1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of Clay and. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Buck kicks off right now. We are going to dive 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: into the politics going on. First off, an update on 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House situation. There are people who 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: are thinking it's likely, but it's certainly not in the bag, 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: so to speak, that Jim Jordan will become the next 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Speaker of the House. Jim Jordan's a friend of the show. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: Clay and I both respect and like demand. And here 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: he is saying that tomorrow there's going to be a 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: vote one. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Way or another. 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: We will go to Florida tomorrow. It's not about pressure 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: and anybody. It's about we got to have a speaker. 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: You can't open the house and do the work of 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 3: the American people and help our dearest and closest friend 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: Israel if you don't have a speaker. So we get 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: the speaker, We get the house open, and we get 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: to work on the resolution and supplemental for Israel, and 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: we get back to work for the American people. And 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: that's what I'm committed to doing. And I think it's 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: going to happen tomorrow. 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: Because you had said before you want to have two 24 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: hundred seven team first. 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: Well, I do think that's that's ideal, But as one 26 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: of my colleagues sit in the room, I don't know 27 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: if there's any way to ever get that in the room. 28 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: I would love that, but I think the only way 29 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: to do this is the way the founders intended is 30 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: you have the vote tomorrow. We've said it for twelve 31 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: o'clock and I feel. 32 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Real good about it. 33 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 5: Well, you have more than one ballot. 34 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: If you don't get to two seventeen on the first, 35 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: we're gonna like to Speaker Marrow. That's that's what I 36 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: think is gonna happen. 37 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan's saying, elect think speaker tomorrow. There might be 38 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: some uh, some back and forth, perhaps some shenanigans or 39 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: posturing or whatever you want to call it, Clay, but 40 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: my sense is this ends one way or another with 41 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan as the Speaker, which would be a great 42 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: I think it's a great choice for the Republicans and 43 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: we can all move on with our lives. 44 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I. 45 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 6: Think I think we said from the moment Jim Jordan 46 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 6: announced on this show. Somebody could go back and check 47 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 6: the transcripts that we thought Jim Jordan would end up 48 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 6: being the speaker now Scalise one had to head the 49 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 6: first time, but Scalise wasn't going to be able to 50 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 6: get the votes. I think you go to the four 51 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 6: and I think what he's really saying is anybody who's 52 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 6: opposed to me needs to stand up and explain why 53 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 6: they're opposed to me, and it may take several ballots. 54 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 6: I don't know what did it take, like fifteen ballots 55 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 6: for Kevin McCarthy. 56 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: So many that I can't even remember. It was a lot. 57 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 6: I think it was around fifteen, and it may end 58 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 6: up taking fifteen ballots for Jim Jordan to be speaker. 59 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 6: But I have not seen any other candidate emerge. And 60 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 6: what I kind of hit as the oh crap, this 61 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 6: would be a disaster option. I mentioned it from the 62 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 6: moment that Kevin McCarthy was voted out, which is there 63 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 6: being some Republicans who would join up with Democrats and 64 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 6: actually elect a Democrat as Speaker of the House. 65 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen. I've said from 66 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: the beginning. I don't think that's going to happen. Because 67 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: Clay that I mean, that would be such an unmitigated disaster, 68 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: such an own goal for no apparent reason that I 69 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in Republicans' ability to mess 70 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: things up. I don't have that much faith in their 71 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: ability to mess things up in Congress. So I think 72 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna end up with the Republican. I think it'll 73 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: be Jim Jordan, and then we can move on here 74 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: because one thing that I've noticed with this is people 75 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: feel very passionately sometimes about who the speaker will be. 76 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: And when I've posed the question, Okay, so between now 77 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: and the election, one Republican versus another, like, what's going 78 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: to be that different? And the answer is not that much, 79 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: as long as you have a competent Republican in the role. 80 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: Because it's really about winning the next election. What matters 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: between now and you know, a year from now, is 82 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: getting Republicans have control of the House Senate, a bigger 83 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: majority in the House than what they have, Get control 84 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: of the Senate, and win the presidency because then you 85 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: