WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: The Devil Bat

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick. Today we're bringing you an older episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Weird House Cinema. This one originally published on July twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, and it is our feature on The

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<v Speaker 1>Devil Bat from nineteen forty, starring Bella Lagosi. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am Joe McCormick. And today on Weird House

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<v Speaker 1>Cinema we are going to be talking about the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty horror thriller The Devil Bat starring Bella Lagosi and

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<v Speaker 1>Suzanne Karen, a movie where the one sentence plot Summarie

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<v Speaker 1>not only includes the phrase giant mutant bat, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the word lotion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's right. Yeah. In this episode, we're returning once

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<v Speaker 3>more to the nineteen forties. This is only our third

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<v Speaker 3>forties picture on Weird House with and the first in

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, following nineteen forties Doctor Cyclops and nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>forty six is The Beast with Five Fingers. So I

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<v Speaker 3>am excited to return to one of our least explored

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<v Speaker 3>decades on the show, like this, the thirties and the twenties,

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<v Speaker 3>we just haven't hit as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, though, you know, some of our the sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>movies we've done from like the thirties and the forties

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<v Speaker 1>have been some of my favorites. Actually. Oh, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>in fact came to the idea of doing Devil Bat

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<v Speaker 1>this week by looking specifically for movies that are similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the Beast with Five Fingers starring Peter Lourie, which

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<v Speaker 1>I loved, and I was thinking, ooh, I want something

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<v Speaker 1>in that zone, and this is what I turned up,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's close. Beast with Five Fingers I

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<v Speaker 1>think was a little more, you know, higher budget, a

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<v Speaker 1>little more elaborate, had a little bit more class, but

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately on I think the same frequency.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it had more of a gothic flare. This one

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<v Speaker 3>is more Middle America meets mutant bats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And while I would say that the plot of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is quite formulaic, like there is a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>that's established with how each of the Bat murders takes

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<v Speaker 1>place that just sort of repeats and is the same

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<v Speaker 1>way each time. It's almost like the setup to a joke,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where it's just like there's a very formulaic

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<v Speaker 1>repetition until the inversion. It's like that, and yet at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, the script isn't actually half bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there is more kind of character and flare in

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<v Speaker 1>it than you would get for a lot of similar

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<v Speaker 1>movies from this time period. I'll also say for a

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<v Speaker 1>horror movie from nineteen forty, I found Devil Bat to

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<v Speaker 1>have a surprisingly lively pace after the first ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or so, that is the opening scene. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you felt the same way. Rob opening scene is

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<v Speaker 1>almost comically dull. It's like they thought, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>people want to see, Bela Lugosi looking through a pane

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<v Speaker 1>of glass for like three minutes straight while he microwaves

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<v Speaker 1>a bat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, there are a lot of scenes of Bello

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<v Speaker 3>Lugosi microwaving bats in this film, and you just need

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<v Speaker 3>to be on board for that. But but then again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Bela Lgosi, And if you have to ask, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to watch any actor do these scenes, it might

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<v Speaker 3>as well be Bella because at least, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he had you know, even at this point point in

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<v Speaker 3>his career, uh you know, he still had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of energy, a lot of charisma, and you see that

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<v Speaker 3>in a film like this, where he's working alongside a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of very solid professional actors of the time period.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not this is a low budget picture, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like a zero talent picture. This is not

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<v Speaker 3>the ed Woods end of the spectrum for Bello's career.

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<v Speaker 3>But even with all these other, like very perfectly perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>good and sometimes kind of great performances around him, he

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<v Speaker 3>still shines and you still see that in him.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree, Yeah, Bella Bella is the star. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no question about that. Which is it's always a good

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<v Speaker 1>move to make the villain the real star of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that choice here, and I think it works out.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, as I was saying, I think even with

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<v Speaker 1>the more mundane characters and the more mundane scenes, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty lively, Like the pace really picks up

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<v Speaker 1>once we meet the journalist character, and there's a good

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<v Speaker 1>bit of snap and personality to the dialogue.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it doesn't have the at times dull plotting pace

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<v Speaker 3>that you encounter in genre pictures from these decades. So

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<v Speaker 3>of course I had to look up this one in

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<v Speaker 3>the Psychotronic Encyclopedia film and Michael Weldon, the reviewer, the

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<v Speaker 3>author there. Look him up if you're not familiar with him.

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<v Speaker 3>If you love weird films, you'd love the work of

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Weldon. He points out that this was a Producer's

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<v Speaker 3>Releasing Corporation or PRC film, and PRC was the quote

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<v Speaker 3>cheapest studio in the business, bottom of the ranking of

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<v Speaker 3>the eleven Hollywood film companies active in the nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 3>They only lasted from like nineteen thirty nine to nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>forties seven, and The Devil Bat was their very first

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<v Speaker 3>horror film. It was also a success, so they followed

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<v Speaker 3>it up in forty six with what Welden refers to

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<v Speaker 3>as a cheat sequel, which does certainly sound like a

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<v Speaker 3>cheat because it concerns the daughter of Bela Lugosi's character,

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<v Speaker 3>while also, yeah, it's his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't recall him having one in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, so he has one now, so introducing the

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<v Speaker 3>unknown daughter and then completely exonerating his character for all

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<v Speaker 3>of his actions in the first film and blaming them

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<v Speaker 3>on a new villain. This is a picture no spoilers.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a picture where there's never any doubt that

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<v Speaker 3>Belo Lagosa is murder is plotting to murder people with

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<v Speaker 3>mutant bats and doing it, and there's scenes with internal

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<v Speaker 3>dialogue about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. In fact, I would almost say, if there were

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<v Speaker 1>any criticism I would make of the plot in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>the first one I would probably make is that the

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<v Speaker 1>good characters are trying to solve a mystery, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer to the mystery the whole time. You

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer before they even start investigating. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>no tension for the audience in resolving the mystery, except

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<v Speaker 1>like wanting to see what happens when Belly gets caught.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no ambiguity. Yes, he's sending the bats. We

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<v Speaker 1>know he's sending the bats. We watched him make the bats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, you completely derail everything about the first movie.

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<v Speaker 3>So so yeah, it's not supposed to be that great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's supposed to be more of a psychological thriller and

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<v Speaker 3>less of a horror film. And I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 3>there are any bats in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we're not talking about that don't have bats?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, but anyway, we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Devil Bat two or the bat daughter of Bat Devil.

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<v Speaker 3>I forget what it's called now. But Weldon certainly liked

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<v Speaker 3>this one. He thought this one was pretty lively, And

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, given the low budget nature of

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<v Speaker 3>the picture, I have to say, uh yeah, the pace

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<v Speaker 3>is great and the bad action looks I thought surprisingly good.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we're going to maybe disagree a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>on the special effects in this film, but I went

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<v Speaker 3>into it with very little expectations from us flapping bats.

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<v Speaker 3>I love any bad effects in a film, from bad

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<v Speaker 3>puppets to great puppets, from bad CGI to just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>mind bending CGI. I'll take any of it. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I was expecting everything to be a lot more flippity

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<v Speaker 3>and floppity, and I was pleasantly surprised that it was

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<v Speaker 3>more believable than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is better than the batpuppet in Suspiria. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a high bar.

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<v Speaker 3>The bar is love for this sort of thing. I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what will I say. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>looks great. I don't think it looks realistic, but it

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. You know they staged the scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, all right, I have an elevator pitch for

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<v Speaker 3>this one. I think it'll make sense once we get

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<v Speaker 3>into the plot, but it's breaking bad except with bats

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<v Speaker 3>in aftershave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's if Walter White, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>making methamphetamine was making bats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you have a so you do have a

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<v Speaker 3>similar plot with him, like like he was this brilliant

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<v Speaker 3>innovation who kind of got jerked around by the moneymen

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<v Speaker 3>and has a lot of personal pride and his scientific powers.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, no meth just bats and after shaft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think a great villain they always need one,

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<v Speaker 1>like characteristic sin of your seven deadlys, and in both cases,

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<v Speaker 1>the sin here is pride.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, let's go ahead and listen to at

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<v Speaker 3>least some of the trailer audio here. I think this

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<v Speaker 3>one gives you some of the snappy dialogue as well.

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<v Speaker 4>When an animal attacks a human, there's bound to be

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of noise.

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<v Speaker 1>I die of the scientist. They many things into consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>A layman my overlook.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever smelled anything like this before. Found it in Don

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<v Speaker 4>Martin's bathroom. Yes, that's the same stuff that's been on

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<v Speaker 4>every one of the Devil bats victims. All four of

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<v Speaker 4>the murdered people had this lotion on them when the

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<v Speaker 4>Devil Bat struck Late And I'm afraid all these murders

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<v Speaker 4>have affected you my Now, my plan is to sit

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<v Speaker 4>in the garden and when the killer makes one of

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<v Speaker 4>those power dives, I'm blasting.

