WEBVTT - Jakeem Grant Sr. on return game, Steelers preview | All Access

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<v Speaker 1>And good even to everybody. Welcome into another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Bears All Access when a broadcast partner from News Radio

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<v Speaker 1>one h five NINEBM. It's Tom Fair, the Super Bowl Guard,

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<v Speaker 1>and good to talk to you once again. We're getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the Hines Field trip to take on the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers here in week nine. Bears with a three game

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<v Speaker 1>slide at three and five, Steelers a three game winning

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<v Speaker 1>streak and they are now four and three. They come

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<v Speaker 1>out of the bye week and beat Cleveland, one of

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<v Speaker 1>their divisional rivals, and head coach Mike Tomlum's got them

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<v Speaker 1>back and rolling. Big Tom Coming up on tonight show,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be joined by Bill Hillgrove, the voice of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers, and we please to be joined by jackiem Grant,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears return specialist and wide receiver. Tom how are

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<v Speaker 1>you framing this game? Oh, it's a big game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a national TV game. May have Monday Night Football. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we've been watching since we are kids. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity to get things back on track in

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<v Speaker 1>a national scope. So I don't think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have any other approach to this game. Understanding what it

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<v Speaker 1>means for the future, your football team and regards of

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<v Speaker 1>this season, but how you know how positive it could

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<v Speaker 1>be going forward? Tom, this is mattah you the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. You would turn to work on Tuesday, cleared

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<v Speaker 1>from protocol. So he is back in a rolling seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be energized. But urgency the keyword for this team

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. It's definite urgency. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's okay. You need to have that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>We always talk about the you know, the fork in

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<v Speaker 1>the road and going left or going going right. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've been in other times throughout the years where we've

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<v Speaker 1>had that decision to make and we've been pressed up

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<v Speaker 1>against it and you gotta go, and so we got

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<v Speaker 1>we have this game coming up, and then you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>buy and then you got eight games left after that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But the only thing that matters is making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we get that win. The winds change everything. It definitely

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<v Speaker 1>deutorizes things that that you don't do well. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to do that because you're winning. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Steelers for example, right they started out

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<v Speaker 1>one and three, they are four and three, they won

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<v Speaker 1>three in a row. They fall through it. Um, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably had pretty good leaders and probably have guys that

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<v Speaker 1>care about playing and they don't point fingers, they don't blame,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not negative, they're positive. We got a positive room

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<v Speaker 1>in there, the players are. They're positive, they care. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, let's we want to we want to

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<v Speaker 1>start a different streak. You know, let's let's win one

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<v Speaker 1>and then win another and continue to go and see

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<v Speaker 1>where it leads. But that's kind of the mindset that

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<v Speaker 1>we have. And there's, without a doubt, an urgency and

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. And so it's a similar tone as to

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<v Speaker 1>other years when you're now talking about a season where

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to go one and oh every week and

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<v Speaker 1>that will be the theme the rest of the season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, Jeff, when you're in professional sports, you

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<v Speaker 1>never leave the sense of urgency that's one week to

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<v Speaker 1>the next. If you're on a five game winning streak,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a bigger sense of urgency because you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep on that winning streak. When you're suffering through a

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<v Speaker 1>losing streak, you have that sense of urgency to get

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<v Speaker 1>it turned around and get onto that winning path. So

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of urgency is a constant theme throughout your career.

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<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery a knee injury against Detroit, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>three week window to get back on the field. Sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like if he's ready to practice Thursday, he might have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to play this week. I hope he does. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that dude, you know he means a lot to this

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<v Speaker 1>football team. And you talk about a positive energy inside

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<v Speaker 1>the team meeting room, I think Daved Montgomery is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the instigators of a positive feeling because he always

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<v Speaker 1>has that sense of preparedness, of toughness, of give me

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<v Speaker 1>another carry, and from what he's seen being delivered by

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<v Speaker 1>Khalil Herbert, it's got to be exciting for David to

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<v Speaker 1>get back on the field. But at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>his injury, he was top five in the league in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of rushing the football and yards per carry, so

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<v Speaker 1>that was very good. And obviously his leadership and his

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<v Speaker 1>style of play is inspiring for those guys, and Herbert

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<v Speaker 1>the best in the NFC since he took over here

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<v Speaker 1>the last four weeks in terms of rushing yards. Both

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<v Speaker 1>of everybody on this defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers know

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<v Speaker 1>that these two guys are not easy to tackle, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's going to be the point of emphasis delivered

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<v Speaker 1>to the Steelers defense by their coaches. So hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to see a one two, maybe a one

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<v Speaker 1>two three punch when you add in Damian Williams, because

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about a fresh running game that inspires an

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<v Speaker 1>entire team. Dan Bush, Jermain Effetti. They still remain out seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Jenkins remains out. Kilil Mactommy will be day to day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just hope the best for klill Mac. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he's not on the field, I want the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>to play in his spot, inspired football, to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the solution defensively speaking, not part of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. So I again, I want Khalil on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>but if he's not there, the other guy's got to

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<v Speaker 1>step up to the play. Coming up next, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Jachim Grant, the Bears return specialist and wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>an in season trade from Miami bringing some juice and

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<v Speaker 1>energy to the Bears offense and special teams unit. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have that coming up next here on Chicago Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy The Score. Welcome back to Bears All Access,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Joniak. Please to be joined here on Bears All

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<v Speaker 1>Access by return man and wide receiver Jachim Grant. Jachim,

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<v Speaker 1>good to see you. You started out with a big

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<v Speaker 1>smile on your face. I think that's your personality. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You just light up a room, You light up the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Your teammates dig you already. What's your story, man, What's

