1
00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,240
Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

2
00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,400
Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ here.

3
00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,360
Speaker 2: It is that time of year. We're getting ready to

4
00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,520
Speaker 2: head towards the scouting Combine in Indianapolis, and one of

5
00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,560
Speaker 2: the traditions is prior to getting on a plane and

6
00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,720
Speaker 2: heading out there, do a conference call with a lot

7
00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,400
Speaker 2: of media members where just fielding a lot of questions

8
00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,000
Speaker 2: about players, about teams, all sorts of draft conversation. It's

9
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,120
Speaker 2: something that we've done for a long time, and a

10
00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920
Speaker 2: few years back we realized, hey, won't we just dump

11
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,160
Speaker 2: that into the podcast. You guys can hear it because

12
00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,800
Speaker 2: so many different topics are touched on during the call.

13
00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,680
Speaker 2: So that's what we've got for you today. Is is

14
00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,800
Speaker 2: some cut ups here from my conference call with the

15
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,559
Speaker 2: media ahead of the NFL Scouting Combine. Hope you enjoy it.

16
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,360
Speaker 2: It's chuck full a goodies. Trust me, I'm excited about

17
00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,840
Speaker 2: this draft. It is. It's a starter's draft, is how

18
00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,440
Speaker 2: I would phrase it. You know, going through and watching

19
00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,320
Speaker 2: all these guys combine and talking to a bunch of

20
00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,000
Speaker 2: people around the league. Okay, some positions maybe don't have

21
00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,920
Speaker 2: that superstar that we have had in years past. But

22
00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,080
Speaker 2: we do have a boatload of starters, particularly the defensive line,

23
00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of really, really good players. So excited about it.

24
00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,759
Speaker 2: Looking forward to seeing these guys in person and indy,

25
00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,720
Speaker 2: and look forward to your questions.

26
00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,800
Speaker 3: Great, thanks DJ. We will now begin the Q and

27
00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,839
Speaker 3: a portion of today's call. Use the raised hand function

28
00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,240
Speaker 3: to get in the queue to ask a question. We're

29
00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,640
Speaker 3: going to start with Jim Wyatt of the Tennessee and Jim,

30
00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,840
Speaker 3: you can ask your question.

31
00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,640
Speaker 4: Now Tennessee Titans dot Com. Yeah, I appreciate you having me.

32
00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you having me leading off with the

33
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280
Speaker 5: number one pick too, Daniel, how you doing.

34
00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,160
Speaker 6: Appreciate your time?

35
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,520
Speaker 2: You earned it, buddy, you earned you earned the first

36
00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,280
Speaker 2: question here.

37
00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,680
Speaker 5: So I noticed you've got Abdul Carter as your top prospect.

38
00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,960
Speaker 5: I notice you've got the Titans taken him at number

39
00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,240
Speaker 5: one in your initial mock.

40
00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,000
Speaker 2: Is he good enough?

41
00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,800
Speaker 5: Did you just stick there and pick or you look

42
00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,320
Speaker 5: to trade and if and to kind of go along

43
00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,200
Speaker 5: with that same question, how much interest? How much action

44
00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,440
Speaker 5: do you think they'll get with the potential trade at one?

45
00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,799
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't heard much buzz about action at this

46
00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,200
Speaker 2: point in time. Usually the combine, you know, as you know,

47
00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,640
Speaker 2: is when that could pick up a little bit and

48
00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,280
Speaker 2: you'll start hearing some buzz. If somebody falls in love

49
00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,840
Speaker 2: with the quarterback, that's where the trades happen, and that

50
00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,640
Speaker 2: would be you know, that will be interesting because I

51
00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,040
Speaker 2: look at them and to me, I think there's really

52
00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,440
Speaker 2: a couple options. I think it's three players. I think

53
00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,320
Speaker 2: it's Abdul Carter. I think it's Travis Hunter or cam Ward.

54
00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,880
Speaker 2: I think you're deciding between those three players, and then

55
00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,840
Speaker 2: the fourth option is the trade. But to me, if

56
00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,799
Speaker 2: I'm Tennessee, I'm not going past three unless I get

57
00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,919
Speaker 2: an enormous haul and I don't think. I don't think

58
00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,640
Speaker 2: you're going to get that in this draft. So to me,

59
00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,440
Speaker 2: I think that's what their decision is going to come

60
00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,160
Speaker 2: down to. I think, you know, it depends on what

61
00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,120
Speaker 2: you're looking for. A very similar grade on Abdul Carter

62
00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,080
Speaker 2: and Travis Hunter. I have Abdul Carter a little bit

63
00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,560
Speaker 2: higher than him, and it's such a premier position, and

64
00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,600
Speaker 2: I think when you look at the pieces already on

65
00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,120
Speaker 2: that defensive line and you go out and you get

66
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,080
Speaker 2: Abdul Carter. I think you've got a chance to have

67
00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,560
Speaker 2: one of the best units in the league. So that's

68
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,520
Speaker 2: a good foundation to build off of. But they need

69
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,760
Speaker 2: to do their homework on cam Ord and if they

70
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,160
Speaker 2: feel confident and comfortable with him and they feel like

71
00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,240
Speaker 2: he can be their guy going forward, I don't have

72
00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have any issue whatsoever if they decided that

73
00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,040
Speaker 2: was going to be the direction they went.

74
00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,600
Speaker 6: Thank you, Daniel, Appreciate you guys.

75
00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:34,920
Speaker 7: Yep.

76
00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,560
Speaker 3: Thanks. Next question is from d Orlando Ledbetter of the

77
00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,920
Speaker 3: Atlanta Journal Constitution.

78
00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, Dj, you know, how does this group of fourteen George,

79
00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,320
Speaker 8: I want to go fourteen, but Starks is the one

80
00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,640
Speaker 8: that's interesting, you know, perhaps for the facts at fifteen,

81
00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,280
Speaker 8: but maybe while Boker, Mical Williams and starts. How does

82
00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 8: this group look and project into the first round here?

83
00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they got a boatload of dudes, so you

84
00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,480
Speaker 2: know when I I'll just go through those top three

85
00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:19,440
Speaker 2: guys and yeah, Jalen Walker, he's one of my favorite

86
00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,919
Speaker 2: players to study. You know, he's got the versatility to

87
00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,000
Speaker 2: play off the ball. On the ball, I think he's

88
00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,800
Speaker 2: got a chance to be a special pass rusher. I

89
00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,559
Speaker 2: don't know if we're going to see him do everything

90
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,120
Speaker 2: in Indianapolish. I know he'd been nursing some things, but

91
00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 2: I anticipate when you see him run. If he does

92
00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,760
Speaker 2: decide to run, he can run in the four fours

93
00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,080
Speaker 2: like he's got legit, legit explosive. First, he plays with

94
00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,680
Speaker 2: a ton of energy. He's a tone setter. The thing

95
00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,440
Speaker 2: I love about him is, you know, okay, I see

96
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,440
Speaker 2: he plays with energy and passion. He plays fast, he's physical.

97
00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,839
Speaker 2: And then when you talk to the coaches at Georgia

98
00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,599
Speaker 2: and they say, like, this guy is like rare off

99
00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,039
Speaker 2: the charts in tangibles, you know, leadership. Uh, he took

100
00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,280
Speaker 2: over a couple of games that the Texas game at Texas,

101
00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,800
Speaker 2: you know that was that was a statement there. So

102
00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,120
Speaker 2: I think he's, you know, he's a lock to go

103
00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,920
Speaker 2: in the top ten. Michael Williams is gosh. I just

104
00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,760
Speaker 2: wish we could have seen him healthy. You know, if

105
00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't get hurt in that Clemson game and we

106
00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,280
Speaker 2: see him at full strength, I think we're you know,

107
00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about him as another you know, top ten

108
00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,960
Speaker 2: lock who's got a lot of freaky qualities to him.

109
00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,279
Speaker 2: Freaky traits to him. He can really get off the ball.

110
00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,880
Speaker 2: He's got, you know, a lot of power and violence

111
00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,320
Speaker 2: as a rusher. He can set the edge. It's just

112
00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,520
Speaker 2: a production hasn't been great, but that's because the guy

113
00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,839
Speaker 2: wasn't wasn't healthy all year long, and they still roll

114
00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,560
Speaker 2: guys through there. So I think the the Trayvon Walker,

115
00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,680
Speaker 2: you know, experience and seeing how he's continued to develop

116
00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,000
Speaker 2: with the Jags, I think that's you know, when it's

117
00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,560
Speaker 2: all said and done, I will be more surprised than

118
00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,359
Speaker 2: not if he's if he's not all the way up

119
00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,599
Speaker 2: there in the top ten. And then Starks is a

120
00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,839
Speaker 2: is an intriguing one because you notice in when he

121
00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,120
Speaker 2: was younger and kind of like popped on the scene,

122
00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,760
Speaker 2: and man, he's he's such an easy mover, like a

123
00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,720
Speaker 2: fluid athlete. He just didn't make as many plays this year.

124
00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,840
Speaker 2: You know, he made the big pick, a big time

125
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,680
Speaker 2: athletic interception down the field in the Clemson game, and

126
00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,799
Speaker 2: then after that just didn't make a ton of plays.

127
00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,040
Speaker 2: But real reliable. He's an obviously really smooth athlete, takes

128
00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,120
Speaker 2: really good angles, you know, gets guys on the ground.

129
00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,560
Speaker 2: I like the fact that he's young. I think his

130
00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,599
Speaker 2: best football is still ahead of him, and I like

131
00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,400
Speaker 2: the fact that he has you know, safety nickel flex

132
00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,359
Speaker 2: It can do a lot of different things. So to me,

133
00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,279
Speaker 2: I think it'll be uh, you know, it'll be interesting

134
00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,800
Speaker 2: to see how he works out and how he tests.

135
00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,719
Speaker 2: But he's you know, he's right there to me, more

136
00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,760
Speaker 2: so in the back half of the first half than

137
00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,080
Speaker 2: the first half of the first round.

138
00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,599
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot. Next course, thanks Ryan, Ryan Dunn Levy

139
00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,800
Speaker 3: of the New York Post.

140
00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,279
Speaker 9: Hey, Daniel, can you hear me?

141
00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,160
Speaker 2: Yep? I got you, man. Thanks for doing this.

142
00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,640
Speaker 10: We need some franchise quarterbacks in New York Giants and Jets.

143
00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,839
Speaker 10: Giants and Jets, you mentioned cam as a possibility for

144
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,360
Speaker 10: number one for the Titans, but not Shador, which makes

145
00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240
Speaker 10: me think you think there's a significant gap between them.

146
00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,880
Speaker 10: And then you also have the Giants passing on Shador

147
00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,840
Speaker 10: at three with all the buzz. I mean, Shador obviously

148
00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,120
Speaker 10: thinks he's going to the Giants with his cleats and whatnot.

149
00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,280
Speaker 10: What do you think in the top two quarterbacks, the

150
00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,840
Speaker 10: separation and their matches for the Giants and Jets.

151
00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I first watched the quarterbacks, I stacked him

152
00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600
Speaker 2: right next to each other, and they're totally different in

153
00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,240
Speaker 2: terms of their strengths and weaknesses. The more that I've done,

154
00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,040
Speaker 2: the more I've kind of created some separation, and that'll,

155
00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,200
Speaker 2: you know, be reflected when the Top fifty comes out

156
00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,280
Speaker 2: next week, the updated Top fifty. I like Shador. I

157
00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,400
Speaker 2: think Shador is you know, when you look at the

158
00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:53,280
Speaker 2: things he does really well, the accuracy, anticipation, toughness, like

159
00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,960
Speaker 2: he'll you know, he just keeps getting up after taking

160
00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,559
Speaker 2: a beating. But you know, some of the other things

161
00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,600
Speaker 2: that Cam has he doesn't have. It's a little bit

162
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120
Speaker 2: more twitch in his body. He's got a more live arm.

163
00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,200
Speaker 2: I think he's more equipped to play in that division,

164
00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,040
Speaker 2: in that in that stadium, in that environment that you're

165
00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,120
Speaker 2: gonna get with weather. I think Schador makes more sense,

166
00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,120
Speaker 2: just as you know, relying a little bit more as

167
00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,760
Speaker 2: a touch thrower than a power thrower. I think he

168
00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,840
Speaker 2: makes more sense. You know, when you look at the

169
00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,480
Speaker 2: Saints make sense to me. The Raiders make sense to me,

170
00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,920
Speaker 2: so more so about fit than anything else. When it

171
00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,280
Speaker 2: comes to those guys, you know, with the you know,

172
00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,640
Speaker 2: with the Giants not taking one in a mock draft,

173
00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,520
Speaker 2: I always like to just run through different scenarios and

174
00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,480
Speaker 2: you know what you're hearing, Okay, if this happens, then

175
00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,760
Speaker 2: then where do we go from from here? The mock drafts,

176
00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,319
Speaker 2: as you get through free agency, you know they're gonna

177
00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,240
Speaker 2: it'll crystallize a little bit more. But there has been

178
00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,720
Speaker 2: a lot of chatter in talking to guys around the league,

179
00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,200
Speaker 2: you know, the Stafford stuff. I mean, I don't know

180
00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,920
Speaker 2: if there's legs to it, but I know that it

181
00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,160
Speaker 2: has got a lot of people in personnel departments and

182
00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,360
Speaker 2: general managers intrigued in seeing what's going to transpire there

183
00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,280
Speaker 2: with with him and the Rams. And the fact that

184
00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,120
Speaker 2: that they didn't just come out and say he's not

185
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,560
Speaker 2: going anywhere has led people to believe that that's a possibility.

186
00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,800
Speaker 2: And when I looked at the Giants and you look

187
00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,040
Speaker 2: at head coach and general manager, there's there's some pressure there.

188
00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,080
Speaker 2: You need to get this thing going, especially after the

189
00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,720
Speaker 2: team and your division just won the Super Bowl. So

190
00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,559
Speaker 2: I looked at that and I am sitting here thinking, man,

191
00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,480
Speaker 2: you talk about turning around, you know, some excitement here

192
00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,280
Speaker 2: in that market, and you trot out there Week one

193
00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 2: and you've got you know, Matthew Stafford throwing the ball

194
00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600
Speaker 2: to Malik Neighbors. You've got him, you know, looking at

195
00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,079
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter getting some snaps on the offensive side of

196
00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,800
Speaker 2: the ball. You've got who knows what else they can

197
00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,120
Speaker 2: do with the with the money they have and free agency,

198
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,439
Speaker 2: and it is Cooper Cup.

199
00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:46,680
Speaker 11: You know.

200
00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,360
Speaker 2: Part of that is that a package deal with him

201
00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,800
Speaker 2: and Stafford. So that was my mind. That was kind

202
00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,000
Speaker 2: of where I was going in my fantasy land as

203
00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,160
Speaker 2: we got to that mock draft.

204
00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,960
Speaker 3: Next question is from Nate Davis of USA Today.

205
00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,680
Speaker 12: Nate, Hey, DJ, I wanted to just you're good at

206
00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,520
Speaker 12: synopsizing guys from from certain schools. It seems like this

207
00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,959
Speaker 12: year maybe we have more on the quality side from Michigan.

208
00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,120
Speaker 12: Not the same quantity as last year, but just thought

209
00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,160
Speaker 12: maybe if you could have some of those guys up

210
00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:15,560
Speaker 12: for us.

211
00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,959
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I'll rip through a couple of them.

212
00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:18,160
Speaker 4: Here.

213
00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,200
Speaker 2: There's a it's a good group. Mason Graham. Gosh, he's

214
00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,520
Speaker 2: so fun. I watched him on tape and I fell

215
00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,840
Speaker 2: in love with him, and then I got a chance

216
00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400
Speaker 2: to go to their game against Oregon, and I you know,

217
00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,560
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of personnel guys and GMS down on

218
00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,480
Speaker 2: the field and we're walking down there and I see

219
00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,400
Speaker 2: Mason Graham walk by, and of course he's next to

220
00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,240
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant's teammate, who looks like, you know, he's a

221
00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,240
Speaker 2: cartoon character, like he's an Adonis, how big he is.

222
00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,959
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at Mason Graham and body type, and

223
00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, gosh, maybe I need to maybe i need

224
00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,280
Speaker 2: to adjust my grade. I think maybe I'm just too

225
00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,880
Speaker 2: high on this guy. And then I proceeded to watch

226
00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,280
Speaker 2: the game and I was like, nope, nope, he's he's

227
00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,400
Speaker 2: just really really good. So I hope people don't overthink

228
00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,920
Speaker 2: it with him as we get to the spring and

229
00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,840
Speaker 2: and kind of the further we get away from football.

230
00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,400
Speaker 2: But he's got crazy elite leverage, balance and instincts his

231
00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, you can see there's a wrestling background there.

232
00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,640
Speaker 2: He's just never on the ground. He gets underneath guys.

233
00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,920
Speaker 2: I just wrote down when I was looking at my notes,

234
00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,240
Speaker 2: I had block destruction written down so many different times.

235
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,360
Speaker 2: He's just a real aggressive player who's got you know,

236
00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,880
Speaker 2: instincts and and can dominate the game against the run.

237
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,400
Speaker 2: And I think has more to offer as a pass

238
00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,520
Speaker 2: rusher Lovelin. You know, I think it's you know, I

239
00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,000
Speaker 2: think some teams are going to have him as a

240
00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,080
Speaker 2: top tight end. It's it's two different styles there with

241
00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,800
Speaker 2: him and Tyler Warren. But you know, he's someone could

242
00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,400
Speaker 2: really really run, can get in and out of breaks,

243
00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,960
Speaker 2: fluid for a bigger guy. He can go get it

244
00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,560
Speaker 2: with a huge catch radius. You know, he's he's tough

245
00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,439
Speaker 2: and physical after the catch and in the run game

246
00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,680
Speaker 2: he does enough. You know, he stays connected and shows

247
00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,400
Speaker 2: want to So he's one of the top ten players

248
00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,559
Speaker 2: in the draft from me. Will Johnson is is an

249
00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,600
Speaker 2: interesting one because there's so much, you know, hype on

250
00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,480
Speaker 2: him coming into the season and he's this big, athletic,

251
00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,160
Speaker 2: rangey corner. He's got ball production. But I did not

252
00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,360
Speaker 2: think he played his best this year. You know, I

253
00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,480
Speaker 2: thought there were times where he wasn't super interested against

254
00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,679
Speaker 2: the run, and you know, he got trucked a couple

255
00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 2: times against the run, so I just want to see

256
00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,920
Speaker 2: little more physicality there, and then some guys got on

257
00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,880
Speaker 2: top of him, so you know, I didn't get a

258
00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,360
Speaker 2: chance to finish out the year healthy. So I think

259
00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,160
Speaker 2: this will be a big spring for him to kind

260
00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,320
Speaker 2: of recapture some of that momentum he had off of

261
00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,880
Speaker 2: a much better season than twenty three. Kenneth Grannam mentioned

262
00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,720
Speaker 2: just massive. He's a you know, he's a people mover

263
00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,760
Speaker 2: and talking to the folks where he's been doing a

264
00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,480
Speaker 2: lot of his training. You know, at three hundred and

265
00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,480
Speaker 2: forty pounds, you should not be able to move around

266
00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,360
Speaker 2: like that. So you're you're hoping and dreaming on this,

267
00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, Dexter Lawrence type ascension for him once he

268
00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,840
Speaker 2: gets to the NFL. Hasn't put it all together, but

269
00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,680
Speaker 2: it's all in there. And then lastly, I'll give you

270
00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,320
Speaker 2: one more and there's you know, a bunch more guys.

271
00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,520
Speaker 2: But Josiah Stewart is just he's a bolt of lightning

272
00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,520
Speaker 2: off the edge. He's undersize, but if you don't look

273
00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,240
Speaker 2: at the size on your paper and just watch the tape,

274
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,720
Speaker 2: he doesn't play small at all. He can really generate

275
00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,720
Speaker 2: power as a rusher, and he's he's someone who plays

276
00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,520
Speaker 2: with just a maniacal effort and energy. One of my

277
00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:17,880
Speaker 2: favorite players to study.

278
00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:28,839
Speaker 3: Next question is from Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal. Nate, hey, Daniel, in.

279
00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,679
Speaker 13: Your latest mock draft, and you touched on the quarterback

280
00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,000
Speaker 13: debate earlier with Ward versus Sanders, but to the Browns

281
00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,079
Speaker 13: at number two. When you talk about fit, what specifically

282
00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,800
Speaker 13: had you going Ward in that spot?

283
00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, similar discussion. You know, having scouted that in that

284
00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,439
Speaker 2: division for a couple different teams, we always wanted guys

285
00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,040
Speaker 2: who were, you know, real rugged and strong. It's a

286
00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,959
Speaker 2: physical division you're gonna play and wind and weather as

287
00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,199
Speaker 2: you go throughout the season. Arm strength, Matt, there is

288
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more there. You know, it's it's you know,

289
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,319
Speaker 2: it's look, I'm not saying that shood Or can't play there.

290
00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,040
Speaker 2: He could fit in the system for sure. And you

291
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,200
Speaker 2: know if they went in that direction, that wouldn't you know,

292
00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,080
Speaker 2: totally blindside me or shock me. I just you know

293
00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,880
Speaker 2: know from being in that division and talking to people

294
00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,160
Speaker 2: inside that division, that's something that carries a little more

295
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,240
Speaker 2: weight than than maybe in other spots. So I just

296
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,200
Speaker 2: liked his ability. You know, if you look at Baker

297
00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,000
Speaker 2: and I know obviously went sideways there at the end,

298
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,240
Speaker 2: but even though Baker wasn't a really big guy, I

299
00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,200
Speaker 2: thought his arm played really really well there and you

300
00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,760
Speaker 2: know there were some ups and some downs, but I

301
00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,520
Speaker 2: didn't think that was that was an issue there at all,

302
00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,400
Speaker 2: and I think there is some of that. You know

303
00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,920
Speaker 2: with cam Ord. He's just got a real, real live arm.

304
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,120
Speaker 2: So that that's why I like that fit. Thank you.

305
00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,800
Speaker 3: Next question is from Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle.

306
00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,200
Speaker 9: D J, I'll preject you doing this.

307
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,320
Speaker 14: You know, the Sexans pick at number twenty five, obviously,

308
00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360
Speaker 14: and obviously they need guard defensive talk of wide receiver.

309
00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,360
Speaker 14: Just considering the realistic expectations of what could be there,

310
00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,280
Speaker 14: who would you consider be like a home run type

311
00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,480
Speaker 14: of pick for them?

312
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,720
Speaker 2: Well, I's you mentioned the interior. The offensive line is

313
00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,160
Speaker 2: someplace you can address. I think you can address that

314
00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,480
Speaker 2: interior offensive line on, you know, later on in the draft.

315
00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,320
Speaker 2: I think there is some depth along that interior. The

316
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,920
Speaker 2: two receivers that I just think were ready made to

317
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,840
Speaker 2: play there, and one of them is the obvious one

318
00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,520
Speaker 2: is a Mecca a Buka because of his connection and

319
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,520
Speaker 2: history with CJ. Stroud, but can play inside, can play outside,

320
00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,120
Speaker 2: just really really smart and instinctive and tough. I think

321
00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640
Speaker 2: he would make a lot of sense there. He's you know,

322
00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,720
Speaker 2: there's there's two guys. When I look at the Houston Texans.

323
00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,040
Speaker 2: It's a BUKA is for those exact same reasons that

324
00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,160
Speaker 2: I mentioned, And then the exact same with Matthew Golden.

325
00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,560
Speaker 2: You know, I have those guys right next to each

326
00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,000
Speaker 2: other on my list, Matthew Golden. I think both these

327
00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,680
Speaker 2: guys actually gonna run a lot faster than people think,

328
00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,320
Speaker 2: but a lot of the same attributes. I've become kind

329
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,080
Speaker 2: of obsessed with receivers, with the thought and keeping an

330
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600
Speaker 2: eye out for guys who are grounded through the catch,

331
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,360
Speaker 2: guys who really trust their hands and run through the ball.

332
00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,520
Speaker 2: I just put more importance on that. You just see

333
00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,280
Speaker 2: the really great receivers in the NFL have that trait,

334
00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,320
Speaker 2: that quality, that confidence in their hands and allows them

335
00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,240
Speaker 2: to do so much after the catch as well. So

336
00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 2: both those guys are grounded through the catch. Tough, smart,

337
00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,840
Speaker 2: instinctive players that I think would be home run fits

338
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,840
Speaker 2: there with CJ. Stroud.

339
00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,560
Speaker 3: Next question is from Brian Whacker of the Baltimore Sun.

340
00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,160
Speaker 6: Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this. Just stay a couple

341
00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,200
Speaker 6: of quick questions. The Ravens.

342
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,920
Speaker 15: They've got eleven picks in the draft.

343
00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,960
Speaker 6: You know, how do you sort of grade the overall

344
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,840
Speaker 6: quality of it? Depth, wise.

345
00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,440
Speaker 15: And then secondly, is this a draft that they don't

346
00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,879
Speaker 15: trade up very often? But you know, is it a

347
00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,159
Speaker 15: draft where you could see maybe trading up in the

348
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,359
Speaker 15: first round to take maybe an edge rusher like a

349
00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,719
Speaker 15: jail And Walk or Mike Green or somebody who can

350
00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,840
Speaker 15: have that kind of immediate impact edge rusher wise, a

351
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,480
Speaker 15: position they've kind of struggled with in those in those

352
00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,439
Speaker 15: middle rounds. Finding those guys.

353
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,080
Speaker 2: Well, I one of the things you look at with

354
00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,439
Speaker 2: the Ravens is because they amass all these picks and

355
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,879
Speaker 2: because they've played the comp game, you know better than

356
00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,439
Speaker 2: anybody else in the NFL, is you have options. So

357
00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,760
Speaker 2: if you absolutely fall in love with one of those

358
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,000
Speaker 2: edge rushers, yeah, they have the ammunition to do it.

359
00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,920
Speaker 2: I just don't necessarily think you have to. I think

360
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,679
Speaker 2: there's a lot of depth along the defensive front, not

361
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,639
Speaker 2: just edge rushers, but detackles. If they want to be patient,

362
00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,960
Speaker 2: I think one comes to them. You know, Shamar Stewart

363
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,040
Speaker 2: is someone that I paired up with them who's just

364
00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,080
Speaker 2: got a ton of twitch and a ton of ability

365
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,640
Speaker 2: out of Texas A and M. I think his best

366
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,359
Speaker 2: football is ahead of him. Even someone like Donovan Isaku

367
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 2: from Boston College kind of fits what they like in rushers.

