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Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa Mouth part of the

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Speaker 1: Game which ye welcome back to The Truth with Lisa Booth.

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Speaker 1: This week, we're digging in to one of the most

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Speaker 1: contentious political issues in the country. Abortion. The whole point

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Speaker 1: of this show, the whole point of this podcast is

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Speaker 1: to not get at issues on a surface level, but

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Speaker 1: to dig in to get to the truth. And that's

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Speaker 1: what we're going to do on this issue without fear,

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Speaker 1: rejecting PC culture, rejecting the mainstream narrative. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get into some of the uncomfortable truths around abortion. You

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Speaker 1: know what, the left doesn't want you to know. They

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know about the truth of abortion.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to let you know that the largest

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Speaker 1: abortion provider, Planned Parenthood, was founded by a racist who

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Speaker 1: hold well held eugenic beliefs. So they lie, they omit,

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Speaker 1: they mislead, they deflect, and they demonize pro lifers And

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Speaker 1: how can you blame them, because imagine if Americans knew

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Speaker 1: the truth, if they knew about Planned Parenthood, if they

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Speaker 1: knew what happens during late term abortions, they would be outraged,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so. So my plan with this episode is

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Speaker 1: through the misinformation that is fed to you by the

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Speaker 1: media and the left, and expose the dark underbelly of

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Speaker 1: planned parenthood and abortion. We're going to get to the truth.

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Speaker 1: And to help me out is this week's guest, Marjorie

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Speaker 1: dannen Felser, who's the President of the Susan B. Anthony List. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know much about the Susan B. Anthony List,

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Speaker 1: it's a nationwide network of pro life Americans dedicated to

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Speaker 1: ending abortion in this country by electing national leaders and

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Speaker 1: advocating for laws that will save lives. Susan B. Anthony

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Speaker 1: and it's superPAC Women Speak Out, raised more than sixty

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Speaker 1: one million in the election and helped elect the largest

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Speaker 1: incoming class of pro life congresswoman in history. And that

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Speaker 1: was all with Marjorie's help. She's also the author of

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Speaker 1: Their Mothers, and last year she was again named the

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Speaker 1: national co chair of Pro Life Voices for Trump Coalition,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to have this week's guest, Susan B

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Speaker 1: Anthony President Marjorie Dannenfelzer on this podcast, Marjorie thinks so

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Speaker 1: much for taking the time for the truth with Lisa Booth.

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Speaker 1: So it's a treat. I'm a big fan. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of yours as well. You know, how

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Speaker 1: Well I was very adamantly um pro choice. I was

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Speaker 1: UM and a lot just fast forward through the years.

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Speaker 1: And to take that chance is to take a chance

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Speaker 1: And what's so interesting is democrats and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: So who drives women to those deeds? Now? She of

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Speaker 1: so long? It is truly pen that completely on the media. UM.

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Speaker 1: I can just say that having tried to promote the

430
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Speaker 1: the real image, the real, the reality, the truth of

431
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: the plant Parenthood for over thirty years, um, there was

432
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Speaker 1: no penetrating the media. And you know why. It's because

433
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: Clan Parenthood is just a great civic association. It's just

434
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: they just help people plan families. What is wrong with that?

435
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: That's what I used to think. I thought, what why

436
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: are people Vella buying this organization that's just helping women.

437
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: Most people don't know the the their their main product

438
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: is abortion. That's there. That's the business model that they

439
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: run is it's it is entirely abortion centered. So how

440
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: they've gotten away with it has been a variety of things,

441
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: mainly the media, mainly politicians who also on our side

442
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: while long ago, who were just chicken not willing to

443
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: raise the mantle of getting our taxes out of their business. Um.

444
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: But I would say this, Um, there's a you know,

445
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: it's kind of pathetic that we would actually cheer that

446
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: they've decided, oh well, we don't like Marcus Sanger anymore,

447
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: so we're not going to talk about her. We're going

448
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: to take her name off our award. I mean that

449
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: is a modicum of progress, definitely. Um. But it's even

450
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: when I keep saying that their movement isn't holding the center,

451
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: isn't holding that that very little piece of evidence is

452
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: I think one of the most significant planned parenthoods are

453
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: closing all over the country. They're having to centralize into

454
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: large abortion factories, especially at borders, because they see laws changing.

