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Speaker 1: an awesome weekend in Nashville. Love that place, Kid Rocks

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Speaker 1: Like yesterday's price is not today's price, especially in an

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Speaker 1: inflationary times. So yeah, I think, uh, I'm rooting for

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Speaker 1: Lamar to kick everyone's ass. Plus the hardball thing the

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Speaker 1: other day about the concussions, Like, give me a break.

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Speaker 1: How about the Niners going after Sean Payton? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean Kyle Shanahan isn't going anywhere. He just you know,

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Speaker 1: he can be frustrating. I'm gonna have some ugly games,

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Speaker 1: but he's not going anywhere. I was looking at rare

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Speaker 1: obscure rules in the NFL and discovered the one point safety.

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Speaker 1: It's basically, if the defense tackles the offensive player with

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Speaker 1: the ball in his own end zone during a two

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Speaker 1: point conversion, it's never happened. Obviously, given the end zone

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Speaker 1: is over ninety five yards away. Did you know this?

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Speaker 1: I did not. I did not know that. I I. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it does feel if you just close your eyes. Actually

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Speaker 1: it's not ninety five yards away of a two point conversion.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the two yard line? So it would be

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Speaker 1: ninety eight yards away. It feels it feels impossible you

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Speaker 1: would need I just don't see any scenario how the

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Speaker 1: offensive player would end up with a football at ninety

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Speaker 1: yards back there. He'd have to run, you know, even

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Speaker 1: if it was a high snap and landed at the twenty,

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Speaker 1: you'd have to run another eighty and even the sideline

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Speaker 1: would be screaming at you to hit the ground. So

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Speaker 1: that is an obscure rule. That's one of those rules

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Speaker 1: that's like just never gonna happen. It's like it's just

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Speaker 1: physically I think it's physically impossible. I call him speech

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Speaker 1: Staley because he's better with the media than he is

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Speaker 1: with his own team. If he ends up going nine

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Speaker 1: and eight and narrowly misses the playoffs or worse, what

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Speaker 1: are the odds he gets fired. Poor play calling and

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Speaker 1: game management with the most talented roster in the league,

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Speaker 1: and they're getting railed by the Jags on the road.

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Speaker 1: It was actually at home. But I know what you mean.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't pretend to know Dean Spano's his mindset.

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Speaker 1: He uh the dude loves being cheap and cheap people.

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Speaker 1: We've all been around him. Whether a cheap person makes

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Speaker 1: a hunter grand a year or a cheap guy has

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Speaker 1: a franchise that's worth billions of dollars, their ethos and

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Speaker 1: their mindset is the same. I uh me, personally, I

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Speaker 1: despise cheap people. I have no problem being frugal with

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Speaker 1: your money and when you don't have some, but anyone

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Speaker 1: with money who is consumed about cutting costs at the

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Speaker 1: most important parts of your business or your life, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I think you're kind of a clown. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way I think about the Chargers organization

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Speaker 1: at the top, and it kind of reflects who they

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Speaker 1: consistently hire. Why are they never in the mix for

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Speaker 1: a fifteen million dollar coach, I'll tell you because Dean

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Speaker 1: would rather save ten million dollars a year. That's money

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Speaker 1: he gets to keep. So it sounds crazy because you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're paying the players, Well, yeah, the payers. The players

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Speaker 1: are free when Roger and Jerry and Bob Kraft signed

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Speaker 1: these media right steals. If the salary cap has two

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, the media rights steals this year pays

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Speaker 1: you two eight million dollars, so it compensates all your players.

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Speaker 1: That's why every team in the NFL can pay every

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Speaker 1: player if they choose to. This is not Major League Baseball. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but I do not think I would not be confident

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Speaker 1: that anything happens with Brandon Staley, no matter how ugly

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Speaker 1: it gets. Where does Mark Davis choosing McDaniels over Hardbaugh?

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Speaker 1: Remember when there were some rumors that Jim Harbaugh was

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Speaker 1: interviewing with the Raiders, Mark Davis and the Raiders shot

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Speaker 1: those down fast. He chose McDaniels over Hardball ranked all

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Speaker 1: time stupid decisions by all accounts. Hardball wanted to go there,

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Speaker 1: heard he did, and they could have had a world

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Speaker 1: class coach. But now world class is a little strong.

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Speaker 1: But as Jim's proving again this year, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: damn good and they could have had ah, but now

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Speaker 1: they have a guy who's an obvious number two at best,

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Speaker 1: which what he's been with Al Brady. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's I think if you get a do over on that,

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Speaker 1: every team in the country, college or pro would take

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball over Josh McDaniels. I just don't. Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 1: against the Titans was pretty embarrassing. The time outs, the

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Speaker 1: game management, it was pretty ugly. I am usually in

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Speaker 1: agreement with you, but the harsh words you had for

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Speaker 1: this my Saints and Dennis Allen hit hard. I thought

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Speaker 1: you were overly critical of Dennis Allen considering that the

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Speaker 1: Raiders were a ship show when he was there, and

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Speaker 1: he provided a cultural continuity, and Pete was still there

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Speaker 1: to call place after three games. I'm in agreement. Dennis

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Speaker 1: Allen is trash, Jamis Winston is trash, and our defense

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Speaker 1: is underachieving. Considering that Dennis Allen is a defensive coach.

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Speaker 1: Collins says that when new information is available, you must pivot.

