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Speaker 2: Don't go, Philip Rivers, Please do not go. Do not

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Speaker 2: Brock Purty magnificent performance. Offensively, the Niners were a juggernaut

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Speaker 2: and guess what, Philip Rivers of the Colts held their own.

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Speaker 2: Please don't go, Philip Rivers, Please don't go anywhere. But

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Speaker 2: the Niners get the last laugh. Colts eliminated from the postseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everything you just said absolutely true. But with Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 2: you know what, man, I.

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Speaker 4: Am really, really, really amazed and actually humbled to see

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Speaker 4: what this man has done in two weeks with the Colts.

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Speaker 4: And obviously physically he is not Philip Rivers. And physically

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Speaker 4: he's not you know, he's not bending any rules as

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Speaker 4: far as how he's playing. But I think what it

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Speaker 4: says for Philip and any man woman that's walking this

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Speaker 4: planet if you can still use your mind and you

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Speaker 4: could be smart about how you handle these situations when

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Speaker 4: you step in them. As far as Philip Rivers, he

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Speaker 4: knew that he knows what his limitations are and even

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Speaker 4: though in the game he had to take a couple

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Speaker 4: of shots to you know, loosen up the defense and

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Speaker 4: keep them honest, he knows what his bread and butter

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Speaker 4: is and it's quick decisive passes. It's actually diagnosing things

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Speaker 4: and being able to give a steady diet of just

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Speaker 4: doing the right thing over and over again. And I

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Speaker 4: player that wants to be good and separate themselves from

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Speaker 4: the others and have a long career, that's how you

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Speaker 4: do it. Be ready, be smart, and be able to

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Speaker 4: understand and decipher what your job and your duty is

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Speaker 4: to come into that game and I think that's just

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Speaker 4: like I mean, that's what we saw last night from

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Speaker 4: Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven points on the board for the Colts, but

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Speaker 2: again not enough to match the Niners forty eight at

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Speaker 2: the end of today's show, because we don't know if

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Speaker 2: we're gonna see Philip Rivers again. We really don't know,

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Speaker 2: and we are lucky to have him for these two games.

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Speaker 2: End of today's show, You're not gonna want to miss this.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna give our own tribute to Philip Rivers if

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Speaker 2: this is it. Okay, it's coming up at the end

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Speaker 2: of the show today. But what happens with last night's

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Speaker 2: game and the outcome of last night's game is it

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Speaker 2: is a multi crossing intersection of the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: and we are now entering week seventeen and week eighteen

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Speaker 2: after that, specifically Week seventeen, we are gonna have a

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Speaker 2: slate where we have Chris Oladokin quin Ewers, Max Brosmer,

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Speaker 2: We may have Riley Leonard starting a game in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League in Week seventeen. That's the first part

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Speaker 2: of this is I know the Colts now have nothing

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Speaker 2: to play for their season is over, Okay for all

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Speaker 2: intents and purposes, like it's it was a great run,

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Speaker 2: it was a great time in Indianapolis. But it's it's over, right,

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Speaker 2: There's there's not going to be an opportunity for the

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Speaker 2: if you're turning to Riley Leonard in this situation, it

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Speaker 2: week coming up in Week eighteen, what is the point?

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Speaker 2: What is the point of having these quarterbacks play at

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Speaker 2: stuck I am on this Dolphins situation with yours in Tua.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like it's an obvious move on the surface.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at quinn Ewers. But you did

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Speaker 2: That's what worries me about the Philip Rivers situation is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can understand that from a viewing perspective and

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Speaker 2: They know that's their guy.

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Speaker 4: You said it like Tua. Tua is probably not going

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Speaker 4: Joe hundred percent correct, though. I mean, as a fan,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, this thing is it's it's it's convoluted.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, I think with the Colts, Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: Two to three percent chance of making the postseason, Oh

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Speaker 2: I get he's their guy. That may be even more

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Speaker 2: reason to not play him. Sure, right, like to protect

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Speaker 2: But I would much rather watch a Colts game with

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Speaker 4: I'm one hundred percent with you on your scenario right

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Speaker 4: As far as the true the ratings go on a

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Speaker 2: You think someone's going to give up their holiday weekend

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Speaker 2: to watch when yours play, I just I don't think

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Speaker 4: Dolphins don't watch it anyway. When people go to their games,

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Speaker 2: the Jets future isn't Brady Cook now the Jets' future

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Speaker 2: is Fernando Mendoza right or or whatever quarterbacks anymore? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, Dan, I'll tell you why that

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Speaker 4: And I'm probably I'm eighty percent. I'm eighty percent sure

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Speaker 2: Don right, it's go time, Go time on a Tuesday

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Speaker 4: But right now, these games like a Toledo like this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cardinals look good. I like the I like

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Speaker 6: Quarterback in the Afternoon. Mondays can be old whelming. Tuesdays,

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Speaker 2: the NFL offensive Rookie of the Year for about the

431
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Speaker 2: first half of the year. You bring Godwin back. Now,

432
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Speaker 2: Evans's return from his collar bone and they're still not

433
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Speaker 2: getting it done. They drop back to back games at

434
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Speaker 2: home a couple of weeks ago. Like, that's the issue

435
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Speaker 2: with me, is that the Buccaneers, even with getting everybody back,

436
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: they still aren't the machine that you would have hoped.