368
00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,879
Speaker 2: He's real long, he's firm, he's got some power, and

369
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,919
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of production. So and we can

370
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 2: go on in the day too, like they're gonna there's

371
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,439
Speaker 2: gonna be edge rushers there. The one thing you know,

372
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,359
Speaker 2: my ears perked up thinking about them moving up was

373
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,080
Speaker 2: with your question, was maybe an offensive tackle depending on

374
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,520
Speaker 2: what happens with Ronnie Stanley. You know, if Ronnie Stanley

375
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,160
Speaker 2: were to depart in free agency and you know, say

376
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 2: it's a Simmons or someone like that that they that

377
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 2: they really like and have a high grade on. It's

378
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,440
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of depth of starting tackle caliber

379
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 2: players in this draft, so that would be more in

380
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,160
Speaker 2: line with my thinking there. Okay, thank you, yep.

381
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,719
Speaker 3: Next question is from Martin Frank of the Delaware News Journal.

382
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,879
Speaker 16: Hey, Daniel, appreciate you doing this as always well. Problem

383
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 16: when you're looking at the Eagles at number thirty two

384
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 16: as far as their pick is concerned, you know, it

385
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 16: seems like they have like quite a few needs and everything,

386
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 16: but is there also a chance they could trade out

387
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 16: of that of that pick and what do you think

388
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 16: the possibilities would be for that.

389
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule anything out with Howie you know, and

390
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, go in either direction. But there they're rosters

391
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 2: in such great shape and we'll see what happens with

392
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 2: free agency. You got some some key guys there, but

393
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,919
Speaker 2: they have so much roster depth, and they're you know,

394
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 2: traditionally a big line of scrimmage team in the draft,

395
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 2: and this is a draft especially as I mentioned on

396
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 2: the defense side, that's there's depth and quality there, so

397
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 2: they could if somebody wants to jump up, I can

398
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,679
Speaker 2: easily see them sliding back and trying to get some

399
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 2: more shots at it here on day two. I think

400
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot of value in Day two in this

401
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 2: year's draft class, So that would be that would be

402
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 2: more likely to me than moving north. I think would

403
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: be moving south. But again, don't rule anything out with them,

404
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: and one in doubt, just sit there and wait for

405
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: some uber talented, you know, Georgia Alabama player to kind

406
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 2: of fall down into their lap. Thank you, all right,

407
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with

408
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 2: the rest of this year's NFL scouting Combine conference call.

409
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 3: Next question is from Bob mcmannumn of the Arizona Republic.

410
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 7: Hey Daniel, thank you for doing this. Question is about

411
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 7: the Cardinals obviously here I know sixteen where you've got

412
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 7: a lot of guys kind of in that area. But

413
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 7: I'm more curious about maybe three guys you really like

414
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 7: that could be available at forty seven, maybe whether their

415
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 7: defense or not. But I could see them doubling down

416
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 7: on two defensive players.

417
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty seven. I mean I still think again with

418
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: the edg rusherscifically, which is a big need for that

419
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: for that football team. As you know, just third down

420
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: pressure rate two areas indicate you know they've got some

421
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 2: work to do there. So if you're looking in that

422
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: range you're talking about, you know, Jack Sawyer from Ohio

423
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: State comes into the mix there, who's kind of a

424
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: real physical, rugged edgresher who can also really set the edge.

425
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: Land and Jackson from Arkansas had a monster Senior Bowl

426
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: and he's you know, six ' five and changed two

427
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy three pounds. He can he can really

428
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: rush with that long arm, physical, he can close, he

429
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: can run, he plays with the effort. Those are a

430
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 2: couple guys, and I would say Prince Uman Milayan, I'm

431
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: gonna get that right when we get to the combine,

432
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: so forgive me, but at an old mess. He is

433
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: another one who popped at the Senior Bowl. Real long,

434
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: bendi athletic, he can really cover ground, so he's again

435
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: there's no shortage of edge rushers, especially in that that's

436
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: kind of almost a sweet spot where I like that

437
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: lump of players.

438
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 3: Next question is from Stu Jackson of the Rams dot Com.

439
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 17: Hey, DJ, just looking at the Rams at twenty six,

440
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 17: do you see sticking and picking as the best option

441
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 17: for them or in order to address their needs? Would

442
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 17: trading back and trying to accumulate more shots in the

443
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 17: top one hundred and make more sense based on what

444
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 17: you think their needs.

445
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: Well, Less has done such a good job, you know,

446
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: and that and that range, and so getting out of

447
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: there and collecting extra picks, I'm all for that, especially

448
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: when you kind of look at the the direction that

449
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: they could be looking, you know, the tackle. I wouldn't

450
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: feel as confident of what you're going to get if

451
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: you trade back. But there's still a need for for

452
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: corners receivers. They could they could pluck a tight end.

453
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: I mean, there's that's good position groups there on day two,

454
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: So you know, if they were to slide back a

455
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: little bit and collect some more resources there. I've got

456
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: a lot of respect and appreciation for their ability to

457
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: scout and find guys there, so that would that would

458
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: definitely make sense to me.

459
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: Next question is from Nix Sus of the Tennessee and.

460
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 18: Hey, Daniel, you mentioned at the top that you wouldn't

461
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 18: necessarily see the Titans moving past three, or you wouldn't

462
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 18: advocate for them moving past three. I'm just curious what

463
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 18: your opinion would be on what a reasonable hall would

464
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 18: be for moving if you're only moving one or two

465
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 18: picks back.

466
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'd have to pull up the comps on it.

467
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me right now.

468
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: But it does vary in terms of, you know, what

469
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: what the overall feel is on the class and how

470
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: how much they want to move out. I mean, I'm

471
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: sure they'll have opportunities to slide back a little bit

472
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: if they, you know, if they want to. I just

473
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: don't know if this is going to be the traditional

474
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: hall that you've seen for some of these other years

475
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: where you had, you know, like the and I know

476
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: obviously Caleb Williams was a little further to travel there,

477
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: But in previous years, I just think there's been a

478
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: higher opinion overall in the quarterback class, which drives price.

479
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: So to move back to three, I mean you're getting

480
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: you know, you're getting an extra you know, getting next

481
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: year's one. I guess you start there, But in terms

482
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: of how much on top of that, I don't know

483
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: that you get traditional costs and prices This year got

484
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: thank you.

485
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: Next question is from Eric Dalala of Denver Broncos dot Com.

486
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: ADJ. Sean Payton's talked about wanting to find this joker player,

487
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 4: whether it's a tight end in the receiving game or

488
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 4: running back that has that potential out of the backfield.

489
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 4: I know you had Loveland in the first round, but

490
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 4: any day two guys that you think could kind of

491
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: fit that mold if they decide to go somewhere else

492
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: in the first round.

493
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some fun ones, and I you know, it

494
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: got a lot of people I like myself. I think

495
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: looking around, going, okay, who would you classify in that

496
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: department as mismatch type players? So if I'm going to

497
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: go running backs and they are picking at fifty one

498
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: and eighty five, so if I'm just looking at some

499
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: running backs that I think are mismatch type players. Jayden

500
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: Blue in the past game out of Texas, Like he's

501
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: a legit four three guy, and they use him on

502
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 2: a bunch of different ways in the past game, you know,

503
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: angle routes, he can snap guys off, he can run

504
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: up the seam, even just getting him the ball on

505
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: the flat. With his speed, He's just he's a weapon.

506
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: So that one to me, I don't think you'd have

507
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: to take him in the second I think you could,

508
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: you know, get him in the third round. But that

509
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: was one when I was thinking about, you know, how

510
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: they would use guys. That was one that definitely popped

511
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 2: into my head from the running back position.

512
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 19: R J.

513
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: Harvey is another one at a Central Florida who's you

514
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: know compact. He's you know five, he's under five eighties,

515
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 2: two hundred and seven pounds. But when I watched him,

516
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, who does he remind me of?

517
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: This guy's like a mix of Devonte Freeman and Tarik Cohen,

518
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: Like he's he's that type of just fast, load of

519
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: the ground, shifty is just going to be a nightmare,

520
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 2: and they use him on wheel routes, they get him

521
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: the ball in the pass game as well, So I

522
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 2: thought him, you know, those are kind of outside the

523
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: second round, some fun mismatch tight players. And then from

524
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: the tight end standpoint, I think Fannin is a good

525
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: one from Bowling Green who's a little bit undersized, just

526
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: over six three, he's just under two hundred and forty pounds,

527
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: but he's he's just got a real knack for it,

528
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: a real feel for it, creating separation. He kind of

529
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: reminds me it's sec religious to say it because he's

530
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: now going into the Hall of Fame, but he's like

531
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: a Minnie Antonio Gates just with his movements, just how

532
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: he kind of moves around. It's kind of a unique

533
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: movement style that he has. But your question like, how

534
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: fast is this guy? And then you watch Penn State

535
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: and you watch Texas A and M and he's just

536
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: kind of running away from everybody and creating a bunch

537
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: of big plays. So I think you'd have to take

538
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: him in the second round. I don't think he would

539
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: be there in the third round, but he's he's definitely

540
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: a fun mismatch guy.

541
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 3: Next question is from Rus Franklin of NJ dot Com.

542
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 20: Hey Daniel, thanks for doing this again. The Eagles have

543
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 20: Zach Bond, Makai Becton, Josh Swat heading the free agency,

544
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 20: and if they can't sign any of those guys, who

545
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 20: do you think will be a good spot around at

546
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 20: thirty two or even in the top of the second

547
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 20: round that could either I vic Fangio's scheme or could

548
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 20: be quote unquote stubtlan guy if perspected.

549
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's let's go to the offensive line first

550
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: of all. So if I'm looking at the interior offensive line,

551
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: you know, there's some interest to me that the no

552
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: brainer would be greats able if he was there from

553
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: North Dakota State because he has the versatility, and I

554
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: think that's one of the underrated aspects of what the

555
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: Eagles have done. But talks about how big they are

556
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: and in physical and all that stuff, But look at

557
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: the number of guys on that offensive line that have

558
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: cross trained at different positions. You mentioned Beck then coming

559
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: in from a tackle to a guard. Landon Dickerson can

560
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: play any of those spots inside. Jurgens played guard and

561
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: play center lane if you needed him to, I think

562
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: kick over to the left in a heartbeat. But Zabel

563
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: to me out of North Dakota State, he's got legit

564
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: five position flex. I think he's he's better off kicking inside.

565
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: If Beck then were to leave, I think he's plug

566
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: and play year one at the guard spot. So that

567
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: one I like a lot Miles Frasier outside that when

568
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 2: you get into day two from LSU, he's got size

569
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: over six five, he's three hundred and twenty four pounds.

570
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: I just think he knows how to play. He's he's

571
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: played some outside as well, but he's definitely going to

572
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: be a guard. But he's got some power, some torque,

573
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: and some turn to him, So that one would be

574
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: that one would definitely be a match there. And then

575
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: when you look at linebackers, it's not a great off

576
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: the ball linebacker year if and how he's you know,

577
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: he's not going to take a linebacker in the first round.

578
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: But if you know, somehow Johan Campbell were to get there,

579
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: I can't imagine he would, but that is a you know,

580
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: he's a rangey, versatile athletic dude who can play off

581
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: the ball, you can play on the ball. He can

582
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: run like crazy. He's got a bunch of upside as

583
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: a rusher too, So that would be one there, and

584
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: then you know, some of the linebackers as you get

585
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: beyond that. I like Poop Paul from Ole Miss, you know,

586
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: maybe third round, Cody Simon, same out of Ohio State,

587
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Bossa Oregon, Barrett Carter Clemson like that. That group

588
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: of guys to me is kind of in that third

589
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: round range. Thank you, yep.

590
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: Next question is from Joe Rudder of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review.

591
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 21: Yeah, Hi, Daniel, I know in your two marks you've

592
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 21: had the Steelers taking offense in the first round if

593
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 21: they weren't address the defensive line, which is getting older.

594
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 21: What kind of player at twenty one you could potentially

595
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 21: see being there the Fitzer style?

596
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're looking at pick twenty one for the Steelers,

597
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, Michael Williams would be a lot of fun,

598
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: just because the physicality, require set in the edge, all

599
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: that stuff. He checks that box and I think he's

600
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: got so much upside as a rusher. I don't anticipate

601
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: he'll be there at that point in time. Him and

602
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Mike Green are probably both gone, but either one of

603
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: those picks would be you know, to me, home runs.

604
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart is raw as can be, as we as

605
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: we talked about a little bit earlier. But man, there's

606
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: a lot to work with, and I just I can't

607
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: imagine with someone with his physical gifts that he has

608
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: getting a chance to learn from TJ. Golly. That would

609
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: be fun if he were to get where he's capable

610
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: of getting talent wise. You know, there's there's a lot

611
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: in his body. So they'll they'll have options if they

612
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: if they want to go with an edge rusher, they're

613
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: going to have someone there that's worthy of that pick.

614
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: They're not going to have to reach if that's truly

615
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: the position that they wish to address.

616
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: Next question is from Andrew Kramer of Minnesota Star Tribune.

617
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 22: Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this. I want to ask

618
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 22: you about the Vikings of twenty four. You've got them

619
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 22: taken a run back. Why do you think the running

620
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 22: back run isn't going to start until the twenties this

621
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 22: time around? And then if they don't go running back,

622
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 22: what other kind of positions do you consider for them

623
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 22: at that spot?

624
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to figure out when the

625
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: run is going to go, and just to be totally

626
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: honest everybody. I kind of wanted to have some fun

627
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: with that too, with Ashton gent in a scenario where

628
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: he can kind of fall down a little bit. Ashton

629
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: Genty is my third player in the draft, so I

630
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: am a huge believer in his I think he is

631
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: extremely high floor to go along with an extremely high ceiling.

632
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: Who's a I think he's a special, special player. That

633
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: the interesting part is, and just a lot of this

634
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: comes from talking to people around the league, is because

635
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: of the depth of the class, and it's really it's

636
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: really good that, man, if you have multiple needs, maybe

637
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: you could see a scenario where teams are gonna punt

638
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: on running backs early and then just know that I

639
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: still got some options there on Day two. And that's

640
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: with the full appreciation that there is there is more

641
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: love for running backs around the league after this last

642
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: season with all those free agents. You know, all the

643
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: leading rushers in the league were all free agents that

644
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: showed their value. And then we've seen with some of

645
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: these young backs in the league what they've done, led

646
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: by Jamir Gibbs. But that's that's why I went running

647
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: back with the Minnesota Vikings, because I just think they

648
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: saw they saw you know, inside their division, what what

649
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: you had with you know what, Jamir Gibbs and Man,

650
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: that would be an explosive, explosive player to add to

651
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: their mix. So if Minnesota didn't go in that direction,

652
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: and I look at some of their other needs, interior,

653
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: offensive line would be one, corner would be another. If

654
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: you just look at a corner position. If we're looking

655
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: at guys that could potentially be fits and options there,

656
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: I think Azariah Thomas from Florida State would be in

657
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: the mix. And I think you're going to start hearing

658
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: a lot more about Maxwell Harriston after the combine from Kentucky.

659
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: He's a really good player. I think he's got a

660
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: chance to go in the first round.

661
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: Next questioniness from Dave Burkett of the Detroit Free Press.

662
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 23: Dave, Hey, DJ, I appreciate your time on these as

663
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 23: always a little two part question for you. I guess

664
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 23: there's a lot of teams sort of at the back

665
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 23: around one that have been rumored to be, you know,

666
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 23: maybe potential suitors for Miles Garrett or some of those

667
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 23: other pass rushers if they come out deep drafted defensive

668
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 23: line obviously, So can you walk me through the pluses

669
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 23: and minuses of making a deal, and then obviously for

670
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 23: a team like the Lions, if they didn't, if they

671
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 23: decided to use their picks on defensive line help, who

672
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 23: are some guys that you could see fitting them at

673
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 23: twenty eight?

674
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was a team that made the

675
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: most sense for me with Miles Garrett was Detroit just

676
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: because a if they ever are comfortable with moving them,

677
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: which it sounds like at this point they are not,

678
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: but if they are comfortable to me, you get them

679
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: outside the conference and he goes to Detroit. Detroit has

680
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: you know, the roster that's ready to win right now,

681
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: ready to win a championship, and that could be a

682
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: finishing piece. So you know, I would be I'd be

683
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: willing to be pretty aggressive. I think if I were

684
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: Brad Holmes on that front, knowing that that could that

685
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: could bring a parade to my city, I would be

686
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: aggressive and do whatever I had to do and try

687
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: and make something like that happen. So I would just

688
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: have to see if it, you know, if it's a

689
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: legit possibility. Everything talking to people, you know, as of

690
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: later around the league, the expectation is now he's not

691
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to move him. He's not

692
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: going to go anywhere, so we'll see what happens. If

693
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: you're looking at edge rushers for where they're picking at

694
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: pick number twenty eight, you know, you start getting into

695
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: you know, James Pierce, he could you know, he's gonna

696
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: be interesting one. He could go in the top fifteen,

697
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: he could go bottom of one, he could go top

698
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: of two. Like, there's a wide range on him. He's

699
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: a lean, skinny rusher, but he has got a ton

700
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 2: of juice and explosiveness. He really knows how to rush.

701
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: His first three steps are pretty dynamics. So that would

702
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: be one we'll see in the mix there. Again, I've

703
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: mentioned some of these names before, but Shamar Stewart will

704
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: see what happens with him. That would be another one

705
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: I think could could factor in for them if they're

706
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: looking for edge rushers. But you can get them all

707
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: throughout the draft. You can find them, you know, especially

708
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: day two. There's a lot of other good options there

709
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: for rushers.

710
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: Thank you.

711
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: Next question is for Matthew Parus of the New Orleans

712
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: Time Pecune.

713
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 24: Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this.

714
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: Just curious.

715
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 24: You've talked a lot about the depth with the defensive line.

716
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 24: But could you talk about the the overall the quality

717
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 24: like the quality of the high end edge rushers and

718
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 24: specifically for the Saints at number nine, just some keew

719
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 24: options for them there.

720
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, while Abdul Carter's gone, Jalen Carter, if he's there,

721
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: I would I would run the card up if if

722
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: you had an opportunity to get him. I just think

723
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: he makes all the sense in the world for him

724
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: and he's just so dynamic and not only just with

725
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: the talent that he brings. I think in year one

726
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: with Kellen Moore, I think having someone like that who's

727
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna take your message and spread it around. Uh,

728
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 2: he's that type of dude. So that one me would

729
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: be a home run. And then you know, I think

730
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: Michael Williams is the next one that would be, you know,

731
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: a worthy candidate for where that where that slot is.

732
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: And I think he's another one. Maybe a little patient

733
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: with him, but it's all in there and the upside

734
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: is tremendous. So I think all those guys are are

735
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: Both those guys would be you know, legit options and

736
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: uh would provide some serious juice to a pass rush.

737
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: So that's that's going to be curious to me is

738
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: what direction they go position wise, because I just think

739
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, coming off of the year he had and

740
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: seeing the value in the trenches and you know what

741
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: they had in Philadelphia, I'd just be surprised if they

742
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: went anywhere outside O line D line.

743
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 24: Did you mean Walker instead of Carter?

744
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: By the way, Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, Jalen Walker. Sorry yeah,

745
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: I got so many games Jalen Walker, Jalen Carter. I've

746
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: got there's fifty five Georgia, Jalen's and Carters. I feel like.

747
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 3: My next question is from Janat of the Athletic.

748
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 25: Hi, Daniel, thanks for doing this. I'm Jana with the Athletic.

749
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 25: I had a little bit of a broader question for

750
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 25: you for leading up to the combine. You know, last

751
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 25: year we saw some of those elite prospects sitting out

752
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 25: of drills. Do you see that trend continuing? And how

753
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 25: has the way teams view and analyze the combine changed

754
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 25: throughout the years.

755
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate that. That's a good question. I think

756
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: you're going to continue to see it. I think especially

757
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: with guys who have a long track record that have

758
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: you know, I've played well. I've been viewed as kind

759
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: of top ten picks for an extended period of time,

760
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: and they have all the tape that's out there, and

761
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: teams have the GPS information. So that's the case that

762
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: they'll present as to why they're not going to, you know,

763
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: to be active at the combine. So I think that's

764
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: something that we'll continue to see with the top tier players.

765
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to spread all the way through.

766
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: I don't. I think it's an opportunity for a lot

767
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: of these guys to compete, and a lot of these

768
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: guys still really want to do that. And if you're

769
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: not a lock in terms of your positioning, there's still

770
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 2: is a belief you can go out there and help yourself.

771
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: So I still think there's there's a there's value in it.

772
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: I think certain positions may be more value than others.

773
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: I've said this over the years, but I've always felt

774
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: like the corners have the most opportunity to help themselves

775
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: at the combine. You know, they they run well, they

776
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: move well, that that can answer a lot of questions

777
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: and can can help guys maybe more so than any

778
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: other position. So yeah, I do think you'll see it.

779
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: I know, Uh, there's a there's a growing trend there

780
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: of not doing some of the psychological testing in those things. Yeah,

781
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that's going to go back

782
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: to where it was. I think you'll see more and

783
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: more people that are going to probably opt out of

784
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: that in the future. And uh, you know it's there's

785
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: enough information and resources out there for teams to be

786
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: able to figure this thing out without all that, So

787
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 2: I don't think that's that big a deal.

788
00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 26: Thanks.

789
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: Next question is from John Glennon of the Nashville Post.

790
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 27: Hey, Daniel, thanks for your time touching back on the

791
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 27: on the Titans there at number one again, well kind

792
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 27: of a I guess a devil's advocate approach. I know

793
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 27: you've got Abdul Carter going there, but if you're the Titans,

794
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 27: a quarterback needy team, why not take a quarterback? You know,

795
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 27: if you think he is better than what you have

796
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 27: and you can win with him, and you don't know

797
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 27: when you're next time, you know, thinking at number one

798
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 27: or or close to it will be, can't you make

799
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 27: a good case for taking a quarterback there?

800
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: I think that's a great question and something I've been

801
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: thinking a lot about and did some homework on it

802
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: because I knew this would probably come up. But I

803
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: still believe you can make a case Okay, he's better

804
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: than what we have, But is that the Is that

805
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: the marker? Because then I would say, well, if you're

806
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: going to be right back, you know, two or three

807
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: years from now, saying this isn't good enough, we need better,

808
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: especially when you're in the AFC where we've got all

809
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: these cyborg quarterbacks you have to compete with. If you don't,

810
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: you don't want to draft somebody you're gonna have to

811
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: replace within a couple of years just because he was

812
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: a little bit better than the guy you had currently

813
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: on your roster. And the pushback I get when I've

814
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: said that is, yeah, you never know what you're going

815
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: to be up there again. And so we looked it up,

816
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: and you know, okay, the Bears were up there and

817
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: they had a quarterback that was better than what they had,

818
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: and they passed on it, and they turned around and

819
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: got Caleb Williams the next year. There's teams that could

820
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: have taken will Levis, the Commanders, the Patriots, the Vikings.

821
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: They all passed. The Commanders come back and get Daniels,

822
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots come back get May, the Vikings come back

823
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: get McCarthy. The Texans passed on Kenny Pickett twice. They

824
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 2: got C. J. Stroud the next year. The Jags passed

825
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: on Jordan Love. They got Trevor Lawrence the next year.

826
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 2: The Bills passed on Mahomes. Now, obviously that's one that's

827
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: worked out for both teams, maybe more so initially here

828
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 2: from Kansas City, but they got Josh Allen the next year.

829
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: So I do think there is some president there that

830
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: you know that you can't just say he's five percent

831
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: better than what we have, So we have to take

832
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: that position. That's just my thoughts on it. And you

833
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: know that's why you have to decide. Do you think

834
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: do you envision with the quarterback you take at number

835
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: one that he's going to be able to help your

836
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: team compete against Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson,

837
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, Like you need to have those honest conversations

838
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: in the draft room. All right, let's take a quick break.

839
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with the rest of this year's

840
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: NFL Scouting Combine Conference call.

841
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: Next question is from Dan Whider of the Chicago Tribune

842
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 3: and DJ. It's obviously offensive line season here in Chicago.

843
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 28: So I wanted to ask you first about Calvin Banks,

844
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 28: specifically at the tackle position, what you see in him,

845
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 28: and then I would sable. I know you like his

846
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 28: versutil but what are some of the things on his

847
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 28: tape and his seniable performance that really jumped out at you?

848
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 2: Sure? With Banks, just I love the fact that he's

849
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: just He's three hundred and twenty pounds, He's thick, he's sturdy,

850
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: he can bend, He's you know, athletic enough to really

851
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: sink and bend, keeps his hands in tight. He plays

852
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: with patients, you know. The stuff that he gets in

853
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: trouble with is sometimes he sets a little bit deep

854
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: and then he ends up getting in some trouble that

855
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: way when he kind of creates more runways. So I

856
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 2: think if he could be a little more, a little

857
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: more firm and not getting quite as much depth in

858
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: his set, that he'll he'll be able to solve that problem.

859
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: And then in the run game, I just want to

860
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: see him show a little bit more strain and finish,

861
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: just a little bit more nasty to him in the

862
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: run game. But he's a he's a good athlete. He's

863
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: he's someone that I think can play. I think even

864
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: though he's not the tallest scandalld, I still think he

865
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: could hold up and play tackle no problem. And I

866
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: think he could. I think he could be hell on

867
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: wheels guard so that banks and then when you you

868
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: look at Gray's abel man the week of practice, there

869
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: were not many bad reps at all during the week

870
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: of practice for him. In the game, he got on

871
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: his edges a little bit and as he's kind of

872
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: moving around playing all these different positions. But he's someone again,

873
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: he's got really good balance, he's always under control, he's

874
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: never on the ground. He's got strong hands, he's really aware,

875
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of seeing things and and picking

876
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: things up. He's he's uh, he's just a he's a

877
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: guy who's played a lot of football, who's polished and

878
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: answered any of the smaller school so to speak questions

879
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl, even though North Dakota State has been,

880
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, a school that's pumped out a lot alignments.

881
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm a huge fan of his and I

882
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: think he's he's definitely in the mix to go in

883
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: the first round.

884
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: Next question is from Ben Standing of the Athletic.

885
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 29: Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this for a team like Washington.

886
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 29: They've got needs on both lines. But of course there's

887
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 29: this push to get Jade Daniels more weapons. It always

888
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 29: feels like when you have a quarterback like that, he

889
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 29: can raise the level of receivers more than you have

890
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 29: to like get him star receivers. If that If that

891
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 29: kind of makes sense, So how do you kind of

892
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 29: weigh that option, Like you have this quarterback, but you

893
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 29: also need to get to build the line to help

894
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 29: them get to the next level.

