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Speaker 2: Six games about to kick off, Raiders at the Bears,

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Speaker 2: Browns at the Colts, Bills at the Patriots, Commanders at

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Speaker 2: the Giants, Falcons at the Buccaneers, Lions at the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Six teams off this week Bengals, Cowboys, Titans, Jets, Panthers,

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Speaker 2: and Texans. That being said, another busy day around the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. By the way, Richie, you've got to

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Speaker 2: be in recovery after witnessing one of the most debacle

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Speaker 2: college games of all time yesterday. Oh yeah, the San

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Speaker 2: Diego State Aztecs ended the Nevada Wolpacks sixteen game losing

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Speaker 2: streak with a sixth to n the loss at home.

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Speaker 2: How did you set through a game like that?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm a pretty positive guy. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 4: try to. I try my hardest to atways focus on

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Speaker 4: the positive aspects of life, and when when you have

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Speaker 4: a game like that, really the focus becomes the future.

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Speaker 4: I started talking about some of the young players who

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Speaker 4: have really been starting to step out of the inexperience

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Speaker 4: knowledge and have begun contributing to this program. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was a tough watch for everybody involved, including the

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Speaker 4: players and the coaches. And they head into a bye week.

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Speaker 4: San Diego State does to continue on with conference play,

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Speaker 4: hosting Utah State on the other side of their second

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Speaker 4: by they were week zero team.

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Speaker 2: You know, but sticking with the NFL as we begin, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's get off that game from last night as quickly

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Speaker 2: as possible.

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Speaker 5: As we begin this week.

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Speaker 4: In the NFL, they've shined light on something that has

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Speaker 4: gone viral on social media every single week, stemming back

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Speaker 4: from the first week of preseason. At every single I

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Speaker 4: shouldn't say every single but at a majority of stadiums,

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Speaker 4: this has already happened. There have been fist fights, either

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Speaker 4: in the stands or amongst fans in the concourse, out

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Speaker 4: in the parking lots outside these games, brawls, like full

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Speaker 4: blown brawls. There's been a fatality already. A Patriots fan

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Speaker 4: was struck in the stands and died of a heart

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Speaker 4: condition later on. I'm sure it's not good if you

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Speaker 4: have a heart condition to be punched in the face

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Speaker 4: while attending an NFL game. So there's already been one

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Speaker 4: death that you can that's attributable to this sort of

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Speaker 4: violence in the stands, and so in a lot of

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Speaker 4: these recent off field skirmishes on game days, the NFL

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Speaker 4: send a memo to its teams warning against these altercations

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Speaker 4: and fightings before games or during games, and basically they're

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Speaker 4: going to start strongly enforcing game day policies. This includes

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Speaker 4: so you're gonna see suspensions, suspensions being handed down. You're

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Speaker 5: The NFL is cracking down.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's all great, I understand, and safety should

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Speaker 2: let's get real here, Rich. First of all, this has

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Speaker 2: been going on forever. Yeah, I mean I remember the

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Speaker 2: about alcohol consumption. Isn't it always amazing to you that

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Speaker 2: How many people leave a football NFL stadium with a

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Speaker 5: And you're talking about people driving away.

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Speaker 2: And driving away under the influence, there's no checkpoints. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you really want to get serious about this zero

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Speaker 2: You can't serve alcohol at the stadium because alcohol is

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Speaker 2: the fuel. Let's be clear on this. If you want

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Speaker 5: Witness to it.

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Speaker 3: So you want you want to.

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Speaker 4: To I can't tell you how many times that beer

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Speaker 2: How about a breathalyzer test going into the stadium if

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Speaker 2: So again, it's all good to say we're concerned about

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Speaker 3: So if you.

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Speaker 2: Really want to crack down, if you really want to

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Speaker 2: do it. By the way, guys, we have our first

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Speaker 2: So the Browns jump off to an early seven to

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Speaker 2: to Shawn Watson is back at quarterback for the Browns today,

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Speaker 2: so we'll keep an eye on that. But anyway, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's every man for himself.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have satin stands at stadiums all over

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Speaker 3: We see fights.

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Speaker 2: People post this all the time on their social media,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it happened amongst Bears fans at a recent

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Speaker 5: Fight on the.

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Speaker 4: Field, alcohol, But yeah, it's fueled by alcohol in the stands.

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Speaker 4: There's no question. Lamar Jackson and the Ravens are off

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Speaker 2: And Lamar just walked into the end zone for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: an interesting matchup because everyone's talking about the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: Rich you know, we've been trumpeting how good the Lions are.

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Speaker 2: There's a road test against the Ravens, and we know

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Speaker 2: the Lions can put up points. The question is how

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Speaker 2: much better is their defense this year? And at least

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Speaker 2: on that opening drive, what defense? Lamar Jackson literally walked

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Speaker 2: dbs are very banged up for the Troy Lions. I

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Speaker 2: think they added one more corner saying he was out

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Speaker 4: It's been Swiss cheese Chris on this one because Lamar

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Speaker 2: Pass eight flowers, got a lot of yards early.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna have to caught a reception for forty

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Speaker 2: All right, So also the Paige Triots are on the

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Speaker 2: the Pats against the Bills and Another big story that

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick got a huge lucrative contract extension. So does

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Speaker 2: that change anything with Bob Kraft now that he handed

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Speaker 4: Well, I said this earlier on the Herd when Colin

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Speaker 5: Has time passed him by as a coach?

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Speaker 4: And before I was aware of this revelation that there

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Speaker 5: To him, I'll repeat to you.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm loyal to a fault, and I understand that

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Speaker 4: sometimes loyalty can blind you from the reality of a situation.

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Speaker 4: There's no question about that. There's many people who stay

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Speaker 4: And I think for me personally, I look at Bill

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to be the quarterback of

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Speaker 4: be there. I said this earlier this week, and I'll

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Speaker 4: he'll at very least be given another season. I don't forecast,

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Speaker 5: But he isn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Well right now.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots are one and five overall zero and three

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Speaker 2: But the Pats have the early three to nothing lead.

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Speaker 2: Colts get on the touchdown Gardner Minshew just to a

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Speaker 5: All right, that's with Josh downs there for the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: That is right, Josh downs fifty nine yard all right.

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Speaker 2: So on the other side, not only obviously we're gonna

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Speaker 2: now around the National Football League, but previously some of

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Speaker 2: the other games coming up. Shannon Spake is joined as

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Speaker 3: Out of the gun.

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Speaker 5: It's Ford to Watson's left. The give to Ford.

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Speaker 2: Montcy Belanos proudly with her Chargers cap today. I know

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Speaker 9: Yes, it is. It is quite frustrating to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the returning Heisman Trophy winner, and all

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Speaker 2: the hype was you know, remember the Heisman speed right,

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Speaker 2: and all the other finalists were in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 2: you know there was Caleb Williams says, I'm coming back

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Speaker 2: because we have unfinished business right.

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Speaker 5: Right right, listen. It's guys, guys, it's college football. It's

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Speaker 5: about having fun. Everybody knows that.

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Speaker 4: It's just these are just young men who are gonna

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Speaker 4: go and sell insurance or you know, open up dry

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Speaker 4: cleaning businesses or or.

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Speaker 5: Maybe one that'd be home builders.

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Speaker 4: Like like, this isn't about like pay for profit if

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Speaker 4: you what, at the highest level of athletic achievement.

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Speaker 5: No, roll, They're just having fun.

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Speaker 8: Right, It's not like you just said, Caleb Williams wanting ownership.

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Speaker 9: I can't with that. I can't with that. So I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna check in. With the six NFL games going on

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Speaker 9: right now.

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Speaker 8: The Bears are beating the Raiders at home seven zero

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Speaker 8: less than a minute ago in the first quarter, while

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Speaker 8: the Browns and the Colts are still tied at seven apiece.

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Speaker 9: Halfway through the first So far it's been all Patriots.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Josh Allen threw a pick off his first

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Speaker 8: pass of the game.

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Speaker 9: No bueno for me because he's on my fantasy team.

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Speaker 8: But the Patriots are up on the Bills ten zero,

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Speaker 8: about two minutes to go in the first Falcons and

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Speaker 8: Buccaneers just tied the game, like you mentioned, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 8: finding Mike Evans in the end zone. So it's seven

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Speaker 8: to seven with the Falcons and the Buccaneers late in.

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Speaker 9: The first quarter.

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Speaker 8: And so far all Ravens against the Lions, which I'm

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Speaker 8: a little surprised about because the Ravens offense has been

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Speaker 8: inconsistent to say the least, so I was expecting the

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Speaker 8: Lions to come out hot.

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Speaker 9: Plenty of game left three minutes to go on the

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Speaker 9: first quarter.

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Speaker 8: Baltimore up fourteen zero against Detroit in the NBA. Big

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Speaker 8: news came out today Steven Adams of the Memphis Grizzlies

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Speaker 8: is going to undergo season ending surgery on that right

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Speaker 8: knee that kept him out of the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 8: He tried a rehab approach without getting any surgery.

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Speaker 9: It did not work. He still has.

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Speaker 8: Ongoing knee instability, so he's going to go and have surgery.

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Speaker 8: That will end his season unfortunately, but he is expected

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Speaker 8: to make a full recovery.

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Speaker 9: Back to you, guys, Ali Montsie, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: that Cardinals Seahawks game.

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Speaker 10: It's time for the NFL on Fox Focus.

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Speaker 5: And joini us.

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Speaker 2: Right now is Fox Sports Sideline reporter Shannon Spake.

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Speaker 3: And Shannon, I want to ask.

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Speaker 2: You about the Seahawks team a year ago, huge surprise.

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought they were going to be the

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Speaker 2: worst team in the league, and then Gino Smith, who

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know was still in the league, has

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Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl season and you know they end up

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Speaker 2: in the postseason. This year, there are a three and

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Speaker 2: two start, coming off a disappointing performance on the road

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Speaker 2: against the Bengals. But should we believe that what happened

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Speaker 2: a year ago was not a fluke that the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: can once again be in contention for a postseason position.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think it's still early to try to

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Speaker 11: determine that. I mean, if you look at last week's game,

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Speaker 11: they were one turnover and three points away from potentially

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Speaker 11: winning that game, you know, against a great Bengals team,

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Speaker 11: and so I don't know if it's I think it

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Speaker 11: might be a little too early to start counting them

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Speaker 11: in or counting them out, you know. Talking to Pete

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Speaker 11: Carroll this week, he did things defensively, They had one

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Speaker 11: of their best tackling games last week. They just didn't

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Speaker 11: do enough to close the deal. Obviously, that's what it's

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Speaker 11: all about, wins and losses in the NFL. But I'm

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Speaker 11: interested to see how things go today. I think that

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Speaker 11: there's a lot of moving parts on the Seahawks team.

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Speaker 11: I think that there's some young, young parts.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 11: Bobby Wagner obviously came back and he's trying to kind

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Speaker 11: of it was interesting he said he didn't want.

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Speaker 10: To be the voice.

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Speaker 11: He wanted to add his voice. So it's a new

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Speaker 11: dynamic and a new role for him. And I do

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Speaker 11: think that just some moving parts for the Seahawks. But

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Speaker 11: I'm looking forward to seeing how they do things today,

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Speaker 11: how they stop the run attacks of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 11: even if DK Medcalf doesn't start, how they kind of

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Speaker 11: get those guys going. Tyler Lockett and we all know

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Speaker 11: Gino Smith is still kind of I mean, he had

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Speaker 11: a great season last year. Did he buy into the hype?

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Speaker 11: Did they all buy into the hype? And did they

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Speaker 11: come in You're thinking that they were, you know, the

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Speaker 11: last year's team. Every year is different in the NFL,

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Speaker 11: and I think that's what they're trying to figure out.

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Speaker 4: And then Shanning, you look at the other sideline with

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Speaker 4: Josh Thobbs quarterback and the Arizona Cardinals, who I believe

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Speaker 4: started the season pretty hot. One and two, start super

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Speaker 4: competitive and a loss on the road against the Commanders,

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Speaker 4: same thing hosting the Giants. Thing got to win over

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Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. It's cooled off a little bit since,

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Speaker 4: but this is a team that's not just gonna lay down.

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Speaker 4: I mean, on a on a rating scale, how dangerous

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Speaker 4: are the Arizona Cardinals right now?

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think they got to be dangerous in

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Speaker 11: the second half. That's sort of been their their downfall.

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Speaker 11: You know, we did the Rams game last week where

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Speaker 11: they you know, they obviously held the Rams and then

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Speaker 11: the Rams came out and rushed for one hundred and

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Speaker 11: seventy four yards in the second half alone, and so

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Speaker 11: I think that they need to learn how to finish

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Speaker 11: these games. Listen, they don't have Kyler Murray. We know

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Speaker 11: that they haven't had Buddha Baker. We know that they

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Speaker 11: don't have James Connor.

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Speaker 9: We know that, and.

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Speaker 11: So these are these are Pro Bowlers, these are guys

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Speaker 11: that are huge contributors to this offense and this defense.

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Speaker 11: We're hoping to get Buddha Baker back on the field today.

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Speaker 2: I would love to.

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Speaker 11: See him play in this game. Obviously, he's a hometown

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Speaker 11: kid from this area. I covered him when he played

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Speaker 11: at University of Washington. He's awesome. We were actually doing

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Speaker 11: our meetings, our zoom meetings with the Cardinals this week.

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Speaker 11: We did not ask for Buddha, and he just showed

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Speaker 11: up and jumped on the zoom and started talking to us.

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Speaker 11: And so you know that this is one that he's

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Speaker 11: had circled. And we'll see if we get him back

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Speaker 11: on the field this weekend.

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Speaker 3: So Kyler Murray was back at practice.

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Speaker 2: Do we have a timetable now on what he's expected

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Speaker 2: to return to Arizona? And how is that whole dynamic

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Speaker 2: workam Let's face it, Shannon. Before the season began, the

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals were the overwhelming favorites to be the worst

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL. I think over under was four

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Speaker 2: and a half. Every other team was six and a

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Speaker 2: half wins this year. But when Murray returns, how is

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Speaker 2: that whole dynamic going to work?

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Speaker 3: Is there bad blood?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are you sensing right now with the

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Speaker 2: anticipation of Murray's return to quarterback for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I don't really think that. I mean

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Speaker 11: everything I've heard from practice, guys were really excited to

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Speaker 11: see him back out there. So I don't know if

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Speaker 11: bad blood's the way that I would go with it.

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Speaker 11: I do think it's interesting what Jonathan Gannon said is

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Speaker 11: that Kyler Murray's never taken a snap in this in

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Speaker 11: this new coaching program and this new offense and the

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Speaker 11: new things. That's the new way that they're doing things.

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Speaker 11: So it's not only going to be a physical Is

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Speaker 11: he physically ready. But is he ready from a you know,

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Speaker 11: X as a no standpoint in terms of learning this

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Speaker 11: specific offense. When I asked Jonathan Gannon this week about that,

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Speaker 11: he said, he's close. And that's really all that we got.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 11: Jay Glazer said on the show this morning on Fox

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Speaker 11: Sports that he took he took some snaps with the

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Speaker 11: first team. I have not had a chance to confirm

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Speaker 11: her deny that. Obviously, if Glazier says that, I'm going

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Speaker 11: to believe it.

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Speaker 10: But if he's.

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Speaker 11: Already taking snaps with the first team, I would say

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Speaker 11: that's pretty much an indicator that it's I would say

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Speaker 11: a week or two away.

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Speaker 4: When when you look at Pete Carroll and you think

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Speaker 4: about the reinvention of Gino Smith, and you think about

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Speaker 4: where the Seahawks were with Russell Wilson, how is he

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Speaker 4: still doing this? How is the message not gone stale?

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Speaker 4: How is he still seems as as energetica as ever

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Speaker 4: and he's now in his early seventies. How on earth

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Speaker 4: is he still coaching at this high of a level

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Speaker 4: at his age and with the rebuild that has occurred

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Speaker 4: in really quick fashion in Seattle.

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Speaker 11: So I grew up in Fort Lauderdale, and we learned

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Speaker 11: a lot about console on in the Fountain of Youth,

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Speaker 11: and I think that he Carroll has found that. Okay,

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Speaker 11: I think somehow he's aapped into that. He's amazing. I

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Speaker 11: love sitting in a room with him, and I think

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Speaker 11: what I hear him say about his players is it's

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Speaker 11: not just about the forty time or their vertical jump, or.

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Speaker 9: How they do this or how they do that.

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Speaker 11: He looks for a certain quality, a certain type of player,

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Speaker 11: a certain toughness. And I think as those players continue

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Speaker 11: to get older, they then teach the younger guys what

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Speaker 11: is needed. All of these guys are elite in what

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Speaker 11: they can do from a you know, running, catching, tackling standpoint,

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Speaker 11: But I think those intangibles are the things that Pete

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Speaker 11: Carroll looks for, and I think sometimes those intangibles are

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Speaker 11: some of the most important things that you can have

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Speaker 11: on a football field. Just listening to him talk when

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Speaker 11: he talks about his players, he says, this is what

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Speaker 11: I saw in them, this is what I I mean.

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Speaker 11: Even with Gino Smith, it's a great story. He sat

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Speaker 11: behind this guy, he sat behind this guy. He learned

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Speaker 11: he's got the toughness he's got to drive, he's a leader.

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Speaker 11: I think all of those things are so important, and

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Speaker 11: I think that is what makes Pete Carroll's teams elite.

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Speaker 2: Battle in the NFC West, Cardinals on the road against

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, Shannon Spak will be on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: Shannon, thanks so much for joining us. Who will be.

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Speaker 11: Watching, no problem, have a great day, guys, enjoyed a Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Hannon Spake. Johnny is right there. Interesting

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Speaker 2: battle and it'll be interesting to see when Kyler Murray

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Speaker 2: does return to the Cardinals whether that's going to make

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Speaker 2: a difference. Dob's played well the first three weeks, but

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Speaker 2: he has regressed over the last three weeks. That's why

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals find themselves with a one and five record.

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Speaker 2: A couple of quick updates here, Rich the Giants commanders know.

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Speaker 2: But the Giants have a second and goal at the

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Speaker 2: Washington twelve yard line. The Bills get on the board

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Speaker 2: with a field goal, and the Colts have taken a

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Speaker 2: fourteen to seven lead over the Browns. And that was

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Speaker 2: following that Deshaun Watson interception. Meanwhile, I'm watching our Chris here.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to hang on to any hope that somehow,

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Speaker 2: some way his Detroit Lions can turn this thing around.

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Speaker 2: First quarter coming to an end and the Ravens lead

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Speaker 2: the Lions fourteen to nothing, and head has been total

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Speaker 2: domination by Baltimore in this game.

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Speaker 4: Baltimore great front running organization. And what I mean by

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Speaker 4: that is when they play with the lead, it is

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Speaker 4: hard to beat the Baltimore Ravens. So Detroit's got to

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Speaker 4: do quick work to get back in this ballgame, otherwise

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Speaker 4: this could get ugly for them.

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Speaker 3: Six games going on in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We got everything you need, the scores, the stats, keep

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Speaker 2: it right here. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 12: Lamar takes a snap Lions righth four. Lamar escaping the pocket,

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Speaker 12: spins his way standing to the right side, settles his feet,

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Speaker 12: lops in the.

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Speaker 5: Back of the end zone.

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Speaker 12: Touchdown and Lamar Jackson delivered for a second time in

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Speaker 12: the red zone today.

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Speaker 2: That's ninety eight Rock Ravens Radio Network and the Ravens

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Speaker 2: have scored again twenty one Nothing Ravens over the Lions.

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Speaker 2: You want to hear some numbers, Lamar Jackson, we got

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes go on the first half, fourteen of seventeen,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and seven yards, two touchdowns, no picks, so

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Speaker 2: he has two hundred seven yards passing. Jared Goff has

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Speaker 2: two total yards two forty five for Baltimore, six for Detroit.

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Speaker 2: That's what we call domination. This is Fox Sports Red

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Speaker 5: See.

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Speaker 2: So this Ravens Lions game, Lions were undefeated on the

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Speaker 2: road three to OHO five and one. Overall, a lot

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Speaker 2: of people thought, Wow, we're gonna find out a lot

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Speaker 2: more about this Lions tea against obviously a quality Ravens

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Speaker 2: team on the road. Lamar Jackson two touchdown passes, two

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Speaker 2: hundred and seven yards pass lead thirteen minutes ago in

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Speaker 2: the first half. He's also run for a touchdown. This

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Speaker 2: is blowout city today.

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Speaker 4: Well, and one of the things that we've been able

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Speaker 4: to say about Lamar Jackson's Ravens since he's gotten there

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: is well, you can count on them to possess the ball,

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Speaker 4: run effectively, and play great defense.

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Speaker 5: And that has been true.

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Speaker 4: However, Todd Munkin, now the offensive coordinator, a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a different view as to how Lamar Jackson can

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Speaker 4: be utilized offensively. The passing game picking up so far

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Speaker 4: today thirty eight yards on the ground to two oh

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Speaker 4: seven through the air, fourteen of seventeen passing. Like you said,

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Speaker 4: the two touchdown passes already, Lamar Jackson is not as

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Speaker 4: one dimensional as he used to be. They are trying

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Speaker 4: to get the ball in the air more in Baltimore

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Speaker 4: and it's working now again a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: slow star. We talked about this with a lot of

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Speaker 4: the different AFC quarterbacks who have different offensive coordinators in

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Speaker 4: their ear Patrick mahomes back to mcnagy, Kellen Moore working

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Speaker 4: with Justin Herbert. Now there's been switchover. There's been changeover.

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Speaker 4: Offensive coordinators get jobs elsewhere, offensive coordinators get head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 4: In Baltimore, Todd Monkin is trying to make a difference.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to change their approach offensively, and it's working

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Speaker 4: today against Detroit.

