WEBVTT - Daniel Jeremiah's 2025 NFL Draft Media Call 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.240 And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.400 What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ here. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:11.360 It is that time of year. We're getting ready to 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.520 head towards the scouting Combine in Indianapolis, and one of 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.560 the traditions is prior to getting on a plane and 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.720 heading out there, do a conference call with a lot 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.400 of media members where just fielding a lot of questions 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:27.000 about players, about teams, all sorts of draft conversation. It's 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.120 something that we've done for a long time, and a 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.920 few years back we realized, hey, won't we just dump 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.160 that into the podcast. You guys can hear it because 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.800 so many different topics are touched on during the call. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.680 So that's what we've got for you today. Is is 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:43.800 some cut ups here from my conference call with the 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:48.559 media ahead of the NFL Scouting Combine. Hope you enjoy it. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:53.360 It's chuck full a goodies. Trust me, I'm excited about 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.840 this draft. It is. It's a starter's draft, is how 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.440 I would phrase it. You know, going through and watching 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.320 all these guys combine and talking to a bunch of 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.000 people around the league. Okay, some positions maybe don't have 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.920 that superstar that we have had in years past. But 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:13.080 we do have a boatload of starters, particularly the defensive line, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.560 a bunch of really, really good players. So excited about it. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.759 Looking forward to seeing these guys in person and indy, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.720 and look forward to your questions. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.800 Great, thanks DJ. We will now begin the Q and 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.839 a portion of today's call. Use the raised hand function 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.240 to get in the queue to ask a question. We're 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.640 going to start with Jim Wyatt of the Tennessee and Jim, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:34.840 you can ask your question. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.640 Now Tennessee Titans dot Com. Yeah, I appreciate you having me. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:40.840 Yeah, I appreciate you having me leading off with the 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.280 number one pick too, Daniel, how you doing. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:45.160 Appreciate your time? 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.520 You earned it, buddy, you earned you earned the first 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:48.280 question here. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.680 So I noticed you've got Abdul Carter as your top prospect. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.960 I notice you've got the Titans taken him at number 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.240 one in your initial mock. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.000 Is he good enough? 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.800 Did you just stick there and pick or you look 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.320 to trade and if and to kind of go along 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.200 with that same question, how much interest? How much action 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.440 do you think they'll get with the potential trade at one? 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.799 Well, I haven't heard much buzz about action at this 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.200 point in time. Usually the combine, you know, as you know, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:19.640 is when that could pick up a little bit and 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.280 you'll start hearing some buzz. If somebody falls in love 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.840 with the quarterback, that's where the trades happen, and that 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.640 would be you know, that will be interesting because I 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.040 look at them and to me, I think there's really 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.440 a couple options. I think it's three players. I think 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.320 it's Abdul Carter. I think it's Travis Hunter or cam Ward. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.880 I think you're deciding between those three players, and then 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.840 the fourth option is the trade. But to me, if 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.799 I'm Tennessee, I'm not going past three unless I get 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.919 an enormous haul and I don't think. I don't think 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.640 you're going to get that in this draft. So to me, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.440 I think that's what their decision is going to come 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.160 down to. I think, you know, it depends on what 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.120 you're looking for. A very similar grade on Abdul Carter 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.080 and Travis Hunter. I have Abdul Carter a little bit 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.560 higher than him, and it's such a premier position, and 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.600 I think when you look at the pieces already on 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.120 that defensive line and you go out and you get 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.080 Abdul Carter. I think you've got a chance to have 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.560 one of the best units in the league. So that's 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.520 a good foundation to build off of. But they need 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.760 to do their homework on cam Ord and if they 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.160 feel confident and comfortable with him and they feel like 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.240 he can be their guy going forward, I don't have 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.840 I wouldn't have any issue whatsoever if they decided that 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.040 was going to be the direction they went. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:34.600 Thank you, Daniel, Appreciate you guys. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:34.920 Yep. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.560 Thanks. Next question is from d Orlando Ledbetter of the 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:40.920 Atlanta Journal Constitution. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:49.800 Yeah, Dj, you know, how does this group of fourteen George, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:54.320 I want to go fourteen, but Starks is the one 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:58.640 that's interesting, you know, perhaps for the facts at fifteen, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.280 but maybe while Boker, Mical Williams and starts. How does 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.320 this group look and project into the first round here? 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.360 Yeah, and they got a boatload of dudes, so you 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.480 know when I I'll just go through those top three 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:19.440 guys and yeah, Jalen Walker, he's one of my favorite 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.919 players to study. You know, he's got the versatility to 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.000 play off the ball. On the ball, I think he's 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.800 got a chance to be a special pass rusher. I 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.559 don't know if we're going to see him do everything 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.120 in Indianapolish. I know he'd been nursing some things, but 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.880 I anticipate when you see him run. If he does 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.760 decide to run, he can run in the four fours 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.080 like he's got legit, legit explosive. First, he plays with 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.680 a ton of energy. He's a tone setter. The thing 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.440 I love about him is, you know, okay, I see 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.440 he plays with energy and passion. He plays fast, he's physical. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.839 And then when you talk to the coaches at Georgia 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.599 and they say, like, this guy is like rare off 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.039 the charts in tangibles, you know, leadership. Uh, he took 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.280 over a couple of games that the Texas game at Texas, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.800 you know that was that was a statement there. So 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.120 I think he's, you know, he's a lock to go 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.920 in the top ten. Michael Williams is gosh. I just 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.760 wish we could have seen him healthy. You know, if 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.520 he doesn't get hurt in that Clemson game and we 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.280 see him at full strength, I think we're you know, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.200 we're talking about him as another you know, top ten 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.960 lock who's got a lot of freaky qualities to him. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.279 Freaky traits to him. He can really get off the ball. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.880 He's got, you know, a lot of power and violence 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.320 as a rusher. He can set the edge. It's just 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.520 a production hasn't been great, but that's because the guy 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.839 wasn't wasn't healthy all year long, and they still roll 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.560 guys through there. So I think the the Trayvon Walker, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.680 you know, experience and seeing how he's continued to develop 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.000 with the Jags, I think that's you know, when it's 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.560 all said and done, I will be more surprised than 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.359 not if he's if he's not all the way up 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.599 there in the top ten. And then Starks is a 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.839 is an intriguing one because you notice in when he 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.120 was younger and kind of like popped on the scene, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.760 and man, he's he's such an easy mover, like a 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.720 fluid athlete. He just didn't make as many plays this year. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.840 You know, he made the big pick, a big time 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.680 athletic interception down the field in the Clemson game, and 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.799 then after that just didn't make a ton of plays. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.040 But real reliable. He's an obviously really smooth athlete, takes 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.120 really good angles, you know, gets guys on the ground. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.560 I like the fact that he's young. I think his 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.599 best football is still ahead of him, and I like 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.400 the fact that he has you know, safety nickel flex 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.359 It can do a lot of different things. So to me, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.279 I think it'll be uh, you know, it'll be interesting 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.800 to see how he works out and how he tests. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.719 But he's you know, he's right there to me, more 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.760 so in the back half of the first half than 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.080 the first half of the first round. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.599 Thanks a lot. Next course, thanks Ryan, Ryan Dunn Levy 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:47.800 of the New York Post. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:56.279 Hey, Daniel, can you hear me? 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.160 Yep? I got you, man. Thanks for doing this. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.640 We need some franchise quarterbacks in New York Giants and Jets. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.839 Giants and Jets, you mentioned cam as a possibility for 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.360 number one for the Titans, but not Shador, which makes 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.240 me think you think there's a significant gap between them. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.880 And then you also have the Giants passing on Shador 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.840 at three with all the buzz. I mean, Shador obviously 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.120 thinks he's going to the Giants with his cleats and whatnot. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.280 What do you think in the top two quarterbacks, the 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.840 separation and their matches for the Giants and Jets. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.400 Yeah, when I first watched the quarterbacks, I stacked him 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.600 right next to each other, and they're totally different in 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.240 terms of their strengths and weaknesses. The more that I've done, 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.040 the more I've kind of created some separation, and that'll, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.200 you know, be reflected when the Top fifty comes out 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.280 next week, the updated Top fifty. I like Shador. I 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.400 think Shador is you know, when you look at the 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:53.280 things he does really well, the accuracy, anticipation, toughness, like 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.960 he'll you know, he just keeps getting up after taking 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.559 a beating. But you know, some of the other things 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.600 that Cam has he doesn't have. It's a little bit 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.120 more twitch in his body. He's got a more live arm. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:07.200 I think he's more equipped to play in that division, 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.040 in that in that stadium, in that environment that you're 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.120 gonna get with weather. I think Schador makes more sense, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.120 just as you know, relying a little bit more as 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.760 a touch thrower than a power thrower. I think he 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.840 makes more sense. You know, when you look at the 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.480 Saints make sense to me. The Raiders make sense to me, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.920 so more so about fit than anything else. When it 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.280 comes to those guys, you know, with the you know, 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.640 with the Giants not taking one in a mock draft, 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.520 I always like to just run through different scenarios and 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.480 you know what you're hearing, Okay, if this happens, then 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.760 then where do we go from from here? The mock drafts, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.319 as you get through free agency, you know they're gonna 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.240 it'll crystallize a little bit more. But there has been 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.720 a lot of chatter in talking to guys around the league, 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.200 you know, the Stafford stuff. I mean, I don't know 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.920 if there's legs to it, but I know that it 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.160 has got a lot of people in personnel departments and 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.360 general managers intrigued in seeing what's going to transpire there 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.280 with with him and the Rams. And the fact that 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.120 that they didn't just come out and say he's not 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.560 going anywhere has led people to believe that that's a possibility. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.800 And when I looked at the Giants and you look 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.040 at head coach and general manager, there's there's some pressure there. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.080 You need to get this thing going, especially after the 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.720 team and your division just won the Super Bowl. So 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.559 I looked at that and I am sitting here thinking, man, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.480 you talk about turning around, you know, some excitement here 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.280 in that market, and you trot out there Week one 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.800 and you've got you know, Matthew Stafford throwing the ball 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.600 to Malik Neighbors. You've got him, you know, looking at 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.079 Travis Hunter getting some snaps on the offensive side of 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.800 the ball. You've got who knows what else they can 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.120 do with the with the money they have and free agency, 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:46.439 and it is Cooper Cup. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:46.680 You know. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.360 Part of that is that a package deal with him 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.800 and Stafford. So that was my mind. That was kind 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.000 of where I was going in my fantasy land as 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.160 we got to that mock draft. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.960 Next question is from Nate Davis of USA Today. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.680 Nate, Hey, DJ, I wanted to just you're good at 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.520 synopsizing guys from from certain schools. It seems like this 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.959 year maybe we have more on the quality side from Michigan. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.120 Not the same quantity as last year, but just thought 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.160 maybe if you could have some of those guys up 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:15.560 for us. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.959 Sure, sure, I'll rip through a couple of them. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:18.160 Here. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.200 There's a it's a good group. Mason Graham. Gosh, he's 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.520 so fun. I watched him on tape and I fell 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.840 in love with him, and then I got a chance 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.400 to go to their game against Oregon, and I you know, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.560 there's a bunch of personnel guys and GMS down on 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.480 the field and we're walking down there and I see 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.400 Mason Graham walk by, and of course he's next to 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.240 Kenneth Grant's teammate, who looks like, you know, he's a 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.240 cartoon character, like he's an Adonis, how big he is. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.959 And I'm looking at Mason Graham and body type, and 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.400 I'm like, gosh, maybe I need to maybe i need 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.280 to adjust my grade. I think maybe I'm just too 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.880 high on this guy. And then I proceeded to watch 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.280 the game and I was like, nope, nope, he's he's 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.400 just really really good. So I hope people don't overthink 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.920 it with him as we get to the spring and 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.840 and kind of the further we get away from football. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:09.400 But he's got crazy elite leverage, balance and instincts his 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.560 you know, you can see there's a wrestling background there. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.640 He's just never on the ground. He gets underneath guys. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.920 I just wrote down when I was looking at my notes, 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.240 I had block destruction written down so many different times. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.360 He's just a real aggressive player who's got you know, 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.880 instincts and and can dominate the game against the run. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.400 And I think has more to offer as a pass 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.520 rusher Lovelin. You know, I think it's you know, I 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.000 think some teams are going to have him as a 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.080 top tight end. It's it's two different styles there with 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.800 him and Tyler Warren. But you know, he's someone could 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.400 really really run, can get in and out of breaks, 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.960 fluid for a bigger guy. He can go get it 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.560 with a huge catch radius. You know, he's he's tough 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.439 and physical after the catch and in the run game 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.680 he does enough. You know, he stays connected and shows 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.400 want to So he's one of the top ten players 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.559 in the draft from me. Will Johnson is is an 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.600 interesting one because there's so much, you know, hype on 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.480 him coming into the season and he's this big, athletic, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.160 rangey corner. He's got ball production. But I did not 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.360 think he played his best this year. You know, I 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.480 thought there were times where he wasn't super interested against 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.679 the run, and you know, he got trucked a couple 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.280 times against the run, so I just want to see 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.920 little more physicality there, and then some guys got on 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.880 top of him, so you know, I didn't get a 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.360 chance to finish out the year healthy. So I think 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.160 this will be a big spring for him to kind 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.320 of recapture some of that momentum he had off of 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.880 a much better season than twenty three. Kenneth Grannam mentioned 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.720 just massive. He's a you know, he's a people mover 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.760 and talking to the folks where he's been doing a 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.480 lot of his training. You know, at three hundred and 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.480 forty pounds, you should not be able to move around 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.360 like that. So you're you're hoping and dreaming on this, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.000 you know, Dexter Lawrence type ascension for him once he 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.840 gets to the NFL. Hasn't put it all together, but 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.680 it's all in there. And then lastly, I'll give you 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.320 one more and there's you know, a bunch more guys. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.520 But Josiah Stewart is just he's a bolt of lightning 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.520 off the edge. He's undersize, but if you don't look 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.240 at the size on your paper and just watch the tape, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.720 he doesn't play small at all. He can really generate 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.720 power as a rusher, and he's he's someone who plays 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.520 with just a maniacal effort and energy. One of my 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:17.880 favorite players to study. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:28.839 Next question is from Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal. Nate, hey, Daniel, in. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.679 Your latest mock draft, and you touched on the quarterback 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.000 debate earlier with Ward versus Sanders, but to the Browns 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:39.079 at number two. When you talk about fit, what specifically 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.800 had you going Ward in that spot? 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.559 Yeah, similar discussion. You know, having scouted that in that 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.439 division for a couple different teams, we always wanted guys 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.040 who were, you know, real rugged and strong. It's a 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.959 physical division you're gonna play and wind and weather as 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.199 you go throughout the season. Arm strength, Matt, there is 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:04.560 a little bit more there. You know, it's it's you know, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.319 it's look, I'm not saying that shood Or can't play there. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.040 He could fit in the system for sure. And you 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.200 know if they went in that direction, that wouldn't you know, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.080 totally blindside me or shock me. I just you know 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.880 know from being in that division and talking to people 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.160 inside that division, that's something that carries a little more 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.240 weight than than maybe in other spots. So I just 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.200 liked his ability. You know, if you look at Baker 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.000 and I know obviously went sideways there at the end, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.240 but even though Baker wasn't a really big guy, I 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.200 thought his arm played really really well there and you 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.760 know there were some ups and some downs, but I 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.520 didn't think that was that was an issue there at all, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.400 and I think there is some of that. You know 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.920 with cam Ord. He's just got a real, real live arm. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.120 So that that's why I like that fit. Thank you. 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.800 Next question is from Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.200 D J, I'll preject you doing this. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.320 You know, the Sexans pick at number twenty five, obviously, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.360 and obviously they need guard defensive talk of wide receiver. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.360 Just considering the realistic expectations of what could be there, 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.280 who would you consider be like a home run type 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.480 of pick for them? 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.720 Well, I's you mentioned the interior. The offensive line is 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.160 someplace you can address. I think you can address that 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.480 interior offensive line on, you know, later on in the draft. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.320 I think there is some depth along that interior. The 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.920 two receivers that I just think were ready made to 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.840 play there, and one of them is the obvious one 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.520 is a Mecca a Buka because of his connection and 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.520 history with CJ. Stroud, but can play inside, can play outside, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:43.120 just really really smart and instinctive and tough. I think 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.640 he would make a lot of sense there. He's you know, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.720 there's there's two guys. When I look at the Houston Texans. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.040 It's a BUKA is for those exact same reasons that 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.160 I mentioned, And then the exact same with Matthew Golden. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:56.560 You know, I have those guys right next to each 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.000 other on my list, Matthew Golden. I think both these 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.680 guys actually gonna run a lot faster than people think, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.320 but a lot of the same attributes. I've become kind 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.080 of obsessed with receivers, with the thought and keeping an 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.600 eye out for guys who are grounded through the catch, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.360 guys who really trust their hands and run through the ball. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.520 I just put more importance on that. You just see 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.280 the really great receivers in the NFL have that trait, 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.320 that quality, that confidence in their hands and allows them 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.240 to do so much after the catch as well. So 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.080 both those guys are grounded through the catch. Tough, smart, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.840 instinctive players that I think would be home run fits 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:36.840 there with CJ. Stroud. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.560 Next question is from Brian Whacker of the Baltimore Sun. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.160 Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this. Just stay a couple 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.200 of quick questions. The Ravens. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.920 They've got eleven picks in the draft. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.960 You know, how do you sort of grade the overall 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.840 quality of it? Depth, wise. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.440 And then secondly, is this a draft that they don't 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.879 trade up very often? But you know, is it a 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.159 draft where you could see maybe trading up in the 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.359 first round to take maybe an edge rusher like a 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.719 jail And Walk or Mike Green or somebody who can 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.840 have that kind of immediate impact edge rusher wise, a 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.480 position they've kind of struggled with in those in those 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.439 middle rounds. Finding those guys. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.080 Well, I one of the things you look at with 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.439 the Ravens is because they amass all these picks and 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.879 because they've played the comp game, you know better than 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.439 anybody else in the NFL, is you have options. So 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.760 if you absolutely fall in love with one of those 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.000 edge rushers, yeah, they have the ammunition to do it. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.920 I just don't necessarily think you have to. I think 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.679 there's a lot of depth along the defensive front, not 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.639 just edge rushers, but detackles. If they want to be patient, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.960 I think one comes to them. You know, Shamar Stewart 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.040 is someone that I paired up with them who's just 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.080 got a ton of twitch and a ton of ability 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.640 out of Texas A and M. I think his best 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:06.359 football is ahead of him. Even someone like Donovan Isaku 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.840 from Boston College kind of fits what they like in rushers. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.879 He's real long, he's firm, he's got some power, and 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.919 he's got a lot of production. So and we can 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.760 go on in the day too, like they're gonna there's 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.439 gonna be edge rushers there. The one thing you know, 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.359 my ears perked up thinking about them moving up was 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.080 with your question, was maybe an offensive tackle depending on 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.520 what happens with Ronnie Stanley. You know, if Ronnie Stanley 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.160 were to depart in free agency and you know, say 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.359 it's a Simmons or someone like that that they that 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.560 they really like and have a high grade on. It's 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.440 there's not a lot of depth of starting tackle caliber 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.480 players in this draft, so that would be more in 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.160 line with my thinking there. Okay, thank you, yep. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.719 Next question is from Martin Frank of the Delaware News Journal. 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.879 Hey, Daniel, appreciate you doing this as always well. Problem 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.960 when you're looking at the Eagles at number thirty two 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.119 as far as their pick is concerned, you know, it 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.639 seems like they have like quite a few needs and everything, 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.400 but is there also a chance they could trade out 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.640 of that of that pick and what do you think 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.120 the possibilities would be for that. 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.520 I wouldn't rule anything out with Howie you know, and 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.000 you know, go in either direction. But there they're rosters 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:32.760 in such great shape and we'll see what happens with 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.399 free agency. You got some some key guys there, but 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.919 they have so much roster depth, and they're you know, 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.800 traditionally a big line of scrimmage team in the draft, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.320 and this is a draft especially as I mentioned on 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.960 the defense side, that's there's depth and quality there, so 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.359 they could if somebody wants to jump up, I can 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.679 easily see them sliding back and trying to get some 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.520 more shots at it here on day two. I think 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.320 there's a lot of value in Day two in this 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:01.439 year's draft class, So that would be that would be 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.400 more likely to me than moving north. I think would 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.760 be moving south. But again, don't rule anything out with them, 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.080 and one in doubt, just sit there and wait for 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:15.280 some uber talented, you know, Georgia Alabama player to kind 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.919 of fall down into their lap. Thank you, all right, 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.520 let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.360 the rest of this year's NFL scouting Combine conference call. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:35.040 Next question is from Bob mcmannumn of the Arizona Republic. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.920 Hey Daniel, thank you for doing this. Question is about 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.919 the Cardinals obviously here I know sixteen where you've got 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:44.879 a lot of guys kind of in that area. But 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.200 I'm more curious about maybe three guys you really like 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.000 that could be available at forty seven, maybe whether their 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.760 defense or not. But I could see them doubling down 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:55.320 on two defensive players. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.080 Yeah, forty seven. I mean I still think again with 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.119 the edg rusherscifically, which is a big need for that 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.520 for that football team. As you know, just third down 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.919 pressure rate two areas indicate you know they've got some 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.640 work to do there. So if you're looking in that 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.280 range you're talking about, you know, Jack Sawyer from Ohio 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.040 State comes into the mix there, who's kind of a 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.040 real physical, rugged edgresher who can also really set the edge. 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.600 Land and Jackson from Arkansas had a monster Senior Bowl 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.040 and he's you know, six ' five and changed two 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.639 hundred and seventy three pounds. He can he can really 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.080 rush with that long arm, physical, he can close, he 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.000 can run, he plays with the effort. Those are a 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:42.199 couple guys, and I would say Prince Uman Milayan, I'm 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.040 gonna get that right when we get to the combine, 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.520 so forgive me, but at an old mess. He is 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:48.880 another one who popped at the Senior Bowl. Real long, 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:54.119 bendi athletic, he can really cover ground, so he's again 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.120 there's no shortage of edge rushers, especially in that that's 0:21:58.160 --> 0:21:59.879 kind of almost a sweet spot where I like that 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.840 lump of players. 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:10.360 Next question is from Stu Jackson of the Rams dot Com. 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.240 Hey, DJ, just looking at the Rams at twenty six, 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.960 do you see sticking and picking as the best option 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:20.639 for them or in order to address their needs? Would 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.240 trading back and trying to accumulate more shots in the 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.040 top one hundred and make more sense based on what 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:27.119 you think their needs. 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:31.399 Well, Less has done such a good job, you know, 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.280 and that and that range, and so getting out of 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:39.400 there and collecting extra picks, I'm all for that, especially 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:41.760 when you kind of look at the the direction that 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.679 they could be looking, you know, the tackle. I wouldn't 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:46.359 feel as confident of what you're going to get if 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.480 you trade back. But there's still a need for for 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.080 corners receivers. They could they could pluck a tight end. 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.840 I mean, there's that's good position groups there on day two, 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:57.840 So you know, if they were to slide back a 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.920 little bit and collect some more resources there. I've got 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.800 a lot of respect and appreciation for their ability to 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.040 scout and find guys there, so that would that would 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:08.399 definitely make sense to me. 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.800 Next question is from Nix Sus of the Tennessee and. 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.480 Hey, Daniel, you mentioned at the top that you wouldn't 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.240 necessarily see the Titans moving past three, or you wouldn't 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.439 advocate for them moving past three. I'm just curious what 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.880 your opinion would be on what a reasonable hall would 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:31.800 be for moving if you're only moving one or two 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:32.280 picks back. 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.600 Oh gosh, I'd have to pull up the comps on it. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.240 I don't have it in front of me right now. 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.760 But it does vary in terms of, you know, what 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.040 what the overall feel is on the class and how 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.560 how much they want to move out. I mean, I'm 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.520 sure they'll have opportunities to slide back a little bit 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.800 if they, you know, if they want to. I just 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:53.880 don't know if this is going to be the traditional 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:55.960 hall that you've seen for some of these other years 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.040 where you had, you know, like the and I know 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.320 obviously Caleb Williams was a little further to travel there, 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.119 But in previous years, I just think there's been a 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:06.280 higher opinion overall in the quarterback class, which drives price. 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.800 So to move back to three, I mean you're getting 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.280 you know, you're getting an extra you know, getting next 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.440 year's one. I guess you start there, But in terms 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.720 of how much on top of that, I don't know 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:23.160 that you get traditional costs and prices This year got 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:23.639 thank you. 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:30.159 Next question is from Eric Dalala of Denver Broncos dot Com. 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.600 ADJ. Sean Payton's talked about wanting to find this joker player, 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.680 whether it's a tight end in the receiving game or 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.119 running back that has that potential out of the backfield. 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:42.240 I know you had Loveland in the first round, but 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.639 any day two guys that you think could kind of 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.000 fit that mold if they decide to go somewhere else 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:47.680 in the first round. 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.359 Yeah, there's some fun ones, and I you know, it 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.160 got a lot of people I like myself. I think 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.600 looking around, going, okay, who would you classify in that 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.639 department as mismatch type players? So if I'm going to 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.600 go running backs and they are picking at fifty one 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.119 and eighty five, so if I'm just looking at some 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.119 running backs that I think are mismatch type players. Jayden 0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.520 Blue in the past game out of Texas, Like he's 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.879 a legit four three guy, and they use him on 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.159 a bunch of different ways in the past game, you know, 0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:19.840 angle routes, he can snap guys off, he can run 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:22.760 up the seam, even just getting him the ball on 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.399 the flat. With his speed, He's just he's a weapon. 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.199 So that one to me, I don't think you'd have 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:29.800 to take him in the second I think you could, 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.639 you know, get him in the third round. But that 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.840 was one when I was thinking about, you know, how 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.960 they would use guys. That was one that definitely popped 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:38.719 into my head from the running back position. 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:39.080 R J. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.440 Harvey is another one at a Central Florida who's you 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.560 know compact. He's you know five, he's under five eighties, 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.199 two hundred and seven pounds. But when I watched him, 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:49.840 I was like, Okay, who does he remind me of? 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.399 This guy's like a mix of Devonte Freeman and Tarik Cohen, 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.520 Like he's he's that type of just fast, load of 0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.800 the ground, shifty is just going to be a nightmare, 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.239 and they use him on wheel routes, they get him 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:03.520 the ball in the pass game as well, So I 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.199 thought him, you know, those are kind of outside the 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.480 second round, some fun mismatch tight players. And then from 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.280 the tight end standpoint, I think Fannin is a good 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.800 one from Bowling Green who's a little bit undersized, just 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.920 over six three, he's just under two hundred and forty pounds, 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.320 but he's he's just got a real knack for it, 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.919 a real feel for it, creating separation. He kind of 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.880 reminds me it's sec religious to say it because he's 0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.359 now going into the Hall of Fame, but he's like 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.760 a Minnie Antonio Gates just with his movements, just how 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.159 he kind of moves around. It's kind of a unique 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.680 movement style that he has. But your question like, how 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:41.840 fast is this guy? And then you watch Penn State 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.639 and you watch Texas A and M and he's just 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.640 kind of running away from everybody and creating a bunch 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.760 of big plays. So I think you'd have to take 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.520 him in the second round. I don't think he would 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.000 be there in the third round, but he's he's definitely 0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:53.040 a fun mismatch guy. 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:04.880 Next question is from Rus Franklin of NJ dot Com. 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.960 Hey Daniel, thanks for doing this again. The Eagles have 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:13.280 Zach Bond, Makai Becton, Josh Swat heading the free agency, 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.920 and if they can't sign any of those guys, who 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:17.720 do you think will be a good spot around at 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.000 thirty two or even in the top of the second 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.360 round that could either I vic Fangio's scheme or could 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.040 be quote unquote stubtlan guy if perspected. 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.720 Yeah, well, let's let's go to the offensive line first 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:33.040 of all. So if I'm looking at the interior offensive line, 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.840 you know, there's some interest to me that the no 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.760 brainer would be greats able if he was there from 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.639 North Dakota State because he has the versatility, and I 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.040 think that's one of the underrated aspects of what the 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.560 Eagles have done. But talks about how big they are 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.600 and in physical and all that stuff, But look at 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.359 the number of guys on that offensive line that have 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.880 cross trained at different positions. You mentioned Beck then coming 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.600 in from a tackle to a guard. Landon Dickerson can 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.399 play any of those spots inside. Jurgens played guard and 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.800 play center lane if you needed him to, I think 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.359 kick over to the left in a heartbeat. But Zabel 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.600 to me out of North Dakota State, he's got legit 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:12.520 five position flex. I think he's he's better off kicking inside. 0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.480 If Beck then were to leave, I think he's plug 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.879 and play year one at the guard spot. So that 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.440 one I like a lot Miles Frasier outside that when 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.959 you get into day two from LSU, he's got size 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.320 over six five, he's three hundred and twenty four pounds. 0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.280 I just think he knows how to play. He's he's 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.639 played some outside as well, but he's definitely going to 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.000 be a guard. But he's got some power, some torque, 0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.680 and some turn to him, So that one would be 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.440 that one would definitely be a match there. And then 0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.240 when you look at linebackers, it's not a great off 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.760 the ball linebacker year if and how he's you know, 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.840 he's not going to take a linebacker in the first round. 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.600 But if you know, somehow Johan Campbell were to get there, 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.320 I can't imagine he would, but that is a you know, 0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.920 he's a rangey, versatile athletic dude who can play off 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.880 the ball, you can play on the ball. He can 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.840 run like crazy. He's got a bunch of upside as 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.320 a rusher too, So that would be one there, and 0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.680 then you know, some of the linebackers as you get 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.720 beyond that. I like Poop Paul from Ole Miss, you know, 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.800 maybe third round, Cody Simon, same out of Ohio State, 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.560 Jeffrey Bossa Oregon, Barrett Carter Clemson like that. That group 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.600 of guys to me is kind of in that third 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.520 round range. Thank you, yep. 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.600 Next question is from Joe Rudder of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review. 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.080 Yeah, Hi, Daniel, I know in your two marks you've 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.600 had the Steelers taking offense in the first round if 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.600 they weren't address the defensive line, which is getting older. 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:46.120 What kind of player at twenty one you could potentially 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.520 see being there the Fitzer style? 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.840 Yeah, if you're looking at pick twenty one for the Steelers, 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.480 I mean, gosh, Michael Williams would be a lot of fun, 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:01.480 just because the physicality, require set in the edge, all 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.480 that stuff. He checks that box and I think he's 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.360 got so much upside as a rusher. I don't anticipate 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.320 he'll be there at that point in time. Him and 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.080 Mike Green are probably both gone, but either one of 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.640 those picks would be you know, to me, home runs. 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.640 Shamar Stewart is raw as can be, as we as 0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.480 we talked about a little bit earlier. But man, there's 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.320 a lot to work with, and I just I can't 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.080 imagine with someone with his physical gifts that he has 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:32.200 getting a chance to learn from TJ. Golly. That would 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:34.320 be fun if he were to get where he's capable 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.200 of getting talent wise. You know, there's there's a lot 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.040 in his body. So they'll they'll have options if they 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:42.960 if they want to go with an edge rusher, they're 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.520 going to have someone there that's worthy of that pick. 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.760 They're not going to have to reach if that's truly 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.360 the position that they wish to address. 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.880 Next question is from Andrew Kramer of Minnesota Star Tribune. 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:57.320 Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this. I want to ask 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.440 you about the Vikings of twenty four. You've got them 0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.000 taken a run back. Why do you think the running 0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.880 back run isn't going to start until the twenties this 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.480 time around? And then if they don't go running back, 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.640 what other kind of positions do you consider for them 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:10.360 at that spot? 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:12.760 Yeah, I mean, it's hard to figure out when the 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.000 run is going to go, and just to be totally 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.600 honest everybody. I kind of wanted to have some fun 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.280 with that too, with Ashton gent in a scenario where 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.040 he can kind of fall down a little bit. Ashton 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.520 Genty is my third player in the draft, so I 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.880 am a huge believer in his I think he is 0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.920 extremely high floor to go along with an extremely high ceiling. 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.560 Who's a I think he's a special, special player. That 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.560 the interesting part is, and just a lot of this 0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.600 comes from talking to people around the league, is because 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.080 of the depth of the class, and it's really it's 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:46.840 really good that, man, if you have multiple needs, maybe 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:48.960 you could see a scenario where teams are gonna punt 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.480 on running backs early and then just know that I 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.480 still got some options there on Day two. And that's 0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.600 with the full appreciation that there is there is more 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.080 love for running backs around the league after this last 0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.360 season with all those free agents. You know, all the 0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.360 leading rushers in the league were all free agents that 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.360 showed their value. And then we've seen with some of 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.440 these young backs in the league what they've done, led 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:17.000 by Jamir Gibbs. But that's that's why I went running 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:20.480 back with the Minnesota Vikings, because I just think they 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.800 saw they saw you know, inside their division, what what 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.800 you had with you know what, Jamir Gibbs and Man, 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.440 that would be an explosive, explosive player to add to 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.240 their mix. So if Minnesota didn't go in that direction, 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.240 and I look at some of their other needs, interior, 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:41.040 offensive line would be one, corner would be another. If 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.360 you just look at a corner position. If we're looking 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.840 at guys that could potentially be fits and options there, 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.520 I think Azariah Thomas from Florida State would be in 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.040 the mix. And I think you're going to start hearing 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.000 a lot more about Maxwell Harriston after the combine from Kentucky. 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:55.720 He's a really good player. I think he's got a 0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.040 chance to go in the first round. 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.880 Next questioniness from Dave Burkett of the Detroit Free Press. 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:07.400 Dave, Hey, DJ, I appreciate your time on these as 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.280 always a little two part question for you. I guess 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.520 there's a lot of teams sort of at the back 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.600 around one that have been rumored to be, you know, 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.200 maybe potential suitors for Miles Garrett or some of those 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.640 other pass rushers if they come out deep drafted defensive 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.959 line obviously, So can you walk me through the pluses 0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.800 and minuses of making a deal, and then obviously for 0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.720 a team like the Lions, if they didn't, if they 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.880 decided to use their picks on defensive line help, who 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:32.600 are some guys that you could see fitting them at 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:33.320 twenty eight? 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.200 Yeah, I mean that was a team that made the 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.960 most sense for me with Miles Garrett was Detroit just 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.160 because a if they ever are comfortable with moving them, 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:45.760 which it sounds like at this point they are not, 0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.600 but if they are comfortable to me, you get them 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:52.800 outside the conference and he goes to Detroit. Detroit has 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.440 you know, the roster that's ready to win right now, 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.400 ready to win a championship, and that could be a 0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.560 finishing piece. So you know, I would be I'd be 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.440 willing to be pretty aggressive. I think if I were 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.080 Brad Holmes on that front, knowing that that could that 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.080 could bring a parade to my city, I would be 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.960 aggressive and do whatever I had to do and try 0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:12.960 and make something like that happen. So I would just 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.000 have to see if it, you know, if it's a 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.640 legit possibility. Everything talking to people, you know, as of 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.000 later around the league, the expectation is now he's not 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:22.640 you know, they're not going to move him. He's not 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.239 going to go anywhere, so we'll see what happens. If 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.080 you're looking at edge rushers for where they're picking at 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.280 pick number twenty eight, you know, you start getting into 0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.319 you know, James Pierce, he could you know, he's gonna 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.200 be interesting one. He could go in the top fifteen, 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.279 he could go bottom of one, he could go top 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.319 of two. Like, there's a wide range on him. He's 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.560 a lean, skinny rusher, but he has got a ton 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.479 of juice and explosiveness. He really knows how to rush. 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.879 His first three steps are pretty dynamics. So that would 0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.680 be one we'll see in the mix there. Again, I've 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.880 mentioned some of these names before, but Shamar Stewart will 0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.920 see what happens with him. That would be another one 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.279 I think could could factor in for them if they're 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.319 looking for edge rushers. But you can get them all 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.080 throughout the draft. You can find them, you know, especially 0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:09.920 day two. There's a lot of other good options there 0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:10.799 for rushers. 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:12.080 Thank you. 