437
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: And they aren't good defensively anymore. They're really bad defensively.

438
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Speaker 2: Outside of Vita Vea stuffing the run, they aren't stopping anyone.

439
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: So I think like the Buccaneers have a much bigger

440
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Speaker 2: problem because they actually had some of their players come back,

441
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Speaker 2: and I know they still may win the division, but

442
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Speaker 2: they don't pose a threat to anybody else in the NFC. Yeah.

443
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Speaker 4: I would piggyback on top of that, Dan and say

444
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Speaker 4: it's been a combination of some cochain thing, but they

445
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: haven't performed well and they've been injured. But you know,

446
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Speaker 4: if they've gotten guys come back, and like you spoke

447
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Speaker 4: about imca Abuka, the way he played in the beginning

448
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Speaker 4: of the season, you get all those other guys back

449
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Speaker 4: and you think he'll be able to continue that, and

450
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Speaker 4: he has not played that way in the second half.

451
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Speaker 2: Of the season. You want to take the Lions side

452
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Speaker 2: of things, Chris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think It's fascinating because I've seen some numbers

454
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Speaker 3: that indicate it's a lot of the same offensive metrics

455
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Speaker 3: on like a macro scale. The Lions have hit this year,

456
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Speaker 3: but clearly it's not winning them as many games. Part

457
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Speaker 3: of that's the schedule they had to play, and you

458
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Speaker 3: want to talk about an understated part of what the

459
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: Lions had to adjust with besides Ben Johnson, but like

460
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: the core of their team, the offensive line turned over

461
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 3: three different changes on the interior that entire interior of

462
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Speaker 3: their line. Frank rag Now has gone, Kevin Zeitler left,

463
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Speaker 3: Graham Glasgow's now was acting to play center, and he

464
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Speaker 3: was out against the Steelers. They've suffered a lot of

465
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Speaker 3: turnover on the offensive line, which means the run game

466
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Speaker 3: can't get going, which means that their offense really can't

467
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Speaker 3: going on some games when they can't establish that run.

468
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Speaker 3: And like the Buccaneers, they kind of have that injury

469
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Speaker 3: bug again on their defense, not as not as overwhelming

470
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Speaker 3: as it was last year, but they have no healthy dbs.

471
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Speaker 3: I was joking with Carrie on Sunday that he might

472
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Speaker 3: have to suit up for the Lions as safety or something.

473
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Speaker 2: Well, it's also like I think the injuries are a problem,

474
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Speaker 2: Like why you wouldn't see Jamiir Gibbs have the game

475
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Speaker 2: that you should have had in the running game. Hank

476
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: Fraleyer is the guy that you know stays around Jannor

477
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Engstrand left with Aaron Glenn to the Jets. But obviously

478
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: there is an issue because you made a change at

479
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and play calling mid season. They have Dan

480
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: Campbell calling the plays from Johnny Morton, so there's there's

481
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: obviously an issue there the Bucks. To Jason's point, there

482
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Speaker 2: may be there may be an issue with the coordinators,

483
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Speaker 2: which I think is true. At some point there's going

484
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: to be attrition. You can't lose Canalis, you can't lose

485
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Speaker 2: Cohen and think that you're just gonna be able to

486
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Speaker 2: replace these guys and maybe it's caught up in Tampa. Yeah,

487
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: all right, I want to kind of go along that.

488
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Speaker 2: And speaking of Liam Cohen, this is this was Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton prior to the lead up to the game on

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Speaker 2: Sunday against Jacksonville. As as you look at him and

491
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Speaker 2: and and and you watch the tape, it you know

492
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Speaker 2: it's a smaller market, but you see a real good team. Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen's response after beating Denver on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Great team effort. Just thankful that you know, a small

495
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Speaker 7: market team like us can come into a place like

496
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Speaker 7: Mile High and get it done.

