WEBVTT - BA Q&A: Pay Your Taxes

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the big a qa A to b

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<v Speaker 1>a qa what you say, the b a qa no

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<v Speaker 1>man day, but the b a Q eight with Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big a Q eight with Tiffany. Hey. So Mandy's

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<v Speaker 1>off the stew hopefully she's dropping that baby as we

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<v Speaker 1>speak instead of dropping it like it's hot. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know our girl Mandy, she out here just Mandy doing

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<v Speaker 1>all the things because Mandy k never sits still. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Mandy's like and literally I don't even know, painting

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<v Speaker 1>the house or something like that because Mandy is a

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<v Speaker 1>busy body. Oh but we're gonna get Mandy the rest child.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got y'all. We have great questions today. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a money question, we have a business question. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder which I should do first? Hum, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>last time I did the money question first and the

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<v Speaker 1>business question second. We're gonna flip the script. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>the first question comes from my mentor group. So y'all

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<v Speaker 1>know that I mentor young women, especially black women and business,

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<v Speaker 1>well not young young in business. So you can be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ten, or you can be one hundred and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>But like new wish to business and I do that

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<v Speaker 1>through Patreon via my mentor Tiffany dot com. And so

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that comes up again from my

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<v Speaker 1>mentees is about about lots of my check maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>ony eleven hundred mentees. One of the things that comes

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<v Speaker 1>up over and over and over. A question that comes

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<v Speaker 1>up is, Tiffany, if I like, when I'm ready to hire,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I go about doing so? Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>I know who to hire? First? Second? Third? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I go about hiring? So come into the room, the

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<v Speaker 1>mente room. So let's talk about hiring and the mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>that I made so you don't make them, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I would suggest. So everyone's initial needs your reaction when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to hiring someone. They think that they ought

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<v Speaker 1>to hire an admin first, which kind of makes sense, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, I need help with these emails, I

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<v Speaker 1>need help navigating, you know, like some sort of honestly

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to kind of like put by your side to

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<v Speaker 1>help you pick up the pieces. Typically that's like an admin.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I did. And I would say and

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<v Speaker 1>that although having an ADMIN can be an important component

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<v Speaker 1>to like growing your business and making them more stable,

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<v Speaker 1>I push back and say, the first person you need

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<v Speaker 1>to hire is a financial person because money is the

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<v Speaker 1>life blood of your business. Literally, the blood that flows

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<v Speaker 1>through your business body is money. And if the money

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<v Speaker 1>ain't right, sis, neither are you walk with me. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. I know this firsthand because I

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<v Speaker 1>hired an admin first, and for the first two years

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<v Speaker 1>of business, I did not do my taxes because who

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<v Speaker 1>had an accountant? Not me? I had ADMIN, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was afraid. And that's not true. I had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>an accountant, but I had gotten one later on down

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<v Speaker 1>the line, and as a result, I was behind on

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<v Speaker 1>filing for taxes. And then I got afraid to mention

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<v Speaker 1>that I was behind, and it just became a mess

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<v Speaker 1>until my accountant, God bless his his soul, he's still here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Carlos hit me up because he saw me at

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<v Speaker 1>Shopwright literally took his car and blocked the entrant, blocked

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle. He said, you in my office this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Carlos, I'm scared to come because i

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done taxes since I started my business, and I'm overwhelmed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't have any receipts and I'm still using

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<v Speaker 1>my personal bank account to pay bills. I'm still using

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<v Speaker 1>my personal debit card, credit card. I'm a mess, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are too. I know you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>you a separate bank account, I say, you, says, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're still using your personal credit card, your personal

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<v Speaker 1>debit card more than you are to even if you

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<v Speaker 1>do have a bank account. I know you're still co

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<v Speaker 1>mingling funds. This is what we all do, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not right, but it's okay. And so Carlos said,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you think you? Oh, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why, but I had convinced myself I owed eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I owed thirty thousand dollars in taxes. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you even make thirty thousand? I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. That's the number ahead of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, you don't. He said, I've done

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<v Speaker 1>your taxes over the last two years and you owed

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<v Speaker 1>about eight. And I was like, oh, that's not as bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I didn't have eight, but still that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as bad. He said, it would have been about five,

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<v Speaker 1>but because of the fees and all of like, because

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't filed your taxes and you've been late and paying.