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.240 Next question is for Matthew Parus of the New Orleans 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:17.120 Time Pecune. 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.560 Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this. 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:20.520 Just curious. 0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.719 You've talked a lot about the depth with the defensive line. 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.240 But could you talk about the the overall the quality 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.040 like the quality of the high end edge rushers and 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:34.160 specifically for the Saints at number nine, just some keew 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:35.160 options for them there. 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.160 Yeah, while Abdul Carter's gone, Jalen Carter, if he's there, 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.239 I would I would run the card up if if 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:43.719 you had an opportunity to get him. I just think 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.319 he makes all the sense in the world for him 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.120 and he's just so dynamic and not only just with 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.399 the talent that he brings. I think in year one 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.880 with Kellen Moore, I think having someone like that who's 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.640 gonna he's gonna take your message and spread it around. Uh, 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.439 he's that type of dude. So that one me would 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.359 be a home run. And then you know, I think 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.000 Michael Williams is the next one that would be, you know, 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.640 a worthy candidate for where that where that slot is. 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.680 And I think he's another one. Maybe a little patient 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.200 with him, but it's all in there and the upside 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:18.640 is tremendous. So I think all those guys are are 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.200 Both those guys would be you know, legit options and 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.800 uh would provide some serious juice to a pass rush. 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.320 So that's that's going to be curious to me is 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.120 what direction they go position wise, because I just think 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.279 Kellen Moore, coming off of the year he had and 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.560 seeing the value in the trenches and you know what 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.680 they had in Philadelphia, I'd just be surprised if they 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.680 went anywhere outside O line D line. 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.279 Did you mean Walker instead of Carter? 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:49.080 By the way, Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, Jalen Walker. Sorry yeah, 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.120 I got so many games Jalen Walker, Jalen Carter. I've 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.480 got there's fifty five Georgia, Jalen's and Carters. I feel like. 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.280 My next question is from Janat of the Athletic. 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.160 Hi, Daniel, thanks for doing this. I'm Jana with the Athletic. 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.520 I had a little bit of a broader question for 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.479 you for leading up to the combine. You know, last 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.399 year we saw some of those elite prospects sitting out 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:18.680 of drills. Do you see that trend continuing? And how 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.320 has the way teams view and analyze the combine changed 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:23.320 throughout the years. 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.960 Oh, I appreciate that. That's a good question. I think 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.200 you're going to continue to see it. I think especially 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:35.240 with guys who have a long track record that have 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:37.759 you know, I've played well. I've been viewed as kind 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.000 of top ten picks for an extended period of time, 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.839 and they have all the tape that's out there, and 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:46.480 teams have the GPS information. So that's the case that 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.960 they'll present as to why they're not going to, you know, 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.640 to be active at the combine. So I think that's 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.960 something that we'll continue to see with the top tier players. 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.960 I don't think it's going to spread all the way through. 0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.520 I don't. I think it's an opportunity for a lot 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.000 of these guys to compete, and a lot of these 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:05.839 guys still really want to do that. And if you're 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.960 not a lock in terms of your positioning, there's still 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:10.720 is a belief you can go out there and help yourself. 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.880 So I still think there's there's a there's value in it. 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.000 I think certain positions may be more value than others. 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.800 I've said this over the years, but I've always felt 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.320 like the corners have the most opportunity to help themselves 0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.520 at the combine. You know, they they run well, they 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.719 move well, that that can answer a lot of questions 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.359 and can can help guys maybe more so than any 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.440 other position. So yeah, I do think you'll see it. 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.960 I know, Uh, there's a there's a growing trend there 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:44.120 of not doing some of the psychological testing in those things. Yeah, 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:45.680 I don't. I don't think that's going to go back 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.080 to where it was. I think you'll see more and 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:48.759 more people that are going to probably opt out of 0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:52.359 that in the future. And uh, you know it's there's 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.680 enough information and resources out there for teams to be 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.799 able to figure this thing out without all that, So 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.439 I don't think that's that big a deal. 0:38:59.280 --> 0:38:59.600 Thanks. 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.320 Next question is from John Glennon of the Nashville Post. 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:10.200 Hey, Daniel, thanks for your time touching back on the 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.120 on the Titans there at number one again, well kind 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.400 of a I guess a devil's advocate approach. I know 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:19.200 you've got Abdul Carter going there, but if you're the Titans, 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:23.480 a quarterback needy team, why not take a quarterback? You know, 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.480 if you think he is better than what you have 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.640 and you can win with him, and you don't know 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.359 when you're next time, you know, thinking at number one 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.880 or or close to it will be, can't you make 0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:35.719 a good case for taking a quarterback there? 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.960 I think that's a great question and something I've been 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.080 thinking a lot about and did some homework on it 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.080 because I knew this would probably come up. But I 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.719 still believe you can make a case Okay, he's better 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.319 than what we have, But is that the Is that 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.239 the marker? Because then I would say, well, if you're 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.279 going to be right back, you know, two or three 0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.720 years from now, saying this isn't good enough, we need better, 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.719 especially when you're in the AFC where we've got all 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.799 these cyborg quarterbacks you have to compete with. If you don't, 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.480 you don't want to draft somebody you're gonna have to 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.920 replace within a couple of years just because he was 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:12.600 a little bit better than the guy you had currently 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.879 on your roster. And the pushback I get when I've 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.480 said that is, yeah, you never know what you're going 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.600 to be up there again. And so we looked it up, 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.880 and you know, okay, the Bears were up there and 0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.439 they had a quarterback that was better than what they had, 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.160 and they passed on it, and they turned around and 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:30.439 got Caleb Williams the next year. There's teams that could 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:33.760 have taken will Levis, the Commanders, the Patriots, the Vikings. 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.200 They all passed. The Commanders come back and get Daniels, 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.560 the Patriots come back get May, the Vikings come back 0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.920 get McCarthy. The Texans passed on Kenny Pickett twice. They 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.280 got C. J. Stroud the next year. The Jags passed 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.839 on Jordan Love. They got Trevor Lawrence the next year. 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.439 The Bills passed on Mahomes. Now, obviously that's one that's 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.600 worked out for both teams, maybe more so initially here 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.959 from Kansas City, but they got Josh Allen the next year. 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.960 So I do think there is some president there that 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.520 you know that you can't just say he's five percent 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.239 better than what we have, So we have to take 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.840 that position. That's just my thoughts on it. And you 0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.799 know that's why you have to decide. Do you think 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.359 do you envision with the quarterback you take at number 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.600 one that he's going to be able to help your 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:23.880 team compete against Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.440 Justin Herbert, Like you need to have those honest conversations 0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:31.120 in the draft room. All right, let's take a quick break. 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.920 We'll be right back with the rest of this year's 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.160 NFL Scouting Combine Conference call. 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.480 Next question is from Dan Whider of the Chicago Tribune 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.760 and DJ. It's obviously offensive line season here in Chicago. 0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.040 So I wanted to ask you first about Calvin Banks, 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.480 specifically at the tackle position, what you see in him, 0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.400 and then I would sable. I know you like his 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.560 versutil but what are some of the things on his 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.279 tape and his seniable performance that really jumped out at you? 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:09.479 Sure? With Banks, just I love the fact that he's 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.240 just He's three hundred and twenty pounds, He's thick, he's sturdy, 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.759 he can bend, He's you know, athletic enough to really 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.600 sink and bend, keeps his hands in tight. He plays 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.359 with patients, you know. The stuff that he gets in 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.520 trouble with is sometimes he sets a little bit deep 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:27.719 and then he ends up getting in some trouble that 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.719 way when he kind of creates more runways. So I 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.720 think if he could be a little more, a little 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.759 more firm and not getting quite as much depth in 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.960 his set, that he'll he'll be able to solve that problem. 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:38.320 And then in the run game, I just want to 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.960 see him show a little bit more strain and finish, 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.920 just a little bit more nasty to him in the 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.879 run game. But he's a he's a good athlete. He's 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.440 he's someone that I think can play. I think even 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.160 though he's not the tallest scandalld, I still think he 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.360 could hold up and play tackle no problem. And I 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.279 think he could. I think he could be hell on 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:01.799 wheels guard so that banks and then when you you 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:05.600 look at Gray's abel man the week of practice, there 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.200 were not many bad reps at all during the week 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.360 of practice for him. In the game, he got on 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.520 his edges a little bit and as he's kind of 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.640 moving around playing all these different positions. But he's someone again, 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.520 he's got really good balance, he's always under control, he's 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:25.000 never on the ground. He's got strong hands, he's really aware, 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.000 you know, in terms of seeing things and and picking 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.600 things up. He's he's uh, he's just a he's a 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.000 guy who's played a lot of football, who's polished and 0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.120 answered any of the smaller school so to speak questions 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.839 at the Senior Bowl, even though North Dakota State has been, 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.040 you know, a school that's pumped out a lot alignments. 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.120 So I'm I'm a huge fan of his and I 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:48.840 think he's he's definitely in the mix to go in 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:49.839 the first round. 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.840 Next question is from Ben Standing of the Athletic. 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:04.000 Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this for a team like Washington. 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:06.480 They've got needs on both lines. But of course there's 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.680 this push to get Jade Daniels more weapons. It always 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:11.400 feels like when you have a quarterback like that, he 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.440 can raise the level of receivers more than you have 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.239 to like get him star receivers. If that If that 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:18.759 kind of makes sense, So how do you kind of 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.920 weigh that option, Like you have this quarterback, but you 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.560 also need to get to build the line to help 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:26.600 them get to the next level. 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:29.839 Yeah, I mean, I think it's arguments you can make 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.480 on both sides of that, but I do I do 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.839 agree though that quarterbacks elevate the play of others. And 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:37.600 if you have you want to start, let's get him 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.920 protected and let's keep him healthy and then let's, you know, 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.760 let's let's be really good at scouting and evaluating players 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.919 that we can find without premium resources, and let's let's, uh, 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.919 let's surround them with some of those guys as well. 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:54.160 I think there's once that that foundation and the offensive 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.640 line is is built and steady, then I think you 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:58.759 can now you can go shopping for some of the 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:02.080 other things. Kind of always like use the analogy of man, 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.120 you got to go shop at the hardware store before 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.319 you go to the toy store. So I would I 0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.239 would continue to try and address that offensive line, not 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.560 only so you know, we can run the ball better 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.560 and we can do different things, but just to keep 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.719 him upright and healthy. And I think you can. You know, 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:20.120 Adam Peters is really good. You know, he's he's one 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.319 of the best evaluators in the NFL, and he's been 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:26.480 around a lot of good receivers throughout his career, especially 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.040 the group that they had up there in San Francisco. 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.400 So I'm confident he'll be able to find receivers without 0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:34.520 necessarily using the premium resources. 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:43.799 Next question is from Cassidy Hill of Panthers dot Com. 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.640 Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this. You had in your 0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.440 mock draft, you know the Walker coming here, but also 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.839 kind of mentioned the idea of a trade back. I'm 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.320 just wondering, when you're looking at a team. 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.520 Like the Panthers that have so many needs across defense, 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.720 is this a class that is deep enough to pass 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.520 on a guy like Walker just to get more pieces. 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.239 Well, I mean, it's a good discussion, and it's a 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:10.919 good debate in the room. I mean, I don't think 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.480 you want to do it just to get a fourth 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.520 round pick, but I think if you can, you know, 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.879 get some some quality resources, get another pick on day two. 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.120 He's a great player, and I wouldn't have any criticism 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:25.040 if they decide we're just going to stick and pick 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.239 him and and go forward. But when you have this 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.480 many holes, and this is a draft that does have 0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.600 a lot of talent and depth, you know, on the 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:36.600 on the defensive front, you know, I'd be interested in 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.080 that option. I'm not saying, you know that's the right 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.200 or the wrong way to go. I just think, man, 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.080 there's so many holes there, and you could fill a 0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.759 bunch of them if you could slide back a little bit. So, 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.520 you know, I think that's that's a good debate and 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.160 a good discussion. I could I could spend ten minutes 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.640 and argue it each way, so they just have to 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.560 see what they get. I definitely think you'd want to 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.799 get a premium. I don't think you just do that 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.880 just to go back and get an extra pick when 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:01.440 I get. 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.840 Called on which you happened in any second now or not, 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:05.480 Let's see. 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:11.120 Next question is from David Ferones of the Fort Lauderdale 0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:11.720 Sun Sentinel. 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.680 Nope, Hi, DJ, thanks thanks for doing this. I saw 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.360 you went Tyler Booker to the Dolphins at thirteen in 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.720 your latest mock beyond the obvious needed guard for Miami. 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.560 Why him? And how many different paths could you see 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:29.200 the Dolphins going with that pick, considering Chris Greer likes 0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.000 to go for his best player available and not necessarily 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.080 by need early in a draft where they do have 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.759 ten picks to address needs. 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.719 Yeah, I just think he's a perfect marriage of need 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.920 and fit and value. So you know, Booker, to me 0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:45.320 is one of the more consistent players that I've watched 0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:50.799 in this class. He's big, he's powerful, He's someone that 0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.040 when you talk to the folks at Alabama, they just 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:56.000 rave about him. In terms of the work ethic, the 0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.440 leadership of someone that told me he was like the 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.279 Will Anderson of their offense. In terms of the leadership, 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.560 someone had been around there for a while. So I 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.239 think all those things considered, I think you have somebody 0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.279 who's really really firm and pass pro with Tua. I 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.480 think the interior that offensive line being firm is very important. 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.520 So That's one that I just thought was a you know, 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.480 just a home run pick for them in terms of 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.640 all those factors coming together. That's why that one made 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.320 a lot of sense to me. You know, defensive tackle 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:28.080 could be an area they could go as well. And 0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.279 there's you know, there's no shortage of defensive tackles that 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:34.040 are intriguing in this draft. I mentioned them a little 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.440 bit earlier, you know, with Kenneth Grant, that would be 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:38.400 that would be a fun one to throw into their 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.360 mix as well, just as someone who is already dominant 0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.040 against the run, but somebody I think's got a lot 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.880 of upside as a rusher and someone who, you know, 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:49.359 if they can stay healthy on the edges, someone who 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.640 benefit those guys just because he's gonna he's gonna take 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:53.759 away the escape patch. Just his ability to push the 0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:57.200 pocket even as he's growing and developing and evolving as 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.319 a rusher, I know he can do that. He can 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.520 put his hands in chest and walk you back and 0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.720 take away the escape route as those dreshers get home. 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.439 So that'd be another one I think that would would 0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:08.359 make a lot of sense there. 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:10.560 Thanks. 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:17.440 Next question is from Tim Bilick of Cleveland dot Com. 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.120 Daniel, thanks again for doing this. It's kind of a 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.600 quick two part when it comes to the quarterbacks. Obviously 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.480 this isn't as strong a QB class as twenty twenty four, 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.279 likely not to get more than two or maybe three 0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:31.040 qbs in there. I guess Part one is how would 0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:34.560 cam Warden should Ur Sanders fit if you stack them 0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.640 compared to last year's guys as far as the top six? 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:39.480 And then if you're a team like the Browns a 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:40.520 number two, how much. 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:44.800 Does the idea of taking the idea of seiling variants 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.200 like cam over the higher ceiling shoulder with a lower 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:49.960 higher floor. How much do you think that should weigh 0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.560 into a decision if you're a team like the Titans 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:54.040 or the Browns of the Giants and say you have 0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:55.360 a choice between both guys. 0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:58.799 Yeah, I mean that's the age old debate, right you know, 0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.960 do you want you want safe and floor or do 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.319 you want you know, kind of exciting and upside. I 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.600 always feel like again for the same reasons I've mentioned 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.799 referenced earlier, it's just that the high level of quarterback play, 0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:14.359 particularly in the AFC right now, I just man, it's 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:18.360 hard to it's hard to you know, go with the 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.640 floor instead of the ceiling there and know, hey, if 0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.560 we go with the ceiling, and you know, we can 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:26.160 hopefully have enough a rope to come around and try 0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:27.680 and go get another one at some point in time. 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:31.040 I mean, nothing's guaranteed, but that's my I always tend 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.040 to be a little bit more. Let's chase the upside 0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:36.160 a little bit when we're up there. So that's the 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.319 direction I would go. When you look at this group 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.480 compared to last year. I just pull up my list 0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:46.320 from last year. I had him. I had cam Ward 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:51.640 with the same grade as bow Nicks, so that would 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.319 put him behind those top four for me, so he'd be, 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:57.319 you know, kind of in that fifth fifth range. And 0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:01.960 Michael Pennix. I had just slightly a head of Shador, 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:06.359 So Shador would be behind those guys, behind Caleb Drake, 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:10.839 Jaden McCarthy, Nix, Pennix. Then I would have shaudor right 0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:14.400 behind that group. Thanks a bunch. 0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:21.239 Next question is from Ryan Mink of Baltimore Ravens dot com. 0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:22.560 Yeah, thanks for doing this, DJ. 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.840 Just curious, how do you see the cornerbacks and safety classes. 0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:29.960 I know last year had a ton of depth at 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.960 corner especially a lot of guys went high. How do 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.000 you see that at the front end of that group, 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.200 and then the depth there, can the Ravens find a 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.000 plug and play starter if they don't bring Brandon Stevens back. 0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:43.200 And then similarly at safety, you know the Ravens are 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.120 kind of looking for a potential starter there or at 0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:46.280 least the third safety. 0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:48.799 Yeah, I think it's a little deeper at corner than 0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:53.040 safety this year. And if we're you know, looking at 0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:56.439 the Ravens, if we look where they're picking on day two, 0:51:56.520 --> 0:52:01.520 like fifty nine, ninety one, fifty nine, I look at 0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.200 somebody like Trey Amos from Old miss That would be 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.440 someone I think would be a really interesting fit for them. 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.879 Perish from from Kansas State, who you know, I think 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.640 could play inside, can play outside. Those are some intriguing players. 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:18.680 Quincy Riley from Louisville would be in that like third 0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:22.840 round Range is a good one who who kind of 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:24.440 plays with a little bit of that edge that they 0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:26.680 like there in Baltimore. So those are some of the 0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:30.200 corners when you look at the safety group, second round 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:33.560 safeties that I know at late first round, by the way, 0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:36.759 South Carolina's Nick Amblin Warrey. If he was there, I 0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:38.640 would I would turn the card in. I think he'd 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:41.040 be a fun player for them to play with. Just 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.920 he's big, he's physical, plays more near the line of scrimmage. 