can do things very limited, very limited. Right now, we 86 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: do not have the Senate, we do not have the presidency, 87 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: which brings me too Joe Biden Clay Joe Biden was 88 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: on Sixty Minutes yesterday and he was asked, are you 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: the guy who is supposed to be the president here 90 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: to run? 91 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Play it? Mister President, given these two wars and the 92 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: dysfunction in Congress, are you sure that you want to 93 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: run again? Yes? 94 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 5: Because I'm sure. Look when I ran, I said, the 95 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 5: world's at an inflection point. The world's changing, but we have 96 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: an opportunity to make it. 97 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: So. 98 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: Imagine if we were able to succeed in getting the 99 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: Middle East put in place where we have normalization and relations. 100 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: I think we can do that. 101 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: Imagine what happens if we fact unite all of Europe 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 5: and Putin is finally put down where he cannot cause 103 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 5: the kind of trouble he's been causing. We have enormous opportunities, 104 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: enormous opportunities to make it a better world. 105 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: Okay, Clay. 106 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: He raised or the DNC raised for Biden's reelection over 107 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: seventy million dollars over the last three months, seventy one 108 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: million for the three months ending September thirtieth. Uh I, 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, how how are you feeling right now? You 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: think you think it's him? Are you coming over? You're 111 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: coming over to the dark side here. You think Biden's 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: going to be the guy. 113 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: I think Biden wants to be the guy. 114 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 6: I think that that is clear, and that means to 115 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 6: me that doctor Jill Biden and other members of the 116 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 6: Biden family that he might consider to be good advisors. 117 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 6: And Buck, I've had this conversation with my own wife already, 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 6: partly inspired by Joe Biden. If you ever see me 119 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 6: start to have mental deterioration in my ability to do 120 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 6: a job, I'm going to trust you to be honest 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 6: with me. What I think doctor Joe Biden is justifying 122 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 6: in her mind is that Trump is such an existential 123 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 6: threat that even if her husband is not able to 124 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 6: do the job at a very high level, he's still 125 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 6: better than Trump. I think that's got to be what 126 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 6: she's thinking in her head. And if that's if she's 127 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 6: not going to be the person who says, Joe, you've 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 6: been president Declaire Victory, step away. 129 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: Here's here's the big thing. 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 6: Buck, as we sit here and it's not you know, 131 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 6: we've talked about, Hey, we're getting closer, like we're thirteen 132 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 6: months from selecting the next president of the United States, 133 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 6: less than thirteen months he had to drop out, and 134 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 6: has to drop out I think by certainly by Christmas 135 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 6: in order for there to you know, the end of 136 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 6: the year Christmas, and there's been no indications that he's 137 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 6: going to do it so far, so then the next 138 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 6: step becomes is someone or several people willing to challenge him. 139 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 6: And I believe the deadline to get on the early 140 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 6: ballots in like the New Hampshires of the world is 141 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 6: mid November at the latest, So we're basically to the 142 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 6: point where if something isn't done by Thanksgiving, it's almost 143 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 6: impossible to have a primary. People out there say, Okay, Clay, 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 6: why do you think they need to have a primary, 145 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 6: because I think the number one thing Democrats are united 146 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 6: in is they don't want Kamala, and the later he 147 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 6: drops out. 148 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: The more it has to be. 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: I have a different view on this in sofar as 150 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: they don't want Kamala to run, but I do think 151 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: that they're perfectly comfortable with Kamala taking over for Biden 152 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: right after it. Yeah, I don't right, they don't want 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: Kamala to be the nominee, but if Joe Biden were 154 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: to be able to get across the finish line, and 155 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: then Kamala Harris were to step up and take over. 156 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: They would be setting it up so that they would 157 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: have a young, new you know, young for politics, young 158 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: new Democrat who could run and be president for eight years, 159 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: who you know, in any reasonable sense, would have no 160 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 2: health or cognitive issues or anything to deal with. Who'd 161 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: be the first black female vice president. A big narrative 162 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: or that would grow. And if the advisors, the Obama 163 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: advisors that we've talked about before, who were largely in 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: charge of the bid administration, are pushing policy, I think 165 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: they're pretty comfortable with