895
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's arguments you can make

896
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: on both sides of that, but I do I do

897
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: agree though that quarterbacks elevate the play of others. And

898
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: if you have you want to start, let's get him

899
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: protected and let's keep him healthy and then let's, you know,

900
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: let's let's be really good at scouting and evaluating players

901
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: that we can find without premium resources, and let's let's, uh,

902
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: let's surround them with some of those guys as well.

903
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: I think there's once that that foundation and the offensive

904
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: line is is built and steady, then I think you

905
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: can now you can go shopping for some of the

906
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: other things. Kind of always like use the analogy of man,

907
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: you got to go shop at the hardware store before

908
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: you go to the toy store. So I would I

909
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: would continue to try and address that offensive line, not

910
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: only so you know, we can run the ball better

911
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: and we can do different things, but just to keep

912
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: him upright and healthy. And I think you can. You know,

913
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: Adam Peters is really good. You know, he's he's one

914
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: of the best evaluators in the NFL, and he's been

915
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: around a lot of good receivers throughout his career, especially

916
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: the group that they had up there in San Francisco.

917
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: So I'm confident he'll be able to find receivers without

918
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: necessarily using the premium resources.

919
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: Next question is from Cassidy Hill of Panthers dot Com.

920
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 30: Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this. You had in your

921
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 30: mock draft, you know the Walker coming here, but also

922
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 30: kind of mentioned the idea of a trade back. I'm

923
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 30: just wondering, when you're looking at a team.

924
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 31: Like the Panthers that have so many needs across defense,

925
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 31: is this a class that is deep enough to pass

926
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 31: on a guy like Walker just to get more pieces.

927
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's a good discussion, and it's a

928
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 2: good debate in the room. I mean, I don't think

929
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: you want to do it just to get a fourth

930
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: round pick, but I think if you can, you know,

931
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: get some some quality resources, get another pick on day two.

932
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: He's a great player, and I wouldn't have any criticism

933
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: if they decide we're just going to stick and pick

934
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: him and and go forward. But when you have this

935
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: many holes, and this is a draft that does have

936
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: a lot of talent and depth, you know, on the

937
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: on the defensive front, you know, I'd be interested in

938
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: that option. I'm not saying, you know that's the right

939
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: or the wrong way to go. I just think, man,

940
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: there's so many holes there, and you could fill a

941
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: bunch of them if you could slide back a little bit. So,

942
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, I think that's that's a good debate and

943
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: a good discussion. I could I could spend ten minutes

944
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: and argue it each way, so they just have to

945
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: see what they get. I definitely think you'd want to

946
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: get a premium. I don't think you just do that

947
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: just to go back and get an extra pick when

948
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: I get.

949
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 32: Called on which you happened in any second now or not,

950
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 32: Let's see.

951
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: Next question is from David Ferones of the Fort Lauderdale

952
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: Sun Sentinel.

953
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 33: Nope, Hi, DJ, thanks thanks for doing this. I saw

954
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 33: you went Tyler Booker to the Dolphins at thirteen in

955
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 33: your latest mock beyond the obvious needed guard for Miami.

956
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 33: Why him? And how many different paths could you see

957
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 33: the Dolphins going with that pick, considering Chris Greer likes

958
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 33: to go for his best player available and not necessarily

959
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 33: by need early in a draft where they do have

960
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 33: ten picks to address needs.

961
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think he's a perfect marriage of need

962
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: and fit and value. So you know, Booker, to me

963
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: is one of the more consistent players that I've watched

964
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: in this class. He's big, he's powerful, He's someone that

965
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: when you talk to the folks at Alabama, they just

966
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: rave about him. In terms of the work ethic, the

967
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: leadership of someone that told me he was like the

968
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: Will Anderson of their offense. In terms of the leadership,

969
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: someone had been around there for a while. So I

970
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: think all those things considered, I think you have somebody

971
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: who's really really firm and pass pro with Tua. I

972
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: think the interior that offensive line being firm is very important.

973
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: So That's one that I just thought was a you know,

974
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: just a home run pick for them in terms of

975
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: all those factors coming together. That's why that one made

976
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: a lot of sense to me. You know, defensive tackle

977
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: could be an area they could go as well. And

978
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: there's you know, there's no shortage of defensive tackles that

979
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: are intriguing in this draft. I mentioned them a little

980
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: bit earlier, you know, with Kenneth Grant, that would be

981
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: that would be a fun one to throw into their

982
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: mix as well, just as someone who is already dominant

983
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: against the run, but somebody I think's got a lot

984
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: of upside as a rusher and someone who, you know,

985
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: if they can stay healthy on the edges, someone who

986
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: benefit those guys just because he's gonna he's gonna take

987
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: away the escape patch. Just his ability to push the

988
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: pocket even as he's growing and developing and evolving as

989
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: a rusher, I know he can do that. He can

990
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: put his hands in chest and walk you back and

991
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 2: take away the escape route as those dreshers get home.

992
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 2: So that'd be another one I think that would would

993
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: make a lot of sense there.

994
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 34: Thanks.

995
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: Next question is from Tim Bilick of Cleveland dot Com.

996
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 35: Daniel, thanks again for doing this. It's kind of a

997
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 35: quick two part when it comes to the quarterbacks. Obviously

998
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 35: this isn't as strong a QB class as twenty twenty four,

999
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 35: likely not to get more than two or maybe three

1000
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 35: qbs in there. I guess Part one is how would

1001
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 35: cam Warden should Ur Sanders fit if you stack them

1002
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 35: compared to last year's guys as far as the top six?

1003
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: And then if you're a team like the Browns a

1004
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: number two, how much.

1005
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 35: Does the idea of taking the idea of seiling variants

1006
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 35: like cam over the higher ceiling shoulder with a lower

1007
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 35: higher floor. How much do you think that should weigh

1008
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 35: into a decision if you're a team like the Titans

1009
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 35: or the Browns of the Giants and say you have

1010
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 35: a choice between both guys.

1011
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the age old debate, right you know,

1012
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: do you want you want safe and floor or do

1013
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: you want you know, kind of exciting and upside. I

1014
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: always feel like again for the same reasons I've mentioned

1015
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: referenced earlier, it's just that the high level of quarterback play,

1016
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: particularly in the AFC right now, I just man, it's

1017
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: hard to it's hard to you know, go with the

1018
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: floor instead of the ceiling there and know, hey, if

1019
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: we go with the ceiling, and you know, we can

1020
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: hopefully have enough a rope to come around and try

1021
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: and go get another one at some point in time.

1022
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean, nothing's guaranteed, but that's my I always tend

1023
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: to be a little bit more. Let's chase the upside

1024
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: a little bit when we're up there. So that's the

1025
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: direction I would go. When you look at this group

1026
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: compared to last year. I just pull up my list

1027
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: from last year. I had him. I had cam Ward

1028
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: with the same grade as bow Nicks, so that would

1029
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: put him behind those top four for me, so he'd be,

1030
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: you know, kind of in that fifth fifth range. And

1031
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix. I had just slightly a head of Shador,

1032
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: So Shador would be behind those guys, behind Caleb Drake,

1033
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: Jaden McCarthy, Nix, Pennix. Then I would have shaudor right

1034
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: behind that group. Thanks a bunch.

1035
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: Next question is from Ryan Mink of Baltimore Ravens dot com.

1036
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 34: Yeah, thanks for doing this, DJ.

1037
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 36: Just curious, how do you see the cornerbacks and safety classes.

1038
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 36: I know last year had a ton of depth at

1039
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 36: corner especially a lot of guys went high. How do

1040
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 36: you see that at the front end of that group,

1041
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 36: and then the depth there, can the Ravens find a

1042
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 36: plug and play starter if they don't bring Brandon Stevens back.

1043
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 36: And then similarly at safety, you know the Ravens are

1044
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 36: kind of looking for a potential starter there or at

1045
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 36: least the third safety.

1046
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little deeper at corner than

1047
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: safety this year. And if we're you know, looking at

1048
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 2: the Ravens, if we look where they're picking on day two,

1049
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: like fifty nine, ninety one, fifty nine, I look at

1050
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: somebody like Trey Amos from Old miss That would be

1051
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: someone I think would be a really interesting fit for them.

1052
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 2: Perish from from Kansas State, who you know, I think

1053
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: could play inside, can play outside. Those are some intriguing players.

1054
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: Quincy Riley from Louisville would be in that like third

1055
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: round Range is a good one who who kind of

1056
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: plays with a little bit of that edge that they

1057
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: like there in Baltimore. So those are some of the

1058
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: corners when you look at the safety group, second round

1059
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: safeties that I know at late first round, by the way,

1060
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: South Carolina's Nick Amblin Warrey. If he was there, I

1061
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: would I would turn the card in. I think he'd

1062
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: be a fun player for them to play with. Just

1063
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: he's big, he's physical, plays more near the line of scrimmage.

1064
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: He's he makes a lot of plays buzzing underneath the ball,

1065
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: and he's a physical, firm tackler, and you know, he's

1066
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: an aggressive, aggressive dude. I would be excited about that

1067
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: at the end of the first round and then when

1068
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: you start getting into the second, third round at the

1069
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: safety position, and I really like Jalen Reid from Penn

1070
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: State who's two hundred and twelve pounds and can run it.

1071
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: Just plays plays really really well timing and versus a blitzer,

1072
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: he can play the ball. Third round wise Ransom from

1073
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Makubum from Texas, Billy Bowman from Oklahoma. So

1074
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: those are some of the names of those guys. But

1075
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: I would say in terms of the depth of it,

1076
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like you're getting a little bit

1077
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: longer group there at the corner group.

1078
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 34: Thanks DJ.

1079
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: Next question is from Bill Huber of on SidJ.

1080
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: How you doing doing great?

1081
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 7: Good Air.

1082
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 37: I appreciate your time on this. You probably heard Josh

1083
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 37: Jacobs at the Super Bowl. Talking about the Packers need

1084
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 37: a number one receiver, I'm not sure, not sure that

1085
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 37: guys available and free agency, they don't pick receivers in

1086
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 37: the first and you kind of hit on those guys anyway.

1087
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 37: But Green Bay has had a sweet spot in the

1088
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 37: second round at receiver of kind of who do you

1089
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 37: like there, and whether it's earlier or late, who do

1090
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 37: you like is a kind of a big play guy

1091
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 37: with some John Gaska, but a guy who can actually

1092
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 37: play with some big playability.

1093
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: Sure, I think somebody's mic is opened, by the way.

1094
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: So when we when we look at the green Bay Packers,

1095
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: you know, first of all, with where they're picking, pull

1096
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: their number up here, they are picking fifty four. So

1097
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: at fifty four, you're looking for a big play wide receiver.

1098
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: You know, Trey Harris is a good all around receiver

1099
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: out of Old Miss. I think that's about the range

1100
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: where you're going to see this clump here with Trey

1101
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: Harris from Old Miss, Jaden Higgins from Iowa State, Jack

1102
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 2: Besh from TCU. All those guys are big. Trey Harris

1103
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: is almost six to two, Higgins is almost six ' four,

1104
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 2: Jack Beck's you know, six to one and a quarter

1105
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: two hundred and fourteen pounds. Those guys are all kind

1106
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: of in that in that range of the draft. Tory

1107
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: Horton is another one from Colorado of state who's going

1108
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 2: to be around that range. All those guys are big,

1109
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: All those guys can make plays down the field. All

1110
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: those guys are going to work out well in the

1111
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: red zone. They're going to be point producers. So that's

1112
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: a good clump there of wide outs that I think

1113
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: would make some sense if they wanted to go with

1114
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: a little more of the compact explosive player in that mix,

1115
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: which I think they they already possess. But to me,

1116
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 2: you look at at Jalen Ole from from Iowa State,

1117
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: who's going to put on a show with the combine

1118
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: he's he is really really explosive, and he can play inside.

1119
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: I think even as an undersized player, he could play outside.

1120
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 2: And then Jalen Royals from Utah State, who's who's got,

1121
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: you know, a real compact two and ten pounds actually

1122
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: kind of looks like Randall Cobb to kind of go

1123
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: back in the old school there. But there's there's a

1124
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: there's a good clump of receivers there in that second

1125
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: round range. And as you mentioned, they've done a great

1126
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: job of identifying those guys.

1127
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 37: Thanks appreciate it.

1128
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: Sure.

1129
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: Next question is from James Crapa of The Oregon.

1130
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 38: J What in your perspective on three of Oregon's guys

1131
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 38: starting with Connerly and Harmon and Birch? And I know

1132
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 38: you've mocked Connorley into the first, but where Harmon and

1133
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 38: Birch fall in your projection so far?

1134
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: Sure, I actually have Harmon even over him on my

1135
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: list personally, but he's Harmon's just really disruptive. He's got

1136
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: quick hands. He just lives under the side of the

1137
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. He's really instinctive, he's aware, he knows

1138
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 2: where blocks are coming from, and he gets he gets

1139
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: up the field. So he's he's a fun, fun player.

1140
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: I want to see him use power a little bit more.

1141
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: He flashes it, it's all in there. But I'd love

1142
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: to see him play into his power a little bit more.

1143
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: But I think he's bottom one, top of two type.

1144
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: Pick Connery. He's just you know, he's got that you know,

1145
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: sturdy frame, long arms, he's real patient, he's got quick feet.

1146
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: The issue with him is just going to be he's

1147
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: not a great bender, and that's how you can kind

1148
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: of get caught like he did. And the clip that

1149
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: got sent around from Mike Green at the Senior Bowl,

1150
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: so that's gonna be something he's gonna have to continue

1151
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: to work through. It's just it's just getting a little

1152
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: bit lower, bending a little bit better. And then similarly

1153
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: to Banks, as I was talking about earlier, just a

1154
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: little more strain and finish in the run game. But

1155
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: you know, the greade I gave him puts him kind

1156
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: of bottom one, top of two in that range. And

1157
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: then Birch was the other one who's an interesting player

1158
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: to watch just because he's so big, but he's kind

1159
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: of more of a finesse player than a real physical player.

1160
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: No real violent guy, but he's nifty, he's got you know,

1161
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: plays with that long arm move. He's got a real

1162
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: steady bull rush, not real you know, dynamic, twitchy, explosive,

1163
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: but he can hold up with his length at the

1164
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: point of attack, and he does play really hard to

1165
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: close and chase plays from the backside. I thought he

1166
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: was more kind of you know, bottom two to middle three.

1167
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: That's where I had him on my list.

1168
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 3: Thank next question is from Jerry McDonald of the San

1169
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: Jose Mercury News.

1170
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 39: Okay, Daniel, to borrow you from your analogy, the forty

1171
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 39: nine ers have accumulated a lot of toys over the year,

1172
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 39: and they may need a visit to the hardware store

1173
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 39: in terms of in terms of offensive defensive lines. I'm

1174
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 39: curious what you're what you're thinking they might do at

1175
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 39: eleven and who's available to them in those areas.

1176
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, where they're picking at eleven, they're gonna be able

1177
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: to get a really good player. And I'm curious. The

1178
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: one thing, you know, we talked about him as one

1179
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: of the top players in draft with Mason Graham. You know,

1180
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: I'll be curious to see how he goes through the spring.

1181
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I think his tape is so good,

1182
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure he's gonna, you know, totally ace

1183
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: the spring part of it. If you're looking for someone

1184
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: I think would just be a home run pick for him.

1185
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: What's the dream scenario to me? It would be Mason

1186
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: Graham where to fall down to him, where they could,

1187
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 2: you know, scoop him up and pick him up. But

1188
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 2: where they're picking, We've talked about Walker from Georgia. That's

1189
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: probably a good chance that he's gone at that point

1190
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: in time. Some you know, Williams is the other one.

1191
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of that same clump of players,

1192
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: that same group of players. The player who's a great

1193
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: scheme fit for them, which I think would be more

1194
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: of a trade back than necessarily take him right there

1195
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: at eleven, would be, you know, Walter Nolan, who's you know,

1196
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: they with their kind of jet front and they like

1197
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: to play up the field, Chris Caserk. They want to

1198
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: really really get off the ball and penetrate and go,

1199
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: and he's really really twitched up. So Walter Nolan to me,

1200
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: would be someone if you maybe if you slid down

1201
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: a little bit just to get a little bit more value,

1202
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: that would be a defensive tackle. But I think would

1203
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: be a really fun fit for that group.

1204
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1205
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be

1206
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: right back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting

1207
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: Combine conference call.

1208
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: Next question is from Rayner Saban of the Detroit Free Press.

1209
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 40: All right, Daniel, I just wanted to check in with

1210
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 40: you regarding the Lions and their their history under Brad

1211
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 40: Holmes and what you think the common thread is that

1212
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 40: kind of ties their draft picks and in light of that,

1213
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 40: what kind of players in the range that they're picking at,

1214
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 40: you know, twenty nine is going to be the type

1215
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 40: of player that they'll be looking for in that range specifically.

1216
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think they've he's been really intentional about how

1217
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: they've built their team. They've just found. First of all,

1218
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: they started with, you know, building it through the foundation

1219
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: with the offense and defensive line and finding guys with

1220
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: excellent play temperament, guys that are they are finishers, that

1221
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: play with effort and are physical. I think that was

1222
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: kind of the first part of the build, and then

1223
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: after that they went hunting for as many dynamic players

1224
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: as they can find. And what Jamir Gibs, Jameson Williams,

1225
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: the you know, the juice that they brought to that offense.

1226
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: You know, even Laporta you know, plays really really fast

1227
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: as a tight end. It just feels like they've combined

1228
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: the physical and the fast really really well. And I

1229
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: think the way that they built it out was really really,

1230
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: really really smart. So I think now with where they are,

1231
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: I think it's you know that they've got some of

1232
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: these young skill guys at these core positions, these core

1233
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: skill positions, and you've got Zeitler as a free agent.

1234
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: I think you could look at them, you know, kind

1235
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: of going back and kind of going the full circle here,

1236
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: start big, go fast. I think you can come back

1237
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: around and then go back to the line of scrimmage

1238
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: again if they can't get Zeitler signed. I've mentioned Zabel

1239
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: for them as as someone I think is plug and play.

1240
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson from Ohio State is another one who I

1241
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: think is plug and play. So those are those are

1242
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: kind of more you know, meat and potatoes guys, but

1243
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: they're in really good. They're really good. Thank you.

1244
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: As a reminder, make sure your line is muted until

1245
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: you're called on. Next question is from Aaron Wilson of

1246
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 3: kp RC in Houston. Okay, we're gonna move on to

1247
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: Andrew Mason of one oh four point three in Denver.

1248
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 41: Hey, DJ, I want to ask you about mocking Colston

1249
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 41: Lovelin to the Broncos at twenty, Like, what do you

1250
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 41: like about him as a potential fit and also kind

1251
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 41: of a follow on that pick you talked about how

1252
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 41: special Ashton Geny was and if he's there at twenty,

1253
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 41: do you see the Broncos passing on him even with

1254
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 41: his skill set.

1255
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, push comes to shove. Yeah, first of all, I

1256
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: think I would just be shocked if Genty did get there.

1257
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: I was kind of playing around with some different scenario

1258
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: in that last mock draft. His tape is so good,

1259
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: the character's so good, all that stuff. Even if teams

1260
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: are going to be patient on the running backs, I

1261
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: think once we get through it and get to the end,

1262
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: I think, you know, Gentill, he'll be off the board.

1263
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: That would be an interesting conversation with those guys there.

1264
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: Genti's of my third overall player. Loveland's my seventh overall player.

1265
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: So I think they both be you know, home run picks.

1266
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: You know, I think you go Genty over Loveland just

1267
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: based off the off that for me, and that's a situation.

1268
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: But Loveland, when I think about jokers and chess pieces

1269
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: and mismatch players, he'd be a fun He'd be a

1270
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: fun one in that offense. And to grow. I like

1271
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: the idea of having a young quarterback and bow Nicks

1272
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: having a chance to grow and play with the same

1273
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: tight end for a long period of time. And you know,

1274
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: I think there's as we've seen with Mahomes and Kelsey.

1275
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: That's a that's a chemistry thing with those two positions connected.

1276
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: So I would love to see them get a premium

1277
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: tight end like that and let those guys grow together.

1278
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: Because Lovelan is he's excellent, and again he's one of

1279
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: the top ten players in the draft for me.

1280
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: Next question is from Jeff Bedoton of Forbes.

1281
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 4: Daniel, thanks so much for doing this.

1282
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 20: I had a question about the Canadian quarterback who kind

1283
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 20: of wowed everybody of the senior ball. Is he a

1284
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 20: guy that's going to get drafted and if so, where

1285
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 20: is he more of like a priority free agent?

1286
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: So everybody that I've talked to around the NFL, I

1287
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: still haven't gotten my hands on his tape yet. So

1288
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: that's been a tricky one just to try and locate

1289
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: the tape. So I'm one of my things I'm efforting

1290
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: to do is to to find my way to that tape.

1291
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: But there was there was a lot of excitement just

1292
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: the way the ball came out of his hand, and

1293
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: it was still more of a late round, you know,

1294
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: priority free agent situation, but he's got some size and

1295
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: just in the brief exposure I had to him watching

1296
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: him there. I think you have something to work with.

1297
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: So I'm anxious to see the tape. I'm acious not

1298
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: just to see the tape to see him, but to

1299
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: see the style and the quality of play you know

1300
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: up there. I'm looking forward to seeing that. So I'm

1301
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: on the hunt.

1302
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: Next question is from Anthony Cosenza of s B Nation.

1303
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 42: Hey, Daniel, thanks for the time today. Have a question

1304
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 42: for you. As the Bengals are sitting in the middle

1305
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 42: of the first round, a lot of people are talking

1306
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 42: about Walter Nolan if he's there for interior defensive line help.

1307
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 42: You mentioned earlier in the press conference call here that

1308
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 42: there's some good interior offensive line prospects later in the draft.

1309
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 42: Can the same be said about other interior defensive line prospects.

1310
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 42: If the Bengals decide to forego those type of spots

1311
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 42: within the first two rounds and they maybe wait till

1312
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 42: late night too early day three.

1313
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna pull up their pick here. So if

1314
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: we just want to go to pick eighty one for

1315
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and you want a defensive tackle with pick eighty one,

1316
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the draft to do it. There

1317
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: is a ton of them, so you know you've got

1318
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: Jamari Caldwell from Oregon. Kind of in that range. You've

1319
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: got Ty Hamilton, Ohio State. You've got Omar Norman Lot

1320
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: from Tennessee, Jordan Phillips from Maryland. There's there's a lot

1321
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: of defensive tackles. I posted this the other day, but

1322
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: in terms of guys with potential starter grade. So I'm

1323
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: not saying you know they're locks, you know, stamp it,

1324
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: they're going to be starters. But with players with the

1325
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: potential to start at defensive tackle, last year I had

1326
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: twelve uh and this year I had double, So it's

1327
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: it is as deep of a defensive tackle draft as

1328
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: I can as I can ever remember. So if they

1329
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: do decide to go another direction early, they're gonna have

1330
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: plenty options beyond that if you're if you're looking. One

1331
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: by the way that I'm one of my just favorite

1332
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: players to study is a guest from from Old miss

1333
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: who's three hundred and twenty three pounds. I have him

1334
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: kind of as a as a second round like bottom

1335
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: half of the bottom part of the second round. But

1336
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: just if you want to have fun, just just pull

1337
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: up like a YouTube. I'm sure they're out there on

1338
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: him and look at his his stuff. He does offensively

1339
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: at Old Miss. It's a lot of fun.

1340
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 27: Thank you.

1341
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: Next question is from John McMullen of on s I.

1342
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 43: Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this. Last time the Eagles

1343
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 43: were thirty two was the Lamar Draft A is there

1344
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 43: a quarterback that you think might fit there for teams

1345
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 43: looking for that fifty year option? And then when they

1346
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 43: traded down they drafted Dallas Goddard and Zach Ertz Is

1347
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 43: a little bit younger, was a little bit younger than

1348
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 43: Dallas is now. Any tight ends and sort of that

1349
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 43: forty to fifty range that could project.

1350
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely tight ends. The three that I would

1351
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: have in that mix. Mason Taylor from LSU would be

1352
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: a home run pick who's just a real steady, reliable,

1353
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: dependable guy who jumped on the scene with the game

1354
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: winner against Bama his freshman year. He's obviously it's a

1355
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: football family with Jason Taylor there, but he's impressive, had

1356
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: a great Senior Bowl, So I don't know how far

1357
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: into the second round he would make it, but he's

1358
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: in that range. Elijah Royo from Miami another one who

1359
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: had a great Senior Bowl week who can really really run.

1360
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: And then Harold Fannon, who I mentioned a little bit

1361
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: earlier from from Bowling Green. I think those would all

1362
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: be good guys to add along into that group. But

1363
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 2: I do think Tallas Godder it's got a lot more uh,

1364
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: he's got a lot more football left in him. In

1365
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: terms of the quarterbacks, I haven't been able to find

1366
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 2: that buzz out there for someone who would you know

1367
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: a quarterback that teams would really want to get into

1368
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: the bottom of one. Jackson dart Is uh is my

1369
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: third guy. That would be the one I think I

1370
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: would keep an eye on and see if the buzz

1371
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: builds with him that that maybe that could uh, that

1372
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: buzz could build, But as of today, I would say

1373
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily see a team moving in there.

1374
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 17: Rank Steja yep next for want to fill up marsh

1375
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 17: with huddle UK.

1376
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: All right, Daddy, thanks for your telling today.

1377
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 44: The interest in the NFL over here in the UK

1378
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 44: is growing at a huge rate, and particularly the off

1379
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 44: season interest now is going with each past some year

1380
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 44: with a focus on the combine next week. What drills

1381
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 44: for specific positions would you advise a first time combine

1382
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 44: watcher really pay attention to and are there any sort

1383
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 44: of non measurables when you're scouting these prospects that you

1384
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 44: really pay attention to instead of the numbers.

1385
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's great. I'm glad there's a there's more

1386
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: interest building here with this event. It's it's a lot

1387
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: of fun to watch. I would say, first of all,

1388
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: if you're watching it for the first time, the most

1389
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: fun part of the combine is a you know, I

1390
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: think on the fan side of things is you want

1391
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: to watch guys run fast, so you know, the receivers

1392
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: and the dbs when they get a chance to run forties,

1393
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: it's just a me and rich Eisen have a blast

1394
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 2: because we got the best seat in the house and

1395
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: it's just still fun to watch guys that can absolutely fly.

