Speaker 1: Being live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, And it is a Tuesday here inside
Speaker 1: the SWABC podcast studio at the Star in Fresco, Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and the star of this show, Mickey Spagnola. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that we're back together for the first time
Speaker 1: in a while a while. It seems like a long time, Agoll.
Speaker 1: I think it was November. It was, Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: it was a month ago. There you feel any you know,
Speaker 1: and it feels like the weeks are just racing by.
Speaker 1: And part of it has to do I think with
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week, went back to back Thursday games certainly had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with, right, and then even just myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week and then I went to New Orleans for
Speaker 1: the game last week, and so those two weeks raced by,
Speaker 1: and now here it is and I'm my Christmas Day shopping,
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve shopping is fast approaching, and I'm actually putting
Speaker 1: up lights this early. This is early for my family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we actually have we're putting up lights like this weekend.
Speaker 1: We already have the indoors done all that, so I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go. Man, my wife gets the indoors done,
Speaker 1: like the day after Thanksgiving. Yeah, that's well. Know, all
Speaker 1: the hard part is get bringing the boxes down from
Speaker 1: the attic. Yeah, that's that's she was on it. I
Speaker 1: didn't have to do it. No, no, what I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do it. I was shocked and
Speaker 1: like right there, I'm like, oh, I need to go
Speaker 1: out of town often. Yeah, where do you store your boxes?
Speaker 1: I need to know? And how many boxes do you have?
Speaker 1: Not only about four? Oh? Just for no, the hard
Speaker 1: parts taking the tree down, because then you got to
Speaker 1: put everything back away. It's not half of it, no, no,
Speaker 1: because yeah, you take too much care with it, wrap
Speaker 1: it up and throw it in the claws. Yeah all right,
Speaker 1: So here we are and not everybody is back to
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, but we are back to the Star. Yes. Yes,
Speaker 1: How did Landry Award go? It went very well last night.
Speaker 1: We in the past and what the Landry Award is
Speaker 1: for those who are not in the area, it's this
Speaker 1: is the twelfth year we've done it. It's in partnership
Speaker 1: with the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. The Landry Award goes
Speaker 1: to the top high school football player in North Texas
Speaker 1: and U and as the coach of the year as well.
Speaker 1: That's right, And it was five finalists and unfortunately we
Speaker 1: had to do it by zoom again this year. We
Speaker 1: did it virtually, but we we did get them, the
Speaker 1: five finalists together right out here at the Star last Sunday.
Speaker 1: I'd made it a little more special this year, h
Speaker 1: And we got their parents. What I really like about
Speaker 1: it is we've got the parents talking about the kids,
Speaker 1: and the parents get all emotional talk about especially for
Speaker 1: these kids, they're all seniors. Yeah, and so for any
Speaker 1: for any parent who's had a child who's left the nest,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's sometimes it's the dad that's the
Speaker 1: one that gets emotional, and sometimes it's the mom. In
Speaker 1: this case, the winner of the Landry Award, Josh Hoover,
Speaker 1: made news yesterday. He committed to TCU yesterday rock Wall
Speaker 1: Heath High School quarterback and so he had committed to
Speaker 1: Indiana and they had fired their offensive coordinator, so he
Speaker 1: reopened his recruiting. So he commits, he commits to TCU yesterday.
Speaker 1: Ever happened in Indiana, Well, he was one of those
Speaker 1: late bloomers. In fact, there were two Rockwall quarterbacks. The
Speaker 1: rock Wall High School quarterback who set the Class six
Speaker 1: A record for career passing yardage, Braden Locke, who's going
Speaker 1: to Mississippi State. I think Dak Prescott had something to
Speaker 1: do with it, but he was also one of the finalists. Whatever.
Speaker 1: But anyway, it was that Josh's dad, Uh he got
Speaker 1: emotional talking about him. Uh and uh, it was really
Speaker 1: it was. And so I saw that for the first
Speaker 1: time and then I'm supposed to come back on on camera.
Speaker 1: After I see him getting emotional, I'm like, I'm starting
Speaker 1: to tear up myself. And so anyway, it was fun.
Speaker 1: Which coach which coach was the Coach of the Year
Speaker 1: was from Chris Beam Where did you go to high schoolage?
Speaker 1: Colleville Heritage coach Mark kirk martin Colleville Heritage High School,
Speaker 1: who spent a number of years, like twelve years at
Speaker 1: Manville High School And in fact, this brings him back
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. He was the head coach at Manville
Speaker 1: High School when Highland Park and John Stephen Jones Stephen Jones'
Speaker 1: son Jerry Jones grandson won a state championship game in
Speaker 1: what I still say is the greatest football game I
Speaker 1: have ever seen. In fact, you saw the did you
Speaker 1: see the Baylor Oklahoma State Big twelve Championship. The game
Speaker 1: came down to the last play of the game where
Speaker 1: and it was at AT and T Stadium. I think
Speaker 1: it was the same corner of the end zone I'm
Speaker 1: about to tell you about the high school state championship game.
Speaker 1: You know, the Oklahoma State running back gets caught just
Speaker 1: inches shy of the pylon by the Baylor dB. All right,
Speaker 1: that game against Highland Park. It went back and forth.
Speaker 1: John Stephen Jones played an unbelievable game for Highland Park.
Speaker 1: And by the way, he's a past winner of the
Speaker 1: Landry Award. And by the way, second finalist was with
Speaker 1: Spencer Sanders, the Oklahoma State quarterback playing in that game.