that. And on a worst case basis, 166 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: you know, they get four years of Kamala doing the 167 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: what the DNC wants, and you know they can sort 168 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: of see what they can pull off the next time around. Remember, 169 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is currently President Clay and he was considered 170 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: a shockingly weak candidate in previous elections. I remember, I 171 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: think it was two thousand and eight, two thousand and 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: nine that election cycle. I was invited. I was just 173 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: sort of curious that I just went to like some 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: some event somewhere in DC and it was like Kucinich, 175 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: Biden and some other weirdo that nobody can even remember. Yeah, 176 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: and it was because they were basically at the very 177 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: bottom of that whole tranch of candidates. 178 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Right. 179 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is this stuff can change, and 180 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: the fact that Joe Biden, you know, perception can change, 181 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: and Joe Biden getting seventy million dollars raised for him 182 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: goes to the point that I think we agree on 183 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: and have been making her along, which is the Democrat 184 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: machinery is well oiled. 185 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, They're gonna produce as much money as Nestary. 186 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: They're gonna have all the money they need to run 187 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: all the ad campaigns and all the key states. They're 188 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: gonna be running against Trump unless I mean, I get 189 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: it, it could be Haley, it could be disantists, but they're 190 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: planning to run against Trump, and you know he's gonna 191 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: he's gonna have some challenges on HND. I mean, I 192 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: want to know what the legal bills are that he's 193 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: facing right now, for example, Like these have got to 194 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: be absolutely massive. 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually think, and I could be totally wrong 196 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: on this, I actually think money is not going to 197 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 6: be very big deal in the twenty twenty four election 198 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 6: for the presidency. You mentioned earlier. I actually feel good 199 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 6: about the Republicans and the Senate. I think the Senate 200 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 6: sets up better than the House. But I think so 201 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 6: many people have made up their mind one way or 202 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: the other about Biden and also about Trump. There are 203 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 6: reports that Biden has started to spend money really early 204 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 6: buck in terms of millions of dollars in his re 205 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 6: election campaign. And it's not really moving because this is 206 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 6: the thing that I would ask everybody out there to 207 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 6: think about, other than not Trump and maybe abortion, neither 208 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: of which Biden really is impacted by. What do you 209 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 6: point to and say, four years of Biden you're better off. 210 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: And there's a big article today in the New York 211 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 6: Times with our friend Carrie Lake saying that she's now 212 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 6: announced for her Senate campaign and her politics on abortion. 213 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 6: And this is now happening in Pennsylvania, all the toss 214 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 6: up states. Everybody running statewide is saying, yeah, there shouldn't 215 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 6: be a federal role for abortion decisions in these toss 216 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 6: up states and Michigan. The Senate candidates in Michigan, Arizona, 217 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 6: and Pennsylvania, all three of whom look pretty solid, are 218 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 6: all saying, yeah, let's leave that to individual state decisions. 219 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 6: We're not going to do anything federal And if Republicans, 220 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 6: if Trump says the same thing, which I think he is, is. 221 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think that's the right position on this politically, Okay, 222 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: let's we're talking politics not ethics right now. And I 223 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: think also from a legal perspective, I mean, we wanted 224 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: Roe overturned because Roe was bad law, because there's no 225 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: basis for the federal government to be regulating abortion. Basically 226 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: that that was the you know, that was the fundamental 227 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: push for decades, and sure enough we got where we 228 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: wanted to be. And now it has been left up 229 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: to the states. Now, as we know, the problem thanks 230 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court case Wicker v. Philburn, is that 231 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: even commerce that's only in the state, they'll say effects 232 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: external commerce, et cetera. But it is still a principled position, 233 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: I think, or a legally consistent, maybe better way to 234 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: put it, position that this is an issue left to 235 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 2: individual states to decide and that is the way that 236 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: it shall go. I do think Clay, you know you're 237 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: talking about you know, Kerry Lake, and we're already looking 238 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: at some of these these battleground states. The economy, I know, 239 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: that you know, Democrat are talking about. They're not going 240 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: to use the term Bidenomics not much anymore. 