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<v Speaker 3>All right now. At this point, you may be wondering,

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<v Speaker 3>where can I see the devil bat? This one apparently

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<v Speaker 3>entered into the public domain a while ago, which may

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<v Speaker 3>sound good at first, but this isn't necessarily a good thing, because, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it means you can easily find a film like this

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<v Speaker 3>in various streaming and physical formats. Not all of them

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be worth your time. The best source

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm aware of for the film is the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen Kinoclassics disc. You can get it on DVD or

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<v Speaker 3>Blu Ray mastered in HD from archival film Elements, and

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<v Speaker 3>that one also features audio commentary by film historian Richard

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<v Speaker 3>Harlan Smith. They had every intention of viewing it in

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<v Speaker 3>this format. They have this disc at Atlanta's own video Drome,

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<v Speaker 3>but then my week got super busy. I wasn't able

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<v Speaker 3>to make it over there and rent it, so I

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<v Speaker 3>had had to find a stream instead. I found a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty solid stream of it, but I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>rent the disc at some point. From the drone and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe dive in a little deeper, you know, little forward

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<v Speaker 3>facing research for forthcoming Bell Legosi Pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to see a higher resolution version than

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<v Speaker 1>I saw of the flat bats, the flat bats on

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<v Speaker 1>the coat hangers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, let's get into the people who made

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<v Speaker 3>this film. Starting in the director's chair as usual, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gene Yarborough, who lived nineteen hundred through nineteen seventy five,

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<v Speaker 3>American producer and director who worked his way out. This

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those crazy Hollywood stories, a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>worked his way up from being a chauffeur for like

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<v Speaker 3>a producer his too, all the way up to being

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<v Speaker 3>a director. His directorial duties began in RCO's short subjects division,

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<v Speaker 3>so doing a lot of shorts for RKO beginning back

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen thirty six, and then he went on to

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<v Speaker 3>direct his first full feature for the Poverty Row Studio

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<v Speaker 3>this is the term for like the lower budget Hollywood

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<v Speaker 3>studios Progressive Pictures in nineteen thirty eight, Who's called Rebellious Daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 3>The head of that studio would then go on to

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<v Speaker 3>found PRC, the studio behind this picture. So he did

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<v Speaker 3>this film in nineteen forty followed by I believe a

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<v Speaker 3>few different PRC films, Caught in the Act and South

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<v Speaker 3>of Panama in forty one, and The Brute Man in

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<v Speaker 3>forty six. That one starred Rondo Hatton. You know the

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<v Speaker 3>If you've ever seen a picture of him, you know

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<v Speaker 3>a very very famous character actor with an extremely unique look.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if you haven't seen a Rondo picture, you

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<v Speaker 3>may have seen The Rocketeer, which features a henchman character

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<v Speaker 3>who is modeled via special makeup effects to look like

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<v Speaker 3>a Rondeau character. Okay, yeah so. Yarborough also directed for

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<v Speaker 3>other studios during the time, and moved on to work

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<v Speaker 3>for Monogram Pictures, which became Allied Artists in fifty three,

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<v Speaker 3>and ultimately Universal Pictures, where he directed the nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 3>six Rondo film House of Horrors and some of the

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<v Speaker 3>lesser known but still quite successful Abbit and Costello movies,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as multiple episodes of TVs. The Abbot and

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<v Speaker 3>Costello Show, which ran fifty two through fifty four. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about you, Joe, but I often forget that

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<v Speaker 3>there are all these abb and Costello movies. There's something

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<v Speaker 3>like thirty seven of them, though I'm mostly familiar with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine a lot of you are only familiar with the

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<v Speaker 3>ones that have monsters in the title, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Abit and Costello meet Frankenstein or whatever. He did not

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<v Speaker 3>direct any of those. He directed these various other ones

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<v Speaker 3>that don't even necessarily mention Abbot and Costello in the title.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually never seen any of those, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>some of the core ones where they meet I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Dracula or Frankenstein. Whatever the main universal crossover ones are

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<v Speaker 1>are supposed to be pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I don't think I've ever watched

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<v Speaker 3>one myself. So Yarborough cut his teeth on quick and

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<v Speaker 3>low budget film projects. He developed a great reputation and

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<v Speaker 3>skill set for quick turnaround and this made it been

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<v Speaker 3>natural for television. So he just ended up doing more

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<v Speaker 3>and more of that, serving as a director for TV

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<v Speaker 3>until around nineteen seventy one. His last feature film was

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty seven's Hillbilly's in a Haunted House. I believe

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen a riff tracks version of this. It features

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<v Speaker 3>John Carrodine, Lon Cheney Jr. Basil Rathbone, and Merle Haggard.

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<v Speaker 1>Merle Haggard, well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is Hillbilly's in a Haunted House. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>if memory serves, it's like a Nashville country act, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>contemporary to the time, encountering creepy characters in a haunted house.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't recall it being very good, but I remember

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<v Speaker 3>there being some laughs.

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<v Speaker 1>Mama tried to make me not a hillbillyon a haunted.

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<v Speaker 3>House, but it failed. Now the screenplay here is by

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<v Speaker 3>John T. Neville, who lived eighteen eighty six through nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy American screenwriter with credits going back to nineteen twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>He worked on a lot of westerns and adventure films,

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<v Speaker 3>with some crime and sports thrown in there. There's like

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<v Speaker 3>a boxing film called The Heart Punch, I think. But however,

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<v Speaker 3>this in nineteen forty six is The Flying Serpent. Seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be. They seem to be the only horror films

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<v Speaker 3>that he worked on, and The Flying Serpent is said

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<v Speaker 3>to be very similar in plot to The Devil Bat,

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<v Speaker 3>but with some sort of giant Meso American flying serpent

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<v Speaker 3>instead of a devil Bat. And I can only assume

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<v Speaker 3>this might have been at least some small influence on

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<v Speaker 3>the much later film Cue The Winged Serpent.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, okay, you remember. Actually there is a similar plot

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<v Speaker 1>device to make a connection to another director who made

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<v Speaker 1>a name for himself by working fast and cheap, Roger

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<v Speaker 1>Corman's movie Not of This Earth, the one where the

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<v Speaker 1>guy from another planet is trying to send people back,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to steal people's Earth blood because his home planet

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<v Speaker 1>has been contaminated. But he's also got a suitcase that

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<v Speaker 1>sends out this flying bat monster. It's like an alien

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<v Speaker 1>that I guess steals people's blood.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that one. There's a really cheap kind of

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<v Speaker 3>variation on this theme too, and the phantom creeps the

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<v Speaker 3>at times exciting, at times exceedingly dull, Bella Lagosi cereal

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<v Speaker 3>for more or less this same time period, they're like

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<v Speaker 3>robot spiders or something of that effect.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple times recently that's come up. Did you say

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<v Speaker 1>there's a version of that that's like condensed that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we could watch for the show.

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<v Speaker 3>There is At some point it was cut down from

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<v Speaker 3>like what did I would I say before some way

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<v Speaker 3>too much from an extremely long serial format into a

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<v Speaker 3>condensed film format that probably makes less sense but is

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<v Speaker 3>probably less boring. Okay, all right, so that was the

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<v Speaker 3>screenwriter The original story credit goes to George Bricker eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight through nineteen fifty five. Worked from the mid

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<v Speaker 3>thirties to the mid fifties, with his most notable works

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<v Speaker 3>being a pair that pair of nineteen forty six Rondo

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<v Speaker 3>Hattan Films, nineteen forty six is She Wolf of London,

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<v Speaker 3>which was also directed by Yarborough, and nineteen fifty two's

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<v Speaker 3>macau All right, but getting into the cast, Yes, of

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<v Speaker 3>course this is a Bella Lagosi film, and we've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about Bella Lgosi at least briefly before, because we covered

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<v Speaker 3>Plan nine from outer Space, and I think out when

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<v Speaker 3>we said this cannot be the first episode where we

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<v Speaker 3>really talk about Bella, will have to come back to him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess this is the episode where we go

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<v Speaker 3>into more detail about Bella Lagosi.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because in fact, I think we recently re ran

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<v Speaker 1>Plan nine for matter Swedes, which of course made for

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<v Speaker 1>a really fun weird house episode. But yes, Bella is

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<v Speaker 1>barely in planine and he's only a couple of scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can understand why we said that. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about him now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was his last picture and certainly not his

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<v Speaker 3>best picture. This is not his best picture either, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's more fitting to talk about him here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, this is a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bell Goosie Here plays doctor Paul Carruthers. Lagosi lived

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen eighty two through nineteen fifty six. Legendary Hungarian American

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<v Speaker 3>actor and classic horror icon who's of course, best known

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<v Speaker 3>for his portrayal of Dracula in the nineteen thirty one

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<v Speaker 3>Universal horror film of the same name. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty impressive. I think that all these years after that

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<v Speaker 3>film came out, he is still like one of the

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<v Speaker 3>stars you think of when you think of Dracula, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you think of Christopher Lee. You probably think of Gary Oldman.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's one or two others in the mix, but

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<v Speaker 3>probably not like I feel like, I feel like Bela

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<v Speaker 3>Lagosi is still like somewhere in that top three for

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<v Speaker 3>most film fans, oh yeah, or horror fans in general.

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<v Speaker 3>So Lgosi started out in Hungarian theater in silent films,

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<v Speaker 3>before making his way to Germany and doing some silent

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<v Speaker 3>films there, and finally making his way to America. His

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<v Speaker 3>May he made his way up to New York became

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<v Speaker 3>very active in the theater scene there, mostly as an actor,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think he did a little directing as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have any details on that, but he also

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<v Speaker 3>did some silent films there, and it's here that he

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<v Speaker 3>landed the lead in the Broadway play Dracula in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, and then moved to la in nineteen twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it's part of a tour of Dracula, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is where he kicked off his proper Hollywood career.