0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.279 He's he makes a lot of plays buzzing underneath the ball, 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.799 and he's a physical, firm tackler, and you know, he's 0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.319 an aggressive, aggressive dude. I would be excited about that 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:56.440 at the end of the first round and then when 0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.239 you start getting into the second, third round at the 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.640 safety position, and I really like Jalen Reid from Penn 0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:06.680 State who's two hundred and twelve pounds and can run it. 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:10.240 Just plays plays really really well timing and versus a blitzer, 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:14.719 he can play the ball. Third round wise Ransom from 0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:20.440 Ohio State, Makubum from Texas, Billy Bowman from Oklahoma. So 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:22.759 those are some of the names of those guys. But 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.560 I would say in terms of the depth of it, 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.520 I feel I feel like you're getting a little bit 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:29.080 longer group there at the corner group. 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:30.799 Thanks DJ. 0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:39.120 Next question is from Bill Huber of on SidJ. 0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:40.560 How you doing doing great? 0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:41.359 Good Air. 0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.080 I appreciate your time on this. You probably heard Josh 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.080 Jacobs at the Super Bowl. Talking about the Packers need 0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:49.000 a number one receiver, I'm not sure, not sure that 0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:52.360 guys available and free agency, they don't pick receivers in 0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.800 the first and you kind of hit on those guys anyway. 0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.120 But Green Bay has had a sweet spot in the 0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.799 second round at receiver of kind of who do you 0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:01.400 like there, and whether it's earlier or late, who do 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.080 you like is a kind of a big play guy 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:05.720 with some John Gaska, but a guy who can actually 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.600 play with some big playability. 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.239 Sure, I think somebody's mic is opened, by the way. 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.759 So when we when we look at the green Bay Packers, 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:19.439 you know, first of all, with where they're picking, pull 0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.080 their number up here, they are picking fifty four. So 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:26.320 at fifty four, you're looking for a big play wide receiver. 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:30.440 You know, Trey Harris is a good all around receiver 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.319 out of Old Miss. I think that's about the range 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.200 where you're going to see this clump here with Trey 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:39.399 Harris from Old Miss, Jaden Higgins from Iowa State, Jack 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:43.280 Besh from TCU. All those guys are big. Trey Harris 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:46.440 is almost six to two, Higgins is almost six ' four, 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.959 Jack Beck's you know, six to one and a quarter 0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.879 two hundred and fourteen pounds. Those guys are all kind 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.320 of in that in that range of the draft. Tory 0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.440 Horton is another one from Colorado of state who's going 0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:01.720 to be around that range. All those guys are big, 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:03.799 All those guys can make plays down the field. All 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.279 those guys are going to work out well in the 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:09.160 red zone. They're going to be point producers. So that's 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.839 a good clump there of wide outs that I think 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.799 would make some sense if they wanted to go with 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:19.560 a little more of the compact explosive player in that mix, 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:23.440 which I think they they already possess. But to me, 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:26.240 you look at at Jalen Ole from from Iowa State, 0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:28.200 who's going to put on a show with the combine 0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:33.080 he's he is really really explosive, and he can play inside. 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:35.640 I think even as an undersized player, he could play outside. 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:39.479 And then Jalen Royals from Utah State, who's who's got, 0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:43.400 you know, a real compact two and ten pounds actually 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.200 kind of looks like Randall Cobb to kind of go 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.279 back in the old school there. But there's there's a 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.600 there's a good clump of receivers there in that second 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.120 round range. And as you mentioned, they've done a great 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:54.840 job of identifying those guys. 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:57.120 Thanks appreciate it. 0:55:57.280 --> 0:55:57.560 Sure. 0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:02.640 Next question is from James Crapa of The Oregon. 0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:07.280 J What in your perspective on three of Oregon's guys 0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:12.040 starting with Connerly and Harmon and Birch? And I know 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.319 you've mocked Connorley into the first, but where Harmon and 0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.759 Birch fall in your projection so far? 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.960 Sure, I actually have Harmon even over him on my 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:25.839 list personally, but he's Harmon's just really disruptive. He's got 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.880 quick hands. He just lives under the side of the 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:33.560 line of scrimmage. He's really instinctive, he's aware, he knows 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.959 where blocks are coming from, and he gets he gets 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.160 up the field. So he's he's a fun, fun player. 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:40.879 I want to see him use power a little bit more. 0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.520 He flashes it, it's all in there. But I'd love 0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:45.480 to see him play into his power a little bit more. 0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:48.680 But I think he's bottom one, top of two type. 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:53.239 Pick Connery. He's just you know, he's got that you know, 0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:57.520 sturdy frame, long arms, he's real patient, he's got quick feet. 0:56:58.040 --> 0:56:59.640 The issue with him is just going to be he's 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:02.799 not a great bender, and that's how you can kind 0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:04.799 of get caught like he did. And the clip that 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:07.000 got sent around from Mike Green at the Senior Bowl, 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.000 so that's gonna be something he's gonna have to continue 0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:12.000 to work through. It's just it's just getting a little 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:15.160 bit lower, bending a little bit better. And then similarly 0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:17.000 to Banks, as I was talking about earlier, just a 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.480 little more strain and finish in the run game. But 0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:21.960 you know, the greade I gave him puts him kind 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:25.320 of bottom one, top of two in that range. And 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:28.280 then Birch was the other one who's an interesting player 0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.200 to watch just because he's so big, but he's kind 0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:34.160 of more of a finesse player than a real physical player. 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:37.880 No real violent guy, but he's nifty, he's got you know, 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.320 plays with that long arm move. He's got a real 0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.840 steady bull rush, not real you know, dynamic, twitchy, explosive, 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:46.760 but he can hold up with his length at the 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:48.840 point of attack, and he does play really hard to 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.000 close and chase plays from the backside. I thought he 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:56.080 was more kind of you know, bottom two to middle three. 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:58.520 That's where I had him on my list. 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:03.919 Thank next question is from Jerry McDonald of the San 0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:05.920 Jose Mercury News. 0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:15.760 Okay, Daniel, to borrow you from your analogy, the forty 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:18.920 nine ers have accumulated a lot of toys over the year, 0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:20.920 and they may need a visit to the hardware store 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.160 in terms of in terms of offensive defensive lines. I'm 0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:26.880 curious what you're what you're thinking they might do at 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.040 eleven and who's available to them in those areas. 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:32.760 Yeah, where they're picking at eleven, they're gonna be able 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:35.880 to get a really good player. And I'm curious. The 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.080 one thing, you know, we talked about him as one 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:40.920 of the top players in draft with Mason Graham. You know, 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.800 I'll be curious to see how he goes through the spring. 0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.360 As I mentioned, I think his tape is so good, 0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:48.560 but I'm not sure he's gonna, you know, totally ace 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.280 the spring part of it. If you're looking for someone 0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:53.040 I think would just be a home run pick for him. 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:55.120 What's the dream scenario to me? It would be Mason 0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.520 Graham where to fall down to him, where they could, 0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:00.439 you know, scoop him up and pick him up. But 0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:04.959 where they're picking, We've talked about Walker from Georgia. That's 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.600 probably a good chance that he's gone at that point 0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:12.280 in time. Some you know, Williams is the other one. 0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:14.200 You know, it's kind of that same clump of players, 0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.800 that same group of players. The player who's a great 0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:19.040 scheme fit for them, which I think would be more 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:22.800 of a trade back than necessarily take him right there 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.000 at eleven, would be, you know, Walter Nolan, who's you know, 0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:29.080 they with their kind of jet front and they like 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:31.040 to play up the field, Chris Caserk. They want to 0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.520 really really get off the ball and penetrate and go, 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:37.480 and he's really really twitched up. So Walter Nolan to me, 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.000 would be someone if you maybe if you slid down 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.840 a little bit just to get a little bit more value, 0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:44.880 that would be a defensive tackle. But I think would 0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:46.680 be a really fun fit for that group. 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:47.440 Thank you. 0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.520 Yep, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:54.040 right back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting 0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:55.240 Combine conference call. 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:04.880 Next question is from Rayner Saban of the Detroit Free Press. 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:07.440 All right, Daniel, I just wanted to check in with 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:13.080 you regarding the Lions and their their history under Brad 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:15.200 Holmes and what you think the common thread is that 1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:18.200 kind of ties their draft picks and in light of that, 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.680 what kind of players in the range that they're picking at, 1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:26.800 you know, twenty nine is going to be the type 1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:29.640 of player that they'll be looking for in that range specifically. 1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:34.480 Well, I think they've he's been really intentional about how 1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:38.120 they've built their team. They've just found. First of all, 1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:40.880 they started with, you know, building it through the foundation 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:44.280 with the offense and defensive line and finding guys with 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:49.040 excellent play temperament, guys that are they are finishers, that 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:51.720 play with effort and are physical. I think that was 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.000 kind of the first part of the build, and then 1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:57.440 after that they went hunting for as many dynamic players 1:00:57.440 --> 1:01:00.480 as they can find. And what Jamir Gibs, Jameson Williams, 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:03.560 the you know, the juice that they brought to that offense. 1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:07.200 You know, even Laporta you know, plays really really fast 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:09.880 as a tight end. It just feels like they've combined 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:13.280 the physical and the fast really really well. And I 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:15.960 think the way that they built it out was really really, 1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:19.680 really really smart. So I think now with where they are, 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:22.640 I think it's you know that they've got some of 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:25.320 these young skill guys at these core positions, these core 1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:28.440 skill positions, and you've got Zeitler as a free agent. 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:30.600 I think you could look at them, you know, kind 1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.160 of going back and kind of going the full circle here, 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:35.560 start big, go fast. I think you can come back 1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:38.280 around and then go back to the line of scrimmage 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:41.200 again if they can't get Zeitler signed. I've mentioned Zabel 1:01:41.280 --> 1:01:43.520 for them as as someone I think is plug and play. 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:47.720 Donovan Jackson from Ohio State is another one who I 1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:50.680 think is plug and play. So those are those are 1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:53.040 kind of more you know, meat and potatoes guys, but 1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:56.320 they're in really good. They're really good. Thank you. 1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:58.680 As a reminder, make sure your line is muted until 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:02.840 you're called on. Next question is from Aaron Wilson of 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:10.880 kp RC in Houston. Okay, we're gonna move on to 1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:14.040 Andrew Mason of one oh four point three in Denver. 1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:19.440 Hey, DJ, I want to ask you about mocking Colston 1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:23.040 Lovelin to the Broncos at twenty, Like, what do you 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:27.640 like about him as a potential fit and also kind 1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:30.720 of a follow on that pick you talked about how 1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:35.480 special Ashton Geny was and if he's there at twenty, 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:38.800 do you see the Broncos passing on him even with 1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:39.920 his skill set. 1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:44.920 Well, push comes to shove. Yeah, first of all, I 1:02:45.080 --> 1:02:47.280 think I would just be shocked if Genty did get there. 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:49.480 I was kind of playing around with some different scenario 1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:52.240 in that last mock draft. His tape is so good, 1:02:52.640 --> 1:02:56.240 the character's so good, all that stuff. Even if teams 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:57.760 are going to be patient on the running backs, I 1:02:57.760 --> 1:02:59.760 think once we get through it and get to the end, 1:02:59.760 --> 1:03:02.280 I think, you know, Gentill, he'll be off the board. 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:05.360 That would be an interesting conversation with those guys there. 1:03:05.720 --> 1:03:09.120 Genti's of my third overall player. Loveland's my seventh overall player. 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:12.840 So I think they both be you know, home run picks. 1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:15.400 You know, I think you go Genty over Loveland just 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:19.400 based off the off that for me, and that's a situation. 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:23.000 But Loveland, when I think about jokers and chess pieces 1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:27.040 and mismatch players, he'd be a fun He'd be a 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:29.640 fun one in that offense. And to grow. I like 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:32.760 the idea of having a young quarterback and bow Nicks 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:34.600 having a chance to grow and play with the same 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:37.880 tight end for a long period of time. And you know, 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:40.520 I think there's as we've seen with Mahomes and Kelsey. 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:44.120 That's a that's a chemistry thing with those two positions connected. 1:03:45.040 --> 1:03:47.000 So I would love to see them get a premium 1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:49.840 tight end like that and let those guys grow together. 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:53.640 Because Lovelan is he's excellent, and again he's one of 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:55.040 the top ten players in the draft for me. 1:03:56.120 --> 1:03:59.480 Next question is from Jeff Bedoton of Forbes. 1:04:00.800 --> 1:04:02.440 Daniel, thanks so much for doing this. 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:06.080 I had a question about the Canadian quarterback who kind 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:08.480 of wowed everybody of the senior ball. Is he a 1:04:08.520 --> 1:04:10.680 guy that's going to get drafted and if so, where 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:12.800 is he more of like a priority free agent? 1:04:13.880 --> 1:04:17.280 So everybody that I've talked to around the NFL, I 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:19.240 still haven't gotten my hands on his tape yet. So 1:04:19.320 --> 1:04:21.320 that's been a tricky one just to try and locate 1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:25.120 the tape. So I'm one of my things I'm efforting 1:04:25.160 --> 1:04:27.280 to do is to to find my way to that tape. 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:29.720 But there was there was a lot of excitement just 1:04:29.760 --> 1:04:31.160 the way the ball came out of his hand, and 1:04:31.200 --> 1:04:33.960 it was still more of a late round, you know, 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:37.960 priority free agent situation, but he's got some size and 1:04:38.240 --> 1:04:40.480 just in the brief exposure I had to him watching 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:43.520 him there. I think you have something to work with. 1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:46.680 So I'm anxious to see the tape. I'm acious not 1:04:46.760 --> 1:04:48.400 just to see the tape to see him, but to 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:51.680 see the style and the quality of play you know 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:54.160 up there. I'm looking forward to seeing that. So I'm 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:55.120 on the hunt. 1:04:56.200 --> 1:04:59.840 Next question is from Anthony Cosenza of s B Nation. 1:05:01.880 --> 1:05:04.920 Hey, Daniel, thanks for the time today. Have a question 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.439 for you. As the Bengals are sitting in the middle 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:09.080 of the first round, a lot of people are talking 1:05:09.120 --> 1:05:12.800 about Walter Nolan if he's there for interior defensive line help. 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:16.520 You mentioned earlier in the press conference call here that 1:05:17.440 --> 1:05:20.880 there's some good interior offensive line prospects later in the draft. 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:25.880 Can the same be said about other interior defensive line prospects. 1:05:25.880 --> 1:05:29.880 If the Bengals decide to forego those type of spots 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:33.160 within the first two rounds and they maybe wait till 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:35.200 late night too early day three. 1:05:36.120 --> 1:05:39.000 Yeah, I'm gonna pull up their pick here. So if 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:40.840 we just want to go to pick eighty one for 1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:44.680 Cincinnati and you want a defensive tackle with pick eighty one, 1:05:44.800 --> 1:05:46.520 I mean, this is the draft to do it. There 1:05:46.640 --> 1:05:49.760 is a ton of them, so you know you've got 1:05:49.840 --> 1:05:53.760 Jamari Caldwell from Oregon. Kind of in that range. You've 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:58.560 got Ty Hamilton, Ohio State. You've got Omar Norman Lot 1:05:58.560 --> 1:06:04.280 from Tennessee, Jordan Phillips from Maryland. There's there's a lot 1:06:04.360 --> 1:06:07.240 of defensive tackles. I posted this the other day, but 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:10.520 in terms of guys with potential starter grade. So I'm 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:13.280 not saying you know they're locks, you know, stamp it, 1:06:13.320 --> 1:06:15.800 they're going to be starters. But with players with the 1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:18.880 potential to start at defensive tackle, last year I had 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:23.480 twelve uh and this year I had double, So it's 1:06:23.520 --> 1:06:26.400 it is as deep of a defensive tackle draft as 1:06:26.400 --> 1:06:29.520 I can as I can ever remember. So if they 1:06:29.560 --> 1:06:32.680 do decide to go another direction early, they're gonna have 1:06:32.720 --> 1:06:35.560 plenty options beyond that if you're if you're looking. One 1:06:35.600 --> 1:06:38.080 by the way that I'm one of my just favorite 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:41.960 players to study is a guest from from Old miss 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:45.320 who's three hundred and twenty three pounds. I have him 1:06:45.360 --> 1:06:47.760 kind of as a as a second round like bottom 1:06:47.760 --> 1:06:50.360 half of the bottom part of the second round. But 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:52.520 just if you want to have fun, just just pull 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:54.240 up like a YouTube. I'm sure they're out there on 1:06:54.320 --> 1:06:57.080 him and look at his his stuff. He does offensively 1:06:57.120 --> 1:06:58.400 at Old Miss. It's a lot of fun. 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:00.000 Thank you. 1:07:00.160 --> 1:07:03.440 Next question is from John McMullen of on s I. 1:07:03.920 --> 1:07:08.840 Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this. Last time the Eagles 1:07:09.320 --> 1:07:13.439 were thirty two was the Lamar Draft A is there 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:18.000 a quarterback that you think might fit there for teams 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:21.200 looking for that fifty year option? And then when they 1:07:21.240 --> 1:07:25.440 traded down they drafted Dallas Goddard and Zach Ertz Is 1:07:25.480 --> 1:07:28.440 a little bit younger, was a little bit younger than 1:07:28.520 --> 1:07:31.800 Dallas is now. Any tight ends and sort of that 1:07:31.920 --> 1:07:35.280 forty to fifty range that could project. 1:07:35.760 --> 1:07:39.959 Yeah, there's definitely tight ends. The three that I would 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:42.920 have in that mix. Mason Taylor from LSU would be 1:07:42.920 --> 1:07:48.800 a home run pick who's just a real steady, reliable, 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:52.920 dependable guy who jumped on the scene with the game 1:07:53.000 --> 1:07:56.120 winner against Bama his freshman year. He's obviously it's a 1:07:56.120 --> 1:08:00.320 football family with Jason Taylor there, but he's impressive, had 1:08:00.360 --> 1:08:02.760 a great Senior Bowl, So I don't know how far 1:08:02.760 --> 1:08:04.680 into the second round he would make it, but he's 1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:08.160 in that range. Elijah Royo from Miami another one who 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:10.520 had a great Senior Bowl week who can really really run. 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:13.080 And then Harold Fannon, who I mentioned a little bit 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:15.520 earlier from from Bowling Green. I think those would all 1:08:15.560 --> 1:08:18.040 be good guys to add along into that group. But 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:20.840 I do think Tallas Godder it's got a lot more uh, 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:22.680 he's got a lot more football left in him. In 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:27.040 terms of the quarterbacks, I haven't been able to find 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:30.880 that buzz out there for someone who would you know 1:08:31.400 --> 1:08:33.160 a quarterback that teams would really want to get into 1:08:33.160 --> 1:08:37.120 the bottom of one. Jackson dart Is uh is my 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:40.040 third guy. That would be the one I think I 1:08:40.080 --> 1:08:42.000 would keep an eye on and see if the buzz 1:08:42.040 --> 1:08:45.120 builds with him that that maybe that could uh, that 1:08:45.160 --> 1:08:47.639 buzz could build, But as of today, I would say 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:50.000 I don't necessarily see a team moving in there. 1:08:51.240 --> 1:08:54.639 Rank Steja yep next for want to fill up marsh 1:08:54.680 --> 1:08:55.479 with huddle UK. 1:08:58.439 --> 1:09:00.439 All right, Daddy, thanks for your telling today. 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:02.920 The interest in the NFL over here in the UK 1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:06.120 is growing at a huge rate, and particularly the off 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:08.800 season interest now is going with each past some year 1:09:09.240 --> 1:09:12.160 with a focus on the combine next week. What drills 1:09:12.200 --> 1:09:16.120 for specific positions would you advise a first time combine 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:18.920 watcher really pay attention to and are there any sort 1:09:18.920 --> 1:09:21.439 of non measurables when you're scouting these prospects that you 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:23.280 really pay attention to instead of the numbers. 1:09:24.479 --> 1:09:26.920 Well, that's that's great. I'm glad there's a there's more 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:29.080 interest building here with this event. It's it's a lot 1:09:29.120 --> 1:09:30.599 of fun to watch. I would say, first of all, 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:34.200 if you're watching it for the first time, the most 1:09:34.400 --> 1:09:36.439 fun part of the combine is a you know, I 1:09:36.439 --> 1:09:38.000 think on the fan side of things is you want 1:09:38.040 --> 1:09:40.960 to watch guys run fast, so you know, the receivers 1:09:41.000 --> 1:09:43.519 and the dbs when they get a chance to run forties, 1:09:43.520 --> 1:09:45.920 it's just a me and rich Eisen have a blast 1:09:46.120 --> 1:09:47.640 because we got the best seat in the house and 1:09:47.680 --> 1:09:50.280 it's just still fun to watch guys that can absolutely fly. 1:09:51.360 --> 1:09:55.760 So that's that's something to watch their quarterback wise, you 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:57.240 just want to see how the ball comes out of 1:09:57.240 --> 1:09:59.559 their hand. You're not going to necessarily worry about, you know, 1:09:59.760 --> 1:10:02.680 all the ball placement things and you know, ding them 1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:04.600 on accuracy throwing the guys they're not used to, but 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:07.000 you can get a sense for just how they spend 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:08.679 the ball, how the ball comes out of their hand. 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:12.679 I think when you look at explosive positions in terms 1:10:12.680 --> 1:10:16.200 of like edge rushers. It's I always think it's it's 1:10:16.360 --> 1:10:18.720 important to see their jumps, like, see their verticals, see 1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:21.759 their broad just see how much explosiveness they can generate. 1:10:22.880 --> 1:10:24.599 Those are some of the things you look at there 1:10:24.880 --> 1:10:28.200 in terms of outside the numbers. Look, the team's going 1:10:28.280 --> 1:10:30.960 to get access to stuff we don't obviously, the medical 1:10:31.000 --> 1:10:33.280 information and the interviews that they have in the evenings. 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:36.000 But I always think there's value in if you're watching 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:38.640 these groups and you see, you know who ends up 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:40.800 kind of being the leaders in these groups. Who who 1:10:40.840 --> 1:10:42.800 do players navigate towards, Who do they want to be 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:46.439 around and talk to. I think there's I think there's 1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:49.719 information you can gather just by by watching these guys interact. 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:52.559 Thank you very much. 1:10:54.680 --> 1:10:57.799 Next question is from Jonas Schaeffer of the Baltimore Banner. 1:10:58.280 --> 1:10:58.639 Adj. 1:10:58.760 --> 1:11:02.400 Thanks for doing this. It's been interesting to see some 1:11:02.479 --> 1:11:04.840 of the best passing offenses in the NFL don't really 1:11:04.880 --> 1:11:08.840 have that prototypical X receiver. And obviously we've seen teams 1:11:08.880 --> 1:11:11.479 like Buffalo embrace someone like a MATC. Collins because of 1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:13.559 what he can do as a field stretcher, but also 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:16.640 with his blocking ability. I guess you know as that 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:20.200 position has kind of evolved. Have the traits that teams 1:11:20.200 --> 1:11:24.400 are looking for at that X position changed at all 1:11:25.040 --> 1:11:26.479 just with the the evolution of the game. 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:29.920 That's an interesting question. I haven't really thought about it. 1:11:31.720 --> 1:11:34.000 I still think the core principles are the same in 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:39.120 terms of you know, size, physicality, the ability to win 1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:41.000 on third down and in the red zone, you know, 1:11:41.640 --> 1:11:45.519 catch radius. I think a lot of those things are 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:48.080 have been the same for a long period of time. 