Speaker 1: But anyway, they played against Manville in the state championship
Speaker 1: game that same corner of the end zone at at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. Manville throws a pass and the guys
Speaker 1: running for a touchdown he got caught at the one
Speaker 1: yard line on the last play of the game. Remember
Speaker 1: that that kept them from from matching what John Stephen
Speaker 1: had done. It just dawned on me. I believe it's
Speaker 1: the same corner of the end zone at eighteen. It wasn't,
Speaker 1: but in my mind it was because it couldn't matter.
Speaker 1: Chris now, but this this entire season, you know, because
Speaker 1: they all coming back. It's been a great season at
Speaker 1: all levels, all levels. I'm loving that. I heard about
Speaker 1: the South old Cliffe algo game, but big time upset. Yeah,
Speaker 1: South Cliff Altho never gets beat and South Olcliffe is
Speaker 1: usually that team that's in there, and you know, they
Speaker 1: usually kind of and they about the state quarterfinal round
Speaker 1: they lose. They won in the state quarterfinals over love
Speaker 1: Joy this week and so they are in the state semifinals.
Speaker 1: It's the first time since the nineteen fifth. Martin is
Speaker 1: looking down right now. Dallas I s d smiled down
Speaker 1: as a shot at winning a state championship. They gotta
Speaker 1: win two more games and Dallas Carter won in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight and um, and of course that was taken away.
Speaker 1: Took it away. Yeah, So so who do they have
Speaker 1: to play a good question. We'll move on to cowboy
Speaker 1: talk now. No guyers, no guyers. In six A Division two,
Speaker 1: I can't remember who South O Cliff's playing. But we'll
Speaker 1: move on, William. Let's talk about Cowboys. Yeah, well, cowboy talk.
Speaker 1: Let's go and talk. They're playing Cooper. They're playing love
Speaker 1: Ack Cooper. By the way, thank you out in Loveock,
Speaker 1: who are shouting at your podcast right now? And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are playing Washingtons right And Mickey wrote a book
Speaker 1: about this rivalry. He needs to write another book now.
Speaker 1: That was a twenty years ago and a while since
Speaker 1: this game is rivalry hasn't been hasn't meant anything since
Speaker 1: you wrote the book. I think best rivalry in sports
Speaker 1: really sixteen the game was critical, I think when they
Speaker 1: met late in the season, and then twenty was at
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen when they met for the division title.
Speaker 1: But it's been a while since these games have meant something. Um.
Speaker 1: They certainly used to in the seventies and then the
Speaker 1: early eighties personally seventies and eighties. Yeah, especially when wreath
Speaker 1: into the seventy nine and then the early nineties, the
Speaker 1: first part of the nineties because the Redskins were still
Speaker 1: winning and were the Redskins Okay, uh, they won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that ninety one season, and as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, it was the Cowboys. That probably kept them
Speaker 1: from being undefeated that year, because they were undefeated until
Speaker 1: the Cowboys beat them in game twelve to twenty one,
Speaker 1: and then they lost the last game of the season
Speaker 1: because they didn't matter, so they finished fourteen and two.
Speaker 1: Was that the on side kickstart second half? It was,
Speaker 1: and it was the hall Mary to end the first half,
Speaker 1: the first one that Troy Aikman ever completed too, by
Speaker 1: the way, as the Hall Mary, because after the game,
Speaker 1: I could remember him saying, it's like, yeah, every time
Speaker 1: they call us throw a hill Mary, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: there goes my quarterback rating because it's going to get intercepted, right.
Speaker 1: These things never work, and this one worked and then
Speaker 1: he got hurt. Steve Burline comes in, finishes the game,
Speaker 1: and Michael Irvin caught what would be the u turned
Speaker 1: out to be the winning touchdown, beating Darryl Green corner
Speaker 1: of the end zone. A couple of Hall of Famer saying, yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely it was. It was a really good game. And
Speaker 1: it was up there too, by the way, and Dale
Speaker 1: Green out all the time, and then it was one
Speaker 1: of those things that Achilles heal, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a it was a really really good game. And
Speaker 1: I've told the story before and I'll say it again
Speaker 1: since I'm proud of it. Was the last time I
Speaker 1: predicted a score and it came out right? Was the
Speaker 1: sEH yeah, because you've been blowing them on pick for
Speaker 1: quick Yeah, just fyi there and my good Fred Dale
Speaker 1: had said on Wednesday said we didn't need to watch
Speaker 1: the game. All you need to do is read the Times.
Speaker 1: Harold and Mickey would have told you what the score was. Oh,
Speaker 1: you got a reputation now. And the pick to click
Speaker 1: was Michael Irvine by the way, you know what you go.
Speaker 1: Who's the only person who remembers that me? That's right.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about the all our predictions. The only
Speaker 1: person that remembers predictions is yourself. We went over yesterday
Speaker 1: and I said, we would have if we would put
Speaker 1: us all together, we would have been a damn good
Speaker 1: pick to click. Yeah, we all we all missed it
Speaker 1: in one way or the other. We were close, but
Speaker 1: no cigars. So I said, the only one that remembers
Speaker 1: their picks is yourself. Well, I don't remember my pick.
Speaker 1: You don't know now because it was way off. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: forty something to whatever. I don't know. It wasn't. I
Speaker 1: thought I would. I thought, I said, twenty seven seventy.