1396
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: So that's that's something to watch their quarterback wise, you

1397
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: just want to see how the ball comes out of

1398
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: their hand. You're not going to necessarily worry about, you know,

1399
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 2: all the ball placement things and you know, ding them

1400
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 2: on accuracy throwing the guys they're not used to, but

1401
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: you can get a sense for just how they spend

1402
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: the ball, how the ball comes out of their hand.

1403
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: I think when you look at explosive positions in terms

1404
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: of like edge rushers. It's I always think it's it's

1405
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: important to see their jumps, like, see their verticals, see

1406
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 2: their broad just see how much explosiveness they can generate.

1407
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: Those are some of the things you look at there

1408
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 2: in terms of outside the numbers. Look, the team's going

1409
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: to get access to stuff we don't obviously, the medical

1410
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: information and the interviews that they have in the evenings.

1411
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: But I always think there's value in if you're watching

1412
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 2: these groups and you see, you know who ends up

1413
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: kind of being the leaders in these groups. Who who

1414
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: do players navigate towards, Who do they want to be

1415
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: around and talk to. I think there's I think there's

1416
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 2: information you can gather just by by watching these guys interact.

1417
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

1418
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 3: Next question is from Jonas Schaeffer of the Baltimore Banner.

1419
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 2: Adj.

1420
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 45: Thanks for doing this. It's been interesting to see some

1421
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 45: of the best passing offenses in the NFL don't really

1422
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 45: have that prototypical X receiver. And obviously we've seen teams

1423
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 45: like Buffalo embrace someone like a MATC. Collins because of

1424
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 45: what he can do as a field stretcher, but also

1425
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 45: with his blocking ability. I guess you know as that

1426
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 45: position has kind of evolved. Have the traits that teams

1427
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 45: are looking for at that X position changed at all

1428
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 45: just with the the evolution of the game.

1429
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. I haven't really thought about it.

1430
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: I still think the core principles are the same in

1431
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: terms of you know, size, physicality, the ability to win

1432
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: on third down and in the red zone, you know,

1433
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: catch radius. I think a lot of those things are

1434
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: have been the same for a long period of time.

1435
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 2: You know, the blocking things interesting I've been you know,

1436
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: I've been talking about this a little bit on the

1437
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: defensive side of it because with corners, we used to say,

1438
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 2: when I started scouting in two thousand and three, we

1439
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: would use the term cover corner a lot. And you know, hey,

1440
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 2: this guy doesn't really tackle, doesn't have any interest, but

1441
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: who cares, Like we're going to leave him out there

1442
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: on the island and let him cover. And I think

1443
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: we're seeing so many condensed formations now that it's become

1444
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: imperative that you can tackle as a corner because they're

1445
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: going to put you in run fits, They're going to

1446
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: leave you alone block everybody else and make you be

1447
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 2: the force player. But it's also done, is it's It's

1448
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: created a need and a desire to have wide receivers

1449
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: that can do what the Rams have done, which is

1450
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: get guys who can dig out linebackers and who can

1451
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: be physical presence in the run game there as well

1452
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: from those tight splits. So, you know, I think all

1453
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: that stuff kind of you know, factors into a little

1454
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: bit of evolution and a little bit of change there.

1455
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: But I still think when I think of an X,

1456
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: I still think third down, red zone. I'd like to

1457
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: have somebody who can win one on one out there.

1458
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1459
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: Yep.

1460
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 3: Next question is from Mike payton a to Z Sports

1461
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: in Detroit.

1462
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 4: Thanks.

1463
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 46: Thanks, Danielis this is great. I'm curious about it. The

1464
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 46: WANs are looking for somebody that generally is like a

1465
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 46: Swiss army knife, has a lot of positional versatility, can

1466
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 46: do a lot of different things. Who do you see

1467
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 46: in this in this draft, whether it's on offense or defense,

1468
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 46: that really sticks out kind of later in the in

1469
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 46: the draft, you know, second round beyond that that just

1470
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 46: can do a bunch of different things.

1471
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: Well defensively I mentioned to guests of all the different

1472
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: things he can do. Uh, you know, he's someone who

1473
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball is a defensive

1474
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: tackle who every now and then will kick out and

1475
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: just be a big, massive edge rusher. But then on offense,

1476
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: he's a wildcat quarterback. He's an h back, he's a wing,

1477
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: he runs the ball, he's you know, that's that's one

1478
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: of the more fun versatile pieces in this year's draft

1479
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: when I look at, you know, a weapon offensively, you know,

1480
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 2: if you're going to go down the line in the draft,

1481
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: I think there's a fun one in what he marks

1482
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 2: out of USC as someone who can really catch the

1483
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 2: ball out of the backfield. He's got a ton of

1484
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: production going back to Mississippi State. He's some one that

1485
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 2: I think can can can be a little bit of

1486
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: a mismatch player there with what he can do. So

1487
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: a couple of different things for him, trying to think

1488
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: of the other tight ends maybe that could do some

1489
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: other things well. The one of the one one of

1490
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: the guys that I'm so fascinated about in the draft.

1491
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: He's not going to the combine, which I was bummed about,

1492
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: but Willie Lampkin from from North Carolina, who's he's a wrestler.

1493
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: He's five ten and a half two hundred and seventy

1494
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: five pounds center who you just look at him on

1495
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 2: paper and then you maybe go out there and watch

1496
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: him warm up and you're like, there's no way this

1497
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 2: guy can physically hold up. But he does. He just

1498
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: plays with leverage and strength and power. He's a good

1499
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: football player. Did not get invited to the combine. I

1500
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 2: was bummed because I wanted to see him work out

1501
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: as a as a tight end. I wouldn't mind seeing

1502
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: him work out as a defensive tackle. I wouldn't mind

1503
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: seeing him work out as a fullback. I do the

1504
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: Charger games. I've seen Scott Mattlock was a D lineman's

1505
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 2: who's converted a fullback. I've seen card with the Ravens.

1506
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: So Willie Lampkin to me is, uh, that's a fun

1507
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: that's a fun toy to play with. I don't know

1508
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: exactly what his role is going to be at the

1509
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: next level, but he's a fun player.

1510
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 34: Thanks Kanny.

1511
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 46: I actually missed the name of the first guy you said.

1512
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: If you could say, oh gosh, wasn't what he marks?

1513
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: Was it?

1514
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 47: No?

1515
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: It was the defense guy who could Oh yeah, JJ

1516
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: Piguetz from from Ole, Miss Great. Thank you, sure.

1517
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 3: Next question is from Chris Bumbaka of USA Today.

1518
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:29,759
Speaker 9: What's up, Daniel.

1519
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this. I hope you're doing well.

1520
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 48: Cam Skataboo is obviously a guy who had a big

1521
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 48: coming out party in the college Football Playoff and had

1522
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 48: a great season. But what does he need to do

1523
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 48: over you know, at the combine and maybe had his

1524
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 48: pro date depending on if he works out to keep

1525
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 48: rising up draft boards.

1526
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 2: In your opinion, well, he's uh, he's a unique player,

1527
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 2: like just when you watch him. Obviously the incredible run

1528
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: that he went on, but yeah, I would was looking

1529
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: at my notes on him when I was putting this

1530
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: stuff in last night from my notebook, and I said, this,

1531
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: he just chooses violence, like I don't know if I've

1532
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: ever seen a more aggressive runner who just seeks out

1533
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: contact and who can absorb contact. When I was looking

1534
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: for a comp for him, my first thought was, Okay,

1535
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: he's like kind of like a shrunk down James Connor,

1536
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, gosh, more than anything else, he

1537
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 2: just reminds me of a plink Ot chip from from

1538
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: The Price is Right of just like bouncing off everything

1539
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: and everybody. But you know the thing with him is,

1540
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: you know we know we can catch it. We know

1541
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: obviously the vision, the balance, the toughness. The only questions

1542
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: is going to be the top speed, So you know,

1543
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: if he has a chance, you know, I think to me,

1544
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 2: he looked like he probably be a low four to

1545
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 2: six guy if he if he were running the four fives,

1546
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: that would be great, that would really help himself out.

1547
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: But he's a y. She is such a fun player

1548
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: to watch and whoever gets him is going to have

1549
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 2: one of the most aggressive and physical runners that we've

1550
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: seen the last few years. So he's a fun one.

1551
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: Next question is from Dave Naylor of TSN.

1552
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 19: Daniel a couple of Canadian players in attendance at the combine.

1553
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 19: I know Curtis works not going to work out, but

1554
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 19: I understand he'll be there. And Alec I'm onar from

1555
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 19: the receiver from Stanford, if you could kind of give

1556
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 19: us your take on both those players at this point

1557
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 19: and obviously understanding the rourkesa comes with the injury.

1558
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. Well, I mean the first time

1559
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: I noticed Stanford receiver when I'm watching Colorado last year

1560
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: and holy moly, he had monster game there. That was

1561
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 2: when he kind of jumped on my scene a little bit,

1562
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: and he had two hundred ninety plus yards in that game,

1563
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: a good bit of it on Travis Hunter, my dad.

1564
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: So he was that's when he jumped on my radar,

1565
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: but outside big time burst in his release. I thought

1566
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: he was better on the move. I keep him on

1567
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: the go. He's a little bit sticky at the top

1568
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: of routes working back downhill, but I thought he's he's

1569
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: someone who runs through the ball, which I which I

1570
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: like to see if talked about that a little bit,

1571
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: being kind of grounded through the catch. The issue with

1572
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: him just kind of contact drops, like you just want

1573
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: to see when he gets kind of those combat catch opportunities,

1574
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: just being a little stronger and finishing on those. But

1575
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: I think he's going to run really well. He's got

1576
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: excellent size, So I'm excited to see him once we

1577
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: get to once we get to Indianapolis, and then with Rourke,

1578
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, gosh, and I guess that's not

1579
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: a surprise in Canada with the hockey Hockey Nation, the

1580
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 2: toughness and all that stuff, like this dude playing the

1581
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: whole season with and torn acl is pretty incredible. A

1582
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 2: little bit older at twenty four years old, but someone

1583
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: who's good in the RPO game. He's got a good

1584
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 2: pocket feel, he's quick through progressions. I like the fact

1585
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: he's got a nice like quiet deliveries, not real, you know,

1586
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 2: violent or aggressive as a throw. He's just very poised.

1587
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: You know, the question is going to be, you know,

1588
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 2: how much real pop does he have? How much arm

1589
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: strength does he does he have there? But I love

1590
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: the size, you know, obviously, the toughness speaks for itself.

1591
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 6: Where do you see Alec.

1592
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 34: Playing in the NFL?

1593
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 19: Where do you see him lining up?

1594
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: Well, I think he'll be outside. I think he'll be

1595
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: an ex receiver. I think that's where's he's best suited.

1596
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 34: Thank you.

1597
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right

1598
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting Combine

1599
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: conference call.

1600
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 3: Next question is from Jared Feinberg of Panthers Wire.

1601
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: Hey, Daniel, so you had Jalen Walker as one of

1602
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: your top ten prospects on your big board going into

1603
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: next week's combine.

1604
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 3: Do you believe he.

1605
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: Should be more of a pure edge rusher or does

1606
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: he fit more of what Andrew Van Geikeel and Frankie

1607
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: Louvi does play wise, those are interesting comps. I think

1608
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 2: he can play in that role. To me, I just

1609
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: think I think you can. I think you can do

1610
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: so many different things, and I don't, you know, I

1611
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: think some things are going to say why I'm not

1612
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 2: going to just put him in one spot. I'm going

1613
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 2: to let him do a bunch of different things as

1614
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: those teams do with those guys. So that's that's real.

1615
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 2: I think that's a possibility. I just would love to

1616
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: see given the opportunity to just be a full time

1617
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: rusher off the edge. I know he's not, you know,

1618
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: six foot five, you know, ideal frame out there, I

1619
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 2: think he's going to be a nightmare to block if

1620
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 2: you just cut him loose and let him rush like that.

1621
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 2: So that's what I would do. Everything's going to be

1622
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: dependent on what scheme you're in and who your defensive

1623
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: coordinator is. But I think this guy's double digit sacks

1624
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: off the edge, and I don't think his you know,

1625
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: lack of that ideal size is an issue at all

1626
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: against a run. He's so strong and stout, I think

1627
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: he'd be I think he'd be hell on wheels out there.

1628
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 2: So that's what I would do with him. But again,

1629
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: if you have a defense that wants to deploy guys differently,

1630
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's a whole lot he can't do.

1631
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, Daniel Ye.

1632
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 3: Next question is from Rishi Sharma of td Labs.

1633
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 49: Hey there, Daniel, thanks so much for taking my question.

1634
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 49: I'm a small content creator for Canada trying to get

1635
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 49: draft news to more Canadians. I got a too harder

1636
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,879
Speaker 49: here really. The first one is I've done some research

1637
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 49: and I haven't seen Tyler. I've seen Tyler Warren ranked

1638
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 49: top five and Loveland ranked top seven in your top

1639
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 49: one hundred. Haven't seen tight Ends since probably Bowers in

1640
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 49: twenty twenty four and Pitts from twenty twenty one ranked

1641
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 49: that high. What do you say about Tyler Warren? That's

1642
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 49: his X factor? And is Rob Gronkowski a little bit

1643
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 49: of a far off player comp in terms of what

1644
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 49: he can be if he used to hit his ceiling?

1645
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 49: And the second part is here this is a Dallas

1646
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 49: Cowboys focus question. You have genty mock to the Cowboys,

1647
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 49: And now my concern is the amount of touches. Is

1648
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 49: this something you look at when you look at your valuations.

1649
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 49: He has around seven hundred and fifty and someone like

1650
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 49: Gibbs is coming into the league with four hundred. I'm

1651
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 49: a little bit concerned with drafting it back like that

1652
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 49: after I've seen what happened to Ezekiel Elliott after a

1653
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 49: couple of years of being in the NFL.

1654
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: Sure, good questions. I'll start with the tight end stuff.

1655
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: Look this draft at the very very top. I mean,

1656
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: I've got Abdil Carter, Travis Hunter up there, but it's

1657
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: not a draft where you have, you know, ten like

1658
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: I had a higher grade on brock Bowers. Is what

1659
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: I will just cut to the chase there than than

1660
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 2: I did on these tight ends. I really like both

1661
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: of them, though we don't have quite the same top

1662
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: end depth that we've had in years past. But Tyler

1663
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: Warren is my fifth overall player because his mixture of

1664
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: just size, physicality. He's uh, he just walls guys off.

1665
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: He looks like a billboard rolling down the seam. He's enormous.

1666
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: He's got a huge catch radius. He he is so

1667
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: physical and tough with the ball in his hands after

1668
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: the catch. They use him, you know, on the wildcat stuff,

1669
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 2: and use him as a runner and do those different

1670
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: things because he's just he's a really hard guy to

1671
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: get on the ground. You know, there are I look

1672
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: at tight ends and you know you kind of look

1673
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 2: at the Gronk tree and the Kelsey tree, like if

1674
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 2: you're stylistically the difference between those two guys. I think

1675
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: it's well represented in this draft where you've got Tyler Warren,

1676
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: who represents more of the Gronk type, who's going to

1677
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: be better on the move, you know, crossers, seams, get

1678
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands, make people tackle him, Whereas

1679
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: when you look at Lovelin, it's a little more Kelsey.

1680
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: It's a little more you know, option routes, getting in

1681
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: and out of breaks, a little more fluid, and someone

1682
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: who can make you miss after the catch, but not

1683
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 2: you know, not quite as physical a player there as

1684
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: you have there with Tyler Warren. So those are the

1685
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: two tight ends that I think, are you know, two

1686
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: of the top seven players in this year's draft class

1687
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys and genty Yeah, I mean, look, workload

1688
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 2: is it's something that you look at. But I mean,

1689
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know, I know Ezekiel Elliott didn't

1690
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 2: you know, on the second contract, did not get the

1691
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys what they wanted, But that's a that's a heck

1692
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: of a run. I don't know how many how many

1693
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: teams would be disappointed with that type of impact if

1694
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: they were to get out of a draft pick. You know,

1695
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: to have that type of that type of elite player,

1696
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: even if it's for a handful of years, I think

1697
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: would constitute a great pick. Thanks so much, Daniel Ye.

1698
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 3: Next question is from Eric Smith of Chargers dot Com. I,

1699
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 3: dij I think, thanks as always for doing this with

1700
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: the Chargers at pick twenty two.

1701
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 48: How would you prioritize their needs heading into year two

1702
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 48: with Jim Harbor and Joe Ortiz.

1703
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: Thanks man, Look, I look at the interior of the

1704
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: offensive line would be the top for me, and that's

1705
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, something you can address with

1706
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: free agency and the draft, and I think getting more

1707
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 2: weapons offensively, you know, get getting a you know, ideally

1708
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 2: you get a big time tight end to go along

1709
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: with some you know, some juice in the backfield at

1710
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 2: running back, someone that you can find with some real

1711
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: burst and then uh, you know, someone to add to

1712
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: the receiver room who's got some explosiveness. So you know,

1713
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: I referenced the Lions a little bit earlier Eric about

1714
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: you know, doing the big things first and then go

1715
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: and get in the speed and the explosiveness. I still

1716
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: think there's a little work to be done on the

1717
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: big side, and they've got defensive tackle situation. With free agency,

1718
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'd love to see him bring back pun

1719
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: a Ford there. But you know, this draft is is

1720
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 2: matched up pretty well with their needs. And you know,

1721
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: tiior defensive line, tiior offensive line, tight end, running back.

1722
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,919
Speaker 2: I think those are all areas that can be addressed

1723
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: through free agency and through the draft. And I think

1724
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: where they're picking, you know, there's a chance you could

1725
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: be looking at Lovelin, which would be a great pick there.

1726
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: I love Omar and Hampton from North Carolina. If you

1727
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 2: want to go with the running back, I think that's

1728
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: a that's a great pick there, someone who could give

1729
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: them some some burst as well as the physicality all

1730
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: kind of wrapped up in one. So there's your tight end,

1731
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 2: there's your there's your running back, and then interior offensive line.

1732
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: I don't think Booker gets there. That would be a

1733
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: run the card up for me because I just think, man,

1734
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: you continue to invest in that interior offensive line. Uh,

1735
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: he'd be a he'd be a really good fit there

1736
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: with his size, physical reality, character, intelligence, all that stuff.

1737
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 2: He's he's someone who checks every box. So I think

1738
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna I think you have a really really good

1739
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,480
Speaker 2: player there for him in one of those spots, and

1740
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: and I think that's up to them to figure out

1741
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: how in free agency to support compliment what they're going

1742
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 2: to do.

1743
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 3: Next question is from Blaine Grissick of Turf Show Times.

1744
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 50: Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this. Just kind of look

1745
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 50: at at the back half of the first round. It

1746
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 50: kind of seems like that the area twenty to forty

1747
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 50: is a bit of a dead zone of purgatory a

1748
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 50: little bit. Do you see and as many a lot

1749
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 50: of teams maybe trying to maybe trying to trade back.

1750
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 50: You see enough team is trying to trade up where

1751
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 50: you can get out of that range, and they're just

1752
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 50: kind of looking at jday Baron. I know you had

1753
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 50: him ranked pretty highly. Do you think he kind of

1754
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 50: gets maybe the Kuber Dejenie treatment where teams see him

1755
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 50: as a nickel and he and we're sitting here in

1756
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 50: a year a year from now saying how did he

1757
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 50: how did he fall fall to like forty or something?

1758
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 2: Like that, Yeah, I've had this conversation with a team

1759
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: about this very subject because and I will say, I'm

1760
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: higher on Baron than just about every team I've talked to.

1761
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: I love the way that he plays. I just do.

1762
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: And I think that, uh, well, this is what I've

1763
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: said to teams. I'm like, look, you guys, blew it

1764
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 2: on Branch. You guys, let Branch fall to the second round.

1765
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: The league, we the league collectively blew it on Cooper

1766
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 2: Dejene let him fall to the second round. Is this

1767
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: gonna happen again?

1768
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 25: Like?

1769
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: Are we gonna let Baron fall? Because we're not going

1770
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: to give credit to someone who's going to be on

1771
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: the field the whole game as someone who's going to

1772
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: be a nickel. We're going to play, you know, in

1773
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: that different roles he can play. Can be your dime linebacker,

1774
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: be your nickel. I think he could survive outside if

1775
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: if you needed him to. That's not going to be

1776
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: where his specialty is. But somebody that may that it's

1777
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 2: a sure tackler that has instincts, that takes the football away.

1778
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: That's an outstanding blitzer. And I look at the teams

1779
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 2: that are you know, in the playoffs and guys that

1780
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 2: can fill that role, can play that role for teams.

1781
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: I saw it, you know, I see it with Derwin

1782
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: James as someone who can play in that in that spot.

1783
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: You look at obviously Cooper Degene coming off of the

1784
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl there, the Chiefs with McDuffie had someone that

1785
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, he's outside he played. He can be a

1786
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 2: difference maker in that role and has been in the past.

1787
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: The Ravens obviously, when you have the size and physicality

1788
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 2: they have that they can put down in there in

1789
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: that spot. I think there's value to it. I think

1790
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 2: he's a great player. I don't necessarily understand the uh,

1791
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, the lack of value there for him around

1792
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: the league, But I guess we'll have to see what

1793
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: shakes out there. And then what was the what was

1794
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: the other one about the options of being able to

1795
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 2: trade back? Is that what you're saying, Yeah.

1796
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 50: He's about twenty or forty range kinds seems like a

1797
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 50: bit of a predatory, like are they gonna have teams

1798
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 50: that maybe you want to trade up in that range

1799
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 50: where teams can have the option to trade back.

1800
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: The one thing I would keep an eye on is

1801
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: if you have some teams with tackle needs depending on

1802
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: what happens with the dependent what happens with the Ravens,

1803
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: you know, with Ronnie Stanley, they could be one that

1804
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: could potentially move up. The Chiefs, you know, depending on

1805
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 2: where their comfort level is with their their roster. Left

1806
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: tackle could be an area they could address. So I

1807
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 2: try and look at maybe Shall Pools and where there

1808
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: would be a need to move up. I would say,

1809
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 2: keep an eye on the offensive tackle market and maybe

1810
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 2: that could drive some movement.

1811
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: Next question is from River Wells a Bucks game day.

1812
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 51: Hey there, Daniel, thanks for doing this. The Buccaneers have

1813
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 51: a lot of different needs. A lot of them are

1814
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 51: on defense at a lot of different levels. And Todd

1815
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 51: Bowles likes to run covering three, a lot of different

1816
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 51: blitzer in different fronts and looks. When you look at

1817
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 51: some of these defensive players and kind of where the

1818
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 51: Bucks are going to draft at around nineteen, what do

1819
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 51: you think of some of the best fits for this

1820
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 51: sort of Todd Bowls defense?

1821
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, aggressive guys that can blitz from anywhere. Look, John

1822
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Campbell would be sure as heck fun to watch there,

1823
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: just with all the different things he can do and

1824
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 2: fast and explosive and smart. That's a good combination for

1825
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 2: him for Coach Bowls to be able to play with there.

1826
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 2: So that's the first game that just jumped off the

1827
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: top of my head here when I'm thinking about those

1828
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 2: types of players. Williams from Georgia would be another one.

1829
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 2: Can you can do a lot of different things with

1830
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: him in terms of rushing him inside, rushing him outside.

1831
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 2: He's athletic enough if you want to drop him, he

1832
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: can do a lot of those things as well. So

1833
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 2: those are a couple of names to me that that

1834
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 2: just kind of jump out as pretty dynamic players that

1835
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 2: are you know. I love it when you have pass

1836
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 2: rushers that can win from different entry points, and I

1837
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 2: think those guys can both win from a variety of

1838
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 2: entry points. Thank you.

1839
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Next question is from Richard Silva of Detroit News and.

1840
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 2: You'll appreciate your time.

1841
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 46: I think the popular thought probably with the lines at

1842
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 46: twenty eight is edge rusher.

1843
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 48: But if they do pass up on that, who are

1844
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 48: some guys in range at sixty they think could be available?

1845
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty for edge rushers, you know, I kind of

1846
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: mentioned it. Uman Malayan from from Old miss is right

1847
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 2: in that range. I have I'm not quite as high

1848
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 2: on Nick scourt and as some other people are, so

1849
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 2: that that's his range for me. And again I like him.

1850
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: He's a good player, and you know, I just know

1851
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 2: a lot of people talk about him as a first

1852
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 2: round pick and and he very well could be. But

1853
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: he's in that range for me. You've got you know,

1854
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 2: Kyle Kinard, You've got Twey Molole from Ohio State. It's

1855
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,839
Speaker 2: a good group. There's a there's a lot of options

1856
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 2: there and uh and still you can get guys that

1857
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 2: can that can come in and start. I've talked about

1858
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 2: this detackle how deep it is. The edge group's pretty

1859
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 2: deep as well.

1860
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 3: Next question is from Darien Hopkins of the Las Vegas Raiders.

1861
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 9: Talk how you doing, DJ?

1862
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 52: How you doing today?

1863
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 2: Sarry done great, Thanks for thanks for hopping on. Appreciate it.

1864
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 2: Quick question.

1865
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 53: I know there is a lot of uncertainty with the

1866
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 53: quarterback position for the Las Vegas Raiders. It has been

1867
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 53: a lot of rumors of the Raiders moving up to

1868
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 53: get a top quarterback. Now, if they don't decide to

1869
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 53: get a trade up to get the top quarterback, what

1870
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 53: would be the option at number six for the Las

1871
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 53: Vegas Raiders and what positions would be the best fit

1872
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 53: for that number six overall.

1873
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 2: Bit, Yeah, they could go on in several different directions.

1874
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 2: You know, you look at some of their needs. You know,

1875
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: obviously the core stands out, but corner, uh is an

1876
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 2: area depending on how you how comfortable they are with

1877
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 2: with Will Johnson. I'm a Baron Baron fan, but I

1878
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 2: haven't talked to teams that would be as comfortable all

1879
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: the way up there at that point in time, I'd

1880
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: be a little early, So that that's one area you

1881
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 2: could look. I think they could just go though, you know,

1882
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 2: kind of best available defensive player, you know, I don't

1883
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 2: think you can go wrong there. Walker is a fun one.

1884
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 2: We've talked a ton about him from Georgia. I know

1885
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 2: Tom Brady is gonna know everything ins and outs about

1886
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 2: Mason Graham. Christian Wilkins and Mason Graham would be kind

1887
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 2: of a fun pairing with with Max on the outside.