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:52.720 You know, the blocking things interesting I've been you know, 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:54.880 I've been talking about this a little bit on the 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:57.880 defensive side of it because with corners, we used to say, 1:11:57.920 --> 1:12:00.120 when I started scouting in two thousand and three, we 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:04.599 would use the term cover corner a lot. And you know, hey, 1:12:04.600 --> 1:12:06.680 this guy doesn't really tackle, doesn't have any interest, but 1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:08.280 who cares, Like we're going to leave him out there 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:10.400 on the island and let him cover. And I think 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:14.599 we're seeing so many condensed formations now that it's become 1:12:14.640 --> 1:12:17.320 imperative that you can tackle as a corner because they're 1:12:17.320 --> 1:12:18.720 going to put you in run fits, They're going to 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:20.760 leave you alone block everybody else and make you be 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.679 the force player. But it's also done, is it's It's 1:12:23.880 --> 1:12:26.680 created a need and a desire to have wide receivers 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:28.800 that can do what the Rams have done, which is 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:32.160 get guys who can dig out linebackers and who can 1:12:32.200 --> 1:12:34.320 be physical presence in the run game there as well 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:37.040 from those tight splits. So, you know, I think all 1:12:37.040 --> 1:12:39.320 that stuff kind of you know, factors into a little 1:12:39.320 --> 1:12:41.479 bit of evolution and a little bit of change there. 1:12:41.840 --> 1:12:43.760 But I still think when I think of an X, 1:12:44.080 --> 1:12:46.200 I still think third down, red zone. I'd like to 1:12:46.200 --> 1:12:48.080 have somebody who can win one on one out there. 1:12:48.479 --> 1:12:48.800 Thank you. 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:49.479 Yep. 1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:53.280 Next question is from Mike payton a to Z Sports 1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:54.120 in Detroit. 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:55.200 Thanks. 1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:59.800 Thanks, Danielis this is great. I'm curious about it. The 1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:03.519 WANs are looking for somebody that generally is like a 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:06.439 Swiss army knife, has a lot of positional versatility, can 1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:08.519 do a lot of different things. Who do you see 1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:11.639 in this in this draft, whether it's on offense or defense, 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:14.519 that really sticks out kind of later in the in 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:17.559 the draft, you know, second round beyond that that just 1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:19.280 can do a bunch of different things. 1:13:20.360 --> 1:13:23.080 Well defensively I mentioned to guests of all the different 1:13:23.120 --> 1:13:25.840 things he can do. Uh, you know, he's someone who 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:28.160 on the defensive side of the ball is a defensive 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:30.519 tackle who every now and then will kick out and 1:13:30.600 --> 1:13:33.240 just be a big, massive edge rusher. But then on offense, 1:13:33.280 --> 1:13:36.840 he's a wildcat quarterback. He's an h back, he's a wing, 1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:40.559 he runs the ball, he's you know, that's that's one 1:13:40.560 --> 1:13:44.040 of the more fun versatile pieces in this year's draft 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:47.920 when I look at, you know, a weapon offensively, you know, 1:13:47.920 --> 1:13:49.799 if you're going to go down the line in the draft, 1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:52.080 I think there's a fun one in what he marks 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:54.479 out of USC as someone who can really catch the 1:13:54.520 --> 1:13:56.560 ball out of the backfield. He's got a ton of 1:13:56.600 --> 1:14:00.280 production going back to Mississippi State. He's some one that 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:02.640 I think can can can be a little bit of 1:14:02.640 --> 1:14:05.519 a mismatch player there with what he can do. So 1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:09.080 a couple of different things for him, trying to think 1:14:09.080 --> 1:14:11.120 of the other tight ends maybe that could do some 1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:14.360 other things well. The one of the one one of 1:14:14.400 --> 1:14:17.000 the guys that I'm so fascinated about in the draft. 1:14:17.000 --> 1:14:19.200 He's not going to the combine, which I was bummed about, 1:14:20.160 --> 1:14:25.160 but Willie Lampkin from from North Carolina, who's he's a wrestler. 1:14:25.520 --> 1:14:29.000 He's five ten and a half two hundred and seventy 1:14:29.000 --> 1:14:32.479 five pounds center who you just look at him on 1:14:32.520 --> 1:14:34.000 paper and then you maybe go out there and watch 1:14:34.040 --> 1:14:35.559 him warm up and you're like, there's no way this 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:38.640 guy can physically hold up. But he does. He just 1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:41.040 plays with leverage and strength and power. He's a good 1:14:41.040 --> 1:14:44.120 football player. Did not get invited to the combine. I 1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:46.720 was bummed because I wanted to see him work out 1:14:46.760 --> 1:14:49.000 as a as a tight end. I wouldn't mind seeing 1:14:49.040 --> 1:14:51.599 him work out as a defensive tackle. I wouldn't mind 1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:54.439 seeing him work out as a fullback. I do the 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:57.800 Charger games. I've seen Scott Mattlock was a D lineman's 1:14:58.320 --> 1:15:01.639 who's converted a fullback. I've seen card with the Ravens. 1:15:02.560 --> 1:15:05.559 So Willie Lampkin to me is, uh, that's a fun 1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:07.840 that's a fun toy to play with. I don't know 1:15:07.880 --> 1:15:09.400 exactly what his role is going to be at the 1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:11.120 next level, but he's a fun player. 1:15:11.360 --> 1:15:11.840 Thanks Kanny. 1:15:12.000 --> 1:15:14.200 I actually missed the name of the first guy you said. 1:15:14.479 --> 1:15:18.160 If you could say, oh gosh, wasn't what he marks? 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:18.720 Was it? 1:15:19.080 --> 1:15:19.160 No? 1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:21.599 It was the defense guy who could Oh yeah, JJ 1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:25.400 Piguetz from from Ole, Miss Great. Thank you, sure. 1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:28.719 Next question is from Chris Bumbaka of USA Today. 1:15:29.040 --> 1:15:29.759 What's up, Daniel. 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:31.519 Thanks for doing this. I hope you're doing well. 1:15:33.160 --> 1:15:35.880 Cam Skataboo is obviously a guy who had a big 1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:39.559 coming out party in the college Football Playoff and had 1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:41.960 a great season. But what does he need to do 1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:44.960 over you know, at the combine and maybe had his 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:47.040 pro date depending on if he works out to keep 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:48.160 rising up draft boards. 1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:52.759 In your opinion, well, he's uh, he's a unique player, 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:56.559 like just when you watch him. Obviously the incredible run 1:15:56.600 --> 1:16:00.360 that he went on, but yeah, I would was looking 1:16:00.360 --> 1:16:02.280 at my notes on him when I was putting this 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:05.840 stuff in last night from my notebook, and I said, this, 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:08.439 he just chooses violence, like I don't know if I've 1:16:08.439 --> 1:16:11.519 ever seen a more aggressive runner who just seeks out 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:15.840 contact and who can absorb contact. When I was looking 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:18.559 for a comp for him, my first thought was, Okay, 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:20.920 he's like kind of like a shrunk down James Connor, 1:16:21.400 --> 1:16:23.320 and I was like, gosh, more than anything else, he 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:25.800 just reminds me of a plink Ot chip from from 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:28.360 The Price is Right of just like bouncing off everything 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:31.840 and everybody. But you know the thing with him is, 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:33.360 you know we know we can catch it. We know 1:16:33.680 --> 1:16:37.080 obviously the vision, the balance, the toughness. The only questions 1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:39.080 is going to be the top speed, So you know, 1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:42.720 if he has a chance, you know, I think to me, 1:16:42.880 --> 1:16:44.400 he looked like he probably be a low four to 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:46.799 six guy if he if he were running the four fives, 1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:49.920 that would be great, that would really help himself out. 1:16:49.920 --> 1:16:52.200 But he's a y. She is such a fun player 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:54.080 to watch and whoever gets him is going to have 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:58.720 one of the most aggressive and physical runners that we've 1:16:58.760 --> 1:17:00.800 seen the last few years. So he's a fun one. 1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:04.920 Next question is from Dave Naylor of TSN. 1:17:06.600 --> 1:17:10.679 Daniel a couple of Canadian players in attendance at the combine. 1:17:10.680 --> 1:17:13.040 I know Curtis works not going to work out, but 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:16.120 I understand he'll be there. And Alec I'm onar from 1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:18.439 the receiver from Stanford, if you could kind of give 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:20.639 us your take on both those players at this point 1:17:20.640 --> 1:17:23.639 and obviously understanding the rourkesa comes with the injury. 1:17:24.120 --> 1:17:26.519 Yeah, no, for sure. Well, I mean the first time 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:32.400 I noticed Stanford receiver when I'm watching Colorado last year 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:35.960 and holy moly, he had monster game there. That was 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:37.720 when he kind of jumped on my scene a little bit, 1:17:37.760 --> 1:17:40.160 and he had two hundred ninety plus yards in that game, 1:17:40.840 --> 1:17:42.639 a good bit of it on Travis Hunter, my dad. 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:44.679 So he was that's when he jumped on my radar, 1:17:44.760 --> 1:17:49.200 but outside big time burst in his release. I thought 1:17:49.200 --> 1:17:51.120 he was better on the move. I keep him on 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:53.960 the go. He's a little bit sticky at the top 1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:58.160 of routes working back downhill, but I thought he's he's 1:17:58.160 --> 1:18:00.559 someone who runs through the ball, which I which I 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:02.080 like to see if talked about that a little bit, 1:18:02.120 --> 1:18:05.120 being kind of grounded through the catch. The issue with 1:18:05.200 --> 1:18:07.240 him just kind of contact drops, like you just want 1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:10.320 to see when he gets kind of those combat catch opportunities, 1:18:10.360 --> 1:18:13.439 just being a little stronger and finishing on those. But 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:15.240 I think he's going to run really well. He's got 1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:18.960 excellent size, So I'm excited to see him once we 1:18:19.000 --> 1:18:21.960 get to once we get to Indianapolis, and then with Rourke, 1:18:22.080 --> 1:18:24.840 you know, I mean, gosh, and I guess that's not 1:18:24.920 --> 1:18:29.200 a surprise in Canada with the hockey Hockey Nation, the 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:31.560 toughness and all that stuff, like this dude playing the 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:35.280 whole season with and torn acl is pretty incredible. A 1:18:35.320 --> 1:18:38.719 little bit older at twenty four years old, but someone 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:41.040 who's good in the RPO game. He's got a good 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:44.639 pocket feel, he's quick through progressions. I like the fact 1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:47.439 he's got a nice like quiet deliveries, not real, you know, 1:18:47.560 --> 1:18:49.960 violent or aggressive as a throw. He's just very poised. 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:52.360 You know, the question is going to be, you know, 1:18:52.400 --> 1:18:55.080 how much real pop does he have? How much arm 1:18:55.120 --> 1:18:57.559 strength does he does he have there? But I love 1:18:57.600 --> 1:19:00.360 the size, you know, obviously, the toughness speaks for itself. 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:02.120 Where do you see Alec. 1:19:01.960 --> 1:19:02.679 Playing in the NFL? 1:19:02.720 --> 1:19:03.800 Where do you see him lining up? 1:19:04.360 --> 1:19:06.479 Well, I think he'll be outside. I think he'll be 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:09.120 an ex receiver. I think that's where's he's best suited. 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:09.800 Thank you. 1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:12.840 All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right 1:19:12.880 --> 1:19:16.519 back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting Combine 1:19:16.520 --> 1:19:17.200 conference call. 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:26.200 Next question is from Jared Feinberg of Panthers Wire. 1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:29.840 Hey, Daniel, so you had Jalen Walker as one of 1:19:29.920 --> 1:19:34.040 your top ten prospects on your big board going into 1:19:34.200 --> 1:19:35.600 next week's combine. 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:37.439 Do you believe he. 1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:40.800 Should be more of a pure edge rusher or does 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:44.960 he fit more of what Andrew Van Geikeel and Frankie 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:50.760 Louvi does play wise, those are interesting comps. I think 1:19:50.800 --> 1:19:54.600 he can play in that role. To me, I just 1:19:54.640 --> 1:19:57.120 think I think you can. I think you can do 1:19:57.160 --> 1:19:58.519 so many different things, and I don't, you know, I 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:00.240 think some things are going to say why I'm not 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:01.680 going to just put him in one spot. I'm going 1:20:01.720 --> 1:20:03.160 to let him do a bunch of different things as 1:20:03.200 --> 1:20:06.599 those teams do with those guys. So that's that's real. 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:08.600 I think that's a possibility. I just would love to 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:10.760 see given the opportunity to just be a full time 1:20:10.840 --> 1:20:13.200 rusher off the edge. I know he's not, you know, 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:16.800 six foot five, you know, ideal frame out there, I 1:20:16.800 --> 1:20:19.559 think he's going to be a nightmare to block if 1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:21.600 you just cut him loose and let him rush like that. 1:20:21.840 --> 1:20:24.720 So that's what I would do. Everything's going to be 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:27.080 dependent on what scheme you're in and who your defensive 1:20:27.080 --> 1:20:30.400 coordinator is. But I think this guy's double digit sacks 1:20:30.439 --> 1:20:33.880 off the edge, and I don't think his you know, 1:20:34.000 --> 1:20:36.920 lack of that ideal size is an issue at all 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:40.120 against a run. He's so strong and stout, I think 1:20:40.160 --> 1:20:42.280 he'd be I think he'd be hell on wheels out there. 1:20:42.320 --> 1:20:44.639 So that's what I would do with him. But again, 1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:47.559 if you have a defense that wants to deploy guys differently, 1:20:48.080 --> 1:20:50.519 I don't know that there's a whole lot he can't do. 1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:51.880 Thank you, Daniel Ye. 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:56.120 Next question is from Rishi Sharma of td Labs. 1:20:56.560 --> 1:20:58.599 Hey there, Daniel, thanks so much for taking my question. 1:20:58.800 --> 1:21:01.160 I'm a small content creator for Canada trying to get 1:21:01.400 --> 1:21:03.679 draft news to more Canadians. I got a too harder 1:21:03.720 --> 1:21:07.879 here really. The first one is I've done some research 1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:10.720 and I haven't seen Tyler. I've seen Tyler Warren ranked 1:21:10.760 --> 1:21:13.599 top five and Loveland ranked top seven in your top 1:21:13.600 --> 1:21:16.600 one hundred. Haven't seen tight Ends since probably Bowers in 1:21:16.640 --> 1:21:20.040 twenty twenty four and Pitts from twenty twenty one ranked 1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:24.120 that high. What do you say about Tyler Warren? That's 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:27.000 his X factor? And is Rob Gronkowski a little bit 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:29.200 of a far off player comp in terms of what 1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:31.120 he can be if he used to hit his ceiling? 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:33.719 And the second part is here this is a Dallas 1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:38.240 Cowboys focus question. You have genty mock to the Cowboys, 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:41.640 And now my concern is the amount of touches. Is 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:44.160 this something you look at when you look at your valuations. 1:21:44.240 --> 1:21:47.240 He has around seven hundred and fifty and someone like 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:49.519 Gibbs is coming into the league with four hundred. I'm 1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:51.640 a little bit concerned with drafting it back like that 1:21:51.760 --> 1:21:54.040 after I've seen what happened to Ezekiel Elliott after a 1:21:54.040 --> 1:21:55.880 couple of years of being in the NFL. 1:21:56.479 --> 1:21:59.840 Sure, good questions. I'll start with the tight end stuff. 1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:05.040 Look this draft at the very very top. I mean, 1:22:05.280 --> 1:22:08.360 I've got Abdil Carter, Travis Hunter up there, but it's 1:22:08.400 --> 1:22:13.000 not a draft where you have, you know, ten like 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:15.040 I had a higher grade on brock Bowers. Is what 1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:16.800 I will just cut to the chase there than than 1:22:16.840 --> 1:22:19.040 I did on these tight ends. I really like both 1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:21.439 of them, though we don't have quite the same top 1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:25.160 end depth that we've had in years past. But Tyler 1:22:25.200 --> 1:22:29.120 Warren is my fifth overall player because his mixture of 1:22:29.360 --> 1:22:35.360 just size, physicality. He's uh, he just walls guys off. 1:22:35.479 --> 1:22:39.439 He looks like a billboard rolling down the seam. He's enormous. 1:22:40.080 --> 1:22:43.240 He's got a huge catch radius. He he is so 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:45.360 physical and tough with the ball in his hands after 1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:47.800 the catch. They use him, you know, on the wildcat stuff, 1:22:47.800 --> 1:22:49.559 and use him as a runner and do those different 1:22:49.600 --> 1:22:52.400 things because he's just he's a really hard guy to 1:22:52.439 --> 1:22:55.960 get on the ground. You know, there are I look 1:22:56.000 --> 1:22:58.320 at tight ends and you know you kind of look 1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:00.439 at the Gronk tree and the Kelsey tree, like if 1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:03.479 you're stylistically the difference between those two guys. I think 1:23:03.520 --> 1:23:06.080 it's well represented in this draft where you've got Tyler Warren, 1:23:06.120 --> 1:23:08.800 who represents more of the Gronk type, who's going to 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:13.120 be better on the move, you know, crossers, seams, get 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:16.040 the ball in his hands, make people tackle him, Whereas 1:23:16.040 --> 1:23:18.080 when you look at Lovelin, it's a little more Kelsey. 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:20.240 It's a little more you know, option routes, getting in 1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:24.000 and out of breaks, a little more fluid, and someone 1:23:24.000 --> 1:23:26.320 who can make you miss after the catch, but not 1:23:26.520 --> 1:23:29.760 you know, not quite as physical a player there as 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:32.880 you have there with Tyler Warren. So those are the 1:23:33.000 --> 1:23:34.880 two tight ends that I think, are you know, two 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:37.040 of the top seven players in this year's draft class 1:23:37.080 --> 1:23:40.400 with the Cowboys and genty Yeah, I mean, look, workload 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:44.240 is it's something that you look at. But I mean, 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:47.320 I don't know, I know, I know Ezekiel Elliott didn't 1:23:47.840 --> 1:23:49.720 you know, on the second contract, did not get the 1:23:49.760 --> 1:23:51.920 Cowboys what they wanted, But that's a that's a heck 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:55.360 of a run. I don't know how many how many 1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:58.120 teams would be disappointed with that type of impact if 1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:00.280 they were to get out of a draft pick. You know, 1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:03.280 to have that type of that type of elite player, 1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:04.880 even if it's for a handful of years, I think 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:08.559 would constitute a great pick. Thanks so much, Daniel Ye. 1:24:09.320 --> 1:24:12.599 Next question is from Eric Smith of Chargers dot Com. I, 1:24:12.640 --> 1:24:14.920 dij I think, thanks as always for doing this with 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:16.360 the Chargers at pick twenty two. 1:24:16.520 --> 1:24:19.880 How would you prioritize their needs heading into year two 1:24:20.000 --> 1:24:22.000 with Jim Harbor and Joe Ortiz. 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:27.200 Thanks man, Look, I look at the interior of the 1:24:27.200 --> 1:24:31.080 offensive line would be the top for me, and that's 1:24:31.320 --> 1:24:33.320 going to be, you know, something you can address with 1:24:33.360 --> 1:24:36.200 free agency and the draft, and I think getting more 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:40.759 weapons offensively, you know, get getting a you know, ideally 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:43.799 you get a big time tight end to go along 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:46.960 with some you know, some juice in the backfield at 1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:49.080 running back, someone that you can find with some real 1:24:49.160 --> 1:24:52.080 burst and then uh, you know, someone to add to 1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:55.120 the receiver room who's got some explosiveness. So you know, 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:58.200 I referenced the Lions a little bit earlier Eric about 1:24:58.439 --> 1:25:00.400 you know, doing the big things first and then go 1:25:00.439 --> 1:25:03.240 and get in the speed and the explosiveness. I still 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:04.720 think there's a little work to be done on the 1:25:04.720 --> 1:25:08.240 big side, and they've got defensive tackle situation. With free agency, 1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:10.920 you know, I'd love to see him bring back pun 1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:14.160 a Ford there. But you know, this draft is is 1:25:14.240 --> 1:25:16.600 matched up pretty well with their needs. And you know, 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:21.000 tiior defensive line, tiior offensive line, tight end, running back. 1:25:21.880 --> 1:25:23.919 I think those are all areas that can be addressed 1:25:23.920 --> 1:25:26.080 through free agency and through the draft. And I think 1:25:26.120 --> 1:25:28.439 where they're picking, you know, there's a chance you could 1:25:28.479 --> 1:25:31.160 be looking at Lovelin, which would be a great pick there. 1:25:31.640 --> 1:25:35.080 I love Omar and Hampton from North Carolina. If you 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:36.679 want to go with the running back, I think that's 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:38.960 a that's a great pick there, someone who could give 1:25:39.000 --> 1:25:41.880 them some some burst as well as the physicality all 1:25:42.000 --> 1:25:45.040 kind of wrapped up in one. So there's your tight end, 1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:48.559 there's your there's your running back, and then interior offensive line. 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:50.760 I don't think Booker gets there. That would be a 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:53.960 run the card up for me because I just think, man, 1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:57.120 you continue to invest in that interior offensive line. Uh, 1:25:57.200 --> 1:25:59.160 he'd be a he'd be a really good fit there 1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:02.559 with his size, physical reality, character, intelligence, all that stuff. 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:05.880 He's he's someone who checks every box. So I think 1:26:05.920 --> 1:26:07.800 they're gonna I think you have a really really good 1:26:07.840 --> 1:26:10.480 player there for him in one of those spots, and 1:26:10.479 --> 1:26:12.080 and I think that's up to them to figure out 1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:14.439 how in free agency to support compliment what they're going 1:26:14.520 --> 1:26:14.720 to do. 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:18.680 Next question is from Blaine Grissick of Turf Show Times. 1:26:19.520 --> 1:26:22.080 Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this. Just kind of look 1:26:22.080 --> 1:26:24.600 at at the back half of the first round. It 1:26:24.760 --> 1:26:26.400 kind of seems like that the area twenty to forty 1:26:26.439 --> 1:26:27.920 is a bit of a dead zone of purgatory a 1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:29.720 little bit. Do you see and as many a lot 1:26:29.720 --> 1:26:31.559 of teams maybe trying to maybe trying to trade back. 1:26:31.600 --> 1:26:34.200 You see enough team is trying to trade up where 1:26:34.200 --> 1:26:35.800 you can get out of that range, and they're just 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:37.800 kind of looking at jday Baron. I know you had 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:40.040 him ranked pretty highly. Do you think he kind of 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:42.080 gets maybe the Kuber Dejenie treatment where teams see him 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:43.720 as a nickel and he and we're sitting here in 1:26:44.040 --> 1:26:45.559 a year a year from now saying how did he 1:26:45.600 --> 1:26:47.599 how did he fall fall to like forty or something? 1:26:47.600 --> 1:26:50.439 Like that, Yeah, I've had this conversation with a team 1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:53.840 about this very subject because and I will say, I'm 1:26:53.880 --> 1:26:56.559 higher on Baron than just about every team I've talked to. 1:26:58.080 --> 1:27:00.960 I love the way that he plays. I just do. 1:27:01.080 --> 1:27:03.840 And I think that, uh, well, this is what I've 1:27:03.880 --> 1:27:05.920 said to teams. I'm like, look, you guys, blew it 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:09.040 on Branch. You guys, let Branch fall to the second round. 1:27:09.320 --> 1:27:12.479 The league, we the league collectively blew it on Cooper 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:14.920 Dejene let him fall to the second round. Is this 1:27:15.000 --> 1:27:15.840 gonna happen again? 1:27:15.960 --> 1:27:16.040 Like? 1:27:16.080 --> 1:27:19.160 Are we gonna let Baron fall? Because we're not going 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:20.880 to give credit to someone who's going to be on 1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:23.000 the field the whole game as someone who's going to 1:27:23.040 --> 1:27:25.000 be a nickel. We're going to play, you know, in 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.680 that different roles he can play. Can be your dime linebacker, 1:27:28.520 --> 1:27:32.080 be your nickel. I think he could survive outside if 1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:34.000 if you needed him to. That's not going to be 1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:37.479 where his specialty is. But somebody that may that it's 1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:41.559 a sure tackler that has instincts, that takes the football away. 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:45.120 That's an outstanding blitzer. And I look at the teams 1:27:45.200 --> 1:27:48.400 that are you know, in the playoffs and guys that 1:27:48.479 --> 1:27:50.719 can fill that role, can play that role for teams. 1:27:50.720 --> 1:27:52.400 I saw it, you know, I see it with Derwin 1:27:52.520 --> 1:27:55.160 James as someone who can play in that in that spot. 1:27:56.320 --> 1:27:59.320 You look at obviously Cooper Degene coming off of the 1:27:59.320 --> 1:28:02.880 Super Bowl there, the Chiefs with McDuffie had someone that 1:28:02.960 --> 1:28:04.920 you know, he's outside he played. He can be a 1:28:04.960 --> 1:28:07.240 difference maker in that role and has been in the past. 1:28:08.040 --> 1:28:11.160 The Ravens obviously, when you have the size and physicality 1:28:11.200 --> 1:28:12.880 they have that they can put down in there in 1:28:12.880 --> 1:28:16.519 that spot. I think there's value to it. I think 1:28:16.560 --> 1:28:20.519 he's a great player. I don't necessarily understand the uh, 1:28:20.960 --> 1:28:23.120 you know, the lack of value there for him around 1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:25.360 the league, But I guess we'll have to see what 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:27.840 shakes out there. And then what was the what was 1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:29.559 the other one about the options of being able to 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:31.280 trade back? Is that what you're saying, Yeah. 1:28:31.160 --> 1:28:32.880 He's about twenty or forty range kinds seems like a 1:28:32.920 --> 1:28:34.599 bit of a predatory, like are they gonna have teams 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:35.720 that maybe you want to trade up in that range 1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:37.679 where teams can have the option to trade back. 1:28:38.040 --> 1:28:39.720 The one thing I would keep an eye on is 1:28:39.800 --> 1:28:44.080 if you have some teams with tackle needs depending on 1:28:44.120 --> 1:28:46.439 what happens with the dependent what happens with the Ravens, 1:28:46.520 --> 1:28:48.400 you know, with Ronnie Stanley, they could be one that 1:28:48.400 --> 1:28:51.840 could potentially move up. The Chiefs, you know, depending on 1:28:51.880 --> 1:28:55.639 where their comfort level is with their their roster. Left 1:28:55.640 --> 1:28:58.240 tackle could be an area they could address. So I 1:28:58.479 --> 1:29:01.479 try and look at maybe Shall Pools and where there 1:29:01.479 --> 1:29:04.120 would be a need to move up. I would say, 1:29:04.160 --> 1:29:06.719 keep an eye on the offensive tackle market and maybe 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:07.880 that could drive some movement. 1:29:08.240 --> 1:29:11.040 Next question is from River Wells a Bucks game day. 1:29:11.320 --> 1:29:14.120 Hey there, Daniel, thanks for doing this. The Buccaneers have 1:29:14.160 --> 1:29:16.479 a lot of different needs. A lot of them are 1:29:16.479 --> 1:29:19.120 on defense at a lot of different levels. And Todd 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:21.400 Bowles likes to run covering three, a lot of different 1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:23.680 blitzer in different fronts and looks. When you look at 1:29:23.720 --> 1:29:25.400 some of these defensive players and kind of where the 1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:28.800 Bucks are going to draft at around nineteen, what do 1:29:28.800 --> 1:29:31.040 you think of some of the best fits for this 1:29:31.160 --> 1:29:33.040 sort of Todd Bowls defense? 1:29:34.120 --> 1:29:37.080 Well, aggressive guys that can blitz from anywhere. Look, John 1:29:37.160 --> 1:29:39.360 Campbell would be sure as heck fun to watch there, 1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:42.280 just with all the different things he can do and 1:29:43.200 --> 1:29:48.320 fast and explosive and smart. That's a good combination for 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:51.120 him for Coach Bowls to be able to play with there. 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:54.600 So that's the first game that just jumped off the 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:56.519 top of my head here when I'm thinking about those 1:29:56.560 --> 1:30:00.559 types of players. Williams from Georgia would be another one. 1:30:02.080 --> 1:30:03.640 Can you can do a lot of different things with 1:30:03.720 --> 1:30:06.040 him in terms of rushing him inside, rushing him outside. 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:08.680 He's athletic enough if you want to drop him, he 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:10.360 can do a lot of those things as well. So 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:12.600 those are a couple of names to me that that 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:16.519 just kind of jump out as pretty dynamic players that 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:19.320 are you know. I love it when you have pass 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:22.560 rushers that can win from different entry points, and I 1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:24.640 think those guys can both win from a variety of 1:30:24.760 --> 1:30:26.840 entry points. Thank you. 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:32.160 Next question is from Richard Silva of Detroit News and. 1:30:32.439 --> 1:30:33.439 You'll appreciate your time. 1:30:33.880 --> 1:30:36.160 I think the popular thought probably with the lines at 1:30:36.160 --> 1:30:37.639 twenty eight is edge rusher. 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:39.160 But if they do pass up on that, who are 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:42.000 some guys in range at sixty they think could be available? 1:30:42.800 --> 1:30:46.280 Yeah, sixty for edge rushers, you know, I kind of 1:30:46.320 --> 1:30:51.160 mentioned it. Uman Malayan from from Old miss is right 1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:54.880 in that range. I have I'm not quite as high 1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:57.519 on Nick scourt and as some other people are, so 1:30:57.600 --> 1:31:00.680 that that's his range for me. And again I like him. 1:31:00.720 --> 1:31:02.000 He's a good player, and you know, I just know 1:31:02.120 --> 1:31:03.559 a lot of people talk about him as a first 1:31:03.600 --> 1:31:06.160 round pick and and he very well could be. But 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:09.320 he's in that range for me. You've got you know, 1:31:09.439 --> 1:31:13.760 Kyle Kinard, You've got Twey Molole from Ohio State. It's 1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:15.839 a good group. There's a there's a lot of options 1:31:15.880 --> 1:31:18.439 there and uh and still you can get guys that 1:31:18.520 --> 1:31:22.080 can that can come in and start. I've talked about 1:31:22.080 --> 1:31:24.240 this detackle how deep it is. The edge group's pretty 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:24.880 deep as well. 1:31:25.160 --> 1:31:28.559 Next question is from Darien Hopkins of the Las Vegas Raiders. 