Speaker 1: Right here, guys, what in twenty seven seventeen, seven seventeen
Speaker 1: Bill Jones was? It was about sixteen thirteen. Okay, and
Speaker 1: you said d Law would be the pick to click guy,
Speaker 1: and so you got that point. I got that, right.
Speaker 1: What did y'all have favorite? I had Prescott? And I
Speaker 1: think my score was was it was twenty four sixteen.
Speaker 1: So come on, but okay, pick the click? Who got
Speaker 1: the better pick the click? I had Dak Prescott, I
Speaker 1: said he didn't. He didn't get it with three. He
Speaker 1: said gallup. The Spags had Gallop. His score was twenty
Speaker 1: three twenty. Yeah, yeah, so don't if I don't get
Speaker 1: the interception, I think I think the caveat on mine
Speaker 1: was that I did not expect for I said, I
Speaker 1: think for the snaps he would have in the game,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have an impact. But it wasn't it. It
Speaker 1: didn't take a genius to figure that out when you
Speaker 1: considered that the Saints didn't have their offensive tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, you were every one of us. We were close.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick Michael Parsons every week from that
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna pick that, just say that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll just drop it down to two fifty. There you go,
Speaker 1: there you go. All right, Um, so you gotta what
Speaker 1: update you have for us here? Well, by the way,
Speaker 1: what I would like to get into today, And of
Speaker 1: course Mike Apple watch doesn't work because my phone updated today,
Speaker 1: and that's another story to get that in. Got the rant,
Speaker 1: that's a half a rant I would like to get
Speaker 1: into in the second segment, what is the identity of
Speaker 1: this Cowboys offense? But bring us up to see maybe
Speaker 1: what we need to know. Maybe it should be run
Speaker 1: the ball sixty eight out of seventy two plays, right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll set up the next segment with that. Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna set up the next segment with that. So it
Speaker 1: sounds like Mike McCarthy. As soon as he'll be back
Speaker 1: in the building is Thursday. That's when his ten days
Speaker 1: are up. So evidently he hasn't tested negative twice within
Speaker 1: twenty four hours yet. So Thursday is ten days and
Speaker 1: we'll see if he's back in the building. My understanding
Speaker 1: is the strength and conditioning staff should be good to go.
Speaker 1: The offensive line coaches, Joe Philbin, Jeff blastco should be
Speaker 1: good to go. We haven't heard any more positive tests.
Speaker 1: We'll find out more. I guess Michael do his virtual
Speaker 1: press conference tomorrow. Dan Quinn sounded and Jerry sounded very
Speaker 1: hopeful that Neville Gallimore would be back, that Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: has a chance to be back, and Terrence Steele should
Speaker 1: be back from COVID. So it looks like they're going
Speaker 1: to be possibly as healthy as they've been. And I
Speaker 1: thought the the best nugget from dan Quinn yesterday was
Speaker 1: he said, we're certainly will certainly be looking forward to
Speaker 1: getting Randy and Mike gun in Law all together. He said,
Speaker 1: if you would have told me at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year that those three guys going into Week fourteen
Speaker 1: would have only played twenty eight snaps together, he said,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have believed you. So that's all those three
Speaker 1: guys have played four naps. He didn't say the part
Speaker 1: about yeah, n B eight and four. But think about it,
Speaker 1: because those snaps basically came in the season opener right
Speaker 1: where they all three. Because Randy Gregory started the season right,
Speaker 1: he wasn't well, they would have been yeah, because Lawrence
Speaker 1: missed every game until Thursday, right, and so going into
Speaker 1: that game, um, and then and he played I believe
Speaker 1: it was thirty seven snaps on Thursday, but Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: wasn't playing, So yeah, you have to go back to
Speaker 1: that season opener. Remember they could him on a pitch
Speaker 1: count because he didn't play the previous year, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: and then came back missed the was rehabbing, I mean,
Speaker 1: didn't miss the previous year, but Parsons obviously wasn't here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so get those three guys back on the
Speaker 1: field together, and just think of the different things you
Speaker 1: can do playing those guys. You know, you can have
Speaker 1: Gregory and Lawrence at defensive end, mica at linebacker. You
Speaker 1: can go to Nickel and have Micah the left defensive
Speaker 1: end and move to Marcus Lawrence inside as a pass
Speaker 1: rushing defensive tackle. You can stand up Gregory and Parsons
Speaker 1: in the middle of a four man line and they
Speaker 1: could be the two guys that they were using standing up.
Speaker 1: So there's so many different things they can do if
Speaker 1: they can get all three back on the field together.
Speaker 1: Before we go, When you think about the season opener
Speaker 1: and we had everyone and you look at the defense now,
Speaker 1: they're better now. Yes, even with you know, being depleted
Speaker 1: from with certain personnel, were still a better defense than
Speaker 1: we were opening night. That's kind and that was kind
Speaker 1: of Quinn's point on that is because because so many
Speaker 1: people have had to play, what was it thirty three
Speaker 1: different players who have played on defense. Yes, they because
Speaker 1: so many have played, they're in a better position now
Speaker 1: than it had they not had the attrition and they
Speaker 1: could be more versatile, right, And you got guys that
Speaker 1: had been pressed into duty and now they know that
Speaker 1: what they can do and that they're they're in the
Speaker 1: system basically, although that were gods now and Spags always
Speaker 1: talks about the next man up being kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: as good as but in this regard, we have seen
Speaker 1: players step up who are not as good as the
Speaker 1: starters and still make a hell of an impact. Right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, in that regard, you can Although the shocking
Speaker 1: thing I noticed on the defense was they came out
Speaker 1: of the Atlantic game, uh, fifteenth in total defense. They
Speaker 1: have fallen to twenty seven. Now, wow, that is and
Speaker 1: that was the Atlanta and that was a game against
Speaker 1: Kansas City where it was a nineteen to nine game right, Okay,
Speaker 1: wasn't like them talking total yards? Yeah, so they were fifteenth.