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Speaker 2: So you have the Colts and the Browns. The Browns

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Speaker 2: have a first thing that we just got to the

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Speaker 2: end of the first quarter. There Browns trying to even

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Speaker 2: up this game. Fourteen to seven. Colts. Quarterback passer ratings

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Speaker 2: so far Gardner Minshew three of five eighty four yards,

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Speaker 2: one touchdown, no pick. That's a passer rating of one

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Speaker 2: forty three point eight. Deshaun Watson one for five, five yards,

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Speaker 2: no touchdowns, a one pick. That is a passer rating

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Speaker 2: of zero point zero. But the Browns are getting it

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Speaker 2: done on the ground and now have a chance to

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Speaker 2: tie it up. They have a first and goal at

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Speaker 2: the three yard line of the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Where are we right.

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Speaker 2: Now with Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's been injured, so he has not played a

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Speaker 4: lot this season so far. Deshaun Watson had a non

748
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Speaker 4: throwing shoulder injury, a tear in his rotator cuff. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure what happened. Nobody really is exactly

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Speaker 4: sure what happened. It feels like to me, and this

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Speaker 4: is my own subjectivity, it feels like to me that

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Speaker 4: there must have been some sort of disagreement on how

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Speaker 4: to handle this medically. And Watson may have seeked a

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Speaker 4: second opinion and they and did so quietly. And he

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Speaker 4: was taken a little bit of flak from the front

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Speaker 4: office and from the coaching staff about how he was

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Speaker 4: handling the injury, but maybe wanted to heed with a

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Speaker 4: little bit more caution than the Cleveland Browns wanted to,

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Speaker 4: considering where they feel like they're at in the AFC

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Speaker 4: and in their division. And DeShawn may have said, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: I got to look out for myself here a little bit,

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Speaker 4: with my health and my career So that's my own

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Speaker 4: subjective analysis of it. We'll see if there's any further

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Speaker 4: information available.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, he looks a little rusty. You know, he

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Speaker 5: didn't play a lot of football last year.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't played a lot of football over the past

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Speaker 4: three seasons, and already this season he's been taking off

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Speaker 4: the field with an injury situation. So still a lot

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Speaker 4: of rust around the edges. With Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: It's not getting better, let's put it that way. In

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Speaker 2: other words, he's he's I don't know if it's going

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Speaker 2: to get better, but right now it's not getting better.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Giants on the board first in

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Speaker 2: that matchup against the Commanders, Tad don't call me Tyrod

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Speaker 2: Taylor a touchdown pass there to Darren Waller. When you

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Speaker 2: think about quarterbacks that signed huge deals in this offseason,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Burrow, how are they doing right now?

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Speaker 2: Are they living up to those huge deals that they've

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Speaker 2: got in this offseason?

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: You kind of lump Daniel Jones in with the group, and.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jaberlin Hurts has seven touchdowns and seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't include Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones he

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Speaker 4: signed the Dak Prescott contract from two years ago in

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Speaker 4: New York.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to say this.

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Speaker 4: Because this sounds ridiculous, but forty million dollars for a

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Speaker 4: franchise quarterback, if that's what the bit of the excuse me,

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00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: the Giants felt that Daniel Jones could be to them

792
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: is a bargain. Yeah, Now he has not played well

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Speaker 4: this season. I don't think it's all Daniel Jones' fault.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's going to say forty million a

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Speaker 2: year for Daniel Jones as a bargain.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you look at the Giants and the way

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Speaker 4: they were protecting him while he was out there, Not

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Speaker 4: all of those sacks were the offensive line's fault. Some

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Speaker 4: of them were Daniel Jones fault. But my goodness, he

800
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Speaker 4: was sacked thirty times before Torod Taylor took over, thirty times.

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Speaker 4: He hadn't even played a full six games and he

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Speaker 4: was sacked thirty times. So yeah, it's very difficult to

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Speaker 4: evaluate a quarterback when when even one who's expensive, when

804
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 4: he can't throw the football, he's being pressured at that rate.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we have a touchdown for the They've even

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00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: up that game against the Colts and the Bears have

807
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Speaker 2: a second and goal on the Raiders three yard line

808
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Speaker 2: looking to extend. There's seven to nothing lead. For all

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Speaker 2: the latest, keep it here. This is Fox Sports Red

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Speaker 2: Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: Tail It takes the snap, fires it into the end

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Speaker 2: zone for Waller touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Giants their first first half touchdown of the season.

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Speaker 5: It's their first touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: It's September the twenty first at San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: That's w Fangiants Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: So at least for the moment, Giants fans are feeling

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Speaker 2: a little bit better the early seven to nothing lead

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Speaker 2: over the Commanders. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: And it is now twenty eight to nothing. Ravens over

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Speaker 2: the Lions, still eight minutes to go in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson fifteen to nineteen, two hundred and twenty nine yards,

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Gots Edwards just got into the end zone

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Speaker 2: with a score. The Lions have thirteen total yards in

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Speaker 2: this game, Baltimore has three hundred and twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Is complete domination the Lions defense again, it's a mass

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Speaker 4: unit on the back end. Their secondary banged up for sure,

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Speaker 4: but this pass rush has done a really nice job

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Speaker 4: heming in offenses this season so far. That's helped and

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Speaker 4: is attributed in a large way to them getting off

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Speaker 4: to a five and one start. What they did most

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Speaker 4: recently to the Buccaneers holding them to six, holding the

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Speaker 4: Panthers to twenty four while their offense romped them posted

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Speaker 4: forty plus there the Falcons earlier in the season held

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Speaker 4: them to six. I mean, this defense over the past

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Speaker 4: four games twice has held teams two single digits. That's

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Speaker 4: difficult to do in the NFL. But today it's just

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Speaker 4: been Ravens unleashed on Detroit in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: How about the Bears of fourteen?

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Speaker 2: Nothing on the Raiders, Bears coming in obviously one in

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Speaker 2: five zero to three at home. Tyson Bagent is their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Today's nine to twelve sixty two yards. Meanwhile, your former

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Speaker 2: roommate with the Patriots, Brian Hoyer nine to fifteen eighty

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Speaker 2: one yards and a pick. What do you think of

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Speaker 2: Devonte Adams voicing his displeasure with the organization publicly, even

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Speaker 2: after winning their last couple of games.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the reality. DeVante Adams could have played anywhere.

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Speaker 4: He played with this franchise because he believed in two things.

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Speaker 4: One that he could go back and play with his

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Speaker 4: quarterback that he played with at Fresno State in college

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Speaker 4: and they had a tremendous amount of success together obviously

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Speaker 4: during their college playing days. But also, he's chasing hardware,

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Speaker 4: he's getting older, he wants.

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Speaker 5: To win a championship.

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Speaker 4: And I think he was sold the bill of goods

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Speaker 4: when he signed this free agency contract and again the

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Speaker 4: Raiders gave him a big contract. But still, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think I think his criticisms are somewhat warranted. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if doing it publicly is the best thing

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Speaker 4: for the team, certainly not maybe for him personally it'll

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Speaker 4: work out, But but yeah, I think that's the genesis

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Speaker 4: of that commentary is he felt like, well, I came

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Speaker 4: here to play with Derek Carr and to win a

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, and neither are going to be happening this season.

874
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Speaker 2: Well, teams have called the Raiders, and the Raiders are

875
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: telling everybody we're not trading him. Yeah, he's not on

876
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: the trade market. So well, until somebody comes up with

877
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 2: a better offer another, that's usually what happened. In other words,

878
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: he's not tradeable. What two number ones did you say?

879
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: Two number ones?

880
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 2: Two number ones might consider? How about the New England

881
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Patriots up leading the Bills thirteen to three. Mac Jones

882
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: has been very efficient eight of ten hundred and ten yards,

883
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, no picks. That's a key stat there, But

884
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 2: it's really been the Patriots defense. Josh Allen's been picked

885
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: off once. He's thrown for just eighty five yards. They

886
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: only have twenty three yards on the ground. We talked

887
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: about this earlier. The Bill's offense. I mean, they look

888
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: good against Miami, but Miami doesn't have any defense, and

889
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: now they're running into an inspired New England team.

890
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: And I go back yesterday.

891
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you watched any of that Alabama

892
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: Tennessee game Tennessee was up twenty to seven and a

893
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: half time at Alabama, second half twenty seven zip Crimson Tide.

894
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: And so Nick Saban and Bill Belichick cut from the

895
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: same cloth. They've been friends forever, coaches together back in

896
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: the day. And so while the coaching obituaries for Nick

897
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: Saban were vastly premature, I just wonder if New England

898
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: can finish this off today, get a win at home

899
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: against the Bills, whether that can spark this team to,

900
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, get it right and actually head in the

901
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: right direction for the remainder of the season.

902
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean, this is a team that you

903
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 4: could you can make the argument should be a three

904
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: and three ball club that that Giants win was really

905
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: the Giants beating themselves last Thursday night. There's no question

906
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 4: in my mind that the New York Football Giants could

907
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: have could have won that game if they made better

908
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: decisions at the end of the half and better play

909
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: calls at the end of the game, or if the

910
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: officiating looked at the way Darren Waller was held, which

911
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: he clearly was on that untimed down to finish the

912
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: game and gave the Giants another shot at it. So

913
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: you look at them and you say, yeah, four and

914
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: two Bills, they're starting to figure it out. But if

915
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: you actually watch these games, I still look at them

916
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 4: as highly inconsistent. And I have serious concerns about Josh

917
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: Allen as he progress is with Ken Dorsey because it

918
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 4: doesn't look the same as it did with Brian Dabole.

919
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: And then in terms of the Patriots, yeah, look, I mean,

920
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: I'm never going to count out Bill Belichick. I played

921
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: for the guy for three years. I lived in that system.

922
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: I understand how meticulous it is. And if they have

923
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: buying that's the most important part. If there's trust in

924
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: what the organization and the franchise and what Bill is

925
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: telling everybody at the head of this organization, well then

926
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: they're going to have success if they have enough talent

927
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 4: on the roster. I don't know if they're a talented

928
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 4: enough team to have a good year, but can they

929
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 4: have a passable season as they look to rebuild look

930
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: forward to, you know, being less restricted with some of

931
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: the cap numbers that they're dealing with this season.

932
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that.

933
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: Rebuild, as we know in the National Football League, it

934
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: can happen really fast.

935
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: The Buccaneers have kicked a field goal even up that

936
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: game against the Falcons ten ten. Right now, in that game,

937
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: Baker mayfield one hundred and seventy one yards passing already

938
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: in the first half. He is playing well, also playing well, Tara,

939
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: don't call me Tyrod Taylor ten at fourteen hundred and

940
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: sixty three yards. He just threw a second touchdown pass

941
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: of the game of Giants leading the Commanders fourteen and nothing.

942
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: You know, Taylor's been around, obviously, he's had you know,

943
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm almost like a geno Smith, right, He's been the

944
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 2: guy that's been around, starter backup. Now getting an opportunity,

945
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: obviously with Daniel Jones out.

946
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: What do you do if you're the Giants.

947
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 2: You're sitting at one in five, Taylor's playing well, Jones

948
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: has not. You do you ride the hot hand for

949
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: a little bit if you're the Giants, or do you

950
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: immediately run back in your forty million dollar a year

951
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: quarterback as soon as he's ready.

952
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: Well, you always have to think about doing what's best

953
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: for your franchise in the short run and in the

954
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: long run. And maybe what's good for them in the

955
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 4: short run is to let Daniel Jones get healthy and

956
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: let Tara Taylor handle some of the stressors that are

957
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: being placed on starting quarterbacks. They still haven't figured out

958
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: this offensive line already. Taylor has been under pressure in

959
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: this game and you can see it coming. He will

960
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: be sacked. I mean, it's just a matter of time.

961
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: He was sacked three times last week against the Bills,

962
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: hurried many others. The pressure has gotten to whoever's been

963
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: under center for the Giants. But yeah, I do think

964
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: it's looked slightly better. I do think that since Tarrod

965
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: Taylor has been there and some of the effort to

966
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: improve the offensive line with some acquisitions that justin Pew

967
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: off the Street playing left tackle, it was an improvement.

968
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: Oddly enough, it was an improvement last week. So there

969
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 4: has been an effort to adjust things and make things

970
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: better up front. But it's been a you know, we

971
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 4: were talking about the Detroit Lion secondary. Same thing with

972
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 4: the offensive line in New York. It's been a mass unit.

973
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 4: There've been a lot of injuries, a lot of poor play,

974
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: and as a result, it's really suppressed the offensive output.

975
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're wondering rich and I call

976
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: him Tarrod and not Tyrod Taylor when he was with

977
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: the Chargers. He mentioned the fact that his mother, who

978
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 2: gave him his name, pronounces it Tarrod, not Tyrod. Everyone

979
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: calls him Tyrod Taylor, but the woman that actually gave

980
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: him the name says Tarrod, not Tyrod. So that's why

981
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: we call him Tarrod and honoring his mother, which intended

982
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: that to be his name.

983
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 4: I mean he played at VA Tech, they called him

984
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: Tyrod Taylor there. Yeah, he played for about six seven

985
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 4: years in the NFL before he told anybody ever.

986
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: Anybody calls him Tyrod Taylor for ten years.

987
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 4: For a decade, he was just allowing people to call

988
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: him Tyrod.

989
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: He's a very quiet guy, very great guy. But he

990
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: just happened to mention the fact that his mother gave

991
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: him the name and it's Tarad not Tyrod.

992
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: So that's why we do that.

993
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: Browns have red taken the lead seventeen to fourteen over

994
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: the Colts. This inspite the fact that Deshaun Watson is

995
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: he out of this game right now? What is the

996
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: latest here, Ryan? Because I see PJ. Walker attempting to

997
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: pass Watson won to five just five yards and a pick.

998
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: They've been getting it done with their running game. That's

999
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: how they have a seventeen to fourteen lead over the Colts.

1000
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: What is the status of Deshaun Watson? Do we have

1001
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: enough sense not back in the game quite yet. It

1002
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: appears that he did clear concussion protocol, but they're still

1003
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: looking at his rotator cuff, so there's no official ruling

1004
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: on his status in terms of returning to the PJ.

1005
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: Walker course, he didn't play great, but he was the

1006
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: quarterback when the Browns ended the winning streak of Rock

1007
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Speaker 2: Party and the forty nine Ers a week ago. By

1008
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1010
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1011
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1013
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: we're approaching halftimes with game games around the National Football

1014
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: League six games in progress. For all the latest, keep

1015
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: it here. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

1016
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 6: Taylor over center, play fake back to throw, steps up,

1017
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 6: dumps it underneath, completes it to Barkley runs out of

1018
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 6: a tuckle.

1019
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 5: He's to the ten. He's the he's in for the touchdown.

1020
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 5: Sake one from thirty two yards out. Have a Giants

1021
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 5: take the lead thirteen to nothing.

1022
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 2: That's w Fan Giants Radio Network. Couple of touchdown passes

1023
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: or Torod Taylor. Giants lead the Commanders fourteen zip, five

1024
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: minutes to go in the first half in that game. Meanwhile,

1025
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: and by the way, this is Fox Sports Red Zone

1026
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: Radio Steve Harper, rich Ormberger. We a live from the

1027
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: tyrak dot com studios. Gardner Minshew rushing touchdown. Anthony Richardson

1028
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 2: the rookie out for the season. Rich and Gardner Minshew

1029
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: will be the quarterback from here on in for the Colts.

1030
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: Colts lead the Browns by a score of twenty one

1031
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: to seventeen. Big disappointment for the Colts organization with the

1032
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: injury to Anthony Richardson. I guess my only concern there

1033
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: early in the season was is that there was a

1034
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: lot of focus on Richardson because the owner had made

1035
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: it clear even if they had had the number one

1036
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: overall pick, Anthony Richardson would have been their choice. And

1037
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: I just felt like, even though he played well, they

1038
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: were asking him to do too much too soon, and

1039
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: his rookie season ends prematurely.

1040
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: I agree, I one hundred percent agree. Now it's not

1041
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 4: about doing too much too soon, it's about too much period.

1042
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: Like you have to either a sculpt an offense that

1043
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 4: helps him protect himself, or give him the practice reps

1044
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: to help him learn how to protect himself, like legitimately

1045
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: practice having him running out of bounds avoiding contact on

1046
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: the sideline, Legitimately have him practice sliding to avoid contact.

1047
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 4: These are things that are not innately apparent to a

1048
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: player who's elevating from the college ranks into the NFL

1049
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: that this is something they need to do to preserve

1050
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: themselves because they never had to do it in their

1051
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: entire life. You know, through high school they were the biggest,

1052
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: baddest dude on the yard. Through college, many players they

1053
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: ascend to become the biggest baddest duit on the yard.

1054
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: And he was so fast and so strong and so

1055
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: big playing the quarterback position, he didn't have to be

1056
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: afraid or shy away from contact. Because many of the

1057
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: guys that he was playing against in college will be

1058
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: selling insurance or cars.

1059
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 5: After their college careers. Well, guess what.

1060
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: At the NFL level, these guys are trained killers. These

1061
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 4: guys are This is what they do. They run down

1062
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: the football field and they look to demolish you from

1063
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 4: a defensive standpoint. It's an unbelievably violent sport, and if

1064
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 4: you don't protect yourself, you end up hurt three times

1065
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: and then out for the season before your rookie year

1066
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: really gets started.

1067
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: The Lions the Ravens. We're getting close to halftime now.

1068
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 2: Inside two minutes ago, the Lions finally stopped the Ravens

1069
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: on a fumble. They didn't even force the fumble, the

1070
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: ball was dropped recovered by the Lions. The Lion's trying

1071
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 2: to get anything going right now. The score is bad.

1072
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: The overall stats are even worse. Eighteen first downs to

1073
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: three Ravens, three point fifty six to fifty eight total

1074
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: yards in this game. And Lamar Jackson this this goes

1075
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 2: back to MVP days. I mean, he's been unreal today.

1076
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 2: Seventeen to twenty one, two hundred and fifty five yards,

1077
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 2: two scores. He's also run for a touchdown. So if

1078
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: you are Dan Campbell and this game continues on in

1079
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: the path that it's going right now, you know, sometimes

1080
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: they talk about, you know, sort of like a learning

1081
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: experience I don't know if that works in the NFL,

1082
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: but for a team that was really talking up a

1083
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: good game, I mean, Jared Goff says, hey, we can

1084
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: beat anybody, and so they're feeling really good about themselves

1085
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: and you should after a five to one start, a

1086
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: humbling game like today, How does that play for a

1087
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: team like the Lions that's trying to shake a losing

1088
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: background and become a winner.

1089
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: Before I answer that question, we just got a text

1090
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 4: message from a former co host of US BOTH. Mike Costa,

1091
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 4: also used to be a sideline analyst for the radio

1092
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 4: call for the Las Vegas Raiders, working in his yard,

1093
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: wanted a Raiders update in this game. It is not

1094
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 4: going well for Las Vegas on the road in Chicago

1095
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 4: now fourteen to three. Right now, the Raiders are trailing.

1096
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 4: Brian Hoyer ten of nineteen, passing ninety three yards, one pick.

1097
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 4: Tyson Bagent in his first ever start the Pride of

1098
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 4: Shepherd College, I believe, or Shepherd University wherever he came from,

1099
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 4: fourteen of nineteen, one of four through the through the air,

1100
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 4: zero picks, zero touchdowns. Deonta Foreman going off for the Bears,

1101
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 4: eight carries, forty one yards, two rushing touchdowns and along

1102
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 4: of thirteen. So Chicago gonna go in at the half leading.

1103
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 5: This game fourteenth to three.

1104
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: All right, well, Costa, don't ask for that. You know, again,

1105
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: it's not been a good day. Raiders were hoping to

1106
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: extend their winning streak to three on the road against

1107
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: the Happles Bear, So.

1108
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 4: Well, hang on a little bit. What what we're gonna

1109
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 4: call this? Whatever they're trailing by eleven. I know they're

1110
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 4: on the road.

1111
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Hoyer will see.

1112
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not facing Brian Urlacher, they are not.

1113
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: So getting back to what Dan Campbell I mean, does

1114
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: is this one of those organizations because they've been a

1115
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: perennial loser where a blowout loss like this potentially shakes

1116
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 2: any confidence they had built early on in this season.

1117
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: Or if you're Dan Campbell, you just say, hey, guys,

1118
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: one of those days, let's throw it away and get

1119
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: back on track.

1120
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan Campbell, he's done to the city of Detroit.

1121
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 4: What you know, what it compares to is what Bryce

1122
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 4: Harper has brought to the Philadelphia Phillies. So when Harper's

1123
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: there and it was a big deal, you know, long

1124
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 4: term deal, huge free agency signing. He really leaned into

1125
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: the blue collar, hardworking, working class attribute to the city

1126
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: of Philadelphia. And you can tell the way he talks

1127
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: about the fan base, you can tell the way he

1128
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: addresses the media about what it means to him to

1129
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 4: see you know, Philly Stadium, phil Philly's Ballpark whatever they

1130
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: call it, over there filled to the rafters and cheering

1131
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: for the team. Dan Campbell's done a lot of that

1132
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: in Detroit. Detroit's a hard luck town, man. You know,

1133
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 4: it used to be a boomtown, now part of the

1134
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: Ross Belt motor city. How many cars are made there anymore?

1135
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 4: I know there's been a bit of a renaissance, but

1136
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: it's been a lurching pace economically trying to get back

1137
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 4: on path. And what he's meant to that city, I

1138
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 4: think from an emotional standpoint, he's just got what it

1139
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 4: takes to will a team or a city or a

1140
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: fan base who had very little to root for, and

1141
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: to create a spark. From that spark, create a flame,

1142
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 4: and from that flame, create a little heat for his franchise,

1143
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 4: and it's tumbled into overwhelmingly a successful story for the Lions.