1888
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 2: So there's, uh, there's different directions, different areas they could

1889
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: go there. But uh, you know, they've got to figure

1890
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 2: out the quarterback thing at some point in time via

1891
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: free agency or whether they're gonna do it right here

1892
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: at six or or whether they want to try and

1893
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 2: take a flyer on somebody, you know, outside the top

1894
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: of the draft. So I do I do have my

1895
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 2: uh did have my antenna up because I have to

1896
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 2: go back and double check. But uh, I'm trying to

1897
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 2: remember if what Chip Kelly's connection was with Dylan Gabriel.

1898
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 2: Maybe is a down the line option for them at quarterback,

1899
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure they're familiar with each other. Thank you,

1900
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Sarah yep.

1901
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: Next question is from Casey Kenneman of Orange and Brown Report.

1902
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 11: By all indications, the Browns are going to lean back

1903
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 11: into Kevin Stefanski's willhouse with the wide zone scheme and

1904
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,799
Speaker 11: play action from under center elements. This is a terrific

1905
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 11: running back class, which running backs you see is the

1906
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 11: best fit for the wide zone and kind of give

1907
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 11: me some of the characteristics of each one.

1908
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, there's again I mentioned the depth of this

1909
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: running back class. The first one that just popped right

1910
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 2: into my head was is is Caleb Johnson from Iowa

1911
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: someone who I just think is he's that one cut,

1912
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, foot in the ground, speed and go, he's

1913
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 2: got he's got excellent vision. He's not going to be

1914
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 2: a real you know like nifty in and out guy.

1915
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 2: He's just gonna see it and go and he's got

1916
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: he's got burst and he's got long speed. So that

1917
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 2: would be the first one that kind of popped into

1918
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: my mind. You know other ones. You know, Hampton obviously

1919
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 2: would fit into that as a big explosive guy. I

1920
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 2: think he's a little more loose than than Johnson, but

1921
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: that would would fit there as well. Gosh, there's Dylan Sampson,

1922
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: not the biggest guy in the world, a little bit

1923
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 2: undersized out of Tennessee, but uh, you know he's he's again.

1924
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: He can get to the he can get to the perimeter,

1925
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 2: get get north and south and go. He's got big time,

1926
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 2: big time burst. I don't think he's gonna time as

1927
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: fast as he plays. He plays plenty fast. Those are

1928
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 2: some guys that that kind of jump out to me.

1929
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: But I mean the too Ohio State guys can play

1930
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 2: in any scheme. With Judkins and Henderson, and with with

1931
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 2: those two individually, Judkins is like a he's a finisher.

1932
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 2: Like you watch the end of the Penn State game,

1933
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: he's their four minute back and he just salts the

1934
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 2: game away. He's got balance, strength, power, passing, game wise

1935
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 2: more screens, checked down type, whereas Henderson is one of

1936
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 2: the best pass protecting backs that I've evaluated. He is

1937
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: exceptional in that regard. And then he can run routes,

1938
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: he can pluck it, and he can hit home runs

1939
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: out of the backfield. He's not quite as good of

1940
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: a dirty runner inside as as Judkins is, but definitely

1941
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 2: a home run hitter who in that in that system Again,

1942
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 2: stretch and then and then get up the field and

1943
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 2: use your speed and then be a factor in the

1944
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 2: passing game. Traveon Henderson is is outstanding. So I mean,

1945
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 2: and I go on, there's there's a bunch of backs

1946
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 2: third third round type probably third fourth round for someone

1947
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 2: like Trevor e Tn is another one that I like.

1948
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 2: So again, it's a long list, all right, Thanks DJ yep.

1949
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: Next question is from Zach Goodle of Swamp two four seven.

1950
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 54: Hey, Daniel, I'm curious for your impressions of Florida's draft class.

1951
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 54: They're sending nine guys to the combine after two last year. Obviously,

1952
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 54: don't need to get into each one, but maybe some

1953
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 54: of the standouts to you, and in particular Graham Mertz

1954
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 54: with the quarterback class and if the play that he

1955
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 54: put together at Florida after a little bit up and

1956
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 54: down at Wisconsin changed his trajectory at all.

1957
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll start with Mertz. To me, I

1958
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 2: had him more of as a you know, late round

1959
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 2: priority free agent. You know, he is a little bit older,

1960
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 2: which a lot of these guys are, was twenty four.

1961
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 2: But you know, I like the way he threw the

1962
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: ball on the move. I thought he held the ball

1963
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: a little bit long. I thought he got a little

1964
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 2: bit jumpy at times in the pocket, and I just

1965
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 2: thought there were times where I just like to see

1966
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 2: him just throw a little more trajectory. He just kind

1967
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: of threw a flat ball. But by all accounts talking

1968
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 2: to the folks there about you know, he's just a

1969
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 2: he's a great dude. He's really really bright. So if

1970
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 2: he can kind of just pass the threshold, you know,

1971
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: as a thrower, I think he's got a chance to,

1972
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 2: you know, an opportunity maybe as a practice squad or

1973
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 2: hang on to a roster as a backup. But to me,

1974
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 2: he was he was more kind of a late round

1975
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,839
Speaker 2: guy or free with some of these other Florida guys.

1976
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Cameron Jackson is enormous kind of unique to see a

1977
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 2: detackle with six six and a half three hundred and

1978
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 2: forty pounds. He more of a flash player than someone

1979
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: who's real consistent. I thought he played on his heels

1980
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 2: a little bit much, but he can stack blocks. He's

1981
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 2: got real strong hands, and I thought he played with

1982
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 2: good block awareness. So anyways, interesting package with him with

1983
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 2: his size. And then I'll just give you a couple

1984
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,959
Speaker 2: more here Badger the receiver. I like that he's inside outside,

1985
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 2: he's instinctive settles and zones. He can win with quicks

1986
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 2: against press. He tracks the ball easy. I thought his

1987
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 2: his his frame. You know, he caught the ball and

1988
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 2: played bigger than his size, so I thought he was,

1989
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 2: you know, fourth round type player. And then give you

1990
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 2: one more here, just with Shamar James, a linebacker. You know,

1991
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: first tape you watches against Miami has nice play against

1992
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: Cammore to pick one off there. You can use him

1993
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 2: in a variety of ways. You can spy him. He's

1994
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 2: got range, the perimeter, he can harry and cover down

1995
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 2: the steam. I just thought, you know, physicality wise, he

1996
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 2: got stuck on some blocks and got swallowed a little

1997
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 2: bit inside, So a little bit more of a Day

1998
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 2: three guy for me, but but someone who's got a chance.

1999
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 3: Next question is from Patrick Brown of two four to

2000
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 3: seven Sports.

2001
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 55: I want to ask you about a couple of Tennessee guys.

2002
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 55: You already touched on Samson, so we could circle back

2003
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 55: to James Pierce Cheen or something he mentioned earlier was

2004
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 55: that there was a pretty wide range to where he

2005
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 55: could go. He obviously going into the season, was projected

2006
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 55: near maybe the top of the draft. So what did

2007
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 55: you think, how did you sort of evaluate his play

2008
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 55: this season? And thank you for doing this.

2009
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, teams are are just kind of split on him,

2010
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,679
Speaker 2: just kind of you get stuff all over the map.

2011
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 2: He is, you know, he is a kind of a

2012
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 2: unique player because of his frame and his build. But gosh,

2013
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 2: when I watch him, he's just really really explosive. Again,

2014
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 2: I mentioned those kind of those first three steps. Those

2015
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 2: are the ones that that that jump out to me.

2016
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 2: He reminds me, Gosh, I'm the name is I have

2017
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 2: all these draft names in my head, so the current

2018
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 2: guys end up escaping me. But Leonard Floyd, you know,

2019
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 2: the tall, long, rangy edge rusher, That's kind of who

2020
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 2: he reminds me of as a player. So he's he's

2021
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 2: a good one. Omar or Norman Lott the DT. He

2022
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: can he plays with power through edges. He's kind of

2023
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 2: funky in that he's got a unique rush as someone

2024
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 2: in there who's he'll use a euro step at times.

2025
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 2: He can cross your face. I didn't think he was

2026
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 2: ultra ultra dynamic, but he just got a lot of

2027
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 2: ways to kind of win in there. I gave him,

2028
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 2: you know what, was a third round grade. Elijah Simmons

2029
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 2: the other DT's three hundred and forty pounds, just massive,

2030
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 2: can sit there and plug and hold the point of attack,

2031
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 2: easy holds up doubles. Not much of a pass rusher,

2032
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: more just push the pocket. I'm always rip of these

2033
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 2: last two. Bru McCoy seen him since high school, at

2034
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 2: modern day and at USC just you know, durabilities the

2035
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 2: is the knock there. But he's big, he's physical, He's

2036
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna look great just watching him move around

2037
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: the warm ups, contract the ball, he's physical after the catch.

2038
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 2: Just uh, you know, durability and staying healthy is the

2039
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 2: is the issue there. And then Thornton, you know size, speed,

2040
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: you know they he caught a zillion of those those

2041
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 2: bang eights those skinny posts in that offense with that

2042
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 2: real row wide split. He tracks the ball. Well, I

2043
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: just thought it was a route running he telegraph a

2044
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 2: little bit and uh, just like to see a little

2045
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 2: bit more precision there, a little more and a little

2046
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: more uh intention there as a route runner and uh

2047
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 2: and I didn't know after the catch if there was

2048
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 2: much wiggle, just kind of more of a runaway from.

2049
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 9: You guy, appreciate it.

2050
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be

2051
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 2: right back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting

2052
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Combine Conference call.

2053
01:40:55,800 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Next question is Dustin Adams on a disease sports in Indianapolis.

2054
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 21: Hi.

2055
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 2: Daniel thinks of taking the time today, no problem.

2056
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,560
Speaker 56: So for the Cult, they have some clear needs in

2057
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 56: the secondary with some younger pieces in the mold and

2058
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 56: then making the defensive philosophy switch with Louis Arumo coming

2059
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 56: over as the coordinator. What are your thoughts, I guess

2060
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 56: on the day one and day two prospects at corner

2061
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 56: and at safety, especially in terms of being able to

2062
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 56: play in like the deep safety role.

2063
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: Sure, deep safety role. I mean Starks fits that out

2064
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: of Georgia. He's someone that can play in the nickel,

2065
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 2: can play high as the safety, so that one would

2066
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 2: would be the first one I would talk about as

2067
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 2: someone who can range and play over the top. Xavier

2068
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 2: Wats is another one from Notre Dame who fits in there.

2069
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 2: One of one of my favorite guys in the safety

2070
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 2: group who's gonna, you know, third fourth round, maybe you

2071
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 2: get him in the fourth round is Craig Woodson from CAL.

2072
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 2: He he plays in the deep path, he can play downhill,

2073
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 2: he can open, he's a smooth mover, he's got speed,

2074
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: he's a firm tackler, and he's really really smart and

2075
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 2: talking to the folks at CAL, they rave about his

2076
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 2: intelligence and leadership. So he's someone I'm big on trust

2077
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 2: in the back end, and I think he's someone you

2078
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 2: get in the third fourth round that I would trust

2079
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 2: putting back there real early in his career. Corner wise,

2080
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 2: for a little more of the depth guys talked about.

2081
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Trey Amos is one of my favorites at an Old

2082
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 2: miss Parish, Kansas State in terms of like having some tools,

2083
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 2: some raw tools to work with, but you've got to

2084
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 2: be a little bit patient. Darien Porter from Iowa State

2085
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: hightweight speed. He can play the ball down the field.

2086
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 2: He just is a little bit tight, but you've got

2087
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 2: some things to work with there. Another cow kid, Noel Williams,

2088
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 2: who's got a ton of production and I think is

2089
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 2: he's ready to play right away. You can watch the

2090
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 2: Auburn game with him.

2091
01:42:58,800 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 25: You can.

2092
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 2: He had three picks in that game, picked off cam

2093
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 2: Ward to pick six against cam Ward in that game.

2094
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 2: Real feisty, physical, maybe a little quicker than fast. We'll

2095
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 2: see what he runs. But he's another one kind of

2096
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 2: in that third fourth round range. So there's you know,

2097
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 2: there's some interesting names there that I think would that

2098
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 2: would fit what they're doing.

2099
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 3: Next question is Mooki Alexander from SB Nation.

2100
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 57: Hi there, Daniel, thank you for this really enlightening conference call.

2101
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 57: The big story up here in the Pacific Northwest regarding

2102
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 57: the Seattle Seahawks is whether or not they extend Geno

2103
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 57: Smith and keep him as a starter in twenty twenty five.

2104
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,480
Speaker 57: But even if he does stay, there is the possibility

2105
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 57: that Seattle could actually draft a quarterback this year, which

2106
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 57: is something they've only done twice ever under John Schneider.

2107
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 57: There are a lot of options, seemingly in the late

2108
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 57: day one day two even day three range, and the

2109
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 57: most common names I've seen mock drafted to Seattle are

2110
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 57: Will Howard of Ohio State, Calum McCord of Syracuse, Quin

2111
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 57: Eyears of Texas, and Jackson Dart of Ole, miss whom

2112
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 57: I believe you it suggests it could even be an

2113
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,520
Speaker 57: option for Seattle at number eighteen. So with the expectation

2114
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 57: of a run oriented, play action based more under center

2115
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 57: offense under Clint Kubiak, which of those quarterbacks do you believe

2116
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 57: best fits the new Seattle offense.

2117
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that. Look. Coffee would probably a little

2118
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 2: bit rich for me at eighteen. For Jackson Dart, I

2119
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 2: have him in the forties, but he's my third quarterback there.

2120
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 2: And I just kind of ripped through some of these

2121
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 2: guys and I tell you about him, and then I'll

2122
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 2: just kind of wrap it up with with who I

2123
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 2: think could make some sense for what they're doing. But

2124
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: you know, Will Howard had the hot playoff run. He's

2125
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 2: got obviously the size almost six four two and forty pounds,

2126
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 2: ultra competitive kid. I love the fact that he wonted

2127
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 2: two spots at k State and then obviously this year

2128
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, he's a touch thrower. He's quick to

2129
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,560
Speaker 2: get to number three in his read. You know, the

2130
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 2: big question is just going to be the arm strength.

2131
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:58,719
Speaker 2: You know, I had a couple, you know, a couple

2132
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 2: of brain cramps during the year, but I thought he

2133
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 2: cleaned all that stuff up. You know, everybody's gonna look

2134
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 2: at the Oregon game, the first meeting, you know, with

2135
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 2: running the clock out there at the end of that

2136
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 2: ball game, and you know, some turnovers against against Penn State.

2137
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 2: But I thought he got better and throughout the year.

2138
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 2: I just want to see him throw live. I've never

2139
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 2: seen him throw live. I want to see what his

2140
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 2: arm looks like. Tyler Schuck from Louisville is older. He's

2141
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 2: twenty five. He's got four degrees, so he's probably gonna

2142
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 2: be as well educated as anybody on your football team.

2143
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 2: I can't imagine anybody having more than that. He can

2144
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 2: drive the ball. He's big and strong. He's another one

2145
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 2: who can get to number three in the progression. He

2146
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: can throw off balance. He's got a lot of arm talent.

2147
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot of lot to like there. One of

2148
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,600
Speaker 2: the things with him is just pocket awareness stuff. He

2149
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 2: bails too much instead of just sliding, shuffling and finding

2150
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 2: space within the pocket. But he's a big, strong dude yours.

2151
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 2: There's there's a few guys that are on my list

2152
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 2: to go back after the combine, after I get some

2153
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 2: time after watching all these guys and go back to

2154
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 2: twenty three tape, because you know, look, I know he

2155
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 2: wasn't helly this year, but he just he did not

2156
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 2: take the step I was hoping he would take. He

2157
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 2: is still young at twenty one, He's got quick feet,

2158
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 2: quick release, but he just he got it a lot

2159
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,799
Speaker 2: of bad habits. I didn't think he played with any conviction,

2160
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 2: just not trusting what he's seeing, got real sloppy with

2161
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 2: his feet, and everything kind of got away from him.

2162
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 2: So the team had tremendous success, and he obviously made

2163
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 2: some big time throws in the playoffs, but overall, the

2164
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 2: not the step forward I was hoping for him. And

2165
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 2: then last one I think you mentioned was Kyle McCord

2166
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 2: from Syracuse reminded me a lot of Derek Carr at Fresno.

2167
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Quick feet, quick eyes, you see some RPO stuff there.

2168
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 2: He's accurate, he's got a touch down the field, he

2169
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 2: can gass it up and give you some velocity when needed,

2170
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 2: just played real aggressive and was a little bit frenetic

2171
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 2: at times and also ran himself into some sacks. So

2172
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:01,839
Speaker 2: all those guys have, you know, different strengths and weaknesses.

2173
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 2: I think they're all intriguing type players. To me, they're

2174
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 2: more ideally you'd love to get them in the third round.

2175
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 2: You know, I think Dart will be gone by them,

2176
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 2: But I think the rest of these guys, that's more

2177
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 2: the range that I have them. But in terms of

2178
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 2: someone you'd want to work with, Gosh, it sounds weird

2179
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 2: even though he's older, but for what they're doing, I mean,

2180
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck to me would be UH would be someone

2181
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 2: I would be interested in maybe taking a flyer on

2182
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 2: there in the third round.

2183
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 57: Very interesting. That was actually gonna be my other question.

2184
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 57: What do you think of Tyler Shuck? But do you

2185
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 57: you your mind reader to an addition.

2186
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:35,799
Speaker 4: To being.

2187
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thanks for your time.

2188
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 3: Next question is from Brandon Kritstl of Guerrilla Sports.

2189
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 39: Hey DJ, first time, long time.

2190
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 47: With some mu's talk about shadur And and Travis Center,

2191
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 47: I was curious what you thought of the other UH

2192
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 47: prospects from see specifically all the white outs obviously a

2193
01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 47: couple more will be at the combine, and then I

2194
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 47: don't think Ull Shepherd will be. And then separately, what

2195
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 47: do you think of the two Jayhawks Devin Neil and

2196
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 47: the Hawk Mamba Kobe Bryant.

2197
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, all right, cool, I'll start. Good

2198
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 2: to hear your voice. By the way, I'll go Colorado.

2199
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean we've I think we've. You know, Travis Hunter is.

2200
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter is like someone took someone went to the

2201
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 2: Philadelphi Eagles and took DeVante's Davante Smith and Darius Slay

2202
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 2: and just like spun him around in a circle and

2203
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 2: they came out as the same human being. He's he's

2204
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:35,879
Speaker 2: he's unique, but wester is you know, for someone who's

2205
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 2: just over five nine hundred and seventy seven pounds, not

2206
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 2: real big, but ultra dynamic explosive. I like the fact

2207
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 2: he had twenty one explosives and only three drops. He's

2208
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 2: sudden getting in and out of breaks. Just gonna have

2209
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 2: to play him in space, you know, that's where his

2210
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 2: game is. And I thought he was, you know, kind

2211
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 2: of in that fourth round range Jimmy Horns a little bit, uh,

2212
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 2: you know, in that same vein I like Wester a

2213
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: little bit more, but Horn a lot of quick hitters.

2214
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 2: He's tough and strong through contact, he can uh uh

2215
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 2: you know, he can really see things, feel things instinctive wise.

2216
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was quite as elusive after the

2217
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:16,759
Speaker 2: catch there, but uh, someone who's uh, you know, definitely

2218
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting down the line player. You didn't

2219
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 2: ask me about Colorado of state guys by the way there.

2220
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 2: I feel like that's, uh, that's not serving your market properly.

2221
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 2: When you have someone that like Tory Horton, who's a really,

2222
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: really good player, I'm just busting your chops.

2223
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 47: And then yeah, I read a chime in on Tory

2224
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 47: Horton too.

2225
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 2: Obviously was banged up a little bit. No, I know,

2226
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 2: he's one of my favorites. You know, I have had

2227
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 2: a chance to go back and watch him in twenty three.

2228
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: But inside outside, smooth mover, he can separate, he can

2229
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: change direction, he's got a big catch radius, knows how

2230
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 2: to play, knows how to work back. I mean, he's

2231
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna see him climb through the spring. You're gonna

2232
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 2: start hearing a lot more about him as he's healthy

2233
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 2: in the spring, and you'll start seeing some buzz building

2234
01:49:55,600 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 2: on him. Let's get to your Jayhawks. I actually I'm

2235
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 2: logan Brown fan. You know, plays their right tackle. He's

2236
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 2: got quick feet, plays a little bit high, But I

2237
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 2: just like the fact that you got somebody that can

2238
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: work up to the second level swallows linebackers. He's got

2239
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: a little nasty edge to him when he's free. When

2240
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 2: he's free, he looks for work. So like that about him.

2241
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 2: Just over extends a little bit at time, something to

2242
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 2: work on. But I liked him to the tune of

2243
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 2: like third fourth round Kobe Bryant. You mentioned it. The

2244
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 2: ball production is excellent. He's lean, he's one hundred and

2245
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: seventy one pounds. I don't love that. But he can

2246
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 2: take the ball away. You know that. The the Houston

2247
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 2: game will show you that. Just watch him and cover three,

2248
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 2: just drive and pull it away. He can. He can

2249
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 2: find the ball with his back to the quarterback, which

2250
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,719
Speaker 2: is very hard to do. He's got really quick feet

2251
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 2: and for someone who's not big and who's light like that,

2252
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 2: although it's always kind of a low tackler, but he's

2253
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: he's got a decent batting average as a tackler. So

2254
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 2: he's again someone I think if he was a little

2255
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 2: bit bigger, we'll be talking about him probably more in

2256
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 2: that you know, second round range. But I think he's

2257
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 2: probably three four is where we see him go oh,

2258
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 2: he want me to I'm just looking through another couple

2259
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,959
Speaker 2: more on the maybe two more. By the way, Dotson

2260
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 2: had the five picks at the other corner zone. Eyes

2261
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 2: sees it well, drives through the receiver to the ball,

2262
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 2: just got out muscled a little bit times. He's the

2263
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 2: Day three guy for me, Devin Neil short step or

2264
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 2: he can make you miss the productions, excellent looks to

2265
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 2: get vertical as fast as possible. I thought he was

2266
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,719
Speaker 2: a little bit quicker than fast. I'm anxious to see

2267
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 2: what he runs. But someone who's definitely a you know,

2268
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 2: valuable option is a check down back and someone who's

2269
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,480
Speaker 2: an efficient runner two hundred and twenty pounds.

2270
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 47: Thanks dj, I'll see an indie if you make it

2271
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 47: all right.

2272
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 2: See but.

2273
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,719
Speaker 3: Nice question is from Matt Ryan of Baltimore Ravens dot Com.

2274
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 1: Hey, Daniel, I appreciate you taking the time. I'm just

2275
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: curious with the defensive line depth in this class, and

2276
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, the top end talent that they have do

2277
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: you think that teams could kind of wait until later

2278
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: rounds just because of you know, how many starter level

2279
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 1: level players there are.

2280
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think there's a couple of

2281
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 2: positions in this draft where that's going to be the discussion.

2282
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 2: When you look at if you are dead set on

2283
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 2: getting a defensive tackle, edge rusher, running back, tight end,

2284
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 2: I think that you have to you know, you have

2285
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 2: to look at the combination. And this is you know

2286
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 2: what you do in the draft rooms. You take the

2287
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 2: combination of players. Okay, if we take the running back

2288
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 2: in the first round and we take the tackle in

2289
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,639
Speaker 2: the second round, what does that combination look like versus

2290
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 2: flipping it. We get the tackle first, we come back

2291
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 2: and get the you know, the running back, edge rush

2292
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 2: or whatever position later. I just think those are some

2293
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 2: positions of real, real depth. So, you know, if that's

2294
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 2: if that's a need for you along the defensive line,

2295
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 2: running back, tight end, I think you might look at

2296
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 2: going another position early, knowing you could you can circle

2297
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 2: back and still get a really talented player, you know,

2298
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 2: not just in this year, but historically, like guys, whereas

2299
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't know that the top fifteen of this draft

2300
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 2: marries up with some of the better top fifteens we've

2301
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 2: seen over the last decade. But I do think the

2302
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 2: day two mix, I think it's very similar, So I

2303
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 2: think there's quality to be had there.

2304
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 3: Next question, Ray Ditty Paldo from Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Hope

2305
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 3: I didn't butcher that name.

2306
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,759
Speaker 12: You did not, Thank you, Daniel.

2307
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 58: There's a discussion a couple of years ago about the

2308
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 58: value of taking a guy like Jordan Davis in the

2309
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 58: middle of the first round.

2310
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 9: You know, a two down player.

2311
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,560
Speaker 58: He's been that for the Eagle, So same question a

2312
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 58: couple of years later. But if you could spin that

2313
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 58: towards the Steelers, would there be value there taking a

2314
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 58: guy like Kenneth Grant who could help your run defense,

2315
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 58: or would you rather see them a twenty one go

2316
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 58: after a guy with more three down versatility, you know,

2317
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 58: pick your guy Harriman, whoever that might be.

2318
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Kenneth has that upside in him.

2319
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be three hundred and forty pounds

2320
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 2: and he's going to run under five flat. I mean,

2321
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 2: you're just going to see an athlete. It's a freak.

2322
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 2: He just hasn't you know. He's not a polished rusher yet,

2323
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 2: so I think that's all in front of him, and

2324
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 2: I think in the meantime, he's someone who is going

2325
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 2: to dominate against the run. He's going to eat blocks.

2326
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 2: And you know as a league that's gone, you know,

2327
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 2: to so much shell coverage and become so obsessed with

2328
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 2: taking away explosives, Well, you do that, you got to

2329
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 2: play with light boxes, and so I do think that

2330
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 2: talking to people around the league and just you know,

2331
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 2: following a team around the league and speaking to people

2332
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 2: every week, there's more value in these guys. Now. It's

2333
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 2: kind of everything's kind of come around a little bit

2334
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 2: where it was that, man, if you can't really rush

2335
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 2: the passer, I'm not going to expend the high resources

2336
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 2: on you as a defensive lineman a defensive tackle. And

2337
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 2: now it's like, you know what, we're trying to take

2338
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 2: away explosive plays, we're a little light in the box.