455
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Their own employees in New York who who wouldn't say,

456
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't take um, the mistreat their own mistreatment and the

457
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: racism within the walls of Planned Parenthood corporate walked out

458
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: and said, this is what we see, and this is

459
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: what we think. After a while, your misdeeds catch up

460
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: with you. You really cannot get it. You can't um.

461
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: Once it's become public, especially UH move you know, move

462
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: in the same mode that you did forever and expect

463
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: and expect good things to come your way. So UM,

464
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: I think that uh people are beginning to see them

465
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: for who they are. But it's partly because you're willing

466
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Our politicians are on our side,

467
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: are willing to talk about it. We just need to

468
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: get our money out of there. The viewpoint of Margaret

469
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: Sanger and the racist viewpoint and eugen X that planned

470
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: aren't was founded upon. They're carrying that out today. I mean,

471
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: is it not a fair statement to say that in

472
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: New York City more black babies are aborted than born? Yeah?

473
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: Every day. No, I mean getting you know, getting marginally better.

474
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: It does not take away from the unbelievable memorl crisis

475
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: that they have resented the country. Yeah, that is true,

476
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: more babies are are aborted than born in New York.

477
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: But black baby is correct. So the legacy lives on.

478
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, how is that, How is that not carrying

479
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: out Margaret Sanger's vision today. Well, here's here's how they

480
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: put it, so you you can take this for what

481
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: it is. They they say that they are going into

482
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: as long as abortion is legal, will go into poor

483
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: neighborhoods and help women who were there. It happens that

484
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: black women predominantly disproportionately are living in poor neighborhoods. So

485
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: that's why we're there now. Of course, if you believe

486
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: in abortion, if you think abortion is fun, if you

487
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: think it's like an appendex to me, you can see

488
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: yourself thinking that way. It's an abomination. It is. If

489
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: you are a community leader in a in a predominantly

490
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: black neighborhood, you have to see how this is stealing

491
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: your generate generations and stealing the people who may bring

492
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 1: everybody out of poverty. But if you think of it

493
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: as you know, but if you if you think it's

494
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: just solving somebody's problems, it's not a big deal. You know,

495
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: that's how they think about it, you know, Just to

496
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: go on record here, I don't see the disconnect between

497
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: someone who founded an organization who quote unquote, we don't

498
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: want the word to get out that we want to

499
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: exterminate the Negro population. And then fast forward to today

500
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: and you have cities like New York City where more

501
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: Black babies are aborted than born, and you have Planned

502
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: Parenthood being the largest abortion provider in the nation. I

503
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: just I don't think that you can disconnect what Planned

504
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: parent would was founded upon and then what they are

505
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: carrying out today. And then I don't understand how the left,

506
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: who purports to believe in equal why rights, who purport

507
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: to be defenders and fighters for you know, black people

508
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and minority communities, can support an organization that was founded

509
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: and rooted upot racism and it is still carrying out

510
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: that vision today. But that's me saying this and going

511
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: on record about that, you know, Marjorie Oh, I want

512
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: to get to some of the big legislative fights that

513
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: are ahead of us right now in terms of the

514
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: issue of life. What is the Woman's Health Protection Act?

515
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: The Women's Health Protection Act is the newest version of

516
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: the Democrats bill to basically federalize but go even even

517
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: further than ROVERSUS way. So it basically um puts into

518
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: law that a woman can have an abortion for any

519
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: reason up until up until birth and and it um

520
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: and also would eliminate also a lot of other uh,

521
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of other laws around the country, like waiting

522
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: periods or all sorts of sort of legislating that goes

523
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Speaker 1: around abortion often. So it's basically making it a federal issue,

524
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: to taking all the power of all the states away, um,

525
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: to to enact its own laws in case we ever

526
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Speaker 1: get a chance to do that on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Um and um. You know it's it was a it

528
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: was on the floor just recently. One of the most

529
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: hideous debates that that ever happens is is this particular debate.