1144
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, look, they're gonna take their lumps here. It

1145
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: looks like as the second quarter is coming to an end,

1146
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: they'll go in at halftime assumingly still being shut out.

1147
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 4: Twenty eight. Nothing is a score right now. But if

1148
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: there's a head coach in the in the National Football

1149
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 4: League who I trust from an emotional intelligence standpoint to

1150
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 4: get his team back on track after a tough loss,

1151
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: it's Dan Campbell.

1152
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't count out the Lions though they now

1153
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 2: have the ball at the Ravens twenty eight yard line.

1154
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: They have a third and three at the very least,

1155
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: they're in field goal position. And Jared gov what was that, Chris?

1156
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: Can you ident it? Was that a pass?

1157
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 5: Oh boy?

1158
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: Or was that a fumble?

1159
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 5: Boy?

1160
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: He didn't take a sack on that? That feels like,

1161
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: you know what, I take it all back. Everything nice

1162
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: they just said about the Lions.

1163
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: Wow, that is that is about as ugly a hass

1164
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: as you're ever gonna three.

1165
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: He essentially spiked them.

1166
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: No, he saw the rush coming, and that's one of

1167
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: those things he does real Where is the receiver he's

1168
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: just getting in a way.

1169
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to take the sack, he just throws it.

1170
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1171
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: Now they called intentional grounding on Jared Goff. So he

1172
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: just literally took him out of field goal range because

1173
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: that's a loss of down and the penalty. So GoF

1174
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: threw the ball into the ground. That is intentional grounding

1175
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: when you're in the pocket, and they called him on it.

1176
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: So it's now fourth and fifteen. So GoF goes brain dead,

1177
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: absolutely brain dead. I mean, you can't do that. He

1178
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: knows that bad, bad decision. Veteran quarterback understands.

1179
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: Literally takes him out of field goal position.

1180
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 4: But hang on, this is symptom of the situation when

1181
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: things go really wrong. We saw this with Caleb Williams

1182
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: against the Utes. We've seen this happen recently with him

1183
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: at USC. You panic and you try to do too much.

1184
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: Don't play hero ball, you know, operate inside the system.

1185
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 5: Take a sack.

1186
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 4: It may be a lousy place to take a sack,

1187
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 4: but it's better than losing even more yardage with the penalty.

1188
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, definitely a brain th price value.

1189
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: They had field goal range.

1190
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 2: Now they have a fourth and fifteen at the forty

1191
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: yard line and the field goal range if he took

1192
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: the sack, though, like I think they were dead either way.

1193
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: Well, I mean either way.

1194
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to be able to throw the

1195
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: ball away in a manner that's not going to cost

1196
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: you a penalty. And that's exactly what happens. So they're

1197
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: going to go for it on fourth and fifteen. There's

1198
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: nineteen seconds to go in the half right now. Again,

1199
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: it's a point. I mean, if he took the sack.

1200
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 5: Would he have been back at the Baltimore forty No?

1201
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: No, That's my point is that you you might still

1202
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: be in field goal range.

1203
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: This is shameless defense by a Lions die hard Jared

1204
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: Goff fan. Chris I am.

1205
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh, if you listen to my podcast, if you listen

1206
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: to Pride Detroit, you would know I am not a

1207
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: Jared Goff fan. Well you should be, because Gods had

1208
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: a really good year. He's had a very good year.

1209
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: He's had a very good year. I still argue that

1210
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: the Lion's probably a really good year a year ago.

1211
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: Today's eleven of eighteen ninety nine yards. What's amazing is

1212
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: is that the Ravens are leading twenty eight to nothing

1213
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: and the Lions have not turned the ball over once.

1214
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the first four.

1215
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: Drives of the Ravens were long drives, all resulting in touchdowns.

1216
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: The only thing to stopped the Ravens on their last

1217
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: drive was a fumble in which the running back literally

1218
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: drops the handoff I got, mar Jackson.

1219
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: I do have to give credit because the best defense

1220
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 4: sometimes is is a ball control offense and a nice

1221
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 4: nine play drive here to limit the bleeding before the half.

1222
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 4: I mean, that's exactly what the Detroit Lions needed to do,

1223
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 4: is take some time off the clock.

1224
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 2: Well, we got a first down for the Lions right there.

1225
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 2: Clutch fourth and fifteen Saints round flag though, uh oh penalty.

1226
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 4: It's against sue defensive holding.

1227
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: So's got some time to find one discipline dropping on

1228
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: top of it too. So now you move the ball

1229
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: even further back sport down, do you just punt? Well,

1230
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: by the way, if you throw an incomplete pass, yeah,

1231
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna punt.

1232
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: I mean, this is ridiculous.

1233
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 5: You have to come on. I mean it's fourth and

1234
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 5: twenty five then to get the ball.

1235
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: To start the second half, because Baltimore won of the

1236
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: balls start time, So fourteen psyconds left and the half

1237
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: it ends mercifully for this Lion's team. We're brought to

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1242
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: Let's find out what is.

1243
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: A trending right now and Monthsye is back so much.

1244
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: You didn't tell me about your feeling about your Chargers

1245
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: right now? Oh they are uh taking on the Chiefs

1246
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: and Casey, the Chargers play well against the child they do,

1247
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: they do.

1248
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 8: I actually think they could pull it off because they

1249
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 8: win the most unexpected games and then the games that

1250
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 8: they should win easily they don't.

1251
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert has by far the most interceptions thrown in

1252
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter since he came into this league. No

1253
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league since his rookie season is even

1254
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: close in fourth quarter interceptions.

1255
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 9: Well, is sure for that?

1256
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 5: Thank you for that, God, though, I mean he could

1257
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 5: turn that around today. Yeah, I mean, thank you.

1258
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm asking her. Is that a concern?

1259
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 9: Of course it is, of course it is. But you

1260
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 9: know you still have hope.

1261
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 8: You still have hope that he can do something, that

1262
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 8: he can turn that around.

1263
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 9: Rich, don't la.

1264
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 5: I thought what I was trying to help and then

1265
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 5: that last time. I mean, you're laying it off pretty big.

1266
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 9: Thank you, mister Hartman. I appreciate. I feel so good

1267
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 9: about my life right now.

1268
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 13: What's trending to No one surprises this Lions Ravens game

1269
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 13: because Baltimore has been cooking this entire time, specifically Lamar Jackson,

1270
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 13: who's thrown for two hundred and fifty five yards two touchdowns.

1271
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 8: He also has a rushing touchdown, and it really has

1272
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 8: been all Ravens twenty eight zero.

1273
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 9: I did not have this on my bingo card.

1274
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 8: The Buccaneers defense ended the first half really well. They

1275
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 8: forced a fumble after sacking Desmond Ritter got possession and

1276
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 8: so we ended tied Falcons Buccaneers at ten apiece. At

1277
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 8: his halftime, the Giants a have scored two touchdowns in.

1278
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 9: The first half for the first time this season. Tyrod,

1279
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 9: don't call me Tarrod or what is it? No, Tarad,

1280
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 9: don't call me Tyrod Tapa.

1281
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: That is correct.

1282
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 9: That called Rod Taylor. That's it right, that's it.

1283
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 8: He's thrown for two hundred and four yards and two

1284
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 8: touchdowns and the Giants are beating the Commanders for zero

1285
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 8: about thirty seconds to go in the first half. The

1286
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 8: Bills have a yet to score a touchdown in the

1287
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 8: first half. Josh Allen was picked off in his first

1288
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 8: pass of the game. He is nine of sixteen for

1289
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 8: ninety nine yards one interception, and the Patriots are beating

1290
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 8: the Bills thirteen threat.

1291
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 9: The Colts have.

1292
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 8: Taken the lead over the Browns twenty one seventeen, less

1293
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 8: than two minutes to go in the first half, and

1294
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 8: the Raiders have a field goal. But it's the Bears

1295
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 8: who are on top fourteen to three. It is halftime

1296
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 8: in this one.

1297
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 9: Man just put me in a sad mood over here.

1298
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: Now, Chargers aren't even playing Yeah, yeah, Why is.

1299
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 5: She catching streets? Why the Chargers got right?

1300
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well, they're gonna they're gonna be playing

1301
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Speaker 2: here shortly on the road against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Monsey, Thank you very much.

1303
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 9: We see Taylor Swift. That's the question.

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01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 5: Yea, thank you. I'm keeping the main thing. The main

1305
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 5: thing is scene.

1306
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: To get through the show without mentioning her name.

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01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: Oh, mention your name.

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01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 5: This is sports talk radio, Steve.

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01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: You a point, Whift, You know we do not anyway,

1310
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: So Chargers and Chiefs. I want to stay with this

1311
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: one for a moment to the annoyance of Moncey here, yeah,

1312
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: but instead.

1313
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 4: Of actually, I do like annoying Moncey say this.

1314
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: But let's talk about the Chiefs for a second.

1315
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 5: Here.

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01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: Rich offense is not doing well. They pick up Nicole

1317
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: Hardman to bring him back. Their wide receivers through the

1318
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: first six games have two touchdown receptions. Yeah, and Patrick

1319
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 2: mahomes passer rating is in the middle of the pack.

1320
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: So their offense isn't getting it done. Their defense has

1321
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: played well, which is a big reason why they're at

1322
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 2: five and one. A year ago, I was predicting, with

1323
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: the absence of Tyreek Hill that they were going to

1324
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: take a big step backwards. They struggled a little bit

1325
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: early on and then really hit their stride and never

1326
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: looked back all the way to a Super Bowl championship.

1327
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: Is it a similar scenario this year or are some

1328
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: of the missing pieces going to have a bigger effect

1329
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: on this offense as it progresses.

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01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 4: Boy, I gotta tell you, I think he will rebound.

1331
01:06:54,880 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 4: I think that Patrick Mahomes will overcome whatever are affecting

1332
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 4: this offense, whether it be in experience, from the receivers

1333
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: having a hard time catching up with the pace of

1334
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: this offense. You know, Maggie was able to jump in

1335
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 4: after being fired as a head coach in Chicago and

1336
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 4: get back to right where he started from.

1337
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 5: With Patrick Mahomes. But it is a different voice.

1338
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 4: He had been working for years with Eric b Enemy

1339
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 4: and that changes things on a daily basis, hearing something

1340
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 4: through the lens and the perspective of one coordinator and

1341
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: then going to a different oc after that time. So

1342
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 4: there's some changes, new personnel, and I think it's having

1343
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 4: an early effect on their season record wise, still in

1344
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 4: great shape and their competition this week with an injured

1345
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert trying to play through that hand injury on

1346
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 4: his non throwing side, I think had a significant effect

1347
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 4: on his play last week. I think it'll continue this week.

1348
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 4: It's very difficult to throw with the same level of

1349
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 4: confidence in the pocket if you're Justin Herbert and you're

1350
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 4: worried about bracing yourself because you you're injured. On the

1351
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 4: other side, also, it avails you to bigger hits and

1352
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: bigger injury when you're taking to the ground. So I

1353
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 4: think this is this is most likely a win for

1354
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 4: the Chiefs. Uh. This is going to continue being a

1355
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 4: season where the Chiefs have their struggles, but more successes

1356
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 4: than struggles, and we'll see if they can they can

1357
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 4: play catch up a little bit here in the middle

1358
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 4: of the season, getting these receivers on the same page

1359
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 4: as Patrick Mahomes, because we know what it looks like

1360
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 4: when it's really good.

1361
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 5: It hasn't been really good yet this season for Kansas City.

1362
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: Now I want to say something positive for Monci about

1363
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: these Chargers. And I know I'm hypercritical at Chargers. It's personal.

1364
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: I make it very clear, it's very personal with me

1365
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 2: and Dean Spanos. This goes back over thirty years, so

1366
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let go of that.

1367
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 3: But if you look a and Rich is well aware

1368
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: of this as well.

1369
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 4: But anyway, you know what, we go charging to couples

1370
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 4: therapy together and for years and this comes up once

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: a week.

1372
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: You have to understand I have to restrain myself to

1373
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: reveal the real Dean Spanos to the world. Okay, I

1374
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: just I do that for my own sake. But if

1375
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: you look at the Chargers remaining schedule after this road

1376
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: game against the Chiefs, their last five road games are

1377
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 2: against the Jets, the Packers, the Patriots, the Raiders and

1378
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: the Broncos. All of those are winnable games. Yes, on

1379
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: the road. Now essentially they play on the road every

1380
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: game because they are always forced to go to silent counts,

1381
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: even at Sofi Stadium, but even their home games. Bears, Lions, Ravens, tough, Broncos,

1382
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: Bill's Chiefs. So I mean, if you look at this schedule,

1383
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: there's only like three maybe four games where you say,

1384
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 2: all right, they'll probably be an underdog that puts them

1385
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: at ten and seven. Yeah, and that probably gets them

1386
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: into the postseason. I did want to ask you, though,

1387
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: Rich about Justin Herbert. And I'm a Herbert fan like

1388
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: every one else, because he can make some amazing throws.

1389
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: But he's had a couple of games now where he's

1390
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: had a chance to tie a game or pull a

1391
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: game out in the fourth quarter in he has failed

1392
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: to deliver in the end.

1393
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 5: Well, hang on, hang on, hang on.

1394
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 4: Look, I think that Justin Herbert to a greater extent

1395
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 4: will we'll hear more of this. And it's unfortunate because

1396
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert is the type of player and quarterback who's

1397
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 4: actually done more for his franchise than his franchise has

1398
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 4: done for him. Think about the coaches he's been surrounded

1399
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 4: by so far early in his career.

1400
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: Are brought in Kellen Moore?

1401
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, are are we huge believers in kell

1402
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 4: Moore after what we saw in Dallas?

1403
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 10: Well?

1404
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: I have the thing about it is, I haven't seen

1405
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: a lot of difference in their offense from what we

1406
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: saw a year ago.

1407
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: Look, I think I do believe that he is he's

1408
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 4: better suited to work with Justin Herbert and Joe Lombardi.

1409
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 4: Will I like the offense better. I'll admit all of that.

1410
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 4: And I do think that they've had some issues offensively

1411
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 4: this year with Eckeler starting the season injured with the

1412
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 4: hammy and obviously the injury they sustained to Mike White,

1413
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 4: the injury that Justin Herbert just had to his non

1414
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 4: throwing hand. I mean, there's been issues offensively. And it's

1415
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 4: like this every year with the Chargers. You go into

1416
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,839
Speaker 4: the preseason, you think this team has a super Bowl roster,

1417
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 4: and then the injury bug bites them every single year,

1418
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 4: and it's been no different this year at the start

1419
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: of the season. So with that, put that on the

1420
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 4: side burner for a second and just focus on Justin

1421
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 4: Herbert and some of the criticism he's received over the

1422
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 4: past two seasons. Last year he's a social media quarterback.

1423
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 4: This year he folds in the big moments in the

1424
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 4: big games. Okay, well, if he were playing I don't

1425
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 4: know for Pete Carroll, or if you're playing for Andy

1426
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 4: Reid or Doug Peterson down in Jacksonville, he have more success.

1427
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 4: If you're playing for Bill Belichick, you know Billy O'Brien

1428
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: as his offensive coordinator. Would he have more success if

1429
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 4: he was playing for Brian Dabole in New York with

1430
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 4: the Giants now granted, in front of that or behind

1431
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 4: that offensive line, don't think anybody will have success, but

1432
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 4: would look better with better coaching. My argument is, yeah,

1433
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 4: I think for as much criticism as you can lay

1434
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 4: at the feet of Justin Herbert, even more needs to

1435
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,879
Speaker 4: be piled to top Brandon Staley. He has wasted, wasted

1436
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 4: now years of Justin Herbert's ability to be one of

1437
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 4: the top quarterbacks in this game. And I'll pull no punches.

1438
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 4: I think he's a poor decision maker. I don't think

1439
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 4: from a culture building standpoint, he's done a great job.

1440
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 4: He's done an admirable job saving himself from this team

1441
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 4: turning on him. So I'll say that, but if I

1442
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 4: were a player for Brandon Staley, the amount of times

1443
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 4: that he's had gaffs and crucial moments making decisions on

1444
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 4: fourth down conversions and two point decision making, he wouldn't

1445
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 4: have my trust.

1446
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: By the way and the way the Charger organization runs.

1447
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 2: Even if this would be a non playoff losing season

1448
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: for the Chargers, Brandon Staley would be back next year.

1449
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: Same thing. Like his predecessors Mike McCoy and Anthony Lynn.

1450
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: Why because they have a contract. They don't eat contracts.

1451
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: And Tom Telesco, their general managers, in his eleventh season,

1452
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: is yet to produce a division title. Bills y the

1453
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: way of a second goal in New England's eight yard line.

1454
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure they got the Riot Act read to them

1455
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: at halftime after a dismal offensive first half.

1456
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: This is a good Patriots defense.

1457
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: You know, Belichick is always ready to go, especially against

1458
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: the division rival that he knows well. But the Bills

1459
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: are knocking on the door. Third and goal at the

1460
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: Pats eight yard line.

1461
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 5: It's a good Patriots defense.

1462
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 4: However, they've given up boatloads and boatloads of points. Over

1463
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 4: the past three weeks, thirty eight points in a loss

1464
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 4: thirty eight three to the Cowboys, thirty four points in

1465
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 4: a loss thirty four to nothing to the Saints.

1466
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 3: By a division rival. You know them a little bit better.

1467
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 4: Oh no, there's no question. But I mean I'm used

1468
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 4: to saying that too, Steve. I mean, my knee jerk

1469
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 4: reaction was to agree with you. This season though it

1470
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,480
Speaker 4: has been a bumpy ride defensively for the Patriots.

1471
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: Well, they're tightening up right now. So it's a third

1472
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: and goal right now at the eight yard line. Let's

1473
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: keep an eye here on the Bills as they try

1474
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: to get the ball in the end zone. Quick patch

1475
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: by Josh Allen, and that is a touchdown, touchdown Bills,

1476
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 2: So the Bills get on the board. Will continue on

1477
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: much more coming up. Second half's underway. This is Fox

1478
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio Taylor.

1479
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: Over center play fake fack.

1480
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 6: Here's the snat looking to his left, has cooked out

1481
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 6: of the backfield and reaches for the pipeline.

1482
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 5: It's a touchdown.

1483
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 14: The cook has found the kitchen and the recipe on

1484
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 14: that touchdown spicy.

1485
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:57,879
Speaker 2: That's WGR five point fifteen Bills Radio Network. Nice calls

1486
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: the Bills try to get back in this game. Trelly

1487
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: and the Patriots thirteen to ten eight minutes ago in

1488
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: the third quarter.

1489
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 5: Wow, how about that? I mean, I mean, that is

1490
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 5: that's how you do it right there.

1491
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: That is that's covering all the bases. By the way,

1492
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live

1493
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studio Steve Harbin and

1494
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: Rich Armberger serving you up a little turnaround in this

1495
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: Colts Browns game. It looked like the Colts are going

1496
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: to go into the half with a lead. Instead, the

1497
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: Browns recover a fumble in the end zone for a

1498
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: score and they get a fifty four yard field goal.

1499
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: So the Browns lead the Colts twenty seven to twenty one.

1500
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: To Shaun Watson out of this game, at least for now.

1501
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 5: PJ.

1502
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: Walker came in to relieve him after a Watson injury.

1503
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 2: Guard to Minshew has played well for the Colts, but

1504
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: after again the lowest scoring week in the NFL in

1505
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 2: nearly a decade, we're getting some points today. So Brown's

1506
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: lead the Colts twenty seven twenty one, and I want

1507
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: to help that half.

1508
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 4: I want to hover on decision making for a second.

1509
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: So Cleveland's trailing on the road seventeen to twenty one.

1510
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 4: They're facing a fourth and four at the Indianapolis forty

1511
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 4: three yard line. Now, there are coaches in the National

1512
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 4: Football League who will go for that. They just will,

1513
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: They just will, you know, because they're like, Oh, we're

1514
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 4: on their side of the field and it's fourth and

1515
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 4: four and there's only a minute fifty seven left in

1516
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 4: the half and we're trailing and we're on the road.

1517
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: But the Browns trust their defense, so their punter kicks

1518
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 4: it thirty two yards and it is fair caught at

1519
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,919
Speaker 4: the eleven yard line. Indianapolis two plays later, fumbles it,

1520
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 4: it's recovered for a touchdown. Browns go up twenty four

1521
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 4: to twenty one. Now, yes, is there an argument to

1522
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 4: be made for being aggressive on fourth down and keeping

1523
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 4: your offense on the field and trusting your offense and

1524
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 4: extending drives.

1525
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 5: Of course there is.

1526
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 4: And I've been a part of offensive football teams where

1527
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 4: we would be pissed if we didn't get an opportunity

1528
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 4: to convert a fourth and two in a situation like that.

1529
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,440
Speaker 4: But there are coaches who take way too many gambles

1530
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 4: who don't understand the flow of the game. Who aren't

1531
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 4: listening to the environment, aren't understanding what's working for them.

1532
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 4: Great decision by Kevin Stefanski. They're trusting his defense and

1533
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 4: he was rewarded by taking the lead at halftime.

1534
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: Well, we're hearing an epidemic of this comment when these

1535
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: fourth down let's go for a plays fail. We were

1536
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: confident in the call, we just didn't execute, exactly.

1537
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: We hear this over and over again.

1538
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: We were confident in the call that the play that

1539
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: we called, we just didn't execute. And I mean, you

1540
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: played for a coach Mike McCoy who was so notorious

1541
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: when you guys would lose to literally say we believed

1542
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: in our game plan. We had the right game plan.