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<v Speaker 3>The next year, he appeared in Todd Browning's The Thirteenth Chair.

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<v Speaker 3>Browning would of course go on to direct Bella in

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<v Speaker 3>that nineteen thirty one adaptation of the Dracula stage play,

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<v Speaker 3>and this of course led to his you know, many

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<v Speaker 3>of his best known films, especially the horror films that

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<v Speaker 3>remained such a central part of his legacy. Though we

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<v Speaker 3>have to point out that he was he was type

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<v Speaker 3>cast by all of this, and I think accounts indicate

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<v Speaker 3>that he was rather he felt limited by this, like

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<v Speaker 3>he saw himself as a more versatile actor, but he

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<v Speaker 3>was mostly relegated too horror roles and the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the scary Bella Legosi type characters that we think of

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<v Speaker 3>today and wasn't really able to break out of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have to remember too and all of this that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>as big of a film as Dracula was, as things

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<v Speaker 3>like Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein were horror and science fiction,

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<v Speaker 3>these other genres were very much considered further down the

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<v Speaker 3>studio pecking order, but anyway had a number of notable films,

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<v Speaker 3>followed thirty two's Murders in the Room Morgue, White Zombie,

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<v Speaker 3>and Island of Lost Souls thirty four as the Black Cat,

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<v Speaker 3>That's when we might come back to Mark the Vampire

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<v Speaker 3>thirty nine, Son of Frankenstein, and the serial The Phantom

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<v Speaker 3>Creeps Nineteen forty gave us The Devil Bat, followed by

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<v Speaker 3>the likes of forty two's The Ghost of Frankenstein and

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<v Speaker 3>The Corpse Vanishes, forty three's Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman forty

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<v Speaker 3>eighth Abadan Costello Meet Frankenstein. This being his last A

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<v Speaker 3>List movie and also his final portrayal of Count Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like The Devil Bat in the arc

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<v Speaker 1>of Legosi's film career is kind of positioned in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle between his early apex with Dracula, in the early

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<v Speaker 1>universal movies, and then what would happen later in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties when he would end up working with ed Wood.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the fifties were rougher, you know, including fifty two's

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<v Speaker 3>Bella Lugosi Meets of Brooklyn Gorilla that's at least one

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<v Speaker 3>of the titles, and of course that trio of Edwood films.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty three is Glenn or Glinda, fifty five's Bride of

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<v Speaker 3>the Monster, and fifty seven's Plan nine from Outer Space.

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<v Speaker 3>And during this period in particular, understand he battled physical

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<v Speaker 3>anim drug addiction, for which he saw treatment and financial problems.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is fitting though that he was apparently buried

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<v Speaker 3>in that Dracula cape. You know, he ultimately, you know,

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.840
<v Speaker 3>he wanted to escape the legacy of that character to

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<v Speaker 3>a certain extent, but he also fully embraced, like the

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<v Speaker 3>star power, the lasting legacy of what that role meant.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Devil bat is not Bela Lugosi's best performance

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. It's not in his top top tier.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would find Bella entertaining if he were sleepwalking,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I love all of his scenes, even the

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<v Speaker 1>ones where he's just like infinitely sniffing chemicals or looking

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<v Speaker 1>through the glass. You know, he's great and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the really good scenes are the dialogue scenes where

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<v Speaker 1>he's like trying to get somebody to try on the

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<v Speaker 1>lotion that makes the bats kill them. He has so

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<v Speaker 1>many hilariously overt like I am about to murder you

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<v Speaker 1>with the bat lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so yeah. The charisma and the Dallon shines.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the reasons again that Plan nine from

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<v Speaker 3>Outer Space is not generally considered her a good film

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<v Speaker 3>is that Bela Agosi's barely in it. Like if he

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<v Speaker 3>had been in it more, had he not died, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been a better picture. Would it have

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<v Speaker 3>been good, No, but it would have been a better picture.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Let's get into the supporting cast here, because

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<v Speaker 3>we have some interesting characters here as well. We have

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<v Speaker 3>Suzanne Karen playing Mary Heath. She's one of the daughters

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<v Speaker 3>of the the main family is involved in this pivotal

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<v Speaker 3>fragrance company in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the plot is sort of so like Bela Lagosi

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to wipe out these two families who run

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<v Speaker 1>this cosmetics and perfume company, and there's this long list

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<v Speaker 1>of brothers he's working down before he gets to marry

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess the whole point is the audience is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like, no, you know, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>all the brothers, but don't hurt Mary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know, classic classic structure here. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>have your your vengeful killer who either begins by killing

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 3>characters you want to see die or at least you're

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<v Speaker 3>neutral about, before working their way to the characters that

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<v Speaker 3>you're more invested in. Yeah, and this is the one

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<v Speaker 3>we're invested in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Karen Was She lived nineteen twelve through two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and four American actress and dancer who also worked in

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<v Speaker 3>the New York theater and on Broadway. In Hollywood. She

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<v Speaker 3>worked in I believe some Three Stooges shorts, as well

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<v Speaker 3>as some various uncredited roles and occasional lead roles such

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<v Speaker 3>as this. She was active on the screen from around

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<v Speaker 3>thirty three to forty four, but also made an uncredited

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<v Speaker 3>cameo in nineteen eighty four as the Cotton Club. I

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<v Speaker 3>think she's good in this. She has very captivating eyes

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<v Speaker 3>in a solid performance. Like I said, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>film that may be low budget but is filled with

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<v Speaker 3>very competent actors. Yeah, all right. The next one of

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<v Speaker 3>note ooh, this one's a real treat is the character

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<v Speaker 3>Johnny Layton. He's your hot reporter looking into all these

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<v Speaker 3>what turned out to be mutant bat murders, and for

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<v Speaker 3>a time they think prehistoric bat murders. Played by Dave O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 3>who lived nineteen twelve through nineteen sixty nine, American film actor,

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<v Speaker 3>I think at least one time director, also a screenwriter.

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<v Speaker 3>He wrote a number of screenplays as well. He's pretty prolific,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he was credited has co credit on

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<v Speaker 3>an Emmy for work on The Red Skeleton show writing comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>So this guy was very talented. He worked a lot

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<v Speaker 3>in these categories, but he's best remembered today, perhaps secondarily

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<v Speaker 3>for his role in this film, but mostly for his

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<v Speaker 3>role as a deranged dope theend in the nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 3>six film Tell Your Children, better known, I think to everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>as its re released title ref for Madness.

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<v Speaker 1>We just a powerhouse performance. He's the one who is

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively puffing the marijuana cigarette over and over as the

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<v Speaker 1>lady is playing the piano and he's screaming at her

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<v Speaker 1>to play faster. Play faster. Yes, and the narrator tells

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<v Speaker 1>us that this is what happens to the refer addict

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<v Speaker 1>that he ends up with, is they call him like

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<v Speaker 1>inescapable madness or something.

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<v Speaker 3>A notorious film, a piece of anti marijuana propaganda that

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<v Speaker 3>would later on to become like a cult classic because

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<v Speaker 3>it is so ridiculously over the top and an ultimately

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 3>very telling of this time period and its sensibilities and

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 3>objectives in his messaging. But it's a delirious performance, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting that it ultimately outshines a lot of his

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<v Speaker 3>very successful and popular contemporary work, Like he was a

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 3>successful contemporary actor. But you know, we often end up

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 3>remembering folks for the weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, as you said in Devil Bat

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he plays our sort of Jack Rabbit wise newspaperman. He's cool,

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he's quick witted, he's a touch devious, like he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a flim flam artist in him,

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<v Speaker 1>but just enough that he's he's a bad boy, but

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<v Speaker 1>still the good guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's weird that there's a whole subplot that goes

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<v Speaker 3>on with him and his photographer attempting to fake a

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 3>bad attack or fake a bat so they can get

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 3>a photograph of it, so they don't have a They're

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 3>a little low on journalistic integrity. But there's still our heroes.

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>We're still totally rooting for them. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked on the show before about how so many

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi and horror films from before roughly the sixties

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<v Speaker 1>have very boring male leads. I mean, some after the

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>sixties do too, but especially like in the fifties, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the dead zone for protagonists in this Male protagonists

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>in these genres the kind of low deaf rectangles who

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<v Speaker 1>are there to just kind of look vaguely handsome and

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>punch the villain, rescue the female lead, but don't really

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>have any interesting dialogue or sharp angles to their personality.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I found this guy refreshingly different. He's got a good

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<v Speaker 1>bit of personality. There are weird quirks about him, and

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>some of his dialogue is kind of witty. You know

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<v Speaker 1>who he actually reminded me of was the male lead

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<v Speaker 1>in Doctor X from nineteen thirty two, that the pre

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>code horror film with synthetic flesh. That character was also

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<v Speaker 1>a wise cracking newspaper reporter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good, I mean, I guess that ultimately, like the

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.479
<v Speaker 3>news paper reporter, just in the long term, as a

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 3>fictional archetype, you know, kind of removed from the reality

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 3>of actual journalism. It is often a space where we

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<v Speaker 3>play with more rogue individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>They are in this gray space between like pure authority

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 3>figures and of course the criminal elemental forces of chaos

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 3>and so forth. And so there is often a lot

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 3>of room there for it to be wacky, weird or

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 3>even just completely chaotic, you know. And it's like, yeah,