530
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: It was dominated by women on our side. It was

531
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Speaker 1: a beautiful chance to put the lie to somehow this

532
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: is the great liberation of women. Um. That's that is

533
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: what that federal legislation is. They didn't even have a

534
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: hearing on it on the House side. They just took

535
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: it right to the floor, um and um. And it

536
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: did not pass, and it will will not pass the Senate.

537
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: But it is a messaging issue document for them. It's

538
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: what their hopes and aspirations are. It's how they'll they

539
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: choose their candidates. You can't be a Democratic candidate without

540
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: endorsing that measure. UM. It just puts them exactly where

541
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: they locates them on the spectrum, exactly where they are

542
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: at the most extreme you can possibly be. Uh. And

543
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: right now, of course, our every and that I support

544
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: UM for any position at any level of public office,

545
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: opposes abortion, all all abortions. UM. But what they're pressing

546
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: for is let's just at least allow consensus somewhere to

547
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: make its way in the law and allow it to

548
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: go into effect. And what you're going to find is

549
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: that you'll have in states all over the place and

550
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: on the federal level something better than that, something better

551
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: than abortion up until birth. Talk about the importance of

552
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: the upcoming Dobbs case and what that means and why

553
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: should people should care about it? Well, it's the first

554
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: most important thing. It's the thing that everyone should be

555
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: talking about. Who cares about this even a little bit?

556
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Because what happens in this Supreme Court case that is

557
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: that is UM looking at the constitutionality of a Mississippi

558
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: fifteen week limit. Uh. Is this They're going to answer

559
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: only one questions. What the courts that they will answer

560
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: are any pre viability abortion that's constitutional anything before viability.

561
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: The viability is about about twenty two weeks UM, so

562
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Speaker 1: we believe that they would not have taken it up

563
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: if they weren't willing to make something better. But just

564
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: keep in mind the reason this is being asked is

565
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: because it is because pretty much any restriction, any limit

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Speaker 1: in the entire country that has passed and the last

567
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: their last eight years, any any ambitious gestational limit at

568
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: all has been struck down or they haven't challenged it.

569
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Speaker 1: But but because they don't because the other side doesn't

570
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: want to be going against a twenty week limit because

571
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: it makes them look bad. But under row it is

572
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: it is literally, you know, quote unconstitutional. So if the

573
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Speaker 1: court decides um with us that roversus wage should be

574
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: overturned um, then this takes the battle completely to the states,

575
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: and the federal government will responsibility to do what we

576
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: should do too as a nation and what we stand for.

577
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: But but now if this happens, there will be of

578
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: fifty state question mark question marks hanging over these capital

579
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: of fifty states. What are you going to do? What

580
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: is the consensus in your state, and what are you

581
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: going to do to allow it to come into come

582
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: into reality by making it a law, so the it

583
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: is the most important thing that it's happened since reverse

584
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: is weighed. UM. Out of fifty European nations m have

585
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: abortion restrictions before fifteen weeks or before. And we're talking

586
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: about Sweden, We're talking about Italy, Spain, France, you know,

587
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: countries that are far more liberal than us in other areas.

588
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: We're one and we're one of only seven nations that

589
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: allowed abortion after twenty weeks. It's just we were such

590
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: outliers because of reverses WHITE. If this happens, If if

591
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: dobbs UM does end up in next June UM with

592
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: an overturn of we wait, or even a partial overturn UM,

593
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: it will mean the saving of the lives of millions

594
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: of babies in the future without question, whereas now the

595
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: answer is basically close to zero UM and and UM

596
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: well obviously largely impact the midterm elections, which is the

597
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: second reason why we need to be talking about this.