1543
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: We just didn't execute.

1544
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 5: Ye.

1545
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, you didn't have the right game plan,

1546
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: because if your team is not able to execute the

1547
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: game plan, then it wasn't the right game plan.

1548
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1549
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 3: See, that's the whole point.

1550
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 2: In other words, you could say it was the right play,

1551
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 2: we didn't execute. Well, how about the fact that you

1552
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: call a play that was difficult to execute.

1553
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 4: I steve your lips to God's ears. I think that

1554
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 4: there are a lot of offensive coordinators. A lot of

1555
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: head coaches who get a little too high on their

1556
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 4: own so they just think that they're outsmarting the room.

1557
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: And guess what you literally are because you are smarter

1558
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 4: in many cases than your players. There are players in

1559
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 4: that room who are never going to understand the game

1560
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 4: with such a nuanced perspective that you have being a

1561
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 4: coach for as long.

1562
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 5: As you've coached.

1563
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 4: So what is what needs to be conveyed conveyed to

1564
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 4: players is the effectively the points of emphasis, Like what

1565
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 4: are the most important three pieces of this play that

1566
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 4: I need to convey to my players or this situation

1567
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 4: that I need to convey to my players, or this

1568
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 4: defensive scheme or this coverage concept or or this blitz

1569
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 4: look like, what do I need to comby if you

1570
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 4: can put if you can break it down into three

1571
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 4: parts and have it be really really understandable right and

1572
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,959
Speaker 4: have your players walk away with maybe not as nuanced

1573
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 4: a perspective as you have as a coach, but enough

1574
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 4: to execute well, then you've successfully.

1575
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 5: Done your job.

1576
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 4: If your players aren't executing though, I mean you have

1577
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 4: to turn, you have to look at the mirror.

1578
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 2: You have to actually have plays or a game plan

1579
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: that they can execute exactly. That's the secret of successful coaches,

1580
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: all right. The Lions had a fourth in goal, they

1581
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 2: went for it, and no, it is still twenty eight

1582
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 2: to nothing. Ravens nine and a half minutes to go

1583
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 2: in the third quarter in that game. The Falcons right

1584
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: now ten ten with the Bucks nine minutes to go

1585
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 2: in the third, have a third and eight at Tampa's

1586
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: fourteen yard line, and the Commanders trying to get back

1587
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: in this game. Second goal at the Giants four, trailing

1588
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: fourteen nothing. We got a whole lot more coming up.

1589
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: Keep it right here. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

1590
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,040
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Speaker 2: Hal's under center on second and goal at the four handoff,

1595
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: f rob cuts back into the ed zone. Touch out,

1596
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: touch out, Watch again the four yard run by Brian Robinson.

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Speaker 2: That's big one hundred Commanders Radio Network. Commanders getting right

1598
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 2: back in this game. Still trailing the Giants by score

1599
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Speaker 2: of fourteen to seven, eight and a half minutes to

1600
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Speaker 2: go in that third quarter. This is Fox Sports Red

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Speaker 2: thirty five to nothing. Lamar Jackson is nineteen of twenty three,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and forty three yards, three touchdowns, no picks.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to do the math for you. That

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Speaker 2: is a perfect passer rating of one fifty eight point

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Speaker 2: three and a game that has gotten away from the

1612
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: Lions from the opening gun continues to get worse and

1613
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: worse and worse. And again this is the NFL, right,

1614
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: I trumpet the idea. There's no style points really, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's very simple. It's a wornl one or the other,

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Speaker 2: and then you move on to the next game. I

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01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: just be curious, though, with everything going so well for

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01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: this Lions team, what will be the approach for Dan

1619
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 2: Campbell as they get ready for next week after this

1620
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: complete beatdown at the hands of the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you look forward in the season and you

1622
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 4: don't look back, They're going to face the Raiders at home,

1623
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 4: which you know, given the way the Raiders are struggling

1624
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 4: right now against the Chicago Bears, I don't think you're

1625
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 4: gonna look at that and say, hey, you know, that's

1626
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 4: an insurmountable team to beat. You go on the road

1627
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 4: to the Chargers, who may be healthier when you visit

1628
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 4: with them, but they've they've had some issues offensively that

1629
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 4: they're still smarting from. You face the Bears, after that,

1630
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 4: you get to host them, and then you host the Packers.

1631
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 4: Look nobody in the NFC North and especially the Vikings,

1632
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 4: but the Bears, the Packers scare you if you're the

1633
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions. And with those two AFC Conference games, you know,

1634
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 4: playing the Raiders and the Chargers in consecutive weeks here

1635
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 4: after the Ravens, I don't necessarily see how the Ravens

1636
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: can't pull off four and oh through those four games,

1637
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 4: especially the way they started their season the win on

1638
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 4: the road against the Chiefs. They beat the Falcons, the Packers,

1639
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 4: the Panthers, the Bucks already this season lost to the Seahawks,

1640
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 4: but even that could have been a win.

1641
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 5: That was a narrow loss.

1642
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 4: So again, if you allow a team to beat you twice,

1643
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 4: it is possible. We've seen that many times in the

1644
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: National Football League. But if you just encapsulate this, you say, hey,

1645
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 4: we're gonna burn the film. We're not the team that

1646
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 4: got beat by the Baltimore Ravens. You have an opportunity

1647
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: to continue this streak of success in Detroit.

1648
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: We have a mystery going on in the Falcons Buccaneers game.

1649
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 2: It's ten ten right now, seven and a half minutes

1650
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 2: to go in the third quarter. Bijon Robinson, Yeah, did

1651
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: not start the game. He was not on any injury

1652
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 2: report nothing.

1653
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 5: Hmmm.

1654
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 3: So you know, this is a league that is.

1655
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: Very big on being fully transparent with injury reports because

1656
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: again they're fully in bed now with legalized gambling. So

1657
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 2: there were no injury reports about Bejon Robinson. Well, hey,

1658
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 2: did not start the game. He has no touches in

1659
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: the game.

1660
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 5: No, no, he's played.

1661
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 4: He has no touches, but he's played six snaps.

1662
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so no in on the.

1663
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 15: Field here, guys. Christina Pink, the Fox sideline reporter, said

1664
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 15: that Arthur Smith said that Bejon Robinson is quote just

1665
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 15: not feeling all that great. So that has so that

1666
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 15: is expected to be used much, if at all.

1667
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 2: So I know for gambling purposes. I mean, Bjon Robinson

1668
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: is the real deal. He has lived up to the

1669
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,839
Speaker 2: hype as a rookie.

1670
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean he he.

1671
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: Has appeared in the game Masin touched the ball.

1672
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 4: Maybe it was a little bit of a celebration last

1673
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 4: a huge win over the Houston Cougars, who had control

1674
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 4: of that game.

1675
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 5: At the end of the first half.

1676
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been celebrating a huge win over a in

1677
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 4: state rival last night.

1678
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 5: Who knows the Longhorns Preva.

1679
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: The Bills just went for it on a fourth and

1680
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: one play at the New England forty three yard line

1681
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 2: to end the third quarter, and they get the first down.

1682
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: So the Bill's trailing sixteen to ten now, but first

1683
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: and ten at New Orleans forty one yard line. Meanwhile,

1684
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: Chris our Resident, a Lions fan who's had just the

1685
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 2: longest of days, I saw there's a player down on

1686
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: the field. Do you have an update a Lion.

1687
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be Mohammed Ibrahim, the Minnesota player who's

1688
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: kind of the running back.

1689
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1690
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: He was picked up as an undrafted free agent rookie

1691
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: after the NFL Draft. Here he's been on and off.

1692
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: He had another injury to start the year. He came

1693
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: back with the Lions, and yeah, it looks like he

1694
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: is down and going to be coming out of the

1695
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: game again. Just if you know anything about his Minnesota career,

1696
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: just completely rough rough time for him.

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01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some great I mean, he was an

1698
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: All American. I mean he had some great days at

1699
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: the University of Minnesota. Meanwhile, Brian Hoyer, and let's explain

1700
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: again how long Brian Hoyer has been in the league.

1701
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: So rich, you came up with Brian Horrier, same draft

1702
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: rookies together with the New England franchise. You played your

1703
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: last down in the NFL nine years ago. Uh, let

1704
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: me think about twenty fourteen. Yeah, nine years ago. Now,

1705
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: nine years ago you played your last down in the NFL.

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01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 3: And he's the starting quarterback today for the Raiders.

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01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: This is a fifteen year professional football career. He's bounced

1709
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 4: around in quarterback rooms, team to team to team, as

1710
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 4: many opportunities to start, whether it be to start seasons

1711
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 4: or as a backup, getting foisted into action like the

1712
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 4: cases today.

1713
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 5: And Josh McDaniels obviously trusts him.

1714
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 4: It's the reason why he's on the team in the

1715
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 4: first place, backing up Jimmy Garoppolo.

1716
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 2: Just for the record, this is his forty first career

1717
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: start in the NFL. His best run was a Cleveland

1718
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: He had a ten and six record there. He has

1719
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: actually started games with New England, Arizona, Chicago, Houston, Indy.

1720
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: The is it forty nine ers?

1721
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1722
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now with the Raiders.

1723
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: I mean, there aren't a lot of guys that can

1724
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 2: say they've actually started games, started games with seven different franchises.

1725
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 5: Well, it goes to show.

1726
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: You, because look, Brian Hoyer, is he ever going to

1727
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 4: be a constant starter in this league. No, But it

1728
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 4: goes to show you how important intelligence is in this

1729
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 4: In this league, they these coaches, these offensive coordinators, they

1730
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 4: want to be surrounded by people who get it.

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01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Actually, let me update the Raiders. This first start with

1732
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: the Raiders. This is the eighth team now that he

1733
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 2: has started at least one game for.

1734
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Speaker 4: And why is that important as a backup quarterback? Well,

1735
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 4: obviously a maybe. Most importantly maybe is so that if

1736
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 4: a starter gets hurt, you could walk in the game

1737
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 4: and obviously the don't come off. Okay, So that's the

1738
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 4: obvious side of it. The not so obvious side of

1739
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 4: it is backup quarterbacks many time really helped the offense

1740
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 4: in ways that people don't really know or understand. They

1741
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: see things from the sideline that certain times coaches don't

1742
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 4: even see, ways defenses are approaching route concepts, helping out

1743
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 4: a quarterback through certain progressions. You know, they're seeing things

1744
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 4: through the lens of hey, if I were out there,

1745
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 4: what would I do? And if they're good communicators and

1746
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 4: they were at one point in their career, continue to

1747
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 4: be good leaders, and they can help a starting quarterback.

1748
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 4: It's like having another coach on staff. And that's what

1749
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 4: Brian Horrier has done the majority of his career. Has

1750
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 4: helped the starting quarterback prepare for their game day and

1751
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 4: to lend them advice when they get to the sideline,

1752
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 4: whether they're older than he is, more experienced, or younger.

1753
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 4: That's the reason why he's been around the league for

1754
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 4: fifteen years. That's the reason why a lot of these

1755
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 4: guys to Rod Taylor, been around the league, bouncing round,

1756
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 4: starting different places for years and years. He's getting a

1757
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 4: start today for the Giants. They're leading fourteen to seven

1758
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 4: right now over the Commanders. That's the reason why guys

1759
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 4: like Gino Smith bounce around the league for years and years,

1760
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 4: and he's having a resurgence with the Seahawks. Just signed

1761
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 4: a big contract over the offseason as a result.

1762
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: All Right, So the Bills, as we mentioned, had the

1763
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: ball in New England territory.

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Speaker 3: They still do.

1765
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: They are facing a fourth and two right now at

1766
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 2: the New England thirty three yard line, and they are

1767
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: going to go for it. New England leads this game

1768
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: sixteen to ten, fourteen minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

1769
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Josh Allen looking around, nobody's open, Nobody's open. He throws

1770
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: the ball and it's knocked away by New England. Wowees,

1771
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 2: nice play by the Pats secondary. So Buffalo turns the

1772
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: ball over on downs and the Patriots take over with

1773
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: a sixteen to ten lead. I saw.

1774
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't know who it was going to embarrass him.

1775
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 2: That Josh Allen this week, going into this week is

1776
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 2: the number one quarterback in this league. Now, I don't

1777
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 2: know what that's based on. It's certainly not his performance

1778
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: on the field this year. As you and I have

1779
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: mentioned frequently over the last couple of years without Brian Dable,

1780
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: where his stock just was skyrocketing. He looks ordinary I

1781
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: mean today's a prime example. Nineteen of thirty one, one

1782
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five yards, one touchdown, one pick, passer

1783
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: rating of seventy five. He has been outplayed by mac Jones.

1784
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 4: He's been struggling this season. And I don't think it's

1785
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,640
Speaker 4: every game. I don't think it's a consistent struggle. But

1786
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 4: against better defenses especially, and frankly sometimes not there are

1787
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 4: moments where I'm just like, he looks lost. You know,

1788
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 4: I heard an interesting commentary that I believe in that

1789
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 4: if you want to know whether or not a quarterback

1790
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 4: trusts a play, look at his lower body. Look at

1791
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 4: his lower body to see if he's comfortable running that play.

1792
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 4: A passing play. Obviously, you know the quarterback who's confident

1793
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 4: in a play, a route concept, a blocking scheme, he's

1794
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 4: going to catch the football from the center if he's

1795
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 4: in gun or you know, going to his drop from

1796
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 4: under center, and he's going to step up, climb the

1797
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 4: pocket with confidence, and he's going to step into his

1798
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 4: throat and deliver it with accuracy and timing.

1799
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 5: When he's not confident, you see happy feet.

1800
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 4: You see a little bit of a disengagement between the

1801
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 4: upper body and the lower body. You see his feet chopping,

1802
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,839
Speaker 4: and you see him moving around erradically in the pocket

1803
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,440
Speaker 4: if he's not sure.

1804
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 5: Of the play, especially the play call.

1805
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 4: Against the defense he's seeing, or if they didn't work

1806
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 4: on it enough at practice. And I see this all

1807
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 4: the time from Josh Allen, I see it all the time.

1808
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 4: Just doesn't look comfortable running this offense.

1809
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,000
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1815
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1816
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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 12: Wa to throw on second and goal halftime slaves at

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Speaker 12: back of.

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Speaker 2: The end zone, touchdown Ravens Mark Andrews and the back

1820
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Speaker 2: of the end zone and the Ravens are back on

1821
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Speaker 2: the scoreboard. Ninety eight Rock Ravens Radio Network. It has

1822
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 2: been a day for the Ravens thirty five to nothing

1823
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: over the Lions, two minutes to go in the third quarter,

1824
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 2: and that game. Welcome in if you have just joining

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Speaker 2: us right now. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio

1826
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger. We are live from the

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Speaker 2: Ti rack dot Com studios. Meanwhile, we have the Patriots

1828
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,759
Speaker 2: on the move again after they stopped Buffalo on downs.

1829
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: The Patriots lead Buffalo sixteen to ten. They now have

1830
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: a second in goal.

1831
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 5: By the way.

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01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 2: With a win today, Bill Belichick will join Don Sula

1833
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 2: and George Hallis as the only coaches ever to win

1834
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 2: three hundred regular season games in their coaching career. I

1835
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: have a quick question though, for you. The only other

1836
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,919
Speaker 2: coaches with over two hundred wins are Andy Reid, Tom Landry,

1837
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 2: Curley Lambeau and Marty Schottenheer touchdown Patriots. Wow, touchdown Patriots.

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01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 3: So it's been a day.

1839
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 2: And Mac Jones's look at Kendrick Barne with the touchdown

1840
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 2: there on the touchdown reception, so New England extending their lead.

1841
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 2: But I always look back at Marty Schottenheimer and wonder

1842
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: where's his place in football history. You'll only have seven

1843
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 2: coaches ever with two hundred regular season wins, but his

1844
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: postseason record was five and thirteen. He never even got

1845
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 2: a team to the Super Bowl. You still put him

1846
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. What do you how do

1847
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: you feel about regular season success when it's weighed against

1848
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 2: postseason failure.

1849
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 4: Well, here's my problem is anybody who goes, hey, yeah,

1850
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 4: Marty Schoenheimer failure in the postseason, It's like, yeah, okay, okay, yeah,

1851
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 4: it didn't have a great record in the postseason. But

1852
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 4: can you write the history of the game. This is

1853
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 4: actually the criteria that you've given me.

1854
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: Yes, can you write the history of a game without

1855
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 2: mentioning this person?

1856
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So let's go back and look at maybe maybe

1857
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 4: some of the impact Marty Schannenheimer has had on pro football.

1858
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 4: On his coaching tree, there's Bill Cower, who's a Hall

1859
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 4: of Famer.

1860
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 5: Yep.

1861
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 4: There's Tony Dungee, yep. There's Bruce arians super Bowl winning coach,

1862
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:53,879
Speaker 4: Herman Edwards, Mike McCarthy, Hugh Jackson, Tony Sperano, Cam Cameron.

1863
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 4: I mean, the list goes on.

1864
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Speaker 5: This guy.

1865
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 4: His place in football all history is obscenely important.

1866
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 2: How about the fact that his final seasons a head coach,

1867
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 2: he was fourteen and two.

1868
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, not bad, not bad?

1869
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean, and a flute play costs a Charger team

1870
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 2: that that season was the best team in the NFL.

1871
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 5: Oh, there was no question.

1872
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 2: And they had a Hall of Fame MVP season thirty

1873
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 2: one touchdowns for la Danian Thomason. Everyone ever going to

1874
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 2: break that record thirty one touchdowns in a season for.

1875
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 4: A running back? Probably not not anymore. I mean think

1876
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 4: about it, like it well.

1877
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 2: I mean again, anybody, you're never going to see a

1878
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 2: receiver catch thirty one touchdown passes, are you?

1879
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 5: Well?

1880
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 2: Thirty one Randy Moss had twenty twenty twenty two.

1881
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 5: I mean he caught a whole bunch.

1882
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well let me let me.

1883
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 5: Look up with that. What was it tie for third

1884
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 5: in Patriots history. Let's see.

1885
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he had fifty over his time with

1886
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 4: the Patriots, but he had that one season.

1887
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 5: I forget how many it comes.

1888
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 3: We're talking about it.

1889
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 2: No, no, But I mean the bottom line is I

1890
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: agree that. I mean, again, that's that's a short list.

1891
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 2: You know obviously when you talk about Shula, Hallis, Belichick, Reed, Landry,

1892
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: and Lambeau, and then your name's on that list.

1893
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 5: Okay, twenty three receiving.

1894
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 2: Touchdown, that's that's a long way from thirty one.

1895
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking about talking about anymore. Here's my

1896
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 4: point though, No, I don't think that. I don't think

1897
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 4: any records untouchable. But at the same token, I will

1898
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 4: say having records still stand from a time period that was.

1899
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 3: Now what seventeen years ago, almost.

1900
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 5: Two decades ago.

1901
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Martin Schanheimer, his place in history is cemented.

1902
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 5: In my mind, I agree with you.

1903
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 2: I think he should get more more of a look,

1904
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 2: certainly for his Hall of Fame status. Well, I think

1905
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 2: Belichick's got a ticket for the Hall of Fame, and

1906
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 2: this is impressive papers by a way, he went for two,

1907
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 2: did not get it, but still lead the Bills by

1908
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 2: a score of twenty two to ten, and again almost

1909
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 2: week by week now, Rich, I've been looking and asking you,

1910
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 2: I've been asking he from Salam about where we stand

1911
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 2: with power rankings and my overview so far of this

1912
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: NFL season, especially what happened a week ago to both

1913
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 2: the Eagles and the forty nine ers as they get

1914
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 2: their first losses of the season. You can call it parody.

1915
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different ways to phrase it. But

1916
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 2: here's what I'm looking at. I just don't see, and

1917
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 2: we were talking about the forty nine ers, might be

1918
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 2: that team a week ago. But Deebo Samuel's out, now

1919
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 2: McCaffrey's out, and without them, suddenly brock Purty showed that Yeah,

1920
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: bad weather, situation, good defense, missing some weapons, he could

1921
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: look a little ordinary at the best. I just don't

1922
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 2: see any runaway, super talented team this week.

1923
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 5: I agree.

1924
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 2: In the National Football League, I agree.

1925
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 4: With you, And honestly, even as good as the San

1926
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers have looked, I am aware that

1927
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 4: Brock Party is still a relatively untested quarterbacking commodity at

1928
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 4: at quarterback for the San Francisco forty nine ers.

1929
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 2: So, by the way, did you hear the latest rumors?

1930
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 2: What do you got the forty nine ers starting quarterback

1931
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 2: next year? Kirk Cousins?

1932
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 5: Interesting?

1933
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 2: Now, if you're if brock Purty, I know he does.

1934
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 2: If Brock Party suddenly goes a little sideways, okay, they

1935
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of money invested him, obviously, And

1936
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 2: you do know there's a history there with Kyle Shanahan

1937
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins going back to the Washington days. What

1938
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:48,759
Speaker 2: do you think?

1939
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 4: Well, what I think is only if you need to

1940
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 4: if Brock Party is the answer to this question, Well,

1941
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 4: then you continue to save money, and that's a big

1942
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 4: deal when you're keep being a roster like San Francisco

1943
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 4: has together. I mean, Kirk Cousins won't be cheap and

1944
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,560
Speaker 4: he's gonna ask for all of the money to be guaranteed,

1945
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 4: like every contract he signed for the last three So

1946
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 4: you're going to be parting with some cash if you

1947
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 4: are going to sign Kirk Cousins.

1948
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,799
Speaker 5: In terms of your power ranking conversation, I'll.