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<v Speaker 1>It went from like four points something four and a

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<v Speaker 1>half to five to eight, and that's when I realized, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that the delay in working on getting my finances together

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<v Speaker 1>was costing me money, and that money cannot be reinvested

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<v Speaker 1>back into my business the budget Neisa. So if I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to go back to young be back, then

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<v Speaker 1>I would have said, Tiffany, you need to get your

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<v Speaker 1>accountant or bookkeeper, someone in that realm first and foremost

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to get them like first second, but

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<v Speaker 1>the moment that you say to yourself, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to hire someone like ideally an accountant. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. An accountant. The good thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>you meet you can meet with them quarterly, and so

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<v Speaker 1>prices can range anywhere from I don't know, like fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars for the year to upwards of that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you can save up and say, okay, before

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<v Speaker 1>might start my business, I know, I'm going to find

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<v Speaker 1>an accountant and I'm going to you know, and making

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<v Speaker 1>my business to be able to afford that fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for the year, and or also potentially a bookkeeper.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be connestly, honestly, probably my second higher if

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<v Speaker 1>I had multiple streams of income. So if let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say I had a smaller business where maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 1>speaking business, I might not need a bookkeeper because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I'm speaking every single week where money is

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<v Speaker 1>coming in so rapidly that I need to keep track.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's just say I had a business where I

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<v Speaker 1>was selling things online and I was making you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten twenty one hundred sales a month. A bookkeeper is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a helpful person. And bookkeepers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can find a bookkeeper for around four or five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks a month, give or take, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a little bit of money. But the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>bookkeepers can be so helpful is if I would have

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<v Speaker 1>had a bookkeeper, I wouldn't have had the issue of

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<v Speaker 1>not having I didn't know what to give Carlos, my accountant,

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<v Speaker 1>because my finances were a mess. So a bookkeeper is

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<v Speaker 1>what keeps you in line day to day. The bookkeeper

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<v Speaker 1>keeper is creating a ledger of money coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>money going out. They're keeping you financially organized day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way, when it's time to file taxes, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's once a quarter, every other you know, twice a year,

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<v Speaker 1>or once a year, the bookkeeper puts it in a

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that an accountant receives it. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to upload it to like quick books, or they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to put it in an Excel spreadsheet in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that accountants navigate. Now, some accountant firms were also

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<v Speaker 1>offer bookkeeping, so you can ask about that. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was hiring, like you know, and to be

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning, because here's the thing, you could be your

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<v Speaker 1>own admin. Is it a lot of work, yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>here's how I was my own admin. So in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>like especially when I had no no no, no new money,

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<v Speaker 1>what I used to do was I remember thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is writing me, hey, Tiffany, and they're asking me

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<v Speaker 1>for personal favors. I wish there was someone else that

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<v Speaker 1>was like a middleman, so they didn't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, and so I was like, well, why do

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know who's answering this email? So I made

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<v Speaker 1>up an admin name. Her name is Michelle, and to

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<v Speaker 1>this day my admin her name is Rose for real,

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<v Speaker 1>but she still answers my emails as Michelle. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>had about five or six Michelle since I started the

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<v Speaker 1>business fifteen years ago, and so I was the first. Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>You would email me and say, hey, Tiffany girl, real

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<v Speaker 1>quick favor. You could come speaking by school and Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>would write you, hello, Tanya, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out to Tiffany. This is her admirin Michelle. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me the old time. Can you please give us

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<v Speaker 1>the time and the date and I will check with

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany to see that if it it's with her schedule. Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's me, you know. And then people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Michelle, is she available on Friday? I'll ask,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I'm not because Gary, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to work for free. So Michelle over invite back. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>on this moment, Tiffany is not available, but please check

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<v Speaker 1>back in another two months. Well she has some more availability.