2339
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 2: Having someone that can dominate against the run and let

2340
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: us play our coverage over the top is huge, and

2341
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 2: he's I think he's got more as a rusher. I'm

2342
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 2: I have this vision in my head and and this

2343
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 2: is probably a sign that I haven't been sleeping much

2344
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 2: but I just remember going back to Albert Hainsworth when

2345
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: he was with Tennessee playing with van in Bosh. I'm

2346
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 2: not comparing him in terms of, you know, people work

2347
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 2: out all the stuff. I'm just saying a big jumbo

2348
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: athlete like that that you could kick out at end

2349
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 2: and then they would put Vandenbosch inside and they could

2350
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 2: run games and do all those things. And then, like

2351
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: I think Kenneth Grant, he's got the ability and the

2352
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 2: tools to do some unique stuff and he has not

2353
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 2: come close to scratching the surface of his potential. So

2354
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 2: I would have no problem whatsoever if the Eagle or

2355
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 2: if the Steelers made that pick, and I'd be I'd

2356
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 2: be pretty pumped up about it if I were a

2357
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 2: Steeler fan.

2358
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 26: Thank you.

2359
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 3: Next question is from Jessa Nance of tied one hundred

2360
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 3: point nine.

2361
01:55:55,960 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 59: Hey, Daniel, I have a question about Alabama players Campbell

2362
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 59: and Tyler Booker. I know if you've spoken on them

2363
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 59: a bit, but my question is, so far Jahad you

2364
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 59: have him, if he's still around, why would it be

2365
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 59: a great, great idea to take him at that twenty

2366
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 59: ninth spot. And if Tyler Booker is able to go

2367
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 59: to Chicago, what could he how could he be beneficial

2368
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 59: to that Chicago team? And then additionally, what does Jalen

2369
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 59: Milro need to do on combine, in the combine and

2370
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 59: on pro Day to at least get back into the

2371
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 59: second round?

2372
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 2: Cool? I will I will go those one at a

2373
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 2: time here. So with Campbell in Washington, I think that

2374
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 2: represents a tremendous value there at pick number twenty nine.

2375
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 2: And again, if you obviously have seen him and when

2376
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 2: he when he plays off the ball, and the range

2377
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 2: and the ability to use him as a blitzer from

2378
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 2: off the ball is pretty is pretty special. And then

2379
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure you can't just get to third

2380
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 2: down and let him kick out side full time and

2381
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 2: let him rush and he might go get you ten

2382
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 2: sacks doing that. So that would constitute a tremendous value

2383
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 2: there at pick number twenty nine in my opinion, based

2384
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 2: off the player, I think they would love coaching him there,

2385
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 2: and dan Quinn would love him in Washington. Booker with

2386
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 2: the Bears, it's the biggest need the Bears have when

2387
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 2: you look at them offensive line wise, they have got

2388
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 2: to be better. They've got to be more firm up

2389
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: the middle and That's Booker's calling card, is how he

2390
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 2: can set his anchor and is just a strong, firm

2391
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 2: presence there as well as someone who's so smart and

2392
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 2: bright and aware. I like the fact when you have

2393
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 2: a young quarterback and Caleb Williams surrounding him everywhere with

2394
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 2: as many smart players as you can. I just think

2395
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,839
Speaker 2: that helps in a big way. And that doesn't necessarily

2396
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 2: have to just be veterans. It can be with really

2397
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 2: really smart young players and that's what Booker is, So

2398
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 2: I think that fits and solves a lot of their

2399
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 2: problems there. And then when it comes to Milrow, it's

2400
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 2: just again, you know, continuing to grow as a passer.

2401
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 2: You know, get your cleats in the ground. There's time

2402
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 2: so he can get up a little bit on his toes.

2403
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 2: Just be just just relax, be comfortable, drop your shoulders,

2404
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 2: put your cleats in the ground and h and let

2405
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 2: and let the let the ball come off your hand.

2406
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all in there as a runner. I

2407
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: was talking to a baseball GM the other day and

2408
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 2: we were, you know, kind of referencing how we grade

2409
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 2: players in the scale that we use the scouting skill

2410
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 2: and in baseball, it goes up to eighty, and they

2411
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 2: reference everything by saying, someone's got you know, he's got

2412
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 2: a sixty five fastball, he's got seventy speed, he's got

2413
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, fifty makeup what have you? And I was like,

2414
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting. If I was thinking about this

2415
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 2: draft and you take all the quarterbacks and you took

2416
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 2: all their individual skills and you put them on that scale,

2417
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 2: I would say that he's the only one who has

2418
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 2: an eighty trait, which is his ability to run like

2419
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,879
Speaker 2: he is an eighty runner. It is a special special

2420
01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 2: talent that he has. So I hope, I don't know

2421
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 2: if he's gonna run a forty or not, uh at

2422
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 2: the combine or at the pro day, but I I

2423
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 2: would not be surprised if the second number was a three,

2424
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 2: just watching the tape of how fast he is and

2425
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 2: how good of a runner he is. So now it's

2426
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 2: just continue to grow and uh and and show through

2427
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 2: the spring meet with teams. He's going to have zooms,

2428
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna have he's gonna have visits, you know, show

2429
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 2: them that that uh, you know, you've got a thirst

2430
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 2: to improve and and uh, I would not be surprised

2431
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 2: at all if somebody you know, was was excited about

2432
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 2: that and and they were to uh, you know, to

2433
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: pull the trigger there at that point in time. So

2434
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 2: I think right now most teams have him more third

2435
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 2: or fourth round. But to your point, he's got an

2436
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 2: opportunity to spring to see if he can em better that.

2437
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 2: Thank you sure.

2438
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 3: Next question is from Angelique Chingellis of Detroit News.

2439
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 60: Thanks so much, And Daniel, I just wanted to ask

2440
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 60: you very quickly another Michigan question. Uh, your impressions of

2441
01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 60: the running backs Donovan Edwards and Kalel Mallin and Donovan

2442
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 60: seemed to improve his stock a bit at the Senior Bowl.

2443
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 60: And my second question is way early in the call

2444
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 60: you mention you were talking about Mason Graham and yeah,

2445
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 60: and so that you hope people don't overthink it too

2446
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 60: much with him, And I was just wondering what you meant, like,

2447
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 60: what what might they overthink with with Mason?

2448
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's not going to be long, He's

2449
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 2: gonna have short arms, you know, body type wise, he's

2450
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 2: not going to be someone who's going to stand up

2451
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 2: on a stage, you know, in a line full of

2452
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 2: these defensive linemen and you're gonna go, oh, gosh, that

2453
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 2: looks like the top ten defensive linemen. He just doesn't

2454
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't cut that image, you know, he doesn't have

2455
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 2: that body type. So and I don't know, testing wise,

2456
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 2: I have no clue, you know, how he's going to

2457
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 2: run or jump or do all those things. I do

2458
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 2: know some of these other guys are going to blow

2459
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 2: it out, so that that's kind of my point on him.

2460
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 2: But the tape is so good. I don't know many

2461
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 2: people remember this one, but I was in Baltimore with

2462
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 2: Kelly Gregg, and he's got more twitch to him, more

2463
02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 2: suddenness and than Kelly. But Kelly was a wrestler who

2464
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 2: played with leverage and you I mean, if you if

2465
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 2: he played on a field of wet paint, he did

2466
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 2: not have a drop of paint on him at the

2467
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 2: end of the game. And that's kind of the way

2468
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 2: it is with Mason. He's got such good balance and

2469
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 2: strength and leverage. He's again I'm a big fan of his,

2470
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 2: but that's what I was referencing in terms of the spring.

2471
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 2: If if you know, we take the football pants off

2472
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 2: and put the shorts on, that maybe he would take

2473
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,879
Speaker 2: on some water there. So that was my thought process

2474
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 2: on the running backs. Khalil Mullings was a was a

2475
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 2: fun one to me. You know, he kind of going

2476
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 2: to the year and you know, Donovan is the one.

2477
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 2: He's on the video game and that's all the attention

2478
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 2: and all the eyeballs, and then I know he didn't

2479
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 2: quite have the year he wanted. But Mullings, you know,

2480
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 2: for someone that's two hundred and twenty seven pounds, I

2481
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 2: thought he had vision. I thought he ran with balance,

2482
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 2: he can push the pile. I love the fact he

2483
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:58,280
Speaker 2: never put the ball on the ground, he didn't fumble.

2484
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 2: The se game was the first one I watched. You know,

2485
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 2: he's got the stiff arm and the long run to

2486
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:05,160
Speaker 2: kind of set up his touchdown at the end of

2487
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 2: that game to really pull out one that they you know,

2488
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 2: might not should have won. But he was able to,

2489
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 2: uh to kind of lead the charge. There not a

2490
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 2: factor in the passing game with only six catches, so

2491
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 2: that's something, you know, we'll see if that impacts where

2492
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 2: he goes. But I had him more in like that

2493
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 2: fourth round. Range had a similar grade with Donovan. You know,

2494
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 2: you've got some flashes with him this year. They flashed

2495
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 2: the power he uh, you know, he's another one's got

2496
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 2: a nice little stiff arm. He can catch the ball

2497
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 2: out of the backfield. I just thought he didn't run

2498
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 2: with you know, with a lot of wiggle, and I

2499
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 2: didn't quite see the same burst that I was hoping

2500
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 2: to see. And you're right, the Senior Bowl was better.

2501
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, he's someone I think that uh,

2502
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think this year you saw his best.

2503
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that that's uh, that's gonna that's gonna

2504
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 2: show up wherever he lands, and and we'll see the

2505
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 2: younger version of him.

2506
02:02:57,880 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 39: Thank you so much.

2507
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be

2508
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 2: right back with the rest of this year's NFL Scouting

2509
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 2: Combine Conference.

2510
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 61: Call just past the two hour mark, DJ, so hopefully

2511
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 61: we can we can get to these last few questions

2512
02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 61: here in order. Next question is from Ryan Hinton of

2513
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:23,320
Speaker 61: Saints Block Party.

2514
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 62: Hey, DJ, sorry about that.

2515
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 20: I really wanted to find out.

2516
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 62: It seems like Jackson Dart seems to be getting quite

2517
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 62: a bit of buzz in these last couple of weeks,

2518
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 62: especially since the Senior Bowl. I just wanted to know, like,

2519
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 62: what are your thoughts on him and kind of where

2520
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 62: does he where does he level out at with this

2521
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 62: quarterback class.

2522
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 2: Sure, I have him as the third guy. The things

2523
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 2: that that you like about Jackson, I see there's some similarities.

2524
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 2: People will maybe raise their eyebrows on this, but I

2525
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 2: do see some similarities to Hurts when Hurts was going

2526
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 2: through the process US and that got kind of a

2527
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 2: similar build, similar frame. They're both really good athletes, they're

2528
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:09,040
Speaker 2: both beloved by their teammates, say the right things, do

2529
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 2: all the right things, all that stuff kind of off

2530
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 2: the field. There's a lot of similarities there. And I

2531
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 2: thought with Jalen he got better every year. He just

2532
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 2: kept just taking steps. And we've seen it since he's

2533
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 2: coming to the league. He just he just keeps getting

2534
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 2: better and better and better because he's just he's got

2535
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:26,400
Speaker 2: great wiring. He works really really hard, and there's a

2536
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 2: competitiveness and a toughness to him. So that's some of

2537
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 2: the things that I that I really like about Jackson.

2538
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 2: This offense, you know they're not gonna get real deep

2539
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 2: into progressions. Lane does a really good job of getting

2540
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 2: to the point where you know early in progressions you're

2541
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 2: gonna have places to distribute the football. So you'll see

2542
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 2: some RPOs. You'll see some seams, uh some they take

2543
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 2: a lot of deep shots, but they're kind of designed

2544
02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 2: deep shots, so you kind of know where the ball's going.

2545
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 2: But he throws a nice, you know, nice deep ball.

2546
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 2: When to work on from that regard not just kind

2547
02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 2: of getting deeper in progressions, but there's times where I

2548
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 2: think his eyes can be a little bit ahead of

2549
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 2: his feet, just kind of sinking that up, marrying that

2550
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:08,640
Speaker 2: up a little bit better, and just you know, continuing

2551
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 2: to uh, you know, to be cautious and careful with

2552
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 2: the football and some some key moments that's uh, you know,

2553
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 2: that's some areas for him. But I have met him.

2554
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 2: He is a really really good kid, presents himself really well,

2555
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 2: and I think there's, uh, there's a lot of tools

2556
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 2: to work with. So that's why I happened as a

2557
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:24,080
Speaker 2: third quarterback.

2558
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 20: Thanks.

2559
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 3: Next question is from Jim Alexander of Real Talker.

2560
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 63: Sorry, hey, DJ. Two Bears questions here. First, one, do

2561
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 63: you think they'll have their pick of choosing for the

2562
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:48,240
Speaker 63: offensive lineman available in the draft. And second of all,

2563
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 63: when you look back at Roma Dunes that he didn't

2564
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,960
Speaker 63: have the best of years last year, do you still

2565
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:56,360
Speaker 63: project him to be the top talent that you were

2566
02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 63: projecting him to be last year.

2567
02:05:58,040 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any I don't have any concerns

2568
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 2: about him. I think he's gonna be really really good.

2569
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 2: There was, uh, you know, obviously there's issues up front

2570
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,640
Speaker 2: offensive line wise, and there was a you know, there

2571
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: was a lot of mouths to feed there. So I'm

2572
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm excited about Ben Johnson come in there. I'm excited

2573
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 2: about him getting you know, uh to really have an

2574
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 2: opportunity to take off their Caleb's going to be better.

2575
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 2: I just think everything else around him is going to

2576
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 2: be better. But when I watch the tape, I still

2577
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 2: see somebody that can that can get open. I still

2578
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 2: see somebody that can make plays. And I think you'll

2579
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:34,120
Speaker 2: you'll see him. His makeups so good and the talents there.

2580
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't really worry about him, uh going forward. And

2581
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 2: then when you you look at where they're picking, do

2582
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 2: they get you know, the first crack at an offensive lineman. Look,

2583
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 2: there's some teams ahead of them that could that could

2584
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 2: pull the trigger. So I think that's TBD. But I

2585
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 2: do think the fact that you know, their need being

2586
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:53,840
Speaker 2: along the interior, I think they're going to have their

2587
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 2: pick of interior guys so that I know it's not

2588
02:06:58,040 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 2: the sexiest thing in the world. I know people don't

2589
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,440
Speaker 2: want to say get super excited about taking a guard

2590
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 2: with a tenth pick, but if you watched the Bears

2591
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 2: play last year, you might be excited about taking a

2592
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 2: guard with the tenth pick.

2593
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:10,480
Speaker 63: Thanks DJ.

2594
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 3: Next question, we're going to go international. Ricardo Gomez from Portugal.

2595
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 34: I love DJ solosz Americo. Fellow DJ Gratings from Mexico.

2596
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 34: From guess Son Aguno's prospectus for Barsustoken Combine, what are

2597
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:31,840
Speaker 34: some under the radar prospects you think could make a

2598
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 34: huge impact during the combine and Reister stuck.

2599
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:38,240
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I am so glad you asked

2600
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 2: it in English because I I I'm gonna be honest,

2601
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:44,440
Speaker 2: I did not pass Spanish one the first time I

2602
02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 2: took it. I had to retake it, so I'm uh

2603
02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:50,120
Speaker 2: not proud of that. But I did eventually get get

2604
02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 2: to get a passing grade, although I think it was

2605
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 2: a C. When I'm looking at some underrated players that

2606
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 2: I think are gonna flash at the combine, well, I've

2607
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 2: mentioned Harston from Kentucky. He's gonna absolutely fly and I

2608
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 2: mean he's in my top fifty. But you know, I

2609
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 2: think he's got a chance to run himself up into

2610
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:10,360
Speaker 2: the first round conversation. You'll hear some some buzz and

2611
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 2: some conversation about him. There's a there's a couple of

2612
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 2: of edge rushers and defensive linemen that I think you're

2613
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:21,480
Speaker 2: gonna see tests really really well that I'm uh that

2614
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm high on. They're a good football player. Saveon Jones

2615
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 2: from LSU is gonna work out really well. He's two

2616
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:30,160
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine pounds and uh, he was dominant

2617
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:31,960
Speaker 2: in the Senior Bowl game. I mean he's going to

2618
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 2: be a Day two pick, but I think you could

2619
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:37,120
Speaker 2: see him really put on a show there and run

2620
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 2: particularly well. You look at the edge rushers that are

2621
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,520
Speaker 2: going to be impressive. I think Braden Swinson from LSU,

2622
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 2: his teammate, has a chance to work out run really well.

2623
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:52,560
Speaker 2: Aman Hassanin from Boise State, who's a great story is

2624
02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:55,880
Speaker 2: a is a kid who grew up in Egypt. He's

2625
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 2: gonna he's he's productive there at Boise State. He's uh,

2626
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 2: you know, he's going to test. I think he's going

2627
02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:03,800
Speaker 2: to surprise some people with how he works out and

2628
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:06,800
Speaker 2: how he tests. So those are those are some of

2629
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 2: the guys that I think you'll see create some buzz there.

2630
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of an offensive maybe an offensive

2631
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:17,760
Speaker 2: lineman I can find for you. Well, I mean he's

2632
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,240
Speaker 2: not he's not necessarily under the radar, but I do

2633
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 2: think Membo from Missouri is going to work out extremely

2634
02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 2: well at three hundred and thirty pounds. We'll be talking

2635
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 2: about him.

2636
02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 3: Next question is from Phil Jones of New Stitch Media.

2637
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 9: Hey, Daniel, thanks for having us on today.

2638
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 2: No problem, So just.

2639
02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 64: Jumping on the number six pick with the Raiders. Now

2640
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 64: you have on your mob draft two point zero. You

2641
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:50,480
Speaker 64: got Shadora fall into them. But you know, in the

2642
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 64: last few years we haven't seeing the Raiders needed a quarterback,

2643
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 64: and you know they kind of just didn't go that route.

2644
02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:03,000
Speaker 64: Is there a possible ability if Chador has not been

2645
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:07,880
Speaker 64: there at six besides going defense like Will Johnson, like

2646
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:10,360
Speaker 64: you said earlier, would they go someone like, you know,

2647
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 64: maybe McMillan or maybe probably Gent and then come down

2648
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 64: to the thirty seventh pick, would they probably look at

2649
02:10:19,440 --> 02:10:23,360
Speaker 64: a Jackson Dark or maybe Jaln Milroe.

2650
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Dart would enter into that

2651
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:30,360
Speaker 2: discussion mill Row. That would be a little bit early

2652
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 2: based off where I have him. But I think you

2653
02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, look, you do all your homework in the

2654
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:36,920
Speaker 2: spring and get to know him and work him out,

2655
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:41,000
Speaker 2: and obviously the upside is there. So I wouldn't rule

2656
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:43,120
Speaker 2: out eventually getting to that point. I'm not there at

2657
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:45,840
Speaker 2: that at that point, at this point in time in

2658
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:48,920
Speaker 2: terms of some of those other options, yeah, I mean,

2659
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, you could go on a whole whole host

2660
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:54,800
Speaker 2: of different directions there. I would love, you know, I

2661
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:58,000
Speaker 2: would love Genty the only thing. And I'm again, he's

2662
02:10:58,040 --> 02:11:01,919
Speaker 2: my third overall player. I'm a huge, huge gente believer

2663
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:05,480
Speaker 2: and I am one when it comes to running backs.

2664
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 2: I just my theory is not, you know, do you

2665
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 2: take them high? Do you not take them high? My

2666
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,320
Speaker 2: theory is that you take the running back when you

2667
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:16,040
Speaker 2: have everything in place that he can hit. All his

2668
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 2: carries matter. I just don't want to give away carries.

2669
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 2: They only have so many carries in their body and

2670
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:22,680
Speaker 2: I want them all to matter and to count for something.

2671
02:11:23,080 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 2: So I just don't know if the Raiders team wise

2672
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 2: are there at this point in time where that would

2673
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:29,840
Speaker 2: make as much sense to me. That's, you know, more

2674
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 2: kind of a finishing piece than one of those early

2675
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 2: pieces there. So I mean we've we've kind of seen

2676
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:39,400
Speaker 2: it with the Giants with Sequon Barkley, Like we saw

2677
02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 2: a Saquon Barkley on the team that wasn't ready for him,

2678
02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 2: and then we saw a Saquon Barkley with the team

2679
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 2: that was ready made. And you can see the impact

2680
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:49,480
Speaker 2: in the and the and the value there. So I

2681
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:53,440
Speaker 2: just that would be my one, my one counter argument there,

2682
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 2: even though I have gent as the third best player

2683
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:57,960
Speaker 2: in the draft real quick.

2684
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:04,040
Speaker 64: With Chip ca Ally's offense, Uh, between the three quarterbacks,

2685
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:05,680
Speaker 64: who would be a good fit.

2686
02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:09,400
Speaker 2: For it, I think she door fits it really well.

2687
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,360
Speaker 2: I think he I think he sees the field well.

2688
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 2: I think you make good decisions. You know, Chip can

2689
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:20,080
Speaker 2: get play out there with tight ends. Now you know

2690
02:12:20,120 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 2: we've seen his offense morph and change over the years,

2691
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:26,280
Speaker 2: So I just think he'd be able to, uh get

2692
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 2: them in the right play, get them where they want

2693
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:30,879
Speaker 2: to be, and and uh and deliver the ball accurately,

2694
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 2: make good decisions. So that's why that one, Uh, that

2695
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:35,920
Speaker 2: one I've I've had I think for a couple of

2696
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:37,960
Speaker 2: times there of that being the fit and I think

2697
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:41,360
Speaker 2: should or not necessarily having a huge, huge arm, you

2698
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 2: know in uh in that division and in that home stadium.

2699
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:46,720
Speaker 2: That's it doesn't matter. He's got plenty of armed to

2700
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 2: do everything he needs to do there.

2701
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:51,120
Speaker 9: Thank you, appreciate you.

2702
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 2: Ye.

2703
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,120
Speaker 3: Most question is from Mark Wiser of the Athens bar

2704
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 3: Banner Hrald.

2705
02:12:57,080 --> 02:13:00,000
Speaker 65: Hey, Daniel, you alluded to another big Georgia draft class,

2706
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:02,680
Speaker 65: safety Dan Jackson, did not get one of their fourteen

2707
02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 65: combine invites. Did that surprise you? And what value do

2708
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:07,640
Speaker 65: you see it in him at the next level?

2709
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised because he had a good week

2710
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:11,640
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl. You know, he had a couple

2711
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:14,320
Speaker 2: of big hits both in practice and in the game.

2712
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:19,160
Speaker 2: So that one I caught me a little bit off guard.

2713
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:23,040
Speaker 2: Now he's he's not the he's not the biggest guy

2714
02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:25,480
Speaker 2: in terms of the you know, the witwity weigh here.

2715
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:27,720
Speaker 2: He was one hundred and ninety four pounds, so yeah,

2716
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:31,440
Speaker 2: he's five eleven six, so just under six foot, one

2717
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:34,000
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety four pounds. But tape wise, I mean

2718
02:13:34,040 --> 02:13:36,840
Speaker 2: I had him in like the fifth round is the

2719
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:38,520
Speaker 2: grade that I gave him. You know, he's got a

2720
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:41,640
Speaker 2: quick pedal, can plant and drive big hits on tape

2721
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:43,320
Speaker 2: as well is at the Senior Bowl. He plays with

2722
02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:47,440
Speaker 2: a physical presence, takes good angles. There are some misses, yeah,

2723
02:13:47,480 --> 02:13:50,000
Speaker 2: some ricochet misses just because he doesn't wrap up, but

2724
02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 2: it's not for a lack of throwing himself in there.

2725
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:55,760
Speaker 2: But I thought he saw the field well and I

2726
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 2: also thought he had a little value as a blitzer,

2727
02:13:57,640 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought he was. I think he's definitely

2728
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:02,200
Speaker 2: aftable player. Was a little surprised he didn't get invite

2729
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 2: and quickly for.

2730
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:06,600
Speaker 65: George offensive Linement at the combine. Thoughts on Tate Radledge,

2731
02:14:06,760 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 65: Jared Wilson, Dylan Fairchild, and Xavier Truss.

2732
02:14:09,640 --> 02:14:13,480
Speaker 2: Sure, I'll I'll go through him here. Wilson to me

2733
02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:16,280
Speaker 2: is the is the top one of the bunch as

2734
02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:20,760
Speaker 2: a center wide base. He plays with strong hands, he's

2735
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 2: he takes good angles the second level, real firm, He's

2736
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:28,560
Speaker 2: aware on twists and games. He can recover and stay attached.

2737
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:30,040
Speaker 2: I think he was an elite athlete. He just doesn't

2738
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:32,480
Speaker 2: really get beat and he's a He's a good solid player.

2739
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:37,320
Speaker 2: Rattledge was you know at right guard, he can it's

2740
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:40,720
Speaker 2: more of a ceiling position blocker. Takes good angles, but

2741
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:45,200
Speaker 2: kind of more all upper body, just wrestle the side

2742
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:47,880
Speaker 2: note watching that Florida tape with the Florida's got that

2743
02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:50,840
Speaker 2: four hundred pounds defensive tackle and uh hit that that

2744
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:54,240
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. Threw him around a little bit, but had

2745
02:14:54,280 --> 02:14:56,120
Speaker 2: some initial pop. Just didn't do a really good job

2746
02:14:56,160 --> 02:14:59,040
Speaker 2: of sustaining trusts. Uh and I had him kind of

2747
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:01,960
Speaker 2: as a down the line guy. Trusts right tackle position

2748
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:04,960
Speaker 2: blocker some right guard as well. Just plays a little

2749
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:07,400
Speaker 2: bit high, struggles to change direction. Didn't think he was

2750
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:09,640
Speaker 2: able to really bend and sync all that well, but

2751
02:15:09,760 --> 02:15:12,360
Speaker 2: does flash some power and can can pull and kick

2752
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 2: out again. Day three guy for me, and then we

2753
02:15:16,760 --> 02:15:18,800
Speaker 2: got Fairchild. Was that the last one? Yeah, Yeah, that's

2754
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:22,360
Speaker 2: right Fairchild left guard, strong hands, does a good job.

2755
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:25,240
Speaker 2: Hework in his hands, can control the point of attack.

2756
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:28,120
Speaker 2: Just a little bit stiff again, plays a little bit high,

2757
02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 2: looks for work, just a little bit limited athletically. So

2758
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:34,200
Speaker 2: I thought Wilson was on a different tier personally than

2759
02:15:34,240 --> 02:15:36,640
Speaker 2: the rest of them, But uh uh, they're all going

2760
02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 2: to get picked thanks much. Sure.

2761
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:43,560
Speaker 3: Next question is from Joanne Coley of Commander's Game Day.

2762
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 9: Hi, DJ, how you doing doing great?