1:31:28.560 --> 1:31:29.960 Talk how you doing, DJ? 1:31:30.000 --> 1:31:30.599 How you doing today? 1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:34.200 Sarry done great, Thanks for thanks for hopping on. Appreciate it. 1:31:34.760 --> 1:31:35.240 Quick question. 1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:36.880 I know there is a lot of uncertainty with the 1:31:36.960 --> 1:31:39.479 quarterback position for the Las Vegas Raiders. It has been 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:41.559 a lot of rumors of the Raiders moving up to 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:44.240 get a top quarterback. Now, if they don't decide to 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:47.439 get a trade up to get the top quarterback, what 1:31:47.479 --> 1:31:49.519 would be the option at number six for the Las 1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:51.800 Vegas Raiders and what positions would be the best fit 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:53.240 for that number six overall. 1:31:53.320 --> 1:31:56.640 Bit, Yeah, they could go on in several different directions. 1:31:57.520 --> 1:31:59.320 You know, you look at some of their needs. You know, 1:31:59.360 --> 1:32:03.360 obviously the core stands out, but corner, uh is an 1:32:03.400 --> 1:32:06.639 area depending on how you how comfortable they are with 1:32:06.640 --> 1:32:10.559 with Will Johnson. I'm a Baron Baron fan, but I 1:32:10.600 --> 1:32:12.680 haven't talked to teams that would be as comfortable all 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:14.280 the way up there at that point in time, I'd 1:32:14.280 --> 1:32:17.559 be a little early, So that that's one area you 1:32:17.600 --> 1:32:20.320 could look. I think they could just go though, you know, 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:24.800 kind of best available defensive player, you know, I don't 1:32:24.880 --> 1:32:27.519 think you can go wrong there. Walker is a fun one. 1:32:28.080 --> 1:32:31.600 We've talked a ton about him from Georgia. I know 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:34.840 Tom Brady is gonna know everything ins and outs about 1:32:34.920 --> 1:32:38.680 Mason Graham. Christian Wilkins and Mason Graham would be kind 1:32:38.680 --> 1:32:42.000 of a fun pairing with with Max on the outside. 1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:45.559 So there's, uh, there's different directions, different areas they could 1:32:45.640 --> 1:32:48.439 go there. But uh, you know, they've got to figure 1:32:48.479 --> 1:32:50.240 out the quarterback thing at some point in time via 1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:52.920 free agency or whether they're gonna do it right here 1:32:52.960 --> 1:32:54.760 at six or or whether they want to try and 1:32:54.760 --> 1:32:57.720 take a flyer on somebody, you know, outside the top 1:32:57.760 --> 1:32:59.840 of the draft. So I do I do have my 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:02.720 uh did have my antenna up because I have to 1:33:02.720 --> 1:33:05.559 go back and double check. But uh, I'm trying to 1:33:05.560 --> 1:33:09.639 remember if what Chip Kelly's connection was with Dylan Gabriel. 1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:12.479 Maybe is a down the line option for them at quarterback, 1:33:12.520 --> 1:33:15.120 but I'm pretty sure they're familiar with each other. Thank you, 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:16.040 Sarah yep. 1:33:16.680 --> 1:33:20.160 Next question is from Casey Kenneman of Orange and Brown Report. 1:33:20.960 --> 1:33:23.599 By all indications, the Browns are going to lean back 1:33:23.600 --> 1:33:26.559 into Kevin Stefanski's willhouse with the wide zone scheme and 1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:29.799 play action from under center elements. This is a terrific 1:33:29.880 --> 1:33:32.400 running back class, which running backs you see is the 1:33:32.400 --> 1:33:34.680 best fit for the wide zone and kind of give 1:33:34.680 --> 1:33:36.280 me some of the characteristics of each one. 1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:40.000 Sure, yeah, there's again I mentioned the depth of this 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:41.960 running back class. The first one that just popped right 1:33:42.000 --> 1:33:44.960 into my head was is is Caleb Johnson from Iowa 1:33:46.120 --> 1:33:49.200 someone who I just think is he's that one cut, 1:33:49.600 --> 1:33:52.120 you know, foot in the ground, speed and go, he's 1:33:52.160 --> 1:33:55.680 got he's got excellent vision. He's not going to be 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:57.840 a real you know like nifty in and out guy. 1:33:57.960 --> 1:33:59.720 He's just gonna see it and go and he's got 1:33:59.840 --> 1:34:03.479 he's got burst and he's got long speed. So that 1:34:03.520 --> 1:34:05.160 would be the first one that kind of popped into 1:34:05.200 --> 1:34:08.920 my mind. You know other ones. You know, Hampton obviously 1:34:08.920 --> 1:34:11.800 would fit into that as a big explosive guy. I 1:34:11.800 --> 1:34:15.800 think he's a little more loose than than Johnson, but 1:34:15.960 --> 1:34:20.280 that would would fit there as well. Gosh, there's Dylan Sampson, 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:22.240 not the biggest guy in the world, a little bit 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:27.040 undersized out of Tennessee, but uh, you know he's he's again. 1:34:27.080 --> 1:34:28.920 He can get to the he can get to the perimeter, 1:34:29.000 --> 1:34:31.639 get get north and south and go. He's got big time, 1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:34.040 big time burst. I don't think he's gonna time as 1:34:34.080 --> 1:34:37.479 fast as he plays. He plays plenty fast. Those are 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:39.280 some guys that that kind of jump out to me. 1:34:39.439 --> 1:34:41.280 But I mean the too Ohio State guys can play 1:34:41.280 --> 1:34:45.600 in any scheme. With Judkins and Henderson, and with with 1:34:45.680 --> 1:34:49.120 those two individually, Judkins is like a he's a finisher. 1:34:49.240 --> 1:34:50.880 Like you watch the end of the Penn State game, 1:34:51.479 --> 1:34:53.519 he's their four minute back and he just salts the 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:58.559 game away. He's got balance, strength, power, passing, game wise 1:34:58.680 --> 1:35:02.560 more screens, checked down type, whereas Henderson is one of 1:35:02.600 --> 1:35:05.920 the best pass protecting backs that I've evaluated. He is 1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:09.280 exceptional in that regard. And then he can run routes, 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:11.280 he can pluck it, and he can hit home runs 1:35:11.280 --> 1:35:14.040 out of the backfield. He's not quite as good of 1:35:14.040 --> 1:35:18.160 a dirty runner inside as as Judkins is, but definitely 1:35:18.200 --> 1:35:21.080 a home run hitter who in that in that system Again, 1:35:21.200 --> 1:35:23.560 stretch and then and then get up the field and 1:35:23.640 --> 1:35:25.360 use your speed and then be a factor in the 1:35:25.360 --> 1:35:29.599 passing game. Traveon Henderson is is outstanding. So I mean, 1:35:29.760 --> 1:35:32.040 and I go on, there's there's a bunch of backs 1:35:32.800 --> 1:35:37.519 third third round type probably third fourth round for someone 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:39.280 like Trevor e Tn is another one that I like. 1:35:39.400 --> 1:35:43.439 So again, it's a long list, all right, Thanks DJ yep. 1:35:44.360 --> 1:35:47.840 Next question is from Zach Goodle of Swamp two four seven. 1:35:49.880 --> 1:35:53.920 Hey, Daniel, I'm curious for your impressions of Florida's draft class. 1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:58.320 They're sending nine guys to the combine after two last year. Obviously, 1:35:58.320 --> 1:36:00.360 don't need to get into each one, but maybe some 1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:03.120 of the standouts to you, and in particular Graham Mertz 1:36:03.479 --> 1:36:05.720 with the quarterback class and if the play that he 1:36:05.760 --> 1:36:08.360 put together at Florida after a little bit up and 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:12.200 down at Wisconsin changed his trajectory at all. 1:36:12.360 --> 1:36:15.439 Yeah, I mean, I'll start with Mertz. To me, I 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:19.200 had him more of as a you know, late round 1:36:19.360 --> 1:36:21.800 priority free agent. You know, he is a little bit older, 1:36:21.800 --> 1:36:23.479 which a lot of these guys are, was twenty four. 1:36:24.760 --> 1:36:26.559 But you know, I like the way he threw the 1:36:26.560 --> 1:36:28.240 ball on the move. I thought he held the ball 1:36:28.240 --> 1:36:31.320 a little bit long. I thought he got a little 1:36:31.360 --> 1:36:33.880 bit jumpy at times in the pocket, and I just 1:36:33.880 --> 1:36:35.200 thought there were times where I just like to see 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:36.760 him just throw a little more trajectory. He just kind 1:36:36.800 --> 1:36:39.760 of threw a flat ball. But by all accounts talking 1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:42.200 to the folks there about you know, he's just a 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:45.680 he's a great dude. He's really really bright. So if 1:36:45.680 --> 1:36:47.840 he can kind of just pass the threshold, you know, 1:36:47.920 --> 1:36:49.800 as a thrower, I think he's got a chance to, 1:36:50.400 --> 1:36:52.720 you know, an opportunity maybe as a practice squad or 1:36:52.880 --> 1:36:56.920 hang on to a roster as a backup. But to me, 1:36:57.000 --> 1:36:59.200 he was he was more kind of a late round 1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:01.839 guy or free with some of these other Florida guys. 1:37:03.000 --> 1:37:06.360 Cameron Jackson is enormous kind of unique to see a 1:37:06.439 --> 1:37:08.720 detackle with six six and a half three hundred and 1:37:08.760 --> 1:37:11.880 forty pounds. He more of a flash player than someone 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:13.880 who's real consistent. I thought he played on his heels 1:37:13.880 --> 1:37:17.880 a little bit much, but he can stack blocks. He's 1:37:17.920 --> 1:37:20.000 got real strong hands, and I thought he played with 1:37:20.040 --> 1:37:23.920 good block awareness. So anyways, interesting package with him with 1:37:23.960 --> 1:37:26.559 his size. And then I'll just give you a couple 1:37:26.640 --> 1:37:30.959 more here Badger the receiver. I like that he's inside outside, 1:37:31.000 --> 1:37:34.519 he's instinctive settles and zones. He can win with quicks 1:37:34.600 --> 1:37:37.880 against press. He tracks the ball easy. I thought his 1:37:38.000 --> 1:37:40.280 his his frame. You know, he caught the ball and 1:37:40.280 --> 1:37:42.560 played bigger than his size, so I thought he was, 1:37:43.080 --> 1:37:46.600 you know, fourth round type player. And then give you 1:37:46.640 --> 1:37:49.400 one more here, just with Shamar James, a linebacker. You know, 1:37:49.520 --> 1:37:53.400 first tape you watches against Miami has nice play against 1:37:53.439 --> 1:37:55.439 Cammore to pick one off there. You can use him 1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:57.880 in a variety of ways. You can spy him. He's 1:37:57.880 --> 1:38:01.559 got range, the perimeter, he can harry and cover down 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:04.160 the steam. I just thought, you know, physicality wise, he 1:38:04.200 --> 1:38:06.479 got stuck on some blocks and got swallowed a little 1:38:06.479 --> 1:38:08.680 bit inside, So a little bit more of a Day 1:38:08.720 --> 1:38:11.679 three guy for me, but but someone who's got a chance. 1:38:12.200 --> 1:38:14.479 Next question is from Patrick Brown of two four to 1:38:14.479 --> 1:38:15.400 seven Sports. 1:38:15.960 --> 1:38:17.599 I want to ask you about a couple of Tennessee guys. 1:38:17.640 --> 1:38:20.320 You already touched on Samson, so we could circle back 1:38:20.360 --> 1:38:22.600 to James Pierce Cheen or something he mentioned earlier was 1:38:22.600 --> 1:38:25.760 that there was a pretty wide range to where he 1:38:25.760 --> 1:38:29.040 could go. He obviously going into the season, was projected 1:38:29.080 --> 1:38:30.479 near maybe the top of the draft. So what did 1:38:30.520 --> 1:38:32.320 you think, how did you sort of evaluate his play 1:38:32.320 --> 1:38:33.800 this season? And thank you for doing this. 1:38:34.320 --> 1:38:38.960 Sure, yeah, teams are are just kind of split on him, 1:38:39.040 --> 1:38:40.679 just kind of you get stuff all over the map. 1:38:40.800 --> 1:38:42.640 He is, you know, he is a kind of a 1:38:42.720 --> 1:38:48.400 unique player because of his frame and his build. But gosh, 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:50.880 when I watch him, he's just really really explosive. Again, 1:38:50.920 --> 1:38:54.479 I mentioned those kind of those first three steps. Those 1:38:54.520 --> 1:38:58.000 are the ones that that that jump out to me. 1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:00.600 He reminds me, Gosh, I'm the name is I have 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:02.360 all these draft names in my head, so the current 1:39:02.400 --> 1:39:07.640 guys end up escaping me. But Leonard Floyd, you know, 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:11.200 the tall, long, rangy edge rusher, That's kind of who 1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:14.680 he reminds me of as a player. So he's he's 1:39:14.720 --> 1:39:18.599 a good one. Omar or Norman Lott the DT. He 1:39:18.640 --> 1:39:22.400 can he plays with power through edges. He's kind of 1:39:22.640 --> 1:39:25.880 funky in that he's got a unique rush as someone 1:39:25.880 --> 1:39:28.519 in there who's he'll use a euro step at times. 1:39:28.520 --> 1:39:30.680 He can cross your face. I didn't think he was 1:39:30.880 --> 1:39:34.439 ultra ultra dynamic, but he just got a lot of 1:39:34.439 --> 1:39:36.760 ways to kind of win in there. I gave him, 1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:40.560 you know what, was a third round grade. Elijah Simmons 1:39:40.760 --> 1:39:43.759 the other DT's three hundred and forty pounds, just massive, 1:39:44.400 --> 1:39:46.840 can sit there and plug and hold the point of attack, 1:39:46.880 --> 1:39:49.840 easy holds up doubles. Not much of a pass rusher, 1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:53.120 more just push the pocket. I'm always rip of these 1:39:53.200 --> 1:39:55.960 last two. Bru McCoy seen him since high school, at 1:39:56.000 --> 1:39:59.960 modern day and at USC just you know, durabilities the 1:40:00.560 --> 1:40:02.519 is the knock there. But he's big, he's physical, He's 1:40:02.520 --> 1:40:05.040 gonna he's gonna look great just watching him move around 1:40:05.040 --> 1:40:08.400 the warm ups, contract the ball, he's physical after the catch. 1:40:09.320 --> 1:40:11.640 Just uh, you know, durability and staying healthy is the 1:40:11.760 --> 1:40:15.719 is the issue there. And then Thornton, you know size, speed, 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:18.400 you know they he caught a zillion of those those 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:21.640 bang eights those skinny posts in that offense with that 1:40:21.760 --> 1:40:25.240 real row wide split. He tracks the ball. Well, I 1:40:25.280 --> 1:40:26.920 just thought it was a route running he telegraph a 1:40:26.960 --> 1:40:29.200 little bit and uh, just like to see a little 1:40:29.240 --> 1:40:31.320 bit more precision there, a little more and a little 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:35.320 more uh intention there as a route runner and uh 1:40:35.400 --> 1:40:36.800 and I didn't know after the catch if there was 1:40:36.880 --> 1:40:39.280 much wiggle, just kind of more of a runaway from. 1:40:39.120 --> 1:40:41.519 You guy, appreciate it. 1:40:42.000 --> 1:40:44.479 Yep, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be 1:40:44.600 --> 1:40:48.000 right back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:49.200 Combine Conference call. 1:40:55.800 --> 1:41:00.000 Next question is Dustin Adams on a disease sports in Indianapolis. 1:41:02.200 --> 1:41:02.320 Hi. 1:41:02.439 --> 1:41:05.320 Daniel thinks of taking the time today, no problem. 1:41:06.280 --> 1:41:08.560 So for the Cult, they have some clear needs in 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:12.080 the secondary with some younger pieces in the mold and 1:41:12.120 --> 1:41:15.920 then making the defensive philosophy switch with Louis Arumo coming 1:41:15.920 --> 1:41:19.120 over as the coordinator. What are your thoughts, I guess 1:41:19.120 --> 1:41:22.960 on the day one and day two prospects at corner 1:41:23.080 --> 1:41:26.720 and at safety, especially in terms of being able to 1:41:26.720 --> 1:41:28.400 play in like the deep safety role. 1:41:29.040 --> 1:41:34.120 Sure, deep safety role. I mean Starks fits that out 1:41:34.160 --> 1:41:37.120 of Georgia. He's someone that can play in the nickel, 1:41:37.200 --> 1:41:41.800 can play high as the safety, so that one would 1:41:41.840 --> 1:41:43.479 would be the first one I would talk about as 1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:45.519 someone who can range and play over the top. Xavier 1:41:45.520 --> 1:41:49.439 Wats is another one from Notre Dame who fits in there. 1:41:49.520 --> 1:41:52.200 One of one of my favorite guys in the safety 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:55.760 group who's gonna, you know, third fourth round, maybe you 1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:58.000 get him in the fourth round is Craig Woodson from CAL. 1:41:59.600 --> 1:42:03.080 He he plays in the deep path, he can play downhill, 1:42:04.040 --> 1:42:07.719 he can open, he's a smooth mover, he's got speed, 1:42:09.040 --> 1:42:11.400 he's a firm tackler, and he's really really smart and 1:42:11.439 --> 1:42:13.160 talking to the folks at CAL, they rave about his 1:42:13.160 --> 1:42:16.559 intelligence and leadership. So he's someone I'm big on trust 1:42:16.560 --> 1:42:19.320 in the back end, and I think he's someone you 1:42:19.360 --> 1:42:21.120 get in the third fourth round that I would trust 1:42:21.360 --> 1:42:24.880 putting back there real early in his career. Corner wise, 1:42:26.160 --> 1:42:29.800 for a little more of the depth guys talked about. 1:42:29.800 --> 1:42:32.160 Trey Amos is one of my favorites at an Old 1:42:32.200 --> 1:42:38.040 miss Parish, Kansas State in terms of like having some tools, 1:42:38.040 --> 1:42:39.640 some raw tools to work with, but you've got to 1:42:39.640 --> 1:42:42.280 be a little bit patient. Darien Porter from Iowa State 1:42:42.439 --> 1:42:46.320 hightweight speed. He can play the ball down the field. 1:42:46.400 --> 1:42:49.479 He just is a little bit tight, but you've got 1:42:49.479 --> 1:42:52.240 some things to work with there. Another cow kid, Noel Williams, 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:55.360 who's got a ton of production and I think is 1:42:56.200 --> 1:42:57.920 he's ready to play right away. You can watch the 1:42:57.920 --> 1:42:58.800 Auburn game with him. 1:42:58.800 --> 1:42:59.000 You can. 1:42:59.000 --> 1:43:01.519 He had three picks in that game, picked off cam 1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:03.519 Ward to pick six against cam Ward in that game. 1:43:03.920 --> 1:43:07.479 Real feisty, physical, maybe a little quicker than fast. We'll 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:10.400 see what he runs. But he's another one kind of 1:43:10.439 --> 1:43:13.439 in that third fourth round range. So there's you know, 1:43:13.479 --> 1:43:15.960 there's some interesting names there that I think would that 1:43:16.000 --> 1:43:16.920 would fit what they're doing. 1:43:18.520 --> 1:43:21.280 Next question is Mooki Alexander from SB Nation. 1:43:24.880 --> 1:43:28.559 Hi there, Daniel, thank you for this really enlightening conference call. 1:43:29.520 --> 1:43:32.240 The big story up here in the Pacific Northwest regarding 1:43:32.280 --> 1:43:34.639 the Seattle Seahawks is whether or not they extend Geno 1:43:34.760 --> 1:43:37.240 Smith and keep him as a starter in twenty twenty five. 1:43:37.800 --> 1:43:40.480 But even if he does stay, there is the possibility 1:43:40.520 --> 1:43:42.880 that Seattle could actually draft a quarterback this year, which 1:43:42.960 --> 1:43:45.400 is something they've only done twice ever under John Schneider. 1:43:46.040 --> 1:43:48.400 There are a lot of options, seemingly in the late 1:43:48.479 --> 1:43:50.680 day one day two even day three range, and the 1:43:50.680 --> 1:43:53.120 most common names I've seen mock drafted to Seattle are 1:43:53.439 --> 1:43:56.519 Will Howard of Ohio State, Calum McCord of Syracuse, Quin 1:43:56.560 --> 1:43:59.479 Eyears of Texas, and Jackson Dart of Ole, miss whom 1:43:59.560 --> 1:44:02.000 I believe you it suggests it could even be an 1:44:02.000 --> 1:44:05.520 option for Seattle at number eighteen. So with the expectation 1:44:05.560 --> 1:44:08.920 of a run oriented, play action based more under center 1:44:08.960 --> 1:44:12.519 offense under Clint Kubiak, which of those quarterbacks do you believe 1:44:12.560 --> 1:44:16.040 best fits the new Seattle offense. 1:44:17.040 --> 1:44:20.720 Yeah, I appreciate that. Look. Coffee would probably a little 1:44:20.760 --> 1:44:23.320 bit rich for me at eighteen. For Jackson Dart, I 1:44:23.320 --> 1:44:27.160 have him in the forties, but he's my third quarterback there. 1:44:27.280 --> 1:44:29.120 And I just kind of ripped through some of these 1:44:29.160 --> 1:44:31.920 guys and I tell you about him, and then I'll 1:44:32.000 --> 1:44:33.920 just kind of wrap it up with with who I 1:44:33.960 --> 1:44:35.960 think could make some sense for what they're doing. But 1:44:36.520 --> 1:44:39.559 you know, Will Howard had the hot playoff run. He's 1:44:39.560 --> 1:44:42.679 got obviously the size almost six four two and forty pounds, 1:44:42.760 --> 1:44:45.599 ultra competitive kid. I love the fact that he wonted 1:44:45.600 --> 1:44:48.240 two spots at k State and then obviously this year 1:44:48.240 --> 1:44:51.680 at Ohio State, he's a touch thrower. He's quick to 1:44:51.680 --> 1:44:54.560 get to number three in his read. You know, the 1:44:54.560 --> 1:44:56.599 big question is just going to be the arm strength. 1:44:57.160 --> 1:44:58.719 You know, I had a couple, you know, a couple 1:44:58.760 --> 1:45:01.400 of brain cramps during the year, but I thought he 1:45:01.479 --> 1:45:03.680 cleaned all that stuff up. You know, everybody's gonna look 1:45:03.680 --> 1:45:06.439 at the Oregon game, the first meeting, you know, with 1:45:06.600 --> 1:45:08.000 running the clock out there at the end of that 1:45:08.040 --> 1:45:11.599 ball game, and you know, some turnovers against against Penn State. 1:45:11.680 --> 1:45:14.280 But I thought he got better and throughout the year. 1:45:14.320 --> 1:45:15.559 I just want to see him throw live. I've never 1:45:15.600 --> 1:45:16.920 seen him throw live. I want to see what his 1:45:17.000 --> 1:45:20.800 arm looks like. Tyler Schuck from Louisville is older. He's 1:45:20.800 --> 1:45:25.639 twenty five. He's got four degrees, so he's probably gonna 1:45:25.640 --> 1:45:28.559 be as well educated as anybody on your football team. 1:45:28.560 --> 1:45:31.200 I can't imagine anybody having more than that. He can 1:45:31.280 --> 1:45:35.080 drive the ball. He's big and strong. He's another one 1:45:35.080 --> 1:45:37.880 who can get to number three in the progression. He 1:45:37.960 --> 1:45:40.479 can throw off balance. He's got a lot of arm talent. 1:45:40.520 --> 1:45:42.960 There's a lot of lot to like there. One of 1:45:42.960 --> 1:45:45.600 the things with him is just pocket awareness stuff. He 1:45:45.720 --> 1:45:49.559 bails too much instead of just sliding, shuffling and finding 1:45:49.600 --> 1:45:54.240 space within the pocket. But he's a big, strong dude yours. 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:57.160 There's there's a few guys that are on my list 1:45:57.400 --> 1:46:00.680 to go back after the combine, after I get some 1:46:00.720 --> 1:46:03.439 time after watching all these guys and go back to 1:46:03.479 --> 1:46:06.320 twenty three tape, because you know, look, I know he 1:46:06.400 --> 1:46:08.720 wasn't helly this year, but he just he did not 1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:10.680 take the step I was hoping he would take. He 1:46:10.760 --> 1:46:13.760 is still young at twenty one, He's got quick feet, 1:46:13.840 --> 1:46:16.360 quick release, but he just he got it a lot 1:46:16.360 --> 1:46:18.799 of bad habits. I didn't think he played with any conviction, 1:46:19.040 --> 1:46:22.160 just not trusting what he's seeing, got real sloppy with 1:46:22.200 --> 1:46:25.559 his feet, and everything kind of got away from him. 1:46:25.560 --> 1:46:27.800 So the team had tremendous success, and he obviously made 1:46:27.800 --> 1:46:31.599 some big time throws in the playoffs, but overall, the 1:46:31.760 --> 1:46:34.519 not the step forward I was hoping for him. And 1:46:34.560 --> 1:46:37.120 then last one I think you mentioned was Kyle McCord 1:46:37.120 --> 1:46:41.479 from Syracuse reminded me a lot of Derek Carr at Fresno. 1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:46.040 Quick feet, quick eyes, you see some RPO stuff there. 1:46:46.080 --> 1:46:48.920 He's accurate, he's got a touch down the field, he 1:46:49.000 --> 1:46:51.559 can gass it up and give you some velocity when needed, 1:46:52.640 --> 1:46:55.559 just played real aggressive and was a little bit frenetic 1:46:55.560 --> 1:46:59.080 at times and also ran himself into some sacks. So 1:46:59.360 --> 1:47:01.839 all those guys have, you know, different strengths and weaknesses. 1:47:01.920 --> 1:47:06.120 I think they're all intriguing type players. To me, they're 1:47:06.160 --> 1:47:09.120 more ideally you'd love to get them in the third round. 1:47:10.120 --> 1:47:12.200 You know, I think Dart will be gone by them, 1:47:12.240 --> 1:47:14.120 But I think the rest of these guys, that's more 1:47:14.200 --> 1:47:16.680 the range that I have them. But in terms of 1:47:16.760 --> 1:47:19.439 someone you'd want to work with, Gosh, it sounds weird 1:47:19.439 --> 1:47:22.439 even though he's older, but for what they're doing, I mean, 1:47:22.520 --> 1:47:25.639 Tyler Shuck to me would be UH would be someone 1:47:25.680 --> 1:47:27.920 I would be interested in maybe taking a flyer on 1:47:27.960 --> 1:47:28.960 there in the third round. 1:47:29.880 --> 1:47:31.960 Very interesting. That was actually gonna be my other question. 1:47:32.040 --> 1:47:33.679 What do you think of Tyler Shuck? But do you 1:47:33.680 --> 1:47:35.640 you your mind reader to an addition. 1:47:35.360 --> 1:47:35.799 To being. 1:47:37.479 --> 1:47:38.679 I appreciate it. Thanks for your time. 1:47:40.200 --> 1:47:43.320 Next question is from Brandon Kritstl of Guerrilla Sports. 1:47:45.160 --> 1:47:46.960 Hey DJ, first time, long time. 1:47:48.240 --> 1:47:51.880 With some mu's talk about shadur And and Travis Center, 1:47:51.920 --> 1:47:54.680 I was curious what you thought of the other UH 1:47:55.479 --> 1:47:57.640 prospects from see specifically all the white outs obviously a 1:47:57.640 --> 1:47:59.160 couple more will be at the combine, and then I 1:47:59.200 --> 1:48:02.200 don't think Ull Shepherd will be. And then separately, what 1:48:02.200 --> 1:48:04.479 do you think of the two Jayhawks Devin Neil and 1:48:04.680 --> 1:48:06.240 the Hawk Mamba Kobe Bryant. 1:48:06.360 --> 1:48:09.400 Well, there you go, all right, cool, I'll start. Good 1:48:09.400 --> 1:48:11.360 to hear your voice. By the way, I'll go Colorado. 1:48:11.960 --> 1:48:14.640 I mean we've I think we've. You know, Travis Hunter is. 1:48:15.920 --> 1:48:18.880 Travis Hunter is like someone took someone went to the 1:48:18.880 --> 1:48:24.400 Philadelphi Eagles and took DeVante's Davante Smith and Darius Slay 1:48:25.120 --> 1:48:26.880 and just like spun him around in a circle and 1:48:26.920 --> 1:48:30.679 they came out as the same human being. He's he's 1:48:31.000 --> 1:48:35.879 he's unique, but wester is you know, for someone who's 1:48:35.960 --> 1:48:38.479 just over five nine hundred and seventy seven pounds, not 1:48:38.560 --> 1:48:41.960 real big, but ultra dynamic explosive. I like the fact 1:48:41.960 --> 1:48:45.360 he had twenty one explosives and only three drops. He's 1:48:45.400 --> 1:48:47.640 sudden getting in and out of breaks. Just gonna have 1:48:47.640 --> 1:48:50.000 to play him in space, you know, that's where his 1:48:50.080 --> 1:48:52.439 game is. And I thought he was, you know, kind 1:48:52.439 --> 1:48:56.160 of in that fourth round range Jimmy Horns a little bit, uh, 1:48:56.400 --> 1:48:58.479 you know, in that same vein I like Wester a 1:48:58.520 --> 1:49:01.200 little bit more, but Horn a lot of quick hitters. 1:49:01.280 --> 1:49:06.120 He's tough and strong through contact, he can uh uh 1:49:06.439 --> 1:49:09.240 you know, he can really see things, feel things instinctive wise. 1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:12.479 I didn't think he was quite as elusive after the 1:49:12.560 --> 1:49:16.759 catch there, but uh, someone who's uh, you know, definitely 1:49:16.800 --> 1:49:18.800 kind of an interesting down the line player. You didn't 1:49:18.800 --> 1:49:20.680 ask me about Colorado of state guys by the way there. 1:49:20.680 --> 1:49:23.559 I feel like that's, uh, that's not serving your market properly. 1:49:24.479 --> 1:49:27.200 When you have someone that like Tory Horton, who's a really, 1:49:27.200 --> 1:49:29.040 really good player, I'm just busting your chops. 1:49:29.640 --> 1:49:31.280 And then yeah, I read a chime in on Tory 1:49:31.280 --> 1:49:31.720 Horton too. 1:49:31.720 --> 1:49:33.800 Obviously was banged up a little bit. No, I know, 1:49:34.120 --> 1:49:35.880 he's one of my favorites. You know, I have had 1:49:35.880 --> 1:49:37.639 a chance to go back and watch him in twenty three. 1:49:38.040 --> 1:49:41.920 But inside outside, smooth mover, he can separate, he can 1:49:42.040 --> 1:49:45.760 change direction, he's got a big catch radius, knows how 1:49:45.760 --> 1:49:48.400 to play, knows how to work back. I mean, he's 1:49:48.560 --> 1:49:50.519 you're gonna see him climb through the spring. You're gonna 1:49:50.520 --> 1:49:52.400 start hearing a lot more about him as he's healthy 1:49:52.439 --> 1:49:55.559 in the spring, and you'll start seeing some buzz building 1:49:55.600 --> 1:50:00.000 on him. Let's get to your Jayhawks. I actually I'm 1:50:00.200 --> 1:50:05.280 logan Brown fan. You know, plays their right tackle. He's 1:50:05.320 --> 1:50:08.680 got quick feet, plays a little bit high, But I 1:50:09.040 --> 1:50:11.400 just like the fact that you got somebody that can 1:50:11.439 --> 1:50:14.240 work up to the second level swallows linebackers. He's got 1:50:14.280 --> 1:50:16.920 a little nasty edge to him when he's free. When 1:50:16.920 --> 1:50:20.240 he's free, he looks for work. So like that about him. 1:50:20.520 --> 1:50:22.519 Just over extends a little bit at time, something to 1:50:22.520 --> 1:50:24.720 work on. But I liked him to the tune of 1:50:24.760 --> 1:50:30.240 like third fourth round Kobe Bryant. You mentioned it. The 1:50:30.240 --> 1:50:32.920 ball production is excellent. He's lean, he's one hundred and 1:50:32.960 --> 1:50:35.000 seventy one pounds. I don't love that. But he can 1:50:35.040 --> 1:50:38.880 take the ball away. You know that. The the Houston 1:50:38.920 --> 1:50:41.920 game will show you that. Just watch him and cover three, 1:50:42.040 --> 1:50:45.080 just drive and pull it away. He can. He can 1:50:45.120 --> 1:50:47.080 find the ball with his back to the quarterback, which 1:50:47.080 --> 1:50:49.719 is very hard to do. He's got really quick feet 1:50:49.920 --> 1:50:52.559 and for someone who's not big and who's light like that, 1:50:53.439 --> 1:50:55.720 although it's always kind of a low tackler, but he's 1:50:56.040 --> 1:50:58.280 he's got a decent batting average as a tackler. So 1:50:59.040 --> 1:51:01.360 he's again someone I think if he was a little 1:51:01.360 --> 1:51:03.519 bit bigger, we'll be talking about him probably more in 1:51:03.520 --> 1:51:05.760 that you know, second round range. But I think he's 1:51:05.760 --> 1:51:10.680 probably three four is where we see him go oh, 1:51:10.720 --> 1:51:12.320 he want me to I'm just looking through another couple 1:51:12.320 --> 1:51:14.959 more on the maybe two more. By the way, Dotson 1:51:15.120 --> 1:51:19.200 had the five picks at the other corner zone. Eyes 1:51:19.320 --> 1:51:21.439 sees it well, drives through the receiver to the ball, 1:51:22.520 --> 1:51:25.120 just got out muscled a little bit times. He's the 1:51:25.160 --> 1:51:27.519 Day three guy for me, Devin Neil short step or 1:51:27.520 --> 1:51:30.559 he can make you miss the productions, excellent looks to 1:51:30.560 --> 1:51:33.320 get vertical as fast as possible. I thought he was 1:51:33.360 --> 1:51:35.719 a little bit quicker than fast. I'm anxious to see 1:51:36.040 --> 1:51:39.880 what he runs. But someone who's definitely a you know, 1:51:40.040 --> 1:51:42.320 valuable option is a check down back and someone who's 1:51:42.320 --> 1:51:44.480 an efficient runner two hundred and twenty pounds. 1:51:45.320 --> 1:51:47.599 Thanks dj, I'll see an indie if you make it 1:51:47.840 --> 1:51:48.120 all right. 1:51:48.200 --> 1:51:48.559 See but. 1:51:50.680 --> 1:51:53.719 Nice question is from Matt Ryan of Baltimore Ravens dot Com. 1:51:55.000 --> 1:51:57.760 Hey, Daniel, I appreciate you taking the time. I'm just 1:51:57.800 --> 1:52:00.840 curious with the defensive line depth in this class, and 1:52:00.880 --> 1:52:02.680 you know, the top end talent that they have do 1:52:02.720 --> 1:52:05.559 you think that teams could kind of wait until later 1:52:05.680 --> 1:52:08.400 rounds just because of you know, how many starter level 1:52:08.560 --> 1:52:09.479 level players there are. 1:52:10.560 --> 1:52:12.080 Yeah, I think that's I think there's a couple of 1:52:12.120 --> 1:52:15.240 positions in this draft where that's going to be the discussion. 1:52:15.760 --> 1:52:19.200 When you look at if you are dead set on 1:52:19.240 --> 1:52:22.720 getting a defensive tackle, edge rusher, running back, tight end, 1:52:23.160 --> 1:52:25.280 I think that you have to you know, you have 1:52:25.360 --> 1:52:27.880 to look at the combination. And this is you know 1:52:27.920 --> 1:52:29.200 what you do in the draft rooms. You take the 1:52:29.200 --> 1:52:31.439 combination of players. Okay, if we take the running back 1:52:31.439 --> 1:52:33.960 in the first round and we take the tackle in 1:52:34.000 --> 1:52:36.639 the second round, what does that combination look like versus 1:52:36.680 --> 1:52:39.439 flipping it. We get the tackle first, we come back 1:52:39.479 --> 1:52:41.200 and get the you know, the running back, edge rush 1:52:41.240 --> 1:52:43.680 or whatever position later. I just think those are some 1:52:43.760 --> 1:52:46.680 positions of real, real depth. So, you know, if that's 1:52:46.840 --> 1:52:48.840 if that's a need for you along the defensive line, 1:52:48.880 --> 1:52:52.120 running back, tight end, I think you might look at 1:52:52.160 --> 1:52:55.519 going another position early, knowing you could you can circle 1:52:55.560 --> 1:52:57.680 back and still get a really talented player, you know, 1:52:57.760 --> 1:53:01.679 not just in this year, but historically, like guys, whereas 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:04.000 I don't know that the top fifteen of this draft 1:53:04.120 --> 1:53:06.479 marries up with some of the better top fifteens we've 1:53:06.479 --> 1:53:08.920 seen over the last decade. But I do think the 1:53:09.000 --> 1:53:12.200 day two mix, I think it's very similar, So I 1:53:12.200 --> 1:53:13.679 think there's quality to be had there. 1:53:18.000 --> 1:53:22.760 Next question, Ray Ditty Paldo from Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Hope 1:53:22.800 --> 1:53:23.800 I didn't butcher that name. 1:53:24.280 --> 1:53:26.759 You did not, Thank you, Daniel. 1:53:26.760 --> 1:53:29.599 There's a discussion a couple of years ago about the 1:53:29.720 --> 1:53:32.120 value of taking a guy like Jordan Davis in the 1:53:32.160 --> 1:53:33.280 middle of the first round. 1:53:33.800 --> 1:53:35.000 You know, a two down player. 1:53:35.280 --> 1:53:38.560 He's been that for the Eagle, So same question a 1:53:38.600 --> 1:53:40.320 couple of years later. But if you could spin that 1:53:40.400 --> 1:53:43.640 towards the Steelers, would there be value there taking a 1:53:43.640 --> 1:53:46.120 guy like Kenneth Grant who could help your run defense, 1:53:46.880 --> 1:53:48.800 or would you rather see them a twenty one go 1:53:48.880 --> 1:53:51.960 after a guy with more three down versatility, you know, 1:53:52.040 --> 1:53:54.400 pick your guy Harriman, whoever that might be. 1:53:54.479 --> 1:53:58.400 Yeah, yeah, I think Kenneth has that upside in him. 1:53:59.000 --> 1:54:01.120 I mean, he's gonna be three hundred and forty pounds 1:54:01.120 --> 1:54:02.920 and he's going to run under five flat. I mean, 1:54:02.960 --> 1:54:04.599 you're just going to see an athlete. It's a freak. 