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 3>fear and loathing in Las Vegas, you know, getting into

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 3>gonzo journalism and all. So even in this time period

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 3>where there's a lot that's you know, getting more and

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 3>more straight laced and buckled down, this is so much

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 3>better than just your square jawed, you know, steak eating

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 3>policeman type character you would get in various other pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and though I don't want to oversell the weirdness

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>of this character. He's not super I mean, he's not

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Thompson, but he is kind of a fox. He's

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like he's kind of wily and funny and

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>not just there to be your you know, lawful, good

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>slab of meat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Ultimately, I thought it held his own in

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 3>his big one on one scene with Bella at the

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 3>end of the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agreed, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Supporting character in this is Yolanda Donlin, who plays the

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>character Maxine, who is a French maid. She lived in

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty through twenty fourteen American born British based actress

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 3>who mostly worked in the UK. This is not the

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>only film where she plays a french Maid, but her

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 3>career on the British stage seems to have been far

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 3>more substantial. So she worked with the likes of Laurence

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Olivier and her last film was nineteen seventy six is

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Seven Nights in Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a ray of sunshine here. I loved Maxine

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>The main perfume boss is this guy, Henry Morton, and

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 3>he is played by Guy Usher, who lived eighteen eighty

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 3>three through nineteen forty four. Prolific character actor of the

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>thirties and forties. His films include The Case of the

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Black Cat from thirty six, Buck Rogers from thirty nine,

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 3>and The Spanish Kate Mystery from nineteen thirty five. I

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 3>thought he's pretty solid in this.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he is business man.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he has a kind of there's a very funny

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 3>but at times a very awkwardly written scene with him

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.239
<v Speaker 3>in Bell Lagosi's character where bell We'll get to it,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 3>but what is.

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>It one of the many scenes where Bella is trying

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to convince somebody to put lotion on.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and also like Bell Lagosi like eventually just out

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 3>of pride, like all but admitting to the previous murders

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 3>in the film, and Henry Morton's just kind of like,

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>what is this guy talking about? And then finally Don's

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 3>on him. Oh he killed all these people? Yeah?

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh wait next, are we going to get to

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the newspaper editor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the character is Joe McGuinty. The actor is Arthur Q.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Brian who of eighteen ninety nine through nineteen fifty nine

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>American actor and radio personality who he had many other credits,

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>but he served as the voice of the Looney Tunes

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 3>character Elmer Fudd from nineteen forty through nineteen fifty nine. Yeah,

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 3>he was not the originator, and there were others who

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>did that voice during this time, but he was an

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>official Elmer Fudd voice actor.

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<v Speaker 1>That totally fits. I did not make that connection.

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's not. It feels like the least

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 3>shocking thing in the world when you see him in

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>the film, because he looks like Elmer Fudd. It's like

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 3>he has a very Elmer Fudd look. He's just not

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 3>wearing the hunting cap.

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But he's also so I mean, it's early in the

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>existence of this cliche. So I guess he's one of

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the examples that is being copied in later films and

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>TV shows. But he is the classic like police chief

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>or newspaper editor who's barking at our rogue main character

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>about how you're a loose cannon. He's mcgarnigle's boss on

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the Simpsons. He's like, well, mccarnicle, you know, Billy is dead.

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there are a lot of fun scenes with this character.

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 3>All right, And I'm gonna mention the musical director here.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 3>This is you know, films of this nature from this

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>time period, they're often using like stock music, and ultimately,

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I couldn't tell. I didn't do deep

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 3>enough research to find out exactly how much this guy

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 3>worked on the music, how much of it his stock

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 3>and so forth, But he was very prolific. So I'm

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 3>just gonna mention him briefly anyway, It's David Chudnow, who

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 3>lived nineteen oh nine through two thousand and two, Russian

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 3>born composer and musical director who worked as music supervisor

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>or musical director on one hundred and sixty four credits

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 3>between thirty eight and fifty six. His composer credits include

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty two Is the Mad Monster and then later

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Russ Meyer's nineteen sixty one film Erotica, and he went

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 3>on to produce a number of projects in the sixties

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>and seventies, mostly the films that were directed by his

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 3>son byronshud Now born nineteen twenty six, including a trilogy

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 3>of G rated intelligent Doberman pictures. I've mentioned these on

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the show before. They are The Doberman Gang seventy two,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 3>The Daring Doberman's from seventy three, and The Amazing Doberman's

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>from seventy six. William Goldstein of Doctor Fib's fame was

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 3>one of the writers on that last picture.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>These are Doberman. You're not talking about people named Doberman.

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>These are Doberman's the dogs.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 3>These are straight up dogs. I think solving crimes and stuff. Again,

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 3>not a horror movie or anything. It's like apparently g

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 3>rated fun, but it was like a whole franchise that

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this largely forgot beautiful.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't want to be mean, but I do

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>not Nothing about the music in this movie really struck me.

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of forgettable.

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 3>It does everything expect a film from this time period do,

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 3>and nothing more. All right, well, shall we unleash the

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>plot in an unsuspecting audience.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's open the window and let the bats out. Okay,

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>So we begin with a text legend over like superimposed

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>over a shot of just a town that by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have an idea of where this was supposed

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to take place? Because the opening shots made me think

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>this is supposed to be in the American Southwest. Looks

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like the Southwest, But then the reporter that goes to

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>investigate is from the Chicago Register.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh, you know, they might just have a satellite

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 3>office here. So I don't know. Everything feels very solid

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Middle America, you know.

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Anyway, the text says, all Heathville loved Paul Carruthers.

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>They're kindly village doctor. No one suspected that in his

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>home laboratory on a hillside overlooking the magnificent estate of

0:32:55.640 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Martin Heath. The doctor found time to conduct certain private experiments,

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>weird terrifying experiments. Period. Okay, so then we open on

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Bela Lugosi hunched over a table covered in chemistry equipment.

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>You got beakers, flasks, gas flames, in a room with

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>fake stonework walls, and he's doing chemistry, mixing solutions, decanting

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>things into bottles, occasionally just having him a little free sample,

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>like like sniffing, you know, getting a sniff.

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, doing some mad science. Basically, you know what

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 3>he's up to. You didn't even need the crawl. Of course,

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Bello Lugosi is up to weird, terrifying experiments and you know,

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, we don't know. It's illegal, you know,

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 3>God bless him. Go ahead do your weird terrifying stuff.

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Why would he be sniffing the chemicals if there was

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong with them? So he goes into a secret passageway.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>This is accessed by way of a hidden switch in

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a bookcase, and this leads down into a dungeon. And

0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the dungeon is full of bats. It's hard to tell

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly what's going on. So Rob, I'm going to lay

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it out what I thought was going on, and you

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>tell me if it matches your impression. I think there

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>are lots of bats, but for substantial portions of the movie,

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>only one bat seems to be active at a time.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>So I believe these other bats are backup bats that

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>are in storage waiting to be activated by the microwave,

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>as you put it, the thing that he's going to

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>put this bat into in a minute.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 3>That's right. You can only cook up one mutant bat

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 3>at a time, but you've got to have a lot

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 3>of normal bats on hand to cook up if something

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>happens to that prime bat.

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the bats are dangling upside down from what

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>looked like coat hangers. There is one main bat at

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the center of the room. It's bigger than all the others,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and Legosi approaches it to say the first line of

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the film, what do you think the opening line of

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>dialogue in this movie will be? He says, ah, my friend,

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>our theory of glandular stimulation through electrical impulses was correct.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>That's a hell of an opener. And then he goes

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>on to say, a few days ago, you were as

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>small as your companion, and now look at you, and

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got to be a good thirty percent

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>bigger than the other bats. Now Here we cut to

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a close up shot of a real bat's face. We

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>will see this exact same bat close up footage so

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>many times in the movie. I don't know if it

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>was something shot for the film or if they were

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>just getting you know, nature stock footage, but it's like

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>right up in the bat's face and it's some kind

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of bat like looking around, looking like it's struggling against restraints.

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought they did a pretty good job integrating

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 3>their live animal shots and their prop shots here. Of course,

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 3>as you might expect, this is often the case. The

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 3>bat we see enclose up is clearly a fruit bat

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 3>of some sort, yes, which is of course in real life,

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 3>absolutely not interested in human flesh or anything like that.

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 3>It wants to eat mangoes or something. But they to

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 3>the untrained eye, they look more ferocious. They look kind

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 3>of like wolves, so that's what we get. But yeah,

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I thought the integration between the shots was pretty good, though.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 3>The hanger bat kind of looks like some sort of

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 3>like cured bat jerky, right.

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it looks like a bat got caught into a

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>hydraulic press and so it's just a furry pancake with

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>wings and then they left it out to dry in

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 1>the sun.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Lugosi dismounts the bat hangar and transports it

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to another room. This is a high voltage bombardment chamber

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 1>behind a steel door with thick glass viewing windows. He leaves,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>He like hangs the bat up in the room, leaves

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the room, puts on welding goggles, flips a switch. The

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>electricity starts going nuts inside the room. It's like arcing

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>from all these tesla coils and stuff, and the bat

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>is just hanging there while Lugosi watches through the glass.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think the director must have thought that people

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 1>would just really get a kick out of the glandular

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>stimulation scene because it goes on for some time. It's

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like zap zap zaps app for a while. Then Legosi

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 1>goes inside the room to make some adjustments, then goes

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>back outside and starts zapping it again, and we just

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>get to watch.