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<v Speaker 1>It created the space between me and the people emailing it,

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<v Speaker 1>emailing me to ask for request, and it made me

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<v Speaker 1>look a little more professional. Well, I even got Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>her own email child, Michelle at the Budgetizza dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't no Michelle and so, but it was so helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>So I learned that I could do that for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I couldn't do was the business finances for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling you if your finances are funny, child,

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<v Speaker 1>I've made so many financial mistakes is my business because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't learn that lesson until too late. It's cost

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<v Speaker 1>me hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not almost seven

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<v Speaker 1>figures in mistakes and tax mistakes. I finally paid my

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<v Speaker 1>last tax bill, it was like two hundred fifty thousand dollars. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm telling you this from a place of girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like me. Listen to me, but don't be

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<v Speaker 1>like me. You know, if you're in business and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're considering starting a business, you know you want right

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<v Speaker 1>away to separate your business funds from your personal funds,

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<v Speaker 1>so instantly getting two separate checking accounts, two separate deborat accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, ideally look to see if you can get

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<v Speaker 1>even two separate credit cards. Sometimes that's not possible because

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<v Speaker 1>they won't issue you a credit card just yet. Although

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<v Speaker 1>there are some business secured cards where it's literally like

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<v Speaker 1>a credit card that you put a deposit down, and

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<v Speaker 1>that five hundred dollars that you put up for the

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<v Speaker 1>business that's the limit on your on your business credit cards.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's available, but separating your business and personal funds,

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<v Speaker 1>getting yourself an accountant first and foremost, and you may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not need a bookkeeper. And then as you

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<v Speaker 1>grow you might need other financial people. But that would

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<v Speaker 1>be my first hire. And you know, hiring is not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, if you don't have any additional money,

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<v Speaker 1>consider interns. Interns are a great way to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to lead, to learn how to defer, and to to

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<v Speaker 1>give instruction to you know, interns. There's a great website.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna my sister Tracey, who's

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<v Speaker 1>like also a publicist. This is great website where she

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<v Speaker 1>finds interns who they do it for class credit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna find it and we'll put it in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. But interns are a great place to start

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<v Speaker 1>to But know that interns are typically only there for

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<v Speaker 1>like a semester, so three or four months, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be living and dying off interns. But and interns

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<v Speaker 1>are a great way to find some good people that

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<v Speaker 1>I've hired interns after they've interned for me for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So but hopefully that was helpful. I know it was, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't know what I'm talking about fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, forty million dollars later, I have learned

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<v Speaker 1>all the mistakes the hard way, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to if you are someone who was like, ough girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start a business, you know, or my

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<v Speaker 1>business is you know, up and running, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what I'm doing, or I need some mentorship.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentorship is so critically important. Then head on over to

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<v Speaker 1>my men, to Tiffany dot com and join our Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only ten bucks a month, but if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going up to twenty bucks a month, but the

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<v Speaker 1>old people will be grandfathered in. I think actually is

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<v Speaker 1>going up next month. I don't know when this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna air, but y'all, so if you want to lock

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in ten bucks a month, it will always be

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<v Speaker 1>ten bucks a month for those who signed up for

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<v Speaker 1>ten bucks a month, and it'll go up for the

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<v Speaker 1>new people later. But yeah, you can join us at

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<v Speaker 1>my mentor tiffany dot com link. In the show notes,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a blizzy black break and come back

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<v Speaker 1>with the money question, and it's actually a really good one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be back in black. Y'all. Don't tell many,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been acting up too much time. I've been good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been real good. All right, see you in a

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<v Speaker 1>minute and we're back and black and black. So, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, shout out to this lip that I'm wearing,

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<v Speaker 1>because so y'all know we have this super dope black

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<v Speaker 1>um producer her name is Emaney. Annie Mandy was like, yes, lip,

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<v Speaker 1>I just love black women because we compliment you like

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<v Speaker 1>for what you have on Yes, bun okay, skin brown

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<v Speaker 1>see you. I just love being black yp So she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay with these lips, and because we love

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<v Speaker 1>black around here, my lip is by If you was

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<v Speaker 1>watching us on YouTube, you would be able to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, my lip is by this black owned

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<v Speaker 1>I guess health and beauty brand called the lip Bar.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually, no, Melissa personally, she's super dope black woman

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<v Speaker 1>in business. She actually was rejected on Shark Tank, but

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<v Speaker 1>when Jesus said yes, nobody say no. So she has

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<v Speaker 1>grown her business to be this multimillion dollar business that

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<v Speaker 1>is available at Target's. She actually Melissa is from Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>from the d and I've been to the Lip Bar