1:54:04.960 --> 1:54:07.400 He just hasn't you know. He's not a polished rusher yet, 1:54:07.520 --> 1:54:09.680 so I think that's all in front of him, and 1:54:09.720 --> 1:54:12.640 I think in the meantime, he's someone who is going 1:54:12.720 --> 1:54:15.559 to dominate against the run. He's going to eat blocks. 1:54:16.439 --> 1:54:19.680 And you know as a league that's gone, you know, 1:54:20.000 --> 1:54:23.040 to so much shell coverage and become so obsessed with 1:54:23.080 --> 1:54:26.320 taking away explosives, Well, you do that, you got to 1:54:26.320 --> 1:54:28.680 play with light boxes, and so I do think that 1:54:29.120 --> 1:54:31.000 talking to people around the league and just you know, 1:54:31.439 --> 1:54:33.680 following a team around the league and speaking to people 1:54:33.720 --> 1:54:37.320 every week, there's more value in these guys. Now. It's 1:54:37.360 --> 1:54:39.000 kind of everything's kind of come around a little bit 1:54:39.000 --> 1:54:41.120 where it was that, man, if you can't really rush 1:54:41.160 --> 1:54:44.800 the passer, I'm not going to expend the high resources 1:54:44.800 --> 1:54:47.720 on you as a defensive lineman a defensive tackle. And 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:49.200 now it's like, you know what, we're trying to take 1:54:49.200 --> 1:54:51.440 away explosive plays, we're a little light in the box. 1:54:51.600 --> 1:54:54.280 Having someone that can dominate against the run and let 1:54:54.400 --> 1:54:57.400 us play our coverage over the top is huge, and 1:54:57.640 --> 1:55:01.200 he's I think he's got more as a rusher. I'm 1:55:00.880 --> 1:55:03.800 I have this vision in my head and and this 1:55:03.960 --> 1:55:06.040 is probably a sign that I haven't been sleeping much 1:55:06.080 --> 1:55:09.480 but I just remember going back to Albert Hainsworth when 1:55:09.480 --> 1:55:13.080 he was with Tennessee playing with van in Bosh. I'm 1:55:13.080 --> 1:55:15.320 not comparing him in terms of, you know, people work 1:55:15.360 --> 1:55:17.800 out all the stuff. I'm just saying a big jumbo 1:55:17.920 --> 1:55:20.720 athlete like that that you could kick out at end 1:55:21.280 --> 1:55:23.520 and then they would put Vandenbosch inside and they could 1:55:23.560 --> 1:55:25.160 run games and do all those things. And then, like 1:55:25.520 --> 1:55:28.320 I think Kenneth Grant, he's got the ability and the 1:55:28.360 --> 1:55:31.880 tools to do some unique stuff and he has not 1:55:32.000 --> 1:55:35.360 come close to scratching the surface of his potential. So 1:55:36.000 --> 1:55:38.240 I would have no problem whatsoever if the Eagle or 1:55:38.240 --> 1:55:40.960 if the Steelers made that pick, and I'd be I'd 1:55:40.960 --> 1:55:42.520 be pretty pumped up about it if I were a 1:55:42.520 --> 1:55:43.080 Steeler fan. 1:55:44.080 --> 1:55:44.440 Thank you. 1:55:46.800 --> 1:55:50.360 Next question is from Jessa Nance of tied one hundred 1:55:50.440 --> 1:55:50.960 point nine. 1:55:55.960 --> 1:56:00.720 Hey, Daniel, I have a question about Alabama players Campbell 1:56:01.200 --> 1:56:03.880 and Tyler Booker. I know if you've spoken on them 1:56:03.920 --> 1:56:09.880 a bit, but my question is, so far Jahad you 1:56:10.040 --> 1:56:14.120 have him, if he's still around, why would it be 1:56:14.200 --> 1:56:16.560 a great, great idea to take him at that twenty 1:56:16.640 --> 1:56:20.600 ninth spot. And if Tyler Booker is able to go 1:56:20.680 --> 1:56:23.720 to Chicago, what could he how could he be beneficial 1:56:23.760 --> 1:56:29.440 to that Chicago team? And then additionally, what does Jalen 1:56:29.520 --> 1:56:32.960 Milro need to do on combine, in the combine and 1:56:33.160 --> 1:56:36.000 on pro Day to at least get back into the 1:56:36.040 --> 1:56:36.720 second round? 1:56:37.360 --> 1:56:39.440 Cool? I will I will go those one at a 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:43.120 time here. So with Campbell in Washington, I think that 1:56:43.400 --> 1:56:46.160 represents a tremendous value there at pick number twenty nine. 1:56:47.120 --> 1:56:49.880 And again, if you obviously have seen him and when 1:56:49.880 --> 1:56:52.520 he when he plays off the ball, and the range 1:56:52.680 --> 1:56:54.640 and the ability to use him as a blitzer from 1:56:54.680 --> 1:56:57.920 off the ball is pretty is pretty special. And then 1:56:58.000 --> 1:57:00.440 I'm not so sure you can't just get to third 1:57:00.480 --> 1:57:02.360 down and let him kick out side full time and 1:57:02.440 --> 1:57:03.960 let him rush and he might go get you ten 1:57:04.080 --> 1:57:08.320 sacks doing that. So that would constitute a tremendous value 1:57:08.320 --> 1:57:10.200 there at pick number twenty nine in my opinion, based 1:57:10.240 --> 1:57:13.640 off the player, I think they would love coaching him there, 1:57:13.720 --> 1:57:17.480 and dan Quinn would love him in Washington. Booker with 1:57:17.600 --> 1:57:20.840 the Bears, it's the biggest need the Bears have when 1:57:20.840 --> 1:57:23.200 you look at them offensive line wise, they have got 1:57:23.200 --> 1:57:24.960 to be better. They've got to be more firm up 1:57:25.000 --> 1:57:28.360 the middle and That's Booker's calling card, is how he 1:57:28.400 --> 1:57:31.360 can set his anchor and is just a strong, firm 1:57:31.400 --> 1:57:34.600 presence there as well as someone who's so smart and 1:57:34.800 --> 1:57:37.680 bright and aware. I like the fact when you have 1:57:37.760 --> 1:57:42.160 a young quarterback and Caleb Williams surrounding him everywhere with 1:57:42.240 --> 1:57:45.360 as many smart players as you can. I just think 1:57:45.400 --> 1:57:47.839 that helps in a big way. And that doesn't necessarily 1:57:47.920 --> 1:57:49.680 have to just be veterans. It can be with really 1:57:49.760 --> 1:57:51.960 really smart young players and that's what Booker is, So 1:57:52.960 --> 1:57:55.520 I think that fits and solves a lot of their 1:57:55.560 --> 1:57:58.320 problems there. And then when it comes to Milrow, it's 1:57:58.440 --> 1:58:02.320 just again, you know, continuing to grow as a passer. 1:58:03.520 --> 1:58:05.440 You know, get your cleats in the ground. There's time 1:58:05.480 --> 1:58:07.240 so he can get up a little bit on his toes. 1:58:08.280 --> 1:58:11.160 Just be just just relax, be comfortable, drop your shoulders, 1:58:11.160 --> 1:58:14.200 put your cleats in the ground and h and let 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:16.280 and let the let the ball come off your hand. 1:58:16.320 --> 1:58:19.080 I mean, it's all in there as a runner. I 1:58:19.200 --> 1:58:21.200 was talking to a baseball GM the other day and 1:58:21.240 --> 1:58:24.240 we were, you know, kind of referencing how we grade 1:58:24.240 --> 1:58:26.880 players in the scale that we use the scouting skill 1:58:27.040 --> 1:58:30.200 and in baseball, it goes up to eighty, and they 1:58:30.360 --> 1:58:33.160 reference everything by saying, someone's got you know, he's got 1:58:33.160 --> 1:58:36.800 a sixty five fastball, he's got seventy speed, he's got 1:58:36.840 --> 1:58:40.120 you know, fifty makeup what have you? And I was like, 1:58:40.120 --> 1:58:41.640 you know, it's interesting. If I was thinking about this 1:58:41.760 --> 1:58:44.480 draft and you take all the quarterbacks and you took 1:58:44.520 --> 1:58:47.520 all their individual skills and you put them on that scale, 1:58:48.240 --> 1:58:50.440 I would say that he's the only one who has 1:58:50.480 --> 1:58:53.080 an eighty trait, which is his ability to run like 1:58:53.880 --> 1:58:56.879 he is an eighty runner. It is a special special 1:58:56.920 --> 1:59:00.360 talent that he has. So I hope, I don't know 1:59:00.360 --> 1:59:02.320 if he's gonna run a forty or not, uh at 1:59:02.320 --> 1:59:04.880 the combine or at the pro day, but I I 1:59:04.920 --> 1:59:07.560 would not be surprised if the second number was a three, 1:59:07.640 --> 1:59:09.960 just watching the tape of how fast he is and 1:59:10.000 --> 1:59:12.160 how good of a runner he is. So now it's 1:59:12.200 --> 1:59:14.760 just continue to grow and uh and and show through 1:59:14.800 --> 1:59:17.640 the spring meet with teams. He's going to have zooms, 1:59:17.640 --> 1:59:20.920 he's gonna have he's gonna have visits, you know, show 1:59:20.960 --> 1:59:23.600 them that that uh, you know, you've got a thirst 1:59:23.680 --> 1:59:27.720 to improve and and uh, I would not be surprised 1:59:27.760 --> 1:59:30.240 at all if somebody you know, was was excited about 1:59:30.280 --> 1:59:32.520 that and and they were to uh, you know, to 1:59:32.520 --> 1:59:34.480 pull the trigger there at that point in time. So 1:59:34.640 --> 1:59:37.680 I think right now most teams have him more third 1:59:37.720 --> 1:59:42.000 or fourth round. But to your point, he's got an 1:59:42.000 --> 1:59:43.960 opportunity to spring to see if he can em better that. 1:59:44.360 --> 1:59:45.760 Thank you sure. 1:59:46.360 --> 1:59:50.440 Next question is from Angelique Chingellis of Detroit News. 1:59:50.880 --> 1:59:53.160 Thanks so much, And Daniel, I just wanted to ask 1:59:53.160 --> 1:59:57.240 you very quickly another Michigan question. Uh, your impressions of 1:59:57.240 --> 2:00:00.720 the running backs Donovan Edwards and Kalel Mallin and Donovan 2:00:00.760 --> 2:00:03.040 seemed to improve his stock a bit at the Senior Bowl. 2:00:03.520 --> 2:00:06.640 And my second question is way early in the call 2:00:06.720 --> 2:00:08.880 you mention you were talking about Mason Graham and yeah, 2:00:08.880 --> 2:00:10.960 and so that you hope people don't overthink it too 2:00:11.040 --> 2:00:12.960 much with him, And I was just wondering what you meant, like, 2:00:13.000 --> 2:00:15.560 what what might they overthink with with Mason? 2:00:16.200 --> 2:00:18.040 Well, I think he's not going to be long, He's 2:00:18.040 --> 2:00:21.240 gonna have short arms, you know, body type wise, he's 2:00:21.240 --> 2:00:22.880 not going to be someone who's going to stand up 2:00:22.880 --> 2:00:25.000 on a stage, you know, in a line full of 2:00:25.000 --> 2:00:27.240 these defensive linemen and you're gonna go, oh, gosh, that 2:00:27.280 --> 2:00:29.720 looks like the top ten defensive linemen. He just doesn't 2:00:29.880 --> 2:00:31.880 he doesn't cut that image, you know, he doesn't have 2:00:31.880 --> 2:00:35.760 that body type. So and I don't know, testing wise, 2:00:36.360 --> 2:00:38.240 I have no clue, you know, how he's going to 2:00:38.320 --> 2:00:41.280 run or jump or do all those things. I do 2:00:41.400 --> 2:00:42.960 know some of these other guys are going to blow 2:00:42.960 --> 2:00:46.440 it out, so that that's kind of my point on him. 2:00:46.680 --> 2:00:49.960 But the tape is so good. I don't know many 2:00:49.960 --> 2:00:53.200 people remember this one, but I was in Baltimore with 2:00:53.320 --> 2:00:57.320 Kelly Gregg, and he's got more twitch to him, more 2:00:57.360 --> 2:01:01.800 suddenness and than Kelly. But Kelly was a wrestler who 2:01:01.800 --> 2:01:05.120 played with leverage and you I mean, if you if 2:01:05.160 --> 2:01:08.960 he played on a field of wet paint, he did 2:01:09.000 --> 2:01:11.040 not have a drop of paint on him at the 2:01:11.120 --> 2:01:12.840 end of the game. And that's kind of the way 2:01:12.880 --> 2:01:15.640 it is with Mason. He's got such good balance and 2:01:15.760 --> 2:01:19.840 strength and leverage. He's again I'm a big fan of his, 2:01:19.920 --> 2:01:22.640 but that's what I was referencing in terms of the spring. 2:01:22.680 --> 2:01:25.800 If if you know, we take the football pants off 2:01:25.840 --> 2:01:28.720 and put the shorts on, that maybe he would take 2:01:28.760 --> 2:01:31.879 on some water there. So that was my thought process 2:01:31.920 --> 2:01:35.360 on the running backs. Khalil Mullings was a was a 2:01:35.360 --> 2:01:38.080 fun one to me. You know, he kind of going 2:01:38.120 --> 2:01:40.600 to the year and you know, Donovan is the one. 2:01:40.640 --> 2:01:42.480 He's on the video game and that's all the attention 2:01:42.560 --> 2:01:45.000 and all the eyeballs, and then I know he didn't 2:01:45.040 --> 2:01:47.520 quite have the year he wanted. But Mullings, you know, 2:01:47.800 --> 2:01:50.960 for someone that's two hundred and twenty seven pounds, I 2:01:50.960 --> 2:01:53.720 thought he had vision. I thought he ran with balance, 2:01:53.800 --> 2:01:56.440 he can push the pile. I love the fact he 2:01:56.520 --> 2:01:58.280 never put the ball on the ground, he didn't fumble. 2:01:58.600 --> 2:02:00.960 The se game was the first one I watched. You know, 2:02:01.000 --> 2:02:03.360 he's got the stiff arm and the long run to 2:02:03.480 --> 2:02:05.160 kind of set up his touchdown at the end of 2:02:05.160 --> 2:02:07.960 that game to really pull out one that they you know, 2:02:08.040 --> 2:02:10.800 might not should have won. But he was able to, 2:02:11.000 --> 2:02:13.520 uh to kind of lead the charge. There not a 2:02:13.560 --> 2:02:15.840 factor in the passing game with only six catches, so 2:02:15.880 --> 2:02:18.880 that's something, you know, we'll see if that impacts where 2:02:18.920 --> 2:02:20.480 he goes. But I had him more in like that 2:02:20.560 --> 2:02:25.840 fourth round. Range had a similar grade with Donovan. You know, 2:02:26.000 --> 2:02:29.360 you've got some flashes with him this year. They flashed 2:02:29.400 --> 2:02:32.720 the power he uh, you know, he's another one's got 2:02:32.720 --> 2:02:34.480 a nice little stiff arm. He can catch the ball 2:02:34.480 --> 2:02:37.040 out of the backfield. I just thought he didn't run 2:02:37.080 --> 2:02:39.120 with you know, with a lot of wiggle, and I 2:02:39.120 --> 2:02:42.560 didn't quite see the same burst that I was hoping 2:02:42.600 --> 2:02:44.960 to see. And you're right, the Senior Bowl was better. 2:02:46.280 --> 2:02:49.120 But uh, you know, he's someone I think that uh, 2:02:49.320 --> 2:02:51.280 you know, I don't think this year you saw his best. 2:02:51.440 --> 2:02:54.320 So I'm hoping that that's uh, that's gonna that's gonna 2:02:54.320 --> 2:02:56.360 show up wherever he lands, and and we'll see the 2:02:56.400 --> 2:02:57.320 younger version of him. 2:02:57.880 --> 2:02:58.680 Thank you so much. 2:02:58.920 --> 2:03:02.120 Sure, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be 2:03:02.280 --> 2:03:05.640 right back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting 2:03:05.680 --> 2:03:06.560 Combine Conference. 2:03:06.640 --> 2:03:16.000 Call just past the two hour mark, DJ, so hopefully 2:03:16.040 --> 2:03:18.040 we can we can get to these last few questions 2:03:18.040 --> 2:03:22.240 here in order. Next question is from Ryan Hinton of 2:03:22.320 --> 2:03:23.320 Saints Block Party. 2:03:24.720 --> 2:03:25.960 Hey, DJ, sorry about that. 2:03:26.720 --> 2:03:27.920 I really wanted to find out. 2:03:28.240 --> 2:03:31.280 It seems like Jackson Dart seems to be getting quite 2:03:31.280 --> 2:03:33.280 a bit of buzz in these last couple of weeks, 2:03:33.480 --> 2:03:36.800 especially since the Senior Bowl. I just wanted to know, like, 2:03:36.800 --> 2:03:38.200 what are your thoughts on him and kind of where 2:03:38.240 --> 2:03:41.120 does he where does he level out at with this 2:03:41.240 --> 2:03:42.200 quarterback class. 2:03:42.560 --> 2:03:46.320 Sure, I have him as the third guy. The things 2:03:46.320 --> 2:03:50.680 that that you like about Jackson, I see there's some similarities. 2:03:51.880 --> 2:03:56.400 People will maybe raise their eyebrows on this, but I 2:03:56.480 --> 2:03:59.400 do see some similarities to Hurts when Hurts was going 2:03:59.440 --> 2:04:01.760 through the process US and that got kind of a 2:04:01.800 --> 2:04:06.040 similar build, similar frame. They're both really good athletes, they're 2:04:06.080 --> 2:04:09.040 both beloved by their teammates, say the right things, do 2:04:09.120 --> 2:04:10.680 all the right things, all that stuff kind of off 2:04:10.680 --> 2:04:13.120 the field. There's a lot of similarities there. And I 2:04:13.120 --> 2:04:15.800 thought with Jalen he got better every year. He just 2:04:15.920 --> 2:04:18.200 kept just taking steps. And we've seen it since he's 2:04:18.200 --> 2:04:19.960 coming to the league. He just he just keeps getting 2:04:19.960 --> 2:04:23.440 better and better and better because he's just he's got 2:04:23.440 --> 2:04:26.400 great wiring. He works really really hard, and there's a 2:04:26.400 --> 2:04:29.560 competitiveness and a toughness to him. So that's some of 2:04:29.600 --> 2:04:31.720 the things that I that I really like about Jackson. 2:04:32.960 --> 2:04:35.520 This offense, you know they're not gonna get real deep 2:04:35.560 --> 2:04:38.840 into progressions. Lane does a really good job of getting 2:04:38.840 --> 2:04:40.960 to the point where you know early in progressions you're 2:04:40.960 --> 2:04:44.360 gonna have places to distribute the football. So you'll see 2:04:44.360 --> 2:04:48.280 some RPOs. You'll see some seams, uh some they take 2:04:48.360 --> 2:04:50.280 a lot of deep shots, but they're kind of designed 2:04:50.360 --> 2:04:52.800 deep shots, so you kind of know where the ball's going. 2:04:52.840 --> 2:04:54.960 But he throws a nice, you know, nice deep ball. 2:04:56.360 --> 2:04:58.720 When to work on from that regard not just kind 2:04:58.720 --> 2:05:01.120 of getting deeper in progressions, but there's times where I 2:05:01.160 --> 2:05:02.840 think his eyes can be a little bit ahead of 2:05:02.840 --> 2:05:04.760 his feet, just kind of sinking that up, marrying that 2:05:04.840 --> 2:05:08.640 up a little bit better, and just you know, continuing 2:05:08.680 --> 2:05:11.400 to uh, you know, to be cautious and careful with 2:05:11.440 --> 2:05:14.320 the football and some some key moments that's uh, you know, 2:05:14.360 --> 2:05:16.320 that's some areas for him. But I have met him. 2:05:16.680 --> 2:05:19.480 He is a really really good kid, presents himself really well, 2:05:20.240 --> 2:05:22.120 and I think there's, uh, there's a lot of tools 2:05:22.160 --> 2:05:23.360 to work with. So that's why I happened as a 2:05:23.400 --> 2:05:24.080 third quarterback. 2:05:25.720 --> 2:05:26.280 Thanks. 2:05:28.560 --> 2:05:31.080 Next question is from Jim Alexander of Real Talker. 2:05:37.280 --> 2:05:41.960 Sorry, hey, DJ. Two Bears questions here. First, one, do 2:05:42.000 --> 2:05:44.600 you think they'll have their pick of choosing for the 2:05:44.680 --> 2:05:48.240 offensive lineman available in the draft. And second of all, 2:05:48.360 --> 2:05:50.520 when you look back at Roma Dunes that he didn't 2:05:50.520 --> 2:05:53.960 have the best of years last year, do you still 2:05:54.000 --> 2:05:56.360 project him to be the top talent that you were 2:05:56.440 --> 2:05:57.720 projecting him to be last year. 2:05:58.040 --> 2:05:59.720 Yeah, I don't have any I don't have any concerns 2:05:59.720 --> 2:06:02.240 about him. I think he's gonna be really really good. 2:06:02.720 --> 2:06:05.200 There was, uh, you know, obviously there's issues up front 2:06:05.240 --> 2:06:07.640 offensive line wise, and there was a you know, there 2:06:07.680 --> 2:06:10.520 was a lot of mouths to feed there. So I'm 2:06:10.800 --> 2:06:14.200 I'm excited about Ben Johnson come in there. I'm excited 2:06:14.240 --> 2:06:17.520 about him getting you know, uh to really have an 2:06:17.520 --> 2:06:19.920 opportunity to take off their Caleb's going to be better. 2:06:20.840 --> 2:06:22.600 I just think everything else around him is going to 2:06:22.640 --> 2:06:25.240 be better. But when I watch the tape, I still 2:06:25.280 --> 2:06:27.920 see somebody that can that can get open. I still 2:06:27.920 --> 2:06:31.040 see somebody that can make plays. And I think you'll 2:06:31.120 --> 2:06:34.120 you'll see him. His makeups so good and the talents there. 2:06:34.200 --> 2:06:37.200 I don't really worry about him, uh going forward. And 2:06:37.240 --> 2:06:39.640 then when you you look at where they're picking, do 2:06:39.720 --> 2:06:43.000 they get you know, the first crack at an offensive lineman. Look, 2:06:43.000 --> 2:06:45.320 there's some teams ahead of them that could that could 2:06:45.320 --> 2:06:48.600 pull the trigger. So I think that's TBD. But I 2:06:48.640 --> 2:06:51.400 do think the fact that you know, their need being 2:06:51.440 --> 2:06:53.840 along the interior, I think they're going to have their 2:06:53.880 --> 2:06:57.920 pick of interior guys so that I know it's not 2:06:58.040 --> 2:06:59.760 the sexiest thing in the world. I know people don't 2:06:59.760 --> 2:07:02.440 want to say get super excited about taking a guard 2:07:03.200 --> 2:07:06.000 with a tenth pick, but if you watched the Bears 2:07:06.000 --> 2:07:08.040 play last year, you might be excited about taking a 2:07:08.040 --> 2:07:08.960 guard with the tenth pick. 2:07:09.960 --> 2:07:10.480 Thanks DJ. 2:07:12.040 --> 2:07:16.240 Next question, we're going to go international. Ricardo Gomez from Portugal. 2:07:18.240 --> 2:07:21.960 I love DJ solosz Americo. Fellow DJ Gratings from Mexico. 2:07:22.480 --> 2:07:28.800 From guess Son Aguno's prospectus for Barsustoken Combine, what are 2:07:28.880 --> 2:07:31.840 some under the radar prospects you think could make a 2:07:31.920 --> 2:07:34.920 huge impact during the combine and Reister stuck. 2:07:36.080 --> 2:07:38.240 That's a great question. I am so glad you asked 2:07:38.240 --> 2:07:41.640 it in English because I I I'm gonna be honest, 2:07:41.640 --> 2:07:44.440 I did not pass Spanish one the first time I 2:07:44.440 --> 2:07:47.520 took it. I had to retake it, so I'm uh 2:07:48.040 --> 2:07:50.120 not proud of that. But I did eventually get get 2:07:50.160 --> 2:07:52.160 to get a passing grade, although I think it was 2:07:52.200 --> 2:07:54.960 a C. When I'm looking at some underrated players that 2:07:55.000 --> 2:07:58.360 I think are gonna flash at the combine, well, I've 2:07:58.440 --> 2:08:01.920 mentioned Harston from Kentucky. He's gonna absolutely fly and I 2:08:01.920 --> 2:08:03.760 mean he's in my top fifty. But you know, I 2:08:03.800 --> 2:08:06.640 think he's got a chance to run himself up into 2:08:06.640 --> 2:08:10.360 the first round conversation. You'll hear some some buzz and 2:08:10.400 --> 2:08:15.280 some conversation about him. There's a there's a couple of 2:08:15.280 --> 2:08:19.040 of edge rushers and defensive linemen that I think you're 2:08:19.040 --> 2:08:21.480 gonna see tests really really well that I'm uh that 2:08:21.520 --> 2:08:23.960 I'm high on. They're a good football player. Saveon Jones 2:08:23.960 --> 2:08:27.240 from LSU is gonna work out really well. He's two 2:08:27.280 --> 2:08:30.160 hundred and eighty nine pounds and uh, he was dominant 2:08:30.160 --> 2:08:31.960 in the Senior Bowl game. I mean he's going to 2:08:32.000 --> 2:08:34.160 be a Day two pick, but I think you could 2:08:34.160 --> 2:08:37.120 see him really put on a show there and run 2:08:37.520 --> 2:08:41.480 particularly well. You look at the edge rushers that are 2:08:41.520 --> 2:08:44.520 going to be impressive. I think Braden Swinson from LSU, 2:08:44.600 --> 2:08:47.400 his teammate, has a chance to work out run really well. 2:08:48.560 --> 2:08:52.560 Aman Hassanin from Boise State, who's a great story is 2:08:52.600 --> 2:08:55.880 a is a kid who grew up in Egypt. He's 2:08:55.880 --> 2:08:59.600 gonna he's he's productive there at Boise State. He's uh, 2:09:00.040 --> 2:09:01.600 you know, he's going to test. I think he's going 2:09:01.680 --> 2:09:03.800 to surprise some people with how he works out and 2:09:03.840 --> 2:09:06.800 how he tests. So those are those are some of 2:09:06.840 --> 2:09:10.720 the guys that I think you'll see create some buzz there. 2:09:10.800 --> 2:09:13.200 I'm trying to think of an offensive maybe an offensive 2:09:13.240 --> 2:09:17.760 lineman I can find for you. Well, I mean he's 2:09:17.760 --> 2:09:20.240 not he's not necessarily under the radar, but I do 2:09:20.280 --> 2:09:23.120 think Membo from Missouri is going to work out extremely 2:09:23.120 --> 2:09:24.880 well at three hundred and thirty pounds. We'll be talking 2:09:24.880 --> 2:09:25.680 about him. 2:09:26.240 --> 2:09:32.840 Next question is from Phil Jones of New Stitch Media. 2:09:33.640 --> 2:09:36.080 Hey, Daniel, thanks for having us on today. 2:09:36.560 --> 2:09:40.120 No problem, So just. 2:09:40.080 --> 2:09:43.040 Jumping on the number six pick with the Raiders. Now 2:09:43.080 --> 2:09:46.640 you have on your mob draft two point zero. You 2:09:46.720 --> 2:09:50.480 got Shadora fall into them. But you know, in the 2:09:50.600 --> 2:09:53.960 last few years we haven't seeing the Raiders needed a quarterback, 2:09:54.040 --> 2:09:58.640 and you know they kind of just didn't go that route. 2:09:59.240 --> 2:10:03.000 Is there a possible ability if Chador has not been 2:10:03.080 --> 2:10:07.880 there at six besides going defense like Will Johnson, like 2:10:07.920 --> 2:10:10.360 you said earlier, would they go someone like, you know, 2:10:11.360 --> 2:10:16.120 maybe McMillan or maybe probably Gent and then come down 2:10:16.160 --> 2:10:19.400 to the thirty seventh pick, would they probably look at 2:10:19.440 --> 2:10:23.360 a Jackson Dark or maybe Jaln Milroe. 2:10:24.720 --> 2:10:26.960 Yeah, I mean I think Dart would enter into that 2:10:27.000 --> 2:10:30.360 discussion mill Row. That would be a little bit early 2:10:30.400 --> 2:10:32.480 based off where I have him. But I think you 2:10:32.480 --> 2:10:34.080 you know, look, you do all your homework in the 2:10:34.120 --> 2:10:36.920 spring and get to know him and work him out, 2:10:36.960 --> 2:10:41.000 and obviously the upside is there. So I wouldn't rule 2:10:41.080 --> 2:10:43.120 out eventually getting to that point. I'm not there at 2:10:43.120 --> 2:10:45.840 that at that point, at this point in time in 2:10:45.960 --> 2:10:48.920 terms of some of those other options, yeah, I mean, 2:10:49.280 --> 2:10:51.280 you know, you could go on a whole whole host 2:10:51.280 --> 2:10:54.800 of different directions there. I would love, you know, I 2:10:54.800 --> 2:10:58.000 would love Genty the only thing. And I'm again, he's 2:10:58.040 --> 2:11:01.919 my third overall player. I'm a huge, huge gente believer 2:11:02.240 --> 2:11:05.480 and I am one when it comes to running backs. 2:11:05.480 --> 2:11:08.520 I just my theory is not, you know, do you 2:11:08.560 --> 2:11:10.840 take them high? Do you not take them high? My 2:11:11.000 --> 2:11:13.320 theory is that you take the running back when you 2:11:13.360 --> 2:11:16.040 have everything in place that he can hit. All his 2:11:16.160 --> 2:11:18.760 carries matter. I just don't want to give away carries. 2:11:18.920 --> 2:11:20.560 They only have so many carries in their body and 2:11:20.600 --> 2:11:22.680 I want them all to matter and to count for something. 2:11:23.080 --> 2:11:25.040 So I just don't know if the Raiders team wise 2:11:25.120 --> 2:11:27.040 are there at this point in time where that would 2:11:27.040 --> 2:11:29.840 make as much sense to me. That's, you know, more 2:11:29.960 --> 2:11:33.240 kind of a finishing piece than one of those early 2:11:33.280 --> 2:11:37.040 pieces there. So I mean we've we've kind of seen 2:11:37.080 --> 2:11:39.400 it with the Giants with Sequon Barkley, Like we saw 2:11:39.400 --> 2:11:42.080 a Saquon Barkley on the team that wasn't ready for him, 2:11:42.080 --> 2:11:44.000 and then we saw a Saquon Barkley with the team 2:11:44.040 --> 2:11:46.600 that was ready made. And you can see the impact 2:11:46.600 --> 2:11:49.480 in the and the and the value there. So I 2:11:49.760 --> 2:11:53.440 just that would be my one, my one counter argument there, 2:11:53.440 --> 2:11:55.440 even though I have gent as the third best player 2:11:55.480 --> 2:11:57.960 in the draft real quick. 2:11:59.320 --> 2:12:04.040 With Chip ca Ally's offense, Uh, between the three quarterbacks, 2:12:04.040 --> 2:12:05.680 who would be a good fit. 2:12:06.360 --> 2:12:09.400 For it, I think she door fits it really well. 2:12:11.120 --> 2:12:13.360 I think he I think he sees the field well. 2:12:14.080 --> 2:12:16.880 I think you make good decisions. You know, Chip can 2:12:17.120 --> 2:12:20.080 get play out there with tight ends. Now you know 2:12:20.120 --> 2:12:22.400 we've seen his offense morph and change over the years, 2:12:22.440 --> 2:12:26.280 So I just think he'd be able to, uh get 2:12:26.320 --> 2:12:28.120 them in the right play, get them where they want 2:12:28.120 --> 2:12:30.879 to be, and and uh and deliver the ball accurately, 2:12:30.880 --> 2:12:34.160 make good decisions. So that's why that one, Uh, that 2:12:34.240 --> 2:12:35.920 one I've I've had I think for a couple of 2:12:35.960 --> 2:12:37.960 times there of that being the fit and I think 2:12:38.480 --> 2:12:41.360 should or not necessarily having a huge, huge arm, you 2:12:41.400 --> 2:12:44.520 know in uh in that division and in that home stadium. 2:12:44.520 --> 2:12:46.720 That's it doesn't matter. He's got plenty of armed to 2:12:46.760 --> 2:12:48.000 do everything he needs to do there. 2:12:49.920 --> 2:12:51.120 Thank you, appreciate you. 2:12:51.240 --> 2:12:51.360 Ye. 2:12:51.480 --> 2:12:54.120 Most question is from Mark Wiser of the Athens bar 2:12:54.400 --> 2:12:55.120 Banner Hrald. 2:12:57.080 --> 2:13:00.000 Hey, Daniel, you alluded to another big Georgia draft class, 2:13:00.280 --> 2:13:02.680 safety Dan Jackson, did not get one of their fourteen 2:13:02.720 --> 2:13:06.000 combine invites. Did that surprise you? And what value do 2:13:06.040 --> 2:13:07.640 you see it in him at the next level? 2:13:08.040 --> 2:13:09.880 Yeah, I was surprised because he had a good week 2:13:09.920 --> 2:13:11.640 at the Senior Bowl. You know, he had a couple 2:13:11.600 --> 2:13:14.320 of big hits both in practice and in the game. 2:13:15.680 --> 2:13:19.160 So that one I caught me a little bit off guard. 2:13:19.240 --> 2:13:23.040 Now he's he's not the he's not the biggest guy 2:13:23.080 --> 2:13:25.480 in terms of the you know, the witwity weigh here. 2:13:25.520 --> 2:13:27.720 He was one hundred and ninety four pounds, so yeah, 2:13:27.800 --> 2:13:31.440 he's five eleven six, so just under six foot, one 2:13:31.480 --> 2:13:34.000 hundred and ninety four pounds. But tape wise, I mean 2:13:34.040 --> 2:13:36.840 I had him in like the fifth round is the 2:13:36.880 --> 2:13:38.520 grade that I gave him. You know, he's got a 2:13:38.600 --> 2:13:41.640 quick pedal, can plant and drive big hits on tape 2:13:41.680 --> 2:13:43.320 as well is at the Senior Bowl. He plays with 2:13:43.360 --> 2:13:47.440 a physical presence, takes good angles. There are some misses, yeah, 2:13:47.480 --> 2:13:50.000 some ricochet misses just because he doesn't wrap up, but 2:13:50.040 --> 2:13:52.560 it's not for a lack of throwing himself in there. 2:13:52.720 --> 2:13:55.760 But I thought he saw the field well and I 2:13:55.760 --> 2:13:57.560 also thought he had a little value as a blitzer, 2:13:57.640 --> 2:13:59.800 So yeah, I thought he was. I think he's definitely 2:13:59.840 --> 2:14:02.200 aftable player. Was a little surprised he didn't get invite 2:14:02.600 --> 2:14:03.400 and quickly for. 2:14:03.560 --> 2:14:06.600 George offensive Linement at the combine. Thoughts on Tate Radledge, 2:14:06.760 --> 2:14:09.320 Jared Wilson, Dylan Fairchild, and Xavier Truss. 2:14:09.640 --> 2:14:13.480 Sure, I'll I'll go through him here. Wilson to me 2:14:13.600 --> 2:14:16.280 is the is the top one of the bunch as 2:14:16.320 --> 2:14:20.760 a center wide base. He plays with strong hands, he's 2:14:21.000 --> 2:14:24.960 he takes good angles the second level, real firm, He's 2:14:24.960 --> 2:14:28.560 aware on twists and games. He can recover and stay attached. 2:14:28.560 --> 2:14:30.040 I think he was an elite athlete. He just doesn't 2:14:30.040 --> 2:14:32.480 really get beat and he's a He's a good solid player. 2:14:33.640 --> 2:14:37.320 Rattledge was you know at right guard, he can it's 2:14:37.360 --> 2:14:40.720 more of a ceiling position blocker. Takes good angles, but 2:14:40.840 --> 2:14:45.200 kind of more all upper body, just wrestle the side 2:14:45.240 --> 2:14:47.880 note watching that Florida tape with the Florida's got that 2:14:47.920 --> 2:14:50.840 four hundred pounds defensive tackle and uh hit that that 2:14:50.880 --> 2:14:54.240 defensive tackle. Threw him around a little bit, but had 2:14:54.280 --> 2:14:56.120 some initial pop. Just didn't do a really good job 2:14:56.160 --> 2:14:59.040 of sustaining trusts. Uh and I had him kind of 2:14:59.040 --> 2:15:01.960 as a down the line guy. Trusts right tackle position 2:15:02.040 --> 2:15:04.960 blocker some right guard as well. Just plays a little 2:15:05.000 --> 2:15:07.400 bit high, struggles to change direction. Didn't think he was 2:15:07.440 --> 2:15:09.640 able to really bend and sync all that well, but 2:15:09.760 --> 2:15:12.360 does flash some power and can can pull and kick 2:15:12.360 --> 2:15:16.640 out again. Day three guy for me, and then we 2:15:16.760 --> 2:15:18.800 got Fairchild. Was that the last one? Yeah, Yeah, that's 2:15:18.880 --> 2:15:22.360 right Fairchild left guard, strong hands, does a good job. 2:15:22.440 --> 2:15:25.240 Hework in his hands, can control the point of attack. 2:15:25.400 --> 2:15:28.120 Just a little bit stiff again, plays a little bit high, 2:15:28.200 --> 2:15:31.440 looks for work, just a little bit limited athletically. So 2:15:31.840 --> 2:15:34.200 I thought Wilson was on a different tier personally than 2:15:34.240 --> 2:15:36.640 the rest of them, But uh uh, they're all going 2:15:36.720 --> 2:15:39.120 to get picked thanks much. Sure. 2:15:40.320 --> 2:15:43.560 Next question is from Joanne Coley of Commander's Game Day. 2:15:44.520 --> 2:15:46.480 Hi, DJ, how you doing doing great? 2:15:47.840 --> 2:15:50.760 So, you know the Commanders the offensive line has been 2:15:50.800 --> 2:15:53.440 a weak spot this season and they're also and they're 2:15:53.480 --> 2:15:55.560 also in need of a solid number two that's been 2:15:55.640 --> 2:15:58.919 a big top. So from your perspective, what's your offensive 2:15:58.960 --> 2:16:01.880 lineman and the draft commit like an immediate impact? And 2:16:02.000 --> 2:16:04.400 are there any wide receivers can step in that number 2:16:04.440 --> 2:16:06.400 to roll and compliment Terry McLaurin. 2:16:07.520 --> 2:16:12.560 Yeah, I'll start with the receivers. Yeah, there's there's definitely receivers. Uh, 2:16:12.640 --> 2:16:14.800 you know, they're picking at the bottom of the first 2:16:14.880 --> 2:16:19.520 round there at pick twenty nine. I would love to 2:16:19.600 --> 2:16:21.680 run the card up for either Golden or a BUCA 2:16:21.800 --> 2:16:24.200 Luther Burden as we haven't talked about him yet. He's 2:16:24.200 --> 2:16:27.440 in that mix. You know, teams will have those guys 2:16:27.440 --> 2:16:29.120 in different orders, but I think any of those three 2:16:29.160 --> 2:16:32.520 guys would be uh, you know, good, good complimentary players. 2:16:32.879 --> 2:16:33.119 Sorry. 2:16:33.480 --> 2:16:37.200 Third one, which with Luther Burden from Missouri. Oh yeah, yeah, 2:16:37.240 --> 2:16:40.000 so I compared him to Stefan Diggs coming out of college. 2:16:40.080 --> 2:16:42.400 You know, real quick athletic slot. A lot of quick 2:16:42.480 --> 2:16:46.520 hitters really strong hands, great body control. It's got some 2:16:46.600 --> 2:16:49.360 burst and make miss after the catch. You know, his 2:16:49.400 --> 2:16:52.720 production dip this year, his yards per catch dipped, but 2:16:52.840 --> 2:16:55.560 it was more more of a result of kind of 2:16:55.560 --> 2:16:57.720 some bad balls coming his way and just not getting 2:16:57.840 --> 2:17:01.120 you know, as many opportunities. So he's someone that if 2:17:01.120 --> 2:17:03.040 he has a good spring, he might not even be 2:17:03.080 --> 2:17:05.240 there when they pick. But those are those are some 2:17:05.360 --> 2:17:07.440 options there that at the bottom of the first round 2:17:07.480 --> 2:17:09.959 I think would would make a lot of sense. And 2:17:10.000 --> 2:17:11.959 then what was the other position you were asking about 2:17:12.040 --> 2:17:13.199 for immediate. 2:17:12.760 --> 2:17:14.680 Help our offensive line? 2:17:15.240 --> 2:17:18.400 Yeah, offensive line wise, you know, same guys we've kind 2:17:18.400 --> 2:17:22.440 of mentioned, Donovan Jackson, Gray's Abel. Those would be a 2:17:22.440 --> 2:17:24.800 couple that would be plugging play guys right out the 2:17:24.920 --> 2:17:27.760 jump if they were to be there there at pick 2:17:27.840 --> 2:17:31.920 number twenty nine. And then from you know, a tackle perspective, 2:17:32.560 --> 2:17:34.800 you know, you start getting into you know, Simmons if 2:17:34.800 --> 2:17:37.080 he were to be there, he's he's coming off of 2:17:37.080 --> 2:17:40.119 an injury, but he is out of Ohio State. He's man, 2:17:40.160 --> 2:17:45.040 he's ready to go. He could he could start right away. 2:17:45.160 --> 2:17:45.520 Thank you. 2:17:45.959 --> 2:17:46.240 Sure. 2:17:47.920 --> 2:17:51.400 Next question is from Jamal at News for Jackson Jacksonville, Florida. 2:17:52.440 --> 2:17:54.760 Hey, DJ want to ask you about a couple of 2:17:54.760 --> 2:17:57.640 the guys that are from Jacksonville, Pat Bryan out of 2:17:57.680 --> 2:18:00.120 Illinois and Jalen Rivers from Miami going to be up 2:18:00.160 --> 2:18:03.040 there at the combine. What have you seen from those 2:18:03.040 --> 2:18:05.039 guys where you think they could end up in the draft. 2:18:05.520 --> 2:18:10.280 Sure, let's start first of all with Pat Bryant. I 2:18:10.320 --> 2:18:14.080 gave him a third round grade. There's a there's a 2:18:14.120 --> 2:18:16.640 big clump of receivers in there though, so you're going 2:18:16.680 --> 2:18:19.000 to see some of these guys, you know, fall beyond that. 2:18:19.160 --> 2:18:22.959 But outside he's uh, you know, wins on a lot 2:18:22.959 --> 2:18:25.720 of slants. He's an excellent adjuster down the field. It's 2:18:25.720 --> 2:18:27.840 one of my favorite things about him. He's a hands catcher, 2:18:27.920 --> 2:18:30.520 only one drop on the year. He's strong with the 2:18:30.560 --> 2:18:32.720 ball in his hands after the catch, he can win 2:18:32.760 --> 2:18:35.080 early with his release, and I love the toughness to 2:18:35.160 --> 2:18:36.879 work in traffic and kind of win some of those 2:18:36.920 --> 2:18:37.880 combat catches. 