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, I guess it's worth pointing out that, like,

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 3>what the full run time of this picture is sixty

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 3>eight minutes. Yeah, so maybe we do have a certain

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>amount of padding going on here.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But as the electrical stimulation continues, the bat begins

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to flex its wings. So it's I guess it's coming

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to life, coming out of cold storage now. Once the

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>stimulation is over, Legosi checks the bat for a heartbeat.

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>He goes in with like a stethoscope, and he's checking

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it out, and he seems very very pleased with himself.

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>But he is interrupted by a phone call. It's a

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.720
<v Speaker 1>call from his bosses that they are the business partners

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Henry Morton and Martin Heath Heath of this heath Ville Heath,

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the Heath Company, and Henry Morton is his partner, and

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>they are inviting doctor Caruthers to a family get together

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>at the Heath residence that night. And then Carrothers says

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he appreciates the invitation quote, but I am very busy

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>working on a formula for a new shaving lotion. And

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>then Heath replies, oh, you know, but Doc, this is

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.720
<v Speaker 1>my daughter's idea. And this is referring to Heath's adult

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:19.720
<v Speaker 1>daughter Mary. They say, you know, Henry Morton's son Don

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to propose to her tonight, and apparently she

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>will be very upset if Bella Lagosi isn't there for that.

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So they hang up the phone, and then Henry Morton

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>says he's going to be surprised when he finds the

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>special occasion is to present him with this bonus check.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>He says this while holding the check in his hand,

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and then Heath takes the check and stares at it

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and says, almost wistfully, five thousand dollars. I don't know,

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's not coming across in the way I'm describing,

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>but there are so many, like out loud references to

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>this five thousand dollars check. It got very funny to me.

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, five thousand snaggers. Yeah, this is a lot of money.

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, whatever the amount is, it's just all these people

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>gathered around being like, wow, this is the dollar amount

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of the check. Anyway, Before Carothers goes to the party,

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>we see him explaining his giant bat scheme to the

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>giant bat. He dips a cotton ball in the new

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>shaving lotion he's making and he holds it up to

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the glandular stimulated bat, the glandularly stimulated bat, and the

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>bat starts screaming, and Legosi is like, good, yes, I

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>taught you to hate this fragrance while you slept. Now

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>if you smell it while you are awake, you will

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>strike to kill.

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 3>All right, all right, murderous conditioning. Okay.

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Then we go to a scene of the party at

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Morton and Heath's house. So Mary is Heath's daughter, but

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they are also just a bunch of loose suns running around.

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember whose son is whose. There's a bunch

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of them. And Morton is like, remember, Roy, Tommy, you're

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to say anything about this five thousand dollars

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>check that I hold in my hand until you get

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the signal from Heath. And then Mary, Heath and a

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Morton son named don A. They're sort of cuddling and

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>flirting on the other couch and Morton starts to give

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>them the same talk, and they have all these ideas

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>about how they should unveil the five thousand dollars check.

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But then they find out car Others is not going

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 1>to come to the party because he is busy with

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>his lotion. So Roy, one of the heath sons, offers

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to take the check up to the laboratory and here

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we get our first like put on the lotion Roy scene.

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So Roy goes up to the lab and Carrothers reacts

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>with this strange, kind of hard to read cascade of

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>emotions when he receives the five thousand dollars check. He'll

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>explain why in a minute. But then he's like, okay,

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Roy Heath, I want you to try my new aftershave.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>And so Roy takes some of it and he smells that.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>He says, ooh, pretty strong, isn't it. This establishes a pattern.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.879
<v Speaker 1>All the victims are going to say this like wow,

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 1>smells really strong. But Legosi reassures him. He says, no, no,

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>the scent evaporates a short time after you use it.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>So Roy takes a few drops in his hand, and

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>then the Legosi gleefully explains. He says, now, rub it

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.919
<v Speaker 1>on the tender part of your neck. Here. I love

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>these scenes. So he keeps like touching his throat and

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>being like, here's where you rub it. It's so soft

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>on the skin.

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he says, you want to apply lots of it to

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>the esophagus and the jugular.

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. So Roy rubs the lotion on his throat,

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>then he departs. When he leaves, he says good night, doctor,

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>and Legosi replies, goodbye Roy. He will also do this

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>in every one of the murders. Yes. Then we get

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 1>a weird voiceover of Legosi's thoughts. Is this the only

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>time in the entire movie when we hear a character's

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>thoughts out loud?

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I think so it is. Yeah, this really feels like

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 3>one of those classic moments of the director or someone

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 3>in the production saying, I don't think we got this across.

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's have some voice over here, and that's what they do.

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely feels tacked on. But what So He's standing there

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>staring at the check and we hear Legosi's voiceover say,

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>lovely check, isn't it? Doctor? They are wealthy because of you.

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>You made them rich. Doctor. It was your formula tonight.

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>They gave you five thousand dollars and wanted you to

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>come down to their house and thank them for it.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>That was your money they gave you, like a bone

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>tossed to a faithful dog. And we get some very

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>good facial expressions from Bella here. First he looks sad,

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>and then it turns into a grimace, and then it

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>turns into maniacal laughter and then straight into a furious glower.

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He is ready now to send the bats, so he

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>goes down into the secret passageway. He goes to his

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>mutant bat and he says, tonight, you have work to do,

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and the bat flies out.

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep. And I think the bat flying looks pretty good,

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 3>though there's going to be a plot element that kind

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 3>of tarnishes the effect a bit later on.

0:42:50.520 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So first we see Don and Mary out

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>in the garden on a bench. Remember they were the

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>ones who were going to get engaged. This part I

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>found incredibly perplexing. Don says, you know, while our families

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>are here, tonight is a good time to announce our engagement,

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and Mary says to him, looked on, I love you,

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I've loved you since we were kids, but not in

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that way. You're more like a brother to me. And

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, how did you get to the

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>point of thinking they were gonna be engaged?

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, he seemed exceedingly sure of this. Yeah, so

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 3>this was yeah, this is a real head scratcher, But

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 3>he takes it well.

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't get mad or anything. He's just like, oh, okay,

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>fair enough.

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like we needed more information. Why was this

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 3>miscommunication in place? Were they betrothed? Ye? What was going

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 3>on hereh idea?

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay? But yeah, Don takes it well. He's like, okay.

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Then meanwhile, nearby Mary's brother, Roy, the guy who put

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the lotion on his throat, he arrives home, gets out

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>of his car and is immediately dive bombed by at.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>And we don't see a lot of it. I mean,

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>we see the bat flying, and we see sort of

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a dark dive bomb thing, but it's not like we

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>get like a clear close up.

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Eventually, we'll probably watch Life Force for Weird House Cinema

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 3>and we'll have to compare the dive bombing bat sequences.

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I think they have some of these in Fright Night

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 3>as well, right in there, dive bombing bat scene in that.

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 1>That sounds right. Yeah. Oh, and so you know, they

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>hear him scream and Mary and Don come running and

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>they find Roy in the driveway there and they're like,

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>call doctor Carruther is no good. So you know, Carro

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>others comes to check on him, and they have both

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>families gathered around him as he's lying there in the

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>driveway and there's a dialogue exchange that goes like this,

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Carrother says there's nothing I can do, and Heath says,

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you mean he's dead. Her other says, yes, I'd better

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.439
<v Speaker 1>call the coroner. Heath says, you think it's murder? Carro

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Other says, I don't know. I never saw anything like

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>it before. The jugular vein is severed. They all look down.

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 3>It cuts to black, and this is where the news

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 3>media comes into play.

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but because everybody trusts Carruthers, I mean, of course

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>we should have.

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. They tell us this a lot. They're always like,

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 3>everybody trusts corrects, everyone loves Corrutthers, The community loves him.

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 3>We're given very little in addition to that to make

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 3>us believe this is the case, because come on, it's

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 3>bell Legosi. Uh, Like he brings that ara here. We

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 3>don't really see him doing like nice things for the community.

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 3>He just wants to do terrifying experiments in his laboratory.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's acting incredibly suspicious from the first scene.

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but all right, fair enough, nobody suspects him.

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, So it's time to meet some new characters

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>at the offices of a newspaper, The Chicago register, and

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.720
<v Speaker 1>so it shows a busy, bustling newsroom. We're two guys

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>on the floor of the newsroom throwing punches. It looked

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like it, but then it cuts away quick.

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's you know, it's a scrappy environment. They're they're

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 3>having fun, they're working hard, they're playing hard.

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And so we're going to meet a couple of characters

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>here the assignment editor McGinty, who again, he's your classic

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>large cigar chewing police chief slash newspaper editor. He's telling

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the cop or reporter, you're a loose cannon. You're off

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the force. Here's your new partner. And in fact, we

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>get all three of those in this movie.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I do like the elements too, though with

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 3>our newspaper editor here, who is like, we got to

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 3>remember the Heath Company. It's a big account, you know,

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 3>big advertising accounts for the paper. So they do interject

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of like realistic news room politics.

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Here, well kind of, but I didn't understand the dynamics,

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I thought that was interesting. They're like, Heath

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is a big advertising account, so you've got to go

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>to Heathville. You've got to get a photo photographer to

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>go with you go to Heathville and do a big

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>sensational news story about his son's unsolved mutant bat murder.