241 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: You're seeing because they. 242 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: Realize you are seeing people are feeling real pressure and 243 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: real pain economically because of what has happened, which is 244 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: everything has gotten more expensive, and as everything has gotten 245 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: more expensive, people are running up debts. Money is more 246 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: expensive to borrow, so your debt is now more expensive. 247 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: So if you're running up a debt, whether it's for 248 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: a house or a credit card or anything else, you're 249 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: paying more for that money, and your money is going 250 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: less far because of inflation. So you are seeing record 251 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: defaults on credit cards for example, you know, having to 252 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: go to collections and everything else, you know, ruining people's credit. 253 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: You're obviously seeing home prices and the cost of maintaining 254 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: a home far above what they were just a few 255 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: years ago. People are feeling the pain economically and that 256 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: that could have. It's one thing to say inflation's high clay. 257 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: It's another thing when you have collection agencies calling you 258 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: because you can't afford growth season gas and. 259 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 6: You can't afford to move. Because even if you're lucky 260 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: enough to have gotten those two and a half and 261 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 6: three percent mortgage rates. You can't buy a new home now, 262 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 6: you can't move, you had kids, you want to get 263 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: into a better school district. 264 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: You're locked and loaded just based off those interest rates. 265 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: I spoke at an event on Friday night, folks, to 266 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: an auditorium full of great people, many of them are 267 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: veterans who defended our country. One of the many remarkable 268 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: things I witnessed that evening was the entire crowd on 269 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: their feet not only for our national anthem, but also 270 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: for our pledge of Allegiance. 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Then Buck and I were having a 294 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 6: conversation off the air, I just other than Trump is 295 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 6: an evil Nazi, horrible human, which certainly is going to 296 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 6: be a big part of Biden's campaign, and abortion, which 297 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 6: I actually think Trump is going to handle better than 298 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 6: a lot of Republicans have. When we were talking about 299 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: Kerry Lake, we're talking about McCormick and Pennsylvania. I think 300 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 6: it's Rogers in Michigan who are the presumptive nominees in 301 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 6: those states. I think they're all handling it pretty well. 302 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 6: I just I don't know what Biden can point to 303 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 6: buck and say to the average American out there, Hey, 304 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 6: what's better for you now than it was when Trump 305 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 6: left in twenty twenty even COVID, like for most people, 306 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 6: I think COVID was over by early twenty twenty one. 307 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 6: And I don't think they're giving Biden much credit for it. 308 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 6: I mean, as we know it's early. Still, I think 309 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 6: the Democrats are holding back on their narrative. I mean, 310 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 6: here's we have Janet Yellen, for example. 311 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: Saying that Biden is great, he's vibrant, he's fantastic. 312 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: Because I know you'll be back in president Biden a 313 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: loading fit. Does he still have the energy for another 314 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: five years the film? 315 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 7: Absolutely, He's very involved, very vibrant, is doing an excellent job. 316 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,479 Speaker 7: And I think when we say the kinds of troubles 317 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 7: that we have in the Middle East, you can see 318 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 7: the benefit of deep experience and understanding of globally. 319 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: Can I also just jump in here to say Jennet 320 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Yellen's too old, okay for what she's doing. 321 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Really, she's almost seem particularly sharp to me. She's almost eighty. 322 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: So you've got the gerontocracy here supporting the gerontocracy. But 323 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: beyond that, it is impossible that the part of the 324 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: Bond administration that well, the borders the worst it's ever been, 325 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: they have no defense for it, and that Republicans need 326 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: to absolutely pound this issue next year, and it's important, 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: it's not they're not making it much ado about nothing. 328 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: And then on the economy, Clay, unless you are rich 329 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: or you know, well off whatever, things have gotten a 330 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: lot tougher for you under Biden, no doubt. 331 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 6: And crime and crime, I mean, all of the objective data, 332 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 6: not to mention war in Europe and war in the 333 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 6: Middle East, every bit of objective data shows that Joe 334 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: Biden is frankly the worst president of any of our lives. 335 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 6: So I just sit back and say, Okay, if I'm 336 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 6: Biden and I'm trying to get myself reelected, what is 337 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 6: the argument that he can make. All he can say 338 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 6: is Trump's bad, Orange Man bad, He's a Nazi, which 339 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: he's gonna run hard and which Democrats will all try 340 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 6: to play, and then abortion. I don't really see anything else, 341 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 6: honestly that he can point to, and I just don't 342 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 6: feel buck like against Trump that's going to be enough 343 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 6: to get him across the finish line. And I think, frankly, 344 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 6: if it were Nicki, Haley DeSantis for ak Ramaswami. 