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<v Speaker 1>what's with the big grin? I mean, I'm just happy, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just uh happy to be here, be in this great organization,

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<v Speaker 1>especially man, great teammates, great coaches. I mean that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you see the big grin on my face,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love it. It's just cold, I know. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing there's nothing easier about getting moved in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a season, especially with the family. But that

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<v Speaker 1>is the life of an NFL player and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way it goes in all sports. But uh, to find

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<v Speaker 1>the right chemistry, the white fit, to have guys that

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you and vice versa. Otherwise you'd be miserable if

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<v Speaker 1>it was anything other than that. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest. I'll say that's the hardest partner, just being

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<v Speaker 1>able to come here and adjust to not being away

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<v Speaker 1>from family and friends and and just relocating and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out where am I going to stay, where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do this. But I mean, Bear's work

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<v Speaker 1>for me with open arm. So man, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like a new family that that that loves me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love these guys because they're great, especially everybody

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<v Speaker 1>around the building. Hey, J came, you know, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of binge watched Friday Night Lights when it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big topic about Texas football. How big was the role

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<v Speaker 1>that Texas football played and not only your confidence but

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<v Speaker 1>also the real reality that you could be an NFL player. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas football is big, Like we shut down cities towns.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just to go to a Friday night light

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<v Speaker 1>game and just knowing that, you know that how big

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<v Speaker 1>it is a Texas It's like every Texas kid or

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<v Speaker 1>dreaming of going to the pros, like if especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing football, and I know that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my one of my dreams. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, man, I have to make it to

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<v Speaker 1>the next the next level and just continue to climb

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<v Speaker 1>that mountain and show enough I did. And so with

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<v Speaker 1>everything you know going against me, with my heightening size

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<v Speaker 1>and so um man, it was just it was It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the relentless effort that I had and um just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that I was gonna make it to the league

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<v Speaker 1>and I did. You know, so through all my career

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<v Speaker 1>I was an offensive lineman. So I can go back

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<v Speaker 1>and I can study tape of every other offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>to see how they go about their business. When you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the Chicago Bears or the league wide, when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about gayl Stairs, and you think about Devin Hester,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think about recently Cordarrel Patterson. Can a returner

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<v Speaker 1>watch tape of another returner and learn or is it

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<v Speaker 1>all your innatability that you have stored that that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way you go about your business. Um, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say a little bit of both. Um definitely coming from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a quarter up house and and you know

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Hester. Um, just just guys that I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Devin Hester would he did both you know,

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<v Speaker 1>punt return and kick return and just saying away like

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<v Speaker 1>he hit the whole and see, um, how he how

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<v Speaker 1>explosive he was and no hesitation, just flat out just

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<v Speaker 1>running and everything that he sees. He's just hitting the hole.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially and I'll say going to Cordell Patterson, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys as aggressive as you can you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll kind of like mimic kids game as

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<v Speaker 1>far as bringing everything out, because as you can see,

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<v Speaker 1>Cordell was bringing everything out. I mean, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be on the back of his heels, on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the goal line and he's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not letting any kicker get get off, not in one game.

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<v Speaker 1>And so with him, he was straight down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big guy and and I mean he hits

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<v Speaker 1>the whole like like a bullet coming out of a barrel.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it kind of leads me to the

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<v Speaker 1>next question is how fortunate are you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a coach like Chris Tabor that gives you the freedom

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, Because nowadays it's all put your hands

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<v Speaker 1>up and if it's one foot deep into the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>don't take it out. But no way, you got the

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<v Speaker 1>freedom to bring it out wherever you are. Man, That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I've been dreaming for. A coach like coach

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<v Speaker 1>Tay man, and whenever he told me, hey, j Kim,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the green light, I was just I felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Steph Curry would go to state like I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing everything out that I can and he trusts

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to get a great return. And so

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<v Speaker 1>with especially the guys on the unit, are are trusting

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<v Speaker 1>me to you know, get a great return as one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trusting those guys to get their block. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's no indecisiveness of not bringing it out. So I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime he kicks it back here, it's coming out unless

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, exactly. Jackiem Grant, our guest here on Bears

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<v Speaker 1>All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score

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<v Speaker 1>with you until the top of the hour. Listen. We're

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<v Speaker 1>used to it here. So that excitement, so I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Cordaro is a freight train coming out right, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting north and south. And then you got the ballet

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<v Speaker 1>of Devin Hester, who, by the way, celebrating a birthday

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<v Speaker 1>today is luck with him and so happy both day

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<v Speaker 1>to the ridiculous one. Have you ever had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with Devin Hester to discuss his style and what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw because he always I did many interviews with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I called almost every one of his return touchdowns. He

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<v Speaker 1>said to me all the time. I said, what what

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<v Speaker 1>makes you realize when to make that cut? He says,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I see color in the hole, I go the

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<v Speaker 1>other way. He kept it that simple, other jersey boom

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<v Speaker 1>going the other way. It's not that simple, as we know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's other instincts involved and when to hit the

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<v Speaker 1>gas and went to Oaky dooke somebody to get the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you ever had a chance to talk with

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Um? I didn't. I actually got a chest to

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<v Speaker 1>play against him. I think it was a year he

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<v Speaker 1>was in was in Baltimore, Atlanta. U. Yeah, Baltimore. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I was back there of a pre game returning kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, that's Devin Hester. I'll start strug So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I kind of didn't. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go go up to him or anything. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I was like, Yo, Devin, big fan, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I didn't even chat with him because I