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean that part makes less sense. It

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 3>would be it would be more realistic. It's like, okay,

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 3>you're going you're going up there, but make sure you

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 3>play it really respectful. We've got to cover this. But

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 3>they're huge advertiser, so again, some things are maybe lost

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:03.919
<v Speaker 3>in the message here.

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean normally, if there's like a big industry mogul

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>who has a child with their adult child is killed

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in an unsolved murder, you want the National Inquirer up

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>there getting into it.

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well they send the A team, as we'll see.

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>That's right. So our hero here is Johnny Layden. He's

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a scrappy reporter who's always causing trouble. Somebody's always calling

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the editor to get him fired. But you know what,

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>he gets results. And McGinty explains, there's this mystery killing

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>in Heathville. It's old Martin Heath's son. He wants Layden

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>looking into it. Leydon is unfamiliar. He's like, who's Martin Heath?

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And McGinty this was also weird McGinty's like, who's Martin

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Heath say? Have you ever had a date with a girl?

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And Leyden says, you know, he might have had one

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>at some point, And McGinty says, well, did she smell sweet?

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>If so, that's because of Martin Heath Cosmetics Limited. They

0:47:55.600 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 1>make all that goo that women put on their faces.

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>The premise here that Heath is the only perfume and

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>cosmetics company in the world and invented and has exclusive

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>rights to the concept of makeup and perfume.

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I guess they're just a major player anyway.

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>So Layton goes to Heath Phil he takes along with

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.240
<v Speaker 1>him a photographer. As he was told to. This character

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.439
<v Speaker 1>has a great name, it's one Shot McGuire. One Shot

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>McGuire is a bow tie guy who keeps his suit

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>jacket buttoned. But he has a kind of he's a

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit more nerdy than Layton, but also has he's

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of got a nerdy but rascally temperament to match Layton's.

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't know from the title, I'm not

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 3>sure is he if he's supposed to be a really

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 3>good photographer or just a really sloppy photographer like, oh,

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 3>did you get pictures of the sporting event? I got

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 3>one shot? Does that mean you only needed one like

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 3>perfect shot, first take? Or you just really don't care?

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 3>He just like good enough.

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. Yeah. So if it's a writer and

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>they call you like first draft McGuire, what does that

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>mean that good?

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nailed it first draft? Well, I guess sometimes it

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 3>works like that. But one has right to be suspicious.

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>So our two reporters go to Heathville. They meet the

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>police chief there and they begin the inquest, and the

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 1>police chief admits that they have not gotten very far

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 1>with the investigation, but that Roy Heath suffered the strangest wounds.

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>He had shallow slashes in his throat, too deep for fingernails,

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>not deep enough to be a knife. And then the

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.800
<v Speaker 1>coroner says that they could have been the talons of

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a bird, a bird, but the sheriff says they know

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't a bird because they found several hairs

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the shoulder of Heath's coat, so it couldn't have

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>been a bird.

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Soide note that there's going to be a lot of

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.280
<v Speaker 3>dialogue in this film related to the idea that people

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 3>think bats are birds and need to be corrected on

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 3>the matter.

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Multiple characters have to correct I think doctor Carruthers and

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Leyton are frequently correcting people on calling bats birds.

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.879
<v Speaker 3>Ye, nobody knows exactly what a bat is, but.

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 1>They say that the hairs on the coat they're not human.

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Lab tests showed that they came from a mouse, and

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Layton says, say, a bat has hair like a mouse.

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 1>What if it was a bat and I don't know,

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I call bs. I think that is too extreme of

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 1>a bull's eye connection there, unless Layton has like undisclosed

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>psychic powers or something. Another clue though. They say there

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:23.280
<v Speaker 1>was a peculiar odor about the wounds, but the police

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>were unable to identify it, and now it has been

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>destroyed by evaporation. So we're going to go on to

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the meeting with Mary that the reporters are continuing the

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>investigation the share were the police chief is just like,

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.359
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, sure, look into it. You know, you'll get

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>no objection from me, which is kind of unusual for

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>these films. I feel like it's always a territorial squabble

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 1>about who gets to investigate. So the newspaperman go to

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the Heath residence. Of course, it's immediately clear that Leydon

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and Mary are going to fall in love, and then

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a secondary romance as well, because Mary's got the

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>french maid, the gorgeous French maid named Maxine, who's running

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>around saying, we medemoiselle and apparently she is just wild

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 1>for photojournal East And from their very first introduction one shot,

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Maguire is saying, yes, I will marry this french maid.

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>And now they've got competing theories about the murder. They ask,

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, did this guy have any enemies? Not really?

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Was it an animal attack? Carruthers says, yes, it was

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a wild animal who attacked him, but Leyden says, I

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. And this sort of leads into this

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 1>middle section of the movie that's more just sort of

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 1>investigating the murders and more murders taking place. So there

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>is a murder of another one of the sons, this

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>time it's a guy named Tommy. Legosi gives him the

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>lotion to try, and Tommy puts it on and he's like, ooh,

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that feels great, very very soothing, and Legosi says, I

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think you will ever use anything else so he's,

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, walking around with the lotion on, and he

0:51:57.360 --> 0:52:00.359
<v Speaker 1>gets attacked by a bat in the garden patio. Now

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 1>at this bad attack, the journalists witness it, they see

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it happen, and so they try to report on it.

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:08.800
<v Speaker 1>They call it McGinty. They're like, yeah, he was attacked

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>by a devil bat. McGuinty doesn't believe them at first,

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>but then he does run with their story and the

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 1>headline is mysterious devil bat kills Thomas Heath. I do

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like this movie shows us lots of newspaper headlines.

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. My one disappointment was I could make any of

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 3>the lower headlines out. You know, that's always there's always

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun there, especially in like parodies on

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 3>the Simpson like, what are the stories that didn't make

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 3>the very top because of whatever supernatural shenanigans are going on.

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I feel like multiple times we see a newspaper and

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>there's another article with the headline praise from cheerleaders, m okay,

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 1>otherwise a slow news day. Oh, and then they show

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a second paper that says who will be the devil

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Bat's next victim? Villagers cringe and terror of murderer.

0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:52:57.360 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>In another one of the articles. It has the headline

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>para please the great.

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 3>What yeah local theater.

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know Laura mipsum. So anyway, there's this

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>whole middle section where they've seen the Devil Bat. But

0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>McGinty's like, hey, I need a photo. We got to

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 1>run a photo, So they stage a hoax photo using

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a stuffed bat from a taxidermy shop. Yes.

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 3>I loved and hated this because it's just such a weird,

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 3>wacky element that suddenly like journalistic integrities out the window

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 3>and they're going to fake this shot. But then it

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 3>does feel from a filmmaking standpoint like kind of an

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 3>error because, let's face it, these bat effects, I think

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 3>they're pretty great considering the budget and the time period.

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 3>But when you also introduce a fake, fake bat into

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 3>the scenario, that fake bat looks too much like the

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 3>actual bat. Yes, and it makes me second guess the

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 3>effects on some level. So I didn't didn't like that.

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Same thought the hoax bat looks the same as the

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 1>real devil bat.

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's like if somebody wears a monster mask in

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 3>a movie that also features a monster, that monster mask

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 3>can't look too good and your actual monster effects better

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 3>be like a cut above.

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah so this Oh but also this movie

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>has a debunking scene. So the hoax photo is debunked

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>by a skeptical scientist on a national radio program, and

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 1>it shows just like everybody in the country sitting around

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 1>listening to this radio program. They introduce a scientist named

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Professor Percival Garland Rains, whom the announcer calls the world's

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>greatest authority on animals, and Rains says that devil bats

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>may have existed in the dark ages when people lived

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in caves, but not anymore, and he has proof that

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the photo is a fake. He analyzed it under a

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>magnifying glass, and he says the bat has a tag

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>on it which says made in Japan. But I was thinking,

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, what if the real devil bat is

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>simply a manufactured object, you know, created by magic?

0:54:55.640 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 3>How did they get a fake bat? You're shactured? Yeah,

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 3>either across the ocean or like, are they selling these

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:06.800
<v Speaker 3>at the local store? Did just so many questions arise

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:07.120
<v Speaker 3>from this.

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I would have thought the taxidermy bats would be a

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>more locally produced article.

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh hey, folks were back. We had to just take

0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:25.319
<v Speaker 1>a break in the middle of our recording session. But

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>now we are in real time a few hours later,

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 1>continuing our discussion of the devil bat So where did

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.280
<v Speaker 1>we leave off? It was where, Oh, they just pulled

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 1>off the hoax and they got caught. They got caught

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 1>by the radio guy.

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they attempted to do the fake photo. And

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 3>is it. Now we're in just a little bit where like,

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 3>basically it's like, I've got to fire you guys. This

0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 3>is awful, and they're like, you can't fire us because

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 3>we're onto this great case. We're going to keep working.

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 1>It, that's right. So McGinty, they're on the phone with McGuinty,

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the chief the editor, and he fires Leyton and one

0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 1>shot McGuire though I guess they did so fair enough. Yeah,

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and obviously this is not the first time he has

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 1>fired them. They even say so. They're like, you'll hire

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>us back, you always do. But the real downside they

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:12.719
<v Speaker 1>don't seem all that upset about getting fired. The real

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 1>downside is there now on the outs with their their

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>new lady friends, Mary and Maxine are not happy with

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 1>them for doing a hoax, especially since this hoax involves

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the creature that allegedly killed their brothers and family friends

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and so forth, and almost fiance.