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit. It's super cute. And so I'm wearing guess

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<v Speaker 1>what the let me tell you how I am right

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<v Speaker 1>on point right here. So the lip color I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 1>is called rich Auntie, and that ain't the truth, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because lord knows I'm a rich Aunty. So it's really pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this, like it's a very pinky red, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And my liner is Mac but whatever. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna give back too much because it's hyperworld

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<v Speaker 1>via Mac whatever. But we really here for the lip

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<v Speaker 1>bar rich Aunty. Okay. That's one of my favorite colors,

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<v Speaker 1>is one of her best sellers. So let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the money question of today. So this question comes from

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<v Speaker 1>Naya Hi, and Naya you see what I did there?

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<v Speaker 1>So Nya says, hey, Tiff and Mandy, I am twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine years old, and until I found this podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>six months ago, no one all caps, I repeat again,

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<v Speaker 1>all caps, no one has been able to make me

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<v Speaker 1>one care about to feel educated and empowered about my money. Nay,

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<v Speaker 1>your girl, don't have me crying up here. Naya Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>She says, I struggled with math since I was younger

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<v Speaker 1>and often felt discouraged for my ability to manage my money.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mama, but you all use language and concepts that

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<v Speaker 1>really help me to get it. Yes, that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>here for, Naya, She says, I have a question for

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<v Speaker 1>the baqa that's a little dance to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany's song. Why the ba qa a to b a

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<v Speaker 1>q a? What you say? I love that you love

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<v Speaker 1>that song because I feel like Meddie hates it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's here to stay. Oh no, she dover hate it,

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<v Speaker 1>so she said. I recently started a new job. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be intentional about my retirement options. Good, Naya.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a decent sized rollover for my last four

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<v Speaker 1>one K about fifty five hundred invested. Okay? Good. I

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<v Speaker 1>was told I have two options. You actually have more,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's okay. One opened a rollover IRA with my

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<v Speaker 1>personal bank so that it's always there if and when

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<v Speaker 1>I changed jobs, or two roll it over into my

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<v Speaker 1>new jobs four one K plan I have have, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>rollover enough. I'm trying not to get text y'all taught

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<v Speaker 1>me that. Yes, girl. What are some of the advantages

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<v Speaker 1>of a true additional IRA versus keeping the money in

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<v Speaker 1>a four one K or vice versa? Is it better

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<v Speaker 1>to have two accounts? Or just keep all of my

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<v Speaker 1>retirement funds in one account. Thanks for all that you

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<v Speaker 1>do to educate our community. Ny, your girl. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give you a round of applause for thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this ahead of time, for understanding that you can

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<v Speaker 1>trigger a tax, an unwanted tax trigger, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do this correctly. So I'm glad that you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking this question and we're gonna get you straight. So

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<v Speaker 1>there are actually multiple things you can do. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>go over. There are five things you can do. So one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can leave your money in your current four one

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<v Speaker 1>K plan. But you know the problem is is that

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<v Speaker 1>like like the pro is I guess it's just convenient,

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<v Speaker 1>but the cond is child you know, one, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to that plan anymore. So by two, they might

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<v Speaker 1>actually charge you additional fees because you're no longer an

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<v Speaker 1>employee and who wants to manage multiple like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I rate or four one K plans are two different companies.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're that is an option. But because I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that there's options, there are about four options.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're not doing that. Okay, she can't sit with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not leaving your current four one K plan where

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<v Speaker 1>it is buy okay two option two, you can roll

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<v Speaker 1>it into a new four to oh one K plan.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the options that you brought up,

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<v Speaker 1>and so here's some of the pros. So assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>you like the new plans, the costs and the features

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<v Speaker 1>and the investment choices, this can be a good option. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So your savings has the potential for growth, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's tax deferred, meaning like you don't have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on it now because you know with four one

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<v Speaker 1>ks you don't pay taxes now. You pay taxes when

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<v Speaker 1>you pull it out, and so you can continue and

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<v Speaker 1>if you continue to work for the company, then you

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<v Speaker 1>know you could just continue to add to that four

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<v Speaker 1>one K plan. Those are some of the pros. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that everything is right there. You know, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>probably will have the same protections that you had at