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You have a piece 379 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal, along with Mike Gallagher, repeal 380 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy four budget law that fuels the shutdown cycle. 381 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, Senator, you know, Clay and I 382 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: are in the politics business, but we're also in the 383 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: entertainment and information business, obviously, and the whole all the 384 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: shutdowns coming, all the shutdowns coming. The boy has cried 385 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: Wolf too many times. People tune out, they don't care, 386 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: and the sense has become they're just gonna they the 387 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: politicians are just gonna keep spending. 388 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: How do we change that? 389 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, the shutdown politics was ridiculous. The 390 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 4: few times we've shut the government down is you shut 391 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: down about ten percent since the Democrat administration. They make 392 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: it as painful as possible, so I would think reporters 393 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: getting sicker reporting on it. So let's just do away 394 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 4: with it. There's an easy. 395 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: Way of doing it. 396 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: Just have automatic continuing resolutions, which would put a off 397 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 4: a lot of pressure on the appropriations process to start 398 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: going about its business a lot earlier in the year. 399 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: So we're not sitting here passing our first appropriation bill 400 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks before the end of the fiscal year, which, 401 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: by the way, so as grotesquely as dysfunctional as Washington, 402 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: DC is. People need to realize we have a very 403 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 4: well honed process for mortgaging our children's future and we're 404 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: watching it play out right now. Again, you really don't 405 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: start the appropriations process till a couple of weeks before 406 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: the end of the fiscal year. Force yourself into the 407 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: automatic cr of some type, or you know, a continuing resolution. 408 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: You always have that thing expire right for Thanksgiving or 409 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: on Christmas Eve. You put a lot of pressure. You 410 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: develop through you know, the Appropriation Committee, to a couple 411 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: of staff members, a few powerful members in Washington, the President, 412 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: the majority minority, leader of the Senate, the Speaker of 413 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: the House. They come up with a two three thousand 414 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: paid a massive on the spending bill. You pass it 415 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: in a couple of days, and you forget about it. 416 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: You move on, so you don't give any scrutiny to 417 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: do all these you know, this massive spending that's completely 418 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: out of control. So again, as a business guy, this 419 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: is an unst an alternate universe here in Washington, DC. 420 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 4: So you've got to bring some order. You have to 421 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: bring more process to this. So you start at least 422 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: breaking these bills into twelve separate bills, giving them a 423 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: couple of weeks floor time, so that you really can 424 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: start providing scrutiny to the ridiculous spending that's being proposed 425 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: and being passed year after year. 426 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 6: Talking to Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, you have a 427 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 6: business background, which is all too rare. It feels like 428 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 6: to me, you've had to make payroll. You understand how 429 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 6: business works. What do you think someone looking at the 430 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 6: United States budget and books would say, purely from a 431 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: business perspective, about the state that our country's in. 432 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 4: It's bankrupt. I mean, in two thousand and two, we 433 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: passed the two trillion dollars a year spending rumbicon two 434 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 4: trillion in two thousand and two. Seventeen years later, in 435 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, before the COVID pandemic, we spent four point 436 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 4: four trillion. So then we had this massive spending spree 437 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: during COVID, you know, the COVID relief packages. We pretty 438 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 4: well settled on a six point four trillion dollar baseline spending. 439 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 4: Now we ramped up spending by almost two trillion dollars 440 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: per year in just four years, and the Unit Party 441 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: is okay with it. I guess so no people from 442 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 4: the outside looking in understand that America is destroying itself 443 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: from within. I've said this in the past. If if 444 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: you were given the task of developing a strategy to 445 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: destroy this country, you'd be hard pressed to come a 446 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: better game plan than what President Biden and Democrats and 447 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 4: the Unit Party is implementing. You start off by Morgan 448 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: Jerried his future drive us our debt up to thirty 449 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 4: three trillion dollars with no end in sight. You withdraw 450 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: from Afghanistan, that dangerous surrender that emboldens our enemies. You 451 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 4: drive up inflation so that a dollar you help start 452 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: the Biden administration is only worth eighty five cents. You 453 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: go on a warren fossil fuel that powers our economy. 