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<v Speaker 1>was I didn't know what to say at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>because like I'm a rookie and I'm like, man, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is a guy that I looked up to for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and it's just like I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>my words out, Like I'm just like, hey, I just

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<v Speaker 1>introduced myself. I didn't want to, like I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so, it's whatever. I'm gonna let him do his game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna watch him throughout the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>game and try to, you know, study him live. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about Devin and I do agree that he's

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame caliber should be in there. I sent

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<v Speaker 1>a tweet out today. You know that's the next step

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<v Speaker 1>in his journey the Hall of Fame because he revolutionized

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<v Speaker 1>how teams prepared for special teams before the rule changes.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to beef up your special team's coverage. You

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<v Speaker 1>had to do it, and you had to determine at

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<v Speaker 1>key points in the game situationally, are we kicking to him?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we not? And everybody got up off the bench

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<v Speaker 1>to watch him, And I kind of feel the same

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<v Speaker 1>way when Corderel was here and when you're here now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an excitement expectation with you, and we appreciate the return.

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<v Speaker 1>We're old school guys. We don't want to see you,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't legislate out of the game. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>got to keep people safe, no question about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's still the excitement. It's the Grand Slam in the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth inning with the basis juice. You know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the big one. And you know, as as a football player,

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<v Speaker 1>do you appreciate still that kind of thinking, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a major part of our game. Absolutely, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a It's definitely a tone setter and a change of momentum,

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<v Speaker 1>like you um, I mean, they could flip the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the game just like that. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>at any given the moment that you know, I get

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<v Speaker 1>a return that it could swing the momentum or we

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<v Speaker 1>could just continue to take the you know, take the

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<v Speaker 1>air out of the stadium. So you got five of

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<v Speaker 1>them here, yet four in college? Who made you have

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<v Speaker 1>in high school touchdowns? I never did pup return ever

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<v Speaker 1>in my life since I got to National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a missed opportunity over there in missquit Thus, So

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<v Speaker 1>Adam skate horn Um, I'm not sure how many I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had a. I had a I had

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<v Speaker 1>a good decent amount. So um, But man, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I never did a point return every in my life

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<v Speaker 1>until I got to National Football League. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared. I was scared. I was absolutely scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to you because

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<v Speaker 1>I can. Let's say a quick story my rookie season.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there with Dan Rizzy, which awesome coach. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I get there and they're like, Kim, you gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a punt returner. In my head, I'm like, man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not gonna go well. Like I've never called a punt.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to judge him. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you want me to do back there. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the preseason game against Giants and we

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<v Speaker 1>double vice to guys and I just let the ball

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<v Speaker 1>bounce and go out of bounce. Rizzy is like red hot,

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<v Speaker 1>red hot, and it is like, gave me a mouthful.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got to the side, I looked there. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at coach as I said, Coach, I was scared,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to do. And then he was like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>just just calm down. That the team that's gonna block

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<v Speaker 1>for you catch the ball. I caught the next one,

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<v Speaker 1>I went for you and and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what, maybe I do got a

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<v Speaker 1>knack for this. Well, what do you what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about insight Soldier Field? Is it a difficult judgment

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<v Speaker 1>of the flight of the football, both on kickoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>punts because of you know, the conditions that can happen there,

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<v Speaker 1>the wind that can happen and even that the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's an outdoor stadium with a natural surface. Um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is quick. It is quite a difference because

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<v Speaker 1>of the wind and how much how long it could

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<v Speaker 1>hang up or it could drop at any given moment,

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<v Speaker 1>especially you know with the wind going either way east

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<v Speaker 1>or west. Um, I think it's you get that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get get that practice doing, you know, during practice time.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, I think Patio does a great job with

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<v Speaker 1>me coming out here early and kicking something to me,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it's a windy day I practice and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting getting those reps in so I can

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<v Speaker 1>know come game time how the wind is gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>and how it's gonna hang up or if it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>dive down. And so um, yes, it is different from

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<v Speaker 1>from what I've experienced. So when you practiced here a

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. Jeff and I were out there every practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, your name was already on the radar.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that week that the Bears had interest

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<v Speaker 1>in you wasn't kind of a different type of a

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<v Speaker 1>training camp practice week because of that and what we're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what do you remember from that week of practice? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I did get a tip off from my agent that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears were interested in me, and it was the

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<v Speaker 1>same I approached the training camp the same way. But

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<v Speaker 1>I told my agent, I said, hey, man, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we waiting for? It? Like, go ahead, pull the trigger,

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<v Speaker 1>Like let's let's do this, Like, let's let's get it

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<v Speaker 1>rolling so I can get caught up to speed learning

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<v Speaker 1>playbook and you know, get get rolling and so enough.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't pull a trigger quick enough and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be having to, you know, jump around find an apartment

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<v Speaker 1>and doing all this and find the house and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But man, it's better late than never. And

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<v Speaker 1>he took the words right out of my mouth. The

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<v Speaker 1>dream is here. That's his Twitter handle, folks, The dream

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<v Speaker 1>is here, jakeem The dream will continue our conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears wide receiver and kick returner after this break

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<v Speaker 1>on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. This segment

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Joniac with you. Our guest this week, jackem Grant

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<v Speaker 1>kind enough to join us. So you got quite the history.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're gonna get into a bunch of different things

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<v Speaker 1>here because at Texas Tech you broke records. You were

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<v Speaker 1>in an offense with Cliff Kingsbury before that, Tommy Tubberville,

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<v Speaker 1>you had Patrick Mahomes throwing your passes. Baker Mayfield was there,

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<v Speaker 1>was Davis Webb there as well. When you were at

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech. Yeah, I mean, and you broke Michael Crabtree's

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<v Speaker 1>school record for career yardage. There's a lot to unpack

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<v Speaker 1>right there. What was that experience like in an air

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<v Speaker 1>raid offense to put you on the map. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. I know you're probably gonna disagree with this,

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<v Speaker 1>but coming out of Tech Tech, I had yet five

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<v Speaker 1>five and seven eighths. Are we on target? Definitely not.