2:18:38.320 --> 2:18:38.520 Uh. 2:18:38.560 --> 2:18:40.400 And I love the size that he has. I just 2:18:40.400 --> 2:18:43.119 think he'd be a great fit there as a third 2:18:43.200 --> 2:18:46.640 round pick. And then Rivers from Miami. You know, obviously 2:18:46.680 --> 2:18:51.360 you start with the size, massive left tackle out there. 2:18:51.760 --> 2:18:54.640 He is, uh, you know, he He's one that I've 2:18:54.720 --> 2:18:56.360 said this about some of the linement, but just needs 2:18:56.360 --> 2:18:57.760 to play a little lower. It can get a little 2:18:57.760 --> 2:19:00.640 bit tall, a little bit high, and that struggles with 2:19:00.680 --> 2:19:03.080 some of the redirect things, you know, against counters and 2:19:03.400 --> 2:19:06.360 things like that. But can move, you know, outside, can 2:19:06.400 --> 2:19:10.240 pull and seal as a pass protector. He's a little 2:19:10.280 --> 2:19:11.959 bit of a scooper with his hands, kind of an 2:19:12.000 --> 2:19:15.240 underhook scooper. Some guys are you know, better at that 2:19:15.320 --> 2:19:17.800 than others, but you don't see that quite as much. 2:19:17.840 --> 2:19:20.840 But he's someone that I thought was a Day three 2:19:20.879 --> 2:19:23.200 pick early Day three with a ton of side, ton 2:19:23.240 --> 2:19:25.000 of upside and. 2:19:24.920 --> 2:19:25.920 Hey, one quick follow up. 2:19:25.920 --> 2:19:27.080 The Jaguars sitting at. 2:19:26.959 --> 2:19:28.520 Five, where do you think they could go to a 2:19:28.560 --> 2:19:31.240 guy to like Ted McMillan work to pair with BTJ. 2:19:32.680 --> 2:19:35.520 That's a little higher than I have him, but I 2:19:35.560 --> 2:19:38.760 have him as a top receiver, so you know they could, man, 2:19:38.800 --> 2:19:42.760 you'd have you'd have two power forward types. I mean, 2:19:42.760 --> 2:19:46.640 he's got unbelievable body control in hands to go play 2:19:46.680 --> 2:19:50.640 above the rim like red zone weapon Drake London esque. 2:19:51.440 --> 2:19:55.760 He just a real, real smooth mover. So yeah, I 2:19:55.760 --> 2:19:57.879 have him as the fifteenth players. I mean, gosh, I 2:19:57.879 --> 2:20:00.959 guess that's not that. That's not that far remove from 2:20:01.400 --> 2:20:03.640 where I haven't grated, So I think you could make 2:20:03.680 --> 2:20:06.080 that argument. That'd be a fun pairing. All right, let's 2:20:06.080 --> 2:20:08.640 take a quick break. We'll be right back with the 2:20:08.680 --> 2:20:12.200 rest of this year's NFL Scouting Combine Conference call. 2:20:18.480 --> 2:20:21.440 Next question is from Alan Alford of sports talk show 2:20:21.720 --> 2:20:22.959 in Tampa. 2:20:23.360 --> 2:20:25.440 Thank you, Daniel for doing this, really appreciate it. 2:20:26.400 --> 2:20:27.200 Thank you so much. 2:20:28.120 --> 2:20:31.240 And so my question is, you know Hall of Famer 2:20:31.320 --> 2:20:35.320 Deion Sanders coach Prime did say that Sador Sanders he 2:20:35.400 --> 2:20:39.359 doesn't want his son playing for four teams. That's the Browns, 2:20:39.440 --> 2:20:43.720 the Titans, the Jets, and Bears. Will this cause an issue, 2:20:43.840 --> 2:20:45.640 Let's say, if he does want to get taken by 2:20:45.640 --> 2:20:46.480 one of those teams. 2:20:47.680 --> 2:20:49.720 Is that like new news? By the way, I hadn't 2:20:49.720 --> 2:20:50.120 seen that. 2:20:51.320 --> 2:20:55.520 It's something that you know, his dad basically said that, Hey, 2:20:55.600 --> 2:20:57.080 I don't want him going to these four teams. 2:20:57.080 --> 2:20:59.760 I don't know if it's so new, but it's something 2:20:59.760 --> 2:21:00.440 that his. 2:21:00.480 --> 2:21:01.360 Dad put out there. 2:21:01.920 --> 2:21:03.920 Yeah, so I know I. 2:21:04.040 --> 2:21:06.600 Have him going eleventh. I know you haven't gone eleventh, 2:21:06.640 --> 2:21:09.000 but Jess, in case something does happen, you know it's 2:21:09.040 --> 2:21:09.560 a draft. 2:21:10.440 --> 2:21:12.680 How do you feel that might play itself out. 2:21:13.760 --> 2:21:16.800 Yeah, I mean, you know, look I have I haven't 2:21:16.959 --> 2:21:19.600 seen all all of it to to wrap my head 2:21:19.600 --> 2:21:22.000 around it. But you know, look, I think if you're 2:21:22.000 --> 2:21:25.440 a team and you know, somebody doesn't want to doesn't 2:21:25.440 --> 2:21:27.320 want to play for you at that position, it's kind 2:21:27.320 --> 2:21:29.240 of a big deal. I don't know that I would 2:21:29.760 --> 2:21:31.840 you know, I don't know that I would fight City 2:21:31.840 --> 2:21:34.640 Hall on that one if someone really was adamant about 2:21:34.640 --> 2:21:38.160 not wanting to play there. So again it's it's you know, 2:21:38.280 --> 2:21:41.520 that would be kind of unique. But uh, I do 2:21:41.560 --> 2:21:45.360 think that Dion is Dion's right and smart from the 2:21:45.400 --> 2:21:49.640 standpoint that fit is incredibly important. And you know, we 2:21:49.640 --> 2:21:52.120 look at all these different quarterbacks last year, you know, 2:21:52.320 --> 2:21:55.680 just watching the you know, the Sam Darnold last year, 2:21:55.680 --> 2:21:58.240 seeing Baker Mayfield for the last couple of years, you 2:21:58.360 --> 2:22:02.840 have seen you know, where you are matters and fit matters. Uh, 2:22:02.879 --> 2:22:06.080 It's extremely important. So you know, if that's what, if 2:22:06.080 --> 2:22:08.320 that's what Dion said or did, I would totally I 2:22:08.320 --> 2:22:11.560 would totally understand his uh, you know, his reasoning for 2:22:11.760 --> 2:22:13.280 wanting to make sure that his son end up on 2:22:13.320 --> 2:22:15.520 the right spot. So that's the parent side of it, 2:22:15.600 --> 2:22:17.879 and then from the team side of it, I just 2:22:17.879 --> 2:22:19.800 don't think you. I don't think you're gonna want to 2:22:20.200 --> 2:22:22.440 bring in somebody that doesn't necessarily want to be there. 2:22:22.600 --> 2:22:25.400 So again I haven't seen the report. I haven't seen 2:22:25.400 --> 2:22:28.039 the information yet, but that would be my reaction to it. 2:22:29.680 --> 2:22:30.840 And just a quick fill up on it. 2:22:30.879 --> 2:22:33.760 Do you think maybe the dad maybe she could reconsider 2:22:33.800 --> 2:22:34.359 that position? 2:22:36.200 --> 2:22:38.320 Well, I don't think. I mean, look, Dion's is gonna 2:22:38.360 --> 2:22:40.560 you know, Dion's not the average you know, coach or 2:22:40.640 --> 2:22:42.279 dad like he knows the NFL inside. 2:22:42.320 --> 2:22:42.480 Now. 2:22:42.600 --> 2:22:45.520 I don't think that Dion would speak or say something 2:22:45.560 --> 2:22:48.400 without doing his homework and and uh and saying it 2:22:48.400 --> 2:22:50.960 with conviction. So I wouldn't want to be the person 2:22:50.959 --> 2:22:52.960 who's going to try and change Dion's mind if he's 2:22:53.360 --> 2:22:56.480 if he's said that publicly, then I know he's you know, 2:22:56.560 --> 2:22:58.680 he's done his homework on that and and I wouldn't 2:22:58.680 --> 2:23:00.720 imagine that would change. 2:23:00.959 --> 2:23:01.600 Appreciate that. 2:23:01.640 --> 2:23:02.360 Thank you sure. 2:23:04.400 --> 2:23:07.080 Next question is from Ellie May Williamson and Tennessee. 2:23:10.080 --> 2:23:10.200 Hi. 2:23:10.480 --> 2:23:13.680 Thanks for having this whole call. It's been very informative. 2:23:14.120 --> 2:23:17.000 You already mentioned the Tennessee players and how you stood 2:23:17.120 --> 2:23:20.080 on each one of them. But which one would you 2:23:20.120 --> 2:23:23.879 feel is more strong for this combine and this setup. 2:23:24.520 --> 2:23:27.760 I know you mentioned a lot and Pierce teams being 2:23:28.800 --> 2:23:31.520 not too sure about him, and then also Sampson, But 2:23:31.600 --> 2:23:34.119 what do you see from that group of six coming 2:23:34.160 --> 2:23:35.240 to coming. 2:23:35.560 --> 2:23:39.280 Well, I'm hoping Pierce does everything because he sure as 2:23:39.320 --> 2:23:42.640 heck plays explosive and fast, so I would imagine he 2:23:42.680 --> 2:23:47.800 would test extremely well. I'm you know on Samson, you know, 2:23:48.000 --> 2:23:50.199 just and talking to guys around the league and everything 2:23:50.240 --> 2:23:53.320 and are familiar with with his training and stuff that 2:23:54.320 --> 2:23:57.800 you know he's he plays extremely fast and explosive, but 2:23:57.959 --> 2:24:02.240 might not the testing might not, so you know, just 2:24:02.280 --> 2:24:03.760 in terms of him ripping off a four to three 2:24:03.840 --> 2:24:06.879 or something like that. So the one that would the 2:24:06.879 --> 2:24:08.720 one that would entice me and intrigue me the most, 2:24:08.840 --> 2:24:10.640 would would absolutely be Pierced. 2:24:11.520 --> 2:24:13.480 Okay, thank you, you're welcome. 2:24:15.000 --> 2:24:17.640 Next question is Adam West with the Saints question. 2:24:18.920 --> 2:24:20.240 Hi, DJ, thanks for doing this. 2:24:20.280 --> 2:24:25.280 Always really appreciate you man, just from kind of knowing 2:24:25.320 --> 2:24:28.080 when I know the Saints really feel and Emmer were 2:24:28.080 --> 2:24:32.360 potentially adding Will Johnson and Tatoro McMillan potentially at nine. 2:24:32.600 --> 2:24:37.120 You kind of spoke to why Will Johnson may be there, 2:24:37.120 --> 2:24:40.120 and I think prior to this season, the idea of 2:24:40.120 --> 2:24:42.000 those two players being there at nine kind of seeing 2:24:42.080 --> 2:24:47.400 Ludigrits going by like three mock drafts, but he maybe 2:24:47.440 --> 2:24:51.039 talk about you know, Will Johnson's twenty twenty three of 2:24:51.160 --> 2:24:54.880 like what he would bring as a player, and in 2:24:55.160 --> 2:24:58.800 tetaroa as I think you made the Drake London comparison 2:24:58.879 --> 2:25:00.600 is kind of what I see him as of like 2:25:00.680 --> 2:25:03.400 what he would bring to an offense if he was 2:25:03.879 --> 2:25:05.519 the pick at nine for the Saints. 2:25:06.040 --> 2:25:09.000 Yeah, I mean I again, I think that comes down 2:25:09.080 --> 2:25:11.360 to the personnel department and the coaching staff getting on 2:25:11.400 --> 2:25:13.320 the same page. The reason why I haven't had them 2:25:13.320 --> 2:25:16.400 going with a skill player is just just based off 2:25:16.440 --> 2:25:19.000 of where Kellen was coming from as a as a 2:25:19.040 --> 2:25:20.760 head coach. But you know, you get together with the 2:25:20.800 --> 2:25:23.960 personnel department there and they'll come up with the best plan. 2:25:24.120 --> 2:25:27.160 But you know, Will Will has got I mean, he 2:25:27.240 --> 2:25:29.200 is central casting for what you want a corner to 2:25:29.240 --> 2:25:32.959 look like. He is, he is tall, he's he's rangy, 2:25:33.480 --> 2:25:37.520 He's a fluid athlete, fluid mover, he's got really really 2:25:37.560 --> 2:25:40.879 good eyes, He's got excellent ball skills, So that's where 2:25:40.879 --> 2:25:43.360 you start. That's a really good foundation. And I think 2:25:43.400 --> 2:25:45.600 in twenty three I just thought there was a little 2:25:45.600 --> 2:25:49.240 more physicality to him than we saw this year. So 2:25:49.640 --> 2:25:51.920 you know, that's you know, it is what it is. 2:25:51.959 --> 2:25:53.560 And then I just thought guys got on top of 2:25:53.600 --> 2:25:55.400 him a couple times this year, and that could be 2:25:55.600 --> 2:25:58.480 just you know, it could be not necessarily have to 2:25:58.520 --> 2:26:00.440 be a speed thing, can be a focus thing. And 2:26:00.959 --> 2:26:02.840 you know, they played a lot of games the year before. 2:26:03.040 --> 2:26:06.280 Obviously the team was in a different position. You know, 2:26:06.360 --> 2:26:08.280 it wasn't as good of a team. It's all coming 2:26:08.360 --> 2:26:11.200 off of a long season. He knows, you know, he's 2:26:11.240 --> 2:26:14.080 going to be a top fifteen pick going into the year, 2:26:15.760 --> 2:26:18.400 and so you know, I can understand how maybe it 2:26:18.440 --> 2:26:21.400 didn't match what we'd seen previously. But then you get 2:26:21.480 --> 2:26:26.480 to McMillan. You know, again just mentioned him and talking 2:26:26.480 --> 2:26:30.360 about him a minute ago. The size is outstanding, the body, 2:26:30.360 --> 2:26:32.480 controlling ball skills are as good as you're going to see. 2:26:33.280 --> 2:26:35.080 There were some I didn't talk about really the negatives 2:26:35.080 --> 2:26:37.640 with him last time, but there are some times just 2:26:37.720 --> 2:26:40.080 on backside of routes. I don't really see him busting 2:26:40.120 --> 2:26:42.920 it all the time, So you know, I'd like to 2:26:42.920 --> 2:26:45.200 see that just be a little bit more consistent and 2:26:45.240 --> 2:26:49.000 competitive with each with each rep in that regard. But 2:26:50.000 --> 2:26:51.960 someone who can man, he can play above the rim 2:26:51.959 --> 2:26:53.800 in a big, big way. They'd have some fun with him, 2:26:54.360 --> 2:26:57.320 especially down there in the red area. But you know, 2:26:57.360 --> 2:26:59.400 I just I just think that it'd be curious to 2:26:59.400 --> 2:27:02.400 see we call it copycat league, people paying attention to 2:27:02.400 --> 2:27:04.960 the teams that are playing well and winning and coming 2:27:05.000 --> 2:27:06.880 off of a Super Bowl that was just dominated at 2:27:06.879 --> 2:27:09.400 the line of scrimmage, and you have the coach who 2:27:09.520 --> 2:27:12.520 was involved in that game. That's why I was leaning 2:27:12.560 --> 2:27:15.440 more towards that that side of things than a skill guy. 2:27:17.160 --> 2:27:18.600 Thank you so much, man sure. 2:27:18.680 --> 2:27:21.240 Next question is from Bleacher Reports Authentic. 2:27:22.560 --> 2:27:25.039 Hey, thanks for taking the time, DJ. So, I wanted 2:27:25.080 --> 2:27:27.600 to piggyback off of what Ryan dun leavy was talking about, 2:27:27.600 --> 2:27:30.160 where you have the New York Giants possibly passing up 2:27:30.200 --> 2:27:33.280 on Shador Sanders, and if that is a possibility, how 2:27:33.280 --> 2:27:35.840 do you see them addressing a quarterback and free agency 2:27:35.879 --> 2:27:38.000 considering that they have a coach and a general manager 2:27:38.000 --> 2:27:39.960 on the hot seat and no quarterbacks on the roster. 2:27:40.720 --> 2:27:42.840 Yeah, that's why I was just you know, that was 2:27:42.840 --> 2:27:46.880 the whole Stafford theory, you know, of you know that 2:27:46.879 --> 2:27:49.760 that's the one that that was floating around, and that's 2:27:49.760 --> 2:27:52.760 why I went that way with the with the mock draft. 2:27:52.840 --> 2:27:55.800 In terms of other options, I don't think Sam Donold's 2:27:55.840 --> 2:27:57.480 probably going to be in a hurry to run back 2:27:57.480 --> 2:28:02.520 to New York. But know that's that's the best option 2:28:02.600 --> 2:28:05.720 in terms of the talent that uh that is out 2:28:05.760 --> 2:28:08.880 there and a team that needs to you know, you 2:28:08.920 --> 2:28:10.840 mentioned it. It's kind of tricky because you want to get 2:28:10.879 --> 2:28:13.840 your quarterback of the future, but there's some there's some 2:28:13.920 --> 2:28:16.200 pressure at least from the outside, not knowing anything on 2:28:16.240 --> 2:28:18.880 the inside to uh, you know, to to have a 2:28:18.879 --> 2:28:20.879 good year next year. So you know, relying on a 2:28:20.879 --> 2:28:24.080 young guy there can be a little bit tricky, but uh, 2:28:24.720 --> 2:28:28.360 you know, the the veteran options, that's gosh, somehow, trading 2:28:28.360 --> 2:28:31.440 for Matt Stafford would be way way, uh way way 2:28:31.600 --> 2:28:33.800 up there for me in the short term, at least 2:28:34.200 --> 2:28:36.560 with Sam Darnold being I just don't see that as 2:28:36.600 --> 2:28:39.520 a uh as a possibility there you're looking at, you know, 2:28:39.600 --> 2:28:42.400 potentially Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, you know, there's a whole 2:28:42.400 --> 2:28:45.920 lot of other guys. But uh, yeah, it's not it's 2:28:46.040 --> 2:28:48.320 it's a lot of people have said this and and 2:28:48.560 --> 2:28:51.000 not just my opinion, but you know, talking to a 2:28:51.000 --> 2:28:54.080 lot of people around the league. Man, it's not coming 2:28:54.120 --> 2:28:56.240 off of a year last year we had all those quarterbacks. 2:28:56.280 --> 2:28:58.680 Sometimes it's not just you know, it's not just if 2:28:58.680 --> 2:29:00.800 you're bad, it's when you're bad. And there's just not 2:29:00.879 --> 2:29:02.320 as many of those options this year. 2:29:03.360 --> 2:29:05.240 And just secondly, I wanted to ask you about a 2:29:05.240 --> 2:29:07.400 couple of prospects here on my shoe content for the 2:29:07.480 --> 2:29:10.080 University of Maryland. So I wanted your take where these 2:29:10.120 --> 2:29:11.840 two guys might go in the draft. It would be 2:29:11.840 --> 2:29:14.400 a ty Felton and Caden Prayed through the two wide receivers. 2:29:14.640 --> 2:29:16.440 And then also just wanted to get your opinion on 2:29:16.440 --> 2:29:18.600 a save you on Williams out of at TCU. 2:29:19.200 --> 2:29:22.440 Sure I'll do SAVI on Williams. First of all, is uh, 2:29:23.000 --> 2:29:25.480 he's a fun dude to watch man, like just all 2:29:25.480 --> 2:29:27.520 the different ways that they use him, just like a 2:29:27.640 --> 2:29:31.840 jumbo athlete does the wildcat stuff, you know, plays receiver. 2:29:33.560 --> 2:29:37.560 You know, he's just he's a. He's a big, strong, athletic, 2:29:38.120 --> 2:29:41.840 physical dude, and you know it's to me it just 2:29:42.040 --> 2:29:45.959 drops more than anything else had the eight drops this year, 2:29:46.040 --> 2:29:48.400 so you know, cleaning that stuff up. But he's a 2:29:48.440 --> 2:29:52.000 fun he's a fun, fun toy to play with in 2:29:52.080 --> 2:29:53.560 terms of all the different things that he can do 2:29:53.600 --> 2:29:56.520 and how they use him. There, Uh, the Maryland guys 2:29:57.920 --> 2:30:01.160 talking about those two wide receivers. With Felton, you know, 2:30:01.360 --> 2:30:05.320 productive can play inside outside, he can you know he can. 2:30:05.480 --> 2:30:08.480 He can wall guys off in traffic, he can build speed, 2:30:08.600 --> 2:30:11.360 he's fearless working in the middle of the field. He 2:30:11.400 --> 2:30:13.199 can go up and get it and high point the football. 2:30:13.280 --> 2:30:14.800 So I thought he played a little bit bigger than 2:30:14.800 --> 2:30:20.840 his size. And then with Prayther, Prayther has that size outside, 2:30:21.040 --> 2:30:23.720 you know, wins on a lot of shallow crossers quick screens, 2:30:24.280 --> 2:30:25.920 only had one drop. I just didn't know if he 2:30:26.000 --> 2:30:27.960 really had that second gear. So I'm anxious to see 2:30:28.000 --> 2:30:30.080 him run, but does a really nice job using his 2:30:30.080 --> 2:30:32.480 body shield guys off, wall guys off with that big frame. 2:30:33.360 --> 2:30:36.199 Well what round do you foresee those guys being drafted impossibly? 2:30:36.680 --> 2:30:40.360 Yep? I had Felton his third third round again, as 2:30:40.400 --> 2:30:43.000 a big clump of those guys. Third, fourth round and 2:30:43.040 --> 2:30:46.199 then it was more fifth round for me with prayther 2:30:47.320 --> 2:30:48.640 appreciate it sure. 2:30:49.840 --> 2:30:54.240 Last few questions here Mookie Hawkins and Buffalo DJ. 2:30:54.360 --> 2:30:56.520 My guys going good. What's up man? 2:30:57.520 --> 2:31:00.760 Not much man? You know, I'll see uh tuesday up 2:31:00.800 --> 2:31:05.640 in up in Indie. Man. But Bills at thirty lots 2:31:05.640 --> 2:31:10.200 of lots of help on that defensive line, whether defensive edge, 2:31:11.160 --> 2:31:14.480 de tackle, cornerback, safety. Which route do you think that 2:31:14.520 --> 2:31:16.720 the Bills would go at pick thirty? 2:31:18.120 --> 2:31:21.280 Well, I mean they too bad. They can't go all 2:31:21.320 --> 2:31:23.240 the above, right, I mean this is this is a 2:31:23.280 --> 2:31:25.680 team that it's just got to get better on third down, 2:31:25.720 --> 2:31:27.800 get off the field, find ways to get off the field. 2:31:27.840 --> 2:31:30.840 So I'm always gonna lean front to back versus back 2:31:30.840 --> 2:31:33.600 to front, so you know, looking at options for them 2:31:34.400 --> 2:31:37.360 they can get after the quarterback and you know, make 2:31:37.360 --> 2:31:41.560 a difference from that standpoint, that's that's the direction that 2:31:41.600 --> 2:31:43.400 I would go. So if I'm pulling up, I've talked 2:31:43.400 --> 2:31:46.720 about Zaruku is kind of an interesting one that's talked 2:31:46.720 --> 2:31:49.160 a ton about him from BC. Some of it just 2:31:49.200 --> 2:31:51.560 knows how to win and it can really rush the quarterback, 2:31:52.520 --> 2:31:55.680 You've got more, you know, Shamar Stewart gives you more 2:31:55.680 --> 2:31:58.600 of that upside, a little bit raw, but just big time, 2:31:58.640 --> 2:32:02.440 big time explosiveness. You've you've got the options to trade 2:32:02.480 --> 2:32:04.720 back a little bit if you want. And now you 2:32:04.840 --> 2:32:06.879 kind of get into like the Land and Jackson area 2:32:07.680 --> 2:32:09.959 out of Arkansas. So those are you know, some of 2:32:09.959 --> 2:32:13.240 those edge rushers the DT's. I love Derek Harmon from 2:32:13.240 --> 2:32:16.600 Oregon as a fit there, someone who can who can disrupt, 2:32:16.680 --> 2:32:18.320 run and pass play on the other side of the 2:32:18.400 --> 2:32:20.640 line of scrimmage. I think I think there's a chance 2:32:20.640 --> 2:32:23.160 he's there. That would be, uh, that would be a 2:32:23.160 --> 2:32:24.160 fun way to add to their mix. 2:32:24.800 --> 2:32:28.119 Absolutely, And on the flip side of Bill's don't really 2:32:28.120 --> 2:32:30.240 need too much on the offensive side, but that I 2:32:30.280 --> 2:32:33.760 think they do need a playmaker. But my guy Authentic 2:32:33.879 --> 2:32:36.760 mentioned it first. How would a guy such as a 2:32:36.840 --> 2:32:39.840 Savedan Wims fit in this Bill's offense? 2:32:40.680 --> 2:32:43.920 Yeah, yeah, I think you're looking at like, you know, 2:32:44.040 --> 2:32:47.640 Debo's a little bit of the of the uh, you know, 2:32:47.959 --> 2:32:50.200 path that you would try and follow there. He's not 2:32:50.360 --> 2:32:52.280 refined like you're gonna have to be patient, like you're 2:32:52.280 --> 2:32:53.840 gonna just try and find ways to get on the ball. 2:32:53.879 --> 2:32:55.879 Right now, we're gonna give him a reverse. We're gonna 2:32:55.879 --> 2:32:58.480 get him a bubble. You know, We're gonna let him 2:32:58.480 --> 2:33:00.440 do some you know, if you want to take a 2:33:00.440 --> 2:33:02.840 little off Josh. I'm sure Josh probably end up getting 2:33:02.840 --> 2:33:04.400 a new contract here before too long. You want to 2:33:04.400 --> 2:33:05.960 take a little bit of that off him, you can 2:33:05.959 --> 2:33:07.880 give him some reps back there down the goal line. 2:33:07.920 --> 2:33:10.440 Let him take that abuse as a runner. But in 2:33:10.560 --> 2:33:13.080 terms of developing him and polishing him up as a receiver, 2:33:13.160 --> 2:33:15.680 that's going to require a little bit of patience. All right, 2:33:15.720 --> 2:33:17.800 my god, I appreciate you. Save travels. Thank you. 2:33:19.320 --> 2:33:22.240 All right, we're going back to Mexico here, Oscar Cleariga. 2:33:25.840 --> 2:33:28.560 Hello, thank you very much. Hell up from Mexico, Daniel, 2:33:28.920 --> 2:33:32.640 nice to see you again. You see topic you talked 2:33:32.680 --> 2:33:36.200 early in This is Soon Cold about the connection between 2:33:36.280 --> 2:33:39.960 Chip Kelly and Dylan Gabriel. If I don't remember wrong, 2:33:40.520 --> 2:33:42.879 wasn't Jucla. 2:33:42.520 --> 2:33:44.520 That's where that's right. He went there and then was 2:33:44.560 --> 2:33:46.879 only there for a couple of weeks. Chip left and 2:33:46.920 --> 2:33:49.400 then Dylan Gabriel ended up transferring to Oregon. So I knew, 2:33:49.480 --> 2:33:52.039 I knew it was deep in the recesses of my mind, 2:33:52.080 --> 2:33:53.840 I knew there was the connection there. Thank you for 2:33:53.879 --> 2:33:54.640 bringing that to light. 2:33:55.240 --> 2:33:58.000 Now, thanks to you, and I have a couple of questions. 2:33:58.120 --> 2:34:02.080 The first one what is your opinion about Jalen Milroe, 2:34:02.120 --> 2:34:04.680 the QB of Alabama. And the other one, you know 2:34:04.800 --> 2:34:07.760 here in Mexico we have a great fan base the 2:34:07.840 --> 2:34:11.480 Dallas Cowboys and the Pittsrooll Steelers. How looks to you 2:34:11.720 --> 2:34:14.920 the scenario for this couple of teams, the Petrol Steelers 2:34:14.920 --> 2:34:17.520 and the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you very much, have a great. 2:34:17.400 --> 2:34:21.200 Date, Thank you very much. With Milroe, again, we talked 2:34:21.200 --> 2:34:23.600 about him just a little bit earlier there. You know 2:34:23.680 --> 2:34:26.280 as a as a runner, he's the elite, elite, elite, 2:34:26.320 --> 2:34:28.200 like that's the best trait that anybody has in this 2:34:28.320 --> 2:34:31.760 quarterback class, is his ability as a runner. Just going 2:34:31.840 --> 2:34:34.280 to take some time and patience and development with him 2:34:34.640 --> 2:34:38.320 in the past game, you know, just in terms of again, 2:34:38.400 --> 2:34:40.240 a lot of it's mechanically just cleaning some of those 2:34:40.280 --> 2:34:43.120 things up, kitchen cleats in the ground, et cetera. But 2:34:43.920 --> 2:34:46.080 a lot to work with there, and it's again you're 2:34:46.120 --> 2:34:49.040 going to have to have a real plan there. I've mentioned. 2:34:49.120 --> 2:34:50.959 I think the Steelers were one of the teams you 2:34:50.959 --> 2:34:53.920 were mentioning. If the Steelers did decide to resign Justin 2:34:53.959 --> 2:34:57.359 Fields and make him their quarterback going forward, I wouldn't 2:34:57.680 --> 2:34:59.840 I wouldn't mind Mary and Milroe up with him. You know, 2:35:00.080 --> 2:35:02.640 you got him Milroe potentially in like the third round, 2:35:02.959 --> 2:35:05.560 and you want to you want to just become a physical, 2:35:05.840 --> 2:35:07.840 you know, pounded team to go out and get a 2:35:07.920 --> 2:35:10.280 dynamic runner in this draft, which you can find. I know, 2:35:10.360 --> 2:35:12.440 Naji's a free agent. I like to see him get 2:35:12.440 --> 2:35:16.199 a little more explosive in the backfield, but having having 2:35:16.240 --> 2:35:19.200 Milroe to kind of develop behind Fields would be kind 2:35:19.200 --> 2:35:21.760 of fun, just to really go all in on that approach. 2:35:22.160 --> 2:35:24.800 And then with the Cowboys, you know what they're gonna do. 2:35:25.560 --> 2:35:28.360 This is this is uh, you know more than anything 2:35:28.360 --> 2:35:30.600 else with them draft wise is one thing. But a 2:35:30.640 --> 2:35:32.600 lot of people in the league are curious about the 2:35:32.600 --> 2:35:34.360 Micah Parsons thing. You know, are they going to pay 2:35:34.440 --> 2:35:37.160 him as it's going to get done? What happens with him? Uh? 2:35:37.200 --> 2:35:39.039 That could go a long way and determining what they 2:35:39.080 --> 2:35:41.880 look like defensively, but they they were pretty god awful 2:35:41.920 --> 2:35:44.640 last year on that side. Of the ball, so you know, 2:35:44.720 --> 2:35:47.440 finding some help up front O digazuas as a free 2:35:47.440 --> 2:35:50.640 agent as well, so defensive tackle and a very rich 2:35:50.720 --> 2:35:54.480 defensive tackle draft. That was that was a direction I 2:35:54.480 --> 2:35:55.320 could see them looking. 2:35:56.080 --> 2:35:57.800 Okay, perfect, Thank you very much. 2:35:57.959 --> 2:35:59.119 Have a great day, you. 2:35:59.120 --> 2:36:02.400 Too, hey, last two questions. This man has been very patient. 2:36:02.520 --> 2:36:04.080 Zinny Abraham you're up. 2:36:05.080 --> 2:36:06.840 Hey, DJ how you doing good? 2:36:06.879 --> 2:36:08.160 Good to see you, buddy, to. 2:36:08.120 --> 2:36:13.200 See you too, man Hey. Quick update audible. As of 2:36:13.240 --> 2:36:16.600 five hours ago, BMW Sports and Sporting News reported that 2:36:16.680 --> 2:36:20.760 Dion Sanders himself said that the Titans, the Browns, and 2:36:20.920 --> 2:36:24.000 the Giants are the only ones he wants to do 2:36:24.160 --> 2:36:27.720 to talk to. Now, okay, yeah, now, three bagger question. 2:36:27.840 --> 2:36:31.520 First of all, Browns fans have been screaming, Hey, some 2:36:31.600 --> 2:36:35.720 of them they want Mailson Graham Mason Graham as the 2:36:35.720 --> 2:36:38.640 two pick because they want to pease my moles Garrett. 2:36:38.640 --> 2:36:41.280 I want your thoughts on that. And then for the 2:36:41.840 --> 2:36:44.800 I public prefer the called the Oakland Las Vegas Raiders, 2:36:44.800 --> 2:36:49.760 as you know, uh why not Ashton gentry falling to 2:36:49.879 --> 2:36:54.280 that place your thoughts. By the way, one more thing 2:36:54.480 --> 2:36:56.879 today is Woodson's birthday. 2:36:57.200 --> 2:37:02.080 Go Bears. What team is going to Oh, he can 2:37:02.120 --> 2:37:04.520 go to my team. I wish I had one. I 2:37:04.920 --> 2:37:07.920 like him. He's he's one of my guys here in 2:37:07.959 --> 2:37:10.520 this draft class. So I he'll find his way somewhere 2:37:10.520 --> 2:37:12.879 in the third round, fourth round. But he's a good 2:37:12.879 --> 2:37:17.480 player when it comes to uh genty you were saying 2:37:17.520 --> 2:37:20.520 there with the Raiders right if genty there? Yeah, the 2:37:21.160 --> 2:37:23.160 only thing I would just be is, is you know, 2:37:23.280 --> 2:37:25.560 is this team ready to uh to take off right now? 2:37:25.560 --> 2:37:28.320 Because I'm just not big on using using up what 2:37:28.440 --> 2:37:31.080 are limited carries running back has in his life span 2:37:31.280 --> 2:37:33.320 on a team that's not ready to win right now. 2:37:33.600 --> 2:37:35.360 I almost would rather kind of build up the rest 2:37:35.360 --> 2:37:38.080 of the infrastructure and then kind of drop the quarterback 2:37:38.240 --> 2:37:41.080 or to drop the electric running back in there at 2:37:41.080 --> 2:37:42.879 that point in time, so that every single one of 2:37:42.879 --> 2:37:45.280 his carries is helping us you know where we want 2:37:45.320 --> 2:37:45.560 to go? 2:37:45.959 --> 2:37:49.320 Are you saying then that Pete Carroll is not equipped 2:37:49.320 --> 2:37:50.600 to make the team ready? 2:37:51.840 --> 2:37:54.560 I think I think where their roster is presently and 2:37:54.600 --> 2:37:58.480 where there's three playoff teams inside their own division, that 2:37:58.600 --> 2:38:01.480 they are Pete Carroll. I love Pete Carroll and he's 2:38:01.480 --> 2:38:04.119 a good coach with a winning pedigree. And I'm excited 2:38:04.120 --> 2:38:07.560 to see what spy Tech does there. Who's is a 2:38:07.560 --> 2:38:09.840 good personnel guy. I do not think they are one 2:38:09.840 --> 2:38:12.280 off season away from climbing the mountain inside their division. 2:38:12.360 --> 2:38:13.680 So I have them go to the super Bowl. 2:38:14.040 --> 2:38:16.440 Oh the Raiders, Well there you go from your lips 2:38:16.440 --> 2:38:18.400 to God's ears. My brother in law is a Raiders fan, 2:38:18.440 --> 2:38:20.760 and he'll be very excited to hear that. Thank you. 2:38:21.879 --> 2:38:25.480 But and then with with Mason Graham, you know, to 2:38:25.560 --> 2:38:28.800 me with Cleveland at two, you know, the quarterback thing 2:38:29.240 --> 2:38:32.120 is just I flirted with the idea of giving them 2:38:32.160 --> 2:38:34.160 somebody other than a quarterback, and I did it in 2:38:34.200 --> 2:38:37.400 the first mock draft, and i'd heard, you know, consideration 2:38:37.600 --> 2:38:40.840 with you know, with Cousins is a is a possibility 2:38:40.840 --> 2:38:44.120 there because the familiarity with him, as well as the 2:38:44.360 --> 2:38:46.560 price tag, which would be next to nothing, similar to 2:38:46.600 --> 2:38:49.480 what we had last year in Pittsburgh with Russell Wilson 2:38:49.840 --> 2:38:53.880 with another team you know, paying the bill. But gosh, 2:38:54.000 --> 2:38:56.560 I mean, they've they're one of there. They're one of 2:38:56.560 --> 2:38:58.720 those teams that I just think that if cam Ward 2:38:58.800 --> 2:39:00.360 was there, I just have I would have a time 2:39:00.360 --> 2:39:01.680 thinking Cleveland would pass on him. 2:39:01.840 --> 2:39:03.720 I'm going a sure take on this. I'd ask you 2:39:04.200 --> 2:39:08.520 why is Jamis Winston not better than Kirk Cousins given 2:39:08.680 --> 2:39:11.200 the season Cousins down here had down here in Atlanta 2:39:11.920 --> 2:39:15.880 and the fact that, hey, look, offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey 2:39:15.879 --> 2:39:19.680 got fired and he messed up his footwork all with 2:39:19.800 --> 2:39:21.680 season long. It was just awesome, awful what he did 2:39:21.720 --> 2:39:24.640 with Winston and Watson and the other quarterbacks. And he 2:39:24.640 --> 2:39:26.920 should have got fired. So I mean, how can you 2:39:27.040 --> 2:39:30.680 justify bereing Cousins, you know, to the Browns. 2:39:30.840 --> 2:39:33.920 I'm just curious, YEP. I would say because Kirk Cousins. 2:39:34.200 --> 2:39:38.160 I would say Jamis Winston's best season was probably would 2:39:38.280 --> 2:39:41.119 you know, Kirk Cousins has probably had seven seasons better 2:39:41.160 --> 2:39:43.400 than his best season. And I would say last year, 2:39:43.520 --> 2:39:45.720 Kirk Cousins was not coming off of a healthy year. 2:39:46.560 --> 2:39:49.440 Kirk Cousins couldn't move at all. They did. It was 2:39:49.440 --> 2:39:51.360 a terrible fit. It was a terrible match. It didn't 2:39:51.400 --> 2:39:51.800 work out. 2:39:52.360 --> 2:39:55.000 James was The best year was twenty twenty one under 2:39:55.040 --> 2:39:58.600 Sean Payton. Fourteen touchdowns, three interceptions. That was better than 2:39:58.640 --> 2:40:00.000 anything Kirk Cousins ever posted. 2:40:01.320 --> 2:40:04.840 Gotcha, I'll pull up Kirk Ki. I want to do 2:40:05.000 --> 2:40:07.360 right now. But I can promise you Kirk Cousins has 2:40:07.360 --> 2:40:10.040 had has had much better seasons than fourteen touchdowns. 2:40:10.879 --> 2:40:11.119 Drink? 2:40:11.160 --> 2:40:14.120 How's that? What's up? Okay, we're going to get to. 2:40:14.120 --> 2:40:17.440 The last question here, but I appreciate that, Zenny. Last 2:40:17.480 --> 2:40:21.800 question Darnell's Salins from Playmaker's Blog. 2:40:24.800 --> 2:40:28.120 Hello, Dan, thank you for doing this. My question is 2:40:28.160 --> 2:40:30.800 about the Rams. I see in your latest March Drugs 2:40:30.800 --> 2:40:34.520 you had Darius Alexander from Toledo at the twenty six spot. 2:40:34.959 --> 2:40:37.280 Do you see him as a as a fit for 2:40:37.440 --> 2:40:39.960 the Rams or do you see the Rams can possibly 2:40:40.040 --> 2:40:41.120 go offense with that pick? 2:40:41.959 --> 2:40:45.160 Yeah, Darius Alexander. You know, he is a little bit older, 2:40:45.240 --> 2:40:47.920 which we'll see some teams care about that more than others. 2:40:48.400 --> 2:40:53.119 But just in terms of body type, like range, explosive, 2:40:53.320 --> 2:40:55.800 that's kind of what the The Rams have got a 2:40:55.840 --> 2:40:59.400 bunch of explosive defenders, and they've they've added to that bunch. 2:40:59.480 --> 2:41:01.720 It's I think it's the best young defensive line in 2:41:01.760 --> 2:41:04.000 the NFL. And I you know, I was kind of 2:41:04.040 --> 2:41:07.080 just and maybe some of it's the newness of watching 2:41:07.120 --> 2:41:09.160 the Super Bowl and just seeing the waves of guys 2:41:09.160 --> 2:41:12.200 that Philly had, But you know, man, you just go 2:41:12.280 --> 2:41:17.400 get another twitchy, explosive, dynamic guy. I've kind of wrote 2:41:17.440 --> 2:41:19.760 down on my paper when I was watching defensive linemen 2:41:19.840 --> 2:41:23.200 this year, the ones I circled back on after the 2:41:23.200 --> 2:41:25.840 Super Bowl was over, and I just wrote the word 2:41:26.200 --> 2:41:28.960 like I just wrote vet vet on my sheet, and 2:41:28.959 --> 2:41:31.400 I just said, you know, look at your notes on 2:41:31.440 --> 2:41:34.840 a player and if you see the words, you know, violent, explosive, twitchy, 2:41:34.959 --> 2:41:37.440 over and over and over again, like looking for vets, 2:41:38.080 --> 2:41:39.840 like those are the guys that I think you want, 2:41:39.879 --> 2:41:42.800 because that's what we just saw win the Super Bowl. 2:41:42.920 --> 2:41:45.879 So that's why that's why I had that fit there. 2:41:45.879 --> 2:41:47.520 And if they were going to go in another direction, 2:41:48.000 --> 2:41:49.160 you know, there could be a little bit of a 2:41:49.200 --> 2:41:51.840 makeover there in their receiver room, so you know, a 2:41:51.879 --> 2:41:55.039 Mecca Buca if he were to get there, I think 2:41:55.080 --> 2:41:56.800 that one makes a lot of sense for him. He'd 2:41:56.800 --> 2:42:00.320 be a great fit and someone who would just be 2:42:00.400 --> 2:42:02.320 plug and play for a team that's ready to win 2:42:02.400 --> 2:42:04.120 right now. And I would say the same thing for 2:42:04.200 --> 2:42:07.600 Matthew Golden. So those would be guys I would love 2:42:07.640 --> 2:42:10.280 for the Rams. Thank you, DG. 2:42:10.400 --> 2:42:12.879 I appreciate it. Two hours and forty five minutes. You 2:42:12.920 --> 2:42:15.840 have certainly done your communications duty for today, so thank 2:42:15.879 --> 2:42:20.120 you and for everybody that's still on. A transcript and 2:42:20.280 --> 2:42:23.000 video of today's call will be posted later on the 2:42:23.240 --> 2:42:26.440 NFL Media account on x so check that out. And 2:42:26.520 --> 2:42:28.800 if you need anything from the communications apartment, just send 2:42:28.840 --> 2:42:30.880 me an email and we'll get it to you. 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