454 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: You open up our borders, fled America with illegal immigrants 455 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 4: and deadly drugs. You know, you know, this administration is 456 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: causing America to circle the drain, and our enemies and 457 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: our adversaries see it, which is why they're on the 458 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: move in Ukraine, and Hamas is on its move out 459 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 4: of Gaza, and you know that that horrific terrorist attack. 460 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: But when America is weak, the world is a more 461 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 4: dangerous place. And the by administration leftists have weak in 462 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: America and made the world a more dangerous place. 463 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: Senator Johnson, do you think that Republicans really have the 464 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: stomach to do what is necessary to turn this around? 465 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 5: Though? 466 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we've been talking about how much money is 467 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: being spent, and the debt has been a control issue 468 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: for Republicans and politics for really as long as I've 469 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: been alive. But going just back to the Tea Party 470 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: era of two thousand and ten, uh, that was the 471 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: primary issue right in the Obama administration, We're spending too 472 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: much money. On the last year of Trump, I think 473 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 2: we spent six trillion right additional and now under Biden 474 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: we spent trillions and trillions more. It just feels like 475 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: this is a problem that everybody knows exists. But I'm 476 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: not convinced that people if people want to deal with 477 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: it until they realize it means there's going to be changes, 478 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: like they're gonna have to change the retirement age, or 479 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to change the way medicarera structure with 480 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: means testing, or you know what I mean. It just 481 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: feels like we were chasing our tail with this a 482 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: lot of the time. 483 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: Well, the public does need to understand why a dollar 484 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: they held at the start of the Biden instrations only 485 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: with eighty five cents. It's a massive deaths of spending. 486 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: So the public has to be educated. They need support 487 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 4: people you know, like Jim Jordan to become speaker. And again, 488 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 4: I think with the correct leadership, with dedicated leadership up 489 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: fiscal conservatives, I think we can turn this thing around, 490 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: but we can't be led by members of the uniparts. 491 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: And so that's why I've been such a strong support 492 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: of Jim Jordan, who to me is, you know, not 493 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: a incredibly intelligent, a true fiscal conservative, but a very 494 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 4: practical individual. You know, I got here in twenty eleven 495 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: Jim was in the House. You know, together we were 496 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: working on something called Cutcap and Balance would put pressure 497 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: on leadership to eventually pass the Budget Control Act, which 498 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: actually reduced discretionator spending three years in a row. Now 499 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: con just weaseled out of it. The Unit Party figure 500 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: out how to get by sequester. But that's the kind 501 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: of leadership if you need. Again, I just hope the 502 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 4: House gets this act together. I hope House members elect 503 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 4: Jim as speaker. He's a very practical individual. He's about 504 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: achievable goals, but he's a true fiscal conservative. His instincts 505 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: are on the right side. And when I say that, 506 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 4: I mean his instincts are to stop the mortgaging of 507 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: our children's future. And he's incredibly articulate, and I think 508 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: he'd be able to explain that the American public, Unlike 509 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 4: previous speakers. 510 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 6: Senator I saw the CDC bragging that two percent of 511 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 6: the American public so far has gotten their updated COVID 512 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 6: booster shot. Now, I know you're an NFL fan, You've 513 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 6: probably seen these ridiculous Travis Kelcey commercials. No telling what 514 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 6: puvisor is spending on those things on a on a 515 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: week to week basis. But what does it tell you 516 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 6: so far that ninety eight percent of Americans are saying, yeah, 517 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 6: I think I've done enough, I'm not going to go 518 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 6: get the COVID booster. 519 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: Well, it tells you the people like you two, people 520 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: like myself, Peter McCulloch, you know, the other brave doctors 521 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: who are willing to tell the truth during the COVID pandemic. 522 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 4: And you know, layout the fact that you know there 523 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: are there are COVID vaccine injuries. They are causing death, 524 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: they are causing permit disability, and I think more and 525 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 4: more people are awaking that fact as much as it's 526 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 4: being blocked and censored by mainstream media, the COVID cartel. 