1949
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 4: Say this, I still have the San Francisco forty nine ers,

1950
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 4: even in spite of the loss, on top of the

1951
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 4: list because what brock Party was able to do it

1952
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 4: then the game is still get the forty nine ers

1953
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 4: in position to win with all the issues they had

1954
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 4: throughout the game, the injuries. He was under more duressed

1955
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 4: than normal because Trent Williams was injured as well, missing

1956
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 4: two key players obviously offensively skilled position players. He got

1957
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 4: them within whatever it was forty yards forty five yards

1958
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 4: for Jake Moody to try at tempt the field goal,

1959
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 4: which he missed. So I look at the forty nine

1960
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 4: ers as potentially, or I shouldn't even say potentially, there's

1961
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 4: still my top team right behind them. Chiefs right behind

1962
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 4: them Lions, although they're catching a beating right now in Baltimore.

1963
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 2: They are finally on the board. Jamir Gibbs touchdown.

1964
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 5: Wow, back is on.

1965
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 2: By the way, that would be a record. No team's

1966
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 2: ever been down thirty five and won a NFL game.

1967
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of teams on a move, the

1968
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 2: Colts right now trailing the Browns thirty to twenty one. This,

1969
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: of course is the much anticipated shootout between Gardner Minshew

1970
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 2: and PJ.

1971
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 3: Walker. Walker in for the injured Deshaun Watson today.

1972
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: But the Colts have a second and four at the

1973
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 2: Cleveland five yard line. For some reason, while we're well

1974
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter most of these games, there's six

1975
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 2: minutes to go in.

1976
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 3: The third quarter in this game.

1977
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going at a snails pace and we got

1978
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 2: touchdown Colts.

1979
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 3: So there it is right there.

1980
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 2: That was a run by Jonathan Taylor, remember him, I

1981
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 2: got They paid all that huge money too, So Jonathan

1982
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 2: Taylor getting into the end zone for the Colts today.

1983
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 2: By the way, before that carry fourteen carries sixty nine yards.

1984
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 2: Zach Moss twelve carries fifty yards, so they have a

1985
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 2: two edited monster at running back.

1986
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 5: There.

1987
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew, by the way, has two rushing touchdowns. By

1988
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 2: the way, when you have running backs like Jonathan Taylor

1989
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,719
Speaker 2: and Zack Moss and your quarterback keeps calling his own number,

1990
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:24,839
Speaker 2: is that a problem?

1991
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 5: Well, no, obviously not.

1992
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 4: And also I mean it's the style of offense that

1993
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 4: they're running, so the Colts players are used to having

1994
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 4: a mobile quarterback with Anthony Richards and Gardner Minshew is

1995
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 4: an athlete.

1996
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 5: He's a better.

1997
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 4: Passer, I think than an athlete, but he is an athlete,

1998
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 4: and so he can generate some yardage and some scoring

1999
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 4: with his legs as well. He's twelve of eighteen one

2000
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 4: nine two through the air. He that touchdown pass to

2001
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:56,959
Speaker 4: Josh Downs earlier today, also threw a pick. But overall,

2002
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 4: the Colts look strong and probably one of the strongest

2003
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 4: offensive performances against the Cleveland Browns, who have a dominant defense.

2004
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 4: They held the Bengals early in the season, and I

2005
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,839
Speaker 4: understand the Bengals were going through it the calf injury

2006
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow, but they held the Bengals in their

2007
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 4: opener to three points. The Steelers they were able to

2008
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 4: pile them up a little bit on the Browns twenty

2009
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 4: six points in that second game, but held the Titans

2010
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 4: to three points. I mean, there have been moments where

2011
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 4: this team has has been absolutely dominant. Obviously in the

2012
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 4: victory over the forty nine Ers, who looked like world beaters,

2013
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 4: they held them to seventeen points. But today the Colts,

2014
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 4: they've done some really nice things against one of the

2015
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 4: NFL's top defenses, scoring twenty eight.

2016
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

2017
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: And I was trying to make Monzie feel a little

2018
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 2: bit better about the Chargers with the schedule they have

2019
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Remaining's true, so even if they were to stumble, I mean,

2020
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 2: they're obviously a touchdown dog against the Chiefs today.

2021
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: There's still time, yes.

2022
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 9: And they're always in it.

2023
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 2: They're always in Are you a big Brandon Staley fan?

2024
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 5: Now?

2025
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 2: Yesterday from salam came on the air and said he

2026
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: is the absolute worst coach in the NFL, like there's

2027
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 2: not even a second place.

2028
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 9: You know, it's hard, I know it. I know it's

2029
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 9: hard to not blame him for some of the decisions

2030
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:23,919
Speaker 9: that are made in some of the games.

2031
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 8: But there are times when I look at the Chargers

2032
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 8: and I feel like they're just not disciplined.

2033
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 9: And I don't know if it's.

2034
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 3: Well that's a coach as well.

2035
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, what else the game, but they're just

2036
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 9: not they make that's.

2037
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,879
Speaker 3: Part of your job descriptions approach.

2038
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it's I don't.

2039
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 8: I don't feel the way Ephram feels about him, but

2040
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 8: I know.

2041
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 9: It's not my favorite.

2042
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, rich am I right.

2043
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 2: I mean if you have an undisciplined team, yeah, it

2044
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 2: sort of falls on the coach.

2045
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, discipline in all phases of the game, offensively, defensively,

2046
01:43:56,360 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 4: and in the special teams game. You really do you shine?

2047
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 4: You shine the light back on the coaching staff when

2048
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,839
Speaker 4: you see when you see issues in that aspect.

2049
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, so yeah, it sucks. It sucks.

2050
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 8: This morning, Phil Is the NFL Network reported that the

2051
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 8: Patriots and head coach Bill Belichick quietly agreed to a lucrative,

2052
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 8: multi year contract extension.

2053
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 9: And then maybe the Patriots.

2054
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 8: Were like, oh, we have to play well because now

2055
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 8: people know he's not going anywhere and they're beating the Bills.

2056
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 9: But the Bills did just score eight touchdown.

2057
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 8: Patriots, though, are still up twenty two seventeen with about

2058
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 8: five and a half minutes to go in the game.

2059
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 8: The Browns holding on to their two point lead over

2060
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 8: the Colts thirty to twenty eight. They do have the

2061
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 8: ball less than five minutes to go in the third quarter.

2062
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 8: The Raiders they're there, they're participating.

2063
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 9: They hit another.

2064
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 8: Field goal, but the Bears are up twenty four to

2065
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 8: six with about five minutes left in the game. The

2066
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 8: Commanders scored to start the third quarter, and it's been

2067
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 8: quiet for both teams the rest of the way.

2068
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 9: But the Giants are up fourteen to seven. They're about

2069
01:44:58,920 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 9: to start the fourth quarter.

2070
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 8: Talcans have a three point lead, a three point lead

2071
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 8: over the Buccaneers in Tampa, thirteen to ten halfway through.

2072
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 9: The fourth quarter.

2073
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 8: And it is National tight End Day, is what I heard,

2074
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 8: National tight end Day.

2075
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean tight end in terms of the NFL.

2076
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 5: I was going to say, well, ladies and gentlemen, just pushing.

2077
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 5: Some people say I got great.

2078
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 9: Hands, No tight ends as in the NFL.

2079
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 8: So Mark Andrews is clearly celebrating. He already has two

2080
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 8: touchdowns for the Ravens, who have really just been all

2081
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 8: over the Lions. Thirty five six is a score early

2082
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter. Still to come, the Seahawks are

2083
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 8: going to host the Cardinals, and Seattle announced that wide

2084
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 8: receiver DK Metcalf is inactive. The AP College Football Poll

2085
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 8: is out for the week. The top six teams did

2086
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,799
Speaker 8: not move, but Texas moved up one spot to number seven,

2087
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 8: Oregon moved up one spot to number eight. Alabama back

2088
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 8: in the top ten at number nine. Penn State dropped

2089
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 8: three spots to number ten after losing to Ohio State.

2090
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, USC is still ranked.

2091
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 3: I just checked.

2092
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 2: They went from eighteen down to twenty four, use CLA

2093
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 2: leaping over USC, climbing from twenty five to twenty three

2094
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 2: in the latest AP ranking.

2095
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 9: Yes, that's correct. Sorry, I just gave you the top ten. Fine.

2096
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 3: Bye, by the way, rich montse thank you very much.

2097
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 9: Welcome.

2098
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: Did you hear that Michigan is now eight to o

2099
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 2: and they are the first teams since the AP pole

2100
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 2: was introduced in nineteen thirty six, So that's a long

2101
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 2: time ago to start a season eight to o where

2102
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 2: they have scored at least thirty points in every game

2103
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 2: and have given up ten or less points in every game.

2104
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a lot of dominant college football

2105
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 2: teams over the last you know, eighty plus years, but

2106
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 2: they are the first team ever since nineteen thirty six

2107
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 2: to start of season eight to o scoring at least

2108
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: thirty points in every game and giving up ten or

2109
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 2: fewer points in every game.

2110
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2111
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 2: I Meanwhile, they're under investigation for cheating. Now, I got

2112
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 2: into a little of hot water yesterday.

2113
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 5: You did. So.

2114
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,960
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2118
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 2: So Ifanroun and I were talking about cheating and it

2119
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 2: was you know, we're talking about the Astros, you know who,

2120
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 2: there's like a stench on them. A lot of people

2121
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 2: say the same thing about the Patriots because they got

2122
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 2: caught cheating a couple of times. And now this investigation

2123
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 2: about stealing signs with Michigan. Look, I said, this cheating

2124
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 2: goes on at every level of every sport, every sport,

2125
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 2: every level. Like I remember being part of a coaching

2126
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 2: staff with a flight football team and my kids were

2127
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 2: like eight years old and we're trying to you know,

2128
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 2: steal some kind of signs or something like that.

2129
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,959
Speaker 3: It's not that I'm condoning cheating.

2130
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 2: It's to me, though a little bit overplayed when a

2131
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:11,520
Speaker 2: team supposedly gets cock cheating, because to some level, everybody

2132
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 2: is looking for an edge, no matter how they get

2133
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:15,520
Speaker 2: that edge.

2134
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 5: Right right well.

2135
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 4: And also there's there's cheating and then there's gray area,

2136
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 4: and I think there's times where we conflate the two. Now,

2137
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 4: I don't know how in depth this investigation is going

2138
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 4: to go. I think that the NCAA is pissed at

2139
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh for his handling of the the COVID suspension

2140
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 4: recruiting and whatever was the the ineptitude of the Michigan

2141
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,719
Speaker 4: staff to respect the COVID regulations that were in place

2142
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 4: at the time throughout the pandemic. Okay, so they're upset

2143
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 4: with him in the first place. Now we're hearing and

2144
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 4: these are rumors across the internet that opponents of the

2145
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh Michigan Wolverines head coach Ryan Day at Ohio

2146
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 4: State or potentially the Michigan State staff may have alerted

2147
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 4: the NCAA to the misgivings going on in Michigan.

2148
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 5: But you can't tell me that things.

2149
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 4: Like this aren't going on at maybe the majority of

2150
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 4: Power five programs across the country, that they're not sending

2151
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 4: advanced analysts or scouts of some sort or paid interns

2152
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 4: to try to attend these games, and whether they're using

2153
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 4: video footage or they're just writing down what they can

2154
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 4: ascertain from their seats close to the field, or what

2155
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 4: they can hear audibly from the sideline if they're standing

2156
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:58,759
Speaker 4: close enough to a rail somewhere to try to steal

2157
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 4: some of the signal that are used in game.

2158
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 5: Because this happens not only at the collegiate.

2159
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 4: Level, this happens at the NFL level as well. When

2160
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 4: does it tick over from gamesmanship to illegal? That's the

2161
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 4: question that needs to be answered. That's the question that's unclear.

2162
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 4: And we'll find out what level of impropriety occurred here

2163
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 4: with Michigan in the weeks to come.

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01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure all right, Browns Colts, once again, a coach

2165
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 2: has made a decision they could backfire the Browns with

2166
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 2: the lead thirty to twenty eight, they had two to

2167
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 2: eighteen to go in the game, fourth and two at

2168
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 2: the Colts forty one yard line. They decided not to punt.

2169
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 2: They won for a PJ Walker fumbled the snap, it

2170
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 2: was recovered turnover on downs, and now the Colts have

2171
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 2: just completed a deep pass to get themselves well into

2172
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 2: field goal range, trailing by two. So again, fourth and two,

2173
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 2: you're at the Colts forty one yard line. You could

2174
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 2: try to punt the ball away forced in the go

2175
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 2: length of the field to get into field goal position.

2176
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 2: You go for it, you fail, and now the Colts

2177
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 2: are basically running down the clock for what should be

2178
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 2: a chip shot field goal to steal this game from

2179
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns.

2180
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, so again.

2181
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,799
Speaker 4: You know, I was lauding the Browns for good decision

2182
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 4: making in the game earlier, and it was around the

2183
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 4: same exact portion of the field facing a fourth and

2184
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 4: four I think it was at Indies forty two where

2185
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 4: they elected to punt. And what ended up happening on

2186
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 4: the ensuing drive from the Colts is they fumbled and

2187
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:35,759
Speaker 4: the Browns defense was able to capitalize after the good

2188
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 4: or I should say, the well placed punt and dive

2189
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 4: on the fumble recovery.

2190
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 2: For wait a second, I'm looking at the game. It's

2191
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 2: the end of the third corner.

2192
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 5: I apologize everybody.

2193
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 3: I was completely off there.

2194
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 2: Every other game is heading toward the end.

2195
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 3: That was the end of the third couple.

2196
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 5: Oh you thought me. I didn't catch that.

2197
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 16: I thought this was heading towards the end of the game.

2198
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 16: I didn't thought it was toward the end of the game.

2199
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 16: I told you, this game is so far behind the

2200
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,560
Speaker 16: other games. I'm like going brain dead here, that's on me.

2201
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 16: So it is the end of the third quarter. I'm

2202
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 16: looking at the Colts that I'm watching the clock run down.

2203
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 16: I'm like, wow, they're ready to clock down to like

2204
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 16: two seconds one second. What just happened the end of

2205
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:18,919
Speaker 16: the third quarter. Well, so, yeah, I mean again.

2206
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 4: The conversation we had sometimes sometimes and look, I'm not

2207
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 4: saying that every single time. It's not the it's the

2208
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 4: wrong time to go for it on fourth down. I'm

2209
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 4: not saying that. But I mean, you now possess a

2210
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 4: lead in this game, and you have an opportunity again

2211
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 4: to pin the Indianapolis Colt Steve or offense deep with

2212
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 4: a punt, and instead you elect to give them half

2213
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 4: a field by trying for it on fourth down and

2214
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 4: fumbling the football with by the way, your backup quarterback

2215
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 4: in the game.

2216
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm just not there with that decision.

2217
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 3: I am not there either, all right. Well threw me

2218
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 3: off a little bit.

2219
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:57,600
Speaker 2: Was we are inside three minutes to go in the

2220
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 2: fourth quarter in this New England Buffalo game. The Bills

2221
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 2: have a fourth and two at New England's eight yard line.

2222
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 2: Patriots said increase their lead to twenty two to ten.

2223
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 2: The Bills got a touchdown, and now the Bills are

2224
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:12,679
Speaker 2: looking to take the lead. Here we go fourth and two.

2225
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 2: Josh Allen throws and it's okay. So that's a replay

2226
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 2: of what happened. Okay, so we'll get the playoff in time.

2227
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 15: I think you know what happened was is that, Yes,

2228
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 15: Josh Allen did get picked off in the end zone

2229
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 15: on fourth and two. However, the Bills had called time

2230
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 15: out before. Wow, the ball was no Wonner. Belichick is

2231
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 15: so hot right now.

2232
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 5: He's losing it furious on this. Look at him.

2233
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 2: He is screaming right now. Look at McDermott. All right,

2234
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 2: So this is the new fourth and two. This is

2235
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 2: live fourth and two now, Yes, all right, So fourth

2236
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 2: and two for the Bills that are at the New

2237
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 2: England's eight yard line.

2238
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,440
Speaker 3: Trailing twenty two to seventeen.

2239
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:49,600
Speaker 2: Josh Allen throws a quick pass and he's got the

2240
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 2: first down. So first down four Buffalo right now, and

2241
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 2: the clock is ticking two forty in counting. All right,

2242
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna get the finish of this game. As we

2243
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: continue to head down the stretch, I will try to

2244
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 2: keep myself focused on where these games actually are time wise.

2245
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2246
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 5: On Ryan Hoyer.

2247
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 6: First out at set of the twenty five four man

2248
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 6: of Rush.

2249
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 5: It's coming home but Royer Bros. Left hand, It's in

2250
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 5: us up to Jenny Johnson.

2251
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 14: Good Barbarby twenty fifteen ten fix six touchdown.

2252
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 2: There got some Bears Radio network. I hate to tell

2253
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 2: you this, Rich, I think Brian Hoyers started his last

2254
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 2: game in the NFL. Raiders came in with hopes today

2255
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 2: and winning on the road against the hapless Bears.

2256
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 3: Not going to happen.

2257
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 2: Bears lead the Raiders by his score of thirty to

2258
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: six three and.

2259
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 3: A half minutes ago in the game.

2260
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 5: There.

2261
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin, Rich Ornberger.

2262
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 2: We are alive from the Tyrech dot Com studios. By the way,

2263
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: we were looking it up. Bryan Hoyer starting today for

2264
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 2: the Raiders. This is the eight different team that he

2265
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: has started at least one game. We were thinking, is

2266
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 2: that a record? And then we thought of a couple

2267
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 2: of guys and we look it up. Ryan Fitzpatrick nine

2268
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 2: nine different teams he started at least one game. But

2269
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 2: for Brian Hoyer and the Raiders, a nightmare day in Chicago.

2270
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 5: No question.

2271
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 4: How about Deonte Foreman on the other side of this matchup.

2272
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 4: Sixteen carries, eighty nine yards, two rushing touchdowns. If you

2273
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 4: streamed him on Fantasy, you're thanking yourself for doing him

2274
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 4: doing so. He's got thirty points in Fantasy football today

2275
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 4: and the game is not over yet. The Bears, obviously,

2276
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 4: if they get the ball back, are probably gonna have

2277
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 4: to run it a few times in order to close

2278
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 4: this game out. Entyson Beagin twenty one of twenty nine,

2279
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 4: one sixty two, no big mistakes, took a sack, but

2280
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 4: threw a touchdown. That pass went to the hands of

2281
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 4: Deonta Foreman, or the aforementioned running back, who has thirty

2282
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 4: points of Fantasy So big day for Foreman, big day

2283
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 4: for Beijen, Huge day for the Chicago Bears only have

2284
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 4: one win on the season. They'll improve to two and

2285
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 4: five here, and the Las Vegas Raiders went on the

2286
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 4: road searching for answers after Jimmy g has been down

2287
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 4: for two weeks now and they've come up with none.

2288
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 3: All right, So.

2289
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 2: Then we have New England and Buffalo, and I look

2290
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 2: up and look who's leading. The Buffalo Bills have taken

2291
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 2: a twenty five to twenty two lead.

2292
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 3: This was following a New England fumble.

2293
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 2: A played twenty nine yard drive ends up with a

2294
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen one yard runs. So the Patriots have really

2295
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 2: outplayed the Bills throughout the game today. But it's the

2296
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 2: Bills right now, much like last week, or the Bills

2297
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 2: sort of escaped with a win in a game where

2298
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 2: they were pretty much outplayed. But that's the difference between

2299
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 2: good teams and not so good teams. And so now

2300
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 2: Mac Jones and the Patriots and they just broke off

2301
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 2: of big play, big play into Bills territory.

2302
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 3: Oh there's a flag. I was just about to.

2303
01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: Say no flag on the play and about to say

2304
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 2: that the flag is it going to be against New

2305
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 2: England for a blockdown field?

2306
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 5: It was?

2307
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 2: It was a late flag, a little swing pass that broke.

2308
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, was this the first play on the new drive here?

2309
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 2: I believe it was. Is that Stevenson yew that was

2310
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 2: running Mattie Jones.

2311
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 4: To Remandre Stevenson. He got it out to the Buffalo

2312
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 4: forty one for thirty four yards on the reception.

2313
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 5: But we'll see what this penalty is for now.

2314
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 2: There's a minute forty nine to go in the fourth

2315
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 2: quarter and I think they're picking up the flag.

2316
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 4: They are forty four yards to there on four receptions.

2317
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 4: Zeke Elliott actually the leading ball carrier for the Patriots

2318
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 4: today eleven carries thirty one yards, also scored a rushing touchdown, so.

2319
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 2: That play stands. Whatever flag they threw, they picked it up.

2320
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: Mm and uh a clapping Belichick there, So huge play there,

2321
01:57:55,360 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 2: Rich to get this drive started. And again they're down three,

2322
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 2: so field goal could tie it. A touchdown wins it.

2323
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 2: But this would be a bitter pill for the Patriots

2324
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,959
Speaker 2: if they were to lose a game where they've outplayed

2325
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo today.

2326
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, gotta get it into field goal distance here,

2327
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 4: probably looking at the thirty yard line in order to

2328
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 4: be within range.

2329
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 2: They're down to thirty five another Stevenson run has gotten

2330
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 2: the ball. I mean that's fifty two yards at this point.

2331
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 2: Fifty two yards is field goal range should be in

2332
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 2: the NFL. So they have a second and five situation

2333
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 2: right now, thirty six yard line of the Bills. Will

2334
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 2: swing pass and that's gonna lose yards, by.

2335
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 15: The way, Steve. The Browns Colts game, which does have

2336
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 15: eleven minutes left, by the way, okay, thank you, thank you.