Speaker 1: They're twenty seventh now and twenty eighth against the pass
Speaker 1: because they've given up those big raiders that had that
Speaker 1: sounds so a whole bunch. Yeah, big, big, big play.
Speaker 1: Got to get you to make your plays, but you
Speaker 1: give up the play, right, yeah? Absolutely all right? When
Speaker 1: we come back on mix shots, what is the identity
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Speaker 1: ended mission? All right? Okay? Um, so what do you
Speaker 1: think of that Monday night game? Last night? I saw
Speaker 1: a story, I think it was before the game that
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's ownership is trying to get past whatever
Speaker 1: to get a new stadium, and they kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to build it in Orchard Park or whatever. And I've
Speaker 1: got one sex suggestion for him. A roof. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I was riding in listening to a radio
Speaker 1: show and they mentioned your name. They said that this
Speaker 1: was your dome a roof. There is no other they're
Speaker 1: talking about you and some other mickey, no other sport
Speaker 1: that plays in fifty to fifty mile an hour wind. Right,
Speaker 1: the poor dropped the ball to kick it and itn't
Speaker 1: moved and he shanked it. Yeah, remember Icago bears, Yes, right,
Speaker 1: a roof. You're in Buffalo. There's a lake there. It's
Speaker 1: the same by Chicago there. So here's the deal. You
Speaker 1: know how they all talk about that's home field advantage. Well,
Speaker 1: home fields down right, because their quarterback got neutered, couldn't
Speaker 1: throw the ball, and they decided all we're gonna do
Speaker 1: is run the ball. See if you can stop one
Speaker 1: of these days. Goodness gracious, he might have been able
Speaker 1: to do. You know, you might with the roof. You
Speaker 1: might have scored two touchdowns and could have won the game.
Speaker 1: They're gonna there's gonna be a b match two weeks
Speaker 1: from Yes, you're right. I love to see how that
Speaker 1: turns out. Because as much as the weather still gonna
Speaker 1: be bad because there's new England I'm gonna be playing
Speaker 1: New England not nearly as bad as Buffalo, let's just
Speaker 1: face it, most likely, and I would love to see
Speaker 1: how this game comes out and how Josh Allen would play.
Speaker 1: And maybe you don't miss a field goal when all
Speaker 1: of a sudd and the ball takes but boom, wow, seriously,
Speaker 1: get a roof. Okay, Cowboys have just played the first
Speaker 1: of three straight road games. The first one was under
Speaker 1: a roof in New Orleans. They did okay there, Okay.
Speaker 1: Now playing at Washington. Have they built a roof in Washington?
Speaker 1: They have not. Have they built one at the Meadowlands?
Speaker 1: Because that's the following we definitely not. No, it'll be
Speaker 1: cold and the wind will blow. Let's still, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't usually get snow and fifty mile an hour
Speaker 1: gusts of winds at twenty three. Now, what the giants
Speaker 1: would do? I think they said they would open up
Speaker 1: the gates of something and allow the wind to come
Speaker 1: through when they used to do at the Old State.
Speaker 1: That's what they said they would do. I didn't see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what they said they would do, and it would somehow,
Speaker 1: I always blow the opposition those doors all of a
Speaker 1: sudden would raise the end. There you go. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the forecast for Landover Maryland on Sunday on Saturday,
Speaker 1: eighty percent chance of rain, high of seventy two Sunday,
Speaker 1: a low of thirty four, a high of fifty five
Speaker 1: and partly cloudy. So just wonderful. Okay, bring in the
Speaker 1: NFC East. I think the worst team with the worst
Speaker 1: weather consistently was the Giants. Yes, rookie you I think
Speaker 1: it was Winshield thirteen degrees or something like that. There
Speaker 1: was overtime over time thirteen degrees below. Come on, there
Speaker 1: were some cold ones in Philadelphia, that's true. Now. I
Speaker 1: missed the one in eighty because that that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be one of the cold games they played for the
Speaker 1: play a little of Montgomery playoff games. No one Cowboys
Speaker 1: wanted to play in higher cold. I heard that was
Speaker 1: least the theory. And of course, the last game of
Speaker 1: the year is at Philadelphia, so that of these last
Speaker 1: five games, you've got three on the road in what
Speaker 1: could be um less than ideal weather situation. The old
Speaker 1: vet the press by used to be they would have
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia writers in a box to the left in
Speaker 1: the middle was the radio broadcast, and then to the
Speaker 1: right was where the visiting media was, as if we
Speaker 1: were visiting, right, It's like we're not the visitors. And
Speaker 1: at the end of the press box there was a
Speaker 1: huge window that they would take out so the TV
Speaker 1: camera could be on the high on the sideline. And
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what the weather was, that window came out, right,
Speaker 1: and we're sitting in there one year and it's twenty
Speaker 1: some degrees and you know, you came dressed to be
Speaker 1: indoors in the press box, right, Wow, we might as
Speaker 1: well been sitting in the stands, right. And I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember the cameraman was getting just at Randy. Randy
Speaker 1: Galloway just shouted at him one time, can't you just
Speaker 1: shut that window? And then after the game, media guys,
Speaker 1: y'all can be on the auoy. Sometimes after the game
Speaker 1: they wouldn't put the window back in. They would just
Speaker 1: leave it out. So then you had to go find
Speaker 1: somewhere to write so you weren't freezing, because it's hard
Speaker 1: to type when you've got gloves on, right, And it
Speaker 1: was just miserable, just absolutely miserable. And the other thing
Speaker 1: that when we would complain about it's October and it's cold.