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell people I'm I'm five six without my

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<v Speaker 1>shoes off and five seven with my shoes on. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll tell everybody I'm five seven, but I play

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm six, you know foot whatever, a giant. So yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like Noah, I feel like I'm a tall guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm five seven and a half and I hang out

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<v Speaker 1>for that half every chance. Eight Yeah, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about all that experience your head over there?

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<v Speaker 1>How did it make you? Because we keep talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you return guy, but but you know you're getting your

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<v Speaker 1>your Beakwe a little bit on offense here too, um

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<v Speaker 1>Man offense. I always want to show people that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver first slash uh, you know, return man, because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show people with me in my height,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I already had the odds going against me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to add a little something extra to

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<v Speaker 1>my game with which was the return. And so um Man,

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<v Speaker 1>coach Kingsbury he's seen that that I could be a

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<v Speaker 1>great receiver, and so um, I mean he utilized me

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<v Speaker 1>in ways that you know to give me Mitch max On.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, linebackers um their worst corners and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I had, you know, Patty Patty Holmes throwing

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<v Speaker 1>me the ball, so it was also a great thing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, when I stepped in the building, I

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<v Speaker 1>see all the Hall of Fame Texas Tech Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Famers on the wall inside the facility, and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>to Eric Morris, was my you know, my receivers coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him. I told him I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall one day, like that's for sure, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the wall one day. And I asked

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<v Speaker 1>him one day, I was like, hey, who has the

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<v Speaker 1>school record for receiving yards? And he was like Crabtree

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'm I'm gonna break his record

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<v Speaker 1>this year, Like I'm there's no doubt in my mom

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<v Speaker 1>break it. And so, um, that was always my mentality

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<v Speaker 1>to leave a mark and leave a legacy. And so

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<v Speaker 1>no matter my height or size, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the best guy on the field at any get them

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<v Speaker 1>on any time I stopped on the field, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be the best guy. And I want to show

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<v Speaker 1>people that, like when you stand up and say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Jachim is by far the best guy on the field

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<v Speaker 1>at all times. And so that's my whole mentality and

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I approached the game. And so with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coach Kingsbury, you know, pushing me to you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best that I can be and asking me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, Jachim, I'm I'm gonna ask a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you. So you have to give me. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to give me more and more and more and

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<v Speaker 1>so um, and I was a leader of that team,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have to show show the young bucks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ropes, and and I felt like I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job. Well, JA came. So your junior

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<v Speaker 1>year you have sixty seven catches. Your senior year you

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<v Speaker 1>have ninety catches. So it wasn't were you featured more

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<v Speaker 1>in the offense? Was it just a lack of respect

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<v Speaker 1>from the other defenders that you were facing? Why why

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<v Speaker 1>you had an increase in number every year? But it

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<v Speaker 1>should have said, but by the time you're a junior,

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<v Speaker 1>they know that what your your assets are to that team.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what was the reason for the big jump?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the reason for the big jump not

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<v Speaker 1>because of UM. I would say they the respect or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. I woul would say my junior year,

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<v Speaker 1>I had, you know, I had guys like there it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just me that was doing all the work. It

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, I had Jason rro Um, I had

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<v Speaker 1>who else I had? I had Eric Ward, I had

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<v Speaker 1>all those guys there that was, you know, putting up

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<v Speaker 1>numbers as well. And you know he was spreading the

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<v Speaker 1>ball around, spreading the ball around, and so um my

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<v Speaker 1>senior year. Let's be honest, I was the only guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the only guy. So pat it was like, hey, Jackie,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming to you. Uh. Coach King was like, we

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<v Speaker 1>need you got to get it done. Like we come

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<v Speaker 1>to you third down. We don't get like double coverage

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what we come to you. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>was that guy like I was. I was the number one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt like, you know, I had to It's

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<v Speaker 1>the game that way. And I didn't have anybody helping me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just it was it was game on it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how how is uh? You know, you talk about Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Tabor and what a what a role that he plays

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<v Speaker 1>in your returning but then you look at Mike Ferry,

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<v Speaker 1>your receivers coach. The dude's intense, man. He's if he's

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<v Speaker 1>not running stadium stairs before the game, he's out there

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<v Speaker 1>leading the chairs at practice. How is he in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of helping you continue to develop your skills as a receiver. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say he critiques me on every little thing

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<v Speaker 1>you know that I do. It doesn't matter. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he tells me if I did a good route or

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<v Speaker 1>heyge the game you you round it the route, or

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<v Speaker 1>you got to come out of that that we're out smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>Um you know. I felt like he's definitely getting me

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<v Speaker 1>caught up to speed with the offense and telling me

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<v Speaker 1>in ways that they could utilize me. Hey, J King,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put you on the slot. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>your Mitch Max on linebackers, diss this and that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love his energy, like hiss through the

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<v Speaker 1>roof and he's like, hey j g U, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get you rolling, you gotta get you flying like and

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that out of him because it's a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a guy ultimately you want to play for, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with the energy and just the fact that he wants

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<v Speaker 1>you to be great and be at your all time high.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that of him. Jackiem Grant our guest

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<v Speaker 1>here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The score. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Bears all access with Tim there, Jeff Joni acts,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the legit? Forty time because we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this all day long too. So New Orleans scout

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly at your t Tech Pro day four one, potentially

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<v Speaker 1>beating Bo Jackson's nineteen eighty six combine four one two

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<v Speaker 1>and then the electronically four to three four I had

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<v Speaker 1>you at four three seven? Is the truth? Somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>between all this, I wouldn't say. In between, I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what edually let's put out. Yeah, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I can, like that was what five years ago? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can. And me running the four, I can run

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<v Speaker 1>a four three Now I can get up in this

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<v Speaker 1>run of forty three. So definitely with me, I way

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<v Speaker 1>more and you're in other words, you're lightning. I can run. Yeah,

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I can run. I can four three? Is this is impressive?