2337
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 3: I do think PJ.

2338
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 15: Walker threw one deep towards the end zone and it

2339
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 15: got intercepted just a couple of yards shy of the

2340
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 15: end zone. So the court.

2341
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 2: I don't know why that game is so far behind

2342
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 2: every other game, because we're coming down the stretch, all right.

2343
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 2: We are now passing one minute to go right now

2344
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, New England trailing by three. They

2345
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 2: have a third and eight at the thirty nine yard

2346
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 2: line of the Bills. They need to play for Mac

2347
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 2: Jones and the pass is complete.

2348
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 3: Wow, big big.

2349
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 2: Play for Mac Jones because he got hit right after

2350
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 2: he let go of that.

2351
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 4: Back over the middle to Hunter Henry down to the

2352
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 4: Buffalo twenty five yards for a fourteen yard pick up.

2353
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 5: There.

2354
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 4: Big play by Mac Jones, who's played really an impressive

2355
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 4: ballgame today. Twenty one of twenty five passing two hundred

2356
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 4: and thirty nine yards through the air.

2357
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 2: I got an update on that now, twenty two to

2358
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 2: twenty six, two fifty three after that completion.

2359
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 3: That's a one twenty passer rating.

2360
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 4: I mean he is cooking, yeah, I mean, let Mac

2361
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 4: cook Yeah.

2362
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 3: I've really really played well today.

2363
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 5: Print the T shirts.

2364
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's gotten hit a few times. He got

2365
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 2: hit there late, but they are well. You're very much

2366
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:52,880
Speaker 2: into field goal position right now. By the way, New

2367
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 2: England has one time out remaining. There's forty eight seconds

2368
01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 2: to go in the fourth quarter and New England trailing

2369
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:04,080
Speaker 2: the Bills by a score of twenty five to twenty two.

2370
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 2: We're getting close to the top of the hour. I

2371
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 2: think we get one more quick play here, and he's

2372
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 2: determined for us not to tell you what's gonna happen

2373
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 2: on this play. Keep it here for all the rest.

2374
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. I formation Allen

2375
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 2: under center, takes the snap and he is in and

2376
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 2: there's the signal touchdown.

2377
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 5: Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, Allen powers in from six inches out. That's WGR

2379
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Speaker 2: five P fifty Bills Radio Network. Bills took the lead there,

2380
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 2: but the New England Patriots score the touchdown to take

2381
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 2: the lead twenty nine to twenty five. Finals seconds now

2382
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 2: of this game, Josh Allen throws downfield and he completes

2383
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 2: the pass. No, no, wow, Diggs had it.

2384
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Speaker 5: Wow.

2385
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 2: That would have put him intentional field goal range. And

2386
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 2: the pass was perfect Wow, and Diggs dropped it.

2387
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Speaker 5: I mean that is a drop.

2388
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 3: That is a flat out drop.

2389
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,839
Speaker 2: It would have been complete to the New England thirty

2390
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 2: yard line, which would have been a forty seven yard

2391
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 2: field goal at ten.

2392
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Speaker 3: Now again they need.

2393
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Speaker 2: A touchdown so it doesn't matter.

2394
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Speaker 4: But and they've tried to pump it to Diggs. I mean, look,

2395
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 4: it's the Patriot way to take away your best pass catcher.

2396
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 4: They did it to the Dolphins and a loss to

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins, but they did it to them successfully with

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Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill, who scored a receiving touchdown in that game.

2399
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Speaker 4: But overall played, you know, a game very different from

2400
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 4: the way he's looked against most defenses. Same with Stefan

2401
02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 4: Digs today, six receptions fifty eight yards on eleven targets.

2402
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:53,840
Speaker 4: He's had that touchdown reception but still it's been a

2403
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 4: slow day for digs.

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Speaker 2: All right, So it looks like New England will win

2405
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 2: this game. One more play here for the Bills. This

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Speaker 2: have a fourth and one at the Giants eighteen yard

2412
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 2: line that got the two minute warning. Their Giants lead

2413
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 2: the Commanders fourteen to seven, and the Cleveland Browns have

2414
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 2: just kicked a field goal to retake the lead thirty

2415
02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 2: three to thirty one. Over the call SR final play

2416
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 2: here for the Bills and final seconds, and that is

2417
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 2: over lateral play. It's over.

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Speaker 3: New England wins it.

2419
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:44,760
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick becomes the third coach in NFL history with

2420
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 2: three hundred regular season wins, joining Dodds, Shula and Papa Beart.

2421
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 2: George hallis so huge, huge win at home today for

2422
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots.

2423
02:02:56,720 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, a huge, huge win. And how about Micah Sick

2424
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:02,880
Speaker 4: getting in the end zone at the end of that drive.

2425
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 4: Just a little one on one, bigger, better athlete against

2426
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 4: the safety and coverage Mac Jones, capping off what was

2427
02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 4: an excellent day, arguably one of his best days as

2428
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 4: a professional football player, twenty five of thirty two seventy two.

2429
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 4: The two touchdown passes one to Born, one to get

2430
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 4: SICKI uh look well coached. Teams like the Steelers, like

2431
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 4: the Patriots, even in down years, are some of the

2432
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 4: most dangerous teams to play against because they will find

2433
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 4: a way to make even a good team look foolish

2434
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:44,880
Speaker 4: in in games. And they did it the Patriots did

2435
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:49,680
Speaker 4: successfully today. They did it unsuccessfully against a red hot

2436
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins offense that came to New England and were

2437
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 4: really flummixed by what the Patriots were doing to them defensive.

2438
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 2: All right, hang on, Rich, because the Falcons right now

2439
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:04,560
Speaker 2: have your favorite former Chargers kicker coming on the field

2440
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 2: to win this game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Four

2441
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:12,520
Speaker 2: seconds left, four seconds left, tied at thirteen. This is

2442
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 2: going to be a fifty one yard field goal attempt

2443
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:22,800
Speaker 2: for the Falcons right here to win for the win.

2444
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 5: Here we go.

2445
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 2: The kick is up and it looks good, and it

2446
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 2: is good. Falcons have beaten the Buccaneers third seven. Sixteen

2447
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 2: to thirteen is the final score, by the way. With

2448
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 2: that win, the Falcons take over first place in the

2449
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:45,080
Speaker 2: much maligned, deservedly NFC South.

2450
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 5: Well.

2451
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a huge victory for the Atlanta Falcons

2452
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 4: and for Arthur Smith because if you think about it,

2453
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 4: for now years he's been the head coach of the

2454
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 4: Falcons and it's been a division that's been dominated by

2455
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 4: Tom Brady. He gets an opportunity, no Tom Brady. A

2456
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 4: down year for the Bucks, no question, trying to get

2457
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:10,959
Speaker 4: things going with Baker Mayfield at quarterback. Obviously, the Carolina Panthers,

2458
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 4: things have not panned out the way they planned with

2459
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 4: Bryce Young at quarterback and Frank Reich as their head coach.

2460
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:19,400
Speaker 5: And the Saints they've been hot and cold this season.

2461
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:23,919
Speaker 4: That's a great defense, but if they can't muster any offense,

2462
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 4: this could be a long season for New Orleans. So

2463
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:29,200
Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcons right now in the driver's sea with a

2464
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:30,200
Speaker 4: four and three record.

2465
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 2: All right, so we have another game coming down the

2466
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 2: stretch right now. This is the Commanders and Giants. We're

2467
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 2: at one oh two to play right now. In the

2468
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Giants lee by a score of fourteen to seven,

2469
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 2: and the Commanders now have a third down. They are

2470
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:50,960
Speaker 2: at the Giants. Where are they now? They are at

2471
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 2: the eight yard line. I believe so third and five

2472
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:59,040
Speaker 2: situations seven yard line to be exact. Third and five

2473
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 2: for the Commanders at the Giant seven yard line. Giants

2474
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 2: lead at fourteen to seven, one oh four to go.

2475
02:06:05,320 --> 02:06:08,839
Speaker 2: The Giants have really dominated this game. Another team desperate

2476
02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:12,160
Speaker 2: for a win, one in five overall, winless at home

2477
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:16,120
Speaker 2: this year. The Commanders, man, they're holding things together. They

2478
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 2: came into this game with a three and three record.

2479
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 2: Sam Howe's played pretty well for this team. But let's

2480
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:25,839
Speaker 2: see what happens here. Third and five at the Giant

2481
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 2: seven yard line. Commander's trailing by a score of fourteen

2482
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 2: to seven.

2483
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 15: By the way, Steve, the Colts just took a lead

2484
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 15: on a seventy five yard touchdown pass to Michael Pittman.

2485
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm not mentioning that game anymore because I got so

2486
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 2: screwed up earlier.

2487
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 4: No, no, no, here we go, Sam Howe, that's incredible.

2488
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 2: I just got it all right, So incomplete pass. Now

2489
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 2: it's a fourth and five, and again they have to

2490
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:52,240
Speaker 2: go for obviously fourth and five of the Giants seven

2491
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:55,840
Speaker 2: yard line. By the way, what a shootout that game

2492
02:06:55,960 --> 02:07:00,280
Speaker 2: is between the Colts and the Browns. Gardner Minshew today

2493
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 2: fifteen of twenty two, three hundred and five yards, two touchdowns,

2494
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:09,360
Speaker 2: one interception, and he has scored two touchdowns on the ground.

2495
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:13,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been all these running backs for the Browns

2496
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 4: that have been general, i should say, and defense that

2497
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:17,680
Speaker 4: have been generating the offense.

2498
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 2: Here we go fourth and five, right now, this is

2499
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:24,680
Speaker 2: it for the Commanders and Sam hal is rushed, he scrambles,

2500
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:28,160
Speaker 2: he throws to the end zone. It's caught, no knocked away,

2501
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 2: and that is going to do it. Wow, well at

2502
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 2: least now, because the Giants always capable of finding way

2503
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 2: to blow a game.

2504
02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:39,320
Speaker 5: But it's true, it's true.

2505
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not over yet, but Giants will take over

2506
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 2: on downs at the seven yard line, fifty six seconds

2507
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 2: to go.

2508
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:50,400
Speaker 4: Well, listen, and this is a difficult situation being if

2509
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:54,480
Speaker 4: you are the New York Giants because Saquon Barkley's still

2510
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:58,960
Speaker 4: nursing his way back from an injured ankle. Commander's solid

2511
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 4: defense playing well today against the Giants, and you're coming

2512
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 4: off your own goal line. So with two timeouts left

2513
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 4: for the Commanders, the Giants need to find a way

2514
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:09,080
Speaker 4: to get a first down.

2515
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 2: Barkley has twenty one carries seventy seven yards, so he's

2516
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:13,560
Speaker 2: run the ball pretty well today.

2517
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:15,920
Speaker 4: Pretty well, I mean that is that's that's a lot

2518
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:19,080
Speaker 4: of carriers for that many yards though, and that's been.

2519
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 3: Less than four yards of care. That's been the issue

2520
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 3: for Well, they're taking a knee.

2521
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,680
Speaker 5: Oh so they don't. Yeah, I guess that's true.

2522
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean commanders do have two timeouts. They're

2523
02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 2: going to burn one there. Yeah, so I mean they'll

2524
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 2: be facing a they.

2525
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 5: Have to punt this. If they keep kneeling on the football,

2526
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:41,320
Speaker 5: will time expire?

2527
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:45,080
Speaker 2: Well that's the strategy Dables using right now. So they

2528
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 2: went to a knee on first down. Again, the Commanders

2529
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,240
Speaker 2: had two timeouts left. They just used one.

2530
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 5: Clock stuff that fifty two yeah.

2531
02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 3: Fifty three seconds left.

2532
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 5: I think the Giants are gonna have to punt it.

2533
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so now you take another knee, they stop the

2534
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 2: clock immediately. Yeah, that would be a third and twelve

2535
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, yeah, you have forty something. I don't know,

2536
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:08,760
Speaker 2: I find out what they're doing here.

2537
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 4: I guess he really doesn't trust his offense.

2538
02:09:12,720 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 2: He really doesn't. And they did take a knee, and

2539
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 2: so you lose the yard. There's fifty seconds left and

2540
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 2: now you have a third and twelve. Yeah, so if

2541
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 2: you go for it, you're not gonna be able to

2542
02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 2: run fifty seconds off the clock.

2543
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 4: That's my point. That's my point. I'm that's what I

2544
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 4: was saying. With two timeouts, you have to get a

2545
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:33,839
Speaker 4: first down.

2546
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 2: To you are gonna be punting out of the back

2547
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 2: of your end zone.

2548
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:39,360
Speaker 5: Exactly what is Dabele doing.

2549
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. He's like, did you tell me

2550
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 2: how many timeouts they had left? What the hell is

2551
02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 2: he talking to the official right now? So, okay, so

2552
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna run whatever play they're gonna run. Here on

2553
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 2: third down, you're not gonna throw the ball.

2554
02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm assuming they're gonna kneel again since that

2555
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:56,480
Speaker 4: was their plan, and they.

2556
02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 2: Are, and they're kneeling again. So here we go fifty

2557
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 2: one seconds they kneel, and now the clock's gonna run.

2558
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2559
02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 2: So there's there's an eight second difference on the clock.

2560
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm looking right now, eight to nine second difference on

2561
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 2: the clock.

2562
02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 4: But still you're gonna have opportunity for a real You're

2563
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 4: gonna have to trust your offense.

2564
02:10:14,440 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 2: You got a first down, Well, my guess is you

2565
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 2: call a time out before the clock expires, So that'll

2566
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:25,920
Speaker 2: be a fourth and thirdeam from their own six yard line.

2567
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:29,879
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to hunt.

2568
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 15: And they've stopped the clock for an injured commander. Oh

2569
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 15: my gosh, quote unquote injured.

2570
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 5: What a disaster for Brian dabol By the way, that.

2571
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 2: Is a smart play by Rivera.

2572
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 5: That question, no question.

2573
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:48,000
Speaker 4: I mean, what a disaster of a decision by Brian Dabole.

2574
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 5: This is a laughing stock.

2575
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:52,480
Speaker 4: You're gonna give the commanders an opportunity with the ball

2576
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:53,640
Speaker 4: back here in a game?

2577
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 5: I mean, what you trust your offense? Do little? Either

2578
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 5: that or is zero understanding of the clock.

2579
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:00,919
Speaker 3: All right, So now it's fourth and thirteen.

2580
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 2: The clock now restarts, and so the clock did not

2581
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:10,320
Speaker 2: stop completely, so there's still a seven or eight second difference.

2582
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 2: What is going on here?

2583
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 15: Did he just try to kneeling fourth down? Why did

2584
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:20,240
Speaker 15: the injury reset the play clock?

2585
02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:27,800
Speaker 2: So apparently the injury reset the clock and that is

2586
02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:30,240
Speaker 2: game Wow?

2587
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:32,760
Speaker 5: What the he So both of these coaches have no

2588
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:33,720
Speaker 5: idea what they're doing.

2589
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:37,360
Speaker 2: So the game is officially over. The Giants have defeated.

2590
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:43,440
Speaker 2: That was unreal what just happened? So what just happened?

2591
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:47,520
Speaker 2: By the way, the injured player just walk casually off

2592
02:11:47,560 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 2: the field, the clock stopped, but then they reset the

2593
02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 2: clock and that was game.

2594
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 3: That was bizarre to say the least.

2595
02:11:58,720 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 2: Bottom line is the Giants come away with a fourteenth

2596
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 2: to seven win in this game. So there's only one

2597
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,320
Speaker 2: of the early games left. This game stuts plenty of

2598
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:10,480
Speaker 2: time left. Colts with a thirty eight to three to

2599
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:13,720
Speaker 2: d three lead over the Browns with three and a

2600
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,080
Speaker 2: half minutes to go in the fourth quarter. All right,

2601
02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 2: we got games kicking off right now after that. Man,

2602
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:20,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what we were watching at the end

2603
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:21,280
Speaker 2: of that game.

2604
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:24,560
Speaker 1: That was ridiculous the Giants.

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02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:27,600
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Henery four.

2611
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Speaker 14: And Stevenson flex left before Jones summons steven Suit to

2612
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 14: the quarterbacks right here a second of goal to go

2613
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,080
Speaker 14: for the left hash one, Andrew's over the football to

2614
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 14: stap it back.

2615
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:55,000
Speaker 5: Jones cass it looks to his right, close it to

2616
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:57,960
Speaker 5: the right. Got touchdowns. He's going to Patriots.

2617
02:12:59,080 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2618
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 5: It takes a staff, nobody washing.

2619
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:03,120
Speaker 14: Gosh Allen rolls life, moves up.

2620
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:05,280
Speaker 5: He's passed a lot of Stravis. Allen's going to try

2621
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:05,880
Speaker 5: to coss it back.

2622
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 14: He's a build all the Kirk and Brimpton's school of

2623
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 14: slides to come up and the Patriots can celebrate their

2624
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,440
Speaker 14: first win and hold this year and upset of Buffalo

2625
02:13:15,480 --> 02:13:17,840
Speaker 14: by a twenty nine twenty five final.

2626
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 2: That is the Patriots Radio network. Patriots get a huge

2627
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:25,840
Speaker 2: win today at home against the Buffalo Bills, twenty nine

2628
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 2: to twenty five, the three hundredth regular season win for

2629
02:13:29,640 --> 02:13:33,720
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and Mac Jones had today twenty five to thirty,

2630
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,839
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy two yards, two touchdowns, no picks.

2631
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:39,760
Speaker 2: He outplayed Josh Allen today and that is why the

2632
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:43,600
Speaker 2: Patriots come up winners. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio.

2633
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:47,080
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin rich Ornberger, we alive from the ti iraq

2634
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:51,000
Speaker 2: dot com studios. All right, so Rich, right now, we

2635
02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:54,720
Speaker 2: got the Colts and the Browns, and the Browns are

2636
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:57,600
Speaker 2: on the move. Colts lead this game by a score

2637
02:13:57,640 --> 02:13:59,480
Speaker 2: of thirty eight to thirty three. I don't know if

2638
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:02,600
Speaker 2: anyone thought we'd see this kind of scoring in this

2639
02:14:02,720 --> 02:14:06,200
Speaker 2: game today. Again, if you missed it, Deshaun Watson went

2640
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 2: out early in the game with an injury.

2641
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:09,600
Speaker 3: PJ. Walker took over.

2642
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:13,360
Speaker 2: His numbers are ordinary, but they were ordinary last week

2643
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:15,480
Speaker 2: and they beat the forty nine ers and he just

2644
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:19,080
Speaker 2: zipped in a pass right there to continue this Browns drive.

2645
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:23,520
Speaker 2: We got one twenty seven and counting a first down

2646
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:27,760
Speaker 2: for these Cleveland Browns. Meanwhile, Gardner Minshew a huge day

2647
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:31,120
Speaker 2: sixteen to twenty three, three hundred and twelve yards, two touchdowns.

2648
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:34,360
Speaker 2: Through the year, he has covered two touchdowns on the ground.

2649
02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:37,280
Speaker 2: So the Browns are at the twenty yard line of

2650
02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:39,880
Speaker 2: the Colts right now, and then they ran the ball

2651
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:41,720
Speaker 2: for a two yard loss.

2652
02:14:42,320 --> 02:14:46,480
Speaker 4: You know, Russell Wilson catches a lot of heat for

2653
02:14:47,840 --> 02:14:51,800
Speaker 4: not playing well under Nathaniel Hackett, and he's been better

2654
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:55,320
Speaker 4: this season. But the Denver Broncos have been poor to

2655
02:14:55,640 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 4: quite poor, depending on what game you put on and watch.

2656
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 4: For all the money that Russell Wilson was paid, Deshaun

2657
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:08,080
Speaker 4: Watson was paid much more. And he's played virtually zero

2658
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:09,720
Speaker 4: games for the Cleveland Browns.

2659
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:12,200
Speaker 2: Well, even in the games he's played, I mean, how

2660
02:15:12,240 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 2: many games can you say he was the difference in

2661
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:14,960
Speaker 2: a Browns win?

2662
02:15:15,400 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 5: And that's my point. I mean, like, yes, he has.

2663
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:21,280
Speaker 4: He appeared in a stretch of games last year toward

2664
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,480
Speaker 4: the end of the season, but he was Russio's all

2665
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:26,000
Speaker 4: get out to begin with, and he didn't really have

2666
02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:31,560
Speaker 4: a single game that ensnared any of the whatever you

2667
02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:34,080
Speaker 4: want to call it, the factor that he had while

2668
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:37,320
Speaker 4: he was a Houston Texans starting quarterback. And this season

2669
02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:42,000
Speaker 4: it's been, you know, sort of an endurable disaster for

2670
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:44,560
Speaker 4: him at quarterback. He hasn't been on the field at all.

2671
02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:47,240
Speaker 3: So well, they haven't showed much offense. I mean, that's

2672
02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:47,720
Speaker 3: the point.

2673
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 2: In other words, what the Browns have done in their wins,

2674
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:52,680
Speaker 2: and we saw it obviously against the forty nine ers

2675
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:53,760
Speaker 2: is their defense.

2676
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, their defense is the reason that they're winning games,

2677
02:15:57,400 --> 02:15:57,720
Speaker 3: all right.