Speaker 1: It's like, why don't you put the windows in? Oh?
Speaker 1: The park District runs this and they have a rule
Speaker 1: about when the windows back up, right, Yeah, give me
Speaker 1: a break, it's cold. Put the windows up, all right.
Speaker 1: So Mac Jones was two of three passing for nineteen yards.
Speaker 1: Is the Patriots beat Bills fourteen to ten the snowplow
Speaker 1: game in nineteen eighty two. December nineteen eighty two, Patriots
Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins three to nothing. Steve Grogan was two
Speaker 1: of five for thirteen yards. At least threw it five times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he threw it five times. Jones only threw it three times.
Speaker 1: That was the worst. I mean, come on, that's like
Speaker 1: being in the flood. But it's snow right, because it
Speaker 1: wasn't they It wasn't just that it was packed. It
Speaker 1: was fluffy. It looked like it was about that high.
Speaker 1: Look about six inches off to you. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: you don't know why, you don't know where you're stepping.
Speaker 1: And here comes the guy on the little snowblower or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get the line here. So the next con I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't write this down right, So yes, the makeup
Speaker 1: of this Cowboys team. The identity of this Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: right now? Could they win a game in those conditions?
Speaker 1: Not the way this offensive line's blocking of late um,
Speaker 1: So it has the identity of this team. This offense
Speaker 1: changed from the six game win streak to where it
Speaker 1: is right now. Well, the identity of the team changed
Speaker 1: because they were basically averaging thirty some points a game.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the last six games, only
Speaker 1: twice if they scored more than thirty well, yeah, twice
Speaker 1: more than thirty points, thirty three and the overtime loss
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, and forty was at forty one, about
Speaker 1: forty three against Atlanta. Everything else in the last six
Speaker 1: when they've gone three and three has been twenty sixteen, nine,
Speaker 1: twenty seven. And yeah that's the three games. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not scoring, they're not moving the football the way
Speaker 1: they used to, and they've got to hope that getting
Speaker 1: their receivers back, getting this offensive line and some sort
Speaker 1: of continuity back gets them moving the football once again.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna put the name out there, Kinna Williams. Yes,
Speaker 1: how a thing's been going since Connor has been on
Speaker 1: the bench, less holding calls, but not as well consistently
Speaker 1: blocking I think at that position. To me, so what
Speaker 1: were we talking about with McGovern then is he what
Speaker 1: we thought he was or is he that backup or
Speaker 1: that is he truly the next guy up? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I and to me, at this point, if you
Speaker 1: look at the production and the ability to run the football,
Speaker 1: and I know everybody wants to talk about Zeke and
Speaker 1: the injury, but you know what he's getting met at
Speaker 1: the liners. He is getting met at with this stuff
Speaker 1: that well before he was pushing the pile four yards,
Speaker 1: well before there was a little you know, they negated
Speaker 1: the rush you know from me from the defensive line
Speaker 1: before there was movement on the offensive line. There is
Speaker 1: no more movement. And we talked about it the other day.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you will hear Bill. They are
Speaker 1: escaping from our our linement, the defensive lineman. They are
Speaker 1: not our offensive lineman, not holding their blocks nearly long enough,
Speaker 1: and they are coming uh directly at our running backs
Speaker 1: with with with no one in their way. And and
Speaker 1: the fact was unabated did I use it unabated? It's
Speaker 1: good could go. That's how they come out to spell it.
Speaker 1: But but and then and then here's the other problem
Speaker 1: when when you you played what, uh a game and
Speaker 1: a half, two games without your top two wide receivers
Speaker 1: and your other one had just come back and played,
Speaker 1: and now you're looks like, I don't know if the
Speaker 1: routes are right or what. But now the passing game,
Speaker 1: he's not getting protected very well. You're getting drop passes.
Speaker 1: And Jerry pointed out when you look at some of this,
Speaker 1: look at some of the routes they're running, like how
Speaker 1: precise are they because that affects the quarterback to do so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just if you couldn't block up front. And that
Speaker 1: was that was when when Kellen Moore was starting to
Speaker 1: talk about the stuff yesterday about the offense. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know he was talking about uh, I guess the question
Speaker 1: was they they were struggling on third down and I
Speaker 1: think they were two of thirte against the Saints. And
Speaker 1: then he said it's important to have continuity on the
Speaker 1: offensive line and throughout our offense to get ourselves going.