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<v Speaker 1>But I can do that. I can do that in

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<v Speaker 1>my sleep. Yeah. And when you got a quarterback like

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields he runs a four to four, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a heck of an exagger right there, right, Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's rare indeed. All right. So, um, the one

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing that I've learned and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I have the facts right. But so you're a father

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<v Speaker 1>of three, you got you got twin daughters, right, you

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>got twin daughters. Uh, you got Jachem Junior, you got

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Kaylee and Kylie. But did you have all three while

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you were in college? Absolutely? And now how did you

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<v Speaker 1>pull this off? Being a dad, twin daughters, scholarship athlete

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas Tech? Get ready for the end of how'd

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<v Speaker 1>you do this? I will tell you that was probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hardest things of my life. Not only

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I had all three of them with and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>my scholarship checks are not going to cover. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to school, I was going to practice, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a job as well, and also with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my sister in law helped out. And while

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I was at work because my wife she reactivated her

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>childhood seizures and so she was hospitalized for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. And with all this going on, so whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I got off work, I was taking I was full

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<v Speaker 1>time dad. And you know, there was no sleep in

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<v Speaker 1>zero none, And I'm talking about it was work. It

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<v Speaker 1>was school, practice, work, you know, kids, you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>and all these things all at once, like I'm telling

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you when I had no sleep, and then it was

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds where coach was like, um, we had five am

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<v Speaker 1>punishments and I was like, coach, kid, come on, man,

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not already not getting any sleep, and he

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, you're part of the team, so to get

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<v Speaker 1>up at five am, and you know I didn't. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it was Sounds where like coach was like, if

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 1>J team could get up, then anybody can get up

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<v Speaker 1>with everything's going on. So I feel like that ultimately

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>made me a better player, a better person, just just

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<v Speaker 1>showing that when adversity hits, you just got to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to push through and so and I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>did that because that was the hardest time of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Is where came from my my kids and keeping my

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<v Speaker 1>grays up and also being you know, a top top

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<v Speaker 1>guy on this team, a leader, and not showing guys that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even though I have things going on, that

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<v Speaker 1>my skill play or anything is going to drop off. Wow,

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that's impressive. Impressive thing, Tommy. Uh, I don't think we

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>can ever claim that we had that now. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was busy. I admire you in the NFL, and

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<v Speaker 1>I admire you even more now unbelievable. Well, a great

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>thing to teach them when they're older too. And I've

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>seen pictures of you. You look like one of the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the big you know, I'm serious. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>they're adorable. Oh my gosh. You were an inline speed skater? Correct, absolutely, yes, sir.

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Your mom made you do this? Is it made you

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<v Speaker 1>better football player because of that? Actually? Yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 1>say I started out doing speed skating at Broadway Skating

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<v Speaker 1>Rum and Mosquite. Um we I didn't. I wasn't playing

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<v Speaker 1>football at the time, did not want to play football,

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't thinking about it. And I was just an inline

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<v Speaker 1>speed skater, just killing guys, like absolutely killing them. And

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.479
<v Speaker 1>we used to play this game called, you know, sharks

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<v Speaker 1>in the medals, whereas four guys on skates and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of guys and a little kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the ring. I was the last one

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<v Speaker 1>to get out. I was the last one to get out,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom was in and she came in and

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<v Speaker 1>she was watching and I made all four of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys on skates fall and I end up winning the

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<v Speaker 1>h my own skates from the skating ring. And that

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<v Speaker 1>next day my mom signed me up for football, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are you doing? I'm a skater, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to play football. And she was like,

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>don't worry. It all payoff and you will thank me later.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Certainly happened. Sylvia Whitaker knew what she was doing. This

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<v Speaker 1>like Timmy, his mom dropped him off at football practice.

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>She cried for hours and she's saying, you'll stop crying.

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<v Speaker 1>You see your friends. YEA, all right, I'll leave you

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>at this. What was your favorite nickname given to you?

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>What did they call you? I mean, everybody called me.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite nickname is like even every coach, every coach

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, like my coach is still to this

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>day in the high school, so call me so like

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm dark. I'm I feel like I'm I'm a dark

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>as night. And so all my coaches called me black,

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>even like every coaches called me black, like I had teachers,

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like they didn't call me Jakim in high school. They

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>called me black like every and I love it. I

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely love it. I was like, coach, I said, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>do you see how dark I am? Like you turn

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the lights off then you can see it's my teeth

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>in my eyes, like that's that's me. I'm dark and

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I embrace it. And my coach Sherman, coach web coach Morris,

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody calls like. They still don't call me Jakin till

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>this day, and I'm saying, hey, coach, He's like black,

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing. I'm like I'm doing good, and

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and people are on the outside looking like did he

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>just call them black? I'm like, yeah, that's his nickname,

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and like it's crazy because one of my teachers is

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.479
<v Speaker 1>named her name is miss White, and so I call

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>her miss White and then she called me black, and

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>then they everybody like I don't know me, Like what's

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>going on here? Like what's going on? And I'm like,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that's that's my favorite nickname of like oh, Like it's

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like everybody still called me that back home. Still to

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>this day, coaches, teachers, principal mister Perkins still at John

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Horn Hospitals still call me black to this day. You

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>roll with it right exactly. Hey jakeem we're out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate all your time. This was fascinating and there's

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>even a lot more about you we want to get

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>into down the road. So thank you for joining us.