2678
02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 2: So now we got seven seconds in the fourth quarter

2679
02:16:02,720 --> 02:16:06,960
Speaker 2: and a third and for the Browns at the Indianapolis

2680
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:12,520
Speaker 2: thirteen yard line. Meanwhile, the Rams Steelers are just underway

2681
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:17,720
Speaker 2: right now. Yesterday Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider,

2682
02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 2: we asked him who's been the biggest surprise team in

2683
02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:22,120
Speaker 2: the league this year? And he goes, I'm gonna have

2684
02:16:22,120 --> 02:16:26,680
Speaker 2: to say the Rams did not see this, that they

2685
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:28,360
Speaker 2: would be at three and three, And he gave a

2686
02:16:28,360 --> 02:16:31,240
Speaker 2: lot of credit to Matthew Stafford, who, you know, some

2687
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:33,160
Speaker 2: people almost felt like was almost going to go through

2688
02:16:33,200 --> 02:16:35,760
Speaker 2: the motions this year, right, I mean, after the injury

2689
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:37,960
Speaker 2: last year, He's got his Super Bowl in the bank

2690
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:41,000
Speaker 2: and everything else, but he's been a difference maker. There

2691
02:16:41,080 --> 02:16:44,720
Speaker 2: is no depth on this Rams team. Cooper Cup has

2692
02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:47,000
Speaker 2: come back and picked up right where he left off.

2693
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 2: So this interseene game today against the Steelers out at

2694
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:54,040
Speaker 2: SOFI Stadium. Of course, the Steelers are three and two,

2695
02:16:54,040 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 2: and every time you look at the Steelers record, you're like,

2696
02:16:56,440 --> 02:16:59,840
Speaker 2: how are they three and two? I mean he's like, yeah, no.

2697
02:17:00,280 --> 02:17:02,119
Speaker 2: They have Mike Tomlin as their coach. He wins more

2698
02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:02,760
Speaker 2: than he loses.

2699
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:06,520
Speaker 5: They just are That's all we can say.

2700
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:10,920
Speaker 4: Somehow, Mike Tomlin has figured out a way to coach

2701
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:16,400
Speaker 4: this team that really I don't know how. It's very similar, honestly,

2702
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:18,280
Speaker 4: and they play in the same division to the way

2703
02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:21,840
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns have navigated this season. They just rely

2704
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 4: on a great defense. They try to do just enough

2705
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:28,880
Speaker 4: offensively to not make mistakes, but to stay in football games.

2706
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:31,680
Speaker 4: Now today, in this game against the Colts, it's a

2707
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:34,280
Speaker 4: bit of a shootout, but that's been even aided by

2708
02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:37,560
Speaker 4: their defense with a score obviously in the fumble recovery

2709
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:42,720
Speaker 4: for a touchdown. So it's it is one of those things.

2710
02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:46,000
Speaker 4: Man Like good coaches, they find a way to win,

2711
02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:49,000
Speaker 4: and they find a way to keep you in games

2712
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:53,720
Speaker 4: and keep you in seasons. And Sean mcvayh and Mike Tomlin,

2713
02:17:53,800 --> 02:17:56,680
Speaker 4: this is a great matchup in Los Angeles. Although if

2714
02:17:56,720 --> 02:17:59,280
Speaker 4: you saw any of the social media posts leading up

2715
02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:04,800
Speaker 4: to kickoff in LA, a sparsely attended game, Oh, I mean,

2716
02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:07,080
Speaker 4: nobody is there and so far today.

2717
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:10,280
Speaker 3: No, this is it.

2718
02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, the rest of the country does not understand

2719
02:18:14,400 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 2: why the NFL is such a relative zero in Los Angeles.

2720
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:20,800
Speaker 2: And all I can say is, as someone that's been

2721
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:24,000
Speaker 2: in this market, this entire time in the twenty years

2722
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:26,640
Speaker 2: that the NFL was absent from this league. You know,

2723
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:30,200
Speaker 2: LA was absent from the NFL. The number of unsolicited

2724
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:33,080
Speaker 2: phone calls I got on radio from people saying, Hey, Hartman,

2725
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:35,480
Speaker 2: when are we going to get the NFL back? Would

2726
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 2: be zero zero. No one was begging for the LA.

2727
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:43,920
Speaker 2: Stan Kronkey bought a strip of land in Inglewood to

2728
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:47,160
Speaker 2: build a stadium and bring the Rams there, and the

2729
02:18:47,240 --> 02:18:49,800
Speaker 2: Chargers obviously just hitched a ride to get a free

2730
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:54,640
Speaker 2: ticket in a stadium, beautiful stadium. But in Los Angeles

2731
02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:59,360
Speaker 2: there's the Dodgers, there's the Lakers, and the NFL is

2732
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:02,880
Speaker 2: far in the rear, but they don't care because other

2733
02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:05,200
Speaker 2: teams fans show up and they buy it the seats.

2734
02:19:05,320 --> 02:19:07,880
Speaker 2: We have a delay in this Colts Browns game. What

2735
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,960
Speaker 2: the hell is going on here? It's first and goal.

2736
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:14,600
Speaker 2: This game is endless. It's crazy. Well, PJ.

2737
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:18,520
Speaker 4: Walker on the last play third, third and four, right,

2738
02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:23,880
Speaker 4: he was sacked for a loss of thirteen yards. He fumbled,

2739
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:29,240
Speaker 4: it was recovered by DeForrest Buckner, and then and then

2740
02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:31,919
Speaker 4: there was a penalty on Indianapolis.

2741
02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's a first and goal. Now it's a

2742
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:37,720
Speaker 2: first and goal at the one. Yeah, yeah, and so

2743
02:19:37,720 --> 02:19:40,879
Speaker 2: so Brown is going absolutely nuts.

2744
02:19:41,120 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 3: Sure, he's like, what is going on here?

2745
02:19:44,440 --> 02:19:44,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2746
02:19:45,440 --> 02:19:46,280
Speaker 3: What is going on?

2747
02:19:46,360 --> 02:19:46,680
Speaker 5: All right?

2748
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:49,959
Speaker 2: So first and goal at the one now for the Browns.

2749
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:55,000
Speaker 2: The Browns do not have any timeouts. So Walker is

2750
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:57,600
Speaker 2: looking to pass and he throws and it's knocked away.

2751
02:19:57,640 --> 02:19:59,959
Speaker 3: Good defense. Wow wow wow wow.

2752
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:03,360
Speaker 2: That was a touchdown but knocked away at the last second.

2753
02:20:03,959 --> 02:20:07,560
Speaker 2: So twenty eight seconds to go, second and goal for

2754
02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:10,080
Speaker 2: the Browns, trying to take the lead in this game

2755
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:11,560
Speaker 2: against the.

2756
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:14,760
Speaker 4: Joku there who has fifty four yards through the air

2757
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:17,760
Speaker 4: on five receptions today and just could not connect.

2758
02:20:17,800 --> 02:20:17,959
Speaker 5: Good.

2759
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:20,720
Speaker 2: That was great defense, knocking the ball out at the

2760
02:20:20,800 --> 02:20:23,560
Speaker 2: last second. So he did not control the ball, so

2761
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:26,080
Speaker 2: he may have a second goal right now for this

2762
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:29,200
Speaker 2: Browns team. You know, these are two middle of the

2763
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:31,280
Speaker 2: pack teams. But this is going to help a game

2764
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:36,640
Speaker 2: today with Gardner Minshaw and PJ. Walker as you're competing quarterbacks,

2765
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:38,760
Speaker 2: all right, they're going to throw the ball again, a

2766
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:42,560
Speaker 2: little flip pass and that's incomplete. What the hell was that?

2767
02:20:44,120 --> 02:20:47,680
Speaker 2: Can anybody explain that play to me? He basically pitched

2768
02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 2: the ball to his guard.

2769
02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is a bad This is a bad

2770
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:57,000
Speaker 4: goal line sequence for the Cleveland Browns.

2771
02:20:57,200 --> 02:20:59,800
Speaker 3: Well, I guess that was the tight end, but it

2772
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:01,000
Speaker 3: hit him right in the face.

2773
02:21:01,240 --> 02:21:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh boy, So now we have third in goal for

2774
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:06,879
Speaker 2: the Browns twenty five seconds to go.

2775
02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:09,080
Speaker 3: What kind of call is that?

2776
02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:12,120
Speaker 2: Now branded you have no timeout, so they are now

2777
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:14,760
Speaker 2: they're trying to hurry to the light of scrimmage. Oh boy,

2778
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 2: they can't call it time out. They don't have one.

2779
02:21:17,640 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, well they do.

2780
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:23,240
Speaker 2: Oh, the Colts called it timeout. So the Colt I know,

2781
02:21:23,320 --> 02:21:25,280
Speaker 2: the Browns didn't have any timeouts, so the Colts for

2782
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:26,720
Speaker 2: some reason called it time out.

2783
02:21:26,959 --> 02:21:28,440
Speaker 3: There seems to be a lot of confusion this.

2784
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:32,600
Speaker 2: If it's that we're confused, it's because there's confusion on

2785
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:34,520
Speaker 2: the field. So let's go back to the third and four,

2786
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:36,800
Speaker 2: which this goes back to me thinking that the game

2787
02:21:36,959 --> 02:21:39,040
Speaker 2: ended with the end of the third court it should

2788
02:21:39,080 --> 02:21:41,760
Speaker 2: have an omen So when when PJ.

2789
02:21:41,959 --> 02:21:45,680
Speaker 4: Walker was sacked into Forrest Buckner recovered the fumble, there

2790
02:21:45,760 --> 02:21:49,000
Speaker 4: was a penalty on a legal contact down field, and

2791
02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:53,959
Speaker 4: so after official replay, the penalty was enforced, ruling.

2792
02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 17: That the the the the the original play they ain't

2793
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:01,240
Speaker 17: complete or excuse me, it would be a first and

2794
02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:05,240
Speaker 17: goal opportunity for the Browns at the Indianapolis eight.

2795
02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:08,360
Speaker 4: They got it down to the Indy one. They've run

2796
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:10,920
Speaker 4: two unsuccessful plays.

2797
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:12,960
Speaker 2: All right there, running to the line of scrimmage right now.

2798
02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:15,119
Speaker 2: I don't know why they're running. The clock is stopped.

2799
02:22:15,280 --> 02:22:18,280
Speaker 2: Walker is looking to pass, he's rolling out, he's he

2800
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:20,320
Speaker 2: throws the ball away, throws it out of the end.

2801
02:22:20,360 --> 02:22:23,640
Speaker 2: Z all right, So now you got fourth and goal

2802
02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:27,320
Speaker 2: at the one, this sequence of plays by the Browns.

2803
02:22:27,400 --> 02:22:30,640
Speaker 4: If the Browns don't win this game after being gifted

2804
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:34,720
Speaker 4: a first and goal from the Indianapolis eight, yeah, you.

2805
02:22:34,680 --> 02:22:37,360
Speaker 5: Could just go ahead and just just pack it up.

2806
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:42,199
Speaker 2: Ifanski is looking for an answer right now, So fourth

2807
02:22:42,240 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 2: and goal, nineteen seconds to go, and here we go.

2808
02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:50,680
Speaker 2: Let's see what they call. And they didn't have any timeouts.

2809
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:52,480
Speaker 2: I guess that's why they weren't running the ball. But

2810
02:22:52,560 --> 02:22:54,280
Speaker 2: on fourth down they're going to run the ball and

2811
02:22:54,320 --> 02:22:55,880
Speaker 2: it's that's a touchdown.

2812
02:22:56,520 --> 02:22:56,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2813
02:22:56,800 --> 02:23:01,640
Speaker 3: Let you know, no no signal, no.

2814
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:04,840
Speaker 12: No whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

2815
02:23:04,879 --> 02:23:10,240
Speaker 2: No did they they haven't signaled touchdown from the angle

2816
02:23:10,320 --> 02:23:12,000
Speaker 2: I was looking at it looked like it got to

2817
02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:18,199
Speaker 2: the goal line. So straight handoff and that's a touchdown.

2818
02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:18,760
Speaker 2: He's at the.

2819
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:19,879
Speaker 5: Goal line, I think he is.

2820
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:23,320
Speaker 3: That's a touchdown, oh for sure. But they didn't signal it.

2821
02:23:24,120 --> 02:23:27,400
Speaker 2: And so right now there is no touchdown signal, but

2822
02:23:27,440 --> 02:23:29,039
Speaker 2: of course any.

2823
02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:32,480
Speaker 3: Play like that is. And now they're calling it a touchdown.

2824
02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:36,560
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt right there with the touchdown for the Browns

2825
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:39,880
Speaker 2: and they take a thirty nine to thirty eight lead.

2826
02:23:40,520 --> 02:23:42,520
Speaker 2: They're going to go for a two point conversion right

2827
02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:45,120
Speaker 2: now to up that lead to three, which is the

2828
02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:46,080
Speaker 2: right call, by the way.

2829
02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen seconds ago.

2830
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:49,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're leading by one here late.

2831
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:52,360
Speaker 2: One and two doesn't make a difference. Three makes a difference.

2832
02:23:52,480 --> 02:23:56,040
Speaker 2: Holy smokes, dude, I wow, this got this to be

2833
02:23:56,040 --> 02:23:58,400
Speaker 2: the longest game of the year. This is right there.

2834
02:23:58,640 --> 02:24:00,680
Speaker 3: Remember last year we had a game that almost went

2835
02:24:00,760 --> 02:24:01,440
Speaker 3: four hours.

2836
02:24:01,480 --> 02:24:04,320
Speaker 2: I remember that. But this is this is not even

2837
02:24:04,360 --> 02:24:08,120
Speaker 2: an overtime game. No, no, this is a three and

2838
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:12,640
Speaker 2: a half hour game in regulation.

2839
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:16,840
Speaker 4: And really only twelve penalties called throughout the game.

2840
02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and both teams ran the ball quite a bit

2841
02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:24,160
Speaker 2: in this game. Did I don't know why this game

2842
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:26,320
Speaker 2: lasted so long, but a lot of it just was

2843
02:24:26,440 --> 02:24:27,920
Speaker 2: general confusion.

2844
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:30,640
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yet I was part of honestly.

2845
02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:33,360
Speaker 2: Seahawks, by the way, took an early seven to nothing

2846
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:37,000
Speaker 2: lead in their game against the Cardinals, that on a

2847
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:43,920
Speaker 2: Geno Smith touchdown pass to Jackson Smith, Jigba and Smith

2848
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:45,760
Speaker 2: by the way, in that opening drive for the Seahawks

2849
02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:48,160
Speaker 2: five of five sixty seven yards and that score.

2850
02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:50,720
Speaker 5: Oh, let's get the rest of the updates from a

2851
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:51,480
Speaker 5: certain somebody.

2852
02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's find out what is trending right now. As

2853
02:24:53,959 --> 02:24:57,400
Speaker 2: Monsie has been standing by, how's her fantasy team doing today?

2854
02:24:57,520 --> 02:24:57,760
Speaker 5: Team?

2855
02:24:58,000 --> 02:24:59,240
Speaker 2: No, it's up and down.

2856
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:02,720
Speaker 9: It's been a your day, up and down, a little

2857
02:25:02,720 --> 02:25:03,480
Speaker 9: bit weirdly.

2858
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:05,320
Speaker 3: Weird day in the NFL will go hand in.

2859
02:25:05,320 --> 02:25:08,720
Speaker 8: Hand exactly, and you know they happened throughout the season.

2860
02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:12,480
Speaker 9: I just wasn't expecting it to be today. So, yes,

2861
02:25:12,520 --> 02:25:14,640
Speaker 9: this game is on. It's very long.

2862
02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:18,520
Speaker 8: They showed Deshaun Watson just standing there. I'm with you, Rich,

2863
02:25:18,680 --> 02:25:21,440
Speaker 8: I don't get it. I don't get it. It seems

2864
02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:24,360
Speaker 8: like he was fine to play and just didn't want

2865
02:25:24,400 --> 02:25:25,440
Speaker 8: to play again.

2866
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:26,800
Speaker 9: That's what it seems like.

2867
02:25:27,160 --> 02:25:30,680
Speaker 4: And like Deshaun Watson, I mean he signed a much

2868
02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:31,840
Speaker 4: larger contract than.

2869
02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:33,240
Speaker 9: Russell will much larger.

2870
02:25:34,080 --> 02:25:37,640
Speaker 4: He's yet to make a difference in Cleveland whatsoever. And

2871
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:41,360
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, Russell Wilson is just catching strays left

2872
02:25:41,400 --> 02:25:44,039
Speaker 4: him right, and and Deshaun Watson.

2873
02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:46,360
Speaker 5: Everybody's just like, oh, he's yea.

2874
02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:49,840
Speaker 9: His rotator cuff. Okay, guys, what he's making millions of dollars.

2875
02:25:49,879 --> 02:25:52,039
Speaker 8: I would be so annoyed if I was his teammate,

2876
02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:53,160
Speaker 8: I'd be get out there.

2877
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:53,960
Speaker 5: But hey, p J.

2878
02:25:54,120 --> 02:25:56,680
Speaker 9: Walker is doing what he can, so at least there's

2879
02:25:56,879 --> 02:25:57,600
Speaker 9: there seems to be.

2880
02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:01,160
Speaker 8: An injury though right now in the Browns Colts game.

2881
02:26:01,360 --> 02:26:04,440
Speaker 3: This game is never going to happen. Get this game

2882
02:26:04,520 --> 02:26:05,680
Speaker 3: is never gonna end.

2883
02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:08,400
Speaker 9: Maybe by the time I'm done with the f date,

2884
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:11,560
Speaker 9: maybe it'll be over. But yes, we have other games

2885
02:26:11,560 --> 02:26:11,960
Speaker 9: going on.

2886
02:26:12,000 --> 02:26:14,240
Speaker 8: The Broncos just scored first with the field goal against

2887
02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:16,800
Speaker 8: the Packers three zero halfway through the first quarter. You

2888
02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:19,120
Speaker 8: mentioned that the Seahawks scored first against the Cardinals, are

2889
02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:21,320
Speaker 8: up seven zero less than five minutes to go in

2890
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:24,080
Speaker 8: the first. Chargers and Chiefs scoreless early in the first,

2891
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:26,720
Speaker 8: Steelers in Rams scoreless late in the first, but the

2892
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:29,879
Speaker 8: Steelers have the ball and they are approaching the red zone.

2893
02:26:29,959 --> 02:26:31,359
Speaker 9: One of the reasons I don't.

2894
02:26:31,080 --> 02:26:35,199
Speaker 8: Think Sofi Stadium works here in La Traffic is awful.

2895
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:37,440
Speaker 9: It is going to the game at Sofa.

2896
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:38,959
Speaker 3: Isn't the first game I went to.

2897
02:26:39,080 --> 02:26:41,360
Speaker 2: I saw a Chargers Chiefs game and brand it was

2898
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:42,560
Speaker 2: a Thursday night game.

2899
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:44,560
Speaker 3: Yes, the game on overtime.

2900
02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:45,000
Speaker 5: Huh.

2901
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:48,440
Speaker 2: We we left our seats at the end of the game.

2902
02:26:48,920 --> 02:26:52,160
Speaker 2: And when we pulled out of the parking lot an

2903
02:26:52,200 --> 02:26:54,840
Speaker 2: hour and a half after the game. You just believe

2904
02:26:54,920 --> 02:26:57,280
Speaker 2: the parking lot. I didn't move for over an hour,

2905
02:26:57,320 --> 02:26:58,080
Speaker 2: hour and a half.

2906
02:26:58,160 --> 02:26:58,360
Speaker 15: I know.

2907
02:26:58,480 --> 02:27:00,560
Speaker 9: And you wait, you stayed for ot which was the

2908
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:01,440
Speaker 9: decision we made.

2909
02:27:01,480 --> 02:27:03,720
Speaker 8: We should have left at the end of the regular

2910
02:27:03,959 --> 02:27:05,720
Speaker 8: of regulation, but man, we stayed.

2911
02:27:05,879 --> 02:27:08,000
Speaker 9: That's what I think. That's a big part. I think.

2912
02:27:08,080 --> 02:27:11,280
Speaker 9: All right, so they did not did they go for

2913
02:27:11,320 --> 02:27:13,240
Speaker 9: the two point conversion and it was not successful.

2914
02:27:13,400 --> 02:27:16,520
Speaker 3: I think that everyone just completely in this game out.

2915
02:27:17,879 --> 02:27:20,400
Speaker 2: They finally took the injured player off the field, and

2916
02:27:20,520 --> 02:27:22,360
Speaker 2: yes they did not get it to knock get it.

2917
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:25,000
Speaker 9: So fifteen seconds left. We'll see how that one ends.

2918
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:28,960
Speaker 8: The games that have already finished for today, Ravens crushed

2919
02:27:29,000 --> 02:27:32,200
Speaker 8: the Lions thirty eight to six. Lamar Jackson twenty one

2920
02:27:32,240 --> 02:27:34,880
Speaker 8: of twenty seven three hundred and fifty seven yards, three

2921
02:27:34,879 --> 02:27:39,080
Speaker 8: touchdowns in the air, one rushing touchdown. Jared Goff thirty

2922
02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 8: three of fifty three two hundred and eighty four yards,

2923
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:46,360
Speaker 8: no touchdowns, one interception. The Falcons walked it off with

2924
02:27:46,400 --> 02:27:48,760
Speaker 8: the fifty one yard field goal and beat the Buccaneers

2925
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:51,680
Speaker 8: sixteen to thirteen. The Giants held on to beat the

2926
02:27:51,680 --> 02:27:54,080
Speaker 8: Commanders fourteen to seven. They didn't even score in the

2927
02:27:54,080 --> 02:27:56,480
Speaker 8: second half, but they ended up coming out with the w.

2928
02:27:56,920 --> 02:27:59,400
Speaker 8: The Patriots stunned the Bills with a touchdown the final

2929
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:02,360
Speaker 8: two minutes, win twenty nine to twenty five. That's three

2930
02:28:02,480 --> 02:28:06,040
Speaker 8: hundred regular season wins for Bill Belichick. Josh Allen of

2931
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:08,280
Speaker 8: the Bills twenty seven to forty one, two hundred and

2932
02:28:08,320 --> 02:28:12,440
Speaker 8: sixty five yards, two touchdowns, one interception, Matt Jones twenty

2933
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:16,000
Speaker 8: five of thirty two hundred and seventy two yards, two touchdowns,

2934
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:19,920
Speaker 8: no interceptions, and the Bears cruise passed the Raiders no problem.