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seems like a massiveness step, especially on that angle.

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 1>But Layton's a real go getter. He doesn't let this

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:39.720
<v Speaker 1>put him to bed. He keeps investigating, and he finds

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>out about the history of Carruthers and the Heath Company.

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:45.759
<v Speaker 1>He finds out the Caruthers missed out on getting part

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.359
<v Speaker 1>of the Heath Company fortune by just being being paid

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 1>in cash instead. And there's some notes somewhere in here

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>about like a chemist examines the Legosi lotion and finds

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>out that it has a previously unknown element in it

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that could not be identified. I love this detail. It

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>seems a bit much, but Bella explains that the otherwise

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 1>unknown element was something he found in Tibet, which the

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Lamas use in their ceremonies.

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, I don't know what those ceremonies could be.

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 3>It gets bats riled up in the scenario, but okay, fair.

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Enough anyway, So Leyton goes to confront Legosi with questions

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 1>about all this stuff that they take him some of

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the after shape to analyze, I believe, and Legosi is like, oh,

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, to the chief of police and to Leyton,

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 1>why didn't you both each take a bottle of this

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.479
<v Speaker 1>stuff home with you and use it. Now the chief

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of police he's having none of it. He says, if

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.959
<v Speaker 1>my wife ever smelled perfume on me, she'd suspect me. Sure,

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 1>so he won't take it. But Leyton he's like, yeah, sure,

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll take some. And of course he gets attacked later

0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that night while he is sitting out in the garden

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 1>with one shot. But this actually works out to their

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>benefit because Leyden pulled a revolver out of his coat pocket,

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 1>shoots the devil bat, kills the devil bat. So the

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>devil Bat wasn't I don't know all that threatening. In

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the end, it was destroyed by rather mundane means. And

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 1>then it's the biggest story on all the newspapers. The

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 1>headline is reporter kills devil bat, subhead shoots monster.

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, I wondered, did he write this story for the paper?

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 3>That seems like it would be a massive misstep as well,

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:28.919
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think he would. He would probably fight

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 3>for it. He's like, look, I killed the devil bat,

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I should get to write the article. Yes, I can

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 3>maintain my journalistic integrity. Yes, I did just try and

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 3>fake a bat photo.

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you see the article underneath shoots monster is called Americanism.

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I was trying to figure or if the Americanism is

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 3>part of the monster shooting or is this a separate

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>like article. There's a sub section somebody's like Weekly Callum

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 3>on Americanism.

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<v Speaker 1>In a classic display of Americanism, the reporter has shot

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<v Speaker 1>the devil bat. But you know now that they've actually

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<v Speaker 1>got a real dead devil bat corpse in hand, and

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<v Speaker 1>not just a taxidermid object. They can prove they were

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<v Speaker 1>right all along. So everybody has to eat crow. There's

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<v Speaker 1>another radio program with the remember the skeptic professor rains.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes back. He's like, look, I was wrong. The

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<v Speaker 1>devil bat does exist, and it is the last of

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<v Speaker 1>its kind, a giant bat from the Neolithic Age, which

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<v Speaker 1>he explains is another word for the Stone Age. Thank you, professor.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we know this is not true. We know

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<v Speaker 3>that this bat is not an ancient creature. It is

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<v Speaker 3>newly cooked up in Lagosi's microwave.

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<v Speaker 1>How but he's the foremost authority on animals.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, I mean, maybe he recognizes the process that's

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<v Speaker 3>going on, but he doesn't understand the technology involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows how much you know, professor, get out of your

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<v Speaker 1>ivory tower. You don't even know about Bella Legosi's bat microwave.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bella has to cook up another bat from the freezer,

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<v Speaker 1>which he does. He he like, gets it out and

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<v Speaker 1>he cooks it with the electricity, and then he goes

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<v Speaker 1>and checks the bat with the stethoscope and he's smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, splendid, you will be even greater than your

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate predecessor, and then the bat screams in stock footage

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, enraged, aren't you fine? I'm enraged also

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<v Speaker 1>tonight I shall call on Henry Morton and you shall

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<v Speaker 1>strike him down. So we get another scene, another one

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<v Speaker 1>of these classic scenes of Bella convincing somebody to put

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<v Speaker 1>the lotion on their skin. He goes to the offices

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<v Speaker 1>of Heath Cosmetics where he's showing everything to Morton, the

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<v Speaker 1>big boss, and he's like, you know, my lotion's so good,

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<v Speaker 1>try it out, and Morton says, no, I'll try it

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow after I shave, you know, because it's after shave.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, quote, then my skin will be more tender

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<v Speaker 1>and receptive to the lotion, and Legosi is like, eh,

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<v Speaker 1>why not try it now? See you can put it

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<v Speaker 1>right over the jugular vein, where the skin is always

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<v Speaker 1>tender and receptive to a lotion. Once again, comments about

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<v Speaker 1>is it too strong? He's like, no, no, no, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>evaporate quickly. So he sort of bullies Morton into putting

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<v Speaker 1>the lotion on his throat. Then Morton starts gloating about

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<v Speaker 1>how all of the doctor's formulas have been highly successful

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<v Speaker 1>and it was quite foolish of him to take cash

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<v Speaker 1>for his work instead of a cut of the profits.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise he would be he would be a rich man now,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not feeling that bad for Morton's just being

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he is. He absolutely is, though he does

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<v Speaker 3>seem a bit oblivious too, like so he's not I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, it's a weird mix of him being kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like accidentally jerky and still a bit maliciously jerky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're right. He's like, huh, isn't it funny?

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<v Speaker 1>You're the one that did the work, but I got

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<v Speaker 1>rich and that that's funny, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And then and he continues here as Legosi keeps

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<v Speaker 3>making even more like cutting and suggestive comments that imply

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<v Speaker 3>that he has been murdering people with bats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. So he's like, you know, you've had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun in your laboratory with your experiments,

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<v Speaker 1>dreaming up something new. You're a dreamer, Doc, Money's bad

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<v Speaker 1>for dreamers. And Legosi is just dissecting Morton's brain with

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes, and Legosi tells more tells Morton that his

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<v Speaker 1>feeble intellect cannot begin to comprehend the magnitude of his

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<v Speaker 1>scientific discoveries. Morton's like, what discovery are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says when you find out, Henry, it will

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<v Speaker 1>be too late for you anyway, good night. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>also before he leaves, he mentioned something about having already

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<v Speaker 1>proved his discovery three times. There have been three murders.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this still doesn't instantly sink in for Morton.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Morton starts thinking about that, and he's like, huh. So

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<v Speaker 1>he puts in a phone call to Martin Heath and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I think I've got a clue to solve

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<v Speaker 1>the murders. He says, if half of what I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>is true. It's the most diabolical plot then a madman

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<v Speaker 1>ever concocted. So they're both out driving on a dark

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<v Speaker 1>road and Legosi leaves first, and he's also going to

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<v Speaker 1>moreton Hates house. But Lugosi gets there before Morton and

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<v Speaker 1>he parks. He opens the trunk of his car and

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<v Speaker 1>a bat just screams and flies out of the trunk.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, of course, right right after this, Morton arrives.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bat it gets him. It devil bats him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in this case, a bunch of the guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the house like they don't I think they don't see

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<v Speaker 1>the bat, but they see Morton like he's banging on

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<v Speaker 1>the door screaming for help, and they go and open

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<v Speaker 1>the door and he just like collapses into the foyer dead. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know they're like, oh, whoop's another one. So

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<v Speaker 1>we see a newspaper headline again call and it's Devil

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<v Speaker 1>Bat's mate kills Henry Morton. Yeah, I don't know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they know it's his mate?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I feel like that that headline. The editor was

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<v Speaker 3>playing it up a little bit, like let's get a

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<v Speaker 3>love angle in here between the bats.

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<v Speaker 1>Bride of Devil Bat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was probably one of the candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and while it's showing us all the headlines this

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<v Speaker 1>time this has happened before. It's like superimposing the shots

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<v Speaker 1>of the newspaper with that footage of like close up

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<v Speaker 1>footage of a bat face. So who's the next victim

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<v Speaker 1>going to be? Well, we see a silhouette of Bella

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<v Speaker 1>Lagosi wearing a hat in the dark room with the

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<v Speaker 1>bottle of his formula and he's surreptitiously adding it to something.

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<v Speaker 1>What could it be? Well, after the scene, we get

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<v Speaker 1>a scene where Leyden Leyton is addressing Martin Heath, Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Legosi and one shot Maguire and he explains, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very glad that mister Heath invited him to come

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<v Speaker 1>live in their home until Devil Bat two is defeated,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's worried about Mary, right, you know, he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>she may be targeted next. It's logical, but Heath hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite caught on yet. He's like, why would you think that?

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<v Speaker 1>And Leydon explains, well, the other victims were members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Morton and Heath families. Therefore, he concludes that someone

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<v Speaker 1>is using the bat to wipe out these two families. Legosi,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, claims this is preposterous. He says the thought

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<v Speaker 1>of a human controlling a bat is fantastical, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a counterexample, he points out that even one shot McGuire

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<v Speaker 1>was attacked by a bat, and he's not a heather

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<v Speaker 1>A Morton, so that's a good point. But one shot

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<v Speaker 1>McGuire argues, Now, wait a second, I'm basically a member

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<v Speaker 1>of this family because I am definitely going to get

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<v Speaker 1>married to the French maid.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, yeah, that works out.