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you, guys, appreciate thank jackem Grant our guest

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>here on Bears All Access, Tommy and I will visit

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<v Speaker 1>with the voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Bill Hillgrove. That's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy

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<v Speaker 1>the Score. One of the prominent personalities are the rich

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>sportscape of Pittsburgh is Bill Hillgrove, the voice of the

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers. This segment of Bears All Access is sponsored

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>by CDW. People who get it learn more at CDW

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Jeff Jony Act Tom Fair with you as

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>we get you an inside look at the four and

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>three Steelers. Bill, Thanks for joining us tonight. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go back in your history a little bit because it's

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a great tradition of excellence in your career. You

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>graduated from Duquesne the year I was born, in nineteen

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>sixty two, then hand picked by the Steelers owner Dan

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Rooney in nineteen ninety four, and succeeded the retiring Jack Fleming.

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>So you got a lot of NFL history to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, our jobs is played by play, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and the big picture is to chart the history of

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the game, and you've done that really well over the

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>course of your career. Does it still feel fun? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>It is, without question, and more fun when they went

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<v Speaker 1>And so for the last three weeks, I've had more

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>fun and I did the previous three. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of this year is that this team hasn't

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>lost in a month, and you know, they finally started

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to get things together. Now, Okay, the opening game at

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo that kind of shocked the world when they went

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>up there and won. But then some reality set in

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and the reality was simply this the offensive line of

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>work in progress, not j Harris or rookie. You can't

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>expect him to carry the team, although he's looking more

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and more like he's capable of doing that. And I

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>thought that the receivers weren't helping Ben as much as

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>he needed. And in the meantime, you know, after that

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>first game where t J. Watt had a great performance

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>against Josh Allen, you know, he had some injury problem

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of put him in the background, and as

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>a result, the defense wasn't as good as I thought

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it would be. So all those things have started to

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>come together. They just have to keep the nose to

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.479
<v Speaker 1>the Grindstone. Bill. You talk about all the foundations of

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>success throughout history for the Pittsburgh Steelers. One thing I'm

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>always kind of attracts my attention to the Steelers is

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the longevity of the head coaches you have in this organization.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>When you look at the personality now of the head

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>coach and the personalities of the past, why is that

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>such a point of ephesus our success for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the Rooney way. Dan Rooney once told

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Merril Hodge, look at what we've done with Chuck Noll,

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Bill Kauer and Mike Tomlin. We took guys who had

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>no previous head coaching experience but were excellent coaches, and

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>we gave them time to learn how to be head

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.479
<v Speaker 1>coaches in this league. And I think that's their secret

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to success. The Rooneys are patient. They don't do anything

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>hair trigger, and as a result, you know, you've got

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that standard is the standard. All those coaching terms that

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you hear, but it's the truth. It's just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incredible. I mean, these are three coaches who are

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<v Speaker 1>all Hall of Fame, and I have no doubt that

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Tomlin will be there. When you look at the offense

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>right now, you think of the redevelopment of the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in a rookie running back or recommitting in a

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>sense to Roethlisberger. What is the biggest building block of

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the success of that segment of your football team to

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>get you to the point where you're at right now. Well,

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>let's just look at last year's line. And I know

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>they missed Marquise Pouncy, they missed David DeCastro, but let's

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>face it, they played hurt last year. And so I

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>said during the off season, no matter who replaces them,

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>it's going to take time, like it always does re

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>lines to mesh, but they're going to be better off

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>in the long run than playing with injured people. And

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I've seen great progress from Kendrick Green.

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I've seen Trey Turner kind of lead this group because

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>he's got the experience, and you know, their tackles have

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>done okay. I think Dan Moore Junior is a bit

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>undersized for that left side, and I know he had

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>a tough afternoon against Miles Garrett. But the biggest play

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of the game was the fourth and two where Ben

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>was about to get club by Miles, and all of

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, Naji came in and did his little chip

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and it just kept miles away from Ben so he

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>could complete that pass to Friar Muth. And that's another

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<v Speaker 1>element that really a lot of people didn't see is

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>happening as quickly as it has, and that's Pat Fryarmouth

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>is starting to show people that, you know, he can

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the fine tight ends, and I think

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>they're targeting him more now, and he's just about everything,

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and so I think it's all kind of just starting

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to fit together. Bill hill Grove our guest here on

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. This is Bears

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>All Access with Tom there. I'm Jeff Joniac. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved your call on the Fiarmouth catch in the

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>end zone a fifty fifty. You called it a combat catch.

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Is that? Is that your typical phrase for balls like

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>that in fifty fifty catches? Yes, and that and the

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 1>guy he's more physical is going to win the fight.

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And I see it a lot with Chase Claypool as well.

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Chase has got that big body and if a dB

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>or a linebacker goes up with them, they have to

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>be prepared for a battle, and I think, believe me,

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks will be the first to tell you that they

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>trust their guys to win those battles. And so far

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>this year, the combat catches scene regoing Pittsburgh's way. Nag Harris.