598
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: Our politicians are governors, UM are every single elected official

599
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: in the country. H needs to be doing a deep

600
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: dive on what what they and their UM constituents UH

601
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: want to see in the law. It is a potential

602
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: springtime for life in this country. And I think it's

603
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: going to change us in more than one way. It's

604
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: not just many children being allowed to be born. It's

605
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: going to change us and our souls, and it's going

606
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: to start to heal the great scar in our country

607
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: that abortion has brought about after so many years. Well,

608
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: and you'd reference Texas as well, that just passed into law,

609
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: a heartbeat law in this state of Texas that has

610
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: drawn the ire of the left. You know, how do

611
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: you you just mentioned the mid terms as well. You know,

612
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Speaker 1: how do you think some of these big pro life

613
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: fights that are happening right now, what's the impact on

614
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: the mid terms. I think it's waking people up to

615
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: realize we need to figure out what we want for

616
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: our state. So the only reason that anybody knows anything

617
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: about Texas is that it's the only state because of

618
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: it's creative enforcement mechanism, it went into effect, but it's

619
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Speaker 1: the only law like that since ninety three that have

620
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Speaker 1: gone into effect. That's why people are paying such close

621
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Speaker 1: attention to it, and paying close attention to it just

622
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: like in your show, gets people too closer to the

623
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: truth about what this is and what they want for

624
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: their own states. If you want to be a pro

625
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: life state, what does that look like? Where do we limited?

626
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: How do we help women? It's it is. It is

627
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Speaker 1: the activity of a of a nation with a conscience.

628
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: So it will in fact of or suffect the midterm elections.

629
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Speaker 1: Texas is just part and parcel of the Dobb's decision.

630
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: If that Dobb decision comes down our way, Texas will

631
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: be a footnote. Texas will just be what won't be

632
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: necessary for them to have a creative enforcement mechanism. It

633
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: just if the states are allowed to enact their own laws,

634
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: they'll just go ahead and do it. Um. That's what

635
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean about the revolution that this is and why

636
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: the left is so GenEd up. Planned parenthood is feeling

637
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: the existential threat. They're digging in their heels and raising

638
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: money like you've never seen. Uh. And it will be

639
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: a big would be a big moment, without question. And

640
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: to that effect, you know what kind of stranglehold does

641
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood have on the left. It's complete. You either

642
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: succumbed to our extreme agenda or we will not only

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Speaker 1: not endorse you, will oppose you. Uh and uh. There

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Speaker 1: they have a perfect have a perfect from their perspective

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Speaker 1: situation where a cycle of money that comes um in

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Speaker 1: in perfect harmony with their needs to abort the America,

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Speaker 1: especially minorities, and then their ability to lobby. They received

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Speaker 1: money from federal and state government so that they can

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Speaker 1: lobby state, state, and federal governments and aboard our children,

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Speaker 1: um and um and and they do this in freedom.

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Speaker 1: They do this in utter freedom. So that's why they

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Speaker 1: have such an incredibly strong base. Even if they don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily always reflect the will of the people. They have

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Speaker 1: a sweet deal with federal and state governments to be

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Speaker 1: able to do this. So they'll be ready. The whole

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Speaker 1: abortion left. Um, we'll be ready. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: the pro life movement is getting ready. And I think

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Speaker 1: and I and I know that our movement is much

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Speaker 1: more vast just in the hearts and the wills of

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Speaker 1: the people. And every election since except for this past election, Um,

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Speaker 1: the pro life movement has been responsible for winning in

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Speaker 1: battleground states over and over and over again, and now

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Speaker 1: ledge bust senators and congressman and presidential candidates. And that's

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Speaker 1: where we have to be again. Well, and I think

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Speaker 1: to the further to the left that Democrats get on

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Speaker 1: issue of life, the more they're going to push reasonable

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Speaker 1: minded people towards the issue of life. I mean, for instance,

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Speaker 1: Democrats used to support the Heighth Amendment, which bans taxpayer

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Speaker 1: funded abortions. Yet now you have even Joe Biden supporting

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Speaker 1: the High Amendment, supporting or against the High Amendment, supporting

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Speaker 1: tax fair abortions. And I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who even support abortion wouldn't support taxpayers having to fund

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Speaker 1: something that they are so vehemently against. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a race to the bottom for them. They've gotten

