WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Contract Talk; Coaches Confirmed 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:03.880 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:10.760 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:15.120 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.480 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:25.639 Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.040 Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, February twenty first two Thy eighteen, 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.000 season thirteen, episode number one h three. Welcome to another 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.200 edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.000 Studios at the start, joined by Nick Eatman and David Hellman. 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.520 Amber Garcia is not with us today. She is out 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.960 vacationing on the Beautiful Eye on the island of the 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.280 Dominican Republic. We'll be back with us hopefully next week, 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.800 actually the week after that, because next week, Dave, we'll 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.200 be out at the Combine and we'll be doing draft 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.200 shows all week. Next week, last week of the year. Yeah, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.960 So we'll be back on the air after this show. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.440 We're back on the air in two weeks to talk 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.720 some more Cowboys footbast The best week of the year 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.000 for you, just or just in football, not every year. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.280 I say, like, there's a lot of ways you delimit that, 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.480 and I still don't think it's true in any of them. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.560 I it's usually five degrees and you get to watch 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.680 people in their underwear. It's true. It's just it's maybe 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.240 he likes it. It's the whole. It's Tommy John. It's maybe, well, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.480 I'll have the Tommy John. I can't speak for the players. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.800 They'll probably be wearing something else. It's the whole, the 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.720 whole kitten kaboodle. Like everybody in the league is there, 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.880 and like the power brokers are there, and people are 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.600 having meetings and doing stuff that's going to shape the 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.760 league and all, like everybody in the media is there. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.640 So you get to see friends that you don't see 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.560 that often. Maybe you get to go out and get 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.000 dreat dinner or drinks with people you don't see that often. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.800 And obviously you get to you know, talk to and 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.520 look at this incoming crop of draft guys, which if 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.000 you're into the draft, that's really exciting. And the Joneses 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.240 are gonna tell us some stuff about what's going on 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.640 with the team. So it's just I mean sure, short 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.520 of actually playing games, it's probably the most fun thing 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.640 that happens on the Cowboys speed Any chance you can 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.440 find me a social media person while you're out there, 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.880 everybody around the leagues there, based on the way the 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.280 last twenty four hours have gone, I bet you I'll 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.640 get asked probably bring me twenty I'll be asked about 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.600 it a couple dozen times. If I had to guess, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.200 it's maybe like the hottest job we've ever listed. It's unbelievable. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:23.880 I swear everybody in our office has brought me at 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.200 least one person. It's well, you just opened it up. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:28.880 Well when I put it out on Twitter, I got 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.960 plenty of responses there break listeners tweet at Derek Eagleton. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.799 I mean, are looking for a social media coordinators. It's 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.160 one of the few jobs that like everybody in the 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.840 world already does or thinks they can do. Well no, no, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.880 but they coordinate their own social media. Yeah, but that's 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.720 a that's a loosely used term. It coordinates. But I'm 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.840 just saying I've got Twitter, I've got Facebook, I can 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.959 do this, right. That's what they think, no doubt. That's 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.320 when they think. Derek puts their applications on the floor immediately. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.960 I don't do it that that abruptly, not that harshly. Okay, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.880 but all right, so let's get it. Let's get to it. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.160 We got a lot of things I want to talk 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.919 about today. I want to, at some point talk a 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.400 little bit about this franchise tag that the Cowboys are 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.800 expected to use on DeMarcus Lawrence. Let's talk little. We're 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.400 gonna talk a little bit about what that will mean 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.320 for the team and how it may affect free agency. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.600 I want to talk about one particular player that has 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.600 already been tagged that and how that could or could 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.399 not affect the Cowboys. I want to talk a little 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.440 bit about Combine. Actually, Dave, we're gonna give you an 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.760 opportunity to give us some names for those of us 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.160 who are not the draft nuts that have been listening 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.000 to the Draft show every show, some names of people 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.960 maybe we can follow at the combine next we can 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.920 keep an eye on. But before we do that, Nick, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.360 I know, there was a little bit of a news 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.240 report that we're kind of expecting to come out here 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.040 over the next couple of days. It seems like there's 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.640 nothing official at this point, but it seems like there 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.880 are The Cowboys have kind of in putting the pieces 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.120 together that they've gotten no point where they kind of 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.080 have their coaching staff ready. We would expect that in 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.040 the next few days or maybe an announcement on that. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.800 What do we know at this point? I expect it 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.880 somewhere today between two and five is where I when 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.960 I expect that tell people why. I mean, like, well, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.480 we have a company event that for our group to 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.000 we're all going to be somewhere between two and five. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.560 And typically when that happens is a good times gets broken. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:21.120 So it's not really breaking news because most of the 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.599 positions on the coaching staff that we've been talking about, 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.359 we've already kind of loosely reported. For the Cowboys for 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.160 some reason, have decided to lump all these in together 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.400 for coaching even though they're here, they're they're wearing the 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.400 Blue Star, they're eating, so they're kind of already on staff. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.719 But but what we'll get all of the entire coaching moves, 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.719 and some of them are guys that are moving around. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.560 So just to kind of highlight that in case you've 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.680 been keeping up with the little bits of the new 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.880 hires include offensive line coach Paul Alexander has been with 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.479 the Bengals for many many years. Um, Sanjay Lal is 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.320 the wide receivers coach. Ye, the new receivers coach, Been 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.560 Bloom is moving from UM just I guess special projects 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.160 to he'll be the linebacker coach, replacing Madiberflus was in Indianapolis. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.839 Still Uh. Um Keith O'Quinn is the actually new special 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:17.120 teams UH coordinator, replacing Rich Bisaccia. And then um those 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.120 are oh also and probably the biggest news sorry, the 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.799 biggest name is Chris Richard is the UM secondary coach. 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:29.719 And in my opinion, I think that the new Eberflus 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.159 on this staff of the guy that could move his 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.640 way into a coordinator's position he had in Seattle, and 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.680 Seattle's defense was really good obviously, and the secondary was 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.599 the best part of that. Yeah. Other other names, assistant guys, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.920 stuff like that. Am I missing another position? Tight ends coach? 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:49.600 Did they settle on one? Yeah? They did? They they too. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.080 I've forgotten, No, it's uh that we we've we announced it. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.360 I forgot exactly what his name was. Yeah. Um, they 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.119 also are gonna hire assistant special team's coach. Are actually 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.760 a defensive assistant ken a motto that that hasn't been 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.120 announced yet. Oh yeah, it was Doug Yer. Forgot about that. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.000 Of all the guys that kind of an LSU for 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.960 six days for like a cup of coffee. Yeah, for 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.159 all the guys that we've kind of pieced together here, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.719 just kind of following you know what's happening with individual guys. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.120 Is there any particular area where you feel like the 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.720 Cowboys upgraded or downgraded? Is there any I mean, it's 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.920 hard to say with a coach that they downgraded because 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.120 you just don't know what he's going to bring to 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.280 the table until you see the results of what he does. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.040 But but even from the standpoint of just like upgraded, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.159 do you think there's an area you feel better about 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.600 that position with whoever they brought in versus who was 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.320 here last Yeah. Paul Alexander, I mean Paul Alexander to 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.479 me is he's got so many years twenty five, twenty 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.160 seven years with the Bengals. I think that you know, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.880 he's worked with players, developed them into all pros, into 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.520 Pro Bowls. Now he's dealing with some first round guys 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.520 that have already established there can take really great players 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.080 maybe to another level. He's somebody that i've think can 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.080 help this team. But there's two more that I would pick. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.760 We'll see what. The obvious one is Richard, which I 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.880 feel bad saying that he's like an upgrade over Mattiberflus, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.880 because I think Matti Berflus was a hell of a coach. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.280 But I mean, you're getting a guy who was a 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.560 coordinator last year for one of them, and has been 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.480 involved with one of the best defenses in the league, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.440 and whose specialty is defensive backs. You just, I mean, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.520 you got to view that as as pretty exciting when 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.720 you consider the resources this team is spent on defensive 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.320 back in the last year or so. So, you know, 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.240 and we've heard reports that Byron Jones might be moving 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.960 to corner and Cheeto Woozier might be playing safety and 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.400 all that whatever. I don't I don't know, and it 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.280 seems unnecessary to speculate about it right now, to be honest, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.760 But but I mean, a guy like that having an 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.240 influence on all those young dbs can only be a 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.920 good thing. So, and you know, we hear the word 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.160 coach a lot, which typically don't call them teachers, but 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.800 there's one guy that has been dubbed that a lot, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.280 as this Sanjay Law from He's been different places as 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.400 a wide receivers coach, but a really good teacher is 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:08.760 what he keeps getting uh categorized as in this team, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.840 this wide receiver group needs to be taught I think better. 