Speaker 1: The more these guys are together, the more we practice,
Speaker 1: get back to traditional week for the next weeks, all
Speaker 1: that stuff's going to piece together and give us an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get going. We just have to launch into
Speaker 1: this December football. And then when it went to well
Speaker 1: you're with these third downs, he's saying, well, yeah, here's
Speaker 1: the best way to get third downs converted. Do better
Speaker 1: on first and second down. And they were having trouble
Speaker 1: running the first down. So now, But when you look
Speaker 1: at it, it does also affect the way that Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore caused the plays because he looks like a genius
Speaker 1: when everything's working right, when when the defensive when offensive
Speaker 1: line is working well, and everybody's gone, all the personnel
Speaker 1: is there, everything is looking good, and he is a genius.
Speaker 1: But I want to see that guy bring us out
Speaker 1: of this doldrum right while we're having issues. While while
Speaker 1: we're having these problems, I want that offensive coordinator ignite something,
Speaker 1: create a play, create offensive line blocking schemes like you
Speaker 1: saw with the Patriots last night. They were in a
Speaker 1: trap plate. Were the last time the Cowboys were in
Speaker 1: a trap plate? I mean, the trap play is amazing,
Speaker 1: and you need someone with a quick hitter that's gonna
Speaker 1: get up the middle. If you're gonna do it with anybody,
Speaker 1: of course, you might think Polock. But if you want
Speaker 1: to open up something for Zeke, get him a trap
Speaker 1: play and get him up in there to where he
Speaker 1: can have some daylight to run up. And if you
Speaker 1: look at at at at the game at New Orleans,
Speaker 1: that first possession they ended up third and ten, Well,
Speaker 1: what do you think happened? Well, they didn't convert him right.
Speaker 1: The second possession they were third and three and they
Speaker 1: threw a little dump pass outside and they gained two yards.
Speaker 1: The next possession they did pick up a third and seven,
Speaker 1: and then the next possession they ended up going for
Speaker 1: it on fourth and eight. So they were getting into
Speaker 1: those situations where that they you know, you have to
Speaker 1: the next possession. After that, they did pick up a
Speaker 1: first down, but it was they picked him up on
Speaker 1: second down. And then it got to third and nine. Well,
Speaker 1: what do you think those Saints did? They blitched and
Speaker 1: then you end up kicking a field goals. So let's
Speaker 1: let's look at the next possession, third and seven. So
Speaker 1: they kept going in in these long third downs and
Speaker 1: that's not conducive to picking him up on a regular basis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, when you when you have problems like that,
Speaker 1: you have to look at what the quarterbacks doing or
Speaker 1: at least trying to do. You have to protect him.
Speaker 1: And the one thing I like about what he's not doing.
Speaker 1: The old Dak would have tried to throw something in there,
Speaker 1: you know, and they usually would have gotten picked off.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been throwing. Like I said, the last
Speaker 1: three possessions were a mystery to me on how all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he wasn't able to complete passes because
Speaker 1: before that he was on. But when you when you
Speaker 1: see how he played later on, he could. He could
Speaker 1: have in so many third down situations tried to force
Speaker 1: an interception in there, because let's face it, the Saints
Speaker 1: had some damn good coverage. There were not many open
Speaker 1: receivers there, and you know there were times when you
Speaker 1: saw Dak just to it in there. Anyway, besides those
Speaker 1: last three possessions, I thought he was just really accurate
Speaker 1: in regards to how he played. All Right, we continue
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Speaker 1: what do we have left here? We got about seven
Speaker 1: minutes left on mix shots? All right? Ever since since
Speaker 1: you brought up the last few possessions of the game,
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to bring up. And it was
Speaker 1: it was kind of on the heels of what I
Speaker 1: was talking about, the identity of this team. And it
Speaker 1: concerns me about this team if when they have a
Speaker 1: twenty to ten lead in the fourth quarter, especially against
Speaker 1: a team like New or well against any team, but
Speaker 1: again in this game against the only way New Orleans
Speaker 1: is going to be able to get back in that
Speaker 1: game is if you cough it up and give them
Speaker 1: good feel position or they get a you know, pick
Speaker 1: six or something like that. All right, So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: get the ball back with eight fifty seven left in
Speaker 1: the game at their own thirty two yard line. First down,
Speaker 1: they ran it to Zeke for three yards at second
Speaker 1: and seven, then incomplete pass, and then on third and
Speaker 1: seven it was the interception by Marshawn Lattimore and before
Speaker 1: that play, it was like the offense was frantic at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, you know, the play clocks going down,
Speaker 1: and it was was CD's waving and you know, like
Speaker 1: he's doesn't know what the play is and Dad, he's
Speaker 1: trying to pass it on to the outside. Right. The
Speaker 1: noise is crazy out there, okay, And so and I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, they're acting like they're behind twenty to
Speaker 1: ten instead of ahead twenty to ten. And then Dak
Speaker 1: throws a pass that was ill advised and he admitted
Speaker 1: afterwards and interception. Okay. So on that possession he got
Speaker 1: hit in the face, by the way. So on that possession,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were at ran fifty two seconds off the clock.
Speaker 1: They had one run, two passes, all right, So then
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill gives them the ball back the Kaz interception.
Speaker 1: Cowboys have it at the twenty six yard line with
Speaker 1: six twenty four left. They run Pollard for five. Okay,
Speaker 1: no problem with that, incomplete, incomplete punt, and they ran
Speaker 1: a minute four off the clock there. So the Oneans
Speaker 1: gets the ball back with five to twenty left, and
Speaker 1: then they gave it back to the Cowboys with another interception.