497
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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it. Uh,

498
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Speaker 2: you know it's going crazy on TikTok. Everybody's looking at

499
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: that clip. There's there's a couple of things within this

500
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Speaker 2: number One a small market team. Sean Payton isn't saying

501
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Speaker 2: that they're the the little engine that could. What Seana

502
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Speaker 2: was trying to say, and I know Carrie doesn't believe

503
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Speaker 2: because you think Sean Payton always has a reason is

504
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: that people may not know how good Jacksonville is because

505
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 2: they don't garner a lot of national attention. Yes, and

506
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Speaker 2: I think that that's fair because the smallest market teams

507
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: in the National Football leagu quite honestly right now, are

508
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: the most popular. It's the Packers and the Bills. Like

509
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: when you look at like the fan base of those teams,

510
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: I mean it's just just huge, huge fan bases. But

511
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: in the cities that they're into, the smaller markets. I

512
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: don't think he was trying to side swipe. But what

513
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Speaker 2: should also be known of this is the transformation of

514
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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen. When we all were truly introduced to Liam Cohen,

515
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: it was last year when he was introduced as the

516
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Speaker 2: Jaguars coach and obviously said this due okay with that

517
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: weird look on his space. Have you seen Liam Cohen.

518
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: Now you're doing it as well. This transformation aviator glasses,

519
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: black hat, black vest, black sleeve. You're not messing with me.

520
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: This transformation of Liam Cohen is amazing. And by the way,

521
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: his words for Sean Payton not the only coach he's

522
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: had words with. Remember in San Francisco earlier in the

523
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: year when Robert Sala was trying to pay them a

524
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: compliment and Cohen's like, keep my team out of your

525
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: mouth or what like what are we doing? Like like

526
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, just enjoy the ride. But he's turned into

527
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 2: it's like he's over compensating for Duvall. Now has this

528
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: whole new look. He's yelling at other head coaches taking shots.

529
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: It's a complete transformation. It's like he went on Ricky

530
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: Lake and they gave him a new makeover. I don't

531
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: know if that was the talk show that did makeovers,

532
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: but they turned him around and now he's like this cool,

533
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: slick villain.

534
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen has turned into the terminator, a long black jacket, leather,

535
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: the glasses. Play that clip again, dude, that's Liam.

536
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Speaker 5: Oh.

537
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Speaker 2: I know, I love it.

538
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Speaker 4: I love the confidence he has his team, the pulse

539
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 4: of his team, and they're going after And you know, Dan,

540
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: you cannot say that Sean Peyton didn't mean anything because

541
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not riding with that at all.

542
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 2: Dan. I think he was trying not to offend them.

543
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: I say, like, nobody really knows about them. But then

544
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: I'm sure Lee and Calm would have taken you know,

545
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: exception to that, or take offense to that and call

546
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: him out for it. So he just called them small market,

547
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: which is true. And by the way, in the NFL

548
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: with a salary cap doesn't matter, like it's different in

549
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. But it's not a it's not a putdown,

550
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: it's not a it's just explaining on what it was

551
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: that maybe they weren't as popular, but whatever, use it

552
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: his motivation. But this transformation of Liam Cohen in almost

553
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: a year to me is pretty staggering. Wow.

554
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Speaker 4: All right, I guess for mine, the one thing that

555
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: I would talk about here in his moment, we talked

556
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: about this this, I talked about the sports gambling stuff

557
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: and us as fans being so you know, enraptured and captured,

558
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: you know, in the involvement of what that brings us

559
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: as fans as well to the surface. I think, and

560
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: I think a lot of times we hear these allegations

561
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: of like a Terry Rosier and why he's not playing

562
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: this year and having some inside betting situation things happening.

563
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: And I just saw the other day.

564
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: Where the lawyers are getting or moving to try to

565
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 4: dismiss all the betting charges against Terry Roseer because of

566
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: the language of the league and saying the league jumped

567
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: into this and suspended him without paying all these things

568
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: in this preliminary way that they usually do. But now

569
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Speaker 4: it's now with the information coming out, it's circling back

570
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: around that you know, he didn't have really anything to

571
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Speaker 4: do with that stuff. And so I want to talk

572
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 4: about us jumping on the bandwagging of you know, pointing

573
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: the finger at people and saying they're guilty before they're

574
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Speaker 4: guilty in these situations.

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Speaker 2: You so you think Terry Roseier is innocent? Is that

576
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Speaker 2: what you're saying?

577
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Speaker 4: That I think he may have less involvement than we

578
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: thought he did at first.

579
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Speaker 2: Okay, do you think this translates into the NFL. Do

580
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Speaker 2: you think that we are going to have NBA sort

581
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: of betting problems like we do, or have NFL betting

582
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: problems like we do in the NBA. I don't think we.

583
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't think we will.

584
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Speaker 4: I think with the NFL, you can have one guy

585
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Speaker 4: that can mess up a game, and I think that

586
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: usually boils down to the quarterback and the kicker because

587
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: they control so much of it. You would think that

588
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks and kickers would be a little bit more,

589
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Speaker 4: have a little bit more integrity because they are isolated

590
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Speaker 4: so much. That'll be hard for them to throw a

591
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Speaker 4: game or to help somebody on the outside to cash

592
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Speaker 4: in on the bet.

