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: this is why I do this, right. You know, when

707
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: you're when you're in the throes of the story and

708
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: you start to hear the sniffles and you start to

709
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: see the tissues come out, and I'm like, oh, this

710
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: is this is the divine moment.

711
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: You know, this is when you feel that impact, You're like, oh,

712
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: it's the grind of the auditioning and the social media

713
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 3: and the thing.

714
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: You're like, oh, this is I can't do.

715
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: But you know, somebody goes, hey, do you want to

716
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: come tap dance on the stage, and You're like, oh

717
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: my god do I Yes?

718
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: On my way right now? Right?

719
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Is there a dream role that you've never been able

720
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: to play but have always wanted to play?

721
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I there there are a few.

722
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: This the the one that like that just like stays

723
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: with me always hilariously and I'm almost aging into the

724
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: right to the right era for it. But I've been

725
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: joking with my my friends that I'm trying to enter

726
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: my valgeon period. I really, I just really want to

727
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: do the le Miss somewhere some way, somehow like that

728
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: is that is a bucket list Okay for me? Okay's

729
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: manifest So I'm like, I'm in the sweet spot now.

730
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll manifest it right here?

731
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Speaker 2: Right?

732
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it? Yeah?

733
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Speaker 1: Oh cool?

734
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: I love Well.

735
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: Do you have any other amazing projects or shows or

736
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: anything that you want to plug while you're here to

737
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: let people know where they can find your amazing performances.

738
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: That's very kind of you. I post pretty much right now.

739
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: I'm just posting on Instagram, so you'll see. That's kind

740
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: of where that's kind of my central hub, so you

741
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: can follow me there for all of the all of

742
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: the updates. I am working on something that sadly I

743
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: can't talk too specifically about, but I am. I am

744
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: in production, in pre production for an immersive musical here

745
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles that will hopefully expand to other cities.

746
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: It's a very interesting project and it's it's really cool

747
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: and there's some historical fiction involved, and there's audience interaction,

748
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: and it's it's a type of show, type of look

749
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: at a show that's never been done before in this way.

750
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: So we're there. I'm a history nerd.

751
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, yeah, please let us know, let us

752
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: know when you can, when you can talk about it,

753
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: please les.

754
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

755
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: So that's that's that's on the horizon. So that's that's

756
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 2: going to be My summer is just Oh, I love it.

757
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: I love what's your Instagram handle for people that don't.

758
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: Know, it's at Blake McIvor. My first and middle name

759
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: B L A K E M.

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00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: C I V E R got it's so cool.

761
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: Ya Well, Blake, this has been so much fun to

762
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: have you on the show.

763
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: I am so glad that we got to talk to you.

764
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're just you've always been an incredibly

765
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: talented human. I mean when you were a kid, you

766
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: kind of blew everyone away with just how like great

767
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: and theatrical and.

768
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 4: Amazing you were.

769
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: And I'm just it's really awesome to see that you

770
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 3: have continued it and that it is something that you're

771
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: so passionate about and love so much. Because that, you know,

772
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: some people walk away go, yeah, I don't want that

773
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: was the thing I did when I was a kid,

774
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: and then there's those of us that are like, this

775
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: is what I do, this is who I am.

776
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: Wanted to do this.

777
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you both so much. It's this has

778
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: made my heart so full and happy to get to

779
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: see your faces and talk to you and catch up.

780
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 2: This has just been a delight.

781
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: I love it.

782
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: Well, keep us posted on the The Vague Project because

783
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: because that's seriously, it.

784
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: Sounds really fascinating.

785
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 3: And I love live theater and I love interesting different

786
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: live theater, so that.

787
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: Sounds funny interaction like yes.

788
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: Right, yes, I'll tell you about it as soon as

789
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: I can.

790
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 4: Okay, it sounds good. Thank you so much for joining

791
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: us US today.

792
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: We really appreciate it, every one.

793
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: Oh that was so great.

794
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: Sam, Like I knew we had talked to him during

795
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: that season of Fuller, but.

796
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: He's just the best.

797
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: He's just the really is exactly so Derek would grow

798
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: up to be, you know.

799
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 4: Exactly if you have the same hair. He does have

800
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: the same hair. And I mean that in the best right,

801
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 4: Like just got you great follow you thick hair.

802
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, got hair envy for sure, good hair, yep.

803
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: But so great to see him and so amazing and

804
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: wonderful to see like how much he loves what he does.

805
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: Still it's contagious.

806
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: And his excitement for you know, musical theater, the business,

807
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: in creativity in general, it's it's infectious. It's really kind

808
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, yeah, that's true.

809
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 4: You know.

810
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: And and I think, yeah, there's the there's a lot

811
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: of us that got into this business and people like

812
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: do your parents want you to do it? And you're

813
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: like no, I we came out and we were like

814
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: I have I just want to do with like a performance,

815
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: you know, And and yeah, he is just one of

816
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: those people, and I never knew his mom did the

817
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: Dean Moon.

818
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: I had no idea.

819
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense, you know, the apple doesn't

820
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: fall far from the tree, but I didn't.

821
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Speaker 4: I do remember her.

822
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: I remember her in the stands when he would do

823
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: Yankee Doodle Bori interviews dancing, she would be dancing along,

824
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: yes and yeah, which blessed you know what I mean?

825
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: She I mean she probably choreographed it, right, you know.

826
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, at first I thought, oh, she's just being a

827
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: stage bomb, but no, she's.

828
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: Actually she's like, no, this is my number that I choreographed.

829
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: Don't screw it up. Yeah that's so great. But yeah, yeah,

830
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Speaker 3: the apple did not fall far from the tree in

831
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: that one. Love What a what a great interview that is.

832
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's going to wrap up our interview with

833
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: Blake mcgivory.

834
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 4: You and you guys.

835
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: Blake is such an incredible human being and we were

836
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: so excited to have him on the podcast.

837
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: It was just really really great.

838
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: So go check out his instagram, make sure that you

839
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: follow him, and also make sure that you're following the

840
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: podcast on whatever platform you're listening to it.

841
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 4: Follow us on Instagram at Howard Podcast.

842
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: Uh and You can also send us an email at

843
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: howarud Tanner Ritos at gmail dot com. Uh and yeah,

844
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: we'd love to hear your comments, your thoughts, your questions.

845
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: We might do another fan Question episode one of these days,

846
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: so we'll get more at those. And yeah, also visit

847
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Speaker 3: our merch store Howard Meerch dot com. We've got some fun.

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Speaker 4: Shirts up there. We're uh, I think we're coming up

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Speaker 4: with a new design for something.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we did.

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Speaker 4: We still have the special do we still have the

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Speaker 4: special T shirt from the Well, yeah, it's pre order

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Speaker 3: plan on seeing you guys next time because we love

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Speaker 3: you fan Arritos. So remember the world is small, but

860
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Speaker 3: the house is full of tap shoes, so many tap shoes.

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Speaker 4: That was that was my That was me so great,

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Speaker 4: that's me tap dancing. Okay,