527 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: You know, you see, the most Americans know somebody who's 528 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: injured by the COVID vaccine, and so they're saying, yeah, 529 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: maybe that was a good idea back there when I 530 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: was scared, you know what, was from the pandemic, as 531 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: the COVID cartel fearmongered about a pandemic that ended up 532 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 4: being you know, maybe worse than a bad flu season, 533 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: but not much worse. Okay, if you were young and healthy, 534 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: COVID was not something really to worry too much about. 535 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: Is the vulnerables the elderly people with certain co morbidity. 536 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 4: So as much as the COVID cartel has censored the truth, 537 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: I think the truth has gotten out, which is the 538 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: reason I'd imagine the uptake of these boosters are is 539 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: really pretty measly. 540 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson, appreciate you being with us, Sir, have 541 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: a great day. 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That's one of the 574 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 6: best results of the twenty twenty two election was that 575 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 6: Ron Johnson got six more years in Wisconsin. And certainly 576 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 6: we were talking earlier about Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Michigan 577 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 6: in the context of how Jewish voters might change their 578 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 6: mind or maybe reassess the status of the political parties 579 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 6: in the wake of so much support that has rained 580 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 6: down on Hamas and the Palestinian people in general, on 581 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 6: so many different college campuses. And Buck, one of the 582 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 6: stories that's out there is an and we're going to 583 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 6: talk about this maybe at the top of the next hour, 584 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 6: because I'd be curious to get a lot of our 585 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 6: listener opinions on this. There is now a major battle 586 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 6: that has opened up over Hey, all these stupid college 587 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 6: kids that are coming out in favor of Hamas, that 588 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 6: are saying all sorts of wildly crazy I think things 589 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 6: about the terror attack that happened last Saturday. What should 590 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 6: colleges do, What statements should colleges make? Those are big questions, 591 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 6: but also what should happen if you're, for instance, hiring people. 592 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 6: In other words, should these kids and I use the 593 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 6: word kids for everybody who's still in school, So I 594 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 6: understand some of you are like, these are nineteen and 595 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 6: twenty year olds. 596 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: I get it. 597 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 6: But should there be consequences for what they say? Or 598 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 6: should the principle of we don't support cancel culture apply. 599 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 6: There's a really interesting I don't this is one of 600 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 6: those times where I'm going to be in the Squishy 601 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 6: Metal book because I spent a lot of time writing 602 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 6: about this in my book as well. I don't think 603 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 6: that I don't have a definitive opinion on this. I 604 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 6: don't know where you come down. 605 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: So here's the way this, here's the way this shakes out. 606 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: The standards the left uses for speech and for what 607 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: is acceptable are based entirely on what they want and 608 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: the power to get what they want. That's it, right, 609 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: there's not a consistent standard, so we know there's no 610 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: do what they want to do. And so what you're 611 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: going to see now is people are saying, and I 612 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: think it's almost like a reasonable man standard. People are 613 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: saying it is beyond the pale for college students to 614 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: be supportive of hamas in this moment, and specifically supportive 615 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: of this mass casualty, brutal and vicious and sadistic, beyond imagination, 616 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: terrorist attack. It's beyond the pale, and I think any 617 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: reasonable moral person sees it that way. 618 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 619 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: The problem we run into, of course, is the left says, 620 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: if you won't use preferred pronouns, you are literally causing 621 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: people to commit suicide. And you're beyond the pale, you 622 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: are literally committing violence, you know. So this is why 623 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: a standard of speech on campus that is effectively you know, 624 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: there are some lines means that they're just going to 625 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: continue to draw the lines they want on the left, 626 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: as unfair and insane as they are. And this is 627 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: where you get to. So is the answer, is the 628 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: answer to cancel culture so to speak, that both sides 629 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: have to you know, you better watch out on both sides, yeah, 630 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: because otherwise what you're gonna have is just the left 631 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: cancels people and the right says canceling people is. 632 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Bad, which is what we had for years. I get it, 633 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: and I try. 634 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 6: I think it's such a tough call because, for instance, 635 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 6: from a principal perspective. 