Speaker 1: But my concern is, at that point in the game,
Speaker 1: you're ahead twenty to ten, I'm in favor if if
Speaker 1: Zeke's hurt, whatever you don't want to, I'm in favor
Speaker 1: of taking a knee three times, run two minutes off
Speaker 1: the clock, and then give it back to them and
Speaker 1: then next time, and they got to use their timeouts eventually.
Speaker 1: I'm being facetious there, but run the ball. And the
Speaker 1: reason they didn't because they couldn't. And I guarantee you
Speaker 1: that factored in, and think about it. That's why I
Speaker 1: know I don't care whether they can't run it or not.
Speaker 1: I got at that point take time off the But
Speaker 1: they finished rushing twenty four for one forty six. Well,
Speaker 1: out of that one forty six was two plays and
Speaker 1: one was kind of a pass play anyway, thirty three yards.
Speaker 1: So they had ninety one yards on two plays and
Speaker 1: twenty and in twenty two plays they had fifty five yards.
Speaker 1: And concern, my concern, take it out of that game.
Speaker 1: When we're talking about the final five games of this season.
Speaker 1: You got three of them, and who knows what the
Speaker 1: weather is gonna be. You gotta be able to run
Speaker 1: the football in December and I'm not talking about the
Speaker 1: game plan strategy run versus pass, but there's a certain
Speaker 1: time in the game where you got a twenty ten
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth. Every year you have to be
Speaker 1: able run that football and gets in the game. Guess
Speaker 1: what they were facing the third rank rush defense in
Speaker 1: the league in New Orleans, and guess Washington now has
Speaker 1: the third rush defense. So now you still have the
Speaker 1: same problem. But earlier in the season this offense seemed
Speaker 1: to have that same identity that it basically had Zeke's
Speaker 1: rookie year, where and Zeke was running like he was
Speaker 1: his rookie season earlier in the season. Clearly he's not now,
Speaker 1: and so I think the identity of this offense has
Speaker 1: changed right now. And we've talked about a lot of
Speaker 1: the reasons why maybe it has changed. But I think
Speaker 1: down the stretch of this season, you got to get
Speaker 1: back to that. If you can, maybe they can't get that.
Speaker 1: I've told you, guys, I don't know how many times
Speaker 1: you gotta keep running expecting it to break and it did.
Speaker 1: You understand the system in that regard it worked. This
Speaker 1: is a game that you needed to win by hooker Cook.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this yesterday's bags. You gotta
Speaker 1: win ugly. That was an ugly win. It's okay to
Speaker 1: win ugly in those situations down there where you had
Speaker 1: the loud crowd. You know, you could have easily this
Speaker 1: guy's running all over the place, Taysom Hill, you could
Speaker 1: have easily just done something stupid offensively more often instead
Speaker 1: of just the one in the sex. She could have
Speaker 1: had more than one. Could they had strip sex. There's
Speaker 1: so many things that could have happened, but they didn't
Speaker 1: because we did at that moment stick to the plan.
Speaker 1: We have to keep running the ball, so to go
Speaker 1: away from it when it's truly time, that to me
Speaker 1: did not make anything. And then in the ideal offense
Speaker 1: is an offense that can win either way either okay,
Speaker 1: where you can win passing the ball or you can
Speaker 1: win running the football, depending on the strength of the opposition,
Speaker 1: what the weather conditions are, any of that stuff. When
Speaker 1: you look at those Cowboys teams from the nineties, they
Speaker 1: could win either way. They could throw it or they
Speaker 1: could run it. Well, they're not running it well right,
Speaker 1: and running it more doesn't mean it's going to be
Speaker 1: more effective. And everybody's like, well, you know, you got
Speaker 1: to use Pollard more well. He had one carry for
Speaker 1: fifty eight, he had six carries for thirteen. They're just
Speaker 1: not creasing anybody at this point. And Jerry and even
Speaker 1: Jerry and his radio interview today talked about the offensive line.
Speaker 1: They need more continuity, they need uh you know, and
Speaker 1: thinking now, what are they now? What are they going
Speaker 1: to do this week? Is Leal Collins you're starting right tackle?
Speaker 1: Or are you going back to Terren Steele now on
Speaker 1: the depth chart for in the release at Terren Steele
Speaker 1: at right tackle, But it sounded like when Jerry talked
Speaker 1: this morning, and he was being careful not to give
Speaker 1: away secrets, but he basically said, both guys are going
Speaker 1: to play, so to me, judging from what how Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore answered the question on Monday about the mac attack
Speaker 1: when they use Connor McGovern as a fullback or second
Speaker 1: tight end, it sounded like one of those tackles and
Speaker 1: maybe Terren Steele plays the blocking tight end position to
Speaker 1: help with the blocking when they go to tight ends.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna see if it plays out that way
Speaker 1: or not to try to help this running game because
Speaker 1: you go to tight ends and you're thinking, well, but
Speaker 1: neither one of those guys are big blockers, right McEwen H.