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.240 I mean when it comes to to route running, when 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.280 it comes to scheme one of what we're doing with 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.800 different coverages and so um. Hopefully if he can do that. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.640 And I don't know what's going to happen receivers is 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.160 you know, that's a whole other show. But if des 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.960 does come back, let's give him the opportunity to have 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.160 a different voice in the room a little bit, because 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.600 I mean no offense to Derek Duly, but but I 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.160 don't those receivers were kind of doing their own thing, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.559 and I think they needed a different voice. Whether or 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.360 not they got the right one, they needed a different voice. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.800 I'll paraphrase quote I saw from from coach Alisle about 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.679 is that how you pronounce it? Um? But one of 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.360 the quote that I'll paraphrase it, it was basically saying 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.600 that he believes in the art of route running and 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.120 he believes that that's something that you have that that 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.560 that is the most important characteristic of wide receivers that 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.640 you have to work on. If that's the case, and 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.079 if he rings that mentality here, I think it can 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.560 only be good for this this wide receiving corps, which 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.240 again I don't think they're bad wide receivers. I just 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.520 don't think that they have not none of them in 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:14.800 my opinion, other than maybe Cole is really quick, extremely 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.400 quick or fast enough that even without great route running, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.480 they're going to get open um. But great route running 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.920 makes guys who are okay like kind of fast, makes 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.200 them much faster. It makes them play much faster. I think. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.199 So if you can get that, I think I think 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.920 that helps helps your quarterback too. And knowing where the 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.440 guy will will be at all times, when we know 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.080 what kind of rout he's gonna run, and you know 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:39.960 and he has a good understanding, they've got to be 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.000 on the same page. I mean, something's got to change 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.080 with the receiver position. Whether they're gonna be If it's 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.760 not personnel, which it will be a little bit. If 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.600 it's not contract um, it's gonna have to be their performance. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.360 And I think maybe you know different guy in the 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.120 room will help. So those three he said it, Richard 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.959 uh Sanjay Lyle, and I think Paul I was the 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.560 inner or the three that are I think maybe the 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.280 biggest changes there, I would agree. I mean, this is 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.280 in my opinion, I think Richard is the biggest of 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.920 the three because the thing that those two units have 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.360 in common, the offensive line and the wide receivers, is 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.560 they're full of veteran guys, whereas with the exception of 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.560 Orlando Scandric true, everybody in the secondary is, you know, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.240 year three or younger. So I mean now, well, yeah, 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.760 I mean, yeah, absolutely. I mean that we don't know 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.600 what's gonna I mean, you don't really know. I mean, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.680 if you were and if you went down the list, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.560 if you went down the list and looked at you know, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.520 if you just said, hey, give me a name of 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.200 a veteran player that's been here for a while, that 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.080 if you thought he wasn't going to be here next year, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.040 the most likely one not to be here next year. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.839 I think more often than that, you probably here Orlando's name. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.440 That doesn't mean it's going to happen that he will 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.600 will not be here, but I think there's at least 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.520 some you know, some people believe that there's a good 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.959 chance he won't be speculation every year about anybody that's 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.360 got a contract. I mean, that's pretty much. I'll say this, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.640 though this isn't the first year of that, you know, 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.600 the speculation, and he did come back. His contract is 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.880 not one that you have to get rid of. Act 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.360 favorable getting rid of him would be more about we've 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.079 let young guys are ready to play, and we want 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.320 to get him on. But that being said, contracts that 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.320 are favorable to keep are also favorable to trade typically. Yeah, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.760 so you you know, if if he's somebody that you 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:22.960 would want to try, and to be honest with that. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.280 The only reason I think it's it's even worth talking 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:29.360 about is because the way Orlando was sounding was well, yeah, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.040 I'd be okay if I weren't here, like regardless, at 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.280 least we had sounded to me. Regardless of whether he's 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.320 here or not, eighty percent of the guys in that 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.000 room next year are going to be twenty six or younger. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.920 I mean, so yeah, and the most veteran guy of 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.800 the group is maybe changing positions right well him or well, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.800 he don't forget Jeff, Yeah, but even I mean Jeff's 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.920 not exactly old either. I mean I've just finished his 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.840 fourth year, so nobody's got into a second contract in 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.840 that room. Jeff Goat year yeah, Okay, Joe years yeah, 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.200 and Goat years, he's like thirty, he's thirty eight years. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:05.959 He's had one goat here. He is the three time 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.880 leader in interceptions on this team three years in a row. Okay, Well, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.560 that's a lot of about Jamis is not on the 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:15.880 schedule and Rogers. It says a lot about Jeff Heath. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.640 I don't hear anything in the contrary. All right, let's 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.840 jump into a free agency I'm sorry, franchise tag Cowboys 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.400 or the NFL has just open up the franchise tagging period, 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.280 where teams may place to tag on a player of 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.959 their choosing. The Cowboys are expected to place the tag 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.240 on de Marcus Lawrence. My first question for you guys 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.920 is how much money is this going to cost? And 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.960 I'll combine that with another question, is that and this 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.440 is a point of clarification, I think fancy to understand, 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.000 does that money as soon as you tag the player 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.480 immediately hit the cap because it is a one year 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.600 guaranteed deal, Does that immediately hit the cap? And then 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.800 we'll talk about maybe how that affects the team. A 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.760 couple of fun things there, which I assume the NFL 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.600 has made this information in public to the teams. It's 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.679 not public to us, but I assume the teams know 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.400 because it seems ridiculous that you have to put a 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.160 tag on a guy not knowing what his franchise cost is. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:14.040 But as I don't know what the numbers are, they're 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.280 not publicly available. I mean you could go you can 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.280 do the math and get a basic figured the idea. Yeah, 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:19.959 it's I mean that you know the average salary the 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.800 top five guys at the position, it would cost the 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.880 Cowboys somewhere in the neighborhood of seventeen million dollars, like 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.760 seventeen and a half million dollars to tag him. Yeah. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.079 That hits the cap. Yeah, and it hits the cap immediately. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:33.959 It's part of I mean, when you you have to 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.280 be under the salary cap on March fourteenth, at the 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.360 start of the new league year, that's part of it. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.360 If you put the tag on DeMarcus, that's accounting for 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.920 seventeen million dollars of your caps. So it's that big 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.520 a number. Seventeen million. Do the Cowboys have to do 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.640 anything as far as player movement to get seventeen million 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.000 on their cap for this year without going over no 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.439 at they're at something like nineteen or twenty. The problem 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.800 is not getting under, which it has been in recent years. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.400 The problem is not getting under the problem is if 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.160 you tagged a Marcus and don't sign him, then the 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.600 tag money is eating into what you can spend on 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.720 other people a lot, which even that's not necessarily a problem. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.679 You can restructure a lot of contracts. I doubt they 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.360 will like you. Just look. You look around, and it 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.320 doesn't seem like a good idea to be playing with 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.280 people's money. I mean, we've talked at nauseam already about 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.720 maybe you want to get rid of Dez, so I 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.400 don't know why you would push his money forward. But 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.240 there are other guys you could consider. Tyrn Smith is 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.200 a guy, but he's had two straight years of back injuries. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.880 Do you want to mess with his money? Frederick is 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.320 the one guy that really makes a lot of sense. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.960 You assume he's going to be fine, So I would 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.800 imagine they'll redo his deal at some point, which I 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.800 think frees up something like seven million in space. Because 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.920 you do something like that with now, maybe you don't 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.400 want to because you don't know if his long term viability, 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.240 But somebody like Crawford who makes it a significant amount 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.680 of money. Because I'm thinking about contracts that are eating 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.560 up a significant amount of money, are there ways to 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.360 decrease that amount to hit your cap this year? Yeah? 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.400 The answer is almost always yeah. But I think Tyrone 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.960 is in a similar boat, where like and I haven't 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:12.600 looked at this. I should have looked at this before 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.280 we went on the show. I'm sorry, but if you 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.440 if you bump his money this year, then it makes 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.640 it harder to cut him next year, Whereas, like the 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.120 way it is right now, if you just absolutely want 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.560 to get out of his deal, you could do it 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.720 pretty easily next year. So it's all a matter of 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.960 us and how much do you want money right now 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.480 versus how much do you want your salary cap to 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.520 be healthy? In the longest, That speaks volumes to what 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.840 this team is because you can't find a lot of 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.000 guys that are locked up that you feel really great about. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.240 I mean, because Frederick is one of them, and that's 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.680 why he's a candidate. Zach Martin didn't have a big 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.600 contract yet Tyron Smith is a yes, you like what 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.560 he's doing, but injury wise kind of scares you. Tyrone Crawfords, 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.160 a guy's got a lot of money. But like they've said, 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.880 Dave's already talking about how next year you might cut 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.720 him because you just don't know. If he has another 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.680 year where you're just like, well it's pretty good, then 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.080 he's making you know, he's upside down. And that's also 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.680 the thing about having a young team, right, you got 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.840 a relatively young team. Your quarterback doesn't make a lot 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.800 of money, your star running back doesn't make a lot 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:08.960 of money. There are a lot of guys on this 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.320 team who are playing significant roles for you that don't 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.120 that haven't gotten that second contract yet. They will. But well, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.080 and I would also argue factor you have to think about, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.920 especially from Zeke standpoint. You know Zeke, Well, I say 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.920 that I don't know for sure ye Zeke's not making 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.280 a little bit of money, like that's true, he is. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.440 Comparing Zeke's contract to Dax is not very fair. I mean, 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.480 he's on the books for like twenty four million. Thing 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.200 about the about that contract though, too, And this is 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.040 just the point of note, it's not guaranteed. Right that 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.520 there's nothing guaranteed about it, So, uh, you know that 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.400 doesn't that certainly that certainly will allow you to maybe 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.640 restructure him if you wanted to. And I don't know 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.480 the rules that there are rules about the first contract 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.920 and you're restructuring a first contract or not. But um, 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.520 I want to say you can can't what you get 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.560 coming out of college, what you get. Teams don't do it. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.240 I mean, I'm yeah, I've not really heard of it, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.800 so that's yeah, I got to look into that. But 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.040 that's not a thing that teams do, for one, and 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.639 I assume it's CBA related. So it's just most of 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.840 this team's like big money contracts don't look great right now. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.000 I'm like, Tyron Smith signed like the most team friendly 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.240 deal in the history of team so did Shan Lee? Right, yeah, well, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.679 and which you don't want to touch Sean's money based 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.879 on you know everything you know about him. And I've 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.879 said over and over again, I think Tyron's gonna be 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.879 fine in the long run, but it sounds kind of 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.800 scary to be pushing his money forward when he has 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.640 been as banged up as he has the last two years. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.200 So you kind of have a shortage of options when 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.520 it comes to freeing up that salary cap space, which 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:41.640 and I think that's why you've heard so many people 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.159 talking about this. The big one is is Zach Martin 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.640 because he in it's not the franchise tag, but he's 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.119 basically set to play on a one year deal right 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.240 now too because of his fifth year option he's supposed 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:54.919 to play. He's on a one year deal that's going 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.119 to count something like nine and a half million towards 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:01.000 the salary cap, which is why go ahead, get that 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.000 Get get that extension out of the way, and it 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.240 can help even though it's a big figure, it can 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.080 help your cap in the long run because you would 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.920 imagine his year one charge would be less than what 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.920 his charges right now. So those are the two things 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.600 that I look at, um signing Zach Martin and maybe 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.120 finagling with Travis Frederick's money. You could all Um Whitten's 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.840 another guy, and if you just assume he's going to 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.120 play forever, you could probably do something with his money. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.960 Wouldn't you assume he's yeah, exactly, So he just signed 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.040 an extension last year or so, he's got four years 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.240 that you can push into the future or whatever. So 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.560 I mean there's a couple options. Like I think when 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.840 it's all said and done, even with putting the tag 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.040 on DeMarcus Lawrence, I think they'll probably have something like 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.840 six to eight million in cap room to play with. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.880 So to avoid all that is obviously getting a deal 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.919 done with him. And we're gonna hold you on that one. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.520 We're gonna take our first break when we come back. 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.240 I want to talk about that. Should Should the fans 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.000 expect that they're going to do a deal with DeMarcus 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.879 Lawrence that will ease some of that burden from seventy 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:01.840 million hit this year? Well do that when we come 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.800