2763
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:50,760
Speaker 66: So, you know the Commanders the offensive line has been

2764
02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:53,440
Speaker 66: a weak spot this season and they're also and they're

2765
02:15:53,480 --> 02:15:55,560
Speaker 66: also in need of a solid number two that's been

2766
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:58,919
Speaker 66: a big top. So from your perspective, what's your offensive

2767
02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 66: lineman and the draft commit like an immediate impact? And

2768
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:04,400
Speaker 66: are there any wide receivers can step in that number

2769
02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 66: to roll and compliment Terry McLaurin.

2770
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll start with the receivers. Yeah, there's there's definitely receivers. Uh,

2771
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, they're picking at the bottom of the first

2772
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:19,520
Speaker 2: round there at pick twenty nine. I would love to

2773
02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:21,680
Speaker 2: run the card up for either Golden or a BUCA

2774
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:24,200
Speaker 2: Luther Burden as we haven't talked about him yet. He's

2775
02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 2: in that mix. You know, teams will have those guys

2776
02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:29,120
Speaker 2: in different orders, but I think any of those three

2777
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 2: guys would be uh, you know, good, good complimentary players.

2778
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:33,119
Speaker 9: Sorry.

2779
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:37,200
Speaker 2: Third one, which with Luther Burden from Missouri. Oh yeah, yeah,

2780
02:16:37,240 --> 02:16:40,000
Speaker 2: so I compared him to Stefan Diggs coming out of college.

2781
02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:42,400
Speaker 2: You know, real quick athletic slot. A lot of quick

2782
02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:46,520
Speaker 2: hitters really strong hands, great body control. It's got some

2783
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:49,360
Speaker 2: burst and make miss after the catch. You know, his

2784
02:16:49,400 --> 02:16:52,720
Speaker 2: production dip this year, his yards per catch dipped, but

2785
02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 2: it was more more of a result of kind of

2786
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 2: some bad balls coming his way and just not getting

2787
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, as many opportunities. So he's someone that if

2788
02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:03,040
Speaker 2: he has a good spring, he might not even be

2789
02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:05,240
Speaker 2: there when they pick. But those are those are some

2790
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:07,440
Speaker 2: options there that at the bottom of the first round

2791
02:17:07,480 --> 02:17:09,959
Speaker 2: I think would would make a lot of sense. And

2792
02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:11,959
Speaker 2: then what was the other position you were asking about

2793
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:13,199
Speaker 2: for immediate.

2794
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:14,680
Speaker 9: Help our offensive line?

2795
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive line wise, you know, same guys we've kind

2796
02:17:18,400 --> 02:17:22,440
Speaker 2: of mentioned, Donovan Jackson, Gray's Abel. Those would be a

2797
02:17:22,440 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 2: couple that would be plugging play guys right out the

2798
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:27,760
Speaker 2: jump if they were to be there there at pick

2799
02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:31,920
Speaker 2: number twenty nine. And then from you know, a tackle perspective,

2800
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, you start getting into you know, Simmons if

2801
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:37,080
Speaker 2: he were to be there, he's he's coming off of

2802
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:40,119
Speaker 2: an injury, but he is out of Ohio State. He's man,

2803
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:45,040
Speaker 2: he's ready to go. He could he could start right away.

2804
02:17:45,160 --> 02:17:45,520
Speaker 4: Thank you.

2805
02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:46,240
Speaker 2: Sure.

2806
02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:51,400
Speaker 3: Next question is from Jamal at News for Jackson Jacksonville, Florida.

2807
02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:54,760
Speaker 67: Hey, DJ want to ask you about a couple of

2808
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 67: the guys that are from Jacksonville, Pat Bryan out of

2809
02:17:57,680 --> 02:18:00,120
Speaker 67: Illinois and Jalen Rivers from Miami going to be up

2810
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:03,040
Speaker 67: there at the combine. What have you seen from those

2811
02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:05,039
Speaker 67: guys where you think they could end up in the draft.

2812
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:10,280
Speaker 2: Sure, let's start first of all with Pat Bryant. I

2813
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:14,080
Speaker 2: gave him a third round grade. There's a there's a

2814
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:16,640
Speaker 2: big clump of receivers in there though, so you're going

2815
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:19,000
Speaker 2: to see some of these guys, you know, fall beyond that.

2816
02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:22,959
Speaker 2: But outside he's uh, you know, wins on a lot

2817
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:25,720
Speaker 2: of slants. He's an excellent adjuster down the field. It's

2818
02:18:25,720 --> 02:18:27,840
Speaker 2: one of my favorite things about him. He's a hands catcher,

2819
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:30,520
Speaker 2: only one drop on the year. He's strong with the

2820
02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:32,720
Speaker 2: ball in his hands after the catch, he can win

2821
02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:35,080
Speaker 2: early with his release, and I love the toughness to

2822
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:36,879
Speaker 2: work in traffic and kind of win some of those

2823
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:37,880
Speaker 2: combat catches.

2824
02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:38,520
Speaker 17: Uh.

2825
02:18:38,560 --> 02:18:40,400
Speaker 2: And I love the size that he has. I just

2826
02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:43,119
Speaker 2: think he'd be a great fit there as a third

2827
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:46,640
Speaker 2: round pick. And then Rivers from Miami. You know, obviously

2828
02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:51,360
Speaker 2: you start with the size, massive left tackle out there.

2829
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:54,640
Speaker 2: He is, uh, you know, he He's one that I've

2830
02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:56,360
Speaker 2: said this about some of the linement, but just needs

2831
02:18:56,360 --> 02:18:57,760
Speaker 2: to play a little lower. It can get a little

2832
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:00,640
Speaker 2: bit tall, a little bit high, and that struggles with

2833
02:19:00,680 --> 02:19:03,080
Speaker 2: some of the redirect things, you know, against counters and

2834
02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:06,360
Speaker 2: things like that. But can move, you know, outside, can

2835
02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:10,240
Speaker 2: pull and seal as a pass protector. He's a little

2836
02:19:10,280 --> 02:19:11,959
Speaker 2: bit of a scooper with his hands, kind of an

2837
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:15,240
Speaker 2: underhook scooper. Some guys are you know, better at that

2838
02:19:15,320 --> 02:19:17,800
Speaker 2: than others, but you don't see that quite as much.

2839
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:20,840
Speaker 2: But he's someone that I thought was a Day three

2840
02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:23,200
Speaker 2: pick early Day three with a ton of side, ton

2841
02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:25,000
Speaker 2: of upside and.

2842
02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:25,920
Speaker 67: Hey, one quick follow up.

2843
02:19:25,920 --> 02:19:27,080
Speaker 42: The Jaguars sitting at.

2844
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:28,520
Speaker 67: Five, where do you think they could go to a

2845
02:19:28,560 --> 02:19:31,240
Speaker 67: guy to like Ted McMillan work to pair with BTJ.

2846
02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:35,520
Speaker 2: That's a little higher than I have him, but I

2847
02:19:35,560 --> 02:19:38,760
Speaker 2: have him as a top receiver, so you know they could, man,

2848
02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:42,760
Speaker 2: you'd have you'd have two power forward types. I mean,

2849
02:19:42,760 --> 02:19:46,640
Speaker 2: he's got unbelievable body control in hands to go play

2850
02:19:46,680 --> 02:19:50,640
Speaker 2: above the rim like red zone weapon Drake London esque.

2851
02:19:51,440 --> 02:19:55,760
Speaker 2: He just a real, real smooth mover. So yeah, I

2852
02:19:55,760 --> 02:19:57,879
Speaker 2: have him as the fifteenth players. I mean, gosh, I

2853
02:19:57,879 --> 02:20:00,959
Speaker 2: guess that's not that. That's not that far remove from

2854
02:20:01,400 --> 02:20:03,640
Speaker 2: where I haven't grated, So I think you could make

2855
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:06,080
Speaker 2: that argument. That'd be a fun pairing. All right, let's

2856
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:08,640
Speaker 2: take a quick break. We'll be right back with the

2857
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:12,200
Speaker 2: rest of this year's NFL Scouting Combine Conference call.

2858
02:20:18,480 --> 02:20:21,440
Speaker 3: Next question is from Alan Alford of sports talk show

2859
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:22,959
Speaker 3: in Tampa.

2860
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:25,440
Speaker 4: Thank you, Daniel for doing this, really appreciate it.

2861
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:27,200
Speaker 20: Thank you so much.

2862
02:20:28,120 --> 02:20:31,240
Speaker 68: And so my question is, you know Hall of Famer

2863
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:35,320
Speaker 68: Deion Sanders coach Prime did say that Sador Sanders he

2864
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:39,359
Speaker 68: doesn't want his son playing for four teams. That's the Browns,

2865
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:43,720
Speaker 68: the Titans, the Jets, and Bears. Will this cause an issue,

2866
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:45,640
Speaker 68: Let's say, if he does want to get taken by

2867
02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:46,480
Speaker 68: one of those teams.

2868
02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:49,720
Speaker 2: Is that like new news? By the way, I hadn't

2869
02:20:49,720 --> 02:20:50,120
Speaker 2: seen that.

2870
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 69: It's something that you know, his dad basically said that, Hey,

2871
02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:57,080
Speaker 69: I don't want him going to these four teams.

2872
02:20:57,080 --> 02:20:59,760
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's so new, but it's something

2873
02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:00,440
Speaker 4: that his.

2874
02:21:00,480 --> 02:21:01,360
Speaker 20: Dad put out there.

2875
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know I.

2876
02:21:04,040 --> 02:21:06,600
Speaker 69: Have him going eleventh. I know you haven't gone eleventh,

2877
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:09,000
Speaker 69: but Jess, in case something does happen, you know it's

2878
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:09,560
Speaker 69: a draft.

2879
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:12,680
Speaker 4: How do you feel that might play itself out.

2880
02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, look I have I haven't

2881
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:19,600
Speaker 2: seen all all of it to to wrap my head

2882
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:22,000
Speaker 2: around it. But you know, look, I think if you're

2883
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:25,440
Speaker 2: a team and you know, somebody doesn't want to doesn't

2884
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:27,320
Speaker 2: want to play for you at that position, it's kind

2885
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:29,240
Speaker 2: of a big deal. I don't know that I would

2886
02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know that I would fight City

2887
02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:34,640
Speaker 2: Hall on that one if someone really was adamant about

2888
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:38,160
Speaker 2: not wanting to play there. So again it's it's you know,

2889
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:41,520
Speaker 2: that would be kind of unique. But uh, I do

2890
02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 2: think that Dion is Dion's right and smart from the

2891
02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:49,640
Speaker 2: standpoint that fit is incredibly important. And you know, we

2892
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:52,120
Speaker 2: look at all these different quarterbacks last year, you know,

2893
02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:55,680
Speaker 2: just watching the you know, the Sam Darnold last year,

2894
02:21:55,680 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 2: seeing Baker Mayfield for the last couple of years, you

2895
02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:02,840
Speaker 2: have seen you know, where you are matters and fit matters. Uh,

2896
02:22:02,879 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 2: It's extremely important. So you know, if that's what, if

2897
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:08,320
Speaker 2: that's what Dion said or did, I would totally I

2898
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 2: would totally understand his uh, you know, his reasoning for

2899
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:13,280
Speaker 2: wanting to make sure that his son end up on

2900
02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:15,520
Speaker 2: the right spot. So that's the parent side of it,

2901
02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:17,879
Speaker 2: and then from the team side of it, I just

2902
02:22:17,879 --> 02:22:19,800
Speaker 2: don't think you. I don't think you're gonna want to

2903
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:22,440
Speaker 2: bring in somebody that doesn't necessarily want to be there.

2904
02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:25,400
Speaker 2: So again I haven't seen the report. I haven't seen

2905
02:22:25,400 --> 02:22:28,039
Speaker 2: the information yet, but that would be my reaction to it.

2906
02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:30,840
Speaker 4: And just a quick fill up on it.

2907
02:22:30,879 --> 02:22:33,760
Speaker 69: Do you think maybe the dad maybe she could reconsider

2908
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:34,359
Speaker 69: that position?

2909
02:22:36,200 --> 02:22:38,320
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think. I mean, look, Dion's is gonna

2910
02:22:38,360 --> 02:22:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, Dion's not the average you know, coach or

2911
02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:42,279
Speaker 2: dad like he knows the NFL inside.

2912
02:22:42,320 --> 02:22:42,480
Speaker 36: Now.

2913
02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that Dion would speak or say something

2914
02:22:45,560 --> 02:22:48,400
Speaker 2: without doing his homework and and uh and saying it

2915
02:22:48,400 --> 02:22:50,960
Speaker 2: with conviction. So I wouldn't want to be the person

2916
02:22:50,959 --> 02:22:52,960
Speaker 2: who's going to try and change Dion's mind if he's

2917
02:22:53,360 --> 02:22:56,480
Speaker 2: if he's said that publicly, then I know he's you know,

2918
02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:58,680
Speaker 2: he's done his homework on that and and I wouldn't

2919
02:22:58,680 --> 02:23:00,720
Speaker 2: imagine that would change.

2920
02:23:00,959 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 12: Appreciate that.

2921
02:23:01,640 --> 02:23:02,360
Speaker 2: Thank you sure.

2922
02:23:04,400 --> 02:23:07,080
Speaker 3: Next question is from Ellie May Williamson and Tennessee.

2923
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:10,200
Speaker 11: Hi.

2924
02:23:10,480 --> 02:23:13,680
Speaker 26: Thanks for having this whole call. It's been very informative.

2925
02:23:14,120 --> 02:23:17,000
Speaker 26: You already mentioned the Tennessee players and how you stood

2926
02:23:17,120 --> 02:23:20,080
Speaker 26: on each one of them. But which one would you

2927
02:23:20,120 --> 02:23:23,879
Speaker 26: feel is more strong for this combine and this setup.

2928
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:27,760
Speaker 26: I know you mentioned a lot and Pierce teams being

2929
02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:31,520
Speaker 26: not too sure about him, and then also Sampson, But

2930
02:23:31,600 --> 02:23:34,119
Speaker 26: what do you see from that group of six coming

2931
02:23:34,160 --> 02:23:35,240
Speaker 26: to coming.

2932
02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:39,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping Pierce does everything because he sure as

2933
02:23:39,320 --> 02:23:42,640
Speaker 2: heck plays explosive and fast, so I would imagine he

2934
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:47,800
Speaker 2: would test extremely well. I'm you know on Samson, you know,

2935
02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:50,199
Speaker 2: just and talking to guys around the league and everything

2936
02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:53,320
Speaker 2: and are familiar with with his training and stuff that

2937
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:57,800
Speaker 2: you know he's he plays extremely fast and explosive, but

2938
02:23:57,959 --> 02:24:02,240
Speaker 2: might not the testing might not, so you know, just

2939
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:03,760
Speaker 2: in terms of him ripping off a four to three

2940
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:06,879
Speaker 2: or something like that. So the one that would the

2941
02:24:06,879 --> 02:24:08,720
Speaker 2: one that would entice me and intrigue me the most,

2942
02:24:08,840 --> 02:24:10,640
Speaker 2: would would absolutely be Pierced.

2943
02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 26: Okay, thank you, you're welcome.

2944
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:17,640
Speaker 3: Next question is Adam West with the Saints question.

2945
02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:20,240
Speaker 2: Hi, DJ, thanks for doing this.

2946
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:25,280
Speaker 52: Always really appreciate you man, just from kind of knowing

2947
02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:28,080
Speaker 52: when I know the Saints really feel and Emmer were

2948
02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:32,360
Speaker 52: potentially adding Will Johnson and Tatoro McMillan potentially at nine.

2949
02:24:32,600 --> 02:24:37,120
Speaker 52: You kind of spoke to why Will Johnson may be there,

2950
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:40,120
Speaker 52: and I think prior to this season, the idea of

2951
02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:42,000
Speaker 52: those two players being there at nine kind of seeing

2952
02:24:42,080 --> 02:24:47,400
Speaker 52: Ludigrits going by like three mock drafts, but he maybe

2953
02:24:47,440 --> 02:24:51,039
Speaker 52: talk about you know, Will Johnson's twenty twenty three of

2954
02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:54,880
Speaker 52: like what he would bring as a player, and in

2955
02:24:55,160 --> 02:24:58,800
Speaker 52: tetaroa as I think you made the Drake London comparison

2956
02:24:58,879 --> 02:25:00,600
Speaker 52: is kind of what I see him as of like

2957
02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:03,400
Speaker 52: what he would bring to an offense if he was

2958
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:05,519
Speaker 52: the pick at nine for the Saints.

2959
02:25:06,040 --> 02:25:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I again, I think that comes down

2960
02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:11,360
Speaker 2: to the personnel department and the coaching staff getting on

2961
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:13,320
Speaker 2: the same page. The reason why I haven't had them

2962
02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:16,400
Speaker 2: going with a skill player is just just based off

2963
02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:19,000
Speaker 2: of where Kellen was coming from as a as a

2964
02:25:19,040 --> 02:25:20,760
Speaker 2: head coach. But you know, you get together with the

2965
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:23,960
Speaker 2: personnel department there and they'll come up with the best plan.

2966
02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:27,160
Speaker 2: But you know, Will Will has got I mean, he

2967
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:29,200
Speaker 2: is central casting for what you want a corner to

2968
02:25:29,240 --> 02:25:32,959
Speaker 2: look like. He is, he is tall, he's he's rangy,

2969
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:37,520
Speaker 2: He's a fluid athlete, fluid mover, he's got really really

2970
02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:40,879
Speaker 2: good eyes, He's got excellent ball skills, So that's where

2971
02:25:40,879 --> 02:25:43,360
Speaker 2: you start. That's a really good foundation. And I think

2972
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:45,600
Speaker 2: in twenty three I just thought there was a little

2973
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:49,240
Speaker 2: more physicality to him than we saw this year. So

2974
02:25:49,640 --> 02:25:51,920
Speaker 2: you know, that's you know, it is what it is.

2975
02:25:51,959 --> 02:25:53,560
Speaker 2: And then I just thought guys got on top of

2976
02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:55,400
Speaker 2: him a couple times this year, and that could be

2977
02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:58,480
Speaker 2: just you know, it could be not necessarily have to

2978
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:00,440
Speaker 2: be a speed thing, can be a focus thing. And

2979
02:26:00,959 --> 02:26:02,840
Speaker 2: you know, they played a lot of games the year before.

2980
02:26:03,040 --> 02:26:06,280
Speaker 2: Obviously the team was in a different position. You know,

2981
02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:08,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't as good of a team. It's all coming

2982
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:11,200
Speaker 2: off of a long season. He knows, you know, he's

2983
02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:14,080
Speaker 2: going to be a top fifteen pick going into the year,

2984
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:18,400
Speaker 2: and so you know, I can understand how maybe it

2985
02:26:18,440 --> 02:26:21,400
Speaker 2: didn't match what we'd seen previously. But then you get

2986
02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:26,480
Speaker 2: to McMillan. You know, again just mentioned him and talking

2987
02:26:26,480 --> 02:26:30,360
Speaker 2: about him a minute ago. The size is outstanding, the body,

2988
02:26:30,360 --> 02:26:32,480
Speaker 2: controlling ball skills are as good as you're going to see.

2989
02:26:33,280 --> 02:26:35,080
Speaker 2: There were some I didn't talk about really the negatives

2990
02:26:35,080 --> 02:26:37,640
Speaker 2: with him last time, but there are some times just

2991
02:26:37,720 --> 02:26:40,080
Speaker 2: on backside of routes. I don't really see him busting

2992
02:26:40,120 --> 02:26:42,920
Speaker 2: it all the time, So you know, I'd like to

2993
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:45,200
Speaker 2: see that just be a little bit more consistent and

2994
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:49,000
Speaker 2: competitive with each with each rep in that regard. But

2995
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:51,960
Speaker 2: someone who can man, he can play above the rim

2996
02:26:51,959 --> 02:26:53,800
Speaker 2: in a big, big way. They'd have some fun with him,

2997
02:26:54,360 --> 02:26:57,320
Speaker 2: especially down there in the red area. But you know,

2998
02:26:57,360 --> 02:26:59,400
Speaker 2: I just I just think that it'd be curious to

2999
02:26:59,400 --> 02:27:02,400
Speaker 2: see we call it copycat league, people paying attention to

3000
02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:04,960
Speaker 2: the teams that are playing well and winning and coming

3001
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:06,880
Speaker 2: off of a Super Bowl that was just dominated at

3002
02:27:06,879 --> 02:27:09,400
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, and you have the coach who

3003
02:27:09,520 --> 02:27:12,520
Speaker 2: was involved in that game. That's why I was leaning

3004
02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:15,440
Speaker 2: more towards that that side of things than a skill guy.

3005
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:18,600
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, man sure.

3006
02:27:18,680 --> 02:27:21,240
Speaker 3: Next question is from Bleacher Reports Authentic.

3007
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:25,039
Speaker 70: Hey, thanks for taking the time, DJ. So, I wanted

3008
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:27,600
Speaker 70: to piggyback off of what Ryan dun leavy was talking about,

3009
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:30,160
Speaker 70: where you have the New York Giants possibly passing up

3010
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:33,280
Speaker 70: on Shador Sanders, and if that is a possibility, how

3011
02:27:33,280 --> 02:27:35,840
Speaker 70: do you see them addressing a quarterback and free agency

3012
02:27:35,879 --> 02:27:38,000
Speaker 70: considering that they have a coach and a general manager

3013
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:39,960
Speaker 70: on the hot seat and no quarterbacks on the roster.

3014
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was just you know, that was

3015
02:27:42,840 --> 02:27:46,880
Speaker 2: the whole Stafford theory, you know, of you know that

3016
02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:49,760
Speaker 2: that's the one that that was floating around, and that's

3017
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:52,760
Speaker 2: why I went that way with the with the mock draft.

3018
02:27:52,840 --> 02:27:55,800
Speaker 2: In terms of other options, I don't think Sam Donold's

3019
02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:57,480
Speaker 2: probably going to be in a hurry to run back

3020
02:27:57,480 --> 02:28:02,520
Speaker 2: to New York. But know that's that's the best option

3021
02:28:02,600 --> 02:28:05,720
Speaker 2: in terms of the talent that uh that is out

3022
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:08,880
Speaker 2: there and a team that needs to you know, you

3023
02:28:08,920 --> 02:28:10,840
Speaker 2: mentioned it. It's kind of tricky because you want to get

3024
02:28:10,879 --> 02:28:13,840
Speaker 2: your quarterback of the future, but there's some there's some

3025
02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:16,200
Speaker 2: pressure at least from the outside, not knowing anything on

3026
02:28:16,240 --> 02:28:18,880
Speaker 2: the inside to uh, you know, to to have a

3027
02:28:18,879 --> 02:28:20,879
Speaker 2: good year next year. So you know, relying on a

3028
02:28:20,879 --> 02:28:24,080
Speaker 2: young guy there can be a little bit tricky, but uh,

3029
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:28,360
Speaker 2: you know, the the veteran options, that's gosh, somehow, trading

3030
02:28:28,360 --> 02:28:31,440
Speaker 2: for Matt Stafford would be way way, uh way way

3031
02:28:31,600 --> 02:28:33,800
Speaker 2: up there for me in the short term, at least

3032
02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:36,560
Speaker 2: with Sam Darnold being I just don't see that as

3033
02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:39,520
Speaker 2: a uh as a possibility there you're looking at, you know,

3034
02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:42,400
Speaker 2: potentially Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, you know, there's a whole

3035
02:28:42,400 --> 02:28:45,920
Speaker 2: lot of other guys. But uh, yeah, it's not it's

3036
02:28:46,040 --> 02:28:48,320
Speaker 2: it's a lot of people have said this and and

3037
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:51,000
Speaker 2: not just my opinion, but you know, talking to a

3038
02:28:51,000 --> 02:28:54,080
Speaker 2: lot of people around the league. Man, it's not coming

3039
02:28:54,120 --> 02:28:56,240
Speaker 2: off of a year last year we had all those quarterbacks.

3040
02:28:56,280 --> 02:28:58,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not just you know, it's not just if

3041
02:28:58,680 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 2: you're bad, it's when you're bad. And there's just not

3042
02:29:00,879 --> 02:29:02,320
Speaker 2: as many of those options this year.

3043
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:05,240
Speaker 70: And just secondly, I wanted to ask you about a

3044
02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:07,400
Speaker 70: couple of prospects here on my shoe content for the

3045
02:29:07,480 --> 02:29:10,080
Speaker 70: University of Maryland. So I wanted your take where these

3046
02:29:10,120 --> 02:29:11,840
Speaker 70: two guys might go in the draft. It would be

3047
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:14,400
Speaker 70: a ty Felton and Caden Prayed through the two wide receivers.

3048
02:29:14,640 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 70: And then also just wanted to get your opinion on

3049
02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:18,600
Speaker 70: a save you on Williams out of at TCU.

3050
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:22,440
Speaker 2: Sure I'll do SAVI on Williams. First of all, is uh,

3051
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:25,480
Speaker 2: he's a fun dude to watch man, like just all

3052
02:29:25,480 --> 02:29:27,520
Speaker 2: the different ways that they use him, just like a

3053
02:29:27,640 --> 02:29:31,840
Speaker 2: jumbo athlete does the wildcat stuff, you know, plays receiver.

3054
02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:37,560
Speaker 2: You know, he's just he's a. He's a big, strong, athletic,

3055
02:29:38,120 --> 02:29:41,840
Speaker 2: physical dude, and you know it's to me it just

3056
02:29:42,040 --> 02:29:45,959
Speaker 2: drops more than anything else had the eight drops this year,

3057
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:48,400
Speaker 2: so you know, cleaning that stuff up. But he's a

3058
02:29:48,440 --> 02:29:52,000
Speaker 2: fun he's a fun, fun toy to play with in

3059
02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:53,560
Speaker 2: terms of all the different things that he can do

3060
02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:56,520
Speaker 2: and how they use him. There, Uh, the Maryland guys

3061
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:01,160
Speaker 2: talking about those two wide receivers. With Felton, you know,

3062
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:05,320
Speaker 2: productive can play inside outside, he can you know he can.

3063
02:30:05,480 --> 02:30:08,480
Speaker 2: He can wall guys off in traffic, he can build speed,

3064
02:30:08,600 --> 02:30:11,360
Speaker 2: he's fearless working in the middle of the field. He

3065
02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:13,199
Speaker 2: can go up and get it and high point the football.