593
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I can imagine them taking a running back off

594
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: and going into the tent and be like, nothing's wrong.

595
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Speaker 2: I don't know how. Just the ankle feels sore, you know,

596
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Speaker 2: I just can't No, He's final to go in like

597
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: it'd be tough to do in the NFL to try

598
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Speaker 2: to hit a rushing under like Terry Rozier would.

599
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Speaker 5: I think Carrie just did it again. And I'm not

600
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Speaker 5: saying I'm not I'm not pointing out that that you're

601
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Speaker 5: wrong here, but I find it interesting because I got

602
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: I got into a Twitter spat recently with an NFL

603
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: influencer about He's like, man, the refereeing today could not

604
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: be worse. And my thing is like, if you think

605
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 5: about it this way, if there are referee crews being compromised, Okay,

606
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Speaker 5: you basically just said that it would have to be

607
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 5: the kicker or the quarterback. Yeah, I don't for whatever reason,

608
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 5: the officials are given this massive pass or we just

609
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: have a blind spot with officiating crews. They don't make

610
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: a whole lot of money, and they would be the

611
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Speaker 5: people that could most control these things. And if you

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Speaker 5: did have a compromise crew, wouldn't it look like a mess?

613
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Speaker 5: Wouldn't you be scratching your head like all game at

614
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 5: certain calls? Why why would he call that? Why wouldn't

615
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 5: he call that? Like when you're talking about gambling and

616
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: how it's entered sports. Yeah, and then the people that

617
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: have the most influenced to alter results. I think that

618
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: NFL officials, for whatever reason, kind of get a pass

619
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Speaker 5: on this. And I I I just have a feeling

620
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Speaker 5: when if if not not not if, but when there's

621
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Speaker 5: a major NFL gambling scandal, there's going to be an

622
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Speaker 5: officiating crew in like the forefront of the charges.

623
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Speaker 2: See, I think that. I think the only reasons that

624
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: refs would make bad causes so they can get on TV.

625
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Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's pukkuis that's because they have a dream text.

626
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Last week, he's so smart. He said that the officiating

627
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL is a little suss Oh with that

628
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: a real tweet. That was well. He tweeted then after

629
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: the Seahawks game about all the people who yelled at

630
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Speaker 2: him about his comments about the referees, saying that the

631
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: refs cost them, but his point was he thinks refs

632
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Speaker 2: throw pass interference flags, which by the way, would benefit

633
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: benefit him. Do you want to Oh, we got it.

634
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Let's let's see. Let's straight get straight from Puka.

635
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, the work because there's just some of the rules

636
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 7: aren't then, like.

637
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Speaker 4: These guys want to be These guys are lawyers, and like, brother,

638
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: they want to be on TV too.

639
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 6: Brother, like the game, you don't think he's he's texting

640
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 6: his friends.

641
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 8: In the group chat.

642
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: Like yo, you guys just saw many Sunday Night football

643
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: like that, Like that wasn't p I like, but I

644
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: called it was serious.

645
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Speaker 4: I mean, these guys are noble.

646
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Speaker 2: Human Wow, that is a conversation that sounds like it

647
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Speaker 2: could be on Mars, like like in the in the

648
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Speaker 2: guys and I know they're streamers and I know they

649
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Speaker 2: have millions of followers, but to be like, no, no way,

650
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Speaker 2: take me to your leader there.

651
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's is especially strange a comment coming from

652
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Speaker 3: an NFL player, and it could just be come from

653
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Speaker 3: a fan, and a fan would sound delusional saying it.

654
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Speaker 2: But a guy who's been playing professional football for several

655
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: years also he should know better. I also don't think

656
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: that it was looked at enough that this is a

657
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Speaker 2: guy who would then benefit from said ref throwing a

658
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Speaker 2: flag on an offense on a pass interference call, right,

659
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: so he would benefit team would benefit. But he's saying, yeah,

660
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: this stuff is sus man, this stuff is really sus

661
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: Can I take my Tuesday morning quarterback back? That's another thing, Dan,

662
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: I hate.

663
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Speaker 4: You know, I've talked about it before, these players speaking

664
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Speaker 4: on these podcasts and thinking that it's not going to

665
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: be heard by the whole world, like that medium has

666
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: taken over our consumption of like media, and so when

667
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: you say these things, it's fair game. Michael Porter Junior

668
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: is the same way, saying a lot of the things back.

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Speaker 2: In the day. I've had podcasts that have been listened

670
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: to by nobody, So it's not all of them. Iowa, Sam.