2935
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:22,720
Speaker 8: Thirty to twelve was the final score. Is that game

2936
02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:23,400
Speaker 8: still going on?

2937
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:24,280
Speaker 9: Yes, it is.

2938
02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:27,920
Speaker 8: We also have Baseball Leader Today Rangers and Astros Game

2939
02:28:27,959 --> 02:28:29,320
Speaker 8: six of the ALCS.

2940
02:28:29,360 --> 02:28:31,120
Speaker 9: It all starts at eight pm Eastern Time.

2941
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:34,800
Speaker 8: Houston leads the series three to two, and for Monday

2942
02:28:34,879 --> 02:28:38,440
Speaker 8: Night Football, all signs are pointing that forty nine Ers

2943
02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:41,440
Speaker 8: star running back Christian McCaffrey is going to play.

2944
02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh, he is gonna play.

2945
02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:43,959
Speaker 9: That's what it's leaning towards.

2946
02:28:44,120 --> 02:28:48,360
Speaker 8: He practiced yesterday Saturday limited, but after practice apparently he

2947
02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:49,440
Speaker 8: was feeling great.

2948
02:28:49,879 --> 02:28:50,879
Speaker 9: So everything is.

2949
02:28:50,840 --> 02:28:53,360
Speaker 8: Pointing that he will be playing against the Vikings from

2950
02:28:53,400 --> 02:28:54,920
Speaker 8: Monday Night Football.

2951
02:28:55,480 --> 02:28:57,040
Speaker 9: All right, guys, game's still going on.

2952
02:28:57,120 --> 02:28:57,520
Speaker 5: But I know.

2953
02:28:59,320 --> 02:29:02,240
Speaker 2: Wait, believe no, it's still going on. I think we

2954
02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:06,400
Speaker 2: have a football by Gardner Minshew. So the Browns get

2955
02:29:06,400 --> 02:29:10,040
Speaker 2: the ball back with two seconds to go in a

2956
02:29:10,120 --> 02:29:12,760
Speaker 2: game that will never end, never end, never end. But

2957
02:29:12,800 --> 02:29:17,920
Speaker 2: there's you should be with all the money he's making.

2958
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:18,879
Speaker 9: Why not nothing?

2959
02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, doing nothing, just watching from the sidelines.

2960
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:24,800
Speaker 2: His PJ Walker now is two and oh by the way,

2961
02:29:25,720 --> 02:29:28,039
Speaker 2: and he doesn't get good. See the thing about is

2962
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:32,000
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson gets credit for this win because he was

2963
02:29:32,040 --> 02:29:37,840
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback. That's stupid, but that's the way it works.

2964
02:29:37,680 --> 02:29:38,920
Speaker 3: It's not like a picture.

2965
02:29:39,040 --> 02:29:40,920
Speaker 2: It's not like a starting pitcher in baseball has to

2966
02:29:40,959 --> 02:29:43,360
Speaker 2: go five innings to get credit for the win.

2967
02:29:44,160 --> 02:29:45,800
Speaker 3: All you have to do is start the game.

2968
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:48,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the reason why wins and losses make no sense.

2969
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:51,280
Speaker 4: Should not be a quarterback stat.

2970
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:54,560
Speaker 2: It's just not really And why why don't we have

2971
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:59,000
Speaker 2: that stat for every player? Why why do only quarterbacks

2972
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:00,600
Speaker 2: get credit for wins losses?

2973
02:30:00,760 --> 02:30:01,640
Speaker 9: I did not know that.

2974
02:30:01,879 --> 02:30:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that will be credited to Deshaun Watson.

2975
02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:07,879
Speaker 9: That's a stupid I can't get one.

2976
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:09,920
Speaker 2: For five five yards with the passer radio of zero

2977
02:30:09,959 --> 02:30:13,800
Speaker 2: point zero. All right, so a lot unexplained today, But

2978
02:30:13,840 --> 02:30:15,200
Speaker 2: we finally have a final there.

2979
02:30:15,240 --> 02:30:16,680
Speaker 3: Cleveland hangs on.

2980
02:30:16,760 --> 02:30:19,360
Speaker 2: They beat the Colts by a score of thirty nine

2981
02:30:19,480 --> 02:30:24,040
Speaker 2: to thirty eight. Rich I wanted to get to another

2982
02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:27,840
Speaker 2: game here that's coming up a little bit later, and

2983
02:30:27,879 --> 02:30:31,760
Speaker 2: that's the Dolphins and Eagles. So the Dolphins, the good

2984
02:30:31,800 --> 02:30:34,039
Speaker 2: news is they're five and one. The bad news is

2985
02:30:34,080 --> 02:30:37,560
Speaker 2: their five wins are against teams with a combined five wins,

2986
02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:44,120
Speaker 2: So they've won five games against teams that combined have

2987
02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:48,160
Speaker 2: won five games. The one game they played against a

2988
02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:52,280
Speaker 2: legit team they lost by four touchdowns. Then on the

2989
02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:55,280
Speaker 2: other side, you have an Eagles team that was underachieving

2990
02:30:55,879 --> 02:30:59,400
Speaker 2: and then had a complete meltdown in that loss of

2991
02:30:59,440 --> 02:31:04,680
Speaker 2: the Jet and Jalen Hurts is ordinary in terms of

2992
02:31:04,760 --> 02:31:08,800
Speaker 2: his stats this season. What is your read on this

2993
02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:11,920
Speaker 2: game where the Eagles are the obligatory three point favorite

2994
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:16,439
Speaker 2: at home on Sunday Night Football against the Dolphins.

2995
02:31:16,959 --> 02:31:21,080
Speaker 4: Well, the way I see it is Jalen Hurts is

2996
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:25,280
Speaker 4: in my opinion, still the class of the NFL at

2997
02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:25,879
Speaker 4: his position.

2998
02:31:26,280 --> 02:31:26,760
Speaker 5: Wow.

2999
02:31:27,200 --> 02:31:29,720
Speaker 4: And the reason why I say that is because there's

3000
02:31:29,879 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 4: more intangibles to playing great as a quarterback than just

3001
02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:40,360
Speaker 4: what you see statistically. It's also your durability. It's also

3002
02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:43,800
Speaker 4: those situational moments where he makes such a difference on

3003
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:46,840
Speaker 4: third and short, fourth and short, how automatic all those

3004
02:31:46,920 --> 02:31:49,800
Speaker 4: QB sneaks are. It's also what he lends to the

3005
02:31:49,879 --> 02:31:52,840
Speaker 4: run game. While his passer rating hasn't been great, what

3006
02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:55,119
Speaker 4: about what he's lending to the game and the game

3007
02:31:55,200 --> 02:31:58,960
Speaker 4: plan as opposed to other quarterbacks in his ability to

3008
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:03,280
Speaker 4: rush the football. I mean, he's just as in my opinion,

3009
02:32:03,400 --> 02:32:06,960
Speaker 4: as talented a quarterback as this league has.

3010
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:08,000
Speaker 5: He's just he's just.

3011
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:12,039
Speaker 4: Considered a system quarterback because he doesn't have gaudy stats.

3012
02:32:11,800 --> 02:32:14,360
Speaker 2: But what about his meltdown last week against the Jets.

3013
02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:17,240
Speaker 2: A couple of those interceptions were ugly.

3014
02:32:17,080 --> 02:32:19,119
Speaker 4: I agree, but he had a game like that last

3015
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:22,280
Speaker 4: year too, and he bounced back well from it. Jellen Hurts,

3016
02:32:23,080 --> 02:32:29,000
Speaker 4: nor is anybody limited to a perfect a perfect year,

3017
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:32,080
Speaker 4: or player card or clean stat sheet throughout the season.

3018
02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:34,120
Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna have a bad day at the office. There's

3019
02:32:34,160 --> 02:32:36,760
Speaker 4: no question that was one of them. That was an

3020
02:32:36,920 --> 02:32:39,720
Speaker 4: ugly day at the office. But you have to give

3021
02:32:39,760 --> 02:32:43,080
Speaker 4: credit works credits due that was against a really, really

3022
02:32:43,080 --> 02:32:47,680
Speaker 4: good defense, the Jets. Robert Sala's got that thing tuned

3023
02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:50,480
Speaker 4: up pretty pretty well defensively in New York.

3024
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:53,640
Speaker 5: They've had gafs too, But overall, I think.

3025
02:32:53,440 --> 02:32:55,600
Speaker 4: You have to you have to mark down the Jets

3026
02:32:55,640 --> 02:32:57,720
Speaker 4: as one of the more dominant defenses in this league

3027
02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:01,000
Speaker 4: and definitely one of the scarier opponents you can. And

3028
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:03,480
Speaker 4: then you look on the other side at Tua. I mean,

3029
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:07,480
Speaker 4: these are two of Nick Saban's quarterback Hurts and Tongue

3030
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:07,880
Speaker 4: of Alloa.

3031
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:10,600
Speaker 2: By the way, quick note on Tua, his passer rating

3032
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:13,960
Speaker 2: this year is thirty points higher than Jalen Hurts.

3033
02:33:14,040 --> 02:33:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, one fourteen to eighty four.

3034
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:20,439
Speaker 4: And again you discount the rushing when you concentrate solely

3035
02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:25,080
Speaker 4: on the passing effectiveness of Jalen Hurts. Right, Tua can't

3036
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:27,920
Speaker 4: do that. He cannot. He's far too fragile. He's not

3037
02:33:28,040 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 4: a good enough athlete, he's not strong enough, big enough,

3038
02:33:30,320 --> 02:33:31,959
Speaker 4: any of those things to lend a hand in the

3039
02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 4: run game. They haven't needed him also, by the way,

3040
02:33:34,879 --> 02:33:39,640
Speaker 4: because they've had an outstanding backfield with a chan who's

3041
02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:42,800
Speaker 4: now injured, but also mostert what he's been able to

3042
02:33:42,800 --> 02:33:45,840
Speaker 4: supply both in the rush game and the passing game.

3043
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:48,400
Speaker 5: This is a fun matchup.

3044
02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:49,920
Speaker 4: For me, to be perfectly honest with you, and I'm

3045
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:52,480
Speaker 4: hoping to see a great game in Philadelphia tonight on

3046
02:33:52,480 --> 02:33:55,400
Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football. I think both of these guys are

3047
02:33:55,480 --> 02:34:00,440
Speaker 4: insanely prideful players, and I feel like both of them

3048
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:04,200
Speaker 4: win healthy, and it's been more of an issue for Tua.

3049
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:08,120
Speaker 4: Both of them rise to challenges like they typically in

3050
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:12,000
Speaker 4: big moments, they don't flounder. So I'm expecting fireworks tonight.

3051
02:34:12,040 --> 02:34:14,920
Speaker 2: All right, more fireworks coming up. This is Fox Sports

3052
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:15,879
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3053
02:34:17,360 --> 02:34:18,120
Speaker 5: Out of the eye.

3054
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:22,880
Speaker 7: They need the touchdown hunt and Harris Walker gives to

3055
02:34:22,959 --> 02:34:28,920
Speaker 7: Kareem Hunt, pushing, pushing, touchdown. Kareem Hunt got it across

3056
02:34:28,959 --> 02:34:30,640
Speaker 7: the gold line.

3057
02:34:31,640 --> 02:34:34,959
Speaker 2: That's the Browns Radio network. It was close, but the

3058
02:34:34,959 --> 02:34:37,199
Speaker 2: Browns pull it out over the Colts by a score

3059
02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:40,640
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Speaker 2: dot Com. Steve Harbin, Rich Ornberger Fox Sports a red

3065
02:34:56,440 --> 02:35:00,120
Speaker 2: Zone radio live from the Tyrek dot com studios to

3066
02:35:00,160 --> 02:35:02,200
Speaker 2: thank Mance who had to run out of here. I

3067
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:04,680
Speaker 2: mean she's on her way to Disneyland right now, she said,

3068
02:35:04,760 --> 02:35:07,880
Speaker 2: So that's going to be a rough ride here for sure.

3069
02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:11,480
Speaker 2: Ryan jumping in today producing the show. Ryan, It's great

3070
02:35:11,480 --> 02:35:14,160
Speaker 2: to see he's still engaged, still engaged, still engaged. That's

3071
02:35:14,160 --> 02:35:17,080
Speaker 2: a good sign right there. Vin and Chris, I don't

3072
02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:18,960
Speaker 2: know what to say to you thirty eight to six.

3073
02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:22,520
Speaker 2: Could you have any envision of losing to the Ravens

3074
02:35:22,520 --> 02:35:26,280
Speaker 2: today with your beloved lions? Thirty eight to six, there's

3075
02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:28,840
Speaker 2: always a universe for it. Just burn this one up.

3076
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm all provy. Yeah, well, Lions are still five and two.

3077
02:35:32,959 --> 02:35:35,280
Speaker 1: It's not like they just lost the entire season off this,

3078
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:38,879
Speaker 1: So I'm still I'm going to still remain. I'm going

3079
02:35:38,920 --> 02:35:41,440
Speaker 1: to remain long, long term on this the rest of

3080
02:35:41,480 --> 02:35:43,120
Speaker 1: their schedule. This shouldn't happen again.

3081
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:46,119
Speaker 2: Well again, for a team, a good team to lose,

3082
02:35:46,800 --> 02:35:49,360
Speaker 2: you know, a traditionally good team to lose a bad

3083
02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:52,160
Speaker 2: day of the office. But when you're a traditional loser

3084
02:35:52,240 --> 02:35:53,720
Speaker 2: like the Lions have been for soul.

3085
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:55,920
Speaker 1: You don't play your history in the season. Yeah, we'll see,

3086
02:35:55,959 --> 02:35:57,280
Speaker 1: don't play your seasons.

3087
02:35:57,680 --> 02:36:01,440
Speaker 2: By the way, Rich This Chiefs Chargers game, by the way,

3088
02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:06,040
Speaker 2: tied right now, three apiece. I mean this is a

3089
02:36:06,080 --> 02:36:09,480
Speaker 2: team that is given the Chiefs fits. Oh, I mean

3090
02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:12,400
Speaker 2: last year the Chiefs swept the two games, both by

3091
02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:17,080
Speaker 2: three points. There are other two wins since Justin Herbert

3092
02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:20,520
Speaker 2: took over as the Chargers quarterback for the Chiefs were

3093
02:36:20,560 --> 02:36:28,600
Speaker 2: overtime wins. So for whatever reason, they have played very competitive. Now,

3094
02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:31,720
Speaker 2: you know, did you ever find yourself when you're playing

3095
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:36,280
Speaker 2: against a top tier opponent, whether it was conscious or not,

3096
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:39,680
Speaker 2: of just sort of raising your game a little bit.

3097
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:40,440
Speaker 5: Of course.

3098
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:45,600
Speaker 4: Of course, you know there are teams that you battle

3099
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:48,520
Speaker 4: throughout the course of your career or during your time

3100
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:51,800
Speaker 4: with a certain team that you kind of feel like

3101
02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:54,760
Speaker 4: you have to And let's face it, the Chiefs are

3102
02:36:54,840 --> 02:36:58,279
Speaker 4: kind of in that situation. No matter who they're playing exactly,

3103
02:36:58,520 --> 02:37:00,680
Speaker 4: they're going to have a target on the back because

3104
02:37:00,720 --> 02:37:03,880
Speaker 4: everybody wants to say they beat the Chiefs, they beat

3105
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:07,920
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, they cracked the code, so to speak, against

3106
02:37:07,959 --> 02:37:11,400
Speaker 4: Andy Reid and a Chiefs team that has really rained

3107
02:37:11,480 --> 02:37:15,039
Speaker 4: dominant over the league since Patrick Mahomes has become their

3108
02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:18,879
Speaker 4: starting quarterbacks. So the Chiefs are certainly used to it.

3109
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:21,720
Speaker 4: The Chargers being a division rival, knowing they have to

3110
02:37:21,760 --> 02:37:24,720
Speaker 4: face them twice a year, they're going to be rated

3111
02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:29,800
Speaker 4: against the Chiefs. I mean, until the Chargers start winning

3112
02:37:29,920 --> 02:37:33,400
Speaker 4: half or more of these matchups against Kansas City, they're

3113
02:37:33,440 --> 02:37:39,160
Speaker 4: going to be somewhere below them in the mind's eye

3114
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:42,440
Speaker 4: of the public zeitgeist, like you just you have to

3115
02:37:42,480 --> 02:37:44,800
Speaker 4: be competitive against the best team in your division of.

3116
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Naigeist just work that in there. Wow, Yeah, I was like,

3117
02:37:50,280 --> 02:37:52,160
Speaker 2: when he's going to sneak that word in.

3118
02:37:52,600 --> 02:37:56,920
Speaker 4: It's just just hovering somewhere in the ether.

3119
02:37:57,280 --> 02:37:58,920
Speaker 3: Wow, that was impressive.

3120
02:37:59,040 --> 02:38:01,480
Speaker 2: And at that plane we're getting all the set words out.

3121
02:38:01,520 --> 02:38:02,279
Speaker 5: Now, what I'm.

3122
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,720
Speaker 4: Trying to make is, you know this says you have

3123
02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:09,520
Speaker 4: to play at a superlative level to really come close.

3124
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:12,440
Speaker 2: See, I would have just at a really high level.

3125
02:38:12,560 --> 02:38:15,040
Speaker 3: And then you're like, what what do you mean by high?

3126
02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:18,920
Speaker 4: I mean it's cochetable to see the Chargers pull off

3127
02:38:18,920 --> 02:38:19,959
Speaker 4: a win on the road.

3128
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:21,480
Speaker 5: No, I mean that's it's happened.

3129
02:38:21,560 --> 02:38:23,720
Speaker 2: No, it absolutely And by the way, that game is

3130
02:38:23,760 --> 02:38:27,240
Speaker 2: already into the second quarter, so that didn't take long

3131
02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:29,560
Speaker 2: to get the second quarter. Same thing with the Cardinals

3132
02:38:29,560 --> 02:38:32,760
Speaker 2: and the Seahawks. Seahawks lead the Cards by a score

3133
02:38:32,879 --> 02:38:35,440
Speaker 2: of seven to three. Broncos with the early three to

3134
02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:39,360
Speaker 2: nothing lead against the Packers and the Steelers leading the

3135
02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Rams three nothing, Broncos one in five, zero to three

3136
02:38:42,680 --> 02:38:43,280
Speaker 2: at home.

3137
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:45,440
Speaker 3: How's it going for Sean Payton?

3138
02:38:45,520 --> 02:38:45,600
Speaker 17: Right?

3139
02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:49,840
Speaker 4: The offense has been in autumn time this morning so far,

3140
02:38:49,959 --> 02:38:54,520
Speaker 4: I should say this afternoon, which means immobile. The point

3141
02:38:54,600 --> 02:38:58,680
Speaker 4: is Sean Payton was paid to come in and resurrect

3142
02:38:58,720 --> 02:39:03,039
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson to cure him of the twenty dirty hands

3143
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:06,880
Speaker 4: or whatever the quote was this offseason to cure him

3144
02:39:07,080 --> 02:39:11,760
Speaker 4: of the worst coaching job in NFL history, as I'm

3145
02:39:11,800 --> 02:39:13,560
Speaker 4: paraphrasing for Sean Payton.

3146
02:39:13,800 --> 02:39:16,200
Speaker 5: As it were, and he hasn't done it.

3147
02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:20,720
Speaker 4: This team looks worse to me than it did under

3148
02:39:20,840 --> 02:39:21,840
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett.

3149
02:39:22,120 --> 02:39:22,920
Speaker 5: It just does.

3150
02:39:23,360 --> 02:39:27,039
Speaker 4: I mean, the record's worse, the I feel like the

3151
02:39:27,080 --> 02:39:31,000
Speaker 4: attitude is worse. I've seen, I've seen, I saw. I

3152
02:39:31,040 --> 02:39:33,600
Speaker 4: believe I saw more effort from the players on the

3153
02:39:33,640 --> 02:39:36,480
Speaker 4: field last year. It looks like Jerry Judy has all

3154
02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:39,840
Speaker 4: but quit on this season. He's been wrung up by

3155
02:39:39,879 --> 02:39:44,600
Speaker 4: Mark Schlereth, Fox Sports analyst. Also Steve Smith has given

3156
02:39:44,680 --> 02:39:46,400
Speaker 4: him and they've actually.

3157
02:39:46,160 --> 02:39:47,119
Speaker 5: Had war words.

3158
02:39:47,600 --> 02:39:49,520
Speaker 4: So I don't know what's next for Sean Payton, but

3159
02:39:50,360 --> 02:39:52,920
Speaker 4: I'm guessing he's going to be in Denver next year,

3160
02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:54,959
Speaker 4: and I'm guessing he's going to try to move off

3161
02:39:55,000 --> 02:39:56,440
Speaker 4: of Russell Wilson if he can.

3162
02:39:56,680 --> 02:39:58,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an interesting battle for worst team in

3163
02:39:59,000 --> 02:39:59,960
Speaker 2: the NFL this year.

3164
02:40:00,680 --> 02:40:02,280
Speaker 3: It's too early, too early to.

3165
02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:04,360
Speaker 2: Tell, but boy, there are a lot of teens very

3166
02:40:04,400 --> 02:40:07,120
Speaker 2: much in the running, all right, so much more coming up.

3167
02:40:07,160 --> 02:40:10,360
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, folks, this is Fox Sports Radio.