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Speaker 1: It is time to pivot to Andy Dalton. He can

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Speaker 1: be He can't be any worse than uh Andy Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 1: I never understand this with people with sports, right like,

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Speaker 1: I understand being loyal to your team and wanting your

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Speaker 1: team to be good, but when the team is bad,

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Speaker 1: I never understand someone going yeah, we're just not any

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Speaker 1: good or this is not gonna work, especially when you've

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Speaker 1: seen good like if you've been rich, you're gonna understand

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Speaker 1: when a company is going the different way, like you

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Speaker 1: don't want to be poor again. Right when you've wrote

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Speaker 1: a market going well and you've seen a crash like,

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Speaker 1: you should be able to understand when times come and

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Speaker 1: be unemotional about it. When you've seen good quarterback play

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you should know that Jamis Winston isn't good enough.

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Speaker 1: When you've seen Sean Payton, you should know that Dennis

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Speaker 1: Allen isn't good enough. It's I don't even think it's

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Speaker 1: taking the emotion out of it. It's just using what

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Speaker 1: you've seen before. Like I always everyone kept telling me

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Speaker 1: the last two years Middlecoff, you gotta buy, you gotta buy,

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Speaker 1: you gotta buy a market. The housing markets never gonna

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Speaker 1: come down. It's like pull up a history book. I'm

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Speaker 1: not being emotional about this. If if in the history

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Speaker 1: of the world housing only went up and never ever

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Speaker 1: came down, I would of had to buy. But in

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Speaker 1: the history in two thousand and two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: before that early nineties, there's been crashes over and over

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Speaker 1: and over. Now it doesn't mean the market doesn't go

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Speaker 1: back up, same with stocks, but they always come down,

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Speaker 1: whether that's after eight years, whether that's after ten years,

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Speaker 1: whether that's twenty years. It's literally a historical fact. No

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Speaker 1: difference than like when you see Bill Walsh coaching and

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Speaker 1: then you see Jim tom Seula coaching. You're able to

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Speaker 1: see the difference of good in the bad like you

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Speaker 1: have historical data. And most of my opinions are either

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Speaker 1: based on historical data, seeing what's good and seeing what's bad,

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Speaker 1: using people in the NFL tell me, yeah, this guy

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Speaker 1: is not good, or this guy is good, or you

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Speaker 1: should you're too high on this guy, you're too low

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Speaker 1: on that guy, or just using my own common sense.

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Speaker 1: And I think oftentimes with sports men struggle sometimes to

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Speaker 1: use common sense because if once you get past a

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Speaker 1: certain age, we've all seen it. Like it's like we

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Speaker 1: know like Sark, just look at Stark's resume. Stark doesn't win.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted this out on Saturday morning. Lane Kiffen is

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Speaker 1: everything the media wants Sark to be. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: Lane is a little more polarizing, yet he's never been drunk.

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Speaker 1: At a team meeting and got fired, even though he

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Speaker 1: did get fired at the tarmac, but that wasn't for

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Speaker 1: being intoxicated. Now, listen, you got alcohol issues. You've got

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Speaker 1: alcohol issues. But last time I checked, most coaches, I

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of them have alcohol issues and they're

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Speaker 1: not coming drunk to the team meeting on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: But hey, listen, I'm not I'm not gonna go over

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Speaker 1: that over and over. But Lane Kiffen now consistently wins

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Speaker 1: wherever he go. He had the best year in the

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Speaker 1: history of Old Miss last season. He is now five

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Speaker 1: and oh and just be Kentucky. They might have the

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Speaker 1: number one quarterback in the country. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: Sark would ever do to go five and oh in

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Speaker 1: the sec It's not impossible. He can't. He can't do

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Speaker 1: it in the Big twelve. I mean, if Sark ever

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Speaker 1: had a five and oh season, the media would act

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Speaker 1: like he's the next Bill Walsh, next Nick Saban. How

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Speaker 1: much impact do you think Holden's had on players in

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Speaker 1: front offices getting deals done this past offseason. I think

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Speaker 1: they help because anytime, if you're a good guy, and

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Speaker 1: most of these people are good guys, if you're t J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: If you're Deebo Samuel, if you're I'm trying to think

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Speaker 1: who else held in? Minka Fitzpatrick like people like you.

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Speaker 1: The team likes you, your teammates like you, the fans

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Speaker 1: like it. You're likable. When you're likable, you should always

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Speaker 1: lean into likability. So when you hold out and you're

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Speaker 1: not around, it's easy for things to be made up

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Speaker 1: that aren't even true. When you're are, like, there is

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Speaker 1: no narrative to be had because you can talk to

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Speaker 1: the coach, you can talk to your position coach, you

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Speaker 1: can talk to your teammates, so everyone knows everyone's on

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Speaker 1: the same page. Right. When you hold out, it takes

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Speaker 1: on a life of its own. And all these hold ins,

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Speaker 1: all these guys have been getting paid. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the Steelers signing Robinsky was more of a product of

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Speaker 1: the sudden death of Dwayne Haskins. I find it hard

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Speaker 1: to believe there's any future with Rbisky at quarterback. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest, I don't. I'd have to go look at

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Speaker 1: the timeline. I forget when Dwayne when that happened. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I just I don't know I could be possible. Uh,

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Speaker 1: because remember if I remember correctly like they were speaking

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Speaker 1: pretty highly of Dwayne in the building last year about

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Speaker 1: as maturation as a person as a player. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine Dwayne Haskins would not be as good, if not

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Speaker 1: better than than Trabisky. So yeah, I mean again, I

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Speaker 1: have to look at the timeline. But you, you're probably

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Speaker 1: Steeler fan, you probably know better than me. Appreciate everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you out of here on that Middlecoff. Mail

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Speaker 1: back at John Middlecoff. Fire in those d m s

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Speaker 1: and talk to everyone soon. Audios. The volume