671
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: I'll be quick here. We're nearing the end of the season.

672
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of candidates who could be AP Coach

673
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: of the Year. I'll just list a few. Dan you

674
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: or guy Mike McDonald could have very well be a candidate.

675
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson could be a candidate for Coach of the Year,

676
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, Dimico Ryans. But if you look at the

677
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: coaching jobs that Kyle Shanahan of the Niners have done

678
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: and Jim Harbaugh of the Chargers navigating injuries, and you

679
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: maybe flip a coin between those two. But if I

680
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: had to pick one of those two, Kyle Shanahan or

681
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh, I'd probably give it to Jim Harbaugh just

682
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: for how much how many injuries they've had. Najie Harris,

683
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: They've had injuries on the offensive line, and here they are,

684
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: They're going to the playoffs for consecutive years. For the

685
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: first time in I think two thousand and eight, two

686
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. So for the for the charters to

687
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Speaker 2: be in this position where they are with all these injuries,

688
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Jason can speak to this, pretty impressive to have them

689
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: at eleven wins right now, Jason shocked that they have

690
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: a chance of the division. So you said.

691
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Speaker 5: Yesterday, right, it's like an outside shot at the number

692
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Speaker 5: one seed. Chances they control their destiny for the division.

693
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Speaker 5: But yeah, No, to Sam's point, Harbaugh, he's been like

694
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Speaker 5: a miracle worker since he got on campus. There's nothing

695
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Speaker 5: that he could do that will surprise me at this point,

696
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Speaker 5: and that includes cheat.

697
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: Damn well, everybody else doesn't. Chris Burfett, you want to

698
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: wrap this up with your Tuesday Morning quarterback.

699
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's one that's maybe floying under the radar

700
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: a bit. We know the Dolphins bench to a tongue

701
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: of ailoa. Before this, they trotted out Quinn yours and

702
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: it was even more of a disaster. I'm just and

703
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: I know Mike McDonald's come is like pretty much certified

704
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: to come back next year. But Mike McDaniel, excuse me,

705
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: I said Donald, But like I'm just, I'm kind of

706
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: tired of doing this with the Dolphins, where they start

707
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: losing six of their first seven, they rattle off four

708
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 3: straight and injects a little bit of life and a

709
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: little bit of hope to the that what this could

710
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Speaker 3: be again? And then it just it peters out like this.

711
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Speaker 3: This This offensive line is not good at all. Their

712
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: quarterback situation is as bad as it can get because

713
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming Tua is not coming back this year. You

714
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Speaker 3: don't make that kind of benching if you're not one

715
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Speaker 3: hundred percent done with Tua. You're not getting that performance

716
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Speaker 3: out of Quinn yours or Zach Wilson. And I don't

717
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: know who you're bringing in in the off season they

718
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: have besides Levon, they don't really have a lot that

719
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Speaker 3: stands out for their roster. It all screams it needs

720
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Speaker 3: a hard reset, and it just leads me back to

721
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Speaker 3: once again that Mike McDaniel will be back next year.

722
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Speaker 3: And it brings me to a phrase I've fallen in

723
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Speaker 3: love with, what should be done, what will be done eventually,

724
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Speaker 3: should be done immediately. And I'm not sure why this

725
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Speaker 3: team continues to kick the can down the road just

726
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Speaker 3: because they win four games in November every year.

727
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Speaker 2: Like this I had. I had an issue with what

728
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Speaker 2: the Dolphins have done. We've talked about it a bunch,

729
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: but the butt about Mike McDaniels. I like Mike McDaniel.

730
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Speaker 2: I actually I really do, and I think that they're thinking,

731
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Speaker 2: and I agree with this, is if you actually maxed

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Speaker 2: out toua to get us into the playoffs as a

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Speaker 2: wild card, then you can do something. Imagine if you

734
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Speaker 2: can get that franchise type of player working with Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 2: I think that's their hope. This is also a Dolphins

736
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Speaker 2: franchise that not so long ago was loaded with first

737
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Speaker 2: round picks. It's why they were able to maybe offer

738
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Speaker 2: the Bengals the four first round picks in the year

739
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Speaker 2: that they were gonna draft Joe Burrow in twenty twenty.

740
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Speaker 2: But they kind of wasted some of those first round picks.

741
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Speaker 2: They had one docked because of tampering with Tom Brady

742
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Speaker 2: and Sean Payton, so they've really kind of fumbled the

743
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Speaker 2: bag in Miami. And to your point about needing a reset,

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Speaker 2: I really like Mike McDaniel. I think that he should

745
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Speaker 2: stay along, but I do think to Chris's point, there's

746
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Speaker 2: more work to do, especially trying to get out from

747
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Speaker 2: under this two accounts.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be picking tenth as well this year. It's

749
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Speaker 3: kind of they're they're sliding away from those top cream

750
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Speaker 3: picks just because they keep pushing so hard near.