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<v Speaker 1>your other FOREU one K plan. The cons is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to need to liquidate your current for one

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<v Speaker 1>K investment and reinvest it into your new four one

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<v Speaker 1>K plan and the new money, this money that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be rolled over will be subject to your new

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<v Speaker 1>plans with draw rules, so you know you likely whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you locked that money in there, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to typically take it with you unless you

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<v Speaker 1>leave your employer. But I mean, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>con that you kind of know, like I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>my money here and leave my money here. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can leave your money with this, you could roll it

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<v Speaker 1>over to this new place. The key that's really critical

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<v Speaker 1>is that you are not to do the rollover yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>The bank has to talk to the bank, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you, like, I just rolled over some money, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't for me to like cash out the

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<v Speaker 1>money and say, here's thirty thousand dollars. Got no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Like literally, they're going to do themselves and give you

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<v Speaker 1>clear directions. For one. For me, for example, they actually

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a check that was not for me. It

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<v Speaker 1>did not even have my name on it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>really was for my new plan. And I was literally

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to mail the check to the new people. That

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<v Speaker 1>was it. I was like, just just to hold the

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<v Speaker 1>check and mail it to the new people, if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. So you just want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>in rolling over whatever you choose, that you don't accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>trigger a tax and fee of You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>trigger any of that because one, you're not fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, so if you take any money now

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be, there's a fee attached to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then two, like just like when you are fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and a half and sixty and sixty five, if

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<v Speaker 1>you take your money out, you have to pay taxes

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<v Speaker 1>on the money either way, so you will be paying twice.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't want to make that mistake. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a viable option rolling over into your four to

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<v Speaker 1>one K plan. Now there's nothing wrong. I don't think anything.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing negative here. You just have to decide. So

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<v Speaker 1>number three is you can roll it over into a

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<v Speaker 1>traditional individual retirement account. So that's an IRA. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have a four oh one K and IRA is basically

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<v Speaker 1>like a four on one K that you have at

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<v Speaker 1>your it's not buy an employer, it's with your bank.

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<v Speaker 1>So because iras are not sponsored by employers, you own

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<v Speaker 1>them directly. You won't have to worry about making changes

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<v Speaker 1>to your account should you change jobs again in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a pro and the IRA provider might

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<v Speaker 1>offer you a bigger arrange, like a wider arrange of

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<v Speaker 1>investment options and services than your new employer. So many

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<v Speaker 1>times for one k's will just have mutual funds, and

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<v Speaker 1>mutual funds typically have higher fees because a mutual fund

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<v Speaker 1>typically the the investments inside of a mutual fund are

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<v Speaker 1>picked by people, right, and so when someone gets involved,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to get paid, and so as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of that, mutual funds have higher fees that are called oh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I forgot the name of the dam fees.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, they're called fees, but it's like a special fee,

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<v Speaker 1>a special name for those fees. But so there might

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<v Speaker 1>be so you might want to compare. If it was me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would compare. You know, here's the bank where I bank?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see your IRA? What are your fees? Four

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<v Speaker 1>one K? At my new job, what are your fees?

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<v Speaker 1>And then what are my investment options? Do you just have?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the investment options at your four K are

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<v Speaker 1>probably pretty limited, they typically are, but iras are usually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty broad. But broad might not be good if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be overwhelmed in choices. Okay, so the pros

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<v Speaker 1>are maybe a lot lower fees, bigger investment options. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the cons are Once you roll over your funds

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<v Speaker 1>into an IRA, they may no longer be eligible for

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<v Speaker 1>a few future rollovers into a four one K plan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So what that just means is, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say later you're like, Oh, I'm at this new job

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<v Speaker 1>and I really like them and I love the choices

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<v Speaker 1>they have. I want to take my IRA money out

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<v Speaker 1>of my personal bank and then put it into a

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<v Speaker 1>four one K plan at this new new job. You

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't be able to do that, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You also need to specify how the funds are invested.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where people get hung up and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. The money is literally going to be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>as cash, literally losing its value via inflation, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to put money. You have to invest it actively,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So, like I said before, so the pros

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<v Speaker 1>here are likely lower fees potentially, but you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>check on them and also bigger investment options. The cons

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<v Speaker 1>for rolling it over into an IRA, your own personal