3066
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:14,800
Speaker 2: So I thought he played a little bit bigger than

3067
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:20,840
Speaker 2: his size. And then with Prayther, Prayther has that size outside,

3068
02:30:21,040 --> 02:30:23,720
Speaker 2: you know, wins on a lot of shallow crossers quick screens,

3069
02:30:24,280 --> 02:30:25,920
Speaker 2: only had one drop. I just didn't know if he

3070
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 2: really had that second gear. So I'm anxious to see

3071
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:30,080
Speaker 2: him run, but does a really nice job using his

3072
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:32,480
Speaker 2: body shield guys off, wall guys off with that big frame.

3073
02:30:33,360 --> 02:30:36,199
Speaker 70: Well what round do you foresee those guys being drafted impossibly?

3074
02:30:36,680 --> 02:30:40,360
Speaker 2: Yep? I had Felton his third third round again, as

3075
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:43,000
Speaker 2: a big clump of those guys. Third, fourth round and

3076
02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:46,199
Speaker 2: then it was more fifth round for me with prayther

3077
02:30:47,320 --> 02:30:48,640
Speaker 2: appreciate it sure.

3078
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:54,240
Speaker 3: Last few questions here Mookie Hawkins and Buffalo DJ.

3079
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:56,520
Speaker 2: My guys going good. What's up man?

3080
02:30:57,520 --> 02:31:00,760
Speaker 71: Not much man? You know, I'll see uh tuesday up

3081
02:31:00,800 --> 02:31:05,640
Speaker 71: in up in Indie. Man. But Bills at thirty lots

3082
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:10,200
Speaker 71: of lots of help on that defensive line, whether defensive edge,

3083
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:14,480
Speaker 71: de tackle, cornerback, safety. Which route do you think that

3084
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:16,720
Speaker 71: the Bills would go at pick thirty?

3085
02:31:18,120 --> 02:31:21,280
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they too bad. They can't go all

3086
02:31:21,320 --> 02:31:23,240
Speaker 2: the above, right, I mean this is this is a

3087
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:25,680
Speaker 2: team that it's just got to get better on third down,

3088
02:31:25,720 --> 02:31:27,800
Speaker 2: get off the field, find ways to get off the field.

3089
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:30,840
Speaker 2: So I'm always gonna lean front to back versus back

3090
02:31:30,840 --> 02:31:33,600
Speaker 2: to front, so you know, looking at options for them

3091
02:31:34,400 --> 02:31:37,360
Speaker 2: they can get after the quarterback and you know, make

3092
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:41,560
Speaker 2: a difference from that standpoint, that's that's the direction that

3093
02:31:41,600 --> 02:31:43,400
Speaker 2: I would go. So if I'm pulling up, I've talked

3094
02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:46,720
Speaker 2: about Zaruku is kind of an interesting one that's talked

3095
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:49,160
Speaker 2: a ton about him from BC. Some of it just

3096
02:31:49,200 --> 02:31:51,560
Speaker 2: knows how to win and it can really rush the quarterback,

3097
02:31:52,520 --> 02:31:55,680
Speaker 2: You've got more, you know, Shamar Stewart gives you more

3098
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:58,600
Speaker 2: of that upside, a little bit raw, but just big time,

3099
02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:02,440
Speaker 2: big time explosiveness. You've you've got the options to trade

3100
02:32:02,480 --> 02:32:04,720
Speaker 2: back a little bit if you want. And now you

3101
02:32:04,840 --> 02:32:06,879
Speaker 2: kind of get into like the Land and Jackson area

3102
02:32:07,680 --> 02:32:09,959
Speaker 2: out of Arkansas. So those are you know, some of

3103
02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:13,240
Speaker 2: those edge rushers the DT's. I love Derek Harmon from

3104
02:32:13,240 --> 02:32:16,600
Speaker 2: Oregon as a fit there, someone who can who can disrupt,

3105
02:32:16,680 --> 02:32:18,320
Speaker 2: run and pass play on the other side of the

3106
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:20,640
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I think I think there's a chance

3107
02:32:20,640 --> 02:32:23,160
Speaker 2: he's there. That would be, uh, that would be a

3108
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:24,160
Speaker 2: fun way to add to their mix.

3109
02:32:24,800 --> 02:32:28,119
Speaker 71: Absolutely, And on the flip side of Bill's don't really

3110
02:32:28,120 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 71: need too much on the offensive side, but that I

3111
02:32:30,280 --> 02:32:33,760
Speaker 71: think they do need a playmaker. But my guy Authentic

3112
02:32:33,879 --> 02:32:36,760
Speaker 71: mentioned it first. How would a guy such as a

3113
02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:39,840
Speaker 71: Savedan Wims fit in this Bill's offense?

3114
02:32:40,680 --> 02:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're looking at like, you know,

3115
02:32:44,040 --> 02:32:47,640
Speaker 2: Debo's a little bit of the of the uh, you know,

3116
02:32:47,959 --> 02:32:50,200
Speaker 2: path that you would try and follow there. He's not

3117
02:32:50,360 --> 02:32:52,280
Speaker 2: refined like you're gonna have to be patient, like you're

3118
02:32:52,280 --> 02:32:53,840
Speaker 2: gonna just try and find ways to get on the ball.

3119
02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:55,879
Speaker 2: Right now, we're gonna give him a reverse. We're gonna

3120
02:32:55,879 --> 02:32:58,480
Speaker 2: get him a bubble. You know, We're gonna let him

3121
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:00,440
Speaker 2: do some you know, if you want to take a

3122
02:33:00,440 --> 02:33:02,840
Speaker 2: little off Josh. I'm sure Josh probably end up getting

3123
02:33:02,840 --> 02:33:04,400
Speaker 2: a new contract here before too long. You want to

3124
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:05,960
Speaker 2: take a little bit of that off him, you can

3125
02:33:05,959 --> 02:33:07,880
Speaker 2: give him some reps back there down the goal line.

3126
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:10,440
Speaker 2: Let him take that abuse as a runner. But in

3127
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:13,080
Speaker 2: terms of developing him and polishing him up as a receiver,

3128
02:33:13,160 --> 02:33:15,680
Speaker 2: that's going to require a little bit of patience. All right,

3129
02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:17,800
Speaker 2: my god, I appreciate you. Save travels. Thank you.

3130
02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:22,240
Speaker 3: All right, we're going back to Mexico here, Oscar Cleariga.

3131
02:33:25,840 --> 02:33:28,560
Speaker 72: Hello, thank you very much. Hell up from Mexico, Daniel,

3132
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:32,640
Speaker 72: nice to see you again. You see topic you talked

3133
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:36,200
Speaker 72: early in This is Soon Cold about the connection between

3134
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:39,960
Speaker 72: Chip Kelly and Dylan Gabriel. If I don't remember wrong,

3135
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:42,879
Speaker 72: wasn't Jucla.

3136
02:33:42,520 --> 02:33:44,520
Speaker 2: That's where that's right. He went there and then was

3137
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:46,879
Speaker 2: only there for a couple of weeks. Chip left and

3138
02:33:46,920 --> 02:33:49,400
Speaker 2: then Dylan Gabriel ended up transferring to Oregon. So I knew,

3139
02:33:49,480 --> 02:33:52,039
Speaker 2: I knew it was deep in the recesses of my mind,

3140
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:53,840
Speaker 2: I knew there was the connection there. Thank you for

3141
02:33:53,879 --> 02:33:54,640
Speaker 2: bringing that to light.

3142
02:33:55,240 --> 02:33:58,000
Speaker 72: Now, thanks to you, and I have a couple of questions.

3143
02:33:58,120 --> 02:34:02,080
Speaker 72: The first one what is your opinion about Jalen Milroe,

3144
02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:04,680
Speaker 72: the QB of Alabama. And the other one, you know

3145
02:34:04,800 --> 02:34:07,760
Speaker 72: here in Mexico we have a great fan base the

3146
02:34:07,840 --> 02:34:11,480
Speaker 72: Dallas Cowboys and the Pittsrooll Steelers. How looks to you

3147
02:34:11,720 --> 02:34:14,920
Speaker 72: the scenario for this couple of teams, the Petrol Steelers

3148
02:34:14,920 --> 02:34:17,520
Speaker 72: and the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you very much, have a great.

3149
02:34:17,400 --> 02:34:21,200
Speaker 2: Date, Thank you very much. With Milroe, again, we talked

3150
02:34:21,200 --> 02:34:23,600
Speaker 2: about him just a little bit earlier there. You know

3151
02:34:23,680 --> 02:34:26,280
Speaker 2: as a as a runner, he's the elite, elite, elite,

3152
02:34:26,320 --> 02:34:28,200
Speaker 2: like that's the best trait that anybody has in this

3153
02:34:28,320 --> 02:34:31,760
Speaker 2: quarterback class, is his ability as a runner. Just going

3154
02:34:31,840 --> 02:34:34,280
Speaker 2: to take some time and patience and development with him

3155
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:38,320
Speaker 2: in the past game, you know, just in terms of again,

3156
02:34:38,400 --> 02:34:40,240
Speaker 2: a lot of it's mechanically just cleaning some of those

3157
02:34:40,280 --> 02:34:43,120
Speaker 2: things up, kitchen cleats in the ground, et cetera. But

3158
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:46,080
Speaker 2: a lot to work with there, and it's again you're

3159
02:34:46,120 --> 02:34:49,040
Speaker 2: going to have to have a real plan there. I've mentioned.

3160
02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:50,959
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers were one of the teams you

3161
02:34:50,959 --> 02:34:53,920
Speaker 2: were mentioning. If the Steelers did decide to resign Justin

3162
02:34:53,959 --> 02:34:57,359
Speaker 2: Fields and make him their quarterback going forward, I wouldn't

3163
02:34:57,680 --> 02:34:59,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind Mary and Milroe up with him. You know,

3164
02:35:00,080 --> 02:35:02,640
Speaker 2: you got him Milroe potentially in like the third round,

3165
02:35:02,959 --> 02:35:05,560
Speaker 2: and you want to you want to just become a physical,

3166
02:35:05,840 --> 02:35:07,840
Speaker 2: you know, pounded team to go out and get a

3167
02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:10,280
Speaker 2: dynamic runner in this draft, which you can find. I know,

3168
02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:12,440
Speaker 2: Naji's a free agent. I like to see him get

3169
02:35:12,440 --> 02:35:16,199
Speaker 2: a little more explosive in the backfield, but having having

3170
02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:19,200
Speaker 2: Milroe to kind of develop behind Fields would be kind

3171
02:35:19,200 --> 02:35:21,760
Speaker 2: of fun, just to really go all in on that approach.

3172
02:35:22,160 --> 02:35:24,800
Speaker 2: And then with the Cowboys, you know what they're gonna do.

3173
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:28,360
Speaker 2: This is this is uh, you know more than anything

3174
02:35:28,360 --> 02:35:30,600
Speaker 2: else with them draft wise is one thing. But a

3175
02:35:30,640 --> 02:35:32,600
Speaker 2: lot of people in the league are curious about the

3176
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:34,360
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons thing. You know, are they going to pay

3177
02:35:34,440 --> 02:35:37,160
Speaker 2: him as it's going to get done? What happens with him? Uh?

3178
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:39,039
Speaker 2: That could go a long way and determining what they

3179
02:35:39,080 --> 02:35:41,880
Speaker 2: look like defensively, but they they were pretty god awful

3180
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:44,640
Speaker 2: last year on that side. Of the ball, so you know,

3181
02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:47,440
Speaker 2: finding some help up front O digazuas as a free

3182
02:35:47,440 --> 02:35:50,640
Speaker 2: agent as well, so defensive tackle and a very rich

3183
02:35:50,720 --> 02:35:54,480
Speaker 2: defensive tackle draft. That was that was a direction I

3184
02:35:54,480 --> 02:35:55,320
Speaker 2: could see them looking.

3185
02:35:56,080 --> 02:35:57,800
Speaker 72: Okay, perfect, Thank you very much.

3186
02:35:57,959 --> 02:35:59,119
Speaker 34: Have a great day, you.

3187
02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:02,400
Speaker 3: Too, hey, last two questions. This man has been very patient.

3188
02:36:02,520 --> 02:36:04,080
Speaker 3: Zinny Abraham you're up.

3189
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:06,840
Speaker 7: Hey, DJ how you doing good?

3190
02:36:06,879 --> 02:36:08,160
Speaker 2: Good to see you, buddy, to.

3191
02:36:08,120 --> 02:36:13,200
Speaker 32: See you too, man Hey. Quick update audible. As of

3192
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:16,600
Speaker 32: five hours ago, BMW Sports and Sporting News reported that

3193
02:36:16,680 --> 02:36:20,760
Speaker 32: Dion Sanders himself said that the Titans, the Browns, and

3194
02:36:20,920 --> 02:36:24,000
Speaker 32: the Giants are the only ones he wants to do

3195
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:27,720
Speaker 32: to talk to. Now, okay, yeah, now, three bagger question.

3196
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:31,520
Speaker 32: First of all, Browns fans have been screaming, Hey, some

3197
02:36:31,600 --> 02:36:35,720
Speaker 32: of them they want Mailson Graham Mason Graham as the

3198
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:38,640
Speaker 32: two pick because they want to pease my moles Garrett.

3199
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:41,280
Speaker 32: I want your thoughts on that. And then for the

3200
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:44,800
Speaker 32: I public prefer the called the Oakland Las Vegas Raiders,

3201
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:49,760
Speaker 32: as you know, uh why not Ashton gentry falling to

3202
02:36:49,879 --> 02:36:54,280
Speaker 32: that place your thoughts. By the way, one more thing

3203
02:36:54,480 --> 02:36:56,879
Speaker 32: today is Woodson's birthday.

3204
02:36:57,200 --> 02:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Go Bears. What team is going to Oh, he can

3205
02:37:02,120 --> 02:37:04,520
Speaker 2: go to my team. I wish I had one. I

3206
02:37:04,920 --> 02:37:07,920
Speaker 2: like him. He's he's one of my guys here in

3207
02:37:07,959 --> 02:37:10,520
Speaker 2: this draft class. So I he'll find his way somewhere

3208
02:37:10,520 --> 02:37:12,879
Speaker 2: in the third round, fourth round. But he's a good

3209
02:37:12,879 --> 02:37:17,480
Speaker 2: player when it comes to uh genty you were saying

3210
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:20,520
Speaker 2: there with the Raiders right if genty there? Yeah, the

3211
02:37:21,160 --> 02:37:23,160
Speaker 2: only thing I would just be is, is you know,

3212
02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:25,560
Speaker 2: is this team ready to uh to take off right now?

3213
02:37:25,560 --> 02:37:28,320
Speaker 2: Because I'm just not big on using using up what

3214
02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 2: are limited carries running back has in his life span

3215
02:37:31,280 --> 02:37:33,320
Speaker 2: on a team that's not ready to win right now.

3216
02:37:33,600 --> 02:37:35,360
Speaker 2: I almost would rather kind of build up the rest

3217
02:37:35,360 --> 02:37:38,080
Speaker 2: of the infrastructure and then kind of drop the quarterback

3218
02:37:38,240 --> 02:37:41,080
Speaker 2: or to drop the electric running back in there at

3219
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:42,879
Speaker 2: that point in time, so that every single one of

3220
02:37:42,879 --> 02:37:45,280
Speaker 2: his carries is helping us you know where we want

3221
02:37:45,320 --> 02:37:45,560
Speaker 2: to go?

3222
02:37:45,959 --> 02:37:49,320
Speaker 32: Are you saying then that Pete Carroll is not equipped

3223
02:37:49,320 --> 02:37:50,600
Speaker 32: to make the team ready?

3224
02:37:51,840 --> 02:37:54,560
Speaker 2: I think I think where their roster is presently and

3225
02:37:54,600 --> 02:37:58,480
Speaker 2: where there's three playoff teams inside their own division, that

3226
02:37:58,600 --> 02:38:01,480
Speaker 2: they are Pete Carroll. I love Pete Carroll and he's

3227
02:38:01,480 --> 02:38:04,119
Speaker 2: a good coach with a winning pedigree. And I'm excited

3228
02:38:04,120 --> 02:38:07,560
Speaker 2: to see what spy Tech does there. Who's is a

3229
02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:09,840
Speaker 2: good personnel guy. I do not think they are one

3230
02:38:09,840 --> 02:38:12,280
Speaker 2: off season away from climbing the mountain inside their division.

3231
02:38:12,360 --> 02:38:13,680
Speaker 4: So I have them go to the super Bowl.

3232
02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:16,440
Speaker 2: Oh the Raiders, Well there you go from your lips

3233
02:38:16,440 --> 02:38:18,400
Speaker 2: to God's ears. My brother in law is a Raiders fan,

3234
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:20,760
Speaker 2: and he'll be very excited to hear that. Thank you.

3235
02:38:21,879 --> 02:38:25,480
Speaker 2: But and then with with Mason Graham, you know, to

3236
02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:28,800
Speaker 2: me with Cleveland at two, you know, the quarterback thing

3237
02:38:29,240 --> 02:38:32,120
Speaker 2: is just I flirted with the idea of giving them

3238
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:34,160
Speaker 2: somebody other than a quarterback, and I did it in

3239
02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:37,400
Speaker 2: the first mock draft, and i'd heard, you know, consideration

3240
02:38:37,600 --> 02:38:40,840
Speaker 2: with you know, with Cousins is a is a possibility

3241
02:38:40,840 --> 02:38:44,120
Speaker 2: there because the familiarity with him, as well as the

3242
02:38:44,360 --> 02:38:46,560
Speaker 2: price tag, which would be next to nothing, similar to

3243
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:49,480
Speaker 2: what we had last year in Pittsburgh with Russell Wilson

3244
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:53,880
Speaker 2: with another team you know, paying the bill. But gosh,

3245
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:56,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they've they're one of there. They're one of

3246
02:38:56,560 --> 02:38:58,720
Speaker 2: those teams that I just think that if cam Ward

3247
02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:00,360
Speaker 2: was there, I just have I would have a time

3248
02:39:00,360 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 2: thinking Cleveland would pass on him.

3249
02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:03,720
Speaker 32: I'm going a sure take on this. I'd ask you

3250
02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:08,520
Speaker 32: why is Jamis Winston not better than Kirk Cousins given

3251
02:39:08,680 --> 02:39:11,200
Speaker 32: the season Cousins down here had down here in Atlanta

3252
02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:15,880
Speaker 32: and the fact that, hey, look, offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey

3253
02:39:15,879 --> 02:39:19,680
Speaker 32: got fired and he messed up his footwork all with

3254
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:21,680
Speaker 32: season long. It was just awesome, awful what he did

3255
02:39:21,720 --> 02:39:24,640
Speaker 32: with Winston and Watson and the other quarterbacks. And he

3256
02:39:24,640 --> 02:39:26,920
Speaker 32: should have got fired. So I mean, how can you

3257
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:30,680
Speaker 32: justify bereing Cousins, you know, to the Browns.

3258
02:39:30,840 --> 02:39:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, YEP. I would say because Kirk Cousins.

3259
02:39:34,200 --> 02:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I would say Jamis Winston's best season was probably would

3260
02:39:38,280 --> 02:39:41,119
Speaker 2: you know, Kirk Cousins has probably had seven seasons better

3261
02:39:41,160 --> 02:39:43,400
Speaker 2: than his best season. And I would say last year,

3262
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:45,720
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins was not coming off of a healthy year.

3263
02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins couldn't move at all. They did. It was

3264
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:51,360
Speaker 2: a terrible fit. It was a terrible match. It didn't

3265
02:39:51,400 --> 02:39:51,800
Speaker 2: work out.

3266
02:39:52,360 --> 02:39:55,000
Speaker 32: James was The best year was twenty twenty one under

3267
02:39:55,040 --> 02:39:58,600
Speaker 32: Sean Payton. Fourteen touchdowns, three interceptions. That was better than

3268
02:39:58,640 --> 02:40:00,000
Speaker 32: anything Kirk Cousins ever posted.

3269
02:40:01,320 --> 02:40:04,840
Speaker 2: Gotcha, I'll pull up Kirk Ki. I want to do

3270
02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:07,360
Speaker 2: right now. But I can promise you Kirk Cousins has

3271
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:10,040
Speaker 2: had has had much better seasons than fourteen touchdowns.

3272
02:40:10,879 --> 02:40:11,119
Speaker 26: Drink?

3273
02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:14,120
Speaker 2: How's that? What's up? Okay, we're going to get to.

3274
02:40:14,120 --> 02:40:17,440
Speaker 3: The last question here, but I appreciate that, Zenny. Last

3275
02:40:17,480 --> 02:40:21,800
Speaker 3: question Darnell's Salins from Playmaker's Blog.

3276
02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:28,120
Speaker 9: Hello, Dan, thank you for doing this. My question is

3277
02:40:28,160 --> 02:40:30,800
Speaker 9: about the Rams. I see in your latest March Drugs

3278
02:40:30,800 --> 02:40:34,520
Speaker 9: you had Darius Alexander from Toledo at the twenty six spot.

3279
02:40:34,959 --> 02:40:37,280
Speaker 9: Do you see him as a as a fit for

3280
02:40:37,440 --> 02:40:39,960
Speaker 9: the Rams or do you see the Rams can possibly

3281
02:40:40,040 --> 02:40:41,120
Speaker 9: go offense with that pick?

3282
02:40:41,959 --> 02:40:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Darius Alexander. You know, he is a little bit older,

3283
02:40:45,240 --> 02:40:47,920
Speaker 2: which we'll see some teams care about that more than others.

3284
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:53,119
Speaker 2: But just in terms of body type, like range, explosive,

3285
02:40:53,320 --> 02:40:55,800
Speaker 2: that's kind of what the The Rams have got a

3286
02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:59,400
Speaker 2: bunch of explosive defenders, and they've they've added to that bunch.

3287
02:40:59,480 --> 02:41:01,720
Speaker 2: It's I think it's the best young defensive line in

3288
02:41:01,760 --> 02:41:04,000
Speaker 2: the NFL. And I you know, I was kind of

3289
02:41:04,040 --> 02:41:07,080
Speaker 2: just and maybe some of it's the newness of watching

3290
02:41:07,120 --> 02:41:09,160
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and just seeing the waves of guys

3291
02:41:09,160 --> 02:41:12,200
Speaker 2: that Philly had, But you know, man, you just go

3292
02:41:12,280 --> 02:41:17,400
Speaker 2: get another twitchy, explosive, dynamic guy. I've kind of wrote

3293
02:41:17,440 --> 02:41:19,760
Speaker 2: down on my paper when I was watching defensive linemen

3294
02:41:19,840 --> 02:41:23,200
Speaker 2: this year, the ones I circled back on after the

3295
02:41:23,200 --> 02:41:25,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl was over, and I just wrote the word

3296
02:41:26,200 --> 02:41:28,960
Speaker 2: like I just wrote vet vet on my sheet, and

3297
02:41:28,959 --> 02:41:31,400
Speaker 2: I just said, you know, look at your notes on

3298
02:41:31,440 --> 02:41:34,840
Speaker 2: a player and if you see the words, you know, violent, explosive, twitchy,

3299
02:41:34,959 --> 02:41:37,440
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, like looking for vets,

3300
02:41:38,080 --> 02:41:39,840
Speaker 2: like those are the guys that I think you want,

3301
02:41:39,879 --> 02:41:42,800
Speaker 2: because that's what we just saw win the Super Bowl.

3302
02:41:42,920 --> 02:41:45,879
Speaker 2: So that's why that's why I had that fit there.

3303
02:41:45,879 --> 02:41:47,520
Speaker 2: And if they were going to go in another direction,

3304
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:49,160
Speaker 2: you know, there could be a little bit of a

3305
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:51,840
Speaker 2: makeover there in their receiver room, so you know, a

3306
02:41:51,879 --> 02:41:55,039
Speaker 2: Mecca Buca if he were to get there, I think

3307
02:41:55,080 --> 02:41:56,800
Speaker 2: that one makes a lot of sense for him. He'd

3308
02:41:56,800 --> 02:42:00,320
Speaker 2: be a great fit and someone who would just be

3309
02:42:00,400 --> 02:42:02,320
Speaker 2: plug and play for a team that's ready to win

3310
02:42:02,400 --> 02:42:04,120
Speaker 2: right now. And I would say the same thing for

3311
02:42:04,200 --> 02:42:07,600
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden. So those would be guys I would love

3312
02:42:07,640 --> 02:42:10,280
Speaker 2: for the Rams. Thank you, DG.

3313
02:42:10,400 --> 02:42:12,879
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Two hours and forty five minutes. You

3314
02:42:12,920 --> 02:42:15,840
Speaker 3: have certainly done your communications duty for today, so thank

3315
02:42:15,879 --> 02:42:20,120
Speaker 3: you and for everybody that's still on. A transcript and

3316
02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:23,000
Speaker 3: video of today's call will be posted later on the

3317
02:42:23,240 --> 02:42:26,440
Speaker 3: NFL Media account on x so check that out. And

3318
02:42:26,520 --> 02:42:28,800
Speaker 3: if you need anything from the communications apartment, just send

3319
02:42:28,840 --> 02:42:30,880
Speaker 3: me an email and we'll get it to you. Thanks.

3320
02:42:30,920 --> 02:42:32,320
Speaker 3: DJ really appreciate it.

3321
02:42:32,360 --> 02:42:34,879
Speaker 2: Thanks everybody, Thank you guys, Thanks for coming. We'll see

3322
02:42:34,879 --> 02:42:38,520
Speaker 2: you soon. All right, Well, there you go. That's going

3323
02:42:38,560 --> 02:42:41,320
Speaker 2: to do it. These are always long. I won't use

3324
02:42:41,320 --> 02:42:43,720
Speaker 2: the word exhausting because it's fun. I love talking about

3325
02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:46,000
Speaker 2: these players, love talking about these teams, and it is

3326
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:49,840
Speaker 2: shaping up to be quite an interesting draft. Hope you

3327
02:42:49,840 --> 02:42:52,119
Speaker 2: guys will join us for all of our Combine coverage

3328
02:42:52,160 --> 02:42:54,360
Speaker 2: where you're home for it here on NFL Network and

3329
02:42:54,400 --> 02:42:57,400
Speaker 2: the NFL Media Group. The guys will have a podcast

3330
02:42:57,440 --> 02:42:59,760
Speaker 2: coming your way as well throughout the week to keep

3331
02:42:59,760 --> 02:43:03,000
Speaker 2: you on formed on all the goings on in Indianapolis.

3332
02:43:03,040 --> 02:43:06,600
Speaker 2: So we appreciate you, appreciate you you being with us

3333
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:08,440
Speaker 2: and joining us each and every time right here on.

3334
02:43:08,480 --> 02:43:09,160
Speaker 2: Move the sticks.