751
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Speaker 2: The end of the season. Well, that's what they're not

752
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: doing now, and that's why they're playing with yours is

753
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: they're trying to move up the draft.

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Speaker 4: I like Mike McDaniel's as well, but I think he's

755
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Speaker 4: an offensive coordinator in my opinion.

756
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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel right now, your coach of the year favorite, Mikerable,

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Speaker 2: I keep understanding. I mean, wait, Liam Cones plus seve

758
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Speaker 2: I did not write Liam Cohen down. Yeah, I saw it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah to two you did a good job. Shanahan and

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Speaker 2: McDonald are plus three thirty. It's one specific and that's

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Speaker 2: Tuesday Morning Quarterback.

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Speaker 6: in the afternoon on the Don Dottling Show.

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Speaker 2: Hoops versus football last night? What did you watch? You know? Percentage?

772
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Speaker 2: Percentage wise? Like? Was it eighty five percent? NFL fifteen

773
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Speaker 2: p NBA? How about flip that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but I guess danned in I since I

775
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Speaker 4: had the DVR, I did end up watching most of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, the topic the conversation after the Colts and Niners

777
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: game had nothing to do with the NFL. It had

778
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Speaker 2: to do with what happened in the NBA in San

779
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: Francisco last night, with the Warriors topping the Magic one

780
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Speaker 2: ninety seven. Yep, if you didn't know that, I just

781
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: told you. If you knew that, good on you. Because

782
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Speaker 2: nobody's talking about that game. The only thing that they're

783
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Speaker 2: saying is how does this happen in a win? And

784
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Speaker 2: the this I'm talking about is Draymond Green is at

785
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Speaker 2: it again. He and Steve Kerr end up having words

786
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Speaker 2: yeah during the huddle in the third quarter, and then

787
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Speaker 2: Draymond just leaves and then and then comes back to

788
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Speaker 2: the bench in the fourth quarter. Didn't didn't play a

789
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Speaker 2: minute after he and Kerr got into the to the spat.

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Speaker 2: This was the Warriors head coach after the game last night.

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Speaker 7: We got into it, obviously, and you know, I took

792
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Speaker 7: the time out just because I thought we lost our

793
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Speaker 7: focus there a little bit, and we had it out

794
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Speaker 7: a little bit, and you know, he made his decision

795
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Speaker 7: to go back to the locker room to cool off.

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Speaker 7: And that's all I'm going to say about it. It's everything.

797
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Speaker 7: Everything is private, and yeah, I got nothing further.

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Speaker 5: Dad, he didn't play the last twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Would you have gone back to.

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Speaker 7: No, No, he wasn't. He wasn't going back yet.

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Speaker 5: And was that a decision by him?

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Speaker 7: Well, he left, he went back to the locker room.

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Speaker 2: A decision by him. It may well have been. And

804
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: maybe there's like leeway because of what they've all gone through. Yeah,

805
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: but I don't didn't sound like Steve Kerr was saying that.

806
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: Now there are two sides to every story, Carrie, so

807
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: it's only fair. And we hear Draymond's version of the

808
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: events that occurred last night.

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Speaker 8: Draymond, what happened and why did you leave the bench?

810
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 8: Timber spilled over and I just thought it was best

811
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Speaker 8: that I got it. I don't think there was a

812
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 8: situation where it was going to get better, so it

813
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 8: was just best to remove myself. You know. That's it

814
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 8: what caused the argument. Basketball. That's what we do. We

815
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Speaker 8: played basketball. It's an emotional game. You know, people love

816
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 8: there emotion. Sometimes it happens, it is what it is.

817
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Speaker 8: You know, we've been at this now for a long time. Yeah,

818
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 8: sometimes you people for a long time. There's a level

819
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Speaker 8: of comfort and happens. We move forward.

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Speaker 5: I mean, do you feel like this will linger at all?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 2: We move forward? So there's I think that it was

823
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Speaker 2: handled as best as it could be. But this is

824
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Speaker 2: not a fifty to fifty situation. No, this is not

825
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Speaker 2: guess what Draymond Green has his say some of the time,

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Speaker 2: Steve Kerr is his state some of the say some

827
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Speaker 2: of the time. This is always about Draymond Green. Everything

828
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Speaker 2: has always been about Draymond Green, and any sort of friction,

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Speaker 2: any sort of conflict, any sort of confrontation is always

830
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: about Draymond Green. And that's why Steve Kerr should have

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Speaker 2: a freaking award considering what he's had to deal with,

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Speaker 2: putting up with Draymond's antics for the last decade plus