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<v Speaker 1>IRA are that you won't be able to roll it

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<v Speaker 1>over likely to a four to win K ever again,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not so bad. But also if you're someone

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<v Speaker 1>who can't pick investments, you're not really sure you won't

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<v Speaker 1>have to pick, so you know asking yourself, are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Do you feel comfortable doing that? So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the third option, right, So number four, you can convert

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<v Speaker 1>it into a wroth ira, now a wroth ira. The

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<v Speaker 1>difference between wroth and regular ira and an ira is

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<v Speaker 1>you get the tax benefit up front. You don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>taxes now, you pay taxes later. The wroth ira you

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<v Speaker 1>do pay taxes now on the money that you put

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<v Speaker 1>into that wroth ira, and then later when you withdraw it,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't pay taxes later. Okay. So the pros are

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<v Speaker 1>the withdrawals are entirely tax free in retirement as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you're over fifty nine and a half and you've

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<v Speaker 1>held the account for five years or more. Okay. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the cons are, because wroth iray's funded with after tax dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to pay taxes on the money

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<v Speaker 1>in your four one K that's you're rolling over. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to pay the taxes now. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say you're you know, you're taking out this

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five hundred. I don't know what the tax rate is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say they say you're taking out one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars from that. You pay taxes now you put it

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<v Speaker 1>into your wraw and wouldn't pay taxes later. A raw

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<v Speaker 1>iray must be opened for five years in order to

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<v Speaker 1>withdraw earnings tax free, and you're going to be subject

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<v Speaker 1>to that ten percent penalty if you would draw your money,

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<v Speaker 1>any money before you're fifty nine and a half. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's just in general, that's why I said, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to cash out because there's a ten percent penalty

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<v Speaker 1>plus whatever the taxes are you're going to pay so

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<v Speaker 1>raw iray. So this to me is not my fave

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, like you're you're already in the IRA

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<v Speaker 1>four one K space where you haven't paid taxes, so

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<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't consider it, but I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know it's available, and the last thing that you can do,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth option is the cash out, right, So that

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<v Speaker 1>just means that you are just going to take the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the pros are like you could take

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<v Speaker 1>the money. I think like after you turn fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>you could take the money from your four one K

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<v Speaker 1>and just cash it out. But you sound like you're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, So that's that's a prob but not really

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<v Speaker 1>for you. But the cons are your withdrawals are subject

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<v Speaker 1>to a mandatary twenty percent federal withholding and in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases state withholdings. So you might, you know, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be taxed with like you're gonna be tax plus

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<v Speaker 1>a penalty if you're under the age of fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, which is across the board. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the cons for taking out your money now are and

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<v Speaker 1>I did this, so don't do this. I did this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thirty, was about your age. I was thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I was leaving my well, my preschool. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>preschool teacher, and my school closed its doors because they

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<v Speaker 1>lost their funding. And I had about thirty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in my accocks. I taught for like ten years in

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<v Speaker 1>my four one K. It was a four to three

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<v Speaker 1>B which is basically like a four one K for nonprofits.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't have any money because it was a recession,

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<v Speaker 1>and I took all the money out and I lost

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<v Speaker 1>so much of it because I had to pay taxes

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and I had to pay that ten percent penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm telling this from a place of where

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<v Speaker 1>I've been. Don't go there. So the two options are

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you know, I'm not giving you financial advice,

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<v Speaker 1>because you got to get that financial advice from people

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<v Speaker 1>that you pay for financial advice. But if this was

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<v Speaker 1>Moah looking back at thirty year old Tipping, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was making the choices, I would be leaning into rolling

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<v Speaker 1>it over potentially to my new four one K plan

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<v Speaker 1>at my new job and or opening up a personal IRA.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that would help me make the decision

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<v Speaker 1>is who has more fees and do I feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>making my own investment choices in my IRA. If I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>then I might go with the four one K. If

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<v Speaker 1>I do, then I would go with the IRA, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if the fees are low. These are the things that

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<v Speaker 1>would be thinking. So I'm not here to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what to choose. I'm here to give you information so

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<v Speaker 1>you could choose what's best for you. Sis Okay, Naya

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<v Speaker 1>and Naya, I don't know this stuff. I do. So

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