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>When the drafts started, the process started a thought, you know,

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>circle this guy. He's a total Pittsburgh stealer running back

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and that has been the case. An impact player at

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>two thirty does everything well the the receiving aspect of

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>his game, you know, going back to that was at

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati game, he was targeted nineteen times for fourteen catches.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>It's helping Ben in his quick game and you know,

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>if the rush is coming, Ben doesn't need to get whacked,

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>so get rid of the ball quick. And just overall

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>he's just was named October Rookie of the Month in

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>the AFC. Yeah, and that's very well deserved. You know,

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>he just he's the whole package. He can make guys miss.

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>He's physical. He had to run against the Brown's right

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to left so I can't remember which porter was, but

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>was in front of the Steelers bench, and he threw

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>two lethal stiff arms. And he can do that and

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>He's got just enough quickness and speed to really function

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>as an NFL back, And like I said, with his

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>willingness to block, an ability to block, and he's and catch,

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>he's the whole package. Hey Bill, if T J. Watt

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't being as productive as he is right now, would

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>there be any lingering personal hangover from him sitting out

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>of the practices of training camp and just dangling that

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 1>new contract request in front of the players, the team,

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>in the organization. You know, I think that kind of

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>thing after September comes and goes is a non issue.

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>And I think the Steelers felt that they didn't have

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the best September, but a darn good October and they

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>just open continues in November. So I think it became

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>an on issue with the passage of time. And so

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about the defensive side of the ball,

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's kind of when you sit here

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and watch these guys, there's so much pre snap movement

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>by a defense. You know, is this a new style

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of defense that you've had to come to learn from

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>your beginnings with the Pittsburgh Steelers to where they're at

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>in this new generation. I don't think it's new I

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>just think it's adaptive. Keith Butler, you know, having been

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a player for more than a decade in the league

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>against her only all the coaching he's done learned from

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>the master, Dick lebou. But since Dick has retired, the

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 1>game is changing, and I think Keith is wise enough

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>to know that he's got to adapt some of the

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>great things he learned from from his predecessor to uh,

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, accommodate today's game, which is changing. Mobile quarterbacks

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>is the one thing that Dick lebo didn't have to

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>do deal with as much as Keith Butler does. And

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, that's just an element of the

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>game that is real now and you have to you

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with it. And I think they're doing

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 1>his best they can to do that. I just like

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>his approach and I just like the fact that t J.

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Watt has to be accounted for and if you double

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>team him and if you double team Cam Heyward, two

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>other guys are wide open to do some damage. And

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the threat that the Steelers defense can

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>present an offense. And I think, you know, for the Bears,

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>who have dealt with sack issues this year, you know,

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that's something they probably are mindful of and spending a

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of late hours trying to combat our final moments

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>with Bill Hillgrove, the veteran voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers,

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Sunday will be excuse me Monday, we'll be in Pittsburgh

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>with our four twenty pregame and a seven twenty kickoff

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>on news radio one h five nine w BBM. Gotta

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>get one more in here for you because he's a

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>local kid from Fenwick High School here in Chicagoland. Robert Spelean,

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>a third year player out of Western Michigan, a linebacker Tommy.

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know. He's a grandson of

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Latner, the nineteen fifty three Notre Dame Heisman winner.

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So give us a little thumbnail on what he brings

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to the table. We give a shout out to the

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>locals all the time. He brings that motor that you love.

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>He brings a physicality that you love. He's still developing

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>as a coverage guy, and they know that. But you know,

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 1>with a guy like Shobert next to him, you know

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he's he's got the ability to pick up everything that

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Schoberg can send his way in terms of you know,

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you cover and how do

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you prepare yourself to you know, to be in that position?

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So you know, this guy's got an upside. And I

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>go back to Johnny Latner. I remember when it's drafted

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty three, right, let's face it. Let's face it.

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>You were born in a year I graduated from college. Yes, sir, Yeah,

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>that's when the Dead Sea wasn't even sick. Hey, and

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you got a birthday coming up this month, unbelievable. Did

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 1>you think you were going to be able to keep

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>doing this into your eighties? I thought that I'd try. And,

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>like I said, as long as it's fun and as

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 1>long as the guy upstairs goes along with the program? Short,

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>why not? I mean, who has more fun than we do?

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>We're like golf croas. What do we retire too? Exactly? Exactly? Well,

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you're the pride of Central Catholic there in Pittsburgh, also

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the home of Dan Marino, Tom's old teammate with the

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins. Great guy and a great quarterback. And I'm prejudiced.

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>He's the best I ever saw, the best that God

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 1>ever put on the planet. And I saw him last

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>week he was in town. Pitt had their Hall of

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Fame dinner of the night before the Clemson game, and

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I said to myself, you know, this school is kind

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of unique. I'm talking about the University of Pittsburgh. There

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>were four NFL Hall of Famers in attendance. Not a

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of schools can come up with that in one night,

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and that was just an incredible experience. Hey, Bill, my

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 1>senior year at Notre Dame, we went to Pitt and

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>played Pitt when they were number one in the country,

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>a team led by Jerry Foust, and we had no

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>business beating them. And we went up to that hilltop

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and we beat Pitt. One of the best games, the

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>most fun victories in my college career by far, was

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that Alan Pinkett. Yes, yes, sir, I can still see

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Yogi Jones diving and whiffing. That's the beauty of this game.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.919
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love the history, I love the stories. Bill.

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>We could talk to you for quite some time. I

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>pick in your brain about your long success in broadcasting football,

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>not only for the Steelers, but to Pitt Panthers in

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Pitt basketball. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you Monday night.

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys, if you're pleasures see you then, all right,

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Bill Hillgrove of our guests coming up next to the

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Bears angle of this matchup with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>coming up next here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.160
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<v Speaker 1>First thing you think of the Black and Gold is toughness.