833
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Speaker 2: and doing it in a way where he doesn't cause

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Speaker 2: complete chaos within his organization and handles it the way

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Speaker 2: that he does. And Draymond is smart enough to know

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Speaker 2: in Draymond's explanation there that his head coach is also

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Speaker 2: not going to say anything. So Draymond's gonna say his

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Speaker 2: little piece, Kurt's gonna say his little piece and want

839
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Speaker 2: us to move on after that. But how many times

840
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Speaker 2: does this have to happen, Carrie, where Draymond Green is

841
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Speaker 2: causing ways for the Golden State Warriors and nothing is

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Speaker 2: going to come of it.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, Dan, let me preface it by

844
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Speaker 4: saying this first, I think the only I think Steve

845
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Speaker 4: Kerr is the best coach to be able to handle

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Speaker 4: this situation anyway. And I'll say that because the one

847
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Speaker 4: reason he played with somebody who was a menace and

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Speaker 4: if from the outside looking in, would make things all

849
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Speaker 4: about him as well. Even though he played hard in

850
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: between the lions and all these things and was a

851
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 4: great teammate in between the lines, you know what that

852
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 4: person is Dennis Rodman. That's Dennis Rodman, and so he

853
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 4: has he had that example. As a player, he saw

854
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Speaker 4: how Phil Jackson hendled that situation. All players aren't created equal, Dan,

855
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Speaker 4: And as much as coaches and people want to think

856
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Speaker 4: they are, some people you gotta handle with kid gloves

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Speaker 4: to get their maximum effort off. I mean on the

858
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: field and on the court and win. And that's what

859
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: that business is about, right. So he had that example,

860
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: and so I'll say from this in this time, in

861
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: this era of basketball, Draymond Green is Dennis Rodman, so

862
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: to speak, and so he can handle him in that

863
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: way and know how to handle it in the house.

864
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: But when it comes to Draymond and his antics and

865
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: it being about him, Dan, you're one hundred percent true,

866
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: like everything happens to him, not for him. And I

867
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 4: think that's the problem with a lot of guys, and

868
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: Draymon is at the top of that list when you

869
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: talk about guys that can be a problem if things

870
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: don't go asway.

871
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: I look at it. I look at Rodman a little

872
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: differently in terms of Rodman was always an instigator on

873
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: the court, but there was also the outside of Dennis Rodman,

874
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: of him going to Las Vegas, or him being on

875
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: the cover of a magazine dressed up in a in

876
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: a bride's gown or whatever they came the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, WCW,

877
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: Monday Night in trow all of those things, those are

878
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: those are outside got uh. Like Draymond Green's punching players

879
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: in practice, and that's what I think of every single

880
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: time Draymond Green pulls this. I also think Draymond Green

881
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: hits Lebron James in the groin in Game four of

882
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen NBA Finals. I think about that. I

883
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: think about the Jordan Poole punch every single time Draymond

884
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: Green is into something. And that's the like, that's the

885
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 2: issue is I think Steve Kerr would much rather deal

886
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: with Dennis Rodman. And I don't think Dennis Robin is

887
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: hanging around the NBA when his game isn't what it

888
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: was ten years ago. He's doing this out of loyalty

889
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: and out of what Draymond Green has meant to the organization.

890
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: But at some point you're being taken advantage of if

891
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: you're Steve Kerr or if you're the Golden State Warriors

892
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: in allowing this to happen. And by the way, Draymond Green,

893
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: you're right, Steve Kerr is the only one that would

894
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: put up with this. There's no other coach in the

895
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: NBA that would be able to corral what Draymond Green

896
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: is doing. And the reason of that is Draymond Green

897
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 2: thinks he knows everything about basketball, and so you would

898
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: be challenging the other coaches in the NBA and what

899
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: maybe Spolstra, you know, like it would would maybe have

900
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: the cachet, but then you don't have the personal relationship

901
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: and the time over the last decade. It's just this

902
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: is a you know, this is a Warrior's team that

903
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: again is they're a middling team that you want to

904
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: root for because of what happened in the past and

905
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: maybe have one go around. But when you're hovering around

906
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: five hundred, you're trying to figure out your place. And

907
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: now Draymond Green is leaving the bench, which again maybe

908
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: he didn't want to say something that he would you know,

909
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: would have regretted later on. Yeah, but this now just

910
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: becomes another distraction and another thing that Steve Gerrist to

911
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 2: talk about in the post game.

912
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: And the important thing you said right there is we're

913
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: hanging on to the lure of the Warriors past. This

914
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: isn't that team, And so the leeway that Draymond has

915
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: had and obviously still has at this moment, I think

916
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: it could be validated in years prior, But right now

917
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 4: this team isn't good, and Draymond Green isn't good.