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Speaker 1: more as a country has gotten more pro life, they

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Speaker 1: have gotten more extreme. So it's an ideal, honestly political

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Speaker 1: situation for us because they're saying, we want every single abortion,

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Speaker 1: you should not help them if they're born alive, and

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Speaker 1: you should be paying for a taxpayer all of it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They they've been willing to embrace the most the positions

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Speaker 1: embraced only by a tiny minority because of the fear

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Speaker 1: of their base, their fear of planned parenthood, um, and

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Speaker 1: their fear of what happens if they don't start off

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Speaker 1: on all that. I just think Lisa this moment that

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Speaker 1: we're moving into where states are going to start, I

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Speaker 1: believe they're gonna start passing laws that that limit abortion

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Speaker 1: and whatever that state actually thinks it should be. So

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Speaker 1: say it said after the first trimester, which is what

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Speaker 1: most of the country believe that it should be after

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Speaker 1: the first trimester. Say you do that, and then you

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Speaker 1: still have a party that cannot relent on on abortion

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Speaker 1: up until birth and you have to pay for it.

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Speaker 1: That contrast doesn't work for a political party in the

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Speaker 1: long term. I actually think that they're that there, and

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Speaker 1: and and we have to force this that there will

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Speaker 1: be a point where they start to revert back to

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Speaker 1: where they were before, which is okay, you guys, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to give a little bit more to auciences.

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Speaker 1: Are gonna have to be some more conscience votes, or

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Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot run in this state as an

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Speaker 1: abortion until birth candidate, you know, and I mean even

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Speaker 1: in places like you know, Minnesota or put non red

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Speaker 1: state places, but certainly in red state places. I mean, seriously,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be for you to force the Democratic

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Speaker 1: candidate in South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, Louisiana to be

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Speaker 1: um abortion until birth and you pay it to candidate

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Speaker 1: just not gonna work in the long term. Well, and

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Speaker 1: you had mentioned that the country is becoming increasingly pro

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Speaker 1: life and Democrats are getting increasingly you know, anti life.

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Speaker 1: So you could almost say that there's a correlation potentially

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Speaker 1: between the two that the further or the left that

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Speaker 1: Democrats get on this issue, the more callous they get

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Speaker 1: on the issue of life. Potentially that's driving people, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, to open their eyes on this issue. But

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Speaker 1: you know, any any lasting thoughts you want to leave

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Speaker 1: before we go, I don't just think that if you

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Speaker 1: care about this issue even a little bit, or if

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Speaker 1: you can care about it a lot, if you've been

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines before, it's time to get off. If

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Speaker 1: you've been in the ring already, it's the place where

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Speaker 1: you are needed desperately. Um. Every single political race, every

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Speaker 1: single skate, every household is going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: this very soon, if they aren't already, because of the

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Speaker 1: giant impact of this Supreme Court decision next June. So

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Speaker 1: I guess I would just ask anyone who's any has

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Speaker 1: any interest whatsoever to dig in. I love your show

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Speaker 1: because that's what you do. Dig in and get involved

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Speaker 1: because this is your day. And how can people get involved.

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Speaker 1: They can go on our website and find out about

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Speaker 1: Susan b Anthony List. Just google Susan d'ancy list, Susan

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Speaker 1: b Anthony Lists, and everything will pop up every way

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Speaker 1: that you could get involved. You can find out about

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Speaker 1: the laws of your state, how to get involved in

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Speaker 1: your state, what elections are surrounding you, either federal or

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Speaker 1: state uh and also how you can lobby when there

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Speaker 1: are important things happening on Capitol Hill or in your state. Marjorie,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining The Truth with Lisa Booth.

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Speaker 1: I so appreciate your time. There's a gift to me

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Speaker 1: and to the pro life movement, So thank you, Lisa.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Marjorie, Dan and Felser again for

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Speaker 1: a great interview, and I want to thank you guys

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Speaker 1: at home for listening. Look, this show cannot be made

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Speaker 1: possible without you. We're trying to get to the truth

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Speaker 1: democrats and the left are trying to reright the truth

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