636 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: This is the question that I've asked, and. 637 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 6: I would just ask if you have left wing friends, 638 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 6: ask them to defend this. There's not going to be 639 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 6: any consequences for the speech that students are undertaking, even 640 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 6: if they're out chanting death to the Jews, even if 641 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 6: they're out saying from the River to the Sea, doesn't 642 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 6: matter what they're saying that is negative in the wake 643 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 6: of this terror attack on campus, and I just the 644 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 6: one I keep coming back to is if any college 645 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 6: kids had shown up to protest BLM in the week 646 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 6: after George Floyd got killed, every one of the college 647 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 6: kids that showed up at that protest would have been 648 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 6: expelled from school. 649 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't think. 650 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't think they would have been I think they 651 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: don't think. I think the campus would have turned on them. 652 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: I think there would have been protests that their residences. 653 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: I think the administration would have condemned them. I don't 654 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: know if they would have been expelled. I think they 655 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: would have expelled them. I mean, when was the last 656 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: time somebody was expelled from a campus for a political movement. 657 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm trying to think, like I you know, 658 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: when has this? When has this recently happened. 659 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 6: I think there were a bunch of kids, didn't They 660 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 6: didn't UVA kick a bunch of kids out who were 661 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 6: involved in the Charlottesville protest. 662 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that. 663 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe we'll put our crack staff out there to 664 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 6: uh to find this. I'm pretty confident that there have 665 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 6: been many people kicked out of school for not being 666 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 6: respectful enough of BLM or directly combating it. I do 667 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 6: think that the standards of speech, certainly we didn't see. 668 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: I know people have been fired from their jobs. Oh 669 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: that I know for sure. Yes, the BLM thing. If 670 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 2: you were on the wrong side of BLM, you were 671 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 2: a risk of termination from your employment, no, no question. 672 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: Buck. 673 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 6: In the world of sports, the announcer for the Sacramento 674 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 6: Kings basketball franchise out in NBA were number one. I 675 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 6: believe in Sacramento, Grant Napier. They fired him for saying 676 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 6: all lives matter on Twitter. He didn't even say Black 677 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 6: Lives Matter as a terrorist organization or anything like that. 678 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 6: All he said was all lives matter. He had been 679 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 6: doing that job for like twenty years. I think they 680 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 6: fired him on the spot from his twenty year job. 681 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 6: For saying all lives matter. 682 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: The left is also very good about the Democrats. The left, 683 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: they're very good about creating maximum sensitivity on an issue 684 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: at a moment in time and then trying to trying 685 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: to rack up some examples. You know, they understand that 686 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: there's a time where you can really push harder and 687 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: take more action against people, and they act very swiftly, 688 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: and they try to get you know, they get a 689 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: few people fired, they get a few people to suffer, 690 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: you know, you know what they call it, right, consequence culture. 691 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, consequence culture. 692 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 693 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 6: Well, so my perspective is, I don't think anybody should 694 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 6: get kicked out of campus for any political opinion, even 695 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 6: though it may be totally dastardly, even though it may 696 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 6: be very difficult for me personally. 697 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: I think that has I mean clay otherwise. Otherwise a 698 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 2: standard is you definitely can get kicked off a campus 699 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: for being on the wrong side of abortion or transissues 700 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: or whatever, depending on what you say. It's either protected speech, 701 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: is protected speech on campus or else. The left just 702 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: gets their way and there's no fighting back. That's how 703 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: I see it. 704 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: It's a big debate. 705 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 6: We'll get into that we'll also update you on the 706 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 6: continued quest for Jim Jordan to be Speaker of the 707 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 6: House vote coming tomorrow update, More and more people getting 708 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 6: in line. Maybe it's possible he'll have the two hundred 709 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 6: and seventeen required votes before the first vote is even tallied, 710 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 6: at least in terms of public support, so we'll continue 711 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 6: to track that down for you. And the absolute latest 712 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 6: in Israel, plus the crazy ruling that came down while 713 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 6: we were on the air from Judge Chuckkin imposing a 714 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 6: gag order on Donald Trump in his March trial in DC. 715 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 6: Julie Kelly will join us. She was there, She's been 716 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 6: covering all these cases. What does it all mean? We'll 717 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 6: break it down for you a final hour Monday edition