918
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: He is.

919
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: He's a guy that is going to give you eight,

920
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 4: five and five right now. And is that worth a headache?

921
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: I don't think it is. Jason Stewart's the show's executive producer.

922
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: This incident like taps into one of my pet peeves

923
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: is when when athletes kind of use there an excuse

924
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 5: of throwing a fit and being immature and put it

925
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: all under the umbrella I'm just competitive and I just

926
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 5: want to win. I'm guessing you played with a lot

927
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 5: of like hus still teammates who would do things you're

928
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 5: not supposed to and then the coach would cover for

929
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 5: them like he just really wants to win, That's how.

930
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: But everybody else was being an actual mature professional, but

931
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 5: that guy, So last night I flagged this sound. This

932
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 5: was Draymond kind of explaining in a way why the

933
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 5: tempers were so heated.

934
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 9: Right Quite honestly, if everybody's okay with be in fifteen

935
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 9: and fifteen, and it's just WHOOPI dude, talking to you

936
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 9: when they're forty one and forty one.

937
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Can be whoopy doing fifteen and fifteen.

938
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 8: Some gotta get so.

939
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: So that's like it's his way of explaining away, I

940
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 5: just want to win and these guys don't. So I

941
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 5: could go off on my coach and make a fool

942
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 5: out of myself like that. There at some point, there

943
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 5: needs to come a time where that's no longer an

944
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 5: excuse for somebody like Draymond. But I don't think we've

945
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: reached that point.

946
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: People think that that Draymond got uh was lost for

947
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 2: Game five, like we forget history. Yeah, because he punched

948
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: Lebron in the you know, in the growing No, it

949
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: was a flagrant fowl, which was an accumulation of fouls

950
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: which triggered a one game suspension. Yea, So tell me

951
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: what's worse knowing that your one foul away, that you

952
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: could be suspended for a game. Knowing that, or in

953
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: a spur of the moment hitting someone in the junk right, Like,

954
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: in the spur of the moment, you're going to think,

955
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 2: guess what, I would give that more of a pass

956
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: than knowing throughout the entire game that he's sitting there

957
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: skating on thin ice. He's walking this tightrope that I

958
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 2: just can't do anything stupid. I can't do anything foolish.

959
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: So when he's talking about the team being ticked off

960
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: about being fifteen and fifteen and ending up the regular

961
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: season forty one and forty one, Yeah, you were this

962
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: close to wrapping up back to back NBA titles and

963
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: clinching the greatest NBA season we had ever seen. But

964
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: you couldn't help yourself. You couldn't help yourself in that situation.

965
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: And then Carrie, after three more rings following that series,

966
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: he's still doing the same thing. So where's the problem

967
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: the person that doesn't change or all the other players

968
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: that are around which, by the way, yeah, Draymond may

969
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: not want to be fifteen and fifteen, but maybe one

970
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: of the reasons they're fifteen and fifteen is because they've

971
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: continued to capt Draymond Green with the Golden State Warriors.

972
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 4: Great point, and they also in the whole vein of

973
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: this conversation, Jason said something with the generalization of, you know,

974
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: Draymond being able to kind of rely on that aspect

975
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: of winning to get away with some of these things.

976
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 4: I don't like the generalization that he puts out right,

977
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 4: like he's the only one that cares about winning. Yeah,

978
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: there's it may be ninety It may be two percent

979
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 4: that don't care because they're mad they're not getting whatever.

980
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: That could be some instance, there's ninety eight percent of

981
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: those guys that want to win, and just because it's

982
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: not doing the way you want it to be done

983
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 4: doesn't make you right.

984
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: You're on a team with Steph Hurry and Jimmy Butler, right, like,

985
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: this is not a bunch of youngins on your team

986
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: that you're trying to mold into two winners. He's just

987
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: being a sore loser and he's sitting there complaining about basketball, which,

988
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: by the way, he wasn't having a conversation with, you know,

989
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: Padjemski or Jonathan Kaminga or another young player on the Warriors.

990
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 2: He's having the argument with Steve Kerr, the most accomplished person. Yes, yes,

991
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: so apparently Steve Kerr, you know, settling for fifteen and

992
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: fifteen and you know Kerr keeping it in houses what

993
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: they always do. Is actually the biggest problem that I

994
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: had with the Jordan Poole deal is they cared more

995
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: that the video got out than that Draymond Green actually

996
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: punched his own teammate, Yea the way that he did,

997
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: and when we saw the video, we saw how egregious

998
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 2: it was. He just has never changed, He never learns,

999
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 2: and it's just going to be the same old, same

1000
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: old with with Draymond Green.

1001
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: I just wish I had that much equity with anything

1002
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: in life, the way that Dreymond has with the Golden

1003
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: State Warriors.