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<v Speaker 1>So they all say they're good nights, and then Lugosi

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<v Speaker 1>once again does it instance you know, Mary says good

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<v Speaker 1>night to him and he says goodbye Mary. So later

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<v Speaker 1>we see Mary getting ready for bed. She wonders if

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<v Speaker 1>Maxine has filled her perfume bottles with something new, because

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<v Speaker 1>there is a strong, smelling new fragrance in them. Maxine

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<v Speaker 1>denies it, and Mary concludes that it must have been

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<v Speaker 1>her father, who apparently secretly switcheroose her perfume every time

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<v Speaker 1>his factory produces a new one. That's a bold move. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>she's putting on perfume to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't maybe she skipped a shower, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what the rules here.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe that was the thing in the fortieth or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe people do that. I don't know what people do

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<v Speaker 1>with perfume. Do people put on perfume to go to bed?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they do?

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<v Speaker 3>After this moody though, you'll never put on perfume before

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<v Speaker 3>you go to bed again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So anyway, so Mary goes to bed and we

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<v Speaker 1>see the bat fly out and what's gonna happen. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course you know it's gonna come to her room, but

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<v Speaker 1>it actually doesn't get in. It like zooms through the night,

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<v Speaker 1>screeching until it reaches Mary's window and then it's just

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<v Speaker 1>there banging against the window and she wakes up alarmed.

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<v Speaker 1>She screams. All the dudes come running and Mary survives

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<v Speaker 1>the night. But the next morning there's an investigation what

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<v Speaker 1>could have happened, and they discover the perfume switch. So Leyden,

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<v Speaker 1>he's finally putting all the pieces together here. He thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he's figured out the case, and he comes up with

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<v Speaker 1>a plan. He's like, Okay, we're gonna lie to Carrothers

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<v Speaker 1>and make him think that Mary was injured or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>driven insane by the bat, and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>trick him into coming over to the house and then

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<v Speaker 1>stall him here for time. Meanwhile, Leyden's gonna run around

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<v Speaker 1>and do what he calls a little private bat hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>What this really means is he's going up to Carruther's

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<v Speaker 1>lab to snoop around. He does that, and he finds

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<v Speaker 1>the secret passageway and goes into the bat dungeon.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so now all is becoming revealed.

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<v Speaker 1>But the others don't do a great job at their

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<v Speaker 1>part of this plan. So like they're trying to stall

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<v Speaker 1>corre others at the house and he's trying to leave

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<v Speaker 1>if he needs to get back to his lab, and

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<v Speaker 1>one shot Maguire is like, I don't feel so good.

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<v Speaker 1>You ought to see my tongue. It looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>squirrel's tail. But Carrothers just advises him to take a

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<v Speaker 1>mercury compound. And so Carrothers goes back to the lab.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some cat and mouse there with Leyden sneaking around

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<v Speaker 1>while Carrothers is, you know, doing things, and Leyden witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>corro Others talking to his bats. So there's no going

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<v Speaker 1>back now. He knows what's up. I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to let them out for the night, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>interpreted this the same way, Rob, I think he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>the jig is up and he doesn't want the bats around.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody comes snooping.

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<v Speaker 3>Let him go, like flush the bats down the toe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And so Leyden sneaks around around the house,

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<v Speaker 1>knocks on the front door, and he asks for some

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<v Speaker 1>of the shaving lotion. He says he thinks that if

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<v Speaker 1>he douses himself in it, it might attract the killer

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<v Speaker 1>Legosi plays dumb, but you know, gives him the bottle anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and Leyden dabs some around his throat and he really

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<v Speaker 1>gets it up in there, and he explains his plan

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<v Speaker 1>is to go sit in the garden and quote, when

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<v Speaker 1>the killer bat does one of its power dives, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>blast it, which is what he did last time. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he's planning to do this again. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>hoping there are only two bats total. And so Carruthers

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<v Speaker 1>agrees to come along and watch this experiment. So they

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<v Speaker 1>have a little tense conversation in the garden at night.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a little apprehensive, or at least corrothers is. They

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<v Speaker 1>trade some comments with heavy implication that maybe they understand

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<v Speaker 1>one another's motives. And then suddenly, at one point in

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation, Leyden just like tosses a bunch of the

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<v Speaker 1>shaving low on her others and then reveals that he

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<v Speaker 1>knows the whole plot. And so at first Carruthers seems

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<v Speaker 1>weirdly kind of gloomy. He just kind of accepts his fate,

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<v Speaker 1>but then tries to make a break for it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he tries to grab and wrestle the gun from Leyden,

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<v Speaker 1>but the devil Bat appears and everybody scatters.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, And you know what's going to happen next?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the come uppance of any mad scientist that

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<v Speaker 3>creates monsters? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course foiled by his own monster. Yeah, not foiled,

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<v Speaker 1>so Corruthers, Well, first he tries to trick Mary into

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to his lab, but he doesn't make it.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets he gets devil Bat dive bombed in the

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<v Speaker 1>garden on the way there, and so then Leyden comes

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<v Speaker 1>and has to explain to Mary. I laughed out loud

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<v Speaker 1>at this part where he's like the devil Bat belonged

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<v Speaker 1>to him, Mary, He committed those murders, and then Mary

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<v Speaker 1>just lays her head on Leyden's shoulder and then it's

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Title the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're like, check on the doctor, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the doc made. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the abruptness with which these older movies end

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<v Speaker 1>is just the bad guy dies, the leading lady like

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<v Speaker 1>kisses or layser head on the shoulder of the leading man,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get title card, the end, all within

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, it's been over an hour. People need

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<v Speaker 3>to get home from the theater and or they need

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<v Speaker 3>to watch the next movie that's playing immediately after this one.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think All Things Considered is a pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>final showdown, like with the back and forth between the

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<v Speaker 3>hero and the villain in sometimes they're even more by

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<v Speaker 3>the books than this just We definitely watched some of

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<v Speaker 3>those and talked about them on Weird House Cinema, where

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<v Speaker 3>it's like bad guy gets makes a break for it

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<v Speaker 3>and is shot by the police, Monster is shot by

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<v Speaker 3>the police, Monster is killed.

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<v Speaker 1>By the military.

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<v Speaker 3>Arrives Clint Eastwood is in a jet plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Tarantula.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this one is a little more thought out

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<v Speaker 3>than that a little less by the numbers, but then

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<v Speaker 3>it does have that classic abrupt thirties and forties ending,

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<v Speaker 3>which yeah, I mean it cleans it up nicely. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just like bam, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing could destroy the monster except the power of explosives.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just so ridiculous that, granted years later, someone

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<v Speaker 3>would say, I got an idea for a sequel to

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<v Speaker 3>this picture. What if he didn't do those murders. The

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<v Speaker 3>whole movie was about him doing the murders. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>in question.

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<v Speaker 1>I've almost got to watch that now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't know. It might maybe it's fun. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I haven't seen it. But it doesn't have legosy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's called Devil Bat's Daughter, that's what it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, which is weird because she's she's not the daughter

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<v Speaker 3>of the Devil Bat, she's Corrother's daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, yeah, the poster makes it look like

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<v Speaker 1>a Western.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. It's supposedly, yeah, less of a

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<v Speaker 3>horror film. And it has Miss America from nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 3>one in it, so oh it's got that going for it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, so there you have it. Devil Bat, The

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<v Speaker 3>Devil Bat sorry, except no substitutes. Yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a surprisingly fun watch. Flick moved right along,

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<v Speaker 3>had some fun performances in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we really shouldn't stop here. We should

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<v Speaker 1>just keep going with killer bat movies and find them,

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<v Speaker 1>rank them, discuss what they have in common, the themes they address.

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<v Speaker 1>To what extent was Devil Bat really about the bats?

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<v Speaker 1>And to what extent was it really about pride and lotion?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think it essentially is about pride and lotion,

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<v Speaker 3>much like Breaking Bad. His Breaking Bad is not really

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<v Speaker 3>about the meth, it's about other things. But undeniably a

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<v Speaker 3>giant bat movie. So yeah, I'd be interesting to look

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<v Speaker 3>and see what all we have to consider in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of other giant bad films, aside from the ones we

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<v Speaker 3>already mentioned, like Life Force and possibly Friday Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what do you know? The British Film Institute website

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<v Speaker 1>has a list of ten great bat films.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh excellent, just straight up bat films, not like bad

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<v Speaker 3>human hybrids, because that's a kind of another subgenre which

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<v Speaker 3>I can think of at least one really good example there.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh, one of the examples is Abominable Doctor Fibes

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<v Speaker 1>because remember one of the guys gets attacked by bats.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's right. Yeah. I mean, if you have vampires

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<v Speaker 3>in your film, there's a very good chance you can

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<v Speaker 3>have bats. There's a good chance is going to turn

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<v Speaker 3>into a bat or bats, and uh yeah, I'm here

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<v Speaker 3>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I think that does it for this one.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll go ahead and close it out. But

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't gotten into. Right in with your suggestions, because

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<v Speaker 3>we always want to hear what kind of films you'd

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<v Speaker 3>a hit true with the Devil bat If, so let

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