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Are they a tough team here in twenty twenty one

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>or is a different team? Is Eric Finesse to them

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>as well? No, I think they're a tough team because

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you still had the senior statesman like Ben Roethlisberger on

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that team and a couple of the members on the

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.720
<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the ball, So they bring that tradition

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>along with them. But you're also trying to introduce that

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>tradition to some young guys like Nazi Harris, the running back,

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you can get these guys to come aboard

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>then you know, I think it's smooth, not smooth sailing,

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>but you know, sailing along for the Pittsburgh Steelers like

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:03.439
<v Speaker 1>traditionally we know them to be. So I think it's

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>an inspired franchise led by their head coach that trickles

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to some of the veteran players, that spills out to

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the younger guys. All right, so as we break things

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>down a little bit here, the Bears obviously have done

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>a great job run of the football. They want to

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>run the football. This is a quote from Mike Thomlin

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about what was the Browns NFL best running offense

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>last week they held Nick Chubb to sixteen for sixty one. Quote.

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>There is no secret, sauce. You have to come off blocks,

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to hit rap and make tackles. You have

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to get multiple people to the football. That's it, and

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>a Kim Hicks said it last week. The Bears have

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to do that now against the Steelers. How do you

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 1>feel the Steelers? How do you feel the Steelers chuck

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>up against the Bears rushing offense. I'm really interested to

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>listen to you call the game on Monday night because

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>they have so much pre snap defensive movement before the

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>snap of the ball that you really have to pay

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>attention to it. If you're an offensive lineman or you're

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a block or in any position, sometimes you're not going

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>to have a chance to vocally make the changes up

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>front in terms of the blocking schemes. You're gonna have

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to just trust the guy next year. And you know,

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 1>back in the generation of our time playing, there's a

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of teams that move right before the snap of

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the ball. This Pittsburgh Steeler does it with great efficiency.

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>So if everybody's not on the same page, it's gonna

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>be difficult. But if they are on the same page,

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see some big second and third level runs

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>by the Bears running backs. All right now, it's Sean

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Gibson has familiarity with Big Ben. He played him several

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>times as a Cleveland Brown. You know, he don't want

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to get He took a lot of hits in his

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>in his days. Man, he not the same old being Roethlisberger,

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that shading guys off like he used to. You know,

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I used to be crazy, man, I used to be

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland seeing that three guys had to take the

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>guy down. So obviously he don't want to get hit

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 1>anymore in the shows. And obviously that play that that

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that that that plays are designed for him to get

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the ball out quick. So oh with that, um, those

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>d Lions know that, hey, math, they can get to

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, get the hands up because obviously tips and

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>overthrows this the same got to get those get the

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>hands up, man, Hey tips some balls. Man, that's obviously

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity for us on the back end. But you know,

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>he takes shots when needed. Not many vertical passes that

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.879
<v Speaker 1>he's willing to take, but he's that quarterback that's gonna

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>take what you give him. And that's always dangerous because

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>any any time you're dealing with a quarterback, not many

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks we want to take five, y'all checkdowns all the

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>way down the field. It's it's a few select quarterbacks,

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and most of those guys are Hall of Fame, the

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees, the Time Raised, the Aaron Rodger. You give

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>him five, there take five. He follow in that category.

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So obviously you got to play tighter. There's gonna be

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a game plan where we're gonna have to play with

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>our odds vision. Break man, be a little tight end

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>coverage and you don't give those guys time to hunt

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>in the front end. But those guys know that the

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 1>ball come out quick enough man that if you can't

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>get there, get to get to get your hands up

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>because obviously those opportunities for the back seven to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to affect the game that way, and Timmy, they

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<v Speaker 1>just got to make sure they don't give up the

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<v Speaker 1>big play. The big play obviously was a hunting experience

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<v Speaker 1>against the forty nine ers, and it's happened a time

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<v Speaker 1>or two this season. So limit and try to get

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<v Speaker 1>them in the third and long. They like being in

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<v Speaker 1>third and short where they can do what he just said. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, Roethlisberger's been doing a nice job this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not only helping develop the height end position, but

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<v Speaker 1>then using the other assets he has a disposal. You

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a game where Nagy Harris was targeted. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you do which is unheard off, But then you got

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Claypool, the second year receiver out of Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>What's he carries six five frame with leaping ability last year? Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>big weapons downfield, speedy weapons and Johnson and the emerging

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<v Speaker 1>Nagy Harris. If you had a name three keys for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears to get a victory where you starting, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a time of possession on offense, keep Big Ben off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. If you can have a productive running game

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<v Speaker 1>against the Pittsburgh Steelers at home, that's the biggest weapon

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<v Speaker 1>of disaster that they don't want to face. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Bears have it with you know, whether David

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery plays or not. You got to keep justin fields,

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<v Speaker 1>versatility outside the pocket, make sure those defensive ends that

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<v Speaker 1>on that side of the ball can't rush to one

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<v Speaker 1>singular point in the backfield defense. We've been searching for

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers some way, shape or form that gift the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>Division has got a gift the Bears another interception, fumble

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<v Speaker 1>recovery and I'll even go out there and put his

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<v Speaker 1>special team's return of some not all right. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you on the radio on Monday night, four twenty

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<v Speaker 1>pre Game seven fifteen kickoff on News Radio one oh

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<v Speaker 1>five nine WBVM. Thanks for our producers Jordan tread Up

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<v Speaker 1>and Dan Bailly. For our guests, Bill Hillgrove, jackiem Grant,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Joniak with Tom there. Thanks for listening to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everybody at the score and thank you for listening tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>Good night. This is Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score,