Speaker 1: Schultz Um, you know they don't get much from the
Speaker 1: other guys. Springer um, so shelt reception, his receiving prowess
Speaker 1: has really improved, but his blocking has gone still. Still, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's worse. Okay, when coming into the season, who are
Speaker 1: the starting offensive lineman, well, who are their preferred five
Speaker 1: coming into the seas Smith's Williams. Beyond this Martin, Martin
Speaker 1: and Collins and Collins. Okay, then Collins got the five
Speaker 1: games suspension, right, So the same way we talk about
Speaker 1: the wide receivers, not having those three wide receivers together,
Speaker 1: they haven't had the same the five. Even if you
Speaker 1: you trade out Williams with McGovern, they haven't had the
Speaker 1: five offensive linemen in there on a consistent basis. I
Speaker 1: don't have time to go through how many games they've
Speaker 1: had that. They didn't even have it in the first
Speaker 1: game because Zach Martin was out. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they've had it all season long, that they've had the
Speaker 1: five really that they won out there because then Collins
Speaker 1: came back from his suspension and he was not starting
Speaker 1: the first game back and then Smith went out for
Speaker 1: three games. I'm just going through it right now, and
Speaker 1: then you had Steele miss in the last game. Even
Speaker 1: if you decided that Steele was the guy instead of Collins,
Speaker 1: I don't know that they've had a game this season
Speaker 1: where they've had the five that they really prefer out
Speaker 1: there at the same time. So here are the starters
Speaker 1: they started the season, and you're right because McGovern started
Speaker 1: at right guard for Zack Martin who was out right
Speaker 1: the next game, steel Cats to come in for Lal
Speaker 1: Collins because the suspension started, and then after that it
Speaker 1: was kind of the same for looks like I mean,
Speaker 1: if if your preferred right tackle is Lyle Collins, then
Speaker 1: they have not had a game this season that they've
Speaker 1: had the five that they prefer out they had they
Speaker 1: had the one oh no, because the one game when
Speaker 1: they had Collins at right tackle and Connor Williams still
Speaker 1: at left guard, Steele was at left tackle right Tyran
Speaker 1: was out, and then the next game, Steele is at
Speaker 1: left tackle, the next game, Steele is at left tackle,
Speaker 1: then Tyrn returns, now McGovern's at left tackle, Steals at
Speaker 1: right tackle, and then the next game McGovern it's Smith McGovern,
Speaker 1: Beardist Martin and Collins at right tackle. And so so
Speaker 1: they've been re right now it's coming off this the
Speaker 1: mini bye week. Okay, all right, they have all of them.
Speaker 1: When Steel gets back here, they've got the option of
Speaker 1: whether they go with Collins. They've got everybody back now, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: And so I think the key to establishing that continuity
Speaker 1: is having these guys back and hopefully we don't find
Speaker 1: out something right when we get off the air like
Speaker 1: we dorbally do, and they can then have their five,
Speaker 1: whichever five they want to pick. They've got him available
Speaker 1: for this stretcher. But one of the key things is
Speaker 1: are they convinced that McGovern's better at left guard? They
Speaker 1: are not than Connor Willim That's what. And the three
Speaker 1: games that he started it was a plus because there
Speaker 1: was less holding calls, and some of those Williams holding
Speaker 1: calls I think they were Frans call. He got targeted. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: they said, all right, we were watching it. We didn't
Speaker 1: replace him necessarily because he wasn't playing well right, only
Speaker 1: because he was being talking. They were trying to save
Speaker 1: the holdings, so they saved the holding calls. But I
Speaker 1: don't know that McGovern's playing. I think what this offense
Speaker 1: needs more than anything is I'm on task. You know
Speaker 1: what this office need. That defense better keep giving them
Speaker 1: opportunities to score. Okay, you hold them off long enough,
Speaker 1: then you can break those pology routes of those plays
Speaker 1: and those CD LAMB play. You just keep on defensively
Speaker 1: giving them the ball back and you guys can play
Speaker 1: complimentary football until the end of the season, which hopefully
Speaker 1: but even but even like with the receivers, they haven't
Speaker 1: had the all the receivers out there. The practice schedule
Speaker 1: has been way off kilter the last three weeks, and
Speaker 1: excuses were raced with four interceptions, right, you understand, right,
Speaker 1: So that's my point. The defense has to play and
Speaker 1: give them chances. And every team that's winning ugly, that
Speaker 1: defense is keeping them in the game. And the other
Speaker 1: part of it is that those are erased if everybody
Speaker 1: gets back from COVID and are healthy and can be
Speaker 1: out on the field for practice and stuff, exactly because
Speaker 1: they haven't had that either. Because if you look at
Speaker 1: that short week after the Sunday game in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: you know you basically got one practice in and then
Speaker 1: COVID hit after Thanksgiving and they gave him time off,
Speaker 1: and then it hit the beginning of the week and
Speaker 1: they basically got in for some reason. The Cowboys can't
Speaker 1: fall back on those excuses. I know everyone else can,
Speaker 1: but we cannot. So just to be clear, and during
Speaker 1: this four game winning streak for the Washington's, I can't
Speaker 1: keep saying the football team. They're the Washington's. Okay, they've
Speaker 1: given up nineteen, twenty one, fifteen and fifteen, and they've
Speaker 1: won the last two games seventeen playing at home and
Speaker 1: at home. And it's a big game. And it's not
Speaker 1: like they're scoring a bunch of points, although they did.
Speaker 1: They did against the Bucks. They put twenty nine against
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Go figure. How big is this game? We'll
Speaker 1: talk about it the rest of the week. But if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys win, they got a three game lead. If
Speaker 1: they lose, they got a one game lead. And for
Speaker 1: more on that, join us tomorrow on mix Shots. Did
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